Not the "loyal opposition" -- just on the other side.

The New York Times hits a new low:

NY Times on Bestiality: 'What's the Big Deal?'

Doesn't matter if the Dems' proposal is vetoed now or not. They have successfully introduced a waver to the American resolve, and the terrorists in Iraq now know they should simply increase their attacks, until a Dem fianlly takes power and surrenders.

Thanks, Nancy and Harry!

Hang on AL Q in Iraq-Help is on the way!

Signing off. I knew this was coming, but over the signature block of Ministry of Information from Iraq.
I simply can't take it any more. Guess I will follow Glenn Beck's advice and just watch cooking shows.

#2 Fred Lee.

Talk about OT. . .its disgusting, but really, is it worse than killing and skinning the animals?

Frankly, I'm much more offended by their treason and revealing secret programs that damage MY security (and those of every American) than any defense of "interspecies erotica" (cough).

Back on topic, so there we go. Proof positive that the Democrats are emboldening our enemies.

Allah Almighty says:

“ They will not fight you (even) together, except in fortified townships, or from behind walls. Strong is their fighting (spirit) amongst themselves: thou wouldst think they were united, but their hearts are divided: that is because they are a people devoid of wisdom.” Qur’an 59-14

Mo was a prophet. Centuries ago he had a vision of the US liberal/socialist Democrat Party.

Oh boy! I want to see how this plays out.

Is it time for us to form a new country yet? America 2.0?

Don't you know that it is patriotic to give aid and comfort to your nation's enemies in the name of gaining some $enate seats?

Zombie,

Al Queda has simply learned that if you want to defeat the United States militarily, all you have to do is wait for a Democrat administration.

The good news is that them saying they've won doesn't make it true.

If Harry Reid had one shred of honor, he would resign. However, since he is a power hungry, narcissistic, ignorant, vile toad, I don't expect that.
I hate having such clueless morons leading our country.

The last line is a gem...

And Allah’s love is precious and Allah’s provision is paradise. The signs of victory can be seen and the cross worshipper’s defeat is obvious and progressive, all praise be to Allah.

If we end up losing, it will be a "progressive" loss.

Beware the enemy within!

#2 FredLee
The New York Times hits a new low:

NY Times on Bestiality: 'What's the Big Deal?'

Wow, FredLee, you're right: the NY Times really does express moral relativism about bestiality.

The direct link to the review is here:

Like many such documentaries, “Zoo” wraps its sensationalistic core in a seductive mantle, an approach that appeals to viewers already predisposed to art and the Enlightenment, “Sesame Street” and all things not Rush Limbaugh.

Well, if being opposed to and repulsed by bestiality makes me a conservative, then count me in!

At last! I've become a conservative! The New York Times finally pushed me over the edge.

Thanks for that final straw.

#9 wisenheimer

Is it time for us to form a new country yet? America 2.0?

Yes, America 2.0; same as America 1.0, without the bugs...

#2 FredLee

The documentary sounds like something that Disney studios might be interested in distributing. Maybe open up a booth next to the Gay Wedding Chapel in Disneyland and sell copies. Of course, they'll have to edit it a bit in order to get the PG rating.

Well, we knew this was coming. The democrats (I used to be one) have fallen into the same hole that brought us defeat in the 70's, and brought us Jimmy Carter. The only fresh air comes from the republicans.

I am a Vietnam vet, and when the dems sold out that country to the communists, I was sickened. They're doing the same thing in Iraq, only this time to Al Qaeda, who will "bring it on" to America and Europe. [rant off]

The truly sad thing here is that the Dems are able to so easily 'sell' this loser defeatist attitude here at home.

FMEH!

Then came Bush’s stupid statement where he emphasized that his strategic goal in Iraq is more than a military victory but also to prevent the Mujahideen from benefiting from the fruits of the Jihad to ultimately achieve victory.

Was this line written by a jihadi or a kosling?

We need a speech written like this (if it occurs to me then probably many have thought of it already):

"If Churchill was a Democrat"

with the text being in parallel to a certain other famous Churchill speech, but replace fight with surrender:

we will surrender in the streets

and replace surrender with fight:

we will never fight

etc.

Reid is a seditious dimwit who should be checked for dementia. Something is not working for this man.

#16 zombie

Wow, FredLee, you're right: the NY Times really does express moral relativism about bestiality.

They aren't the only ones, Bill Clinton has a daughter.

The leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq are very pleased by the support they’re receiving from US Democrats

The Beheaders and Gang Rapists are rooting for them.

If that doesn't say it all - what does?

How do they show their faces in public each day?

#16 zombie

Heck, zombie - if it was the San Francisco Comical they wouldn't be asking "what's wrong" - they'd be publishing a "how to" guide.

#17 maddog

Yes, America 2.0; same as America 1.0, without the bugs...

Yeah, the original idea is still valid.

#2 FredLee

"The New York Times hits a new low:

NY Times on Bestiality: 'What's the Big Deal?'"

Logical Explanation: NY Times sees victory with Gay Marriage: It's legal now in both Canada and Massachusetts.

Therefore, may as well quickly move on to the next part of this Slippery Slope that Gay Marriage proponents have denied will happen.

My husband sent Harry's office a white flag ($3 washcloth) with this note:

Dear Senator Reid,

After hearing your delcaration that "the war is lost," I thought you might need this to complete your ensemble. It's a good thing you weren't there to advise George Washington after the battle of New York or at Valley forge. You're trying too hard to be something you're not - that being a leader. I'm sure our enemies appreciate you, though. Us little folks paying your salary don't. Use the flag, you earned it.

Sincerely...

As more of our friends have heard about this, they too are sending Reid white handkerchiefs, towels, anything white. It cost $1 to ship.

Here's his D.C. address:

528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

I'm a little rusty on my election law...can the people of the State of Nevada recall their senator?

Semi-OT

Bizarre left twisting of logic about guns watch fron News-weak

The Weapon: A Day in the Life of a 9 mm

Opening paragraph

April 30, 2007 issue - The three students from Wilberforce University, near Xenia, Ohio, had a tremendous fondness for 9-millimeter pistols. They bought them as many as 25 at a time from the accommodating owner of the Hole in the Wall Gun Shop, James Dillard. As required by Ohio law, the buyers duly attested that the guns were for their personal use, which was good enough for Dillard. In fact, according to federal prosecutors, the pistols were passed to a gunrunner who resold them to street gangs. Seventy-six 9mm semiautomatics were sold to just one gang, the Double II Bloods of East Orange, N.J. Jamel Coward, who already had a .45, bought a Leinad 9mm and went out with a friend to try it out. On people. They drove down a street in what they believed to be the territory of the rival Crips, and Coward commenced firing. He wounded three bystanders before a bullet struck 19-year-old Erron Lewin in the neck. Lewin, who belonged to no gang, died on the spot.

The Newsweak's history of the 9mm

Closing paragraph

Many ordinary citizens now have 9-millimeters for protection as well, which means, inevitably, that they get used to settle arguments between spouses or friends. Last month, according to police in Ft. Smith, Ark., a feud between next-door neighbors led to a confrontation that ended in gunfire—a bullet from a 9mm Ruger in the head. (Police believe the gun was legally owned.) Or they get picked up by children, who find the trigger much easier to pull than the one on a revolver. To the lives ruined by this weapon, you can add one more name, that of Jamel Coward, who, five years after he took target practice on a 19-year-old walking down a New Jersey street, faces a sentence of 25 to life after pleading guilty to murder.

Yup, that 9 mm ruined Jamel Coward's life. He didn't do anything to deserve prison, his 9 mm did.

