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Massive Christian Riots Rock Australia (Not Really)

Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:20:04 pm PDT

Australian Christians poured out of churches across the country, smashing store windows and setting fire to cars, chanting “Death to the Blake Society!” after an art competition included images of the Virgin Mary in a burqa, and Osama bin Laden morphing into Jesus Christ.

Oh, wait. No they didn’t.

CONTROVERSY has erupted over two entries in a prestigious art competition, one which depicts the Virgin Mary in a burqa and an image of Osama bin Laden which morphs into Jesus.

The work’s have been entered into Australia’s top religious art competition, the Blake Prize. Prime Minister John Howard has been critical of the inclusion of the works, which he said were insulting and lacked any artistic merit, News Ltd reports. “The choice of such artwork is gratuitously offensive to the religious beliefs of many Australians,” he said.

But the Uniting Church minister who chairs the Blake Society said his mission was to spark debate about spirituality in a world that was “cynical, degraded and in crisis”. Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity. “It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

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1 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:21:00pm

Don't take it sitting down, COZ!

2 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:22:00pm

Christophobia!

3 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:22:34pm
Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity. “It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.


/Artists are such bold, intrepid souls.

4 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:22:36pm

Kind of reminiscent of that minister you mentioned a couple of weeks back that thought we should all call YHWH "allah" - spit.

BTW - I AM insulted at the bin ladin -------> Jesus Christ. Really insulted.

5 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:23:00pm

Any photos of said 'art'?

6 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:24:33pm

They rejected my entry of the Prophet morphing into a camel turd.

7 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:24:39pm

Hell, lets burn some Renaults.

8 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:24:44pm
an image of Osama bin Laden which morphs into Jesus.

Like so much postmodern art, it's simply meaningless crap posing as profound insight.

9 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:24:49pm

Sorry for the OT, but there were real riots requiring a curfew near the Taj Mahal after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle.

The clashes erupted after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle early Wednesday morning, when large numbers of Muslims were out celebrating the festival of Shab-e-Barat, visiting graveyards of their kin and praying for forgiveness. A crowd chased the truck and set it on fire, according to the local police.

The crowds swelled. Other vehicles were burned, including a fire truck, and clashes with the police broke out. One person was killed. All told, 25 people, including firemen and policemen, were injured, according to Sita Ram Meena, the state’s most senior government official in charge of Agra.

The local authorities suggested that the truck was not supposed to have entered the road where the revelers were gathered. “We will investigate how it happened,” said J. N. Chamber, home secretary of Uttar Pradesh state, where Agra is located.

Okay - it appears to be an accident, but riots ensue anyways. The Times report glosses over who exactly was rioting...

10 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:25:18pm

Morf Momo into a pig and see what happens.

11 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:25:28pm

More casualties in the War on Terror™.....


Bomb squad kills cats
(warning: Exploding Kitten Video)


A cardboard box was left on the sidewalk on Kanalboyu
Street in Malatya...

Police are at the scene upon notification by locals. The
bomb squad cordoned off the area. Everybody waited
curiously. The specialist placed the detonator and here
was the awaited moment...

However with the explosion, curiosity turned a shock...
There were two cats in the box. While the cats thought to
be the mother and her kitten were writhing in pain,
exclamations of shock and screams were heard in the
area. While everybody including the bomb squad were
shocked, it was a janitor that took action immediately...
He quickly removed the cats that were still alive...

Police are now investigating who put the cats in the box...

Very sad.

12 CriticalBlue  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:25:32pm

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.


I like that below the belt shot.

13 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:25:46pm

Rage Boy?

But seriously, I'm sure the MSM will concentrate on the similarities of outrage, yet whitewash the differences of actions.

14 pingjockey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:25:48pm

"Christians don't look at art" Well no, not this offensive vile dreck. If the artists really wanted to cutting edge they should've used mo ham head(pigs be upon him).

15 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:26:31pm
“It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

Unfortunate, cowardly, hypocritical- plenty of adjectives to describe this "art".

16 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:26:38pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Or how 4 men were riding 1 motorcycle.

17 Sponge  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:26:57pm

Why are artists such douchebags?

18 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:27:29pm

"...Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal...”

And with exhibitions like this, I guess we can expect "the Christian community" to look at art EVEN LESS in the future.

.

19 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:27:51pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Sorry for the OT, but there were real riots requiring a curfew near the Taj Mahal after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle.


How do you get four guys on a motorcycle? Might limit visibility and control...(?)
They likely careened into the truck themselves.

20 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:05pm

My offendometer rarely goes off at the insults to Chistianity any more, as they've become all too commonplace.

Though the reactions to a true offense such as this and those feigned reactions to cartoons as an excuse to murder and riot are most illustrative.

21 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:08pm

I wonder, how long has being offensive been an acceptable substitute for artistic talent and imaginative design?

22 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:17pm

re: #7 maddogg

LOL!

23 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:33pm

re: #17 Sponge

Why are artists such douchebags?


Not all of us are like that! Some of us actually know right from wrong.

24 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:43pm

re: #16 Ben Hur

re: #9 lawhawk

Or how 4 men were riding 1 motorcycle.

Well, I wondered about that as well. Other reports have the four men simply walking along when the truck hit 'em.

25 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:47pm
“It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,”


Um.....I wonder why they do do that.....?


/ not. :)

26 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:57pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn't expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn't look at art a great deal”.

haha...if this was my Reverend, I'd dump him. He's too dumb if he doesn't think this would have caused controvery.

27 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:28:57pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

It wasn't completely obvious from the schmuck who shook the box first.

That was one of the most unprofessional jobs ever, and was merely for show.

Idiots.

28 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:29:42pm

re: #19 RTLM

re: #9 lawhawk


Sorry for the OT, but there were real riots requiring a curfew near the Taj Mahal after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle.

How do you get four guys on a motorcycle? Might limit visibility and control...(?)
They likely careened into the truck themselves.

Man, didn't you read National Geographic when you were a kid? Muslims can get whole families of 8 or more on a Honda 50.

29 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:29:44pm
Osama bin Laden morphing into Jesus Christ

I'm surprised the Muslims haven't rioted over their patron saint being turned into Christ.

30 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:29:49pm

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

That is one of the most stoopidist statements I have read in a long, long, while.

...........and this guy knows about art?
/bangs head on desk....

31 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:30:16pm

Christifada?

32 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:30:37pm
“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

And we get in trouble for blanket statements...

33 Sponge  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:30:42pm

re: #23 NoSubmission

I didn't mean to imply that all were, just the ones that get pub.....

I'm now wondering if the US governmant will give this guy money......

34 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:30:53pm

re: #21 maddogg

I wonder, how long has being offensive been an acceptable substitute for artistic talent and imaginative design?

I'm reminded of The Kid's first artistic efforts. It involved the contents of his nappy and fingers.

35 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:31:23pm
Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity. “It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

That is why Christians, Jews, Buddhists, etc can all live in modern societies. There's no expectation that others must revere their gods. I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

36 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:31:31pm

re: #30 hous bin pharteen

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

That is one of the most stoopidist statements I have read in a long, long, while.

...........and this guy knows about art?
/bangs head on desk....

Let's give him a state!

37 turn  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:31:47pm

“because the Christian community doesn't’t look at art a great dealthe way a radical Islamic would”.

/fixed that for ya Reverend

38 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:32:11pm

It's art because we are talking about it.

That was the goal.

But nowm, they will look and scream, SEE? SEE? YOU DON'T LIKE IT EITHER!

39 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:32:40pm

re: #16 Ben Hur

re: #9 lawhawk

Or how 4 men were riding 1 motorcycle.

I've seen entire families of 6 on one motorcycle in the Philippines; Dad driving, daughter in front of him, son on gas tank, Mother sitting backwards in the back with a toddler on her lap....Baby on handlebars (held in place by son on gas tank).

Here's a picture of 5 on one.

40 kirche  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:32:49pm

"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”."

and how does he determine of those viewing the art who are christians?

41 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:02pm

re: #33 Sponge
Behead those who insult artists!

/

In all seriousness... most artists today really ARE douchebags.

42 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:05pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal...”

When I walk those fabulous museums across America and look at the beautiful work from Europe during the Renaissance period, who does Reverend Rod think painted them? Muslims?

Oh, and as an Evangelical, who has been mocked and called about everything in the book via the web for my faith, to the Blake society:

You're going to have to try a lot harder than this to offend. This doesn't even get me up to rock throwing.

43 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:07pm

re: #7 maddogg

Hell, lets burn some Renaults.

Thats just what Renault wants. If we're really clever...we'll only burn Toyotas.

44 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:22pm

re: #27 Ben Hur

I can't believe that nobody heard meowing or movement in the box. A box full of kittens is noisy and active.

45 Golem Akbar  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:23pm

re: #17 Sponge

Why are artists such douchebags?

Believe it or not, Shock Art really sells. Sadly.

46 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:33:33pm

re: #28 maddogg
Missed the Honda 50 - too busy gawking at the other stuff. ;)

47 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:00pm

re: #40 kirche

"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”."

and how does he determine of those viewing the art who are christians?

By last weeks collection plate...hope he goes bankrupt...

48 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:06pm

re: #45 Golem Akbar


Shock Art.

AKA

Shart.

49 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:19pm

............art that Christians don't look at.

[Link: msopal29.myweb.uga.edu...]

[Link: lazysud.files.wordpress.com...]

I don't think this guy should be fired because of letting that art into his contest.
He should be fired for being incredibly stupid.

50 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:37pm

The juxtaposition is deafening!

51 red satellite  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:44pm

“It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

And that LIGHTBULB finally came on- when?

52 socalinfidel  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:34:52pm

Thank god for freedom of speech and muslims respecting art....I would like to call my new piece the "converting Quran" Basically its a quran that morphs into a machine gun and kills infidels....I better be careful as I design it cause I wouldnt want to get hurt....but its a perfect quran because it does what muhammad said to do....oh wait, I should make it ask to have the people convert beforehand or pay the jizya and be a dhimmi....damn, back to the drawing board

53 Golem Akbar  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:25pm

re: #48 Ben Hur

re: #45 Golem Akbar


Shock Art.

AKA

Shart.


AKA: no talent.

54 Sponge  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:30pm

re: #45 Golem Akbar

And I'm sure we ALL know EXACTLY who's buying that crap.........

55 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:37pm

re: #48 Ben Hur

re: #45 Golem Akbar


Shock Art.

AKA

Shart.

I once figuratively shat on some Shart

56 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:39pm

re: #41 NoSubmission

Unfortunately art (and music) has become realm of wealthy children. There's no training or hard work involved, the only requirement is a trust fund.

57 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:46pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

The ummah looks at art even less- except of course when it can be used as an excuse to seethe and riot.

58 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:48pm

re: #3 RTLM

They really are.

/Unless confronted with beheading

59 Sponge  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:35:53pm

re: #48 Ben Hur

re: #45 Golem Akbar


Shock Art.

AKA

Shart.

Ok.....you owe me a keyboard......

60 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:36:17pm
61 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:36:44pm

re: #53 Golem Akbar

Cough fart.

a.k.a.

Cart.

I once shat during a cart.

62 Geepers  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:37:00pm
But the Uniting Church minister who chairs the Blake Society said his mission was to spark debate about spirituality in a world that was “cynical, degraded and in crisis”.

And how do you do that? Why by presenting cynical and degrading "art" of course.

I hate "art" that is made to "spark debates" and the morons who use it in their "mission" even more.

63 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:37:35pm

To quote a movie seen ages ago, with Richard Burton as Thomas Becket, and Peter O'Toole as King Henry II (Eleanor of Aquitaine's husband, father of Kings Richard and the disastrous John):

"Oh, God, how hard thy honor is to bear."

This, while dying of stab wounds in front of the altar of Cantebury Cathedral.

64 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:38:00pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

No, it should be taken for what it is.

sac·ri·lege - n. Desecration, profanation, misuse, or theft of something sacred.

65 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:38:25pm
The work’s have been entered into Australia’s top religious art competition

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!

66 DerKrieger  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:38:51pm

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

That's because we're all Neandertals. Sheesh!

Such braaave "artists". I'd love to get their names so I can mock their cowardice.

67 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:38:57pm

Where's Gordon, to offer some perspective?

68 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:39:00pm

re: #60 Ringo the Gringo

The fat twin on the back of the Guiness Book of World Records still has this whole family outweighed by 342 pounds.

69 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:39:25pm

re: #64 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Unless you can establish some sort of Christian Caliphate you're going to have a hard time passing blasphemy laws.

70 commander_vimes  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:39:41pm

re: #40 kirche

"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”."

and how does he determine of those viewing the art who are christians?

Perhaps he's been trying to sell his own artwork to his congregation...

71 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:40:01pm

re: #7 maddogg

Hell, lets burn some Renaults.

Hell, let's do it anyway, just for fun!

72 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:40:13pm

re: #64 Kreuzueber Halbmond

re: #35 Killgore Trout

I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

No, it should be taken for what it is.

sac%uFFFDri%uFFFDlege - n. Desecration, profanation, misuse, or theft of something sacred.

Penalty for which is...nothing. As opposed to the necrophiliac frenzied lust for beheading which Islam ascribes. (exception would be the theft part in which there could be legal recourse.)

