'Peace' movements cause wars, and worse wars, because they embolden those who should not be emboldened.

*spit*

first at last

nearly

It's bad to mix Scots tartan patterns with Keffiyeh patterns. What an insult after Glasgow.

Merchandise for historically clueless, blind, idiot left-wingers.

well that's the last time I buy something from Delia's.com

Other accessories:

Low Rider Bomb Belt
Embroidered Suicide Vest
Denim Burka
Hobo Nuke Concealer Tote
50% Less Rights

re: #5 FrogMarch

God forbid they should put down 'People' magazine and pick up a history book.

A true example that history is no longer taught in the schools.

History somehow is able to repeat itself among the useful idiots. And they claim to be the intellectuals.

Yes indeed Eric Blair would be proud.

Am I missing something or is it every time we see the "Ara-Scarf" its in different colors? Have they been closed out, dumped, dunked, and re-offered for sale? If that's the case, let's complain again and next time they'll be black.

-S-

Damn, those things ugly. They would go with an outfit only a Paris fashion designer could love.

here is the email link to create an complaint with this clueless retailer:

[Link: store.delias.com...]

the item is: Item#: 153055

I'm buying a peace scarf...to line the kitty litter box.

Peace scarf?! Who thinks this stuff up? Of course if their version of "peace" ever prevails they won't be in business very long.

re: #9 budfox

In "The Gathering Storm" Winston Churchill equates the Koran and Mein Kampf.

(Don't read it)

I have just sent a suggestion to the company, that "Peace Scarf" is perhaps not the best name for such an item....I will be interesting to see the response, if any

David

BabbaZee
Get out your letter to Urban Outfitters and change the name.

re: #16 Dovid

Could you refer them to this thread? They could read it as it unfolds.

I liked this take on the issue:
only the impotent and the naive have the luxury of self-righteousness.

During a recent visit to Seattle, I encountered a young woman standing on a street corner demanding that President Bush take action to stop the genocide in Sudan. When I asked her if she thought Bush should send troops to the region as he did in Iraq, she responded with a blank stare. It was then that I realized she had not thought that far down the road. Although she wanted to use American power to stop genocide, she did not want to get her hands dirty accomplishing the task.

Dilemmas like hers are why I often remind my students and colleagues that only the impotent and the naive have the luxury of self-righteousness. After our five-year experience in Iraq, Americans are also learning this lesson.

[Link: archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com...]

What next?

The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

Peace Scarf. Cotton. Turquoise-multi. One Size. Imported. Smells of sulfur.

re: #20 NoSubmission

What next?

The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

Well done!

If the various retailers insist on selling various versions of the peace murder scarves they ought to use that first image from the Marketing Peace to the clueless. It is important for the very culturally sensitive to see how to wear them properly.

To the left, "peace" means America loses.

re: #19 jcm

Self-righteousness is a form of narciscism (sp). No one is perfect.

re: #20 NoSubmission

What next?

The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

buy now!Avoid the rush

OK, children, how long is it going to take everyone to learn that not every kaffiyeh is a Palestinian kaffiyeh? Charles, I'm disappointed with you.

re: #21 haakondahl

Smells of sulfur? Or camel sh*t?

...the Palestinian kaffiyeh, symbol of the intifada and decades of violence and terrorism

It really is a terrorist scarf. The only people that I have seen wear kaffiyeh's in America are pro-terrorist activists at protests (see guy in first and third picture).

They should not be marketed to normal children. They should not give respectability to a symbol of violence and terrorism.

re: #26 mahatma coat

re: #20 NoSubmission

What next?
The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

buy now!Avoid the rush

Ships flat.

Yes ma'am, right down this aisle past our Che t-shirt display...

And, for that perfect touch, don't forget to walk three steps behind your boyfriend when you're wearing your kaffiyeh.

re: #29 insanity police

...the Palestinian kaffiyeh, symbol of the intifada and decades of violence and terrorism

It really is a terrorist scarf. The only people that I have seen wear kaffiyehs in America are pro-terrorist activists at protests (see guy in first and third picture).

They should not be marketed to normal children. They should not give respectability to a symbol of violence and terrorism.

[Link: antiracistblog.blogspot.com...]

No little red beret? Che's offended.

re: #26 mahatma coat

re: #20 NoSubmission

What next?

The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

buy now!Avoid the rush

In this year' trendy Caterpillar yellow.

I just emailed them using their online merchandise request form:

Hi. I was hoping to dress my little girls in a suicide bomb belt. Will you be accessorizing this anytime soon? As a progressive and diverse family, we would love to buy Palesitinian bomber belts for our tikes. Just to piss off the Americans in our neighborhood!

LOL

I bumped into one of those Che shirt wearing moonbats in Seattle a while back.

I asked, "You heard of of "la violencia"?"
Answer, "No"
I explained, "A group of rebels is looking for recurits, they stop and board a bus. They take all the boys between 13 and 17 and kill everyone else on the bus, women, babies, old men, everyone, that's how Che built is army in South America."
No reply other than a hateful glare.

