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Audio: Secretly Recorded UK Jihadi Voice Chat

Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:00:18 am PDT

While out on bail awaiting trial, Mizanur Rahman, one of the UK Islamic extremists sentenced to six years in jail yesterday for inciting violence, reached out to fellow Muslims via voice chat.

Dr. Rusty Shackleford (via Glen Jenvey) obtained a recording of one of those chats, from July 15, 2007, and I’ve taken the liberty of converting it to MP3 format and posting it here, so that as many people as possible have a chance to hear one of these creatures speak when he doesn’t know he’s being recorded.

It’s chilling stuff, as Rahman discusses with his online audience the need for every single Muslim to take part in global jihad, in order to kill every Jew in Israel. Here’s Dr. Rusty’s post at Jawa Report for more details: What Indicted Muslim Says while out on Bail: ‘Terrorize them’, ‘Kill Jews’, ‘Support Global Jihad’.

MP3 Audio

...And now when we are facing occupation in Muslim land: in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Kashmir, in Chechnya—all over the world occupation. And people fighting and bombing Muslims everywhere from the kuffar, from the Americans, and the British, and the Israelis. So, what must we do? Indeed, at that time when the kuffar enters the Muslim lands it is an obligation upon all Muslims—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim lands. When it becomes a war being declared openly to be global war affecting everybody. Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....it is [Arabic = obligation] to fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally. All three according to your capability. Those of us that are far away from the fighting, far away and not able to reach it. Or some people have the excuse because they are disabled or they are blind or for the women, for example. Those people, maybe they have an excuse from the physical fighting, but it does not mean that we cannot support them. We can support them. We can support them verbally. We can support them [jihadis] financially. We can support them with our tongues. Incite the believers. We can tease the enemy. Anger the enemy. Promote the jihad and the mujahideen. Inform the people of their obligation. Let the kuffar know that they are not fighting a few Muslims in Beirut, or a few Muslims in Palestine, they are fighting 1.5 billion Muslims. One Ummah [Muslim nation] united.

If they fight us in Palestine, the Muslims which will anger in London. And we’re going to speak out. We’re going to condemn them. And whatever else somebody has no capability at all. No money, no even a tongue to speak he can do [Arabic=prayer] at least. The least he can do is make [prayer] for Allah to destroy them. To throw them out. Not for ... we’re not going to make [prayer] for Allah, “Oh Allah give us two countries, two states in Palestine. To give us compromise. To give us back some land in Israel, and let them have the rest.” No, we go to make [prayer] for Allah to destroy them [Israel] completely. To make [prayer] to Allah to not one of them [Jews] is left in Israel, unless they are underground [dead]. Let Allah destroy them and give victory to the Muslims, all of the Muslims, and give us all of our land back and destroy all of our enemies.

Notice the bit about supporting the jihad “with our tongues.” This is exactly the same rhetoric we heard from the Muslim Students Union at the University of California Irvine on February 1, 2007, following a disrupted speech by Daniel Pipes. Here’s our post about that event, featuring a video recording of the speech: UC Irvine: MSU Calls for Israel to Be Wiped Out.

Our weapon, our jihad, our way of struggling in this country is with our tongues. We speak out, and we deflate their morale, and this is the best we can do right now. And our brothers and sisters on the other side of the world, they’re handling business in their own way. May Allah give them strength...

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1 spikester[deleted]  7/19/07 11:02:38 am
2 fed_up  7/19/07 11:04:49 am reply quote

Too bad the actual words of the terrorists and their stated intentions are what people usually ignore first.

3 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:04:57 am reply quote

Surely idiots like Keith Olbermann of MSNBC will heed these words.

4 spikester[deleted]  7/19/07 11:05:08 am
5 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:05:20 am reply quote

They support their troops more then the Democrats support ours.

6 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:06:56 am reply quote

Hey, Larry King, stop doing stories on celebrities' personal struggles and focus on the more important task at hand, will ya? Because, you know, surviving is a good thing.

