any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

The alleged crimes include, “serious violent felonies including murder, robbery and kidnapping,” said Jordan.

Muslims? Oh come now. Totally out of character.

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

He was reportedly working on a story about the bakery.

I've been rading about this all morning.

Never got around to sending it to Charles, as I didn't think it would be of interest!

yes, "black muslims"

this term has always fascinated me

Arab muslims were the first to forcibly remove captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves (way before whites in other words)

that any black person would consider becoming a muslim surprises me

Religion of Pastry.

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

That's what the scuttlebutt is around here.

Robert Spencer over at Jihad Watch sez: "The police are there possibly because of the shooting of reporter Chauncey Bailey, who was investigating Your Black Muslim Bakery."

/don't know why I bothered to link it...all you Lizards got JW bookmarked

Such a peaceful people, these Mohammedans. Nothing to see here. Move along...

OAKLAND, Calif. — A veteran journalist and newspaper editor who was shot to death on his way to work reportedly received threats before he was murdered in what police are calling a premeditated hit, according to The Oakland Tribune.

Chauncey Bailey, 57, editor of the Oakland Post and a former reporter for The Oakland Tribune, was shot about 7:30 a.m., police said.

Click here to read the full story in the Oakland Tribune.

According to the Tribune, witnesses say a masked man ambushed Bailey and shot him at least three times. The man then fled to an awaiting van and drove away. At least one of the shots hit him in the upper part of the body.

The Tribune reported that the killer knew Bailey's routine in the mornings and shot him before the news editor had any time to react.

Publisher of the Oakland Post, Paul Cobb, said both he and Bailey had received many threats over time but police have asked him not to comment in detail, the Tribune reported
Oakland Police spokesman Roland Holmgren said police don't have a motive for the killing, but it did not appear to be random.

He also said it's not clear whether the attack had anything to do with Bailey's journalism work but investigators would be looking at that angle.

Early Friday police surrounded an Oakland eatery, Your Black Muslim Bakery, which Bailey reportedly had been researching before he was killed.
It remained unclear whether the police activity, a yearlong investigation resulting in more than a dozen being detained, was connected to the killing.

"All of those possibilities will have to be definitely explored and explored thoroughly," he said.

Bailey was shot multiple times in daylight near the county courthouse, Holmgren said. Witnesses to the shooting were cooperating in the investigation, but there were no suspects yet, police said.

Holmgren said the weapon used was not a handgun, but he would not disclose the gun's caliber.

Bailey was a familiar fixture on the local news scene, working at the Tribune for more than a decade and at other area media outlets, including KDIA-AM radio and cable channel Soul Beat TV. Before that, he worked for 10 years at the Detroit News.

In June, Bailey was named editor of the Post, a weekly publication geared toward the Bay Area black community.

Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums said Bailey will be missed.

"It is a tragedy when any person loses his or her life by an act of violence. The crime and violence on Oakland streets presents me with the most painful and difficult challenge I've ever faced," Dellums said in a statement.

In a statement, Oakland Tribune managing editor Martin Reynolds called Bailey "a friend, a valued colleague and a loving father" whose coverage of Oakland's black community was "a tremendous asset" to the newspaper.

Reynolds said he saw Bailey only last week wearing his trademark suit and tie and "we chatted as we always did when we saw each other, and I congratulated him again on being named editor of the Post."

Bailey's death "has left all of us at the Oakland Tribune shocked and deeply saddened," Reynolds said.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...] 11,00.html

Van Gogh anyone?

Last time I was there, the Black Muslim Bakery had a food vending stand inside the secure area of the Oakland International Airport.

Your Black Muslim Shariah-Imposing Bakery. Taking queues from other militant Islamic groups - oppose us, and we'll kill you.

The gauntlet is being thrown down.

Hard.

Charles, perhaps you want to re-post a link to the previous LGF thread about this group, when they were smashing up liquor stores in Oakland about a year or two ago.

These are also the same folks suspected, and some of them may have been arrested, in the vandalism of the liquor stores awhile back.
ROPMA®

Re: #1, #3, and #7

Indeed, Chauncey Bailey was investigating stories on BMB activities. In particular, Yusuf Bey, bankruptcies, and the liquor store vandalisms.

Can I open a shop called "Whiteys Cheese and Wine"?

re: #11 Ojoe

Last time I was there, the Black Muslim Bakery had a food vending stand inside the secure area of the Oakland International Airport.

Yes, they have the food-cart concession at Oakland Intrernational Airport.

Cronyism, dating back to the '80s.

I bet they don't sell any of those big "black and white" cookies at that bakery.

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

Also, longtime Oakland journalist Chauncey Bailey was reportedly researching an investigative piece into Your Black Muslim Bakery before he was shot and killed Thursday morning.

It remains unclear whether that killing is connected to Friday morning's heavy police activity at the bakery.

Religion of Peace! Have a Halal sticky bun!

"....The man then fled to an awaiting van and drove away...."
Well, was it a bakery van?

re: #16 shiroiwashi

Re: #1, #3, and #7

Indeed, Chauncey Bailey was investigating stories on BMB activities. In particular, Yusuf Bey, bankruptcies, and the liquor store vandalisms.

Charles, the previous LGF posts on them are more urgently relevant!

#17 Harry Tuttle

Only if you serve crackers with that wine.

