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Serious Terrorist Probe on American Airlines

Mon, Mar 5, 2007 at 8:31:41 am PST

At Annie Jacobsen’s web site Aviation Nation, we discover an account of an apparent terrorist dry run on an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami—the same route and airline on which Richard Reid failed to detonate his shoe bombs: American Airlines Flight 62: A Terrorist Probe?

This report was posted in mid-February, and has received no media coverage whatsoever. Jacobsen confirmed that the incident did occur, with an American Airlines spokesperson.

This is not meant to scare, but it probably will. Consider yourself informed and warned that the threat is real. This crew reported that they were not prepared that something of this nature could be happening to them.

Flt 62, Paris to MIA [Miami], a few weeks ago. 2 maybe 4 mid-eastern types causing minor disturbance from the get-go. Nothing that the FAs [flight attendants] couldn’t deal with, but, in hindsight, they seemed to be pushing the envelope. Cross-cabin activity, hanging out in the forward galley, complaining about everything, etc. Mid-Atlantic, the FO [First Officer, or Co-Pilot] called to return to the cockpit after his crew-rest break. One of the perps [perpetrators] was in the forward galley, was instructed by a FA to go aft, but didn’t. As the cockpit door opened, another perp suddenly appeared from around the galley, dropped his shoulder into FO while the first one got in the way of the FO’s attempt to block the other...here I’m not certain...so....wait for the movie.

FO (one of our first FFDO’s [Federal Flight Deck Officers*]) was about to pull his flashlight to use as a weapon in a counter attack, but thought better of it not knowing how many more perps he might have to fight, called “lockdown” to the FB [secondary “B” First Officer], inside the cockpit, who slammed the door. As soon as the perps heard the word lockdown, they retreated to their seats.

I’m not doing justice to the story, but, if not an attempt on the cockpit, this was a serious probe.

Crew considered divert, but since the threat diminished and seemed to be contained, they pressed on towards MIA. Flight was met in MIA by FBI, FAMS [Federal Air Marshal Service] (none aboard, by the way), AA [American Airlines] Security suits, etc. During the de-brief, which lasted several hours, the FAMs told the pilots that they would have “dropped” both of the perps with the first shove near the cockpit door. Perps claimed to not understand English, were detained for 4 days and deported, back to Paris, when they are free to attend Sunday school, tell their buddies of their Adventure and plan their next move.

Enjoying the story so far? It’s good we can’t carry guns on Int’l [International] trips, eh?

Upsetting is that we all have to learn of this, by happenstance. Why didn’t you and your last crew know of this? We took a delay yesterday while this FB detailed the entire event to my crew. Believe me, there were no disbelievers that the terrorist threat is real in my crew by the time we boarded.

I’m more than upset that this is still a secret! The FB is a man I’ve flown with often, trust completely and attended FFDO (Federal Flight Deck Officer) training with a year ago January. I hope I’ve presented his story accurately, but am certain that the basic details are very close.

UPDATE at 3/5/07 10:27:58 am:

This story was very quickly buried by the LGF-haters at Digg.com, after briefly making it to their front page. Here’s a typical comment, showing the blind hatred that’s behind this organized anti-LGF campaign:

What the f*ck, how did a story from LGF get on the frontpage? What’s with all the “terrorists support digg” comments? The whole site is nothing but a fountain of hate for anything non-christian, non-religious, bible bashing, neo-conservatives. I could care less if the story was real, but did anyone even bother to check references? I don’t see anything concrete at all.

This looks far more like LGF orchestrating a digg story attack than anything else.

A classic case of projection; there is no “orchestrated attack,” just people who submit our posts, using the tools provided by Digg themselves. The orchestrated attack is coming from the Diggbats who scramble to bury everything from our site.

(And I’m using the term “Diggbats” not to refer to everyone at Digg.com—only to the fascists who are doing this.)

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1 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:34:50am

CAIR is offended that you're reporting this.

2 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:35:43am

But wouldn't removing such perps be...gasp...racial profiling?

The horror.

3 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:35:47am

The Islamofascists are probing & pushing and reporting back. That much is clear.


9-11 was such a success, they must find a way to repeat it.

4 RedWhiteAndJew  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:36:17am

But Ann Coulter used the f-word! Priorities, people!

5 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:36:20am

Holy smokes.

When are the airlines and airports going to get serious enough to keep all their employees informed on this? After everyone gives up flying?

6 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:37:41am

"There is no terrorist threat."

Osama Bin Moore

7 necklace of SHoes  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:37:43am

Should've dropped the f*ckers!

8 bolivar  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:37:52am

This kinda stuff is really scaring the bejesus out of me and I don't fly all that often. I look for m/e types everytime I do fly and am always vigilant but, that and $1.50 will get you a cup of java. We will never do enough to stop the threat and that is the real crime - knowing about it and pussing out.

9 Sponge  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:37:53am

as the left continues to bury it's collective head in the sand.........

10 brent  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:38:04am

But wait, I thought all the LGF posted was hate speech..? I'm trying like crazy* to figure out how this fits into that model.

Oh yeah, we hate the idea of another flight being hijacked. That works for me.


*literally crazy, as in extreme cognitive dissonance brought on by the acronym LGF.

11 vxbush  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:38:05am

I would have thought that airline protocol would be to inform everyone on their staff so they would be aware of the current activity of terrorists so they could spot it earlier on and stop a future test run at an earlier point.

12 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:38:44am

Hi Jammie!

Did you see the Pantsuit drawling in Selma?

13 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:39:05am
...Perps claimed to not understand English, were detained for 4 days and deported, back to Paris, when they are free to attend Sunday school, tell their buddies of their Adventure and plan their next move.

Ah, France. The perfect place for terrorists to incubate.
If Royal is elected, even more so.

14 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:39:25am

That crew is not getting enough sensitivity trainging.

15 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:40:05am

Good time for this reminder, folks: In the post-9/11 world, we are all deputized air marshals.

Pay attention to who's on your flight, and what they do. Your attenae should go up whenever people start congregating near the flight deck. Be ready to pile on, if necessary.

A pack, not a herd.

16 sndpaper  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:40:15am

...wellll............at least I can tighten up the stop limit on my little position in AMR.....

17 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:40:16am

This same web site has a regular column about dry runs and probes here.

