There was a massacre on a college campus last week?

hahahahahahahahaha

If it had been a muslim..he would have been skerrd

uh-huh

What would have happened if he had been Arab or Muslim? The media would have imposed a blackout after that announcement, CAIR would have two hour long press conferences to reassure people that it had nothing to do with Islam and then folks would have found a way to blame someone else.

When they realized it was a South Korean, they kept silent. What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim? If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down.

Hmmm, NBC is careful not to let us see images of the dozens, maybe hundreds, who jumped to their deaths from the WTC, rather than burn to death, but will cheerfully give Cho what he wants, a nationwide audience for his insane ramblings.

I guess that is because NBC is so anti-Islam. Wait, that doesn't amke any sense...

Sounds like a Democrat. The Party Without Irony.

The thing I detest most is unjustified bloodshed.

Yea, but if it's "justified" it's just A-OK. And in his definition of justified, there's a whole lotta bloodshed going on.

"...violence is our philosophy."
idiot

The irony is so thick on this one I'll need a glass of milk to wash it all down. The sheik doesn't like the uselessness of Cho's violence. It could have been so much more worth while... If Cho had uttered a single Allah Akbar during his spree it would have all made sense. Cho would have become a martyr and the sheik would have been singing his praises.

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme.

I guess he hasn't taken a look a the Hezzie or Hamas flags recently.

Yeah, well here's the bias of the U.S. media working in conjunction with the fascists...

Two boys in Boston were playing baseball when one of them was attacked by a vicious Rottweiler. The dog had already locked his jaws on the Boy's' legs.

Thinking quickly, the other boy ripped a board off of a nearby fence, wedged it into the dog's collar and twisted it, breaking the dog's neck.

A newspaper reporter from the Boston Herald witnessed the incident and rushed over to interview the boy. The reporter began entering data into his laptop, beginning with the headline, "Brave Boston Red Sox Fan Saves Friend From Jaws Of Vicious Animal."

"But I'm not a Boston Red Sox fan," the little hero interjected.

"Sorry" replied the reporter. "But since we're in Boston, I just assumed you were."

Hitting the delete key, the reporter began again, "John Kerry Fan Rescues Friend From Horrific Dog Attack."

"But I'm not a John Kerry fan either," the boy protested.

The reporter replied, "I assumed everybody in this state was either for The Red Sox, John Kerry, or Ted Kennedy. What team or person do you Like?''

"Well, I'm a Texas Ranger fan, and I really like President Bush," the Boy answered.

Hitting the delete key, the reporter began yet again: "Arrogant Little Republican Bastard Kills Beloved Family Pet."

I don't recall any significant press coverage more than a day after the fact of the Muslim who shot up the El Al counter at LAX to celebrate the 4th of July, the Muslim that targetted woman at a Seattle Jewish center, or the Muslim who tried to run down Carolina college kids in an SUV.

The press is glad Cho wasn't Muslim, but they are disappointed he wasn't an Anglo who kept a Bible in his dorm room.

Hello Kettle, my name is Pot... WOW, you sure are BLACK!

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme

Lol, he knows how I keep control in my classroom. :)
Dangit!

St. Pancake House of Machine gun rat-a-tat-tat keeps the little darl'ins attentive, and on task at all times.

This is what is called a double standard. A double standard, a triple standard, or even more... That’s America for you.

I think he's advocating bombing South Korea. This guy has jumping beans for brains.

14 Golem Akbar
Would the bombing commence after the third, or fourth standard had been reached?

Curiously enough, he quotes the following: "An armed student killed 33 fellow students. What is this?"

He must have been reading all those headlines that read 33 dead at Virginia Tech, without the distinction that it was one person, Seung Hui Cho who murdered 32 students and professors on the campus.

From his statements, I learn that he's an avid reader of AP. /sarc

Further, this mad mullah must be living in bizarro world considering that we get daily reports of how Muslims slaughter dozens upon dozens of fellow Muslims in Iraq, but the blame never seems to fall on those most responsible - Islamists like this mad mullah. Gotta be a whole lot easier pointing the finger elsewhere.

Your philosophy uses fuel-laden jetliners to kill thousands.

Of course, to your twisted mind, that was justified so you do not detest it.

Low spot in hell for you, sucker.

I said that I wish I knew who the killer was. My heart was filled with fear, but I realized that they were not saying anything. They knew who it was right from the start. When they realized it was a South Korean, they kept silent. What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim?

