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Thursday Overnight Thread

Thu, Aug 9, 2007 at 9:40:50 pm PDT

As day turns to night, and the lonesome yell of the coyote echoes over the high desert, here’s an overnight open thread...

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1 Caliredst8r  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:42:24pm

Just in time for bed

2 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:43:11pm

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

3 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:44:50pm

I like the high desert!

4 RTLM  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:45:22pm

Wolves make much better howlers. Coyotes just sort of "yipe yipe yipe" as a group.

5 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:45:28pm

The high desert?

Dude take the mothership back to the beach please!

6 Caliredst8r  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:45:28pm

Meep, meep!

7 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:46:46pm
As day turns to night

Time.

8 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:46:51pm
As day turns to night, and the lonesome yell of the coyote echoes over the high desert, here’s an overnight open thread...

Can we round that out some more? We have starlight and campfire too, yes?

/Let's make smores!

9 psaturn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:47:12pm

You are in the high desert ?

I am in the LOW desert !

Let me know ! I can take you to a treat !

10 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:47:13pm

And the coyotes around here don't seem very lonesome. They frequently sound, uh, much more involved then lonesome. And there sure are a lot of pups come spring.

11 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:48:28pm

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,

there

made a few more commas for tfk and sat?

/can't remember the nics of all the comma addicts

12 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:48:43pm

re: #2 Dublin(CA)Dude

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

WELL, They are across the road in the 600 acre pasture in front of the house, and packs of them running and yelping on the back 40 here in the deep South... Dublin Dude, my dogs going nuts when they start yelping at the trains in the distance,...heh heh...they get unbelievably loud...

13 bosforus  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:48:53pm

And if you're looking for some coyotes for target practice, might I suggest these?

14 itellu3times  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:49:21pm

Open Doctor Memory!

15 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:50:07pm

Oh, that reminds me of the nutty woman in the line ahead of me at Wal*Mart the other day. She went on and on about my need to get batteries for The Kid's new, big-ass, brass clock. I told her a few times (then, I just ignored her--she really was obsessed) that I had the "C" batteries at home.

Dagnabit. I was wrong. Wrong. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

16 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:50:54pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

Weenie roast!

17 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:51:47pm

re: #12 BODYGUARDEAGLE

I grew up in NYC, so living here in suburban San Francisco, I'm just amazed at the wildlife that exist amid so much development. A few hundred acres of open space and the coyotes and turkeys just thrive. And I'm talking about packs of coyotes and 70-80 turkeys at a time invading the local residences.

When I was growing up, my idea of wildlife was pigeons and rats. Nice change.

18 Akiva Tzippor  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:52:27pm

Ron Paul!

19 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:52:31pm

Saturday is the Murder, She Wrote marathon on the Hallmark Channel.

Heaven!

20 FQ Kafir  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:52:44pm

Is Charles channeling Art Bell?

21 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:53:16pm

Here Chen, Chen, Chen!

22 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:53:27pm

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

I heard one of the towns in the area was thinking of having a turkey hunt.

/parents live in Concord

23 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:53:28pm

I number 22

24 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:53:51pm

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

There are turkeys in San Francisco?

25 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:53:55pm

High desert?
Carlos Castaneda?
Stay away from mirrors!

26 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:54:10pm

re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

27 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:54:20pm

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

Keep your cats inside. I lost a cat to a mountain lion near Denver a while back.

28 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:54:47pm

re: #26 unclassifiable

re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

That's Mister to you

29 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:55:05pm

re: #24 DesertSage

Yeah

Grand Gobbler Pelosi fer one

30 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:55:09pm

re: #25 IslandLibertarian

High desert?

High Island.

31 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:55:16pm

re: #26 unclassifiable

re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

Miss? Ah, you sexist pig! It's Ms.

32 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:56:13pm

re: #22 unclassifiable

The turkeys have become a problem equal to the Canadian geese. The population has exploded in recent years and they are everywhere. Nasty, dirty birds, the roast on cars and houses, eat everything in sight and have no fear of man.

And of course, some people just have to feed them, like the do the racoons.

If you think geese leave a mess, you see what the turkeys leave. People back east laugh when I mention it, but it has become a very serious problem in the area.

33 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:56:39pm

Is this the coyote thread?

Oh, boy! Where's the lamb shish-kabobs?

34 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:56:50pm

re: #24 DesertSage

I don't live in SF, I live in Dublin, 25 miles SE of SF and 25 miles NE of San Jose.

35 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:56:57pm

re: #28 coquimbojoe


No no

you said "I number 22"

I said "Miss" 'cause your not 22

not cause you are a miss

or something is amiss

hmmm

36 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:58:12pm

re: #16 MandyManners

And tequila! Where's Sage?

37 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:58:51pm

re: #27 MandyManners

I don't own a cat here, but people who do try to keep them indoors. A loose cat frequently becomes "coyote chow". And we do see the occasional mountain lion, usually in the fall, when, after six or seven months of dry weather, the deer come down from Mount Diablo to feed in the irrigated yards and the mountain lions follow them.

38 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:59:06pm

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #12 BODYGUARDEAGLE

I grew up in NYC, so living here in suburban San Francisco, I'm just amazed at the wildlife that exist amid so much development. A few hundred acres of open space and the coyotes and turkeys just thrive. And I'm talking about packs of coyotes and 70-80 turkeys at a time invading the local residences.

When I was growing up, my idea of wildlife was pigeons and rats. Nice change.


************************************************** *********

Dublin Dude, I grew up in the Deep South,[Alabama], and wild Turkeys were for hunting, and the Coyotes had actually just started migrating BACK in to our areas, they had all been killed as predators and pest in the late 40's and early 50's..
After 20 years or so of unchecked breeding and cross-breeding with loose pets and wild dogs, they are getting HUGE in our rural area. I've shot two in the last year as big as big German Shepherds, that looked more like wolves. One had just killed a baby calf in the big pasture across the road as I watched, and then ran to get my rifle to dispatch it.

39 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:59:30pm

re: #31 MandyManners

re: #26 unclassifiable

re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

Miss? Ah, you sexist pig! It's Ms.

I'm old fashioned.

40 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:59:43pm

The songdog lurks on the periphery of the flock. He is hungry, but he is patient.

He watches to see who falls behind.

41 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:00:06pm
42 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:00:09pm

re: #32 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #31 MandyManners

re: #28 coquimbojoe


OK OK Is this the coyote, pig, turkey or friggin gender title thread?!

Dammit people make up yer mindz!

43 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:00:16pm

re: #34 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #24 DesertSage

I don't live in SF, I live in Dublin, 25 miles SE of SF and 25 miles NE of San Jose.

But...they do have turkeys in SF?

44 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:00:46pm

re: #30 DesertSage

wusss hap'nin dude.........?.......
Maui Wowie?
Kauai Electric?
Elephant?

That was long long ago and far far away........

Power to the Correct People!
(The sober ones too.)

45 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:01:10pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

He's present and accounted for.

46 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:01:20pm

re: #27 MandyManners

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

Keep your cats inside. I lost a cat to a mountain lion near Denver a while back.

Mandy, I've lost some really good rural country farm cats to the coyotes, and I mean these cats were domestics, but big Thoms, that were the killers of the farm rodents themselves.

47 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:01:46pm

re: #38 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The local coyotes are still rather small, and still very shy and avoid contact with humans as much as possible. I hope that doesn't change.

48 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:01:59pm

Hear that lonesome whipporwill...

I was tempted to put up the Hank Sr. version, but LeAnn is much purtier.

Okay, here's Hank.

49 Beagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:02:06pm

Libya admits torturing nurses...
BBC puts "torture" in scare quotes even though it's the younger Gaddafi admitting they used electricity.

50 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:02:41pm

re: #43 DesertSage

I seldom go into SF, but somehow, I don't think they do, unless you consider wacked out lefties as turkeys, in which case they are overwhelmed with them.

51 Magalaga Ding Dong  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:02:41pm

Bluuuuue shadows on the traaaaaaaaail....
Soft wind blowin' through the treeeees abooooooove...

/Martin Short, 3 Amigos

Night, Lizardz

52 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:03:14pm

re: #37 Dublin(CA)Dude

After my initial outrage, I didn't blame the mountain lion.

Hell, we were intruding on HIS property.

53 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:04:03pm

re: #41 MandyManners

Only moose I've ever seen were in Yellowstone Park.

54 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:04:16pm

re: #33 SgtSongdog

Is this the coyote thread?

Oh, boy! Where's the lamb shish-kabobs?

************************************************** *******
SGTsongdog, we're just discussing the aggravations of another pest such as the Leftist and 'Troofers' lol

55 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:05:20pm

re: #44 IslandLibertarian

Elephant?

Elephant you say?

Yes, an elephant...
An elephant is a majestic, noble, feeling, intelligent animal.
A donkey...is just a jackass!

56 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:05:39pm

Disturbance near Jamaica could threaten Western GOMEX coast mid-week, probably neat Tampico, but South Party Island, TX not 100% in the clear.

Environment Canada model forecasts biggie in the Gulf. However, as a caveat, the Canadian model was programmed by crack smokers.

57 NY Nana  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:05:58pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Time after time

Good luck today. Bet you cry when The Kid goes to school!

58 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:04pm

re: #47 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #38 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The local coyotes are still rather small, and still very shy and avoid contact with humans as much as possible. I hope that doesn't change.

************************************************** **********
Dublin Dude, thats the way i remember them when i was a kid, but they have progressively gotten bigger....and less afraid of humans and Guard dogs, and the herd dogs,

59 abolitionist  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:17pm

More victims found in US bridge collapse
10 Aug 2007 01:39:50 GMT

MINNEAPOLIS, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Authorities said on Thursday that searchers have found the remains of more victims in the wreckage of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, raising the total death toll so far to at least eight.

One of the victims was identified as 47-year-old Peter Hausmann of Rosemount, Minnesota, who had been among the eight listed as missing and presumed dead following the Aug. 1 collapse of the Interstate 35W bridge into the Mississippi River.

Remains of other victims besides Hausmann were also found, Minnesota Department of Public Safety spokesman Christine Krueger said, without being more specific.
[snip]

Peter Hausmann + more victims. That's as specific as this story gets. Doesn't the public have a right to know how many?

60 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:24pm

re: #52 MandyManners

Mountain lions not to be messed with but they are majestic.

I stood about 50 yards from one at Big Bend. Felt like my heart was about to pound out of my chest.

/bbbig kitty

61 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:32pm

re: #39 coquimbojoe

So am I. To a point.

BTW, how does one pronounce your nic?

62 Beagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:49pm

Yale expert: Not enough known about anti-Semitism

.....
Across 10 European countries, Small and Kaplan conducted a telephone survey of 5,000 respondents, asking them about issues of classical anti-Semitic stereotypes and about anti-Israeli views. "There were questions about whether the IDF purposely targets children, whether Israel poisons the Palestinians' water supply - these sorts of extreme mythologies," Small says.

The study found that Europeans who are extremely anti-Israel are also disproportionately anti-Semitic. "The people who believed the anti-Israel mythologies also tended to believe that Jews are not honest in business, have dual loyalties, control government and the economy, and the like," Small says. The correlation is an astonishing 56%. That is, an Israel-hating European is 56% more likely to be anti-Semitic as well than the average European.

"This is extraordinary. It's off the charts," says Small. "If a food or a drug was 56% more likely to cause cancer, it would be taken off the shelf."
.....

63 MikeySDCA  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:56pm

Fox ran a clip from Cindy Sheehan announcing her run against Nancy Pelosi. Cindy cited the U. S. Constitution regarding impeachment. I did a little research on her citation. She got it wrong, really wrong.

I realized that I had misappreciated this bitch. I had thought her garden-variety suburban dumb with a lot of falling in love with the camera. I was wrong.

She is STUPID!

64 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:58pm

re: #55 DesertSage

and then there is Thai-Stick Elephant Gras........ahh, you had to be there.......

PTTCP!

65 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:07:17pm

re: #42 unclassifiable

re: #32 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #31 MandyManners

re: #28 coquimbojoe


OK OK Is this the coyote, pig, turkey or friggin gender title thread?!

Dammit people make up yer mindz!

All of the above.

66 NY Nana  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:07:57pm

re: #59 abolitionist

There could be trouble identifying some victims, and DNA testing is required, and/or family has to be located...

67 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:08:44pm

re: #65 MandyManners

Ms.

That's a miss. It's now the mountain lion thread.

68 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:08:56pm

re: #54 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Hmm. Hope this works -- first time I've tried the new "reply" feature.

Agreed about all three pests, but someone has to defend my namesake!

/indignant

69 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:09:00pm

re: #57 NY Nana

One of my favorite Cindi Lauper songs, thanks so much!

70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:09:29pm

on local Fox affiliate, re-run of "Cops", Tarrant County constables and Mansfield PD arresting D&D redneck in trailer park. Man has empties of MD 20/20.

Why the same people that make Mogen David Kosher Blackberry wine in Upstate NY would also make the preferred beverage of rural North Texas T.T., is just beyond me.

71 NY Nana  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:09:55pm

re: #69 Dublin(CA)Dude

You are most welcome. Same here. Enjoy!

72 Student of Objectivism  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:10:07pm

Dear Lizards,

You may be interested in this:

Neoconservative Foreign Policy: An Objectivist Perspective

From The Objective Standard, entitled Neoconservative Foreign Policy: An Autopsy by Yaron Brook and Alex Epstein

Thanks

73 Poimanester  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:10:08pm

I live in the high desert. It's my property. Mountain lion couldn't hold it. Too bad, so sad.

74 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:10:28pm

re: #56 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Disturbance near Jamaica could threaten Western GOMEX coast mid-week, probably neat Tampico, but South Party Island, TX not 100% in the clear.

00_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpg" target="_blank">Environment Canada model forecasts biggie in the Gulf. However, as a caveat, the Canadian model was programmed by crack smokers.

That link should have worked. Well, I'll just paste URL. Maybe Canadian programmers also on crack when designing EC website.

[Link: www.weatheroffice.gc.ca...]

75 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:10:46pm

re: #70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

A finely tuned marketing machine.

76 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:11:00pm
77 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:12:04pm

re: #70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

BTW I have been drunk on MD 20/20 in Dallas

78 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:12:09pm

re: #68 SgtSongdog

re: #54 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Hmm. Hope this works -- first time I've tried the new "reply" feature.

Agreed about all three pests, but someone has to defend my namesake!

/indignant

************************************************** *********
SGTSongdog......many on here will get your back, and help defend the SGT's namesake, i'm sure... lol

79 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:12:15pm

G'night, all!

80 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:12:26pm

re: #46 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The one I lost found me the night that Lt. Col. Oliver North spoke in Seattle back in the late 1980s. This cat had survived in a nasty urban environment.

81 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:13:10pm

Maybe the ampersands in the URL mess up the linkage.

Go here, [Link: www.weatheroffice.gc.ca...] , and pick your own forecast time.

82 MrArchieBunker  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:13:38pm

I was overjoyed to hear about the reputations of those 2 Marines being restored today. The Haditha 'massacre' was a fraud and a hoax from day 1, brought to you by the very same vermin who brought you the Jenin 'massacre'. Just when all the PC garbage begins to get on your nerves and your Psyche, good news arrives. I am self deleting comments about Murtha and Tim McGirk.

83 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:13:56pm

re: #71 NY Nana

Did you ever hear her "At Last" CD from about three years ago? Great work.
Underappreciated artist.

84 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:13:57pm

re: #2 Dublin(CA)Dude

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

I will take coyote's any day than frogs.

/snicker

85 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:14:00pm

re: #70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

on local Fox affiliate, re-run of "Cops", Tarrant County constables and Mansfield PD arresting D&D redneck in trailer park. Man has empties of MD 20/20.

Why the same people that make Mogen David Kosher Blackberry wine in Upstate NY would also make the preferred beverage of rural North Texas T.T., is just beyond me.

************************************************** *********
LMAO..........ED>>>>>>>> IT's Redneck CHEAP ! lol............

86 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:15:05pm

re: #49 Beagle

Libya admits torturing nurses...
BBC puts "torture" in scare quotes even though it's the younger Gaddafi admitting they used electricity.

I wish we would bomb the fuck out of them on behalf of those victims.

87 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:15:28pm

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #46 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The one I lost found me the night that Lt. Col. Oliver North spoke in Seattle back in the late 1980s. This cat had survived in a nasty urban environment.

************************************************** *********
Mandy, Thats a shame, made it in the hard city, but in the WILD, it IS a different story altogether....

88 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:15:47pm

re: #42 unclassifiable

re: #61 MandyManners

re: #39 coquimbojoe

So am I. To a point.

BTW, how does one pronounce your nic?

Coe-kim-boe Joe

89 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:16:04pm

My dad recently forwarded an email newsletter from Dick Armey's blog, that said their online poll showed Ron Paul with 56% of the vote.

The RonPaulistas are legion! And spamming!

I told dad to disregard all online "polls".

90 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:16:28pm

re: #57 NY Nana

re: #7 MandyManners

Time after time

Good luck today. Bet you cry when The Kid goes to school!

HA! Not at all.

91 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:17:04pm

re: #88 coquimbojoe

Where's the accented syllable?

92 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:17:20pm

re: #84 Highrise

Highrise, I love the frogs, can't wait for that first rainy night when the tree frogs burst into song. Amazing how much noise a tiny little (less than a inch long) frog can make.

93 Steve  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:17:47pm

I used to go coyote hunting when I was a kid. They were very fast learners.
We would build a fire and wait in the shadows against a tree until we say the glow of their eyes.
We would then shoot between their eyes.
This worked fine for about the first 4 hours.
After that we kept coming up shy with carcasses.
Stumped at why this was happening we decided to get a portable spotlight and see what was going on.
When their beady little eyes appeared again we immediately put the spot light on them. Much to our surprise they had bee putting their heads close together and then closing their outside eyes.
We had been shooting between them.
Smart little critters.

94 coquimbojoe  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:18:08pm

re: #91 MandyManners

re: #88 coquimbojoe

Where's the accented syllable?

Kim, I guess. I have been called that since '84, so I haven't really thought of it.

95 Salem  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:18:21pm

re: #53 Dublin(CA)Dude

Funny story: my Dad and I went on a trip to see all the sights in Wyoming; Jackson Hole; Devil's Tower; Grand Tetons; lots of mind-numbing prairie in between, taking pictures all the way. At Yellowstone lake I spotted a Moose on the other side and, seeing that I only had one shot left in my camera, I elected to snap a picture of this moose, not really concerned that with the moose so far off, it wouldn't make for a impressive picture because we were about to get in the old scout and head back home. The moment I snapped the picture, this moose starts to amble across the lake and, to my astonishment made a line straight to me. This moose was three feet away, looking me right in the face, and I had snapped my last picture when he was a dot on the horizon. He sort of snorted at me once, and then moseyed off along the trail.

Disappointing, but kind of magical at the same time.

96 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:18:22pm

re: #63 MikeySDCA


Fox ran a clip from Cindy Sheehan announcing her run against Nancy Pelosi.

I saw that..and man did she look bad. I'm not just saying that. Her shoulders were hunched, her face had the actual look of depression on it, she was pale and kind of sickly looking....not candidate material for sure.

While I passionately dislike her, I would bet she sticks to her true self more than pelosi...but pelosi is a millionnaire. Not only is it a fat chance for sheehan to win in that district due to pelosi's money and history of reelections there and the fact she IS the 3rd in line which does have an impact on decision vote making, she just doesn't look confident enough as a leader to make it. But if you look at most green party types, none of them look healthy that try to run.

97 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:18:51pm

re: #89 SgtSongdog

My dad recently forwarded an email newsletter from Dick Armey's blog, that said their online poll showed Ron Paul with 56% of the vote.

The RonPaulistas are legion! And spamming!

I told dad to disregard all online "polls".


TOO funny.

98 Beagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:18:51pm

#86 MandyManners

Or at least not reward them with nuclear power and other goodies like France.

99 Poimanester  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:19:22pm

#93

Steve,

How much you want for that bridge?

100 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:19:31pm

Earlier today it was 9, then 20, now it's 50: Over 50 killed in southern Philippines fighting

MANILA (Reuters) - Philippine troops shelled Muslim rebel positions and raked them with helicopter fire overnight on the southern island of Jolo after a day of intense fighting in which at least 54 people, including 26 troops, were killed.

The fighting which broke out on Thursday morning is the heaviest in the volatile Philippine south for almost three years, but the military said it suspended operations at daybreak on Friday following a request from the provincial governor.

"We got a call from Governor Abdusakur Tan to suspend operations because of the Muslim holiday," said Major-General Ruben Rafael, the local military commander. "We have agreed."

101 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:19:51pm

Sandman's calling.

102 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:19:57pm

re: #92 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #84 Highrise

Highrise, I love the frogs, can't wait for that first rainy night when the tree frogs burst into song. Amazing how much noise a tiny little (less than a inch long) frog can make.


Well 10 frogs..ok...1000 plus...not so much.

103 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:20:20pm

re: #101 MandyManners


rest well :)

104 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:21:03pm

What holiday are the Musselmen celebrating?

105 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:21:38pm

re: #95 Salem

I remember the moose at Yellowstone to be somewhat aggressive. Fortunately, I had a serious telefoto lens on my cam, so I could keep a good distance and still get some great shots. The buffalos were another story, totally unpredictable.

106 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:22:19pm

Well, It's time to say "Goodnight all", I've got to leave early in the morn, on a drive for Chesapeake,Virginia, from Alabama. [long drive]-sigh-... enjoy the Wild animal thread fine folks
....catch you all later...

107 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:23:07pm

re: #49 Beagle

Libya admits torturing nurses...
BBC puts "torture" in scare quotes even though it's the younger Gaddafi admitting they used electricity.

Beagle..how awful. I really want to know what hand our state dept has in their release. I'm a bit angry that they have not come out and pressured and condemned them as much as I'd like to see.

108 Salem  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:23:25pm

re: #95 Salem

Forgot to mention: I was about nine at the time.

Got a picture of a black bear cub in the Lake City (CO) cemetery while visiting my grandfather's grave about ten years ago. Never did see the momma bear.

109 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:23:39pm

re: #102 Highrise

They do get VERY loud. But they are so small and cute, with those little sucker tipped fingers, get them in my fountain and bird bath all the time.

110 unclassifiable  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:24:04pm

yes yes time for the grave yard shift

yabba dabba do

sliding down the brontosaurs' tail

and onto bed

aloha

111 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:26:46pm

re: #109 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #102 Highrise

They do get VERY loud. But they are so small and cute, with those little sucker tipped fingers, get them in my fountain and bird bath all the time.

I'm an animal lover to a normal extent anyway...and I lived near a pond when I was in college. I swear during the spring time there were over 1000 frogs croaking ALL night, I never slept that entire quarter in college. Needless to say, I stayed awake at night contemplating how to kill them without doing it by my hand..like maybe bags of salt :P . I ended up moving it was so bad.

Now with that said, I nearly cried the other night when my daughter 2.5 yrs old started hopping around like a frog saying ribbit ribbit...now that was cute!

112 Beagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:27:43pm

Florida: Padilla Judge Says No to ‘Defensive Jihad’

Jurors in the trial of Jose Padilla and two other men cannot consider whether the men’s actions were justified by Islamic law, a federal judge ruled. The judge, Marcia G. Cooke of Federal District Court, agreed to a request from prosecutors to instruct the jurors that each of the men could be convicted even if they “may have believed that the conduct was religiously, politically or morally required, or that ultimate good would result.” A cornerstone of the defense during the nearly three-month trial has been the idea that Islamic teaching provides for legitimate “defensive jihad.” Mr. Padilla and his co-defendants, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi, are charged with being part of a North American terrorism support cell.


Whew!

Florida not a sharia state this week.

113 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:28:54pm

Even at 1:30am local time (EST) the thread is going to fast for me. Back to lurking around the perimeter.

I love this blog. Reading the comments always gives me a chuckle, gives me insight, renews my faith, and sometimes even teaches me something.

And Ed-of-the-many-names *Songdog waves across the Internet* Don't you ever stop giving us the weather reports! Tell me one other blog that has their own weatherman!

G'nite, all.
Songdog out.

114 Salem  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:28:56pm

re: #105 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #95 Salem

I remember the moose at Yellowstone to be somewhat aggressive. Fortunately, I had a serious telefoto lens on my cam, so I could keep a good distance and still get some great shots. The buffalos were another story, totally unpredictable.

My Dad said at the time that it's a good thing I didn't try to take a picture of the moose when he was so close up because he might have charged me. But this one just came right up to me like "Hey, how ya doin'? You folks having fun at the park? Well, good. Don't forget to visit Old Faithful. Ciao!"

115 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:29:45pm

Cindy Sheehan is a Sissie.

Why is she wasting her time running for an office that makes her only one of 535. She should set her sights a little higher, she should run for president!

Sheehan/Kucinich '08

116 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:30:11pm

re: #82 MrArchieBunker

Yes if we truly believe in innocent till proven guilty..especially in this case with a he said he said eye witness scenerio and not a hard paper trail crime....

why call it a massacre?

Shame on you press...damn you for doing this to our Marines!

117 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:30:51pm

re: #111 Highrise

Maybe I'm weird (hell, I know I'm weird) but I find the tree frogs lull me to sleep. When the first fall rains come I try to keep the bedroom window open so I can hear them.

BTW, met Dianna and Carolina Girl last month at Dianna's house warming in San Jose. As I recall, you're local too.

118 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:33:46pm

re: #117 Dublin(CA)Dude


No you aren't weird, I just doubt you have a pond right outside your window like I did with 1000 frogs haha.

/smiles

Actually, when I lived in the middle of 20 acres with the pond about 1000 feet away with about 100 frogs maybe, I agree completely with you..it is really cool actually.

119 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:34:47pm

I went to a reunion that had fireflies..aren't those one of the most cooliest bugs ever? I think this was in iowa..we don't have them in wa or calif..too bad :( .

