What will they call the explosive vest?

i do need a new hankerchief

you can be 'chic' and a 'progressive' at the same time! what's not to love!

It does sound like somebody out there is desperate to get the kiddies supporting the "noble" Palestinians, and generic revolution.

Is there some Saudi oil money behind ARK, Urban Outfitters, Alloy, etc.?

ot but found the perfect song for the flying imams

[Link: www.animatronics.org...]

This reminds me of the dolts that go out and get a tattoo of some chinese or japanese symbols because they think it stands for something.....then when someone translates it, it turns out to be 'stuffed chicken' or something.

/The kids are sheep

Sick, sick, sick.

What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence.

"Sounds like a job for ZOMBIETIME!"

goes great with a Che T-Shirt, a red star handbag, and cammie pants. Seen at all the best troofer/activist rallies.

*Pots and pans and stupid banners sold separately

re: #7 Sponge

This reminds me of the dolts that go out and get a tattoo of some chinese or japanese symbols because they think it stands for something.....then when someone translates it, it turns out to be 'stuffed chicken' or something.

/The kids are sheep

Sorry Roger, you tiger now!

re: #5 TalkinKamel

It does sound like somebody out there is desperate to get the kiddies supporting the "noble" Palestinians, and generic revolution.

Is there some Saudi oil money behind ARK, Urban Outfitters, Alloy, etc.?

Just remember, the people who buy these scarfs usually do it for the same reason they also have a Che Guevara tee... it's hip with their buddies, because it's like, yaknow, i'm sticking it to the MAN!

well ,I guess if you are in Marseilles when they are burning cars, it is a Med/Riviera scarf.

I'm thinking "dish towel" would suffice. Preferably wrapped around their ugly little heads.

No, no, they are just trying to accessorize and to prepare the children for a very high profit margin 'Riviera ROBE' (with full head covering).

It's all the rage these days...very chic in that beat your woman, female genital mutilation, no reading, drawing, writing, or independent thinking allowed sort of way.

re: #00 Charles

What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence.

Push, push, push....?

If you unfold it, it makes a decent picnic blanket.

Anyone who buys that scarf knowing its real meaning should hang him/herself with it.

Can I remarket my favorite greeting "the Peace Finger"(tm) ?

re: #1 kansas

What will they call the explosive vest?

A guaranteed attention getter!

I hope everyone's read Prayers for the Assassin. I'm pretty sure we didn't let the Hitler Youth recruit in the U.S. during WWII. That was smart.

And the Lizard Army will squelch this one, too.

How dare they besmirch the name of a beloved Buick. Of course you know, this means war!

re: #20 TUGBOAT

Can I remarket my favorite greeting "the Peace Finger"(tm) ?

ROFLMAO!

They can wear those scarves with these t-shirts. All the rage now ...

riviera - but of course

it is where the islamic terrorist money stealer with secret bank accounts vacation and hob-nob with the hollywood left

/It really compliments your Che Guevara T-shirt!

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Damn Kragar, ya beat me to it!

One wouldn't make any money marketing it for what it is - the middle eastern ass hat and moron marker.

I like how it says "Imported." So our dollars are going into the hands of them?

I wrote to Alloy ansd asked how the Kaffiyeh is a "Riveria" scarf. And how this is anything more than a merchandising ploy for unknowing teens.

"What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence."

That's easy. You know how buyers of teen merchandise set their priorities? They walk around malls and skateparks and movie theaters and schools if they can get away with it and other places teens hang around. They see what they think are "trendsetters" and basically order up a bunch of what they're wearing. The trendiest stuff, unsurprisingly, starts in the western US -- California. So if it becomes a fad for teenagers in Beverly Hills or San Francisco to wear terrorist scarfs or half-shirts or carry golf umbrellas, very quickly Macys and its competitors will be carrying terrorist scarfs and half-shirts and golf umbrellas across the country. It's not insidious in an anti-American or anti-Israel kind of way; it's insidious in a "we'll sell what sells without regard for any responsibility at all" kind of way. It's exactly the same impulse that ends up with 13-year olds with the word "Juicy" across their behinds.

Speaking of marketing clothes, who knew that the Swedish were so puritanical?

STOCKHOLM (AFP) - A competition launched by German underwear maker Sloggi to uncover the world's most beautiful bottoms has been slapped down in Sweden after media protests against the "pornographic" event.

"Alas, our goal of finding the most beautiful backsides has been misunderstood by certain sections of the media" in Sweden, the German firm said in a statement Tuesday.

Several Swedish newspapers have slammed the competition as a pornographic event. The company had invited women and men to send photographs of themselves in their underwear which would then be put to an Internet vote.

SNIP

I wonder how many Muslims raised hell about it.

re: #27 amrilusaguy

riviera - but of course

it is where the islamic terrorist money stealer with secret bank accounts vacation and hob-nob with the hollywood left

Let's not generalize about places you've never been to--that's what they do in Russia.

/s

re: #1 kansas

I'm not sure, but I'd love to see some kid try to wear one at an airport.

I remember when Mao caps and jackets were chic. I guess that it didn't matter that the Mao regime killed millions. Made Hitler look like a piker.

re: #31 Kaitian868

I like how it says "Imported." So our dollars are going into the hands of them?

"NO dollars for oil Kaffiyeh's"

re: #31 Kaitian868

I like how it says "Imported." So our dollars are going into the hands of them?

The kaffiyehs we saw in Israel in the shuk were made in China. You didn't think these were actually produced in Gaza? That would involve works

Is *this* pornographic?

I see the anti-semitic scarf just won't leave the heads of young fashion horses. I wonder if Ms Teen South Carolina has bought hers yet.?

/I know, that was mean

A Riviera scarf? What does that mean?

After a while I have to wonder whether militant Palestinians are getting irritated by this. It starts to dilute their symbolic scarf after a while, when kids start wearing 'Riviera' fashion with no clue of its original meaning. Kind of like how the Silly Putty people, or the makers of Kleenex have to fight hard to keep their copyright, since people have come to associate their brand more broadly than originally intended.

Maybe that's wishful thinking, though, the idea of dilution.

How about calling it a "Totem of Terrorism"

How about the Equivalency Hoodie?

re: #41 MandyManners

Is *this* pornographic?

Is it "patently offensive?" Is it "in the prurient interest?"

I say nope, let 'em strut.

What was the message behind that T-shirt I saw this morning, the one with the crescent and star rendered in red-white-and-blue/stars and stripes? re: #37 song_and_dance_man

This has more to do with just garb. It is about installing the Whore

She wants the straddle and spreads her legs for it.

What was the message behind that T-shirt I saw this morning, the one with the crescent and star rendered in red-white-and-blue/stars and stripes? That Islam will dominate!

re: #48 MandyManners

WTF?

re: #41 MandyManners

Is *this* pornographic?

Yes.

but putting a crucifix in piss is legit ART.

/don't hate me because I'm beautiful, hate me because I think you suck

re: #45 Black Belt in Gymkata

How about the Equivalency Hoodie?

Universal ClothCare.

#43 Cognito

I suspect that's wishful thinking. I believe the Palestinians are pleased whenever they see somebody wearing the glorious scarf of their glorious leader, the ignoble Arafish. There was a Middle-Eastern market in my city that, not long after 9/11, was selling these rags, and calling them "Arafat scarves."

Whatever furthers their cause.

re: #46 buzzsawmonkey

re: #34 MandyManners

Has the fashion industry touched bottom yet?

Or only displayed it?

You tell me!

What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence.

The fashion industry is a small circle, no different than a lot of pop culture. They run with hollywood, and rock stars...hip journos like that chick at cnn. The left sticks together- groupthink isn't just in the msm.

re: #36 Know Your Enemy

Never been
hmmm
sorry but i have
I am thankful for my various positions that have allowed me to travel to just about everywhere

I have been to both Cannes and Nice - which is not very nice by the way, rocky beaches didnt like it

re: #43 Cognito

Very good point. Perhaps if Victoria Secret runs a line of Kaffiyeh bra and panties to show solidarity the whole thing will backfire.

re: #47 Know Your Enemy

Are Muslim women allowed to wear thongs under the burkhas?