3! Yes,there is talk of a link.Evidently,this business has been around for a few decades and run like a Gaza clan.They owned an apartment house across the street from the main bakery where family members and other employees lived and utilized intimidation with great frequency to keep the neighborhood the way they wanted it-them at the top. The suspicion in the journalist assasination (it is being called that in the local MSM of Oakland) is that the reporter was doing an investigative piece on the bakery and the family that runs it...maybe getting a bit to close for their liking.

Oakland has a long history of black nationalists and Nation of Islam types killing people.

.....on the other hand, maybe the cops are just after the donuts?

I live in Oakland. This is just the latest in a *long* series of (probable) crimes committed by these ROP'ers.

Here's a great article about them from back in '02.
[Link: www.eastbayexpress.com...]

Health Department bust. Lead contamination.

re: #14 zombie

Charles, perhaps you want to re-post a link to the previous LGF thread about this group, when they were smashing up liquor stores in Oakland about a year or two ago.

These guys again?!

Just what identifying characteristics distinguish a gang from a muslim cell?

And here is where they get a "shout out" from PETA.

That's not MY black muslim bakery...

How the heck long has Dellums been mayor of Oakland anyway?

We come for your buns.

wasnt oakland where the zebra killings took place in the 70's

Can you imagine if there was a business called "Your White Christian Bakery"?

Charles, I must say -- the search function on LGF is frustrating me! The Java calendar popups always give me spinning beachballs and never seem to work right.

Sigh.

Guess I'll have to quit Safari and re-launch and empty cache.

Not useful for quick searches!

Despite all the complaining these guys are inevitably going to do, they should just be happy that they weren't raided by (a) Egyptian Soldiers or (b) Sudanese Arabs.

The cops believe that they murdered a news reported (African American) who was investigating them.

Fox News is covering it right now.

re: #35 JimmyTheClaw

wasnt oakland where the zebra killings took place in the 70's

And San Francisco.

re: #36 JeffinSac

Cool.

re: #11 Ojoe

That's right, they used to have a pushcart in Terminal 2, until a few months ago when that terminal was being renovated. I used to enjoy walking slowly past it, and glaring at the worker while wearing my LGF or Internet Haganah t-shirt :)
I wonder how many of their employees still have airport ID cards? ? ? ?

#33 Harry Tuttle
Didn't Dellums take some time off to run the House Intelligence Committee?

re: #35 JimmyTheClaw

Those were mostly here in S.F. The culprits lived in the Western Addition and were associated with the NOI.

Islamaphobia

re: #36 JeffinSac

i was thinking the exact same thing, except "Your White Christian Doughnut Shop"

Isn't baking black muslims against the law?

re: #5 Adrenalyn

yes, "black muslims"

this term has always fascinated me

Arab muslims were the first to forcibly remove captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves (way before whites in other words)

that any black person would consider becoming a muslim surprises me

You need to ask yourself, who stood to gain from this so called slave trade. Arab Muslims? Or Zionists ship owners?

The whole supposed slave trade was just a way for the joooos to make Arab Muslims look bad.

OR, my favorite....

IT WAS REALLY Hector Bush, the great great great gandfather to George W Bush who captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves.

"We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam. We've seen it in many ways."

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

Hmm, the newsweekly editor had previously been a Detroit news reporter.

re: #5 Adrenalyn

yes, "black muslims"

this term has always fascinated me

Arab muslims were the first to forcibly remove captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves (way before whites in other words)

that any black person would consider becoming a muslim surprises me

Indeed! I recently heard an interview with a Black Muslim on an extreme leftist moonbat talk radio program hosted by Coz Carson. (This was former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's Communications Director--the one that McKinney said was "a fool" while she was within a few feet of an open mic with a network feed.) Anyway, Coz and his guest spent the whole time talking about how the Southern States should pay reparations to the descendants of American slaves.

Ironic doesn't even begin to describe it.

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

I would imagine so. I read on foxnews that the newspaper editor had been investigating this place. Face it, "Your Black Muslim Bakery" isn't the kind of generic name you would expect to encounter at random on two successive days.

Now it's Your Empty Store For Sale Or Lease.

[Link: www.ybmb.com...]
Not your everyday Mom and Pop kinda place either.

Ahhhh, ya got the updates on the main post now. Good.

re: #44 pat

#33 Harry Tuttle
Didn't Dellums take some time off to run the House Intelligence Committee?

You're right I was mis-remembering from when I lived in CA, wikipedia tells us:

He was a U.S. Representative from California from 1971 until his resignation on February 6, 1998 and following that, a lobbyist until his election as Mayor of Oakland.

8/3/07 ( Muhbabiya, Iraq ) - Seventeen women, children and elderly Iraqis are found in a mass grave following an al-Qaeda massacre.
8/2/07 ( Pattani, Thailand ) - Two Thai soldiers are killed in separate bombing and shooting attacks.
8/2/07 ( Balad, Somalia ) - An grenade attack on Ethiopians leaves one dead.
8/2/07 ( Hibhib, Iraq ) - Fifteen people are killed when a sucide bomber detonates along a city street.
8/2/07 ( Kirkuk, Iraq ) - Five brothers who worked as day laborers are kidnapped and executed by Muslim terrorists.
8/2/07 ( Balad, Iraq ) - A young girl is killed in a mortar barrage by Muslim terrorists.

re: #33 Harry Tuttle

How the heck long has Dellums been mayor of Oakland anyway?

