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Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 2:30:26 pm PDT

Iran’s designated madman president said today that the only salvation for mankind is the rule of Islam.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.

President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam. He said that the world is on verge of a great upheaval and ulama at this juncture shoulder a heavy responsibility that is introducing genuine Islam as it is.

“Nations today have no haven but religion,” the Iranian president announced, cautioning Muslim nations against enemies’ divisive plots. He said, “All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks.”

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1 P. Aaron  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:32:06pm

Our only 'salvation' is to rid ourselves of that idiot.

2 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:32:48pm

Mars is available.

3 Lazarus  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:33:22pm

And we will lovingly caress the self-imposed shackles of realpolitik.

4 stuck in california  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:33:48pm

Hey Mamoud, come here, I got something for ya'!

5 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:34:06pm

Yeah, whatever, Bush said "God" in a speech once, so he's much much worse!

/you know

6 smalls  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:34:06pm

Something wicked, this way comes.

7 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:34:41pm
President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam

Culture of materialism and selfishness"

So the Iranians are inching away from the United Emirates?

8 Cicero05  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:34:52pm
President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity

I've seen islam. I'll stick with materialism and selfishness, thanks.

9 me  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:35:41pm

you know, it probably would be easier to just 'submit'.

But forgetaboutit!

10 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:36:34pm
Iran’s designated madman president said today that the only salvation complete and sudden death for mankind is the rule of Islam.

There...fixed it for ya.

11 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:36:54pm

Bring it on, MFer. In the immortal words of Captain Parker, "If they mean to have a war, let it begin here".
Wars are never nice, but unless these moslem vermin are shown that we will not bow, they'll keep up with this slow death by a thousand cuts, like instituting sharia, "toleration" to the exclusion of dhimmis, the denigration of Judaism and Christianity, etc..
We must draw a line in the sand and tell these bozos that we will NOT cross that line. Perhaps, the EU has, but we shan't.

Time for the St. Crispin's Day speech?

12 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:36:58pm

No, I am pretty sure Sura 109 said its the Hindu we need to be afraid of.

13 Dustyvet  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:06pm

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

Drop by sometime Mr. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, got some folks I'd like you to meet...Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson, and Mr. Colt.

14 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:13pm

re: #2 abolitionist

Mars is available.

I'd prefer he go to Venus. More like Hell, if you get my drift. ;-)

15 Joe Mama  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:22pm

an-delusional dreams of an evil dwarf

16 cpuller  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:35pm

Every time I see that guy I look for a cartoon bunny or duck that is beating him over the head with a frying pan. Somewhere a insane asylum is looking for their most disturbed patient.

17 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:41pm

The problem with the world is that Islam should rule the world?

That's funny, because I think the problem with Islam is that it thinks it should rule the world.

/and if I had said to my LLL acquaintance that Islam is bent on world domination, they'd call me a racist.

Wonder what they'll say if I'm just quoting Dinnerjacker verbatum? What am I thinking? They'll say: Misquoted, not representative, we-do-it-too.

18 zenren  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:37:49pm

Oh, he doesn't really mean it. Really. Truly.

19 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:38:25pm
20 Render  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:38:25pm

I'm not giving up my F150 Lightning.

SO
THERE,
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21 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:38:43pm

And the response of the West to this?

Talk softly and carry a big stick?

or

Talk like a girly man and put on a pink skirt?

22 GenesiusMMVI  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:38:58pm

Lighten up, DinnerJacket

/Sgt. Hulka out

23 me  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:39:04pm

but ... doesn't he sport a nice moustache?

24 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:39:09pm

re: #5 Occasional Reader

Yeah, whatever, Bush said "God" in a speech once, so he's much much worse!

/you know

Yes, of course, Bush is a Christian. Christian gangs roam about our cities spreading materialism from their "GodSquard" Vans. Their selfish Rescue Missions, shameful, just shameful!

25 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:39:38pm
26 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:03pm

A tomohawk, dropped on every one of the Ruling Council and the IRG, above, say, the rank of sergeant, would have a wonderful effect in terms of clearing the air. "Well, punk are you feeling lucky?"

27 mondoreb  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:06pm

Ahmadinejad!

gesundheit

28 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:17pm
29 stuiec  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:22pm

A sign of an immature religion, one that hasn't yet accommodated itself to the idea that not everyone will spontaneoustly see its Truth and conform themselves to its Way.

The problem for Islam today is that, with modern weapons, there may not be many Muslims left after this strain of fundamentalist imperialism burns itself out.

30 Paul  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:54pm

This freak is dangerous; he means what he says, just like Hitler or Stalin.

31 cpuller  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:40:58pm

Mr. Aminejinhead,

Ssss, Don't Tread On Me.

32 mondoreb  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:41:24pm

re: #19 MandyManners

HAHAHAHA

33 Cicero05  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:41:28pm

We still owe Ahmadinejad something for taking our folks hostage, don't we?

34 GenesiusMMVI  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:41:44pm

Sadly, a front will never be opened where it should...at this guys palace.

35 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:41:47pm
36 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:41:56pm

If Islam ruled the world
it's what I'd like to see
'Cause everyone in the world
Would take a back seat to me.
I wouldn't have to drive--
I wouldn't have to steer--
'Cause all would bow down before me
In total abject fear.
All the gorgeous dames
Would worship at my feet!
Why--I could have any one of them I want!
Even Meryl Steep!
I'd have complete respect
Of everyone on the planet
Including intellectuals,
Even David Mamet.


(with apologies to MST3K)

37 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:05pm

re: #29 stuiec

A sign of an immature religion, one that hasn't yet accommodated itself to the idea that not everyone will spontaneoustly see its Truth and conform themselves to its Way.

The problem for Islam today is that, with modern weapons, there may not be many Muslims left after this strain of fundamentalist imperialism burns itself out.

OR...there may not be many Muslims left after this strain of fundamentalist imperialism gets a nuke and burns itself along with us out...

38 Carol Herman  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:07pm

Yeah. Ruled by crap that has nothing to do with religion. Or peace.

Very likely this monkey-ahm-in-adinner-jacket; has clamped down at "home" because his popularity is waning.

Though he seems to know how to squeeze headlines out of the New Yuk Times, and the BBC. To name a few fish wraps no longer attached to reality, either.

As to Islam, just you wait. Kickbacks are a bitch. Those 5-times-a-day floor kissers aren't about to rule all that much, anyway. They'll be pretty much stuck in that position, hoping all the bullets fly over their heads.

39 cpuller  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:31pm

re: #19 MandyManners

Oh, shut up and eat your fries, short-shit.

Great!

40 blackpajamas  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:34pm

Start the "morale-bombing" of Tehran now.

41 Cicero05  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:46pm

A-jad envisions a world where EVERYONE gets additional screening by the TSA.

42 gearhead  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:48pm

Subsistence-level economics, court-ordered beheadings, and thought police would be a rather loose definition of salvation.

43 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:51pm

Now, as a Christian, I think the only hope for the world is Jesus Christ. But I would never see it as

rule of Islam over mankind

One is a gift you accept.

Or not.

The other is slavery you accept, or else.

44 GregInSeattle  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:42:56pm

These are two fundamentally opposite views of the world.

In Islam, Islam must dominate and control to impose God's will. It's a control cult.

In Christianity, God gives you freedom, and allows you to live as you want, with Judgement at your earthly end.

45 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:43:06pm

Over my cold corpse.

46 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:43:56pm

re: #42 gearhead

Subsistence-level economics, court-ordered beheadings, and thought police would be a rather loose definition of salvation.

Subsistence-level? You give'em WAY too much credit.

47 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:44:21pm

He attacked the soil of the United States of America.

Whats was our weak response?
Have we done shit to this guy in almost 30 YEARS.
Now he is close to getting nukes.
Are response?
"Hey. Maybe he can help us with security in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Why shouldn't he think he can kick the idea of America in the trash can.

Who exactly are the crazy ones? Him?
Or us?

48 Logic  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:44:28pm

Heh - They're so cute when they reveal their true intentions...

49 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:44:41pm

re: #38 Carol Herman

Yeah. Ruled by crap that has nothing to do with religion. Or peace.

Very likely this monkey-ahm-in-adinner-jacket; has clamped down at "home" because his popularity is waning.