They kept silent? Is that why they reported it when they learned it? What would have happened if he was arab or muslim? They actually would have kept silent!

um, let me double bag my hands and put on a welding helmet - maybe then I'll bring up the movie of the twelve year-old beheading a man.

I think he was a Quaker, but I'll have to research what "Allot Ackbart" means.

POS.

Our friend Qatar is home to CENTCOM and has a Jewish national security advisor. A land of many hypocrisies.

It's only unjustified violence he dislikes. If it had been an Arab Muslim, shouting allahu akbar as he killed the infidels, it would have been justified violence... justified by him and his evil cult.

If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down. There would have been commotion and turmoil, and all hell would have broken loose.

Like happens when Danes draw cartoons?

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What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim? If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down.

Yes, you know what ?, you should remember that.
And keep your lovely terrorists in your lovely countries.

Double standard ? Not at all, simply war against the islamic invasion of the world.

If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened?

We only get mad when you kill 3,000 of us. Even then, we only take over a couple of semi-related countries and leave the heads on the snake so they can cook up an even nastier venom.

i seethed. Why did he not "hear" me?

This is what is called a double standard. A double standard, a triple standard, or even more...

"That word you keep using? I do not think it means what you think it means."

-Inigo Montoya

Even in high schools and junior high schools, we see youth who kill their fellow students.

Really, well, in Islamic societies we see adults killing teachers and children. Don't we.

But, the difference is, we know why Islamists do it, and why they wish death upon pretty much everybody.

Weekly Jihad Report
(4/14 - 4/20)
Jihad Attacks:
77
Dead Bodies:
713
Critically Injured:
920

No comment.

The evil leading the blind.

As I stated on the last thread, these cretins would like nothing more than to see our leftist politicos take the teeth out of the 2nd Amendment. A potential dhimmi unarmed, is a compliant convert.

21 cookielady

It's only unjustified violence he dislikes. If it had been an Arab Muslim, shouting allahu akbar as he killed the infidels, it would have been justified violence... justified by him and his evil cult.

You got it. And to get back to his question, "what if he had been muslim?" Well- we'd be hearing a much different khutbah (sermon) from this imam. Why, Cho would be a martyr!

What is this? It is the philosophy of violence, which was instilled in these people.

Projection, it's a way of life for these f#cks.

There is no logic in Islam.

See Muslims don't get comedy, that's why they don't have a sense of humor. Where is his wacky sidekick? Where is the Jerry Lewis to his Dean Martin? Where is the Costello to his Abbott?

The jokes just don't fly if you only havea straight man on stage! Come on these guys are so lame!

So, is he going to advise the king to prevent thousands of Saudis from attending US universities this coming school year ?

This guy is off his meds.

Sorry, O.T.

Sean Penn's rant to President George W. Bush:

#30 cartman

I will not be disarmed, and I sure as hell will never convert to that blood cult known as islam.

I am so unbelievably sick of these guys. How do our "leaders" sleep at night, knowing that we happily buy their oil and dump bucketloads of cash into this Wasteland of Ignorance that is Islamic "scholasticism"?

I said that I wish I knew who the killer was. My heart was filled with fear, but I realized that they were not saying anything. They knew who it was right from the start. When they realized it was a South Korean, they kept silent. What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim? If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down.

OMGZIONISTCONSPRACY?

If it had been a Muslim, my bearded friend, there would be precious little need to search our souls asking "why" it happened. And you are incorrect about the "silence"; if he had been Muslim, the Silence would have descended on the case, and the killer's name would have been unreleased for a week while police "investigated". His "manifestos" and detailed accounts of his demeanor, motivation, shopping habits, and behavior in class wouldn't see the light of day, just like the Utah mall shooter.

While we're at it, Mr. Preacher Man, where do you think he got the idea for a "martyr video" in the first place? Do we want to discuss the influence your co-religionists had on our shooter's mentality and methodology?

#37 sngnsgt

The short version:

"I'M SO WASTED!"

Just remember, that little speech wasn't made for us or to us, rather it was made to those who want to kill us and maybe need just a little motivation to move in that direction. Just like Harry Reids and Nancy Pelosis' words and actions aren't for us but rather for the enemy.

"The world would have turned upside-down. There would have been commotion and turmoil, and all hell would have broken loose"

What a coincidence! why thats the same thing the RoP did when a Danish cartoonist drew a couple pictures you disagreed with!

