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Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:41:36 am PDT

At Solomonia, Arnold Roth, whose daughter Malki was one of 15 murdered by Palestinian terrorists in the horrific Sbarro Pizzeria bombing in August 2001, responds to a particularly despicable New York Times whitewash: ’That female is our child’s murderer’.

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1 jcm  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:44:02am

Hooray for Arnold Roth.

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:44:56am

To leftists, like writers at the nyt, you poor child is merely collateral damage wrought by a "freedom fighter".

You have my deepest sympathies, Mr. Roth.

3 get2djnow  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:45:48am

The times is a rag. Why would anyone give a positive spin on a murderess? Because the people murdered aren't considered human, so there's no point on dwelling on the victims.

My heart and prayers go out to the families of the victims.

May the perps be cursed and their family lines ended.

4 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:46:06am

your poor child. Sorry.

5 Squirrelguy  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:47:21am

Bah, Israel needs Capitol Punishment. If they have it, they need to use it.
16 life sentences? That is a slap in the face to the other 15 that died.

6 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:47:39am

The nyt makes me almost as ill as FGM.

7 pat  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:47:44am

Dead Jews have never bothered the NYTs. Nor dead Catholics nor Ukrainians. These groups do not rise to the level of victims.

8 SpringheelJack  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:48:09am

From the article:

And remind them of what the woman in the Israeli prison - the woman smiling so happily in the New York Times - said last year. "I'm not sorry for what I did. We'll become free from the occupation and then I will be free from prison."


A strong argument for the death penalty for such evil. She may be right. She might get released in some future deal

9 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:48:25am

Silly Americans. Everybody knows that Jews aren't people!

/the unspoken law of modern journalism

10 jcr  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:48:50am

So, why is HBO trying to make that vicious, murdering little **** into some kind of hero? Do they imagine that this will sell to American audiences?

-jcr

11 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:48:59am
12 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:50:13am

Has anyone ever said or tried to hold the NY Times responsible for all the The despicable things they do? That would be GREAT NEWS!

13 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:50:32am
"I'm not sorry for what I did. We'll become free from the occupation and then I will be free from prison."

And then you'll be "free" to live a relatively short life of dust, dirt, rot, oppression, and eventual oblivion. Congratulations! It sure was worth it! Way to make the world a better place!

ayiyi.

14 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:50:41am

This is the NYT we're talking about here. The same paper that had no problem running an op-ed from a Hamas shill and only had second thoughts when they found out that the WaPo was running a similar op-ed from the same terrorist.

They wouldn't bother to check their own archives on the matter to realize what is going on here, and HBO has no problem dolling up a convicted mass murdering terrorist. Lovely stuff.

15 dentate  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:51:38am

I put this on the open thread yesterday, but I am glad to see it as its own thread here today. Heartbreaking.

16 Peacekeeper  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:51:52am

I doubt that they paused two seconds to consider whose face they were using. More's the pity.

17 bulwrk  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:52:29am

I haven't had a drink in 10yrs but the day the NYT shuts it's doors for good I'm going to get lit.

18 missouri boy  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:52:49am

F*ck the NYTs

And they wonder why the subscription count continues to decline.

19 Bob in Breckenridge  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:53:10am

"I'm not sorry for what I did. We'll become free from the occupation and then I will be free from prison."

Even if that were to come true, and it won't, you will be judged for what you did, and it won't be by your non-existent fake god allah (pig piss be upon her), but by the real God. You will burn in hell for eternity along with the other extremest followers of your gutter religion, you despicable POS. I'd love to smack that smile off your face...

20 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:54:20am

#17 bulwrk


I'm buying,

21 jcr  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:54:44am

"non-existent fake god "

Bob, all gods are non-existent.

-jcr

22 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:55:43am
23 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 10:59:58am

The murdering muslims are sooo stupid that they cannot see the train coming at them that will eventually run over them, savages!

24 Bob Tail  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:02:15am

Farfour Mouse dies in last episode

Hamas TV on Friday broadcast what it said was the last episode of a weekly children's show featuring "Farfour," a Mickey Mouse look-alike who had made worldwide headlines for preaching Islamic domination and armed struggle to youngsters.

