Yeah, given that France will be Europe's first Muslim nation.

When the music's over...

Come , let's hurry up and do absolutely nothing !

/the Spineless West

Gee is is any surprise why you have to pull Russia and Fwance damn hard to come down on Iran? They stand to lose a fortune and this is just the stuff we KNOW about. No telling how much we don't know about. damn frogs and cossacks!

Wouldn't surprise me a bit. When the Israelis/US bombs the nuke facilities, maybe they could 'stray off course' over Fwance?

Yes, The wonders of the free market. After all its about the global economy. I am a capitalist but lets try not sell the rope they might hang us with.

More Iranian bullshit.

I want to see the flowers bloom
Don't wanna go kaboom kaboom
I wanna have a lot of fun
just sitting in the sun
but nevertheless...

It's not just France, Germany has become one of Iran's leading trading partners and essentially keeps their economy afloat. The EU knows it can never challenge the U.S. militarily. Therefore, it long ago decided the way to counteract American influence is to fund and conduct business with America's enemies. Just one more reason institutions like the U.N. should be declared null and void by the U.S.

what's really happening in the entire Middle East is that Europe and Russia are competing for influence, just as they have for centuries.

The only reason Turkey's hegemony over the area lasted as long as it did was because Russia, France, England and Germany couldn't agree among themselves how to split it up

The collapse of Turkey (the sick man of Europe) created the turmoil in the region which has lasted to this day

The US is the newcomer. We didn't express an interest after WWI or WWII, and that is why the Russians and Europeans are so against our presence there now

but it goes back to them not being able or willing to sit down and split the region between themselves, which they could have done back when

It would be sad if a US training mission accidentally leveled downtown tehran and a bunch of military/nuke sites.
/sarc

WESTERN GOVERNMENTS have been accused of “stunning hypocrisy” after it was revealed that Iran has a 10% stake in the world’s largest uranium enrichment plant in France.

First of all, why are all western govenments getting tarred here? Second, is there ANY country France will not do business with?

And somehow it's the US that influenced by $ and oil.

The Eurocorruption that the framers warned us about still exists.

'I am proud to say that right from today our country has entered the group of countries that produce nuclear fuel industrially,' Ahmadinejad said today at the Natanz uranium- enrichment site.'

. Iranian reporters noted that a deathly green glow appeared to radiate from the head of President Ahmadahmjusfreakinmad as he spoke.

These are the fools that the Democrats believe are "nuanced".

8 BabbaZee

Thank you.

Militant Greetings, Sharmuta!

Let's roll.

Are the Russians going to pull the plug on them?

Psychopath vs. Psychopath

Imagine how the left would react if we had our own National Nuclear Day.

ask yourselves this:

if you were the Fwench, why should you sit by and watch Russia get all the jobs and money for helping Iran? Why not get some of your people down there?

Hey, if that crack ho ain't buying her nickel bag from me, she'll be buying it from my competition

and I hear she got an inheritance she's burning through, so I better hustle over and sell her some o' my stuff, befo' she kills her dam se'f an' I don't get nothin'

And now we get our bets down...on precisely when the U.S. will strike.

Should make for a good office pool!

That's France. The other two members of the Big (Girlish) Three European countries - Germany and Britain - are similarly financially invested in Iran's prosperity:

Merkel's Germany is Iran's largest trading partner in Europe.

Kuntzel quotes Michael Tockuss, the former president of the German-Iranian Chamber of Commerce in Teheran, explaining, "Some two-thirds of Iranian industry relies on German engineering products. The Iranians are certainly dependent on German spare parts and suppliers."

Germany's booming trade with Iran would have gone bust long ago had it not been for the largesse of the German government. The German government, which supposedly opposes Teheran's nuclear weapons program, provides export guarantees for 65% of German investments in Iran.

When seen in the context of her government's subsidization of the Iranian economy, Merkel's anti-Iranian and anti-jihad statements are exposed as farce. Iran, Syria, Hizbullah and the Palestinians have no reason to be concerned. Their principal trading partner in Europe will not abandon them.