Since last Fall. We're sick about it. We miss Mayor Moon Beam. :( Just the fact that Dellums is now mayor gives you some idea who well the city is being run now.

re: #13 abolitionist

The gauntlet is being thrown down.

Hard.

Truer words...

See Charles, I tol' you this was one to watch.

;^)

[Link: www.eastbayexpress.com...]

re: #55 Kreuzueber Halbmond

[Link: www.ybmb.com...]
Not your everyday Mom and Pop kinda place either.

Almost nothing having to do with Business. Strange site.

re: #5 Adrenalyn

yes, "black muslims"

this term has always fascinated me

Arab muslims were the first to forcibly remove captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves (way before whites in other words)

that any black person would consider becoming a muslim surprises me

Not so much surprising as perhaps, disturbing. Combination of vast ignorance and a desire for a national identity, plus a sufficiently strong rejection of the "white man's culture" to grasp at straws like this. There be some serious snakes a-brewing in that-there cauldron.

re: #53 amphibian,

The name sorta sticks in my craw. It'd be like Your Aryan Brotherhood Bakery. I kind of imagine that the FBI would just set up a permanent listening post in the parking lot across the street, you know?

Here comes the CAIR-valry, galloping to their defense.

"A taste of the hereafter"... floating across their website.
I guess if you eat one of their pastries... it's curtains.

Chauncy Bailey, the black journalist whom they murdered, used to own a black cable TV station on which Yusuf bey Sr. would give fiery anti-white and anti-Semitic sermons, broadcast to the whole Bay Area. That was one of the reasons Bailey was fired from the Oakland Tribune -- he was half journalist, half activist. And he used to be chummy with the Bey clan of NOI.

Then, later, he apparently had a split with them.

It's the oldest story in the book. Radicals ususually murder those closest to them -- apostates.

re: #13 abolitionist

The gauntlet is being thrown down.

Hard.

There are so many people in America (The Continent) not just the U.S.A. who are oblivious to this threat (of radicalmurderousislamics) that is definitely scary. The Media , ALL the PC media(except blogs like this) are to blame for the ignorance of the world, and are contributing to the coming war of the ideologies.

(puke) (coughing) spit

Off topic, but apparently a uniformed servicemember was just shouted down at YearlyKos, even upsetting TAPped's Ezra Klein. If you're interested, the details are here.

Tancredo: U.S. Should Threaten Islamic Holy Sites

Thanks,
Obama H.

Doesn't Rush call him Ron "Red" Dellums?

re: #11 Ojoe

Last time I was there, the Black Muslim Bakery had a food vending stand inside the secure area of the Oakland International Airport.

You're a racist for even mentioning that!
/

re: #72 Liege

Doesn't Rush call him Ron "Red" Dellums?

He's a socialist.

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

Just what Oakland needs, another empty storefront. Sad that the criminals folks who ran that organization did not genuinely have the greater good of the community in mind when they set up their racket business.

There can quite obviously be no casual omission of the religious denomination of the suspects...... What?!? you mean it wasn't just a popular neighborhood bakery?

Dellums' protege is Barbara Lee, current Rep from Oakland.

I posted about this all morning on the dead thread.
It now seems that somebody had an undercover in that gang of theives and the murder of the reporter was the straw that broke the camel's back. I just saw that half a doz. different locations were raided & 19 in custody so far.

"Your Black Muslim Bakery serves as a vehicle for producing natural, revitalizing body and mind building foods, and also as a platform for raising the consciousness of his people transforming them into respectable and productive individuals. Empowering business and self awareness meetings are held every Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday."
[Link: www.ybmb.com...]

Food for Jihad

I saw Bey Jr. interviewed on TV last night -- about 6 hours before he was arrested!

re: #68 zombie

Yup.

Can you say Malcom X, kiddies?
I knew that you could!

Later, Lizardia!

What's that George W Bush up to now?

I'm sure their bagels were terrible anyhow.

re: #58 Ben Hur

8/3/07 ( Muhbabiya, Iraq ) - Seventeen women, children and elderly Iraqis are found in a mass grave following an al-Qaeda massacre.
8/2/07 ( Pattani, Thailand ) - Two Thai soldiers are killed in separate bombing and shooting attacks.
8/2/07 ( Balad, Somalia ) - An grenade attack on Ethiopians leaves one dead.
8/2/07 ( Hibhib, Iraq ) - Fifteen people are killed when a sucide bomber detonates along a city street.
8/2/07 ( Kirkuk, Iraq ) - Five brothers who worked as day laborers are kidnapped and executed by Muslim terrorists.
8/2/07 ( Balad, Iraq ) - A young girl is killed in a mortar barrage by Muslim terrorists.

8/1/07 (Powder Springs, GA) - A woman and two daughters found murdered, 2 boys in critical condition after being beaten. Possible ties to Kenyan muslims seeking revenge for seeking asylum:
Click

Funny how they use the surname "Bey". From Websters:

1 a : a provincial governor in the Ottoman Empire b : the former native ruler of Tunis or Tunisia
2 -- used as a courtesy title in Turkey and Egypt

Guess they fancy themselves hotshots.