7 Charles  7/19/07 11:07:27 am reply quote

By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted. I thought the message you get when you try to post 'FIRST!' would be enough to discourage it, but apparently not.

8 MandyManners  7/19/07 11:07:51 am reply quote

Well, there goes my case of the warm-and-fuzzies this afternoon.

9 Charles  7/19/07 11:08:13 am reply quote

Posts that contain clever spellings to get around our filters on slurs will also be deleted.

10 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:08:41 am reply quote

Wait, wait, I hear something. What was that? Sounds like the liberal media idiots are already marginalizing this as a tiny minority. Nothing to worry about, carry on.

11 Tricky Dick  7/19/07 11:09:22 am reply quote

That doesn't sound any different than whats' being preached in the majority of mosques in Britian, if not mosques world wide.

12 Fjordman  7/19/07 11:09:41 am reply quote

Jihad by the tongue is standard procedure when Muslims are not (yet) strong enough to impose their will on the infidels by brute force.

13 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:09:50 am reply quote

re:

14 Spionator  7/19/07 11:09:54 am reply quote

(TECH) In Firefox, pressing the "new comments" button while the mp3 is still playing will abort the audio and require a reload of the page to make it appear again.

15 Silhouette  7/19/07 11:10:03 am reply quote
To make [prayer] to Allah to not one of them [Jews] is left in Israel, unless they are underground [dead].

I thought the plan was to push them into the sea. They should make up their little genocidal minds.

Not that it is ever going to happen.

Note, LLL, that their goal isn't to live in peace together, but merely under Arab/Islam rule. They openly declare they want the land Jew-free, even if they're in charge. THIS is apartheid. THIS is genocide. Contrast and compare to what you accuse Israel of doing. Compare and contrast to the Arab Muslims living freely inside Israel, voting, serving in office, equal in all regards, save that they are not required to serve in the military.

16 galloping granny  7/19/07 11:10:19 am reply quote

re: #9 Charles

Also, posts that contain clever spellings to get around our filters on slurs will also be deleted.

You ever have days you feel like you're running a zoo?

RE the tape, it would be nice if Fox would give it a little air time.

17 spikester  7/19/07 11:10:22 am reply quote

#7 Charles

I heard THAT!

18 wvobiwan  7/19/07 11:10:24 am reply quote

My favorite line:

"Let Allah destroy them and give victory to the Muslims, all of the Muslims, and give us all of our land back and destroy all of our enemies."

Which land is yours Islamist? Palestine? There is no Palestine dumbshit, only occupied Israel.

Also, how then does this tool explain Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines, Timor, Thailand, and everywhere else in the world they are invading?

Islam will soon only be practiced in Hell due to this kind of ignorant Islamic 'world view'. Someone on the last thread said that only moderate Muslims can stop the radicals - I disagree. I'm sure that if pressed, the free nations of the world can scape up 1.2 billion bullets.

19 Spenser (with an S)  7/19/07 11:10:38 am reply quote

Thank God for the internet and the new media! 10 years ago, this stuff would have sailed on by. Of course, it gives the jihadi's a new weapon also but they could have it for free from CNN if they wanted.

20 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:10:57 am reply quote

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21 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:11:07 am reply quote

re: #12 Fjordman

Jihad by the tongue is standard procedure when Muslims are not (yet) strong enough to impose their will on the infidels by brute force.

"And if the world continues to ignore the pink elephant in the room, we'll get more than just a few more Theo Van Goghs.

22 Dustyvet  7/19/07 11:11:17 am reply quote

re: #7 Charles

By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted. I thought the message you get when you try to post 'FIRST!' would be enough to discourage it, but apparently not.

Thanks Charles!

23 Charles  7/19/07 11:11:24 am reply quote

That's right -- 'new comments' does interrupt the playback. Not a bug; that's how it needs to work.

24 Dar ul Harb  7/19/07 11:11:30 am reply quote

Haven't said it in a while...