73 Alouette  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:40:15pm

re: #62 Geepers

But the Uniting Church minister who chairs the Blake Society said his mission was to spark debate about spirituality in a world that was “cynical, degraded and in crisis”.

They do not want to "spark debate," on the contrary, they want to crush everyone who tries to "debate" (i.e. who disagrees) with them.

74 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:40:40pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

If someone walked up to you, spat in your face, insulted your mother, and then added "I chose you for this treatment because I know you're a peaceful man who won't make a fuss", would you take that as a compliment?

75 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:40:47pm

re: #68 cosmo

I saw those guys in person back in the 1970's.

They even rode their bikes off a small jump.

76 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:41:38pm

re: #68 cosmo

re: #60 Ringo the Gringo

The fat twin on the back of the Guiness Book of World Records still has this whole family outweighed by 342 pounds.

The picture from the back is even funnier.

The Guinness Book - brings back fond memories from childhood, looking up all the weird records.

77 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:08pm

re: #60 Ringo the Gringo


Indians, man, INDIANS!

78 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:09pm

re: #16 Ben Hur

re: #9 lawhawk

Or how 4 men were riding 1 motorcycle.

I noticed they said the truck shouldnt have been there but nothing about a motorcycle carrying four men.

They were preparing for the flaming hoop ride.

79 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:18pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

....or, an opportunity.... :)

80 democast  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:41pm

Is Washington's renewed jingoism toward impeding Iran's ability to nuke Israel- motivated by yesterday's warning from (or G-d's prayer-response to) Israel's Parliamentarian, Dr. Aryeh Eldad, during his exclusive interview with DemoCast.TV?

Watch how he urges Washington not to squander Iran-deterence too long as to enable Iran to nuke Israel. Israel fears this Pentagon strategy to give the poll-sensitive, Republican-party political justification for a broader, retaliatory attack upon the Iranian regime during an election year.

Dr. Eldad cautioned that if America doesn't pre-empt Iran from producing nukes that will endanger the entire world, it might force Israel to take unilateral, pre-emptive military action.

"There's no chance in the world that Israel will be willing to live under nuclear Iranian threat!" he states. Just don't think you can blame Israel for the aftermath.

Watch 3-minute video interview for yourself by freely-subscribing to Democracy Broadcasting's News Magazine postings.

81 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:55pm

Ward Cleaver,

Where's Gordon, to offer some perspective?

Gordon's busy begging his mom to buy him a Riviera scarf.

He'll weigh in later.

82 kirche[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:42:57pm
83 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:43:52pm
Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity.

Only if they wanted to die.

84 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:43:58pm

Freedom of Speech.

As long as tax dollars weren't used to subsidize it, it's a bitch.

Though the Islamist will see the muted reaction it as a weakness of faith.

85 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:44:24pm

"Spark debate?". There is no debate, the people that out this sham on are idiots.

86 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:44:34pm

re: #84 Ben Hur

Freedom of Speech.

As long as tax dollars weren't used to subsidize it, it's a bitch.

Though the Islamist will see the muted reaction it as a weakness of faith.

Hit the nail on the head.

87 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:44:39pm

re: #81 Dirk Diggler

Ward Cleaver,

Where's Gordon, to offer some perspective?

Gordon's busy begging his mom to buy him a Riviera scarf.

He'll weigh in later.

He'd look real flamboyant in that.

88 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:44:40pm

They'll see the silence.

They'll see the calm.

They won't se rioting.

Or the art removed.

And they'll know they'll evenutally win.

89 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:45:14pm

re: #75 Ringo the Gringo

"They got like a three feet of air." -- Napoleon Dynamite

90 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:45:41pm

Speaking of riots, expect some here.

Three Palestinian children killed in Gaza

GAZA, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Three Palestinian children were killed on Wednesday after Israeli soldiers fired at figures they spotted near rocket launchers in the northern Gaza Strip.

Palestinian residents found the bodies of two boys, aged 10 and 12, in an area near where militants had fired rockets towards Israel. They said the boys died of shrapnel wounds.

A 10-year-old girl found near them was critically injured by shrapnel as well and died in hospital hours later, doctors said. Residents said the three were cousins. There were no witnesses to the explosion that killed the children.

"The IDF (Israel Defence Forces) targeted several launchers aimed at Israel in the Beit Hanoun industrial area," the Israeli army said in a statement. "Several Palestinians were identified handling the launchers at the time."

"The IDF wishes to express sorrow for the use the terror organisations make of the active participation of teenagers in terror attacks," the statement said.

An army spokeswoman declined to say what weapons the soldiers had used. More than 90 rockets fired by Palestinian militants in Gaza in the past month landed in Israel, she added.

There won't be a peep about the fact kids are next to rocket launchers, of course.

91 Sponge  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:45:43pm

re: #78 Eowyn2

re: #16 Ben Hur


re: #9 lawhawk

Or how 4 men were riding 1 motorcycle.


I noticed they said the truck shouldnt have been there but nothing about a motorcycle carrying four men.

They were preparing for the flaming hoop ride.


They were graduating terrorist school?

92 Boot Hill  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:45:58pm

from their site...

BLISS, BLASPHEMY AND BELIEF: ART AND
SPIRITUALITY IN A WORLD OF CONFLICT

This study day would explore the recent controversial relationship of religion, art and belief in a contemporary world looking for peace.

funny, seems like they spread their "blasphemy" paint a little thin. Must have run out of burnt umber before they got around to painting Mo.

Like throwing stones from a roof. Not really pushing the envelope or trying to study anything controversial if you ask me.

93 kayatribe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:46:07pm

Some people don't like a British artist's portrait of Bush.

I didn't even know there was an organization called Republicans Abroad International.

94 wee fury  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:46:21pm

Pondering what makes an Artist an Artist.
Dead Chimp's Art Sells Big

95 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:46:23pm

re: #76 Ward Cleaver

You're not kidding...and then you'd plan which weird record you and your friends were going to break...like "number of times bouncing a soccer ball of your knee" or "world's largest kazoo orchestra."

96 grayp  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:47:42pm
"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”."

Somebody needs to teach this guy haow to spell "Cistine Chapel'

slug

97 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:47:46pm

re: #60 Ringo the Gringo

Ben Hur,

Six Filipinos on one scooter.


We used to call that model the "Honda Moslem".

98 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:03pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool


GAZA, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Three Palestinian children were killed on Wednesday after Israeli soldiers fired at figures they spotted near rocket launchers in the northern Gaza Strip.

Read that.

Now read how YNET'S resident activist reports it. (And notice the Hur's comment)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Eyewitnesses in Gaza say girl, two boys killed and a number of other children injured from IDF artillery shell fired at group of people between Beit Lahiya and Jabalya refugee camp in the northern strip

Ali Wakeed is an activist stooge.

99 xane  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:06pm

McKellen rips out anti-gay Bible verse
Wednesday, August 29 2007, 19:43 BST

By Beth Hilton

Sir Ian McKellen has admitted that he rips an anti-gay passage out of Bibles he finds in hotel rooms.

The openly gay Lord of the Rings actor, 68, objects to a verse in the book of Leviticus which states that men who sleep together will be put to death.

He said: "It's the one thing I find difficult to defend but do go on doing."

Leviticus 20:13 reads: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

100 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:09pm

re: #77 Ben Hur

re: #60 Ringo the Gringo


Indians, man, INDIANS!

Actually, that picture was taken in Cambodia.

If you ever travel around east Asia you'll see all sorts of amazing ways to transport large numbers of people on very small vehicles.

101 Iron Fist  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:10pm

re: #52 socalinfidel,

Just put the Koran in a jar and piss on it. Instant art!

102 Texas Joel  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:11pm

“It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

Nah, people seem to forget the muslims have to get their retribution here and now, God will get the ones who take unjust liberties with Christian faith.

103 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:30pm

re: #67 Ward Cleaver

Where's Gordon, to offer some perspective?


Has he ever reappeared after I sent him scurrying behind mama's apron?

104 bulwrk  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:38pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool


The pallies are using children to retrieve the launchers after they've fired them

105 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:48:46pm

re: #76 Ward Cleaver

The Guinness Book - brings back fond memories from childhood, looking up all the weird records.

I used to order a new Guinness Book every year via my school's annual mail order book club. Once it arrived, I'd be a font of useless knowledge for weeks.

(Now I just order the Guinness, period, and am still a font of useless knowledge)

106 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:49:24pm

re: #74 Occasional Reader

No that would be assault. But if you drew an offensive picture of Chritopher Hitchens (the defacto spokesman for my (lack of) religious belief I wouldn't be bothered in the least.
Are you really suggesting that offensive pictures of your religion be considered the same as a physical assault? Sounds very Islamist to me.

107 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:49:27pm

Michealangelo, Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello,

NOT the turtles, the artists.

A riot, at least a protest, would surely ensue if Christ morphed into BinLaden. Of that I have no doubt.

As far as the Virgin Mary in a Burka; we have only the artist's say so that it is a depiction of the Virgin Mary, it could be the OTHER Madonna. The writer of children's books:)

108 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:50:35pm

OT: For all you Murtha haters out there.

How Murtha is stealing millions of dollars from the tax payers and the troops he supposedly supports.

Earmarks in Defense spending for projects that do not exist.

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

109 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:50:39pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

AND I'm sure Israel has the whole thing on video.

110 pingjockey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:50:49pm

I thought Gordon was sent to the phantom zone or never never land?

111 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:51:17pm

re: #104 bulwrk

re: #90 JammieWearingFool


The pallies are using children to retrieve the launchers after they've fired them


Got it. Figures.

112 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:51:18pm

re: #100 Ringo the Gringo

Yes, but the riots are in India, and a motorcycle!

113 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:51:40pm

Duchamp's urinal tops art survey

A white gentlemen's urinal has been named the most influential modern art work of all time.

Marcel Duchamp's Fountain came top of a poll of 500 art experts in the run-up to this year's [2004] Turner Prize which takes place on Monday.

/and it's practical too

114 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:51:45pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

BRILLIANT!

115 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:51:48pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Are you really suggesting that offensive pictures of your religion be considered the same as a physical assault?

You missed the point entirely.

It is no "compliment" to Christians that "artists" feel free to insult their beliefs over and over again, while cringing every time a Muslim looks at them cross-eyed.

Sounds very Islamist to me.

Oh, knock it off.

116 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:52:12pm

re: #34 MandyManners

How avant garde! I hope you sent the him or her to a Montessori school.

117 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:52:15pm

re: #107 Eowyn2

Michealangelo, Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello,

NOT the turtles, the artists.

A riot, at least a protest, would surely ensue if Christ morphed into BinLaden. Of that I have no doubt.

As far as the Virgin Mary in a Burka; we have only the artist's say so that it is a depiction of the Virgin Mary, it could be the OTHER Madonna. The writer of children's books:)

Oh...just you wait till the artist comes out who morphs Mohammad into Christ...Word War III, IV, V will start

118 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:52:24pm

re: #85 coquimbojoe

"Spark debate?". There is no debate, the people that out this sham on are idiots.

'Put this .....'

PIMF

119 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:52:30pm

Gordon's perspective is limited. You can't see much from inside your own rectum.

120 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:52:37pm

re: #107 Eowyn2

I wonder what kind of riots would ensue if an artist depicted mohammed morphing into a pedophile.

121 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:53:01pm

re: #96 grayp

Even better than that hasn't the Rev. Rod ever heard of "The Last Supper", possibly the most famous painting in the world?

Who does Rod think is gathered around? Ali Baba and the 12 thieves?

122 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:53:09pm

re: #115 Occasional Reader

Then your example was flawed. Don't blame me.

123 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:53:17pm

re: #117 Oh no...Sand People!

"World War"

PIMF.

124 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:54:07pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn't expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn't look at art a great deal”

... and Muslims don't read the funnies in newspapers either.

125 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:54:31pm

re: #107 Eowyn2

I like turtles.

126 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:03pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn't expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn't look at art a great deal”.

What a spectacularly condescending comment from a nominal Christian minister.

Oh, and Reverend Rod, who said this crap was "art", anyway?

127 Catttt  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:17pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

re: #64 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Unless you can establish some sort of Christian Caliphate you're going to have a hard time passing blasphemy laws.

Some western countries do have such laws. I know Greece does because of the charge and conviction in absentia of Austrian author Gerhard Haderer for depicting Christ as a hippy in his comic book The Life of Jesus.

128 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:19pm
129 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:24pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

Speaking of riots, expect some here.

Three Palestinian children killed in Gaza

GAZA, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Three Palestinian children were killed on Wednesday after Israeli soldiers fired at figures they spotted near rocket launchers in the northern Gaza Strip.
Palestinian residents found the bodies of two boys, aged 10 and 12, in an area near where militants had fired rockets towards Israel. They said the boys died of shrapnel wounds.

A 10-year-old girl found near them was critically injured by shrapnel as well and died in hospital hours later, doctors said. Residents said the three were cousins. There were no witnesses to the explosion that killed the children.

"The IDF (Israel Defence Forces) targeted several launchers aimed at Israel in the Beit Hanoun industrial area," the Israeli army said in a statement. "Several Palestinians were identified handling the launchers at the time."

"The IDF wishes to express sorrow for the use the terror organisations make of the active participation of teenagers in terror attacks," the statement said.