Does it come with the built-in GPS transponder? Every terrorist should have one :-)

re: #34 MandyManners

I wonder how many Muslims raised hell about it.

None, they never turn down a chance to check out a kafir woman's butt.

Very chic asswipe. Don't y'all know I'm always on the cutting edge of stylish:)

I want to market some toilet paper in the same pattern. We can call it Peace Wipes. Use it for pali-poop. Don't want to get Riviera Rash. Have it hanging next to the Aya-toilet. Just the thing after over indulging in goat cheese and getting the west bank squirts.

It's not a coincidence, and it's not a conspiracy. It's the market responding to demand. Demand for these rags is high in Europe. It's all the rage.

For much the same reason, of course, as white shoelaces and totenkopf pins are popular in some quarters of Europe...

re: #50 Sponge

I just don't get the Swedish protesting that contest. I thought they had a laissez faire attitude about sex.

Some idiot bought truckloads of these things and keep hitting LGF walls everytime they try to reincarnate them anew.
Maybe if they added one to a mop/bucket and duster set.
Or, maybe they could shred them and stuff furniture with them.
Other ideas?
I know we're creative here.

I seem to recall a print ad campaign for fashionistas that relied on a Che style graphic. This stuff is quite pervasive in our culture, and the underlying meanings of these symbols is lost on a new generation - who instead thinks that they're hip or cutting edge.

re: #56 RobCon

re: #43 Cognito

Very good point. Perhaps if Victoria Secret runs a line of Kaffiyeh bra and panties to show solidarity the whole thing will backfire.

Yeah -- the Abu Ammar Thong™.

re: #18 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

That would be where I'd enjoy my ham sandwich, right?

Richard Jewell has died.

re: #60 pat

re: #34 MandyManners

I wonder how many Muslims raised hell about it.

None, they never turn down a chance to check out a kafir woman's butt.

I don't see the imams not protesting this.

re: #55 amrilusaguy

re: #36 Know Your Enemy

Never been
hmmm
sorry but i have
I am thankful for my various positions that have allowed me to travel to just about everywhere

I have been to both Cannes and Nice - which is not very nice by the way, rocky beaches didnt like it

Poor assumption on my part--my apologies. But I've had the pleasure of vacationing on the Riviera a number of times, and I'm neither elite nor Hollwood. My point still stands.

#33 manny

Out here in Southern California, if you want to see what the upcoming trends are, you visit the flea markets, such as the big one at the Rose Bowl, or the smaller ones, dotting the state, or your visit the beach cities like Santa Monica, Venice, Santa Barbara and check out what the kids are wearing there, and what the souvenir stands and boutiques are selling there.

I haven't seen any of them peddling these. I think somebody's trying to push an agenda here. (For one thing, the scarves are oooooogly----nobody in their right mind would want to wrap themselves in one.)

re: #33 manny

"What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence."

That's easy. You know how buyers of teen merchandise set their priorities? They walk around malls and skateparks and movie theaters and schools if they can get away with it and other places teens hang around. They see what they think are "trendsetters" and basically order up a bunch of what they're wearing. The trendiest stuff, unsurprisingly, starts in the western US -- California. So if it becomes a fad for teenagers in Beverly Hills or San Francisco to wear terrorist scarfs or half-shirts or carry golf umbrellas, very quickly Macys and its competitors will be carrying terrorist scarfs and half-shirts and golf umbrellas across the country. It's not insidious in an anti-American or anti-Israel kind of way; it's insidious in a "we'll sell what sells without regard for any responsibility at all" kind of way. It's exactly the same impulse that ends up with 13-year olds with the word "Juicy" across their behinds.

....unless the teens have parents who can keep their kids as strong and pure as in No Submission's story....

Put it on a condom and call it Piece rubbers.

Kirsten Duntz and David Beckham show off their scarves of peace.

re: #57 MandyManners

yes, and it is common in Saudi Arabia

I gotcher "Peace T-shirts" right here, moonbat.

Well, have had to deal for several years now with stores stuffed to the girders with cheaply-made, unflattering, risque, and plain old ugly fashions designed by ADULTS for children, so this is no surprise - just moving further along the same spectrum.
What's happening with the ENTIRE f/mc - that is the Fashion/Media Complex?
All perversities are "cool". It's corrupt adults who desire to corrupt the youth. Exaggeration? Explain the rational behind promoting "thong" underwear to 11-year-olds? All media teenagers, all media youth, are simply props of a mass of adults who dress them up, paint their faces, hawk their clothes, write the words they speak, teach them stripper-style dancing, and stand behind the cameras.
Ugly is the goal - skanky ragged-sheared hair, poorly-cut clothes with high price tags, sallow colors, now UGLY political to conform the interior spirit to the exterior ugly.
Goes together if softening people to accept evil, which is the ultimate ugly, is the purpose.

I'd call it an "Obama Bandanna".

re: #43 Cognito

A Riviera scarf? What does that mean?

The history of jihad along the Riviera is quite extensive. They landed in St. Tropez in 898 and were there for 75 years.

re: #64 MandyManners

Yeah......There used to be a HUGE market for Sweedish hardcore because it was exactly that........no holds barred sex on display.....

But that was all before the evil dictator GWB took over the planet.

The Puppy Scarf.

Wrap it around your face and kill someone for Allah

re: #43 Cognito

A Riviera scarf? What does that mean?

After a while I have to wonder whether militant Palestinians are getting irritated by this. It starts to dilute their symbolic scarf after a while, when kids start wearing 'Riviera' fashion with no clue of its original meaning. Kind of like how the Silly Putty people, or the makers of Kleenex have to fight hard to keep their copyright, since people have come to associate their brand more broadly than originally intended.

Maybe that's wishful thinking, though, the idea of dilution.

Yeah, it is, BUT you are making progress! They will be irritated and seethe over this...that is part of their job description. Now if you will just equate it into a premeditated tactic by the MSM, the Hollywood/political left, and Islam working in tandem to roll out their nefarious plot of subconscious dhimmitude for all, then you get the big THUMBS UP!

French fashion label Anticon has launched it’s latest concept: hooded sweatshirts (aka Terror Fashion).

Perfect for those steamy nights when the 'yutes' are idle....

Has even one of these Types of stores yanked this product after being told what it really is about? Anyone complained and then received an email back on their explanation?

Just curious.

#13 So.cal.swede

Oh, I'm sure that's why (some of the dumber) kids buy stuff like this. (As I said, I haven't seen this as a real kid trend, here.)

What I'm wondering is, could there be some oil tick money behind this effort to dump this on the public, since I really don't see it as a grass-roots fashion trend (such as, say, tummy tattoos, or nose beads.)

OT:

MoveOn.org targets antiwar Dem Congressman who decides 'the surge" should be given a chance after visiting Iraq.

Can't have any defectors from those who made up their minds already.

Head lice sold separately

re: #69 mean Gene

Richard Jewell has died.

The guy that didn't bomb the Olympics?

Look up the PR firms that are involved either on the buy sides from where the symbol gets to market and the firms that are responsible for putting the catalouges out. A place to start sniffing around would be the Management/Publicist firm that Kirsten Dunst uses since she seems to be the biggest star photographed with the "peace scarf".

re: #69 mean Gene

Richard Jewell has died.

The man accused of the Atlanta bombings?

What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence.

What's going on is someone behind the scenes is bound and defrakkintermined to push this as a cool thing. Simple.

85 euros for this sh!t!

re: #93 RichatUF

How 'bout dem Dawgs?

uga

re: #69 mean Gene

Richard Jewell has died.

