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 RetweetFrench Cabinet Minister is a Troofer

Thu, Jul 5, 2007 at 10:32:25 am PDT

LGF reader csk emails about a story that hasn’t hit the English media yet, as a member of French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s cabinet is revealed as a Troofer:

Italy’s leading newspaper Corriere della Sera discloses today on its website that Christine Boutin, a French politician who is a member of Sarkozy’s cabinet, said during the electoral campaign that Bush might have been responsible for the September 11 terrorist attacks. Her exact words on the journalist’s question is: “Je pense que c’est possible” (i.e. “I think it is possible.”).

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

Here’s the article in Italian: Ministro Francia: ‘Bush dietro attentati 11/9’ - Corriere della Sera.

And here’s a video clip featuring Christine Boutin, proudly posted by a French 9/11 Troof cult: Video Sarkozy Contre Bush ? Boutin 11 septembre - reopen, 911, 11, sarkozy, attentats.

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1 wrathofasma  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:37:37am

Who's on first?

What the hell is Sarkozy thinking?

2 MrMom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:37:38am

sigh...and another angel gets its wings.

3 oilbertan  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:37:52am

Typical Fwench attiitude towards Dubya and Amerikka. She should just stfu and try to turn her own country around.

4 mrrogers  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:38:49am

Shouldn't it be Twoof?

5 BuddyG  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:39:17am

Le Pew !

Sarkozy best do some house-cleaning.

6 MrMom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:39:22am

I thank God every day for Charles and the lizard nation because...
the rest of the world has gone effin' mad.

7 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:39:22am

I swear to tell the troof
the whole troof
and nothing but...

8 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:39:34am

I wonder if this politician would say/think the same thing if there weren't millions of unassimilated, disaffected "youths" surrounding Paris.

9 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:40:37am
10 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:09am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

I knew it! I knew it!

11 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:29am

Cheese eating surrender monkey indeed.

12 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:43am

It's not that surprising, given that the first of the troofers was a Frenchman, Thierry Meyssan, who continues to push the ravings that something other than a plane hit the Pentagon.

From there, it goes downhill.

13 rappmandu  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:49am

Frankly, I find her assertion gaulling.

(You may groan now.)

14 bryantms  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:51am

re: #1 wrathofasma

Who's on first?
What the hell is Sarkozy thinking?

Who's on first is right...

Call it by any other name, I don't buy that Sarkozy will have "sweeping reforms" in the French government. It's hard to change a way of life - a culture if you will - as one person. The whole country needs to take that step and from what we've seen in the past, things never end up well.

Just a thought...

15 vxbush  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:41:59am

This isn't surprising. I could actually see members of the State department being a troofer, the truth be told.

I hope I'm wrong, but I could see there would be at least one.

16 allah this  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:42:38am

Viva la troof!

17 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:42:53am

With this attitude we are all doomed. Start studying up you Sharia law now Frenchie, 'cause you're dust...

18 ROPMA  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:43:02am

.

19 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:43:32am
An American is the born enemy of all European peoples

-Piere Adet

20 AG in Houston  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:43:41am

How can such smart people in high positions believe such horse crap?

21 Tricky Dick  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:44:08am
22 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:44:51am

re: #20 AG in Houston

smart people

/allegedly?

23 joncelli  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:45:03am

Lawhawk, beat me to it (I'm still figuring out the interface). For what it's worth, here's a link from NRO about that very subject.

24 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:45:58am

The website is clicked a lot.

Well, can't argue with that logic.

25 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:46:00am

re: #13 rappmandu

Funny. Silly ... but funny

26 BuddyG  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:46:45am

But, but, but... Rosie says fire doesn't melt steel. Right ?

Wrong

27 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:46:57am

re: #20 AG in Houston

Smart people DONT

28 realwest  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:46:58am

With this statement, she goes on to prove that she is a student of the French educational system:
"She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it."
Which is not really surprising since the last time I checked (the statistics, NOT the websites!) the most frequently visited sites on the internet are Porn sites.
Ya just gotta love the French; every time things get kinda grim, you can count on them for laughs!

29 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:47:23am

Oh, and for a near complete rundown on the troofer theories and related stuff, see wiki. Of course, as everyone here knows, once you're a troofer, you can mix and match your conspiracy theories any way you like, so long as facts and logic are not needed.

30 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:48:05am

Nobodyyy would ever put out misleading or false information on a web site would they? I mean if that is true why is Snopes such a valuable resource?
/unless they are lying too...

31 AG in Houston  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:48:36am

re: #22 gettinby

Allegedly

32 lockandload  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:48:43am

haha i knew we were to excited about France's turn around possiblities.

33 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:48:45am
34 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:48:58am

Actually, re-reading the thread headline, I'm thinking, "Just one? Not as bad as I would have thought."

35 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:49:27am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

That means that everything you see in porn is true, too (I knew it!) – I'm sure porn gets more hits than the troofers do.

36 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:49:29am

It's very popular in europe (the land of enlightenment) to hate Boosh, distrust Boosh. wish-facts are very popular among the holy political class. troof! booosh!

/kool-aid is goood. Booosh!

37 Buck  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:49:37am

Nicolas Sarkozy = One Step Forward
Christine Boutin = Two Steps Back

38 Sponge  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:50:21am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

If a then b, and if b the c, therefore if a then c...

Millions of people world wide read Harry Potter, therefore there MUST be TWOOOF to the books. Wizards and Goblins really DO exist.

Dumbass of the highest order.

39 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:50:50am

I thought every knew that Bush was responsible for 9/11.

I mean, it's common knowledge isn't it?

40 friarstale  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:51:14am

ahh, the net's full of troofers, stalkers, and miscellaneous weirdos
[Link: cruxy.com...]

41 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:51:34am
42 realwest  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:51:35am

re: #34 Silhouette Hate to say this, but it's just one that we know of!

43 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:52:11am

It's among the most clicked on, so it's true?

Porn gets a lot of clicks, too.

44 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:52:20am
45 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:52:21am

I hope by her opening her stupid mouth like this that her boss asks for her resignation. We have enough idiots in positions of power, we don't need anymore.

46 Immolate  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:52:39am

Corriere della Sera: hot or not?

47 schlagerman  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:53:49am

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

How in the hell can a sane person draw that conclusion? Perhaps I answered my own question.

48 realwest  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:54:07am

re: #39 DesertSage Hey Sage! Hope you had a good Independence Day!
Of course Bush pulled off 9/11; it's all those structural engineers, construction experts and those of us who watched it happen, LIVE, who are the liars here.

49 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:54:20am
50 Bob Tail  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:54:54am

Go and read about the Goodwill of Hamas:

French FM: Policy toward Hamas remains unchanged


French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Hamas's help in freeing British Broadcasting Corp. correspondent Alan Johnston in Gaza showed goodwill, but was not enough to change France's policy toward the group.

Kouchner said he was very happy that Johnston has been released and his government would take the demonstration of goodwill by Hamas into account.

"But they were so determined to kill and to chase their Palestinian neighbors ... Fatah, that I have no illusion for the moment," he told reporters in Geneva on the sidelines of a UN summit on responsible business.

Kouchner added that France continues to recognize Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas as the legitimate representative of the PA.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

51 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:55:26am

So, in Fwance, if one has a troofache, they can contact Christine for pain relief?

52 incanus  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:55:26am

re: #9 buzzsawmonkey

I love how the determinant of truth is the number of times the websites are clicked.

Corollary: All porn is true.

53 jcm  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:55:28am

Truth is now measured by mouse clicks.

This means we can fire all those expensive scientist and researchers, shut down all the labs.

The Troof mouse.

54 Lawrence Schmerel  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:55:30am

This is not surprising. I doubt you could sling a turd in any European political establishment without hitting a Troofer or two.

55 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:55:35am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.
That means that everything you see in porn is true, too (I knew it!) – I'm sure porn gets more hits than the troofers do.