Harry Reid - History will not forget you.

#21 sharmuta

That's a distinction without a difference!

OT - drive by post

Did Condoleezza Rice Try to Make a Secret Deal With the Mullahs?
A tense confrontation within the Bush administration over the release of the Irbil 5.

By Michael Ledeen

Later Mah Lizardim

#9 Wisenheimer
Is it time for us to form a new country yet? America 2.0?

We're already in America 2.0 -- America 3.0, actually.

America 2.0 started in 1865. It really was a new nation that emerged from the Civil War.

America 3.0 started in 1933, when Roosevelt tried to halt the economic collapse of the Depression by turning the US into a centralized semi-socialist nation. Prior to that, we were much more of a "loose federation of sovereign states."

It could be argued that America 4.0 started in 1945 with the arrival of The Bomb and the National Security Apparatus as we assumed the role of Global Leader.

So -- what we need is America 4.0 or 5.0

How about, America 4.1 (beta)?

Harry Reid you Copperhead son-of-a-bitch.

Article 3, Section 3, Paragraph 1, United States Constitution.

Like I said on the open thread:

Ben Hur 4/26/2007 7:45:45 am PDT

Harry Reid is an incredible moral booster.

Harry Reid is an incredible recruiter.

Harry Reid will make you hang on just a little bit longer.

Harry Reid will inspire you to take part of the "Great Victory."

Harry Reid hu-Akbar!

Didn't really think it was possible, but Reid has lept over John Fuckin' Murtha as the most seditious s.o.b. in Congress. And the most ignorant. Iraq is only like Vietnam in that we give the "insurgents" sanctuaries in Iran and Syria the way we gave the VC and NVA sanctuaries in Laos and Cambodia.
We left, they stayed (and slaughtered MILLIONS over there). We leave Iraq, they won't stay there, guaranteed.
Charles I gotta tell ya, with all the great and newsworthy Threads you're putting up, even though it's REALLY EARLY, a beach, fence or anything else as a thread would be really nice right now!

#36 zombie

Beta was the better system, if I recall.

Well, this fits in nicely...
Front page at Dkos: It's Official: Lieberman's Not a Donkey, He's a Jackass

When politicians here declare that Iraq is "lost" in reaction to al-Qaeda's terrorist attacks and demand timetables for withdrawal, they are doing exactly what al-Qaeda hopes they will do, although I know that is not their intent.

This must be Lieberman's attempt to show that he's not really a tool of the Bush administration. Instead of claiming that Democrats enable terrorists, Lieberman says that Democrats are the unwitting pawns of terrorists. Dupes versus traitors. Much better.

Jackass.

Who's the Jackass now?

About the movie 'Zoo'

I am just a bit curious what would make a man think he could have a horse phallus inserted in his rectum and not suffer serious or fatal injury.

Harry Reid you are putting a bigger war and more deaths on our grandchildren.

The leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq are very pleased by the support they’re receiving from US Democrats...

That statement came from the Islamic State of Iraq, which is a group that only exists because we invaded in the first place.

#2 FredLee

The New York Times hits a new low:

NY Times on Bestiality: 'What's the Big Deal?'

Wouldn't a better headline have been "Don't have a cow, man?"

#44 Ed

Uh, why do you think somebody at LGF can tell you?

But whatever you do, don't question their patriotism!

Lord knows I don't -- why question something that does not exist?

#2 FredLee

I notice that there's a Netflix ad on that page.

How much ya wanna bet that this documentary hits the DVD stores?

Following up with... action figures.

The future? Supreme Court listens to arguments why a man should be allowed to marry his German Shepherd.

Brought to you by Moral Relativism and the letters WTF

Even if I live to be 100 I shall never again vote for a Democrat.

Speaking of animals Rosie O'Pig wanted Barbara Walters off the show.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

I would be deleted if I said what I realy think of Mr. Reid.

#51 Ojoe

AHAH! So you admit it, you have voted for a Democrat.

/shame:)

#40 realwest

When the Democratic-sanctioned bloodbath occurs in Iraq, there will be no accountability, rather, it will be non-stop "I told you so."

The MSM has obliterated the concept of cause and effect. It will be Bush's fault, of course.

I call for early elections!

For the last 6 years the Dems have acted as if we have a parlimentary multi (2+) party system, made up of coalitions (theirs with the MSM) and back room deals, ala Italy, Israel, and probably most places where parliments govern.

They act as though they can "bring down the government" like they do in Europe or Israel, and call for early elections.

That system sucks compared to the American model.

Why? Because, prior to Bush getting elected, and prior to the Dems being led by leftist internationalists who follow the lead of the global leftists sitting in Europe, the role of the opposition party was to present alternate ideas, NOT TO WORK TO BRING DOWN THE SITTING GOVERNMENT.

No longer my friends. So I call for early elections.

Maddog- That was sort of a rhetorical question.

I sincerely hope nobody here would ever try to take it from a horse.

#2 FredLee

Does the NYT writer have the hots for Big Bird? Freud would have a field day with that guy.

#9 wisenheimer

Is it time for us to form a new country yet? America 2.0?

#17 maddogg

Yes, America 2.0; same as America 1.0, without the bugs...

We're already well past America 2.0, thanks to the "living, breathing Constitution" et alia. I wouldn't mind a return to America 1.0.

54 Maddog

In my college days. And for Jerry Brown.

#58 Ed

/kidding

#61 Ojoe

Oh! Lord...

46 ChenZhen

The leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq are very pleased by the support they’re receiving from US Democrats...

That statement came from the Islamic State of Iraq, which is a group that only exists because we invaded in the first place.

M'kay- so how does that negate Charles' point, that al-qaeda supports "important" statements like harry reid's?

#51 Ojoe

I will if his name is Zell Miller - after that, nope.

#46 ChenZhen Uh huh. Yeppers. Good ole Sadaam, really had no time for terrorists or destroying Israel did he?
Your posts clearly confuse me, sometimes they are bright and insightful and others, such as your #46 strike me as willfully ignorant.

#42 buzzsawmonkey

Oh yes. Then comes the Beastiality Farms, the Beastiality Legal Benefits to visit your Animal when he/she is in the veterinary hospital for an STD that you gave it...

Muslim Immigrants don't need to get Visas as they will earn plenty of money running the Beastiality Farms and Beastiality Beach Resorts.

California is going to Front this effort by 2015.

Any W.E.B. Griffin fans here? I was just re-reading his Korean War books and, although it is fictionalized history, all accounts of Harry S. Truman have always shown him to be one tough patriotic bastard. In the book, he frequently says about his #1 political rival, "He thinks I'm wrong about almost everything, but I know we're on the same team in this war so I'd like him to stay for this military briefing".

Makes me sad and angry to read that.

#44 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
About the movie 'Zoo'

I am just a bit curious what would make a man think he could have a horse phallus inserted in his rectum and not suffer serious or fatal injury.

What could make him do it?

Desire. Lust. The guy who died apparently had a long-standing obsession with large penises and a lifelong fantasy to have anal sex with a horse. The only difference between him and the average pervert is his stupidity in thinking he could survive it.

The video was widely posted on blogs a couple years back. I actually watched it, embedded in someone's blog posting.

Took quite a time for them to arrange bodies and so forth to get to the point of insertion. Then it was all over in one thrust.

You don't actually see the guy dying, but you do hear him cry/moan/grunt in pain. Then the video ends.

#57 buzzsawmonkey
Well then, Britain now appears to be in a fully fledged pillow fight with Islam.