120 SgtSongdog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:35:49pm

Hey! I just noticed. . .

I just went over 100 comments!

Do I get a doggie treat. . .

Or a swat with a rolled-up newspaper?

Okay, now I'm really going to bed.

121 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:36:03pm

re: #119 Highrise

Sad isn't it? Fireflies are only to the east of the Rockies. I see them whenever I go back to New Jersey in the summer to visit my mom. Neat insects, kids love them.

122 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:37:54pm

re: #120 SgtSongdog

Hey! I just noticed. . .

I just went over 100 comments!

Do I get a doggie treat. . .

Or a swat with a rolled-up newspaper?

Okay, now I'm really going to bed.

You should know better than to give LGF posters a multiple choice list...some of us would choose the newspaper :P

kidding :) . Nite to you!

123 Beagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:38:10pm

Speaking of sharia...

Mauritania law promises jail for slavery

Human rights campaigners praised the law as a signal that a long-awaited cultural shift might finally be taking hold in Mauritania, where slavery has existed for hundreds of years and is ensconced in traditional proverbs, songs and poems. The new law prohibits many of these as pro-slavery propaganda.


Not to mention fatwas saying slavery is still as Islamic as ever, but AP would never let that slip past their filter. It's a total whitewash of the Islamic foundations of modern slavery.

Nice they reported the event as slavery in Mauritania without mentioning the war in Iraq as a possible cause.

124 Stallion  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:40:41pm

I remember my days serving in Germany under Reagan. We used to run over coyotes by lurching our Mercedes to the left so that the tail swung toward the coyotes, who would then bolt into the street just in time for us to jerk our Mercedes to the right...and the coyotes were just a chalk outline.

/

125 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:41:07pm

re: #115 DesertSage

It's a spat with nancy. They were once so close.........

126 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:41:15pm

re: #124 Stallion

FOTFLMAO

127 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:41:36pm

PIMF
ROTFLMAO

128 NY Nana  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:43:33pm

re: #90 MandyManners

HA! Not at all

Ha...cya later, with virtual Klennex™

G'nite all!

129 MrArchieBunker  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:43:33pm

re: #116 Highrise
Amen highrise, the pinko press and their Arab allies were looking for another My Lai massacre in order to complete the 'Iraq is Vietnam' paradigm. Tim McGirk of Time magazine is the real villain here. He bought a stinking kettle of fish from professional anti-American liars who are very skilled at this sort of thing, and who know they will always have allies in our twisted media. Where is Ernie Pyle when you need him?

130 boocat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:47:07pm

Wish I was back in the Mojave Desert.
One of the books I'm currently reading is Michel Digonnet's Hiking Death Valley: A Guide to its Natural Wonders and Mining Past.

131 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:48:14pm

re: #116 Highrise

Highrise, you can send one of the Marines a message at this [Link: www.justinsharratt.com...] site

132 Dublin(CA)Dude  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:50:01pm

Time to turn in, 5 am comes early.

Later lizards, its been fun, as usual.

133 mondoreb  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:50:26pm

re: #15 MandyManners
Don't be so hard on yourself...batty women in a Wal-Mart line have that same effect on me sometimes.

Sometimes.

re: #19 MandyManners
I think I'll wait for the Hallmark She Wrote marathon on the Murder Channel.

re: #115 DesertSage
If she were President, the struggle between her Love of Impeachment and her Will to Politically Survive would create a terrific BUZZ in her brain.

Actually, maybe a buzz would have done her more good than all of the protesting.

134 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:51:15pm

Highrise

We live in the middle of 151 acres, the pond is about 150' feet south of the house and I'll we've got left after a cropduster hit us on 7/23 is bull and leopard frogs.

135 Racer X  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:51:24pm

Speaking of coyote, this is pretty funny:

Dog on a rope.

Good stuff.

136 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:52:20pm

re: #115 DesertSage

And Thugo could be our First Lady!

137 mondoreb  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:52:48pm

re: #124 Stallion
PRICELESS!
Mad me almost spew my Coke.

138 mondoreb  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:59:02pm

re: #135 Racer X
Wow!
This gets in my Top 3 of the Day for Video Clips.
Excellent!

139 Beddgelert  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:59:26pm

Like most of the reporting from the ME, stringers rule the context and content for 'frugal' (cheap) and lazy reporters who only add words like ~ "pretty" ~ before words like ...awful, ...bad, ...wrong, ...scary, ...much, ...confused, ...tired, ...nasty and so on... they can't read or write English anymore let alone tell the truth. Hell I remember reading the inventive word heighth in the NYT's. They sure have gone into hiding lately though...

Bedd

140 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:59:29pm

The Border Patrol had better leave those coyotes alone!

141 Americain  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:00:44pm

Submitted for Lizardoid analysis-


Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division

Several prior remarks by Obama's pastor have caught the media's attention:

Wright on 9/11: "White America got their wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.

Wright on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway: "Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months."

Wright on Israel: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."

Wright on America: He has used the term "middleclassness" in a derogatory manner; frequently mentions "white arrogance" and the "oppression" of African-Americans today; and has referred to "this racist United States of America."

With role models like this, Obama would make a great Prez!

142 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:01:42pm

I can often hear the call of the Coyote at night... I've seen them a few times in my backyard, and even had one attempt to attack my dog. (a 90 lb Labrador)

Once, I heard an awful noise in the woods behind the house, and out sprang a deer, at least a full year old, with a Coyote on it's back who had a vice like grip on the deer's neck. Another Coyote was attacking from the rear. They downed it and killed it before myself or my neighbors could scare it them off.

Sound like an episode of "Wild Kingdom"? It sure looked like it. Here's the kicker, I live about 50 miles southwest of Boston. Not exactly the high desert.

143 Racer X  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:02:16pm

LOL at this one!

"Coyote's are conservatives" - Ugly plus ugly = Diane Fienstien

144 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:10:54pm

re: #124 Stallion

I remember my days serving in Germany under Reagan. We used to run over coyotes by lurching our Mercedes to the left so that the tail swung toward the coyotes, who would then bolt into the street just in time for us to jerk our Mercedes to the right...and the coyotes were just a chalk outline.

/

Coyotes are not in Europe. Perhaps the Gray Wolf?

145 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:19:20pm

Is this thing on..?

146 Beddgelert  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:19:46pm

hilarious, dog on a rope...though I cringed at the end of Ugly plus Ugly, cant stand to see an animal shot with a high power riffle with a scope, thank god he got away. coyotes are important to keep around for the Eco system, yet I am no farmer and livestock culling by the dog usually happens to the weakest, part of the peril of raising livestock.

147 Racer X  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:21:04pm

88 logged in CB. Just you and me watchin talkin' coyotes.

148 Racer X  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:22:08pm

Yeah I cringed too. But it was damn funny up to that point.

149 Beddgelert  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:23:39pm

sure was...those guys sure have a lot of time on there hands

150 Racer X  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:35:33pm

re: #141 Americain

Shhhh! We're supposed to keep that stuff under wraps until September '08.

151 mondoreb  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:36:17pm

Just one more

152 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:37:47pm

Did Mike C. self ban?

153 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:39:03pm

re: #152 BenZacharia

No.

154 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:40:27pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

I saw a warning, did he jump froggy with Charles after that?

155 NY Nana  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:42:26pm

re: #152 BenZacharia

Nope. He is banned. Check his LGF on this comment.

G'nite for real!

156 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:43:13pm

re: #154 BenZacharia

You could search what Charles said about it. To me, it's not worth the time or effort.

157 Malatrope  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:43:49pm

Ok, OT, but this is an OT thread.

This picture of a "sign" is photoshopped. No doubt. The perspective (and even paint density) is all wrong for a sign seen at this angle.

Question: why? Isn't there enough sympathy going around for these miners?
Why craft such an obvious fake for a pedestrian story like this, CNN?

158 BenZacharia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 11:54:59pm

re: #157 Malatrope

Send it Charles so he can add it to his fauxtography folder.

159 Malatrope  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:00:50am

re: #158 BenZacharia

Done. I presumed he would read the thread, but he's a busy guy. (Not sure he reads all the mail, either!)

160 willtay73  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:03:04am

If you have time, check out this nonsense.

161 pbird  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:08:20am

Ed, its cheap.

162 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:18:34am

re: #155 NY Nana


All I can say is, you won't see a tear from me.

/smiles

163 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:20:15am

re: #152 BenZacharia


Its one of those things...that one pushes the envelope on purpose..yet hopes to never get called out.

I'll leave it at that..hehe.

164 FlyingTigress  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:21:06am
As day turns to night, and the lonesome yell of the coyote echoes over the high desert, here’s an overnight open thread...

I have seen the future, and it is Lancaster!

165 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:21:23am

some people like to test the waters..others like to push the waters..and then play innocent.

it's interesting as an observer to see who is doing what....hehe.

166 squarepeg  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:23:30am

re: #164 FlyingTigress

Tigress, seriously, you're not thinking of moving to Lancaster, are you? It's a hellhole.

167 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:23:59am

Anyone wanna buy Elvis' army fatigue shirt? Bids start at jus5 50 grand!

[Link: cgi.ebay.com...]

168 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:26:31am

re: #165 Highrise

Continuing to give hat tips to that 46 year old arrested adolescent Rich was annoying.

169 Salem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:30:57am

Water is wet. Hat tip--Rayra

170 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:32:08am

You know you get to a point where you realize that all of it and none of it matters. Everyday its really just all the same. The only thing that can change is the perception of the reality.

/nothing

171 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:32:21am

re: #169 Salem

LMAO!

172 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:34:50am

re: #169 Salem

I found them to be not quite as interesting as that.

173 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:35:15am
174 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:36:43am

re: #173 WrathofG-d

before I click, how many megs?
/Dial up

175 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:37:36am

re: #174 BenZacharia

Its a youtube link.

I dunno.

176 Salem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:41:40am

Yeah, Mike never went after me, really, but that frequent channeling of Rayra was pretty daft. You'd think he'd have bigger fish to fry.

177 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:48:46am

re: #176 Salem

Daft? It was straight up rude.

/But your 169 was hilarious.

178 Salem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:52:23am

Ty. Gn!

179 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:54:12am
180 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:56:00am

Yo Mama! Ok, very good. Now, stay calm - breathe-in, breathe-out - squeeze the trigger slowly as you exhale.

But Achmed, your standing....

That looks like Irans newest RPG, the worlds only RPG fitted with a rear-view mirror for the caddie. The Iranian's are really quite savvy in their design & manufacturing techniques. They build the only self-igniting auto and I believe they've just introduced a new passenger jet. Yesterdays Gulf News Daily's PDF version carried a story that Iran's Air Fright from Tehran to Bahrain had to make an emergency landing after the plane catching fire mid-flight. And to think we let the SOB's fly their own planes and enter NY-US airspace so Ahmad could attend UN meetings while hallucinating.

Let'em develop a nuke or two....

Mornin folks, lookin to be another great day in zee zones.

181 markie  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:58:09am

re: #24 DesertSage

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

There are turkeys in San Francisco?

They run San Fransico.

182 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:58:32am

Howdy Carl - how about that samaH Navy...

183 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:59:55am

Can a tired night time lizard say hello?

184 markie  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:00:05am

re: #173 WrathofG-d

That looked disturbingly like R O'D....brrrrrrr

185 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:05:01am

So its still 2am?

186 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:05:45am

... til Dead Thread

187 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:05:53am

4 am

188 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:06:44am

re: #185 RTLM

4:06 edt

189 markie  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:09:21am

It's exactly 7:35. Somewhere.

190 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:10:38am

re: #183 Resistance Girl

Can a tired night time lizard say hello?

Yep - (waves)

191 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:12:21am

Hiya litttleoldlady :)

Could I have a short stack with banana - please

192 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:15:17am

re: #190 RTLM

Don't even need a fruit cup here...night crew saying a last hello the morning gang.

193 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:16:01am

RTLM! :-)

I'm cooking as fast as I can!

/seem to have lost my assistant...

Resistance Girl! :-)

194 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:19:34am

re: #193 littleoldlady

Indeed ;)

195 RTLM  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:24:07am

Here's a Supersized IED. (not graphic)

196 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:25:01am

re: #193 littleoldlady

RTLM! :-)

I'm cooking as fast as I can!

/seem to have lost my assistant...

Resistance Girl! :-)


Black coffee is good enough for me AND I brought my own. :)

197 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:26:22am

re: #196 Resistance Girl

You're drinking coffee and intend to go to sleep?

/how do you do that?

198 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:26:45am

Pulls a chair out (with an ottoman) and brings the lady a fruit cup to the small table I have set by her hand.

199 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:29:06am

re: #198 Resistance Girl

This is good. I intend to have a "needy" day. Starting off great!

:-)

200 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:30:56am

Two fruit cups and a brandy?

201 tuchja  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:32:34am
202 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:32:36am

morning Little Old LAdy

203 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:34:57am

Jewels! :-)

How've you been?

/busy, I bet! :-)

Resistance Girl,

Hold the brandy, please. I'm still in wake-me-up-with-coffee mode...

204 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:45:35am

Here's a real confidence building piece of news coming out of Londonstan, I understand Iran better now - MP

Newark Mp Patrick Mercer says he has learned a lot from a visit to Iran.

He travelled to the country - ostracised over its nuclear programme and alleged links to Iraqi rebels - on behalf of the Conservative Middle East Council.

The council wants to get an "objective view" of what is happening there.
[...]
"It's fairly clear a number of things we're doing in the west are seriously irritating the Iranians," said Mr Mercer.

I'm sure ya'll will enjoy the whole story.

re: #183 Resistance Girl

Can a tired night time lizard say hello?

Hello Resistance Girl .

205 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:46:55am

I like marinated fruit cups...that's why I'm on nights or early mornings.

Your best morning food coming up when you have an appetite.

Keep your feet up. I'll do the running.

206 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:48:47am

re: #205 Resistance Girl

You're too kind!

/I knew that someday, somehow I'd find the upside to being old.

;-)

207 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:51:56am

Foot rub, too?

Anyone who works as hard as you could use one. :)

208 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:53:43am

re: #204 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

'Morning, aboo! :-)

He went with an open mind...so his brains fell out.

"I went with pretty blinkered vision, and whilst I still am in no doubt there are elements who are jolly dodgy, I think I understand the problems a lot better."

...and obviously read all the Harry Potter books before he left.

209 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:54:21am

Heh, missing my mom and thought I'd offer a virtual foot rub.

Wishing I could give her one. :)

210 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:54:25am

re: #207 Resistance Girl

YOU'RE HIRED! :-)

211 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:55:16am

sorry....making dinner here

212 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:56:07am

No one...and I mean no one..

can pass on a good foot rub. :)

213 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:56:10am

Resistance Girl needs a Jewish mother?

How convenient for both of us that meannastyteenager leaves for college in less than 3 weeks!

/oy
//oy oy
///oy oy oy

..."I thought we agreed not to talk about our children."

214 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 1:59:07am

I'm all grown up, need no money and a minimal amount of attention.

Put a food and water bowl outside.

I'm almost a chea pet.

215 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:00:14am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup* is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

*loving made by Resistance Girl
/now go away while I enjoy my foot rub!

216 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:01:19am

re: #214 Resistance Girl

I'm all grown up, need no money and a minimal amount of attention.

Put a food and water bowl outside.

I'm almost a chea pet.

I already have a cat. I'm in pre-missing my daughter mode. You'll do just fine.

GREAT, in fact! :-)

217 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:01:45am

Here's a nice cool cloth for your forehead, too.

They all know where the food is.

Sit down. :)

218 0321  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:02:56am

Crap, I am drinking tonight maybe I should see everyone in the morning?

219 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:04:16am

re: #218 0321

Crap, I am drinking tonight maybe I should see everyone in the morning?

Here's a cool cloth for your forehead, too.

Don't tell my new mom I am having a drink too. Sssh.

220 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:05:29am

Kids.

/sigh

221 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:06:28am

I'm not driving anywhere. It's ok.

222 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:09:24am

"Everything in moderation."

/Cliches 'R Us

223 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:12:54am

Sitting in my kitchen and having a wee nip.

224 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:14:12am

Ah...the tolerance of Islam & those faithful adherents of the Religion of Body Pieces™ shines through: I have never come face to face with death like this: Taslima

'For half an hour death stared at me from close as I locked myself in a room and those men tried to break in and kill me....'
[...]
'I was wondering how they would kill me. Would it be with a knife or a gun! Or would they simply beat me to death.
225 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:15:18am

A "wee nip"? Oh boy! Do I get another Irish daughter?

/better and better!

226 0321  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:15:34am

re: #219 Resistance Girl

Don't tell my new mom I am having a drink too. Sssh.

I won't say anything.

227 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:18:52am

re: #225 littleoldlady

A "wee nip"? Oh boy! Do I get another Irish daughter?

/better and better!

Irish and Jew.

Scary.

228 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:19:25am

Lol - Good morning to you also. Slipped right-by your post, so how are the Flakes© this fine mornin? Might need a bowl, even three, to give the day a real kick-start. ;-)

229 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:20:35am

re: #226 0321

re: #219 Resistance Girl


Don't tell my new mom I am having a drink too. Sssh.

I won't say anything.


I won't tell anyone else about you, either.

230 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:23:28am

Is it safe? May I come in?

231 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:24:31am

re: #230 Fearless Fred

Is it safe? May I come in?

Your name is fearless. :)

232 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:24:35am

re: #230 Fearless Fred

Is it safe? May I come in?

Yes you fascist!

/kidding

233 0321  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:25:48am

re: #229 Resistance Girl

re: #226 0321

re: #219 Resistance Girl


Don't tell my new mom I am having a drink too. Sssh.


I won't say anything.


I won't tell anyone else about you, either.

Well as long as desertsage understands. I will be gone for about 18 months but take care of desertsage and RTLM, would you?

234 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:25:56am

re: #227 Resistance Girl

re: #225 littleoldlady


A "wee nip"? Oh boy! Do I get another Irish daughter?

/better and better!


Irish and Jew.

Scary.

Aha, so you know!

Drink all night - wake up riddled with guilt. ;-)

For aboo, and anyone else who needs them: Urinated Cranky Flakes™

/© Shiplord Kirel

235 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:26:15am

LGF...serving insomniacs around the globe.

236 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:26:50am

You guys kept me up wayy to late last night..it's all your fault..never mine.

/LLL thinking

237 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:27:10am

re: #233 0321

re: #229 Resistance Girl


re: #226 0321

re: #219 Resistance Girl

Don't tell my new mom I am having a drink too. Sssh.

I won't say anything.

I won't tell anyone else about you, either.

Well as long as desertsage understands. I will be gone for about 18 months but take care of desertsage and RTLM, would you?

How do I take care of them? Let me know...

238 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:27:39am

The racists and fascists are here! YAY!

239 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:28:36am

re: #231 Resistance Girl

re: #230 Fearless Fred

Is it safe? May I come in?

Your name is fearless. :)

Can we ... lol ... just play like we didn't see that then?

Hey -- you registered here at LGF on my birthday. What do you think that means?

Good morning.

240 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:29:07am

Moms with attitude...I love it. :)

241 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:31:14am

re: #239 Fearless Fred

I saw nothing. I remember nothing. Not even my registration date. :)

242 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:32:10am

re: #232 Highrise

re: #230 Fearless Fred

Is it safe? May I come in?

Yes you fascist!

/kidding

he he ... should I study my physics texts to review the concept?

Okay, sorry --- that's enough.

243 0321  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:32:41am
How do I take care of them? Let me know...

Desertsage give him a drink, tell him its on me 0321 he will understand. RTLM, I still don't know.

244 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:33:15am

re: #233 0321

Give an addy and if you're going to the sandbox I'll keep in touch with you and look in on anyone you want me to.

245 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:33:56am

re: #241 Resistance Girl

re: #239 Fearless Fred

I saw nothing. I remember nothing. Not even my registration date. :)

You were deep in your cups ... it was a wild party!

246 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:35:17am

/averts eyes.

Some things moms just don't want to know...

247 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:35:32am

re: #238 littleoldlady

stop it ... laughing so hard I can't deal properly w/ my fruit cup ...

248 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:36:38am

Can't give information here. My bad.

If I can get it somehow, I'll be more than happy to take care of anything for you. :)

249 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:38:27am

re: #247 Fearless Fred

re: #238 littleoldlady

stop it ... laughing so hard I can't deal properly w/ my fruit cup ...

Here's a napkin, Fred. Wipe it up.

Don't make mom upset again.

250 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:39:08am

re: #247 Fearless Fred

re: #238 littleoldlady

stop it ... laughing so hard I can't deal properly w/ my fruit cup ...

Well, I can't help it. Most of the people I hang around with are - like me - boring.

You guys have PANACHE!

251 Carridine  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:39:17am

re: #212 Resistance Girl

No one...and I mean no one..
can pass on a good foot rub. :)

I don't know about that...
had a friendly girl-student in college who invited me over for chat and "a foot rub"...

...where, after pleasant chat and chamomile tea, she cheerfully and intensely began on my feet, quite pleasant, but halfway thru my second foot, she shuddered uncontrollably, broke into a sweat, slumped down...

...then looked at me with a strange, guilty face... and excused herself, to 'tidy up'...

/I'll pass on THESE

252 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:39:49am

You missed a spot. Right there.

253 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:40:48am

That was for Fred and the giant mess he made.

I didn't want to have to take care of it in the morning.

254 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:40:49am

(peeking in window before coming in)

Hello everyone!

One fruitcup, please.

/Wha...? No arguments?!?! I even wore my protective gear, just in case!

:D

255 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:42:18am

re: #251 Carridine

Was she epileptic? Or a foot fetish type?

257 jim in virginia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:46:21am

Morning all.
gettinby: You're ugly and your momma dresses you funny.
/do I need to?

258 Carridine  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:46:35am

re: #255 Resistance Girl

I suspect the latter. Heh!

259 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:47:26am

re: #257 jim in virginia

I DO NOT DRESS FUNNY!

LOL

260 Carridine  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:47:46am

re: #255 Resistance Girl

I know petit mal and grand mal seizures... hers was neither.

/but it WAS a good rub...

261 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:48:30am

re: #250 littleoldlady

re: #247 Fearless Fred

re: #238 littleoldlady

stop it ... laughing so hard I can't deal properly w/ my fruit cup ...

Well, I can't help it. Most of the people I hang around with are - like me - boring.

You guys have PANACHE!

Oh yes indeed ... I'm even wearing an ornamental ploome of feathers this good morning!

262 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:49:21am

re: #258 Carridine

That's not my scene, baby.

/Austin Powers

That made me laugh a little and cringe a little.

263 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:49:48am

re: #259 gettinby

re: #257 jim in virginia

I DO NOT DRESS FUNNY!

LOL

ooops .... removing ploome of feathers ...

264 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:50:27am

re: #257 jim in virginia

Morning all.
gettinby: You're ugly and your momma dresses you funny.
/do I need to?

I dressed myself 24 hours ago and I AM dressed funny.

So?

265 0321  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:50:51am

re: #248 Resistance Girl

Can't give information here. My bad.

If I can get it somehow, I'll be more than happy to take care of anything for you. :)

Just make sure you get Desertsage a drink on me one night. One of the only people who remembers me from way, way, way, back when (he is also a Marine). I have posted more tonight than I ever have, must be the drinks. Good night all.......

266 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:51:38am

re: #265 0321

Good night and STAY SAFE, 0321! :-)

267 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:51:50am

re: #265 0321

Does he have an address or email or something? Or she?

268 zuckerlilly  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:51:55am

Am I to late with this story?

Levy son hits back at ‘slurs’

By Barry Toberman

The son of Lord Levy has issued a spirited riposte to JC columnist Melanie Phillips, who last week accused him of being “dangerous” and “naive” for supporting engagement with

Hamas as part of a peace strategy.

In an exclusive article, Daniel Levy — a former adviser in the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office who has been tipped to advise Middle East envoy Tony Blair — makes a considered argument for his position.

He points out that, having lived abroad for 15 years, “the name Melanie Phillips is unfamiliar to me”, and that his response addresses “substance, rather than ugly personal slurs”.

He stresses that he and like-minded Israeli leaders are neither “Hamas enthusiasts nor sympathisers”, adding: “It is worth trying to reach an accommodation with mainstream Islamists, including Hamas and the Muslim Brothers, who are in their own struggle with al-Qaeda and reject the latter’s nihilism”.

For any arrangement to have broad legitimacy, he says, “Hamas should be brought inside the proverbial tent”.

269 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:52:52am

re: #254 gettinby

(peeking in window before coming in)

Hello everyone!

One fruitcup, please.

/Wha...? No arguments?!?! I even wore my protective gear, just in case!

:D

No trolls available today from rentatroll.com website. They send their condolences to LGF for letting us down. They did tell me they were upping their rates because they would have a hard time besting last nights episode.

Off to bed..have a good one :) .

270 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:53:47am

Did I just come up with a business venture? Rentatroll?

/nahhh

back to bed...

271 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:53:58am

re: #253 Resistance Girl

That was for Fred and the giant mess he made.

I didn't want to have to take care of it in the morning.

Now even my dog has had an elegant sufficiency.

272 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:55:16am

re: #252 Resistance Girl

You missed a spot. Right there.

hm ... thanks mom.

he

273 Highrise  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:55:18am

I had to look because I got all curious..they seriously have a rentatroll website.

[Link: www.rentatroll.com...]

I always think of these things last :( .

274 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:57:07am

re: #273 Highrise

Too funny!

275 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:57:40am

re: #272 Fearless Fred

re: #252 Resistance Girl


You missed a spot. Right there.

hm ... thanks mom.

he

Someone has to take care of these things and it doesn't always have to be me.

(See, I am a mom! But a nice one.)

276 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:58:12am

re: #265 0321

'nite

277 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:59:15am

Just when chores start, Fred disappears.

278 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:59:39am

OK..I'll stop. :)

279 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:59:41am

re: #270 Highrise

Did I just come up with a business venture? Rentatroll?

