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Thursday Overnight Thread

Thu, Aug 9, 2007 at 9:40:50 pm PDT

As day turns to night, and the lonesome yell of the coyote echoes over the high desert, here’s an overnight open thread...

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1 Caliredst8r  8/09/07 9:42:24 pm reply quote

Just in time for bed

2 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:43:11 pm reply quote

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

3 DesertSage  8/09/07 9:44:50 pm reply quote

I like the high desert!

4 RTLM  8/09/07 9:45:22 pm reply quote

Wolves make much better howlers. Coyotes just sort of "yipe yipe yipe" as a group.

5 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:45:28 pm reply quote

The high desert?

Dude take the mothership back to the beach please!

6 Caliredst8r  8/09/07 9:45:28 pm reply quote

Meep, meep!

7 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:46:46 pm reply quote
As day turns to night

Time.

8 Sharmuta  8/09/07 9:46:51 pm reply quote
As day turns to night, and the lonesome yell of the coyote echoes over the high desert, here’s an overnight open thread...

Can we round that out some more? We have starlight and campfire too, yes?

/Let's make smores!

9 psaturn  8/09/07 9:47:12 pm reply quote

You are in the high desert ?

I am in the LOW desert !

Let me know ! I can take you to a treat !

10 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:47:13 pm reply quote

And the coyotes around here don't seem very lonesome. They frequently sound, uh, much more involved then lonesome. And there sure are a lot of pups come spring.

11 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:48:28 pm reply quote

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there

made a few more commas for tfk and sat?

/can't remember the nics of all the comma addicts

12 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 9:48:43 pm reply quote

re: #2 Dublin(CA)Dude

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

WELL, They are across the road in the 600 acre pasture in front of the house, and packs of them running and yelping on the back 40 here in the deep South... Dublin Dude, my dogs going nuts when they start yelping at the trains in the distance,...heh heh...they get unbelievably loud...

13 bosforus  8/09/07 9:48:53 pm reply quote

And if you're looking for some coyotes for target practice, might I suggest these?

14 itellu3times  8/09/07 9:49:21 pm reply quote

Open Doctor Memory!

15 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:50:07 pm reply quote

Oh, that reminds me of the nutty woman in the line ahead of me at Wal*Mart the other day. She went on and on about my need to get batteries for The Kid's new, big-ass, brass clock. I told her a few times (then, I just ignored her--she really was obsessed) that I had the "C" batteries at home.

Dagnabit. I was wrong. Wrong. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

16 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:50:54 pm reply quote

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17 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:51:47 pm reply quote

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18 Akiva Tzippor  8/09/07 9:52:27 pm reply quote

Ron Paul!

19 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:52:31 pm reply quote

Saturday is the Murder, She Wrote marathon on the Hallmark Channel.

Heaven!

20 FQ Kafir  8/09/07 9:52:44 pm reply quote

Is Charles channeling Art Bell?

21 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 9:53:16 pm reply quote

Here Chen, Chen, Chen!

22 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:53:27 pm reply quote

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23 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 9:53:28 pm reply quote

I number 22

24 DesertSage  8/09/07 9:53:51 pm reply quote

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25 IslandLibertarian  8/09/07 9:53:55 pm reply quote

High desert?
Carlos Castaneda?
Stay away from mirrors!

26 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:54:10 pm reply quote

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27 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:54:20 pm reply quote

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28 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 9:54:47 pm reply quote

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re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

That's Mister to you

29 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:55:05 pm reply quote

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30 DesertSage  8/09/07 9:55:09 pm reply quote

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31 MandyManners  8/09/07 9:55:16 pm reply quote

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32 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:56:13 pm reply quote

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33 SgtSongdog  8/09/07 9:56:39 pm reply quote

Is this the coyote thread?

Oh, boy! Where's the lamb shish-kabobs?

34 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:56:50 pm reply quote

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35 unclassifiable  8/09/07 9:56:57 pm reply quote

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36 Sharmuta  8/09/07 9:58:12 pm reply quote

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37 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 9:58:51 pm reply quote

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38 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 9:59:06 pm reply quote

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #12 BODYGUARDEAGLE

I grew up in NYC, so living here in suburban San Francisco, I'm just amazed at the wildlife that exist amid so much development. A few hundred acres of open space and the coyotes and turkeys just thrive. And I'm talking about packs of coyotes and 70-80 turkeys at a time invading the local residences.