#16 zombie

Welcome to the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Maybe the NYT is trying to make us comfortable with goat-humping, sure to become a staple of the caliphate.

65 CG

I would except Mr. Miller, yes.

Over and out, too much work to do.

OK, I gotta go back and study my courses for nursing school.

I want to be sure that I graduate so a few years down the road when Byrd and Reid are in a nursing home, I'll be there to personnaly administrate their twice-daily cod liver oil enema.

#60 JamesTKirk

Actually, we never lived up to the principles of America 1.0, I want to get to the principle of America 1.0, not the reality of early American life, too many contradictions.

#73 Hot Rod Kid

I want to be sure that I graduate so a few years down the road when Byrd and Reid are in a nursing home, I'll be there to personnaly administrate their twice-daily cod liver oil enema.

Get pictures.

Reid is a traitor.

The demoncrats attitude toward our youth is everyone should get a trophy, no winners, no losers. So why not use this with the world? No winners, no losers, can't we all just get along and all get a trophy?

The dems have ruined our youth with this nonsense and now they will ruin the Country. harry reid is a complete moron and needs to be jerked out of his position.

Perhaps we should all contact Joe Lieberman and plead with him for the good of the Country to denouce the democrats and start siding with the only group that will protect us, the Republicans.

#73 Hot Rod Kid

OK, I gotta go back and study my courses for nursing school.

I want to be sure that I graduate so a few years down the road when Byrd and Reid are in a nursing home, I'll be there to personnaly administrate their twice-daily cod liver oil enema.

Assuming that such treatments are still available under Hillarycare.

*spit*

#67 Jeff MacMillan

I predicted all that a few years ago, when "domestic partner" benefits came into vogue.

Remember how some shrinks tried a few years ago to normalize pedophilia, and how "Dr. Laura" raised a huge stink about it? I bet they'll try again soon.

#69 zombie

Link?

/no, not really.

#78 newsjunkie_ky

The demoncrats attitude toward our youth is everyone should get a trophy, no winners, no losers. So why not use this with the world?

Wouldn't be the first time. Remember the blather about "The Cold War is over, it doesn't matter who won and who lost"?

#74 maddog

Actually, we never lived up to the principles of America 1.0, I want to get to the principle of America 1.0, not the reality of early American life, too many contradictions.

That opportunity is long gone, considering most Americans' idea of hardship is watching American Idol on a black and white TV.

Let's not forget to thank the weak-kneed Republicans for allowing the Democrats to run rampant over them. The people we elected as a majority sat and did nothing while the Democrats built more and more opposition to the war. They never refuted the Democrats arguments with more than "nuh-uh" while they became more and more hysterical and re-formed the truth to their "reality."

From the beginning, the Democrats believed this was Vietnam. I argued vehemently against that, but now I see it is the same. Despite pledges that we would never allow the Dems to do the same thing, our elected representatives sat back and repeated the errors of the Vietnam War. It is another Vietnam now.

The President allowed them to sap his strength, then his will. The Republicans should be ashamed of themselves, and I am left wondering who will I vote for, or if it's even worth it.

No! Harry Reid should not resign! All he's doing is giving aid and comfort Al Qaeda, who will, of course, see how peaceful we are and stop hating us as much. Maybe we will even come together, hug a tree, smoke some pot and sing Kumbaya. Maybe Al Gore will convince them to stop suicide bombings because they release so much carbon dioxide. They have to think about their children, at least the ones they don't use as car bombs.
Who should really resign is Alberto Gonzales, because how dare he not explain why he fired his own employees! Maybe next time he'll commit a worse offense, like get a parking ticket.

/moonbat off

#84 Wisenheimer

Wrong! All it will take is an extremely bloody civil war, then..Viola! We can start again.

#69 zombie

What could make him do it?

Desire. Lust. The guy who died apparently had a long-standing obsession with large penises and a lifelong fantasy to have anal sex with a horse. The only difference between him and the average pervert is his stupidity in thinking he could survive it.

The video was widely posted on blogs a couple years back. I actually watched it, embedded in someone's blog posting.

Took quite a time for them to arrange bodies and so forth to get to the point of insertion. Then it was all over in one thrust.

You don't actually see the guy dying, but you do hear him cry/moan/grunt in pain. Then the video ends.

And it will only be a matter of a few months, or less, and the Democrats will have passed "hate speech crimes", and anyone who simply criticizes or disagrees with a person such as you mentioned, can be jailed.

The legislation is going to the Full House right now.

Maybe we should organize a campaign to send white feathers to Harry Reid. Simply putting a white feather in an envelope would do it, and it would only take one stamp to send.

What point is there calling Harry Reid a traitor when his party and supporters consider treason and patriotism the same thing?

I voted for a Democrat.

His name was Harry Flood Byrd, Jr.

& you know what. I would do it again, & again, & again ...

#64 Sharmuta 4/26/2007 9:43:26 am PDT

M'kay- so how does that negate Charles' point, that al-qaeda supports "important" statements like harry reid's?

I'm not sure if al Qaeda in Iraq supports Reid's statement, because this came from a different insurgency group. The headline is inaccurate, that's all.

Last I heard, however, al Qaeda in Iraq wanted us to start bombing Iran. Sound familiar?

#13 Marine Mom

I hate having such clueless morons leading our country.

Harry Reid, of course, is a Mormon. Is this a foretaste of what Mormon leadership of America will be? Is Mitt Romney in this camp, too?

Isn't it funny that the jihadis keep using the defeatists own language and talking points to prove that the US doesn't have the stamina or stomach to fight jihad. All it does is provide encouragement and help in the recruitment of yet more jihadis who are only too happy to blow themselves up in the name of Allah. Never mind that the reality is different - the perceptions are the truth at this point for the media, for the defeatist democrats and the jihadis.

More here. And here.

Then again, if the jihadis were truly winning, why would they have to recruit 10 year olds to fight their wars? Where have all the men gone?

OT:

Blatant racism/sexism at HuffPo:

On their Condi Rice thread today, the first post you see is this:

then drag her big black ass into jail.
By: bushindrag on April 26, 2007 at 09:46am

and when someone admonished the racism, you see this exchange:

Per the above comment, we don't need racism in this conversation.

By: BrooklynC on April 26, 2007 at 09:57am
Flag: [abusive]

What racism?
By: AngryNigga on April 26, 2007 at 10:02am

and:

I don't know if she is black enough but lets break out the Jackson and Sharpton machine to protect her from the pony show...
By: Booboouu on April 26, 2007 at 10:26am

Then there's this:

If the bitch doesn't honor the supoena, hold her in contempt of congress and put her in jail until she agrees to testify. It is as simple as that. If she is in jail then she can't do any more damage to this country.
By: mphalen on April 26, 2007 at 10:11am

and this:

Throw the c()nt into my woodchipper...I need some nice black dirt for my garden.
By: PissedoffVietVet on April 26, 2007 at 10:34am

Another example of what the left wing has become today.

#79 buzzsawmonkey
My wife is a big fan of that flick.

#85 molepeople

Let's not forget to thank the weak-kneed Republicans for allowing the Democrats to run rampant over them.

I agree that they're wimps.

Hey Harry,

If we've lost then who's won?

#86 buzzsawmonkey
#69 zombie

Supposedly, Catherine the Great of Russia died after a similar foolish experiment.

Some people simply refuse to learn from history.

Actually, the story was that the horse's weight crushed her to death as the winch that was lowering it on her broke. They never even got to the sex part.

In any event, most historians now think the Catherine the Great/horse story is apoocryphal.

Reid emboldens U.S. enemies around the world, including in the U.S! He should be removed from office.