An army spokeswoman declined to say what weapons the soldiers had used. More than 90 rockets fired by Palestinian militants in Gaza in the past month landed in Israel, she added.


There won't be a peep about the fact kids are next to rocket launchers, of course.

And NO witnesses to the deaths. 10-12 yr olds hanging around rocket launchers and no adults.
Sorry, this story seems just a bit of the "poor poor us." I'm waiting for an evil Israeli to walk in and murder dear Saraa once she is old enough to become a martyr. Oh wait, she already is old enough.

130 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:25pm

re: #121 goodbye_natalie

re: #96 grayp

Even better than that hasn't the Rev. Rod ever heard of "The Last Supper", possibly the most famous painting in the world?

Who does Rod think is gathered around? Ali Baba and the 12 thieves?

Give it a lawsuit or 2 and it will be.

131 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:41pm
"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”."


Of course those knuckle dragging, mouth breathing Christians don't look at art a great deal. That's because they take the Bible literally and have plucked their eyeballs out the first time that it 'offendth' them.
I can't imagine this 'minister' of the 'Uniting Church' has a 167 I.Q. and plays multi-dimensional chess.
/total, dripping sarc

132 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:42pm

re: #104 bulwrk

Is that a guess, or a fact.....?


):

133 pingjockey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:48pm

It's not art it's crap!

134 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:55:49pm
A white gentlemen's urinal has been named the most influential modern art work of all time.

What? They have Jim Crow laws in British loos?

135 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:56:17pm

Important news, especially for ctp and other functioning males.

136 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:56:21pm

re: #12 CriticalBlue

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.


I like that below the belt shot.

"Reverend Rod". below the belt shot I get it. Rod promoting the new world order. Why not Pope Bin Ladin, or Saint Rage boy.

137 RTLM  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:56:46pm

re: #113 Killian Bundy

Duchamp's urinal tops art survey


A white gentlemen's urinal has been named the most influential modern art work of all time.

Marcel Duchamp's Fountain came top of a poll of 500 art experts in the run-up to this year's [2004] Turner Prize which takes place on Monday.


/and it's practical too


Shart made for shatting

138 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:57:44pm

Here's the 2007 Blake prize winners for religious art.

Here's the 2006 winner.

Nothing to seethe over.

139 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:57:48pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout


Then your example was flawed.

Uh, no, your reading was overly literalist. Don't blame me.

You suggested that offense inflicted in the understanding that it will not provoke a violent reaction is somehow a "compliment". I offered a counterexample. You immediately diverged into discussing an irrelevant detail of the counterexample. (If I had merely said "insulted your mother", would your reply have been "but these paintings aren't about anyone's mother'?)

140 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:57:48pm

And when will the white gentleman get his urinal back?

141 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:57:53pm

re: #113 Killian Bundy

Duchamp's urinal tops art survey


A white gentlemen's urinal has been named the most influential modern art work of all time.

Marcel Duchamp's Fountain came top of a poll of 500 art experts in the run-up to this year's [2004] Turner Prize which takes place on Monday.


/and it's practical too

"The choice of Duchamp's Fountain as the most influential work of modern art ahead of works by Picasso and Matisse comes as a bit of a shock," said art expert Simon Wilson"

Yes, it says a lot that a toilet is the most influential work of modern art.

142 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:58:03pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

re: #64 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Unless you can establish some sort of Christian Caliphate you're going to have a hard time passing blasphemy laws.

Yeah, well, a**wipes like these "artists" don't have a clue. They live in a free society and then turn around and defile the foundation of their society which was built on Christian values. No blasphemy laws required - a good slap across the head for being stupid will suffice.

143 Jheka  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:58:18pm
144 socalinfidel  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:58:40pm

re: #101 Iron Fist

re: #52 socalinfidel,

Just put the Koran in a jar and piss on it. Instant art!

That would be too easy....and I would be accused of copying piss christ.....Now maybe if I take a picture of a 9 year old girl holding a sign saying "mohammeds favorite wife" that would constitute art?

145 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:59:25pm

re: #127 Catttt

Interesting. Now that I think of it many states have Blue Laws forbidding certain businesses to do business on the sabbath.

146 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:02pm

re: #120 Sharmuta

re: #107 Eowyn2

I wonder what kind of riots would ensue if an artist depicted mohammed morphing into a pedophile.

Lets just say there is still a fatwa against Dante'

147 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:03pm

night all

148 jcm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:04pm

I am a Christian.... I am.... So..... Yawn!

Just another juvenile yearning for attention, so full of themselves, thinking they are making an avant garde statement. The most I feel is a tiny amount of pity that the only way the artist can get noticed is to insult someone.

149 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:15pm
re: #76 Ward Cleaver & OR

The Guinness Book - brings back fond memories from childhood, looking up all the weird records.

That and books about dinosaurs and the universe were always the ones I chose to read too! Oh, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - but I thought that one would make me sound too much like John Edwards; and Charlotte's Web but I thought that might make me sound too much like Barney Franks.

150 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:29pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Here's the 2007 Blake prize winners for religious art.

Here's the 2006 winner.

Nothing to seethe over.

That is some crappy art right there. Wow, people are suckers for this stuff! We should do a Lizard art contest and post it al FallbackLGF or something.

151 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:00:42pm

re: #108 hous bin pharteen

I guess he's trying to remove the un- from the unindicted coconspirator label?

152 alteredbeat  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:01:06pm

Where are the calls for respectful exercise of free speech that emerged during the Danish cartoon 'crisis'?

153 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:01:10pm

re: #140 Ben Hur

And when will the white gentleman get his urinal back?

When Larry Craig is done with it, dammit!

154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:01:13pm

This line pisses me off most:

Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

WTF? Like it would be OK if that were the case? And frankly, I think the Rev is full of shit. Maybe the fact the Christian community doesnt look at art much is because there is this kind of shit all over the place?

155 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:01:43pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout
$15K for that? Man, what am I doing at my day job?

156 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:01:54pm

re: #139 Occasional Reader

Despite your flawed example it's still not a direct insult. Have you been personally insulted my a painting that you've never seen hanging in a museum on the other side of the planet? You would have to go out of your way to be personally affected. If you don't want to see the painting don't go see it.

157 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:02:16pm

re: #64 Kreuzueber Halbmond

re: #35 Killgore Trout


I suggest Christians start taking this stuff as a compliment.

No, it should be taken for what it is.

sac·ri·lege - n. Desecration, profanation, misuse, or theft of something sacred.

/agreed

It's a bit silly to say that Christians should take this stuff as a compliment...actually I think it's a little on the insulting side.

Christians DO have a right to be offended and if someone did this, I would definitely call it sacrilegous. But the difference is, I don't call for someone's head like the islamists do..I just think they are dumb and will have to answer to God later for their behaviour.

But don't tell me it's a compliment. LOL.

158 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:02:23pm

I saw the Bloody Mary episode of South Park this week.

I told you already but you may have forgotten, I mean, with all the Jihad this and the Jihad that business.

It was an episode about a statue of Mary that bleeds out her ass.

Does anybody actually ASK those responsible, why the double standard (Comedy Central censored South Park's Mo depiction)?

159 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:02:40pm

re: #150 coquimbojoe

Babbazee would easily win.

160 insanity police  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:03:11pm

If this was the case:

...an image of Osama bin Laden Muhammad which morphs into Jesus

The result would be Riots, Death, and Destruction.

Oh, right. That happened already.

ROP.

161 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:03:59pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

re: #150 coquimbojoe

Babbazee would easily win.

Probably, but it would be a good insight into how our minds function. It would probably be Hi-larious.

162 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:04:09pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Here's the 2007 Blake prize winners for religious art.

Here's the 2006 winner.

Nothing to seethe over.

Thats pretty cool. I always feel closer to God when I am in the mountains or surrounded by trees

163 beblebrox  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:07pm
"Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

That is one of the most offensive things I have ever read. I was raised Catholic (I know, not really Christian) and I have traveled to every branch of the Smithsonian, the British Museum, the Tate Gallery, the Louvre, the Royal Ontario Museum, and the Vatican Museum, among a few others.

My wife is a Soviet-Raised daughter of a Russian Orthodox Priest (I know, not really Christian again) and grew up going at least once a month to go through the Kremlin Museum, the Hermitage, not to mention the Bolshoi.

Guess we're just dumb hicks.

164 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:10pm

re: #162 Eowyn2

re: #138 Killgore Trout


Here's the 2007 Blake prize winners for religious art.

Here's the 2006 winner.

Nothing to seethe over.


Thats pretty cool. I always feel closer to God when I am in the mountains or surrounded by trees

That's 'cause you're an elf.

165 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:16pm

re: #55 RTLM

shart...when you try to pass gass but give a little extra...shart

166 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:33pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

it's still not a direct insult

Um... yeah, that was the analogy part of the business, see. I was analogizing to a personal insult directed to someone in the confidence that that person will not react.


Have you been personally insulted

No, I'm an atheist; this is not an insult to my religion, either.

But your suggestion that this is a compliment to Christians is astonishing.

167 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:39pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


See #124 for the perfect response.

168 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:52pm

re: #99 xane

There are plenty more passages like that in the New Testament.....but if Gandalf were familiar with both portions of that book, he'd discover every one of those warnings have been redeemed..... :) .....all he'd need to "do", to cover himself, is written out there, too.

169 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:05:59pm

re: #164 coquimbojoe

She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.

170 Iron Fist  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:06:15pm

re: #144 socalinfidel,

You have to be careful with that one. Child pornography is still illegal. Of course, if done right you could even make that point. Mohammed was a truly slimy fuck, wasn't he?

171 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:06:23pm

re: #151 lawhawk

....and the left tards complain about who profiting off the war?

172 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:06:42pm

re: #162 Eowyn2

Thats pretty cool. I always feel closer to God when I am in the mountains or surrounded by trees

Or a rider of Rohan who likes open spaces or something....

173 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:06:53pm

Well, I'm Protestant. But I will tell you I have met a lot of Catholics that were better Christians than all but a handful of Protestants I've known.

So I'll just stick with were all Christian and leave it at that.

174 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:06:53pm

re: #158 Ben Hur

They can't even re-run the Muhammad episode with Mo' blurred out. Yet the Bloody Mary one still runs.

175 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:07:05pm

re: #157 Highrise

Secularist fishermen.

/forgive me father for I have sinned

176 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:07:12pm

re: #172 coquimbojoe

:)

177 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:07:20pm

I'm sure that if Christians worldwide were as 'restive' and 'peaceful' in their expression of offense as were muslims, these 'brave artists' would quickly move on to mocking Buddha or the Dali Lama. There is nothing truly thought provoking about this kind of cowardice, they are simply regurgitating the same old crap that is safe for them and receiving same old accolades from their fellow 'intellectuals'. This is an old act and it is getting quite boring, try having an original thought.

178 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:07:26pm

re: #166 Occasional Reader

Maybe he means it's a compliment that Christians aren't rasacking Australia, buring koalas and beheading people.

179 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:08:33pm

re: #169 Sharmuta

re: #164 coquimbojoe

She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.

Can we agree that Eowyn - who Rangered up, got out there and kicked Nazgul ass - was MUCH cooler than Arwen, who just lay around pining?

180 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:08:33pm

re: #169 Sharmuta

re: #164 coquimbojoe

She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.

I figured it out later. I realized that Eomyn was Eomir's (sp) siter and not the tarty elf of the movie. (Really, I am a huge fan of both books and movies) I haven't reread the series in a couple of years though..... My bad!

181 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:09:16pm

It'll all work out in the end.

Heh.

182 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:09:22pm

re: #28 maddogg

re: #19 RTLM


re: #9 lawhawk


Sorry for the OT, but there were real riots requiring a curfew near the Taj Mahal after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle.

How do you get four guys on a motorcycle? Might limit visibility and control...(?)
They likely careened into the truck themselves.

Man, didn't you read National Geographic when you were a kid? Muslims can get whole families of 8 or more on a Honda 50.

If you go to Taiwan, you will see that the talent of overloading a scooter, moped, or motorcycle has nothing to do with Islam. And there are swarms of them, not just one.

OldLineTexan

183 Catttt  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:09:56pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

re: #127 Catttt

Interesting. Now that I think of it many states have Blue Laws forbidding certain businesses to do business on the sabbath.

Yeah.

And I'm not sure how EU member countries like Greece, which have laws that are obviously of a religious nature, are being handled by the EU. The religious laws in Greece are very much oriented to the majority Greek Orthodox church and Christianity. For example, Allah or Mohammed abuse via a cartoon book would not legally be blasphemy in Greece.

184 coquimbojoe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:10:01pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

re: #169 Sharmuta


re: #164 coquimbojoe

She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.


Can we agree that Eowyn - who Rangered up, got out there and kicked Nazgul ass - was MUCH cooler than Arwen, who just lay around pining?

Yes, we can agree to that.

185 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:10:39pm

I'll give the LGF board one thing. No one can't say we aren't diversified...

Only board I've ever read where the atheists fight with atheists, Catholics fight with Catholics, Protestants fight with everybody, and we still have a good time.