18 shug  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:41:12am

the perps should have been hog tied and deplaned on the spot

A Dry run becomes rather wet that way

19 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:41:59am
Upsetting is that we all have to learn of this, by happenstance

Yes- it's very upsetting every time we learn the msm isn't doing their job because the story doesn't fit with their little meme that there is no terrorist threat.

Perps claimed to not understand English, were detained for 4 days and deported, back to Paris, when they are free to attend Sunday school, tell their buddies of their Adventure and plan their next move.

This is even more upsetting- that we would let these jihadis go back to paristan to disseminate their newly acquired knowledge of international flight procedures.

20 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:42:13am

shug

hog tied

That is extremely insensitive.

:)

21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:42:48am

This is pretty scary - a girl I know is flying to Germany tomorrow, and another is an international flight attendent.

22 Sponge  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:43:13am

The flight attendents and crew should've just invited them into the cockpit to enguage in dialogue. They would've then went back to their seats happy and satisfied.

23 valkyrie  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:43:47am
“Terrorist Use of “Dry Run” Tactic
May Be Tip-Off for Imminent Terrorist Attack.”

In case any of the federal agents reading were unfamiliar with the term “dry run,” DHS/FBI offered this definition:

“Unlike preoperational surveillance — which can occur months or even years before the attack — a dry run is similar to a dress rehearsal and usually indicates that an attack is imminent.”

All I need to know

24 seejanemom  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:44:03am

SIGN THE CPAC BLOGGER'S PETITION TO RENOUNCE ANN COULTER

I just got back form CPAC BLOGGER'S ROW and BOOOOY are my fingers tired!

And ANN makes my ass hurt.

25 kepiblanc  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:44:22am

When will the airlines stop transporting "ME types" ? - They can use their own flying rugs if they absolutely must leave their sh**-hole.

26 psaturn  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:44:55am

Of course they will try all they can to test our security system. Why would that be a surprise?

I think profiling still makes sense.

Look at Israel, people are profiled and they have the safest airport in the world. That is no small feat when you are surrounded by enemies that want you all to go to sea.

27 Jheka  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:45:10am

Remember James Woods' story?

It seems that there is always a dry run.

Also, let's not forget about the angry, angry Imams, who's antics and subsequent public outrage seemed designed to discourage airline officials and passengers from reacting to suspicious activities.

Not IF, people.

WHEN.

28 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:45:23am

If Anna Nichole Smith's body had been in the baggage area, we would've heard about this.

29 CowardKerry  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:45:24am

We can't have these stories told, they would back up Bush in his belief that islamo facists are a threat. We must bury these stories so we can continue to slam Bushitler for his made up war on terror./////

30 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:46:09am
[Federal Air Marshal Service] (none aboard, by the way)

This must stop! Every flight in America or to America should have an Air Marshal.

31 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:46:59am

MandyManners

If Anna Nichole Smith's body had been in the baggage area, we would've heard about this.

Or Brittany's hair.

32 surrounded by moonbats  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:48:26am

I suppose the crew didn't want to start a panic, but I wonder why the flight attendants didn't announce they needed a little help?

I think post 9/11 that many able bodied passengers would have been more than willing to restrain these 'jokesters' in their seats for the remainder of the flight.

33 shug  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:48:48am

Has CAIR demanded an apology from American Airlines yet?

34 salaami  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:49:06am

I'm sure it was just a bit of performance art. What a playful bunch those French are.

35 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:49:08am

Should have dropped them off at Gitmo.

Its a matter of time. We can never take our eyes away.

36 Sponge  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:49:58am

Has this story been buried yet?

37 ibu guru  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:50:41am

The only "sensitivity training" that's required here is how to be sensitive to & aware of envelope-pushing activities, defenses-probing activities, hijacking preparations & practice, and generally obnoxious and annoying behavior by hijackers-in-training, scouts & intell collectors for hijackers, and subversive operatives who want to force us to let down our guard. The sole purpose of such "sensitivity training" is to ensure every flight crew member knocks the stuffing out of the first person who tries to pull any shiite.

To accomplish such "sensitivity training" missions, every crew member needs to be aware of every incident, perpetrators, modus operandi, route, etc. just so they know what to watch for, put a stop to, and report to FAMS, FBI, etc.

38 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:04am

It's unfortunate that we actually have to let them take the plane NOT to be called racists.

39 shug  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:22am

The Big Man has a very affordable solution to inflight security

Bat day

* warning language

40 got milk?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:41am

something just like this happened a few years ago

41 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:48am

seejanemom,

Coulter’s vicious word choice tells the world she care little about the feelings of a large group that often feels marginalized and despised. Her word choice forces conservatives to waste time defending themselves against charges of homophobia rather than advancing conservative ideas.

You mean the same marginalized group that keeps ramming gay marriage, Hollywood, activist judges, mocking of the Catholic Church, and invoking victimhood all the while shoving every other deviant idea down my throat - though America has spoken loud and clear about what it thinks thru the voting booth? Thanks, but no thanks.

Seems to me Ann Coulter is one of the few that has the "stones" to defend conservative ideas and is willing to take the heat when she plays the mean game. Being that the reference was making fun of a Hollywood PC ploy some weeks back, give me a million Ann Coulters - and make them all just as sassy.

42 Broomer  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:53:10am

Passover and Easter coming up soon. That probably explains the timing of the dry runs.

43 Jack Reacher  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:53:23am

This report was posted in mid-February, and has received no media coverage whatsoever. #4 RedWhiteAndJew:
Beat me to it! Plus, Manbearpig won an Oscar, and we're all melting, melting, oh what a world.

44 bolivar  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:53:43am

Problem I see now is that the m/e look will be gone. [bigoted word]s will use "western-looking" types to do their dirty work so being on the lookout for only m/e types is not going to cut it.

The solution is varied and very complicated. If we knock off the Imams and Mullahs who promulgate this hate we are in trouble. If we search m/e types we are in trouble. Seems all we want to do is not get into trouble. f them all - don't care about trouble. I want to be safe in flight and anywhere else I go in this wonderful country.

By the way, I love Ann Coulter and if she asked me I would marry her. Her remark is off color and crude but, surely no more so than the libs she mocks. You people cranking on her need mellow out and get some air. Life is too short to have this plugging up your works.

