No VISA for Tariq Ramadan

They can't sue us. Can we sue them?

Nah, Al-Jazeera's got Zawahiri under an exclusive.

The actions of the Islamofacists speak louder than words.

Just welcoming the new overlords from the Dhimmis at the Washington Post and Newsweek.

From the article...

The use of violence and weapons must be adjusted to the nature of the aggression itself: an armed aggression may justify an armed resistance if there is no other way to come to a peaceful agreement. But the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees as Abû Bakr, the first successor of the Prophet, stated following Muhammad’s teachings

Pardon me, but I like religions that don't have to get so specific about violence.

I suppose I should be surprised.
I suppose I should be disgusted.
But more and more this is becoming business as usual.

Everything Harry Mudd tells you is a lie.

sooner or later jimmy olsen is going to be wearing a kaffiyah...er i mean peace scarf...

Who’s next? Adolf Eichmann via seance. Maybe a guest piece by Martin Bormann. Why not?

Same ideaology, different era.

On the continuum of Islam, the definition of "moderate" is "not setting off bombs."

Must......diffuse......perception......that....... islamic radicalism.....is.........genuine.......so........ .our candidate wins election.......BEEP......Must.......diffuse......p erception.....that......

re: #12 TMF

So the WaPo is backing Obama?

Daniel Pipes: Tariq Ramadan is truth-challenged.

re: #13 Aladin Sane,

They're backing the Democrat. I don't think it really matters which one.

The Post has recently published Islamist propaganda from the spiritual leader of Hizballah, a Hamas leader, a radical Egyptian mufti, and now the Muslim Brotherhood.

How many articles from Ayaan Hirsi Ali has the Wapo published?

.

It’s just jaw-droppingly outrageous what’s going on here. The Post has recently published Islamist propaganda from the spiritual leader of Hizballah, a Hamas leader, a radical Egyptian mufti, and now the Muslim Brotherhood. Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

The subversives feel that the time for their historical occasion to destroy America is NOW and they press forward (well, in this case we should say "they press backward")(Ahead to the seventh century !).
The poor idiots think they can ride the tiger of islamism against Freedom and the free market economy.

They are just tools of the islamic imperialism today, exactly in the same way they were tools of the commie imperialism of the USSR.

They lost then, they will lose now.

But this time they will cause MORE suffering, more deaths.

But wait! THere's more from the Washington Post!

Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
By John L. Esposito
Sunday, July 22, 2007

Nearly half of Americans have a generally unfavorable view of Islam, according to a 2006 Washington Post-ABC News poll, a number has risen since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. That climate makes it easy to lose sight of the fact that the majority of mainstream Muslims hate terrorism and violence as much as we do -- and makes it hard for non-Muslims to know where to begin to try to understand a great world faith.

Like Judaism and Christianity, Islam originated in the Middle East. As F.E. Peters shows in "The Children of Abraham," the commonalities can be striking. Muslims worship the God of Abraham, as do Christians and Jews. Islam was seen as a continuation of the Abrahamic faith tradition, not a totally new religion. Muslims recognize the biblical prophets and believe in the holiness of God's revelations to Moses (in the Torah) and Jesus (in the Gospels). Indeed, Musa (Moses), Issa (Jesus) and Mariam (Mary) are common Muslim names.

Muslims believe in Islam's five pillars, which are straightforward and simple. To become a Muslim, one need only offer the faith's basic credo, "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the prophet of God." This statement reflects the two main fundamentals of Islamic faith: belief in the one true God, which carries with it a refusal to worship anything else (not money, not career, not ego), and the crucial importance of Muhammad, God's messenger.

Muhammad is the central role model for Muslims -- much like Jesus is for Christians, except solely human. He is seen as the ideal husband, father and friend, the ultimate political leader, general, diplomat and judge. Understanding Muhammad's special place in Muslim hearts helps us appreciate the widespread anger of many mainstream Muslims -- not just extremists -- with the denigration of a Muhammad-like figure in Salman Rushdie's 1988 novel "The Satanic Verses," the controversial 2005 Danish cartoons depicting Muhammad in unflattering lights or Pope Benedict XVI's 2006 speech quoting a long-dead Byzantine emperor who accused the prophet of bringing "only evil and inhuman" things into the world. Karen Armstrong's "Muhammad: A Prophet for Our Time" and Tariq Ramadan's "In the Footsteps of the Prophet: Lessons from the Life of Muhammad" provide fresh, perceptive views on his modern-day relevance.

The three next pillars of Islam are prayer, which is to be performed five times daily; giving alms, in the form of an annual wealth tax that helps support the poor; and fasting during daylight in the holy month of Ramadan. The fifth pillar requires that Muslims perform the pilgrimage (hajj) to Mecca at least once.

We tend to equate Islam with the Arab world, but the largest Muslim communities are found in Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India and Nigeria. Only about one in five of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims are Arabs. Islam is the second-largest religion in Europe and the third-largest in the United States.

The treatment of women under Islam is also wildly diverse. In countries such as Saudi Arabia, women must be fully covered in public, cannot drive cars and struggle for the right to vote. But elsewhere, Muslim women freely enter politics, drive motorcycles and wear everything from saris to pantsuits. Women can get university educations and pursue professional careers in Egypt, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia; they have been heads of state in Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia.

re: #16 Iron Fist

Yeah, I should have thought of that.

ALadin Sane

Not necessarily

WHichever Dem wins the nomination is ok by them

My guess is they are more Obama fans than Hillary, but really its 6 in one hand etc. on the terrorism issue.

re: #13 Aladin Sane Not yet..........they're just hedging their bets.
BTW, IMO, Hillary wins nomination, no problem, Obama never heard from again.

re: #15 ploome hineni,

If non-Muslims aren't slaves, then, to a Muslim, that is injustice.

Quaint little religion, isn't it?

This Tariq Ramadan is the same fellow George Mason University's Professor Peter Mandaville invited to lecture at some kumbaya thingy a couple years ago. Nice to know he's got a friend (or entire editorial board) at the WashingtonPOst rooting for known terrorists.

George Mason University in Jihadist Northern Virginia also invited Michael AlMoore (Sicko) to speak--with state tax dollars--in October 2004 for the proKerry team.

When it comes to muslims, "moderate" means that they would prefer that others do the beheadings.

re: #22 realwest

Gore/Obama.

Gore will announce around September.

Liberals think that if a Nazi is willing to soften or disguise his message to draw in the naive, that that somehow deserves greater acceptance.

re: #19 NoSubmission

From the article you posted.

The treatment of women under Islam is also wildly diverse.

Well now, that's a politically correct way of saying it, ain't it?

re: #27 FQ Kafir I agree with you about Gore, but don't think he'll be able to beat Hillary. And he'd never take the second spot again.

re: #30 Aladin Sane

re: #19 NoSubmission
From the article you posted.

The treatment of women under Islam is also wildly diverse.

Well now, that's a politically correct way of saying it, ain't it?

No kidding! I'm still stuck on this part:

Muhammad is the central role model for Muslims -- much like Jesus is for Christians, except solely human. He is seen as the ideal husband, father and friend, the ultimate political leader, general, diplomat and judge.

re: #31 realwest

Perhaps, but he's taking a rather Nixonesque route for 2008.