Warning- all Americans watching this will be extremely angry.

Radical New York Muslims Publicly Desecrate American Flag [Video]

#94 Digger Dan

Harry Reid, of course, is a Mormon. Is this a foretaste of what Mormon leadership of America will be? Is Mitt Romney in this camp, too?

Now now, that's the sort of profiling that gets LGF branded as a hate site, because it's only wrong when us evil Christians do it.

Where is Bush to punish Dingy Harry and Terrorist Lover Pelosi? Where is Cheney to punish these two traitors?

One or both, Bush/Cheney MUST say something to either those two traitors in private or they must issue a very public comment about what the damage those two are doing to the troops and to the USA.

This is absolutely unbeleiveable.

Whats done to TRAITORS? Thats what Reid and Pelosi have proven they are. PROVEN by their acts and what they have said. For us all to see and hear. What else do they need to do to show that they are proven traitors? Go to Israel and kill some jooos while dressed as Muslim terrorists? Issue threats to kill Bush and Cheney. From their own mouths?

I mean come on!

Lets move it Bush and Cheney. You both look weak and like you have no spines at all.
Do something!

Bush, ive come to expect this from him, to do nothing. But for Cheney to do nothing, i find amazing.

Mr. Reid: "...the situation in Iraq is same as it was in Vietnam.”

Well, yes and no.
No - Vietnam was part of a larger policy of containment of communism, which ended up working out pretty well.

Yes - Pessimistic media reporting fueled political pressure to limit military actions and end the war before accomplishing all the objectives. Eventually leading to the deaths of millions of people.

And now

Tackling Homegrown Terrorism (Rep. Dave Reichert)

What direction will the reid-bots try to lead this?

Man arrested in threat on GOP official

LAS VEGAS - A man accused of threatening a Nevada Republican Party official with a rifle was arrested Tuesday in a vehicle in which police found swords, knives, a shotgun, shells and a flare gun, authorities said.

Matthew Hunter Kramer, 31, did not resist officers who arrested him on a warrant issued after the April 3 confrontation at state Republican Party offices in Las Vegas. It wasn't clear why he was not arrested earlier.

Kramer invited him to look at something in the trunk of his Mercedes before pulling out a rifle, pointing it at his face and warning that he would be back if President Bush vetoed an emergency war spending bill being considered by Congress.
Bush and Democratic leaders are locked in a dispute over the president's pledge to veto legislation if it sets a timetable on the Iraq war.

Kramer also removed photos of Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney from the wall of the office and threatened to harm staff members, Moyle said. Kramer left his cell phone number with office staff before leaving, police said.

He is charged with criminal syndicalism, assault with a deadly weapon and aiming a firearm at a person, police Officer Martin Wright said.

Criminal syndicalism makes it a crime to advocate sabotage, violence or terrorism to accomplish industrial or political reform, said Ron Bloxham, a Clark County prosecutor. It carries a maximum sentence of six years in prison.

Of course all the usual liberal gun control advocates are talking about this story in which a liberal peace activist used a gun to threaten a Republican official. Not.

And if it's "a crime to advocate sabotage, ...to accomplish ...political reform" then what do you call the Democrat's war funding bill if not sabotage?

#96 3 wood

OT: Blatant racism/sexism at HuffPo:

Pretty soon, they won't be allowed to comment on anything over there.

#94 Digger Dan

I don't think they're in the same camp.

Interestingly, I got an email from the Romney campaign, sent via JPost.

#19 Golem Akbar

They're doing the same thing in Iraq, only this time to Al Qaeda, who will "bring it on" to America and Europe. [rant off]

Copy that. They are either to stupid or power mad to see it. I don'k know which is worse.

#110 Me

I got that Romney/JPost email this morning, by the way.

#109 JamesTKirk

I think HuffPo will cease to exist soon, because of stuff like that.

#90 Ward Cleaver

Couldn't that be a HATE crime!

Top

#104 JoiseyMafia

Lets move it Bush and Cheney. You both look weak and like you have no spines at all.

Exactly! This has happened over and over and over again. No response. The NYT publishes secrets. Crickets. Dems call the troops murderers and Nazis. No response.

We needed a leader, someone that could galvanize the public, keep us unified. What we got was silence.

#99 buzzsawmonkey

I'm totally serious.

I think Harry Reid has some kind of a deal with the jihadis. Perhaps he was satsified when they promised to kill him last.

#102 POLAR WIND

Radical New York Muslims Publicly Desecrate American Flag

So why can't we do the same to them without it being hate speech?

Found on LJ: 1, 2.

Hopefully Reid is allergic to chicken feathers.

"Ahhh-CHOO!"

"God Blast You!"

#2, et al.

That is not OT at all. It's all a part of the same battle. Bestiality has no place in a Judaic-Christian society, nor does sharia law. Both the secular left & the jihadis have the same short-term goal, which is the destruction of our society.

But don't believe that Sunnis & Shiites can get along, or that secular tyrants like Saddam could have ever allied with al-queda.

Harry Reid, of course, is a Mormon. Is this a foretaste of what Mormon leadership of America will be? Is Mitt Romney in this camp, too?

Harry Reid, who did not attend church growing up, and his Jewish wife, converted to Mormonism shortly before his first run for public office, in a majority Mormon district in Northern Nevada.

The theology is quite non-standard, to say the least, from a Christian point of view, but Mormons tend to be very patriotic and family oriented, there seemed to be a disproportionate number of Mormons when I was in the Navy (you can spot them from their funny underwear), and they are quite patriotic.

Back to work.

Keep up the good fight.

(Frankly, the Dems have gone off the deep end & the People know it. Fear not.)

#104 JoiseyMafia

Where is Bush to punish Dingy Harry and Terrorist Lover Pelosi? Where is Cheney to punish these two traitors? ... Whats done to TRAITORS?

It's been a long time since anyone has been tried for treason. It would be nice to see someone, anyone, tried and convicted of treason now ... just to give the rest of them pause.

Wonder if Brian Williams wil bring this up as a question at tonight's Democrat Party Presidential debate?

I'd love to hear what Shrillary and Obama think about it...

Not to mix subjects, but voting for Democrats can be construed as taking a horse prong up the poop chute, seems to me...

#46 ChenZhen
The leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq are very pleased by the support they’re receiving from US Democrats...

That statement came from the Islamic State of Iraq, which is a group that only exists because we invaded in the first place.

So what exactly do you suggest? Should the US have allied with Saddam Hussein? If not, what else should the US position in the region have been?

#122 unreconstructed rebel

(Frankly, the Dems have gone off the deep end & the People know it. Fear not.)

Actually, a frighteningly large percentage of "the People" either don't know it... or are Dems who have gone off the deep end.

Meanwhile, the University of Oklahoma is erecting a monument to the student who blew himself up.

What the hell is wrong with people?

#13 Marine Mom

If Harry Reid had one shred of honor, he would resign.

Quoted for truth

Real,

You know I have great admiration for your work, life, and character. But man, you missed the boat on you comment about Chenzen:

Your posts clearly confuse me, sometimes they are bright and insightful and others, such as your #46 strike me as willfully woefully ignorant.

There, that's better.

93 ChenZhen

That's a pretty old link, and that guy is dead. Sure that's still their plan? Besides, I don't think iran needs al qaeda's help in convincing the US that iran is a threat. You didn't buy into this meme, did you?

#118 JamesTKirk

Good question.

Here's one good reason never to burn a U.S. flag.

Nice pictures.

2 Fred

Like many such documentaries, “Zoo” wraps its sensationalistic core in a seductive mantle..