Though he seems to know how to squeeze headlines out of the New Yuk Times, and the BBC. To name a few fish wraps no longer attached to reality, either.

As to Islam, just you wait. Kickbacks are a bitch. Those 5-times-a-day floor kissers aren't about to rule all that much, anyway. They'll be pretty much stuck in that position, hoping all the bullets fly over their heads.

I really enjoy reading your posts. Always terrific.

50 insanity police  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:44:48pm

Send him to Allah! The world will be better off.

51 jcm  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:45:18pm

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

I WILL NOT BE RULED MY ISLAM!

52 gearhead  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:45:37pm

re: #46 Oh no...Sand People!

I am, of course, including UN assistance in my definition of 'Islamic rule'.

53 Cicero05  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:45:49pm

re: #47 hous bin pharteen

He attacked the soil of the United States of America.

Whats was our weak response?
Have we done shit to this guy in almost 30 YEARS.
Now he is close to getting nukes.
Are response?
"Hey. Maybe he can help us with security in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Why shouldn't he think he can kick the idea of America in the trash can.

Who exactly are the crazy ones? Him?
Or us?

Hillary will kick his ass.

/snort

54 Dustyvet  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:46:15pm

This clown needs a good dose of Thorazine

[Link: images.scotsman.com...]

55 jcm  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:46:33pm

re: #1 P. Aaron

Our only 'salvation' is to rid ourselves of that idiot.

Problem is there is a lot of those idiots.

56 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:46:41pm
57 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:46:52pm

re: #52 gearhead

re: #46 Oh no...Sand People!

I am, of course, including UN assistance in my definition of 'Islamic rule'.

LOL

58 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:46:59pm

Is Ahmadinejad a Bishop in the RC church?

/ducks

59 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:47:02pm

re: #51 jcm

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

I WILL BE RULED MY BY ISLAM Ginn!

There you go!

60 g3n3r1c  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:47:03pm

re: #53 Cicero05

re: #47 hous bin pharteen

He attacked the soil of the United States of America.

Whats was our weak response?
Have we done shit to this guy in almost 30 YEARS.
Now he is close to getting nukes.
Are response?
"Hey. Maybe he can help us with security in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Why shouldn't he think he can kick the idea of America in the trash can.

Who exactly are the crazy ones? Him?
Or us?

Hillary will kick his ass.

/snort

Just send him a continuous loop of Hillary on her stump speech that would make anyone crack

61 smalls  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:47:53pm

re: #51 jcm

forever and ever, Amen.

62 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:48:45pm

re: #48 Logic
You're right. But unfortunately, the Kos, the LLL and a lot of the others no habla threats. When, if ever, will they wake up?

63 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:48:54pm

It is nice to know that the Dems area going to go after the biggest threat to the safety of the United States if elected. They will use every organ of the US Government to get him.
Every lever of power will be used.
Yes, I mean Karl Rove.

64 jcm  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:11pm

re: #59 Ginn

re: #51 jcm

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

I WILL BE RULED MY BY ISLAM Ginn!

There you go!

LOL!

65 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:23pm
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

Shouldn't you be a member of mankind and/or a human being before you make pronouncements on to "save" them?

66 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:29pm

If I could get rid of this scum I would sacrifice myself for the cause...he is a cancer on the world.

67 cosmo  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:36pm

Why oh why doesn't "distancing yourself from the culture of materialism" mean "distancing yourself physically from the culture?"

Seriously, don't touch the kafir. Don't get on the kafir's planes. Don't go through the kafir's customs. You'll be soiled and miss out on your dates, olives and hairy-pits virgins. (You can still have all the goats you want, though...)

Leave us the hell alone, Ahmadumbassijihad. Or face a heavy dose of "this glass used to be sand."

68 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:44pm

I'm not converting to Islam! They can have the Kos Kiddies, they'll probably go willingly...but I refuse!

69 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:46pm

re: #55 jcm

re: #1 P. Aaron

Our only 'salvation' is to rid ourselves of that idiot.

Problem is there is a lot of those idiots.

Yes...Yes there are...here is a minor fraction of .0001 percent of them...

70 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:49:48pm

re: #54 Dustyvet
You're dating yourself.

71 infideldogma  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:50:03pm

Surely this article is quoting him out of context, & also must be part of the Zionist propaganda machine to make him look bad.
Oh wait, it's from the official Iranian news agency? Damn those wiley Zionists!

72 Da Coyote  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:50:53pm

There would be slight benefits to the new Caliphate. I'd love to see the reaction of Andrew Sulligripe and Rosie O'dhimmi under the religious rule. Bet they'd still be claiming Christianity is worse. Snark!

73 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:10pm

"The 'caliphate' is the last refuge of the neocon. It's not a real threat."
-Michael Scheuer, former CIA "Operative".

Uh, you were sayin', Mikey? How long does it take a lefty to get tired of being wrong? Until it kills them, usually.

74 Cicero05  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:16pm

re: #65 Ginn

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

Shouldn't you be a member of mankind and/or a human being before you make pronouncements on to "save" them?

Sometimes its best to get an outsider to do a job.

75 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:20pm

re: #70 grumpy old codger

re: #54 Dustyvet
You're dating yourself.

I once dated myself and STILL didn't get lucky at the end of the night !

76 bulwrk  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:42pm

re: #19 MandyManners


He wanted a happy meal.

77 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:49pm

Little Mahmoud has got to go.

78 cosmo  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:51:50pm

re: #72 Da Coyote

Rosie would be pissed because burqas don't come in "big top."

79 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:02pm

Xerxes messenger (Achmeddinnerjacket) - 'This is madness!'

King Leonidas - 'This is SPARTA (The Free World)!'

*KICK*

80 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:14pm

re: #75 sattv4u2
Hey! I still like girls, but I forget why!

81 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:15pm

g3n3r1c
Cicero05

I aint kidding guys.
Why should this guy be afraid of us?
Why should this guy not think he can defeat us.
He has been doing a pretty good job so far.

82 NiceLass  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:20pm

Send in the clowns social workers...

(Well, the Euroweenies think it will work. That has to count for something.)

83 Nadnerb  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:27pm

Questions? Anyone?

84 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:27pm

re: #70 grumpy old codger

re: #54 Dustyvet
You're dating yourself.

I knew a guy that had a split personality who was dating himself.

85 insanity police  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:32pm

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86 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:52:37pm

re: #78 cosmo

re: #72 Da Coyote

Rosie would be pissed because burqas don't come in "big top."

ROFLMAO! Oh too good.

87 gpepper  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:53:01pm

look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam.

I'm sure this includes a few strategic beheadings?

88 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:53:05pm
“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.

It's cool that he sort of declared war on his Sunni buddies. How soon before a civil war breaks out or what can we do to help get it moving along? (I'm referring to the fact that the Sunnis and Shites don't really like or trust each other)

89 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:53:16pm

Like all lies, there is a glimmer of truth, a vestige of real truth, within the lie...

His words:

"...There is no truth on earth but ...

"...there is no way for salvation of mankind but...

"...culture of materialism and selfishness...

"...Nations today have no haven but...

"...All of us have the duty to resist the enemy..."

are so full of utter truth...but his words before and after each of those phrases, miss the mark of truth by an eternity... :)

90 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:53:39pm

How bout Islam can rule the afterworld...so they can all kill themselves to get there quicker and leave us to enjoy...uhh whats that thing called again...oh yea...LIFE.

91 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:53:40pm
“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad

I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!

/

92 blackpajamas  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:02pm

The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.

FDR had no problem recognizing total war when he saw it, he then ordered one of his advisors at the time, Harry Hopkins, to start morale bombing, later couched as "radar bombing" of Germany.

Back in 1941, Harry Hopkins declared that the forces of democracy had to exceed the Nazis in "fury and ruthlessness." -Fleming (NDW, "Democracy's Total War")

Morale-bombing was aimed at German civilians, without apology or subterfuge

If it's ok for a Democrat President...

93 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:29pm

"I find myself thinking lately about a visit I had when I was a teenager, in the late 1970's, with a Dutchman named Max.