Terrorist Gang colors. That's what they really are. It not really any different than wearing a swastika armband, given the anti-Semitism of the principle terrorist gangs that wear this rag.

Here's a scarily large picture of Arafat showing the detail of his kaffiyeh.

On the website of the Israeli peace bloc (naturally).

The kaffiyeh is indeed a symbol of hate, just as Che T-shirts and Mao tote bags are. People who wear these in Western society are the L3 moonbats, or the clueless and uneducated youth who were government "schooled" by the same moonbats.

re: #27 mikeysdca

OK, children, how long is it going to take everyone to learn that not every kaffiyeh is a Palestinian kaffiyeh? Charles, I'm disappointed with you.

If someone wore a red shirt with a black swastika on it that, would you say that it does not mean the Nazi swastika? Perhaps there is some obscure indigenous Central American tribe from the 6th century that used the swastika in one of their ceremonies?

Yeah, the swastika is a symbol of the rebirt and renewal of the corn crop, that's the ticket!

"Peace Scarf", my ass. That's about all it's good for, wiping.

SO, it's a peace scarf now, eh? All those harsh words, threats, and burning flags was just a joke now? Your going to college but are you learning anything? One last question, what is it you want etched onto your tomb stone: "Peace At Any Cost?"

re: #12 dr. akim ullsheetbay

here is the email link to create an complaint with this clueless retailer:

[Link: store.delias.com...]

the item is: Item#: 153055

Here's the cluebat I sent them:

Regarding item #153055:

Peace scarf, my rear end! Appeasement scarf would be a better term, IMO. I am beyond horrified that you are marketing this symbol of "Phakestinian" violence, blind hatred and anti-Semitism as a fashion accessory to the young and clueless! What's next? Designer bomb belts for the chic, young, urban hipster?

Openly offering a symbol of Islamic fanatics who have the ultimate goal of instituting an oppressive society based on sharia law while wiping out Israel, I suppose, is not that appealing of a marketing campaign.

Could you imagine if Kirsten Dunce was confronted with that information? She probably would react the same way she did when she was told the swastika wasn't the "spinning symbol of happy times".

That item reminds me: I need to get out my Peace Pistol ™ and my Peace Ammo ™ and get on down to the Peace Range ™ for some practice.

re: #44 nemo

"spinning symbol of happy times".

LOL!

I heard black knit ski masks are going to be big this Fall.

Maybe its reverse psychology. Maybe it'll drive the jihadis nuts to see their scarves getting bastardized with weirdo colors and a new meaning attached to them.

I was looking at DK this am and found a diary regarding an article by Johann Hari, The Ship of Fools, published in The Independent.

He writes about a cruise that he went on sponsored by the National Review. His screed regarding the people he met is simply disgusting. The fact that the DK's are agreeing with him is even worse!

Not being a savvy computer person, I could not figure out how to link to it. Suffice it to say the diary and the article are full of hate and downright nastiness. This young man was probably wearing one of these lovely scarves.

It is time to stop rewarding bad behavior.

re: #48 ChenZhen

Maybe its reverse psychology. Maybe it'll drive the jihadis nuts to see their scarves getting bastardized with weirdo colors and a new meaning attached to them.

Maybe a super model in a bikini wearing a scarf?

re: #45 Jack Reacher

I agree brother.

Peace through superior firepower. I really need to go sight in my scope on my new rifle.

So herring-bone and plaid equal terrorist? I don't get it.

I've just sent my complaint off. As they are a quoted company please mention the fact that the markets don't like to be involved with a company who promote terrorism.

A side mention of the DHS wouldn't go amiss...

re: #27 mikeysdca

OK, children, how long is it going to take everyone to learn that not every kaffiyeh is a Palestinian kaffiyeh? Charles, I'm disappointed with you.

I'll try to carry on somehow.

As pictured, it would make a fine toilet bowl cushion.

fashion is a hoax today. it's not abt. a quality, well made, attractive garment that looks flattering on the person. so much that these fashion slaves buy today is made in china and is just cheap junk. i meet young people everyday who have never seen a lined dress or a properly constructed jacket. so many shoppers are stupid gullible people who want to fit in, even if that means ie. they look like really fat slobs because who could look good in a hip hugger pleat chopped off at the knee w' a 2" cuff. in other words these arafat scarves will probably sell because the unscrupulous money grubbing co. has a great marketing compaign and people are naive. ok i have to stop thinking abt. this or i'll have a conniption fit.

Ok, it's being marketed as if it were arabic. So it is fraudulent and pro terror. A two-fer; for troofers!

Progressives (progs) look at Orwell's 1984 as an instruction manual.

Of course it's a peace scarf. When islam reigns, there will be peace.