/nahhh

back to bed...

that's too funny!

280 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:01:14am

re: #277 Resistance Girl

Just when chores start, Fred disappears.

it is 0321 who is disappearing .... calm yourself.

281 Carridine  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:01:15am
For any arrangement to have broad legitimacy, he says, “Hamas should be brought inside the proverbial tent”.

And, Mr Levy, if you think Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood WANT to anything other than DESTROY & REPLACE your 'proverbial tent' with mullah-driven Shari'a Law, then you are naive, no matter how long you've lived overseas!

Melanie was right!

282 infidel4ever  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:02:25am

Good morning everyone!

Here something that gives a whole new meaning to: "flying while muslim" :

[Link: harryzzz.blogspot.com...]

283 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:02:54am

I was gonna have a Muslim free night.

Damn them and the camels they rode in on.

284 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:03:52am

re: #275 Resistance Girl

re: #272 Fearless Fred

re: #252 Resistance Girl


You missed a spot. Right there.


hm ... thanks mom.he

Someone has to take care of these things and it doesn't always have to be me.

(See, I am a mom! But a nice one.)

The sailors say "Brandy, you're a fine girl" (you're a fine girl)

285 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:04:38am

re: #284 Fearless Fred

What a good wife you would be...

286 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:04:48am

No parachute for you!

/no raisins, either.

287 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:06:33am

re: #286 littleoldlady

Me?

Gets ready to run into room and slam the door.

Heh..you said you were beginning to miss ms.teen drama mama :)

288 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:08:34am

Sorry! That was for re: #282 infidel4ever

289 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:09:09am

re: #288 littleoldlady

Keeping you real, Mom. :)

290 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:09:25am

Goodnight/morning Highrise and 0321.

Highrise - you could start a Renta2ndHandTroll business?

re: #263 Fearless Fred

No, no! I love ploomes. They go well with my Friday pajamas. ;)

Some good news...

Charges dropped against 2 Marines in Haditha case

291 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:12:26am

The clock says it's 3:15.

This is the insomniacs decision point.

Try to sleep (pointless) or stay up?

292 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:13:47am

re: #289 Resistance Girl

Awake would be good, too. Also if you could send a little energy this way...

/sigh

Real.Life.Intrudes.

Good day, ALL!™

Any requests or complaints will be handled by my *new* daughter Resistance Girl.

BE NICE TO HER OR I'M COMING AFTER YOU!

293 infidel4ever  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:16:02am

re: #286 littleoldlady

No parachute for you!

/no raisins, either.

I don't think he'll need any fruitcup either! Hehehe.

I'll have some though. Thanks, littleoldlady!

294 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:16:22am

Good-day to you littleoldlady!

As always, thanks for the fruitcup.

/you take such good care of we lizards.

295 Resistance Girl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:18:23am

Energy, good thoughts, your favorite song playing in the background and may your children be GOOD to you tomorrow, Lady. Blessings on you.

I'm going to try and sleep now.

Nite all.

296 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:19:54am

re: #282 infidel4ever

Good morning everyone!

Here something that gives a whole new meaning to: "flying while muslim" :

[Link: harryzzz.blogspot.com...]

He ... I "can't be that sad either".

297 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:22:55am

Is it just me who shudders with worry for them when these fine folks just do their job?

U.S.Border Patrol Agent Kills Man

A Border Patrol agent shot and killed a suspected smuggler at a fence that separates the U.S. and Mexico after the agent felt threatened by the man, authorities said Thursday.

That 'headline' was written poorly, imho.

And, of course, Mexico is complaining.

Mexico criticized what it described as an "excessive use of force" against immigrants and demanded an investigation.

298 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:23:04am

Now this is not only smart, it's brilliant in that it could also be the kick-off point in tearing-down this beast that's become our MSM:

Republicans will retain the White House in 2008 only if they copy conservative Nicolas Sarkozy's victory strategy in France — circumventing the traditional media, running as agents of bold change and cornering Democrats{ed: the MSM} as protectors of the status quo.

Gingrich to GOP: Follow France - I wish he/the editors would have been a tad-bit clearer. The thought of following Fwance is absolutely terrifying..to say nothing of its being suicidal.

Later all.

299 infidel4ever  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:24:36am

re: #296 Fearless Fred

Another one bites the dust...

300 zuckerlilly  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:25:33am

Karl Rove, neo-cons, Powell.....

Book Reveals Details of Iran’s Diplomatic Outreach to Israel

In “Treacherous Alliance,” Trita Parsi, an adjunct professor at John Hopkins University and president of the National Iranian American Council, contends that shortly after Iran proposed a “grand bargain” to the United States four years ago, Tehran made a similar offer to Israel during an academic meeting in Athens.

The terms of Iran’s offer to the United States — which included stabilizing Iraq, curbing support for Hezbollah and Hamas, and addressing concerns over its nuclear program, in exchange for an end to sanctions against Iran and the disbanding of an anti-Iranian militant group — have been known for some time. But as Washington and Tehran now hold official talks for the first time in more than a quarter-century, the book’s revelation of alleged Iranian outreach to Israel opens a revealing window on the last serious attempt at diplomatic reconciliation with the Islamic Republic.

During a May 2003 conference in Athens attended by several prominent Israeli analysts and ex-officials, Mohsen Rezai, a former commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, presented what Parsi describes as a bold strategic shift to a group of Israelis. Rezai’s proposal at the conference, which is organized annually by the Greek Foreign Ministry and the University of California, Los Angeles, entailed a more moderate Iranian stance on the Palestinian issue in exchange for Israel dropping its opposition to rapprochement between Washington and Tehran.

Parsi quotes an anonymous senior Israeli analyst as saying that the Iranian message had been consistently relayed to Israelis at the time, and as such appeared to reflect official policy. Parsi told the Forward that the analyst was Zeev Schiff, the recently deceased senior military correspondent for the Israeli daily Ha’aretz.

Parsi’s version of events, however, was disputed by a senior Israeli who attended the session but refused to be identified in keeping with the meeting’s off-the-record protocol. The Israeli stressed that Rezai’s pitch focused only on finding a modus vivendi on Iraq with the United States and did not touch upon the Israeli-Palestinian issue.

(...)

301 anat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:27:16am

Meanwhile,

The mayor of Brussels this morning rejected an application for a peaceful demonstration in Brussels, organized by a group called Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE), and symbolically scheduled for 9/11.

The mayor gave his reason as security, despite the fact that the Brussels police had already given their OK. The mayor is a socialist, and his constituency depends much on Brussels Muslims. See the site of the Danish branch of SIOE, with further links to sister groups in England, Germany, Italy, France and others.

302 Fearless Fred  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:30:25am

re: #293 infidel4ever

re: #286 littleoldlady

No parachute for you!

/no raisins, either.

I don't think he'll need any fruitcup either! Hehehe.

I'll have some though. Thanks, littleoldlady!

But who is "he"? .... I'm mixed up.

303 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:39:42am

Good afternoon lizardim!

I asked about hosting for my presentation. I managed to make do with a Geocities account, which unfortunately is limited to 4 megs per hour (it's unavailable right now because I exceeded my bandwidth by downloading my files as a test). TANSTAAFL.

The presentation, "Anti-Zionism is a form of anti-Semitism", is there in three formats, for a total of over 6 MB, so you won't be able to download them all. I recommend the PDF, because it's the smallest and failsafe, though without the transition effects.

Save this link for later, when the site is available again:

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

304 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:43:03am

Shiite Pilgrims Mark Saint's Day

BAGHDAD - Tens of thousands of Shiite pilgrims converged on a golden-domed shrine in northern Baghdad, some beating their heads and chests with their hands and others dancing in a circle to honor an eighth century saint known for his ability to hide his anger.

(bolding is mine)

Now why does this make me laugh and cry at the same time!?!

305 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:50:54am

re: #304 gettinby

This is on the same vein as, "Stop calling Islam a violent religion or we'll kill you!" There is no one who, having acquired the habit of reading the news from the Muslim world, can end up with his irony meter intact.

306 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:57:07am

re: #305 ZionistYoungster

irony meter

Should probably buy several to have as backups, because mine keep melting down everytime I read or see things like this.

/plus more headache medicine.

307 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:58:24am

Off to work.

Great day to all.

308 jim in virginia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:58:32am

The Baghdad Fabulist
Krauthammer does lit crit on Beauchamp and TNR

the New Republic seems not to have understood how the Kuwait "detail" undermines everything. After all, what made the purported story interesting enough to publish? Why did the New Republic run it?
Because it fits perfectly into the most virulent narrative of the antiwar left.
We already knew from all of America's armed conflicts what war can make men do. The only thing we learn from Scott Thomas Beauchamp is what literary ambition can make men say.
309 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:05:34am
310 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:23:18am
the lonesome yell of the coyote

I found some of their den's.

311 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:26:04am
ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America.
What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?

A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.

It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.

Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.

Most Americans today believe Iraq was a mistake. Why?

Not because Americans are "anti-war."

Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don't have the patience for a long slog. We've been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.

That's not the American way.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

312 JohnConnor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:27:03am

#301 anat

Thanks for posting about the 9/11 rally banned by Brussels' own Red Ken-type socialist mayor. 20,000 concerned citizens from across the EU were expected to protest the Islamisation of Europe, and the rally's suppression (because it might offend muslims and make them violent!) dramatically proves the seriousness of the problem.

This decision has enormous implications for free speech issues in Europe and the counterjihad movement in particular. Future historians may look back at this as a turning point: when you deny people the right to peaceful protest you inevitably put them on the road to more direct confrontation.

I can't believe that Charles has been ignoring this important story. Fortunately other bloggers like Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna -
[Link: www.gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...] - are on the case.

313 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:29:04am

re: #311 storagemanager

Mornin' All

I saw that this morning and was wondering if any Lizards had commented on it. It's a sort of weird piece, and I'm not sure I agree with a good number of his generalizations, but I was curious what people made of it --

What did you think?

314 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:32:10am

re: #313 lucius septimius

re: #311 storagemanager

Mornin' All

I saw that this morning and was wondering if any Lizards had commented on it. It's a sort of weird piece, and I'm not sure I agree with a good number of his generalizations, but I was curious what people made of it --

What did you think?

He is wrong....when they hit us again....it will be big...no time to unite....we wasted that time.

315 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:34:57am
Visiting North Korean Foreign Trade Minister Rim Kyo'ng conferred on Thursday with First Vice-President Parviz Davoudi on expansion of mutual relations and on major global developments.


According to the Public Relations Department and Press Bureau of the Presidential Office, at the meeting Davoudi said volume of trade exchange between the two countries could play a key role in promoting bilateral ties.

Commerce, trade, industry, technological know-how, scientific activities and implementation of joint projects are among suitable grounds for broadening mutual ties, he said.

The oppressed nations would someday get rid of tyrannical powers, he said, adding that the Iranian nation and its government by adopting logical stands and through resistance have brought the global arrogance to its knees.

The North Korean minister, for his part, highlighted Iran's development and success in various fields under leadership of its leader and its president and said North Korea is determined to consolidate ties with Iran.

There are ample untapped grounds for expansion of mutual ties and North Korea is to take advantage of Iran's valuable experiences and achievements in various sectors, he said.


I guess President Bush knew of what he spoke. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

316 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:36:57am

re: #314 storagemanager

Agreed --

I found his comment that "Bush I did everything right, Bush II did everything wrong" absurd. Daddy left Saddam in power -- obviously the author thought the subsequent purges and massacres were "right."

Quiet around here this morning ... how are you feeling?

317 born again republican  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:38:27am
America likes wars shorter than the World Series.
Americans are impatient.

This author proves his own point. He is impatient with the war Americans are having with each other right now and is willing to do have something drastic happen to quickly change this war and shorten it.

318 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:38:27am

re: #268 zuckerlilly

Am I to late with this story?

Levy son hits back at ‘slurs’

By Barry Toberman

The
son of Lord Levy has issued a spirited riposte to JC columnist Melanie
Phillips, who last week accused him of being “dangerous” and “naive”
for supporting engagement with

Hamas as part of a peace strategy.

In
an exclusive article, Daniel Levy — a former adviser in the Israeli
Prime Minister’s Office who has been tipped to advise Middle East envoy
Tony Blair — makes a considered argument for his position.

He
points out that, having lived abroad for 15 years, “the name Melanie
Phillips is unfamiliar to me”, and that his response addresses
“substance, rather than ugly personal slurs”.

He stresses that he
and like-minded Israeli leaders are neither “Hamas enthusiasts nor
sympathisers”, adding: “It is worth trying to reach an accommodation
with mainstream Islamists, including Hamas and the Muslim Brothers, who
are in their own struggle with al-Qaeda and reject the latter’s
nihilism”.

For any arrangement to have broad legitimacy, he says, “Hamas should be brought inside the proverbial tent”.

I never realized he was Lord Levy's son.

Daniel Levy.

319 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:38:29am

re: #316 lucius septimius

re: #314 storagemanager

Agreed --

I found his comment that "Bush I did everything right, Bush II did everything wrong" absurd. Daddy left Saddam in power -- obviously the author thought the subsequent purges and massacres were "right."

Quiet around here this morning ... how are you feeling?

I agree with you. I think Bush I was deeper in bed with the oil people than II. I know alot of people at that time (including myself) who were pissed off we didn't proceed further with the war.

320 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:42:31am

re: #316 lucius septimius

Better....The Doc called....COPD is getting bad....but no cancer....happy about that.

321 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:45:44am
Philippines: 'Over 50 killed' in clashes between military and Islamic militants

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

322 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:46:36am

re: #315 storagemanager

Good morning, as usual you're chock-full-of links today...

I'm guessing the Iranians aren't importing kimchi from North Korea. IT is well known that the Iranians got their missile technology from NoKo, & it is possible they would buy either plutonium or enriched uranium from them too. So while the West thinks they're still a couple years from finishing the bomb... they take the short cut and have a couple ready next month. Far fetched? Maybe... but possible and given the character of the people involved, probable.

323 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:47:32am
In Jewish folklore, there is a city called Chelm, where the "Wise Men" who run the town are extremely stupid and illogical. Whatever would make sense, they do the exact opposite.

It appears that Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's ancestors hail from the mythical city and descended from "The Wise Men of Chelm." His logic sounds a lot like John Kerry's "I voted for it before I voted against it
He's saying that Israel must have a missile defense system in place to protect is from Palestinian rocket fire before Israel can give away to its enemies the strategically important so-called "West Bank." That's like saying, "We need chemotherapy on our stomach first to prepare for the cancer we'll get tomorrow by cutting off our legs." It simply makes no sense. He's basically admitting that he knows that the rocket fire Israel is getting from Gaza will continue and will probably happen from the "peaceful," favored Fatah terrorists in the "West Bank," too.

So, to solve the problem, first let's develop a system to shoot down the rockets, then let's give them the base from which to shoot the rockets at us, then let's try to shoot the rockets down and hope we succeed in saving innocent lives targeted by terrorists. It's absurd

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

324 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:47:41am

re: #305 ZionistYoungster

re: #304 gettinby

This is on the same vein as, "Stop calling Islam a violent religion or we'll kill you!" There is no one who, having acquired the habit of reading the news from the Muslim world, can end up with his irony meter intact.

"Stop calling Jews comedians or we'll make you die laughing!"

BTW, wasn't the irony meter a Jewish invention?

325 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:47:56am
326 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:47:56am

Good morning, Lizards.

327 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:48:58am

re: #319 baconeatingkaffir

Exactly -- most of the people I talk to who make the "Bush I was right" case are either ignorant or moonbatish. Bring up the cash for suicide bombers, massacres of Shiites, attacks on the Kurds, etc. and you get the deer in the headlights look.

As for the war thing, this idea that wars are supposed to be short is a relatively recent, and erroneous view.

Textbook: The Civil War lasted four years.
Reality: No, you had about three years of shooting before 1861 in Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, and a few other places, and then a decade of Reconstruction (military occupation) afterwards.

Textbook: World War I ended on the Eleventh hour of the Eleventh day of the Eleventh month in 1918.
Reality: Tell that to the Poles, the Greeks, the Turks, the Armenians, the Kurds, the Ukrainians, the Hungarians and everyone else east of the Weser. Eastern Europe, the Balkans and Anatolia were as effed as you can get until at least 1923.

Textbook: World War II began in 1939.
Reality: Only if you forget the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1931. Plus there's a good argument that the Chinese Revolution and the Korean War should be considered part of the conflict in Asia. So shooting continues unabated until 1953, just in time for trouble to start in Indo China, etc.

Reality tells us that wars are not "short" and "decisive" but essentially endemic and largely continuous. What we now call "wars" are what historians writing about events centuries ago would call "campaigns."

328 Thanos  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:49:26am

re: #41 MandyManners

re: #32 Dublin(CA)Dude

What about the MOOSE at Eielson AFB?


Did someone say Moose?

329 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:49:49am

re: #320 storagemanager

Glad to hear about the "no," but unsure what the COPD is ..

330 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:50:15am

re: #326 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, gotc!

331 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:50:17am

re: #325 MandyManners

Wake-up!

Love this part!

332 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:50:31am

re: #327 lucius septimius

Do you think that sometime in the future the first and second world wars will be somehow run together my the "historians of tomorrow". My favorite was always "The civil war was about slavery". ahahaha.

333 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:50:48am

re: #325 MandyManners

re: #326 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning ladies! And how are both of you this fine hot sweaty steamy morning. Going up to 100 here again today.

334 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:51:19am

re: #322 Kenneth


TEHRAN -- Iran and North Korea Wednesday agreed to step up cooperation in the energy sector, as the reclusive Asian state's trade minister paid a visit to the fellow arch-foe of the US.

"Both nations can cooperate in the fields of exploration, production, and other fields of the energy sector," Iranian oil minister Kazem Vaziri Hamaneh said after the meeting with North Korean foreign trade minister Rim Kyong Man.

The oil ministry's Shana news agency said the North Korean minister said Pyongyang wanted an expansion of cooperation in energy and also to swap refined petrol with crude oil from OPEC's number two producer.



[Link: www.metimes.com...]

335 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:51:53am

We've had a shortage of rain. So, now we have no water until the evening. I'm glad I'm not in Ankara. Peple there are having to truck water in. Istanbul has 90 days of water left. I really hope we get more rain soon.

336 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:52:04am

re: #328 Thanos

Oh, dear me. That poor moose!

337 HR Guy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:52:35am

re: #331 luzbone

Hey, Luzbone, hope you're doing better today! Good to see you. :)

338 infidel4ever  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:52:38am

Re-posted from an earlier, now dead, thread

According to a recent poll:

19% of the Dutch want the Koran banned, nearly 75% is against it.
31% thinks that Wilders should not have written his letter (no mention of the other 69%)
29% thinks Wilders should be prosecuted for writing the letter (no mention of the other 71%)
68% thinks there is not enough open discussion about Islam in this country
51% sees Islam as a threat, 13 % sees Islam as an enrichment for our culture

Meanwhile the leader of the leftist party PvdA has said he does not think the way his party member Ehsan Jami (the one who was beaten up) points out the wrongs within Islam is effective. "The PvdA will not support a committee that thinks it can reach its goal by insulting and hurting people because of their religion".

In other words, they are dropping Jami like a hot potato so as not to lose their Muslim voter base. I wonder if he will leave the party and where he will go. Wilders' party maybe?

Introduction of hate crime laws?

In another development the CDA (Christian-Democrats) and the PvdA (Socialist Party) want harsher punishments to stop crimes against gays, ostensibly to combat discrimination. Sound familiar? Yes, they are trying to create laws against HATE CRIMES! Such a noble goal! And we all know who will take these laws and use them for their own ends, don't we?

Just imagine. Start with beating up gays and end up by getting your socialist buddies and the useful idiots in this country to make laws that will enable Muslims to achieve super-protected status.

339 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:53:36am

re: #338 infidel4ever


Yeah, but how many of the voters had toked before taking the poll? Gotta love a country where the crime rate is so low because almost everything is legal. :)

340 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:53:56am

re: #329 lucius septimius

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is a term referring to two lung diseases, chronic bronchitis and emphysema, that are characterized by obstruction to airflow that interferes with normal breathing. Both of these conditions frequently co-exist, hence physicians prefer the term COPD. It does not include other obstructive diseases such as asthma.

[Link: www.lungusa.org...]

341 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:54:37am

re: #331 luzbone

Hugh Laurie rocks!

342 HR Guy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:55:12am

re: #333 lucius septimius

re: #325 MandyManners

re: #326 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning ladies! And how are both of you this fine hot sweaty steamy morning. Going up to 100 here again today.

In addition to possibly being kin, we must live within spittin' distance of each other. We hit 102 here yesterday...looking at about the same today. I had a free round of golf on tap for yesterday up at the Walker Course at Clemson. I never turn down free golf!

343 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:55:38am

Wesley Morgan is a young college student from Princeton who has embedded with a Cavalry unit in Iraq to write for the Daily Princetonian. He is a feature "guest blogger" at THe 4th Rail.

Go now and read his dispatch. It's detailed, accurate and balanced. He describes well the successes and challenges. Wow. Somebody should tell the MSM how to do that!

Task Force Warhorse

344 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:55:57am

re: #333 lucius septimius

I'm out of the bed.

345 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:57:21am
346 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:58:19am

re: #337 HR Guy

Thanks. kinda sorta better.

347 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:58:50am

re: #333 lucius septimius

Yuck! (not you, the weather you describe!)

We've had lots of rain for the past few days with associated mugginess, but no really high temperatures.

storage manager

The article you cite refers to Chelm. I'm the coach for my school's forensics (public speaking, not dissecting bodies) team. A few years ago, one of my students competed with one of the Chelm stories.

Here's the REALLY cool thing: students in my District are proud to display their faith, and they show respect to those of other or even no faith. Before a competition, the kids like to get into a circle, hold hands, and pray before competitions (I have NOTHING to do with this; I join the cirlce after it's organized; the kids who don't want to join in can sit at the table). Anyway, each student is welcome to speak. The one who did the Chelm story was Jewish, and he offered a prayer in Hebrew. One of the students was Hindu; she offered a prayer in her faith.

My students showed more real tolerance and mututal respect than most moonbats I've encountered.

348 WeaselZipper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:59:54am
349 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:59:57am

re: #332 baconeatingkaffir

re: #327 lucius septimius

Do you think that sometime in the future the first and second world wars will be somehow run together my the "historians of tomorrow". My favorite was always "The civil war was about slavery". ahahaha.

There are already a couple of historians who've been pushing to put WWI and WWII together as "The Thirty Years' War of the Twentieth Century." Makes a great deal of sense.

Good book on the German side of the equation is Fritz Fischer's Germany's Aims in the First World War -- the original German title was better "Griff nach der Weltmacht." Basically argued that Hitler's war aims (leaving aside the Jewish question) were essentially a warmed-over (and not as well thought through) version of the German plan in the first world war. Needless to say, the book pissed a lot of people off, especially because it implied that the EU was basically the same idea.

There are also those (myself among them) who would see the American Civil War, the Mexican War, the Revolution of 1848, the Italian Wars of Unification (1859-73), and the German Wars of Unification (1866-72), as part of a larger phenomenon of "Wars of National Unification." There are interesting interconnections between the various conflicts. The US Congress actually passed a resolution in support of the Hungarian secession from the Austrian Empire in 1849/50, and there were speeches calling for armed intervention.


Oops ... I'm lecturing again. This is what happens when you're out of the classroom too long.

350 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:00:34am

re: #341 MandyManners

re: #331 luzbone

Hugh Laurie rocks!

He is an awesome talent.

351 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:00:52am

Animal Planet has this fascinating show. It's just a camera recording dawn/early morning on a farm. Amazing.

Fox has the story I linked to last night about the dipshit suing that florist for sending the bill of a husband's flowers to his mistress. Guess what, jerkwad? Your wife was gonna' divorce you anyway. She had your cellphone information.

352 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:01:12am

re: #349 lucius septimius

I heard that. When do you think people will say that the war on terrorism began? 1948 with the founding of Israel? 1979 with the Iranian revolution?

353 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:01:36am

re: #336 MandyManners

At least the hung one survived, but I sure wouldn't want to have been one of the guys cutting it down.

354 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:01:38am

re: #350 luzbone

I really miss Bertie.

355 HR Guy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:01:44am

re: #311 storagemanager

ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America.
What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?
A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.

It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their
.
.
.
That's not the American way.


[Link: www.philly.com...]

I don't have time to read the article, so I am commenting only on the excerpt.

Speculation like this is easy when it's only theory. After the fact it sounds utterly abhorrent. Consider someone saying "9/11 was really good for America".

Times of trial do bring people closer. Who wants to offer up his/her family so that the nation can come together?

356 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:02:13am

re: #348 WeaselZipper

I just copied that link to paste here...
ya beat me again ya wascally Weasel.

357 whatfur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:02:47am

A bit slow...

but as I started to read... there was mention of a "weenie roast" and it
reminded me of what may be a common quip although it was not common to me when I saw in used in a Mike Adams article...

it went something like...so and so was "as nervous as a blind lesbian at
a weenie roast".

A howlin good morning. (and I prefer the howl of a couple dozen sled dogs)

358 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:03:13am

Who half-Rogered the thread?

359 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:03:40am

Good Morning Lizards.

I keep getting asked about what is going on in the financial markets lately and what does this all mean. I tried several times yesterday to post about this but I think the hamsters were acting up so it never went through. As briefly as I can make it, this is the situation:

Over the previous last several years, some lending institutions and mortgage comapnies made a lot of questionable loans to shaky borrowers while interest rates were very low. These companies would then either resell the loans to other investors, or package them up and sell shares in them to the public. All that seemed well and good, until interest rates started creeping up. Now, many of those loans are failing. A large mortgage company declared bankruptcy last week as a result.