There is something seriously wrong with the person who wrote this.

Bill Roggio has another fine update from Iraq at the 4th Rail,

The fighting in Diyala will only intensify as the U.S. and Iraqi forces build up the capacity to conduct the Diyala Campaign later this spring. Al Qaeda has prepared fighting positions, supply bases, IED traps, bomb rigged buildings, and training camps in the province. Over 2,000 hardened al Qaeda fighters are operating in Diyala, and an American intelligence official and a U.S. military officer informs us al Qaeda is operating along the lines of Hezbollah's military structure in Lebanon. Al Qaeda is organized in small military units with infantry, anti-tank teams, suicide and IED cells, and logistical nodes.* The assault on the As Sadah outpost demonstrated the capacity has been built in Diyala.

*Gosh, I wonder where they learned that?

#128 Me

Again, the relationship of cause and effect is completely lost on the MSM.

OT
any Muslims in Northeastern Alabama?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

an as-yet-unidentified local militia group

The group has also allegedly been involved in the sales and/or distribution of other types of explosive devices and weapons, but the nature of these has not yet been revealed

declined to release the names of anyone who was arrested

/just askin'

Maybe Rudy isn't really the answer. We need to protect the right to keep and bear arms. Because when it comes right down to it, our govt is NOT capable of protecting us.

#46 ChenZhen
If we hadn't won WWI there never would have been Nazis.

101 zombie

The Catherine the Great story was a lie spread with the consent and knowledge of her son, Paul, who hated Mommy with a passion. It was one of the innumberable ways he discredited his mother in retaliation for the murder of his father.

Friars Tale

Looks like a bunch of "pro life" extremists, not the ROP

Bill Moyers special on the severe threat of "right wing conservative terrorism" in AMerica coming soon to PBS

#137 NiceLass

Maybe Rudy isn't really the answer.

Unfortunately, there's no perfect answer. What there is is "the best we can get". So far, that looks like Rudy (certainly more so than any of the Dems).

#122 unreconstructed rebel
(Frankly, the Dems have gone off the deep end & the People know it. Fear not.)

They don't. The general opinion following the mainstream media line is that an incompetent war mongering Bush turned the rest of the world against us and we need to elect a Democrat to restore peace and harmony. Beyond that most voters know very little about the issues.

Obama will be the next president.

Chenzen,

I know you think of yourself as head and shoulders above the average LGF poster. So could you give a brilliant analysis of what you think might happen if we just ditched Iraq, or better yet had never gone?

Because apparently, you must believe that if we would only get out of the middle east, everything would be hunky.

See, I'm of the opinion that one way or another, Al-Queda is going to try to kill us since UBL did declare war on the U.S. So my rational is: (1) We kill them first, and (2) If we have to fight, let them fight our best on their soil.

So tell me where I'm wrong.

#2 FredLee,

An endorsement of bestiality by the Left's Secular Bible (where anything - but common decency and reason - goes)? Hey, you've nailed another conjunction of Leftism/Islamist sex ideals. Animals have a right to have sex with whomever they choose to have sex with dammit! Oh .. wait .. they don't do the choosing, do they? :(

Harry Reid's and Osama's devotees now have another something in common share. But we knew that all along, didn't we?

#141 TMF

Moyers is full of shit. He needs to be in the same room with Reid and Byrd, to receive his cod liver oil enema.

#137 NiceLass

Maybe Rudy isn't really the answer. We need to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

Now, you've stepped in it! Be prepared to be accused of being a DU plant.

OT:
A sign posted by Tehran police translated

#146 Ward Cleaver

Moyers is full of shit. He needs to be in the same room with Reid and Byrd, to receive his cod liver oil enema.

Remind me never to piss you off.

#128 Wisenheimer

How long before that thing disappears, like the KKK Adopt-A-Highway signs in St. Louis?

#150 JamesTKirk

Hot Rod Kid started it.

#140 buzzsawmonkey

This fits in with the accusation that Bush squandered worldwide sympathy after 9/11. As long as we were victims, the world pretended to support us. As soon as we fought back, we became the villain, much like Israel.

The Democrat's infantile preoccupation with ensuring the world likes us will get us killed.

#140 Buzzsawmonkey

Ayn Rand wrote and lectured about these things in the 60's. I am constantly amazed at how right she got it. Regardless of whether you fully agree with her philosophy, she absolutely nailed this attitude of victimization, and replacing reality with feelings, wishes, and hopes.

The sad part is that they have deluded themselves for so long that they believe in their reality, although it bears no resemblance to Reality.

Is Allah angry with Turkey?

Hunt for Turkey collapse victims

#149 buzzsawmonkey

That would be a start. Now I just have to find some white feathers. The arts and crafts store, maybe?

#137 NiceLass
Maybe Rudy isn't really the answer. We need to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

Please pull your head out of your ass. Rudy is not going to take away your guns!

Whatever Giuliani said or did on the issue in the context of New York City politics has nothing to do with what he would do as President.

#155 St. Pancake

I'd say so, just like all the earthquakes in Iran.

#22 Harley H. Cudney, PhD

We need a speech written like this (if it occurs to me then probably many have thought of it already):

"If Churchill was a Democrat"

I'll take a stab at it (from an American rather than a British POV, since it's about Democrats):

"We shall not go on to the end, we shall not fight in France, we shall not fight on the seas or oceans, we shall not fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall not defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall not fight on the beaches, we shall not fight on the landing grounds, we shall not fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall not fight in the hills; we shall surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were free and prosperous, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the European Union, would carry on the struggle, until, in "god"'s good time, the Old World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the New."

This is really not the thread to be reading during lunch. I'm not sure which is more disgusting, Harry Reid's behavior or the horsey stuff. At least horsey-boy only hurt himself.

#147 maddogg

Be prepared to be accused of being a DU plant.

But a DU plant would never admit that our govt can't protect us.

Although I haven't yet figured out if the liberals really think the govt can protect us, or if they don't think there's any threat against us, or if they don't want to be protected.

Maybe a combo...God only knows with the mind of a liberal.

NiceLass, Peter Verkooijen -

Rudy has stated that he would put justices (strict constructionists) like Roberts and Alito on SCOTUS.

Jim & Peter

Ok, I need to come back on line.

Without being pollyannaish, I must continue to believe in our American experiment. Paraphrasing Lincoln, [the MSM may] fool all of the people some of the time, but they're not going to fool us all the time.

I have seen the blue state/red state map & there are a hell of a lot of people out in Jesusland who, while a bit disgruntled in '06, are still quite capable of delivering a stunning victory. I really do think Reid & Co's shenanigans are going to work to against them.

My money is on Rudy.

RAther than a feather, I sent SEn. Reid a copy of the document quoted above, with a thank you note and a suggestion that he migh be up for a medal from AQI.

#157 Peter Verkooijen

Whatever Giuliani said or did on the issue in the context of New York City politics has nothing to do with what he would do as President.

I'll skip past your rudeness and ask what exactly makes you think so. Are you a friend of his?

Chen 93,

I'm not sure if al Qaeda in Iraq supports Reid's statement, because this came from a different insurgency group.

Horse. Fucking. Shit. You dishonest POS.

You need a large, dark cup of Shut the Fuck Up.

#109 JamesTKirk

Pretty soon, they won't be allowed to comment on anything over there.

Yep. Here's some more racism/sickness from the same thread:

Even though it will hang up the postings a bit could someone please omit the rascist comments before they automactially get thrown up there? They bring down the level of this very serious issue to primitivism.