These morons need to rethink their gameplan. Nobody in the west wants to listen to some Jihadist in some boring white room in a Kaffiyeh. They should start dressing like lawyers or doctors or better yet, do what Hillary would do and use a bit of southern twang.

This is Arab/Muslim culture at its ugliest:

Their leaders tell baldfaced lies, and their followers lap it up.

The listeners know that it's not true, but they don't care, because being correct politically is more important than being correct factually.

This goes on inside the U.S., as well. I've seen it firsthand. That's how Muslim leaders talk to Muslim students on college campuses.

He wasn't an Arab, he wasn't a Muslim, but he was one of their useful idiots: a skinhead neo-Nazi wannabe.

"...it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme."

This from the people that have made the AK47 a religious icon?.

You keep on smokin' dat skunk mate. At the very least it may leave us with some sort of explanation for the delusions.

mike 35,

Good one. Our universities are just not safe for Saudi students.

Damn! I didn't know cockroaches could squawk like that.

May the bird of paradise fly up your enormous nose.

they accepted it somewhat quietly

Aside from 24-7 media saturation, things were pretty quiet.

Moron.

Cho is actually already considered a martyr in the arab world. They even gave him a name. Abu Musab al-Virgini. I shit you not.

Anyhow, until South Koreans start to displace muslims as being responsible for 95% of mass murderers, up from their current 1/100th of 1 percent, I do not see that we are guilty of double standards, triple standards, or even quintuple standards!

Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, being from the world capitol of Uncovered Meat Spankers and Suicidal Mass Murderers, has nothing to teach me.

That glow around him? Is that the glow Imadingdong had around him at the UN?

Oh man, two cant share that light as there can only be one.

Too bad that light isnt the glow from a nice 2,000 lbs bomb going off just behind him.

Now that id pay to see.

Enjoy youre ride to hell Imam. First class tickets with a front row seat. You bastard.

What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim? ...The world would have turned upside-down.

Yes, I remember the non-stop infidel riots against Islam, the terrible backlash, in the aftermath of the SUV jihadis...or the El Al counter attack...or the Seattle community center attack...or the DC sniper attacks...or the Montreal École Polytechnique...

Just a Grunt

Exactly! This is amazing behind-closed-doors kind of stuff for which we should be grateful to hear like we do.

When it's MEMRI, it's got to be good.

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness...

My wife's a middle-school teacher and most kids today are really f'd up.
They're having sex at younger and younger ages, the boys are hyper-aggressive, the girls are practically naked and all they seem to care about is clothes, gadgets and celebrities.

Sheik Yousef Al-Qaradhawi: The thing I detest most is unjustified bloodshed. I even felt great pain at what happened in America.

I think the sheik is full of shit. what shitty sheik. sheesh!

#1 the epitome of an ironic picture :)

Saruman lives!

#54 Mofo

Hmmm...and your wife notices it, and is being the turning influence, right? :)

(My son's a high school teacher...and he is being that.... :)

Dirk,

With all due respect, STFU & FOAD, you moby plant!

He is one ignorant jackass. This from the bloodest people that ever trod the face of the earth.

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme

This, on the other hand, does not sound like the left.

#49 Maine's Michael

Anyhow, until South Koreans start to displace muslims as being responsible for 95% of mass murderers,

Bingo!

An armed student killed 33 fellow students. What is this? This is the philosophy of violence,...

I would be curious to hear Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi's opinion on the hundreds of Sunni terrorist bombings in Iraq which have killed thousands of Shia Muslims... "philosophy of violence" or just good ol' jihad?

silhouette,

Yes, I remember the non-stop infidel riots against Islam, the terrible backlash, in the aftermath of the SUV jihadis...or the El Al counter attack...or the Seattle community center attack...or the DC sniper attacks...or the Montreal École Polytechnique...

Mere moments after Cho was ID'd last week, we heard from some Asian journalist group fearing a backlash. I've yet to hear of a single account of a Korean or Asian of any type being attacked as part of a "backlash" since last Monday.

Shows you how intolerant we are.

An armed student killed 33 fellow students. What is this? This is the philosophy of violence, the outcome of violent films, the outcome of the violence used by America.

Yes, Sheik, and it is sooo peaceful in Muslim Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc., etc., etc...

37,

A response to Sean Penn.

OK, I think if he had left it that this was contributed to by America's non stop bombardment of violent imagery i.e.- movies, video games, rap music, even TV shows (which he alluded to in his opening sentences), reasonable people could take this as a debatable point.