What i find amazing is the people who believe this crap(not about porn- I don't know about that) always say there is science behind it and quote one or two nutty scientists who are not even in the field of whatever they are talking about. The nut headlining at the big 9/11lie conference is a theologian- and no disrespect to real theologians- but I doubt this guy is in materials research engineering, physics or any field with any relevance to the facts.

56 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:56:18am
57 flipflop  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:56:31am

Damn truthers are like roaches...we'll never be rid of them.

58 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:56:57am

re: #38 Sponge

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

If a then b, and if b the c, therefore if a then c...

Millions of people world wide read Harry Potter, therefore there MUST be TWOOOF to the books. Wizards and Goblins really DO exist.


I'd believe Harry Potter waaay before I'd believe this stuff- in fact, I do believe harry Potter.

59 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:57:07am

Hey, don't be so rough on Mme. Boutin.

She's just going on what she heard from Howard Dean.

60 Sponge  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:57:13am
The nut headlining at the big 9/11lie conference is a theologian- and no disrespect to real theologians- but I doubt this guy is in materials research engineering, physics or any field with any relevance to the facts.


Since when does the truth have anything to do with facts? Sheesh...

61 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:57:29am

43 RG

LOL! That just means it's true porn!

It depends on what your definition of "is" is...


Wordsmiths! The world is now chock full of 'em!

62 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:57:33am
63 Beagle  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:58:49am

The much bigger French story, completely ignored by American media, is the recent revelation Mitterrand aided the Rwandan genocide to keep "Anglo-Saxons" out of Africa. Yeah, who knew we had designs on Rwanda?

64 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 10:58:58am

re: #49 buzzsawmonkey

As real as French politicians pronouncements

65 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:00:16am

re: #48 realwest

Hey RW! I did have a good 4th. I went riding...and I didn't even crash this time :')

How 'bout you, did you see some good fireworks?

66 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:00:19am

Christine Boutin? Definitely NOT hot.

67 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:01:09am

Pauvre France...

68 rappmandu  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:01:34am

Boutin is full of crepe.

"I laugh at everyone's misery, except my own."

-Le Frog, in Flushed Away

69 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:02:43am

If Christine Boutin married Vladamir Putin, she'd be M. Boutin Putin.

70 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:03:26am

Well, here in Dallas, we got a nice break from the rain yesterday for all the fireworks shows, but today, it's back with a vengeance. At this rate I'm gonna need a scythe to cut my yard.

71 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:03:49am

re: #49 buzzsawmonkey

re: #43 Resistance Girl

Hey, those letters in Penthouse were totally real.

But I really did get stuck in an elevator overnight with the Swedish lingerie model!

72 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:04:03am

re: #69 Silhouette

If Christine Boutin married Vladamir Putin, she'd be M. Boutin Putin.

Good one.

73 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:04:21am

re: #66 Ward Cleaver

Christine Boutin? Definitely NOT hot.

Oh, I don't know...this is sort of a sexy pose, no?

/just in case.

74 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:05:15am

These are the descendants of those who fostered the French Revolution. They would eat their own young. The French have essentially done nothing since the demise of Napoleon. They'll change their tune soon enough about the time they need to be bailed out by us upstart Americans yet one more time...

BTW, anybody know if they have ever bothered to repay the many zillions they owed us from WWI & WWII? Or did that get thrown overboard when they joined the communist front back in the 60's?

75 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:05:38am

Announced Revised French National Anthem...

Put thumbs in ears, kneel down (women hair must be covered), stick butt in air, face east...

Bismillaah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem
Al hamdu lillaahi rabbil 'alameen
Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem
Maaliki yaumid Deen
Iyyaaka na'abudu wa iy yaaka nasta'een
Ihdinas siraatal mustaqeem
Siraatal ladheena an 'amta' alaihim
Ghairil maghduubi' alaihim waladaaleen

Amen

76 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:06:03am

Facts, truth, reality and logic are unpopular, so why bother?

Wish-facts are like a drug. They provide an easy high and a false sense of superiority.

77 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:06:14am

re: #71 Dar ul Harb

And that's all you have to say about it?

78 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:06:23am

re: #73 gettinby I see she has her scarf ready in case she's required to don the veil during her day.

79 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:06:39am

The number of hits on a website really does determine the truth or error of a blog.

Charles,
Kos has more hits than you do.
/... Other news.

Hundreds of animal rights activists, many wearing red scarves and plastic horns, bared almost all in a march through the streets of Pamplona on Thursday to protest the annual running of bulls fiesta.
Belgian Jos Bruynoogha, 55, said the number of topless women definitely made being passionate about animal rights more attractive. "I like the animals, but I like the women, also," he said.

Me to- Jos, me to.

80 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:07:26am

re: #71 Dar ul Harb

The steel didn't melt in the elevator? Because we know...oh, never mind

81 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:07:26am

If it wasn't for the U.S. they'd all be speaking German right now.

82 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:08:14am

re: #73 gettinby

Oh yeah, that's HOT.

/not

83 Black George Bush  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:08:30am

Trutherisim, logic's retarded cousin!

84 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:09:15am

WHAT ON EARTH?

I just visited the front page of Fox, where I clicked on the link for REPORT: WHY THE BOMBS FAILED TO GO OFF. Imagine my surprise when I suddenly found myself at ABC News instead of Fox!

Is the MSM finally abandoning all pretense of independence? Or did Time-Warner buy Fox?

85 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:09:40am

re: #79 ibmkeyboard
Why, oh why, does every 'cause' require them to get nekkid?

86 Rogue198  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:09:55am

re: #9 buzzsawmonkey

I love how the determinant of truth is the number of times the websites are clicked.

I noticed that too...

87 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:09:58am

re: #70 Ward Cleaver

Scythes are good but, if ya' really wanna' go envirofriendly, why not get one of these sweeties?

88 Buck  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:10:15am

re: #81 DesertSage

If it wasn't for the U.S. they'd all be speaking German right now.

And if it wasn't for them, we would be speaking English right now...


(OK that is a joke stemming from the help given to the founding fathers by the French government of the day, against the British, who speak english)

89 rappmandu  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:10:52am

C'est possib-le that Greenpeace sank the Rainbow Warrior so it could go after Iraq's oilFrance's nukes.

90 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:11:46am

re: #63 Beagle

Well, once again France was on the wrong side of history and common human decency. Instead of putting a stop to genocide, they looked the other way because they thought this would maintain their influence in the region (the full story as reported here).

Well, they maintained it, like a black finger of death, despair and destruction. And they virtually repeated this again vis a vis Iraq...

91 Yankee in OZ  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:11:54am

OT: I think I discovered where Jimmy Carter gets his news from. Now, live from Iran, PRESS TV .

Be sure to check out the headlines on the homepage. This would be hilarious if it weren't so damn disturbing.

92 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:12:00am

re: #84 galloping granny

WHAT ON EARTH?
I just visited the front page of Fox, where I clicked on the link for REPORT: WHY THE BOMBS FAILED TO GO OFF. Imagine my surprise when I suddenly found myself at ABC News instead of Fox!
Is the MSM finally abandoning all pretense of independence? Or did Time-Warner buy Fox?

You're right. WTH are they linking to ABC? Are they getting lazy?

93 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:12:33am

re: #88 Buck
At Yorktown, the British could not retreat
Bottled up by Washington
and the French fleet.

/shr

94 MrMom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:12:52am

re: #73 gettinby

Thanks. Pass the eye bleach, please.

95 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:13:23am

re: #88 Buck

And if it wasn't for them, we would be speaking English right now...

Yeah, I thought about that. If France didn't help us defeat Britain, English would be our official language now.

96 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:13:38am

re: #87 MandyManners

re: #70 Ward Cleaver
Scythes are good but, if ya' really wanna' go envirofriendly, why not get one of these sweeties?

Then I'd have to worry about it being kid-napped (no pun intended) by RoPers.

97 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:15:09am

re: #84 galloping granny

Sure enough, Fox is linking to ABC's tipsheet for terrorists.

98 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:15:44am

re: #96 Ward Cleaver

Poor goats.

99 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:16:11am
100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:16:13am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

So all the stuff on porn sites that get a jillion hits a day must be true?