He's got a lot of buyers.
What a tool.

re: #32 NoSubmission

they left out pedophile!

Although cabinet spokespersons are presenting this as an achievement, the truth of the matter is that President Bush's call for an international summit is a blow to Israeli diplomacy and a warning sign as to the stability of relations between Israel and the United States

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #27 FQ Kafir

Gore/Edwards is their dream ticket. According to some Dem idiot (who thought he was a strategist) I overheard talking in a restaurant a couple weeks ago.

Al Gore following Nixon path.

the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

holding back the vomit

Yes, but he's a moderate extremist. Or an extreme moderate...

With no major hurricane activity Gore is out as a candidate.

re: #37 AK oilfield worker

That might work, but it doesn't have the "punch" of Gore/Obama.

re: #19 NoSubmission

Ugh.

re: #39 bosforus

the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

holding back the vomit

Guess they didn't get the memo in Iraq.

re: #42 Just_A_Grunt

Yep, he's waiting for a big storm to put an exclamation point on his "campaign."

re: #25 Cicero05

When it comes to muslims, "moderate" means that they would prefer that others do the beheadings.

A "moderate" Muslim is an atheist with good acting skills.

re: #19 NoSubmission

Esposito is a Saudi highly paid spokesman from Georgetown U.

The old Jesuits would be so proud...

NOT,
R

Mottaki: Iran talks with its enemy to help restore Iraq's security
....The US should pull out its forces from Iraq, he said, adding that the current problems of Iraq as well as the whole region emanated from the US wrong policies.

The American forces cannot restore Iraq's security, nor can they maintain their own security, he said.

"Insecurity stemming from aggression of aliens forces is now threatening the whole region," he said.

Iran has always respected all religious minorities, he said

. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

Very good essay on line yesterday, about how the EU is (a) turning Europe into a non-democratic government, and (b) giving away the shop to the Islamic world - without a vote!

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Fjordman: Why the European Union Must Go
...
EU integration represents "a gradual coup by government executives against legislatures, and by politicians against the citizens who elect them." This process is now sucking the reality of power from "traditional government institutions, while leaving these still formally intact. They still keep their old names — parliament, government, supreme court — so that their citizens do not get too alarmed, but their classical functions have been transformed."
...
The European Union is basically an attempt – a rather successful one so far – by the elites in European nation states to cooperate on usurping power, bypassing and eventually abolishing the democratic system, a slow-motion coup d'état. Ideas such as "promoting peace" are used as a pretext for this, a bone to fool the gullible masses and veil what is essentially a naked power grab. It works because the national parliaments still appear to be functioning as before.
...
The European Union is by its advocates presented as an organization devoted to promoting "peace." The EU never had anything to do with peace; it was and is a naked power grab by European elites who have used it to wage a cultural and demographic war against the very peoples and nations they were supposed to represent. Their appeasement of Muslims not only constitutes a threat to the survival of Europe, which it certainly does, it has destabilized the situation far beyond the borders of Europe. The Euro-Arab cooperation thus represents a threat to world peace. And since this cooperation has become a deeply entrenched feature of the EU, this leads to only one possible conclusion: The European Union must be dismantled as soon as possible.
...

So the headline today is that Bush/Rice are reaching out to the Muslim Brotherhood to oppose Syria? Are we really going to get in a race to the bottom with the EU? Gag a maggot.

#33
#38

Please don't besmirch Nixon (may he RIP) by calling Prince Albertus Gore Nixonian.

/Nixon was humble born yet a true statesman, whereas Al Goreus thinks he was born to rule and is a citizen of the Globally Warmed community.

What a smooth pile of p.r. presented to the Western audience. How reflective, how introspective, how intellectual... The disgusting part is that some will lap it up.

re: #45 Just_A_Grunt

how funny would it be though if suicide bombers started attacking orchards? i'd raise an eyebrow and give an affirming 'carry on'

re: #48 Render

hmm syntax afflicted...

Highly paid by the Saudis...

EH,
R

This is how clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan.

Islam has strict rules about when and how it is permissible to slaughter Israeli children and throw a street party to celebrate the deed.

No other religion has such strict rules.

Therefore, Islam is superior

/IslamoNazi

I fart in their general direction

OT -

The yoga person in the H&R Block blogad on the right - is that an ugly woman, or a man who needs a B-cup mansserie?

Speaking to a group of talented university students studying abroad, he said "We are now passing through a very crucial phase and this will uplift Iran's status in the world."
Uplifting Iran's political, cultural, scientific and technological status is a great phenomenon which would be materialized in the near future, he said.
"We have made many breakthroughs in various scientific fields," he said.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

Mujahideen have no problem planting poppy where plum trees ought to grow in Afghanistan.

Paleys have no problem tearing up fruit tree bearing greenhouses in Israel.

But let one infidel pull up an olive tree (aren't olives fruit?) and all HADES & the wrath of Mo be upon him or her.

Jimmy Carter Offers to Mediate Between Hamas, Fatah

Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - As Washington continues a policy of isolating the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas, former President Jimmy Carter reportedly has offered to mediate between Hamas and rival Palestinian faction, Fatah.

The Palestinian News Agency Ma'an reported that Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh met with Scott Custer, West Bank director of the Carter Center, in Haniyeh's Gaza Strip office. Custer told Haniyeh that Carter, a Democrat, was willing to mediate between the factions. Haniyeh okayed Carter's offer, the report said.

Sorry to interrupt guys, but this is just too bizarre.

Danish Candidate MP: "OK to Attack Danish Troops in Iraq"
link

Hint: She wears a headscarf.

Keep an eye on Muslims in your legislature, I'll say.
Oh wait.
"It's Ok to attack American troops" sounds almost Democrat to me, from what I was able to gather from that Dem-Con-@-Youtube recently.

re: #43 FQ Kafir

I agree, but who knows what goes on in the minds of Dhimmis, the guy I overheard talking said that was the highest polling combo.

OT, but somewhat related -

Here's today's update on the Holy Land Foundation trial going on here in Dallas.

re: #48 Render

re: #19 NoSubmission

Esposito is a Saudi highly paid spokesman from Georgetown U.
The old Jesuits would be so proud...
NOT,
R

I'm very familiar with Mr. Esposito. When I worked at Oxford University Press it was public knowledge that I refused to work on his book on principle. The only other time that happened in OUP history is when my former boss refused to work on Alan Dershowitz's book on the 2000 election because he represented the Lockerbie bombers.

the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

However, the "fruits" themselves are legitimate targets.

re: #55 FQ Kafir

This is how clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan.

HHHHHHHHAHAH!
oh my sides!

OT and maybe old news by now:
Secular fatwa against Canadian conservative website at Dhimmi Watch
Also
Activist's remarks about Islam, sex probed

If this is the offending quote:

I can't figure out why the homosexuals I ran into are on the side of the Muslims. After all, Muslims who practice Sharia law tend to advocate beheading homosexuals

then surely that can be verified. What's the problem? Will the Canadian Human Rights Commission have to witness an homegrown example of this?

re: #59 ploome hineni

re: #810 Render

re: #800 ploome hineni

crap...

Now I can't find it. Maybe the comment itself was deleted.

===

I do remember instantly having that little brother/big sister feeling when I read it.