By: freeus1 on April 26, 2007 at 11:45am
Flag: [abusive]

Alas, that's what happens when a law-breaking administration has a Ubangi (and a butt-ugly one at that) as Secretary of State..
By: GHB214 on April 26, 2007 at 12:08pm

And then there's this one, blaming republicans for their own racist postings (that do not get deleted, by the way):

These racist fools are not Democrats, and they're probably not even racists. They're republican "Poison Trolls", here to pose as Democrats and try to portray us in a bad light. Fairly transparent, but they must think it works or they wouldn't do it.

You just have to ignore them.
By: realityrules on April 26, 2007 at 12:50pm

there this call to assassinate Rice:

She looked the other way and didn't do a damn thing while Israel destroyed Lebanon,

Assassinate the fucking bitch!
By: PissedoffVietVet on April 26, 2007 at 01:05pm

and this:

...Condisleazy needs to take her knee-pads off, slide into her Ferragamos, and walk her black, incompetent ass over to the House or get jailed for being in contempt of Congress...
By: souris on April 26, 2007 at 01:22pm

More examples of what the left wing has become today.

Whatever Giuliani said or did on the issue in the context of New York City politics has nothing to do with what he would do as President.

Well, now. I feel all better now. Oricle has spake. Can't take a man's past actions into account when predicting what he might do in the future. Who has their head up their ass?

#160 doppler:

At least horsey-boy only hurt himself.

Don't you think that horse is scarred for life? Where's PETA on this one?

#93 ChenZhen

Last I heard, however, al Qaeda in Iraq wanted us to start bombing Iran. Sound familiar?

Al Qaeda in Iraq receives funding, training & weapons from Iran. Before the US performed invasive surgery on him with a 500lb JDAM, Zarqawi received medical treatment in Iran in 2005.

That statement came from the Islamic State of Iraq, which is a group that only exists because we invaded in the first place.

The group that now calls itself "Al Qaeda in Iraq" includes the group which used to call itself, Ansar al Islam. Iran harbours several top Al Qaeda figures including one of Osama bin Laden's sons. Ansar al Islam also received some support & protection from Saddam. In the 1990's many top Baath offical were in contact with Salafist radicals and were moving toward an alliance with Islamists. In other words, the change from nationalist fascism to Islamofascism was already under way under Saddam.

Breaking...

The Senate has passed the War Supplemental... Time for W to break out that Veto Pen he's been hiding all these years...

I see that Murqtaad's troll detector is on.

In other words, the change from nationalist fascism to Islamofascism was already under way under Saddam.

Absolutely !
SAddam was an opportunist and knew what was going on in his own backyard(and in the muslim world at large) and wanted to take advantage of it.

#173 tfc3rid

The Senate has passed the War Supplemental... Time for W to break out that Veto Pen he's been hiding all these years...

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

If he doesn't, no one will ever take one of his threats seriously again.

#102 POLAR WIND

Radical New York Muslims Publicly Desecrate American Flag [Video]

Towards the end of the video one can clearly see many of the faces of these [bigoted word]s. Just in case their identities are not known to our FBI, I forwarded the link

#101. The weird thing is, the (apparently ) true story of how Catherine the Great met her demise is pretty embarrassing itself: She died of a stroke or brain aneuryism while seated on her chamber-throne, straining to move her bowels. Really, the mental image that leaves behind isn't much of an improvement over the "horse scenario".

There are words that describe low life scum sucking traitorous bastards like Harry Reid, but I won't use them here.

change from nationalist fascism to Islamofascism

There's a difference?

/I love this site. Learn something new everyday.

137 NiceLass 4/26/2007 10:13:13 am PDT

Maybe Rudy isn't really the answer. We need to protect the right to keep and bear arms. Because when it comes right down to it, our govt is NOT capable of protecting us.

NiceLass, you aren't the only one who thinks this. I also think this way and my ass does not have my head in it..peter is being more than rude. And your postings show me that your head is not in your ass either.

Azfederalist also had interesting things to say when people start to attack those who don't think Rudy is the best and ONLY choice: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I don't look at what Rudy says he will do...I look at what he did. I also look at his interviews that explain why he did what he did and I'm FAR from impressed with his reasoning. I'm surprised someone like him who is not really a Republican in my view would not have first met with the NRA to find out that the 2nd amendment is not just about hunting and firm up a little better his defense of it since he knew he'd be running as a Republican..DUHHH. My mouth dropped open when he reaffirmed his position that he thought his gun reduction worked well and that no one should worry, that he won't do anything to hinder hunting.

I don't see it as a bad thing to think that a republican candidate atleast needs to unwaivering back the 2nd amendment. I'll vote for him if I have to over a dem, but I see no reason to throw up the hands and run around like chicken little saying that we have no hope but him. We have time, we have no idea what the future holds.

#94 Digger Dan
Religion has nothing to do with it.
I have only contempt for Harry Reid. He sickens me. I respect Mitt Romney. IIRC, he gave a speech a while back, and said it might not be a bad idea to bug mosques (or maybe certain mosques). I think that's a great idea.
Romney seems to understand what we are fighting, as do Guiliani and McCain, and the other Repubs.
Huge difference.

#178 Pajama Person

The weird thing is, the (apparently) true story of how Catherine the Great met her demise is pretty embarrassing itself: She died of a stroke or brain aneuryism while seated on her chamber-throne, straining to move her bowels...

A death fit for a King.

/Thank yew, thank yew verramuch uh huh huh

#144 goodbye_natalie 4/26/2007 10:15:40 am PDT

Chenzen,

I know you think of yourself as head and shoulders above the average LGF poster.

Not really. I do feel compelled at times to point out things that are blatantly misleading, however. I'd like to think the site is better for it.

#161 NiceLass

I've fought the Rudy G. battle several times now. A certain number of his supporters have decided since they cannot guarantee he was lying about his feelings for gun control in the past, they toss in the straw man riding the red herring, and resort to calling names and making accusations.

I have been alternately a troll and a DU plant, depending on who you ask.

I've decided reasonable discussion is not possible.

/been there, done that.

#157 Peter Verkooijen
... I'll skip past your rudeness and ask what exactly makes you think so. Are you a friend of his?

No, but I live in New York and am aware of the political climate here and in other urban centers. You have to understand how to deal with (and counter) the left and Giuliani does. Politics is the art of the possible. It would be extremely short-sighted to make gun rights the defining issue of this election.

Giuliani certainly isn't making gun rights and abortion the central themes of his campaign. He knows he has to convince the conservative base that he will stay on the party line on those issues. He does so by emphasizing his commitment to uphold the constitution and appoint conservative judges. His priorities are elsewhere.

#172 Kenneth

It does not matter now anyway. Harry and Nancy are in charge. This nightmare in Iraq will end soon. Once we raise the white flag, put our tails between our legs and hand the keys over to the Head choppers and suicide bombers, everything in the middle east will calm down. There was no problem in Iraq until George Bush (in the name of Big Oil and Haliburton) illegally invaded the kite flying, peace loving Saddam Hussein regime...so, fear not, the kites will fly again soon. And, we can all sleep peacefully at night knowing our fate and future are in the capable hands of the democrats.

/sarc

#176 JamesTKirk

If he doesn't [veto], no one will ever take one of his threats seriously again.

It almost doesn't matter. The terrorists can see the progression of anti-war attitude in this country and among our leaders. Two years ago, even if they'd had a majority, the Dems wouldn't have tried to actually demand a pullout date. But now, it's plain that given just a little more time, we will capitulate.

So, even if the President vetoes the bill, they know that in a year it will be different; perhaps two years, after the election. They have patience. Hell, they've waited hundreds and hundreds of years for this, two or three don't make much difference.