In addition to that he stated 'no comprehensible reason' for this atrocity and again it's a statement a good number of people could agree with.

And his last statement, 'This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence...' is again a starting point for debate.

I don't know about this guy. He has some valid points but then reaches conclusions that say if it was Musliim all hell would break loose. Perhaps he has not read about CAIR. But my fellow lizards, I think his observations do have some validity myself. (lest you think I am a troll, read my past comments and you will see I am not)

ot
anyone know of a way i can rip or copy memri vids so i can make some dvd's that my friends can pass out to liberal or anti-war relatives and friends

LGF gets a hat-tip over at NRO's The Corner.

#49 Maine,

Abu Musab al-Virgini? HAW HAW HAW! Am I the only one who thinks that name is funny as hell? 'Slums are only funny when you can laugh at them.

A redneck martyr!

Dallas forecast sounding looks impressive, as far as softball hail and a violent tornado or two goes.

Well, not softball hail, now that I look closer, no better than tennis ball, at best. But, sufficient precipitable water in that forecast sounding for flooding rains.

Murtaad,

Oh yeah? Well f_ _ k o_ _ you stupid south Philly scumbag!

#66 kingronjo
The statements may have a "starting point for debate", as you put it but not coming from him. In his world there is no debate other then which is the preferred method of killing the non believer.

Did someone just accuse Dirk Diggler of being a Moby plant?

*smacks Dirk with a white glove*

I, too, have been rather surprised about the total media blackout regarding that incident in Blacksburg last week.

Okay, the Sheihk is a moron, but he's no stupider than the Dean of Student Affairs at Yale University. (She of the "plastic swords only" policy)

#66 kingronjo

That's is why such carefully constructed pieces such as Charles posted here, are so destructive in the general un-measuring populace: the tiny, millionth-of-a-percent of truth to any given phrase, makes it so difficult to ferret out the glaring lie that suffuses the rest of the statement.

Ed,

All in good fun.

I think they are joking back and forth Ed.
BTW what happened to OKC being wiped off the map tomorrow?

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood.

I'll take the vacuous nullity of permissiveness and materialism over the "moral values" of Islam anyday.

#74 Murqtaad--

*smacks Dirk with a white glove*

That'll only encourage him.

Yeah but at other universities they have dean getting their picture taken with students dressed up as terrorists wearing bomb vests.
PA wasn't it?

Good thing Islamic societies are so peaceable. We hardly ever hear about attacks on innocent civilians there. Show us the way, o sheik.

Did someone just accuse Dirk Diggler of being a Moby plant?

Murqtaad's just bustin' my chops.

72 just a grunt

agreed, this guy doesnt want to engage with Christians Jews, Hindus, pagans, etc. However, his points are still valid in the same way a broken wristwatch is right twice a day.

And think about who he is really scolding- the progressives in the West who believe in the 'anything goes' mindset. He would stone them first, and then try to pry my carbine out of my cold, dead fingers.

OR,

I just want my Pirates video back.

How long does it take to burn a pr0n?

The sheik is looking for the wrong distinctions. The issue isn't which culture or whcih religion or which video game causes otherwise normal people to become killers. The much simpler and more useful question is what are psychotic losers attracted to? A quick review of recent bloodshed suggests that they are attracted to twisted fantasies; revenge fantasies, supremacist fantasies, martyrdom fantasies, "God-likes-me-more-than-you-fantasies," and so on.

Let's be frank with ourselves here. There is a lot in the world, and in western culture that is attractive to murderous weirdos. Western civilization does not cause mental illness, (which has a fairly constant prevalence across all cultures and beliefs) but our values of liberty and humanism create conflicts and barriers in how we address and intervene in the setting of such illness. This sometimes results in tragedies like VT, and Columbine. This is our problem; one for which the Sheik has little to offer. He has his own issues.

The Sheik, were he honest, would realize that there is a lot in Islam that is attractive to psychopaths. 12 year old kids sawing off heads? Not holy, not healthy, not human. Flying airlines into buildings? Not glorious, not courageous, not pious. Try sick, deluded and evil. The list is unfortunately too long to itemize.

There is a lot of comment here about whether Islam is a religion of peace. In my opinion it is not, nor is it a religion of mayhem, or vice or virtue. Rather it is an amalgamation of of ideas and traditions, cobbled togehter over centuries by people with good intentions and bad. Its doctrines attract some good people and repulse others. And sadly there is a Koran-quoting sect (whether or not these are true Muslims is a problem for Muslims to sort out) that attracts the kooks, the sociopaths, the mentally unstable, not because they are holy, but because they are useful. These are ones that murder to satisfy malignant fantasies, and these are the Sheik's audience.