"Hey! You can't say nasty things about my big sister, even if I do."

CAPS
LOCK,
R

Guardian quoted Larijani as saying, "Although Iran enjoys sufficient centrifuges to produce atomic bomb, the country has no intention to develop nuclear weapons in contrast with North Korea, which has pursued the trend.

The British newspaper also said that the Iranian top nuclear negotiator underlined the late Imam Khomeini and the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ali Khamenei opposed every attempt to produce or develop nuclear weapons, arguing that atomic bomb will increase unrest and chaos worldwide.

Chaos worldwide is what is needed to bring forth the 12 Imam. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #72 storagemanager

Guardian quoted Larijani as saying, "Although Iran enjoys sufficient centrifuges to produce atomic bomb, the country has no intention to develop nuclear weapons in contrast with North Korea, which has pursued the trend.
The British newspaper also said that the Iranian top nuclear negotiator underlined the late Imam Khomeini and the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ali Khamenei opposed every attempt to produce or develop nuclear weapons, arguing that atomic bomb will increase unrest and chaos worldwide.

Chaos worldwide is what is needed to bring forth the 12 Imam. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

All trumped by: It's OK to lie to infidels.

re: #30 Aladin Sane

re: #19 NoSubmission

From the article you posted.

The treatment of women under Islam is also wildly diverse.

Well now, that's a politically correct way of saying it, ain't it?

That's Islam... diverse people involved in activities.

OT:

Not that this is news to LGF...

Jehadis turn UK prisons into terror-training centres

London, July 25: The presence of a large number of terrorists in UK jails has virtually turned them into centres of jihadi madrassas, with hardened terrorists poaching young angry Muslims and turning them into radicals.

According to reports, new jihadi websites are being launched from within the jails' premises using mobile phones, which are illegally sneaked inside it.

These radicals, who move in groups, also intimidate jail staffs.

Steve Gough, vice-chairman of the Prison Officers Association (POA), expressed concern over this and said, "The radicalisation of young men is going to be our biggest problem over the next four or five years. If you look at the trials coming up we are possibly going to have hundreds more entering the prison system."

"The majority of the prison population is comprised angry young men, disenfranchised from society. These are ripe for radicalisation," a Pioneer report from London quoted him, as saying.

Incidents like jailed Al Qaeda members caught making jihadi websites from his cellphones have become frequent.

re: #63 PatFromGermany

Sorry to interrupt guys, but this is just too bizarre.

Danish Candidate MP: "OK to Attack Danish Troops in Iraq"
link

Hint: She wears a headscarf.

Keep an eye on Muslims in your legislature, I'll say.
Oh wait.
"It's Ok to attack American troops" sounds almost Democrat to me, from what I was able to gather from that Dem-Con-@-Youtube recently.

Another fine example of tolerating the intolerable. I will say that my
recent visit to Denmark confirms that this Dane commenting in the blog linked speaks for a lot of Danes:

"Isn't nice to hear from the future of the Denmark!"
Don't worry. Denmark will definitely be the last nation in Europe to surrender. This Asmaa-fool is a member of our political asylum called Enhedslisten (Unity List). They are constantly on the verge of sliding out of parliament, representing no more than 2.6% of voters. She is actually an asset for Denmark: we tend to laugh at most everything, but this time even our most ridiculous useful idiots (yes, we have a fair share as well) are keeping a very low profile. Hell, even our Danish Broadcasting Company - competing with the BBC in foolishness - is embarrassed.

My favorite from the WaPo comments section:

John Paul:
You know what. I don't give a crap about what this jerk thinks. What I want is for him to shut up and behave himself like a good person should. Until then, STFU. I've had enough of this mulsim BS in the paper every single day. ENOUGH already!

re: #69 NoSubmission

re: #55 FQ Kafir

This is how clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan.

HHHHHHHHAHAH!
oh my sides!

Grrovy. Turn on, tune in, 'splode out.

Groovy. PIMF

And a somewhat more eloquent comment:

Marcus Young:
As has been the case with many of the articles this week trying to define and explain Islam to a non-Muslim audience, this article only clarifies one thing; that Islam is a bundle of dangerous contradictions.

Some mainstream Islamic scholars believe that converting to another faith indeed deserves the death penalty. Some others say that ISN'T the correct approach. But wait a second; in a modern-day context, ANY 'experts' in a religion who believe that murdering someone for changing their faith is God's law is simply unacceptable. A truly civilized world-view recognizes that individual faith is an individual decision, and that NO right exists to coerce faith through violence.

In the west, people with those sorts of extremist beliefs are shunned by the society; in Muslim countries, they are some of the leading religious and governmental figures. The fact that none of the writers in this week's collection of essays are willing and ready to pronounce those extremists as being the dangerous characters that they are is what is 'wrong' with Islam today.

If the Pope came out and announced that all lapsed Catholics were to be executed for their 'crime', it would be met with disbelief - and non-action. Yet there have been recent cases where Muslim apostates really WERE sentenced to death by courts following Sharia law. If Muslims want to build bridges to the west and ask the same in return, they'll have to first reach the point where they recognize that certain basic human rights are the building block of any society. Specific religious beliefs belong in the heart and the home, NOT in the laws of a society. Knowing your own boundaries is the first sign of real respect. Middle eastern Muslims would do well to recognize that the harder they push to encode their beliefs in their laws, the harder it will be achieve the level of respect they so obviously desire.

re: #19 NoSubmission

I know we all know this, but Muslims do not worship the God of Abraham! Yaweh is not who is described in the Koran. Pisses me off.

re: #67 NoSubmission

I have a copy of Espositos "Unholy War" sitting on the shelf right next to Peter Bergmans "Holy War, Inc."

Both are so full of errors and gross distortions it's a wonder they don't get the Ward Churchill treatment.

Yossef Bodansky made a mockery of both of them.

MORE
AMMO
PLEASE,
R

The MSM just can't get enough of their anti-Western fix. They're like junkies. Destroying the body, at the expense of the high.

re: #69 NoSubmission

re: #55 FQ Kafir

This is how clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan.

HHHHHHHHAHAH!
oh my sides!

That looks like one of those stuffed toys, where the image is printed on the fabric (a front image, and a back image), the two pieces are sewn together and stuffed. A sort of two-dimensional stuffed toy.

re: #64 AK oilfield worker

For now. Things will change.

Clinton/Obama is too much "diversity."

Gore/Edwards or Gore/Obama is likely.

There will be no such thing as Clinton/Gore or Gore/Clinton.

Clinton/Edwards...? I can be persuaded to believe that the Dems are going in this direction, but the ticket seems foolish to me.

There's a lot more to life than intellect.

Photographs, too.

Off to the grocery store!

i was just complaining to my friend on the phone about this very series of articles an hour before you posted this. (this blog is an outpost of sanity in a world that seems to have completely lost touch with reality.)

but, yeah, seriously, wtf? did the post declare this 'celebration of islamofascist double-talk' week?

re: #27 FQ Kafir

Gore/Bloomberg... Independents...

Report: Street Gang MS-13 Trying to Unify in Major U.S. Cities, Become Powerful and Deadly Cartel

Working for Hugo and Iran. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

OT:

Two "Islamistas" arrested in Spain for fundraising for terrorism during "OPeration Aleppo"

[Link: www.elmundo.es...]