/disgusting

Fake, mis-represented, anti-Israel, anti-American: the perfect accessory(accessory is the operative word, in this case) for the uninformed, gullible leftist. ..........................................(Not that there's anything wrong with that! It's a free country and people can embrace any ideology they want!)................................../Seinfield running joke reference

re: #27 mikeysdca

"OK, children, how long is it going to take everyone to learn that not every kaffiyeh is a Palestinian kaffiyeh? Charles, I'm disappointed with you."

Ok "child", I guess it's ok to go around spray painting swastikas all over the place as long as they're of the ancient Hindu religious variety eh? Remember, Hitler wasn't the first to use the symbol right?

Let's all go around wearing ancient Hindu swastikas and non-Palestinian kaffiyehs to show the world how cute and superior we are.

We should send mass emails to this website including pictures of victims of terrorists who wear such scarf.

re: #20 NoSubmission

What next?

The St. Pancake Yoga Peace Mat?

Hah!
I just bought my first yoga mat and wanted to personalize it.
Now I know I don't have to put my name on it, just a little 'dozer outline.
(Maybe at 61 I/m too old to become flexible, but I'm gonna try it at least for a month.)

re: #48 ChenZhen

Maybe its reverse psychology. Maybe it'll drive the jihadis nuts to see their scarves getting bastardized with weirdo colors and a new meaning attached to them.

I think us oldsters did that with baggy pants. LOL!
My dad could out-baggy pant the baddest gangsta!

Now you only see them on white boy wanna-be's.

So, who knows? Maybe you're right.
The Fifth Element had a burkha-clad diva.....and there wasn't even a fatwa!

Just calling it a "peace" scarf is insulting in the extreme.

#49, I want to read it so I got your link
[Link: news.independent.co.uk...]

re: #43 Clairevoyant1

I called it a Perpetual War Against Israel scarf.

can you picture americans ,during the 2nd world war, bopping around our country in leder hosen and dirndl dresses?

I find the whole 'peace scarf' issue somewhat disturbing. I don't think that the fashionista types would ever realize this scarf is, in fact, linked to the intifada. Even if that was pointed out to them, I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't know what the intifada is, and probably couldn't even point out the Middle East on a map.

So what is the purpose of pushing intifada fashion? It can't be to make the youth aware of the *plight of the poor, poor Palestinians* because it is not linked to them on the site in any way. Is it another attempt to psychologically link 'intifada' with 'peace?' That seems unlikely, since, once again, 'intifada' is never mentioned in the ad.

The only reasonable explanation I can fathom (and it's not that good) is that this is a subtle psychological trick- youths will see the scarf, and the word 'peace.' At some point, they'll also see unkept, unwashed Arabic men wearing this accessory and equate the word 'peace' with those men.

Of course, they're betting that the fashionista types might actually see a newscast. And we all know that will only happen if Paris Hilton is in jail again.

re: #69 shibumi

a subtle psychological trick

"Oh look, they are wearinng "peace scarves". Just like me. They must be the good guys. "

re: #68 nyc redneck
I can picture it(lol)but they wouldn't have got too far

*spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit*
*spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit*

(Dehydrating; drinking water).

*spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit*
*spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit* *spit*

(Dehydrating; switched to beer).

PARIS! PLEASE! SHOW US THE WAY!

(More Beer)

Phuck ‘em.

As long as one end of it's tied around a crossbeam while they're wearing it, yeah, that's one airwalked step towards peace.

re: #71 mahatma coat

re: #68 nyc redneck
I can picture it(lol)but they wouldn't have got too far

precisely!

it's frightening how anything goes now.

It's Orwell in a blender.

We should start wearing the yellow stars now before they make us.

The ad says the scarf is imported. I wonder, from where?

Truth is not important to these people, it's all about feelings and emotional responses. Black is white, up is down, violent people who blow up pizza parlors full of innocent citizens are peaceful...

I just sent an e-mail to Delias, advising that I will no longer allow my daughter to buy from them, and I tried to give them a "clue" that their name for this item is wayyyy off base. Anxiously awaiting their response . . .

ok a bit long ,a bit dry but it definitely gets to the nub of the problem.....and language these days is definitely becoming a problem....

whoops ...forgot the link
[Link: www.k-1.com...]

WRT your "Peace Scarf" Item#: 153055

Never in the history of retail has an item been quite so totally misnamed. The scarf you are selling was originally worn and made popular by Yassir Arafat, a man who practically invented terrorism, and who was personally responsible for the murder of many Israelis AND Americans.

It's a shame that you are encouraging young people to buy this universal symbol of terrorism by duping them with the misnomer "Peace".

Up until now, my daughter has been a regular and loyal customer of your King of Prussia store. Not anymore!

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Maybe yes. Maybe no.

I still say we should co-opt this garment and remarket it for our own purposes. Steal their symbol. If we were to issue our own sand colored kaffiyeh to every Marine and Army soldier in theater, it would go a long way toward changing opinions of the item. The troops are using similar scarves anyway.