Chen, go hang out with that fuckwit Treez at fearbush.com.

#183 Now that you mention it...That IS how Elvis 'the king" Presley met his demise, isn't it?

Highrise, that was awesomely well said and I can't think of a thing to add. Obviously you are doing your research and aren't willing to be spoonfed party rhetoric from anyone.

I don't know what Peter's problem is, but I hope he comes back and explains what he said...not the insult, but his seeming confidence in what Rudy says over what he has done. That's the intriguing part.

185 maddogg

Yes the name calling and some of the stupid comments if you say Rudy isn't the best candidate are uncalled for. I stand with you on this one. Let them call names and run around like a chicken little saying there is no hope for the Republican party unless it's Rudy. Talk about a version of a doomsdays cut and run attitude! I'd like the crystal ball they are viewing. We have time, if we were down to no time, then I'd take another look at my view.

186 Peter Verkooijen 4/26/2007 10:40:15 am PDT

It would be extremely short-sighted to make gun rights the defining issue of this election.

I can't take you seriously.

#190 Pajama Person

#183 Now that you mention it...That IS how Elvis 'the king" Presley met his demise, isn't it?

Yep. And I'd certainly prefer that to death by amorous horse.

#131 Sharmuta 4/26/2007 10:09:45 am PDT

That's a pretty old link, and that guy is dead. Sure that's still their plan? Besides, I don't think iran needs al qaeda's help in convincing the US that iran is a threat. You didn't buy into this meme, did you?

If that letter is legit, then it is a valuable insight into their strategy. It wasn't intended as propaganda for dissemination, nor is it wild assumptions made by a politician to back up a talking point that supports some agenda.

Peter Verkooijen

It would be extremely short-sighted to make gun rights the defining issue of this election.

I don't know about that...when I see how little a President can actually accomplish when he has to fight morons from his own country just as much as any outside enemy, it gets a little unnerving. If it gets to the point where citizens are going to have to defend themselves, I want more than a steak knife at my disposal.

In your post, you again emphasized that Rudy is only out to "convince" Republicans that he will behave. That's not really very reassuring -- he is after all a politician! That's his job. Kind of like a realtor -- talk, schmooze, convince, until the deal is closed.

Slightly O/T... but not really...
What the Hell is DENIS the MENICE thinking !?
...Isn't there a country to be run...
Lets get on with it...

[Link: kucinich.house.gov...]

#191 NiceLass
...
I don't know what Peter's problem is, but I hope he comes back and explains what he said...not the insult, but his seeming confidence in what Rudy says over what he has done. That's the intriguing part.

When either the Dems or the Republicans start arguing that they need to go back to their base and elect a real liberal or a real conservative, you know they're going to lose the elections.

Republicans already have the odds against them in the 2008 elections. The extreme left has hijacked the Dems, but they are very aware they have to run as moderates and the MSM will help paint them as the centrist option. It worked in the midterm elections.

And again, pay attention to the context of New York City politics that Giuliani has been in.

#69

Too stupid to live. At least he died achieving his life's goal.

#197 dewie

What the Hell is DENIS the MENICE thinking !?

I'm not sure he's capable of thinking.

#180 unreconstructed rebel

change from nationalist fascism to Islamofascism
There's a difference?

The difference is... how should I put this, one of nuance. The Baath party was originally a Pan-Arab Nationalist ideology. While not anti-religious, it was secular. When Saddam took control of the Iraqi Baath party, he added a Stalinist touch to his regime. After the Gulf War, Saddam turned to Islam, to bolster the slipping legitimacy of his regime, and to effect the means of revenge on America. He launched a mosque building campaign, including The Mother of All Battles Mosque . Pan -Arabism was out, "Islamic renewal" was in. Saddam organized a conference in Bagdhad attended by many of the leading figures in Islamic terrorism. It was at this conference that Saddam took a bowl of blood (he claimed it was his own, but he had no shortage of blood at his disposal), dipped a pen and wrote "Alluha Akbar" across the Iraqi flag.

We can debate how sincere was Saddams new found peity, but I think we can all agree he was more about the "death to infidels" interpretation of Islam, that the ROP hogwash.

#197 dewie

Slightly O/T... but not really...
What the Hell is DENIS the MENICE thinking !?

I'm not sure if is. Or if he's capable.

Synopsis of the articles of impeachment:

(1) We all knew that there were no WMDs in Iraq until Cheney made them up and convinced us otherwise - all evidence and testimony from other countries and every official in the Clinton Administration to the contrary.

(2) Cheney lied to us all about a non-existent relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda, which was the basis for the US invasion of Iraq.

(3) Cheney is saying mean things about Iran, who bear us no threat or ill will whatsoever.

None of these constitute an honest or rational basis for impeachment.

#196 NiceLass
... In your post, you again emphasized that Rudy is only out to "convince" Republicans that he will behave. That's not really very reassuring -- he is after all a politician! That's his job. Kind of like a realtor -- talk, schmooze, convince, until the deal is closed.

I've never seen any indication that gun control or legalized abortion is his real passion. He may need some education on those issues, but I don't think either of them is high on his priority list. It just seems weird to me to assume he's trying to become President just to take your guns away.

#73 Hot Rod Kid

*laughing*

Reminds me when my sister-in-law had a patient admitted to the hospital who had been arrested for child molestation. Big story in town. Well, he was handcuffed to a bed in her unit and needed a catheter...so she started with the largest tube size and had to work her way down to a small. Needless to say, she did all attempts with gusto.

#197 dewie

What the Hell is DENIS the MENICE thinking !?

#200 ChildOfMary

I'm not sure he's capable of thinking.

#202 JamesTKirk

I'm not sure if is. Or if he's capable.

You beat me to the punch while I was [wasting my time] reading Kucinich's retarded manifesto.

Peter

It just seems weird to me to assume he's trying to become President just to take your guns away.

No, no, that's putting the cart before the horse. I think he wants to defend the country and our freedom, I don't have any question about that and I think that's the main reason he's so popular.

I think the gun control issue is secondary but important because I don't think either party is capable of defending this country in this day and age of political correctness and the liberal mentality. I don't think Rudy agrees and I guess that would be because he's confident the govt can protect us. That's how I came to my conclusion about him.

#196 NiceLass
...when I see how little a President can actually accomplish when he has to fight morons from his own country just as much as any outside enemy

That btw is one of the reasons why I believe Giuliani is the right man at this time. Bush doesn't know how to deal with urban "liberals". He's way too nice. Giuliani knows! He's an urban street fighter. He's the only Republican that really scares the left. (Or maybe Gingrich if he were electable.)

#202 JamesTKirk

honest or rational

With Kukukucinich, that's assuming facts not in evidence.

#189 Murqtaad 4/26/2007 10:43:20 am PDT

Chen, go hang out with that fuckwit Treez at fearbush.com.

I bet you'd be surprised if I told you that lately I've noticed Treez a in agreement with most of you guys on a few issues. We've got pigs doing Mach 2 over there lol

I'll tell him you said hi though.

Re: Rudy and guns

I don't think anyone can seriously believe that Rudy is going to try to take away our guns if he is elected.

However, we don't know how much of a defense he can be expected to put up against those who are trying to control and confiscate firearms.

That should be the basis for discussion/concern, rather than "he'll take your guns!" "no, he won't!" There are plenty of people already trying to take away your guns. The question is how much progress they'll be able to make under a Guliani administration. (Obviously, the makeup of the Congress and Supreme Court play a huge part in this; the President cannot go either way on this issue alone.)