They're actually very similar to the Black Panthers in their tactics and demeanor. Only difference is that they have a Muslim veneer, as opposed to a communsit veneer.

Same area, same "community," same thuggish revolutionary urge.

re: #37 zombie

Charles, I must say -- the search function on LGF is frustrating me! The Java calendar popups always give me spinning beachballs and never seem to work right.

Sigh.

Guess I'll have to quit Safari and re-launch and empty cache.

Not useful for quick searches!

Yeah, that's Safari causing the delay. The longer you have Safari open, the longer the delay gets.

I just changed the default search time for entries to be ALL entries (instead of the last month). That should make quick searches from the front page a lot better.

From the city that brought you the black panthers

re: #85 rokbassist

"Bey" is not an uncommon Muslim name. It's sort of like the surname "King" in English. But, yeah, I can also see where this bunch had some kind of delusions of grandeur.

re: #87 ploome hineni

PloooOOOoOooommme.
I have to go back to the couch.

I'll be watching this

See ya later!

re: #52 SlartyBartfast

re: #5 Adrenalyn

yes, "black muslims"

this term has always fascinated me

Arab muslims were the first to forcibly remove captured blacks from Africa and use them as foreign slaves (way before whites in other words)

that any black person would consider becoming a muslim surprises me

Indeed! I recently heard an interview with a Black Muslim on an extreme leftist moonbat talk radio program hosted by Coz Carson. (This was former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's Communications Director--the one that McKinney said was "a fool" while she was within a few feet of an open mic with a network feed.) Anyway, Coz and his guest spent the whole time talking about how the Southern States should pay reparations to the descendants of American slaves.

Ironic doesn't even begin to describe it.

Yes, it has always struck me as supremely ironic and sad that more and more in the black community identify with Islam. Its the only religion that actively supports slavery today and has been since its inception. Have a look at the "True History Of Slavery" chapter in Dr. Sowell's book for taste of the Arab's treatment of slaves:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
(For those few that don't know already, Dr. Sowell is black.)

In the famous video of UBL chuckling about how successful 9/11 was, at one point he refers to "the slaves". That, evidently, is still a common word in polite Arabic for black people.

re: #68 zombie

Chauncy Bailey, the black journalist whom they ALLEGEDLY murdered, used to own a black cable TV station on which Yusuf bey Sr. would give fiery anti-white and anti-Semitic sermons, broadcast to the whole Bay Area. That was one of the reasons Bailey was fired from the Oakland Tribune -- he was half journalist, half activist. And he used to be chummy with the Bey clan of NOI.

Then, later, he apparently had a split with them.

It's the oldest story in the book. Radicals ususually ALLEGEDLY murder those closest to them -- apostates.

Observe the niceties Z

re: #89 Charles

Thanks!

re: #70 inkling

As the Military and Progressives panel came to an end, a young man in uniform stood up to argue that the surge was working, and cutting down on Iraqi casualties. The moderator largely freaked out. When other members of the panel tried to answer his question, he demanded they "stand down." He demanded the questioner give his name...

So what was the question the soldier asked? The article seems to have left that out. The first paragraph makes it hard to understand what even happened.

re: #90 bulwrk

From the city that brought you the black panthers

You are Species-ist just for mentioning that!

/panthers are people too.

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

Was wondering that myself! When I read that...I thought it was because of yesterday's shooting of the editor of Oakland Post.

re: #98 Buck

A thousand pardons

re: #99 Psaturn

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

Was wondering that myself! When I read that...I thought it was because of yesterday's shooting of the editor of Oakland Post.

Also, longtime Oakland journalist Chauncey Bailey was reportedly researching an investigative piece into Your Black Muslim Bakery before he was shot and killed Thursday morning.

From the linked article to this post.

re: #84 Karole

Kinda of an uppity woman, creating all that fuss just b/c her daughters would be genitally mutilated.

//

Well it looks like Obama got the attention of the folks in Pakistan.

re: #77 zombie

Dellums' protege is Barbara Lee, current Rep from Oakland.

stop, you're killing me

I was born in Oakland, this is terribly embarassing.

But you left out Lionel Wilson
former mayor of Oaktown
who son was found with.....what, a couple hundred grand in cash and POUNDS of cocaine in the trunc of his car

and was it Dellums' kid shot during a hold up or some such ?

and Oakland, also home to "the" worst school district in the United States
seized by Federal and/or State authorities multiple times

OT, Good news:

No jail for corporal in Hamdania killing

By: North County Times
Jury still contemplating sentence for his squad leader

A Marine corporal guilty of conspiracy to kill an Iraqi was sentenced to a reduction in rank and time served this morning, meaning he will soon walk out of a Camp Pendleton jail and back into Marine life.

Cpl. Marshall Magincalda, who was in on a plot to kill the man but testified that he did not actually shoot him, hugged his family after his sentence was read.

"I get to go home," said the 24-year-old Magincalda. "I'm still in the Marine Corps."

Magincalda, whose rank will be reduced to private, could have been sentenced to life in prison. Prosecutors wanted him sent to jail for 10 years.

The sergeant did not offer apologies for the slaying. But during his sentencing hearing, he spoke about his squad's "frustration" of knowing specifically who the area's lead insurgent was. He said they were unable to stop him. The suspect had repeatedly been arrested and released, according to testimony.