Max talked about his life, which was a fascinating capsule of European history. He had served in the bureaucacy of the Dutch navy in the 1930's, and told entertaining stories about advances the Netherlands made in submarine technology that flummoxed both Germans and English. He wound up working in the Royal Navy after the Germans invaded Holland in 1940.

I was entertained and respectful of his age and experience, but not so much so that I did not, eventually, interrupt with a question that had begun gnawing at me during his narrative.

"OK, so you were in the Dutch government during the 1930's," I said. "Didn't your country feel threatened by Hitler's rise?"

No, Max said. "Back then, that was not at all how it seemed. We all thought that Hitler was so good for Germany. The Germans had got a bad deal from the Versailles treaty, you know? So they were depressed, they were resentful, and their economy was a complete disaster. And that spread out through Europe, what was bad for Germany was bad for all of us littler countries, you see? But with Hitler, they had their pride back, their economy was recovering, they were a good trade partner, we all benefitted. What was good for Germany, was good for Europe.

"Oh, we all knew he had this thing about the Jews," --- this accompanied by an apologetic hand wave, "but everyone has their strange obsessions. But overall, Germany was so much better, and they made a better neighbor, you know?"

Max shook his head, as if still puzzled. "Then all of a sudden he just went crazy and started conquering people."

"But, but," I spluttered, "he wrote all of that, I mean about acquiring territory, ruling Europe, in Mein Kampf! It wasn't exactly a spur of the moment decision!"

"Yes, of course," Max allowed, "but who could take that seriously?" "

People need to take these bastards at their word.

94 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:35pm

re: #91 Ginn

“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad

I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!

/

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to jihad we go...

95 Logic  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:39pm

#62 grumpy old codger:

But unfortunately, the Kos, the LLL and a lot of the others no habla threats. When, if ever, will they wake up?

My guess on when they'll wake up? Just as the sword comes down on their necks, and not a moment before.

96 BignJames  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:47pm

re: #19 MandyManners

Oh, shut up and eat your fries, short-shit.

Is that a Happy Meal? He's too small to have the toy, he might swallow it.

97 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:54:49pm

#73 Lizard by the bay

Till Lower Manhattan looks like Nagasaki.

Then the surviving libs will say Bush knew about it and let it happen.

Its a win-win for them.

98 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:55:29pm

re: #81 hous bin pharteen

As the Great Helmsman said, "Yes, America is a paper tiger, but they have nuclear teeth". He was, I bleieve, paraphrasing Leo durocher, who said "Nice guys finish last". I don't expect to finish last to this anti-semitic, anti-christian bozo. I'd rather die on my feet, than bow before the blade.

99 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:55:46pm

it cracks me up that he says Islam should rule the world...because we all know how great life is in Muslim countries, and how prosperous they are, and how well all of their economies are doing.
How bout you give your own friggin countrymen a decent life before you start going around telling other people how they should live theirs.

100 ROPMA  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:55:59pm

We need to apply the proper amount of diplomacy and this problem will go away.

101 southernborn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:56:19pm

re: #19 MandyManners
After seeing that picture, Im sure this lil man is made from the parts of two lil men and the parts don't fit.

102 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:56:20pm

According to The View of the cows on a sofa we just need a president that will have empathy for Ahmadinnerjacket.

103 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:56:23pm

re: #93 Bard

"I find myself thinking lately about a visit I had when I was a teenager, in the late 1970's, with a Dutchman named Max.

Max talked about his life, which was a fascinating capsule of European history. He had served in the bureaucacy of the Dutch navy in the 1930's, and told entertaining stories about advances the Netherlands made in submarine technology that flummoxed both Germans and English. He wound up working in the Royal Navy after the Germans invaded Holland in 1940.

I was entertained and respectful of his age and experience, but not so much so that I did not, eventually, interrupt with a question that had begun gnawing at me during his narrative.

"OK, so you were in the Dutch government during the 1930's," I said. "Didn't your country feel threatened by Hitler's rise?"

No, Max said. "Back then, that was not at all how it seemed. We all thought that Hitler was so good for Germany. The Germans had got a bad deal from the Versailles treaty, you know? So they were depressed, they were resentful, and their economy was a complete disaster. And that spread out through Europe, what was bad for Germany was bad for all of us littler countries, you see? But with Hitler, they had their pride back, their economy was recovering, they were a good trade partner, we all benefitted. What was good for Germany, was good for Europe.

"Oh, we all knew he had this thing about the Jews," --- this accompanied by an apologetic hand wave, "but everyone has their strange obsessions. But overall, Germany was so much better, and they made a better neighbor, you know?"

Max shook his head, as if still puzzled. "Then all of a sudden he just went crazy and started conquering people."

"But, but," I spluttered, "he wrote all of that, I mean about acquiring territory, ruling Europe, in Mein Kampf! It wasn't exactly a spur of the moment decision!"

"Yes, of course," Max allowed, "but who could take that seriously?" "

People need to take these bastards at their word.

Yes, they do. What a great post.

Thanks

104 Sabraguy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:56:34pm
...there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad

... as one bunch of Iraqi Muslims exploded a tanker bomb killing another bunch of Iraqi Muslims.

105 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:56:48pm

re: #94 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #91 Ginn

“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad
I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!

/

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to jihad we go...

Come on... all the other cool kids are doing it!

106 the historian  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:57:13pm

Iamadimjihad is a crazy fanatic driven by blood lust and blind fanaticism. He needs to be permanently retired and his people deserve the opportunity to determine their own future.

www.greensrealworld.blogspot.com

107 peck  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:57:28pm

Really wish these Islamists would just worry about their own salvation, quietly and privately in their own little piece of shit third world countries and leave the rest of us alone to worry about ours. Somehow I don't think he really cares...the sincerity meter isn't moving.

108 markie  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:57:36pm

Over your stinking, rotting ass, Amadinnerjacket.

109 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:01pm

re: #105 Ginn

re: #94 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #91 Ginn

“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad

I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!/

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to jihad we go...

Come on... all the other cool kids are doing it!

Islam, 'MTVTM approved'

110 jcm  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:12pm

Chill folks, just a mistranslation.

/moonbat

111 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:28pm

#98 grumpy..

You an me do not have control of any Boomers.
The people who do want to make nice nice with him.
And the ones that might have power over those Boomers are more likely to use them on a Morman Church in Salt Lake City then Tehran.

112 Born Again Republican  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:29pm

re: #47 hous bin pharteen

Rush Limbaugh had spent 2 hours talking with the president and he believes he will not leave office with Ahmadinejad still seeking nuclear weapons. Time will tell.

113 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:34pm

Rick Ellersburg isn't afraid of Mahmoud.

Or is it Thomas Ellers?

Every now and then, it is worth noting that substantial portions of the right-wing political movement in the United States -- the Pajamas Media/right-wing-blogosphere/Fox News/Michelle Malkin/Rush-Limbaugh-listener strain -- actually believe that Islamists are going to take over the U.S. and impose sharia law on all of us. And then we will have to be Muslims and "our women" will be forced into burkas and there will be no more music or gay bars or churches or blogs. This is an actual fear that they have -- not a theoretical fear but one that is pressing, urgent, at the forefront of their worldview.
114 Athos  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:44pm

re: #73 Lizard by the Bay

"The 'caliphate' is the last refuge of the neocon. It's not a real threat."
-Michael Scheuer, former CIA "Operative".

Uh, you were sayin', Mikey? How long does it take a lefty to get tired of being wrong? Until it kills them, usually.

But, according to themselves, they are never wrong - there is always another move of the goalpost that they can undertake.

I do agree with you. That comment alone should disqualify Scheuer from ever being a talking head on any respectable program.

At least Chamberlain had the misguided hope that by appeasing Hitler to delay a war was the same as preventing a war. Ignoring Ahmawhackjob and those who share his viewpoint is just suicidal.

115 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:58:53pm

how come the MSM has stopped talking about the Iranians nuclear program? Last time I checked they were flippin a big Persian F U to the UN.

116 insanity police  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:59:08pm

re: #106 the historian

I'm past the point of thinking that "his people" don't support him. Many Iranians do support him. The "people" will not overthrow him. The civilized world should get rid of him in a very uncivilized way.

117 Pickle  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:59:37pm
He said, “All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks.”

Correct.

And Ahmoonbatinejad and his foul death-cult superstition is "the enemy".