45 Adrenalyn  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:54:27am

calm down, the Feds check planes (and ships too for that matter) before they leave Eurabia before they come here

the bad news.......they find shit all the time

some day one may slip thru

so don't fly out of the US

46 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:54:34am

OT: but not really..
Seems Indymedia has posted info on the upcoming Anti-IslamoFascist Rallies on March 31 and are planning counter protests:

UAC Racists Plan To Rally Against Arabs/Islam/Immigrants
by Ibrahim Saturday, Mar. 03, 2007 at 8:33 PM
mneeh@maktoob.com

United American Committee is planning racist rallies on March 31. It's time to once again confront these racists

The same racist group which hung an effigy of a Muslim in front of a Los Angeles mosque last September and the same group that held a display of the cartoons of the Islamic prophet (pbuh) is planning on holding another racist protest Saturday March 31st in Anaheim. This from their website, they have four rallies planned on that day against Islam. We've outnumbered them in the past and sent them running home, now it's time to gear up and confront these racists once again:

West Coast:
Southern California Rally:
In front of CAIR's Southern California Office
We will be hanging an effigy of bin Laden
Location: 2180 W. Crescent Ave. Anaheim, CA 92801
Time: 1:00 PM
Contact: losangeles@unitedamericancommittee.org

East Coast:
New York - NYC: GROUND ZERO
MAIN RALLY AGAINST ISLAMOFASCISM DAY RALLY - BE THERE!
Location: Ground Zero - World Trade Center
Time: 12 Noon - 2 PM
Contact: newyork@unitedamericancommittee.org

Florida - Orlando:
Location: The corner of Hwy 50(Colonial Drive) and Bumby.
Time: 1:00 PM
Contact: florida@unitedamericancommittee.org

Massachusetts - Boston:
Location: Boston Common
Tremont St. in front of the Constitution memorial and across from Lowes movie theater.
Time: 1:00 - 3:00 PM
Contact: boston@unitedamericancommittee.org

47 Orbit Rain  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:54:38am

...deported back to France where they can be tracked...

(yeah...you heard that right Islamofascists)

to our dear friends, thanks you

and to Mahmoud...we're coming for you bitch

48 deadbackpacker  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:54:44am

#32 surrounded by moonbats

I agree and I personally would sit on one of this pricks myself if necessary. But I wonder what kind of trouble you could get into if you "voluntered" to help the flight crew. You know CAIR would be all over that, thinking they could bully the flying public into staying in their seats with the threat of lawsuits or legal action.

I wonder if any lizard can inform us what action the FBI or other law enforcement would respond to volunteers coming to the aid of the flight crew?

49 shug  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:56:17am

were they traveling on youth fares?

50 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:56:33am
This crew reported that they were not prepared that something of this nature could be happening to them.

You would think American Airlines after 9/11 would make all their crews aware and prepare them, regardless of any guidelines set out by the Feds. Do they want to lose more personnel and equipment?! This makes me question ever using American Airlines for my travel needs.

51 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:56:35am

This kind of thing, in addition to TSA destroying a suitcase that had TSA-approved locks, is why I detest flying commercial these days. When I take the Ranger, my tools can travel with me ('cept on base). Only a matter of time before one of these probes becomes another attack.


Shameless blog link:
The War Within and the War Without [Link: herbertsobel.blogspot.com...]

52 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:58:34am

This or this can be in your carry-on luggage, perfectly legal, just in case you need to pitch in if and when the jihadists try again. Keep it close at hand once on board, not stuffed in a bag in the overhead bin.

53 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:58:43am

Pali "cease fire" update:

Fatah man wounded in fighting with Hamas over Gaza training ground

A Fatah member was injured Monday afternoon, as members of a Hamas militia engaged in a daytime gun battle with Fatah-allied security officers in Gaza City on Monday after an argument over who had control of a nearby training compound, security officials said.

It was the worst outbreak of internal violence since rival Palestinian factions agreed to form a unity government last month, officials said.

The Fatah security forces demanded the Hamas militiamen leave the area, but they refused, saying it fell under the jurisdiction of the Hamas-controlled Interior Ministry, security officials said.

I had no idea that burning rings of fire and cardboard IDF Tanks were such a highly contested commodity in Gaza.

54 loflyer  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:59:11am

If this was all a misunderstanding then why isn't the perps screaming their heads off about racial profiling by the evil racist and Islamophobic flight crew? And we haven't heard a word from CAIR either. Ominous is the word to describe these incidents.

55 RAMI1  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:59:22am

And we still keep importing more of these vermin! Our 'leaders" must have some twisted agenda because they all (well, a large percentage of them) can't be that stupid!

56 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:59:54am

48 deadbackpacker

I'd be willing to bite their ankles. (I'm rather petite.)

57 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:00:15am

#46 NoSubmission

If they're saying that OBL is the same thing as a generic muslim, they're in effect saying that all muslims are terrorists, aren't they?

58 Max DarkSide  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:00:24am

heh... he said the "probe" word...
- Ann Coulter

59 Lady Mondegreen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:00:41am

#32 Surrounded

I suppose the crew didn't want to start a panic, but I wonder why the flight attendants didn't announce they needed a little help?

I know my hubby is ready to assist with the vermin removal on any flight we're on. And he's a vicious guy when defending me. One flight over to the UK was creepy with 3 Turks who were always in and out the bathroom.

60 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:00:47am

#48 DeadBackPacker

IF the Crew asks you for help, you have no possible liability (it's a law that covers ALL emergency situations).
Unless of course they ask you to bind a person and instead you kill that person.

61 Muadib  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:01:03am

#15 Occasional Reader

Excellent advice.

62 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:03am
63 Cartman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:19am

Something whacky starts taking place during the next flight I'm on, I'll take action and worry about being labeled a racist later.

64 Sponge  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:34am
UAC Racists Plan To Rally Against Arabs/Islam/Immigrants


Since when is islham or immigrants a RACE? One is racist when they are demeaning to a particular RACE of people......NOT a religion or social status.

When will people tire of the BLATANT misuse of the word?

65 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:42am

something just like this happened a few years ago

66 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:44am
Massachusetts - Boston:
Location: Boston Common
Tremont St. in front of the Constitution memorial and across from Lowes movie theater.
Time: 1:00 - 3:00 PM
Contact: boston@unitedamericancommittee.org

Well, lookie here.....

67 beej  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:46am

goodbye_natalie #41

Well said. I'm with you on this.

68 JustMyView  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:03:10am

OT: Hearings re the quality of care in the military health care system are on CSPAN now. They've been going on for a while, apparently. I just happened to tune in.