186 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:11:02pm

re: #166 Occasional Reader

The very reason we continue to have free speech is that many still believe that it's not a constitutional right to not be offended. Free speech means you are going to see offensive pictures, hear offensive music, etc.
Unfortunately, too many Christians are losing sight of this (see Bill Donahue) and trying to silence insults to their religion.

187 Boot Hill  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:11:23pm

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

188 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:11:37pm

re: #117 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #107 Eowyn2


Michealangelo, Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello,

NOT the turtles, the artists.

A riot, at least a protest, would surely ensue if Christ morphed into BinLaden. Of that I have no doubt.

As far as the Virgin Mary in a Burka; we have only the artist's say so that it is a depiction of the Virgin Mary, it could be the OTHER Madonna. The writer of children's books:)


Oh...just you wait till the artist comes out who morphs Mohammad into Christ...Word War III, IV, V will start

THAT WOULD DISTURB ME ALOT.

189 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:11:47pm

re: #178 Ben Hur

Boycott Vegimite!
/That's an easy one

190 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:00pm

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

Piss off, you Christianist bastid!
:P

191 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:11pm

re: #187 Boot Hill

Nice find, thanks.

192 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:28pm

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

Just no pacifists. Unless Gordon shows up.

193 sheik yer'mami  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:29pm

It must be Australia's evolving Kos kidz, you know those progressives on the dole and other government handouts...


Only they have the courage to (NOT) offend muslims....

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

194 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:35pm

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

I wanted to include something about radical Islam fighting somebody but I have to draw the line at beheadings and stonings.

195 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:12:59pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

You'll have to point me to the part where I said that speech that is offensive to Christians should be banned.

196 Iron Fist  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:13:39pm

re: #178 Ben Hur,

But...but...burning koalas and beheading people is, like, all the rage. Why can't Christians get to do it, too? Just once?

Awwww. Mohammedans have all the fun rage.

wah.

197 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:13:42pm

re: #184 coquimbojoe

re: #179 Occasional Reader


re: #169 Sharmuta

re: #164 coquimbojoe
She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.

Can we agree that Eowyn - who Rangered up, got out there and kicked Nazgul ass - was MUCH cooler than Arwen, who just lay around pining?

Yes, we can agree to that.

Arwen's part and character were short-shrifted in the movie, even after Jackson's writers gave her a nicely detailed Nazgul-kicking rescue scene at the fords of Bruinen. But at least they gave her that. In the book, it was an Elf-lord in a cameo (i.e., you never see him again) role.

OldLineTexan

198 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:13:55pm

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

There nothing like an atheist vs. atheist blasphemy fight.

199 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:14:14pm

re: #187 Boot Hill


OBL is their new Jesus.

200 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:14:48pm

re: #197 OldLineTexan

gave her a nicely detailed Nazgul-kicking rescue scene at the fords of Bruinen

Bah... she used magic, that's cheating! Eowyn OTOH was out there wielding nothing more than some chunks of iron!

201 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:14:49pm
The man the Media Murdered:Richard Jewell dead.

Thank you Drudge for telling the truth...The man was an America hero who saved lives...and had his ruined by the media. [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

202 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:14:58pm

re: #195 Occasional Reader

I never said you said that. I cited Bill Donahue as the example.

203 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:17pm

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

I'll give the LGF board one thing. No one can't say we aren't diversified...

Only board I've ever read where the atheists fight with atheists, Catholics fight with Catholics, Protestants fight with everybody, and we still have a good time.

I'll say. I'm the worlds worst Catholic yet I find myself defending the good Catholics a lot of the time. Someone here (I won't mention Killgore Trout by name) paints with a large brush. Yes, we have a problem with a tiny minority of priests in the United States. But to defame 1.1 billion Catholics in nearly every country on this planet because of a problem predominately confined to this country? Not even close to fair.

204 macintush  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:20pm

Apparently, Buddhists create art; Jews then buy the art; Christians appreciate the art; then Muslims blow it up!

205 AuntAcid  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:36pm

Art? We don't need no steenking art.

206 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:41pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

The very reason we continue to have free speech is that many still believe that it's not a constitutional right to not be offended

I believe the reason we still have free speech, is because we still have soldiers who are willing to sacrifice their lives for that freedom, which is also ours.

Without soldiers protecting us, the Constitution is just another piece of paper.

ALL of our freedoms hinge on people willing to lay down their lives for others, the Constitution only says it's supposed to be, our soldiers insure that right.

At least as long as the left is kept out of total power.

Then, things will change.

207 maddogg  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:46pm

re: #182 OldLineTexan

re: #28 maddogg


re: #19 RTLM

re: #9 lawhawk


Sorry for the OT, but there were real riots requiring a curfew near the Taj Mahal after a truck ran over and killed four young men riding a motorcycle.

How do you get four guys on a motorcycle? Might limit visibility and control...(?)
They likely careened into the truck themselves.

Man, didn't you read National Geographic when you were a kid? Muslims can get whole families of 8 or more on a Honda 50.

If you go to Taiwan, you will see that the talent of overloading a scooter, moped, or motorcycle has nothing to do with Islam. And there are swarms of them, not just one.

OldLineTexan

Yes, I know. But I just hate to miss an opportunity to rag on the Muslims.

208 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:53pm

I'm not insulted by anything done by the damned. I feel deeply, painfully sad that they are lost forever.

209 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:15:57pm

re: #187 Boot Hill

Good find- I was hoping we'd get to see it.

Also- it's not a burqa. It's not full length. It's a hijab.

210 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:16:08pm

re: #198 Killgore Trout

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

There nothing like an atheist vs. atheist blasphemy fight.

Well, I have to admit I thought I'd seen it all but now I have to retract that.

211 Milk Toast Intolerant  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:16:17pm

These artists are so courageous. They'll offend anything except Islam. Jesus is fair game but someone a pedophile prophet is off limits.

212 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:17:01pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

re: #169 Sharmuta

re: #164 coquimbojoe

She's a Shield Maiden of Rohan.

Can we agree that Eowyn - who Rangered up, got out there and kicked Nazgul ass - was MUCH cooler than Arwen, who just lay around pining?

100%.

213 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:17:23pm

re: #190 Occasional Reader

re: #185 goodbye_natalie

Piss off, you Christianist bastid!
:P


Hey, don't insult "bastids" like that!

:)

Disclaimer: I am not calling goodbye_natalie a bastid, I'm just trying to have a little fun.

214 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:17:35pm

OK, now that I've seen them:

It's actually anti-Muslim art.

The Mary statue metaphorically shows what's happening to Western Society.

And the Jesus morph (not to be confused with Warf) depicts today's reality.

OBL is the Left's Jesus.

215 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:17:53pm

re: #108 hous bin pharteen

OT: For all you Murtha haters out there.

How Murtha is stealing millions of dollars from the tax payers and the troops he supposedly supports.

Earmarks in Defense spending for projects that do not exist.

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

he's gonna need the resources when the haditha marines slam him with multiple libel suits

216 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:08pm

re: #208 Pro-Bush Canuck

YES!

217 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:31pm

re: #164 coquimbojoe

re: #162 Eowyn2


re: #138 Killgore Trout

Here's the 2007 Blake prize winners for religious art.
Here's the 2006 winner.

Nothing to seethe over.


Thats pretty cool. I always feel closer to God when I am in the mountains or surrounded by trees

That's 'cause you're an elf.

no, but some of my best friends are. except that wench arwyn who stole the man I though I might be able to someday fall in love with.

218 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:31pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

re: #166 Occasional Reader

The very reason we continue to have free speech is that many still believe that it's not a constitutional right to not be offended. Free speech means you are going to see offensive pictures, hear offensive music, etc.
Unfortunately, too many Christians are losing sight of this (see Bill Donahue) and trying to silence insults to their religion.

Is Mr. Donohue trying to silence others, or just finally getting a say? I say if you take a piece out of someone long enough, you will finally get the reaction you (apparently) wanted.

If Donohue is attacking a critic in any way that involves legal threats or other attempts at limiting someone else's speech, I'd like to know. I missed it.

OTOH, if he's getting his licks in, just like the critics, well, they should put on their big girl panties before they start playing big girls' games.

OldLineTexan

219 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:44pm

re: #214 Ben Hur

(not to be confused with Warf)

PLEASE don't blaspheme the Klingon's religion. You wouldn't like them when they're angry.

220 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:57pm

And the Mary piece was lifted from this:

[Link: grammarpolice.net...]

So it's not very original.

221 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:18:59pm

Jesus is not an image and he is in heaven...nothing they do insults me.

222 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:19:08pm

re: #200 Occasional Reader

re: #197 OldLineTexan


gave her a nicely detailed Nazgul-kicking rescue scene at the fords of Bruinen

Bah... she used magic, that's cheating! Eowyn OTOH was out there wielding nothing more than some chunks of iron!

Elves have powers. You have to deal with that. ;)

OldLineTexan

223 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:19:18pm

re: #203 EC Marm

Sorry but The Catholic church has an ongoing problems with criminal sexuality in the priesthood. Search google news, I'd guess there's an average of 2-3 new cases every month.

224 Milk Toast Intolerant  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:19:39pm

re: #211 Milk Toast Intolerant

These artists are so courageous. They'll offend anything except Islam. Jesus is fair game but someone a pedophile prophet is off limits.

someone = somehow

PIMF

225 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:20:08pm

re: #203 EC Marm

You're right. I always think of Protestants being the butt of everything until I consider the slam Catholics get from the MSM, then I realize we Protestants don't have much to bitch about.

And strangely, as a Protestant I find myself defending the Catholics more than the Protestants. Guess my Catholic wife is rubbing off on me more than I realized.

And none of us have anything on the Jews and the garbage they tolerate.

226 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:20:11pm

re: #217 Eowyn2

You got a pretty nice, honorable man in the end. Tell your brother I said, "Hi".

227 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:20:33pm

So, I conclude that the artworks were chosen, not for their artistic insight or imagery, they were soley chosen to draw attention to the Blake Society.

Total publicity stunt.

228 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:21:19pm

re: #99 xane

That dirty old wizard hanging around with "little Hobbitses" always creeped me out.

229 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:21:24pm

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

Those are pretty amaturish. I was expecting something more profound than a statue from a yard sale with a piece of cloth and a picture that looks like it had an eraser taken to it.

230 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:22:00pm

Say a prayer for Richard Jewell family....Drudge has the story.

231 meMarc  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:22:08pm

After some of the shoddy reporting when Ted Koppel was there, it's probably good news that Nightline has descended to this. Here's tonight's line up:

Princess Diana: 'The Ultimate Star'
In life, Princess Diana brushed the dust off of the old Britain. She shook up the royal family with her sexy fashion and media savvy. But what is Diana's legacy 10 years after her death? "Nightline" co-anchor Cynthia McFadden sits down with Tina Brown, author of the bestselling new book "The Diana Chronicles."

Sen. Craig in Trouble
Sen. Larry E. Craig, R-Idaho, is defending his name and congressional career after admitting he had pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct charges in June. An undercover policeman arrested Craig in a Minneapolis airport bathroom, claiming Craig had solicited him for sex. "Nightline's" John Donvan reports.

Million Dollar Payday for Pooch
One lucky New York dog is $12 million richer today. The will of hotelier and real estate investor Leona Helmsley earmarks one of the largest chunks of her billion-dollar fortune to her pet Maltese. "Nightline's" Vicky Mabrey has the wealthy and their canine sidekicks in this "Sign of the Times."

Shouldn't Craig come after the Pooch?

232 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:22:17pm

I believe God will do the final defending in the end.

Takes the pressure off of me.

233 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:22:27pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Alleged Cases. How many Atheist pedophiles are there pretending to be priests.

234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:23:05pm

re: #113 Killian Bundy

Duchamp's urinal tops art survey

A white gentlemen's urinal has been named the most influential modern art work of all time.

Marcel Duchamp's Fountain came top of a poll of 500 art experts in the run-up to this year's [2004] Turner Prize which takes place on Monday.

/and it's practical too

How do they know the urinal belonged to a white guy?

235 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:23:27pm

re: #221 storagemanager

Jesus is not an image and he is in heaven...nothing they do insults me.

I think when you get to that point, you have it figured out. Somewhere in the Bible, and my memory fails me (I think Ecclesiastes and I'm too lazy to look it up), Solomon states there is no evil new under the sun.

So for every blasphemy, it's all been done before. The insults are neither creative nor original.

236 g3n3r1c  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:23:48pm

Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn't expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn't look at art a great deal”.
That makes just peachy to deface the Lord and one of the symbols of the Christian church

237 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:24:24pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

re: #203 EC Marm

Sorry but The Catholic church has an ongoing problems with criminal sexuality in the priesthood. Search google news, I'd guess there's an average of 2-3 new cases every month.

That may be true, and yet, our society will send a convicted rapist of two four year old boys, to rehab, with no prison time, because he's "too short" to "survive prison", and yet, they salivate at being able to send a Priest to prison.

C'mon Killgore, this society lets most pedophiles walk with very little consequence, but when a Priest, who is also human, and suffers from the same human sickness that any other pedophile suffers from, they insure the book is thrown at them.

If one deserves prison, they all do.

238 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:24:26pm

re: #218 OldLineTexan

He's using the same tactics perfected by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They attack sponsorships, advertising, boycotts, etc to force businesses to cave in to their demands. That's why no papers will run the Opus cartoon, that's why Dom Imus was fired for using the same language as rappers. Special interest groups are killing free speech.