ROPMA

25 observer  7/19/07 11:11:47 am reply quote

Hardly urprising. A horror just as great is the unwillingnes of leaders and elites in the West to acknowledge the desires in the hearts and minds of many Muslims.
They will, as usual, condemn these sentiments as coming from a small segment of "extremist" instead. They know but refuse to make the comparison to Nazi Germany, where it took the actions and acqiescence of more than a small group of extremist to build and run so vast a killing machine.

26 Victor  7/19/07 11:12:18 am reply quote

#7 Charles 7/19/2007 11:07:27 am PDT

"By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted."

Good decision. Thanks, Charles.

27 stuiec  7/19/07 11:12:51 am reply quote

Pardon me for being dense, but what makes a land "Muslim land"?

I understand "Arab land," "Turkish land," etc. But, given that (for example) Sudan is a "Muslim land" and yet we see Arab Muslims killing Black African Muslims, isn't "Muslim land" a term and a concept that ought to be expunged from the Western lexicon and denounced every time it is uttered by anyone anywhere?

28 Beagle  7/19/07 11:12:52 am reply quote

If you read jihadi literature, and now would be a good time for the so-called experts (*cough* Scheuer *cough*) to start doing it, there's three major kinds of jihad: tongue, money, and actual fighting (qital). Money being fungible, a donation to "children and families" frees up money for bomb belts and bullets. If you think about it, so-called aid money is really pension money for the families of 'martyrs.'

29 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:13:32 am reply quote

re: #13 bulwrk

Lindsey Lohan's personal jihad against her inner demons affects us all.

My day would be so utterly meaningless without a dose of the latest Hollywood gossips. What's the latest fashion wear, nowadays? The Palestinian scarf?

30 Dar ul Harb  7/19/07 11:14:20 am reply quote

Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

31 bosforus  7/19/07 11:15:51 am reply quote
Or some people have the excuse because they are disabled or they are blind or for the women, for example

so does that mean that women also get handicap parking, you know, because they're so disabled?

32 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  7/19/07 11:16:14 am reply quote

OT

Funny e-mail form the boss-


This is a very interesting lesson:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.

These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals

2. Conservatives

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.


Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history:

It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

33 Kreuzueber Halbmond  7/19/07 11:16:30 am reply quote

I'm thinkin' his ass needs a few more 6 year sentences.

34 canadianally  7/19/07 11:16:40 am reply quote

This guy is out on bail? Lovely. I find his idealogies just a little bit unnerving. Doubly so if he is incarcerated, free to convert others 24/7 amongst the prison population. What a fine mess we have here in the West.

35 Fjordman  7/19/07 11:17:02 am reply quote

#21: We will become an entire civilization of Theo van Goghs if we don't permanently ban Muslim immigration and expel sharia-supporters from our lands. It's called "dhimmitude." Coming to a street near you soon.

If you live in Malmö in South Sweden, set to become the first Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority, it has already arrived:

Where Are You Then, My Friend?

Police fired warning shots after assault with knives

Some fifty policemen rushed to Rosengård following an alarm about several major violent episodes. A 20-year old man is now held under suspicion of attempting grave violence and violent riot. Several other are suspected of severe threats, or alternatively, incitement to riot.

RosengårdIt seemingly began as some trouble between various families. When the police patrols arrived the situation didn’t look critical, but emotions are in uproar, says sergeant Anders Telsing.

The riots began immediately after half past seven Sunday evening.

A 15-year old boy tried to grab a cell phone from another 15-year old boy. He refused to give the phone away — and was beaten up.

The two boys are neighbors in adjoining apartments on Ramels Road.

The victim went home to his father, who contacted the perpetrator’s parents and relatives. He was allegedly met with knives and at least one handgun.

The father fled the place, pursued by the neighbor and his relatives. “The father locked himself up in his apartment; they tried to get in. Someone mentions that they had a knife as well as a handgun and threatened him through the door’s peephole and the letterbox flap,” says Peter Lukic, police superintendent.

Someone sounded the alarm and around ten policemen arrived at the scene. Soon thereafter things calmed down.

