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Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 10:31:12 am PDT

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who left the Netherlands to escape the threats from Islamic misogynists that forced her into isolation, is now being threatened by representatives of the Religion of Peace™ in the United States as well: Hirsi Ali under threat in US.

AMSTERDAM – Former MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali is now in danger in the US as well. Her security has been stepped up for the past three weeks. Because of concrete threats, she is now receiving the same level of protection as she previously needed in the Netherlands, the Volkskrant reports. ...

Hirsi Ali’s protection is carried out by American security personnel commissioned by the Dutch Justice department. Hirsi Ali works at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington DC, a think-tank that has close ties with the Republican party.

As in the Netherlands, the threats against her come from Muslim extremists. They are in connection with the lectures and media appearances Hirsi Ali has been making since the publication of the American version of her autobiography, “The Infidel,” in January.

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1 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:32:38am

We got your back, Ayan

WAKE UP AMERICA

2 equable  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:32:39am

CAIR thugs?

3 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:32:51am

It was only a matter of time, sadly.

Stay safe Ayaan!

4 Joel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:33:06am

Where is the FBI?

5 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:34:07am

#4 Joel
Likely they are attending Islamic sensitivity training classes organized by CAIR

6 ORD neighbor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:35:11am

What's the number of this column doing the threats? Getting tough to keep all these columns straight.

7 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:36:17am

Can we expect an unequivocal statement from CAIR denouncing these threats on Hirsi's life?

8 Bobbo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:36:23am

Okay...I'll step up. I'll protect her.

Does anybody have a copy of "The Bodyguard"? I might need some pointers.

Seriously, I would help her out. I think there are a lot of NRA'ers who would.

9 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:36:31am
As in the Netherlands, the threats against her come from Muslims extremists.

Fixed that. Because I'm sure she's not getting threats from Amish extremists, now is she?

10 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:36:35am

She keeps good enemies.

11 Rednek  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:37:10am

#5 BabbaZee


Likely they are attending Islamic sensitivity training classes organized by CAIR

ugh.

That thought is nauseating because of it's plausiblity.

12 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:38:05am

May God give me the strength to be as dangerous to Islam as this brave woman is.

13 Posted by Post  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:39:03am

No extremist cowards, you do not get to decide who will speak and be heard. That 7th Century debating tactic of murdering your opponents will not be tolerated here.

14 commadore183  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:39:05am

Sorry for the OT, but FOXNews had a blurb saying that there was a bomb threat phoned in at the UN building. Haven't seen anything on the news sites yet. Update when possible.

15 lurking faith  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:40:05am

The Religion of Peaceful Death Threats strikes again.

16 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:40:06am
The bellylaugh of the week came from a story in Der Spiegel which said The German government and NATO's North Atlantic Council have criticized US General Dan McNeill, the new NATO commander in Afghanistan. McNeill has been operating too independently and has been too brash in his choice of words, critics say.

Note to Germany: If you don't want to join the A-Team you don't get to sit at the table with the adults. You sit at the children's table and eat children's portions. It's big boys' games and big boys' rules, so stop whining.

17 Bobbo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:40:19am

#4 Joel

Where is the FBI?

What are you? A troll? The FBI is the government. We are conservatives. Get the government out of my bed, er...my fantasy, er...my life. I said that I would protect her. I won't even ask to be decorated. No medals, please. That is just the sort of guy I am. I only think of how to help others. Especially tall thin modelesque women who are intelligent and articulate. Damn, I am sucker for that every time.

18 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:40:36am

#12 Spenser (with an S)

Amen, brother

19 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:41:09am

No one who is displeasing to these islamists - and their list of offenses is very very long - is safe anywhere in the world.

This will be the case until islam goes the way of the religion of the Aztecs.

What more is there to say ?

If we want not to live in fear it is pretty clear what we have to do.

20 The Albatross  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:41:18am

*Placing tongue in cheek*

Um...don't they mean "in restive Washington D.C.?"
(Ack. Am I the only one sick of that word, restive?)


Give her a gun permit and some target practice.

21 red satellite  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:42:14am

Use to be America, was the last great safe haven. Not anymore. Thanks CAIR.

22 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:42:28am

Ayan can hardly be surprised by this, unfortunately. There is NO "safe" place for those who would challenge 'stan.

/Did you say somebody threatened to blow up the UN? How appalling - completely heartbreaking. What a good excuse for them to move. They would be much safer almsot anywhere else. Antarctica sounds good.

23 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:42:34am
Former MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali is now in danger in the US as well. Her security has been stepped up for the past three weeks. Because of concrete threats, she is now receiving the same level of protection as she previously needed in the Netherlands

If she going to have to start sleeping in jail cells again?

And will the left be denouncing these threats to her life because she exercised free speech? I'm sure she's not surprised by this. She knows the dangers of openly criticising islam. She is brave, and if they do kill her woe upon them. For she will be a martyr and then her message will never die.

24 Daisy  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:43:52am

"Besides glowing reviews in The New York Times and other media, Hirsi Ali is also coming up against opposition because of her uncompromising criticism of Islam."

Anyone else see 'glowing reviews' in the NY Times? I saw the opposite - Ian Baruma trashed her book "Infidel" in the Times Book Review a few weeks ago (but maybe there were good reviews that I missed). Ayyan Hirsi is up against CAIR etc. as well as the American Left. She's in my prayers.

26 Bobbo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:44:19am

I really think this is another instance where the ROP wackos will find that Americans are a little different from our European cousins. We have guns here and have no problem with self-defense and the defense of the innocent. Just like what happened in Atlanta the week before last. When the soldier shot the Arab trying to rush his front door. A few more of these and they might do what burglers do...go find someone easier to pick on. Like the french (sic) and the Germans.

27 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:44:33am
28 NoSubmission  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:45:47am

If these threats were made over the internet, it isn't going to be too difficult to find them. There is no anonymity on the web.

29 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:45:51am

17 Bobbo

I think Joel has a legitimate question. Is the FBI investigating this? That is, after all, their job. Hopefully the people making these threats will be discovered, arrested, and prosecuted. It is what we pay taxes for.

30 cry of defiance and not of fear  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:46:17am

Considering what it costs the American, British, Dutch and every public, everywhere, in security costs, against Islam and Moslems, isn't it about time we reversed the order of dhimmitude and levied a jizya on all Moslems residing in Western countries? Your ideology is a disgrace, so, pay the "shame tax."

31 Ron(Ron)  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:46:35am

So, why have we let these monsters into the U.S.? Is there some great benefit I don't know about? Do we need that many taxi drivers?

32 VAHighlander  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:46:52am

Another one who authentically speaks truth to power, i.e. the Imams.

33 neverquit  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:46:59am

Are the KOS kids claiming that it is really LGFer's posting these messages against Ali to make Muslims look bad?

34 _remembertonyc  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:47:37am

God will protect Hirsi ... and so will America.

Slightly OT ... But has there been any good pieces by respected writers on the consequences of mecca being vaporized?

I'd love to read stuff on this topic if any scaly ones can suggest some material.

Thanks ... And today I should change my moniker to "RememberTonyS"

35 noneya  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:47:47am

I'm just about to start her book! She is an inspiration and a national treasure, we need to protect her at all costs!

36 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:47:47am

For all you liberals wetting yourselves over the non threat posed by the insurgents I think you have your answer to what the Islamo fascist fear more then death or the US military. It is a strong minded, outspoken, opinionated women that is not afraid to face the truth and to speak the truth. If your greatest fear in life is some women talking bad about you then you definetly have some serious insecurity issues.

37 NoSubmission  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:48:17am

29 Sharmuta
I would say yes, the FBI is looking into it. That is their job and they do it well.

38 PatFromGermany  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:48:36am

As a regular lgf reader it is no surprise to me that she is threatened even within the U.S. as you guys obviously have your fair share of the followers of the true "faith".

I hope this will open a few more eyes in the U.S. to the true nature of this CultOfDeath (errr...R.O.P... I mean).

BTW... Are the U.S. MSM finally picking up about what's really going on in Iraq?

Lil' O.T.: I sincerely hope the U.S. is going to destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities since no other nation ('xept Israel) seems to have the guts to do the job. Let the moonbats whail. Who cares? Me, NOT.
I love the smell of moonbat tears in the morning ;-)

39 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:49:34am

24 Daisy

The NYT Sunday magazine had a really good article about her recently.

40 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:50:14am

#22 galloping granny:

Ayan can hardly be surprised by this, unfortunately. There is NO "safe" place for those who would challenge 'stan.