239 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:24:52pm

re: #222 OldLineTexan

re: #200 Occasional Reader


re: #197 OldLineTexan

gave her a nicely detailed Nazgul-kicking rescue scene at the fords of Bruinen

Bah... she used magic, that's cheating! Eowyn OTOH was out there wielding nothing more than some chunks of iron!

Elves have powers. You have to deal with that. ;)

OldLineTexan

In the book, nobody kicked minor nazgul butt at the fords of Bruinen, they all just stood back while Frodo rode forward on the elf horse (which belonged to a guy elf.) Eowyn killed the head honcho nazgul. The Witch King of Angmar.

240 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:24:55pm

Change the headline Fox...it is misleading....it should say 96 hero dies......

'96 Olympics Bombing Figure DiesRichard Jewell, security guard suspected and then cleared of planting bomb at 1996 Atlanta Olympics, dead at 44

.I hate the MSM more everyday. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

241 Milk Toast Intolerant  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:25:07pm

And the media outlets will show these pictures because it's free speech (which I agree with) but they'll shy away from anything that has that pedophile prophet Muhammad in it. Too insensitive, they say.

242 grayp  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:25:10pm

#197 OldLineTexan

In the book, it was an Elf-lord in a cameo (i.e., you never see him again) role.

Glorifindel, IIRC. He shows up in the Sylmarillion, tho.

243 msdixie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:01pm

The state of 'Art' in the western world today is pitiful. Students of art aren't taught to drawing, perspective, any of the classical traditional craft we expect in a work of 'Art.' It's about subjective personal feelings, shock value, and sheer laziness. Having just come from a job in the 'Art' world, I can tell you true artists are few and far between. Yes, I'm jaded and worn out from dealing with huge egos that have a tiny talent.

244 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:03pm

re: #232 Highrise

I believe God will do the final defending in the end.

Takes the pressure off of me.


That is True, but I, as a Christian, still have a very specific Biblical responsability to do, until then.

245 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:20pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout
And as I've told you before, in that new case of the 16 year old boy in the U.S., there is an ongoing program to educate those children. But when a 16 year old young man is approached by a priest, he (the 16 yr old) knows damn well what he is supposed to do. Dropping to his knees and collecting 50 bucks and some cheap wine for his service, I can assure you, is not one of the options presented in his education. The priest belongs in jail, but what do YOU think of the 16 year old?

246 Boot Hill  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:33pm

I also find this interesting since doesn't islam ban painting people.

If that is so, I wonder if this fella is a muslim...

Study Day 2007

Posted: Aug 28, 11:00 pm

Bliss, Blasphemy And Belief: Art And Spirituality In A World Of Conflict

This study day would explore the recent controversial relationship of religion, art and belief in contemporary world looking for peace. Speakers include:

* Assoc. Prof. Jake Lynch, Director, Centre for Peach and Conflict Studies, University of Sydney
* Assoc. Prof. Ahmad Shboul AM, Chair, Arabic & Islamic Studies, University of Sydney
* Prof. Ian Howard, Artist & Dean, College of Fine Arts, UNSW
* Avril Alba, Education Director, Sydney Jewish Museum
* Ella Dreyfus, Artist & Lecturer, National Art School
* Assoc. Prof. Michael Griffith, Author & Lecturer, Australian Catholic University
* Dr Sue-Anne Wallace, Art historian & CEO, Fundraising Institute
* Katie Dyer, Curator & Manager, National Art School Gallery
* Rev. Rod Pattenden, Art Historian, Curator & Chairperson, Blake Society Ltd

Date: Saturday 15 September, 2007
Time: 10am – 4pm
Venue: National Art School, Forbes Street, Darlinghurst
Cost: $30 / $20 concession / $15 studen

I imagine he is...since he is a Sydney
Member of the Council for Australian-Arab Relations

247 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:55pm

re: #231 meMarc

Mathews call Craig a sexual deviant, which a total rip on gays.

The left is very strange.

This morning I heard the moron Kuby arguing that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a school having a principal go through a "sex change" ( which is basically a man with no penis). His tone conveyed that people who did have a problem with it were from Mars.

Then, in the very next segment 5 seconds later, he begins to mock Craig in a clearly stereotypical gay voice, as if it was a horrible thing.

The left is very strange because they claim to be for gay rights, yet, if it's a republican that is gay, they gay bait, etc.

So, are they really pro gay rights, or once again, just for anything Republicans are against?

248 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:26:59pm

re: #242 grayp
Just got here..........
Is this a Lord of The Rings Thread?

249 chee toe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:27:09pm

re: #204 macintush

Apparently, Buddhists create art; Jews then buy the art; Christians appreciate the art; then Muslims blow it up!

Actually, outside of the favored gay community, who are supposedly the "only group with anything authentic left to say" the Buddhists are next in line for Seal Of Approval from the Leftards. Alexander Boot's book about the development of this insanity can't be beat.

Your fellow urinal dweller in Art

250 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:27:20pm

Romans 1:32 , The Message Version

They know perfectly well they're spitting in God's face. And they don't care — worse, they hand out prizes to those who do the worst things best

Says it all .

251 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:28:08pm

re: #240 storagemanager

Change the headline Fox...it is misleading....it should say 96 hero dies......

'96 Olympics Bombing Figure DiesRichard Jewell, security guard suspected and then cleared of planting bomb at 1996 Atlanta Olympics, dead at 44

.I hate the MSM more everyday. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

storage, this is why I don't watch the msm anymore, including Faux News.

I don't care what story may be being broadcast, I refuse to watch any of it on the msm.

Guns and Ammo tv works much better for me.

252 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:28:10pm

re: #233 rab3

Actually when I was searching the other day I found this.....
Violent sex offender posed as priest

A notorious sex offender has been masquerading as a priest in a rural Irish town and abusing the hospitality of the locals, it emerged yesterday.

John Cronin, who once received a life sentence for attacking and sexually abusing a female Conservative Party worker, has been donning a cassock and passing himself off as a clergyman in Tuam, Co Galway.

It happens.

253 cosmo  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:28:30pm

re: #133 pingjockey

Uh...if it's not Scottish art, it's crap!

heh...heh...oi!

254 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:28:33pm

re: #226 Sharmuta

re: #217 Eowyn2

You got a pretty nice, honorable man in the end. Tell your brother I said, "Hi".

I think I was about 12 when I first started reading the books. Those men definately didnt eat quiche.

255 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:28:42pm

re: #250 Pass The Moonbaticide

Zactly!

256 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:29:41pm

re: #245 EC Marm

I have no thoughts about the 16 year old one way or the other.

257 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:30:07pm
Eventually, the bomber turned out to be anti-government CHRISTIAN extremist Eric Rudolph,

/Christiane A.

258 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:30:17pm

re: #244 republic

re: #232 Highrise


I believe God will do the final defending in the end.

Takes the pressure off of me.


That is True, but I, as a Christian, still have a very specific Biblical responsability to do, until then.

Republic,

I'm talking about people feeling the need and agonizing over defending the church or a preacher.

I don't think I'm called to do so. I don't mind telling people about God and Jesus or correcting if someone has taken something wrong from the bible.

That is my point. People get so caught up in defending a church and preacher that I think they take too much on their shoulders. I'm thankful to God for not putting that on my shoulders..is all. I'd be a wreck.

259 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:30:28pm

re: #240 storagemanager

Change the headline Fox...it is misleading....it should say 96 hero dies......

'96 Olympics Bombing Figure DiesRichard Jewell, security guard suspected and then cleared of planting bomb at 1996 Atlanta Olympics, dead at 44

.I hate the MSM more everyday. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]


I agree with you.
"Man who foiled bombing at 96 Olympics dies at 44" woud be much better but then, it just wouldnt be negative enough.

260 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:31:07pm

re: #247 Ben Hur

re: #231 meMarc

Mathews call Craig a sexual deviant, which a total rip on gays.

The left is very strange.

This morning I heard the moron Kuby arguing that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a school having a principal go through a "sex change" ( which is basically a man with no penis). His tone conveyed that people who did have a problem with it were from Mars.

Then, in the very next segment 5 seconds later, he begins to mock Craig in a clearly stereotypical gay voice, as if it was a horrible thing.

The left is very strange because they claim to be for gay rights, yet, if it's a republican that is gay, they gay bait, etc.

So, are they really pro gay rights, or once again, just for anything Republicans are against?

The lefts hypocritical spin is showing many people who weren't paying any attention, just how incompitant they really are.

What do you think the homosexual rights people and groups think, when they see their "defenders", slamming them in one fail swoop, with their outright hypocricy?

The left is insane.

261 Boot Hill  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:31:38pm

re: #209 Sharmuta

Thanks for the clarification...
Just taking what they listed in the description of the pics...

'Offensive' ... the Virgin mary wearing a burqa and (inset bottom) a holograph of Osama bin Laden that morphs into Jesus (top)

262 grayp  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:32:22pm

re: #248 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #242 grayp
Just got here..........
Is this a Lord of The Rings Thread?


heh. Not quite.

But allow me to weave the two subjects together. About a year ago - maybe 2 - First Things, one of the best religious pubs around, had a short story on the lesson of Arwen. Basically boiled it down to the moral virtue of mortality.

Very cool.

263 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:32:52pm

re: #239 Eowyn2

Eowyn killed the head honcho nazgul. The Witch King of Angmar.

IIRC she laughs and says "'Witch King'?! How gay is that?!", just before dispatching him.

264 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:33:22pm

re: #248 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #242 grayp
Just got here..........
Is this a Lord of The Rings Thread?

Jack Black!

265 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:33:47pm

re: #261 Boot Hill

Oh- that wasn't directed at you at all! I was pointing out the msm's mistake, because that never gets old.

266 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:33:54pm

Elves have powers. You have to deal with that. ;)

and Arwen came from awsome stock...straight back to Valinor...

(I'm waaayy behind here lol!)

267 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:34:00pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

re: #218 OldLineTexan

He's using the same tactics perfected by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They attack sponsorships, advertising, boycotts, etc to force businesses to cave in to their demands. That's why no papers will run the Opus cartoon, that's why Dom Imus was fired for using the same language as rappers. Special interest groups are killing free speech.

If he is running an extortion racket like Jackson and The Rainbow Coalition, then I hope he is unsuccessful.

Sharpton is a low-life race-baiter, and he profits from that, too. Shame on those that continuously provide him a public forum.

But to me, it sounds like our Catholic friend is well within his rights. If he's sincere, I am forced to accept that. If he's doing it for profit, then I do not approve.

Line-by-line:
The Opus cartoon ran in several papers, and I have seen it all over the 'Net.

Don Imus made trouble for his employer. That will get you fired where I work. It was also an amazingly stupid thing to say, unless Imus' show is one of those childish "zoo" formats. Having said all that, the race-baiters were out in droves. But Imus should have had brains enough not to hand them the gun to point at his head.

You have to buy rap music to hear it, usually. I don't, so I'm safe. To be fair, SOME of the race-baiters also attacked the rappers. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.

I'm not so sure special interest groups are killing free speech. Speech always carries consequences. Some consequences (violence, for example) are NOT acceptable. Economic consequences are another issue.

Special interest groups are killing government of, by, and for the people. But that's another topic.

OldLineTexan

268 SDben5  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:34:01pm

The artist is a coward.

269 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:34:07pm
270 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:34:17pm

This proves Islam does not worship the same God...Mary and Jesus are supposed to be important to Islam....not a word!....but they riot over a cartoon of Mohammad.

271 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:35:03pm

re: #262 grayp
Oh ! Just saw Frodo and naturally was to lazy/or busy to
back track!
Also , my desk is being rained on by sweating
chiller pipes!So I'm alittle distracted.....
Fix that in the morning... Note to self!

272 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:35:10pm

re: #239 Eowyn2

re: #222 OldLineTexan


re: #200 Occasional Reader

re: #197 OldLineTexan

gave her a nicely detailed Nazgul-kicking rescue scene at the fords of Bruinen

Bah... she used magic, that's cheating! Eowyn OTOH was out there wielding nothing more than some chunks of iron!

Elves have powers. You have to deal with that. ;)
OldLineTexan

In the book, nobody kicked minor nazgul butt at the fords of Bruinen, they all just stood back while Frodo rode forward on the elf horse (which belonged to a guy elf.) Eowyn killed the head honcho nazgul. The Witch King of Angmar.

I was going with the movie here; I've read the book several times through, and I'm aware of the plot niceties. ;)

OldLineTexan

273 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:35:29pm

re: #258 Highrise

re: #244 republic


re: #232 Highrise

I believe God will do the final defending in the end.
Takes the pressure off of me.

That is True, but I, as a Christian, still have a very specific Biblical responsability to do, until then.

Republic,

I'm talking about people feeling the need and agonizing over defending the church or a preacher.

I don't think I'm called to do so. I don't mind telling people about God and Jesus or correcting if someone has taken something wrong from the bible.

That is my point. People get so caught up in defending a church and preacher that I think they take too much on their shoulders. I'm thankful to God for not putting that on my shoulders..is all. I'd be a wreck.


I agree, and I didn't realize exactly wht you were refering to when I commented, and I am sorry for that.