In the final skit, Farfour was beaten to death by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour's land. At one point, Farfour called the Israeli a "terrorist."

"Farfour was martyred while defending his land," said Sara, the teen presenter. He was killed "by the killers of children," she added.

The weekly show, featuring a giant black-and-white rodent with a high-pitched voice, had attracted worldwide attention because the character urged Palestinian children to fight Israel. It was broadcast on Hamas-affiliated Al-Aksa TV.

Station officials said Friday that Farfour was taken off the air to make room for new programs.

Station manager Mohammed Bilal said he didn't know yet what would be shown instead.

Israeli officials have denounced the program, "Tomorrow's Pioneers," as incendiary and outrageous. The program was also opposed by the state-run Palestinian Broadcasting Corporation, which is controlled by Fatah.

25 Tracy_p  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:03:43am

#17

7 years here won't get lit but will have one with you.

26 harley2002  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:05:18am

I hate the New York Times.

27 ronaldusmagnus  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:06:25am

Not defending NYT here by any stretch - but is that their photo? It appears to be a promo "head shot" furnished by HBO. Same photo is found at the HBO website in the pages highlighting this documentary. Either way, the photo belies the fact that this abomination is an unrepentant murderer.

Did HBO show a smiling glamour shot of any other murderers whose doings they have memorialized in film?

28 markx  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:07:07am

If anyone here subscribes to NYT or HBO, I hope you remember this child next time you write your check.

29 ciaospirit  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:07:34am

Heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking. Followed by disgust. Followed by anger. Followed by my vow to never give up the fight.

30 Logic Probe  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:07:47am

I read dentate's posting of this yesterday. Even more sickening is the thought that, for many people, the NYT IS the news, and their world view is shaped by it. Disheartening but true.

31 Tricky Dick  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:08:21am

Sooner or later this murdering hag will end up burning in hell along side the pedophile founder of the death cult she worships.

Inspired By Islam (What the most famous cleric has to say):

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 :

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK.

32 lefty201  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:08:45am

This makes me very sad. I too lost a daughter, but not because of these circumstances. My child was killed in a car wreck a bit over 8 years ago. I promised myself that the man who killed her would face HELL if he had even an ounce of alcohol in his system. I was going to move heaven and hell to get as close as I could to him in prison and then rip his arms out of the sockets. I cannot imagine how much more hatred I would have felt knowing that my child was murdered by some fanatic, and then I saw her smiling face on some RAG from the united states. To not even be sorry for what she did, no compassion at all for murdering a 15 year old child, and 14 others. That's not a crime, that's a sin against humanity.

The man who killed my child was not drunk, still doesn't bring back my baby.

33 kreigwagon  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:09:15am

#2

To leftists, like writers at the nyt, you poor child is merely collateral damage wrought by a "freedom fighter".

Agreed. Remember it is FAIR AND BALANCED

We shouldn't question their reporting/representation at all. We are all supposed buy it hook, line and sinker.

34 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:09:33am
35 IngisKahn  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:10:01am

Ug, I'm not looking forward to having them as a customer again.

36 Logic Probe  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:10:56am

#27 ronaldusmagnus

Good point, and just another reason to avoid HBO. Every time I tried to watch HBO I was reminded that that's why they call TV "programming". Such propaganda.

37 bulwrk  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:11:47am

#20 BODYGAURDEAGLE I'll get the first round


#25 Tracy_p hopefully soon

38 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:13:03am

You guys might want to rethink what you buy that is "made in China" it's time to bring those a**holes to their knees!

39 MoonbatBane  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:14:48am

The comments on that link unfortunately are dominated by a useless waste of flesh that calls itself "Joachim Martillo." Not going to post what the scumbag says, but it's enough to make your blood boil.

Anyone know the site admin? This asshat's posts need to be deleted.

40 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:14:55am
41 daledog  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:15:58am

If this woman was seen walking down the street in everytown, USA you would think nothing of her. She indeed looks harmless and sweet. That is the absolute danger of islam. It corrupts the heart, mind, and soul so completely that smiles and smooth words are nothing more than tactics for murder. Are we better off resigning ourselves to the idea that every muslim is a Manchurian Candidate?