101 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:16:56am

re: #78 Silhouette

re: #73 gettinby I see she has her scarf ready in case she's required to don the veil during her day.

Shouldn't it be white, you know, in case of the need to waive it or something? ;)

102 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:17:07am

French cheese responsible for global warming.


I think it is possible.

103 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:17:43am

I know Islamic Rage Boy is being marketed already...but has anyone put him juxtaposed with a naked lady on anything?

Just a thought.

104 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:17:45am
waive

Huh?

Try wave.

/waive could work, though. ;)

105 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:18:38am

He'd love that

106 Buck  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:18:49am

re: #95 DesertSage

re: #88 Buck


And if it wasn't for them, we would be speaking English right now...

Yeah, I thought about that. If France didn't help us defeat Britain, English would be our official language now.

It certainly would have made it easier for Microsoft.

Select Language: American English, Canadian English, or English.
107 Carl B  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:19:14am

What's in a name?

Rachel Corrie --- Corriere della Sera

108 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:19:30am

It the fricking French would have helped us southerners in the war of Northern Aggression.

All you damn Yankees would be speaking red-neck... .

109 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:20:07am

And what's her position? Minister of Stupid Ideas?

110 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:20:13am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

Ergo, since Budweiser is the best selling beer, it must be the best beer!

/runs out to buy a 12-pack...

111 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:20:57am
American English, Canadian English, or English

Press 1 for American English
Press 2 for Canadian English
Press 3 for Southern English
Press 4 for Boston English

112 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:21:32am
113 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:22:27am
It certainly would have made it easier for Microsoft.


Select Language: American English, Canadian English, or English.


Please wait while the subdirectory is being created, eh?

114 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:22:44am

Press 5 for Spanglish

115 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:22:44am

If It, red neck,

or was it the British?

116 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:22:45am

So by her thinking, the Backstreet Boys were tremendously talented because they sold millions of copies...and people criticize our public schools.

117 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:22:54am

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey


Good one!

118 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:23:22am
119 astronmr20  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:23:26am

#85,

Because we notice them more. We are talking about it right now... see?


Steve

120 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:25:28am

I'm bilingual; I speak English and Redneck.

121 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:26:40am
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

I'm sure she choose her husband/boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever based on this reasoning.

122 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:27:18am
123 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:27:55am

re: #118 buzzsawmonkey

Ebonic English

I didn't know how to spell Ebonic. Honest!

124 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:28:03am

re: #95 DesertSage

re: #88 Buck

And if it wasn't for them, we would be speaking English right now...

Yeah, I thought about that. If France didn't help us defeat Britain, English would be our official language now.

Don't give the French too much credit. The French crown did not support the Revolution out of any desire for our well being. They wanted the Canadian provinces they had been forced to hand over to the British after the French & Indian War (1754ish) returned and figured supporting us against the Brits was a good way to accomplish that. Might have worked, too, if the French Revolution had not intervened.

125 R2D2  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:29:04am

I've heard of websites where they say that some members of French cabinet are actually alien infiltrators from Proxima Centauri and that 9/11 was their job. They did it so everyone would believe it's Bushitler and his cronies who planned whole mess so Earth population will start to believe that leaders of superpowers are evil monsters. This way extraterrestrial invasion would be waaay easier.
Those websites even have photographs of Rosie where her eyes are glowing with strange greenish light.

Who knows, it could be truth. Everything is possible.

126 Kaos Hiker  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:30:35am

re: #125 R2D2

Rosie Robot.. Hmmm Where have I heard that Before

127 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:30:52am

re: #123 gettinbyIf the spirit of ebonics holds true, there is no wrong way to spell it.

128 Buck  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:30:54am

re: #124 galloping granny

Nobody is saying that the French did it for anything except their own selfish reasons... but fact is they were there...

I am sure the headlines back then in France went something like:

NO BLOOD FOR CANADIAN PROVINCES!

129 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:31:47am

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

Porn sites are the most heavily trafficked on the web, so she must find great cultural value in them as well.

130 Tricky Dick  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:33:56am
131 looking closely  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:34:03am

This has probably been posted before, but I was away and just learned of it:

Kidnapped BBC reporter Alan Johnston released.

Probably worth a thread.

132 shoeless  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:34:14am

OT:

The RoP always seems to be able to out-do themselves...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

133 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:34:27am
134 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:34:54am

Biology professor used to say,

Over time the impossible becomes probable, and then it becomes possible. And with millions of years it becomes fact.

So I believe that forty million years from now the WTC was probably blown up by Dick Cheny and Scooter Libby.

135 Buck  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:36:07am

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

Since Canada back then was primarily a source of furs, it was probably more like:
NO BLOOD FOR BEAVERS!

mmm Beavers... make nice hats, and great BBQ.

136 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:37:18am
137 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:38:05am

NO BLOOD FOR CANADIAN PROVINCES!

Bhawhahah

138 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:38:09am

re: #124 galloping granny
Aye, they didn't help us for noble reasons, but allies rarely do. I'm not one to dismiss good actions because the motivation wasn't pure enough.

They helped, we needed it, and it worked.

Spain helped as well, but seem to be left out of most history books on the subject.

One of the greatest impacts of the Spanish navy was keeping the English in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico from reinforcing Cornwallis at Yorktown October 1781.
139 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:38:25am

Trutherism has to be a mental defect, a personality disorder, or most likely both.

140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:38:41am

Troofer graffiti is starting to spring up around my fair city. One large billboard has been defaced with "Impeach the Fukkers Now!", with a arrow pointing to a model's chin. What a model's chin has to do with 9/11 or Bush is beyond my capacity.

141 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:39:18am

re: #131 looking closely

There were a couple of threads about it on July 3. However, Johnston did take time out to visit with Abbas in the West Bank, to thank the Palestinians for their hospitality and support. Heh.

142 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:40:24am

re: #138 Silhouette

Not to denigrate Spanish assistance, but it was the French fleet that prevented Cornwallis' reinforcement/evacuation.

143 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:42:07am

re: #142 Mike C.

Hey Mike C.!

Where are you now bud?

144 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:43:22am

re: #143 Aladin Sane

Still stuck in Duglastan, AKA T&T.

145 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:43:42am

re: #142 Mike C.

Yes, see my #93.

One bottled him up, one prevented re-enforcement. Measured against each other, France's contribution was greater. I was just mentioning Spain because they usually get left out of the story altogether.

146 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:43:52am

re: #144 Mike C.

re: #143 Aladin Sane
Still stuck in Duglastan, AKA T&T.

Is the weather nice?

147 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:46:51am

re: #138 Silhouette

re: #124 galloping grannyAye, they didn't help us for noble reasons, but allies rarely do. I'm not one to dismiss good actions because the motivation wasn't pure enough. They helped, we needed it, and it worked. Spain helped as well, but seem to be left out of most history books on the subject.

One of the greatest impacts of the Spanish navy was keeping the English in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico from reinforcing Cornwallis at Yorktown October 1781.

Yup - funny what gets left out of the history books! The whole French in North America story has been so distorted that it is almost unbelievable. I would expand on that statement but it would be really off topic.

148 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:50:13am
They wanted the Canadian provinces they had been forced to hand over to the British after the French & Indian War (1754ish) returned and figured supporting us against the Brits was a good way to accomplish that. Might have worked, too, if the French Revolution had not intervenedit hadn't been for those meddling kids.
149 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:50:35am

re: #126 Kaos Hiker

re: #125 R2D2
Rosie Robot.. Hmmm Where have I heard that Before

Rosie!

150 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:51:13am

re: #146 Aladin Sane

If you like rain, it is. It's the rainy season.

151 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:52:56am

Bush should retaliate, and say he actually believes Christine Boutin caused the 9-11 attacks. Makes about as much sense, and you get to laugh in her face if she dares to be insulted.

152 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:53:16am

Mike C.--"Duglastan"?

The people I know who have lived in T&T tend to be ga-ga about it. Only been there once, myself.