You're right, it is not my job to defend any particular Faith or Pastor/Preacher/Priest, etc.

One thing that is distrubing, to me, is that anything seems to be a go, with bashing Christians/Christianity, and yet, follwers of the cult of deceit and death do, say, anything they want, and the world turns a blind eye.

But, I know beyond the shadow of any doubt, that it will all work out eventually, and I do take great comfort in that.

274 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:35:50pm

re: #269 buzzsawmonkey

slag each other?

Like the 3 Fat Slags?

275 samhein  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:36:07pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

And these idiots didn't hear something in the box? Cats are not know to be very quiet when boxed.

Plus, if they picked the box up, they couldn't tell then...?

And while the cops are investigating who put the cats in a box, I suggest they also investigate as to how the, so called, "professionals" couldn't tell that there was an animal in the box...multiple animals in fact, and not a bomb.

This is getting to be a bit much.

276 jcm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:36:24pm

re: #262 grayp

Religious pub? Were do I find one?

277 Boot Hill  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:36:33pm

re: #265 Sharmuta

understood.
That's how I took it.

278 meMarc  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:36:50pm

re: #247 Ben Hur

There's a creepy reenactment over on Slate of the Craig affair interuptus. Didn't bother me till the hand business. Eisch. Would they have reenacted it if he were a Democrat?

That cop pumping his foot up and down went a little too far in my opinion.

279 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:36:54pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Start looking at the age of the accusations. Bluntly, an accusation of something that happened 20 - 30 years ago is nonsense. It may have happened, but it cannot be proved. But these cases go to trial, and the priests are convicted because the juries "believe" the story told.

Very old men who happen to be priests are facing prison terms because of the old anti-papist prejudice.

I am not a Catholic, btw. Not even lapsed.

280 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:37:34pm

re: #264 MandyManners

............ROTFLMAO....................!
Never seen that!

281 opnion  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:37:37pm

Christians don't look at much art? Come on , get real.
I myself have a print of those dogs playing poker. Now that is culture.
Seriously, these brave artists that speak truth to power are afraid to offend Muslims.
These guys should be laughed at & then ignored

282 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:37:42pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

re: #239 Eowyn2


Eowyn killed the head honcho nazgul. The Witch King of Angmar.

IIRC she laughs and says "'Witch King'?! How gay is that?!", just before dispatching him.

she didnt dispatch him...Merry did

283 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:37:50pm
284 Pope Insouciance IV  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:38:02pm

meMarc

Shouldn't Craig come after the Pooch?

Is that what he's into? Yikes!

285 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:38:04pm

re: #245 EC Marm
I'm a bit confused about your question about the victim. Is this what you're getting at?.....
Sacramento Church Sues Alleged Sex Abuse Victim

I've heard various defenders of the Church refer to the victims as anti-Catholic bigots. Is this the new defense?

286 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:38:52pm

re: #273 republic


I agree, and I didn't realize exactly wht you were refering to when I commented, and I am sorry for that.

No need to apologize, friend. It was my fault really.

One of my shortcomings on this blog and in writing is that often what is in my head, doesn't make it onto the post..which it didn't and wasn't clear.

/agree completely with the rest of your post.

287 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:39:20pm

re: #264 MandyManners

Here's a better version.

288 Nobody's Dhimmi  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:39:21pm

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

I looked--- and burst out laughing.
Read what the artists say about their "work".

Reminds me of The Dirt Room. A room full of dirt--- yes, that was the art. If I'm having a rough day, I just have to remember that display.

289 mad_scientist  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:40:40pm
Like so much postmodern art, it's simply meaningless crap posing as profound insight.

Isnt that the truth. It is amazing the crap (literally sometimes) that is passed off as art these days.......

290 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:41:23pm

Some people may not be aware, but there are a few people on this blog that were sexually abused by priests.

Not trying to stifle, just maybe we should be aware that some people have experienced this stuff first hand.

I'm not saying anything here nor there.....just thought I'd interject that.

291 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:41:54pm
It is amazing the crap (literally sometimes) that is passed off as art these days.......

If that's the case, call me Michaelangelo.

At least in the morning.

AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

292 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:41:56pm

ART...reminds me of the fellow who puts paint on his chickens feet and has them walk on his canvas....then sells it for thousands to stupid rich people.

293 republic  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:42:04pm

re: #286 Highrise

re: #273 republic


I agree, and I didn't realize exactly wht you were refering to when I commented, and I am sorry for that.

No need to apologize, friend. It was my fault really.

One of my shortcomings on this blog and in writing is that often what is in my head, doesn't make it onto the post..which it didn't and wasn't clear.

/agree completely with the rest of your post.


I have the same shortcoming myself.

:)

294 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:42:17pm
295 grayp  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:42:29pm

Ah, here we go.
Tolkien and the Gift of Mortality

The wise and good Arwen, who has given up her elvish immortality to be the mortal Aragorn’s queen, is overcome at his deathbed and pleads for him to stay with her longer. He refuses, saying that it is right for him to go with good grace and before he grows feeble. Then he tells her:

I speak no comfort to you, for there is no comfort for such pain within the circles of the world. The uttermost choice is before you: to repent and go to the Havens and bear away into the West the memory of our days together that shall there be evergreen but never more than memory; or else to abide the Doom of Men.

Arwen replies that she has no choice:

I must indeed abide the Doom of Men whether I will or nill: the loss and the silence. But I say to you, King of the Numenoreans, not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall. As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last. For if this is indeed, as the Elves say, the gift of the One to Men, it is bitter to receive.

[]
Personal immortality, or the lure of it, seems to turn members of all these races in on themselves. The Elves dwell more in their memories than in the present; the long-lived mortal races turn to glorious deeds in an attempt at personal immortality. For the Elves and the Ents, the result is a kind of lethargy. For men it can be far more sinister: in Boromir and especially in Denethor, Tolkien shows the pride and despair that come from the pursuit of personal immortality through individual glory.

The Hobbits have no illusions that they can in any sense live forever. As a result, they concentrate on immediate and animal concerns. They pursue immortality only by a far humbler and more mortal path, the ordinary, impersonal, animal immortality of parenthood. It’s no accident that everyone who meets the Hobbits mistakes them for children at first. Even after long acquaintance, they are to Legolas “those merry young folk” and to Treebeard “the Hobbit children.” Something about the Hobbits is so lively and natural that they invariably turn the minds of others toward childhood and children.

This fertility, this willingness to pass life on to a new generation rather than grasping for “endless life unchanging,” is the Hobbits’ great strength, as it should likewise be mankind’s proper strength. It makes them at once humbler than immortals, since they place less confidence in their own individual abilities, and more hopeful, since their own individual defeats are not the end of everything. The life that lives for its offspring may never achieve perfection, but neither is it ever utterly defeated or utterly corrupted. Some hope always remains.

296 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:42:35pm

re: #242 grayp

#197 OldLineTexan


In the book, it was an Elf-lord in a cameo (i.e., you never see him again) role.

Glorifindel, IIRC. He shows up in the Sylmarillion, tho.

thanks, I couldnt remember Glorfindel's name.

297 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:42:56pm

re: #291 Ben Hur

It is amazing the crap (literally sometimes) that is passed off as art these days.......

If that's the case, call me Michaelangelo.

At least in the morning.

AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

On the ceiling?!?!?!? You clean that up NOW!

OldLineTexan

298 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:43:23pm

re: #282 albusteve

she didnt dispatch him...Merry did

Nope, Merry stabbed him in the knee, Eowyn finished him off.

299 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:43:37pm
300 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:44:39pm

re: #269 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, don't leave us Jews out. We slag each other too.

Are you kidding? Nobody, and I mean nobody, loves a good debate/fight more than the Jews on this board. It's like stirring a hornet's nest.

Like I've told you before, LGF has taught me why Jews dominate the legal and debate field. No wonder the Lord calls the Jews a stiff necked people. I'll bet that trip thru the Sinai was one 40 year family argument. Moses never gets due credit for his patience.

301 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:44:40pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

re: #239 Eowyn2


Eowyn killed the head honcho nazgul. The Witch King of Angmar.

IIRC she laughs and says "'Witch King'?! How gay is that?!", just before dispatching him.

rofl

302 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:45:04pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout
I can tell you a little bit about what may happen if the outraged parents show up at the Church. The principal of the school is going to retrieve the lesson plans and course material for the abuse program from the child's teachers. They will be signed by the student, witnessing his attendance in the classroom on the days the program is given twice every year. The parents will see that the child was informed about the beginning steps, the 'feeling out' process, that usually precludes abuse. They will be shown that there is a list of 'responsible adults' that the child is expected to speak with. This could include a school nurse, teacher, school principal, parent(s), and a few others. There is something else going on when the child refuses to notify the appropriate people.

303 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:45:53pm

The mind wobbles...

304 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:46:20pm

re: #298 Occasional Reader

re: #282 albusteve


she didnt dispatch him...Merry did

Nope, Merry stabbed him in the knee, Eowyn finished him off.

And I'm also totally sure she taunts him for his "screamingly gay" name.

305 Highrise  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:47:17pm

re: #302 EC Marm

re: #256 Killgore Trout
I can tell you a little bit about what may happen if the outraged parents show up at the Church. The principal of the school is going to retrieve the lesson plans and course material for the abuse program from the child's teachers. They will be signed by the student, witnessing his attendance in the classroom on the days the program is given twice every year. The parents will see that the child was informed about the beginning steps, the 'feeling out' process, that usually precludes abuse. They will be shown that there is a list of 'responsible adults' that the child is expected to speak with. This could include a school nurse, teacher, school principal, parent(s), and a few others. There is something else going on when the child refuses to notify the appropriate people.

My mother was sexually abused and told no one for decades.

306 Nobody's Dhimmi  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:47:43pm

re: #294 buzzsawmonkey

I wanted to know what they did with the mushrooms....

307 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:47:52pm

re: #279 Dianna

Agreed, many of the older cases get a bit questionable but the abuse was widespread enough and known to the curch that they can usually track things down pretty well. But the case EC is refering to is a new one.....

Affidavit says Naugatuck priest gave 15-year-old boy wine, money for sex favors

308 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:48:03pm

re: #276 jcm

re: #262 grayp

Religious pub? Were do I find one?

It's over now that the summer is nearly done, but Finnegan's Wake pub in Philadelphia hosts a special every Thursday called "Theology on Tap", where patrons gather in the lower level pub to enjoy drink specials & hear a religious talk or two. Needless to say, it's a Catholic thing (bars + church)

309 Wm T Sherman  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:48:12pm

OT:

Moronic CBS graphic shows a MOAB being dropped on a mosque.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

310 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:48:12pm
311 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:49:07pm

re: #298 Occasional Reader

of course youre correct...my bad...time to dust off the finale and get it right again...what a tremendous tale...

312 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:49:13pm
PHOENIX -- A telephone caller making a bomb threat to a Hutchinson, Kan., grocery store kept more than 100 people hostage, demanding they disrobe and that the store wire money to his bank account.

Tuesday's incident may be part of a broader scam targeting other businesses around the country, the FBI said.

FBI spokesman Rich Kolko said the threat appears to be related to a plot in recent days targeting banks and stores in Detroit, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Philadelphia and Newport, R.I.

Police in Kansas safely led the 46 employees and 64 customers, some of whom had taken off their clothes, out of a Dillons grocery store after about 90 minutes

Very strange story. [Link: www.kpho.com...]

313 jcm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:49:21pm

re: #288 Nobody's Dhimmi

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

I looked--- and burst out laughing.
Read what the artists say about their "work".

Reminds me of The Dirt Room. A room full of dirt--- yes, that was the art. If I'm having a rough day, I just have to remember that display.

My last job before going to the UW in Seattle was driving dump truck. On day walking through the quad I saw a pile of river rock (football sized round) on the lawn. I had dump hunderds of piles of rock just like, so I figured they were putting in some drainage. After class the pile of rock had a sign.... I was an entry into the art competition.

314 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:49:27pm

re: #283 buzzsawmonkey

LOL. Last week, my little skinny wife poked me in the chess and said, "you need to get your head in the game and we don't talk like that around here." And it hurt and I told her so. And she had no sympathy.

And I told her that I had developed bad habits from LGF. She told me "you've had bad habits long before LGF, whatever that is."

315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:50:35pm

re: #298 Occasional Reader

re: #282 albusteve

she didnt dispatch him...Merry did

Nope, Merry stabbed him in the knee, Eowyn finished him off.

Bingo. No man could kill the Witch King - Eowyn was no man.

316 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:51:29pm

re: #309 Wm T Sherman

OT:

Moronic CBS graphic shows a MOAB being dropped on a mosque.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

That is amazing.

317 Nobody's Dhimmi  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:51:47pm

re: #313 jcm

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA

318 jcm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:51:58pm

re: #308 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #276 jcm

re: #262 grayp

Religious pub? Were do I find one?

It's over now that the summer is nearly done, but Finnegan's Wake pub in Philadelphia hosts a special every Thursday called "Theology on Tap", where patrons gather in the lower level pub to enjoy drink specials & hear a religious talk or two. Needless to say, it's a Catholic thing (bars + church)

Catholics have got one or two things right ;-Pre: #309 Wm T Sherman

OT:

Moronic CBS graphic shows a MOAB being dropped on a mosque.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

We only bomb mosques, didn't you know that?
/sarc

319 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:03pm

re: #288 Nobody's Dhimmi

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

I looked--- and burst out laughing.
Read what the artists say about their "work".