These two Syrians were caught red-handed channeling funds to radical islamists and money laundering the funds through real estate ventures in Spain.

MOre than $120,000 EUROS found in their kitchen "safebox"--you know, lunch money.

Bassan Dalasi Satut & Samer Dabbas are both from Aleppo, Syria.

And it is encouraging to see a fair number of the commenters calling bullsh*t on what Ramadan is selling. And these are WaPo readers, mind you.

This terrorist spokesman always gets air-time on Canadian national broadcaster CBC

This is nothing new!

re: #84 Render
Did I mention that Mr. Esposito is publicity whore and a huge pain in the ass?

re: #68 Occasional Reader

the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

However, the "fruits" themselves are legitimate targets.

thank Allah for the clerics to clear up these hard to discern interpretations

re: #90 tfc3rid

Haha. To Naderize the election. Would be quite a show! I like it!

re: #88 MandyManners

There's a lot more to life than intellect.

Photographs, too.

Off to the grocery store!

I wonder...
"Off to the grocery store" in your Ferrari ?

Off topic, but did anyone else see this? If not, it is a MUST SEE.

This is the speech Patton would have given if he were alive today:

Fuck the left and the islamofascists, really one in the same!

ATTENTION:

After careful analysis of the last Dem Debate, let me be the 1st to announce that the Democrat candidate WIL win the upcoming Presidential election, now that the Democrats have secured the all important Melting SnowMan Demographic Vote.

further heighten the threat," the letter continued. "It would be dangerous to look at MS-13 as just another street gang."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #55 FQ Kafir

If it wasn't a copyright violation, I'd love to see that on the top of the thread...

(Sort of the Tariq Ramadan version of Arafish.)

re: #88 MandyManners

There's a lot more to life than intellect.
Photographs, too.
Off to the grocery store!

:^()
A bit of a step up from zombie's naked moonbats, but not much. LOL!

Okay I saw that Jehu posted it elsewhere - sorry. Still, if you haven't seen it watch it.

I guess they're in the "Talk to anyone" category?

OT: The Dimocrat drumbeat of one hearing, investigation and endless whining continues.
House Committee OKs Contempt Citations for 2 White House Aides in Prosecutors Firings Flap

WASHINGTON — The House Judiciary Committee voted contempt of Congress citations Wednesday against White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and President Bush's former legal counselor, Harriet Miers.

The 22-17 party-line vote — which would sanction for pair for failure to comply with subpoenas on the firings of several federal prosecutors — advanced the citation to the full House.

Y'all are doing a helluva job congress. A mimimum wage increase, which affects nobody over the age of 16, and well over 100 such actions just like this. It is time to end the temper tantrum ya bunch of cry babies.

re: #39 bosforus

the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

holding back the vomit

But infidel fruit trees are fair game.

How clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan PART II!

re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The kicker there being no non-Muslim is ever considered an innocent.

re: #93 Occasional Reader

And it is encouraging to see a fair number of the commenters calling bullsh*t on what Ramadan is selling. And these are WaPo readers, mind you.

More likely, they are lizards.

Wow! I'm totally NOT shocked!

How lizards see Tariq Ramadan.

Ahmadinejad & Nasrallah: 2 Shi'ite Girlie-Men Get it on

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

re: #109 FQ Kafir

How clueless moonbats see Tariq Ramadan PART II!

They seem to favor glowing orange! LOL

It’s just jaw-droppingly outrageous what’s going on here. The Post has recently published Islamist propaganda from the spiritual leader of Hizballah, a Hamas leader, a radical Egyptian mufti, and now the Muslim Brotherhood. Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

Lots of stuff on this topic at Counterrorism Blog, too.

re: #113 FQ Kafir
How Lizards see Tariq Ramadan II

re: #117 NoSubmission

Yessir.

Decline in support for suicide bombing

Pakistan: 33% to 9%
Lebanon: 74% to 34%
Palestinians: staying strong at 70%
Bush's approval: 28% to 39%
Congress: who cares% to 19%
percentage of my time at work spent on LGF since May: 5% to 85%

moral: LGF saves the world

re: #97 FQ Kafir

Bloomberg wants to be involved in some way... However, I think his ego might be too big to settle for the #2 spot...

The new Hitler....

Warriors of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corp.

Here's a prize comment from the WashPo blog:

Mohamed MALLECK:

Mr. Ramadan,

As usual, your writing is superbly lucid and well-reasoned. I especially salute your courage to avoid spelling out that the use of violence may be necessary to resist initial unprovoked violence inflicted on the resistance fighter. "Muslims have the right to protect themselves and to defend their rights. Here “jihâd” means “qitâl” (armed struggle). The use of violence and weapons must be adjusted to the nature of the aggression itself: an armed aggression may justify an armed resistance if there is no other way to come to a peaceful agreement.

re: #119 bosforus

39% should have been 34%

Murtha pushes new troop withdrawal plan

WASHINGTON - A leading Democratic House Iraq war critic said Wednesday he'll soon push legislation that would order U.S. troop withdrawals to begin in two months and predicted Republicans will swing behind it this time.

A vote on Rep. John Murtha's proposal likely will come in September, when Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus delivers a long-anticipated assessment on the war and members of Congress weigh some $600 billion in defense spending requested by President Bush.

It doesn't matter what Petraeus says, the Dems have their own "facts" established already.

From the look of the comments, it doesn't seem like many people are falling for the taqiya, save for this bimbo:

Tariq:

I relished the dialogue and so appreciate an intellectual prespective on the Muslim religion, it's history and current practices. My wish would be to converse with you at length over coffee. It is so interesting and has provoked a multitude of questions. I was raised Cahtolic and see similarities in mismanagment, interpretation and social practice of a 'religion'.

I will look for any speaking engagments you might be offering in the future.

Sincerely,

Molly McDonald

Easy there, Molly; better go blot that wet spot.

Another loving comment from the RoP'er at the WAshPoop blog:

Fred K.:

Just reading this newspaper article about these people killed while celebrating soccer is indeed very bad. The Islam experts here should explain that. Why. To kill American troops or to clearly select which other Arabs in Baghdad must die can be explained. But to kill your own people that are enjoying a sports victory of their own country is crazy.

re: #120 tfc3rid

You're right. A self-made man tends to worship his creator. I forget the famous person who said that. Will Rogers?

Open Season....

This is great!

More from the comments section; after some jihadi apologist whines about the Crusades, they get righteously smacked down by someone posting this:

hey lets talk crusades.
i posted a date by date history of islam's first 50 years. murder after murder. now here is a summary of what lead up to the crusades.
The first Crusade began in 1095... 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

re: #125 David Simon

I was raised Cahtolic and see

Interesting how that Catholic can't even spell her own religion. I smell a sock puppet.

The use of violence and weapons must be adjusted to the nature of the aggression itself: an armed aggression may justify an armed resistance if there is no other way to come to a peaceful agreement. But the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees as Abû Bakr, the first successor of the Prophet, stated following Muhammad’s teachings.

If I ever find myself in the position of having to mount a physical defense, my use of violence and weapons will be COMPLETELY disproportionate.

The only way to have peace after being attacked is to utterly defeat the attacker.....to eliminate his desire or ability to attack again.

