For self defense I presume.

The Jerusalem Post has even more on the quid pro quo:

On Wednesday, the French daily Le Monde quoted Seif al-Islam Gadhafi, son of leader Moammar Gadhafi, as saying that a deal to buy military hardware from France was an element of negotiations that led to the release of six medics detained in Libya. (AP)

Momar has done an excellent job of taqiyya (sp)

re:

Just thinking of the meeting between Kadaffyduck and Pres. Tom Tancredo, , "No sorry, your country kicked you out, we do not need any more thugs who always do things Americans never do." Hit the road buster.

[Link: www.teamtancredo.com...]

Here's a permission slip, if I or my family ever gets taken hostage or held prisoners by a turd world shithead, dont negotiate or make concessions, just kill them. Keep hitting them until either we're let go or you've killed whoever killed us.

Isn't Libya the country who extorted money from the EU for the victims of Aids who were supposedly infected by the Bulgarian Nurses? Sheesh, they cna't take care of their own kids or pay the money to the lockerbie and labelle victims, yet the bastards have money to buy anti-tank missiles. I don't know who I'm angrier with.. the Libyans for being typical a-rabs or the french for being spineless and putting weapons in their hands. With friends like the French, who really needs enemies?

Charles, please remind everyone of trhe unbelievable torture Libya infllcted on these people:

Tales of torture in German media.

The links are coming too fast.

Why does Libya need all this military hardware? Does it have hostile neighbors? Just wondering...

And French citizens were so thrilled their First Lady Cecilia Sarkozy was "triumphant" returning from Libya with those Bulgarian nurses. They should have known there was a payoff.

OT: If this was posted today, sorry.
Just GAZE it.

Byron York/ National Review
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

Today more than a thousand Kossacks — adherents of the left-wing website DailyKos — are gathering for their annual convention in Chicago

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And just look at the people who are coming to visit YearlyKos: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and many others.

So Kos the political whore has all the who's who coming to his shindig.
The left wing wacko stalinist left is throwing a party revolving around this hate site.
Byron does not even mention how bad it is.
Mainstreaming hate I tell ya.

The UN had the "Oil for Food" deal.

Now the EU has the "Torture for Guns" deal.

Nice!

re: #2 lawhawk

The

I'm starting to lose track of the pay-off totals... can someone start a running tab of Kaddafi's jizya? Let's see;

EU $400 million (includes Bulgaria's $57M ransom)

French nuclear reactor deal (+ military hardware)

EU free trade (+ political normalization)

Brand new US Ambassador (+ a date w/ Condi)

And (to top it off) a terrorist mass murderer release (pending appeal);

Lockerbie convict 'will soon be home in Libya'

Libya believes it has reached a deal with Britain that could see a Libyan convicted for the Lockerbie bombings extradited home in return for last week’s release of six foreign medics, Muammar Gaddafi's son was quoted as saying today.
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He also told Le Monde that he hoped Megrahi would soon be sent back to Libya.

“We will soon have an extradition agreement with Britain,” he said, referring to a memorandum of understanding on an extradition deal signed with Libya during a visit by Tony Blair in May.

Naturally, the UK denies any deal.

"Any decision on Mr Megrahi would be a matter for the Scottish courts and the Scottish authorities. There is no deal being done," the spokesman said.

Naturally, it's all just coincidence the Scots are hearing Megrahi's 2nd appeal.

/All this, and more!... if The Jizya's Right!

'Egyptians killed 4 Sudanese trying to cross border'

Egyptian soldiers killed four Sudanese refugees near the Egypt-Israel border overnight Wednesday in full view of IDF troops, a shaken-sounding IDF soldier said in an interview with Channel 10, Thursday evening.

According to the soldier, female IDF troops operating night vision devices identified several refugees approaching the border in an attempt to infiltrate Israel and alerted other soldiers who arrived after a few minutes in an army jeep.

However, Egyptian troops who also discovered the refugees, fired upon them, immediately killing two and wounding a third. A fourth refugee ran towards the fence and an IDF soldier stretched out his hands, trying to help him cross.

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Egyptian soldiers killed four Sudanese refugees near the Egypt-Israel border overnight Wednesday in full view of IDF troops, a shaken-sounding IDF soldier said in an interview with Channel 10, Thursday evening.

According to the soldier, female IDF troops operating night vision devices identified several refugees approaching the border in an attempt to infiltrate Israel and alerted other soldiers who arrived after a few minutes in an army jeep.