42 looking closely  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:16:20am

#24 Bob Tail

It wasn't Zionist Israelis that killed the Evil Palestinian Rat Farfour, but rather the outraged international public.

43 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:17:25am

I suppose they could also do a sepia-toned, wistful retrospective about the life of Josef Mengele. He loved gardening, he was kind to pets, etc.

44 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:18:42am

#24 Bob Tail:

In the final skit, Farfour was beaten to death by... an Israeli official

Funny, that's the same series finale *I* would have written! 'Cept it would have been more of a "snuff" kind of film.

45 SonOfLiberty  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:20:11am

#38 'Nam

I absolutely, wholeheartedly agree with you on this point.

46 MrMom  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:20:17am

#10 jcr

There are virtually no situations where I find the use of c_ _ _ acceptable. I think you found one.

47 humanity  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:20:20am

Leftist just reach the lowest Ground..

48 rabidsquirrel  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:20:57am

For the benefit of the writer of that horrid NYT article...

From American Heritage Dictionary:

vic·tim:
–noun
1. One who is harmed or killed by another: a victim of a mugging.


ter·ror·ist
-noun
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

Got it, NYT? Good. Now repeat after me: "I wear the tinfoil hat; it doesn't wear me".

49 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:21:57am

My snuff Farfour series finale would have starred this "Israeli official".

50 gop_patriot  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:22:09am

It's sickening to look at this pretty face, and think of the evil that lies behind it- but it's even more vile that HBO would give this beast an outlet for her to speak.

The people that she killed aren't able to , HBO, why don't you give THEM a voice instead of their MURDERERS?

Sick.

51 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:22:10am

#42 looking closely:

No. You have it wrong. Global warming did it.

But when you look closer, since the US is to blame for the bulk of all greenhouse gases (both that which are produced in the US, or consumed by US consumers from purchases elsewhere - China for example), then it is our fault. /sarc

52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:24:09am
"I'm not sorry for what I did. We'll become free from the occupation and then I will be free from prison."

Seriously, this "woman" should have been executed.

53 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:25:17am

#43 Occasional Reader

I suppose they could also do a sepia-toned, wistful retrospective about the life of Josef Mengele. He loved gardening, he was kind to pets, etc.

I had a class in art school with a relative of his.

Let's just say he was evidence for the idea that "Disturbed" is in the genes. Creepy guy... Army vet who played RPG's intently in his 30s. Crumbling marriage to an unhealthy woman. Admitted he was related to Mengele... Just... Yeah. Not a healthy guy. Looking now at the photos of Mengele in Wikipedia, I see that they even looked alike. I can easily imagine what Mengele the person was actually like.

54 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:25:45am
55 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:26:13am

I see that the sweet child who was murdered had a soft spot in her heart for mentally and physically disabled children, as a result of having a handicapped sibling.

Bless her in the halls of heaven, dear Lord.

(today would have been my brother's birthday. Too handicapped to live here on earth, he now sits at the feet of the Good Shepherd. Maybe he knows Malki. She looks like she would be real nice to him. Happy Birthday Eric)

56 MrMom  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:27:28am

"I'm not sorry for what I did. We'll become free from the occupation and then I will be free from prison."


I believe she seriously underestimates her foe.

57 Squirrelguy  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:28:14am
#41 daledog

Are we better off resigning ourselves to the idea that every muslim is a Manchurian Candidate?

Already have. Until proven otherwise. Sorry, just going by their rulebook.

58 gop_patriot  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:29:34am
#24 Bob Tail 6/29/2007 11:02:15 am PDT
Farfour Mouse dies in last episode

In the final skit, Farfour was beaten to death by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour's land. At one point, Farfour called the Israeli a "terrorist."

"Farfour was martyred while defending his land," said Sara, the teen presenter. He was killed "by the killers of children," she added.


Oh my gosh. That is just sick, beating to death a beloved children's character (no matter how twisted, you know the kids liked the mouse) to whip up their hatred of Jewish people and Israel.