All you get with proportionate responses is evident in Israel/Gaza.

Murtha Fokker!
Rep. Murtha (D) pushing new Iraq pullout plan

Tariq Ramadan
European intellectual

A Swiss citizen of Egyptian descent, Tariq Ramadan, is one of the world's leading Muslim intellectuals. Considered one of Time Magazine's 100 “innovators” of the 21st century, Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam that both engages and critiques Western ideas and institutions.

7th Century-minded people have no basis on which to question advanced Western ideas and institutions. Wherever Islam has spread, it has brought only societal stagnation, turmoil, and death to the people who have embraced it. It does not seek to engage, but rather to dominate and destroy. Like Tariq, it should not be allowed in.

re: #107 Just_A_Grunt

One reason that the minimum wage was such a big deal for the Dems is that many union contract wage rates are tied to it, so it affects big labor.

#134 eschew:

If I ever find myself in the position of having to mount a physical defense, my use of violence and weapons will be COMPLETELY disproportionate.

Even against the fruit trees?! You heartless bastard!

Judge: Sudan owes USS Cole families $8M
/Good luck with that.

re: #127 NoSubmission

So I am sure that Michael Moron will immediately go out and make a movie "Soccer Balls For Bagdad" about the use of firearms in Arab countries by civilians during celebrations of every sort. Oh, you mean he only does that when it involves the 2nd amendment and soccer does not involve the second amendment. Sorry, forgot about that.

re: #138 Occasional Reader

The fruit tree could have a Jew behind it.

Wide Trash

Newsweek sure is in it this week...their cover story for this week's issue is "Islam in America" and it touts the supposed "incredible" and "amazing" success of Islam here. What are they smoking?

I thought that it was very interesting that in the photo on the cover (which is of a large group of presumably Muslim Americans) that only 1 person (a young woman) was offering any sort of smile. Most of the rest were rather non-plussed looking, while most of the young men pictures had very angry expressions on their faces...

I question religions that have to be interpreted.

I question any religion that wants me dead.

WITH
AUTHORITY,
R

OT: Praise the Lord and Pass the Carrot Sticks.

eschew,

If I ever find myself in the position of having to mount a physical defense, my use of violence and weapons will be COMPLETELY disproportionate.

A wise policy. It is far better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

re: #146 Render

OK, I buy that, too,

re: #134 eschew_obfuscation

And the only peaceful agreement possible is dhimmitude or conversion. Therefore, any "infidel" not living under the heel of Islam is sufficient reason for violence.

Nice example of taqiyya, Tariq!

re: #125 David Simon

The obligatory "OOOH OOOH MAHMOUD" comment.

re: #141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a Tariq. Don't fall for it.

Too bad, every leftist in America and Europe already has, and quite a few conservatives wouldn't know a jihadi if it bit them on the ass.

re: #150 buzzsawmonkey

re: #145 xtraBilly

I question religions that have to be interpreted.

All religions have to be interpreted. How they are interpreted--and how their followers behave pursuant to the interpretation--is the issue.

OK then I'll just question the authority of the interpreters.

Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam that both engages and critiques Western ideas and institutions.
And is open to being engaged and critiqued by Western Idealists and Institutions?

OT:

Is this kid channeling Louis Armstrong?

OR
WHAT,
R

re: #125 David Simon

From the look of the comments, it doesn't seem like many people are falling for the taqiya, save for this bimbo:

Tariq:

I relished the dialogue and so appreciate an intellectual prespective on the Muslim religion, it's history and current practices. My wish would be to converse with you at length over coffee. It is so interesting and has provoked a multitude of questions. I was raised Cahtolic and see similarities in mismanagment, interpretation and social practice of a 'religion'.

I will look for any speaking engagments you might be offering in the future.

Sincerely,

Molly McDonald

Easy there, Molly; better go blot that wet spot.

No practicing Catholic ever says "raised Catholic." Only lapsed Catholics refer to themselves in such a way.

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

And by engage he refers to the use of small arms and high explosives.

re: #144 TempestMan

Newsweek sure is in it this week...their cover story for this week's issue is "Islam in America" and it touts the supposed "incredible" and "amazing" success of Islam here. What are they smoking?

I thought that it was very interesting that in the photo on the cover (which is of a large group of presumably Muslim Americans) that only 1 person (a young woman) was offering any sort of smile. Most of the rest were rather non-plussed looking, while most of the young men pictures had very angry expressions on their faces...

It began last week.

re: #157 buzzsawmonkey

Could he be Fwench?

re: #132 Occasional Reader

I can't believe I'm saving something for later that originated on a space paid for by the WaPo. Crazy world, huh?

#131 Stone wall

Wasn't that Patton Iraq speech fantastic? Someone should transcribe it but who can fire up the troops against islamofascism than Gen. George Patton! "Your job is to make the other poor bastid die for his mullah"!

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We don't even need to see General Petraeus's comments, we already hear from bloggers on the ground that things are turing in a better direction... Now if the damn Iraqi government could only get it together!

#164 alegrias

Yeah it was greaaatttttttttt!

They also argue that nothing is mentioned in the Qur’an pertaining to this very sensitive issue and add that there is no evidence of the Prophet killing someone only because he/she changed his/her religion.

Ah.. some FUD with the Taqiyya & Samosas™..I've noticed the Islamospin Dept. always use this not in the qur'an/haditha/sura/delete as apppropriate technique to somehow deflect the RoP's brutal tendencies. Why do western journalists always fall for the intellectualising of this primitive death cult? Every time?

Could it be that all those wordy, scholarly-looking articles, full to the brim with words such as 'jurisprudence', 'scholar', 'jurist' and all those chapter & verse quotations, actually make them look clever and researched to their readerships?

We all have a duty to keep on exposing these terrorists and the lickspittle media hacks who promote them in the name of 'intelligent debate.

(late to the dance...but may I cut in?)

But the use of violence and weapons must be proportionate and never target innocent people, women, children, the elderly, and even fruit trees

Well at least my fruit trees feel better.

Korea goes dhimmi...

KOREA: Police search for netizens irritating Taliban
Police say some online comments could hurt the Afghanistan hostages' chances of release

Police began a search for Internet users for the posting of malicious comments and pictures feared to irritate Taliban militants and hinder the safe return of 23 kidnapped Korean citizens in Afghanistan.

They are considering taking legal action on the netizens, such as defamation charges.

The police also asked operators of Korean and foreign Web sites to remove writing or video content that would irritate the kidnappers.

Those writings hurt the captives' families, instigate anti-Christianity sentiment on the Web, and even support the kidnappers.

Some people have claimed on foreign Web sites that the abducted Koreans' activity in the strict Islamic country was not volunteer work but missionary work. Seoul officials advised netizens against making an issue of religion because the issue would worsen the situation.

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam that both engages and critiques Western ideas and institutions.
And is open to being engaged and critiqued by Western Idealists and Institutions?

They engage us by getting on our planes and blowing up innocent human beings. They critique us by shouting "Death to America". Just ask the Pope if they are open to religious criticism.

#163 Spenser:

If you go to the WaPo comments section and search for that quote, you'll find the poster also goes into much greater detail about the centuries of Islamist aggression against the West and violence in general.

re: #168 Golem Akbar

Ah, but you see, your fruit tree is a dirty kufr and as such cannot be considered innocent.