...

In his paper, Kuntzel notes that while British trade with the mullahs is only one-fifth of Germany's, it is nonetheless significant. Since 2003, when Iran's nuclear program was first exposed, British trade with Iran has nearly tripled. And as is the case with Germany, the British government also backs the trade with export credits.

Earlier this year, the official UK Trade and Investment Department was promoting trade with Iran. Its Web site gushed, "Iran is one of the most exciting countries in the region for business development... The main opportunity for UK business is in providing capital and equipment to Iran's priority sectors: oil, gas and petrochemicals, mining [and] power."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"Mock-mood" has gotta be the most dangerous "short-person" complex since Napoleon.

Why can't someone just SHOOT the little ***?

Maybe as a way of saying "thank you", the Iranians will point their missiles at Rome instead of Paris.

More and more it looks like the US needs to keep a handy list of nuclear weapons facilities worldwide so that when and if the Islamofascists seize control of a country which posses nuclear weapons we can bomb them before they can used.

I sent you this story a while back Charles. Seems the head of Totalfinaelf is under investigation by French authorities. This is the same guy involved in Food for oil

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Total boss placed under formal investigation Thu Mar 22, 5:25 PM ET

PARIS (AFP) - The boss of French oil group Total was placed under formal investigation on Thursday as part of a corruption probe into a gas deal signed by the company in Iran.

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Chief Executive Christophe de Margerie has been held for questioning by a judge from France's financial police since Wednesday.

In a statement the company said that he had been placed "under formal investigation in proceedings related to the development of the South Pars project in Iran."

A legal source said the judge had put Margerie under investigation for suspected "corruption of foreign public agents and misuse of corporate assets".

He has been conditionally released, but the source was unable to say what the conditions were.

Being placed under judicial investigation is one step short of being charged with a crime in the French legal system. It does not necessarily mean that 55-year-old Margerie is heading for trial.

A case can be dropped if a judge is unable to sustain his accusations against an individual.

In the statement Total expressed "its full support for its employees and confirms that the agreements for the development of the South Pars project were entered into in compliance with applicable law".

It also said that the company was "confident" that the "investigation will establish the absence of any illegal activities and reaffirms that Total adheres to a strict code of conduct regardless of the difficulties linked to its activities and the environments in which it operates".

The French oil company is suspected of paying top Iranian officials nearly 100 million Swiss francs (60 million euros, 80 million dollars) through two Swiss bank accounts to win a contract in 1997.

Margerie was detained by French police on Wednesday before being transferred to a serious financial crime unit a day later, judicial officials told AFP.

He was interviewed during his time in custody about a contract that Total secured with the Iranian oil company NIOC for an offshore gasfield known as South Pars, the source said.

The French judge is partly relying on testimony given by an employee of Norwegian oil company Statoil who revealed the existence of a corruption system in Iran during an investigation in Norway.

According to sources, money was paid to Iranian officials between 1996 and 2003 when Margerie was Total's Middle East director.

The oil group's chief executive is no stranger to controversy.

Last year he was charged with complicity with fraud and corruption by the same judge as part of an investigation into a French link to the "oil-for-food" scandal in Iraq.

Companies were said to have paid money to get oil deals from Iraq while it was under UN sanctions during the Saddam Hussein years.

Several other Total executives and former executives, including Rambaud, have also been charged as part of the "oil-for-food" scandal.

Known in the company as "Big Moustache," Margerie was promoted to managing director of Total in February in succession to Thierry Desmarest who had overseen huge expansion of the group and is president of the supervisory board.

#20 friarstale

c'mon, what's with the Amos and Andy schtick?

You're not doing Charles or anyone else any favors here.

Keep it on the level, please.

Western Madness.

But this shows that the Nuclear Genie is out of the lamp, out out out & not to go back.

All groups of people must grow up, including the islamics.