69 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:03:27am

This conflict with the crazy islamics is so far from over.

And I think that there will eventually be a huge, huge smackdown.

70 deadbackpacker  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:03:32am

#56 MandyManners

Thats good Mandy, you get 'em low and I'll hit high and we'll break them in the middle. The FBI can deal with the remains when we land!

71 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:03:48am

Maybe the message will get through when airlines start training their cabin crews in hand-to-hand combat.

(Although, given the whole "air rage" phenomenon... Perhaps they do that already?)

72 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:04:20am

But remember, Sky Marshalls are BAD!

73 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:04:26am

A potential probe? Or a potential lawsuit?

74 wargammer2005  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:05:03am

my concern is that this is a distraction by our enemies so we will focus on jets and the real target is somewhere else

i can't beleive passengers will ever let a jet be highjacked again.

75 thecabal  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:05:06am

Who gives a shit whether Ann Coulter used a questionable insult when we have terrorists obviously testing our defenses? If the people who have their panties in a twist about one loudmouth's choice of words reserved one-tenth of their outrage for a real problem, we would be in a lot better shape.

76 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:05:23am

57 Earth2moonbat

#46 NoSubmission
If they're saying that OBL is the same thing as a generic muslim, they're in effect saying that all muslims are terrorists, aren't they?


That is exactly what they are saying. Naturally they are not denouncing him either.

77 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:05:44am

#51 American Soldier

Only a matter of time before one of these probes becomes another attack.

Let me propose an alternate theory. All terrorism is psyops. If they succeed in scaring us, they succeed. They may never actually pull off another hijacking, but they still cause us to be on pins and needles, and half the population will be intimidated into giving them whatever they want based on that alone.

So this may be a probe, but it also could be a psyop. They are succeeding at cowing half the population by doing nothing more than they have been doing.

78 SaneInMN  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:06:19am

OT...

Remember last week when many here at LGF, including myself, were giving kudos to Obama for delivering a very pro-Israel message to AIPAC? Well, it turns out that like everything else about Obama, this too was a political ruse.

From Atlas Shrugs [Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]
<
blockquote>But now comes a very interesting blog entry by the pro-Palestinian blogger Ali Abunimah at The Electronic Intifadah, who alleges that Obama has moved to stridently pro-Israel position as his national aspirations developed. "The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood," Abunimah writes. "He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing. "As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough pri'mary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.' He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, 'Keep up the good work!"

79 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:06:22am

After three days of rioting, squat demolished.

Heh.

80 Smitty  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:06:32am

That 9/11 was a huge success for the terrorists is an understatement. Thanks in large part to crappy rules, our own complacency and an unwillingness to actually believe what OBL and other terrorist leaders were saying with their open threats of violence and destruction. So now new laws are in place and most travellers are much more "aware" of their surroundings.

What I don't get is why the bad guys would try flying airplanes into buildings again? It seems to me, and I'm no Dr. Evil, that there are many other ways to achieve their desired terror goals. Chemicals, dirty bombs, subways... Personally, I won't be planning a cruise anytime soon.

81 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:06:52am

US Funding terror.

Again.

USAID funding of Palestinian university with terror branches in violation of US Law

Millions of dollars in U.S. foreign aid have been given in the past several years to two Palestinian universities—one of them controlled by Hamas—that have participated in the advocacy, support or glorification of terrorism. The funding—principally in scholarships to individual students—is being eyed by several members of Congress and their aides, who say they may violate U.S. law.

The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) has provided more than $140,000 in assistance to the Hamas-controlled Islamic University in Gaza—including scholarships to 49 of its students—since Congress changed the law in 2004 to restrict aid to entities or individuals “involved in or advocating terrorist activity.”

82 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:05am

70 deadbackpacker

Will I need shots after biting them?

83 got milk?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:07am

I really don't believe this story. Not one person on board took pictures with a cell phone? Not one passager called their local news to tell them what happened?

When Mulsim "band" members acted weird on a plane, that story made the news. It was also a thread here.

84 jemima  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:14am

Where do I sign the petition to support Ann Coulter?

85 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:31am

#52 Occasional Reader

the SECOND of your links takes to a flashlight that, because of its shape and because of how it is advertised, could cause a legal problem (there is a way to prove the INTENTION to harm).
It is not allowed for some Private Security Officers.

The first is perfectly OK. And with it you can do pretty much the same.

86 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:46am

Ben Hur

Maybe we should ask El Al about how bad sky marshalls are.

87 Van Impe  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:07:52am

You know you're a lizard when only one thread on a Monday morning is not enough.

88 Rednek  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:08:34am

huh..huhhh.huh..He said "probe"..huh..hhuh...She said "faggot"..huhh..huhh..

/american complacency

89 Sponge  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:08:37am
Let me propose an alternate theory. All terrorism is psyops. If they succeed in scaring us, they succeed. They may never actually pull off another hijacking, but they still cause us to be on pins and needles, and half the population demoncrats will be intimidated into giving them whatever they want based on that alone.

Just wanted to fix that for ya.......sorry.

90 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:08:43am

Whassup Y'all?

/hillary

91 kerr avon  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:08:45am

# 27 Jheka

You are right, put the Imam decoy and this dry run together and we have an imminent threat.

But it doesn't matter since no one cares. And when the attack occurs it will be Bush's fault (and Halliburton's fault too, can't forget to accuse Halliburton)

92 Pink Freud  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:09am

24 seejanemom

You're kidding, right ....?

93 stephen2  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:15am

From the link supplied by Charles

Armed Federal Flight Deck Officers are not allowed to carry their guns while flying international routes.

more nonsense from the ROE police?

94 RedWhiteAndJew  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:20am

goodbye_natalie #41

Well said.

95 easy  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:31am

#30 Sharmuta

Every flight in America or to America should have an Air Marshal.


Alas, there are just too many.

96 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:43am

66 loppyd

Thinking of going, loppy?
I'm definitely covering the Ground Zero event.

97 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:48am

#78 SaneInMN

Remember last week when many here at LGF, including myself, were giving kudos to Obama for delivering a very pro-Israel message to AIPAC? Well, it turns out that like everything else about Obama, this too was a political ruse.

But he's so clean.......

98 deadbackpacker  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:09am

#82 MandyManners

I would drive you to the hospital myself. It would be vital to be innoculated against the Islamofacist virus.