WHAT is wrong with the world, that they cannot see this is how most muslims in the M.E. think? This isn't one or two crazy people- they almost ALL think this way!

It's so over the top, that when I tell friends things I've learned like this, they say "oh I'm sure that's an exaggeration", or "oh, I don't know about that"...
These, of course, are the same friends who don't like to watch the news because it's "depressing" and they don't like politics.
Sadly there are too many of these kinds around, that won't believe until it's too late that we are at war with radical crazies who want us dead.

59 SueG  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:30:45am

Amazing saying Keren Malki had written on her phone: Assur ledaber lashon harah (it is improper to speak ill of other people) - while her murderer just continues speaking ill of her and others (still alive) from her jail in Israel. That's disgusting.

60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:30:59am

OT

Islamic Rage Boy Parody Roundup

My favorite: "I JUST MADE POOP!"

61 SonOfLiberty  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:31:21am

Clearly the jooos fault. Just like Pearl Harbor.

/MSM

62 vxbush  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:31:27am

32 lefty201

I am so sorry to hear what happened. I almost lost a son as a result of a car accident. Instead, he's severely disabled with severe traumatic brain injury and lots of limited abilities.

But I don't hate the other driver. I pity her, and if I met her I would say I forgive her. But she's never given me that option, and I don't want to make her uncomfortable by calling her. I'm afraid she would assume the worst if I contacted her.

Hate can easily consume you. Be careful how long you hold on to it. See as exhibit A what's going on in the Arab countries.

63 Bob Tail  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:32:19am
#44 Occasional Reader 6/29/2007 11:18:42 am PDT

#24 Bob Tail:

In the final skit, Farfour was beaten to death by... an Israeli official

Funny, that's the same series finale *I* would have written! 'Cept it would have been more of a "snuff" kind of film.

Ccasional Reader, Maybe he simply died of Aids as the Arafish?

64 Logic Probe  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:32:49am

OT reply to
#46 MrMom

I don't know why folks get into such a dither about the word "****". As an anatomical name it is concise and accurate, with a long history of use, and when applied to a person, no worse, to me, than calling a man a dick.

As for having a use for it, back when PIN's were just four digits, mine was often 2868. I could just spell it out on the 'phone, if I forgot my PIN. Who could forget ****?

Back to lurking.

65 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:33:41am

Having read the article, I assume 'that female' was said by Mr. Roth with the deepest contempt a voice is able to convey. She is female by gender only : She has none of the excellent qualities I have found in real womanhood.

#32 Lefty201
The pain of your loss is clearly still very raw. I am sure that I was not the only Lizard touched by your story, and also not the only Lizard offering you our deepest condolences.

66 Bob Tail  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:34:25am
#42 looking closely 6/29/2007 11:16:20 am PDT

#24 Bob Tail

It wasn't Zionist Israelis that killed the Evil Palestinian Rat Farfour, but rather the outraged international public.

Looking closely,

At least this mouse has 72 virgins by now ...

67 Resistance Girl  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:34:40am

Lefty 201,

You're part of the club no one wants to belong to also?

I am too. I have lost a child.

My heart goes out to Malki's parents. Unimaginable pain.

68 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:34:48am

#62 vxbush

I don't want to make her uncomfortable by calling her. I'm afraid she would assume the worst if I contacted her.

I bet you would release her from a prison of guilt. What a gift that would be. The definition of grace and mercy.

69 Hard Right  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:35:39am

HBO

Heavilly
Biased
Opinion

HBO loves murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc. It's never seen any of them as monstrous enough to be unworthy of portraying as victims.

70 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:36:25am

I don't know if I could stand up and breathe any longer if I lost one of my children. I don't know how you all do it.

My heart breaks for those of you who have had this tragedy in your live. Please know that.

71 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:36:28am

So sad, this surreal time we into which we are placed.

Living, from cradle to grave, in a Muslim land is a Twilight Zone Hell, and you don't even know just how, as a fish doesn't know it's wet. For Israel's children, another Twilight Zone Hell, where you grow up in a world which is blind and deluded, blind to reason, deluded by the Serpent.