So now, there is a move in the market for people to dump their holdings in these types of investments. The fly in the ointment is these investment companies are not sure what the underlying loans and morgages are worth anymore, so they do not know at the moment how to price the shares. This is the equivalent of a "run" on the bank going on in the investment market. That is what they mean when they say there is no liquidity in that market, everyone wants to sell, no one wants to buy becasue they are not sure what the underlying assets are worth at the moment.

That leads to the situation where some investment companies are putting holds on redemption orders so they can have time to figure out what their assets are worth so they can recalculate the value of their shares.

The fact that there are holds on redemptions are leading to some further concern and resulting volatility in the market. You have to understand though, this hold on redemption thing is nothing new, your local bank can do the same thing with any deposit you have that is not in a "demand deposit" account. Also, the financial market intentionally puts these "circuit breakers" in place to stop panic selling from happening. The last thing you need right now is for some computer program to kick in and start dumping stocks.

Here is my take:

1. Look for more volatility in the market over the next few days as people take time to figure out what is going on. Some will panic and sell out of fear. If you are going to sell, make sure you are doing it for a sound buiness reason and not just out of panic. I think the stock market will drop some more as some people head for the sidelines and take their money off the table. But they have to put their money somewhere, and therin lies a profit opportunity. You can do all kinds of things with options right now to protect yourself or even make a nice profit.

2. Unless you had your money in these high risk "subprime" loan investment funds (in which case, you should have known what you were getting into), you probably don't have much to worry about in the long run. Some of those folks in the mortgage investement funds will lose their investments, and I see the market bouncing around for a little while in response.

3. Beware of rumors floating around today and over the weekend of various companies going bankrupt or the Fed doing some emergency move to bail out the market. I guarantee you will hear these rumors going around "the Street".Most of those stories will be false, floated by people trying to manipulate the market to make a short sell position they took work out. I've been hearing all kinds of rumors since I woke up at 4 am central time. I won't repeat the specifics, but suffice it to say they are designed to panic you.

Remember the scene in It's A wonderful Life where the town panics and a scared crowd fills the room at the Bailey Savings and Loan wanting all their money out at once? Well, that's sort of what is going on now. And George Bailey is saying to keep your head and don't panic

360 infidel4ever  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:03:40am

re: #339 baconeatingkaffir

:))

361 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:03:51am

STORAGE

what happened?

362 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:04:47am

re: #352 baconeatingkaffir

When Issac got the blessing that Ishmael wanted.

363 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:05:25am

re: #362 BabbaZee

Even before that.
When Sarah pimped Hagar to Abraham out of unbelief and fear.

364 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:06:12am

re: #352 baconeatingkaffir

1936 when the Mufti and his posse decided to start popping caps and doing the whole gangsta thing.

Hannah Arendt wrote a whole series of essays (never translated into English, though still available in German -- originally written for a German-language paper for refugees in the US) that show the continuity between the prewar and post war struggle against the Arabs, both for Jews and the Western Powers. She also divined the Arabs goals as the recreation of the Caliphate, albeit at that time without the religious overtones.

365 HR Guy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:06:17am

re: #346 luzbone

Glad to hear. I'll keep up my part on your behalf.

Saw your web site & tried to leave you a comment, something less public.

Cya

366 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:06:22am

re: #362 BabbaZee

Forgot about that one Babba. Unfortunately, alot of people neglect ancient history. Heck, I had girls in my US history class (when I was in college 11 years ago) asking me if the second world war or vietnam came first. Gotta love blonde sorority girls.

367 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:06:44am

re: #320 storagemanager


but no cancer

I am so glad to hear that.

368 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:07:17am

re: #359 3 wood

China is the wild card.

369 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:07:48am

re: #354 MandyManners

Agreed -- some of my students who watch "House" had never seen Jeeves and Wooster. I turned them on to it and they started having "Jeeves and Wooster" parties. Very different part, but damn if Hugh Laurie is not a brilliant actor. And he plays all the piano parts himself!

370 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:07:49am

re: #353 lucius septimius

That must've been dangerous.

371 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:08:08am

re: #361 BabbaZee
COPD is getting bad...but no cancer....I am happy with the call.

372 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:08:34am

re: #371 storagemanager

Does that mean medicinal marijuana prescriptions?

373 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:08:36am

re: #320 storagemanager

PTL
and
PTA

374 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:08:37am

re: #366 baconeatingkaffir

re: #362 BabbaZee

Forgot about that one Babba. Unfortunately, alot of people neglect ancient history. Heck, I had girls in my US history class (when I was in college 11 years ago) asking me if the second world war or vietnam came first. Gotta love blonde sorority girls.

They have their uses.

375 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:09:03am

re: #374 lucius septimius

re: #366 baconeatingkaffir


re: #362 BabbaZee

Forgot about that one Babba. Unfortunately, alot of people neglect ancient history. Heck, I had girls in my US history class (when I was in college 11 years ago) asking me if the second world war or vietnam came first. Gotta love blonde sorority girls.


They have their uses.

True. I did love the beer bongs now and then.

376 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:09:15am

re: #371 storagemanager

I saw 320 (finally )
I'm a bit slow today

Thank GOD, good news.
Mazel Tov.

377 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:09:34am

re: #372 baconeatingkaffir

re: #371 storagemanager

Does that mean medicinal marijuana prescriptions?


Not with my lungs....lol

378 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:09:54am

re: #369 lucius septimius

Hugh's aged pretty well.

379 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:11:06am

re: #376 BabbaZee

re: #371 storagemanager

I saw 320 (finally )
I'm a bit slow today

Thank GOD, good news.
Mazel Tov.


Thank you.

380 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:11:10am

That was weird -- I hit "new comments" and my screen went black and nothing happened.

381 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:12:07am

re: #377 storagemanager

Forgot about that one. Sorry! I need to stop smoking again but at this stage i'm not ready for it. I stopped for like 5 years before coming here. It's really a smoker's paradise. There are few no smoking areas here and smokes are cheap (less than $3 a pack .. even cheaper if you buy turkish smokes). I was smoking a pack of marlboro red a day before I quit the first time. Now, I'm at a pack or two of Davidoff lights a week. My wife is a heaver smoker than I. That makes it more difficult.

382 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:12:13am

re: #366 baconeatingkaffir

Yea I know all about it.
Farking people cant even remember 2001.
So called "educated" "sophisticated" people. People that are convinced they are SO SMART
much smarter than us dontcha know
[spit]
But it does not change the facts on the ground.

I don't argue with these people anymore.
You wanna be blind, be blind.
Free will is a bitch, MFers.

383 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:12:33am

re: #365 HR Guy

re: #346 luzbone

Glad to hear. I'll keep up my part on your behalf.

Saw your web site & tried to leave you a comment, something less public.

Cya

Nobody knows who you are if you post.

I am thinking that I am going to have to invent dozens of socklike puppets to get any action in the comments.

Hey! It's August. For the rest of August it's half price to leave a comment!

Save money!

384 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:13:59am

re: #382 BabbaZee

re: #366 baconeatingkaffir

Yea I know all about it.
Farking people cant even remember 2001.
So called "educated" "sophisticated" people. People that are convinced they are SO SMART
much smarter than us dontcha know
[spit]
But it does not change the facts on the ground.

I don't argue with these people anymore.
You wanna be blind, be blind.
Free will is a bitch, MFers.


Like.. did you realize Paul Mccartney was in a band before he went solo? It's like so cool! My favorite in college was "I didn't know there used to be two germanies!" No wonder why the moonbat population is so big. Stupid people abound!
As an ESL teacher, I can definitely tell you that
"STUPIDITY IS UNCOUNTABLE"! hehehe.

385 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:14:36am

Babbazee, do you think that depression is kind of like "Rage vs. Woe"?

386 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:15:15am
Al Qaeda Chatter of Radioactive Attacks in US
DEBKAfile
The threat was picked up by DEBKAfile's monitors from a rush of electronic chatter on al Qaeda sites Thursday, Aug. 8. The al Qaeda communications accuse the Americans of the grave error of failing to take seriously the videotape released by the American al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gaddahn last week. "They will soon realize their mistake when American cities are hit by quality operations," said one message. Another said the attacks would be carried out "by means of trucks loaded with radio-active material against America's biggest city and financial nerve center." A third message mentioned New York, Los Angeles and Miami as targets. It drew the answer: "The attack, with Allah's help, will cause an economic meltdown, many dead, and a financial crisis on a scale that compels the United States to pull its military forces out of many parts of the world, including Iraq, for lack of any other way of cutting down costs." There is also a message which speaks obliquely of the approaching attacks easing the heavy pressure America exerts on countries like Japan, Cuba and Venezuela. DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources and monitors say there is no way of gauging for sure how serious these threats are, how real, or whether they are part of a war of nerves to give the Gaddahn tape extra mileage. But it is important to note that the exchange of messages took place over al Qaeda's internal Internet sites and that they contained the threat of radioactive terror and specific American cities for the first time after a long silence on these subjects.

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

387 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:15:18am

re: #383 luzbone

Po-jama people special
take one home with you
save a dollar today!

388 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:15:25am

re: #385 luzbone

Yeah, but luzbone who would be afraid of "Islamic Woe Boy" ?

389 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:15:27am

Keep it in your pants, dipshit.

A Texas man is suing 1-800-Flowers for $1 million, saying the company is to blame for his pending divorce.

After Leroy Greer's wife filed for divorce in January 2006, he began seeing another woman and sent his new girlfriend a dozen long-stemmed roses. But a few months after the flowers were sent, Greer reconciled with his wife, and she moved back in to his Missouri City home, according to Greer's lawyer, Kennitra Foote.

That was, until his wife received a thank-you note from 1-800-Flowers.

Confused about the purchase, Bernice Greer called the company, and they faxed her the receipt.

"Just wanted to say that I love you and you mean the world to me!" read the greeting from Greer to his girlfriend, whose name and address were included in the receipt for more than $100 in roses.

Bernice Greer promptly moved out again, continued with the divorce and is now asking a court to give her more money because of her husband's now-documented infidelity, according to the lawyer.

Along the bottom of the fax, Greer's wife apparently added her own comment, according to a copy included in the suit. "Be a man!" it began. "If you got caught red handed then don't still lie. Your tmobile has her number so why still lie."

390 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:15:48am

re: #385 luzbone

ROTF

yes... as a matter of fact I do!

391 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:17:08am

re: #384 baconeatingkaffir

[deep sigh]

My people die from lack of knowledge.
~ Somewhere in Hosea, I think in 4

/too ornery to look it up a the moment

392 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:17:15am

re: #384 baconeatingkaffir

Like.. did you realize Paul Mccartney was in a band before he went solo? It's like so cool!

Yeah. Uh. Wings, right?

/end stupid

393 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:17:50am

There is nothing quite like being attacked by a dust-rag with legs, a/k/a a Yorkie. Gotta' run.

394 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:17:59am

re: #392 luzbone

Yeah, and John Lennon was a guy who had a dream and got shot.

395 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:18:00am

So I am going to have a 3 year old
and 1 year old all weekend
and I just quit smoking.

They better behave if they wanna see Monday.

lol

396 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:19:10am

Muslim Gunman Shot Dead in Jerusalem

AFP goes out of their way to portray the Israelis as the bad guys.

Textbook case of shoddy, biased propaganda masquerading as journalism.

397 born again republican  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:19:35am

re: #394 baconeatingkaffir

Like John sang, life if what happens while you're busy making other plans.

398 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:19:44am

re: #368 storagemanager


China is the wild card.

How so? Not challenging, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

399 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:20:24am

re: #397 born again republican

Yeah.. but Yoko Ono is what happens when you've had one too many.

400 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:20:35am

re: #394 baconeatingkaffir

re: #392 luzbone

Yeah, and John Lennon was a guy who had a dream and got shot.

Right. By the CIA, right? Lennon was the Black Baptist Beatle I think.

401 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:21:58am

Making the headlines in the City of Brotherly Love

One woman's solution to Islamic polygamy - shoot the bastard

Is Islamic polygamy now legal in America, I ask?

Will this woman be subject to Sharia beheading?

Will CAIR claim she is just another victim of Islamophobia?

402 anat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:22:06am

re: #352 baconeatingkaffir

I don't know when the war ON Jihadi terrorism began, but the Jihad itself had begun in 1921, with the British appointment of Amin al-Husseini as Mufti of Jerusalem.

403 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:22:07am

re: #393 MandyManners

I call our pup four legs and teeth.

404 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:22:10am

re: #400 luzbone

re: #394 baconeatingkaffir


re: #392 luzbone

Yeah, and John Lennon was a guy who had a dream and got shot.


Right. By the CIA, right? Lennon was the Black Baptist Beatle I think.

Yeah. I loved that SNL skit with Eddie Murphy where he claims to be the "Fifth Beatle"

405 BulgarWheat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:22:19am

#395 BabbaZee

Get a pile of rocks and keep an eye out for the squirrels.

day 3....grumble, grubmble, grumble....

406 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:23:15am

re: #405 BulgarWheat

When will all this death and woe END?

lol, I saw it, that cracked me up

407 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:24:08am

re: #395 BabbaZee

So I am going to have a 3 year old
and 1 year old all weekend
and I just quit smoking.

They better behave if they wanna see Monday

.

They will keep you going so much you won't have time to think about it.

408 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:24:18am

#401

Myra and Jereleigh Morton's 27-year marriage spiraled out of control this year after the former North Philadelphia handyman-turned-millionaire met a young Muslim woman from Morocco on the Internet and married her in concert with Muslim law that allows men to have multiple wives, Montgomery County prosecutors said yesterday

At one point, as the couple's relationship deteriorated, Jereleigh told his American wife, "If you don't like polygamy, get a divorce," according to his Moroccan bride, Zahra Toural.

Instead, Myra allegedly fired two .40-caliber bullets from her husband's Glock semiautomatic handgun into his head early Sunday morning on the eve of his scheduled trip to Morocco, where Toural waited to give Morton the son he yearned for. She was ovulating, investigators were told.

409 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:24:27am

re: #389 MandyManners

"Your tmobile has her number so why still lie."

D'oh!

410 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:24:50am

re: #398 3 wood

re: #368 storagemanager


China is the wild card.

How so? Not challenging, just curious as to your thoughts on this.


They have threated to unload their dollars and flood the market.

411 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:25:55am

re: #409 lucius septimius

re: #389 MandyManners


"Your tmobile has her number so why still lie."

D'oh!

Don't they have prepaid cell lines in the US? A few of my businessmen students have two lines. They claim one is for work and the other is personal. hehehe. Gotta love the Turkish male mentality.

412 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:26:55am

re: #400 luzbone

re: #394 baconeatingkaffir

re: #392 luzbone

Yeah, and John Lennon was a guy who had a dream and got shot.

Right. By the CIA, right? Lennon was the Black Baptist Beatle I think.

No, no no. The "Paul McCarthy" who's there now is the fake one, they guy who after the real Paul died had all the plastic surgery and then went insane and has been killing off all the others. He hasn't gotten Ringo yet because he knows that Ringo has ordered that the secret safe deposit box with the truth and the evidence will be opened if "Paul" kills him.

413 BulgarWheat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:26:59am

#406 BabbaZee

death and woe indeed! Gallows humor is the only thing that I can handle right now.

DEATH TO THE INFIDEL SQUIRRELS!

414 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:27:26am
Judge orders Your Black Muslim Bakery to liquidate

U.S. bankruptcy Judge Edward Jellen said the bakery’s management problems are getting worse, not better, and that Chapter 7 liquidation was the best way for the bakery to repay the IRS, its mortgage company and other creditors.

[Link: www.religionnewsblog.com...]

415 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:27:38am

re: #408 ErislDysnomia

I was actually wondering about how polygamy works out in a society. I saw a picture of a Mormon fundamentalist family - husband, 5 wives, 29 children.

Doesn't polygamy create a shortage of women?

416 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:28:13am

re: #412 lucius septimius

Yeah, and John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Elvis, and Bruce Lee had enough of fame, faked their death and living on a tropical island someplace!

417 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:28:15am
418 BulgarWheat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:28:58am

"Your Black Muslim Bakery to liquidate"

Where the heck am I going to get my Seething Strudels now? How 'about the moslem moonbat muffins?

Guess I'll just have to go to Starbucks, eh?

419 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:29:21am

re: #407 3 wood

I'm not worried about thinking about it
I am worried that I am not my usual
placid, patient self

lol

420 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:29:29am

3 Wood

The mortgage company that you mentioned but did not name, American Home Mortgage, hasn't the first thing to do with the sub-prime market, as they don't/didn't make sub-prime loans.

Sub-prime in and of themselves are not the problem. The dollar amount of the sub-prime loans was. If the loan qualifier had received less money, for a smaller house, they at least had a shot at maintaining their payment schedule. This only applies if they were able to maintain their employment.

/used to have a 4.5% APR, 30 year fixed mortgage *sigh

421 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:29:42am

re: #413 BulgarWheat

DEATH TO THE INFIDEL SQUIRRELS!

/or you could just send 'em flying

422 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:30:32am

re: #411 baconeatingkaffir

That is not a Turkish thing
I know a few men here who do that
Women too

all cheaters

423 BulgarWheat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:31:07am

#421 Killian Bundy

Now that was funny! Karl the Flying Squirrel! Excellent!

424 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:32:02am

re: #412 lucius septimius

I buried Paul

425 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:32:05am

re: #422 BabbaZee

re: #411 baconeatingkaffir

That is not a Turkish thing
I know a few men here who do that
Women too
all cheaters



For this reason, I waited until age 30 to get married. If I can't commit, I aint gonna quit. :) Anyhow, cheating here is accepted amongst the male population. It's only a problem if women do it.

426 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:33:10am

re: #410 storagemanager


They have threated to unload their dollars and flood the market

Understood. Could be, but that won't impact domestic holdings of investments. And it would make our exports very attractive.

China's problem is they would then have to shift the wealth into something else. Their own currency is inflating out of value and the Euro banks will not be able to handle well that kind of pressure.

To me, the key is what will the Federal Reserve do? My guess is they will quietly expand the money supply through open market operations.

427 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:33:11am

re: #413 BulgarWheat

ULULULULULLULULULLULU!

428 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:34:19am

re: #412 lucius septimius

re: #400 luzbone

re: #394 baconeatingkaffir
re: #392 luzbone

Yeah, and John Lennon was a guy who had a dream and got shot.

Right. By the CIA, right? Lennon was the Black Baptist Beatle I think.
No, no no. The "Paul McCarthy" who's there now is the fake one, they guy who after the real Paul died had all the plastic surgery and then went insane and has been killing off all the others. He hasn't gotten Ringo yet because he knows that Ringo has ordered that the secret safe deposit box with the truth and the evidence will be opened if "Paul" kills him.

That was the Paul McCarthy era when all those people in the entertainment industry had to admit they were community oriented. Some killed themselves and many lost their jobs.

Ringo sold his rings and did very well for himself.

It is my firm opinion that, based on scientific facial recognition techniques, it can be proved that Ringo was really a communist.

History is so cool.

429 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:34:25am

Good morning Babba!

Storage,

Who knew the North Koreans were so good at oil filed exploration & developement, and who knew the Iranians were so fond of kimchi?

lucius septimius,

Excellent historical perspective on the real start and finish of wars. Add to that list the false view that the Vietnamese War ended when the US pulled out. In fact, more Vietnamese died in fighting after the US left than during the US involvment. And the same stupid people want to do the same stupid thing in Iraq.

A Canadian "historian", Gwyn Dyer, recently argued that the US should withdraw as soon as possible. Don't worry about a bloodbath, since the insurgency will loose it's incentive to fight, which is the US occupation. He also claimed Mookie al-Sadr is an Iraqi nationalist.

Educated fools are the most dangerous.

430 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:35:43am

re: #412 lucius septimius


The "Paul McCarthy" who's there now is the fake one, they guy who after the real Paul died had all the plastic surgery and then went insane and has been killing off all the others. He hasn't gotten Ringo yet because he knows that Ringo has ordered that the secret safe deposit box with the truth and the evidence will be opened if "Paul" kills him.

LOL. Good impression of a moonbat rave. For a second there I thought I'd popped over to HuffPo.

431 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:35:54am

non-Bible believers only

Re; Plural marriage/polygamy*

What's wrong with it?

*either multi-females or multi-males

432 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:36:35am
433 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:37:00am

Hadn't seen anyone post this yet (Nonic usually beats me to it), Kimberly Strassel's piece this morning: Democratic Dustup
The far left isn't the path to a governing majority.

This was one of my favorite parts:

this newly energized left is directing inordinate firepower on the DLC itself, in a crazed, purist drive to purge any group that would exert a moderating influence on the Democratic Party. New Republic scribe Noam Scheiber let loose a few weeks back in a New York Times hit piece, calling the DLC "radioactive" and "quaint," gloating that its "fading influence was good news for the entire party," and arguing that it should just get lost. Markos Moulitsas, chief flogger-blogger on the Daily Kos, this week slammed the DLC as a group that wants to "blur distinctions with the GOP," and reveling that Democrats had won in 2006 because liberals like himself had "forced" Americans to pick sides.

The real target audience for these pronouncements is the Democratic presidential field, and the threat is clear: Touch the DLC, and you will be (to use a favorite, medieval Kos word) "punished."

If you read that last part aloud with the "Big Boss" voice from "Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace" it sounds a lot better.

Brian Blessed is cool.

434 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:38:17am

re: #424 BabbaZee

Exactly -- what more proof do you want?

Troof! Troof! Troof!

435 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:38:54am

re: #402 anat

1921? I go back further than that, to 622 AD, the year Islam was founded by Mohammad. Jihad has ebbed & flowed since then, but it has never stopped.

436 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:40:29am

re: #435 Kenneth

re: #402 anat

1921? I go back further than that, to 622 AD, the year Islam was founded by Mohammad. Jihad has ebbed & flowed since then, but it has never stopped.

I go back to Cane and Abel.

437 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:40:45am

re: #415 luzbone

Doesn't polygamy create a shortage of women?

You shouldn't make fun of polygamies.

It's not their fault they're short.

438 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:42:20am

re: #437 ErislDysnomia

re: #415 luzbone

Doesn't polygamy create a shortage of women?
You shouldn't make fun of polygamies.

It's not their fault they're short.

That's quite a stunt.

439 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:43:06am

re: #386 storagemanager

Read that... Obvuisly reoprted from Debka, which can be dubious at times... However, with all the videotapes released in short succession and the vitriol from AlQ lately, something like this would not surprise me...

Of course, I still have those feelings something really bad is going to happen...

440 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:43:35am

re: #429 Kenneth

Good morning Babba!

Storage,

Who knew the North Koreans were so good at oil filed exploration & developement, and who knew the Iranians were so fond of kimchi?

lucius septimius,

Excellent historical perspective on the real start and finish of wars. Add to that list the false view that the Vietnamese War ended when the US pulled out. In fact, more Vietnamese died in fighting after the US left than during the US involvment. And the same stupid people want to do the same stupid thing in Iraq.

A Canadian "historian", Gwyn Dyer, recently argued that the US should withdraw as soon as possible. Don't worry about a bloodbath, since the insurgency will loose it's incentive to fight, which is the US occupation. He also claimed Mookie al-Sadr is an Iraqi nationalist.

Educated fools are the most dangerous.

It isn't their education that's the issue -- it's that ultimately what drives them is their emotions. They can't stand the idea of war or violence, but that forces them to close their eyes to reality. Their isolationism is a reflex, projecting their own need to curl up in the fetal position because they can't cope with life onto politics.

All the moonbats I know are emotional basket cases. Or as we were saying yesterday morning, it's all the emo.

441 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:44:04am

I want this thing

Bible & World History Timeline


Figure 2 on the right is a good example of the greater meaning that can be obtained from the whole picture. As the timeline reveals, Confucius lived in the same time period as the biblical figure Daniel. The history sources of these people are so drastically different that a link between them would not otherwise be made. This also builds a closer connection between our Bible history and traditional history.

The World History Timeline organizes abstract pieces of history in such a way that it is easy to trace the lineage of civilizations back to our biblical ancestors. As a result, we experience a closer connection with the Bible.

442 storagemanager  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:44:25am
FBI: CAIR Part of
Muslim Brotherhood Organization
Counterterrorism Blog/The Investigative Project on Terrorism
In testimony Tuesday, FBI Agent Lara Burns reported before the jury in the Holy Land Foundation trial that the Council on American-Islamic Relations was listed as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee, right alongside HLF, the Islamic Association for Palestine, and the United Association for Studies and Research. Agent Burns further testified that CAIR received money from HLF - a claim that Nihad Awad blatantly denied in a congressional testimony in September of 2003. Burns also said that both Omar Ahmed and Nihad Awad, CAIR co-founders who today serve as CAIR’s chairman emeritus and executive director, respectively, were also listed as individual members the Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee in America

[Link: peoplestruthforum.com...]

443 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:45:38am

re: #436 luzbone

you are right

444 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:46:36am

Morning Babba...

Another wet morning down here at the Compound, how about by you on Babba Mountain?

445 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:46:51am

re: #437 ErislDysnomia

re: #415 luzbone

Doesn't polygamy create a shortage of women?

You shouldn't make fun of polygamies.

It's not their fault they're short.

Polygamy: n, i.

1) Having a really great set of gams; generally applied to multipod aliens.

Polygamy: adj.

1) Really gross. "His gangrenous leg was polygamy."
2) Able to play more than one online game at once.
3) Having an unusually strong taste. "Those geese we shot over by the water treatment plant were poly gamy!"

446 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:48:33am

re: #445 lucius septimius

That's good.

447 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:48:53am

Speaking of adultery

Luz ~

Can you verify this for me?

I was told that the original Hebrew word used in the the adultery commandment uses a word that means very specifically:

A woman who sleeps with someone other than her husband.

Is this correct?



Adultery and Idolatry are very closely related things
448 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:49:17am

re: #444 tfc3rid

Noah is coming to pick me up in an hour
lol

449 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:50:24am

re: #448 BabbaZee

My backyard is in great shape if I were growing rice... However, Tomatoes, Zucchini, Cucumber and Beans aren't doing so hot...