153 Stonewall  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:53:38am

late breaking news flash

Nazi invasion of france was an inside job!

154 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:53:55am

re: #141 lawhawk

re: #131 looking closely
There were a couple of threads about it on July 3. However, Johnston did take time out to visit with Abbas in the West Bank, to thank the Palestinians for their hospitality and support. Heh.

And to get the recipe for that tasty falafel he ate while in captivity. Mmmm...

155 Kaos Hiker  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:55:00am

re: #149 MandyManners

Thats It... I knew I could count on My way smarter than Me lizard Army.

156 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:55:01am

re: #144 Mike C.

re: #143 Aladin Sane
Still stuck in Duglastan, AKA T&T.

Trinidad and Tobago?

157 R2D2  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:55:30am

I forgot to mention in my post #125 that...

Some of you will surely say that Proxima Centauri can't be populated, because, simple enough, it has no planets. I must disappoint you. Popular website AliensAmongUs have proof that all our space explorers are being paid for telling us the biggest lie of all times: Proxima Centauri DOES have planets. Just ask yourself why...WHY does Hubble telescope never takes pictures of this sector of Space? I could bring you TON of proof that Cristine is one of them.
What?...Where are you taking me?...Stop! I'm telling trooofff! I was clicking alot!

158 Mr Kufr  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:55:58am

Spain helped the colonists from the beginning of the war. The first Texas cattle drives began during the Revolution to bring beef from Tejas to New Orleans, run by Spain at the time, then distributed via the Mississippi to the western portions of the Colonies.

159 Kaos Hiker  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:56:12am

re: #155 Kaos Hiker

hey .. Kind of looks like Rosie O. as well... Hmmm

160 jcm  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:57:01am

re: #125 R2D2

I've heard of websites where they say that some members of French cabinet are actually alien infiltrators from Proxima Centauri and that 9/11 was their job. They did it so everyone would believe it's Bushitler and his cronies who planned whole mess so Earth population will start to believe that leaders of superpowers are evil monsters. This way extraterrestrial invasion would be waaay easier. Those websites even have photographs of Rosie where her eyes are glowing with strange greenish light.Who knows, it could be truth. Everything is possible.

The left behind a clue

161 Strike Hornet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:57:46am

re: #21 Tricky Dick

truthers equated with terrorists, nuts

the comments by the troofers are even funnier than the video...

this one is classic "troofer"

"Parker and Stone haven't looked at the real facts, have they? The fact that the Bin Laden tapes were fake (the gold ring, the accent, the right handedness, ect...) and that Osama even said he had nothing to do with it. The pipeline being turned down by the Taliban two weeks before our invasion, ect... Sad that they can't see the truth."

162 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:58:02am
#24 Silhouette 7/05/2007 10:45:58 am PDT reply quote

The website is clicked a lot.

Well, can't argue with that logic.

I'll bet that if France had had the internet in 1400, the most often clicked pages would have indicated that the earth was flat!

163 brent  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:59:07am

140 monkey

The arrow pointing to the chin is probably a troofer interpretation of a voice balloon - troofers are not very good visually, so those kind of mistakes / misinterpretations.

Helps explain why they can't understand what their eyes told them on 9/11.

164 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 11:59:45am

re: #12 lawhawk

It's not that surprising, given that the first of the troofers was a Frenchman, Thierry Meyssan, who continues to push the ravings that something other than a plane hit the Pentagon.
From there, it goes downhill.

IIRC, M. Meyssan bragged about the fact that he hadn't even bothered attempting to interview any witnesses in the DC area who saw the plane, before publishing his disgusting pack of lies book. Hey, they were all lying anyway, right?

And this book was a best-seller in France.

165 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:00:52pm

OT - 10 Hamas Militants Dead After Sudden Fighting in Gaza

Better info at the IDF homepage.

166 commander_vimes  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:02:30pm

re: #140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe a ref to the VP, Mr. Chin-ey. Good thing they aren't drawing arrows to his first name.

167 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:02:54pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

Anybody that likes this place needs to get out more often. It's a dump.

168 Stonewall  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:02:56pm

re: #160 jcm


Just Damn!

169 infidel4ever  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:03:06pm

re: #76 FrogMarch

Thanks for that link, I need to re-educate a son before he turns into an incurable Truther!

170 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:03:44pm

#167 Mike C.:

Hm. Well, like I said, only been there once.

Are you by any chance at a certain "upside-down" hotel?

171 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:03:48pm

re: #156 Ward Cleaver

Yup.

172 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:03:52pm

The zebrula.

BERLIN (AFP) - A zebrula -- a cross between a horse and a zebra -- has drawn curious onlookers to a zoo in Germany because of its unusual coat.

While zebrulas have been in existence since the 19th century, this one is particularly unique: its coat is sharply divided between horse and zebra, says Safaripark, a zoo near northern Guetersloh.

The animal, which is slightly more than a year old and is named Eclyse, has a zebra head, while the first half of the rest of its body is white and the second half is zebra-colored.

173 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:04:00pm

America had 9/11.
Spain 3/11.
The UK 7/7.

When France's turn comes, as it most certainly will, I'll be sure to blame you Ms. Boutin. My reasoning will be, “I think it is possible.”

/[deleted]

174 Know Your Enemy  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:04:50pm

Isn't that a big leap to make at this point? From "I suppose it's possible" to "Bushco did it"?

just sayin...

175 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:04:51pm

re: #165 Silhouette

It's sudden fighting that has gone on for months only if you don't count the near daily rocket fire launched from Gaza into Israel.

176 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:05:18pm

re: #155 Kaos Hiker

Not smarter. I just like to Google.

177 DANEgerus  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:05:25pm

Here is a picture of Christine Boutin, from another website which is "among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it" (NSFW)

178 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:05:50pm

re: #170 Occasional Reader

No, I'm not in the Hilton these days. Crowne Plaza.

179 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:06:02pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

After Sarkozy's victory in the presidential election, on May 18, 2007 Boutin was named Minister of Housing and the City in the government of Prime Minister François Fillon.
180 Clemente  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:06:55pm

I'd guess, then, that Ms. Boutin fills both her medicine cabinet and her investment portfolio from her junk email folder.

181 Know Your Enemy  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:07:19pm

re: #177 DANEgerus

Here is a picture of Christine Boutin, from another website which is "among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it" (NSFW)

I stand corrected. She sure looks like a Twoofer.

182 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:07:29pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Why zebrula and not zebrorse or something?

Zebrula sounds like a cross between a zebra and an umbrella.

183 R2D2  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:08:31pm

re: #177 DANEgerus


Oy, Is she really a guy?!?!?!?

184 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:08:48pm

re: #178 Mike C.

re: #170 Occasional Reader
No, I'm not in the Hilton these days.

I'm gonna' let that one go.

185 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:09:45pm

You've just misunderstood her French. She is saying that Bush is a very hunky and handsome cowboy and she'd like to click with him as much as possible. When asked if it was possible that Bush would find her attractive, she said "yes, it is possible."

/You just need the new, revised LaRousse Dictionary.
(I think Babba could also do another translation; she's pretty good at that kind of thing)

186 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:10:11pm

And she has a blog:
[Link: www.christineboutin.fr...]

Which Google will attempt to translate for you:
[Link: www.christineboutin.fr...]

187 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:10:19pm
The zebrula.

Okay, that's it. This is the Apocalypse.


[begins hoarding canned goods and ammunition]

188 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:10:21pm

re: #182 Silhouette

Beats me. It came from Italy so maybe half of the name comes from the Italian word for "horse."

It'd make a really pretty coat.

189 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:11:33pm

re: #184 MandyManners

It was nice once, but now it's time to refurbish it. It's musty inside.

190 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:11:52pm

re: #177 DANEgerus

She's not bad looking for a woman of a certain age who's not undergone the knife.

191 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:11:58pm
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

Just wonderin', seeing how the French are so cautious about their culture being diluted, do they have filters on their internet that prevent the overuse and display of non-French language?

