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Lebanese Man Arrested with Bombs in Ontario

Sat, Sep 1, 2007 at 8:05:49 am PDT

A Lebanese immigrant to Canada has been charged with sending letter bombs in Ontario, after being arrested with three bombs in his car.

Toronto police have charged a man who they suspect was involved with sending letter/parcel bombs that were received around Southern Ontario recently.

At a press conference this morning, Deputy Chief Tony Warr confirmed police have seized three bombs, found in the trunk of a silver sedan at an Esso gas station on Overlea Blvd., just west of Thorncliffe Park Dr. Warr would not provide any details about the power or size of the bombs.

The suspect entered the gas station last night around 10 p.m. and was arrested as he left, witnesses say. Police took the bombs today from the scene to the Leslie Street Spit, where they were safely detonated at about 2:40 p.m.

Toronto police are falling over themselves to insist this is a completely unique phenomenon, part of a broad strata in which absolutely no pattern whatsoever can be detected. It would be funny if it weren’t so deadly serious.

Warr said the suspect is a landed immigrant from Lebanon with a Canadian passport, but police do not believe the crimes were motivated by religion or politics.

“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

Previously at LGF:
Hizballah Marketed in Ontario As ‘Peaceful’

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1 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:07:56am

hmmm.

2 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:08:29am

What's a "landed immigrant"?

3 FQ Kafir  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:08:44am
There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

I wonder who the bombs were addressed to, and if there was a letter, what did it say?

4 Fast Eddie  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:09:06am

Inspector Clouseau would be proud.

5 pegcity  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:10:10am

i seem to remember a certain Hezbollah billboard in Ontario

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:11:16am

re: #3 FQ Kafir

I'm wondering the same thing. Who was he sending them to?

7 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:11:32am

No pattern? Hmmm, this must be a case for Sherlock Holmes. Let's see. From Lebanon? What religion is he? Oh, muslim. Hmmm, this is a difficult one to sort out. You say he was caught with pipe bombs in his possession? Wonder if he was a fund raiser for one of the terrorist groups? Could it be he was doing revenge bombings? Could it be that he was extorting money from his victims?

What do you think Watson?

8 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:11:36am

The broad strata strikes again in Ontario.

9 Sizzlack  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:12:01am

Of course this has nothing to do with him being from Lebanon
no religious motivations whatsoever
he was simply sending out these letter bombs in anticipation of the NFL kickoff weekend starting thursday
DUH

10 JWM  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:12:43am
Warr said the suspect is a landed immigrant from Lebanon with a Canadian passport, but police do not believe the crimes were motivated by religion or politics.

“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

Some kinds of stupid come naturally. Stupid like this takes a lot of effort.

JWM

11 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:06am

So then what was the bastard's motive?
re: #2 MandyManners

Inquiring minds want to know!

12 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:26am

There must be a pattern, there has to be......
this is a job for Sherlock Holmes... no? OK Inspector Clouseau.... no?

OK then bring on the big guns! Mr Bean, we have a case for you

13 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:49am

This version gives his full name......

Adel Mohamed Arnaout

I wonder what religoin he is?

14 nextstopmars  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:52am

I read somewhere that the letter bombs were a personal vendetta. However, at the time they police couldn't find a link among the recipients and were telling everyone to be careful.

Nobody up here believes the broad strata line.

15 jcm  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:55am

48 hour rule, he might be Lebanese Amish.

16 vapig  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:15:57am

“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

Is this guy joking or just being PC? This policy of allowing any one of ME origin to come into their country with no questions asked is really beginning to bite them in the rear.

I really do hope they wake up soon.

17 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:16:16am

Toronto police discovered a large hole had been dug outside their headquarters by an unknown individual/group. Asked what they were going to do, the police commissioner said "we will get to the bottom of this." One week later they were asked about the state of the investigation and the commissioner said "we are looking into it."

Keystone cops

18 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:16:50am

They say that religion, ideology nor nationality was a factor—but then only tell us his nationality. As this is, no doubt, an ongoing investigation, additional details will be few. So is he just an ordinary psycho or a psycho-with-a-cause? Knowing who the letters were sent to would help.

19 Pope Urban  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:17:22am

Who would have guessed that the "lone nut" theory was so popular?
I seem to recall a lot of these "lone nuts" lately.

20 JWM  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:18:07am

PC: systematically replacing uncomfortable truths with cozy lies.