However, Egyptian troops who also discovered the refugees, fired upon them, immediately killing two and wounding a third. A fourth refugee ran towards the fence and an IDF soldier stretched out his hands, trying to help him cross.

At that point, the soldier recalled, two Egyptian soldiers arrived and started pulling at the refugee's legs.

"It was literally like we were playing 'tug of war' with this man," the soldier said. The soldier eventually loosened his grip on the man, fearing the Egyptians would shoot him.

"They were aiming loaded weapons straight at us, I was afraid they were going to shoot us," he said.

The Egyptians then carried the man several meters away from the border fence, and proceeded to beat him and another wounded refugee to death with stones and clubs.

"What happened there yesterday was a lynch. These are not men, they're animals. They killed him without even using firearms," the soldier said. "We just heard screams of pain and the sounds of beatings. Then the screams stopped."

The entire event was caught on IDF tapes, but, the soldier said, his commanders, who were not at the site, would not dare watch them.

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A Channel 10 commentator said the channel preferred not to show the tape, so as not to cause a diplomatic row with Egypt.

NYTIMES 1944

Why can't he have weapons? He has always been responsible.
Oh yeah, that Lockerbie thing.
If the UN were not a useless forum for Third World ranting this guy would at the very least be under a trade boycott for his imprisonment & torture of the Bulgarians. In a just world the invasion & his removal would be under way.

re: #17 Ben Hur

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'Egyptians killed 4 Sudanese trying to cross border'

When you think about this story, it begins to sound fishy. Why were IDF soldiers trying so hard to help infiltrators cross into Israel? Why were the Egyptian soldiers so rabid in protecting Israel's border? It doesn't look like we're getting the whole story.

Seems like Libya hasn't changed much from the days they used to send pirate ships into the Med to terrorize ships of other nations. Nowadays they just use more "efficient" means to extort money.

ok, it's obvous, to me at least
these will end up in the hands of Hizbullah, Hamas or some such group

perhaps an outside chance they will even be used against the US in Iraq

but you can bet the Libyans do not personally need them

I say once we find proof that a FRench made munition takes a US soldier's life, we declare war on bomb a tent or two in France and a couple more in Libya

See also “A very successful tactic”

In an interview with Britain’s Channel 4 news last month, Dadullah called kidnapping “a very successful policy.” The insurgents have certainly been actively engaged in it. Besides the Koreans, the Taliban have kidnapped at least 41 Afghan civilians and killed at least 23 of them, while 18 remain missing, according to the New York-based Human Rights Watch, which called the Taliban’s kidnapping policy a “war crime”...

Isn't any tactic successful that your enemy routinely surrenders to?

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Kidnapping Europeans is the new plastics.

The root cause of terrorism is that it succeeds.

re: #21 opnion Why can't he have weapons? He has always been responsible. Oh yeah, that Lockerbie thing...

And the thousands of victims of Kaddafi's bloody PIRA bombing thing.

#28, Silhouette. I like your parsimony. The implication of your analysis is obvious as well. Well done!

me thinks that the West's fate is being sealed.
-we pump trillions of dollars into their coffers to buy their overpriced oil because we refuse to drill our own and develop nuclear power plants. this money is used to finance terrorists and the global jihad and to buy our former heads of states, attorney generals and other high ranking members of our government who, once they leave off, go to work for the oil rich barrons.
-we sell billions of dollars' worth of arms to the islamic nations, usually as bribes.
-we let millions of muslims immigrate into our nations where they subsequently continue with the global jihad.
-we let them take over our academic institutions and feed their views to our school children.
-we are allowing them to slowly kill the US Constitution and replace it with shariah law.
-our politicians embrace their organizations such as the muslim brotherhood (Condi) and their totalitarian governments (syria, iran) to try and get them to play nice with us.
-our media is a willful accomplance in hiding the truth from our people.
-when we go to war, our politicians hamstring our military and don't allow them to do what they are trained to do...destroy the enemy.
-we poor billions in dollars' worth in humanitarian aid to their countries only to have their tyranical leaders steal the money while the people suffer.
-we continue to pretend that the UN is a force for good and not a place where dictators get to decide how to deal with issues such as genocide and stealing more wealth from the West.
-our would-be Presidents answer questions from "snowmen" and sock puppets rather than tackle the hard issues of survival.

Anybody recall NATO's Article 5? It's only been invoked once;

Less than 24 hours after the [9/11] attacks, NATO invoked for the first time Article 5 of the Washington Treaty - its collective defence clause - declaring the attacks to be an attack against all NATO members.