The Islamists pay no attention to those lines on a map of the world that are supposed to delineate national borders. In their mind, there's their territory (the Dar al-Islam), and then there's everybody else's territory, the Dar al-Harb.

41 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:50:57am

Fight your own war on terrorism, laugh at a Muslim today.
/

42 simonml  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:52:07am

From the first article of #25

"program that includes inviting Muslim clerics and leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam. "

What an awesome choice of words there!

43 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:52:22am

Tornado approaching Uncertain, Texas.

44 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:54:02am

#30 cry of defiance:

Considering what it costs the American, British, Dutch and every public, everywhere, in security costs, against Islam and Moslems, isn't it about time we reversed the order of dhimmitude and levied a jizya on all Moslems residing in Western countries?


All Muslims residing in America, whether citizens or not, are protected by our Bill of Rights.

45 cry of defiance and not of fear  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:54:23am

#34 _remembertonyc: I seem to recall that [Link: www.islamundressed.com...] made mention of this notion re Mecca in the same context as the decision to bomb Hiroshima involved the Japanese religious view of the 'rising sun.' Probably, also, the fact that Mecca has not fallen in a battle gives it a (false) notion of invincibility to prop up the essentially imperialist notions of Islam. Sorry I can't help more although you could always stay tuned for further developments...

46 Dianna  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:54:37am

I read Infidel, and the story of her intellectual awakening is interesting. Large portions of it I could have done without.

47 kywrite  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:55:30am

#31 Ron

So, why have we let these monsters into the U.S.?

Compassion -- for refugees from Somalia, Bosnia, the old Russian satellites. They take advantage of our kindness in welcoming them in to attack us.

Hey, isn't that against some Muslim tradition? Oh, wait, it only applies to other Muslims (or "real people", to them).

48 abolitionist  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:57:57am

From the five page letter pinned to Theo's chest, on 02 November 2004.*

So too will we use the same names and send this out ahead of us, so that the heavens and the stars will receive this news and this will be spread as a tidal wave throughout all the corners of the universe.

"I surely know that you, O America, will be destroyed ".

"I surely know that you O Europe, will be destroyed"

"I surely know that you O Holland will be destroyed"

"I surely know that you, O Hirshi Ali will be destroyed"

"I surely know that you, O unbelieving fundamentalists, will be destroyed "

* Anniversary of the Balfour Declaration. It's not just Arabs vs Jews.

49 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:58:56am

#48 abolitionist
Thank you for posting that, I was just doing a search for it, excellent!

50 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:59:19am

Yeah, but they would pull that crap HERE!

oh...wait...

51 new2thezoo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:59:40am

Just keep in mind... we are all infidels. Unless we address this with will and authority, it will be in your neighborhood threatening you. That is how it works. Stay safe Ayaan. The American people stand behind you. It is people like you that have rung the alarm and made people aware of the danger.

52 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:01:23am

If there is to be an attempt against Ms. Hirsi Ali's life here in DC (and I hope there isn't): PLEASE let me just happen to be there, and PLEASE just let me just happen to be armed at the time*. Nothing would make me happier than to get to be her personal Rottweiler, even for just a moment.


*(dunno, on my way to the range or something, let's say)

53 Buck  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:02:56am

OT:

Oooo I discovered the BLOCK button on Digg. It works great, and makes the comments section so much better!

Top left corner, just after the nickname and time posted...don't worry if it seems greyed out. It still works.

54 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:03:14am

If yer religion is so dern peaceful, why you gotta kill everyone who says anything against it? Wouldn't it's peaceful and glorious record withstand criticism?

55 cry of defiance and not of fear  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:03:29am

#44 Persistor: That would be the same Bill of Rights for which Islam and Moslems will have no use once sharia is either fully in place as the only law or recognised as a parallel legal system, as in the acceptance by dhimmis of "veiled" women.

56 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:03:32am

GRRR.

57 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:06:07am

Just remember you stinking tool Bill Maher, Ayann, who was on your nearly worthless masturbation-thon show, is under threat of death for critisizing the RoP, all alone by herself. Whereas you and the f'ing tools you hang with raging against Bush and the machine get rich as you whine all the way to the bank.

58 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:06:36am

#55 cry of defiance:

#44 Persistor: That would be the same Bill of Rights for which Islam and Moslems will have no use once sharia is either fully in place


It's that very Bill of Rights (along with the rest of the Constitution) that makes sharia unconstitutional in America. Unlike other countries, that can and eventually will be argued before the U.S. Supreme Court someday before the War on Terror is over.

/sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

59 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:07:58am

#48 abolitionist

...unbelieving fundamentalists

Unbelieving fundamentalists? Now, that's a new one!

60 pig farmer  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:08:21am

#44
excuse me, but even NON-citizens are protected by our Bill Of Rights? How does that work?

61 Thor-Zone  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:09:00am

I just started reading her book last night. I am looking forward to a good read.

I was saddened when I came across this post today because this lady has been through enough already. I think she is incredibly brave because she must have know what was in store for her when she started down this path.

Keep safe Ayaan and Godspeed.

62 Posted by Post  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:09:07am

#44 Persistor
#55 cry of defiance and not of fear

The same Bill of Rights that will protect Ms. Ali.

63 realwest  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:09:23am

#56 Occasional Reader - LOL! Sorry, I know you meant that to be a photo of a Rottie "on guard" but he just looks cute to me!
You, with a gun, OTOH, would not.
For that matter you without a gun would not! LOL!

I do indeed fear for her, but also recall that the fatwah against Rusdie has been in effect for what... a decade or so and he's still alive and kicking. I hope these mofo's realize that this isn't Europe and when we decided to protect someone, we do.

64 Wisenheimer  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:09:25am

Ahmed Bedier was unavailable for comment.

65 _remembertonyc  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:10:29am

45 Cry of Defiance ...

thanks!

66 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:10:59am

Persistor 44

All Muslims residing in America, whether citizens or not, are protected by our Bill of Rights.


Exactly! And since cancer is in the discussions as of late, it is like a rule that anything that finds its way into the human body is absolutely protected and nourished. That is what we have allowed by viewing the Bill of Rights as an absolute...having forsaken the actual absolute of a moral code from God. Suicide by infectious disease is stupid whether on an indvidual level or national.

67 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:12:28am

#60 pig farmer:

excuse me, but even NON-citizens are protected by our Bill Of Rights? How does that work?


Go read the Bill of Rights. It makes no exception for non-citizens.

68 realwest  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:14:56am

#60 pig farmer - Um, yea, what you said. It was my impression that the Bill of Rights (indeed, the entire US Constitution) was intended to articulate the rights of American Citizens and the behavior of the American Government.

69 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:15:06am

The rights of The People...shall not be infringed...

I guess it depends on who The People are. I consider them as in We, The People, of the United States...

Heck, some people consider The People as just the military.

70 AW  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:15:45am
71 pig farmer  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:16:45am

#67 Persistor
damn... guess that makes us the "good guys". But I've heard some say that the Bill of Rights is NOT a suicide pact--perhaps we'll have to make some changes, now that we're being confronted with pure evil

72 RoyalCanadian  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:17:09am

Of course the bad guys want to kill Ms. Hirsi Ali; she exposes the CAIR media terrorists and the machine gun terrorists for what they are and she exposes islam for what it is. In islam, the truth will make you dead.

As Ms. Hirsi Ali says...the West wants to believe that everyone is the same. The West wants to believe nobody would deliberately murder our children. The West wants to believe nobody would deliberately murder their own children. The West wants to believe that if we leave people alone they will leave us alone. Unfortunately it is just not so.

Ms. Hirsi Ali tells us that islam is incompatible with western democracy and the sooner we listen to her shorter and less painful the coming conflict will be.

73 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:18:30am

Persistor 58

Unlike other countries, that can and eventually will be argued before the U.S. Supreme Court someday before the War on Terror is over.

This seems like a childlike faith in the magic of documents, and now in the magic of judges. If you have judges of the likes of Gingsberg hearing the arguments or perhaps the 9th circuit court of appeals, a much more likely scenario of acceptance of Sharia law exists than you can admit. And we are on a accelerating path to more liberal electoral victories and more liberal judges.

Documents ultimately mean NOTHING if the people have no character or courage. The documents descended from men of character and courage, not people suddenly being created from those documents.

74 samhein  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:18:41am

So, how much longer do we have to wait before our government finally gets off their PC soapbox decides to do something about these P.O.S?

You know, the novel idea of protecting the US from is enemies instead of letting them in to operate on our soil?

75 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:18:48am

"She is wrong to say we are violent! We will murder her for saying that!"

Another day, another ironic death sentence.