118 blackpajamas  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 2:59:40pm

re: #93 Bard


"OK, so you were in the Dutch government during the 1930's," I said. "Didn't your country feel threatened by Hitler's rise?"

No,Max said. "Back then, that was not at all how it seemed. We all thoughtthat Hitler was so good for Germany.

It sounds like that may have been the same so good feeling that FDR and his Vice-President Henry Wallace got from the Communist Chinese; prompting FDR to abandon Chiang Kai-Shek and the Chinese Nationalists, and hand all of China to the bloody Communists on a silver platter.

119 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:00:00pm

I've just been informed that an LGF comment of mine was pasted somewhere at KoS, and I'm now an anti-hero of the libtard virtual community.

Does anybody have a link?

120 amrilusaguy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:00:04pm

re: #99 Sizzlack

noting that scottish health care workers must change their habits for a month

doesnt it look like they do rule the world, or at least certain parts of it?

121 markie  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:00:07pm

That guy's days are numbered. He'll suddenly disappear just as the last person figures out how to pronounce his name.

122 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:00:08pm
“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad

Has Harry Reid capitulated yet?

123 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:00:50pm

OT: Good news from Iraq...

Former insurgents face al-Qaida wrath

Wearing a bandanna that hides his face, Omam Abed leads U.S. soldiers on raids in the west Baghdad streets where he grew up — kicking down doors and interrogating neighbors in search of fighters for al-Qaida in Iraq.

The 20-year-old is part of a ragtag collection of former Sunni insurgents — some even from the al-Qaida ranks — who have thrown their support behind U.S.-led security forces under pacts of mutual convenience.

The Sunni militiamen have grown leery of al-Qaida in Iraq and its ambitions, including self-proclaimed aims of establishing an Islamic state. The Pentagon, in turn, has latched onto its most successful strategy in months: partnering with former extremists who have the local know-how to help root out al-Qaida in Iraq.

Wining hearts and minds.

124 Muadib  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:01:04pm

Islam will rule in hell. Freedom will prevail everywhere else.

125 NiceLass  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:01:14pm

The administrator of the message board at Newspaper Index, where the dreaded cartoons of blasphemy were published, took up a collection to send FLOWERS to dinnerjacket.

I'm not kidding. He said dinnerjacket just might realize how nice westerners were if we sent him a bouquet of flowers. The Euroweenies and Canadian wannabe made a big show of their contributions.

Problems arose when they couldn't find a florist to deliver the goods. I suggested they send a bouquet to Ayan Hirsi Ali instead, but as you can imagine that idea went over like a lead balloon.

True story. Pathetic, but true.

126 Sabraguy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:01:28pm
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

The evidence so far is not exactly encouraging.

127 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:01:49pm

re: #122 DesertSage

hes announcing his conversion tomorrow from the steps of Capitol Hill

128 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:01:55pm

re: #99 Sizzlack

How bout you give your own friggin countrymen a decent life before you start going around telling other people how they should live theirs.

I read that Iran has a lot of problems within, including a younger generation that is very rebellious and wants western-style freedoms, and many minorities (Armenians, Arabs, and others) who do not trust the Ayatollahs. Plus, they have high unemployment. I think the old Dinnerjacket's days may be numbered, unless he can divert his country's attention away from those problems. That's what makes him such a scary dude.

129 redshirt  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:10pm

It needs to be clearly communicated to the people if Iran that if they wont get rid of him post haste, we will, our way.
I hope they can get themselves out of the way.

130 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:22pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

OT: Good news from Iraq...

Former insurgents face al-Qaida wrath

Wearing a bandanna that hides his face, Omam Abed leads U.S. soldiers on raids in the west Baghdad streets where he grew up — kicking down doors and interrogating neighbors in search of fighters for al-Qaida in Iraq.

The 20-year-old is part of a ragtag collection of former Sunni insurgents — some even from the al-Qaida ranks — who have thrown their support behind U.S.-led security forces under pacts of mutual convenience.

The Sunni militiamen have grown leery of al-Qaida in Iraq and its ambitions, including self-proclaimed aims of establishing an Islamic state. The Pentagon, in turn, has latched onto its most successful strategy in months: partnering with former extremists who have the local know-how to help root out al-Qaida in Iraq.

Wining hearts and minds.

But Killgore, didn't Harry Reid say the war was already lost?

131 jcm  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:27pm

re: #115 Sizzlack

how come the MSM has stopped talking about the Iranians nuclear program? Last time I checked they were flippin a big Persian F U to the UN.

I think I see the problem here.

When Dinnerjacket was asked by the media if he was going to stop seeking nuclear weapons he gave them the thumbs up. The media took that as a yes.

Problem is the thumbs up in Iran is the same as the middle finger here.

132 NiceLass  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:38pm

re: #107 peck

Really wish these Islamists would just worry about their own salvation, quietly and privately in their own little piece of shit third world countries and leave the rest of us alone to worry about ours.

It's in the Koran...

133 Simon Jester  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:42pm

Does the Pinky and the Brain themesong play in the background at all of his press conferences?

...if it doesn't, it should.

134 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:02:57pm

re: #111 hous bin pharteen

Time will tell. Dinnerjacket has outlined his response to the world. we're still trying to find a nice way to "cope". Maybe someone will wake up in the not to distant future and find out (remember) that you cannot compromise with evil.

135 Dustyvet  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:03:12pm

re: #70 grumpy old codger

re: #54 Dustyvet
You're dating yourself.

Sorry bout that, not up on the new stuff...

136 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:04:04pm

re: #119 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
No, however, your firing squad is set for 0900. Can you be there?

137 RTLM  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:04:38pm
Now as then - a beast approaches. Patient and confident. Savoring the meal to come. An army of slaves - vast beyond imagining. Ready to devour tiny Greece. Ready to snuff out the world's one hope for reason and justice.

A beast approaches.

Dilios

138 kpom  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:04:46pm

Ahmadinejad was in ***Kabul***? Really? And we didn't welcome him?

139 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:04:49pm

#112 born again..

He isn't acting like it or talking like it. I am not going to bet my house on it.
He also has no support in the UN or Congress to do that.
If he does it, I have no doubt the Dems will try to impeach him.

140 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:05:33pm

re: #135 Dustyvet
Paging Dr. Haldol, paging Dr. Haldol!

141 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:05:44pm

re: #109 Oh no...Sand People!

I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!/

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to jihad we go...

Come on... all the other cool kids are doing it!

Islam, 'MTVTM approved'

Season Twenty of MTV's Real World Islam.

Ginn is modeling her burka to Oh No Sand People.

"Hey Sand, whattya think about this really cool burka?" (Ginn twirls around)

Sand sits in Leather Lazy Boy with TV Remote in hand: "Ginn, you look beautiful. Now bring me the phone so I can call your brother to come beat you for bringing me lust."

142 southernborn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:06:07pm

re: #125 NiceLass

I ll opt for a pig in a blanket

143 blackpajamas  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:06:11pm

re: #124 Muadib

Islam will rule in hell. Freedom will prevail everywhere else.


The spice must flow!

144 kuppajoe2  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:06:36pm

I volunteer President Ahmadinejad for the first Solar landing :)

145 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:07:10pm

re: #128 Golem Akbar

All hes been trying to do is divert attention away from all the problems Iran has at home. Their economy is in the toilet. They have to ration gasoline. Amir Taheri (who writes for the NYPost) has had a series of articles on union protests against the government, and their response of imprisoning the leaders of the workers unions. Iranians are smart people, I cant imagine that most of them enjoy having a total loon as President. Ahmadinejad won on a platform of fixing the economy...and all he has done is interfere in the Israeli/Palestinian problem and trumped up their nuclear capabilities. If anything, hes made the general public more angry that they were when the elected him. It leaves them in a difficult situation however because anytime someone tries to do anything the gov doesn't like they come and arrest you and whisk you away to prison.

146 Ginn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:08:01pm

re: #125 NiceLass

Very pathetic and sad.

Nice will get you dead with these guys.

147 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:08:37pm

#134 grumpy

I don't think the baby boomer generation has the salt to take care of what needs done.
Too greedy and narcissistic. Me Me Me.
I am hoping the next generation has it in them.