When I was growing up, my idea of wildlife was pigeons and rats. Nice change.


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Dublin Dude, I grew up in the Deep South,[Alabama], and wild Turkeys were for hunting, and the Coyotes had actually just started migrating BACK in to our areas, they had all been killed as predators and pest in the late 40's and early 50's..
After 20 years or so of unchecked breeding and cross-breeding with loose pets and wild dogs, they are getting HUGE in our rural area. I've shot two in the last year as big as big German Shepherds, that looked more like wolves. One had just killed a baby calf in the big pasture across the road as I watched, and then ran to get my rifle to dispatch it.

39 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 9:59:30 pm reply quote

re: #31 MandyManners

re: #26 unclassifiable

re: #23 coquimbojoe

Miss

Miss? Ah, you sexist pig! It's Ms.

I'm old fashioned.

40 SgtSongdog  8/09/07 9:59:43 pm reply quote

The songdog lurks on the periphery of the flock. He is hungry, but he is patient.

He watches to see who falls behind.

41 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:00:06 pm reply quote

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42 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:00:09 pm reply quote

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43 DesertSage  8/09/07 10:00:16 pm reply quote

re: #34 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #24 DesertSage

I don't live in SF, I live in Dublin, 25 miles SE of SF and 25 miles NE of San Jose.

But...they do have turkeys in SF?

44 IslandLibertarian  8/09/07 10:00:46 pm reply quote

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45 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:01:10 pm reply quote

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46 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:01:20 pm reply quote

re: #27 MandyManners

re: #17 Dublin(CA)Dude

Keep your cats inside. I lost a cat to a mountain lion near Denver a while back.

Mandy, I've lost some really good rural country farm cats to the coyotes, and I mean these cats were domestics, but big Thoms, that were the killers of the farm rodents themselves.

47 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:01:46 pm reply quote

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48 Noam Sayin'  8/09/07 10:01:59 pm reply quote

Hear that lonesome whipporwill...

I was tempted to put up the Hank Sr. version, but LeAnn is much purtier.

Okay, here's Hank.

49 Beagle  8/09/07 10:02:06 pm reply quote

Libya admits torturing nurses...
BBC puts "torture" in scare quotes even though it's the younger Gaddafi admitting they used electricity.

50 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:02:41 pm reply quote

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51 Magalaga Ding Dong  8/09/07 10:02:41 pm reply quote

Bluuuuue shadows on the traaaaaaaaail....
Soft wind blowin' through the treeeees abooooooove...

/Martin Short, 3 Amigos

Night, Lizardz

52 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:03:14 pm reply quote

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53 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:04:03 pm reply quote

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54 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:04:16 pm reply quote

re: #33 SgtSongdog

Is this the coyote thread?

Oh, boy! Where's the lamb shish-kabobs?

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SGTsongdog, we're just discussing the aggravations of another pest such as the Leftist and 'Troofers' lol

55 DesertSage  8/09/07 10:05:20 pm reply quote

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56 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  8/09/07 10:05:39 pm reply quote

Disturbance near Jamaica could threaten Western GOMEX coast mid-week, probably neat Tampico, but South Party Island, TX not 100% in the clear.

Environment Canada model forecasts biggie in the Gulf. However, as a caveat, the Canadian model was programmed by crack smokers.

57 NY Nana  8/09/07 10:05:58 pm reply quote

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58 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:06:04 pm reply quote

re: #47 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #38 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The local coyotes are still rather small, and still very shy and avoid contact with humans as much as possible. I hope that doesn't change.

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Dublin Dude, thats the way i remember them when i was a kid, but they have progressively gotten bigger....and less afraid of humans and Guard dogs, and the herd dogs,

59 abolitionist  8/09/07 10:06:17 pm reply quote

More victims found in US bridge collapse
10 Aug 2007 01:39:50 GMT

MINNEAPOLIS, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Authorities said on Thursday that searchers have found the remains of more victims in the wreckage of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, raising the total death toll so far to at least eight.

One of the victims was identified as 47-year-old Peter Hausmann of Rosemount, Minnesota, who had been among the eight listed as missing and presumed dead following the Aug. 1 collapse of the Interstate 35W bridge into the Mississippi River.