76 Chyron  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:23:02am
#57 jehu 3/27/2007 11:06AM PDT

I watch Bill Maher every week. It is sometimes painful, as he can get horribly, insanely left on some issues. I do like to know the latest leftist talking points though, and its an entertaining way to find them out. He occasionally has a competent voice of reason on his show as well. This week had David Frum on it, and he really laid into the proposed alternative energy legislation and people who tout the 'great big oil conspiracy'. No one there had any response to it except "Well if the President knew anything about science". Frum, of course, got the boos, and the idiot who made the President comment got applause.

I will give Bill Maher the credit that he does not put up with people boo'ing opposing viewpoints on the show. That's about all I give him credit for, however.

77 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:23:18am

Tornado about to hit Oil City in Caddo Parish. Take cover immediately.

78 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:24:01am

#62 Posted by post:

The same Bill of Rights that will protect Ms. Ali.


Exactly right!

Unlike Europe or Canada, we will never see so-called "hate speech" laws passed in this country that would be so restrictive as to make it impossible to her to publish (as what happened with Oriana Fallaci in Europe).

Because that pesky ol' Constitution and Bill of Rights just keeps getting in the way. It would have protected Oriana Fallaci too, had she been a naturalized American citizen residing in the States.

/Bill of Rights: don't leave home without it

79 finallyhere  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:25:06am

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]
On the other hand Condi Rice is trying to become "honest broker" between terrorists and their victims.

That will be very helpful to win hearts and minds of people who use kids as a cover for carbombs. Sell your friends, especially if they are only Joos, and everything will be great.

80 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:26:43am


Iran’s terror navy
A US sailor sends an email to HotAir,

I don’t think it was widely reported, but the last time The ‘Wood was in the NAG (North Arabian Gulf) (from roughly Oct ‘04 until Jan ‘05) the Brits had a standoff with the Iranians. It was early December ‘04 if i remember correctly when for a reason we could never ascertain, something like 5 or 6 merchant vessels ran aground trying to enter the Shat’ al Arab, which is roughly the dividing line between Iranian and Iraqi waters (depending upon who you ask, as you might imagine). A British Boarding Team boarded one of the aground vessels to try to figure out why so many vessels ran aground at the same time. While in the merchant vessel, small boats from the Iranian Republican Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) surrounded the vessel and the British small boat standing by. The picture I believe is classified, but you can imagine the reaction of the guys in the RHIB when there were two IRGCN RHIBs within 20 feet, pointing AK-47’s and an RPG at them. Needless to say the RHIB backed off and returned to the ship. The Boarding Team hunkered down and the diplomacy started. It ended with the Boarding Team getting lifted off the merchant via helicopter, a needlessly dangerous operation, because the Iranians gave them permission to do so by air but only until sunset. After that all bets would be off.

81 Bobbo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:27:04am

#29 Sharmuta

Yes, I agree with both you and Joel. The FBI does need to look into this. And I am sure they are on the job.

You just have to understand. I have had a crush on her since the first time I saw her speak. What a woman. And I would actually be honored to help her, and any other refugees from Islam. But she is special to me. Whoaaa!

82 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:27:36am

Do you notice what they left out in the article? What the threats are about.

If I read that anyone was threatened with death, my first thought would be, "My goodness, why?"

One would imagine a journalist, trained in who-what-when-where-why-and-how, would have mentioned what is the main question.

The closest it comes is saying the threats as

in connection with the lectures and media appearances Hirsi Ali has been making since the publication of the American version of her autobiography, "The Infidel," in January.

Vague, isn't it? In connection? Like maybe her lectures bounced an appearance of some boy band and tween-aged girls are going to kill her? Perhaps a competing publishing house whose book is tanking?

And of course, she has been under a death threat long before the publication in America of her book, or the lectures.

Just say it, she is under a death threat because she criticizes Islam.

83 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:30:00am

Our Bill of Rights would protect Oriana Fallaci from laws and threats here in America, while she was living in America. But if she remained an Italian citizen, it wouldn't protect her from lawsuits issued by Italian courts. In which case she would be a "woman without a country"--she could never go back to Italy even for a visit.

That's why I said in such a case, she would be better off becoming a naturalized citizen.

84 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:30:51am

Chyron 76

It is not Maher's viewpoint that is an irratant to me so much, he is entitled to that viewpoint. It is using the cheers of his idiot drug-addled audiences to re-inforce his viewpoint, to dampen and castigate the usual one lone conservative he has on the panel.

Same crap with his totally oppositely named Politically Incorrect show. Few liberals can debate or present their view without an adoring brain-dead salivating audience. It is the viewpoint of cowards and follow the stupid unthinking herd...popularity and being liked is GOD to the progressive.

85 daughter of patriots  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:32:07am

Who's not threatened in the US by Islamists when speaking truth to taqiyah?

Lots of folk live in secure undisclosed locations, some with personal security. Steven Emerson. Robert Spencer.

How about the regular folk who write a letter to the editor about some local Muslim encroachment? Are they not to be wary and keep watch?

War within. Its here, and it arrived before 9/11/01.

86 theblakester  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:32:35am

This is truly sad. What will CAIR do ?
I noticed that she is working with the Republicans. Wouldn't the Democrats want to work with her to protect her rights as a women?
Furthermore, maybe working with the Republicans has something to do with her looks. Is it just me, all the women who side with the Republicans are just so smokin' hot! I could name a few but I'd wouldn't know where to begin with the list.

87 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:34:16am

Roggio's daily report from Iraq, more good news you won't be reading anywhere else:

On March 21, U.S. troops from the 82nd Airborne Division captured the leader and the second in command of the deadly Adhamiyah cell, which is believed to be responsible for the murder of 900 Iraqis and the wounding of another 1,950. The cell is believed to be responsible for the majority of the major suicide and truck bombs inside Sadr City. Haytham Kazim Abdallah Al-Shimari, the 'emir' or leader of the cell, was captured with his driver after attempting to avoid a U.S. patrol. Haydar Rashid Nasir Al-Shammari Al-Jafar, Haytham's deputy, and two aides, were captured in a separate incident, also while traveling in Baghdad.
88 scaramouche  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:34:37am

Hirsi Ali's autobiography was one of the most gripping, moving, harrowing, inspiring books I have ever read. It should be required reading for everyone who values freedom, and especially by those who take those freedoms for granted.

89 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:34:52am

Persistor-

I'm going to go with cry of defiance and not of fear on this. Muslims should be made to pay the jizyah, and I say this because islam is not just a "religion" it is a form of government. Therefore, they should lose their tax-exempt status and pay taxes to the government upholding the Bill of Rights that protects their right to spew their vile hatred, to the government they wish to overthrow and replace with their own islamic government system- a system that will be sure to make you pay a jizyah. You can take that to the bank.

90 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:35:07am

OT - Because I couldn't resist

Defense attorneys on Tuesday will use poll numbers to try and persuade a judge that a trial for a polygamist sect leader accused of rape as an accomplice should be moved to a different county because news reports here have tainted the potential jury pool.

Plus, they can't find anyone who isn't an in-law of his.

91 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:35:42am

#82 Silhouette
Excellent point.

92 dead sea squirrel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:35:56am
#78 Persistor 3/27/2007
Because that pesky ol' Constitution and Bill of Rights just keeps getting in the way.

Including that pesky ol' second amendment, which probably prevents the Islamists from using some of their favorite tactics here (e.g., cowing the populace with lower-level violence like car burnathons).

93 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:36:09am

#66 jehu:

That is what we have allowed by viewing the Bill of Rights as an absolute


I would rather keep the Bill of Rights as it is, thank you very much.

This is one thing that separates conservatism from fascism (which is a radical political movement).

Conservatives honor America's traditions, legal and otherwise. To be consistent, we have to honor the original spirit of the Constitution (cf. Federalist Papers), even when we don't like it.

We conservatives didn't like it when liberals came up with a tortured logic to pull a constitutional right to abortion out of their butts.

And we don't want to start pulling new interpretations of the Bill of Rights out of our butts either.

Twisting the Constitution to support left-wing goals is socialism. Twisting the Constitution to support right-wing goals is fascism.

True conservatives are opposed to both.

94 TimeQuake  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:36:10am

The truth is, it's not safe anywhere from this cult. I'm talking worldwide here.

And the story (along with so many other "little" stories) about certain web sites being banned in certain places is just the start of it all going downhill. I really fear for OUR future (perhaps future generations won't even be around).

Gloomy mood today.

95 Apprentice  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:36:45am

OT-
About 100 "youths" clash with police and subway inspectors in Paris. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere I haven't checked all the links and comments.