Too bad the guy had to live through a MSM induced shitstorm for the last ten years of his life.

Soap not Included.

re: #96 NoSubmission

For those times you're not sure if you want to look like a terrorist, or a bank robber.

/I hate it! How ugly.

I would like to think it's insidious but most teens (and most people come to think of it) are just a bit thick and think it's 'hip' and 'cool'.
I was at a shop the other day here in London and saw a pile of these kaffiyahs (in various hues, you know black if you're 'in the know', purple, etc). I wa about to march out when I saw a group of teen-age girls pick them up and try them on. I asked the girls if they knew what the scarf meant and they just replied vacantly that 'everyone is wearing them now' and they're 'in'. I explained the terrorist connection simply (along the lines of:'Wear this if you approve and plan on blowing up ice cream parlours'), got quite a gratifying 'Oh, I didn't know that' and I walked out.
Yes, the people who wear kaffiyahs are even MORE stupid and clueless than those who wear Che t-shirts.
Ho hum, better go and put on the 'Uzi does it' shirt :)

re: #92 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

The scape goat patsy for the bomb at the olympics, I believe, yes.

#80 wanumba

Well said.

And, of course, all this evil marketing is supposedly aimed at making kids "free", more individual and "expressing" themselves, whereas in reality it's just the opposite.

What’s going on here? It’s happened too often to be sheer coincidence.

Are you suggesting there is a concerted effort to promote the Palestinian cause from the purveyors of hip and cool? Naw, couldn't be.

85 euros for sweatshirts with eyeholes? Where do kids get the money for this crap?

Speaking of Che, some international forum in Monterrey, NL, Mexico is using Che' in TV ads to sell their little shin-dig.

re: #58 Iron Fist

Does it come with the built-in GPS transponder? Every terrorist should have one :-)

Ladies buy two and get a free clitoridectomy!

re: #105 madisonsfriend

85 euros for sweatshirts with eyeholes? Where do kids get the money for this crap?

From the French government?

re: #101 Enraged_Badger

I would like to think it's insidious but most teens (and most people come to think of it) are just a bit thick and think it's 'hip' and 'cool'.
I was at a shop the other day here in London and saw a pile of these kaffiyahs (in various hues, you know black if you're 'in the know', purple, etc). I wa about to march out when I saw a group of teen-age girls pick them up and try them on. I asked the girls if they knew what the scarf meant and they just replied vacantly that 'everyone is wearing them now' and they're 'in'. I explained the terrorist connection simply (along the lines of:'Wear this if you approve and plan on blowing up ice cream parlours'), got quite a gratifying 'Oh, I didn't know that' and I walked out.
Yes, the people who wear kaffiyahs are even MORE stupid and clueless than those who wear Che t-shirts.
Ho hum, better go and put on the 'Uzi does it' shirt :)

I remember back in the day when I was a pseudo MTV dork, and I had my Rage Against the Machine Shirt with the Black and White flag that said "Evil Empire" under it. Too bad some sane dude didn't kick my A for that, I really needed it. I had no clue the socialist spew that came from that group...just liked the beat...

If I read it right, Dissident Frogman is working to get his Che with the mouse ears out for public consumerism ...
Just like all to know it's not all bad news, all the time, even in t-shirts and scarves ...

re: #87 NoSubmission

French fashion label Anticon has launched it’s latest concept: hooded sweatshirts (aka Terror Fashion).

Perfect for those steamy nights when the 'yutes' are idle....

If they made a Cobra Commander version of that sweatshirt, I'd snap it up in seconds.

It makes me feel so much better that I just spent $85 at savvysheitels.com on some "Israeli settler chic" hats.

re: #96 NoSubmission

85 euros for this sh!t!

Spidey-fashion-sense?

re: #7 Sponge

This reminds me of the dolts that go out and get a tattoo of some chinese or japanese symbols because they think it stands for something.....then when someone translates it, it turns out to be 'stuffed chicken' or something.

/The kids are sheep

In Japan there are souvenir shops that sell Kamikaze headbands that read "I will buy anything."

Here's how to reach the company selling the scarf and tell them what you think.

re: #109 Oh no...Sand People!

Yeah, I like Public Enemy......never mind the racist overpowering hate whitey messages they spewed.......it had a nice hook......

The funniest thing about Rage is, the lead singer dude isn't even black....he's Italian, so I'm not sure what the whole oppression kick is for him........

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey

Anyone remember the sequence in A Hard Day's Night where George wanders into a studio that is filming some "teen idol" program? The producers think he is just a focus group teen, and toss him a shirt for him to comment on.

George dismisses it and says it's "grotty" (grotesque), and the producers say, "Of course it's grotty, you little nit. But in six months you'll be dying of embarrassment if you don't have it."

Great scene. "We all sit around the telly and laugh at her."

re: #115 The Other Les

re: #7 Sponge

In Japan there are souvenir shops that sell Kamikaze headbands that read "I will buy anything."

Where can i get one - that is a cool idea!

Actually Charles this is the generic cloth Arabs wear on their heads. I've lived in the Middle East for many years and I can confirm. However, the black and white squared keffiyeh is worn only by Palestinians.

I think I've figured out why they're calling it the Riviera scarf. Isn't that where Suha Arafat spent Yasser's misappropriated millions while he was dying of AIDS in the imaginary nation of Palestine?

I saw some teeny bopper girl downtown (cute too) wearing a black and white one, with OD cut-off shorts. Bet she didn't have room in her purse for an AK though.

Now the symbol of Palestinian terrorism and murder, the kaffiyeh, is being marketed at yet another store for young people, Alloy, this time as a “Riviera scarf.”

Now we know where Pizza Hutt table cloths go to die.

re: #101 Enraged_Badger

Ho hum, better go and put on the 'Uzi does it' shirt :)

This one?

OT

JammieWearingFool is pretty good at promoting himself but I just had to link to this one, check out this kooks mugshot.

Burning Man an Arson Victim

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #1 kansas

What will they call the explosive vest?

A guaranteed attention getter!

"...brought to you by TITAN, the novelty nuclear missile. Amaze your friends, amuse your enemies, start your party with a BANG!"

Pizza Hutt

Dirk's been watching Spaceballs.

re: #117 Sponge

re: #109 Oh no...Sand People!

Yeah, I like Public Enemy......never mind the racist overpowering hate whitey messages they spewed.......it had a nice hook......

The funniest thing about Rage is, the lead singer dude isn't even black....he's Italian, so I'm not sure what the whole oppression kick is for him........

"I am a nightmare walkin, psychopath talkin."

AAAAWW YEAH!

re: #107 Sharmuta

re: #58 Iron Fist

Does it come with the built-in GPS transponder? Every terrorist should have one :-)

Ladies buy two and get a free clitoridectomy!

That's a sale even I can pass up.

Kids buy whatever it is that Madison Avenue and Teen Vogue say is the new, hip, in thing. Somebody, somewhere along the line had the bucks to have a mountain of these manufactured and pay enough to make them the new, hip, in thing this year. The red one is traditional in Saudi Arabia. That's where I would look for the guy with the bucks.

re: #126 buzzsawmonkey

"Where's Paul's Grandfather?"

Riviera makes complete sense.

Have you seen France, lately?

It's all about the counter culture man.

Today, the counter culture are terrorists.

bbiab

re: #131 MandyManners

Yeah- there's a no return policy on that.

How about the breezy global chic murder scarf?

re: #130 Oh no...Sand People!

YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE! ! ! !

I assume there is probably an enterprising Arab businessman behind all of this. Or an exceptionally cynical advertising exec.

The most common for Jordanians.

And their non-9/11 almost killed 3 trillion people, so give 'em a break.

re: #137 buzzsawmonkey

Ringo: Do I snore?
John: Aye- you're a window rattler, Son.