About 45 minutes later the police intended to leave the area.

A little later a policeman activates the alarm function in his communications gear and calls for immediate backup.

Police superintendent Peter Lukic describes the situation until the alarm goes off:

“A lot of people start arriving from all sides. Bystanders talk about knives and handguns.

“A man with a knife breaks through the police line and runs toward the other family.

“I neutralize him, hold him to the ground and force him to let go of the knife at point blank.”

The man is being held, and right after one o’clock Sunday night he is arrested charged with suspicion of various severe threats.

“Then tempers heat up again. We’re obliged to get in the middle; more and more people arrive. We’re unsure about their armament. They start fighting in spite of us standing right among them.

“The situation is such that we can guarantee neither our own safety, nor that of others.”

36 wvobiwan  7/19/07 11:17:10 am reply quote

re: #30 Dar ul Harb

Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

Oh, so it's kinda like my morning dump, sans coffee? NOW it makes sense, thanks. :>D

37 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  7/19/07 11:17:26 am reply quote

What was Spikester's other post deleted for?

38 fed_up  7/19/07 11:18:14 am reply quote

#5

Sad cause its true

39 American Jewess In Jerusalem  7/19/07 11:18:14 am reply quote

Jihad by tongue? Ah, that explains a lot.

40 loppyd  7/19/07 11:18:30 am reply quote

re: #34 canadianally

This guy is out on bail? Lovely. I find his idealogies just a little
bit unnerving. Doubly so if he is incarcerated, free to convert others
24/7 amongst the prison population. What a fine mess we have here in
the West.


Was it a Boston judge?

41 Dr. Shalit  7/19/07 11:18:45 am reply quote

Mr. Rahman -

1. I HEAR YOU

2. I UNDERSTAND YOU

3. I OPPOSE YOU TO MY DYING BREATH!

-S-

42 Ojoe  7/19/07 11:18:56 am reply quote

I'm beyond tired of this jihadi stuff.

43 David E  7/19/07 11:18:58 am reply quote

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44 Milk Toast Intolerant  7/19/07 11:19:05 am reply quote

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45 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:20:18 am reply quote

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46 spikester  7/19/07 11:20:38 am reply quote

#37 Ed Mahmoun's Sock Puppet

Spelling variation of Muslim

47 Ben Hur  7/19/07 11:20:38 am reply quote

Why the need to secretly tape them?

They've been spewing this crap in England in public for over a decade.

It only matters now because of 7/7. When the Brits realized that Jews weren't the only infidels their guests were referring to.

Cherie understands.

48 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:20:39 am reply quote
that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....

deen=Deen (Arabic: دين) is an Arabic word usually translated as "way" or "path." In Islam, deen consists of living according to the laws prescribed in Qur'an.

50 vxbush  7/19/07 11:22:19 am reply quote

re: #48 ploome hineni

that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....

deen=Deen (Arabic: دين) is an Arabic word usually translated as "way" or "path." In Islam, deen consists of living according to the laws prescribed in Qur'an.

You're making me think I need to start learning Arabic, just so I'll know what they're saying.

And I was planning on starting Hebrew next....

51 Capt_Faust  7/19/07 11:22:19 am reply quote

This guy needs to get a big kick in the face...preferably with a pair of biker boots...

/ What a coincidence, I seem to have 2 pairs that will do the job...but then I stoop to his level...nah, I'll just tell the hooligans he was making fun of Manchester...that should do the job to this fu#ktard...

52 WriterMom  7/19/07 11:23:38 am reply quote

Jihadis either walk the walk, or talk the talk. Both are considered equal service to Stan.

53 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:24:06 am reply quote

re:

54 Psaturn  7/19/07 11:24:25 am reply quote

I decided not to play the MP3, I think I need NOT to hear the voice of evil!

55 Psaturn  7/19/07 11:25:19 am reply quote

re: #50 vxbush

re: #48 ploome hineni


that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....

deen=Deen (Arabic: دين) is an Arabic word usually translated as "way" or "path." In Islam, deen consists of living according to the laws prescribed in Qur'an.