96 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:37:24am

Just when you thought the Democrats couldn't get any dumber:

Democrat Proposes Making Withdrawal Date Secret
Only Congress, White House and Iraqi Government Would Know Plan

97 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:39:59am

#82 Silhouette

"He who dictates and formulates the words and phrases we use, he who is master of the press and radio, is master of the mind. Repeat mechanically your assumptions and suggestions, diminish the opportunity for communicating dissent and opposition. This is the formula for political conditioning of the masses."
~ Meerloo

RAPE OF THE MIND

98 jamil hussein  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:40:09am

Could this just be a hit piece on the U.S. by the Dutch? Credible sources? Where is Jamil Hussein?

99 Buck  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:41:24am

#86 theblakester
What will CAIR do ? They will try and make the press believe that the threats are made up, and if not made up then planted by Zionists.

After all, they will say, who stands to benefit?

100 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:42:09am

Extremely impressive velocity couplet on Fort Polk WSR-88D NexRad Doppler radar just Northwest of Shreveport shows location of tornado!

101 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:42:26am

I don't understand.

Why would the Americans want to kill her?

102 Highrise  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:43:56am

25 BabbaZee

Don't you know by now we use the guise of *education/training* to strip our men of their balls? We strip them of their inner voice that tells them to act? We make them go through a thought process during a threat that they normally would never go through...risking their lives and the lives of many others just to make a possible perp not feel embarrassed.

My dad (the former Marine Corpsman) shook his head with all this stuff going on, I told him we act like a nation of wimps...we have become wimpified, intellectually and politically. Our minds are so trained to death, we no longer can think about survival.

103 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:44:24am

Re #100 Plain Dealing in Bossier Parish is in path of what is probably a strong tornado.

104 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:44:42am

#96 Kenneth

Only Congress, White House and Iraqi Government Would Know Plan

and the guy who works in the mailroom at the New York Times, ...well maybe that guy who squeegees your car windows downtown, but that is all I swear, ..well maybe Mayor Nagin so he will know when he canget more Nat'l Guard trooops to patrol his streets, but that is all i swear, nobody will be any wiser.
Unless of course they soemhow notice our troops loading up thousands of pounds of equipment, ammo and vehicles and heading to the airport, but there is no way they would ever notice.
/y'all elected these idjits

105 dead sea squirrel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:44:52am
#85 daughter of patriots
Who's not threatened in the US by Islamists when speaking truth to taqiyah?
Lots of folk live in secure undisclosed locations, some with personal security. Steven Emerson. Robert Spencer.

Good point. Death threats against critics of Islam are not exactly rare.

I hope Charles takes all the necessary precautions.

106 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:46:12am

#102 Highrise
Yes, I know all too well by now. I have been aware of the grand pussification of the American Male for 20 years.

107 Persistor  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:50:09am

#92 dead sea squirrel:

Including that pesky ol' second amendment, which probably prevents the Islamists from using some of their favorite tactics here


Exactly right!

That's why if there's going to be any philosophical stand taken against Islamism, it will have to come from America.

We did something the Islamists can't circumvent: We wrote down our basic principles (like the 2nd Amendment), in writing, and swore way back in 1789 to live by those principles.

108 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:51:05am

#96 Kenneth

Dare to start a pool on how long that one would last?

I wouldn't give it 10 minutes.

109 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:51:59am
110 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:52:37am
111 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:52:52am

Maybe Rep. Webb can protect her. He is packing heat.
(Illegaly in DC I hear. Yeah, I know. Laws passed by liberal democrats do not apply to liberal democrats)

112 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:52:53am

OT
Porcine Hero of the Month

Pretty Piggy

Look into my eyes

Dasiey took on pit bull to save her young master.

113 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:54:41am

I just got here. Any comments about Senator Webb packing heat?

Two clips & a loaded pistol! Dang!

114 dead sea squirrel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:55:02am

197 Persistor

I do agree with you that the US Constitution (+ Bill of Rights) is probably as radically incompatible with Islamism as a document can possibly be.

115 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:55:38am

Southern Columbia County (the worst misses our big Jurassic Smackover field in Lafayette County) in Arkansas is next in the path of what looks like a monster tornado, and El Dorado could be in the line of fire if this cell holds together.

116 m  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:56:03am

#101 Ben Hur ~ Islamist do, whatever their nationality or present address.

117 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:56:07am

#113 unrecontructed rebel
Stay factually accurate. It was an aid to Sen Webb who was carrying the gun and ammo which did belong to Webb.

118 Daisy  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:57:08am

#39 Mandy Manners,

Thanks for the info. I'll look through the archives. The Sunday NY Times Book Review on her book was dismal. Mainly, her enemies in the States are the Islamists and the Leftists. If the NY Times decides to report truthfully about her (and you say they have) that's a positive thing - it may help ameliorate the ignorant enmity from the Left.

119 rcris5  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:57:30am

Sure, she is a socialist, but man is she a hottt "looker." Ragious, elegant lady, I'd defend her at any cost, just for a smile and nod of approval.

Brilliant mind as well...ahh, whatever.

120 abu_garcia  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:57:54am

#31 Ron(Ron)

So, why have we let these monsters into the U.S.?

Because of the Captain of the good ship Oldsmobile, the Senior Balloon from Massachusetts, and his Immigration Reform Act of 1965.

But never fear, said Captain is out to "reform" immigration again, this time with his RINO cohorts.

121 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:58:15am

107 Persistor

We did something the Islamists can't circumvent: We wrote down our basic principles (like the 2nd Amendment), in writing, and swore way back in 1789 to live by those principles.

You realize the islamists can say the same thing. They wrote down their basic principles (like the koran) in writing and swore way back in 630 (or so) to live by those principles. They would say we can't circumvent that.

122 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:58:20am

Persistor 93

Good to have a religion, I guess yours is the Constitution is actually the same thing now as the founders intended. It is a shadow of orginal intent. Can you imagine the decision last year that municipalities can seize private property now because one group can get more money off it via taxes?

You see our founding documents as a final protection to tyrany almost as if they are invested with magic. I see them as so many words lawyers can use in any manner they desire, including bringing us all into bondage as is being done daily.

When will people understand words and papers mean NOTHING, if the spirit is perverted. Did we learn nothing from the life of Christ who came as the promise of all scripture and prophecy and was killed by the experts, the lawyers over all those writings? Fools will believe to the end that some magic will protect us Americans from darkness, when the truth is darkness is hunting us actively now, and instead of facing it and fighting from our guts...with our spirits, we stupidly retreat behind papers mumbling useless incantations. The Islamists have our number and use our superstitious beliefs against us.

123 3 wood  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:58:40am

Well, HuffPo may have turned off their comments on the Tony Snow thread to keep their ghouls from celebrating, but that sure has not stopped them. They just have used some of the other threads to pile on a cheer. Get a load of this one on their "eight self-inflicted wounds thread:

It is very much my business that Tony Snow is going to die of liver cancer soon. HE doesn't have to worry about going bankrupt or using his children's inheritence to pay for his treatment. HE HAS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! And still, he will lie and obfuscate for his corporate masters.
No one should die of cancer, but it is ironic that the MSM shows such sympathy when the rich and powerful are diagnosed, but they don't give a damn about the poor. No, the reich-wing complains about Medi-Care!
Fuck Tony and Fuck Beto. I hope they burn in hell and soon. By: smootybooty on March 27, 2007 at 02:00pm

124 republic  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:59:20am

#117 Just_A_Grunt

#113 unrecontructed rebel
Stay factually accurate. It was an aid to Sen Webb who was carrying the gun and ammo which did belong to Webb.

What I read yesterday, said that Webb, as well as all Senators and Representatives, can have a firearm, the aid did not have a carry conceal permit, which is why he was arrested.

125 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:59:35am

#117 Just_A_Grunt

So, why does Webb need heat in his handbag that the lackey was ferrying?

126 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:59:50am

Controversial Documentary Debuts on PBS, Global TV

From Gemini Award-winning director Ian McLeod comes Faith Without Fear, a bold one-hour documentary special that follows controversial Canadian author, journalist and outspoken Muslim, Irshad Manji on a personal quest to reconcile her faith in Allah with her love of freedom.

Faith Without Fear premieres on PBS Stations, Thursday, April 19th - 9pm ET/PT and on Global Television, Saturday, April 21st - 8pm ET/PT.

Once described by The New York Times as “Osama bin Laden’s worst nightmare,” Manji, the best-selling author of The Trouble with Islam Today, traveled throughout Europe, the Middle East and North America speaking out against injustice and violence taking place under the banner of Islam.