43 Michael Levy

The listeners know that it's not true, but they don't care, because being correct politically is more important than being correct factually.

I disagree- they don't care because they're not allowed to. Much like leftist educators, the imams discourage reasoned thought- they have a history of it. Any muslim trying to call for reason is branded a zindiq, a heratic, and usually put to death.

#66 king

And his last statement, 'This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence...' is again a starting point for debate.

At the risk of an ultra-conservative Lizard being branded somewhat if a "turncoat", I have to agree. In their own misguided way, the Islamists have found the soft underbelly of the Western whale - lack of moral and spiritual certitude.

it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme

Now who does that description remind me of?

Oh, yeah...

What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim? If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down. There would have been commotion and turmoil, and all hell would have broken loose. But since he is neither an Arab nor a Muslim, they accepted it somewhat quietly. They did not talk about it much. This is what is called a double standard. A double standard, a triple standard, or even more... That’s America for you.

hmmm, tough to say what we'd say if a muslim killed three americans, but, then again, that's slightly different then, say, 19 muslims murdering over THREE THOUSAND innocent americans on a beautful september morn. and "didn't talk about it much?" geez, where the f**k were you laast week, pal? guess your satellite dish was on the fritz or is desperate need of an upgrade. but hey, yousouf, why let something as trivial as facts get in the way of good ol' fashioned dogmatic rant, eh?

I got some advice for ya el Sheik Qarad Howdy Doody:

Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time, because then you don't have a leg to stand on. ha.

#11 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
The press is glad Cho wasn't Muslim, but they are disappointed he wasn't an Anglo who kept a Bible in his dorm room.

Oh, but they have bird dropped any mention of Christianity by Cho, no matter how obtuse or antagonistic. They usually leave it dangling in the midst of an article or paragraph in some unclear, muddy reference hoping for inferences to be drawn by unclear, muddy-headed readers.

Cartman,

You're right, but the muslims also have a lack of moral and spiritual certitude. Or at least a totally misguided one.

Are students allowed to raise thier hands in Islamic schools to ask questions?
Serious question because it seems their whole culture is structured around being told what to do, and what to believe. It does not seem that any sort of questioning is encouraged.

Forecast OKC sounding.

I mean, there is a chance for a tornado, even a good sized one. The low level helicity is there. Instability is sufficient, but I'd like to see it a tad higher. I'd prefer the cloud bases a scoshe lower. But a tornado is definitely doable.

Actually, I like Denton, TX best of all, but I'll round up to the nearest city, and call Dallas my tornado pick city tomorrow.

Other favorite place would be just West of MCI/MKC, as warm front should be in area.

While the instability will be on the meager side compared to Dallas or OKC, enhanced horizontal vorticity near the front, and the lower LFC/cloud base, may just make up for it.

Natalie...

You still here?

z9z99

I used to think like you, but have come to the conclusion that the only way a Muslim is peaceful or "just like us" is if they do not study all of their (un)holy book. Islam is unlike any religion ever seen in that there is no hope or peace given nor any grace. Many are regular people just being Muslim because of the family or village they were born into and maybe their Imam is not a kook. But... the words are there in context that tell them how to treat the others around them and it is not pretty.

#88 Cartman

the soft underbelly of the Western whale

There has always been that...and yes, it is larger today than in the past...but still and yet, we have never been without "a small remnant"...and it is well said that there will even be such, to and through the end of time... :)

And what does the esteemed Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi think about the Nome de Guerre "Ismail Axe" I wonder?

#93 murqtaad

You're right, but the muslims also have a lack of moral and spiritual certitude. Or at least a totally misguided one.

I wholeheartedly agree, yet I sometimes question the direction in which our free societies are headed. A lot of hedonism and moral relativism as credo seems to be pervasive, and expanding. Those cultural traits will never prevail over an evil and determined enemy. Just MHO.

#54 Mofo

My wife's a middle-school teacher and most kids today are really f'd up.
They're having sex at younger and younger ages, the boys are hyper-aggressive, the girls are practically naked and all they seem to care about is clothes, gadgets and celebrities.

A lot of idiot parents out there buying their daughters Bratz dolls and telling their sons the military is no place to be.

was the guy scared it was an arAB mmuslim? because it was a typical arab muslim thing to do?