/ drive by posting

Australian special forces

re: #59 pegcity

i saw some fucker wearing one of thsoe yesterday, i wanted to punch him in the face

How about talking first?

re: #17 EC Marm

BabbaZee
Get out your letter to Urban Outfitters and change the name.

DONE!

It's" chick" and "in" to dress the protest garb when you are a white affluent airhead with nothing in your vacant noggin but which nail polish will coodinate with your tie dyed retro funky Arab scarf come Palestinian Terrorist sybol---no different from the Nazi SS and German Panzer garb still so prevalent in the wardrobes of the well fed miscreant antisocial --I'ts called marketing and has no more impact on public attitudes or lasting political implication than the fad of the "pet rock"---it's time to sell a similar scarf emblazened with thousands of tiny Mogen Davids and the Arabic inscription of" expell these Sandmonkey Terrorist Swine squatters in Eretz Yisrael"--that might be a best seller thru the LGF Fashion Store!

Company profile (including names of officers, address & phone) for Delia's.

/if I didn't actually print the info in this post does this still get deleted?

surrender scarf!

re: #27 mikeysdca

OK, children, how long is it going to take everyone to learn that not every kaffiyeh is a Palestinian kaffiyeh? Charles, I'm disappointed with you.

I hope you have read the posts here as well as the related links and have changed your tune.

It isn't Charles that should be the focus of your disappointment.

Also, it's an ugly scarf, it's way overpriced, and you don't need a scarf.

#85 Kohenan The Barbarian

go ahead and tell up how you really feel.

re: #27 mikeysdca

regardless of whose 'brand' of kaffiyeh, it is a symbol of terror.

it is globally associated with the mahujahdeen at this point.

even the morons at this retailer are aware that there must be some controversy by spinning it as a 'peace' scarf.

please don't try to fool us 'children' that you are not one of them by trying to dissassociate the 'peace' scarf with any kaffiyeh wearing murderous terrorist.

re: #85 Kohenan The Barbarian

it's time to sell a similar scarf emblazened with thousands of tiny Mogen Davids and the Arabic inscription of" expell these Sandmonkey Terrorist Swine squatters in Eretz Yisrael"

Well, this is one way the average person can fight back. After running into a group of moonbats myself, I vowed after that confrontation that I would never stay silent if moonbats spoke around me again. FAR too long we as a society have been following the mantra of live and let live..and people are allowed to have a difference of opinion.

I think we are starting to wake up and see the limits of those two mantras, your rights end the second you take steps to support my rights to end.

re: #86 littleoldlady

Company profile (including names of officers, address & phone) for Delia's.

/if I didn't actually print the info in this post does this still get deleted?

if you check out the comapny officers one finds a matthew fesbach...

google him and find a scientologist adherent.

cults helping cults.

my ullshitbay detector is going off the wall.

re: #82 ratherdashing

perhaps if they rename it 'the peace enforcing scarf' it'll catch on.

or maybe 'the look what i took off the dead terrorist scarf'....

I sent Delia's a comment of my own:

Why are you marketing the type of scarf traditionally worn by terrorists who kill and maim innocent women and children in the name of their God as a 'peace scarf'? Since when did pure evil become a fashion statement? I know where I'm not going to buy my clothes in the future.

They required me to submit my phone number and email, so if I hear from them, I'll post it here!

re: #85 Kohenan The Barbarian

This is not the first time a store has sold one of these things (Urban Outfitters). And (was it?) yesterday there was a page from a fashion magazine for young girls that featured some actress wearing it as well. The kids are going to wear this, not because they're protesting anything or making a political statement, but because the stores are offering them and the magazines are showing them on their role models.

What no doubt happened was some "edgy" designer saw them worn at street protests and picked up the style, probably having no clue that it was symbolic in any way. I'd be willing to bet there's no malice - incredible ignorance, yes, but no malice.

We could let it go and next year you'd find them on the clearance rack at Value City. Or we can contact the company and educate someone. Unfortunately fashionistas are not exactly known for their awareness of the bigger world around them....

re: #93 dr. akim ullsheetbay

They recently hired Stephen Feldman as a CFO. Coincidently, Feldman used to work for Urban Outfitters. (But that was BEFORE the scarf brouhaha). :-)

Anyway, Feshbach is chairman of the board. I'd be a lot more concerned about what Robert Bernard (CEO) was about.

Iran and Hamastan: A Comprehensive Overview

re: #34 mo foe
Not avoid the rush - avoid the crush.

Let me guess. IF kids pick up on this trend? There's a good chance fights would break out in schools. So administrators would outlaw this.

For some reason we're told that kids would follow blindly. That they're as warped as the elite kids, are. Which is not true.

And, IF this was a "new" fashion statement ... How come it didn't take hold, before?

You can't create a "fashion trend" by tictate.

IF it was up to Vogue, do you think you'd see Croc's on people's feet?