450 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:51:24am

re: #431 BenZacharia

Well, for starters, how about "T (time of the month) x D(days) x F(females)?

/sexist male

451 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:51:44am

re: #420 BenZacharia


The mortgage company that you mentioned but did not name, American Home Mortgage, hasn't the first thing to do with the sub-prime market, as they don't/didn't make sub-prime loans.

Well I did not say they were, I just said they were affected as a result. American Home Morgtage was involved in lending to questionable borrowers though.

American Home Mortgage Files For Chapter 11 Amid Turmoil

The nation's 10th-largest mortgage lender last year, whose focus was customers who didn't need subprime loans but didn't have top-notch credit, made its Chapter 11 filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del.

Whether we are talking volume of size, the bottom line is some loans and mortgages have fallen into non-performing status as interest rates have started creeping up. That is the genisis of the matter.

/used to have a 4.5% APR, 30 year fixed mortgage *sigh

Sorry about that. One of the best days of my life was when I paid off my house, early.

452 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:52:08am

Good Morning All and Happy Friday!

Hot and sunny here in Chicago - just the way I like it, too bad work keeps me inside. Our summers are so short, ah well.

{BabbaZee!}

re: #445 lucius septimius

LOL!

453 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:52:33am

re: #447 BabbaZee

Speaking of adultery

Luz ~

Can you verify this for me?

I was told that the original Hebrew word used in the the adultery commandment uses a word that means very specifically:

A woman who sleeps with someone other than her husband.

Is this correct?



Adultery and Idolatry are very closely related things

Yep -- most of the Mesopotamian cults involved temple prostitution and other various fertility cults that involved ritual rogering.

That and child sacrifice.

454 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:53:19am

PROTEST AGAINST THE ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE IS BANNED!

Why? Belgium officials FEAR THE REACTION OF THE ISLAMIC COMMUNITY!
FOOKIN' WOW!

455 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:53:39am

Good Morning all.

456 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:54:08am

Why coudn't we have a protest against the islamization of America? Would CAIR and the moonbats come out in full support (of the religion of peas)?

457 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:54:12am

re: #426 3 wood


If the Chinese flood the market with US dollars, why would the Fed pump out more dollars? Wouldn't that drive inflation? I think the Fed would tighten up the money suppply as much as possible. Hey, 2 armchair economists, 2 opposite opinions. One sure thing, if the Chinese dump US dollars, the US would cut back on Chinese imports. That would in turn hurt the Chinese more than the dollar dump hurt the US.

At this point, should we expect a moonbat to start blathering about the powerfl new Iranian oil bourse?

458 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:54:14am

re: #447 BabbaZee

I'm not sure. I am interested enough to look into it.

All the gender stuff is problematic to me.

I know that in the case of the Sotah (adulterous woman) that the man she was with explodes as well.

459 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:54:16am

Morning Lance...

460 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:54:57am

re: #458 luzbone

re: #447 BabbaZee

I'm not sure. I am interested enough to look into it.

All the gender stuff is problematic to me.

I know that in the case of the Sotah (adulterous woman) that the man she was with explodes as well.

I assume he explodes as in ka-pow.. not in the ron jeremy sense..

461 rin  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:55:00am
462 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:55:03am

re: #454 Eric Cartman's Conscience

PROTEST AGAINST THE ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE IS BANNED!

Why? Belgium officials FEAR THE REACTION OF THE ISLAMIC COMMUNITY!
FOOKIN' WOW!

The problem is most Europeans are so whipped by government they'll obey the order.

Too many folk here would too, but we'd still get some protests.

HEY BELGIANS! GROW A PAIR AND PICK UP YOUR PLACARDS!

(screaming at Belgians, not Lizards, for those who are offended by allcaps)

463 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:55:30am

re: #455 LanceKates

Mornin' Lance.

Keeping mouth shut ...

464 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:56:08am

re: #447 BabbaZee

In Lev 10:20 it's used for a hubby, phonic na-af', can't do no Hebrew no more.

The word appears 26 times, gender is assigned by the translator when they parse it.

465 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:57:24am

re: #462 lucius septimius

re: #454 Eric Cartman's Conscience


PROTEST AGAINST THE ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE IS BANNED!

Why? Belgium officials FEAR THE REACTION OF THE ISLAMIC COMMUNITY!
FOOKIN' WOW!


The problem is most Europeans are so whipped by government they'll obey the order.

Too many folk here would too, but we'd still get some protests.

HEY BELGIANS! GROW A PAIR AND PICK UP YOUR PLACARDS!

(screaming at Belgians, not Lizards, for those who are offended by allcaps)

I visited belgium like 5 years ago to visit a friend of mine who was stationed at NATO HQ. ALot of places in Brussels are placed off limits to troops mainly because of aggressive arabs. While I was there, some German Army troop got stabbed by a moroccan and most ofthe German gus were downtown looking for the perp. When will the Eurabians learn that these islam people are like the borg on star-trek?

466 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:57:29am

later, lizards... play nice.

467 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:58:15am

re: #459 tfc3rid

How's a friday morning going over there?


re: #463 lucius septimius

lol.. what?

468 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:59:35am

re: #452 ChicagoBlue

{CHI BLUE & MUTT TOO!}

469 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:59:48am

#465 BEK

Ha - the Borg.

Or the Araborg.

470 tfc3rid  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:00:10am

re: #467 LanceKates

Wet... More rain... Of course I'm waiting for the subways to be flooded out again since I've gotta get down near the WTC Site to the City Budget Office for a meeting....

471 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:00:24am

re: #458 luzbone

Thanks
let me know what you find when you do look in to it

472 FriarsTale  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:01:07am

hmmm...
not sure if this is a good thang or a bad
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Judge rejects "defensive Jihad" argument

473 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:01:15am

re: #461 rin

global warming - er...not.

Gotta look at the photo on Watt's blog to understand the graph on Malkin's blog.

474 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:02:20am

re: #467 LanceKates

Didn't want to say anything about the status of the thread and your arrival, etc.

Of course in your case it's the Central Time thing.

I miss Central Time -- always made more sense to me.

475 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:02:27am

re: #462 lucius septimius

Those who would protest a muslim 'invasion' of the united states tend to be the same people who respect the law.

Unlike those who protest the enforcement of immigration law... they protest in large numbers, openly bucking longstanding immigration law. Unfortunately, one of the things our current administration is pretty liberal on is immigration.

476 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:02:37am

Remember Charles' recent post about Geert Wilders calling for a ban of the Koran? Well, a Belgian-Muslim rapper had this to say of the politician:

"If I ever meet Wilders, he's mine. I swear to you, I'll take him on. And there are more people who feel the same way. People shouldn't be surprised if a Mohammed C. springs up soon. If someone were to put a bullet in his head, I wouldn't mind."

[Link: www.expatica.com...]

Wilder's is suing! :)

477 apachegunner  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:03:04am

re: #452 ChicagoBlue Ahhhh, remember the mornings on my balcony looking down LSD, with Hollywood beach 29 floors below me, from my condo at Thornedale Beach. How I miss those days and Chicago, the greatest city in the world........

478 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:03:56am

re: #470 tfc3rid

Hope you get there. heh. One major drawback to a city being so covered by impervious surfaces is having to deal with water drainage.... can't soak in though concrete. heh.

479 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:04:17am

re: #465 baconeatingkaffir

It just floors me that these people won't do anything about it. Of course they expect their government to solve all problems, but they don't realize that the entire European voting system is designed to keep a stable division between established parties -- it's all about keeping in power they same socialist status quo.

Of course that's why libs here gush over "proportional representation" and all those other Europoliticofag ideas.

480 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:04:40am

re: #477 apachegunner

re: #452 ChicagoBlue Ahhhh, remember the mornings on my balcony looking down LSD.......

Um...

481 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:04:42am

re: #453 lucius septimius

You got it
This is an interesting and informative document
Of course there are a few coonfused and erroneous conclusions drawn in it IMO
but the info itself is solid.

482 FriarsTale  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:05:10am

re: #454 Eric Cartman's Conscience

PROTEST AGAINST THE ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE IS BANNED!

Why? Belgium officials FEAR THE REACTION OF THE ISLAMIC COMMUNITY!
FOOKIN' WOW!


Maybe the organizers should just call it a
"European Union Support Rally"
(support the EU: kick out the terrorists)

483 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:06:16am

re: #474 lucius septimius

you mean the poly-relationship talk or that it is a dead thread now that I'm officially here? lol

484 hayseed  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:06:25am

Good Morning All...ran into some old drug ads that are really funny.

485 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:06:29am

re: #477 apachegunner

I love Chicago. I would live there if I had enough money to live on North Michigan Avenue and have a boat.

486 Kerfuffle  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:06:36am

re: #417 BabbaZee

Mornin' Lizards...

Babba, I have always had a strong devotion to St. Michael. The prayer to St. Michael the Archangel was originally composed by Pope Leo XIII. The version most know today is a much shorter version. Pope Leo composed this prayer after a vision at the altar in which God was conversing with Stan. He found it quite shocking and troubling and the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel was the result.

O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, spirits of evil. Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil.

Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels.

Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory.

This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men of depraved mind and corrupt heart, the spirit of lying, of impiety, of blasphemy, and the pestilent breath of impurity, and of every vice and iniquity.

These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the immaculate Lamb, and have
laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered....

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate thee as their protector and patron; in thee holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, do thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer
seduce the nations. Amen.

V. Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered ye hostile powers.

R. The Lion of the tribe of Juda has conquered the root of David.

V. Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord.

R.: As we have hoped in Thee.

V. O Lord, hear my prayer.

R. And let my cry come unto Thee.

Let us pray.

O God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy name, and as supplicants we implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of souls. Amen.

I need to get a copy of the Raccolta

487 LC LaWedgie  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:07:00am

al-Reuters: Gunfight in Jerusalem kills one, injures 8

JERUSALEM - A man stole a gun from an Israeli security guard and opened fire in Jerusalem’s Old City on Friday, sparking a gun battle in which the gunman was killed and at least eight others injured, police and medics said.

An Israeli police commander described the man as a “terrorist.” The commander told Israel Radio that the man shot the security guard after stealing his gun.

A second security guard chased after the attacker and shot him, the commander said. The police and the Israeli emergency service Zaka said the gunman appeared to have been killed.

“As a result of the gunfire, a number of civilians were injured,” the police commander said. Zaka said at least eight people were injured in the gunfire.

It was not immediately clear what prompted the man to steal the gun and open fire.

It's never clear to the media what sparks these gunfights or why those silly Jews describe pleasant Arabs utes as "terrorists".

488 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:07:14am

I have a splitting headache.

So I'm going to split.

Have a nice day.

489 apachegunner  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:07:35am

re: #485 lucius septimius
I had a 38 foot Chris Craft Commander moored at Montrose Harbor from 1986 thru 1996. Now I am land locked in the south.....

490 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:07:37am

re: #477 apachegunner


Oooh, sounds like a little piece of heaven - Yep, I truly dig Chicago - in spite of itself!

491 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:08:13am

re: #483 LanceKates

Are you into the polygamy thing? Hmmm -- the picture is coming together now.

492 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:08:23am

re: #479 lucius septimius

a government that strong and intrusive is not nearly afraid enough of its people.

They're afraid of the muslims, but not of their other citizens.

And their citizens are afraid of their government.

493 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:10:01am

re: #491 lucius septimius

me? nah. Hard enough to find ONE woman, and hard enough (once said woman is found) to continually woo her, making her life a joy until death do us part.

besides... who wants more than 1 mother'in'law?

494 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:10:28am

Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. Not as big a mess as we had on Wednesday, but the day is still young. The MTA will find a way to screw things up.

Meanwhile Krauthammer wants to know why Stephen Glass went to war.

495 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:10:28am

re: #484 hayseed

"These are a few of my favorite things ..."

496 hayseed  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:10:41am

re: #488 luzbone

I have a splitting headache.

So I'm going to split.

Have a nice day.

see my 484 for the cure.lol

497 luzbone  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:10:52am

re: #484 hayseed

Good Morning All...ran into some old drug ads that are really funny.

Add this one. A favourite of mine.

498 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:11:50am

re: #489 apachegunner

That's a sweet boat. Got it from Rodi, I presume? There was a really cute chick working in the finance department there back in '86. Went drinking with her at the Chicago Boat Show (used to work that show for many years).

499 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:12:43am

re: #493 LanceKates

Babba! Song Cue!

"What made the red man red?"

500 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:13:47am

re: #484 hayseed

Ha!

"Quick acting hypnotics" - hurry, hurry!

501 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:14:33am

re: #486 Kerfuffle

Interesting, thanks!

My "angel" prayer is shorter, LOL


May Michael be at my right & Gabriel at my left: MI MINI MICHA EL UMISMOLI GAVRI EL Uriel before me and Raphael behind me: UMILFONAI URI EL U MAY ACHORAI R'FO EL And above my head... the Presence of GOD: V'AL ROSHI SH'CHINATH EL

And I add FIRST before praying anything, ever


Oh my dear Lord GOD in heaven!
GOD of Israel!
GOD of Abraham Issac and Jacob!
Mighty master of the universe
Creator of heaven and earth
of all that is seen and unseen....

and THEN I say whatever my prayer is.

The way I end prayer is specific too. All of it put of Jewish traditions but with my own way of saying it.

anyway

It is my belief it is necessary to say hello to HIM and give respect first and most importantly ID WHO it is exactly that
I am calling
so that the correct party picks up on the other end.

NAMES
are highly important

If you don't call the GOD of Israel ya never know who will pick up the line

lol

502 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:15:08am

re: #492 LanceKates

I don't know it's that they're afraid, it's just that these are people who have grown accustomed over the past four centuries to a paternalistic government which they expect to take care of everything. And the government responds, but in a parental sort of way, believing itself to be always right and wiser than the people.

The French Revolution convinced them that "democracy" was dangerous and renewed their faith in "Enlightened Despotism." They haven't lost it yet, despite two world wars and all other sorts of nastiness.

503 duke6855  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:16:52am

C&F has a good 'toon up today - and makes a good point.

Cox and Forkum

504 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:19:14am

re: #486 Kerfuffle
PS:
In rare moments
if I was desperate, scared, short of breath (LOL), short on time, short on patience, or just temporarily stupefied I sometimes will only say FATHER! ABBA! GOD OF ISRAEL! first

505 Is it me?  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:20:56am

I am very heartened by the SIAD website. I was starting to think it was just me. If this is beginning to gather pace over Europe then there's hope for us still. Polititians and EU fanatics take note. The People are starting to speak. Listen. Your time is coming - and that includes that dim-wit Mayor Freddy Thielmans!

506 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:21:37am

re: #502 lucius septimius

Governments should make decisions based on the idea that a wrong decision will lead to angry people who WILL do something about it.

Unfortunately, this also requires that the populace is not only enformed, but mature.

saddly, much of the world has become very immature and selfish.

507 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:22:17am

re: #503 duke6855

75% of attacks on US military in iraq are being carried out by a faction of the iraqi gov't.

508 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:22:42am

Good morning and Happy Friday everyone!

509 SnakeSpit  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:23:29am

A little early morning Bob Dylan stuff. Performed by the Leningrad Cowboys and the Russian Red Army Choir:

510 nonic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:23:54am

re: #472 FriarsTale

MIAMI - Jurors who will soon debate the guilt or innocence of Jose Padilla and two other men on terrorism support charges cannot consider whether their actions were justified by Islamic law, a federal judge ruled.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke agreed Thursday to a request from prosecutors to instruct the jurors that each of the men can be convicted even if they "may have believed that the conduct was religiously, politically or morally required, or that ultimate good would result."

Jurors are expected to begin deliberations after closing statements Monday and Tuesday. Padilla and co-defendants Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi are charged with being part of a North American support cell that provided finances, supplies and recruits to al-Qaida and other Islamic extremist groups.

A cornerstone of the defense during the nearly three-month trial was the idea that Islamic teaching provides for legitimate "defensive jihad," which differs from terrorism because it is meant to counter aggression against Muslims and does not threaten innocent people.

How can it be a bad thing for the judge to instruct the jury that there is no "muslim exception" to obeying the law?

511 Duke6855  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:24:48am

re: #507 BenZacharia

*shrug* and we're not doing anything about that either - I was referring to the reference that Iran's direct acknowledged (by us) support for attacks in Iraq started two years ago to the day.

512 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:25:10am

Attn NYC area Lizards

Brooklyn, NY - Assemblyman Dov Hikind To Protest Arab Brooklyn School

Brooklyn, NY - Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D-Brooklyn) will be joined by community leaders, concerned citizens, and elected officials to demand the removal of Debbie Almontaser as principal from The Khalil Gibran School, set to open for the September 2007 school term. "Almontaser just doesn't get it. How can she possibly, transmit to students in an experimental Arab school that some Muslim words have been used to justify killing innocent men, women and children? When she sanctioned 'Intifada NYC' t-shirts, she completely undermined the intent of the Khalil Gibran International Academy. She has tainted the whole concept of this school with her outrageous comments," said Hikind.

"I have personally spoken with scores of New Yorkers who are very concerned about where a school like this would go. They legitimately want to know if school projects would laud Hezbollah leader Nasrallah? Would Israel's Independence Day be treated as a Yawm al-Nakba, a catastrophic anniversary."

Date: Sunday, August 12th Time: 10:00 a.m.
Place: NYC Department of Education Headquarters.2
52 Chambers Street, New York City between Broadway and Centre Street

513 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:25:38am

Evidently, there is no cure for stupidity.

Columnist: We need another 9/11

Attention Philly Lizards: Has this guy always been a braindead moron? Is this a joke? Is he a LLL?

514 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:26:22am

re: #509 SnakeSpit

very cool link thanks


Good Morning No Sub

515 anat  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:26:26am

re: #505 Is it me?

I am very heartened by the SIAD website. I was starting to think it was just me. If this is beginning to gather pace over Europe then there's hope for us still. Politicians and EU fanatics take note. The People are starting to speak. Listen. Your time is coming - and that includes that dim-wit Mayor Freddy Thielmans!

It isn't just you. It is a very important development. But the Europeans need help. See comments above, #301, 312, 454.

516 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:26:30am

There is nothing like poetic justice.

517 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:26:50am

re: #511 Duke6855

I was just pointing out that the destination of those weapons is to a faction of the iraqi gov't.

518 Kerfuffle  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:27:10am

re: #501 BabbaZee

re: #486 Kerfuffle

{snip}

If you don't call the GOD of Israel ya never know who will pick up the line

lol

Hehe yes your prayer is shorter, but beautiful and potent none the less. I typically pray the shorter version of the prayer to St. Michael.

Hehe, yeah I guess I wouldn't want to get a wrong number lol.

And if I am in a hurry, etc. the 'Glory Be' typically fits the bill.

519 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:27:57am

re: #510 nonic

re: #472 FriarsTale


How can it be a bad thing for the judge to instruct the jury that there is no "muslim exception" to obeying the law?

"defensive jihad," which differs from terrorism because it is meant to counter aggression against Muslims and does not threaten innocent people.

Hard to see how the defense would make the claim that this applies to the accused in this case. Unless one follows the Stanish definition of "guilty" as "non-Muslim." Which the defense probably does.

520 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:28:23am

re: #513 JammieWearingFool

We were talking about this article a while upthread.

521 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:28:32am

babba starving

bagel time

BBIAM

522 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:30:07am

Hi NoSub,

re: #508 NoSubmission

Good morning and Happy Friday everyone!

Are the trains on time today?

After Wednesday's fiasco, I'm wondering if there's more flooding this morning. It's been an absolute downpour on this side of the Hudson for at least the past four hours.

523 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:30:10am

re: #521 BabbaZee

I've already had my yoghurt and granola. Didn't see any fruit cups on the buffet earlier.

524 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:31:19am
525 nonic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:32:03am

re: #433 lucius septimius

(Nonic usually beats me to it)

I am very happy to "(un)officially" turn over to you all linking to Opinion Journal and Wall Street Journal.

(No sarc or snark or any other BS. Just a plain, honest statement.)

:-)

526 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:32:06am

Instead of praying to the creature, try praying to the CREATOR.

/Bypass layers of bureaucracies, go straight to the CHIEF.

527 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:32:35am

re: #522 JammieWearingFool

I heard there was an F-2 tornado in Brooklyn the other day. 'Dat true?

528 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:32:58am

re: #525 nonic

Why thanks! I will try to keep up.

And you are you this fine morning? Garden doing well?

529 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:33:42am

re: #522 JammieWearingFool
HI. Trains were fine today. Although from now on I'll always have a sideways glance at the MTA when water falls from the sky. I can't blame anyone for Wednesday honestly. Things happen. We can't control or prevent everything.

530 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:34:57am

re: #520 lucius septimius

re: #513 JammieWearingFool

We were talking about this article a while upthread.

Playing catch-up today.

I'm buried under an avalanche of paperwork this morning and my office was remodeled last night so I've had little time to sift through this and previous threads.

I go 12 hours without LGF and it feels like I'm gone for a week.

531 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:34:59am

re: #457 Kenneth

If the Chinese flood the market with US dollars, why would the Fed pump out more dollars?

I think the China issue is a very minor concern to the Fed's right now. They got much bigger fish to fry than that.

532 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:35:06am

re: #525 nonic

You guys can share... heh. one links from one half the other from the other half.

And me? Well, I'm the only one that links to the things I link to..... like females with firearms.

533 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:35:20am

Linkage: Grauniad Ciff's Neil Clark cheers for the "Iraqi resistance", in Keep these quislings out ("Quislings"?! I thought only us "right-wing fascists" used that word!). Excerptjes:

A group of pro-war bloggers is playing a prominent role in a campaign to grant asylum to Iraqis who have been working as translators for the British forces in Iraq.

That's Clark's main complaint. The "quislings" in question are those translators.

More:

The most nauseating aspect of the campaign is the way we are repeatedly told that the Iraqi interpreters worked for "us". Who exactly is meant by "us"? In common with millions of other Britons, I did not want the Iraq war, an illegal invasion of a sovereign state engineered and egged on by a tiny minority of fanatical neoconservatives whose first loyalty was not to Britain but to the cause of Pax Americana. [...]

Give me that ol'-time anti-Americanism!

Analogies with the 44 Gurkha veterans who fought for Britain in the Falklands war and who are yet to receive citizenship rights are absurd. In that conflict, Britain was responding to an illegal act of aggression by Argentina;

Standard, thy name is double.

But here's where Clark really takes the cake:

The interpreters did not work for "us", the British people, but for themselves - they are paid around £16 a day, an excellent wage in Iraq - and for an illegal occupying force. Let's not cast them as heroes. The true heroes in Iraq are those who have resisted the invasion of their country. [Emphasis mine. --ZY]

I hesitated when, in a previous thread, I wrote my thought that nearly all the staff of Grauniad Ciff ought to be tried and hanged for treason against civilization, for providing aid and comfort to Islamic barbarism. I thought it might be over the top. Clark shows me it wasn't.

OK, lizards, I have to depart for Sabbath preparations, and then 25 hours of technological silence. Shabbat Shalom! And...

(((((BabbaZeeeeeeeeee!)))))

534 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:35:51am

Best Dog in the World™ Update (reposted from last night):

Some good news on the Best Dog in the World™. She greeted the vet this morning standing up in her cage and wagging her tail -- recall that she could just barely lift her head or stand two days ago. She's put on 8/10 of a pound (weighed right after peeing, so it's not "water" weight). And she's eating -- ate some thin beef steak this morning and a can of cat food. Vet is going to try some rice and beef this evening (note: that was last night -- ctp). She said that if she is still eating tomorrow (and presumably if the blood work from today's sample looks good), she may let her come home for the weekend...

On the diagnosis front, after discussing it with a colleague from vet school and somebody else at a University vet school -- all seem to agree on what it isn't and that the most likely cause is something in the GI tract. So, they still want to get her well enough for the endoscope and ultrasound....

535 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:36:21am

re: #457 Kenneth


At this point, should we expect a moonbat to start blathering about the powerfl new Iranian oil bourse?

I expect to see calls for more regulation, socialism and communism as a result.

536 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:36:45am

re: #526 BenZacharia

Exactly my point
but it is also OK to ask for angelic protection FROM HIM

537 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:36:56am

re: #524 MandyManners

Like the "Smokey and the Bandit" reference. Love that movie.

How are you this fine morning? Kid being good? My boys are fighting senselessly, but that's normal.

538 apachegunner  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:38:23am

re: #498 lucius septimius
Amazing Lucius, I do believe thats who I bought it from. Small world isn't it.

539 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:38:28am

re: #478 LanceKates

Hope you get there. heh. One major drawback to a city being so covered by impervious surfaces is having to deal with water drainage.... can't soak in though concrete. heh.


That's what basements are for...scattered site retainage :)

540 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:38:35am

re: #527 MandyManners

re: #522 JammieWearingFool

I heard there was an F-2 tornado in Brooklyn the other day. 'Dat true?

Yes there was. First tornado in Brooklyn in 118 years.

Some pinheads blame global warming, of course.

541 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:39:03am

re: #534 christheprofessor

that's VERY good news! I hope your dog is well enogh soon for the vets to find and fix the problem.

542 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:39:15am

re: #534 christheprofessor

That's good news -- hopefully more to come.

543 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:39:19am

Rule change may be adding to volatility

But until last month, short sellers were only allowed to sell at a price above the last price of a stock, or at the price of the stock's last trade if it was higher than the previous price.

The so-called "uptick rule" or "tick test" was implemented in the 1930s after the stock market crash to ensure short sellers were not alone in causing a stock price to fall.

/paging the guy that said, "Those who ignore histroy are doomed to repeat it."

544 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:39:32am

re: #533 ZionistYoungster

{ZIONIST Y!}

Shabbat Shalom.

The true heroes in Iraq are those who have resisted the invasion of their country. [Emphasis mine. --ZY]


flies could land in my mouth. I still cant believe it when people say this kind of crap

545 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:05am

re: #538 apachegunner

In the world of Chris Craft, yes.