#58 Ma Sands

She's trying real hard.
But the whole MTV, shake your @ss, be a thug and buy expensive crap culture is really bad.

"They knew who it was right from the start. When they realized it was a South Korean, they kept silent."

First of all, Mr. Cho's face was blown off and he carried no ID so officials were not sure right away who did it and they wanted to be sure before they tell the public that a certain person committed such an awful crime. After officials were confident of the ID of the murderer, they released that information to the world so that that sheik could tell that congregation that the mass-murderer was a South Korean and we were also told how to pronounce his name.

There was wall-to-wall coverage on cable tv about the Virginia Tech murders and the murderer who committed them. I doubt there is anyone who didn't know about the man who committed these murders. Some silence!

#103 Mofo

Granted. And that's what my son's Mom's job is, whenever I get the chance --to cheer him on... :)

Good on your wife! :)

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme.

The first part may be true to an extent but the second part does not follow.

I need wading boots (thigh high) for this kind of BS. And for the previous post, as well. They have no thinking or logic skills, whatsoever.

Even in high schools and junior high schools, we see youth who kill their fellow students

And a Muslim 12 Year old is in which of these schools ?

If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened? The world would have turned upside-down. There would have been commotion and turmoil, and all hell would have broken loose

I seem to remember that they murdered almost 3 Thousand without any response by the American people

If South Koreans had killed thousands of people in the name of Sung Yung Moon, the west would probably view this guy as an off shoot of that philosophy. No such connection exists.

BTW - Why would the immam even THINK such a thing could be perpetrated by a practicioner of the Religion of Peace?

#97 Spencer

I think you still think like me. I agree that some muslims have to ignore parts of the Koran, but this really isn't unusual for adherents of any religion. Lots of religious people cherry-pick what they do and don't like about their religion. And I agree that many muslims are such because tha's where they start out. My personal experience with muslims is that they have been without exception, decent people. I will leave it to others to decide if they are decent muslims.

The Koran contains passages that seem to support contradictory philosophies. Some may say the same of the Bible (e.g. "an eye-for-an-eye" vs. "turn the other cheek"). Now a devout adherent to either faith may be able to reconcile such contradictions ("Jesus brought a new Law, "God was just joking," "Satan wrote that"or whatever) but the fanatic see no reason to do so.

If you read the Koran objectively without any tradition in the faith, it is easy to conclude that either more thn one person wrote it, and those that did had vstly different theologies, or that the person who wrote it was bi-polar and was very very literary and artistic when compensated and particularly nasty when not.

One could also conclude, reasonably, that if one person did write it, he did so against a backdrop of different fortunes, conciliatory when at a military disadvantage, and aggressive when sonditions were more favorable. Likewise, one may divide the various verses into Medina and Mecca periods to similar effect.

Read the Koran critically and you will see elemts of Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, and probably every other religion to which Mohammed's wandering exposed him, so it would not be surprising to find something that appeals somewhat to lots of people. You also seem odd statements like "Anyone who doubts the authenticity of this book is challenged to produce another like it." Well, I'm neother a mormon nor B'Hai, but I think those two religions have texts of similar grandeur. And in my opinion Thomas a Kempis' The Imitation of Christ is every bit the insiprational rival of the Koran, without the gore.

The Koran also contains numerous references to "Allah deceives those whom He will." This is hard to square with "allah the compassionate and merciful" but it is exactly what one would expect to find in a recruiting pamphlet. The writer of course needed to explain why not everyone, including obviously good and pious people embraced Muhammed's religion immediately.

There is a lot to despise about actions done in the name of Islam, and there is much to criticize in the Koran that condones such conduct. But I won't condemn someone who was born into Islam and believes in alms-giving and praying five times a day, but who is decent enough to know that hating Jews or Christians or Buddhists or Hindus is a sickness of the soul.

Oh my~!

I *do* believe we just 'jumped the shark' with that sermon.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi!

~Norsk Troll

So... the good sheik is upset that Americans have difficulty distinguishing mass murder perpetrated by certifiably insane nut jobs from mass murder by Islamic jihadist nut jobs? I admit it, it's true.

Maybe Sheik F-Yousef wouldn't be so stunned if Cho had used a dull knife instead

#45 Wishbone

"...it instills in them selfishness and violence, and makes the rifle or the machine-gun rule supreme."

This from the people that have made the AK47 a religious icon?

DING-DING-DING! Wishbone wins the thread!