Again, it's just a question of focus. If you're buying this wholesale, lots of luck. The wrong color schemes can't even be sold to the Saudi's for schmatas.

OT but this is interesting.

Egypt has barred the meddlesome former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark from Islamist trial.
Egypt gives Ramsey Clark the middle finger

He's just like Jimmy Carter, a gadabout trouble maker and defender of despots.

Wonder if it's OK to wear a white one after Labor Day?

/sarc

OKay. What about for Halloween? Especially if kids attend a school forbidding costumes?

I'm still guessing the idiots who buy this wholesale are gonna be stuck with unsold merchandise. Maybe, they can tie them up and make hobo bags out of them?

IF hollywood kids wear this, it doesn't count.

Croc's they're not.

And, Nike's they're definitely not.

Of course, the hollywood kids show cleavage. Maybe, they'll wrap these as bandanas, around their pony tails, on bad hair days? I'm just trying to "halp."

Peace results from superior firepower, not from a silly scarf worn around the necks of naive fools.

Oh man. You wear one of these with a Che T-Shirt and you are soooooooo in!

this is disgusting. absolutely disgusting. i have no words, and i'm a law student - rarely am i speechless.

Here is the response from Naomi of Delia....I inquired about the Keffiyeh as a Peace Scarf....perhaps a kind call to their 800 number would be in order.

Dovid

------------------

Here is my orignial email
Dear Sir or Madam:

You have a product which you call the "Peace
Scarf".[Link: store.delias.com...]
If you take a closer look this style of scarf is actually a Palestinian
keffiyah, see [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] While I am less
interested in the merits of the ongoing Arab Israeli conflict, it
strains credulity to call the Keffiyah a "Peace Scraf". Please consider
changing the name or better yet not offer this product at all.

Many thanks

David

--------------The response------------

Hi David,

Thank you for contacting us at delias.com. We will be happy to assist
you today.

Thanks for your feedback. We value your thoughts and concerns and try
to respond to all requests. We've passed along your comments to all the
right people, so your voice will be heard!

If you have any other questions or comments please email or call us at
1-888-533-5427 from 8am to 12am EST, 7 days a week. We appreciate your
business and are pleased to be able to assist you.

Thank you,

Naomi
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The fact that they call it a "Peace Scarf" means they know exactly what it is and what it represents. They cannot plead ignorance here. I look forward to their line of burkas that will no doubt be called the
"Girl Power" robe.

Can I get mine in the sawtooth pattern?

/sarc

Brigade Quartermaster Ltd. (actiongear.com) offers shamagh (aka, keffiyeh) as essential military attire for coalition forces;

SHEMAGH TRADITIONAL DESERT HEADDRESS

The classic Shemagh has been worn for centuries by people of the deserts who needed everyday protection from blowing sand and glaring, burning sun light. Made of soft 100% cotton, these headwraps are ideal for keeping sun, wind, and sand out of eyes and face. The U.S. Armed Forces, coalition partners and our customers in the First Gulf War and now in OEF- Afghanistan, and OIF- Iraq, have found them a necessity for protection from the misery of the desert.

Not only is it a traditional headdress, but it is a comfy sweat mop, dust wiper, field towel and filter when needed. It may be unusual, but it works! Instructions for tieing come with each Shemagh.

"comfy sweat mop, dust wiper, field towel and filter when needed".
Just what little Debbie needs on a day out in the mall.

re: #110 Terp Mole: Brigade Quartermaster Ltd. (actiongear.com) offers shamagh (aka, keffiyeh) as essential military attire for coalition forces

Naturally, this raises the issue of how "hip" these young hipsters are when they're merely aping ChimpyMcHalliburton imperial storm troopers.

Want to see this fashion trend disappear? Repackage it as Coalition Forces solidarity wear.

Tell a person wearing this thing on the street that there is blood sticking to their shawl.

And why should we be surprised that entrepenurial companies want to sell to the empty headed crowd? After all, they have money, so selling to moonbats is easy dough. Only in Europe and America.

Well if animal rights moonbats can throw fake "blood" on chicks wearing fur.................................

Who would think on 9/12 that a few years in the future US companies would be going out of their way to support terrorism.

Somebody call their marketing department.

I got the perfect marketing idea.

Buy 5 of these things and get a free AK-47!

re: #108 RobCon

The fact that they call it a "Peace Scarf" means they know exactly what it is and what it represents.

Precisely! This is why I don't believe in innocence.

Didn't you know? Anti semitism is the new black!

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    After Kirsten wore hers the other night, I found David Beckham, Matt Lauer, Ricky Martin, and even the famous Dylan doing the same.  Suddenly, I'm finding myself unable to stand up to the peer-group pressure, I'm getting the urge to buy one myself ...

    It'll make an excellent dog collar, I'm thinking ... something like or even like ...

}:)     ['Course it'll end up w/bacon grease on it anyway ...]