148 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:08:45pm

re: #119 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I've just been informed that an LGF comment of mine was pasted somewhere at KoS, and I'm now an anti-hero of the libtard virtual community.

Does anybody have a link?


Just this. I'm not a star at KoS, apparently.

149 Athos  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:10:48pm

re: #148 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #119 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I've just been informed that an LGF comment of mine was pasted somewhere at KoS, and I'm now an anti-hero of the libtard virtual community.

Does anybody have a link?


Just this. I'm not a star at KoS, apparently.

I guess they just embrace sock puppets of other persuasions.

150 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:11:55pm

re: #141 Ginn

re: #109 Oh no...Sand People!

I never noticed how powerful and motivational Ahmadinejad is. He's right! In order to save mankind I'm off to join Islam!/

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to jihad we go...

Come on... all the other cool kids are doing it!

Islam, 'MTVTM approved'

Season Twenty of MTV's Real World Islam.

Ginn is modeling her burka to Oh No Sand People.

"Hey Sand, whattya think about this really cool burka?" (Ginn twirls around)

Sand sits in Leather Lazy Boy with TV Remote in hand: "Ginn, you look beautiful. Now bring me the phone so I can call your brother to come beat you for bringing me lust."

That's the truth...

151 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:12:45pm

#145 Sizzlack

...I have been hearing the Iranian people have been over throwing the Mullahs every year since 1980. I had several Iranian friends in the 80's.
Guess what?
They are still in charge and no credible threat to them has ever made it past the wishful thinking stage.

152 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:12:58pm

He sounds and looks more like Mojo Jojo every day. Life imitates art.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I, Mojo Jojo, have a town to take over. I have a world to conquer. I have to seize control of an area and force its inhabitants to follow my way of thinking.

153 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:13:28pm

I've got $5 for you when you try to establish the caliphate here, Ahmadinejad.

154 400lb Gorilla  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:13:31pm

ROP MA
SIN

155 Psaturn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:13:50pm

So he says that Islam is the salvation of mankind...

er...okay...which Islam? The Sunnis or the Shiites? You know, they are fighting against each other?

156 DeafDog  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:14:13pm

re: #147 hous bin pharteen

#134 grumpy

I don't think the baby boomer generation has the salt to take care of what needs done.
Too greedy and narcissistic. Me Me Me.
I am hoping the next generation has it in them.

Yes, we do.

157 400lb Gorilla  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:14:55pm

Religion of Peace My ASS
SIN

158 BenZacharia  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:14:57pm

re: #51 jcm

I WILL NOT BE RULED MY ISLAM!

Those who will not be ruled by Ha'Shem will be ruled by all.

159 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:16:09pm

re: #147 hous bin pharteenI don't share your optimism. The Baby Boomer gen were the children of the WWII generation. Despite the sacrifice of the "greatest",, the boomers have absorbed none of their parents' willingness to do what is right or necessary. History does tend to repeat itself. If the boomers only exhibit 1% of the grit of their parents, how can we expect the "gimme" generation of offering to do more? Will 1% of 1% be enough? I think not.

160 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:16:26pm

re: #145 Sizzlack

They have to ration
gasoline.

Oil, oil everywhere.
24, 365.
Oil, oil everywhere.
But not a drop to drive.

161 hous bin pharteen  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:16:37pm

#145 Sizzlack

...I have been hearing the Iranian people have been over throwing the Mullahs every year since 1980. I had several Iranian friends in the 80's.
Guess what?
They are still in charge and no credible threat to them has ever made it past the wishful thinking stage.

162 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:17:42pm
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

Because, you know, they do such a good job of turning anything they come in contact with into a festering cesspool. What's not to like?

/bassackwardsness is our only salvation!

163 hurricane_jimmy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:17:54pm

My question is:

Does President "Ahmalittlesquirt" need a ladderl to get into his chauffeur driven limousine?

164 zygazint  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:18:00pm

distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam.

Yes, the path that was forged by the likes of Hitler and his buddy the Grand Mufti and later Arafat and that pig responsible for the Munich Massacre - FEH!

165 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:18:56pm

re: #161 hous bin pharteen

exactly...because as soon as they catch wind of anything you are labeled as an "enemy of god" and they execute you.

166 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:19:12pm

re: #163 hurricane_jimmy
Not for the limo, but yes for mounting the camel, either from behind or on top.

167 Born Again Republican  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:20:25pm

re: #159 grumpy old codger

The WWII generation did not willingly sacrifice for the war. It took drastic measures before the country came together and I have no doubt we'll do it again.

168 Sifty  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:20:48pm

I will personally take care that the first few c**k-suckers that come through my front door trying to enforce this one miss the rest of that day's appointments.

169 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:21:11pm

I will not use my left hand as toilet paper!

/death before dhimmitude!

170 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:21:14pm

He's sounding and looking more like Mojo Jojo every day.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I, Mojo Jojo, have a town to take over. I have a world to conquer. I have to seize control of an area and force its inhabitants to follow my way of thinking.

171 looking closely  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:21:58pm

Wants to rule the world, huh?

And people say comparisons to Hitler are off-base.

I think not.

172 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:22:53pm

re: #138 kpom

Ahmadinejad was in ***Kabul***? Really? And we didn't welcome him?

Ouch. Well spotted.

People, we have to make noise about this, and loudly. Bad enough that Bush is having talks with Ahmadinejad, but giving him free rein to spew his propaganda in Afghanistan... The only thing these politicians understand is outrage (though, of course, they think of it as "scandal"), so let the outrage be heard.

173 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:23:58pm

re: #167 Born Again Republican
You're right, but I think the level of "drastic measures" has risen so high that it will not be met.I could foresee a USA where islam is accepted , in name, but not in the wahabbi-ist form. I think we'd bend over and accept the form, to preserve the lifestyle, but not accept the substance. If all the world were islamic, i'd still expect countries, despite their unity of religion, to have serious disagreements regarding national interests. Like Iran and iraq in the 80's.

174 GregInSeattle  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:28:15pm

re: #159 grumpy old codger

I'm an older "Gen X" guy. My generation seems to be fairly responsible, and hard working (at least from what I can tell among my friends and folks at church).

I'm really worried about the 20 somethings (Gen Y?). My friends tell me that often times a recent graduate will get a job, and expect everyone to defer to them, and they expect very rapid promotion.

However, that is also the same generation sacrificing so much in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I agree that Americans CAN get things together when we need to, but that motivating moment hasn't yet arrived it seems.

175 LoneSome Journey  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:31:44pm

The day that [bigoted word] stands before GOD will be the day he learns that the islamic cult is NOT a religion and that GOD will extract HIS vengeance upon such pretenders who use phony religion as a basis for attacking and attempting enslave men and women.

176 LoneSome Journey  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:36:23pm

The frightening thing is the number of Americans who so despise Christians and Christianity, that would gladly support and effort to force the islamic cult upon the entire population. These loony left fruit cakes see Christianity as having standards, morals and judgments. Since these fruit cakes do not want Christians to apply these standards against them, they'll accept anything, regardless of how vile, the alternative.

177 tantraman  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:38:00pm

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

178 Muadib  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:39:38pm

re: #143 blackpajamas

re: #124 Muadib

Islam will rule in hell. Freedom will prevail everywhere else.


The spice must flow!

It will.

179 Born Again Republican  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:39:51pm

re: #173 grumpy old codger

If that were true why has CAIR lost power in this country. At one time they had people in Congress singing their praises. Not anymore. I believe Americans are a tremendously resourceful people and it is beyond my wildest imagination that we will bend over for a theology from the 7th century. We are not Europe.

180 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:40:38pm

re: #177 tantraman

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

Idiotic moral equivalence from Tantraman! Wow, I'm shocked.

181 tantraman  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:44:36pm
re: #177 tantraman

Idiotic moral equivalence from Tantraman! Wow, I'm shocked.

Swap Christianity for Islam in Ahmadinejad's quote above, and it is no different to what any Christian fundamentalist believes. Arguing about whose God is the true God - what a bunch of crap.

182 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:45:11pm

Mahmoud, you can't take over the world when you have to keep your own people ignorant and shackled just to hold on to power.