Alloy has a forum. Check out this topic titled "Jihad"

Here is a website everyone should see, I think anyway:

www.terrorismawareness.org/know-about-jihad/

Complete with humiliated taqiah-spewing Jew-hating terrorist apologist "syrianluv"

Im just offended that you would even start a topic like this one.

OK first of all, all arabs dont like Jews, for a number of different reasons, and you can never understand that. What happen on 911 had nothing to do with that, and no one knows for sure what exactly happen because there is alot of evidence that shows that whole thing could have been staged.

No muslim calls christians devil worshipers, which is why i said you have to stop believing everything you read and see on TV. Like i said, half of my family is christian. There are PLENTY of christians in the middle east, Lebanon is a christian country. So the attacks had nothing to do with anyones religion, so it shouldnt be brought up.

You say we are killing Americans, the Americans are killing people in Iraq all the time, and the Isreali's kill Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinians all the time as well. Its not just a one way thing.

Honestly, i dont think some of you will ever understand us...but i see some of you do, so that is good. Just remember it never had anything to do with religion. America made it about religion.

And thanks for the link to Terrorism Awareness Project BrandiRene25. Not all kids are clueless.

UK clothing store ARK was a little more honest; they called it an “Arafat scarf.”

I've always wanted to dress like an old gay terrorist. Now my fantasy comes to fruition.

I understand that Delias which previously sold the terrorist chic scarf and Alloy are the same company.

It's all part of the Saudi PR machine (and their American PR firm) that brought you the "Islamic Chic" BS in the NYPOST and now allows their female subjects (outside of Saudi) to wear multi-colored hijabs, once only associated with Malaysia, etc.

Though it's origins can be traced to loser journalists that change their stripes according to where they are reporting from.

re: #139 Sponge

re: #130 Oh no...Sand People!

YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE! ! ! !

I love Anthrax and Public Enemy! Bring the NOISE!

"Riviera Scarf" looks more like a Redneck Tablecloth on the dollar table at Big Lots to me. Just the thing when eating bbq pork spareribs. Feh!

re: #136 Sharmuta

re: #131 MandyManners

Yeah- there's a no return policy on that.

Makes me wonder what our doctors will be saying to the press once we get enough somolians here. I won't ever forget how angry/upset that one Dutch doctor got in the Infidel book written by Ayaan Hirsi Ali when he examined her sister (?).

I can't imagine being a USA doc and seeing that at an exam.

re: #127 lowandslow

OT

JammieWearingFool is pretty good at promoting himself but I just had to link to this one, check out this kooks mugshot.

Burning Man an Arson Victim

Hey, I resemble that remark.

BTW, another crowd favorite has gone viral.

Lil' Kos will not be pleased. Rumor has it we're very popular over there.

All I'll say is in another day or so, the Kiddies will not be happy. Stay tuned.

Cool they can wear them around their waists to cover up the part of their boxers that sticks up above their pants that are down around their knees. Oh and also turn your hat around and get a job.

If my 17 yr. old shows up wearing one of these scarves, it'll be known as the "chic noose that strangled the errant daugher".

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, my father--back in the late 80s--was fulminating to me about the number of keffiyahs he was seeing on people everywhere. "It's pro-PLO!" he said angrily.

My own consciousness not being quite evolved yet, I told him that he was being hypersensitive, it meant nothing, it was just a fashion statement, yadda yadda yadda.

The longer I live, the greater my respect for the man's understanding of the world, and his prescience.

Parents are always right :)

Now that I'm thinking about it, we Lizardettes should all wear "settler girl" hats and scarves to make our own fashion statement.

http://www.coveryourhair.com

http://www.savvysheitels.com

re: #127 lowandslow

That is actually a picture of our LGF poster NJDevilshockeyfan.

/he has not denied it. Must be true.

"Riviera"? What Riviera? More like the coast of Gaza.

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

With their arm pit hair coiffed like Ho Chi Minh's beard?

re: #143 Geepers

Alloy has a forum. Check out this topic titled "Jihad"

Nice find. Reads like KOS for 'tweens.

I don't know.

I am new posting here, but I lurked here for a while and have seen these stories before.
To be honest this is far less offensive to me than Che shirts. The Israelis army has these. I think giving them that much symbolic power is giving Palestinians what they want.
I got one when I worked in Egypt (mostly for halloween costumes), and I don't feel wearing it would support anyone. If I was in a dusty area I would put it on. I am not saying it isn't stupid for kids to wear in the west, but it hardly embraces any Palestinian movements.

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

re: #127 lowandslow

OT

JammieWearingFool is pretty good at promoting himself but I just had to link to this one, check out this kooks mugshot.

Burning Man an Arson Victim

Hey, I resemble that remark.

BTW, another crowd favorite has gone viral.

Lil' Kos will not be pleased. Rumor has it we're very popular over there.

All I'll say is in another day or so, the Kiddies will not be happy. Stay tuned.

Bet his momma's proud of him.

A $25,632 bond? How'd they come up with that number?

OT and self-plug:

Zionism: An Integral Part of Judaism

in which I refute the "Zionism is a 19th-century white colonial settler movement" canard (Leftist "reverse" racism, who'd've thunk it) with quotes from traditional Jewish sources, and then deliver my message on the urgency on combating Zionism Denial (the name I gave this newest of Big Lies).

re: #143 Geepers

Interesting- who'd have thought we'd find a discussion on jihad on a retailers website?

The Israelis army has these.

Che shirts?

re: #148 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #139 Sponge

re: #130 Oh no...Sand People!

YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE! ! ! !

I love Anthrax and Public Enemy! Bring the NOISE!

hellsyeah......

beat is for yoko ohno.......

Its amazing that they choose to market something from an ideology that would put them out af business and push walls on many of them. What is this desire for self destruction?

'Grandfather and Ringo are held in a police station]
Grandfather: Have they roughed you up yet?
Ringo: What?
G.: Oh, they're a desperate crew of drippings, and they've fists like mature hams for pounding poor defenseless lads like you. One of us has got to escape. I'll get the boys. Hold on, son, I'll be back here.
R.: For me?
G.: And if they get you on the floor, watch out for your brisket.
R.: They seem all right to me.
G.: Ah, sure, that's what they want you to think. All coppers are villains.
Police Inspector: Would you two like a cup of tea?
Grandfather: See, *sly* villains.'
// IMDB

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned."
Mark Twain

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

KOS may not actually have a penis yet. He looks like a female to male transexual. I am not sure if they've put in the plumbing yet.

I have enough trouble with my two teen boys not wearing belts and their pants hanging off of their butts. This is obviously for the "politically aware" teen crowd, or their idiotic parents. How bout a St. Pancake medal to go with the "peace scarf"?

I am not saying it isn't stupid for kids to wear in the west, but it hardly embraces any Palestinian movements.

I guess you should've worked in Israel and not Egypt.

I assure you, it does.

And yes, Arafat really did wear his to resemble the shape of ALL of Israel.

He would be the first to tell you that.

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

And that Fanny Ardant? She's an idiot.

re: #156 hous bin pharteen

re: #127 lowandslow

That is actually a picture of our LGF poster NJDevilshockeyfan.

/he has not denied it. Must be true.

Hey...where did you get my picture?

Western people who are attracted to this item are

"Half in love with easeful death",

and are feeling the pull of the adversary, i.e. Lucibello.

It is part of the culture of death that the Pope warns us about.

(If you want my opinion about what is going on here.)

About 12 years ago I was working for MCI in a building the held offices for international telemarketing. Lots of Russians. Every one of whom wore one of these.

In black.

Maybe it's just me, but I miss the days when these articles of clothing were called 'splodey towels.

Li'am?

re: #160 Liam76

I don't know.