Remains of other victims besides Hausmann were also found, Minnesota Department of Public Safety spokesman Christine Krueger said, without being more specific.
[snip]

Peter Hausmann + more victims. That's as specific as this story gets. Doesn't the public have a right to know how many?

60 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:06:24 pm reply quote

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61 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:06:32 pm reply quote

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62 Beagle  8/09/07 10:06:49 pm reply quote

Yale expert: Not enough known about anti-Semitism

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Across 10 European countries, Small and Kaplan conducted a telephone survey of 5,000 respondents, asking them about issues of classical anti-Semitic stereotypes and about anti-Israeli views. "There were questions about whether the IDF purposely targets children, whether Israel poisons the Palestinians' water supply - these sorts of extreme mythologies," Small says.

The study found that Europeans who are extremely anti-Israel are also disproportionately anti-Semitic. "The people who believed the anti-Israel mythologies also tended to believe that Jews are not honest in business, have dual loyalties, control government and the economy, and the like," Small says. The correlation is an astonishing 56%. That is, an Israel-hating European is 56% more likely to be anti-Semitic as well than the average European.

"This is extraordinary. It's off the charts," says Small. "If a food or a drug was 56% more likely to cause cancer, it would be taken off the shelf."
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63 MikeySDCA  8/09/07 10:06:56 pm reply quote

Fox ran a clip from Cindy Sheehan announcing her run against Nancy Pelosi. Cindy cited the U. S. Constitution regarding impeachment. I did a little research on her citation. She got it wrong, really wrong.

I realized that I had misappreciated this bitch. I had thought her garden-variety suburban dumb with a lot of falling in love with the camera. I was wrong.

She is STUPID!

64 IslandLibertarian  8/09/07 10:06:58 pm reply quote

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65 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:07:17 pm reply quote

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66 NY Nana  8/09/07 10:07:57 pm reply quote

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67 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:08:44 pm reply quote

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68 SgtSongdog  8/09/07 10:08:56 pm reply quote

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69 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:09:00 pm reply quote

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70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  8/09/07 10:09:29 pm reply quote

on local Fox affiliate, re-run of "Cops", Tarrant County constables and Mansfield PD arresting D&D redneck in trailer park. Man has empties of MD 20/20.

Why the same people that make Mogen David Kosher Blackberry wine in Upstate NY would also make the preferred beverage of rural North Texas T.T., is just beyond me.

71 NY Nana  8/09/07 10:09:55 pm reply quote

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72 Student of Objectivism  8/09/07 10:10:07 pm reply quote

Dear Lizards,

You may be interested in this:

Neoconservative Foreign Policy: An Objectivist Perspective

From The Objective Standard, entitled Neoconservative Foreign Policy: An Autopsy by Yaron Brook and Alex Epstein

Thanks

73 Poimanester  8/09/07 10:10:08 pm reply quote

I live in the high desert. It's my property. Mountain lion couldn't hold it. Too bad, so sad.

74 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  8/09/07 10:10:28 pm reply quote

re: #56 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

75 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:10:46 pm reply quote

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76 ploome hineni  8/09/07 10:11:00 pm reply quote

meanwhile

Aug. 10, 2007 2:25 | Updated Aug. 10, 2007 2:34
Israeli testifies in terror funding case
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

Prosecutors and lawyers for a Muslim charity accused of funding terrorists clashed Thursday over whether jurors should see documents that Israeli soldiers seized during raids of Palestinian organizations.

An Israeli agent testified about the documents during the trial of five leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development.

The agent was not identified, and before he testified the courtroom was cleared of spectators except the families of the defendants. Spectators were allowed in another room to listen to the proceedings.

Prosecutors believe the documents seized by Israeli soldiers will show that the Holy Land leaders knew they were sending millions of dollars to groups controlled by Hamas, which is illegal because the US government calls Hamas a terrorist organization.

Defense attorneys tried to cast doubt on the authenticity and significance of the documents, which included pamphlets, brochures and posters that are presumably pro-Hamas. Jurors didn't see the documents because the judge had not ruled by late Thursday on whether to allow them into the case.

In filings before the trial, prosecutors said documents seized from the security offices of the Palestinian Authority contained information on Hamas's funding, including from Holy Land.
Defense lawyers suggested that the evidence did not meet the standards for trial in a US court.