Temporarily I suppose the more insane of the mullahs & their industrial plants are a legitimate target.

But these weapons are latent in the structure of the universe & as such put there by God as a test for all humans; will our prowess be equaled by our morality? If not, we are not wanted.

(classify this comment, mona-spock)

#21 Mike -

And now we get our bets down...on precisely when the U.S. will strike.

Should make for a good office pool!

My money is on Israel taking out the facilities before the US does.

#12 Sharmuta

First of all, why are all western govenments getting tarred here?

From the article:

Many governments and corporations are turning a blind eye to all this, and the French, Chinese, N Koreans, and above all the Russians and Germans are the worst. US corporations acting via proxies are there as well.

Presumably the Chinese and N Koreans aren't being hypocritical because they never pretended to be on the right side to begin with.

“The world is a dangerous place not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing,” said Albert Einstein. It is incumbent upon every Muslim to arise and counter Islamism. In this courageous effort, the non-Islamist Muslims can count on the unflagging support of free people.

-Amil Imani

This is from one of Imani's blog postings on the Free Iran Project web site. Pretty interesting stuff. Whether or not it is representative of the numeric majority of Iranians is open to question, I suppose.

France has long been a haven for Islamic extremists from Iran and other terrorist satellites.

IIRC, they tried 'valiantly' to re-animate Arafat (and his money flow to their banks) as he died of AIDS.

whores whores whores, european whores.

Prophecy:

Rudy will be prez.

The MSM will create a dichotomy between DinnerJacket and Rudy.

One was the tough mayor of Tehran.

One was the tough mayor of New York.

Both rose to world prominence after 9/11 (no mention of what actually happened on 9/11).

Rudy pro-Israel.

DinnerJacket pro-Pali.

Etc etc.

21 Mike McDaniel

And now we get our bets down...on precisely when the U.S. will strike

I'll put my bet on never...sad to say.

#35 blue_like_jazz

what's wrong with European whores? Heck, back in the early '80's it was a remarkable bargain for a G.I. stationed in Germany. The Dollar to Mark conversion rate was 2.87 to the dollar.

/now back to your regularly scheduled station...

28 Bwheat
methinks you're getting too sensitive
report me if you wish

#10 friarstale:

Of course, one of the main reasons that the US has taken to be actively involved in the region is because the Europeans and Russians/Soviets did such a wonderful job carving up the region in the first place. Never mind setting borders along arbitrary lines and ignoring historical claims for folks like the Kurds, they're now engaged in trying to offset US hegemony by currying favor with terror-spawning regimes like Syria, Iran, and Iraq.

The US isn't above this either, as it has a far too cozy relationship with Egypt and Saudi Arabia, but the stunning hypocrisy of France and the Eurocrats is a notch above.

What else is interesting is that even with this news, there's no way to really know what's going on with Iran's nuclear program. The experts have been wrong before, and it looks like they're overoptimistic in thinking that technological hurdles will keep Iran from having the tech means to make nuclear weapons sooner rather than later.

If they're getting technical experience from their contact with France or Russia, all bets are off.

More here.

39 friarstale

Naw, not my place to be reporting anyone, glass houses and all. It's just this, I understand your point and agree with what you're saying. You're just provided idiots like that stalker over at LGF Watch little snippets to provide thousands of little papercuts to Charles and LGF.

That's not productive.

Just give it a thought.

I still don't think any strike is emminent on Iran simply because they have not demonstrated an actual weapon and the first Iranian hostage taker, er radical student, is playing high stakes poker with the west. He keeps probing, like scouts on a physical battlefield, and so far he has been correct.
To be brutally honest what it is going to take from the west to get these Islamofascists attention is something totally out of left field like maybe the US really saying and doing the no oil from the Middle East in spite of all of the gloom and doom scenarios. Nobody in the ME takes anything we say seriously anymore. Sure we can launch a cruise missle and take out some Bedouin camels in a tent but nothing meaningful or long lasting. Any action is only good to the next election cycle.
If somebody could come up some really off the wall, unexpected action, maybe not related to anything going on in the world today, to get the Islamics attention I say go for it. It can't hurt and everything we have tried up to this point hasn't gotten us much progress.
/Now you know why I don't work for the State dept.