DIE TREE!

Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam

Yes, because the real problem with the jihadists is that they lack self-esteem.

Is there any information on who at the Wa Po allows this sort of propaganda to be published?

Specifically, who are the editors, by name and title, who allow this sort of thing?

Further, why do they not run opposing pieces? I’ve heard responses of the form “ why don't you . . .”, but such submissions are never printed.

But the Wa Po seems to have access to such opposing information, and in this case from an academically-qualified source:

“Cairo: Egypt's top cleric yesterday denied in a statement that he had said a Muslim can give up his faith without punishment.”

“Ali Goma'a, the mufti of Egypt, was quoted as saying in a posting on a Washington Post-Newsweek forum that Muslims are free to change their faith and this is a matter between an individual and God.”

"What I actually said is that Islam prohibits a Muslim from changing his religion and that apostasy is a crime, which must be punished," Goma'a said.”

"There is a campaign by secularists to distort the image of Dr Ali Goma'a," a senior official in Al Azhar told Gulf News.”

"He cannot deny punishment in this life for the apostate," said Mustafa Al Chaka of the Islamic Research Centre."

Surely, and religious utterance by The Mufti of Egypt, Egypt being for centuries the center and pinnacle of Islamic learning, merits publication with at least the same exposure as a piece purporting to explain parts of Islam.

Why do the editors of the Wa Po evade balanced reporting and neglect to use academically-qualified sources?

I’m getting this feeling similar to the one I had when I read “Silent Coup” and read reports of the WaPo actions related to it.

It feels like there's a hidden investment of some sort.

re: #63 PatFromGermany

Sorry to interrupt guys, but this is just too bizarre.

Danish Candidate MP: "OK to Attack Danish Troops in Iraq"
link

Hint: She wears a headscarf.

Keep an eye on Muslims in your legislature, I'll say.
Oh wait.
"It's Ok to attack American troops" sounds almost Democrat to me, from what I was able to gather from that Dem-Con-@-Youtube recently.

Europe needs some kind of 12 step program, or intervention.

Europe: "Hi, my name is Europe, and I am an Islamoholic."

Everybody : "Hi Europe!"

re: #174 Occasional Reader

You got it. Anybody that's going to blow themselves up for the promise of 72 Virgins is sure lacking self-esteem.

I love the spell-check. I suddenly feel European-Intellectual.

I suddenly feel European-Intellectual.

Well for cripes sake, sober up then !

re: #136 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Tariq Ramadan
European intellectual

A Swiss citizen of Egyptian descent, Tariq Ramadan, is one of the world's leading Muslim intellectuals. Considered one of Time Magazine's 100 “innovators” of the 21st century, Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam that both engages and critiques Western ideas and institutions.

7th Century-minded people have no basis on which to question advanced Western ideas and institutions. Wherever Islam has spread, it has brought only societal stagnation, turmoil, and death to the people who have embraced it. It does not seek to engage, but rather to dominate and destroy. Like Tariq, it should not be allowed in.

I completely agree. Besides, that quote is just more double-talk anyway. Their trying to make it sound like he’s offering some give-and-take, but “engage” can mean anything. You could walk up to someone and shake their hand and tell them a joke and be engaging them, or you could engage them in warfare. That quote could just as easily be interpreted to read: “Ramadan advocates a self-confident Islam that both critiques and critiques Western ideas and institutions.”

And do we really need a more “self-confident” islam? I mean it already thinks its entitled to subjugate the entire world. For the love of humanity, can we please see a less-confident islam?

Terrorist Front Groups Still Open In Michigan

While federal officials brag about finally shutting down a pair of Michigan terrorist front groups operating as charities, two larger Middle Eastern groups that openly fund Al-Qaeda terrorists remain open in the state.

Evidently, the FBI raided two of Michigan’s smaller terrorist front organizations this week in Dearborn while two bigger and wealthier groups in Detroit continue providing millions of dollars in funding to Al-Qaeda terrorists throughout the Middle East and Hezbollah leaders in Lebanon.

Raided and shut down this week were the Martyrs Foundation and the Goodwill Charitable Organization, both crucial supporters of renowned Middle Eastern terrorist organizations. The U.S. Treasury Department says the Iranian-based groups channel millions to Hezbollah, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

While shutting these operations down is certainly commendable, it’s puzzling that the U.S. government doesn’t move in on the state’s two bigger front groups, Detroit-based Life For Relief and Development and the Al-Mabarat Charitable Organization.

News blogger Debbie Schlussel has documented the groups’ activities and longtime financial support of Hamas and Al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq as well as Hezbollah leaders in South Lebanon.

Schlussel asks why the FBI won’t touch these so-called charities and accuses the U.S. Attorney in Michigan of fraternizing with the terrorist groups’ top officers and officials. She compares the government’s inaction to fighting only one cancerous tumor and allowing the rest of the cancer to metastasize.

The ZioBrain cannot comprehend the possibility of a more 'self-confident' strain of Islam. OVERLOAD. SYSTEM OVERLOAD.

Phoning it in
Radical sheik phones home for sermons

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

ONE of the nation's most radical Islamic clerics has continued to influence young Muslim minds by delivering sermons by phone from overseas to a select group of his followers in Australia.

Former Sydney imam Feiz Mohamed - who has produced extreme DVDs urging children to die for Islam and calling Jews pigs (and which Australia's Film Board gave a go-ahead and G-rating) - also advises his students on non-Muslim issues and answers queries during his two 45-minute lectures each week.

Sheik Feiz left Australia for Lebanon in 2005 before moving to Malaysia this year to complete his Masters in Islamic studies.

He is understood to be wanted for questioning by Lebanese security authorities for his connection to four Australian Muslims arrested in Lebanon last month on alleged terrorism links.

The Global Islamic Youth Centre, of which Sheik Feiz is the spiritual leader, yesterday would not be drawn on his comments on Jews and jihad but praised his commitment to serving Australia's young Muslims.

GIYC president Zunaid Moosa told The Australian Sheik Feiz's personal views did not necessarily represent the organisation's beliefs despite the cleric being one of the centre's founders.

"GIYC condemns all violence and intolerance against any community or faith," he said.

The mdeia are in bed with the Imams and 'intellectuals'. We are 'losing' the war, we have to pull out, just like these foks want us to do... It couldn't be simpler...

re: #179 xtraBilly

There are drugs for that...rhymes with "Niagara"...

re: #180 Mike C.

I suddenly feel European-Intellectual.

Well for cripes crepes
sake, sober up then !

There, I told you so.

Tariq Ramadan appears to believe in the talking cure for the problem of Islam. Islamists don't, and they like to kill their dissenters.

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

And they just got 1,900 more troops past immigration.

A Swiss citizen of Egyptian descent, Tariq Ramadan, is one of the world's leading Muslim intellectuals.
Sort of like being the Cat Houses leading VIRGIN

re: #179 xtraBilly

I love the spell-check. I suddenly feel European-Intellectual.

I haven't bathed today, If feel like a European-Intellectual.

/waiting until after the gym

re: #192 newsjunkie_ky

re: #179 xtraBilly

I love the spell-check. I suddenly feel European-Intellectual.

I haven't bathed today, If feel like a European-Intellectual.