I am new posting here, but I lurked here for a while and have seen these stories before.
To be honest this is far less offensive to me than Che shirts. The Israelis army has these. I think giving them that much symbolic power is giving Palestinians what they want.
I got one when I worked in Egypt (mostly for halloween costumes), and I don't feel wearing it would support anyone. If I was in a dusty area I would put it on. I am not saying it isn't stupid for kids to wear in the west, but it hardly embraces any Palestinian movements.

Welcome Liam :) .

My perspective in this is how would I view someone who wore a nazi symbol? Let's take the Diana's son who wore the nazi patch to a halloween party. His father took care of that situataion right now and he made amends to the public by saying he now understood why it was so offensive. I don't think it's about the person wearing it supporting it directly, but it's the symbolism behind it that is disturbing...these outlets should be told what they are supporting.

Most people really have no idea about the issues over there in the middle east..and I do believe there may come a day when it'll be chic to wear a nazi symbol and no one will say a word.

Never have lived in Europe, too nice for our circuits (sigh) but it's interesting listening to expats who've lived and worked there.
One woman told me, "I don't think they EAT in Europe." She said, "I was in Copenhagen two years, and my kitchen window faced my neighbors kitchen window. I swear they took all of 5 minutes to prepare their dinners and another 5 minutes to eat them. Finished. I'd have a supermarket cart loaded up with food and everyone else had no more than four or five items in their carts."
Don't try and order a Dominos Pizza in Geneva, Switzerland. One large Cheese - $45. It's really Dominos Pizza - that Domino's taste, but whooweee!
A Brit said once that a simple beer at a regular bar was $15 in Holland. He said while he was handing over the bills for just one with sweaty palms, Dutch were drinking like it was no big deal. He didn't think anyone had any savings - his theory was they just spent and had nothing left over.
Guess that "seems to work" when the State is your retirement.

Honestly have no other theory as to how they make ends meet, cause their salaries don't approach US standards - and we find Europe expensive - and it isn't all the fault of the exchange rate.

re: #162 ZionistYoungster

OT and self-plug:

Zionism: An Integral Part of Judaism

in which I refute the "Zionism is a 19th-century white colonial settler movement" canard (Leftist "reverse" racism, who'd've thunk it) with quotes from traditional Jewish sources, and then deliver my message on the urgency on combating Zionism Denial (the name I gave this newest of Big Lies).

But...but...but I thought Neturei Karte were right?

re: #171 pingjockey

I have enough trouble with my two teen boys not wearing belts and their pants hanging off of their butts. This is obviously for the "politically aware" teen crowd, or their idiotic parents. How bout a St. Pancake medal to go with the "peace scarf"?

Start wearing a t-shirt like a friend of mine used to have - it said on the front, "Pull up your pants, turn your hat around, and get a JOB!".

Heh.

re: #171 pingjockey

Take lots of pics of your boys like that.
When they ask why, tell them so you can show that to their kids and they will see how square pop was back in the day.

re: #80 wanumba
You think like I do -

I had a 69 Riviera didn't look anything like that.

re: #180 Highrise

They know what it is. They know who wears it.

re: #169 Endangered in MASS

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

KOS may not actually have a penis yet. He looks like a female to male transexual. I am not sure if they've put in the plumbing yet.

I don't wanna know.

re: #150 Highrise

I can't imagine being a USA doc and seeing that at an exam.

I can't imagine-

1) doing that to my daughter were I to ever have one
2) being the victim of such barbarity myself
3) seeing this barbarity live or on video
4) having to see the healed end results

NoSubmission (#159),

I'm always impressed with the consistency of the muslim "I'm insulted - You don't understand - Jews and Christians are just as bad (or worse) - It's justified because you hate us" response stream.

It's almost like they've been taught it from a playbook.

re: #162 ZionistYoungster

Thank you.

That drives me nuts, too.

re: #189 Sharmuta

re: #150 Highrise

I can't imagine being a USA doc and seeing that at an exam.

I can't imagine-

1) doing that to my daughter were I to ever have one
2) being the victim of such barbarity myself
3) seeing this barbarity live or on video
4) having to see the healed end results

No kidding.

It was the HARDEST page for me to read out of Infidel. Bless Ayaan Hirsi Ali and those like her. Her description of it....there are no words for what I felt.

re: #186 bulwrk

I had a 69 Riviera didn't look anything like that.

With that kick-ass torque monster 430? The only downside was the front-mounted distributor and oil pump. Too much repeated acceleration could cause oil starvation. 8-0

All hail the cyborg overlords.....
Robot Exo Suit in Action

Domo origato!

re: #189 Sharmuta

re: #150 Highrise

I can't imagine being a USA doc and seeing that at an exam.

I can't imagine-

1) doing that to my daughter were I to ever have one
2) being the victim of such barbarity myself
3) seeing this barbarity live or on video
4) having to see the healed end results

But it's a Religion of Peace...?

I would like one peace scarf & a swastika to go.

re: #185 yah

re: #80 wanumba
You think like I do -

hehe!
(:-D)

re: #190 Geepers

It's almost like they've been taught it from a playbook.

They have. They have standard responses to a number of criticisms (especially surah 4:34), but don't keep pushing them after that- they get mad.

re: #187 Ben Hur

re: #180 Highrise

They know what it is. They know who wears it.

You are probably right that the businesses know the symbolism behind it. I guess part of me just wishes it was some dumb arse buyer (been around a few of them) that didn't think. I think from what I've read, Urban Outfitters is the only one to actually remove it..the others..just renamed after being told /rolls eyes.

re: #195 Oh no...Sand People!

Yes- a piece of me there, another piece there....

re: #190 Geepers

NoSubmission (#159),

I'm always impressed with the consistency of the muslim "I'm insulted - You don't understand - Jews and Christians are just as bad (or worse) - It's justified because you hate us" response stream.

It's almost like they've been taught it from a playbook.

They have.

re: #183 Ward Cleaver

re: #184 hous bin pharteen

I know, saw a sign the other day; "hire a teenager now while they know everything". Lol. Got a picture of my two younger brothers and me, circa 1966, we have "engineer"(fonz) boots, levis rolled up twice(cuffed) white t-shirts with the sleeves rolled up and, GASP! we each have a pack of candy cigarettes in our left shirt sleeve. We look cool, whereas my boys look like wannabe gangstas.

Is there anything more irritating on this Earth than a teenager with a social conscience ?

I don't know whose quotation it was , but he clearly must have met yoof who wore these rags

Is this some kind of fundraiser?
The profits of the sales of these things go to finance charities bombings in the mideast?

I have a 15-year-old who gets the Alloy catalog. I just contacted them to advise them they probably do NOT want to be selling this item, as it is a symbol of death. Also directed them to remove my daughter from their maililng list. Holding my breath awaiting their response.

re: #169 Endangered in MASS

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

KOS may not actually have a penis yet. He looks like a female to male transexual. I am not sure if they've put in the plumbing yet.

That is true, but he's a tool, nonetheless.

Do a Google image search for that little puke and you'll have a good laugh.

BTW, the Yankees may only be playing for the WC at this point, but how'd you like Joba's stuff last night?

Babying him along with the "Joba rules" is about to go out the window pretty soon.

re: #192 Highrise

I will never forget the word picture burnt into my memory when I first read a beautiful young woman's description of it happening to her --it was years ago, in the Reader's Digest, I think.....and the worst of it was the mother's betrayal in not only allowing it.....but holding her daughter down for the "witch doctor".... ):

re: #182 Oh no...Sand People!

Interestingly, the Neturei Karta don't dispute that the Land of Israel belongs to the Jews; what they disagree with is the state of Israel, or more accurately, ending the Diaspora through human means instead of waiting for miraculous divine action. The Leftists gladly copy their talking points, but they pick and choose, ignoring those statements of the NK's that aren't conducive to their goal.