I ASK THE FOLLOWING OF EVERY LGF VIEWER:

Who needs Orwell when we have this guy?!?

I mean, really?

~Norsk Troll

Heh-heh-heh.

The Hizbo flag translated: God's Kalashnikov.

It's amazing how much the Sheik and Cho share in common. The projection, the perseuction complex, the incapacity to reason logically or present logical arguments. Just psychotic ramblings -- which causes me to wonder if the Sheik and Cho don't have something else in common (?) -- that would be imaginary girl friends of the Jelly variety...

...and the other BIG IRONY is the North Koreans are helping the Iranians with their nuclear programme and their ballistic missiles, with which the mullahs plan to launch a genocidal jihad.

Qaradawi is Mayor Livingstone's boyfriend. He gave him the red carpet treatment and PR'd him as a moderate when the islamofascist pig visited London a few years back.

All I got out of that was that the shriek is just getting us ready for the concept of "armed students," because, you know, the shriek is used to the concept of "armed students."

He should be, they come boiling out of the madrassas of the rest of the world every Friday evening.

And they are all armed with that holy symbol of Islam - the AK/RPG combination.

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At what point did Sean Penns handlers decide it would be a good idea for Sean to speak publically about military/political matters? Does he write his own spew, or does he hire professional spewers to write it for him, like Rosie?

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Why y'all pickin on Dirk? He can't help it, its genetics...

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Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, Islamofascist human butcher supporter, you can go to Hell!

This is the philosophy of violence, the outcome of violent films, the outcome of the violence used by America. America has made force the decisive factor in everything, and it uses its power to force peoples to do as it wishes.

Huh! If that was indeed the case, Cho would never have killed 33 people. He would have been mobbed and killed by the "violent blood crazed citizens".

sorry to get so off topic...

Headline on Drudge

Says Iraqi children 'bed wetting, stuttering'...

Should read:

Says Iraqi children 'American Congress bed wetting, stuttering'...

I even felt great pain at what happened in America.

Yeah right. Of course you did.

/rolls up eyes in head.

Yes... that's America for you, blaming only the people who are at actual fault and not because we have already decided we hate them.

It's called honesty... not that the Sheik is interested in the concept.

I'd bet anything this sheik was 'oddly quiet' about the massacre of schoolchildren at Beslan by Muslims.

Sept. 1st, 2004
1,200 infidels were taken hostage in an elementary school by Chechen Islamists. The Islamists cold-bloodedly murdered 344 human beings, 184 of which were children (and injured hundreds more). The entire community of Beslan must still be reeling from the loss of their loved ones .. loved ones purposefully fed to the vengeful and insatiable Allah of Islamofascists.

This atrocity was not committed by one aberrant person; it was planned and committed by many Islamists pridefully dedicated to their hateful cause. The murders at the elementary school in Beslan were endorsed (and especially endorsed by the silence of) billions of Muslims .. including this sheik of hate.

Well, with a little luck the good Sheikh might just be mugged by reality. In his area of the world that might even be a stray AK-47 shot, a mortar shell, or a car bomb. America, the land of the philosophy of violence, puh-leeze.

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"Why do they hate us?" surrender activists ask.

Goebbels inspired filth like this, spewed from thousands of outlets all over the world every day for fifty years, is the reason.
Foreigners often have the most insane misconceptions about what goes on in this country.

Since our own media aren't much better, and many of our own citizens share similar misconceptions in their isolated campuses and middle-class suburbs, it is hard to focus the blame exclusively on enemy hate-mongers.
In fact, the American left fuels much of the propaganda with its own lies. It is easy for media-slaves the world over to believe that Americans can buy guns over the counter, no questions asked, or that literally anyone can walk around the streets armed. Beasts like Rosie and our own academic community fuel these myths day in and day out.
Every terrorist murder of an American overseas, and a good many in this country, are fueled by the bigoted lies of the global media system. The objective is nothing less than the destruction of American society and the extermination of all but a collaborationist remnant of the American people. Why else do the high-priests of genocide, Chomsky and Zinn, go so far out of their way to connect current ills with allegedly inherent characteristics of American society that date back centuries? The invited inference is that American society is inherently rotten, corrupt, and irredeemable, and must therefore be destroyed.
Millions all over the world have drawn that inference. Only the stupidity and weakness of the enemy regimes has kept them doing more damage than they have.