Inspired by Islam’s holy book the Qur’an, Manji seeks answers from the Muslim community on how this religion of justice and freedom has become an ideology of fear, and challenges believers to standup for Islam’s fundamental principles as set out by Allah. She refers back to ijtihad, the ancient Muslim tradition of independent thinking, and encourages Muslims of the 21st century to embrace this practice.

Not a chance, it doesn't involve death.

127 Highrise  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:59:52am

106 BabbaZee

haha I know you do. As a mere Engineer I had to take courses like this and it was such bs.

128 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:00:21am

#95 Apprentice

I checked that story about the "yout's" rioting in the Paris subway... at the Gare de Nord station...which, I'm sure you're as surprised as I am, is the main link to the Arab banlieu in the Paris suburbs.

129 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:00:34am

And speaking of pigs at the trough, John Conyers was here in Mermphis for a Town Hall meeting with Mermphis' newest congressman, Steve Cohen. Steve, who is white but who wants to be officially declared black by act of Congressional Black Caucus slobbered all over Conyers. Conyers spewed the usual Liberal pap and impeachment rhetoric. Someone should post a lowlights video clip.

130 Maximu§  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:01:05am

#102 Highrise

Lets not forget medicating any boy who shows spunk with Ritilin and other mind warping drugs.

Its my opinion that a majority of American school teachers are Woman, who have no idea how to deal with boys, so the schools force the parents to medicate them or remove them.

131 ShowMeStateOfMind  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:01:22am

What the deuce is up with the Republican reference in that article? How does it help a reader to now a completely tangential fact... that the firm she works for is "closely related" to one party or another?

Are they saying somehow that it is the Republican Party's fault? Or perhaps that the Democrats are targeting her because of her assistance to The Dark Side?

What is the point, exactly?

132 republic  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:01:54am

#123 3 wood

I hope they burn in hell and soon. By: smootybooty on March 27, 2007 at 02:00pm

This poor fool doesn't see his own doom.

133 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:02:00am
134 TimeQuake  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:03:50am

Webb is a Virginia resident, which means he could carry openly here in the state and /or have a CHP license. I wonder if he has a CHP license and was outed in the Roanoke Times like me. Friday night, 8pm, CNN, a segment on this situation here in Virginia with the Virginia Citizens Defense League and the newspaper that printed all 136k plus Virginians, names and addresses, that hold the license.

Regardless, I will never have any respect for this man, Jim (I want to punch the POTUS) Webb, after the incident at the White House reception, and he's my new senator. UGH!

135 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:03:59am

Feminists.

136 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:04:52am

#124 republic

Interesting. So 2nd amendment applies only to the governing class? Interesting.

137 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:05:10am

Was that the magic word or something?

138 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:05:22am

jehu: It is glaringly obvious that a written constitution cannot stop, for instance, a determined tyrant with ample armed force at his disposal. But it makes the rise of that tyrant less likely. As someone noted above, there is a reason that Falacci ultimately sought refuge here.

Someone once compared a constitution to a lock on your front door. Sure, it won't stop a professional, skilled burglar, but it will keep your neighbors from just strolling in and stealing your things when you're not home. And that's worth something.

139 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:06:10am

Not entirely OT:

Today marks the fifth anniversary since McCain Feingold was passed. For those who think that just because laws were passed saying "Congress shall make no law...abridging the right to free speech" doesn't mean that Congress, President, and Supreme Court can't come along and completely redefine those terms to mean something quite less.

In the process, everyone lost a bit of free speech - the kind that matters most - political speech.

This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts - that you have clear and unambiguous language and yet folks find some way to completely reinterpret them to mean something completely different.

#96 kenneth:
Double secret withdrawal date? What could go wrong?

How long would it take for the leakers to leak? Of course, all this must be set against the backdrop of a troop surge that appears to be cautiously improving the situation and that if you look at polling shows that there is more optimism about the situation there than just a few weeks ago. The troops on the ground there are also seeing results.

140 squarepeg  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:07:30am

#46 dianna

Large portions of it I could have done without.

I'm curious. Explain, please?

141 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:07:40am
but it will keep your neighbors from just strolling in and stealing your things

That's some neighborhood you live in Mr. Rogers.

142 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:08:01am

Oops! Gotta run.

I still find the whole Webb thing amusing. Hypocrisy anyone?

143 Golem Akbar  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:08:47am

This threat has a lot more meaning, AFAIC. If we lose in Iraq, the same thing that is happening in Europe will start happening in the US. North America will become a haven for Islamo-fascism and there will be many more 9/11-type events. What happened to AHA in Holland will happen all over the world and no one will be safe, anywhere.

144 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:09:31am

Also, jehu #122:

Can you imagine the decision last year that municipalities can seize private property now because one group can get more money off it via taxes?

Actually, the only thing the Constitution has to say on the subject is: " nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." That's it. Maybe there SHOULD have been more in the Constitution on the subject, but the fact is, there isn't. (And by the way, I, too, think the facts behind Kelo are somewhat outrageous.)

145 Highrise  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:10:56am

130 Maximu§ 3/27/2007 12:01PM PDT

Lets not forget medicating any boy who shows spunk with Ritilin and other mind warping drugs.

Agreed, although there are a lot of men who have been at the top of the list running those schools from day one. So I think this extends way deeper than women not understanding boys. It usually was my mom that held my dad's hand from spanking my brother because he was just busy as a boy.

I think it comes from a society that must control and protect the establishment and show it is working..after all, a kid that sits still, nods heads, doesn't question, and bubbles in the right circle on a test is what secures the paycheck. Before drugs, the ruler was used to crack knuckles if one slouched and whoa be to the kid who's dad gets told of any misbehaviour at school for fear of being taken behind the woodshed.

I seem to remember doing something very kid like..calling a boy queen of the idiots after he called me queen of the ants. After a spanking from school, I got a whipping at home..the other kid, got nothing. What a message that sent me..did my dad bother to ask the circumstances? No, he just went along with what he experienced when his teachers would tell his dad. I will never repeat that behaviour with my child(ren)..my dad was wrong and to this day, I do my best not to hold that one incident against him (he wasn't a beater but kids remember these things).

146 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:11:24am

#141 PK:

That's some neighborhood you live in

We actually just shorten it to 'hood. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go "roll" with my "homies".

147 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:12:31am

I, for one, welcome our new Ant Queen Overlords.

148 Peacekeeper  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:12:39am

Don't forget to slap your bitch up.

149 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:12:44am

Germany is toast:

German native population shrinking ; Islamic influence rising

A human-rights activist dedicated to debunking the overpopulation myth says even the German government admits that a low birth rate and Islamic immigration may forever change the face of the German nation. The Germans, he says, have nobody to blame but themselves.

German journalist and university lecturer Udo Ulfkotte recently warned that Islam is slowly but surely taking a grip on the European culture. He said more and more institutions are making allowances for Muslims, and even Islamic « sharia » law is beginning to take hold because 40 percent of Germany’s Muslims are convinced the country’s constitution is incompatible with Islam.

Steve Mosher, president of the Population Research Institute, says while he mourns the loss of Christian Europe, he says the demographic changes there are the result of the fact that two generations ago, Europeans « lost their way. » He contends that their refusal to have children has paved the way for the eventual Islamic domination of the continent. And with a much higher birth rate among Muslims, it is easy how Islamic influence will continue to grow in Germany, he says.

« If one people has babies and the other doesn’t, the shift in population can occur in the blink of an eye, » he shares. « The loss of Christian Europe is not being caused by Muslims ; it’s being caused by the fact Europeans lost their way. »

150 squarepeg  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:13:49am

#139 lawhawk

How long would it take for the leakers to leak?

And then how long would it take for the leak to be blamed on Dick Cheney?

151 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:15:49am

#117 just a grunt

And the aid stated Webb gave it to him. So Webb was carrying at that point.
CNN (yeah, I know. It is not a reliable news source)
stated it was illegal to pack in DC with a VA weapons permit. The DC royalty have one rule, the local serfs another? Any locals now the law?

Webb dodged the question on the legality of it, saying he choose to protect him and his family.
This I have no problem with, except they outlaw it for everyone else.

152 3 wood  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:15:50am

Some more true essence of what HuffPo is all about, with regard to Tony Snow:

Now tell me...

Who else do you know that feels compelled to look at you every time you ask a question and tell you that, since the whole world is watching, he'll gladly redtate what you really meant to ask in a manor not as embarrassing to the President.

he only did it at news conferences. You've never seen him do it at a party or anywhere else.