"We could not do anything about it," Hutchins said. "Or I should say, we had done everything we could about it."

So they went after the insurgent on their own. When they couldn't get to him, they grabbed his neighbor, Hashim Ibrahim Awad, and carried out the rest of the plan.

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. "

Muhammed Last Sermon

Putting the last two threads together, my analysis concludes that we are on the verge of an attack on our food supply by Al Quaida.

Submarine sandwiches, to be specific.

re: #101 carbon footprint

re: #99 Psaturn

re: #1 rokbassist

any relation to the shooting of the newscaster yesterday in oakland?

Was wondering that myself! When I read that...I thought it was because of yesterday's shooting of the editor of Oakland Post.

Also, longtime Oakland journalist Chauncey Bailey was reportedly researching an investigative piece into Your Black Muslim Bakery before he was shot and killed Thursday morning.

From the linked article to this post.

Sorry, that was a bit confusing. I made the quoted text bold.

re: #66 Josephine

Here comes the CAIR-valry, galloping to their defense.

To kill the bad guys- infidels- and ride off into the sunset of the 21st century.

Is CAIR-valry yours, or did you get it from somewhere else? I want to steal it, but will give credit where credit is due.

re: #97 bosforus

re: #70 inkling

So what was the question the soldier asked? The article seems to have left that out. The first paragraph makes it hard to understand what even happened.

I'm not sure. That's the only reportage I can currently find on the incident. I'm sure lefty leaks will reveal more dirt... hopefully soon.

Your Black Muslim Bakery is not affialiated with:

Your Black Muslim numbers racket

Your Black Muslim enforcers

Your Black Muslim Plumber

Your Black Muslim used cars

Your Black Muslim sports franchise

Your Black Muslim babysitter

Your Black Muslim supermarket

Your Black Muslim womens' health clinic

re: #103 Just_A_Grunt

Too bad only Fox is going to report it. That way in a few years if Obama is pres and decides to send troops to Pakistan the MSM can agree with the idea and never claim to have known it would be a problem

re: #103 Just_A_Grunt

If it wasn't Obama, it'd be something else. Those asshats would be out there burning our flag and screaming "death to America" for one reason or another. Still, no picture of Rage Boy?!?!

re: #110 inkling

i just went over to Kos [shudder] and they don't have anything about it yet

Your Black Muslim womens' health clinic

Now that's a scary one.

Motto: 'Clits? We don't need no stinkin' clits!'

re: #106 xane

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. "

Muhammed Last Sermon

Are you kidding me? Does someone have an AGENDA?

They've also arrested a conspirator in the Bali nightclub bombing in San Jose. It's been a busy day rounding up muslim terrorists in the San Francisco Bay area.

I just completed a book project for an African-American Christian publisher called:

S.O.S.: SAVING OUR SONS
Preparing Our Young Black Men to Face the Challenge of Islam

According to the researchers, the three things young men seek to gain from Nation of Islam as well as orthodox islam are Dignity, Identity and Significance.

They also say the 70% of religious conversions in US prisons are to Islam--one type or another.

If all goes well the book will be released in early 2008.

re: #114 bosforus

re: #110 inkling

i just went over to Kos [shudder] and they don't have anything about it yet

Hit the showers.

re: #113 mickthemick

Why oh why does Obama pronounce it Pock-istan?

re: #102 cbinflux

The nerve of some people. Obviously she had her priorities all backward.

re: #103 Just_A_Grunt

Well it looks like Obama got the attention of the folks in Pakistan.

Dying to know what the signs say in the third photo!

re: #116 insanity police

Or am I just being paranoid?

re: #120 carbon footprint

Oh, did you think that he was talking about an actual place?

re: #104 Adrenalyn

re: #77 zombie

Dellums' protege is Barbara Lee, current Rep from Oakland.

stop, you're killing me

I was born in Oakland, this is terribly embarassing.

But you left out Lionel Wilson
former mayor of Oaktown
who son was found with.....what, a couple hundred grand in cash and POUNDS of cocaine in the trunc of his car

and was it Dellums' kid shot during a hold up or some such ?

and Oakland, also home to "the" worst school district in the United States
seized by Federal and/or State authorities multiple times

You're correct about the Oakland schools. The District's incredibly dilapidated headquarters building is the "Paul Robeson Building". I am not making this up.

re: #121 Karole

That's what happens when you let them out of the bag.

re: #120 carbon footprint

I attended the University of Michigan, and actually had two courses with Juan Cole. He pronounced it that way, too. He was the first person I heard say "Pock-eestahn," like he'd just got off the boat from Lahore or some damn thing. It's all about LLL cred - they're tyring to sound like they're "down" with the 'ummah.

OT: British Muslims admit to killing hundreds of Serbs on film

re: #126 cbinflux

You mean "out of the kitchen"?

re: #127 mickthemick

Juan Cole is Vampire Moonbat. He makes me sick.

re: #124 cbinflux

Obama wants to kick some islamic a$$. Not with nuclear weapons, of course, but neo-cons can dream.

In fairness, most muslims want nothing to do with the NOI, it is not considered a true islamic organization

I want to know if Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson are going to get in on this one.

This bakery crew is not NOI, correct?

re: #75 mickthemick

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

Just what Oakland needs, another empty storefront. Sad that the criminals folks who ran that organization did not genuinely have the greater good of the community in mind when they set up their racket business.