/slow day at the office

192 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:12:24pm

OT - More on the least efficient genocide in the history of time:

Monday, Israel sends the following into Gaza

Sufa Crossing - Approximately 2,500 tons and 78,000 liters of products: 556 tons animal feed, 530 tons straw, 360 tons sugar, 264 tons flour (and an additional 47 tons of flour for merchants ), 205 tons salt, 78,000 liters oil, 61 tons spices , 48 tons rice, 49 tons halva, 39 tons bananas, 54 tons jam , 23 tons carrots, 30 tons barley, 29 tons humus, 40 tons corn , 20 tons hypochlorite, 14 tons canned meat, 6.5 tons tea, 100 tons powdered milk (donated by UNRWA).

Kerem Shalom crossing - 20 trucks carrying summer fruits, milk products, baby diapers, meat, medical supplies, fertilized eggs and oil.

193 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:13:04pm

re: #189 Mike C.

ROFLMAO! I'm not touching that one, either.

194 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:13:44pm
#187 Occasional Reader 7/05/2007 12:10:19 pm PDT reply quote

The zebrula.
Okay, that's it. This is the Apocalypse.


[begins hoarding canned goods and ammunition]


Does this mean we should start looking for the four 'zebrulamen' of the apocolypse now?

195 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:13:48pm
196 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:14:07pm

re: #184 MandyManners

re: #178 Mike C.


re: #170 Occasional Reader No, I'm not in the Hilton these days.

I'm gonna' let that one go.

Mike took the whole prison thing rather hard; he hasn't even returned her calls. Paris has been devastated. I think it would be best if you just dropped the subject, really.

197 abolitionist  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:15:06pm
...the websites claiming this are among the most clicked...

And there's a rock that gets more magical as more people dance around it.

Kiss my asteroid, Christine.

198 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:15:07pm

re: #188 MandyManners

It'd make a really pretty coat.

Probably good eating, too.

(just in case there were a few PETA folks whose heads hadn't exploded)

199 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:15:12pm

re: #192 Silhouette

I need to go grocery shopping. Maybe I should launch a few rockets at my neighbors and they'll bring it to me for free.

200 Beagle  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:15:24pm

#90 lawhawk

That's the one.

The publication of the documents in today's Le Monde for the first time confirms long-held suspicions against France. The previously secret diplomatic telegrams and government memos also suggest the late French president was obsessed with the danger of "Anglo-Saxon" influence gripping Rwanda. In three months from April 1994, at least a million Rwandans - mainly Tutsis - were systematically slaughtered in killings engineered by the Hutu regime to exterminate its ethnic rivals and repel the Uganda-trained Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF).


Makes Captain Morton in Mr. Roberts seem like a reasonable fellow. The French may have found a way to distribute mental illness throughout the entire population.

201 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:16:33pm

re: #196 Occasional Reader

Maybe don a black armband?

202 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:17:04pm

re: #195 Ringo the Gringo

“Is jogging right wing?”
The EUroweenies say "yes".
Macho, sweaty politicians have given running a bad name.

Wait 'till Sarko goes running with Bush during some sort of summit meeting. The EUroweenies heads will explode.

203 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:17:17pm

Didn't the Phrench pretty much invent the September 11th conspiracy theories?

Anyway- Bush/Cheney/Rove/Halliburton- smart enough to fool the world with the 9-11 attacks, but too stupid to arrange for WMDs to be found in Iraq?

204 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:17:22pm

re: #198 Silhouette

I hear many distant *pops* right now.

Mission accomplished.

205 eowyn2  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:18:08pm

Cabinet Manufacturer?

206 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:19:02pm

re: #125 R2D2

could you please set up a web site with that info so we can all "click" there and make it true

207 Boondock St. Bender  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:19:05pm

Just found out one of my co-workers is a troofer,spent an hour using reasoned arguments,all i got in return was a grin,and an attitude that I was the one who was an idiot...definatly has bds real bad as well...the two normally go together.commented to my partner(in my best al swearengen voice)"I just fled my own control room in horror,at the stupidity of who's relieving me..."

208 Cpt. Disco  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:19:09pm

I have recently come to the conclusion that debating with conspiracy theorists is futile. I was shocked and amazed to find that the flat earth society is still in operation. The conspiracy theories those folks come up with makes the twoofers look like amateurs! In both cases, it's a religion.

209 cpuller  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:19:53pm

To Boutin: "Mange le merde et morte".

I know, my French is rusty. I used to try and learn it before I realized that with their recent record of wars, French might be a language never used again after, oh, say, 20 years... Except maybe in penal colonies.

210 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:20:25pm

re: #153 Stonewall

Well .let's face it - that one has some truth to it.

211 Keli  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:20:41pm

well Ron Paul is the most clicked on option in polls so he must be true too

212 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:21:05pm

re: #189 Mike C.

re: #184 MandyManners
It was nice once, but now it's time to refurbish it. It's musty inside.

Hey, the Hilton's not in bad shape, considering the huge numbers of visitors... entering, exiting, over and over again, many, many times per day.

213 SunCat  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:21:09pm

re: #36 FrogMarch

It's very popular in europe (the land of enlightenment) to hate
Boosh, distrust Boosh. wish-facts are very popular among the holy
political class. troof! booosh!

/kool-aid is goood. Booosh!

From the people who gave us Postmodernism.

214 funkyfantom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:21:32pm

Hey! Hey! Sarkozy!
I don't like your cabinet!
No way! No way!
I think you need a new one
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I could be your minister

So when's it gonna sink in
She's so stupid
What the hell were you thinking?!

215 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:22:10pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

Hey, the Hilton's not in bad shape, considering the huge numbers of visitors... entering, exiting, over and over again, many, many times per day.

Which Hilton you referring to? Paris?
/sorry, I'll leave now.

216 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:22:25pm

re: #69 Silhouette

and if she were fleeing from a riot while cheering for a Nepalese soccer team whiel studying calculus she'd be

M. Scootin' Rootin' Newton Butan Putin Boutin!

Say that five times fast and call Doctor Suess! Do not dare me to extend this this thought because I will and everyone will be sorry.

217 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:23:04pm

Dagnabit. Launching several (bottle) rockets at the neighbors didn't do anything. Gotta' drag my butt to the grocery store.

Wait. Is that the sound of sirens in the distance?

Skeedaddling fast!

218 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:23:45pm

202 Occasional Reader,

Funny, I've always thought that running was something that the French were experts at.

219 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:23:48pm

#208 Cpt. Disco:

I have recently come to the conclusion that debating with conspiracy theorists is futile.

Indeed, because their ideas are self-sealing. Any evidence seeming to support the existence of the conspiracy is good for them, of course; but any contrary evidence, or lack of evidence, merely "proves" the conspiracy is good at covering its tracks.

220 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:24:12pm

re: #214 funkyfantom

Hey! Hey! Sarkozy!I don't like your cabinet!

Just when I was going to buy some Grey Goose vodka and give up my boycott of French goods. Damn those French, anyway...

221 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:24:50pm

Mmmm, zebra meat.

Many antelope meat lovers think zebra meat is very delicous.

222 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:25:27pm

re: #208 Cpt. Disco

You only recently came to this conclusion? The problem is not debating these loons, but making sure that others don't succumb to their nonsensical ravings.

223 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:25:40pm

#215 BDVM: You managed to single-handedly single-entendre our (Mike C., Mandy n' me) double-entendre.

224 Sponge  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:26:12pm
218 Ringo the Gringo 7/05/2007 12:23:45 pm PDT reply quote

202 Occasional Reader,

Funny, I've always thought that running was something that the French were experts at.

Keep in mind, there is a difference between running for sport or exercise and running away...

225 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:27:15pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

226 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:28:17pm

We du nut rune when we retweet.

We tahk ze Vespa!

227 cosmo  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:28:21pm

"Je ne pas pense que c’est possible” madame secretaire...