Ain't like it was his nature. No, he was more than a mouthpiece, he is a fucking bully.
By: BLOGGINGBITCH on March 27, 2007 at 02:04pm

then there's this:

about snow's cancer returning... on which we can't comment...


I guess there is a God, and he says it's time for you to die and go face judgement...

Whatever your God's name is... whatever you call it, karma or whatever...

isn't it time your come clean while still here and show contrition and reparation for your ctimes?
By: PaulRevere20 on March 27, 2007 at 02:22pm

and:

Kerry "took the high road" in 2004 and was bashed for it
Snow and there rest of the stinking Republiscum horde deserve the same treatment and commentary that they've dished out to others

I don't have any sympathy for that low life shill Tony Snow or any fucking Repukeliscum
By: DonR on March 27, 2007 at 02:25pm

not to mention the chorteling:

Since we're on the subject of Tony Snow...I wish him all the best with his battle. My heart goes out to his family.

But...

I've got a couple of questions.
Why is he anouncing this now? Is he trying to take advantage of his illness to distract from ongoing investigations into this administration?
Why doesn't he go home, curl up on the couch and await death?

Oh...hold it...I'm channelling trolls for some reason and transmorgrifying the Edwards talking points onto Snow.

My bad.

heh.
By: SupremeIdiot on March 27, 2007 at 02:25pm

and the always lefty favorite, the conspiracy theory:

I can't help but think this is one of those times - when someone lies so much; day after day; even when they've practically been begged for the truth - still can't tell it.

This is one of those times (chicken little) No matter how much I try not to be cynical; to believe (maybe, not Bush) but at least the story about T Snow - I just can't.

Is it a political ploy? Is it a detractor to take our minds from Gonzo, Rove and GW himself; and the pressure that is working?..

I can't help but think that, even if it is true, they are glad he has a cancer to "relieve" them for a couple of days. To let them catch their breath.

I see them huddled around "Tony's" bed agreeing that this couldn't have come at a more opportune time.

I'm sorry. They did this.
By: lenni on March 27, 2007 at 02:39pm

153 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:15:55am

3wood,

It is very much my business that Tony Snow is going to die of liver cancer soon. HE doesn't have to worry about going bankrupt or using his children's inheritence to pay for his treatment. HE HAS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! And still, he will lie and obfuscate for his corporate masters.
No one should die of cancer, but it is ironic that the MSM shows such sympathy when the rich and powerful are diagnosed, but they don't give a damn about the poor. No, the reich-wing complains about Medi-Care!
Fuck Tony and Fuck Beto. I hope they burn in hell and soon. By: smootybooty on March 27, 2007 at 02:00pm

Who the hell is Beto?

154 sandspur  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:16:15am

73 jehu

"Statesmen by dear Sir, may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand... John Adams (letter to Zabdiel Adams, 21 June 1776)
155 grayp  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:16:16am

Someone upthread mentioned Ian Baruma's disgraceful review of "Infidel".

Pascal Bruckner nails his ass.

Buruma's portrait is of formidable ambiguity. It celebrates her courage so as better to deplore her blindness and fanaticism on the question of human rights, both of which led her astray in her struggle against religion. Under the guise of an objective reportage, Burma pronounces mezza voce a veritable condemnation. Moreover, supported by Timothy Garton Ash, Ian Buruma has come out in support of the highly controversial Tariq Ramadan, who in the New York Times of February 4, 2007 (online here at the International Herald Tribune) he casts as the sole serious dialogue partner of reformist Islam
[]
This is why I continue to prefer the position of Ayaan Hirsi Ali over that of Tariq Ramadan, even now that he has become a friend of tolerance and a prophet of anti-capitalism. In his laudatory portrait of Ramadan - that borders on hagiography despite minor reservations - Ian Buruma still manages to reveal some worrying traits in his new champion. I will refer to only one. While propagating the feminine sense of shame and recommending that Muslim women should abstain from shaking men's hands and using mixed swimming pools if they wish, Tariq Ramadan states that for his part, he does shake women's hands. Yes, you read it right: in 2007, a self-styled "progressive" Muslim preacher who has received the support of the entire French extreme Left for his anti-liberalism, pushes audaciousness to the point of admitting that he shakes women's hands. He should be named secretary of state for the condition of women!

In his response to my essay, Ian Buruma argues for Islamic hospitals on the grounds that there are Christian and Jewish hospitals. Similarly, he justifies beaches reserved for Muslim women with the existence of nudist beaches, passing the difference off as a matter of taste. Necla Kelek has rightly pointed out that Islamists aim to establish an out and out segregation of men and women right across society, in medical care, in leisure and education, and so to install a regime of voluntary apartheid within open societies. The problem with this defence of multiculturalism in the name of tolerance is clear: it leads to the end of the common world

156 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:17:59am

107 persistor

That seems rather naive to me, and believing it could cause us to falsely think that we're safe.

If 1st world Christians, continue to have extremely low birth rates then we can and will be simply taken over in a couple of gen's by the vote afforded in our democracy. Whites especially in the US and Oz have very low rates. Japan has her own issues with low marriage and birth rates, and will become Korean/Phillipino if something doesn't change there.

Europe will fall the soonest as she brings in and/or allows to illegally immigrate millions of Muslims. They're already o'crowding Germany's nursing homes and schools. Statistically, others will follow suit; only the mixes will differ.

157 pat  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:18:51am

If we had a government that was truly concerned about Islamic hate elements within the USA, this would be seen as an unparalled opportunity to go after extremists. As it is, the Federal Bureau of Idiots no doubt considers this woman a bother.

158 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:18:51am
159 Highrise  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:19:01am

155 grayp

Gave me a good idea. We can show our support of her by buying her book, Infidel, and donate it to the local library. I bought it a week or so ago and when done reading it, I'll donate it.

Got mine off of ebay..not too bad of a price. Amazon.com is fairly decent prices.

160 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:21:27am
161 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:22:15am

156 cont'd

Oh, and learn Espanol in the meantime... You'll need it.

162 Render  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:23:13am

The FBI is not just attending CAIR training sessions.

The FBI has and will reveal the victims name, current home address, and phone number, directly to the person or persons that are doing the threatening. (Debbie Schussel, and at least one anon Lizard.)

These aint Hoovers guys anymore, and like the CIA and several other "law" enforcement/"intelligence" agencies, I'm begining to wonder who's side they're on.

Actually...

I've been wondering about that ever since Janet Reno was issuing "shoot-to-kill" and "burn them out with tanks" orders over the telephone.

Who are these people?

ALL ROADS LEAD
TO GETTYSBURG,
R

163 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:26:53am

157 pat

And this woman

164 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:28:34am

#150 squarepeg:

I take the 5th on that. /no perjury traps for me...

165 tradewind  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:28:56am

I hope she stays safe... but if anyone makes a run at her, I hope the fibbies or SOMEONE in charge is set up to move in and grab 'em.
Bonus pts if it's a ROP'er from CAIR.

166 ec marm  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:29:31am

This should be interesting, former Bill Maher joke writer at the Heritage Foundation. YouTube video, about 45 minutes long. "How Modern Liberals Think"

167 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:30:30am
168 lostlakehiker  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:32:03am

Ayaan has made her decision. She's Dutch. It isn't the first momentous decision she's made in her life. She isn't the sort to back down.

(Read the book. It's incredible. She has had such a terribly hard life, and has come through it tempered to the finest steel ever made.)

She is an honored guest. We will protect her to the full extent of our capacities.

169 Posted by Post  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:32:19am

Law practitioners, legal minds, distant cousins, a question.

Is it possible to incorporate the tactics that are employed by the Kansas “church” that protest at warrior’s funerals in the fight to quell this intolerable attack on our life, liberty and free speech?

When they, who’s name can not be mentioned (turn, spit), go to high profile and highly emotional settings to taunt mourners, their biggest threat is launching multiple lawsuits if they perceive civil rights violations.

It is my understanding they not only go after the poor soul who may have been goaded into a threat, or even a push, but they also target the city and county authorities that allowed it to happen.

Can we learn from these tactics? Can we pressure authorities to take action against this group of life threatening cretins and their support groups who facilitate their hate? I know this task will be difficult, if not impossible, because they use the anonymous cloak of the coward when they threaten anyone. Try we must.

Is there anything to be done, legally yet effectively, to meet this latest threat head on and with great ferocity?

170 gringo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:32:22am

#13 Posted by Post
No extremist cowards, you do not get to decide who will speak and be heard. That 7th Century debating tactic of murdering your opponents will not be tolerated here.
___
I share your sentiments and wish it were true, but the fact is I think it isn't. Notice she's still being protected by Dutch authorities. I don't see any US legal enforcement stepping forward and I doubt that I will.