Furthermore, this issue can be looked at both in the absolute, and in relative terms: How much progress will the hoplophobes make under a Guliani administration as compared to how much progress they would make under other possible/likely administrations.

#207 Peter V -

You know, I had never viewed Rudy through that particular prism, but you know that is an excellent point.

As an addedum, I've never personally owned a gun; but I'm certainly considering it.

#212 JTK --

I own a 20 gauge - best purchase I've ever made.

#202 JamesTKirk

honest or rational

#208 Carolina Girl

With Kukukucinich, that's assuming facts not in evidence.

Nah, but it takes more than just one looney to make those articles actually go anywhere.

#213 Carolina Girl

I own a 20 gauge - best purchase I've ever made.

My phaser's on the fritz.

#215 JTK

Dayum, baby, you better call Mr. Scott!
(and please remember he can't change the laws of physics)

That's funny, I countered CHenZen's leftist memes but he completely ignored my post. I guess he must be off "improving" some other thread with his superior fact-resistant intellect.

Anyway, here's a funny story of geeks, sex & spys:
Horny Troops Succumb to Chinese Vamps

Japan has discovered a widespread Chinese effort to use sex to steal military technology. Attractive Chinese female intelligence agents are marrying members of the Japanese armed forces, and then using that access to obtain military secrets. The situation has been complicated by the military attempts to keep these "embarrassing incidents" secret. The government was particularly anxious to keep the Americans in the dark about all this, since the Chinese apparently got their hands on Aegis anti-aircraft system technology via their lady spies.

#217

That's funny, I countered CHenZen's leftist memes but he completely ignored my post. I guess he must be off "improving" some other thread with his superior fact-resistant intellect.

I know. Charles must feel honored.

Highrise and maddogg:

I share your concerns about Giuliani.

I sincerely hope, though, that the Republicans will nominate someone who will defend the GWOT, defend the Constitution (including the Second Amendment), and actually have a backbone and veto the bloated spending bills Congress keeps foisting on America.

I can check some of those check boxes for Rudy, but not all of them by any means.

Please keep up your critiques, some of us do respect them.

I wish Duncan Hunter were a major, rather than a minor Republican candidate, because I think he'd do a lot better than Giuliani overall down the line on the concerns I have above.

#210 JamesTKirk

However, we don't know how much of a defense he can be expected to put up against those who are trying to control and confiscate firearms.

The actual question is: How much will Mr. Giuliani aid and support those trying to confiscate our guns, not if he will put up a defence. Because there is NO track record of him giving a damn about guns, except for how to get rid of them. He supported lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the Brady group, and every type of gun control (read that confiscation) organization. All this can be verified with a simple web search.

BTW, I have pistols, shotguns, rifles, and two each "black rifles" that really give the guncontrollers an erection. And I even build them from scratch, so for me, it ain't a passing interest.

195 ChenZhen

If that letter is legit, then it is a valuable insight into their strategy.

Yes- the strategy that led to this.

/it's a winner!

#95 lawhawk:

if the jihadis were truly winning, why would they have to recruit 10 year olds to fight their wars? Where have all the men gone?

Actually, 10 year olds make fierce, quick, and cruel soldiers! Any school teacher knows that young boys love playing war and tormenting the enemy. There's an unlimited supply, they fight for free, they don't eat a lot, they don't clamor for sex, and they're fast learners. What's not to like?

Al-Qaeda and politicians have much in common.
They're all a bunch of liars, guess that's why socialists and muslims love eachother seeing both groups consists of liars.

There was this thing of birds and feathers.

#44 Ed Mah

I am just a bit curious what would make a man think he could have a horse phallus inserted in his rectum and not suffer serious or fatal injury.

Um. . .experience (not necessarily with horses).

A good friend of mine who is an orthopedic surgeon related a tale of removing a 20 ounce Snapple Ice tea bottle from the "wrong place" during a stint as ER surgeon on call.

The individual in question fully admitted being through the emergency room before for the same sort of problem, and described himself (proudly) as "the biggest Queen in Boston". So go figure.

Anyway, seems to me that in this scenario its the human who is being "abused", not the horse.

#69 #86

The story about Catherine the Great is almost certainly a hoax made by dissident Poles to discredit her after her death.

I also saw said horse video maybe 2 years back on the internet(can't remember where) and was wondering, not what possessed this guy to do it (that seems obvious), but rather what possessed him to VIDEOTAPE it. I don't know if the man widely reported to have died of this "abuse" was the same one depicted in the video (nor do I care).

I'd be a bit wary of trying to find it, since viewing might download a copy onto your computer, possibly running afoul of obscenity laws in whatever jurisdiction you viewed it in.

In terms of nether abuse, apart from the above mentioned Snapple story, I remember seeing a video several years back showing an adult man inserting his well-lubricated forearm literally up to his elbow. (After that, you'd think a horse would be a piece of cake).

There is a scene in the relatively mainstream movie "Cruising" with Al Pacino depicting "fisting". (Don't worry, the link is PG and only implies the action).

The point is, apparently things stretch out after a while, and if that is what you like, not only can you "take" more, you ultimately want more. (I am sure there is some vile analogy to be made here, but I won't do it).

#120 Beer drinking victory monkey

With due respect, I don't think Western civilization is going to decline and fall because a couple of whackos in the Pacific Northwest love equine sodomy. The only thing that's new about this is that now we have the internet to instantly spread video footage of it all over the world. The only thing that's going to go bust here is the NYT.

does anyone know of a country that is safe from these imbeciles?

The Treason Party will be hugging themselves with glee, seeing that they've pleased their Masters to such great effect! Well done, you guys! Good dhimmis, very good dhimmis indeed! Now, roll over, lick your own b*lls, and play dead!

Or better still, please BECOME dead, and as soon as possible, please.

Actually, I think the review of "Zoo" was anti-bestiality, until the obligatory last paragraph deriding Limbaugh, etc.
The author didn't want to alienate the New York Times' constituency of weirdos, idiots and loons.

#210 James T Kirk

As I mentioned in the last Giuliani thread, believing that Gore lost the presidential election over Gun Control (and no less than Bill Clinton himself has said this), the Dems are conspicuously scared to go there again. They know its a losing issue for them.

That's particularly true now, when election season is heating up, even after the massacre in Virginia.

The point is, if even the Democrats aren't going to endorse gun control now, no way is Giuliani going to waste his political capital on it. He is nothing, if not pragmatic, and its simply not going to be on his agenda.

Now, its certainly true that there are other Republicans who have better records on gun control than Giuliani. If that is your sole defining issue (and it is for some people), then what can I say. . .vote for someone else in the primaries in your state.

Romney isn't exactly a big gun nut, but he did sign legislation marginally improving MA's Draconian gun laws.

But whatever Giuliani's views on gun control, he's still likely to the right of ALL of the leading Democrats on that issue. If Giuliani wins the Republican nominationa, and you stay home and NOT vote for him on this issue to "send a message" you are going as close to tossing away your gun rights as you can.

# 159 Golem14
Thanks!

The Muslims don't listen to what Harry Reid says, right? At least that's what I've seen on lefty websites.

Water seeks its own level! The Democrats and the Islamic killers who would destroy us all have so much in common.

Harry Reid has got to go and take Pelosi with him!

Compared to the supreme sacrifices being made by our fighting forces daily in Iraq and Afganistan, other loyal Americans should have little problem making this sacrifice to punish Reid, the war enemy:

NEVER SET FOOT IN NEVADA AGAIN.

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, I-CT, delivered this speech in the Senate as that body considered passing a bill setting a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq.

This about sums it up!