99 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:10am

77 Earth2moonbat

So this may be a probe, but it also could be a psyop. They are succeeding at cowing half the population by doing nothing more than they have been doing.

Then the psyop failed since the msm ignored this story. I'd give credit to the msm for defeating a psyop attempt, but I don't think they're that intelligent. It's more likely they ignored this story because it confirms there is a threat.

100 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:15am

#52 Occasional Reader 3/5/2007 08:58AM PST
I had my trusty Mini Mag in my pocket in Nov., not that I expected to many problems on an El Al flight.

"You can kill a man with any size Maglite."
Wish I'd been the one to say that.

101 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:38am

PIFW
too

102 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:47am

#79 Ringo the Gringo

They should have brought it down on the rioters' heads.

103 Dustoff-507  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:11:32am

#56 Mandy

(I'm rather petite.)


OOOOOO-man I'm in love. (-:

104 right wing zephyr  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:11:36am

Get your own planes, Islamists!

Kick them off. Profile. Anything less is less than serious about a serious problem.

105 seejanemom  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:11:48am

#41

All you say is TRUE.

The problem is, WE DON'T NEED ANN COULTER TO BE THE SILKY PONY'S FUNDRAISING POSTER GIRL.

See how that works?

WE CONSERVATIVES CANNOT hold the moral high ground if all we can do is sling arrows like THAT hateful word.

The Log Cabin Conservatives deserve better.

106 HeatherRadish  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:12:17am

#11 vxbush

I would have thought that airline protocol would be to inform everyone on their staff so they would be aware of the current activity of terrorists so they could spot it earlier on and stop a future test run at an earlier point.

Ha! The resulting lawsuit would push them that much closer to bankruptcy.

107 maddogg  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:13:48am
During the de-brief, which lasted several hours, the FAMs told the pilots that they would have “dropped” both of the perps with the first shove near the cockpit door.

Oops, sorry, not buying that. BSometer near red zone.

108 HeatherRadish  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:13:57am

#105 seejanemom

Silky Pony has no chance; Hillary will pull a Vince Foster on him.

Now, back to PEOPLE TRYING TO KILL US....

109 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:14:02am

Looks like "Open Season" will come early this year....

110 extrabob  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:14:41am

#15 occasional reader
"we are all deputized air marshals"

I always wear a necktie when flying, just in case I have to take somebody out. Remember this guy?

[Link: www.sonicrusk.com...]

111 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:17:33am

#77 Earth2moonbat 3/5/2007 09:05AM PST

#51 American Soldier

Only a matter of time before one of these probes becomes another attack.

Let me propose an alternate theory. All terrorism is psyops. If they succeed in scaring us, they succeed. They may never actually pull off another hijacking, but they still cause us to be on pins and needles, and half the population will be intimidated into giving them whatever they want based on that alone.

So this may be a probe, but it also could be a psyop. They are succeeding at cowing half the population by doing nothing more than they have been doing.

Well, there is that. As Shaaarrrmmuuuutttaaa points out, though, the scope of the op's effect (and I think we can safely assume that it was an op of some sort) was limited until today. And most of the people now privy to the news are just getting more determined.

112 Maximu§  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:18:12am

I fly alot and Im not scared one bit. I profile Muslims and keep an eye on them. If it comes to a fight, bring it on.

I figure about 1/3 of passengers would fight for their lives and thats enough to bring down any gang of Muslim Punks.

113 HeatherRadish  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:18:29am

#78 SaneInMN

Remember last week when many here at LGF, including myself, were giving kudos to Obama for delivering a very pro-Israel message to AIPAC? Well, it turns out that like everything else about Obama, this too was a political ruse.

I got ripped a new one for using the word "taqqiya" as a metaphor, but it doesn't look that far off.

114 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:19:21am

#100 American Soldier:

"You can kill a man with any size Maglite."
Wish I'd been the one to say that.

Who did say it?

#85 P-L:

the SECOND of your links takes to a flashlight that, because of its shape and because of how it is advertised, could cause a legal problem

I have carried both that one, and its larger cousin, through airport security in the US and abroad many times, without a problem. As to the "intent to harm" legal problems, my attitude is: I'll sort that out after the hijacking attempt is over. Anyway, the mini-Mag is almost as good as a weapon (although nowhere near as good as a flashlight), and one advantage to it is that if some over-zealous airport security guy insists on confiscating it, you're only out twelve bucks or so.

115 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:19:25am

Probably OT, in Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant today:
EU bans flights Pakistan International Airlines
The story mentions "security" reasons, but why exactly remains unclear. Air West (Sudan) was banned as well.

116 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:19:55am

SaneInMN (#78),

Remember last week when many here at LGF, including myself, were giving kudos to Obama for delivering a very pro-Israel message to AIPAC? Well, it turns out that like everything else about Obama, this too was a political ruse.

He doesn't fool me one bit. He's a slick talker and will say anything to convince you he's your best friend.

What does he stand for? What are his goals?

He's got a "plan" for a better future, but that's where it ends.

117 Bob's Kid  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:20:47am
I wonder if any lizard can inform us what action the FBI or other law enforcement would respond to volunteers coming to the aid of the flight crew?

I'd be concerned that the supposed "helpers" were actually accomplices...

I just don't have a whole lot of trust in me these days--for some reason.

118 extrabob  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:20:52am

#38 ben hur
"It's unfortunate that we actually have to let them take the plane NOT to be called racists."

...and the really crazy thing is that Middle Easterners are Caucasians. It is not racism to profile a potential jihadi. Damn moonbat media.

119 serfer62  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:21:50am

The President is right. America is not taking 9/11 seriously.

On my flight to deployment in the ME in 8/03 the stewys asked us to take isle seats...just in case.

120 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:22:09am

#105 seejanemom

The Log Cabin Conservatives

That's Log Cabin Republicans, but I agree with your point. I think Coulter wasn't trying to take a swipe at gays, as much as a swipe at the general heavy atmosphere of censorship that exists. But she should have known that this would be the result. If you're going to play in that sandbox, you need to understand the rules.

121 Muadib  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:22:14am

#41 goodbye_natalie

I agree. We shouldn't pull her off the front line because of a bad joke. She's kind of like Gen. Patton. Let's keep her in the fight.

122 mama winger  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:23:44am

drive-by post ......


Ann Coulter's a big girl. She can take care of herself. Let me know when to sign the Bill Maher petition, and I'm there.

out again

123 Jheka  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:24:35am

#24 seejanemom:

My blog has been rather inactive of late (though I'm starting to remedy that) but I will post that letter on it. Good to see that some people will still champion civility, even in the course of heated political discourse.