Linda Moreno, one of the defense lawyers, asked the Israeli agent whether his soldiers had warrants when they raided Palestinian charities called zakat committees, orphanages and the Palestinian Authority. Prosecutors objected, and Federal District Judge A. Joe Fish upheld their protest.

"You're not contending that the Fourth Amendment applies outside the United States, are you?" Fish asked Moreno, referring the US Constitution's protection against unreasonable search and seizure. The judge said he did not see the relevance of whether the soldiers had warrants.

77 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:12:04 pm reply quote

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78 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:12:09 pm reply quote

re: #68 SgtSongdog

re: #54 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Hmm. Hope this works -- first time I've tried the new "reply" feature.

Agreed about all three pests, but someone has to defend my namesake!

/indignant

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SGTSongdog......many on here will get your back, and help defend the SGT's namesake, i'm sure... lol

79 Noam Sayin'  8/09/07 10:12:15 pm reply quote

G'night, all!

80 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:12:26 pm reply quote

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81 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  8/09/07 10:13:10 pm reply quote

Maybe the ampersands in the URL mess up the linkage.

Go here, [Link: www.weatheroffice.gc.ca...] , and pick your own forecast time.

82 MrArchieBunker  8/09/07 10:13:38 pm reply quote

I was overjoyed to hear about the reputations of those 2 Marines being restored today. The Haditha 'massacre' was a fraud and a hoax from day 1, brought to you by the very same vermin who brought you the Jenin 'massacre'. Just when all the PC garbage begins to get on your nerves and your Psyche, good news arrives. I am self deleting comments about Murtha and Tim McGirk.

83 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:13:56 pm reply quote

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84 Highrise  8/09/07 10:13:57 pm reply quote

re: #2 Dublin(CA)Dude

Hell, the coyotes echo over my back fence, never mind the high desert.

I will take coyote's any day than frogs.

/snicker

85 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:14:00 pm reply quote

re: #70 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

on local Fox affiliate, re-run of "Cops", Tarrant County constables and Mansfield PD arresting D&D redneck in trailer park. Man has empties of MD 20/20.

Why the same people that make Mogen David Kosher Blackberry wine in Upstate NY would also make the preferred beverage of rural North Texas T.T., is just beyond me.

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LMAO..........ED>>>>>>>> IT's Redneck CHEAP ! lol............

86 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:15:05 pm reply quote

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87 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:15:28 pm reply quote

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #46 BODYGUARDEAGLE

The one I lost found me the night that Lt. Col. Oliver North spoke in Seattle back in the late 1980s. This cat had survived in a nasty urban environment.

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Mandy, Thats a shame, made it in the hard city, but in the WILD, it IS a different story altogether....

88 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 10:15:47 pm reply quote

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89 SgtSongdog  8/09/07 10:16:04 pm reply quote

My dad recently forwarded an email newsletter from Dick Armey's blog, that said their online poll showed Ron Paul with 56% of the vote.

The RonPaulistas are legion! And spamming!

I told dad to disregard all online "polls".

90 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:16:28 pm reply quote

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91 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:17:04 pm reply quote

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92 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:17:20 pm reply quote

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93 Steve  8/09/07 10:17:47 pm reply quote

I used to go coyote hunting when I was a kid. They were very fast learners.
We would build a fire and wait in the shadows against a tree until we say the glow of their eyes.
We would then shoot between their eyes.
This worked fine for about the first 4 hours.
After that we kept coming up shy with carcasses.
Stumped at why this was happening we decided to get a portable spotlight and see what was going on.
When their beady little eyes appeared again we immediately put the spot light on them. Much to our surprise they had bee putting their heads close together and then closing their outside eyes.
We had been shooting between them.
Smart little critters.

94 coquimbojoe  8/09/07 10:18:08 pm reply quote

re: #91 MandyManners

re: #88 coquimbojoe

Where's the accented syllable?

Kim, I guess. I have been called that since '84, so I haven't really thought of it.

95 Salem  8/09/07 10:18:21 pm reply quote

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96 Highrise  8/09/07 10:18:22 pm reply quote

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97 Highrise  8/09/07 10:18:51 pm reply quote

re: #89 SgtSongdog

My dad recently forwarded an email newsletter from Dick Armey's blog, that said their online poll showed Ron Paul with 56% of the vote.