So sad that the world is blind and deluded.

God Bless Charles and LGF's core, may He (God. :))continue to open people's eyes, and to keep us all from ever becoming blind and deluded.

-Taq

72 Bob Tail  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:36:56am
#58 gop_patriot 6/29/2007 11:29:34 am PDT


It's so over the top, that when I tell friends things I've learned like this, they say "oh I'm sure that's an exaggeration", or "oh, I don't know about that"...
These, of course, are the same friends who don't like to watch the news because it's "depressing" and they don't like politics.

gop_patriot, you seem to hang around with too many dems. Quit it, it's a bad habit.

73 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:40:43am

OT - but somewhat related...

For those of you living in Israel, or who know about such things -

Little Winger wants to know if you have to be Jewish or a citizen of Israel to fight in the IDF. He has become very upset with the attacks on Israel by the muslims. Just thinking at this stage ...

74 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:41:14am

Bob Tail

Sometimes we have no choice, as the people we love are wonderful, caring, loving, hardworking people who happen to have been blinded and deluded politically. It's not a habit, it's life.

75 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:42:26am

As Lileks wrote four years ago, after a Tel Aviv bombing that killed 20 and wounded more than 100 (and drew the usual Palis-dancing-in-the-streets celebration):


If I turned on the TV and I saw people celebrating the car wreck that killed my daughter, I think I would go mad. I think I would claw my eyes until everything was red. I would want to call down hell on their heads.

Every time I think I’ve had it I find that there are still a few jots of sympathy left - and by “sympathy” I mean that last weary civilized impulse that makes you stay the hand of your inner beserker. I don’t think I’m alone in this. It doesn’t mean there’s now a vast angry mass advocating for the immolation of those who want to scour the earth clean of Jews. No. But before I didn’t care what happened to the people in the organizations that arrange these attacks. Now I don’t care about what happens to the culture that permits it. Approves of it. Defends it, sanctions it, shelters it, sings it praises, names streets after the men who do it. I’m done. I don’t want to hear the word “but” in any sentence uttered by a PLO / Fatah / Al Aqsa / Hamaz / Hezbollah apologist. I don’t want to hear the phrase “cycle of violence” used outside the context of a gang fight at the Tour De France.

I never want to see Arafat asking for anything anywhere any more. I don’t want to see people on the West Bank cheering as clumsy Scuds lumber over their heads in February, because I know they’ll head to Israeli hospitals when the germs hit them, and I know they’ll be admitted for treatment.

I’m not saying I wish them ill. But the line of people I care about now is very, very long. The apologists and supporters of the bombers can get behind the 100 wounded I never met. The 20 who died. The one who was the child of a father my age. And when it’s their turn to ask for my sympathy, I’ll probably point to the line with 3000 New Yorkers, and kindly request that they head to the back.

76 Maine's Michael  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:45:23am

The dripping hatred in some of the posts at solomonia is very depressing.

It's only crudely camouflaged as 'anti-zionism' as a result of 'land theft'.

The evil of Jew hatred gathers strength, pulls itself erect, and walks the earth again.

77 Tumulus11  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:45:44am

'These enemies know each other absurdly well. They learn from each other, and talk openly about doing so. Yet they can’t seem to break the cycle: a cat and mouse addicted to their own game.'
// Neil Genzlinger, New York Times

. Self defense is futile, submission is inevitable and a daily slug of moral equivalence will make it all easier to stomach.
// The New York Times - First to Dhimmify, Last to Die.

78 Bob's Kid  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:45:44am

This is very powerful, isn't it? My heart goes out to the family and they have my highest respect for speaking out like this.

79 Resistance Girl  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:46:15am

It's just what you think it would be like, Mama Winger.

It's bad.

May G-d himself protect her parents as they deal with fresh injury added by having to deal with this further hurt.

G-d bless the memory of innocent Malki.

80 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:47:29am

#79 Resistance Girl


{ hugs } to you and prayers as well. I can't even imagine. I would crumble, and you sound so strong.