124 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:24:39am

I've wondered sometimes, if the former IDF counter-terrorist officer on American Airlines Flight 11, reported to be the first person killed during the September 11th attacks, sensed something about the hijackers sitting near him.


I also wonder, if he was the first killed because he was observant, and thus recognizable, or because he tried to stop the hijacking.

125 loppyd  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:25:55am

No Submission

Thinking of going, loppy?
I'm definitely covering the Ground Zero event.

I'd really like to go, but I believe that is the weekend my mom and aunt need my help cleaning out my Nana's house.

If not, I'll be there. With a camera.

126 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:26:32am

American Soldier (#51),

Thanks for the link. That's some good writin'.

127 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:31:52am

#113 HeatherRadish, #116 Geepers, Obama is an incredibly slick politician and if conservatives succeed in pushing "a real conservative" as Republican candidate, this creep will be President or at least VP.

128 gringo  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:32:18am

#41
What she said.
Go Ann!

129 Dustoff-507  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:32:11am

You can be sure Coulter knew what she was doing.

Funny how the Dem's use this type of talk all the time and the news say's ZIP.
But she say's something and look out!

I'm still in Coulter court.

130 funky chicken  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:32:23am

104 right wing Yep. Let them fly Air West (Sudan) which, btw I'd never heard of until today, or Pakistan Air. If they don't like the planes available on those two, er, fine airlines, let them fly Emirates Air.

Hey, Emirates Air even has their own soccer team in England, with a swanky new stadium too!

[Link: www.arsenal.com...]

Now why would a bunch of muslims have been attracted to purchase a team called Arsenal?

/sorry, maybe a little too psychotheraputic on that last part.

131 mac  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:26:50am

Here's a handy little item the airline will probably give you with your box lunch. It can buy you some valuable time. You can stick a couple in your pocket before boarding if there's a fast food place in the terminal.

[Link: www.nextag.com...]

132 twh  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:29:14am
Where do I sign the petition to support Ann Coulter?


Me too.

133 ErisLDysnomia  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:30:48am

#15 Occasional Reader 3/5/2007 08:40AM PST

Good time for this reminder, folks: In the post-9/11 world, we are all deputized air marshals.

Pay attention to who's on your flight, and what they do. Your attenae should go up whenever people start congregating near the flight deck. Be ready to pile on, if necessary.

And be ready to maim and disable. Poking the perp's eyeballs out, stepping on the perp's neck, kicking the perp's head, are all effective methods of dealing with hijackers-to-be.

Let no terrorist leave a plane without permanent physical incapacitation.

134 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:35:24am

The diggbats are tinkled. Someone had the chutzpah to point out the obvious; that the bury brigade are terorist supporters. Hoooooeeee! They're frothing. Truth not only hurts, it stings.

135 Bad Penny  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:37:27am

Maybe they should be retrofitting planes with airlocks.

136 shug  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:38:00am

I wish ann would just shut the hell up. Her schtick isn't even funny any more. She reminds me of an internet troll, right up there with Bill Maher : just saying things to get a reaction, not because her words matter.

give it a rest ann. Let the women with something to say carry the torch ( Malkin, Ingraham, Schlussel, etc )

137 Live4Truth  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:38:33am

Earth to Diggbats: The story has nothing to do with LGF. It's an e-mail posted at TheAviationNation.com .

138 mac  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:39:00am

Here's another handy item to carry. Though,you probably can't buy it at the airport.

[Link: kwikcrafts.com...]

139 OceansideCon  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:39:39am

I have noticed the cockpit door being opened more and more frequently.
The airlines are definately getting lax. I fly alot and AA is the worst offender.

140 mrdriven  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:43:21am

the left will not be happy until there is another attack so they can say "See our government does nothing to protect us..." while they are the ones hamstringing all of our security efforts....absolutely pathetic and disgusted

////going to throw up now...

141 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:46:23am
Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: “I meant the whole civil rights movement.”

The man will say any lie to gain popularity before the group he's speaking to.

142 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:46:47am

My LGF access crumped as I posted an hour ago. Running like molasses now.

Occasional Reader-
Don't know, can't find the site. IIRC, was in a discussion on gear, weapons, and traveling light.

Geepers-
Thanks.

143 RobertV  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:47:23am

This link to snopes.com was posted in the Digg comments showing that the author of the article Annie Jacobsen has made claims of "dry runs" and according to air marshals, she overreacted. [Link: www.snopes.com...]

144 forrest  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:49:10am
The whole site is nothing but a fountain of hate for anything non-christian, non-religious, bible bashing, neo-conservatives. I could care less if the story was real

It's funny when morons botch figures of speech and end up saying the opposite of what they meant.

145 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:49:43am

Some of these diggbats are unbelievable. They still believe that the "Syrian musicians" were what they claimed to be, and that disproves this.

Must have taken a lot of acid to get a brain to that point.

146 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:56:27am

#143 RobertV 3/5/2007 10:47AM PST
In the article posted above, Jacobsen is relaying an account sent by an aircrew member.
/Maybe Beamer & Co. were overreacting on Flt. 93......


mac-
how exactly were you planning to buy time with table salt or sand? If you want to blind someone, just remove their eyes. Or am I missing some exciting new chemical device?

147 Egfrow  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:00:15am

This Digg conflict is getting out of hand. The LGF server was down for about an hour today. This is rather unfair to those who come here first for news instead of to Digg. Digg is a Socialist system of dominance by mob control and will never be accepting of messages from the real world.

Stay focused on the MSM not these little self delusional sites that are too immature to deal with information outside of thier little bubbles. Digg is just a big wasted of engery and a disctraction.

148 Sandy P  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:06:43am

They didn't understand English, but they understood "lockdown."

149 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:08:26am

#105 seejanemom,

The problem is, WE DON'T NEED ANN COULTER TO BE THE SILKY PONY'S FUNDRAISING POSTER GIRL.

See how that works?

No, I don't see how that works because those same folks are the same ones ramming their deviant ideas down my throat. Better for them to waste their money on Mr. Breck than give it to Hillary's machine.

WE CONSERVATIVES CANNOT hold the moral high ground if all we can do is sling arrows like THAT hateful word.