You're making me think I need to start learning Arabic, just so I'll know what they're saying.

And I was planning on starting Hebrew next....

I think Hebrew is better! I am trying myself so I will be prepared when I go to Israel next!

56 WriterMom  7/19/07 11:26:12 am reply quote

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57 Psaturn  7/19/07 11:26:15 am reply quote

Ploomie! Would you like to meet me at the lounge?

58 Victor  7/19/07 11:26:15 am reply quote

from the translation:

"Indeed, at that time when the kuffar enters the Muslim lands it [jihad] is an obligation upon all Muslims—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim lands. When it becomes a war being declared openly to be global war affecting everybody. Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim [...] fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally.

This is basic Islamic jihad. It's a good argument for staying out of Muslim countries and against the folly of trying to "democratize" Islamic societies. It also argues against the folly of allowing Muslims behind infidel lines. Put them together and you get -- stay out of their lands and keep them out of ours. Separation and Containment. Good fences make good neighbors. Hugh Fitzgerald and Lawrence Auster, among others, have been making a persuasive case for this strategy.

59 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:26:18 am reply quote

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60 forrest  7/19/07 11:26:19 am reply quote
So, what must we do? Indeed, at that time when the kuffar Muslim enters the Muslim kuffar lands it is an obligation upon all Muslims kuffar(to fight)—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim kuffar lands.

fixed up

61 loppyd  7/19/07 11:26:31 am reply quote

BEN HUR!

It only matters now because of 7/7. When the Brits realized that Jews weren't the only infidels their guests were referring to.

Excellent point.

62 American Jewess In Jerusalem  7/19/07 11:26:58 am reply quote

OT -- another person caught stealing nuclear energy secrets to sell for profit. Our world is just getting so scary when our own people (this guy is not a Muslim) are willing to sell out his fellow countrymen.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

63 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  7/19/07 11:27:01 am reply quote

Hmmm, for some reason, the title of the thread up in my tab is just " # comments ".

64 Killer Tomato  7/19/07 11:27:10 am reply quote

re:

65 loppyd  7/19/07 11:27:29 am reply quote

re: #64 Killer Tomato

re: #54 Psaturn

Speaking of evil.... anyone know what our Congress is up to at the moment?

Do I dare ask?

66 David E  7/19/07 11:28:06 am reply quote

Now it is #comments#comments isn't it.

67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  7/19/07 11:28:16 am reply quote

" this is the best we can do right now. "

Right now, implying they will be taking a more aggressive role later.

68 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:28:16 am reply quote

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69 Capt_Faust  7/19/07 11:28:29 am reply quote

re: #27 stuiec

Pardon me for being dense, but what makes a land "Muslim land"?

At this point in time I seem to believe that it is any land that happens to hold residence any partitioner of isLAm, or any muslim passing through...at least that is what the rhetoric is...add to the fact that if it was Jewish or Christian land and was conquered, it is now Muslim land...if it was disputed land (Spain and the Moors) and taken over by Christians or Jews, it is still "muslim" land...

/That leaves Lithuania and those new islands that sprouted up in the Pacific, that are not "muslim" lands...

70 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:28:33 am reply quote

[Link: www.alislam.org...]

Jihad - Supreme Efforts in the Way of Allah (Guidance from Holy Qur'an)
Jihad with Sword
Jihad of the Pen
The Holy War (from An Elementary Study of Islam)
British Government and Jihad
Jihad - The True Islamic Concept Excerpts from the writings of The Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
The True Islamic Concept of Jihad by Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmadrh
What is Jihad? - Ahmadis Believe in Jihad
Fighting in the Cause of Allah (from Essence of Islam - Vol. 2)
Welcome the Second Coming (Saying of The Holy Prophet (pbuh))
Some Writings of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (1835-1908) (The Promised Messiah, peace be on him)
Why Muslims took up the sword? (Malfoozat)
Pen to fight pen (Malfoozat)
Jihad against the British Government in India? (Opinion of the Muslim Scholars)
"Suspension of Jihad" (from Truth About Ahmadiyya)
Islam and Terrorism
Terrorism of the Worst Type (from Murder in the Name of Allah)
Comparative Religious Teachings on WAR AND PEACE (from Life of Muhammad)
The Question of Divided Loyalty Some Parallels From History