"Je pense qui vouz est une retard." (Sorry, I majored in Spanish)

228 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:29:12pm

OT:
Seems that the battle at Lal Masjid is going on hot and heavy, and Pakistani forces have been leading away those they've captured in what appears to be their undies. Where is the international outrage. *crickets*

229 gettinby  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:30:40pm

re: #219 Occasional Reader

Indeed, because their ideas are self-sealing. Any evidence seeming to support the existence of the conspiracy is good for them, of course; but any contrary evidence, or lack of evidence, merely "proves" the conspiracy is good at covering its tracks.

Are we discussing global warming again?

230 WeaselZipper  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:31:13pm

When will the EU learn?

EU Warns Britain: Don't Link Islam With Terrorism...

Appeasement kills!

231 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:32:20pm

I once had a conversation with a Global Conspiracy Theorist at a party in NYC, who held out that the following ALL prove the existence of the Shadowy Conspiracy Controlling the Planet:

1) The fact that tobacco is legal
2) The fact that marijuana is illegal
3) Many public health campaigns are trying to suppress the use of tobacco
4) Other publicity campaigns are trying to legalize marijuana

He wound up by saying, "nobody really knows who controls these big corporations." To which I replied: "Yes, we do, at least here in America. There's something called a Schedule 13D. They're routinely filed. Absolutely run of the mill stuff. I'm a corporate lawyer, and I know what I'm talking about. You're not, and on this particular subject, you don't." After that, he began looking at me like *I* must be part of the Shadowy Global Conspiracy.

232 Boondock St. Bender  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:34:20pm

#208 cpt.disco
I had a couple folks bring up loose change,and was able to disuade them.these weren't commited troofers though,merely folks who saw a peice of propaganda.but,i agree,the real troofers are unreachable.i guess it's a form of feeling that they have a supierior knoledge the rest of us haven't gleaned,and amitting they are wrong would not only entail them being incorrect but losing the all important superior perch,for a fools cap.

233 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:34:50pm
234 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:34:54pm

re: #165 Silhouette

OT - 10 Hamas Militants Dead After Sudden Fighting in Gaza
Better info at the IDF homepage.

after sudden fighting? Hell, I thought it was one continous Keystone Cops episode there!

235 Dianna  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:35:05pm

re: #231 Occasional Reader

But you must be! Simply by telling him he didn't know what he's talking about, and revealing your profession, you probably frightened him silly.

Want to bet he's incorporated you as a shadowy enforcer? A man in black?

236 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:37:48pm

#233 Iron Fist:

So Global Conspiracy pays well, does it?

We Global Conspiracists are beyond the need for this puny stuff called "money". That's just a tool we use to keep the rest of you in control. Rent They Live, it'll explain everything!

237 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:38:55pm

Bad news. The best forecaster at the NHC, Stacy Stewart, is gone for the season. I figured he might have been doing his annual reserve duty at The Joint Typhoon Warning Center-Pacific in Honolulu, but I just found out he has shipped out to Iraq, and when America needs him most, he'll be serving on a different front.

National Hurricane Center forecaster in Middle East until July 2008

238 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:39:04pm

Well the troof of Hurricane Katrina goes back to the Fwench. You see, they had this town back in Fwance named Orleans, elevation 400 feet above sea level. But they really didn't like Americans so they started this little town which they named New Orleans, which was 9 feet below sea level, figuring that sooner or later nature would fill that little bowl full of water. Troof!

239 Shemesh  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:39:13pm

OT, this may make you smile - and it gets the point across:

240 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:39:16pm

re: #235 Dianna

We don't exist. We are above the law. Over it. We are the men in black. /zed

Now, where'd leave the keys to that POS Ford out back... /damn...

241 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:41:00pm

MSNBC has a citizenship quiz.

As much as I hate to assign motivation, why do I feel this was posted as some sort of statement, "So you don't want all these illegal aliens to become citizens, you big yahoo? Well, I bet you couldn't even pass the citizenship test, so why do you deserve to be here?"

Do you have what it takes to become a citizen?

I scored 100%, but admit a lucky guess on

What INS form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?

How would I know that?

242 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:41:04pm

#240 lawhawk: This time, I drive. You're "old and busted", I'm "new hotness".

243 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:41:37pm
244 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:41:51pm

re: #69 Silhouette

If Christine Boutin married Vladamir Putin, she'd be M. Boutin Putin.

Surely, you win this thread, Sir.

245 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:42:32pm

Maybe in the future, I'll start including comments with my replies.

246 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:43:01pm

#243 buzzsaw: Are you kidding? They Live is a tremendously fun bad movie. "I am here to chew bubblegum, and kick ass... and I am all out of bubblegum." Think you're gonna find a line like that in a Francois Truffaut flick?

247 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:43:17pm

re: #219 Occasional Reader

#208 Cpt. Disco:

I have recently come to the conclusion that debating with conspiracy theorists is futile.

Indeed, because their ideas are self-sealing. Any evidence seeming to support the existence of the conspiracy is good for them, of course; but any contrary evidence, or lack of evidence, merely "proves" the conspiracy is good at covering its tracks.

I just got Vincent Buglosi's book on the JFK assassination, aptly titled "Reclaiming History", where he hopes to once and for all prove, as a prosecutor, that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing President Kennedy. The book is a large hardcover (fills my attache) over 1500 pages long - if published with standard font size & page format, it would be over 13 volumes long! I'm not exaggerating when I say that nearly every sentence is linked to a source. And the damn thing has a CD-ROM with even more sources & the like. In short, there's more grounded evidence between the covers in this book than in any book I've ever read & I mostly only read history. Yet to a person who is convinced that the JFK assassination is part of The Global Conspiracy, this book only means that Vincent Buglosi is a part of The Global Conspiracy.

BTW, in the introduction, Buglosi points out that a whopping 75% of Americans believe that JFK was killed by a Global Conspiracy. I only pray that someday someone doesn't have to publish a book titled: "Reclaiming History II - 19 Pissed Off Muslims Did Attack the WTC on 9/11"

248 Dianna  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:44:09pm

re: #240 lawhawk

Excellently done!

I'll stop giggling and get back to my little numbers any minute now!

249 Clemente  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:44:29pm
250 Ackomanyuki  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:44:42pm

The Troof is out there...er uh...maybe not.

251 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:45:08pm

re: #246 Occasional Reader

#243 buzzsaw: Are you kidding? They Live is a tremendously fun bad movie. "I am here to chew bubblegum, and kick ass... and I am all out of bubblegum." Think you're gonna find a line like that in a Francois Truffaut flick?


They Live has the single greatest 17 1/2 minute long fight scene in cinematic history.

252 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:46:16pm

#251 BDVM:

They Live has the single greatest 17 1/2 minute long fight scene in cinematic history.

Which, as you probably already know, was faithfully duplicated, almost blow-by-blow, in the famous South Park "Cripple Fight!".

253 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:47:10pm

Boutin sounds like an alternative spelling for Boudin, which is a Cajun sausage made with rice and scraps of meat otherwise unfit for human consumption boiled together for hours before being put into pig intestines and then boiled further.


From the Cajun word "Boudin", we get "Boudinage", a geological term used to describe a formerly round rock, distorted to Cajun sausage shape by extreme pressure.

254 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:48:54pm

re: #252 Occasional Reader

#251 BDVM:

They Live has the single greatest 17 1/2 minute long fight scene in cinematic history.

Which, as you probably already know, was faithfully duplicated, almost blow-by-blow, in the famous South Park "Cripple Fight!".

Of course. Another overlooked Rowdy Roddy Piper contribution to the world of Great Bad Movies is "Hell Comes to Frogtown."

255 Ackomanyuki  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:49:33pm

re: #250 Ackomanyuki

The only comforting thing I find among the insanity on the page I linked to is that its site meter shows only 158k hits in three years.

256 commander_vimes  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:50:22pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

It came on the directorial heals of the totally cool "Big trouble In Little China" and the somewhat downhill "Prince of Darkness".

Plus, They Live goes beyond the typical case of plot-flaw-itis and manages to have plot flaws in the credits. The aliens are referred to as zombies in the credits. Who couldn't love something that silly.

257 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:50:35pm

re: #241 Silhouette

MSNBC has a citizenship quiz.