/waiting until after the gym

Good Night Nurse--I not If

re: #87 FQ Kafir

For now. Things will change.

I agree, polls this early are next to worthless.

re: #181 eff plus

Tariq Ramadan - engaging in jihad of the tongue, and telling other Muslims to engage us in whatever twisted way they choose. Somebody took their common sense pill the day they decided he doesn't need to be in this country.

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured? Citations?

re: #197 godfrey

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured? Citations?

Jihads

re: #197 godfrey

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured? Citations?

And Fatwahs

re: #197 godfrey

By using the The Ward Churchill Scale

Post & Run!

Aint this video the truth!

re: #199 Ben Hur

GAAAKKK ,,

Didn't we have ENOUGH YouTube Monday night !?!?!

/ runs to stick knitting needles intro my pupils

Interesting

UK Jails Being Turned Into Jihadi Madrassas...

London, July 25: The presence of a large number of terrorists in UK jails has virtually turned them into centres of jihadi madrassas, with hardened terrorists poaching young angry Muslims and turning them into radicals.

According to reports, new jihadi websites are being launched from within the jails' premises using mobile phones, which are illegally sneaked inside it.

OT - (Charles might like this)

From Newsbusters !

newsbusters.org...] target="_blank">

You can't possibly make this up: the producer of the 9/11 truther film "Loose Change" was arrested Monday for - wait for it! - deserting the Army.

/moonbats will come out for the party on this one

#170 buzzsawmonkey

I think he claims Swiss nationality, which gives him chocolate-covered sophistication for his cuckoo-clock ideas.

This is to those tempted to post the Orson Wells school of history about the cuckoo clock crap - EVERY time there is any Swiss linked theme.

Cuckoo clocks are from the Black Forest region of Germany.

[Link: www.cuckooclockworld.com...]

re: #204 sattv4u2

sorry.

OT but I have to post this. I got this from Anti-CAIR:

New York Attorney Andrew Nitzberg has asked Anti-CAIR for assistance in locating witnesses. Please read the following and help out if you can.

Thank you,

Andrew Whitehead
Director, Anti-Council on American-Islamic Relations (Anti-CAIR)

================================================== ===

My name is Andrew Nitzberg and I am a trial attorney practicing largely in the state of New York. I am the lawyer responsible for the trial victory of Lee Kaplan against Mohammed Salahi earlier this year. (The action was for private speech by Salahi that cost Lee Kaplan several jobs. The 'free speech' defense fell flat because this was for private, not public, speech. The court records and decision are posted online by the California court administration.)

I am filing for an injunction against George Mason University for their upcoming conference of the 'International Solidarity movement', the US wing of Hamas.

I need assistance in the form of evidence. Of course there is lots of evidence to show that the ISM is a violent, Jew-hating group which directly assists terrorists in coming to their targets and similar activities. But i need evidence admissible in a court of law.

No one will be required to appear in court or to travel (except me -- the pro bono (unpaid) lawyer).

1. I need statements from persons who have directly observed ISM personnel stating things like, "Kill the Jews", "We support the resistance of the Palestinian people even when they engage in Terrorism" , "We work with Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza", "We work with Hizballah".

Persons attending the Michigan ISM conference in (I think) 2002 would be very helpful here.)

2. I need statements indicating that persons have observed ISM persons beating up persons who do not support the agenda of the ISM (this should be very easy- they beat people up every year at these things.)

3. I need statements that persons have personally observed ISM personnel with weapons or transporting weapons. Statements from ISM personnel that admit to such contact with weapons are excellent.

4. There are people looking for the 'perfect plaintiff' for the action. (We have general students (2) eager to sign on, but we would like the 'perfect plaintiff' -- who is a student (BA or grad)/administrator/faculty member who has a family member in Israel. (The Virginia criminal code makes this a very attractive plaintiff). Any Jewish person is eligible because we can shake the family tree and find some relative who is living in Israel.

Thank you for this help. Every terrorist is my enemy because I am a friend to freedom. I am hopeful that I will find many friends in this effort.

Andrew Nitzberg

Please respond to: ajnn@msn.com

re: #197 godfrey

Fatwats.

re: #206 ctrlL

What was the name of that film ,,, loose BRAINS !?!?!?!

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

GA! YUCK.

Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

Don't be surprised if it happens.

OT:

Regarding the Oduwole maniac mentioned a few threads down, appears to be a mostly Nigerian surname. The news would bear watching, a large number of Nigerians belong to our /not favorite religion.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

Violently so.

PIMF
What happened to my link ?
Newsbusters

ctrlL,

You can't possibly make this up: the producer of the 9/11 truther film "Loose Change" was arrested Monday for - wait for it! - deserting the Army.

I question the timing.

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured? Citations?

Number of conversions/pliant Hacks. Measured on a 'Ridley-ometer'.

Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

No.

Because those are terrorists.

re: #82 Spenser (with an S)

re: #19 NoSubmission

I know we all know this, but Muslims do not worship the God of Abraham! Yaweh is not who is described in the Koran. Pisses me off.

i agree more people need to face the fact that allah and yahwah/christ have polar opposite personalities ie if one is god then the other is stan

re: #219 JimmyTheClaw

Careful whose Name you write.

Sorry.

NoSub!

Careful whose Name you write!

See?

You've all evaporated!

re: #197 godfrey

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured?

On a very short scale.

re: #218 Ben Hur

Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

No.

Because those are terrorists.

Ah c'mon Ben, there's faint difference in jaded marxist journalist eyes between "armed struggle" and "jihad" after all. So what if Jihad uses terror? So over the years we get a steady transition from terrorist to separatist to resistance to freedom fighter, next thing you know in a few years Ayman will be very chic on T-shirts. It worked for Che after all.

Congress mulls Jewish refugee cause

But....but...but...Prof Achmed didn't teach me about that in my intro to "Israel comitted genocide" class in college!

macboy

Do you mean Ripley-ometer? I had to run that one down. Here's Melanie Phillips' article on the The Talented Mr. Ramadan. Love that woman...

"Most of the people advocating campus hasbara, or to general audiences, bring good talking points, but neglect the fact that we have a good balancing narrative, namely that more Jews were made refugees than Palestinians," said Waldman. "The fact that we have been successfully absorbed by Israel doesn't take away from the fact that our home civilization has been destroyed, and that we are extinct from North Africa, where we were for 2,500 years."

re: #197 godfrey

How is "leading Muslim intellectual" measured? Citations?

Acceleration when the vest goes off.

re: #221 Ben Hur

Sorry.

NoSub!

Careful whose Name you write!

What?

re: #188 godfrey

Tariq Ramadan appears to believe in the talking cure for the problem of Islam. Islamists don't, and they like to kill their dissenters.

You're missing the point about Tariq. He is a leading Islamist, a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood. His role is to double-talk his way into the European intelligensia and undermine Western intellectual defences against Islam. He is succeeding very well. In many ways, Tariq Ramadan is as dangerous to the West as bin Laden, possibly more so.

Who’s next, Ayman al-Zawahiri, translated by Adam Gadahn?

Post editor: "hey that's a great idea! Get me Pakistan on the line!"

re: #224 Thanos

Just pointing out that when they're against anyone but Israel, it's terrorism.

A point I annoy everyone with repeatedly.