71 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:29:23 am reply quote

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72 Killer Tomato  7/19/07 11:29:36 am reply quote

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73 taxfreekiller  7/19/07 11:29:52 am reply quote

one thing sure tfk will never sir any one on the blog.

74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  7/19/07 11:30:29 am reply quote

Posted on an earlier thread:

HAMAS:'Israel, Abbas plan to kill our leaders'

Gee, ya think?

75 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  7/19/07 11:30:48 am reply quote

Oh. A couple of times I worked around Charles ban on things like the name of a large arboreal animal combined with a generic term for a body extension from either the upper or lower trunk, which the code simply turned into "Muslim", by inserting some dummy HTML, like an underline tag, that LGF didn't accept, but then I figured, if Charles goes to the effort to keep words like that out of the posts, my creative work-arounds are only gonna get him mad, and he is the captain of this cruiseship, while I am only one of the more useful passengers to have around in case of bad weather.


Wouldn't want to have to row back to Barbados in a life-raft, if you follow the analogy.

76 Fjordman  7/19/07 11:30:48 am reply quote
Put them together and you get -- stay out of their lands and keep them out of ours. Separation and Containment. Good fences make good neighbors. Hugh Fitzgerald and Lawrence Auster, among others, have been making a persuasive case for this strategy.

This strategy is called separationism, and I'm very much in favor of it.

77 Iron Fist  7/19/07 11:31:25 am reply quote

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78 Killer Tomato  7/19/07 11:31:27 am reply quote

double sorry -
it wasn't rhetorical - I wondered if anyone had any updates.

pimf.....

Hey Charles, now that we have spell check, can we get grammer check? Or how about 'what I meant to say' check?

79 Silhouette  7/19/07 11:31:35 am reply quote

What makes a land Muslim land?

Let's go to the Toddler Rules to gain a better idea.

1. If I like it, it's mine.

2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.

3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.

4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.

5. If it's mine, it must NEVER appear to be yours in anyway.

6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.

7. If it looks just like mine, it is mine.

8. If I saw it first, it's mine.

80 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  7/19/07 11:31:54 am reply quote

Yup, now double " # comments " in the tab.

81 zmdavid  7/19/07 11:31:55 am reply quote

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82 lawhawk  7/19/07 11:32:42 am reply quote

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83 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:33:05 am reply quote

[Link: www.dislam.org...]

[Link: islam.rameez.net...]

print that out, and study it

they have both been deleted from the websites they were first on, and I found them on wayback

so either save to your hardrive or print them

84 Daisy  7/19/07 11:33:34 am reply quote

I'm sort of surprised he referred to Israel as Israel. This indicates he's not in complete denial of reality - which only compounds the evil he spouts.

85 Rootless Cosmo  7/19/07 11:34:19 am reply quote

The bad guys keep making it clear: it's them or it's us. When will we hear it, understand it and act on it?

Condolences to the family and friends of General Downing; he understood.

86 Sceptic Tank  7/19/07 11:34:25 am reply quote

These Islamic larvae are generational incarnation of the ongoing historical pogrom against Jews and Christians in The Mid East and now the worldwide theater. This article in The American Thinker illustrates the truly ludicrous behavior that must be addressed today.