One way or the other, Iran's nuclear program is going to provide the country with an abundance of light.

Maybe we should go for some MFD

Mutual Frog Destruction

When iran nukes israel respond by hitting Paris.

Say they are all white male "French youth" as evidence you are sensitive.

41 lawhawk
agreed on all counts
and it goes back to the collapse of Turkey and the end of the Caliphate

I didn't know a lot about the history, but recently listened to a books on tape History of the Middle East
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I got about halfway through and stopped for 2 reasons
1) the writer is an Islamic apologist, and he was writing it almost as a history of post-Mohammed Islam
2) a damaged tape, so I turned it back in to the library

but it was very interesting
I was listening to an older edition, written around the time of Gulf War 1

#40 taxfreekiller 4/09/2007 10:14:17 am PDTliberal loons of America", ie, the Sandia Lab "cd's" gone missing, and the one of China who Clinton allow to make off with the nuke info prior, and now we send one of those who allowed it to happen Bill Richardson to N. Korea, to do more talking, want to bet he is just like Sandy Burger, he has "the newest nuke cd's in his pants cuffs" this very moment..

Stupifying that this level of treason just wheels right along, isn't it? Socialist Doctrine of Multipolarity Parity.

42 BWheat
yeah, I hear you
I usually don't do much of that, and even as I wrote it I didn't think it was all that funny

I could have used another analogy

all boils down to petro-dollars, and who will get them in the international marketplace

I seriously doubt a neutered "West," will do anything about Iran getting a nuke. Bush is just waiting for retirement, E.U. will do nothing but make money selling them the rope for the hanging. Israel is directly threatened, and they may or may not take action. Remember Israel is moonbat infested also.

There are two possible scenarios for the next 40 years or so. The Islamics make a fatal mistake and attack us again in a big way, making us react and destroy them.

More possible is the slow, drip, drip, drip of dhimmitude, aided and abetted by our own Left.

Possible exceptions are a spiritual awakening in the West, or invasion by benevolent aliens.

Other than that, I think we are dreaming that any of the current leadership in the West will actually address any of the coming, and growing humiliations the West has, and will endure. After all this has been going on since the 70's.

If you are an American? I would seek to move from the big cities, and own a few guns. Forget about a government protecting you. How many Americans are now killed each year by illegal immigrants? Is America anything now, that was envisioned by the founders? Be honest.

A natural function is happening here, and it is primarily the working out of spiritual, or moral principles on a grand scale. To those that despise their freedom...it will be taken from them. And even though many Americans still love their freedom...the majority do not, if they did love their freedom they would not embrace the MSM or any Leftist teaching.

#48 friarstale

You're absolutely correct. It's the EU getting their money wheel greased up along with our pal's the russian's. The French and Russian's both are still furious we turned off the Sadam money machine.

Instead of looking for payola, maybe they ought to try capitalism. It pays better.

France, Germany and Russia: the Axis of Hypocrites!

Ahhh... the Fwench. They'll always be there when they need us.

#9 frankp_63:

The EU knows it can never challenge the U.S. militarily. Therefore, it long ago decided the way to counteract American influence is to fund and conduct business with America's enemies.

Which is kind of cute, as we've basically been footing their defence bills for the last 60 years (what with their obvious enjoyment of declaring war on each other and the stakes now being higher with a nuclear USSR with its own ambitions off to the east). Yeh, socialism sure is viable. If you don't have to pay for your own military.

Iran’s madman president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced today that Iran’s production of nuclear fuel has reached industrial capacity.

This picture shows exactly what he thinks of world opinion.

49 jehu

"A natural function is happening here, and it is primarily the working out of spiritual, or moral principles on a grand scale."