Maybe a few photos of blown off heads of suicide bombers with the scarf nearby would put off a few of these ignorant uber consumers. There was one in some mag a couple of years ago - a head of a bomber just sitting in the middle of the road, eyes closed, as if it was still on a body. Nothing like a creeped-out yeeech. There are also the photos of the wrapped up guys sawing off victims heads - perhaps with the caption: "What we stand for." Thepeople who wear such things do not believe it's real or that it has anything tangible to do with them.

#119 shimra

Didn't you know? Anti semitism is the new black!

I thought anti-semitism and black have gone together for ages.
I think it was the SS that started that fashon.

My message to Delia's:

What kind of buyers do you people have who would offer a product known to be the preferred attire of murderers and terrorists?

It shows an utter lack of respect for the thousands killed by people wearing your 'Peace Scarf' Item #153055.

Just because the age of your consumers precludes them from having any education regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, does not give you an excuse to market this hateful item to them.

Sincerely,

True story:

I lived in an 1920's-built apartment building during the 1990's and the its tile work was embellished with various good luck symbols from around the world.

Sharmrocks
Fleur de lis

and
Swastikas!

No $hit. Every third or fourth 'highlight' tile was a swastika. Imagine trying to explain THAT to friends that came to visit.

Of course, when the building was built (circa 1923) the evil symbol didn't mean what it came to mean a few short years later.

What would happen if we sold a keffeya with a Star of David Pattern?

re: #127 mghirsch

What would happen if we sold a keffeya with a Star of David Pattern?

Would you buy it? ;-)

re: #62 docremulac

Let's all go around wearing ancient Hindu swastikas and non-Palestinian kaffiyehs to show the world how cute and superior we are.

Help us out here so that we don't get bogged down in swastikas when we're on the topic of scarves. What defines a "kaffiyeh"? The one in the ad doesn't look like Arafat's, and I've never seen one for sale anywhere, nor around anyone's neck, nor on top of anyone's head. Presuming that we're all alert on the ramparts, what exactly is it that we're looking for? Is it the pattern, symbols, shape, or color that's the identifier? Or are these things especially useful for strangling people (in a peaceful way)?

#35 Canadian ally

If you think your idea is original then check this out. Rosie's beat you to it already!

#131 Canadian ally

>If you think your idea is original then check this out. Rosie's beat you to >it already!

Did you ever see a little girl from any place but a wartorn or disaster site with eyes as sad as hers? Even in the picture with her having something akin to a smile, her eyes are sad. Wonder what her homelife is reallly like.

re: #46 NoSubmission

re: #44 nemo

"spinning symbol of happy times".

LOL!

Rotating title nomination...

I think it's time to voice our displeasure to Urban Outfitters-- Anti War Scarf? Well we know who's out to make a buck, now, aren't we. Well it is frankly the Dollar Store equivalent of Pier 1. Urban Outfitters is more aptly named Garbage Outfitters.

/Replace aren't with don't in 134.

Anyway I wonder realistically what UO's sales figures are, by city and state for those nasty symbols of terror. Shame on them!

re: #121 Kulhwch

    After Kirsten wore hers the other night, I found David Beckham, Matt Lauer, Ricky Martin, and even the famous Dylan doing the same.  Suddenly, I'm finding myself unable to stand up to the peer-group pressure, I'm getting the urge to buy one myself ...

    It'll make an excellent dog collar, I'm thinking ... something like or even like ...

}:)     ['Course it'll end up w/bacon grease on it anyway ...]

You don't need a scarf! No one needs a scarf, unless they're lost in the desert in a sandstorm.

On the other hand, Victoria Beckham has a Hebrew tattoo on her back. Mr. Beckham also has a Hebrew tattoo (as well as many other tattoos). He got the tat when he found out a couple of years ago that his mother was from a Jewish family, and then Mrs. Beckham got one as well. Mr. Beckham looks good without clothes (yes, it is an excuse to link to a pic of him). Mrs. Beckham is now sporting some really scary new hooters (called, among other things, nipples of mass destruction and frankenboobs), so she looks better from the back now (meow).

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

re: #136 Catttt

Mr. Beckham also has a Hebrew tattoo (as well as many other tattoos). He got the tat when he found out a couple of years ago that his mother was from a Jewish family, and then Mrs. Beckham got one as well.

Given the fact that the Torah expressly forbids Jews to get tattooed, Beckham's getting a Hebrew tattoo upon discovering he had Jewish antecedents is kind of like ordering a BLT to celebrate the discovery that one is descended from the Bal Shem Tov.

Well, the only thing is, he doesn't consider himself a Jew, as far as I can tell. He has a rather prominent cross tat on the back of his neck and a guardian angel on his back. I certainly doubt he has studied Judaism. I think his intent was to honor his mother.

I saw a Web site devoted to the pitfalls of getting Hebrew tats, since different Hebrew glyphs are very similar and change the meaning of words quite easily (had lots of examples).