They're actually a pretty good outfit, unlike the "Skipper Bud" ah's further north.

546 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:22am

re: #537 lucius septimius

The Kid is most excellent: he's in school. I wish he was a little girl. Those little plaid skirts and jumpers are just adorable.

547 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:28am

re: #539 3 wood

I think they designed some of the houses I lived in up in MN for that purpose.

Or, more accurately, I lived in a few houses with some bad basement leaks. heh.

I learned at a young age what a sump pump was.

548 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:45am

lance, lucius

Gracias, mi amigos. I'm really hoping she can come home today. I miss having her around...

549 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:52am

We do not need another September 11th. As we saw, all that love and brotherhood evaporated quickly in some areas.

You do not want to live through what would really finally bring us together.

550 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:40:53am

re: #544 BabbaZee

re: #533 ZionistYoungster

{ZIONIST Y!}

Shabbat Shalom.

The true heroes in Iraq are those who have resisted the invasion of their country. [Emphasis mine. --ZY]


flies could land in my mouth. I still cant believe it when people say this kind of crap

Well THAT'S a potent visual. Especially when you add the half-chewed bagel into the mix.

551 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:42:05am

re: #543 BenZacharia

as I said yesterday: The love of money is the root of all evil.

ok, I wasn't the FIRST to say it. heh.

552 lucius septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:42:06am

re: #546 MandyManners

re: #537 lucius septimius

Those little plaid skirts and jumpers are just adorable.

Now you're playing on all the male fantasies around here. Way too early in the morning for that (at least for the post-40 set)

553 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:42:37am

CtP

I'm so pleased at the wonderful news!

554 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:42:38am

re: #548 christheprofessor

no matter how many people live in a house, it seems empty without the family pet.

I understand that feelnig.

555 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:43:12am

re: #540 JammieWearingFool

Global warming 118 years ago? Man, how long has this been going on?

556 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:43:31am

re: #549 NoSubmission

No I don't. But I fully intend to.

557 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:43:49am

re: #552 lucius septimius

Well, how pervy.

558 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:44:00am

re: #550 lucius septimius

ROTF!

559 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:44:53am

re: #534 christheprofessor

Good to hear your baby is getting better!

560 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:03am

More verbal gymnastics from the pandering Democrats.

DEMS LEAVE GAYS AT THE ALTAR IN FORUM

561 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:10am

re: #550 lucius septimius
LOL! I am so picturing it.

562 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:21am

re: #549 NoSubmission

Agreed. I think the whole article is sort of stupid. See what I said above on that score.

563 Dolphin  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:23am

Question.. You know the triangle yellow road signs? Deer crossing, pedestrian crossing, falling rocks, etc? They also have ones that say “Church” on them. Has anyone ever seen one that says “Synagogue” or “Temple”?

The other day, when hubby and I were driving around on the north side of Houston there was one that said “Mosque” a little while up the road – there it was. Nothing but a run down, old business looking building. But to my outrage I soon realized it is directly north of the Air traffic control at Houston Intercontinental Airport. Just made a mental note and am going to take my camera and get some pictures of it next time.

564 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:26am

re: #522 JammieWearingFool


Hey Jammie, how are the Giants shaping up?

The Bears will have a better offense and a worse defense. Their big question mark is the offensive line is ready for Social Security.

565 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:45:34am

re: #549 NoSubmission

They were talking about that this morning on FOX and Friends...

I remember the United States NOT being United after 9/11. I remember Congress singing that stupid "we shall overcome" on the steps, but then all the rants about What President Bush Knew, and when, and who did it, and how the Administration wants to take too hard of a reaction, and how we need to understand those who would attack us. etc. etc. etc.

We weren't united... we were just shocked. I remember one of the libs (I think it was Pelosi) degrading people who had flags on their houses as 'tacky'

566 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:46:56am

GotC

Thanks... I'm pretty psyched!

lance

Yup...

567 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:47:24am

re: #563 Dolphin

I feel bad enough for the signs telling me about the Slow Children.

how embarrassing.

(heh.)

568 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:47:26am

MM -- thanks!

569 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:47:44am

re: #563 Dolphin

If they have an icon that goes along with the word mosque, paint it out and replace with the DOT symbol for 'danger exsplosives'.

570 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:48:08am

re: #529 NoSubmission


I can't blame anyone for Wednesday honestly. Things happen. We can't control or prevent everything.

You got an inch of rain an hour for 3 to 4 hours straight. There's not enough money in the world to build drainage sytems that can handle all that flow off of impervious surface.

571 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:48:38am

re: #569 BenZacharia

or a bullseye

572 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:48:53am

Dolphin

Or use the exploding moman cartoon.

573 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:49:20am

re: #534 christheprofessor


Best Dog in the World™ Update


Great news! You and she will have to have some real quality time this weekend. Lotsa lovin'!

574 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:49:40am

re: #557 MandyManners

Can't help it -- I'm a guy.

School ain't starting for us at all -- my lovely bride decided (and I concurred) to start home-schooling this year. We've been doing it all summer and have been amazed by the progress the kids have made. My eight-year old was having trouble reading; now he's reading The Red Badge of Courage. No kidding. I had to help him through the first chapter (the use of the asterix to mark missing letters, eg. comin', 'round, 'cept -- he'd never seen that before).

The schools here are really bad -- even a friend who is in education told us we did the right thing and offered to get curriculum stuff for us (Georgia is not a friendly state for home-schoolers).

575 nonic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:49:44am

re: #528 lucius septimius

Why thanks! I will try to keep up.

Whatever you do is up to you. :-) But with you willing to do this, I will no longer pursue it. Most of the time my links were too early anyway. So, go for it. :-)

If you feel you need to, you know you can check what links are already posted on a thread with the "show links" button.

And you are you this fine morning? Garden doing well?

Good enough. Got a lot of rain last night and this morning.

And you?

576 shug  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:49:59am

Did you hear about the guy with the five penises?

His pants fit like a glove


/newbomb turk

577 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:50:04am

On the Padilla trial, one note:
When a Christian feels he MUST go against the law of a country he willingly accepts that country's punishment for the act....if they catch him.
But muslims want to break laws in infidel countries and use islamic law as a way to skate their criminal liabilities.
That's nuts!

578 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:51:18am
579 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:51:37am

re: #576 shug

lol

580 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:52:13am

re: #577 mean Gene

Generally... if a Christian is breaking the laws of the land for his or her faith, the broken law is being a christian, having a bible and/or prayer.

When a muslim breaks the laws of the land for his or her faith, it involves blowing things up and killing people.

581 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:52:29am

re: #543 BenZacharia


Exactly.

Like I said above, beware of rumors about firms going belly-up int he next few days. The short sellers are going to try to manipulate the market.

582 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:52:38am
583 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:52:50am

re: #575 nonic

It's been way too hot to go out and work in the garden -- did some stuff, but by 11:00 it's already over 90. Since we've recently decided to move in a year or so there isn't much incentive either.

584 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:53:19am

re: #574 Lucius Septimius

I would've figured that Georgia would be friendly to homeschoolers, being in the Bible belt and all.

585 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:53:24am

re: #570 3 wood

re: #529 NoSubmission
I can't blame anyone for Wednesday honestly. Things happen. We can't control or prevent everything.

You got an inch of rain an hour for 3 to 4 hours straight. There's not enough money in the world to build drainage sytems that can handle all that flow off of impervious surface.


Precisely. The minute something goes wrong, the fingers start pointing. Subway riders are whining, 'they won't tell us anything',,...'they won't help us'.... 'they should have done this' 'they should have done that'. Get real, people. I don't LOVE the MTA either, but there's a flood. There's 10 million people here. Stop expecting everyone to take care of you and deal with it.

586 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:53:30am

Good Morning Y'all, from HOT (85 degrees already going up to 104 degrees today) Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

587 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:53:35am

re: #574 Lucius Septimius

When I was a youth preacher, I made the kids read the bible in class, out loud. only one of them read really well, one had a big reading problem.

by the time my internship was over, they were all reading ALOT better.

588 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:55:06am

NYC ARABIC SCHOOL IS SHORT ON, UM, ARABIC

If NYC had any actual leaders, they'd pull the plug on this nonsense.

589 ec marm  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:55:17am

re: #583 Lucius Septimius

Since we've recently decided to move in a year or so there isn't much incentive either.

Time to put it on the market then. You might get an offer by then. (gloom and doom real estate seller, here)

590 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:55:44am

Yo Real


I'll be back later

591 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:55:55am

re: #547 LanceKates


I learned at a young age what a sump pump was.

And sumps don't last for ever. I replace mine about every 5 years.

Friend of mine had one that was 15 years old and I advised him to replace it, but he was too cheap to spend the $200 to $300 to get it done. Two months later we had a big storm and he ended up with 3 feet of water in the basement cause the sump burned out.

Oooops.

592 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:55:57am

re: #584 MandyManners

Very power teachers union closely allied with the NAACP, SCLC, Social-Democratic-Race-Warlord Party. They allow charter schools and then skim off 70% of the monies -- charter schools here literally have to go begging for funds. I know one really good one aimed at teaching English to Latinos and Vietnamese immigrants where the principal (a refugee from the "boat people" times) has never drawn a paycheck.

593 nonic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:56:27am

re: #532 LanceKates

You guys can share... heh. one links from one half the other from the other half.

Hiya, Lance. No, I'm happy to give up the job. I want to wean myself off this site somewhat, anyway. It takes up too much of my time!

Sorry, guys. I love ya all, but that's the truth.

Another thing, is with the Ajax, crimies, I fall so far behind so fast, my comments become very irrelevant in no time -- or what seems like no time to me, but is maybe a half hour.

I'm sure I'll continue reading, but I expect you'll see my commenting diminish considerably. At least, that's my plan. LOL :-)

594 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:56:31am

re: #587 LanceKates

One thing about The Kid's school bothers me. They read the NIV Bible. The King James' version is much prettier.

595 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:56:41am

re: #586 realwest

Mornin' Real. Hot and sticky. Bit of a stomach bug too. Other than that, TGIF (not like Friday means all that much these days).

596 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:56:52am
597 Geepers  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:57:12am

Kenneth (#457),

Agreed. The Chinese seem to think we can't exist without cheap plastic crap. I'm betting they're wrong.

598 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:57:24am

re: #592 Lucius Septimius

Why do the people allow that crap?

599 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:58:00am

re: #587 LanceKates

We insist they do their reading lessons aloud. I'm also thinking that I'm going to have them start doing a bit of declamation, especially the youngest one. Speaking clearly is one of the greatest assets anyone can have.

600 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:58:29am

re: #576 shug

Did you hear about the guy with the five penises?

His pants fit like a glove


/newbomb turk

This punch has a wang to it...

I loved that movie back in HS.

601 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:58:36am

re: #586 realwest

I'm great. Kinda' hot and sweaty already.

Gotta' love dem dog days.

602 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:58:43am

re: #588 JammieWearingFool

Nah, they're too busy fining ice cream truck drivers, banning the words 'bitch' and 'ho' and taking away guns.


re: #591 3 wood

Yes indeed. In MN the big threat is in the early spring, as all of the snow melts at once. Once that water drains away, the normal storms don't really affect much.

But boy, during that melt, there sure is alot of water.

603 Kerfuffle  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:59:38am

re: #526 BenZacharia

Instead of praying to the creature, try praying to the CREATOR.

/Bypass layers of bureaucracies, go straight to the CHIEF.

BenZ,

Oh I do my good fellow. I do.

But sometimes you need all the help you can get and it doesn't hurt to have some highly placed and respected individuals placing a good word for you in the Big Man's ear ;)

604 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:59:53am

Has Savage_Nation been AWOL since we went out the other nite and painted the town biege?

605 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:00:42am

re: #494 lawhawk

I love Krauthammer but he's being extra-generous to attribute Beauchamp's motivation to literary ambition.

606 shug  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:00:44am

re: #600 JammieWearingFool


one of the all time great flicks ( at least if you are stuck in a state of perpetual Adolescence like me )

what do you get when you cross a donkey with a bermuda onion?

A piece of ass that brings tears to your eyes

607 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:02:07am

re: #574 Lucius Septimius


School ain't starting for us at all -- my lovely bride decided (and I concurred) to start home-schooling this year.

We home schooled all 3 with very good results.

My eldest just got her Bachelors with honors, #2 just sailed through her 1st year of college while working close to full time on the side, and my youngest will start college about a year early this spring.

608 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:02:24am

re: #598 MandyManners

I don't know, and the Republicans in the state (nearly all Reagan Democrats) aren't much better. We have some of the highest teachers' salaries in the country (no lie) and the schools consistently rank 47 or below. Zell Miller tried to make some changes, but the public school idea is too closely tied to racial politics to make any headway. Upper Middle Class white folks (mostly Carpetbaggers) go to private school, so they don't care. Plus it makes their northeast liberal hearts feel good "supporting" schools (i.e., turning them over to Race Warlords and lefty educrats) they would never send their kids to in a million years.

Private school tuition for elementary school is running 12-14K in our area. And from what I've seen teaching MA education classes, the level of instruction still isn't up to what you get in public schools in Illinois ( or at least what you used to get up there)

609 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:02:55am
610 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:02:57am

re: #606 shug

Rimshot!

611 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:02:59am

re: #582 FrogMarch

A Giant F . U . to John Murtha

John F*cking&trade Murtha is no longer a member of the band of brothers known as United States Marines. He's been ex-communicated.

612 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:03:02am

re: #593 nonic

but... but... we'd miss you!

re: #594 MandyManners

Eh, it is all personal preference. When teaching kids about faith and God, I prefer a bible that is in a little more understandable English.

While the language in the KJV may be a bit more Shakespearean in nature, an 8 year old gets a mental block on learning things of faith.

The bible I read from is mainly an NASB with color coded verses. (makes skimming for information alot easier. heh) But I also have a Parallel bible, which has NKJ, NIV, ASB and a fourth translation, all in a row on the page. It helps to see more than one translation for some words.

my greek has gotten rusty, but I also have a greek NT that I sometimes use in preparation of sermons and articles (or to answer questions of friends)

613 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:03:45am

re: #588 JammieWearingFool Good morning! I was just astounded by these quotes from your link:
Almontaser came under fire this week for her comments to The Post that appeared to condone "Intifada NYC" T-shirts.

The shirts are sold by the activist group Arab Women Active in Arts and Media that operates out of the same office as a Yemeni-American association that Almontaser represents.
Rather than denounce the shirts, Almontaser tried to explain that "intifada" means "shaking off" and the shirts represented women "shaking off" oppression. She later condemned the T-shirt message's connection to Palestinian terrorism.

As The Post reported yesterday, United Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten slammed Almontaser's comments. She called the T-shirts "warmongering."

WTH! The UFT - a BIG union in NYC, came out AGAINST the Intifada NYC T-Shirts?!
Why do you think she'd do that?! LOL!

614 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:04:08am

re: #608 Lucius Septimius

Home schooling is the way to go.

615 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:04:27am

re: #590 BabbaZee YO BABBA! Uh, was it something I said?! LOL!

616 zenren  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:04:39am

Man Murdered Sunday, the Same Day He Was to Leave for Morocco to Visit 2nd Wife

A woman killed her longtime husband hours before he was to leave on a trip to Morocco to try to impregnate his new second wife, prosecutors said in murder charges filed Thursday.... Myra Morton had reluctantly agreed to the second marriage and even traveled to Morocco to sanction it under Islamic law, authorities have said. ..Prosecutors charged Morton with first-degree murder, third-degree murder and related counts. They suggested that jealousy and control of the Mortons' more than $6 million in assets were possible motives for the killing...

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

617 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:05:57am

re: #607 3 wood

I know more folk who are doing it, and most of my best students were home-schooled (that use to be one of our main recruiting efforts until the new leftard president took over).

I used to teach MA education courses and have piles of materials on social studies and geography that I used to put together for my students.

618 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:06:04am

re: #599 Lucius Septimius

Yes.. and will be ESPECIALLY helpful in the job force.

Someone who speaks clearly will often get a job instead of someone who does not.

proper grammar and speech make you look more professional and educated.

(and I have a pet peeve when someone wants to 'ax' me a questions.)

619 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:06:24am

re: #527 MandyManners

Yes. It was true - an EF2 crossed through Bay Ridge Brooklyn, damaging a bunch of homes - ripping the roof off dozens of homes and a car dealership, and uprooting a host of trees.

OT:
Arab attacker rampages through the Old City of Jerusalem. 10 people were wounded before armed security officers of a yeshiva killed the attacker.

620 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:06:43am

Are the Democrats going to have a debate for only straight people also?
I mean...fair is fair.

621 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:06:50am

3 wood,

re: #564 3 wood

re: #522 JammieWearingFool


Hey Jammie, how are the Giants shaping up?

TheBears will have a better offense and a worse defense. Their big questionmark is the offensive line is ready for Social Security.

Everyone says it will be a long season. They need to find some live bodies to make up the usual 2300 yards Tiki Barber put up annually; the whiny Strahan is holding out, but he's pretty much finished.

Eli need to step it up this year, and I expect more out of the passing game. Toomer looks pretty good thus far coming off his injury. The rookie Steve Smith from USC should open some eyes, and hopefully Sinorice Moss can get on the field.

Usually when everyone thinks they'll suck they wind up being a good team; Coughlin needs to at least win a playoff game to keep his job, otherwise Bill Cowher will probably be the coach next year.

622 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:06:52am

Gun Attacks Jerusalem! Man dead!

"Israeli police officers examine the scene of Friday's gun attack in Jerusalem's Old City."
"JERUSALEM - A man stole a gun from an Israeli security guard and opened fire in Jerusalem’s Old City on Friday, sparking a gun battle in which the gunman was killed and at least eight others injured, police and medics said."

"An Israeli police commander described the man as a “terrorist.”

But Reuters describes him as: "the attacker " and then does some head scratching: "It was not immediately clear what prompted the man to steal the gun and open fire."

Hmm what could have provoked him?

623 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:07:04am

re: #604 BenZacharia

He's a trucker... he may be doing a run and not be near a WiFi place to connect... or his laptop might be down.

624 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:07:18am

re: #612 LanceKates

Chaucer and earlier authors were more understandable to me than they were to students who had never read the King James Bible.

625 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:07:25am

link
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

626 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:07:35am

re: #593 {nonic} HEY! Whaddya mean cut back on your LGF time?! If you REALLY loved us you'd spend MORE time out here, not less!
LOL!
I am, obviously just kidding, but I'm gonna miss your posts a lot! AND I'm jealous that you have a real life, too!

627 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:08:02am

re: #618 LanceKates

Someone who speaks clearly will often get a job instead of someone who does not.

slight mod;

Someone who speaks clearly, like Abu, will often get a job instead of someone who does not.

628 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:08:14am

re: #614 MandyManners

re: #608 Lucius Septimius

Home schooling is the way to go.

No kidding. We have an intern working with us who just turned 17 & was home-schooled. What a smart (and not just book smart), polite, hard-working kid. When I was his age, I was burning stuff in the mall parking lot.

629 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:08:24am

re: #620 DesertSage

no, it isn't fair if Gay people are excluded.

It is quite alright to exclude straight people as they're not really people, per se.

630 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:09:01am

re: #619 lawhawk

Except for here, I've heard about it once in the MSM.

A tornado went through Nashville a while back, and through either Houston or Dallas.

631 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:09:23am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius Morning my friend. Sorry to hear about that stomach bug! How long have you had it? Any fever or anything that would make an intelligent person like you see a doctor instead of self-diagnosing?!

632 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:09:28am

re: #623 LanceKates

re: #604 BenZacharia

He's a trucker... he may be doing a run and not be near a WiFi place to connect... or his laptop might be down.

You guys talking about savage? He was on yesterday afternoon, he said he was going to make an overnight run when the weather was cool. He probably just got to sleep a couple hours ago.

633 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:09:35am

re: #612 LanceKates


my greek has gotten rusty,

Now that's a geekazoid comment!

(mine is too -- but teaching this class has helped keep it going)

634 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:10am

re: #623 LanceKates

I know, it's ____ with a ____ stripe.

635 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:11am

re: #619 lawhawk

636 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:23am

re: #624 MandyManners

well, there is something to be said for exposing children to such things, but I would rather teach them an easy to understand bible, and also have them read shakespeare.

When it comes to faith, I believe (especially nowdays) that kids need a firm understanding of what it means to be a christian and make wise decisions, even if they are only 9 years old.

They only get 'the other side' in most schools, and that side is VERY plain and tempting.

637 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:24am

re: #628 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL! You turned out okay.

638 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:30am

re: #585 NoSubmission

But....but....it's all about ME! I am the most impirtant person in the world and that includes the Greater Metropolitan Area! I demand to have no inconveniences foisted upon me, natural or otherwise!

Living here makes me nuts...

639 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:49am

re: #614 MandyManners

I've come to that decision. After my son's grammar and reading skills declined last year, I became convinced that this was the only way to go.

640 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:10:59am

re: #601 MandyManners Good morning Mandy!
Um, "Gotta' love dem dog days." Why?!

641 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:11:10am

re: #627 BenZacharia

heh.. saddly, one's ethnic background can earn extra points when getting a job.

unless they're white, then it is illegal. (or male)

racial equality and all..

642 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:11:30am
643 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:03am

re: #641 LanceKates

Not so much ethnic background, valid/invalid visa.

644 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:03am

re: #636 LanceKates

That's why I got him out of the public system. There was some sexual acting-out by one of his classmates in Kindergarten. Good grief.

645 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:08am

re: #633 Lucius Septimius

hard to go through any ministry program without having to pick up some greek and/or Hebrew.

I took greek. Hebrew wasn't offered. Spanish was, but that's ok.

646 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:21am

re: #613 realwest

As The Post reported yesterday, United Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten slammed Almontaser's comments. She called the T-shirts "warmongering."

I didn't know that. Cool!
There's a big protest on Sunday.
Brooklyn, NY - Assemblyman Dov Hikind To Protest Arab Brooklyn School
I posted it earlier upthread.

647 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:47am

re: #628 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #614 MandyManners

re: #608 Lucius Septimius

When I was his age, I was burning stuff in the mall parking lot.

And you're not now? Missing out, dude.

648 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:13:52am

re: #617 Lucius Septimius


I know more folk who are doing it, and most of my best students were home-schooled

My eldest said that when she went to college she felt that she was light years ahead of most of the other students. She knew how to read, write, add, and most importantly how to study and discipline herself enough to get her work done. And she averaged working about 25 hours a week all that time, too.

649 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:14:22am

re: #640 realwest

It's either love 'em or hate 'em. Hating takes too much energy.

650 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:14:36am

re: #642 taxfreekiller

'Cept only OTMs can afford them.

651 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:14:38am

re: #644 MandyManners

Horrible, but I'm not surprised.

652 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:14:41am

re: #611 DesertSage Hey Sage! How are you doing this fine morning, my friend?!
And what's with "John F*cking&trade Murtha"?
What, my "John Fucking Murtha" wasn't good enough for ya?! And what does &trade mean?

653 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:15:06am

re: #618 LanceKates

re: #599 Lucius Septimius

Yes.. and will be ESPECIALLY helpful in the job force.
Someone who speaks clearly will often get a job instead of someone who does not.
proper grammar and speech make you look more professional and educated.
(and I have a pet peeve when someone wants to 'ax' me a questions.)


My pet peeve is 'Where are you at?' WTF? I hate that and it's become mainstreamed so you hear it all the time now.

654 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:15:59am

re: #643 BenZacharia

also too true.

I still say a good answer to replacing the illegal immigrant workforce is prison labor.

prisoners can pick crops and build houses. supervised, of course, and they have to 'earn' the jobs that'd involve tools. keep the pay the same, buck or two an hour.. goes to the prison to offset budget needs. (and in cases of construction, the prisoner leaves prison after 5 or 10 years with that much experience in a trade, and could even start a job on the higher end of the payscale as a supervisor... or go out on their own and start their own business as a contractor... it'd get them out of the crime lifestyle MUCH more effectively than entitlement programs)

655 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:16:27am

re: #653 NoSubmission

Whatever happened to 'what's your 20?'

656 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:16:55am

re: #653 NoSubmission

that cell phone commercial with "Where you at?" "Oh, I know where you at, and you know where I'm at, so let's leave it at that" has me changing the channel to keep from crushing the remote.

657 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:17:04am

re: #645 LanceKates

I'm self taught in Greek and had been working on Hebrew, but not very efficiently -- third kid sort of trashed that little project.

You'd be surprised (or maybe not) how many folks are in ministry who don't know any Greek or Hebrew and don't think they should learn any. Most div school curricula seem to be nothing but identity politics and psycho babble.

658 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:17:26am

re: #653 NoSubmission

re: #618 LanceKates


re: #599 Lucius SeptimiusYes.. and will be ESPECIALLY helpful in the job force.
Someone who speaks clearly will often get a job instead of someone who does not.
proper grammar and speech make you look more professional and educated.
(and I have a pet peeve when someone wants to 'ax' me a questions.)


My pet peeve is 'Where are you at?' WTF? I hate that and it's become mainstreamed so you hear it all the time now.

"Where are you at" is still better than "Where you at?" (trademarked slogan of Boost Mobile Phone)

659 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:22am

re: #654 LanceKates

Nice.

Only thing is, I oppose incarceration as punishment.

660 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:30am

Mandy

Was it you who mentioned that when dogs lick or chew their paws/legs that it is a sign of alergies?

Our Yorkie has been doing so. What would she be alergic to?

661 shug  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:33am

where you is

662 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:45am

re: #648 3 wood

That's been my experience. And aside from one kid who was manic-depressive, I haven't seen any evidence that they are "narrow" or not properly "socialized." Most of them are far more mature than their peers.

663 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:54am

Violence in the Phillipines continues - 53 dead, including 26 Phillipine soldiers as a result of MILF and Abu Sayyaf, both of which are connected with al Qaeda and other jihadi groups.