It's an ugly scarf. Maybe that should be it's new name: An Ugly Scarf.

re: #205 reine.de.tout

Good on ya! :)

re: #203 pass the moonbaticide

Great nic.

re: #202 pingjockey

You could also just pull the things down from behind in public.
A buddy of mine used to do that to his son.
That was some funny shit, that was.

re: #178 Ben Hur

Li'am?

Liam, like liam neeson.

But my wife is jewish and it took her dad about a year to pronounce it as one syllable.

Sharmuta (#198),

Geez, you'd think that at this point you'd know when I was being facetious. ;-)

re: #208 ZionistYoungster

re: #182 Oh no...Sand People!

Interestingly, the Neturei Karta don't dispute that the Land of Israel belongs to the Jews; what they disagree with is the state of Israel, or more accurately, ending the Diaspora through human means instead of waiting for miraculous divine action. The Leftists gladly copy their talking points, but they pick and choose, ignoring those statements of the NK's that aren't conducive to their goal.

Wow...so they are akin to certain Christian denominations who believe that all medicine is bad and that if God wills the child/person/whoever to live then God will do so? So kind of a 'Suicide by Principle'?

Well now, the peace symbol, the Pali schmatte, Che, Mao, and who knows how many other symbols of the left become chic. It's trendy to look radical and dangerous.

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

Yea that was one hell of a car at the time it was the choice of lowriders in So Cal and I had it stolen out of my driveway.

In defense of the rising generation, they have embraced South Park and it's strident anti-PC message.

There is still hope.

re: #212 hous bin pharteen That'd work. I like the cop shows when one of these pissants tries to run and his pants fall down and trip them. But I'd rather put up with baggy pants than having one of them come home with one of these rags on their heads.

"This is the perfect accessory to my Mao handbag!"

Sincerely,
Comrade Diaz

re: #180 Highrise

Welcome Liam :) .

My perspective in this is how would I view someone who wore a nazi symbol? Let's take the Diana's son who wore the nazi patch to a halloween party. His father took care of that situataion right now and he made amends to the public by saying he now understood why it was so offensive. I don't think it's about the person wearing it supporting it directly, but it's the symbolism behind it that is disturbing...these outlets should be told what they are supporting.

Most people really have no idea about the issues over there in the middle east..and I do believe there may come a day when it'll be chic to wear a nazi symbol and no one will say a word.

The nazi symbol and this scarf (even if you accept it as a symbol for hammas) are on completely different levels in terms of what they stand for. I am no fan of palestine, but they do have a right to exist and are struggling (mostly because of their own behavior, I believe in almost all cases Israel is justified in what they do).

Also the swastika is a pretty unmistakable symbol, and only gained prominence with the Nazi party. This is a checkered scarf that has been worn for hundreds if not thousands of years that can come in a variety of colors. that makes it much ahrder to argue anyone who wears it must be behind palestine.

re: #195 Oh no...Sand People!,

Islam is a Cult, not a culture.

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

re: #186 bulwrk

I had a 69 Riviera didn't look anything like that.

With that kick-ass torque monster 430? The only downside was the front-mounted distributor and oil pump. Too much repeated acceleration could cause oil starvation. 8-0

I liked the 63-65 Rivieras myself. :)

Know what shirt I'd like to start selling? Pinochet!

re: #214 Geepers

Sharmuta (#198),

Geez, you'd think that at this point you'd know when I was being facetious. ;-)

LOL- sorry. I'm lacking the nuance today to understand.

/I think I need a nap.

the symbol of Palestinian terrorism and murder, the kaffiyeh...

is what some of our supposed ( so I have been told ) partners in peace wear on their heads!

The Palestinian people and worst of all Abbas have been whitewashed to the point of complete and utter sanitizing by our government leaders, aka President BAKER/RICE Bush etc., etc.

How we can expect higher standards of truth and honor from Madison Avenue when the best friend of Israel (so I have been told) behaves more and more like Jimmy Carter every day?!

BUT WAIT...
You can even order a Blackhawk tactical kaffiyeh Shmatah ;- } at ARMY SURPLUS all over the WEB!

Not only is it a headdress, but it is a comfy sweat mop, dust wiper and field towel when needed

LOL and for those who are personally challenged as how to twirl it into position, ONE can find instructions . ( pretend non-RoP model not included however)

In all seriousness I would not mop my kitchen floor with one. I am so angry with the RoP and all their appeasers I could spit. Having said that
when all you hear is ONLY A FEW WISH TO HIJACK PEACE it is no wonder the clueless and the LL"let's give peace a chance" crew choose this as their newest fashion statement.

Almost as tasty as feasting on ice cream. (from my lips to the precious exalted spleens ears!)

Anyone else notice the shape in the positioning of the "Riviera scarf" in the ad?

It's either a devout muslim knelt in obadence to his imam overlord praying or an IDF soldier bound with his hands behind his back in anticipation of "talks" and "diplomacy."

re: #217 bulwrk

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

Yea that was one hell of a car at the time it was the choice of lowriders in So Cal and I had it stolen out of my driveway.

I went to high school in the '70s with a guy that drove a '69 Riv. That gold color, with black vinyl top and interior. He also had a '57 Chevy pickup. He threatened to drive to the prom in an 18-wheel tractor (his dad owned an excavation business, so my friend already had a CDL), but sadly, he didn't go through with it.

Just start calling them "Shin Bet undercover scarves" and point out how Israeli counter-terrorism operatives wear them when on missions in the West Bank and Gaza to take out terrorist targets. That'll make 'em positively radioactive to Western fashionistas.

re: #217 bulwrk

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

Yea that was one hell of a car at the time it was the choice of lowriders in So Cal and I had it stolen out of my driveway.

That's why I don't get an 80's Regal. The lowrider crowd is snapping them up since the Cutlasses and Chevy's are too expensive.

re: #222 Iron Fist

re: #195 Oh no...Sand People!,

Islam is a Cult, not a culture.

No argument there.

re: #223 Hard Right

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

re: #186 bulwrk

I had a 69 Riviera didn't look anything like that.

With that kick-ass torque monster 430? The only downside was the front-mounted distributor and oil pump. Too much repeated acceleration could cause oil starvation. 8-0

I liked the 63-65 Rivieras myself. :)

Know what shirt I'd like to start selling? Pinochet!

Oooh, a '65 Gran Sport, with the dual fours. I almost bought one once, for $3500.

That Pinochet shirt would sure piss off the lefties. Maybe with a picture of the sailing ship Esmeralda on the back, for good measure.

/hee hee

re: #188 Ward Cleaver

Indeed

If I had two of these things I'd crap on one and cover it up with the other.

So, here is what Alloy has to say about their "Riviera" scarf -

Both responses arrived at the same time:

I.Auto Response (Number Removed)

Dear Alloy Customer,

Thank you for contacting us at Alloy.com. We will be happy to assist
you with any questions you may have.

One of our customer service representatives will personally answer your
e-mail within 24 hours.

Remember, you can always check your order status online:

[Link: store.delias.com...]

Alloy Customer Service

II. Out of Office AutoReply: HELP: other_req

Dear Alloy Customer,

Thank you for contacting us at Alloy.com.

We are currently experiencing a delay in response time due to system upgrades. One of our customer service representatives will personally answer your e-mail within the next 72 hours.

Remember, you can always check your order status online:

[Link: store.alloy.com...]

Thank you,
Alloy Customer Service

re: #206 JammieWearingFool

"BTW, the Yankees may only be playing for the WC at this point, but how'd you like Joba's stuff last night?"

Ask JD Drew.

What a freaking stiff. I detest him as much as Bung Hole Kim and Matt Young. Drew that is. Joba's the real deal.

Joba's is to the Yankees this year what Papelbon was to the Sox in '05.

re: #215 Oh no...Sand People!