These scarves are not something that exist in a vaccuum. By their style they are intended to be identified with the terrorist jihadis, and in particular those involved with the war against the Jews.

It is remarkable that just a half century after the Nazi Holocaust, there should be a market for symbols of the modern war against the Jews, and of terrorist jihad, and that those symbols should be called "peace scarves". What is the "peace" that they are referring to? Perhaps they are referring to the peace of the grave, which the suicide bombers provide. Or they are using the pax islamicus desired by the Islamists, in which islamofascism conquers the world, and this is their "peace". Or else they are just using the buzz word of the radical leftists, who called the wars and terrorism of the Communists a "peace" movement, and who call any war against civilization "peace".

Exactly, the object is a kaffiyeh, commonly worn by Arab men in the Middle East, but made famous worldwide by Palestinian terrorists including Yasser Arafat. This particular version is altered in color and perhaps design but it is unmistakably the kaffiyeh.

For some strange reason or set of reasons, the terrorist scarf has become a chic and trendy accessory for "peace" movements and progressive organizations in general. Perhaps the thinking is similar to that of those arguing the "al-Aqsa Intifada" was a struggle for liberation against imperial tyranny, rather than a campaign of terror and mass murder of innocent civilians.

kind of like ordering a BLT to celebrate the discovery that one is descended from the Bal Shem Tov.

I didn't DO that! Honest!
;-)

"Arafat Scarf" for sale

re: #143 uptight

"Arafat Scarf" for sale

Well, the good news is, you can't buy it! (Try clicking the "buy" button.)

re: #117 hous bin pharteen

Somebody call their marketing department.

I got the perfect marketing idea.

Buy 5 of these things and get a free AK-47!

Better yet they get a free suicide vest complete with plastic dynamite, so you can "play" terrorist.

re: #134 loggiedog

Urban Outfitters pulled the product from their line.

/follow Charles' links above

Some companies will do or make anything to make a buck. Period.

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

re: #138 Catttt

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

re: #136 Catttt

Mr. Beckham also has a Hebrew tattoo (as well as many other tattoos). He got the tat when he found out a couple of years ago that his mother was from a Jewish family, and then Mrs. Beckham got one as well.

Given the fact that the Torah expressly forbids Jews to get tattooed, Beckham's getting a Hebrew tattoo upon discovering he had Jewish antecedents is kind of like ordering a BLT to celebrate the discovery that one is descended from the Bal Shem Tov.

Well, the only thing is, he doesn't consider himself a Jew, as far as I can tell. He has a rather prominent cross tat on the back of his neck and a guardian angel on his back. I certainly doubt he has studied Judaism. I think his intent was to honor his mother.
I saw a Web site devoted to the pitfalls of getting Hebrew tats, since different Hebrew glyphs are very similar and change the meaning of words quite easily (had lots of examples).

My sister sent me a picture, which I have since alas deleted, of some gibberish which a co-worker's husband had inked upon himself in the wake of the Mel Gibson film. The hubby had been told that he was getting something or other in Aramaic, but....no.

The kind thing was not to tell him. My sister was very kind.

Ha. I also read where Mr. Beckham got his wife's name spelled out in Hindi, but one of the glyphs is wrong. I think I'll stick to cat tats.

I just wrote to customer service over at Delias to ask if they were clueless or simply shilling for the bad guys? What a bunch of misguided fools!

George Orwell, 1942:

Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security.

let us not forget the voice of Fiona that went to a country that had been ravaged by Maoist rebels, she was carrying a "Mao' bag.

what a complete dip-shit.

but this is what passes for so called "intelligence" with the left.

I don't see what everyone is so steamed about -- it's just flair. Sheesh.

/"I don't like talking about my flair."

re: #152 wargammer2005

Just another example of how Hollywood halfwits like to "put on" their intelligence, like a belt or earrings. They cloak themselves in the controversial issue du jour to make themselves feel smart. They're too busy celebrating and worshipping themselves, whilst seeking adoration for their oversized egos, to actually research the issues in-depth.

Hey, how about an Isadora Duncan Peace Scarf?

#76 Jimash: We should start wearing the yellow stars now before they make us.

Ooh! "Yellow Star of Pride!" Comes with scented soap.

Can't wait to see Cameron Diaz pair this with her Mao bag. She ought to be a big hit at Live Earth 2 as she loudmouths and blather her vapidity to the lemmings who drool on Algore's photo.

"Peace Scarf", eh?

Here's a little truth-in-advertising photoshopped advertisement for you:

[Link: photo.xanga.com...]

(from the last time around, but still good)

When I returned from three years of travelling in 1990, I proudly wore a red and white checkered kaffiyeh that I purchased in Jordan. To me - it represented my travels, an indication of where I had visited. It invited conversation - and a chance for me to clear up stereotypes from those who had never visited this part of the world.