664 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:18:56am

re: #654 LanceKates

can a contractor be a felon?

665 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:19:05am

Wow. I take a half day off and the world implodes.

The same week that Newsweek tars global warming "deniers" as energy industry shills, NASA dramatically revises it's own climate data.

Revised temperature figures reveal that 5 of the hottest years on record occurred before WWII.

NASA has now silently released corrected figures, and the changes are truly astounding. The warmest year on record is now 1934. 1998 (long trumpeted by the media as record-breaking) moves to second place. 1921 takes third. In fact, 5 of the 10 warmest years on record now all occur before World War II.

Still the debate is over. The science is settled. The consensus of scientific opinion is overwhelming. Anthropogenic global warming must be accepted without question.

Fall from the purer faith on Global Warming and you're no better than a Holocaust denier.

666 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:19:19am

re: #644 MandyManners

insane... everything shifts. pop music star acts like a stripper, then the high school girls act like a stripper, then the middle school girls (wanting to act like high school girls) act like a stripper.

meanwhile the parents 'just want to be their friend."

The other day I was at walmart and this girl, couldn't be over 12, was wearing a tank top that said "Sexy" across the front and shorts that I'd consider little more covering than a belt.

And she was there with her trampy looking mother.

our society is lost if our parents can't become better examples for our children.

667 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:19:30am

re: #652 realwest

re: #611 DesertSage Hey Sage! How are you doing this fine morning, my friend?!
And what's with "John F*cking™ Murtha"?
What, my "John Fucking Murtha" wasn't good enough for ya?! And what does ™ mean?

Silly realwest, the &trade means that that expression belongs to you, you coined it, it's your trademark and I'm honoring it.
The only alteration I make is inserting the *. I guess I'm not as bold as you are.

668 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:20:05am

where you be?

669 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:20:36am

re: #658 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Where are you at" is still better than "Where you at?" (trademarked slogan of Boost Mobile Phone)

They trademarked that? Oh criminey!
They are both dead wrong. Both are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

670 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:21:08am

re: #621 JammieWearingFool Um, it's gonna be really hard for Eli to "step it up" this year if the Jints don't have a running game and from the looks of it, right now, we won't!
Just sayin..................

3- Wood - hey there my friend - how are you doing this fine, albeit HOTTER THAN HELL, morning?!

671 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:21:25am

re: #665 Dirk Diggler

It's just the polluters conspiring with Rupert Murdoch to lie to us. The Goracle said so. The truth is that our polluting ways will lead to an environmental crisis, either burning hot or freezing cold, that will destroy civilization and return us to the purer world where there were no humans to f*ck up Mother Gaia. Praise be Mother Gaia!

672 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:21:28am

Wassssupppp!

673 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:21:51am

re: #656 LanceKates

re: #653 NoSubmission

that cell phone commercial with "Where you at?" "Oh, I know where you at, and you know where I'm at, so let's leave it at that" has me changing the channel to keep from crushing the remote.

Did you ever see the one ATHF episode which was essentially a commercial for that cell phone company? The entire episode was Master Shake dressed as a wankster, shouting "Where you at" into his cell phone for 15 minutes. Boost Mobile may have paid to be a sponsor, but they came of looking like the tools they are for that marketing campaign.

674 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:22:17am

re: #657 Lucius Septimius

The role of the preacher has changed alot... it used to be a 'learned friend' who would study the things of God to lead the congregation as a shepard, in the path of the Good Shepard.

Nowdays, too many use it as a stump for limp-wristed whiny left wing touchy feeling hippie crap.

The left talk about those evil "Religious Right" people.... but alot of Christian Churches I've been in REALLY pander to the left. (Heck, one I was in used an example of 'when your enemy makes you walk a milke, walk two" and referred to a Pallie and an 'oppressive' israeli soldier forcing the pallie to move.)

675 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:22:37am
676 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:22:56am

re: #659 BenZacharia

what do you propose for punishment?

677 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:22:57am

re: #666 LanceKates
A sad sign of our times. We have to teach our girls how to be ladies through and through.

/How'd you get that 666, btw?

678 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:23:40am

re: #664 phoenixgirl

I imagine it would depend on the state. I imagine they wouldn't get alot of work if they let too many people know. heh.

But they can work on another crew in a supervisory role.

679 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:24:00am

re: #673 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What is ATHF?

680 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:24:06am

re: #646 NoSubmission Hey There No Sub! Hope you're doing well and that little tornado didn't affect you in any significant way (can you imagine if an F-2 or F-3 tornado hit downtown Manhattan - or mid-town with all those skyscrapers with GLASS windows?!

681 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:24:25am

re: #674 LanceKates

(Heck, one I was in used an example of 'when your enemy makes you walk a milke, walk two" and referred to a Pallie and an 'oppressive' israeli soldier forcing the pallie to move.)

That's called outflanking your enemy.

682 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:24:58am

re: #677 NoSubmission

well, I made this deal with someone... Lucy something.... I get to be rich and famous in exchange for some "S. Oul" thing.

whatever that is.
*grin*

683 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:24:59am

re: #665 Dirk Diggler

Oh, its far more delicious than that - the guy in charge of the data - James Hansen - is an Al Gore acolyte who had no problem keeping the statistical analyses used in preparing the original data from other researchers, which goes against the scientific method - the ability to repeat the tests and results. Someone had to reverse engineer the data to determine what happened.

Hansen should lose his job and someone should take a much closer look at all the rest of the data worldwide to see if it was similarly affected.

That isn't to say that the earth isn't warmer now than a century ago, but it does throw the seriousness into doubt and one has to question all the assumptions over predictive models because they were based on the prior data. As the prior data was wrong, that means the models will produce nothing but junk. The global warming types will, of course, say that the models are accurate. Sure - they're accurate based on the junk put into them, but it's just junk.

684 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:25:14am

re: #674 LanceKates

This is what drove me from church -- I found myself seething listening to idiotic leftisms and obvious heresies from the pulpit. (in the latter case, I used to keep score to see how many and which heresies I'd hear in a given sermon). I gave up. It's what happens when you live in one of the bluest cities in the country served by one of the most bolsheviki seminaries (Emory) in the country.

685 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:25:31am

Anyone want to tell Bloomberg where to put his Madrassa?

1-800-848-9222 call in number
He's on NOW

MAYOR BLOOMBERG ON WABC RADIO

686 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:25:57am

re: #677 NoSubmission

re: #666 LanceKates
A sad sign of our times. We have to teach our girls how to be ladies through and through.

/How'd you get that 666, btw?

Hey! That's Mandy's Number! No Fair!

687 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:25:59am

re: #660 Endangered in MASS

I have no idea. I'm new at being owned by a Yorkie.

688 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:26:18am

re: #655 BenZacharia Good morning Ben! Um, I don't recall 'what's your 20?' ever being big in the young folks or celebrity vocabulary!

689 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:26:23am

re: #684 Lucius Septimius

Heh. I don't blame you. I just... *shrug* Let's just say that I'm glad that my salvatation and faith do not rest on church roll membership.

690 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:26:54am

re: #666 LanceKates

Monkey see. Monkey do.

691 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:27:02am

re: #680 realwest
Hey real! No, thank heavens that tornado didn't blow down my street. My building would be demolished.

692 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:27:05am
693 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:27:09am

re: #679 NoSubmission

re: #673 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What is ATHF?

Aqua Teen Hunger Force. The truly bizarre cartoon about talking fast food items who live in South Jersey.

694 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:27:24am

re: #689 LanceKates

Amen to that, brother.

(can I get a "Hallelujah!")

695 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:27:41am

re: #676 LanceKates

re: #659 BenZacharia

what do you propose for punishment?

I'm very Biblical when it comes to that.
CCC
Civil-fines/restitution
Corporal-40 strokes save 1.
Capital-to cause the assumption of room temp

aka
FFF
Fine 'em
Flog 'em
Fry 'em

696 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:28:15am

re: #690 MandyManners

Saddly, they are more likely to repeat bad behavior than good.

Sin is odd that way.

697 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:28:18am

Gay Nigerians face Sharia death

Via Dhimmi Watch.

It's like Rosie eating pasta and anti-pasta at the same time.

698 hayseed  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:28:44am

re: #666 LanceKates

went to my swim club yesterday, I tells ya Muslim male heads would have exploded. I'm not a prude but the young ladies could cover up a little more. when they jump off the high board they have to put all thier stuff back in thier swim suites.lol

699 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:28:45am

re: #644 MandyManners


That's why I got him out of the public system. There was some sexual acting-out by one of his classmates in Kindergarten. Good grief.

I took mine eldest out of the Chicago public school system when she was in 2nd grade. A kid in her class pulled a switchblade on her in the hallway and stole her lunch money. The Principal did nothing and told us we had to "understand" that the perpetrator came from a disadvantaged situation, and suggested maybe we would like to buy the perp his lunch evey day too.

I went to the School Board and they threatened legal action against me if I did not shut up and take it. My attorney served them with papers transfering her to our home school the very next day. We never looked back.

700 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:28:50am

re: #693 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #679 NoSubmission

re: #673 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What is ATHF?

Aqua Teen Hunger Force. The truly bizarre cartoon about talking fast food items who live in South Jersey.


Is that part of 'Adult Swim'? Some weird ass cartoons! WEIRD.

701 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:29:22am

re: #667 DesertSage LOL! Um shouldn't it me
John Fucking Murtha (tm) but as upperscript or whatever it's called?!

702 republic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:29:35am

re: #685 NoSubmission

Anyone want to tell Bloomberg where to put his Madrassa?

1-800-848-9222 call in number
He's on NOW

MAYOR BLOOMBERG ON WABC RADIO

Bloomturd isn't worth a warm piture of spit.

He's a leftist kook, among other things, and since this is a family website, I'll just say,

how very sad.

703 ec marm  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:29:35am

Iran uses the press to keep the islamic masses seething. Remember the six incidents of 'acid bombs' being thrown in the Phoenix area? One was thrown at a mosque, which to any U.S. citizen looks like a residential home. Here's how Iran reports it:

US imam survives acid attack
Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:44:44
A mosque imam has survived an acid attack by unknown people in Glendale, Arizona, amid suspicions it was triggered by religious discrimination.

The imam is one of the six prayer leaders who have filed a lawsuit against US Airways after being forcibly removed from a flight last fall.

According to police reports, unknown assailants drove away after throwing a bottle of acid at the prayer leader, but missed the target.


source

704 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:29:55am

re: #688 realwest

re: #655 BenZacharia Good morning Ben! Um, I don't recall 'what's your 20?' ever being big in the young folks or celebrity vocabulary!

Mid '70s

705 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:30:07am
Nigeria, like many African countries, is a conservative society where homosexuality is considered a taboo.

Of course, for the BBC it's an acceptable cultural issue.

It's "taboo" in Africa.

That arguement isn't acceptable to the BBC anywhere else.

706 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:30:43am

re: #668 redstateredneck Hey Red! I be right heah! Where you be at?

707 Know Your Enemy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:31:41am

Any Lizards here in Jax, Fla?

708 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:32:42am

re: #699 3 wood
Damn. In the 2nd grade? Wow.
The school's response reminds me of the Jr. High School 'guidance' counselor that said I should apologize to the boys who were caught leaving filthy obscene typed notes on my desk for months. My mother's head nearly exploded when I told her.

709 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:33:22am

re: #695 BenZacharia

well, I would like to see a return of some such things, but how do you fine someone who has no money?

We don't have debtor's prison, and that's a good thing.

I have no problem with locking people up for crimes... I don't like the current 'rehabilitation' system we have, and believe it can be better served by making the people more independent, rather than just throwing money at stupid projects that have a decades long track record of not working. (but doesn't that define 'liberal act' ?)

I do believe in the death penalty, and even believe in speeding it up. The anti-death penalty people always scream about an innocent person being killed, and the movies are full of examples, but reality is not. Execution is not a deterrant if it takes 20 years to carry it out.

as for corporal punishment..... I think the pain is temorary enough that it wouldn't provide a good punishment for an adult... and there is no more embarrassment in this world when it comes to the criminal element.

We'd have to make SERIOUS corporal punishments, which would eventually have to border on those done in Arab Countries (broken bones, etc). . . and I can't support that.

(I do, oddly enough, support the death penalty for child molesters... that child dies, whether the kid's body realizes it or not.)

710 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:33:55am

re: #698 hayseed

yup yup. 12 yer old girls should not be wearing thongs. heh.

711 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:34:20am

re: #698 hayseed Um, hayseed, my friend, when did it become fashionable or even ACCEPTABLE for men to wish that young women cover up MORE?!
I'm beginning to understand why your neck hurts so much!
Good thing for you that O.R. isn't around yet!

712 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:35:04am

Village Voice bringing Troogerism mainstream?

Rudy on the cover with the title "Guiliani's 5 lies about 9/11"

713 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:35:07am

re: #699 3 wood

always nice to see that criminals have more rights than the innocent.

the criminal has more of a right to lunch than your child... so much moreso that they suggest that YOU pay for lunch for the criminal. (as a 'legal payoff')

714 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:35:31am

re: #700 NoSubmission

I still like Futurama and Family Guy.

715 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:35:49am

re: #709 LanceKates

re: #695 BenZacharia

well, I would like to see a return of some such things, but how do you fine someone who has no money?

All the answers, applications and details for crime and punishment are in the Bible.

716 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:19am

re: #712 Ben Hur

Village Voice bringing Troogerism mainstream?

Rudy on the cover with the title "Guiliani's 5 lies about 9/11"


I saw that. They are gearing up for rabid GDS 08.

717 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:32am

re: #674 LanceKates

re: #657 Lucius Septimius

The role of the preacher has changed alot... it used to be a 'learned friend' who would study the things of God to lead the congregation as a shepard, in the path of the Good Shepard.

Nowdays, too many use it as a stump for limp-wristed whiny left wing touchy feeling hippie crap.

The left talk about those evil "Religious Right" people.... but alot of Christian Churches I've been in REALLY pander to the left. (Heck, one I was in used an example of 'when your enemy makes you walk a milke, walk two" and referred to a Pallie and an 'oppressive' israeli soldier forcing the pallie to move.)

Never hear too much hippie crap during a homily. In fact, my current pastor (was associate pastor at the time) even has given a homily warning about Islam and comparing it (unfavorably) to Christianity. He also railes against Christ being treated as a hippie-dippy type figure.

718 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:35am

re: #704 BenZacharia Ah, that explains it! I don't really recall the 70's all that well! LOL!

719 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:37am

re: #675 ploome hineni

Her nails are due for a trimming. Have not fertilized lately. No new food.

My wife does tend to use a lot of detergent when she does laundry.

720 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:40am

re: #701 realwest

re: #667 DesertSage LOL! Um shouldn't it me
John Fucking Murtha (tm) but as upperscript or whatever it's called?!

And so it shall be!

Let it be known that John Murtha, Colonel USMC is disavowed as a Marine...never to be a member of the Corps again from this day forward.

He shall now be known for the rest of his days as John Fucking Murtha&trade!

721 daughter of patriots  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:36:56am

Boston Big Dig news from the Globe:

New Focus on Powers, Inc., the company that supplied the EPOXY which held up tons of ceiling concrete in the tunnels under Boston:

"This is a case of apples and oranges," said Martin Levin, Powers' lead attorney at Stern Shapiro Weissberg and Garin in Boston. "The only potential link was that there was a complaint about fast-set. . . . Fast-set may have been used in the tunnel, but certainly Powers didn't know it" at the time. He noted that Powers documents supplied for the Boston job warned state highway engineers that fast-drying epoxy was not approved for overhead use.

But one lawyer involved in the civil lawsuits over the ceiling collapse said the Singapore documents might shed light on why the attorney general focused first on Powers, a relatively small player in the $14.6 billion Big Dig with 200 employees and annual revenue of $40 million. Though other, much larger companies involved in the tunnel ceiling failed to recognize that workers used the wrong epoxy, this lawyer said, Powers had direct knowledge that their fast-set epoxy was failing elsewhere.

"They knew there was a problem" in Singapore, said the lawyer, who asked not to be named because of a judge's order sealing most documents related to the accident. "But they said nothing" in Boston.

The Singapore documents could help Coakley prove that Powers acted with wanton and reckless disregard for safety, the legal standard required for a manslaughter conviction of a corporation, in remaining silent after questions arose about slippage of the ceiling bolts in summer and fall 1999.

/Apples and oranges, all right! Roman engineering 2,000 years ago built bridges, aqueduct and the Pantheon, still standing... The Big Dig is a catastrophe a few simple-minded Roman engineers could have solved. Heck, if we blame it on corrupt government, the Romans had their share of those, too!

722 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:37:01am

re: #708 NoSubmission

There was a bully in one school I went to who would always pick on others (myself included).

one day i said "You really piss me off."

I got in trouble.

723 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:37:03am

re: #710 LanceKates

On this idea, did anyone here read Wendy Shalitt's book on modesty when it came out? Wonder what folks thought of it -- some interesting stuff, but she struck me as immature, self-important, and neurotic as hell. But maybe that's because she was like 19 when she wrote the book.

BBL. Must make beds, vacuum, fold laundry ... you know, all the "manly arts"

724 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:37:04am

re: #714 LanceKates
I'm a South Park man myself.

725 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:37:56am

re: #670 realwest


3- Wood - hey there my friend - how are you doing this fine, albeit HOTTER THAN HELL, morning?!

If I were any better it would be illegal. How is your pain management going?

You ready to play 18 twice this weekend? You are going to go back to thumping it off the tee, your back is doing much better these last few days. I expect at least one round in the 70's out of you.

Did you see any highlights of the golf tournament stuff last night? Mickelson is starting to do the "Michelle Wie wrist grab" every time he gaaacks a shot. Hey Mickelson, you pussy, either play or go home, but stop this whiney "my wrist hurts" crap. My gosh, half the guys out there are playing hurt by this point in the season and you don't see all them mincing around like that.

Speaking of the tournament, John Daley was in 2nd place at the end of Day 1. I expect him to blow up today.

726 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:38:25am

re: #715 BenZacharia

Some of the punishments in the bible require that the punished have enough dignity and grace to accept punishment and recognize wrongdoing.

I really don't see it working anymore. It has become too 'cool' to hate cops and the law.

727 ec marm  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:38:43am

Oh for crying out loud. Comcast is here to replace my underground cable. Three young men. Not one of them seems to understand English. I'm trying to tell them that the cable is right over top of the electric line. "Deep?" is the only word they seem to be able to say.

Realwest: Legal question: Am I assuming any liability for these folks? I can't get them to understand a word I'm saying.

728 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:38:49am

re: #722 LanceKates
You know what I did? I ended calling one of the boys out for a fight after school. I threatened to kick his ass and he never showed up.

729 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:38:56am

re: #687 MandyManners


I am grateful that ours lets us stay in her house.

730 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:39:19am

Real....
so you can do the John F*cking MurthaTM thang.

< s u p >TM< / s u p > just remove spaces

731 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:39:51am

Keeping the faith

Locals refer to Mr. Simentov, 47, simply as "the Jew." Originally from the western city of Herat, he dons a yarmulke with his shalwar kameez and swears that "half of Kabul" knows him, though probably not for the reasons he would like to think.

His only other co-religionist in the country, Yitzhak Levin, died in January 2005. The pair lived together in the Flower Street synagogue through the Soviet invasion, the civil war and the Taliban regime.

snip

This was not always the case, Mr. Simentov said, explaining that there were more than 40,000 at the turn of the 19th century as Persian Jews fled from forced conversions in neighboring Iran.

The establishment of Israel in 1948 and the 1979 Soviet invasion combined to empty the community.

sigh.

732 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:39:54am

re: #716 NoSubmission "I saw that. They are gearing up for rabid GDS 08."
Are youse sure of that? It just seems like the old Village Voice to me (they never met a Democrat they wouldn't endorse over a Republican).

733 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:40:00am

re: #717 Honorary Yooper

Heh.. I like that church then.

There are some VERY good ones, but I'm afraid they're becomming a minority.

and even some good preachers that feel they must remain silent because of denomination regulations or a fear of splitting a congregation.

I seem to remember. in scripture, God taking an Israeli army and splitting it over and over until it was tiny... then doing GREAT things with it.

734 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:40:38am

re: #723 Lucius Septimius

I have not even heard of them. heh.

735 hayseed  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:40:47am

re: #711 realwest

realwest....went to my pain doc yesterday,looks like I'm gonna have to be operated on again. need to get 2 more discs fused.

736 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:41:07am

re: #724 NoSubmission

I do like south park. I didn't for a LONG time, but they've cleaned up a bit (as odd as that is for South park.. lol)

737 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:41:40am

re: #728 NoSubmission

Heh. I knew I liked you for a reason. *grin*

738 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:41:46am

re: #714 LanceKates

re: #700 NoSubmission

I still like Futurama and Family Guy.

Futurama's good - new episodes are coming out next year! But I gave up on Family Guy. The show's creator, Seth McFarlane, is a flaming moonbat. Besides, after that South Park episode, I realized that all the jokes, were in fact, interchangeable.

739 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:42:14am

re: #725 3 wood


How many beers do you think Daly drank last night?

740 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:42:16am

re: #703 ec marm
Interesting twisting of reality by the muslism to roil up their masses.
Just in time for Fri services, too.
Will there be riots?
When will the MSM and the lib enabelors see through this facade?
(It isn't even much of a facade, frankly.)

741 daughter of patriots  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:42:56am

re: #727 ec marm

Oh for crying out loud. Comcast is here to replace my underground cable. Three young men. Not one of them seems to understand English. I'm trying to tell them that the cable is right over top of the electric line. "Deep?" is the only word they seem to be able to say.

Realwest: Legal question: Am I assuming any liability for these folks? I can't get them to understand a word I'm saying.

I had same problem recently. Cancel the appointment, and demand an English-speaking technician. I got a vendored-out one. Not a Comcast employee, but true blue American who went the extra-mile in setting up new service for me.

742 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:43:14am

re: #738 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

lol... oh, I know... but I just like Stewie WAY too much to not watch that show anymore.

And I found that south park 2 parter to be great.. especially when Bart Simpson was involved.

743 republic  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:43:23am

re: #703 ec marm

Iran uses the press to keep the islamic masses seething. Remember the six incidents of 'acid bombs' being thrown in the Phoenix area? One was thrown at a mosque, which to any U.S. citizen looks like a residential home. Here's how Iran reports it:


US imam survives acid attack
Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:44:44
A mosque imam has survived an acid attack by unknown people in Glendale, Arizona, amid suspicions it was triggered by religious discrimination.
The imam is one of the six prayer leaders who have filed a lawsuit against US Airways after being forcibly removed from a flight last fall.

According to police reports, unknown assailants drove away after throwing a bottle of acid at the prayer leader, but missed the target.


source

Iran is concerned about "religious discrimination"?

My God, they hang apostates from cranes in Iran, and the cheesedicks in Iran are concerned about religious discrimination.

I say bomb them now!

744 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:02am

re: #699 3 wood

My jaw just hit the desk.

745 blue_like_jazz  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:14am

feeling pretty secure about my airport... NOT!


morning to all lizards and a special air-conditioned hug for realwest, my melting charlotte buddy! =)

746 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:17am

Stephen Glass Goes to War

Charles Krauthammer

Why did The New Republic run it?

Because it fits perfectly into the most virulent narrative of the antiwar Left. The Iraq war — “George Bush’s war,” as even Hillary Clinton, along with countless others who had actually endorsed the war, now calls it — has not only caused the sorrow and destruction that we read about every day. It has, most perniciously, caused invisible damage — now made visible by the soul-searching of one brave and gifted private: It has perverted and corrupted the young soldiers who went to Iraq, and now return morally ruined. Young soldiers like Scott Thomas Beauchamp.

747 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:32am

Bah. I'm not even gonna' try to catch up.

748 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:42am

re: #737 LanceKates
Their notes were truly sick. Budding psychopaths if you ask me. Wonder where those two losers are now.

749 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:44:56am

re: #725 3 wood My pain management is going quite well, thank you kindly! And yes, I'm ready for two rounds - long as they're on seperate days, anyway! LOL!
Glad to hear you're feeling well - how'd things go at your performance at the "senior" center or whatever it was properly called?

750 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:45:07am

re: #743 republic

My God, they hang apostates from cranes in Iran, and the cheesedicks in Iran are concerned about religious discrimination.

now now, don't ruin cheese for me. I happen to like Cheesesticks and I don't want the mental reference to Iranians.

Apologize to cheese please.

*grin*

(in respose to your post, it is pretty hypocritical of Iran to fear 'religious discrimination' . . . since it seems to be their MAIN TOOL)

751 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:45:35am

I love South Park.

For some reason Cartman's Joo issues make me laugh the hardest.

752 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:13am
753 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:20am

re: #736 LanceKates
South Park really takes it over the edge. Still funny as hell though. I like to talk to my dog Stuie in Cartman's voice.

754 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:22am

re: #748 NoSubmission

I'm guessing either politicians or in prison, depending on their charisma.

Or, if they're like an old high school classmate I ran into 5 years after high school, still wearing their high school letterman's jacket, working a minimum wage job, smelling of alcohol and talking about the 'good old days'

755 blue_like_jazz  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:48am

BTW... i was reading this thread back in the 150's range...

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned? i found him to be cranky and short-tempered, but interested as to why he got smacked with the banning stick.

//nosy nancy, i know i know

756 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:54am

re: #736 LanceKates

re: #724 NoSubmission

I do like south park. I didn't for a LONG time, but they've cleaned up a bit (as odd as that is for South park.. lol)

South Park is one of the few shows (or anything in popular culture) that are on the right side in the issue of our times - see Cartoon Wars, the 9/11 Truther episode, etc.

757 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:46:55am

WTF is wrong with the ABA?

WASHINGTON - The public could lose access to certain arrest and court records, even those of people convicted of serious crimes, under a proposal being considered by the nation's largest organization of lawyers.