81 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:47:50am

This isn't the first time that HBO has done a glossy on a serial killer, mass murderer or other sociopath/psychopath.

82 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:48:52am

I'm not Jewish nor Israeli, but if they could hang Eichmann, why can't they hang this woman? Both facilitated the death of people, Jewish people at that, the only difference was in numbers.


If this woman could have helped to kill as many Jews as Eichmann helped to kill, I'm sure she would have.

83 merkava IV  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:49:00am

The left would like to have you think that there is no reason for Palestinian children and women to be in jails, but I think this proves that Palestinian depravity has no limits.

84 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:49:14am
85 opnion  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:49:17am

I got it!This was all created by global warming which is nothing but a plot by Jews and their Amrerican enabelers.
Yeah thats it. See the temperature spike causes Palistinian youts to do unIslamic stuff that they would never do otherwise.
Its all clear to me now. These Youts should all get set free , cash damages and a Z Visa from Jorge Booosh.
It's only fair

86 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:49:44am

Farfour dies on a TV show meant for kids. Yeah, a depraved end to that whole depraved mess.

87 shoeless  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:50:04am

finish building the walls, close them in together and let them kill each other off completely... just like gaza...

88 mama winger  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:50:05am

#81 lawhawk

This isn't the first time that HBO has done a glossy on a serial killer, mass murderer or other sociopath/psychopath.

Since the 60's (maybe longer but I'm not that old) there seems to me a concerted effort has been made to make us immune to the horrors of this world, and accept them, 'understand' them, and even exalt them as perfectly normal and reasonable.

what is this madness ?

89 Resistance Girl  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:51:33am

Thank you, MW.

I am not strong. You just keep breathing even though you don't want to and there are others to take care of.

90 Ron(Ron)  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:53:14am

From hbo.com:

The cold-blooded testimony of a female Hamas leader, proudly serving 16 life sentences for blowing up a pizzeria in Jerusalem, is perhaps the most chilling.

I don't know if that makes any difference. I'm not going to see this. What's the point of smelling shit; you know what it smells like already.

It is a shame that Israel doesn't have the death penalty. All of them should be shot.

91 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:53:56am

#84 IF: Yep, I guess I'm not as nice as Lileks, either.

It was more the image he presents that I wanted to point out; what if, not only did you have to deal with losing your child, you had to deal with seeing people on t.v. cheering the murder of your child?

The Israelis are a nation of frickkin' saints for not having unleashed absolute hell on the Palestinians a long time ago. (And in this context, I'm not saying that being a saint is necessarily a good thing.)

92 samsgran1948  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:54:22am

Executing this "female" would be a big mistake; it would make her a shahid, a martyr for the sake of Allah. Just let her rot away in prison and die a natural death. She'll go to the grave knowing she is not a shahid, but just another Arab female, the lowest form of life in her culture.

93 Bob Tail  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:54:39am
#74 Taqiyyotomist 6/29/2007 11:41:14 am PDT

Bob Tail

Sometimes we have no choice, as the people we love are wonderful, caring, loving, hardworking people who happen to have been blinded and deluded politically. It's not a habit, it's life.

Taqiyyotomist, tell me about it - my sister in law works for Amnesty International. Anyway, I don't like her. Take a tip from me: don't make a compromises!

94 lefty201  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:55:00am

It's hard to explain the horror of losing a child when you have never lost one, But to lose your child to some fanatic whose only motivation is hatred is something I would never be able to deal with. My heart goes out to the families of these innocents. I brushed away tears at the picture of the child playing a flute. I think as a parent I would literally go insane from the rage. VX and resistance, you understand a pain that many will hopefully never have to go through. My heart goes out to each of you. It took many years to recover from one night of hell. so many never recover at all.

95 amrilusaguy  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:55:03am

#82 Ed Mahmoud

Israel has the death penalty on the books but does not use it except in exceptional, international cases, like Eichman.

The polical leadership is afraid that the world will cry racist and genocide etc etc

96 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:00:04pm

71 Taqiyyotomist

Living, from cradle to grave, in a Muslim land is a Twilight Zone Hell, and you don't even know just how, as a fish doesn't know it's wet.