As much as I hate to assign motivation, why do I feel this was posted as some sort of statement, "So you don't want all these illegal aliens to become citizens, you big yahoo? Well, I bet you couldn't even pass the citizenship test, so why do you deserve to be here?"

What INS form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?

How would I know that?

so maybe your first assumption was incorrect and it was written for people who want to be citizens?

258 Dianna  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:50:56pm

The first half of They Live was pretty darn good. I seriously enjoyed it; then Carpenter evidently couldn't figure out what was supposed to happen, and turned it into an episode of a wrestling match.

Very odd. I've always wondered what the ending was really supposed to be.

259 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:51:05pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

re: #236 Occasional Reader


Rent They Live, it'll explain everything!

It doesn't explain how a movie so lamely acted and directed managed to get a distribution deal.

Wasn't that movie just a rip-off of an old Twilight Zone or Outer Limits show? I've seen this movie on cable, and it was pretty bad.

260 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:52:04pm
261 Irene NYC  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:52:29pm

re: #253 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Come on, Ed! Boudin is delicious. And you forgot to mention the blood. As for intestines, that's been used by all cultures to make saucissons.
;)

262 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:52:59pm

re: #252 Occasional Reader

263 Clemente  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:55:53pm

re: #172 MandyManners

The zebrula.

Too bad we can't call it a zippo...

264 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 12:58:09pm

#254 BDVM:

Great Bad Movies is "Hell Comes to Frogtown."

Are you trying to bring us back on topic?

265 Walter E. Wallis  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:01:01pm

It may be reasonable to speculate on whether others were associated with Oswald, but the next idiot who claims that it is impossible to get off three aimed shots from a bolt action rifle in 9 seconds may get an '03 busted over his head.
The motivation of the 9/11 guys may be reasonably debated, their actions cannot be. Some of the participants may well have been unaware their ride was a one way trip, but so what. Everyone knows why the buildings came down - the outlawing of asbestos structural fireproofing. This was an EPA ruling, and Nixon established EPA, thus bringing down the WTC.

266 Yankee In Oz  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:01:14pm

re: #257 so.cal.swede

re: #241 Silhouette


MSNBC has a citizenship quiz.
As much as I hate to assign motivation, why do I feel this was posted as some sort of statement, "So you don't want all these illegal aliens to become citizens, you big yahoo? Well, I bet you couldn't even pass the citizenship test, so why do you deserve to be here?"
What INS form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?

How would I know that?

so maybe your first assumption was incorrect and it was written for people who want to be citizens?

Nah, it was included so that you would get at least one question wrong and feel so badly about yourself that you would reverse your position on immigration reform - all the while saying, "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!".

267 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:04:49pm

#241 Silhouette:

As much as I hate to assign motivation, why do I feel this was posted as some sort of statement, "So you don't want all these illegal aliens to become citizens, you big yahoo?

Well... actually, by definition, if they're taking the citizenship test (as things stand now, anyway), they're probably not here illegally.

268 Racer X  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:06:23pm

re: #250 Ackomanyuki

The Troof is out there...er uh...maybe not.

"Remember: If you identify with your body or your gender, or are comfortable in your 'human' existence, you might not be ready for this level of information".

Oh this is frickin hillarious!

269 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:06:54pm

re: #265 Walter E. Wallis

It may be reasonable to speculate on whether others were associated with Oswald,

Can we speculate on the phony moon landing then?
/troofer

270 Racer X  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:07:03pm

I am definitely not ready for that level of information.

271 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:08:24pm

re: #269 EC Marm

re: #265 Walter E. Wallis

It may be reasonable to speculate on whether others were associated with Oswald,

Can we speculate on the phony moon landing then?/troofer

Not only was there no moon landing - THERE IS NO MOON! Wake up, sheeple!
/

272 Gmac  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:09:10pm

Meh, some people are so gaulable.

273 Thanos  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:09:27pm

Did somoene mention Snopes earlier? A run through the links on this 9/11 search page there is pretty educational.

274 Strike Hornet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:11:54pm

re: #30 Just_A_Grunt

Nobodyyy would ever put out misleading or false information on a web site would they? I mean if that is true why is Snopes such a valuable resource?
/unless they are lying too...

Snopes = Government Shill

/moonbat logic

275 AtadOFF  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:12:29pm

ahh well... the lunatic fringe needs to be represented too doesn't it?

276 Pete(Detroit)  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:13:36pm

re: #35 JamesTKirk

That means that everything you see in porn is true, too
In Fwance, it probably is...
Oooohhh lalal!

277 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:14:09pm

The citizenship test was on the MSNBC webpage for their general readership, as a 4th of July special, to experience what an immigrant does.

Considering immigrants are referred to in the third person, I don't think it was aimed at immigrants.

When immigrants want to become Americans, they must take a civics test as part of their naturalization interview before a Citizenship and Immigration Services (INS) officer.

But I guess that it just my opinion, worth about 0 cents on the free market.

278 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:14:38pm

re: #274 Strike Hornet

re: #30 Just_A_Grunt

Nobodyyy would ever put out misleading or false information on a web site would they? I mean if that is true why is Snopes such a valuable resource?/unless they are lying too...

Snopes = Government Shill /moonbat logic

Snopes debunked the "myth" that soda & Pop Rocks won't explode in your mouth, thereby ensuring that their corporate paymasters will be able to sell more of their sugary products, lining their pockets while our children die!

279 abolitionist  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:15:04pm

re: #241 Silhouette

Took NBC quiz, Do you have what it takes to become a citizen?

Missed 1 of 20, scoring 95%.

280 Pete(Detroit)  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:17:01pm

re: #53 jcm

My sister was bit by a mouse...

/Ponty Mython..

281 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:17:22pm

Is it happy hour yet?

282 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:18:25pm

I just got a movie recommendation from a friend..."you HAVE to see Sicko".

GA!

283 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:23:48pm
284 odhran  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:30:34pm

Bleh. Sarkozy lost me when he pinned a medal on Babs.

I still stand by F* The French.

285 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:31:05pm

re: #241 Silhouette
90% Didn't know the Naturalization form # and the year those slackers wrote the Constitution. Eleven years after independence? Talk about a do nothing Congress. :~)

286 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:32:41pm

re: #285 EC Marm

It was a quagmire.

287 Prester John  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:34:52pm

Has anyone mentioned that this guy probably thinks France contributed to the Allied victory in WW II?

288 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:35:55pm

As for the zebrula, I think the Torah prohibits crossbreeding and the creation of hybrids, whether in animals or plants. Kind of interesting.

289 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:36:15pm

But it doesn't say anything about hybrid cars . . .

290 hbchrist  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:36:24pm

Nigerian email scams are also frequently clicked in webmail. I don't believe that makes them true, however. Maybe things are different in France.

291 RexDawg68  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:40:24pm

I simultaneously mourn and fear the future of this country due to the lunacy of the troofers. How do these wastes of oxygen dress/feed themselves?

292 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:44:46pm

I didn't even wanna mention the blood in sausages.


The Evangelist Paul, as described in the Acts of the Apostles, pretty much made no food off limits for uncircumcised converts to Christianity. Except 1) Food sacrificed to idols 2) meat from a living animal or an animal that had been strangled and 3) blood.

Simple. We Christians can eat bacon-double cheeseburgers, and lobster in drawn butter, whatever.

And who wants to eat blood anyway?

293 shiplord kirel  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:54:06pm

Normally, a statement like this from a cabinet minister would draw a formal diplomatic protest from the offended country.
Imagine, for example, the response if Mme. Boutin had accused Soddy King Khalid of supporting rioters and yoots in the banlieus (which he almost certainly does). If the target were sufficiently PC, say, Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, there might even be a UN resolution condemning the calumny.
With the US as the target, however, literally any outrage must be borne in silence, lest we ourselves cause offense to terrorists and the depraved bigots who incite them. It is also not impossible that many at the State Department, longtime den of Arabists and antisemites, support the Troofers themselves.