No, it's not an all-pervading thing with them, it's rather particular. Their founder, rabbi Yoel Moshe Teitelboim, took one passage (from one of the books of the prophets, I think, not from the Torah) and interpreted it as a conclusive rule against Zionism. Teitelboim wasn't unique in opposing Zionism (most Ultra-Orthodox Jews did until the last few decades), but he stood out from the rest in being unwilling to compromise with the facts on the ground. Others said, "The state of Israel is now a fait accompli, so we'll have to go with it"; Teitelboim was vehement in his insistence that the state of Israel not be acknowledged. He may well have been the source for the Leftists' now fashionable charge that "Israel was born in sin" (it always gets me how those Marxists use such religious language), because he truly believed that and said so.

One of our ancient sages said, "Sages, be careful with your words". There is no better demonstration than here: the NK's eccentric and uncompromising way may by now have the blood of countless Jews on its record. The other Ultra-Orthodox groups, in contrast, have not succumbed to that hard-heartedness, knowing that an ideological dispute is no excuse for providing aid and comfort to the enemy. Neturei Karta are a blot on Judaism.

How about calling it the 'Tard Scarf -- "Impress your friends by looking like a complete 'tard!"

Well, At least is isn't BLUE and white. yet..........

re: #231 Ward Cleaver

re: #223 Hard Right

re: #193 Ward Cleaver

re: #186 bulwrk

I had a 69 Riviera didn't look anything like that.

With that kick-ass torque monster 430? The only downside was the front-mounted distributor and oil pump. Too much repeated acceleration could cause oil starvation. 8-0

I liked the 63-65 Rivieras myself. :)
Know what shirt I'd like to start selling? Pinochet!

Oooh, a '65 Gran Sport, with the dual fours. I almost bought one once, for $3500.

That Pinochet shirt would sure piss off the lefties. Maybe with a picture of the sailing ship Esmeralda on the back, for good measure.

/hee hee

65 Riv GS, droooooollll. Now I'd have to sell a kidney to afford one. Hmm, time to find a heavy drinking roomate...

Nice touch on the shirt, btw.

Jihad of the Mediterranean:

On a Turkish ship with 800 young slaves returning from Anatolia to be sold in the slave markets of Istanbul, Amalda de Rocas threw a burning stick into the powder magazine. The caliph was denied.

Amalda understood.

/Death first!

re: #234 galloping granny

We are currently experiencing a delay in response time due to system upgrades. One of our customer service representatives will personally answer your e-mail within the next 72 hours.

Gee- "response" issues, huh?

/A few too many emails, I imagine.

re: #236 ZionistYoungster

I saw the pic of one of them shaking Achmadinnerjacket's hand. I have never witnessed a group so full of self loathing at their own very existence. And over what...a FRICKIN TECHNICALITY!? Morons. They should be removed and put in Hollywood where they belong. Those Pseudo self righteous freaks. I wish I lived in New York to see these idiots protest...oh wait...no I don't.

From #225 selpaw I left this out

Again, ( pretend non-RoP model not included however)

re: #160 Liam76

Wearing a keffiyah is a modern form of wearing a swastika. Arafat had one on that he folded to look like the map of Israel (not all of "Palestine). The Arab 'shabab'/terrorists wear them over their faces. That this is being marketed to teenagers should bother you AT LEAST as much as Che shirts-and those suck, too.

re: #192 Highrise

An unforgettable passage. Should be required reading.

re: #221 Liam76

The nazi symbol and this scarf (even if you accept it as a symbol for hammas) are on completely different levels in terms of what they stand for. I am no fan of palestine, but they do have a right to exist and are struggling (mostly because of their own behavior, I believe in almost all cases Israel is justified in what they do).

Also the swastika is a pretty unmistakable symbol, and only gained prominence with the Nazi party. This is a checkered scarf that has been worn for hundreds if not thousands of years that can come in a variety of colors. that makes it much ahrder to argue anyone who wears it must be behind palestine.

I'm not so sure they are on that different of levels...both are death symbols..no? What does this have to do with palestinians having a right to live? That isn't what this is about and clouds the issue. Have you by chance read Nekama's troll hammer?

The swastika is an unmistakeable symbol of course...and so would this scarf if people were really educated and told the truth about what it represents.

I don't think anyone is saying that the person wearing it probably knows what it is for, but the symbolism IS there on and that is not deniable I don't think. Why would Urban Outfitters yank the product? They obviously knew something wasn't right. Why would other outlets try to market it as a peace scarf? Tells me they know what side they want to promote.

Also, some idiot principal in NY tried to back shirts that said NYC Intifada...by saying that intifada meant *shaking off* and no one should be offended. She was forced to step down..and her supporters were trying to downplay the pali aspect of it...they obviously were palestinian supporters.

re: #243 selpaw

SELPAWWWWWW

It also doubles as a very effective gag should your woman(or women?) decide to get a little uppity and start mouthing off about receiving an education, not walking 10 paces behind you,avoiding FGM, going out alone, arguing against being stoned as a rape victim,etc....

Hurry now,supplies are limited!

re: #244 WriterMom I have che shirt. But, it has a big red circle and slash and says "Commies aren't cool". Tends to cause head turning.

Here's a site that's a good antidote to Alloy, et al!

www.FUNKYFRUM.COM

re: #192 Highrise

It's still on my to read list (mine never shrinks it seems) but I doubt I will be able to read that. Thanks for the warning.

re: #242 Oh no...Sand People!

I have never witnessed a group so full of self loathing at their own very existence. And over what...a FRICKIN TECHNICALITY!? Morons.

That's a very Jewish point you make here, even if you didn't know it.

Our sages give one of the reasons why God destroyed the Second Temple: "Because they (=the Jews) based their courts on the judgment of the Torah". One of the sages poses the obvious question: "Were they supposed to base their courts on the judgment of thieves?" And then comes the answer: the emphasis is not on the word "Torah", but on the word "judgment"--they based their courts on judgment, leaving no room for mercy. They were obsessed with technicalities, and refused to compromise for the sake of maintaining peace and love between brothers.

That's exactly what you've observed about the NK's: even if they're right in their interpretation, they're stuck with the technicality, while all the other Jews, even those who aren't all that enamored with modern Zionism, decided to let go of that uncompromising path for the sake of unity.

The NK's afterlife is going to be much worse than that of a Jew who eats pork all his life long.

re: #249 pingjockey

Funny.

re: #247 WriterMom

BIG HUGS!

Painting kaffiyehs on Reapers may cut their appeal

Wait a minute! I see the image of the Virgin Mary in that "Euro Scarf!"

re: #181 wanumba

Never have lived in Europe, too nice for our circuits (sigh) but it's interesting listening to expats who've lived and worked there.
One woman told me, "I don't think they EAT in Europe." She said, "I was in Copenhagen two years, and my kitchen window faced my neighbors kitchen window. I swear they took all of 5 minutes to prepare their dinners and another 5 minutes to eat them. Finished. I'd have a supermarket cart loaded up with food and everyone else had no more than four or five items in their carts."
Don't try and order a Dominos Pizza in Geneva, Switzerland. One large Cheese - $45. It's really Dominos Pizza - that Domino's taste, but whooweee!
A Brit said once that a simple beer at a regular bar was $15 in Holland. He said while he was handing over the bills for just one with sweaty palms, Dutch were drinking like it was no big deal. He didn't think anyone had any savings - his theory was they just spent and had nothing left over.
Guess that "seems to work" when the State is your retirement.

Honestly have no other theory as to how they make ends meet, cause their salaries don't approach US standards - and we find Europe expensive - and it isn't all the fault of the exchange rate.

This brings back memories when I was in the US six years ago for several months. All my colleagues couldn't believe how 'little' (their words) I ate. We would go out dining and it was a running joke how I would gasp when I served what seemed to me as humongous portions. Honestly, enough food to eat for three days. They still laugh about the time when I attempted to eat a cheese steak at a diner with a knife and fork (I couldn't figure out how else one could eat such an immense dish). And I was always asking 'Don't you have a smaller size?' when getting an ice-cream, fizzy-drink, etc.
Just one of those different cultural things.
And yes, America does have a much higher standard of living. Cars! Big houses! Wow! Although it amuse me to learn that Brits are not allowed to participate in the US Govt's Green card lottery. I guess that unlike Saudis. Afghans, and Bangladeshis (all on the list), we're just not 'diverse' enough. Ha!