Not to worry. I understand that it will soon be replaced by My Zionist Jewish Delicatessen.

re: #84 Karole

There is absolutely nothing in the Powder Springs story to indicate a connection to Islam. The family were Christians. Their asylum petition was based on a fear of FGM (which had been performed on the mom in her youth) The petition had been turned down but they were appealing. You do know that FGM is a custom in many parts of Africa and not just among Muslims, right?

I'm taking this one a bit personally because the daughters went to the same school as my son.

re: #133 DIAMONDMASC

In fairness, most muslims want nothing to do with the NOI, it is not considered a true islamic organization

I would really like to know the true meaning of Islam.

Oh, wait. Nevermind.

re: #109 AmeriDan

re: #66 Josephine

Here comes the CAIR-valry, galloping to their defense.

To kill the bad guys- infidels- and ride off into the sunset of the 21st century.

Is CAIR-valry yours, or did you get it from somewhere else? I want to steal it, but will give credit where credit is due.

It just came to me. Maybe it was all the talk about religion on the other thread. (There's a song that goes, "Lest I forget Gesthemane, lead me Calvary." It drives me crazy to remember it because then I end up saying, "calvary, cavalry" over and over again in my head.)

Steal away.

h

THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S LAST SERMON
(This Sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H in the Uranah Valley of mount Arafat ) Note: Found on the Net, but without source or copyright information. Please contact halsall@muray.fordham.edu if you have information

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I don't know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you carefully and TAKE THIS WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (Interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for your safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to commit adultery.

O People, listen to me in earnest, whorship ALLAH, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. YOU ARE ALL EQUAL. NOBODY HAS SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER EXCEPT BY PIETY AND GOOD ACTION.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR'AN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE."

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(c)Paul Halsall Jan 1996

re: #106 xane

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. "

Muhammed Last Sermon

and you know this beacuse.................?

i can read and use google.

#55 Kreuzueber Halbmond 8/03/2007 10:14:48 am PDT reply quote

[Link: [Link: www.ybmb.com...]...]
Not your everyday Mom and Pop kinda place either.

one of their related businesses is listed as "Security".

I get a "404 page not found" when I click the link.

Anybody ever heard of a bakery in the security business?

OOPs, Charles sorry about the email address it was embedded. I thought I got them all.

re: #17 Harry Tuttle

Cheese, wine, pork fritters, and crackers

Is there a live feed for this? Dammit, I wish I were back in Oakland so that I could watch this. Hey zombie, will you go over there and take some pictures for us?

re: #129 Karole

bag = burqa

re: #27 namesagame

I live in Oakland. This is just the latest in a *long* series of (probable) crimes committed by these ROP'ers.

Here's a great article about them from back in '02.
[Link: www.eastbayexpress.com...]

Mohammadean Mafia?

You know when the NOI here in oakland are around, they travel in convoys of blacked out chevy suburbans and a 40 passenger bus, not really keeping a low profile

re: #105 Iron Fist

this really bothers me, my nephew is a marine ssgt currently serving in iraq. I really worry about him being killed while he mulls over whether it is better to shoot first or to wait. He is infantry.

All your (mmm) bearclaws (MMmmm these are quite, mmm, tasty) are belong to us!

Got a napkin?

#141 xane

"i can read and use google."

But, can you do those things simultaneously?

re: #137 doppelganglander

Went to the same school, or GOES to? I have a personal interest as well. And, the common understanding is that it's Muslim retaliation.
We'll see.

re: #141 xane

Yeah- well so can I.

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

surah 9:123

re: #154 buzzsawmonkey

re: #152 Daisy

#141 xane

"i can read and use google."

But, can you do those things simultaneously?

While chewing khat?

And screwing a goat &/or vegetables?

That bakery's the bomb.

Sorry if someone has already posted this link to the Black Muslim Bakery website.

Your Black Muslim Bakery

re: #158 carbon footprint

Sorry if someone has already posted this link to the Black Muslim Bakery website.

Your Black Muslim Bakery

Funny, I didn't see 'get raided by the SWAT team on August 3rd" under events :)

re: #26 Ringo the Gringo

Oakland has a long history of black nationalists and Nation of Islam types killing people.

.....on the other hand, maybe the cops are just after the donuts?

I can't stop laughing!

re: #150 Eowyn2,

Yeah, the last thing a soldier needs is having to worry about a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks sitting in a comfortable room a thousand miles away second guessing his every move in the middle of a firefight. The enemy we are facing doesn't wear uniforms, doesn't hold to "fronts" where the sides are clearly delineated, and generally tries to blend in with the civilian population as SOP. In that environment, I am highly skeptical of "murder in combat" charges.

Yes, civilians will be killed by mistake in such an environment. That is the fault of the enemy that hides himself amongst the civilians, and the civilian collaborators that aid the enemy in masking himself as a civilian.

I'd rather the ROE called for us to shoot first, and not really ask questions later. That may sound hard and harsh, but war isn't a game where you get to call "time out", and go home and rest.

re: #141 xane

i can read and use google.

And if you read it on the internet, it must be so.

#142 1310

Anybody ever heard of a bakery in the security business?