Streicher was lawfully hanged for less. We've killed 100,000 jihadists since 9-11, but it wouldn't matter if it were a million or ten million so long as the real enemy remains untouched.
Bring these devils to justice. It is the only way.

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I've got my theory about how things work in their culture:

1- Some looser gets all bitter because he's become an inpotent old man and decides to take his angst out on the world around him.

2- He decides the best way to hit back at a world that he's no longer a useful part of is to tell the young men he's jelous of (because they can still get it up) that they need to not have sex and blow themselves up to get lots of hot "Allah sanctioned" sex in heaven. The whole "whores in paradise" line.

3- The youth that have no sexual outlet because of the culture and also because they're way too stupid to score with women buy this as the only way to get laid and BOOM! Car swarms for all.

I really think sexual disfunction is core to islamofascism.

That's my theory, and the theory is mine. Thank you.

My other theory is: the brontosaurus was very thin at the end, much, much bigger in the middle and very thin towards the other end.

(The last one's actually from Monty Python. Sorry)

z9z99 #110 .. Excellent comment

daisy #126 .. "I'd bet anything this sheik was 'oddly quiet' about the massacre of schoolchildren at Beslan by Muslims" . You can say that again, Daisy!

This philosophy of materialism and permissiveness does not instill in them religion, faith, moral values, compassion, or brotherhood. Instead, it instills in them selfishness...

Hmmm... sounds just like Newt Gingrich!

If it had been an Arab Muslim who had killed 3 people - not 33 - what would have happened?

Don't feel bad, big guy. It happens almost every day in Iraq, that an Arab Muslim kills people by the dozens for no reason in particular. Muslim suicide bombers maintain a vigorous presence around Israel, too.

There's probably more violence and killings in and around Baghdad than most any place in the United States, as a matter of fact. I can't think of any cities in the US where 33 people die every day from violence. In Baghdad, that isn't even close to bagging the limit.

By the way, the consensus is the Virginia Tech killer was a disgusting whackjob, not a heroic martyr. He was a low life piece of shit that took out 33 innocent people. We don't celebrate assholes like that the way you do. Actually, we throw dirt on them and piss on their graves. Unless they're Muslim, like the prick in Seattle that went on a Jew killing spree and is resting comfortably, mass murderers don't get a pass in the US.

at #129 !

Oh, man...click through on Hot Air's blue word "Heartbreaking" and read the whole thing... ):

#79 Dirk Diggler

I'll take the vacuous nullity of permissiveness and materialism for 500, Alex. :)

Whoa! I'm in college and am currently taking a course in Islam. My professor, an Imam at a local mosque has had us reading some of Qardawi's writings. He says he's even spoken with him frequently in the past (even recently). My professor attended al-Azhar (sp?) University in Egypt and met Qardawi while he was studying there. He describes Qardawi as a former moderate who became more militantly political after he was imprisoned and tortured, but I had no idea he was THIS bad! The writings we are given in class must be some of his older works, or must be edited. Even in these writings, he appears a bit hardcore, but nowhere near as bad as presented here. Thanks for getting the word out on this!

When they realized it was a South Korean, they kept silent. What would have happened if it had been an Arab or a Muslim?

No, we didn't keep silent. We kept talking about it, but we recognized that it was very anomalous. Is there a South Korean version of Al Queda or Hezbollah in the world, that seeks world domination and theocracy? No. Do South Koreans on a regular basis engage in suicide bombings, car bombings, radom gunfire and other mass murder? No. Muslims do. That's why we make a much bigger fuss over Muslim terrorism than South Korean terrorism, which is nearly entirely an oxymoron. (Prior to Cho, it was a complete oxymoron.)

You're the real hypocrite here as you won't deal with the real problem of Islamic terrorism, while going balistic over this lone wacko.

Yes, sure thing Sheik Stinky.

It’s was so quiet that we noticed Cho’s relative(s) spent some quality time in Saudi Arabia – the home of many terrorists.

Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, you sir are an asshat.

I hve just returned from a vacation in Phuket, in southern Thailand. Phuket is not so far to the South as the four provinces engulfed in murderous terrorism, so a lot of Thai Muslims have escaped north to Phuket.

There was this one guy -- a fraudulent salesman -- who said to everyone passing by "I AM A MUSLIM. AND I HAVE A MOSQUE TO SELL TO YOU." Presumably a very small mosque, allegedly valuable.

And I was surprised by my answering thought:

"HI. I AM A NAZI. DELIGHTED TO MEET YOU."

Can nothing ever make Muslims embarrassed?