183 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:47:10pm

someone needs to get this idiot a copy of the Bill of Rights. Im sure hed just spit on it and say oh well if this wasnt written by Mohammed it doesnt mean sh*t but he might actually learn a thing or two about basic human freedoms

184 kirche  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:48:31pm

well, ahmadinejads' gonna have a tough time ruling the world because that is MY plan also... game on.

185 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:49:20pm

re: #181 tantraman hey dummy, these were your words not mine...

All fundamentalists are the same...

All the same, no difference. Mother Theresa was no different than Ayatollah Khomeini. Same exact people, deep down as you say.

Bullshit. You're a broken record.

186 kirche  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:53:26pm

#177 tantruman

"All fundamentalists are the same deep down."

how so? please be specific in your comparisons proving the expansion of christian fundamentalism via the violent and murderous tactics of islam.

187 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:54:07pm

re: #179 Born Again RepublicanI congratulate you on your faith in humanity. I suppose I too much of a cynic. I hope I'm wrong, but my faith in the West is sorely tried. Look at the UK. 65 years ago, it was stop the Hun, Battle of Britain, Finest hour and all that. now look at them. no lunch carts during ramadan. Belgium - no protests against 911, might upset the moslem population.
I look at the kids in my neighborhood and i see a profound difference between my youth and theirs, in terms of outlook, desires, wants, needs, etc..
I pray nightly that things will iron themselves out. i hope that god will intercede as I don;t feel that we humans are willing to do the hard work.

188 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:55:03pm

re: #186 kirche

the crusades...was a long time ago but...when the Pope said go to the Holy Land to claim a bunch of land in the name of God...and kill anyone you encounter...I mean it was the dark ages so thats to be expected...in modern times its absurd.

189 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:55:21pm

here's a great interview you all might want to check out:

[Link: www.frontpagemagazine.com...]

but I suspect most lizards already understand what the man is saying

190 cdncheese  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:55:53pm

Ahmadinejad just AnotherMadJihadi. One of many unfortunately.

191 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:56:47pm

re: #177 tantraman

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

It is the choices we make, Harry, that show what we truly are, and the choices of, say, Baptists, tend to the "annoying" rather than the "murderous".

192 Infidelsalwayswin  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:59:14pm

When I've lost all hope and am totally fed up with my life and faith in humanity, I'll give you a bell Mahmoud.

193 Owl  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:59:15pm

surprise!


Owl
Team Jesus
Class of 1982

194 Psaturn  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 3:59:23pm

re: #181 tantraman

re: #177 tantraman

Idiotic moral equivalence from Tantraman! Wow, I'm shocked.

Swap Christianity for Islam in Ahmadinejad's quote above, and it is no different to what any Christian fundamentalist believes. Arguing about whose God is the true God - what a bunch of crap.

tantraman,

I think there is a HUGE difference between Christian fundamentalist and Islamic fundamentalist.

Christian fundamentalists says NO to abortion...life begins at conception, they choose life.
What does Muslim fundamentalists say? Martyrdom! They choose death over life.

Look at the Korean Christian workers that are hostages now in Afghanistan. They went to Afghanistan to help the Afghan people. Guess what the Taliban did? They killed their leader and assistant leader. They finally released only TWO women who were ill...

195 JeepThang  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:02:36pm

So.. technically, did he just invite the entire world to islam?

I wonder what he's got up his sleeve.

196 TalkinKamel  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:06:15pm

Tantraman

Put your money where your mouth is. Please give us a link to some current Christian leader who'se as crazy, and advocates violence, as wildly, and as consistently, as Ahmadenijad does; name, names, please, not just some vague "fundamentalists", or your uncle's-cousin's-brother's-ex-girlfriend who said they were fundamentalist, and once said something you didn't like. Quote quotable quotes.

And it has to be something contemporary. The Crusades, the Inquisition and/or the Book of Judges won't cut it.

197 bill-tb  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:06:49pm

I assume that would mean that little Hitler would see himself as in charge of the world. How convenient.

198 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:06:51pm

All right, tantraman, I'm willing to test that hypothesis.

"There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Christianity and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Christianity over mankind."

Clever, but no cigar. "Rule of Christianity" in Christian fundamentalism doesn't refer to Christian tenets codified into the law of the land, and their way of going about evangelism is a touch less harsh.

199 TalkinKamel  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:10:47pm

#195 Jeep thang

I'm not sure, but whatever he's got up his sleeve, I just hope it's not nuclear!

Note to Tantraman: Can you name a Christian fundamentalist who has nukes? (Bush doesn't count---he's really not much of a Crusader, for all that he's constantly accused of being that.) And what makes you think the WoT is nothing but an argument about which G-d is true? It wasn't America that pulled off 9/11 (despite conspiracy theories to the contrary.) And, even if it is dumb, aren't you just a teensy bit worried that Ahmadenijad might carry out his threats? I mean Hitler sounded really dumb at first too, lebesraum and race purity and all that. . .

Are you bothered by any mention of religion because it contradicts what you belive is the true faith---Marxism?

200 samhein  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:13:46pm

Definitly still a whack job...and still a dangerous one at that.

I thought the people of his country were getting pissed at him. I'm guessing it might be true, and maybe getting worse, as you no longer hear anything about it. If everything was great, I think we'd be hearing all about it.

201 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:14:13pm

re: #198 Bard

...there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Christianity over mankind.

hmmm, that sounds like the polar opposite of

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
202 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:16:21pm

Kamel, lay off that last paragraph. Baseless, and petty enough to allow him to ignore your excellent points in the second. We need to win these arguments, and we don't do it by turning them into flame wars.

203 tappin52  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:18:14pm

The more I think about it, Ahmadinajad must have been the inspiration behind Pinky and the Brain.

204 born again republican  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:18:37pm

re: #187 grumpy old codger

Yeah, well, guess we will just have to save England's butt yet again. :-)
Good has to win over evil otherwise we would not be here in this great country. It's also hopeful to see men like Charles work like he does for what is right and all those who support him. And, there are many more like him.

No doubt, it's tough and scary times.

205 mich-again  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:19:33pm

re: #202 Bard

I thought Kamel's last paragraph was perfect.

206 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:20:24pm

re: #73 Lizard by the Bay

"The 'caliphate' is the last refuge of the neocon. It's not a real threat."
-Michael Scheuer, former CIA "Operative".

Uh, you were sayin', Mikey? How long does it take a lefty to get tired of being wrong? Until it kills them, usually.

Actually, Scheuer would be right except for one thing - the lukewarm willingness of the west to stand up and fight for its survival - byBRACHIAL MEANS if/as necessary!

-S-

207 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:32:00pm

re: #205 mich-again

Even if there were any evidence for tantraman's Marxism, it wouldn't have anything to do with the fundamentalism debate. Think logically, people.

208 Carridine  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:33:20pm

Ahmadinejad exemplifies Muslims who want 'Islam' to rule the world, but ignore the Promised One, Who brought True Islam to the world (1853-1892)

Not to worry, Ahmadinejad, True Islam -with the Oneness of Humankind, the Equality of Men & Women, truthfulness & forthrightness, moderation in all things, humility before the face of fellow humans, rational investigation of the truth as a duty of personal responsibility- THIS IS ruling the whole world, and ATTRACTING more people every day!

209 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:33:23pm

re: #204 born again republican It may come to that, but here's a point that explains how i see my younger fellow citizens. The last time we saved Europe, it cost 450,000 lives. Look at the screams of disgust that we've expended 3500 lives in Iraq and Afghanistan. What would the reaction be if someone approached us now and said, "Yey, You can save the world and western culture and it will only cost x lives. Will you do it?" I fear the answer would be, "well, can't we work this out? Can we compromise? Gee, all cultures are equal, is this necessary?" We coluld certqinly save lives with the use of nukes, but how much a a bigger ruckus (damage to Mother Earth, etc..) would that cause? (despite any evidence that nukes may actually save lives, despite "collateral damage" due to shortening time, intensity, etc..)

210 grumpy old codger  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:34:17pm

PIMF all over the place

211 Maximu§  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:34:52pm

Islam must rule the World?

This little Bitch has no idea what America is made out of...re: #177 tantraman

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

STFU if you don't know WTF your talking about!

You Hear me?