Did Afghanistan launch an armed attack on American territory? No?

Yet how did Bulgaria respond? Bulgarians sacrificed blood and treasure in Afghanistan-- not because their sovereign territory was attacked; but because they honorably upheld their international duty.

Now, in the midst of this NATO collective defense effort-- this "global war on terror"-- Kaddafi's terrorist regime tortures NATO member citizens and extorts ransom from a NATO member state. Remember, Kaddafi does this with explicit intent to recoup Lockerbie reparations and extort release of the Lockerbie bomber (an earlier armed attack on NATO members).

Threatening to execute Bulgarian civilians by a sharia firing squad was an armed attack on Bulgaria. What does Bulgaria need to do? Wait until Kaddafi orders hijackers to fly planes into Bulgarian skyscrapers?

Hostage extortion of NATO member citizens should be treat as an armed attack under NATO Article 5.

/Kaddafi delenda est

This would make for a perfect target U.S. air force. Are you listening G.W.?

When those cross the border, shred them...

More hoping the crocodile will eat them last.

And who is suprised that the the French are an appeasing, stupid, short-sighted, willing to prostitute themselves for cash?

#32 Terp mole

I think that would require balls.
Something sorely lacking in the Socialist Proletariat Wonder land we live in.

re: #22 justnobody

re: #17 Ben Hur

When you think about this story, it begins to sound fishy. Why were IDF soldiers trying so hard to help infiltrators cross into Israel? Why were the Egyptian soldiers so rabid in protecting Israel's border? It doesn't look like we're getting the whole story.

Actually no. Ther have been several stories of Sudanese refugees sneaking into Israel complaining of this kind of brutality from Egyptians. There ahve also been several stories of IDF not knowing what to do with them. This actually fits a pattern that has been going on for a couple of years at least.

Current political doctrine"

Used to be "talk softly and carry a big stick"

now its "talk whiny and nasally and don't carry any stick"

OT but so good....Drudge report headline said Valerie Pflame's case was in trouble and she'd be prevented from selling her tell-all book if she disclosed when she worked for the CIA...someone fact check me as I couldn't get the link to work minutes ago on Drudge.

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Here's a permission slip, if I or my family ever gets taken hostage or held prisoners by a turd world shithead, dont negotiate or make concessions, just kill them. Keep hitting them until either we're let go or you've killed whoever killed us.

With your permission I think I would like to add that to my living will. I might modify the "shithead"....considering Gadaffi.....No I think i would leave it in just like that.

re: #7 baconeatingkaffir

With friends like the French, who really needs enemies?

Erm, I think Ghaddafi is quite happy to have them as friends ... oh, or did you mean they are the US's friends? *loud laughter*

OT from Drudge

"Plame loses her lawsuit against CIA, and will not be allowed to publish her memoir if it includes her dates of service... "

Btw, I don't think Sarkozy is appeasing, I think this is his brilliant idea for reducing the french budget deficit, after all he isn't giving this stuff away, french companies are selling it.

I do feel compelled to point out that the US govmnt is busily arming the rest of the middle east, so Sarko is really just filling any gaps that Bush might be leaving. Can't be unfair or anything, they all have an equal right to cause mass-murder and mayhem. All except Iran that is.

I wonder if anyone has considered the possibility that once all these countries are armed to the teeth with our weapons, that they might just decide that the US and Europe are greater enemies than Iran and join forces with Ahmadinejad and Syria.

OT:
Spencer’s last word from the speech to the YAF today:
“Come and kill me if you want, but I’m not going to submit.”

Kind of like Patrick Henry... "give me liberty or give me death."

CAIR heads exploding from a great speech.

_I_ am Ron Paul.

What happened to: millions for defense not one penny for tribute?

Goddamn France.

re: #47 Sceptic Tank

What happened to: millions for defense not one penny for tribute?

France is netting eu296m by the look of it. Maybe they kickback some of that to Bulgaria, along with their personnel. The sell Libya some missiles, the Saudis buy them at twice face value and quickly ship them to Gaza and maybe a few to Baghdad, and everyone's happy, right?
/sarc

re: #9 NinoBrown79

The links are coming too fast.

for whom?

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re: #36 hous bin pharteen I think that would require balls. Something sorely lacking in the Socialist Proletariat Wonder land we live in.

Indeed. "National will and the moral courage to exercise it..." was how the Presidential Commission put it after Lockerbie.

Almost 20 years later, we've apparently learned nothing.