This is what finally made me understand why people say they feel "blessed" to live here.

The plain truth is that we here in the U.S. enjoy levels of health, comfort, security, civil society, equality before law, and material wealth that boggle the mind. Dreams are possible here.

Imagine being born as a woman in Saudi Arabia or a military-aged male in Iran. Imagine living in some dusty Al Quedaban-controlled valley in Waziristan. Imagine being in a prison for your mind, and having no way out, not knowing you were in the Matrix, and the only guidebook for how to deal with things is the f-cking Koran.

It's a bit like learning about North Korea for the first time. Millions of people are imprisoned on Planet Kim-Jong Il, and yet they'd fanatically fight and die for this massive, monstrous lie they've been sold, a lie programmed into them about the very nature of the universe, a lie they'll believe every waking second of their short, unhealthy lives.

And yet here we sit, comfortable, secure, with a whole world of dissent and argument and opinion and fact and information at our fingertips.

It gives one pause.

97 merkava IV  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:00:21pm

#92 samsgran1948

I agree. The Palestinian death cult seems to want nothing but a one-way ticket to Allah, so why give it to them? Just let them rot alive in prison. The people who REALLY deserve it are whacked by the army.

98 TMF  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:00:23pm

I think it's important to see her smiling face.

What better image of complete, utter depravity and moral emptiness than the monkey-like grin of a female palisitnian murderer?

99 Maine's Michael  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:04:16pm

I don't understand why there isn't more vigilante justice in Israel.

If someone had harmed, never mind killed, my child, I would seek out every person who passed out sweets in celebration and terminate them with extreme prejudice.

I am Jewsish myself, and I think there is some root faith in humanity or the sanctity of life, even of your enemies, that has not served the Jewish people well.

No one wants the Jews to be a 'light unto the nations'. Indeed, it is the glare of that light that causes Jew hatred, in part.

100 JustTanya  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:07:42pm

96 Pawn of the Oppressor

Well said, thank you.

101 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:08:08pm
102 gedalia  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:18:57pm

While I once was an avid reader of the Grey Lady, I never buy it now. I even mail back any postage paid envelopes they send me (empty) or postcards I come across to hasten the day of their eventual bankruptcy.

Regarding the terrorists, we will never forgive, forget or understand

103 Kulhwch  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:43:31pm

    I wonder if it's still possible to get someone shivved for a couple of packs of smokes and a bottle of vodka in the joint?

    Oh, that poor child, killed by child murderers ...

}:(     [So much for ever subscribing to HBO again ... ]

104 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 12:49:07pm

This "female" is reason enough that Israel should institute the death penalty. She should be made to pay for her crimes. I've seen the information about Malki before; very, very sad.

105 Hard Right  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 1:01:33pm

Execute her then bury her with slaughtered pigs. BTW, do the women get 72 virgins?

106 merkava IV  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 1:31:40pm

#105 Hard Right

Yeah, I wonder that too. Somehow I doubt they'd want 72 male virgins.

107 acacia  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 2:00:05pm

A religion of death is not a religion. The simple pleasures of daily living are a right all people of the world should enjoy in peace. Our hearts go out to the Roth family.

108 Promethea  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 2:10:30pm

#88 mama winger . . .

Since the 60's (maybe longer but I'm not that old) there seems to me a concerted effort has been made to make us immune to the horrors of this world, and accept them, 'understand' them, and even exalt them as perfectly normal and reasonable.

Today I went to a photography exhibit at the Art Institute of Chicago, which featured giant photos by Jeff Wall, someone I had never heard of before. There were three or four photos that were effective, but the rest were based on the concept of "the bigger the grunge look, the more arty I am."

Among the photos were a man lying drunk under a kitchen table and several unkempt people picnicking in a garbage-strewn area. I could describe others, but you get my drift.

My thoughts while viewing this exhibit were (1) how much of this photographer's fame is due to the size of his photos (easily achieved by having them printed at a commercial lab, and (2) how few of the photos showed real technical ability and artistic clarity.