Although the Arab-Israeli conflict, combined with the end of French colonial rule in North Africa, may have served as catalysts for this mass exodus, these phenomena were antedated by a more powerful underlying dynamic set in motion during the 19th century era of Western colonization. Historians Bat Ye'or and Norman Stillman have highlighted the profound political and psychosocial impact of the West's penetration into the Islamic world through the 19th and 20th centuries, which undermined (at least temporarily, and in part) the prevailing system of dhimmitude...
87 Mike C.  7/19/07 11:34:48 am reply quote

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88 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:35:21 am reply quote

re: #65 loppyd

re: #64 Killer Tomato


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89 taxfreekiller  7/19/07 11:36:11 am reply quote

#35

its called madness and or chaos
its the way, the way they lust for
its the way, they will be
its the way, they are
its the only way they know,
its the way and the wrong way

90 njdhockeyfan  7/19/07 11:36:16 am reply quote

OT:

Anyone know how easy this is to do?

Swedish woman gets superfast Internet

STOCKHOLM, Sweden - She is a latecomer to the information superhighway, but 75-year-old Sigbritt Lothberg is now cruising the Internet with a dizzying speed. Lothberg's 40 gigabits-per-second fiber-optic connection in Karlstad is believed to be the fastest residential uplink in the world, Karlstad city officials said.

In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer — many thousand times faster than most residential connections, said Hafsteinn Jonsson, head of the Karlstad city network unit.

Jonsson and Lothberg's son, Peter, worked together to install the connection.

The speed is reached using a new modulation technique that allows the sending of data between two routers placed up to 1,240 miles apart, without any transponders in between, Jonsson said.

"We wanted to show that that there are no limitations to Internet speed," he said.

Peter Lothberg, who is a networking expert, said he wanted to demonstrate the new technology while providing a computer link for his mother.

"She's a brand-new Internet user," Lothberg said by phone from California, where he lives. "She didn't even have a computer before."

His mother isn't exactly making the most of her high-speed connection. She only uses it to read Web-based newspapers.

91 loppyd  7/19/07 11:36:34 am reply quote

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92 vxbush  7/19/07 11:36:39 am reply quote

re: #79 Silhouette

What makes a land Muslim land?

Let's go to the Toddler Rules to gain a better idea.

1. If I like it, it's mine.
2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.
3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.
4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
5. If it's mine, it must NEVER appear to be yours in anyway.
6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.
7. If it looks just like mine, it is mine.
8. If I saw it first, it's mine.

You know, a lot can be learned by watching toddler behavior. It does, however, clearly demonstrate the lack of advances in socialization in the Muslim culture. That, and their general predilection for death.

93 miamitech  7/19/07 11:38:07 am reply quote

no more firsties? :-(

94 reloadingisnotahobby  7/19/07 11:38:37 am reply quote

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95 vxbush  7/19/07 11:38:44 am reply quote

re: #93 miamitech

no more firsties? :-(

And no more walkies, Gromit.

96 MrMom  7/19/07 11:39:04 am reply quote

re: #36 wvobiwan

re: #30 Dar ul Harb


Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

Oh, so it's kinda like my morning dump, sans coffee? NOW it makes sense, thanks. :>D

ROTFF! One of life's great pleasures. ;^) aaahhhhhhh....

97 Ben Hur  7/19/07 11:40:06 am reply quote

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98 sakublock  7/19/07 11:40:23 am reply quote

Sound rather desperate to me. Oh poor Islam, Oh poor muslims blah blah, we are oppressed, victim blah blah...

99 miamitech  7/19/07 11:40:25 am reply quote

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100 ploome hineni  7/19/07 11:41:20 am reply quote

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101 taxfreekiller  7/19/07 11:41:28 am reply quote

oh, slur, OK
not that not me,
tfk will list them
long list in fact
no slur's ever
long boring list
of their lies and fraud
with links like sausage

102 miamitech  7/19/07 11:41:59 am reply quote

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103 Silhouette  7/19/07 11:44:53 am reply quote

re: #94 reloadingisnotahobby

You've been to my wifes daycare ,haven't you.

Dang, how young is your wife?

;-0

104 njdhockeyfan  7/19/07 11:45:23 am reply quote

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105 bulwrk  7/19/07 11:45:34 am reply quote

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106 reloadingisnotahobby  7/19/07 11:46:11 am reply quote