I am reminded of one General George S. Patton. I'll bet the same people slamming Coulter for her faux faggot comment were of the same cowardly cloth as those that were screaming to get rid of Patton for using foul language. Ann's an asset that is willing to appear on the battlefield unlike our CONSERVATIVE candidates who grovel to the enemy.

The Log Cabin Conservatives deserve better.

The Log Cabin Republicans, those of common sense, know fully well Coulter wasn't mocking them - she was mocking the Hollywood jetset who rams their politically correct shiite down our throats with their politically correct indoctrination and browbeating. You know, the same ones that mock Jesus, idolize CAIR, and have made the "N" and "F" words the unforgivable sin? I give the Log Cabin Conservatives more credit for being smart enough to separate real bigotry than you do.

150 Charles  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:10:58am

Egfrow: the traffic from Digg.com is not the only thing causing our server to crash. The same kind of outages have happened when other major sites link to LGF, such as Drudge or Fark.com.

The fact is, our traffic has been steadily growing, until now we're at the point where I've had to add a second server.

Work is proceeding on revamping the site's infrastructure to deal with the increased traffic; it's not a simple process, and it's going to take a bit of time, but eventually we'll be able to withstand anything the net can throw at us.

In the meantime, I'm sorry about the inconvenience. Hang in there. It will get better.

151 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:18:38am

#149 goodbye_natalie

I am reminded of one General George S. Patton. I'll bet the same people slamming Coulter for her faux faggot comment were of the same cowardly cloth as those that were screaming to get rid of Patton for using foul language.

And I'll bet that the very people who complain the loudest use the F-bomb every other word, along with a rich dressing of progressive misogynistic vocabulary.

152 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:19:39am

#113 HeatherRadish, #116 Geepers, Obama is an incredibly slick politician and if conservatives succeed in pushing "a real conservative" as Republican candidate, this creep will be President or at least VP in 2008.

153 salt1907  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:23:32am

Snopes.com still lists Annie Jacobsen's original story from three years ago a "hoax." That is why I don't rely on Snopes anymore.

154 TalkinKamel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:13:50am

Coming late to this thread, but. . .

Ever since 9/11, all airplane crews and staff should be prepared for this kind of thing.

And does it sound familiar? It sounds an awful lot like the affair of the "Flying Imams", doesn't it? The sitting fore and aft, creating a disturbance, etc.

I think the perps should have been jailed, and held for further questioning.

155 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:18:05am

Here are some non-Christain things that I love not hate:

Jews, Buddhists, Shintos, B'hais, Lemurians, Dogs and Cats,

Airplanes

Ferraris

Etc.

Please Take Note Diggbatts.

156 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:20:54am

#141 Geepers:

When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: “I meant the whole civil rights movement.”

And of course not even that weak-ass excuse can explain how Messiah Obama also kinda sorta forgot when his own father arrived in the US. (Because it had to be thanks to the miraculous work of "a Kennedy", doncha see.)

157 got milk?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:22:19am

One problem Flt 62, Paris to MIA [Miami} - there is no such flight.
Flight 63 is -> Paris to MIA
Flight 62 is -> MIA to Paris.
Check AA website for yourself.

158 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:03:47am

It ain't pretty over at digg. Frothy spittle and moonbat guano everywhere.

159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:04:17am

#131 mac

I'm dying to know how salt packets can be used as a weapon!

160 ladycatnip  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:05:06am

#51 American Soldier,

Thanks for the link to your blog, and a heart-felt thank you for your service to our great country.

161 Windhorse  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:10:20am

I don feel no ways tired...

Are large Mag Lites (ie 12-inch long) legal in carry on bags?

162 Pickle  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:13:14am

Their Digg abuse works because no one seems interested in digging down their BS stories. If half the people who typically digg an article here took a cursory glance across the political news and political opinion pages and started digging down any leftwing tripe that happened to make it to the front of these pages, we'd soon see a call for a truce as all of a sudden their crap would start disappearing...

163 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:15:15am

#148 SandyP

They didn't understand English, but they understood "lockdown."

Yes, I arched an eyebrow when reading that, as well.

164 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:18:20am

#159 Beer Drinking Victory Monkey

I'm dying to know how salt packets can be used as a weapon!

Burns the crap out of your eyes.

165 Egfrow  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:22:57am

Thanks Charles,

You da man!

166 Maximu§  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:37:51am

#159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

#131 mac

I'm dying to know how salt packets can be used as a weapon!

I wondered about that myself....Its easier for me to punch a Man in the eye than try and toss salt at him.

167 CommonSense  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:00:25pm
I could care less if the story was real, but did anyone even bother to check references? I don’t see anything concrete at all.

The poster wouldn't see concrete if he was in a bricklayer union.

168 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:12:06pm
169 sandyk  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:12:42pm

You can bet the "Diggbats" will be the first to scream if there is another attack. Let the idiots bury their heads in the sand. I am fed up with the lot of them.

170 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:14:29pm

Well, Well, Well -

Truly DO wonder why this incident didn't get into the news media?
As for Ann Coulter - generally I enjoy her stuff - face it Ann, you had what is generally referred to as a "brain-fart"
on this one. Own up to it, make a joke of the situation and move on, its my advice and what I do in such circumstances.

-S-

171 greenfoot  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:43:06pm

If this is true isn't there a concern that bringing this to the attention of the media could hinder an FBI (or other) investigation?

172 The flying Kiwi  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 12:46:05pm

This could be the last post.

Re Anne C, yeah she makes my ass hurt alot too, but I'll bet its for a whole different reason than Seejanemom's

173 hannitized  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 2:21:42pm
Burns the crap out of your eyes.

Uh..aren't tears already salty?

174 FQ Kafir  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 2:49:38pm

Can anyone help me find out the exact date of this probe? I keep statistics on attacks, probes and failed attacks. Thanks in advancew for any help you can give. Long live the lizards!

175 tantraman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 3:01:42pm

Does Annie Jacobsen have any credibility? She seems to have a history of false alarms.

176 ErisLDysnomia  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 3:05:26pm

Digg Moonbat wrote:

I could care less if the story was real

Welel, fuc*tard, if you don't care if you, your wife and kids get their throats slit on some flight, or die from the unpleasant depressurization and lack of oxygen and cold at 35,000 feet from a bomb going off, that's your fuc*ing business.

But I DO CARE and I consider you as much an enemy as the terrorist who plans and does such things. The terrorist is smart and evil; you, fuc*tard, are worse: stupid and evil.