I stopped wearing this after 9/11. When I see AQ operatives, or rabid muslim demonstators, or hamas/hezbolla islamofascists, or Iraqi insurgents wearing the same or colored kaffiyeh - I've realized what a potent symbol of islamofascism and oppression it has become.

Sad to see it marketed to unsuspecting teens as a peace scarf. It is anything but...

My old kaffiyeh tablecloth has seen better days, and I really think this turquoise will go with my color scheme here. Nothing says refreshing intifada like turquoise! My old kaffiyeh? I think I'll keep it. Might come in handy as a towel the next time DesertSage and I get bombed.

I'd like to sound off on this, because I have a black and green kaffiyeh, which I wear on specific occasions for specific reasons. A big reason is because I've been so sickened by how our own language has been - for who knows how long - turned against us by scumbags.

eg, the Rainforest. Rainforest?!? What freaking rainforest? There's no rainforest, it's called a JUNGLE. Culturally, noone talks about jungles any more, because jungles have all kinds of nasty critters, plants and insects who look at humans and say "Hmmm...that looks good enough to eat..." (stay with me, I'm getting there)

Whereas a Rainforest is populated with cute, animated furry creatures who sing and dance and ask us to protect them...

eg, the Peace Sign. Two fingers is a peace sign?!? That was Churchill's Victory Sign, dammit! A symbol of willpower and stick-to-it-iveness which, unfortunately, seems all but lost in this day and age. I sometimes flash a Victory sign and tell folks YUP, THAT'S A VICTORY SIGN, NOT A PEACE SIGN.

That's right, I'm Fighting The Man - lots of guys in my community are reappropriating symbols of the left for their own use - or, in our case, deliberate misuse... You see it in language mostly, "right on", "groovy" and other hippie-ish or lefty language - mostly because it's retarded and makes us laugh, but also because I for one am tired of seeing scumbags taking my images frome me.

How many "peace protestors" wear surplus military clothing - yet haven't had a day of hardship or service their entire lives? That's the one that especially gets my goat.

So yup, I have a kaffiyeh. I actually obtained it while in Iraq. I used to wear it there when I was behind my sniper rifle. And now I wear it during specific training exercises when I can. And the next time I go to Aghanistan or Iraq (and I know I will), I'll bring it with me again.

I emailed the store to criticize them. I have no idea if it will do any good. But I've decided that I'm no longer going to ignore this kind of foolishness anymore. Perhaps if more people complained, there would be less of this.

re: #161 longrange

longrange, you rule. God bless you!

I, too, emailed delia's.com to express my dismay and disgust; I also told them that since I have 3 teen daughters, they just lost a bunch of potential business with this stupidity. Got the same auto response as everyone else.

What it will come down to is this: how many irate emails and phone calls versus how many actual orders for this piece of cr*p!

Seeing Kirsten Dunst in one horrified me, and there is no more Spidey for me, ever.

re: #161 longrange

I just wanted to say that I profoundly appreciate your service and fighting for our country as a sniper, which in the most literal sense makes our freedom and prosperity possible. As for the point about the kaffiyeh, yes, I have noticed quite a few of our special forces (in the broadest sense) wearing the scarf. This strikes me as an entirely different case than a person in the West wearing a kaffiyeh, which indeed on the global and cultural scene has become associated with the Al-Aqsa Intifada by the Palestinians.

I got to this late - but, I had to mention that in the past two days in Toronto, I have seen two different men wearing scarfs like this, each a different color. The first guy's had a purple tint to it, the second a yellow.

I thought it was weird and a blatant statement of support for terrorism.

Thanks, Yank & cookielady :)

And yup, you're right - when we wear it, it's TOTALLY different than when some clueless . . . person . . . wears it, IMHO.

Well folks,

Our emails to Delia*s worked! This is the email I just received.

Dear dELiA*s Customer,

Thank you for your e-mail and concern regarding the scarf featured. We

apologize that this item has offended anyone; this was not our
intention. Please be assured that our company did not intend to imply
any support for terrorism.

The name given to this item was originally suggested by our vendor and
will be changed online immediately and in future catalogs. We continue

to carefully reviewing each concern we receive.

Thank you,
dELiA*s Customer Service

dELIA*s is responding. I also got the following:

Dear dELiA*s Customer,

Thank you for your e-mail and concern regarding the scarf featured. We
apologize that this item has offended anyone; this was not our
intention. Please be assured that our company did not intend to imply
any support for terrorism.

The name given to this item was originally suggested by our vendor and
will be changed online immediately and in future catalogs. We continue
to carefully reviewing each concern we receive.

Thank you,
dELiA*s Customer Service

I think it's appropriate for all those who complained to write a "thank you," and maybe buy something from them.

I just checked the online catalog. It's now a "Euro-Scarf," which is perhaps ironically appropriate. Better that they shouldn't be selling it at all, and that they castrate the person who suggested the original name, but hey, it's still progress

I got the same response from them as #169 rebnatan