Obviously Charles and the mah Lizzah cabal, don't think that way.

#255 Godfrey

Got to agree with you about Melanie Phillips. And I did mean

'Ridley-ometer'

;)

re: #229 NoSubmission

Careful about writing the Name of G-d.

Juden don't even say it.

Oops! I meant #226!

re: #224 Thanos

A few years ago in France I saw a young Arab man wearing a bin Laden T-shirt sitting in a cafe enjoying his coffee with all the smug self-assurance of a typical Frenchman.

Russian youth: Stalin good, migrants must go: poll

Bush is evil.

Putin is good.

re: #232 Ben Hur

re: #224 Thanos

Just pointing out that when they're against anyone but Israel, it's terrorism.

A point I annoy everyone with repeatedly.

Obviously Charles and the mah Lizzah cabal, don't think that way.

I understood :)

IN media eyes Hamas is in that "resistance" phase I mentioned after having graduated from from the terrorist to separatist phases.... after a few years they can rehabilitate anyone... they have a six step program for it.

Consider this a warning:

[Link: www.woai.com...]

re: #236 Kenneth

shame I wasn;t there. I have this medical problem. I seem to ,,,, umm,,, stumble,, yeah , thats it, STUMBLE and scalding hot coffee flies out of my cup onto some "innocent" patron ( who may just happen to be wearing an offensive, to me, T-Shirt.

It's alright though. I have a doctors note and all !

Ben. That was me. Sorry, I still have to decide how I feel about that one. No offense meant.

Here's a goody:

Arab League Offers Israel "Hand Of Peace"

An Arab League delegation paid a historic visit to Israel on Wednesday to present a plan calling for comprehensive regional settlement, saying they were extending "a hand of peace" on behalf of the Arab world. The visit by the foreign ministers of Egypt and Jordan marked the first time the 22-member group has sent representatives to Israel. The Arab League peace plan envisions full recognition of Israel in return for an Israeli withdrawal from lands captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

Kenneth

I'm just now learning about TR, and Phillips' link to the TNR exposé by Paul Berman is subscription-only. What Ramadan says in Charles' link certainly looks like the view of an Islamic reformer, not an Islamic jihad ranter. If he's lying about his real views, then I'd like to find the links to those real views.

re: #234 Ben Hur
I don't recall writing it. Was it from the stuff I cut and pasted?

How's little ben hur?

re: #240 sattv4u2,

Yeah, it'd be a damn shame if homeboy fell down and brroke his back or something :-)

re: #244 NoSubmission

re: #234 Ben Hur
I don't recall writing it. Was it from the stuff I cut and pasted?

How's little ben hur?

Umm,,,, I didn't know you had a name for ,,, umm,, IT ,,

You guys wanna get a room !?!?!?

j/k

Advertisire: #244 NoSubmission

ng Falls at N.Y. Times, Tribune

He's getting bigger!

He eats.

He sleeps.

Does doodoo.

He peed on me.

Much more fun than my Tickle Me Elmo!

re: #246 sattv4u2

re: #244 NoSubmission

re: #234 Ben Hur
I don't recall writing it. Was it from the stuff I cut and pasted?

How's little ben hur?

Umm,,,, I didn't know you had a name for ,,, umm,, IT ,,

You guys wanna get a room !?!?!?

j/k

Thanks.

We've already got one.

re: #242 itellu3times

Arab League Offers Israel "Hand Of Peace"

Keep your eye on the other hand.

Ain't nothin little about Hur

LOL!

That did read funny!

Tariq Ramadan
Tariq Ramadan
Tariq Ramadan, prospero ano (Charles, the n with a tilda doesn't work) y felicidad

Tariq Ramadan
Tariq Ramadan, from the bottom of my heart....

re: #246 sattv4u2
LOL!

Here's another article on Tariq Ramadan's closet Islamism..

re: #249 bulwrk
Yup!
While they piss down thier leg!

Man now I feel bad. These guys are truly just a bunch of peaceful spritual leaders! How could I have been so wrong about them?

/My bad

Mostly I like his real-sounding Muslim name.

"Tariq Ramadan, I'd like you to meet the spokesman for the United Jewish Front, Ben Shabat. And this here is your Catholic Brotherhood counterpart, Bartholomew Eucharist; Bobby Watchtower is here from the Jehovah's Witnesses and that's Vicki Vegan from the Seventh-day Adventists."

the Muslim Brotherhood’s slickest Islamist spokesman, Tariq Ramadan, billed as a “European intellectual”—who’s banned from entering the United States (a fact the Post somehow fails to mention), but still gets a venue for his propaganda at one of America’s largest newspapers.

We're watchin' you, buddy.

Umm,,,, I didn't know you had a name for ,,, umm,, IT

All guys do.

LOL!

re: #257 cosmo,

I thought all Muslims just pulled their name out of their Ass...

Nearly half of Americans have a generally unfavorable view of Islam, according to a 2006 Washington Post-ABC News poll, a number has risen since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. That climate makes it easy to lose sight of the fact that the majority of mainstream Muslims hate terrorism and violence as much as we do -- and makes it hard for non-Muslims to know where to begin to try to understand a great world faith.

Nearly half of Americans have a generally unfavorable view of Islam - Well, here's a hint, Muslims - stop blowing up innocents in streets, markets, restaurants, and other public places, and you just might get better reviews from non-extremist countries.

That climate makes it easy to lose sight of the fact that the majority of mainstream Muslims hate terrorism and violence as much as we do

Really? Even if you do a proportionate comparison, that would make Muslims about 20 times as likely to be for terrorism and violence which would put them at the very least 30% of Muslims in FAVOR of terrorism and violence.

I'd actually say a conservative numer would be more to 40% to 50% of all Muslims would like nothing better than to see all Jews and all Americans dead. The rest are so-called moderates who look the other way and say "some violence to innocents is justified" and danced around after 9/11.

I'm not sorry to say, I don't misunderstand Muslims or Islam at all. They want us dead and we don't want to be dead.

The Washington Post and Newsweek are pulling out all the stops in their promotion of radical Islamists as “moderates.”

Who wants to bet that behind the veil....lie the fingers of the State Department?

#252 Cattt:

Tariq Ramadan, prospero ano (Charles, the n with a tilda doesn't work)

So that's why you're wishing Tariq a "prosperous anus".

(BTW, define "prosperous" in this context)

re: #27 FQ Kafir

re: #22 realwest

Gore/Obama.

Gore will announce around September.

Why would he want to take a cut in pay and power?

re: #243 godfrey

Ramadan is an expert at taqiyya. His grandfather was a founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. As a young man he lived in Switzerland with the director of an Arab bank connected with financing terrorists. Go to a library and find the TNR article by Berman. Ramadan is in tight with the Islamists. This intellectual dance he does is a false-front. His assignment is to undermine the West.

#237 Ben Hur

Putin is good.

I spoke to a dear Finnish friend today and asked what she thought of Putin upon which she simply replied, "He's a dictator." The Finns seem to be quite leary of mother Russia.

OT but significant--good news! [Link: www.jpost.com...] "Congress mulls Jewish refugee cause" Finally awareness of Jewish refugees is starting to build.

The Finns seem to be quite leary of mother Russia.

Meaning, they're dropping acid?