Reminds me of The Dirt Room. A room full of dirt--- yes, that was the art. If I'm having a rough day, I just have to remember that display.

"It poses the question of what's the future of religion,"

Yes There can be only one. My money is on Jesus.

320 FightingBack  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:04pm
because the Christian community doesn’t look at :

Art

321 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:07pm

re: #309 Wm T Sherman

Was it Time Mag that had a drawing of 9/11 on its cover with a Star of David on the plane?

322 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:33pm

re: #315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey...

true enough and neither was Merry...that was one hell of a scene

323 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:38pm

re: #306 Nobody's Dhimmi

re: #294 buzzsawmonkey

I wanted to know what they did with the mushrooms....

Hobbits stole them.

OldLineTexan
just stitching this back together

324 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:44pm

re: #304 Occasional Reader

re: #298 Occasional Reader


re: #282 albusteve

she didnt dispatch him...Merry did

Nope, Merry stabbed him in the knee, Eowyn finished him off.

And I'm also totally sure she taunts him for his "screamingly gay" name.

Okay, Merry's little dagar cut the sinews which bound his knees thereby making his mace miss Eowyn and throwing the hulking cloak off balance, Eowyn then stabbed him through the opening in the cloak where his face would have been had he been mortal. She still gets the credit.

325 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:52:45pm

re: #315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bingo.

Is that another hobbit?

So you're saying this "Bingo" chap finished off the Witch King?

326 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:53:35pm

re: #313 jcm

re: #288 Nobody's Dhimmi

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

I looked--- and burst out laughing.
Read what the artists say about their "work".

Reminds me of The Dirt Room. A room full of dirt--- yes, that was the art. If I'm having a rough day, I just have to remember that display.

My last job before going to the UW in Seattle was driving dump truck. On day walking through the quad I saw a pile of river rock (football sized round) on the lawn. I had dump hunderds of piles of rock just like, so I figured they were putting in some drainage. After class the pile of rock had a sign.... I was an entry into the art competition.

Reading through a back issue of The New Criterion, I came across an art review that said a gallery's janitor threw away one of the "art works", thinking it was a pile of trash. Who could blame him, since it literally was a pile of trash.

327 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:54:00pm
328 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:54:19pm

re: #324 Eowyn2

She still gets the credit.

Yep. Merry gets an "assist".

329 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:54:50pm
330 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:55:23pm

re: #309 Wm T Sherman

OT:

Moronic CBS graphic shows a MOAB being dropped on a mosque.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

I know I should be outraged at yet another example of MSM bias, but I just can't help but laugh at how childish that cartoon is! If only we tested our weapons systems out like that!

331 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:56:00pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Some of my best work in done on the can. I call it chasing Bin Ladin out of his cave.

332 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:56:01pm

Eowyn was later prosecuted for a hate crime, based on her "how gay is that?!" remark. Little-known footnote to

The Return of the King

.

333 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:56:57pm

Okay, Merry's little dagar cut the sinews which bound his knees thereby making his mace miss Eowyn and throwing the hulking cloak off balance, Eowyn then stabbed him through the opening in the cloak where his face would have been had he been mortal. She still gets the credit.

she got the mine and he got the shaft...

334 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:57:50pm

re: #325 Occasional Reader

re: #315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bingo.

Is that another hobbit?

So you're saying this "Bingo" chap finished off the Witch King?

I think "Bingo" might be one of the dwarfs from The Hobbit - they had some pretty weird names.

335 jcm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:58:49pm

re: #331 rab3

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Some of my best work in done on the can. I call it chasing Bin Ladin out of his cave.

Do you declare a fatwa before jiggling the handle?

336 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:59:23pm
I think "Bingo" might be one of the dwarfs from The Hobbit - they had some pretty weird names.

Bingo son of Bongo

337 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:59:32pm

You guys and gals are better than me. I've seen the Lord of the Rings at least three times each, have them all on DVD, and still can never remember anybody's name.

338 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:59:43pm

re: #325 Occasional Reader

re: #315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Bingo.

Is that another hobbit?

So you're saying this "Bingo" chap finished off the Witch King?

Bingo Baggins was written out of the Red Book of Westmarch; there was an unfortunate incident involving goat dung and some post-Numenoreanistic artwork that was an embarrassment to the family. His many contributions to the War of the Rings have been sadly edited out of the official accounts. These days, only isolated critics (called "Ringers" by their detractors) still put forth the "Bingo did it" story of the end of the Third Age.

OldLineTexan
still bringing all those parts together

339 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:59:49pm

re: #334 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

they had some pretty weird names.

Well, what did you expect? "I am Steve, son of Gloin"?

340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:01:12pm

re: #339 Occasional Reader

re: #334 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

they had some pretty weird names.

Well, what did you expect? "I am Steve, son of Gloin"?

There were some traditional names in Middle Earth, like Sam. And Bill - though he was a pony.

341 Cry of defiance and not of fear  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:02:44pm

"icons of Islam"? Islam rejects the Incarnation, the Crucifixion and the Resurrection and without going into the theology of the icon, I can only say that you cannot have such a disbelief system as Islam and also have "icons." The icon was recognized as the true art of the Christian Church by the last Ecumenical Council (787AD Second Council of Nicaea).

All that Moslems have ever done with regard to icons is to destroy or deface them (literally, eradicating the faces of the iconic images) in the millions. They are still doing so. That remark about 'icons of Islam' speaks volumes about ignorance of faith, art and history.

As to depicting the Mother of God in a burkha, that is part of what will be the next step, after pretending that the moon god 'allah' is the 'same' deity as the True God and that Jesus ('isa') and Mary (miriam) are "highly revered" in Islam. Actually, the koran refers to them both as 'gods.' The whole idiocy of the burka (that it is worn to disguise the fact that woman, in Islam, is 'awrat' --- a shameful orifice, and must be hidden) is a total rejection of the Incarnation.

342 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:02:52pm
343 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:03:05pm

re: #340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

that was old Bill son of Trigger

344 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:04:06pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

Did Heinlein come up with "to grok"? I thought it was Vonnegut.

345 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:04:14pm
346 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:04:34pm

re: #335 jcm

re: #331 rab3

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Some of my best work in done on the can. I call it chasing Bin Ladin out of his cave.

Do you declare a fatwa before jiggling the handle?

No but I thought I heard him yell Allah Akbar on his way to the 72 turd virgins.

347 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:05:19pm
348 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:06:25pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

The priest should face a jury for soliciting underage prostitution and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. He should also be defrocked.

The "victim" clearly needs help.

349 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:06:27pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey


you know Im gonna dig up SIASL...only read it when it was released...didnt whats his name lay in the bottom of a pool and and do trig or whatever for pleasure?...I just loved Heinlein back in the day...thanks for the oblique tip amigo

350 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:07:10pm

re: #349 albusteve

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey


you know Im gonna dig up SIASL...only read it when it was released...didnt whats his name lay in the bottom of a pool and and do trig or whatever for pleasure?...I just loved Heinlein back in the day...thanks for the oblique tip amigo

Micheal Smith was it?

351 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:07:50pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkeyHeinlein's

Stranger in a Strange Land were required reading back when I was in college

I tried to pick that up and read it 25 years later and I said to myself, what a load of crap. What did I ever see in that book? Musta been the easy sex.

352 Outrider  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:08:05pm

And let the seething and rioting begin in 3...2..Oh wait! Sorry, wrong religion there. Let the tolerance of multiculturism begin.

353 albusteve  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:08:08pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

re: #339 Occasional Reader

"I am Mean, son of Abitch."


thats too friggin funny

354 Alouette  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:08:35pm

Speaking of LOTR, sort of, did anyone see "One Night With The King" the hideously inaccurate Hollyweird extravaganza of Megillat Esther, featuring John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) as Mordecai and John Noble (Denethor) as some satrap of Ahasuerus?

355 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:09:58pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

Since I hung around with engineers, they all read the Hitch-Hiker's Guide back before anyone had heard about it.

356 leepro  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:10:08pm

re: #17 Sponge

Why are artists such douchebags?

Artists (all of us?) are not all demented, evil portrayers of filth! As an artist, myself, and with knowledge of all great artists from centuries past up to, yes, even today, I take personal offense at your blanket label.

357 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:11:17pm

You'll find an astonishing number of Lord of the Rings names in the Anglo Saxon Rune Poem.

358 Farang Kheemao  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:12:04pm

re: #101 Iron Fist

re: #52 socalinfidel,

Just put the Koran in a jar and piss on it. Instant art!

it also needs a Mo bobble head doll standing on the koran.

359 rightinaz  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:12:49pm

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.
WTF? Will the nonsense from these idiots ever cease? Yikes.

360 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:12:55pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

re: #339 Occasional Reader

"I am Mean, son of Abitch."

LMAO!

361 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:14:42pm

re: #357 Dianna

Hobbit geek fest.

/sarc. don't hurt me Dianna still licking wounds for yesterday.

362 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:16:19pm

re: #357 Dianna

And in the Norse Edda. There is a long list of Dwarves in the Voluspa (Seeress' Prophecy -- strophes 10ff) which includes not only most of the Dwarf names but Gandalf as well.

I've read some of Tolkein's scholarly works -- the man was a frickin' genius.

363 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:16:22pm

re: #361 rab3

Geeking on Tolkien isn't geeking...is it?

364 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:17:58pm

About the Uniting Church of Australia:

The Uniting Church is the third largest Christian denomination in Australia. It has around 2,800 congregations, 51 presbyteries and seven synods. Uniting Church members number 300,000 while 1.3 million Australians claim an association.

[Link: www.uca.org.au...]

365 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:18:31pm

re: #363 Dianna

Don't know. I did not even rise to the level of nerd let alone Geek.

366 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:19:26pm

re: #362 Lucius Septimius

Whoot! We're talking about the same poem!

"Would you know more, or not?"

I remember reading that (I'm a huge fan of the Eddas, and of the Icelandic Sagas), and saying, "Huh?"

This was before I'd read LOTR; I actually came to Tolkien's fiction backwards, because I was given his translation of Gawaine and the Green Knight for Christmas in 1970.

367 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:21:45pm

re: #365 rab3

OK. Well, I remember my first encounter with LOTR. I dreamed in Tolkien for months.

368 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:25:05pm

re: #366 Dianna

Great minds and all that.

Gotta run.

369 FightingBack  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:25:31pm

the Christian community doesn't look at art...

Well, maybe not the crap you call art.

370 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:27:32pm
371 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:28:07pm

re: #367 Dianna

Oops real work calling be right back.

372 marwan's daughter  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:32:24pm

re: #232 Highrise

I believe God will do the final defending in the end.

Takes the pressure off of me.

And we know what he will do with fools like these "artists".

373 Kirly  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:33:03pm
Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

have we figured out whether this reverend is a dolt or he made this statement because he knows Christians aren't impressed by this type of so-called art?

if these artists are anything like the self-hating freaks who invented the Arizona 911 Memorial, you can bet I wouldn't waste my time looking at their vile bilge dreck. but, now that we know about it, we should be verbally attack it at every turn. so, where do i send my letter of complaint?

374 Josephine  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:33:48pm

Oh, no, this is disgusting. I hope there are a lot of protests.

375 coz  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:34:05pm

re: #1 Ben Hur

Don't take it sitting down, COZ!

How in the world did I miss this thread!

376 coz  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:34:31pm

oh ya almost forgot ...

Ben!

377 Josephine  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:38:34pm

re: #52 socalinfidel

Thank god for freedom of speech and muslims respecting art....I would like to call my new piece the "converting Quran" Basically its a quran that morphs into a machine gun and kills infidels....I better be careful as I design it cause I wouldnt want to get hurt....but its a perfect quran because it does what muhammad said to do....oh wait, I should make it ask to have the people convert beforehand or pay the jizya and be a dhimmi....damn, back to the drawing board

That's a clever idea. Just don't draw it at school or you'll be suspended.

378 Josephine  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:42:31pm

re: #95 cosmo

I remember counting how many licks it took to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

379 ColoradoJim  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:54:07pm

Isn't it amazing that when one of these doofuses gets caught doing something insulting and obnoxious, he always falls back "I did it to spark debate."

And, "Well, its OK, because Christians are too unsophisticated and stupid to look at art. Therefore, they didn't see this offensive crap and couldn't have been insulted."

380 kirche  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:56:06pm

#355 lucius sept

"Since I hung around with engineers, they all read the Hitch-Hiker's Guide back before anyone had heard about it."

that's too funny... way waaaaay back in my engineering career at koltanbar engineering - - after the invention of the wheel (can't remember the engineers' name) and before the computer - - i found a tattered old copy of hitch hikers' guide to the galaxy in the drawer of an old drawing board. i'd never heard of it and remember perusing the cover and thinking, "what the hell?!". i was hooked after a few pages and read the entire series over the years. i was sure to place the copy i'd found back in the drawer after i'd read it.

381 missouri boy  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 2:56:52pm

Why are our tax dollars used , to pay for "art" , no one else would pay for? enquireing minds ... want to know...