The RonPaulistas are legion! And spamming!

I told dad to disregard all online "polls".


TOO funny.

98 Beagle  8/09/07 10:18:51 pm reply quote

#86 MandyManners

Or at least not reward them with nuclear power and other goodies like France.

99 Poimanester  8/09/07 10:19:22 pm reply quote

#93

Steve,

How much you want for that bridge?

100 Ringo the Gringo  8/09/07 10:19:31 pm reply quote

Earlier today it was 9, then 20, now it's 50: Over 50 killed in southern Philippines fighting

MANILA (Reuters) - Philippine troops shelled Muslim rebel positions and raked them with helicopter fire overnight on the southern island of Jolo after a day of intense fighting in which at least 54 people, including 26 troops, were killed.

The fighting which broke out on Thursday morning is the heaviest in the volatile Philippine south for almost three years, but the military said it suspended operations at daybreak on Friday following a request from the provincial governor.

"We got a call from Governor Abdusakur Tan to suspend operations because of the Muslim holiday," said Major-General Ruben Rafael, the local military commander. "We have agreed."

101 MandyManners  8/09/07 10:19:51 pm reply quote

Sandman's calling.

102 Highrise  8/09/07 10:19:57 pm reply quote

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103 Highrise  8/09/07 10:20:20 pm reply quote

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104 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  8/09/07 10:21:03 pm reply quote

What holiday are the Musselmen celebrating?

105 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:21:38 pm reply quote

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106 BODYGUARDEAGLE  8/09/07 10:22:19 pm reply quote

Well, It's time to say "Goodnight all", I've got to leave early in the morn, on a drive for Chesapeake,Virginia, from Alabama. [long drive]-sigh-... enjoy the Wild animal thread fine folks
....catch you all later...

107 Highrise  8/09/07 10:23:07 pm reply quote

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108 Salem  8/09/07 10:23:25 pm reply quote

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109 Dublin(CA)Dude  8/09/07 10:23:39 pm reply quote

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110 unclassifiable  8/09/07 10:24:04 pm reply quote

yes yes time for the grave yard shift

yabba dabba do

sliding down the brontosaurs' tail

and onto bed

aloha

111 Highrise  8/09/07 10:26:46 pm reply quote

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112 Beagle  8/09/07 10:27:43 pm reply quote

Florida: Padilla Judge Says No to ‘Defensive Jihad’

Jurors in the trial of Jose Padilla and two other men cannot consider whether the men’s actions were justified by Islamic law, a federal judge ruled. The judge, Marcia G. Cooke of Federal District Court, agreed to a request from prosecutors to instruct the jurors that each of the men could be convicted even if they “may have believed that the conduct was religiously, politically or morally required, or that ultimate good would result.” A cornerstone of the defense during the nearly three-month trial has been the idea that Islamic teaching provides for legitimate “defensive jihad.” Mr. Padilla and his co-defendants, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi, are charged with being part of a North American terrorism support cell.


Whew!

Florida not a sharia state this week.

113 SgtSongdog  8/09/07 10:28:54 pm reply quote

Even at 1:30am local time (EST) the thread is going to fast for me. Back to lurking around the perimeter.

I love this blog. Reading the comments always gives me a chuckle, gives me insight, renews my faith, and sometimes even teaches me something.

And Ed-of-the-many-names *Songdog waves across the Internet* Don't you ever stop giving us the weather reports! Tell me one other blog that has their own weatherman!

G'nite, all.
Songdog out.

114 Salem  8/09/07 10:28:56 pm reply quote

re: #105 Dublin(CA)Dude

re: #95 Salem

I remember the moose at Yellowstone to be somewhat aggressive. Fortunately, I had a serious telefoto lens on my cam, so I could keep a good distance and still get some great shots. The buffalos were another story, totally unpredictable.

My Dad said at the time that it's a good thing I didn't try to take a picture of the moose when he was so close up because he might have charged me. But this one just came right up to me like "Hey, how ya doin'? You folks having fun at the park? Well, good. Don't forget to visit Old Faithful. Ciao!"

115 DesertSage  8/09/07 10:29:45 pm reply quote

Cindy Sheehan is a Sissie.

Why is she wasting her time running for an office that makes her only one of 535. She should set her sights a little higher, she should run for president!

Sheehan/Kucinich '08

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