OK, I'm rambling and ranting now, but my point is that "there seems to me a concerted effort has been made to make us immune to the horrors of this world..." and current art curators often seem to be bent on destroying our ability to tell good art from narcississtic natterings using a big canvas.

Ironically, in contrast, there was an excellent show devoted to medieval Persian ceramics, with many fine pieces done by artists who cared about their craft.

/End rant

109 saltmarsh  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 2:16:29pm

There is evil in the world and this woman gives it a human face.

This is the result of the lies spoonfed to their children.

This is the result of their senseless and unending hatred of the Jewish people.

This is why the ones who call themselves "Palestinian" will never know peace in this life.

The fires of hell will welcome them.

The world will be a better place after they are gone.

110 McNug  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 2:31:33pm

I admire Mr. Roth because he must have a LOT of faith in the goodness of humanity if he is making this eloquent appeal to decency. I know I wouldn't: if I had been through what his family has, I would probably [preemptively deleted].

111 cookielady  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 3:12:52pm

#70 mama winger

I don't know if I could stand up and breathe any longer if I lost one of my children.

For a while you can't... :-(

May God comfort all who mourn...

112 Noman  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 3:40:35pm

I am amazed by the restraint shown by Israelis and the Jewish people toward vile enemies like this muderous bitch as well as the German Nazis (only Eichmann was hung). They are better people than I am. I just hope this goodness doesn't get them killed.

113 daledog  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 3:48:50pm

I've been staring at her picture for while now. I believe it is immoral not to hang her. Had she been hung a while ago, nobody would looking at her smirk right now. It is hard to believe she is human, that she belongs to the same species as those of us who value life.

114 Render  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 4:49:03pm

In reference to #39 Moonbatbane...

Lizards should googlesearch the name "Joachim Martillo,"

We've seen it before in various threads and comments.

It lives in the Boston area, from where it provides a solid internet linkage between the neo-nazis and the Islamic terrorist supporters.

The entire city of Boston should divest from this guy and his equally hateful wife.

GET
OUT,
R

115 gop_patriot  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 4:56:31pm
#72 Bob Tail 6/29/2007 11:36:56 am PDT

gop_patriot, you seem to hang around with too many dems. Quit it, it's a bad habit.

LOL! Funnily enough, they are very conservative, and vote that way at every election (or so they say). They do study the candidates carefully, and get to know who's running for office locally, and in state and national elections.

BUT, that's the extent of their political knowledge; which is really irritating.

They aren't interested in international politics, even when I tell them that what happens "over there" will always eventually impact us here in the U.S. in one way or another.

I believe that they don't want to know that people are so badly treated in other parts of the world, it makes them sad and they feel like they can't do anything about it. Not *quite* the "head-in-the-sand" syndrome... but very close. :/

116 drj  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 5:16:10pm

the NYT are Unfreakin believable!

Hmm..I wonder if the "fairness doctrine" would have permitted Mr. Roth's letter to be printed next to this disgusting article?

117 drj  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 5:17:22pm

On the fairness doctrine...

I liken it to forcing Pepsi to sell three coca cola's in every 6 pack..

Actually, since Air America is a failure, it's more like, forcing Pepsi to sell three of coca cola's failing brands, in every 6 pack.

118 Byzantium  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 6:55:17pm

i haven't even looked at the cover of an abandoned copy of the NYT left in the subway for years. Now I know why.

119 Bay54  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 7:29:36pm

Jews and Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and innocent Muslims killed in the name of Allah just don't seem to matter.
Just as in the early years of WWII -it will come back to haunt and hurt those today who will not recognize the true enemy.

120 gardenia  Fri, Jun 29, 2007 8:37:23pm

It's already started, and it may take some more time, but the NYT is dying a slow death. The only cure is for them to drag themselves, heaving, huffing and puffing, into at least the center. But as they won't, the inevitable will happen eventually.

121 fran2  Sat, Jun 30, 2007 12:50:09pm

Enough talking. I just made a donation to the fund which the Roth's set up to remember their murdered daughter's life. They created one of the most effective charities I've come across. Helping Israeli children (Jews, Arabs, other) get therapy care at home for severe disabilities. Go there now.


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