382 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:00:19pm

re: #381 missouri boy

"A government artist is an incompetent whore."

Fortunately, this story is from Australia, and our tax dollars never got anywhere near it.

383 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:05:08pm
384 missouri boy  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:05:59pm

re: #382 Dianna

re: #381 missouri boy

"A government artist is an incompetent whore."

Fortunately, this story is from Australia, and our tax dollars never got anywhere near it.

SO true.....however look at the crap , we do pay for....

385 pat  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:09:22pm
Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity. “It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

Those are images of Islam. I think the forced conversion of Christians into Muslims is an important art subject.

386 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:11:53pm

re: #385 pat

Australian Christian Lobby spokeswoman Glynis Quinlan questioned whether the artists would have used icons of Islam rather than Christianity. “It’s really unfortunate people take liberties with the Christian faith they wouldn’t take with other religions,” she said.

Those are images of Islam. I think the forced conversion of Christians into Muslims is an important art subject.

that is briliant.

387 CLLRusso  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:12:15pm

re: #373 Kirly

Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

have we figured out whether this reverend is a dolt or he made this statement because he knows Christians aren't impressed by this type of so-called art?

I am an artist, I am a Christian, and I look at lots of art!

What a blockhead.

388 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:13:14pm

re: #383 buzzsawmonkey

I'll tell you what scares me: the "avant gard" hasn't changed in over 100 years. At least not in music. We're still hearing atonal, anti-melodic junk, and undiminished sevenths are still "cool."

Art? No better, although we're still at least a decade off the century mark, so far.

Fashion? Politics? We're still treating century-old ideas as "progressive", "radical" and "new"!

Time for something different.

389 Kirly  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:13:21pm

re: #380 kirche

#355 lucius sept

"Since I hung around with engineers, they all read the Hitch-Hiker's Guide back before anyone had heard about it."

that's too funny... way waaaaay back in my engineering career at koltanbar engineering - - after the invention of the wheel (can't remember the engineers' name) and before the computer - - i found a tattered old copy of hitch hikers' guide to the galaxy in the drawer of an old drawing board. i'd never heard of it and remember perusing the cover and thinking, "what the hell?!". i was hooked after a few pages and read the entire series over the years. i was sure to place the copy i'd found back in the drawer after i'd read it.

heh. engineer here. never even heard of it until the movie came out.

390 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:14:24pm

re: #384 missouri boy

I try not to.

Public art should beautify; the trash thrown up in our public squares and in front of our shopping centers is shudderingly ugly, or meaningless.

391 Kirly  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:15:13pm

re: #387 CLLRusso

re: #373 Kirly


Reverend Rod Pattenden said he didn’t expect the exhibition to be controversial, “because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

have we figured out whether this reverend is a dolt or he made this statement because he knows Christians aren't impressed by this type of so-called art?
I am an artist, I am a Christian, and I look at lots of art!

What a blockhead.

did you just call me a blockhead? hahaha. or, was that for the reverend?

blockhead. that word is just funny. lol

392 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:20:23pm

re: #367 Dianna

No much dreaming here. Being a victim of the California school system, as a well as fighting the A.D.D. which in my day they called "He talks to much and isn't living up to his potential", made reading anything a chore. Still does. I am waiting for the development of a brain transplant. One that can focus and live up to it's potential. So ends my TMI session for the day.

393 doubledip  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:23:15pm
because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal

Is the good reverend then implying that the Muslim community looks at art more than the Christian community? Nay, perhaps even less. So that being the case, why no art pieces depicting Muhammad in less-than-flattering ways, hmm?

394 Dianna  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:25:03pm

I'm out. Errands, then an endless train ride, then practice, then home and hopefully some sleep.

Which would make a nice change.

395 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:25:53pm
396 Airedale  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:28:04pm

dunno if this was covered but it is a video of the Korean "brainwashers"indo of kids;

doesn't get the official seal of aproval by the ROP did it......


wonder how much ca$h the Koreans gave the Taliban, under the table that is.
who's kidding who eh?
it'll all come out in an Italian tabloid or two by a freed Italian journalist .

geeze, whatever happened to that woman any way

397 Republican Party Reptile  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:32:28pm

Art that's offensive to Christians!? I'm going to go get my suicide vest, strap it to a liberal, throw him into the art gallery, and press the detonator.

Oh wait, I'm a Christian. Since I'm not a barbarian, I'll instead shake my head in disgust and write a strongly worded letter that clearly expresses my feelings to all invovled. At which point I'll probably be called "uneducated" and "close minded".

398 LoneSome Journey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:41:47pm

Maybe this will wake up these self proclaimed "artists" who defame CHRISTIANITY and CHRISTIAN symbols while playing meek and timid with the same for the islamic cult. CHRISTIANS have just about had their fill of such shenanigans and as happened in Australia, they are demonstrating this outrage.

Government authorities had better take heed and wake up before they show more CHRISTIAN symbols in a defamatory situation with the farce of a reason "it's art". CHRISTIANS may no longer sit back and ignore these outrages and let them pass. As demonstrated by these CHRISTIANS in Australia, they can and they do get angry and that anger, once unleashed, will not stop at the door to the "museum" any longer.

It's not just the "museums", CHRISTIANS may follow the actions that have been permitted for the islamic cult and take on the "artists" as well. CHRISTIANS will not be doing any "beheading", but there are other ways to display their anger and frustrations.

So, lunatic "artists" are you ready to take on the civilized half of the US, the CHRISTIANS?

399 LoneSome Journey  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:48:18pm

392 rab3 Re: Brain transplant

Forget trying wal mart. There few sizes to choose from and depending on what level of intellect you want, they can really get up there in price.

Take a brain from a dead homicide bomber, it goes for $10,000 a pound and no warranty.

There is a reason for the high price. It has so little use doing rational thinking. The no warranty is due to years of banging the head on the floor.

400 Daisy  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:51:57pm

“because the Christian community doesn’t look at art a great deal”.

Apparently, the Reverend Rod Pattenden has not heard about the Renaissance.

401 rab3  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 3:53:58pm

re: #399 LoneSome Journey

Isn't there some assembly required here. I mean first you have to pick it off the walls after the explosion and all. To much work.

402 Kaboomboom  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 4:02:13pm

Mary in a burka?

How do we know? It could be Pauly Shore with his arm hair shaved off.

re: #120 Sharmuta

I wonder what kind of riots would ensue if an artist depicted mohammed morphing into a pedophile.

What do you mean morphed? Wouldn't that indicate a change from one entity to another?

re: #204 macintush

Apparently, Buddhists create art; Jews then buy the art; Christians appreciate the art; then Muslims blow it up!

Oh I see [... waiting for black helicopter to fly by...] it's a Buddhist conspiracy to ripoff the Jews!

re: #263 Occasional Reader

re: #332 Occasional Reader

IIRC she laughs and says "'Witch King'?! How gay is that?!", just before dispatching him.

Eowyn was later prosecuted for a hate crime, based on her "how gay is that?!" remark. Little-known footnote to

The Return of the King

ROFL!

403 gromster  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 4:24:28pm

#8. Exactly!

The artist probably didn't even really have a message behind the image - he just knew that if you slap a controversial figure such as bin Laden by one of Jesus that it would hack some people off.

I was a visual arts major in college, and I had to sit through quite a number of courses taught by liberal art professors who thought this kind of stuff was actual art.

404 gromster  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 4:35:54pm

As for the comment that "Christians don't look at art," Daisy (post #400) raised an excellent point.

I'm a Christian, and as I already mentioned, I was a visual arts major.

One of my Christian friends was also a visual arts major.

We took lots of art history courses in college, visited art museums, etc. (in addition to taking painting/drawing courses).

My sister is a Christian, and she studies art on her own (one of her favorites is Dali).

There's some nun who has her own TV show about art. She goes to museums, stands by paintings and discusses them.

To say that Christians don't look at art or take an interest in it is untrue.

#11. I'm a big animal lover - that story is very, very sad.

But from what you wrote, the cats survived (or at least one did)?

(I couldn't bring myself to watch the video, btw.)

Are there any updates, are the kitties going to be okay?

405 cygnus  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 4:37:39pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Whoever put those cats in that box should be blown up. Poor kitties!

Possible headlines for the 2nd suspicious box:

Grapes of Wrath
Instant Wine-making with Explosives - a How-To Video

406 chee toe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 5:17:21pm

re: #384 missouri boy

re: #382 Dianna


re: #381 missouri boy

"A government artist is an incompetent whore."

Fortunately, this story is from Australia, and our tax dollars never got anywhere near it.

And that, my friends I why I've worked part time jobs for years while making art and raising children - no government whore money for me!


SO true.....however look at the crap , we do pay for....
407 chee toe  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 5:19:36pm

re: #403 gromster

#8. Exactly!

The artist probably didn't even really have a message behind the image - he just knew that if you slap a controversial figure such as bin Laden by one of Jesus that it would hack some people off.

I was a visual arts major in college, and I had to sit through quite a number of courses taught by liberal art professors who thought this kind of stuff was actual art.

And this was supposed to be .....wait for it.... intelligent! Been there! Heard that! Tried to teach my students some integrity inside the toilet bowl...good times....

408 Against Socialism  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 5:20:33pm

Proverbs 14:9 Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour.

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Why hello there Mr. Pattenden...

409 cbinflux  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 6:18:43pm

Unfortunate, wot?!

410 NoSpam  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:14:40pm

re: #326 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #313 jcm


re: #288 Nobody's Dhimmi

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama


I looked--- and burst out laughing.
Read what the artists say about their "work".

Reminds me of The Dirt Room. A room full of dirt--- yes, that was the art. If I'm having a rough day, I just have to remember that display.


My last job before going to the UW in Seattle was driving dump truck. On day walking through the quad I saw a pile of river rock (football sized round) on the lawn. I had dump hunderds of piles of rock just like, so I figured they were putting in some drainage. After class the pile of rock had a sign.... I was an entry into the art competition.

Reading through a back issue of The New Criterion, I came across an art review that said a gallery's janitor threw away one of the "art works", thinking it was a pile of trash. Who could blame him, since it literally was a pile of trash.

I remember that. It was bags of garbage left out as some kind of 'protest art' (i.e. I am lazy and forgot to take out the garbage AND I was too busy to finish my art skool project, hey, I know! *lightbulbs*)

I half wonder sometimes if a lot of this art is borne more from laziness than anything else. How much thought really goes into a lot of this so-called art anyway. I look at a lot of these projects and I think I could make that, so why is this guy getting paid 5 grand to poo in a jar? What makes his poo so special? If the average chimp with a paintbrush can do it, it is not high art--unless it really IS done by a chimp with a paintbrush, then it's kind of cool. I like chimpanzees. They're evil little SOB's, but they're fun to watch.

There is actually an artist out there (can't remember his name or I'd post a link) who makes piles of trash that when one shines a light on them in just the right way from just the right angle, you get a perfect and very detailed shilouette of, say, people laying on the beach or a city skyline. But when you look at it without proper lighting all it looks like is a pile of trash.

I actually thought it was kind of neat. Not that I'd pay actual money for it, but that he did something different that actually required, you know, TALENT and had no political/social/whatever message.

ooh, anybody remember the 'lake of blood' 'art' exhibit that caused a stir a few years back. It was a reflecting pool of red liquid (not real blood) that had a little boat floating in it with a picture of a suicide bomber serving as the sail. Thought provoking! /sarc, gag

411 NoSpam  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:19:09pm

re: #339 Occasional Reader

"I am Mean, son of Abitch."

You are awesome and I will be stealing your tagline now.

/yoink

412 NoSpam  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:21:16pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

413 Daisy  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:22:44pm

re: #404 gromster

gromster, yes, the Reverend's comment was so off the wall inaccurate that it's impossible not to consider him an ignoramus. For Heaven's sake, the history of Western art is essentially a Christian phenomena!

414 NoSpam  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:23:49pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry, my second post was an attempt to correct my first and credit the proper awesome person with the awesome quote.

PIMF *smacks head*

I think this means I should go to sleep now.

Sorry to O.R. And buzzsaw, you are both indeed awesome.

415 erevu  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:33:09pm

They should include a piece of "art" with George Bush morphing into Muhammad.

416 Student of Objectivism  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 7:56:52pm

The only reason why Christians don't riot over things that offend them is because the majority of Christians are Westerners. People who grow up in mainstream Western societies don't riot because they have an implicit respect for individual rights. When they get pissed, they complain, change the channel, write letters, etc, but they don't initiate force.

Back when the West was backward, the Dark Ages, Christians would burn people for insulting God. Now, the Pope rides in cars and airplanes and most Americans think being Christian means going to church on Sunday and being nice to people.

417 29Victor  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 8:12:45pm

...and yet Opus is censored in the U.S.

418 Cygnus  Wed, Aug 29, 2007 8:35:13pm

re: #187 Boot Hill

here is the dreaded artwork...

Mary in burqa, Christ morph into osama

At least it's not made with cow dung this time. Pretty lame though.
Start of Christian rioting in 3...2...1....

419 aussie_dave  Thu, Aug 30, 2007 1:37:21am

I am an Australian Christian

I was offended by the art works and I did feel like expressing my anger.

But as my religion is one of true peace I decided against it.


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