Snitzer's ater Jerry stole Mrs. Choate's marble rye! :^)

re: #146 cbinflux

re: #129 Karole

bag = burqa

Hillary

Nice of the owners to make it easy for people.
At least we won't have to put with reporting along the lines of "A bakery owned by people of undetermined religion and race was surrounded by police." Then again if Al Reuters reports on it that might well be what they'll write: "An unnamed bakery was surrounded by police."

#163 me
PIMF ater=after

re: #165 Aylios

Nice of the owners to make it easy for people.
At least we won't have to put with reporting along the lines of "A bakery owned by people of undetermined religion and race was surrounded by police." Then again if Al Reuters reports on it that might well be what they'll write: "An unnamed bakery mosque was surrounded by police."

/be lucky if it doesn't say that

re: #63 cbinflux

re: #55 Kreuzueber Halbmond

[Link: www.ybmb.com...]
Not your everyday Mom and Pop kinda place either.

Almost nothing having to do with Business. Strange site.

"Where the cooking kills."

re: #26 Ringo the Gringo

Oakland has a long history of black nationalists and Nation of Islam types killing people.

.....on the other hand, maybe the cops are just after the donuts?

if the cops wanted donuts they would have gone to Donut Time down around 35th & MacArthur
excellent donuts, but go armed and with a posse
make that an armed posse

Their carrot bread is out of this world, people, I stop by every time I pass to pick some up.
As organized crime food fronts go, this was a nice one.

Here is a picture of one of the bakeries from Google Street View. If you step forward take a look at the message on the sign outside - "Taste of... the Hereafter". Nice message. The other one in Oakland is a few more clicks forward.

Google Street View

I've never heard of a bakery that has it's own school. Learn somehting new every day, I suppose. Here's something from the school's mission statement: E.E.C. STAFF

The Center's staff is committed to excellence in academics and conduct. Our motto is "each one teach one". Each one teach one what?,
The knowledge of self is so powerful that it will instill pride an the need to bring our people out of the state of mental bondage that permeates our existence here in the hells of North America.  We groom our children for ownership.  The kind of ownership that serves humanity.  Our children learn to break the pattern that continues to enslave our minds.  No longer will we subscribe to the slave masters patterning of get a good education to get a good job. 

aka: The Jihad of Applying for Welfare $$$.

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

re: #169 Adrenalyn

Bean pies. They wanted bean pies.

I prefer sweet potato fries. Yummy !

I think "Black Muslims" are an offshoot of the "nation of Islam" or even the from "nation of Islam" before Eliza Mohammad admitted that his racist cult wasn't really Islam and asked his followers to learn about Islam.

"Black Muslim Bakery" reminds me a little of SNL's old "Gay Communist Gun Club" skit.

So it's possible that "Black Muslims" are some weird racist cult that isn't very Islamic.

re: #176 Occasional Reader
re: #176 Occasional Reader

"Black Muslim Bakery" reminds me a little of SNL's old "Gay Communist Gun Club" skit.

I think they have a blog.

re: #153 Karole

He just graduated. One of the girls would have been a sophomore. He didn't know her but has friends in that subdivision. I still don't see where you get Muslim retaliation out of that article. Do you have another source?

re: #30 mean Gene

Just what identifying characteristics distinguish a gang from a muslim cell?

None that I can think of offhand.

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry, I couldn't remember how to spell "Elijah"

Actually "Eliza Muhammed" should be a computer conversation program that answers every question with either "It's the fault of the Jews!" or "Death to the infidels!"

..and occasionally, "earlier you mentioned your mother."

Actually, this isn't the first time the Nation of Islam cult (actually, it really isn't muslim) has been involved in serious criminal activity in the Bay Area.

Remember the Zebra murder spree? The massacre turned out to be Black Muslims holding a murder contest.

Wonder why no movie has ever been made of the Zebra affair.

re: #180 doppelganglander

We probably know some of the same people. I'm a local. (don't feel comfortable saying more)

Right now, the only thing that I can pass on definitely, is an snippet from wsbradio.com

Jane Kuria's husband was murdered in Kenya because of his opposition to female genital mutilation.
Cook, who represents the Kuria family in their bid for asylum in the United States, said he was confident that they would get their wish to remain here. He says Kuria was panic stricken about the possibility of returning to Kenya for fear her daughters would be forced to submit to female circumcision. Cook hopes the murders are not in retaliation for the family's flight from Kenya in 2001.

Click for article

I'll post more as I can.

Dead terrorists are peaceful.

Blessed be the Peacemakers.

re: #185 Karole

I had not seen that. Again, FGM is not solely a Muslim custom, so until someone named Muhammed is tied to this incident, I don't feel it's accurate to say "Kenyan muslims seeking revenge for seeking asylum." It sounds like the police are exploring that angle and probably others as well.

Feel free to email if you'd prefer to take this offline.

re: #184 Mardukhai

Yep. I was a Bay Area resident for almost 20 years before I even heard of the Zebra killings.

Its simply not discussed out here.

Please, why is NOI "not really" an islamic organization?

Hmmm, the inquiry may need to head towards the Moorish Science Temple, though it's usually part of a hyphenated name ie Bey-*** .....

re: #85 rokbassist

Funny how they use the surname "Bey". From Websters:

1 a : a provincial governor in the Ottoman Empire b : the former native ruler of Tunis or Tunisia
2 -- used as a courtesy title in Turkey and Egypt

Guess they fancy themselves hotshots.