171 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:32:35am
172 Batman  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:34:18am

Islam is evil, as well as Linux, wake up guys!

173 tradewind  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:34:19am

#160,

Pee-ewww, indeed.

174 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:35:27am

The Koskidz just couldn't hold out very long (#1 recommended diary)...
I Don't Care About Tony Snow

Let me be crystal clear about this, because I don't want anyone to mistake this sentiment.

I am NOT glad that Tony Snow has cancer. Cancer is a horrible thing. My father is suffering through a terrible bout of cancer right now. I do not wish cancer on anyone. It is a tragic disease that no one should suffer from.

That being said, why I do have to pretend I care about Tony Snow? That I'm "praying" for him? That I send out my thoughts to his family?

I don't.

I don't care about Tony Snow. At all. And I'm not going to pretend I do just so I can prove a larger point to the wingnut base of racists and hate-mongers.

So no, I'm not going to pray for Tony Snow. I'm sorry to hear he has cancer, and that's about it. Other than that, I'm not going to give that lying scumbag another thought.


The party of "Screw Them".

175 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:36:52am

3 wood

No haters over there.

176 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:36:56am
177 republic  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:38:04am

#174 Killgore Trout

The party of "Screw Them".

The party of secular, Democrats.

According to your Pew Poll, it is where America is headed.

What a sad thought.

178 tradewind  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:38:18am

@169,

You can litigate 'til the camels cows come home, but ultimately what will have an effect is when they jump the shark and there is another outrage in the name of allah dumped on the United States. I hope I am wrong.

179 Terp Mole  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:38:30am

Tucson: Muslims march for submission peace with apes and pigs Jews;

Walk urges peace among faiths

Participants of different faiths walked to show their support for peace between religions at the fourth annual Jewish-Muslim Peace Walk (video) yesterday.

180 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:39:56am

Troofers know that it's the same Joos who dynamited WTC 7

Building Collapses In East Harlem; One Injured

181 PrimePowerPro  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:40:24am

#151 Hous bin Pharteen

DC doesn't recip VA's CC permit. NO handguns in DC, unless you're a cop or (I'm just guessing on this point) a Congressman.

182 sandspur  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:43:14am

174 Killgore Trout

Hasn't anyone ever told those people "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"?
Particularly shen someone is ill or bereaved.
They must have all been raised by wolves.
Manners, people!

183 3 wood  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:43:39am

#153 dirk

Who the hell is Beto?

I think it was an earlier poster who told him to cool it.

By the way, the pure hate at HuffPo is really coming out now. Somebody told the ugly ones to cool it, and out came this:

I haven't said a word either way, but if Hitlers spokesman was diagnosed with cancer, would everyone wish him the best ? I know dumbya isn't Hitler, he just has some similarities. I think its a valid question. If we all were Mr. Spock the world would be different, it would be logical, and hence, their would be no bush crime family.
By: lornejl on March 27, 2007 at 03:03pm

and:

Wonder how many times Tony told his doctors what they really meant to say?
By: BLOGGINGBITCH on March 27, 2007 at 03:12pm

and:

650,000+ Iraqis deserved the right to live their days as they saw fit. Snow Job and the rest of the stinking Bush scum denied them that right by killing them

Thousands of Muslims in Gitmo deserve the right to live out their days as they see fit - again the Bush scum including Snow job have denied them that right

Fuck Tony Snow - I have ZERO sympathy for him or any Repukeliscum.
By: DonR on March 27, 2007 at 03:13pm

184 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:43:57am

#177 republic
I'm still mulling over those poll results but those poll results aren't surpising. We won't see a return of old school - religious right conservatism any time soon. That's fine by be but the Republicans need to take notice. The time is right for Rudy.

185 PrimePowerPro  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:45:26am

#181 Me

That's the worst facet of Ms Ali hiding out in DC; you don't have the right to arm yourself for defence there. If you own a weapon, you have to keep it unloaded and disassembled or locked up. It's kind of hard to stop a perp while you are reassembling your long gun.

186 grayp  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:45:47am

Fox news reporting that over 100 cadets at a police academy in Baghdad have been poisoned.

187 Irene NYC  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:47:28am

Well, Ayaan Hishi Ali was alive and well and sitting in the front row at a talk with Clive James sponsored by the NY Public Library last night. I hope she'll continue getting enough protection to allow her to attend public functions at least somewhat freely. It's as important for us as it is for her because this is not a country where anyone speaking freely should be under a death threat.

188 NoSubmission  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:47:31am

#174 Killgore Trout
KosKids pray?
Who knew?

189 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:48:00am

#182 sandspur
I was very kind with the quote I chose.. There's more...

I'm not going to bend over and try to woo them with my "humanity" when one of their propagandists gets cancer. I'm not going to pretend I care either way about Tony Snow. He lived a vile life. He doesn't deserve cancer, but nor does he deserve one ounce of my empathy. I'll save that for the people dying in Iraq because of his lies.


There were a few people here making more or less the same point about the Edwards. Thankfully, they were in the minority here. Over there, it's the kind of thing to be celebrated.

190 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:48:24am
191 Sharmuta  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:49:36am

Lebanon rounding up jihadis?

We recommend that they go outside and hit themselves repeatedly in the head with a very big hammer. That should solve the problem.

192 theheat  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:49:54am
Hirsi Ali works at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington DC, a think-tank that has close ties with the Republican party.

Okay, there's one bright mind in that think tank. The rest need to grow ears.

193 Posted by Post  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:50:48am

#170 Gringo
#178 Tradewind

The point is to force the authorities into action now, before the “shark jumping” ensues.

194 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:51:10am
Islam is evil, as well as Linux, wake up guys!

Just to prove your point, "Linux" is "Xunil" spelled backwards. And we all know the Xunil was the open-source navigator of Farrakhan's Earth mission mother ship.

That's all that any thinking person needs to know / 'nuff said.

Only AlGore can save us!

195 TimeQuake  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:51:13am

However, This ruling just came through for D.C.

[Link: www.nraila.org...]

D.C. Circuit Court Hands Down Significant Victory for Individual Second Amendment Rights!

196 cbinflux  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:53:25am

167 song and dance

I know, you would never read Reader's Digest!

/s

197 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:53:57am

Kos Kiddies they support the troops Tony Snow not the mission
/MAJ Sarc

198 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:55:35am
199 Hucbald  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:56:39am

It should be a simple matter for the FBI to find out who the perps are, round them up, turn them over to the DOJ, have DOJ prosecute them, and then have INS strip them of their visas and/or citizenship when they are found guilty. Then, you give them parachutes and a free ride in a C-17 to the drop zone in the middle of the sand dunes from which they came.

Note that I said "should": That it's not a simple cut-and-dried matter speaks volumes.

200 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:57:42am
201 jehu  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:58:39am

O.R. 138

Totally agree with your take. Just my viewpoint is we are not facing amature burglars, but a calculated attempt to subvert this country and use our liberties as power tools to do so. I don't have the answers, but I think I know what is NOT working, and what will not work.

202 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:59:02am

British Dhimmitude watch alert:
Kidnapping could be traced back to arrests by US forces, Richard Beeston

When US forces burst into a villa and arrested five Iranian men in the northern Iraqi city of Arbil this year, they may have set in motion a chain of events that led directly to the abduction of 15 British servicemen in the northern Gulf last week.

While the British and Iranian governments argue about whether the sailors and Marines were in Iraqi or Iranian waters at the time of their capture, privately there is acknowledgement that their fate is bound closely to that of the Iranian captives.

Yup, it's Bush's fault for getting tough with the Iranians. If only we left the Iranians alone, so they could freely carbomb Iraqis & US troops, this sort of thing would never happen.

203 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:00:29am

#151 hous:

CNN (yeah, I know. It is not a reliable news source)
stated it was illegal to pack in DC with a VA weapons permit.

Despite being reported by CNN, in this case, it's correct.

It would indeed be nice if a CC permit issued in another state were valid in DC; alas, it is not. The thing is, EVERYONE here knows that, so it's amazing that Webb's aide just thought he could waltz into the frickkin' Capitol with an illegal gun.

204 easy  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:03:02am

#67 Persistor

Go read the Bill of Rights. It makes no exception for non-citizens.


I think you will find some argument on to whom those rights apply.

205 grayp  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:05:10am

#203 OR

so it's amazing that Webb's aide just thought he could waltz into the frickkin' Capitol with an illegal gun.

Did he even know the gun was in the bag? 'Cuz you're right - everyone around here knows that. Which makes me think he didn't know it was there.

206 TimeQuake  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:05:34am

O.R.