An American Bar Association committee that drafted the proposal says ready access to court records has led to employment and housing discrimination against people who were arrested but never convicted of crimes or who have completed sentences and returned to society.

Media organizations say limiting public access to records, which would require changes to state and federal law, would violate the First Amendment and make it harder to expose misconduct by police and prosecutors.

The American Bar Association is expected to consider the measure next week at its annual meeting in San Francisco.

758 apachegunner  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:47:01am

re: #749 realwest Hey Realwest my friend, hows tricks?

759 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:47:04am

re: #706 realwest

re: #668 redstateredneck Hey Red! I be right heah! Where you be at?

I be's heah! How you doin' today {real}?

760 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:47:12am

re: #727 ec marm Nope, I don't see any legal liability for you trying to make these folks understand where their damned cable wire is located!
Um, long as you stick to verbal instruction, that is! LOL!

761 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:47:29am
All of these necessary revisions to surface temperatures will likely not make warming trends go away completely. What it may do is bring the warming down to match the much lower satellite measured warming numbers we have, and will make current warming look more like past natural warming trends (e.g. early in this century) rather than a catastrophe created by man. In my global warming book, I argue that future man-made warming probably will exist, but will be more like a half to one degree over the coming decades than the media-hyped numbers that are ten times higher.

Uh Oh.

[Link: hotair.com...]

762 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:47:34am

re: #751 Ben Hur

the episode where he demanded the 'Jew Gold' had me rolling... not just that he 'knew about it.' but knew about the 'fake bag' too..

Though, with all of his failings, his fight against the hippies will always gain him a few points in my book.

763 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:48:07am

re: #739 Endangered in MASS


How many beers do you think Daly drank last night?


At least a case. That's why he will blow up. I bet he's still drunk from last night. Of course, he's probably used to playing hammered.

Remember Bob Welch who used to pitch for the Dodgers years ago? I heard him on an interview once where he said his pre-game ritual involved downing a fifth of vodka before going to the bull pen to warm up.

764 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:48:07am

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

If no one answers, email me by clicking on my blue name. I'll fill you in off-thread.

765 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:48:43am

re: #746 Ben Hur

Stephen Glass Goes to War

Charles Krauthammer


Why did The New Republic run it?

Because it fits perfectly into the most virulent narrative of the antiwar Left. The Iraq war — “George Bush’s war,” as even Hillary Clinton, along with countless others who had actually endorsed the war, now calls it — has not only caused the sorrow and destruction that we read about every day. It has, most perniciously, caused invisible damage — now made visible by the soul-searching of one brave and gifted private: It has perverted and corrupted the young soldiers who went to Iraq, and now return morally ruined. Young soldiers like Scott Thomas Beauchamp.

The left, as I've said before, is trying to resurrect the "Messed Up Nam Vet" stereotype.

766 JollyJew  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:48:52am

Shabat Shalom to everyone.

767 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:49:00am

re: #753 NoSubmission

After watching their south Park movie, I couldn't stomach the show for a few seasons. That movie was just too wrong.

768 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:49:04am

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

He was continually posting hat tips to Rich. Boss went and read what he was saying other places and that's all it took.

769 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:49:15am

re: #730 BenZacharia
Ben, do you mean John Fucking Murtha TM?

770 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:49:39am

re: #717 Honorary Yooper

You must be in a good diocese. I've heard some doozies in the dioceses of Atlanta and Rochester.

771 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:49:43am

re: #756 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They, at least, understand that it is the LIBERALS in government that seek to censor them. Conservatives, they understand, will just change the channel.

772 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:50:15am
773 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:50:39am

re: #760 realwest

Never give it in writing when a handshake will do. Never shake hands when a wink and a nod will do...

Boston Pol's Credo.

774 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:50:40am

WOOT! Hey Sage, check out # 769!
Ben, thank you sooo much!
Now if only I remember that! LOL!

775 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:51:10am

re: #769 realwest

'Ats right.

776 redstateredneck  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:51:11am

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

BTW... i was reading this thread back in the 150's range...

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned? i found him to be cranky and short-tempered, but interested as to why he got smacked with the banning stick.

//nosy nancy, i know i know

Charles warned him the other day about constantly bringing up rayra and the other kids across the street. Must have not heeded the Lizard Master's advice.

777 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:51:22am

re: #733 LanceKates

re: #717 Honorary Yooper

Heh.. I like that church then.

There are some VERY good ones, but I'm afraid they're becomming a minority.

and even some good preachers that feel they must remain silent because of denomination regulations or a fear of splitting a congregation.

I seem to remember. in scripture, God taking an Israeli army and splitting it over and over until it was tiny... then doing GREAT things with it.

I go to a Catholic parish. Not quite as conservative as some, but not lefty either. It's a bit more pragmatic in this diocese. You never have to worry about splitting a congregation in a Catholic parish. It either is, or it isn't. If they go away, it's just to another parish where they can expect to encounter much the same thing. Usually, we change parishes due to the behavior or demeanor of a priest, but even then, we'd prefer to appeal to the bishop first.

778 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:52:05am

re: #772 ploome hineni


She's six or seven. I'll check her nails.

Thanks for the feedback.

779 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:52:10am

Judge rejects 'defensive jihad' argument in Padilla Trial

A cornerstone of the defense during the nearly three-month trial was the idea that Islamic teaching provides for legitimate "defensive jihad," which differs from terrorism because it is meant to counter aggression against Muslims and does not threaten innocent people.
780 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:52:54am

re: #735 hayseed SHIT. I'm really sorry to hear that my friend. Do you think you ought to get a second opinion about that surgery?

781 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:53:24am
782 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:53:33am

re: #762 LanceKates

re: #751 Ben Hur

the episode where he demanded the 'Jew Gold' had me rolling... not just that he 'knew about it.' but knew about the 'fake bag' too..

Though, with all of his failings, his fight against the hippies will always gain him a few points in my book.

It was great because he actually had it!

783 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:54:12am

re: #766 JollyJew

Shabat Shalom to everyone.

Boker effen Tov.

784 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:54:25am

re: #777 Honorary Yooper

Alot of it is, indeed, personal preference. what one won't like, another may.

My grandfather is catholic and he really feels a close connection through the mass.

I, on the other hand, get turned off by such things, and the ritual becomes an impedence to me.

That said, the structure of the Missouri Synod Lutheran service still appeals to me... especially the constant 'back and forth' between man's unworthiness and Christ's Sacrifice.

785 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:54:48am

Sorry ben hur,, didn't see your post on defensive jihad.
/blames Ajax

786 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:55:04am
787 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:55:21am

re: #782 Ben Hur

exactly.. lol.

788 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:55:43am

re: #782 Ben Hur

re: #762 LanceKates

re: #751 Ben Hur

the episode where he demanded the 'Jew Gold' had me rolling... not just that he 'knew about it.' but knew about the 'fake bag' too..

Though, with all of his failings, his fight against the hippies will always gain him a few points in my book.

It was great because he actually had it!

In the Cartoon Wars episode, Cartman yells at Kyle, "How would you feel if there was a cartoon on that made fun of Jews all the time?" Kyle turns to the viewer, as it were, with his jaw dropped.

789 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:55:51am

Hayseed

You are at least fortunate enough to have a spine to fuse.

On that subject, I hope some terminally ill conservative will leave theirs' to GWB.

790 willtay73  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:56:12am

Those kossacks got some crazy stuff going on at their site. Check out this link [Link: www.dkosopedia.com...]

They actually have Tag Librarians. I guess this is just the beginning of the creation of their communist state. The Tag Librarians will soon grow to be Political Officers spying on and monitoring the masses.

791 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:56:29am

re: #763 3 wood


One of the guys I play with can pound 'em. We were playing a couple of weeks ago. He bought 20 beers out with him and had to reload at the turn. File under reinforcing ethnic stereotypes. He's of Irish ancestry

792 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:56:31am

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

BTW... i was reading this thread back in the 150's range...

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned? i found him to be cranky and short-tempered, but interested as to why he got smacked with the banning stick.

//nosy nancy, i know i know

Mike C was banned because he was bad mouthing Charles over on GCP while maintaing his composure here. He used the nic "Mike C" in both places so it was easy for Charles to track him down. Foolish, IMHO.

I've done an analysis of what took place last year and got the GCP group banned. Rule #1 of commenting on a blog: Never attack the blog owner. They did, and they lost. Mike C was in China at the time, and missed the banning due to a difference in time. I suspect Charles was keeping an eye on him and his postings after that.

793 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:57:21am

re: #749 realwest

how'd things go at your performance at the "senior" center or whatever it was properly called?

Not bad, was actually 3 performances, one in the alzheimers unit, one in assisted living, on in the nursing home. It's neat how music can get through to some of these folks when nothing else can. One lady in alzheimers has just sat there for months and not said a word to anybody. Oblivious to the world.

I did Farewell to Tarwathie (an old whaling tune Judy Collins had a minor hit with in the 70's) and she suddenly sat up and sang every word. Then she leaned back in her chair and went back into her fog.

794 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:57:52am

re: #781 ploome hineni

If it makes it to the Supremes on appeal, at least 4 will accept the sharia argument. They have a history for looking at foreign laws to guide them.

795 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:58:12am

re: #788 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I missed that bit I think. Or, I was laughing too hard already to remember it.

Given that the two main characters are the two creators of South park, I wonder if they knew a "Cartman" when they were a kid.

796 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:58:28am

re: #758 apachegunner Hey Gunner! Tricks is ok, thank you very much. But I gotta lot of chores to do today - this whole week has been just a blur for me, chores after chores after chores. Damnit, I'm SUPPOSED to be retired!
LOL!
How's by you my friend?

797 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:58:40am

re: #779 NoSubmission


".....counter aggression against Muslims and does not threaten innocent people."

because we're all little Eichmans don't ya know!

798 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:58:49am

re: #784 LanceKates

I kind of like the Wisconsin Synod, but the closest one to us is about 50 miles away. Not a lot of Lutherans in these parts, except for ECLA types. I think most of those folks went to Stasi seminaries in the old GDR. Or wished they could have.

799 Miss Trixie  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:58:54am

&#9834 Good morning {LGF} &#9834

It's Friday! Yippee!

:D

800 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:59:45am

re: #792 Honorary Yooper

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

BTW... i was reading this thread back in the 150's range...

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned? i found him to be cranky and short-tempered, but interested as to why he got smacked with the banning stick.

//nosy nancy, i know i know

Mike C was banned because he was bad mouthing Charles over on GCP while maintaing his composure here. He used the nic "Mike C" in both places so it was easy for Charles to track him down. Foolish, IMHO.

I've done an analysis of what took place last year and got the GCP group banned. Rule #1 of commenting on a blog: Never attack the blog owner. They did, and they lost. Mike C was in China at the time, and missed the banning due to a difference in time. I suspect Charles was keeping an eye on him and his postings after that.

And it's not like he wasn't given ample warning. Charles can be remarkably patient.

801 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:59:59am

re: #755 blue_like_jazz

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned?

wow. I had no idea.

802 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:00:08am

re: #798 Lucius Septimius

I went to a wisconsin synod church for a month or two. It was nice and all.

I didn't like the closed communion to even another Lutheran, but again... personal preference.

803 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:00:38am

Good Friday morning all. I just read the Confederate Yankee post referenced in the last thread, about the Bradley driver supposedly running over dogs in Iraq.

That Beauchamp is one lying SOB, and TNR is suicidal for continuing to try to cover for him. They are toast.

804 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:01:09am

re: #764 LanceKates


Shoot me one too, please. I think you still have my addy.

805 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:01:16am

re: #800 Lucius Septimius

He'd been around for so long and really had been a good voice of reason on many things....

but you become who you hang out with... so to speak.

806 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:01:45am

re: #804 3 wood

sure will. I have martial arts tonight, so it may be late. heh.

807 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:02:04am

re: #803 Ward Cleaver

No, TNR isn't suicidal -- this will boost their street cred with the far left, who has been suspicious that TNR is a neocon organ for a long time. Hard to believe, I know, but that's what a lot of them think.

808 apachegunner  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:02:36am

re: #796 realwest
Chores? In this heat? You staying inside or playing golf and drinking beers as the page is speaking of?

809 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:04:15am

re: #791 Endangered in MASS


File under reinforcing ethnic stereotypes. He's of Irish ancestry


I'm always out-of-step-Charlie. I'm Irish (well partially) and I don't drink, don't even take cough medicine.

810 Geepers  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:04:23am

Honorary Yooper,

So what are your other nics?

811 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:05:20am

Lance.... Lucius...

If a Christian wants to be my friend, I ask them what their Church teaches them about the Covenants made in the Tanakh and G-ds chosen people.

Not to defend their position(s), just what are they.

Are they still in force?
Have they been transfered to the Church?
Is the Church the new Israel?
Who are G-ds chosen people?

813 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:05:55am

re: #793 3 wood God Bless You for your good deeds my friend. Seriously.

814 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:06:04am
815 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:06:59am

The South Park episodes - Cartoon Wars I & II - can be found at this link:

[Link: www.southparkzone.com...]

I watched both again just this past Wednesday. :)

816 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:07:26am

re: #799 Miss Trixie

%u266A Good morning {LGF} %u266A

It's Friday! Yippee!

:D

It sure is!

817 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:07:38am

re: #70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

on local Fox affiliate, re-run of "Cops", Tarrant County constables and Mansfield PD arresting D&D redneck in trailer park. Man has empties of MD 20/20.

Why the same people that make Mogen David Kosher Blackberry wine in Upstate NY would also make the preferred beverage of rural North Texas T.T., is just beyond me.

They're both sweet, made from grapes, and low-cost?

However I now have a funny image of Orthodox Jews cruising around bad neighborhoods in beat-up old GM cars with the stereo cranked, drinking MD20/20 out of paper bags, and hanging out at street corner convenience stores...

818 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:07:55am

re: #799 {Miss Trixie} Well good morning to you
*smooch* how are you this fine morning?

819 BenZacharia  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:09:05am

TTFNTM The world intrudes.

820 Geepers  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:09:22am

Cindy Sheehan’s Historic Announcement - Photos

Peace activist Cindy Sheehan cries while refering [sic] to her son Casey who was killed in Iraq in 2004, at a press conference where she announced she will run for Congress in San Francisco, California, August 9, 2007.

Should be fun.

821 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:09:35am

Illegals ponder leaving USA

Life is just so difficult.

''If the situation stays this way, not just me but maybe everyone will be leaving,'' Raimundo said.

González is already planning his departure.

''The only thing I'm waiting for is to make some money, because I don't want to go home empty-handed,'' he said. ``With all that's happening, I don't want to be here anymore.''

Buh-bye.

822 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:09:52am

re: #808 apachegunner Nope I'm staying inside and every once in a while I send up a prayer of thanks for Air Conditioning!

823 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:11:20am

re: #814 DesertSage

They bugged out after their highest ranked person in Iraq was targeted and killed in a bombing/building collapse, if I recall correctly.

824 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:12:20am

re: #810 Geepers Hey Good Morning Geepers!
How are you today?
And what make you think that Honorary Yooper
has other nic's?

825 equable  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:12:22am

Damn it, I am about tired of this.

"MONCKS CORNER, S.C. - Two Middle Eastern men arrested near a Navy base after police found a suspicious item in their car were charged today with possession of an incendiary device, authorities said."

CAIR maintains that they were racially profiled. Well no kidding! Besides: Arabs + things that go boom = mischief.

Seriously, can these CAIR boneheads hear themselves? Forget the fact that Arabs are a hell of a lot more likely to blow themselves (and everything around them) straight to hell. Let's obfuscate the matter and whine that they were treated unfairly. Let's eschew the fact that they actually did have explosives, and ignore the truth in the notion that there are countless reasons to profile Arabs. Yeah CAIR, whatever you do don't strive to get your lemmings under control.

This reminds me of "The Siege" with Denzel Washington. Arab blower-uppers aren't the real enemy; the division that our society causes and the alienation that the West perpetrates on those who would practice their arcane, third-world ideologies in relative peace are to blame.

I need another beer - or twenty.

826 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:13:00am

re: #792 Honorary Yooper

re: #755 blue_like_jazz


BTW... i was reading this thread back in the 150's range...

anyone with the story on why mike c. got banned? i found him to be cranky and short-tempered, but interested as to why he got smacked with the banning stick.

//nosy nancy, i know i know


Mike C was banned because he was bad mouthing Charles over on GCP while maintaing his composure here. He used the nic "Mike C" in both places so it was easy for Charles to track him down. Foolish, IMHO.

I've done an analysis of what took place last year and got the GCP group banned. Rule #1 of commenting on a blog: Never attack the blog owner. They did, and they lost. Mike C was in China at the time, and missed the banning due to a difference in time. I suspect Charles was keeping an eye on him and his postings after that.

That's pretty much pretty much my analysis, too, and I watched it all unfold on that Friday night last year.

827 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:13:41am

re: #765 Peacekeeper


100% correct.

And there's been a whole genre of Hollywood films, like Full Metal Jacket, that were based on Kerry's BS, and now influence a generation that knows nothing about history.

828 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:14:50am

re: #810 Geepers

Honorary Yooper,

So what are your other nics?

LOL! I've thought about a sock puppet when registration is open, something like: "Honorary Yooper is a Troll", but I haven't done it. I might never do it. I have only this one nic, BTW.

829 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:15:35am

re: #821 JammieWearingFool

Illegals ponder leaving USA

Life is just so difficult.

''If the situation stays this way, not just me but maybe everyone will be leaving,'' Raimundo said.
Gonz?z is already planning his departure.

''The only thing I'm waiting for is to make some money, because I don't want to go home empty-handed,'' he said. ``With all that's happening, I don't want to be here anymore.''


Buh-bye.

Laura Ingraham was talking about his on her show yesterday (one of her "Illegal Immigration Sob Story" segments), about how illegal aliens are sending less money back to Mexico, and are instead saving it.

830 vxbush  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:15:49am

I'm gone for two days and I come back to discover things are a bit different.

Hey, everyone.

Has anyone else been banned that I should be aware of besides Mike C? And is there a list of folks who have been banned? You know, I can refer to it like I do the obituaries and see if I've passed on.

831 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:16:13am
832 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:16:30am

re: #812 Carl in Jerusalem Good afternoon Carl!
I gotta tell you my friend, Israeli politics just leaves me totally dumbfounded and confused.
Seriously.
I know in the past you've tried to explain it to me (and very patiently, too I might add) and I thought I understood it. But I clearly don't. SO what if he got amnesty before, that shouldn't mean he can go on smuggling ammo and shit.
I. Just. Don't. Get. It. Truly.

833 blue_like_jazz  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:16:35am

BIG THANKS to everyone who answered my mike c. question! i had to run out so this is the 1st chance i've had to respond. too bad.


re: #811 BenZacharia

Lance.... Lucius...

If a Christian wants to be my friend, I ask them what their Church teaches them about the Covenants made in the Tanakh and G-ds chosen people.

Not to defend their position(s), just what are they.

Are they still in force?
Have they been transfered to the Church?
Is the Church the new Israel?
Who are G-ds chosen people?

according to blj...
1) yes
2) shared, i think
3) NO
4) the jews... we christians are grafted in to YOUR big, fat hebrew vine!

834 lonewulf1  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:16:44am

Is it any wonder that it's so hard to get the general public to wake up?

835 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:17:26am

Re: The UN soldiers

Maybe they would be more effective as an intimidating force if they got rid of the baby blue color ?

/I know. ;)

836 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:18:21am

Yo Endangered

837 vxbush  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:18:24am

re: #835 gettinby

Re: The UN soldiers

Maybe they would be more effective as an intimidating force if they got rid of the baby blue color ?

/I know. ;)

Pink sounds good to me. Make it even harder to take them seriously. Now, that military khaki color has always looked really serious to me.

838 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:19:25am

re: #814 DesertSage HEY SAGE! check out my #769 !

839 Geepers  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:20:31am

realwest (#824),

Well when someone says they think is "foolish" to post criticisms under their own nic, it makes me think that they believe that, and will only post their own criticisms under an alias.

840 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:21:18am

re: #813 realwest

God Bless You for your good deeds my friend. Seriously

.

Thanks, but God gave me the ability, I'm just using it for a while.

By the way, I should be able to send you our new CD in the fall. It's taking me a while to get the credits, notes and cover art stuff together.

841 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:21:43am
842 vxbush  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:21:46am

re: #839 Geepers

There is a way to criticize without doing so in such a way as to be a candidate for banning. It's hard, but it can be done.

843 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:21:51am

Taliban, Korean team to hold talks over hostages

Afghanistan's Taliban were set on Friday to hold their first face-to-face talks with a South Korean team over the 21 hostages the group is holding, a Taliban spokesman said.

The meeting will be held in an Afghan government-held area in Ghazni province and Kabul has guaranteed the safety of the Taliban negotiators, Qari Mohammad Yousuf said.

"The meeting will start after a short while. The team (Taliban) has gone to Ghazni on the basis of a written guarantee of the Kabul administration," Yousuf told Reuters by phone from an unknown location.

/I wonder how much this will cost us?

844 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:22:24am

#821 JWF

That was partly the aim all along. There was never any intention of "rounding up" people and "putting them on trains" like insincere left and right wing immigration advocates kept insisting. No rounding up of people, just removing the incentives for illegals to come and stay: Self deportation. But when you have an American President talking about "jobs American's are unwilling to do", instead of saying "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" one might understand our growing lack of work ethic. Even that asshole K.Rove said he never wants his kid working in a field. Of course we want better lives for ourselves and our kids. But it'd be nice to instill a bit of elbow grease, sweat and tears attitude in our young people BEFORE they assume their predictable service sector jobs.

845 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:22:48am

Mike C. was banned?

When did that happen?

846 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:23:16am

re: #811 BenZacharia

I'll be honest... that's a hard point for me... for reasons I won't get into on a public board.

I do believe that Israel is the Promised Land, as promised to Abraham and delivered via Moses to the Israelites.

I do believe that if the United States is to hold true to being a country with Christian morals/ethics, they must be and remain a country that will defend Israel.

I believe that God picked the Jews and set them apart as an example to the world of what He expects of his Creation.

As a Christian, I believe that God chose the Jews to give birth to the Christ, my salvation from sin, death and the power of the Devil.

There are issues that I have on a theological level regarding the Jewish faith. The issues are not a case of "Y'all are wrong and i'm right! hahahhha!" as much as just not knowing God's mind. (which is why I don't discuss them on a public board. heh.)

I know what I know, hope what I hope, believe what I believe, and will find out the full Truth upon death.

847 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:24:10am

re: #845 JammieWearingFool

Mike C. was banned?

When did that happen?

In this thread: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

848 LanceKates  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:24:17am

re: #845 JammieWearingFool

week or so ago.

849 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:24:29am

"I don't beleive it, because it's not happening."

Harry Reid won't listen to General Petraeus

850 3 wood  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:24:33am

With that, I've got work stuff to do. Catch you on the live ones.

851 gettinby  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:24:42am

re: #837 vxbush

Pink sounds good to me. Make it even harder to take them seriously.

LOL

Wouldn't that be in direct competition with the CodePinkies? :)

852 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:26:22am

re: #809 3 wood


I'm of Swedish ancestery and I don't like Lawrence Welk. Huppa Huppa Struppa! Go figure!

853 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:26:29am

I re: #312 JohnConnor

#301 anat

Thanks for posting about the 9/11 rally banned by Brussels' own Red Ken-type socialist mayor. 20,000 concerned citizens from across the EU were expected to protest the Islamisation of Europe, and the rally's suppression (because it might offend muslims and make them violent!) dramatically proves the seriousness of the problem.

This decision has enormous implications for free speech issues in Europe and the counterjihad movement in particular. Future historians may look back at this as a turning point: when you deny people the right to peaceful protest you inevitably put them on the road to more direct confrontation.

I can't believe that Charles has been ignoring this important story. Fortunately other bloggers like Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna -
[Link: www.gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...] - are on the case.

Why can't they just rally anyway? If thousands of people show up downtown on short notice, what's Belgian 5-0 going to do, turn the riot gear loose on all those people?

854 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:26:30am
855 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:26:52am

re: #838 realwest

re: #814 DesertSage HEY SAGE! check out my #769 !

Well done RW! I almost missed it.
Well....off to work.

856 vxbush  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:27:05am

re: #851 gettinby

re: #837 vxbush

Pink sounds good to me. Make it even harder to take them seriously.

LOL

Wouldn't that be in direct competition with the CodePinkies? :)

Oh, I don't know. I thought they mostly held the same beliefs: no war is just, let's just live and let live, and let's pick on Israel.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

857 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:27:44am

Hey Y'all - mom just heard a bit of FoxNews and heard them say something about the Fed and Australia pouring money into something, but she missed the something (LOL!)
Any of Y'all know what she's talking about?!

858 realwest  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:29:40am

re: #839 Geepers
Ah, I read that as meaning Mike C. shouldn't have posted at GCP under the nic Mike C.
But I may have been wrong or maybe Yooper doesn't post over there?!

859 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:30:12am

re: #849 Ben Hur,

Of course not. He's got too damn much invested in America losing the War in Iraq. But don't question his Patriotism just because he's cheering for the other side.

860 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:31:11am

BIG OIL IS RIPPING US OFF!

861 Roger  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:33:08am


Tiny Nuclear is ripping us off even more!

862 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:33:36am

re: #847 Honorary Yooper

re: #845 JammieWearingFool

Mike C. was banned?

When did that happen?

In this thread: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thanks. I'll check it out.

863 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:33:56am

re: #857 realwest

They're adding liquidity into the markets because they are crapping out over credit concerns in the subprime mortgage arena.

Never mind that the Fed could have prevented the meltdown if they so chose simply by dropping the interest rates on the fed funds rate by a quarter point - but they apparently believe that the markets are overpriced and that the real estate market needs to shake out a bit. So, the subprimes and adjustables are going to continue to be hit hard.

864 vxbush  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 8:34:06am

re: #854 ploome hineni

re: #842 vxbush<