Just one note that might complicate this one.

I spent considerable time on the phone with a supervisor for one of the other store chains that sold a direct copy of the Palestinian kefiyeh, and within perhaps an hour, they removed it.

I'm not sure I would win this argument so easily. This scarf is red with tassels and is actually associated more with Bedouin and the Saudis, not the Palestinians.

There is even an elite Israeli army unit that wears it, the Bedouin Seyeret. King Abdullah and his army wear it -- Fatah and Hamas do not.

On the other hand, it has nothing to do with the "Riviera".

re: #246 Highrise

re: #221 Liam76

The nazi symbol and this scarf (even if you accept it as a symbol for hammas) are on completely different levels in terms of what they stand for. I am no fan of palestine, but they do have a right to exist and are struggling (mostly because of their own behavior, I believe in almost all cases Israel is justified in what they do).
Also the swastika is a pretty unmistakable symbol, and only gained prominence with the Nazi party. This is a checkered scarf that has been worn for hundreds if not thousands of years that can come in a variety of colors. that makes it much ahrder to argue anyone who wears it must be behind palestine.

I'm not so sure they are on that different of levels...both are death symbols..no? What does this have to do with palestinians having a right to live? That isn't what this is about and clouds the issue. Have you by chance read Nekama's troll hammer?

The swastika is an unmistakeable symbol of course...and so would this scarf if people were really educated and told the truth about what it represents.

I don't think anyone is saying that the person wearing it probably knows what it is for, but the symbolism IS there on and that is not deniable I don't think. Why would Urban Outfitters yank the product? They obviously knew something wasn't right. Why would other outlets try to market it as a peace scarf? Tells me they know what side they want to promote.

Also, some idiot principal in NY tried to back shirts that said NYC Intifada...by saying that intifada meant *shaking off* and no one should be offended. She was forced to step down..and her supporters were trying to downplay the pali aspect of it...they obviously were palestinian supporters.

You can make the arguemnt that it is a death symbol but, and I am not defending groups like hamas here, what the nazi's did is several orders of magnitude worse than what palestenians are doing.

Also I can't get over the fact that scarfs like this have been around for hundreds of years and just because some lunatics use it to mask their face, all of a sudden anyone who wears it is supposed to support the lunatics? I mean if they are wearing it like araft, that is one thing, but just keeping sand out of your mouth is completely different.

I will take back my "right to live" statement. People who might wear it for that reason, even though they don't support extremists probably don't understand what is going on there, and once you wear somehting like this for political reasons your arguments about it being a death symbol are pretty spot on.

re: #259 Liam76

You can make the arguemnt that it is a death symbol but, and I am not defending groups like hamas here, what the nazi's did is several orders of magnitude worse than what palestenians are doing.

To be very clear here...I'm talking about the DEATH symbolism...not magnitude of how many deaths at this point in time...

That is what is being discussed here. I do think Urban Outfitters got it though...they yanked it.

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re: #7 Sponge

This reminds me of the dolts that go out and get a tattoo of some chinese or japanese symbols because they think it stands for something.....then when someone translates it, it turns out to be 'stuffed chicken' or something.

/The kids are sheep

That reminds me of two things.

One: "Bite the wax tadpole." Which is what Coca-Cola was often transliterated into by Chinese shopkeepers, until Coke's research department *finally* came up with a set of characters that sounded sort of like "cocacola" but didn't mean anything stupid.

Two: I have an acquaintance or two who understand a little Arabic. They told me that vendors in tourist areas in the Middle East would try to sell them necklaces and other trinkets that supposedly spell your name or your girlfriend's name but actually spell out "whore" or something like that.

Never wear a foreign symbol without doing your research!

They are just overstocked! The Pali's produced too many kaffieh's because they were expecting to breed faster, until they found out it still takes 9 months....

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If they protest something, anything, they are vital, they have a reason for being alive. If they co-opt someone else's anger, rage or passion, at least they can feel something. Otherwise their interior landscape is flat, frighteningly without significance or depth. I would pity these shells of humanity but they are so freaking loathsome that I won't waste the energy on it. (I have my own rages and passions, hence don't have to borrow or beg from anyone else.)

I'll admit that I own two of those scarves. The red and white one, I bought someplace in saudi and used as a rag to wipe my sweating brow, or around my neck to absorb the sweat. The second one I own is a white and black one, which a former student of mine (who is kurdish) gave me. I wear neither, although I remember in the '80s I used to see alot of young german people in leather jackets with these scarves wrapped around their necks. We had a halloween dance when I was in highschool and a friend of mine went as a "terrorist" with bdu pants, black tshirt and splodeydope scarf. The security police made him stop at the main gate and ripped his car apart! Now, even back in the 80's people knew what the damn thing stands for.
I don't think I'd ever wear one in the intended way, but when I was living in the sandbox, it was quite a nice light rag and would dry up really fast. It beat the heck out of the GI towels and/or washcloths other people carried.

re: #265 baconeatingkaffir

I'll admit that I own two of those scarves. The red and white one, I bought someplace in saudi and used as a rag to wipe my sweating brow, or around my neck to absorb the sweat. The second one I own is a white and black one, which a former student of mine (who is kurdish) gave me. I wear neither, although I remember in the '80s I used to see alot of young german people in leather jackets with these scarves wrapped around their necks. We had a halloween dance when I was in highschool and a friend of mine went as a "terrorist" with bdu pants, black tshirt and splodeydope scarf. The security police made him stop at the main gate and ripped his car apart! Now, even back in the 80's people knew what the damn thing stands for.
I don't think I'd ever wear one in the intended way, but when I was living in the sandbox, it was quite a nice light rag and would dry up really fast. It beat the heck out of the GI towels and/or washcloths other people carried.

The swastika was once a happy Buddhist and Native American good luck symbol.

re: #262 lurking faith

re: #7 Sponge

This reminds me of the dolts that go out and get a tattoo of some chinese or japanese symbols because they think it stands for something.....then when someone translates it, it turns out to be 'stuffed chicken' or something.

/The kids are sheep

That reminds me of two things.

One: "Bite the wax tadpole." Which is what Coca-Cola was often transliterated into by Chinese shopkeepers, until Coke's research department *finally* came up with a set of characters that sounded sort of like "cocacola" but didn't mean anything stupid.

Two: I have an acquaintance or two who understand a little Arabic. They told me that vendors in tourist areas in the Middle East would try to sell them necklaces and other trinkets that supposedly spell your name or your girlfriend's name but actually spell out "whore" or something like that.

Never wear a foreign symbol without doing your research!

Why do people wear things with foreign words on them that they don't understand? Maybe, it's just a Turkish thing. I've seen Turkish teenagers running around with "De Puta Madre" tshirts. My alltime favorite was when I saw a headscarfed woman wearing a German t-shirt which said "Schlampe". Ahahahaha.

When I stumbled on this today I could not believe they were calling it the "Riviera Scarf"

WTF is that suppsoed to mean?
That Arafat wore it while lounging on the Riviera?

WTF was in the head of the guy putting the catalog page together?
OOOOOOOooOOOoo I know let's call it the Riviera Scarf and those friggin Abominable Lizards and Zionist Spleens won't find it... and all the kids will think it's some harmless cool jet set French thing....

Unreal.

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

goes great with a Che T-Shirt, a red star handbag, and cammie pants. Seen at all the best troofer/activist rallies.

*Pots and pans and stupid banners sold separately

I wear a shirt like this instead of the Che T shirt

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