No kidding.

If we were spiritually strong here in the West, the islamic threat would be minor, very minor.

#26 Just_A_Grunt:

More and more it looks like the US needs to keep a handy list of nuclear weapons facilities worldwide so that when and if the Islamofascists seize control of a country which posses nuclear weapons we can bomb them before they can used.

This is a smart thing to do if our enemies are planning on some day declaring an Islamic Democratic Free and Happy Republic of Froggistan. What I fear is that they are going to continue encroaching, little by little. At what point do we bomb Paris? Today? In ten years? Twenty? "The Froggistani government knows nothing of this heinous attack, even though all the terrori^Wmilitants came from France. We'll help you look for the real culprits, though." Replace frog with Saudi and you've got the 9/11 thing.

This is the principle of boiling the frog (appropriate, speaking of France), which one of their Nazi mentors (sorry, can't remember which) described. Works best against opponents with short attention spans. Which is a well-known shortcoming of our um... what was I talking about again?

I talked to a WWII vet (yeah, he's like 86 years old) a couple weeks ago. According to him, if you're a WWII vet and you visit Normany, you are treated as royalty. Some French haven't forgotten that US blood was spilled to free them.

Unfortunately, most of France has forgotten that bit of history, which will probably be repeated in my children's life time.

#30 Ojoe:

But these weapons are latent in the structure of the universe & as such put there by God as a test for all humans; will our prowess be equaled by our morality? If not, we are not wanted.

Hey, I'm not gonna fire a nuke at you. I suspect that you aren't gonna fire a nuke at me. The USSR, for all its negative aspects (and there were plenty) knew that if it nuked us, the next move would be that we nuked them, and did everything short of actually locking horns with the US directly until finally collapsing under its own weight. This is because you, I, and even the USSR are and were reasonable people.

But if some hairy goat-loving nut job (Dinnerjacket...) thinks that setting off World War III is going to bring things back to the good old days of the 7th c., that is his moral failure! He wants his 72 raisins, I'm all in favor, but he can leave me the hell out of it!

Ahh the wonderful french yet again.

I must admit the statespeople keep a good straight poker face on when they answer that France is our ally.

There was a documentary on the Travel Channel over the weekend about the various visions of The Virgin Mary that have appeared in France over the years & the host wondered why France has had more Marian visions than any other country. Is it borderline blasphemous to think "because they need Divine Intervention more than any other country?"

Mark Steyn has a brilliant op-ed piece in today's WaTimes. Although directed at the British, it could easily be applied to the "Ostrich Syndrome" of U.S. citizens as well, who value American Idol more than their own liberties.

Watching Tottenham Hotspur fans taking on the Spanish constabulary at a European soccer match the other night, I found myself idly speculating what might have happened had those Iranian kidnappers made the mistake of seizing 15 hardboiled football yobs who hadn't got the Blair memo about not escalating.
Instead the mullahs were fortunate enough to take hostage 15 Royal Navy sailors and Royal Marines. Which were which was hard to say upon their release. The Queen's Navee had been demobbed. The token gal was dressed as an Islamic woman and the 14 men had been kitted out in Ahmadinejad leisurewear, not just a ghastly fashion faux pas but a breach of the increasingly one-way Geneva Conventions. But they smiled and they waved. Wave, Britannia, Britannia, waive the rules...

Tony Blair was at pains to point out that the hostages were released "without any deal, without any negotiation, without any side agreement of any nature." But he is missing (or artfully sidestepping) the point: Tehran didn't want a deal. It wanted the humbling of the Great Satan's principal ally. And it got it. Very easily. And it paid no price for it. And it has tested in useful ways the empty pretensions of the United Nations, the European Union and also NATO, whose second-largest fleet is now a laughingstock in a part of the world where it helps to be taken seriously...