Your Black Muslim Bakery.
Just like the prison cooks used to bake!

re: #142 1310nm

#55 Kreuzueber Halbmond 8/03/2007 10:14:48 am PDT reply quote [Link: [Link: www.ybmb.com...]...]
Not your everyday Mom and Pop kinda place either.

one of their related businesses is listed as "Security".

Having security companies is a good way to be able to keep firearms. Al Fuqra (black Muslims who live in rural compounds around the U.S. and Canada) sometimes own security companies.

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

re: #189 kuchuklambat

Please, why is NOI "not really" an islamic organization?

They have a number of beliefs which are not part of orthodox Islam.

Don't they believe their founder was the Messiah?

The Black Muslim Bakery worship Elijah Mohammed, who was denounced by Malcolm X for having sex with teenage girls.

Why I left the Nation of Islam (Black Musims)

Nasty little outfit, preaching Black Supremacism. Not sure how they fit that with Islamic supremacism, but I suppose birds of a feather flock together.

re: #74 zombie

re: #72 Liege

Doesn't Rush call him Ron "Red" Dellums?

He's a socialist.

You are too kind/PC. :-)

I would use the C word and maybe throw in King of the East Bay for the last 30 or so years. We have 2 massive Federal monuments downtown bearing his majesties name.

re: #195 Josephine

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

re: #189 kuchuklambat

Please, why is NOI "not really" an islamic organization?

They have a number of beliefs which are not part of orthodox Islam.

Don't they believe their founder was the Messiah?

Well if they hold on to Elijah Mohammad's original teaching, they have a theology that's completely insane and has nothing to do with Islam.

The original Mohammad was also completely insane, of course, but he didn't teach that white men are demons created by an evil african sorcerer who "grafted" them on to the human race in order to torment the real men.

I write etc. because it's hard to remember insane ravings, since none of them make sense... I don't remember the rest. But for some reason the voices in Elijah Mohammad's head told him nonsense unrelated to the nonsense dictated from voices in the head of the original Mohammad.

Doesn't Barak Hussein Obama belong to a church that espouses pretty much the same black-supremecist-crapola ?

re: #198 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

Thanks. I think they were all insane.

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

"...In other words, take the hatred, supremacist teachings, and the trappings of Islam, add a touch of the Knights of the Sea Lodge, some of the revivalist lectern-pounding from black churches, a and toss in a little science fiction, and you've got the Nation of Islam..."

Thanks. What a recipe for disaster.

Hmmm, something tastes funny...

Oh, here: you left out a twidge of anti-Semitism. That'll fix it.

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

re: #202 Josephine

The antisemitism is a given; it is included via both the Islamic trappings and the black supremacism.

That's one of the many reasons why Islam can't be reformed.

I've got some background on Yusef Bey IV

Evidence recovered during the police raid at Your Black Muslim Bakery Friday morning links members of the organization to the ambush killing of Oakland Post Editor Chauncey Bailey, authorities said.
...
Police would not give specific details about the cases they believe are linked to the people associated with the bakery, but did say some were committed last year and earlier this year.

Two are believed to be shooting deaths of two men last month within a few blocks of the bakery, in pre-dawn hours. One was the July 12 shooting death of Michael J. Wills Jr., 36, who had addresses in both Oakland and Fremont. He was gunned down in the 6200 block of San Pablo Avenue.

Four days earlier, Odell Roberson Jr., 31, was shot to death in the 1000 block of 60th Street. Police suspected the murders were connected because of the circumstances and similarities of weapons used.

Charles's original link above now goes to an article titled, "Attorney: Slain Journalist's Article To Implicate Black Muslim Bakery." It contains this sentence:

Jordan said that the investigation "should not been seen as an investigation of any faith tradition."

Donuts of Death! ™

Wonder what ingredients they use in their bread? At least it isn't a deli. Wasn't their some Muslim deli owner in the UK who kidnapped and murdered a teenager and turned her into sausage.

They were cited for BWB -- Baking While Black.

re: #17 Harry Tuttle

Can I open a shop called "Whiteys Cheese and Wine"?

that would have to be "Whitey's Cracker Store".

I heard there was a trail of flour and biscuits leading all the way back to the bakery.

Yeah, it may be tempting but I wouldn't go so far as to connect these thugs to the global jihadists. At least not based on what we've heard so far.
They remind me of a similar black nationalist cult in Miami, the "Yahweh" sect. They were a gang of anti-white racist separatists who, believe it or not, proclaimed themselves to be the only true JEWS!
Through an ostensible agenda of neighborhood "improvement, "entrepreneurship" and "crime fighting," the "Yahwehs" got lots of praise and adulation from the myopic metro Miami political set until someone noticed they were terrorizing their neighborhood, and even committing murders.
Finally the cult leader Yahweh ben Yahweh was locked up for a whole list of RICO type offenses.
Not that "Your Muslim Bakery" COULDN'T be yet another jihadi incursion, but it could just be homegrown lowlifes wrapping themselves in the indimidating costume of Islam.

re: #118 undhimmicratic

Hi! I mentioned your comment to an acquaintance of mine who works with high school kids who are having problems. He was interested in your book. Who are the author and publisher? Will it be available through amazon?

Their camel claws suck anyway.

I wonder if Huey and Eldredge were working the register?