294 Tricky Dick  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:56:27pm
295 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:57:21pm
Except ... 2) meat from a living animal

So Paul deemed Gagh to be haram?

296 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:58:33pm

re: #293 shiplord kirel


Good point. I didn't even think of the diplomacy angle that an official of one government just accused another of murder. I'm too used to the anti-Americanism, I suppose.

297 Highrise  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 1:59:05pm

We need to keep publically ridiculing and scoffing at these truthers. It's the only way to keep them from brainwashing others that don't know the facts and trying to rewrite history.

My parents aren't gullible types..but even they were wondering about the truth to the whole global warming issue due to the constant barrage of the sky is falling on the news. I am by no means a global warming expert but I reminded them about how the news works and that things are hyped for ratings and money behind the scenes. I also pointed out who the people are that are hyping this such as al gore. I think they got the point. It's like kennedy supporting a bill, you don't even need to read it and know that it's full of crap. Ideology goes a Long way.

My sister is what I call a moon truther. She believes the gov't never put a man on the moon and just pocketed the money. Funny thing is, my father was an engineer for Boeing for over 40 years and in the beginning of that he worked for nasa and met several astronauts and saw takeoffs. I guess he was in on the moon conspiracy too /rolls eyes. She also suffers greatly from BDS. Of course she is also one that won't flush the toilet when she pees and when she uses a paper napkin, she hangs it out to dry to reuse it (ewww), and she washes plastic baggies and puts them out on a clothes line to dry them.


I avoid being around her and never talked about 9/11 but she probably would go all rosie on me and then I'd have to humiliate her. I can take a lot of different viewpoints on many subjects but 9/11 truthers bring out the worst in me...I flash back OFTEN to the video footage of those poor people jumping out of windows of those towers. I don't even live in NY and I'm filled with anger and sympathy for those people and their families...more than some NYers sadly.

298 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:03:16pm

Kirel and Sil--

Hey, the French invented diplomacy, remember? So who are we to judge?

/retch

I would certainly like to see the Bush Administration demand an explanation/apology from the French Ambassador. But I won't hold my breath.

299 Carl B  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:10:09pm
She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

This may also help explain the European proclivity for believing all that ludicrous islamic propaganda and historical revisionism that turns reality upside down. Repeating a lie enough times makes it seem like reality to the gullible and naive.

300 andthenblammo!  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:16:40pm

Yay! Now it's okay to despise the French again!

301 Aylios  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:32:01pm

What a f*** embarassment!

Thankfully she's only minister for housing. She's a bit of a religious nut, that militates for the christian right-wing. I sure hope Sarko gives her a good slapping around, what an idiot!

302 tradewind  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:40:05pm

I've spent a fair amount of time with the French as a captive audience, and no one ever accused them of being especially bright.
Women there seem most obsessed with figuring out how to avoid wrinkles while still smoking a pack a day... insight into political intrigue, not so much.

303 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:43:04pm

What I've learned about Boutin today

For one thing, she favors a guaranteed minimum income in the form of what she calls a "universal dividend." ...

Finally, she is virtually alone on the right of the political spectrum in wanting to make the right to decent housing un droit opposable, that is, a right guaranteed in law and giving grounds for litigation if the government fails to provide.

...

But perhaps her most signal qualification for the post is her willingness to enter into dialogue with religious Muslims. As a Catholic fundamentalist, her views on the foundational role of religion and its priority over politics have at least that in common with certain Muslim views.

She has attended meetings and received the applause of the Union des Organisations Islamiques de France (UOIF), which is close to the Muslim Brothers and considered a more radical element within the Conseil Français du Culte Musulman (CFCM)

304 tradewind  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:47:22pm

Charles, for a minute there I thought you said Christian Louboutin, and I was so upset at the thought of being forced to trash my best shoes, bought only after Sark (and sanity) replaced Shh-Iraq.

305 AirForceWife  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 2:57:53pm

Celebrating Indepence Day yesterday, I thought to myself how grateful I am that I was at this giant firework display celebrating our freedom and that we're not British. I'm even more grateful that I'm not French. Then, I got a gift this morning with a call from someone trying to sell me the NY times and I got to tell them "I Wouldn't buy that propaganda for the enemy piece of garbage if my life depended on it".

306 markie  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 3:14:54pm

So, let me get this straight. Because there are so many hits on certain websites, there must be an element of truth to what is said on them?
I suppose if she went online, and discovered that her bank account suddenly had ballooned by 500,000 Francs (due to an unfortunate computer error intended for my account) she would go out and buy a yacht, since it must be true?

307 keelie  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 3:37:52pm

Another Pansy Politician.

308 Resistance Girl  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 3:45:52pm

Happy hour yet?

309 Dave659  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 4:05:18pm

These idiots never have a good explanation as to why the president would have organized 9/11, from which I conclude that they believe he did it out of pure evil.

310 65DropTop  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 4:06:46pm

Here is the Minister of Housing's Governmental Email Address:

cboutin@assemblee-nationale.fr

And here is the French Embassy's webpage for questions about governmental policy:

[Link: www.ambafrance-us.org...]

I was politely blunt. I am not saying you should be.

311 capswine  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 4:30:04pm

TRUTH!
Hmm, my first comment. Great to be a fellow lizard.
Trying to link to my video. I like the comment from "thermateexpert." I have to send him the link to furniture store fire that killed 7 firemen.

It works when you use a lighter too.

312 Maine's Michael  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 6:17:04pm

Bush is having great personal difficulties himself.

He is a Troofer at heart himself, but the problem is all the other Troofers think Bush did it, and Bush doesn't remember doing it. He thinks maybe Cheney did it. That's what Condi tells him between prayers at the OIC Mosque last week . . .

313 meangreentexan  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 6:27:00pm

re: #10 American Soldier

She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it.

I knew it! I knew it!

It must be true for the same reason global warming must be true. There's a consensus! If enough idiots agree, I guess that nullifies objective reality.

314 jonturner  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 6:35:16pm

Oh, thank goodness. Now I can go back to despising the French.

315 siiras  Thu, Jul 5, 2007 9:37:12pm

The French have always and only looked after #1, that is themselves and have the gall/gaul to criticize the one nation that is not totally ruled by self-interest, i.e. the United States.

The cheese eaters never lose a chance to bite the hand that fed them, first by helping liberate their ungrateful derrieres from the Germans and rebuild, with loans that were never repaid. Next, they lolled under the American funded defence umbrella which allowed all European nations to spend their savings on social benefits they actually can't afford with their miserable productivity and unemployment. France has always been at the forefront of the toxic anti-Americanism that has seized the EU out of sheer envy and inability to accept that their time has passed and they are a 3rd rate power.

The French have made shameless common cause with anyone that they think can oppose America. Mitterand's willingness to let hundreds of thousands die to prevent some mythical Anglo-Saxon encroachment in Rwanda speaks of his foolish paranoia and the typical marxist's tolerance of genocide to advance his ideology and as he saw it, his nation. What's a few hundred thousand black lives in Africa compared to France's pathetic need to see herself as still a great player?

France has put the shiv between American shoulders countless times at NATO and the UN, the last time with the Iraq war while trying to protect its lucrative oil contracts with Hussein. It was the French (and Russians) who were willing to see blood continue to be spilled (by Hussein) for oil.

In addition, Quebec is the albatross around Canada's neck dragging it down because of French dominance there as well. Their main news sources come directly from France, the country Quebec French wouldn't lift a finger to help against the Germans. It was English Canada that moved the nation to come to Europe's aid and the thanks THEY got was the typical French one of encouraging the break up of their country ever since.

The entire EU was yet another French plot to get their numbers up to counter-balance the hated American power, and co-operating with Arab states was part of the grand plan. Look at the resulting mess! The French sorceror's apprentice is drowning in his own incompetence, but is endangering us as well.

With "friends" like the French, America doesn't need enemies.

316 SueG  Fri, Jul 6, 2007 5:04:37am

"She then goes on to point out that the websites claiming this are among the most clicked ones on the Internet, which means there has to be some truth to it."


That makes porn the absolute truth!


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