I think I mentioned before, as you leave VA (14th Street Bridge) into D.C., there are signs saying NO GUNS ALLOWED IN D.C. (only for the criminals).

207 Live4Truth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:08:58am

I'd LIKE to see my tax dollars go towards top-quality security protection for her. She represents a major voice of freedom of speech and thought, in this time of raging brainwashed psycho killers.

208 wanderer  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:15:23am

# 102 Maximus
# 130 Highrise

The American public schools from top to bottom are today firmly in the hands of gender, ethnically, and ideologically correct dim bulb administrators that have been flowing out of academia since the late 1960s. These carefully picked to suit liberals have in turn have allowed the left's militant feninazis and their clueless mignions of political correctness to take over our traditionally female dominated teacher population and the educational bureaucracy into a virtually male free environment turning the school cirriculum into little more than politically correct indoctrination program and an unrelenting hostile exercise to psychologically castrate our boys.
As a result far to many of our boys by their early teenage years have rejected the school experience hence poisoning the minds of far to many young men to the idea of true educational excellence. Such a situation while satisfying the left's can bode nothing but ill for the future of our nation.
How can I say the above? For the forty years prior to my recent retirement I was a high school teacher and witnessed the transformation of what was once our nation's superlative public education system that in the late 19th and early 20th century took in Europe's largely illiterate castoffs and and turned the children of those immigrants into the builders of the richest, most inventive, and intellectually productive nation in the history of the world into a system which promotes and rewards only those who meet the correct gender and ethincity guidlines and who tow the leftist line of the dull-witted educrats and university professor experts flush with federal educational "reform" funds that turn out young people incapable of proficiently performing the most simple of educational tasks.

209 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:15:58am

#205 grayp:

Which makes me think he didn't know it was there.

Which would mean... he's a dope. If you FORGET where you've left your loaded handgun and two loaded mags... I mean, sheesh.

210 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:18:57am

204 easy

#67 Persistor

Go read the Bill of Rights. It makes no exception for non-citizens.

I think you will find some argument on to whom those rights apply.

I'm sure you can find somebody who will argue about anything... but the to US Bill of Rights appliesall citizens, residents & visitors to the US.

211 grayp  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:37:17am

#209 OR

Which would mean... he's a dope. If you FORGET where you've left your loaded handgun and two loaded mags... I mean, sheesh.

Wait a sec. Webb is about to board a plane, realizes (whacks forehead) there's a gun he can't possibly get past security, passes the bag off to nearest staffer, nearest staffer passes it to Thompson who has no idea.

My big question: Why the fuck was it loaded? How responsible is that?

212 Confuzed  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:58:59am

#48 abolitionist Thanks, that link is awesome.

There will be no mercy shown to the purveyors of injustice, only the sword will be lifted against them. No discussions, no demonstrations, no petitions: only DEATH will separate the Truth from the Lies.

To those who think iSlam can be reasoned with, the above quote was taken off the bloodied 5-page paper stuck to Van Gogh's chest with a knife.

Again - for us Infidels, no discussions, no demonstrations, no petitions, only DEATH. Not very encouraging.

See link in #48 to access entire letter.

213 cry of defiance and not of fear  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 12:04:09pm

#126 NJDhockeyfan: Good luck to that brave Moslem lady calling for the return of 'ijtihad' (questioning of islamic theology) but she will find that all four major schools of islamic teaching rejected ijtihad by the 11th century AD. Anyhow, ijtihad actually was meant to be practised by Moslem legal scholars in very precise, narrowly defined manners. And we all know what happens when you turn lawyers loose.

#65 _remembertonyc: On the subject of the bombing of Hiroshima and its symbolic import and impact upon the Japanese, there is also NIGHT OF THE NEW MOON by Laurens van der Post. (I haven't read it). van der Post was a prisoner of the Japanese and his book contends, as do many, that the Japs surrendered based upon the interpretation which they placed upon the bombing (the sun imagery); he firmly states apparently that they would have fought a land battle to the last man. I often think, when the subject of bombings of H and Nagasaki come up, of all those lives (possibly a million) that were saved by that bombing because they didn't have to engage in a land invasion of Japan.

214 ProUSA  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 12:26:49pm

I know there is a difference, but:

Modern liberals: oppress speech they don't agree with; resort to threats and violence (eco-terroists, etc.) when their emotions get riled up; worship paganistic gods (trees, animals, Goracle, public nudity, etc.) with absolute faith and total disregard for reality; prone to believe wild conspiracy theories; and hatred of Jews.

Islam: opress speech (including cartoons) they don't agree with; threaten and kill anyone that riles them up; and worship satanic prophet and god with absolute faith and total disregard for reality; prone to believe wild conspiracy theories; and hatred of Jews.

Oh, I know the difference . . . the Muslims will have no problem killing the Liberals.

215 easy  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 12:38:04pm

#210 Kenneth

I'm certainly no expert but some investigation showed a lot of differing opinions. Just one example.

I just assumed that if people were still arguing and complaining (I found a lot of complaining) it was not fixed.

Always look froward to you posts and links by the way.

216 loggiedog  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 1:06:41pm

"tm"= Terror Mark(tm)

217 ceejaytoo  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 1:41:20pm

Islam reminds me of the Mafia-- you can never get out alive, if any of the true adherents have anything to say about it. (that was mean to compare civilived people with barbarians-- my apologies to La Cosa Nostra)

218 FrogMarch  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 3:08:20pm

Does CAIR care?

219 daughter of patriots  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 3:52:05pm

#105 dead sea squirrel

Isn't that why Charles lives under the Denver airport?

220 mattm  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 4:03:44pm

I'm sure CAIR will get right on defending her. Not.

221 EE  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 4:10:22pm

With her clear and forthright speech and writings, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an American treasure.

Her partner Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered in the Netherlands for daring to speak the truth about one of the problems in the Muslim world, the oppression of women, in the movie that Theo and Hirsi made: Submission. Ayaan Hirsi Ali should have the utmost protection. Especially after the threats to her.

Instead of cowtowing to CAIR, the FBI should be busy investigating those who may be threatening Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

222 kuchuklambat  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 4:47:53pm

It is excellent that she's being threatened -- means her publicity is stirring the pot, and now, hopefully, she and the book will get more publicity. Just stay safe, Ayaan.
Slightly OT: getting off my commuter train, see a cop with a big beautiful German shephed, in "down-stay", both watching the stream of humans (must be a special alert). Even I got a little more serious under the pooch's eye; I imagine someone with a culturally ingrained fear of dogs would hold back even more. A few of these around Hirsi Ali, I'd feel better.

223 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 5:22:33pm

I might understand her being unsafe in Europe but isn't America supposed to be a haven where no crap is taken?

224 wildcat  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 5:44:58pm

To assist Ayan... buy her book. It is a good read.

225 bordergal  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 5:49:58pm

#208 Wanderer

I will start home schooling my high school aged son next year for that very reason.

Can you give a nervous novice some advice on the best approach for teaching a teenage male?

226 countrygurl  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 6:01:21pm

85 daughter of patriots said:

Who's not threatened in the US by Islamists when speaking truth to taqiyah?
How about the regular folk who write a letter to the editor about some local Muslim encroachment? Are they not to be wary and keep watch?


You are so right about that. I wrote a letter to our paper critical of Keith Ellison & his Koran, Islamists, CAIR, etc.. I explained what we all know about CAIR being a fifth column and masguerading as a "civil liberties organization" and my article has been posted on several websites and some of the comments scared my husband half-to-death and he doesn't want me writing any more letters. I will write them anyway, but I will ask them to use a pen name. Is is so bad in American that ALREADY we are too afraid to PRINT what we think in the paper for FEAR for our personal/family safety? The answer is YES.

227 countrygurl  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 6:03:13pm

#1 BabbaZee - congrats - you just did the seemingly impossible! Got me to listen to and LIKE rap music. Ha! Great song - who is it?

228 Sabraguy  Tue, Mar 27, 2007 11:18:25pm

I'm not American, so I don't know if its possible, but isn't there some sort of medal that America could bestow on this woman?

The struggle against Islamofascism is not only a job for soldiers, torch-bearers like Ayaan Hirsi Ali are also needed.

It would be wondeful if the American people could campaign for her to receive some sort of award, to honour her courage. At the VERY LEAST, I'd like to see her given an honorary degree by one of your leading Universities.

229 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 28, 2007 1:36:39am

#227 countrygurl
LOL I felt the same way when I first heard that.

That is Stuck Mojo

and this is the CAIR Remix

They are selling the album on their own without a record company - Everyone who likes it...please buy it!


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