212 GeeWiz  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:37:46pm

re: #187 grumpy old codger

You have expressed my feelings to a "T". I own a small business and have witnessed a large difference between their work ethic and loyalty to mine when I was their age. The only saving grace, the fantastic effort of our finest and bravest in the GWOT. The military has brought out the best in our replacements.

213 AZDave  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:40:31pm
Ahmadinejad: Islam Must Rule the World

Well, he's has a good start with Europe.

214 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:54:31pm

Visualize Tehran as the world's largest pig farm one day, with DinnerJacket's house turned into a plant for refining pig dung into fuel.

/The thought just makes me smile.

215 aunursa  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 4:58:31pm

After we have perfected our top-secret Lizard technology, we will control the words that come out of the Iranian President's mouth:

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that Judaism is the only way for salvation of human beings.

“There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Judaism and there is no way for salvation of mankind but Israeli rule over mankind,” said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.

President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Judaism. He said that the world is on verge of a great upheaval and ulama at this juncture shoulder a heavy responsibility that is introducing genuine Judaism as it is.

“Nations today have no haven but religion,” the Iranian president announced, cautioning Muslim nations against enemies’ divisive plots. He said, “All of us have the duty to support the Jewish people and Israel.”

Immediately following his speech the president was attacked by the shocked Sunni and Shiite contingents. He was taken to Kabul General Hospital where his condition was not immediately known.

216 born again republican  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:02:30pm

re: #209 grumpy old codger

You bring up concerns I worry about too. From reading history though, every generation thinks the new kids are not up to the task and yet we have only become a better nation, imo. And much of the screams about the war's death toll is political, the media and liberals trying to destroy Bush.

If Bush does nothing about Ahmadinejad before he leaves office, then I will sit down and have a good cry with you.

217 AZDave  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:07:26pm

re: #216 born again republican

re: #209 grumpy old codger

[snip]

If Bush does nothing about Ahmadinejad before he leaves office, then I will sit down and have a good cry with you.

My bet is that Bush takes out Iran's nuclear plant before he leave office (my wishful thing).

218 BenZacharia  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:08:04pm

re: #177 tantraman

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

In case anyone didn't call you an asshole, I will shit fer brains.

219 HDrepub  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:10:08pm

We should thank Jimmy Carter everyday for the spew that comes forth from some nutjob in Iran.

/do I need to?

220 keyword  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:10:32pm

One look at today's youth hard at work in the Middle East might change your mind :)
Yesterday's hippie is, well, todays hippie. Smart kids grow up to be Republicans. The dumb ones are registered at DailyKos.

221 Bard  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:12:09pm

Grumpy Old Codger, what good is knowing the threat if you consider cynicism and defeatism the answer? I know what I would say, as one of those youths you so lament, and whether or not the rest have the mettle, I'm sure as hell pitching in. How about you?

222 albusteve  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:12:30pm

re: #159 grumpy old codger

re: #147 hous bin pharteenI don't share your optimism. The Baby Boomer gen were the children of the WWII generation. Despite the sacrifice of the "greatest",, the boomers have absorbed none of their parents' willingness to do what is right or necessary. History does tend to repeat itself. If the boomers only exhibit 1% of the grit of their parents, how can we expect the "gimme" generation of offering to do more? Will 1% of 1% be enough? I think not.

late to the thread and a guppie to boot...but I tell ya... Im a boomer...have not served yet at 55yrs...my best friend, my hero, my mentor was my father...marine 2nd div...three years overseas...tarawa/tinian...saipan where he was shot to pieces but refused landfall usa...stayed up and in the mix at okinawa...whatever...this man brought me here and now I see another threat...to my own children...Im fit and secure...my guns are clean, my sight is excellent, my powders dry and my armors polished...I know my enemy and I understand the consequence...this boomer is ready to rock...I dont resent your post and you may be right...but we've never met...it can be frustrating but you dont speak for me...

223 HDrepub  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:13:58pm

re: #220 keyword


Yesterday's hippie is, well, todays hippie

Fortunately they get older just like the rest of us, and one day there will be none left of the Woodstock generation. Many are still with us, and haven't died yet, they just smell like death.

224 TalkinKamel  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:16:07pm

#205 mich-again

{mich-again!}

:>)

225 albusteve  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:17:57pm

re: #223 HDrepub

re: #220 keyword



Yesterday's hippie is, well, todays hippie

Fortunately they get older just like the rest of us, and one day there will be none left of the Woodstock generation. Many are still with us, and haven't died yet, they just smell like death.

Im not impressed with you knifing me like this...do you know all 40 million of us?

226 SevoGuy  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:19:56pm

HERE IS WHAT AHMADINEJAD REALLY SAID:

Islam SATAN Must Rule the World

Satan is rejoicing right now...but in the end it will be the God of the Christian and Jews that will prevail.

227 maddogg  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:32:12pm
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

Fuck that, runt. Islam can rule where it always has, all of the lowest shitholes nobody else wants.

228 sifty  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:35:57pm

I won't pretend to know what will happen or which "god" will "win" in the "end", but I have my own theories and beliefs. I am not arrogant enough yet to try and establish G-d's itinerary.
G-d does his part and fights his battles, and I do my part and fight mine.

I DO know that the first few people of ANYONE'S religion that bust down my door trying to oppress me and mine are going to have a
real, real, real bad day.

The gall of some crummy little shit-pot dwarf like DinnerJacket telling me that I'll someday have to wrap my daughter in a burqa/hefty bag and chop off her private parts makes my blood boil.

229 kirche  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:40:07pm

#188 sizzler

"re: #186 kirche

the crusades...was a long time ago but...when the Pope said go to the Holy Land to claim a bunch of land in the name of God...and kill anyone you encounter...I mean it was the dark ages so thats to be expected...in modern times its absurd."

why are you apologizing for/rationalizing christian participation in the crusades? the crusades were a defensive response to the muslim expansion of the ottoman empire. gates of vienna. and if the crusaders sacked and looted and expanded christianity, what of it? islam brought it on itself. booty for the conquerors is a part of human history.

230 eclectic infidel  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:42:55pm

All mankind are belong to us.

231 Sifty  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:45:24pm

re: #229 kirche

#188 sizzler

"re: #186 kirche

the crusades...was a long time ago but...when the Pope said go to the Holy Land to claim a bunch of land in the name of God...and kill anyone you encounter...I mean it was the dark ages so thats to be expected...in modern times its absurd."

why are you apologizing for/rationalizing christian participation in the crusades? the crusades were a defensive response to the muslim expansion of the ottoman empire. gates of vienna. and if the crusaders sacked and looted and expanded christianity, what of it? islam brought it on itself. booty for the conquerors is a part of human history.

They started it.

232 BenZacharia  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:53:56pm

re: #228 sifty

I am not arrogant enough yet to try and establish G-d's itinerary.

The itinerary is published, unchangeable and eternal.

233 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 5:58:25pm

Islam is OUR salvation? Right.
There's nothing like the twisted words of a war-mongering pedophile to make the world right again.
It is my fondest hope that the Iranian dissidents get the upper hand and remove this idiot for once and for all. Not every Iranian is a screwjob.

234 the_flying_pig  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:03:23pm

Oh, sure, Islam shall have and rule the world just as the same time the Sun is about to devour Earth in say... less than 5 billions years from now.

Aw! That sucks. Sorry, Muslims. Ain't gonna happen in this lifetime or their children's or their children's children's lifetimes.

Now tell that cheeky little f**ker Ahmahdinnerjacket to bugger off.

235 WimbledonWomble  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:03:44pm

Islam can rule the sewers and underworld, like the Morlocks.

236 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:18:33pm

re: #229 kirche

why are you apologizing for/rationalizing Christian participation in the crusades? the crusades were a defensive response to the Muslim expansion of the ottoman empire. gates of Vienna. and if the crusaders sacked and looted and expanded Christianity, what of it? Islam brought it on itself. booty for the conquerors is a part of human history.