Do us all a favor and shut the hell up with your moronic statements.

177 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 3:06:42pm

TO: Charles Johnson, et al.
RE: Time....

....to cut the cord with Digg. Their Rules of Engagement are not designed for the purpose of good discourse and/or the dissemination of information.

I'll not be going there again. I counsel you to disconnect from them as well. Furthermore, this decision should be disseminated amongst all other blogs.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Power does not corrupt man; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power. -- George Bernard Shaw]

178 tantraman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 3:09:08pm
Dr Shalit: Truly DO wonder why this incident didn't get into the news media?

Ummm, probably 'cause anonymous emails aren't really seen as newsworthy?

179 rickl  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 3:29:30pm

#176 ErisLDysnomia

I like your nick! What does the L stand for?

180 got milk?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 4:01:12pm

147 FQ Kafir
I tried to find out. I ran into a major problem. Flight 62 does not fly TO MIA. It had to be Flight 63.(if it happened)
The other times problems happened on planes, press was all over it. Do you really think all the passangers would stay quite?
Lady goes nuts, plane diverted to Boston for example.

181 Big_Iron  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 4:05:08pm

: BUNDLE: as a : a bundle of sticks This is what my Funk'in -Wagnalls says is the meaning of Faggot. KoolAid drinkers, could AC just be calling the "Breck Girl' a bunch of sticks?

182 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 4:53:27pm

TO: All
RE: Digg

I can think of no good reason to ever return to Digg or click on a Digg It button again.

It is a waste of (1) time, (2) bandwidth and (3) energy.

I've better things to do with my life.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[When you wrestle with pigs, you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.]

183 FQ Kafir  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:13:19pm

#180 got milk?

Thank you for trying to help out... hopefully the probe date gets public release in the near future.

184 mattm  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:08:54pm

Remind me again why pilots aren't armed? If everything was true than these guys deserve to be spending a lot of time in the ICU before a very long prison term.

185 squeak51  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:09:11pm

#26 -- you spoke too soon.
I can't get the link to work (cuz I'n a idgeot)
"inviting-disaster-at-israels-airports"

Reported at Zionist.com on Feb 23, 07

excerpt:
"...Olmert this week ordered the Transportation Ministry to ease security inspections of Arabs traveling through Israel’s airports."...

URL:
[Link: www.zionist.com...]

stomach churning.

186 mac  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:27:54pm

146 American Soldier
159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
166 Maximu§
Sorry I missed your posts, had work to do. Anyway, The Pulchritudinous Patriot handled it up there at # 164. Your other suggestions for handling the matter with up close persuasion methods are fine by me. Thanks Pulchritudinous, great moniker you got there.

187 mac  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:33:43pm

173 hannitized
Burns the crap out of your eyes.
Uh..aren't tears already salty?

I tried to get you an answer to that, but just couldn't manage to lick my eyeballs.

188 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:38:12am

This article is back on the Front Page, listed as #2 article on top under Technology/Security.

So, it looks like justice won out against the DIGG psychos.

189 kazaz  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:29:12am

I have a friend who is a captain at AA. The first he'd heard of this story was when someone else forwarded the same link to him.

He's heard nothing official from the airline, but you'd think the flight crews would be talking unofficially. I find it hard to believe that a story like this wouldn't spread like wildfire throughout the airline.

JMO

190 Chuck Pelto  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:32am

TO: kazaz
RE: On the Other Hand....

"I find it hard to believe that a story like this wouldn't spread like wildfire throughout the airline." -- kazaz

....one would think that American Airlines would disavow the story, once they caught wind of it, if it were NOT correct. After all, it seems like it would be bad for business.

Which seems the more likely scenario?

The story is true and pilots haven't talked about it over beers, explaining why your friend heard about it over the internet first?

The story is false and AA and the rest of the airline industry want to take a hit in their bank accounts?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

191 Greg  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:41:04am

Another major attack with multi-thousand of deaths and that will be the end of the world wide airline industry. Its and many corporations finances will be done.

Better get used to driving, walking, buses, bikes or riding the rails.

192 kazaz  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:42:29am

RE: #190

Occam's razor. My vote for simplest theory (assuming the incident didn't happen) is that the story has such a limited audience in the blogosphere that no one at AMR knows there's something that needs disavowing.

The problem with the alternatives is that if the incident did happen, a lot people had to be either incompetent or complicit in a coverup.

193 the friendly grizzly  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 11:28:58am

number 75: maybe when the GOP stops putting so much emphasis on homosexuality and starts paying attention to the real issues, we might see something done. But just even mention homosexuality and the GOP and its followers drop everything so they can moan and whine about it.

It is a non-issue compared to what else is going on. Maybe when I see some PERMANENT tax cuts and some agencies closed down (which the great hero Ronaldus Amnestyus promised and never delivrered) some of the rest of us will take the party seriously. Meanwhile, they are exactly like the Democrats: push some hot buttons and the masses will follow.

194 Chuck Pelto  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:01:09pm

TO: All
RE: Interesting 'Coincidence'

Is it possible that the terrorists have started targeting Aussies in Flight?

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

Regards,

Chuck(le)

195 Chuck Pelto  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:18:05pm

TO: Greg
RE: First...

"Another major attack with multi-thousand of deaths and that will be the end of the world wide airline industry. " -- Greg

It won't take THAT much. Just a few more incidents like the one I suspect happened earlier today (see above).

RE: Furthermore....

"Better get used to driving, walking, buses, bikes or riding the rails." -- Greg

I gave up on flying some time ago. And, I have to admit, I enjoy getting behind the wheel of a good car, with good music, good company and a good computer with GPS.

Get OFF the interstate and SEE the real world. It's much more pleasant. Especially with a GPS and a good looking navigator. And, if you're going through Oregon, go see their 'outback'.

Enjoy,

Chuck(le)

196 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Mar 7, 2007 4:00:40am

TO: All
RE: Interesting 'Coincidence' Reprised

"Is it possible that the terrorists have started targeting Aussies in Flight?" -- Chuck Pelto

Apparently, not. Thank God. At least not to the point that they can cause an airliner to run off the end of a runway and burst into flames. Maybe if the pilot and/or co-pilot suffer from Sudden Jihadi Syndrome, as alleged in that plane crash into the Atlantic that killed a bunch of Egyptian military types, along with everyone else on the plane.

Regards,

Chuck(le)


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