Power is only as great as the perception of power. The Iranians understand they can't beat America or Britain in tank battles or air strikes, so they choose other battlefields on which to hit them. That's why the behavior of the captives gives great cause for concern: There's no point training guys to be tough fighting men of the Royal Marines when you're in a bloody little scrap in Sierra Leone (as they were a couple of years ago) if you allow them to crumple on TV in front of the entire world...
/blockquote>

France: harmless as an enemy, treacherous as a friend.

wasn't there a Fwenchman kidnapped recently?

/hows that gonna work out for the infidels
terrorist enablers

did their aircraft carrrier back into Gulf, while vacating some other situation?

#62 daledog

That says it all.

60 BDVM

No, it is because there are good, very spiritual people in France. And France built Cathedrals. And the French are good at starting religious orders. Cistertians for instance.

& All countries could use the help of God.

#35 blue jazz
whores whores whores, european whores.

I hate to see people insult whores by comparison with european governments.

Whores give an honest product at an honest price.

Ah, yes, Fwance.

The Nuclear Whores of the Caliphate.

(...and you can quote me...)

JAFLW

I think it is way past time to re-think our relationships with some members of Europe. Especially France! I don't mean just rename French fries to freedom fries either. We may have to trade our BMWs for Buicks. Peugeots for Pontiacs. We need to buy USA and quit rewarding these unbelievably hypocritical countries that just spit in our face and do business with our enemies.

The USA allowing Nigeria to purchase weapons from North Korea does not help either. At some point we are going to have to deal with reality. Europe will not do the right thing. We have to.

The UN has got to go. UN delenda est! Now!

France, and Chirac personally, sold the technology to Saddam's Iraq. Like Iran, they too claimed it was only for energy. Yet even the French didn't seem to take that line seriously, officially naming the plant Osirak, after the Egyptian God of the Death, Osiris.

Imagine the scene in the not too distant future where the camels and goats are trampling the vintage while the call to prayer is heard from the speakers atop the Eiffel tower. France has always wanted to be an Islamic power ever since the Napoleonic era and now they'll succeed, but not in the way they had it planned.

Then those two great women, Ségolène and Nancy can meet in full burka for mint tea at a Parisean café and discuss the finer aspects of Shari'a law.

One last thought. Europe, by in large, has no honor, no responsibility, no identity and no pride in itself. The only thing that matters to most of the European governments is trade and money. They will work with the devil himself if it meets their trade criteria. If the USA becomes more self sufficient and reliant, this will really hurt the French and their ilk where it really hurts. All the diplomatic BS in the world will not matter but money does.

We cannot count on our European “allies” to go to bat for us. As usual, we will have to bail out Europe when the chips are down. However, I am sick of the ungrateful, snobby and pontificating Europeans that do nothing but look down their noses at us until they have someone’s bayonet at their throat. Europe is not our friend and we need to get that through our big, thick heads. I think Palmerston said it best with “Countries do not have friends, they have interests.” We can no longer even count on England. They have lost the will to even defend themselves. I have spent some time on some UK blogs lately and it is very disconcerting to see how anti-US and anti-Semitic they have become.

At the end of day, the USA either gets its act (political and economic) together and takes care of US interests first or we become compromised and decadent just like Europe.

So, have we identified the whore, the beast, and the false prophet (the last by far the easiest to identify)?

Israel is not going to wait 'til one day before the bomb is complete: they will consider how much radioactive contamination would be produced by an airstrike. Every day those centerfuges spin, a little more potential contamination is produced...

Y'know, the UF₆ centrifuges that I'm familiar with have rotors that spin at 25-40 thousand RPM. Ya drop a fairly large bomb next to 'em, and the shock wave really mucks up the centrifuge without doing near as much damage as actually hitting the facility, and doesn't release as much radioactive gas. Especially if the facility is deep underground. And don't think for a minute that we don't have a burrowing nuke capable of doing the job, okay?

Just sayin'.

JAFLW

/"One earthquake, magnitude 5.0 (MMI), comin' right up!"

IRAN + NUKE = WW3