I'm not apologizing for the crusades...I'm a Jew so thats ridiculous. As for rationalizing the crusades...I dont think it possible to rationalize anything about it. Killing in the name of someones religion is disgusting no matter it a Jew Christian or Muslim. The Crusades were not simply a response to the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. I was talking about the first crusade...which happened before the Ottoman Empire existed. You might mean Saladin or Nuradin perhaps. Anyway...the crusaders were not just killing Muslims. They killed plenty of Jews and other people they considered to be pagans. My reference was in response to the comment on fundamentalist Christians. They were talking about modern ones, which I was unaware of. But the Pope telling people to go to Jerusalem and claim the land for god...and that killing people along the way in the name of god was fine is no different than the jihadis and radical imams we see on here spewing hatred everyday.

237 Macker  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:21:39pm

ISLAM.
DELENDA.
EST.

238 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:22:28pm

You're referring to an event that took place in the 16th Century...I'm referring the the 12th Century.

239 BenZacharia  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:24:13pm

re: #236 Sizzlack

If the crusades were simply a reply to the musselman incursions, why was it necessary to murder every Jew before they left town? And any they found on the way and all the Jews in Israel they could get thier hands on?

All while singing "Christ we adore thee" while they roasted Jews in the schulls of Jerusalem.

240 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:36:12pm

re: #239 BenZacharia

the top part of the 236 comment is not mine...the second paragraph was my response

241 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:37:06pm

i.e. i agree with you

242 BenZacharia  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:41:47pm

re: #240 Sizzlack

I saw it was a problem with the use of embeds and quoted sections.

243 rorschach  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:48:42pm

If we handed the world to the muslims tomorrow, they couldn't rule it.

shari'a is not only evil, it's hopeless.

244 Alone in NY  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 6:54:03pm

Airmail for President Ahm-A-DinnerJacket:

KABOOM!

245 BingoBunny  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 7:08:24pm

Looks like Iran's revolutionary Guard will soon be listed as a terrorist organization//

come on people.. talking about the Crusades?.. isn't that what OBL wants us to do?.. Turn our history on it's head and feel sorry for long dead muslims, so the living ones can move in next door and take our countries.

I have enough trouble getting over Japanese attack in 1941, to worry about if King Richard followed all the modern rules of war. 9/11 no way babe! not going to forget that as long as I live.. and not going to let anyone blame my history from the year 1200.. for their murdering ways in the future.

247 jcr  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 7:21:52pm

Notice how this lines up with the old commie rhetoric? He's bitching about "materialism and selfishness". Well, fuck him.

-jcr

248 peck  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 7:22:24pm

re: #148 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Well, I was hoping for an autograph anyway.

249 6pat6  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 7:48:30pm

Achmindinijad is an asshole. He is not clean and articulate like Barack Hussein Obama, but he is an asshole, nonetheless.

250 siiras  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:01:54pm

Yeah, yeah. True happiness for all will be living in caves and bowing and scraping five times a day to a greedy god who rewards adherents who kill innocents in his name with sexual favors, a god who is coincidentallyl in the exact image of the illiterate homicidal megalomaniac he supposedly chose as his messenger on earth and "talked" to. Never has an imaginary friend wreaked such havoc over so many for so long

Even what pass for Muslim intellectuals have not opened their blinded eyes to the quandary that the messenger is a most unworthy personage to be selected by any decent god or emulated And if they DO think he's a good role model for the world, then stop the foolish contention that Islam is a religion of peace/no compulsion/women treated like queens etc. Mohammed would disagree!

And it's always losers incapable of the brains and hard work that would raise their standard of living who pretend that they are morally superior while eating dirt.

251 straitcircle  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:13:47pm

Ahh.. nother eloquent utterance from
A mad jihad (ne) -- Ahmadinejad [ an anagram proper]
His parents must have thought long an hard on that name.

252 Aloysius  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:22:35pm

#11 grumpy old codger 8/14/2007 2:36:54 pm PDT

Time for the St. Crispin's Day speech?



What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day
253 rtheyserius  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:27:23pm

Ahmadinejad is just expressing the true feelings of most Muslims in the world.

Which is why, however ingratiating, however cooperative, however apparently friendly some Muslim nations may be at the moment, they are neither to be trusted nor made strong -- politically, economically, educationally or militarily.

Those who do not wish ultimately to be ruled by Islam must consider all of its adherents enemies. Given time, even the best of them will turn against us. This is not to say that Muslims are all 'bad' or should all be killed; it is only to say that they must, all together, be defeated.

There will be no peace on Earth until Islam is crushed.

254 The flying Kiwi  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:27:37pm

re: #177 tantraman

All fundamentalists are the same deep down.

Sorry, a bit late in response, but have been out.

Whoever you are tantraman, you really should ponder this.

If you claim there are no gods, or God, then you set yourself up as a god to yourself and your beliefs. Agree?

Well, there is someone actually agrees with you.

Genesis 3: 4-5 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

You are doing and believing exactly how satan said you would.

And because Eve did eat, all mankind has been in rebellion against God ever since and we are judged and condemned because of it. Only a Saviour can rescue our wretched souls.

255 The flying Kiwi  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:30:34pm
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day

Ah, yes...crispin coz they're fresher!

256 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:30:53pm

re: #254 The flying Kiwi

is your soul really wretched?
i know my isnt

257 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:31:01pm

ha...mine

258 The flying Kiwi  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:32:26pm

re: #256 Sizzlack

re: #254 The flying Kiwi

is your soul really wretched?
i know my isnt

Not now, but is was.

"Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me..."

259 The flying Kiwi  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:33:35pm

Not now, but is it was. PIMF!

260 Verity Kindle  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:34:50pm

St. Crispin's Day, while officially banned by Holy Mother Church, falls on Oct. 25th, so there's just enough time to start planning celebrations! I'm thinking a cake in the shape of St. George's cross, some little cheese and bacon crunchy things with little spears stuck in them over by the Guinness fountain. A big bonfire and some fireworks left over from New Year's to throw into it. And at midnight, a loud and extremely raucous reading of the scene from Henry the Fifth. And only ten days later, it's Guy Fawkes Day! Sober up from St. Crispin's just in time for Guy Fawkes! Woo hoo!

261 Sizzlack  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:38:29pm

from dictionary.com
Wretch:
–noun
1. a deplorably unfortunate or unhappy person.
2. a person of despicable or base character.


thats a stinker...its good youve gotten past it

262 adela  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 8:52:26pm

I`m sure that Sean Penn and the other Hollywood idiots all agree...

263 Timbre  Tue, Aug 14, 2007 9:04:11pm

I really do not talk glibly about glass parking lots-- it's arrogant and stupid. So let me just say that if the majority of Islamists line up behind this idiot, many people will wish he had never been born!

264 Grumpy  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 12:36:27am

Everytime I see this guy I have a picture in my mind of a little goatherd in the persian hills somewhere, doing something really un-natural with one of his keep. Of course he's the goatherd and he's busy in his own special way, converting the goats to the way of islaaam.
Just as long as they're not pigs.
Can't go porking a porker - no sirree.

265 Ledger1  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 2:46:25am

Al dinnerjacket in not your ordinary psychopath.

He is a radical Islamic psychopath with a burning desire to build the A-Bomb and hang girls from construction cranes.

Oh, and one other small wish ... to rule the world.

Should not the world’s board of directors conclude he is mentally incompetent to run Iran and put him in a padded cell?

266 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 3:03:06am
267 Is it me?  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 4:08:30am

The Poisonous Dwarf needs the care of a Health Professional.
A Mental Health Professional.

Barking mad

268 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 4:24:38am

I know I'm late to this thread, but all I can say is: NUTS!

269 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 5:24:13am

Bite my colossal metal ass

270 opnion  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 7:23:29am

Barack is right. You can really negotiate with this nut.
Liberals read this & say stuff like he does not mean it.
They are telling us their intention

271 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 7:27:19am

So now we know: The Anti-Christ will wear a beard.

I never saw that one coming...

Who knew?

Tell us, Mahmood--who have you chosen as your false prophet?

The world is dying to know. Literally.

/let's get this show on the road...

~Et Norsk Troll

272 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 7:31:55am

Hey, Charles:

When do the 'hate crime investigation' get started on this clown Mahmood for what he just said?

How about after he causes WWIII to come to pass with most of the Jews dead all over the world and billions of other innocents...do we start the 'hate crime investigations' then?

/just asking

~ENT

273 DP111  Wed, Aug 15, 2007 9:20:04am

Iran’s Thug-in-Chief: “There is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind” - Return of the Planet of the Apes.


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