No pattern at all...

JWM

21 infidel4ever  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:18:25am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

This version gives his full name......


Adel Mohamed Arnaout

I wonder what religoin he is?

Another sad case of Mohameditis...

22 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:18:32am

re: #19 Pope Urban

Who would have guessed that the "lone nut" theory was so popular?
I seem to recall a lot of these "lone nuts" lately.

Seems though that the 'lone nuts' do have one thing in common and that is their religious beliefs.

23 zmdavid  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:18:36am

Fron the link:

"There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality," Warr said.

Although he would not explain in detail, the officer said he believes specific locations were targeted.

"We know there were targets. They weren't just random targets. There was a reason why he delivered the parcels to certain addresses."

So they're not motivated by religion, ideology, or nationality, but also not random. What else could it be? Insurance fraud or something?

24 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:18:57am

Someone was looking to have a blast over labor day weekend...

*spit*

25 jcm  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:02am

re: #19 Pope Urban

Who would have guessed that the "lone nut" theory was so popular?
I seem to recall a lot of these "lone nuts" lately.

Yeah, a certain RoP seems to generate a lot of lone nuts. Not making any connection or anything, just an observation.

26 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:14am

Henceforth, He shall be known as the The Canadian Lebanese Random Letter Bomber With Absolutely No Pattern of Religion, Ideology or Nationality. (CLRLBAPIN).

27 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:19am

re: #19 Pope Urban

With that many wacky nuts there has got to be a wacky tree around somewhere.

28 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:24am

Here one recipient.....
Renovator escaped injury when the package didn't explode but feared someone was trying to kill him


The owner of a renovation business, Becker tore open a Canada Post "Xpresspost" envelope on Aug. 22 that contained an improvised explosive device but failed to detonate. "I feel very lucky," he said. "I opened it right in my face."

Waterloo Regional police bomb experts detonated the bomb.

Becker said he has had no dealings with the suspect or other bomb recipients. However, Toronto police believe the three were targeted.

No clues.

29 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:38am

Adel Mohamed Arnaout could be an Amish name. Did the bombs use electricity?

30 JWM  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:19:47am

Odd how all these lone nuts seem to fall from the same tree.

JWM

31 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:20:27am

re: #29 David IV of Georgia

Or a windmill?

32 vapig  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:20:40am

#19 Pope Urban

No kidding! But if we think our MSM are water-carriers in covering this sort of thing up they truly are amateurs compared to Canada and the UK.

33 jcm  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:21:23am

re: #30 JWM

Odd how all these lone nuts seem to fall from the same tree.

JWM

Now stop jumping to conclusion or we'll have to ship you to re-education camp.

34 daughter of patriots  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:22:07am

Perhaps he was one of those Christian warriors Ms. Amanpour waxed eloquently about on CNN last week?

/inquiring minds and all that!

35 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:22:07am

Where are the Hardy Boys when you need them?

Raging clues.

36 Dianna  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:22:12am

I believe that "landed" means he owns property?

Does this mean we can start asking about where the money came from?

37 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:22:27am

Must have been the white out fumes collecting in a poorly ventilated room that cause the momentary lapse of reason in the Toronto police department.

38 JWM  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:22:39am

re: #33 jcm


Consider me duly chastised.
;)

JWM

39 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:24:19am
40 Dianna  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:24:29am

re: #28 Killgore Trout

"No dealings with the suspect or other recipients"? That makes no sense. Even nuts have some sort of grievance - remember Kazinski?

41 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:24:58am

New movie titiled Clueless in Toronto coming soon to a theater near you. See how the Toronto police department bungle case after case after case when it comes to dealing with suspects from the middle east.

42 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:25:31am
"There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality," Warr said.


He must have sent them to his place of employment just to get the day off.
Must have been mo's birthday or something

43 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:25:48am

re: #30 JWM

Odd how all these lone nuts seem to fall from the same tree.

JWM

You just a typical Yank Bigot. Didn't you read the article. There is absolutely no pattern whatsoever. It's just a random bud, who happens to be randomly choosing addresses, to send a few little northern hospitality letters. What's the big deal ehh?

44 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:26:01am

A few more tidbits here....
Cops look for motive in letter bombings

Yesterday Adel Mohamed Arnaout of 176 Ashdale Ave., was remanded to Sept. 5 during an appearance in provincial court. Within hours, police were scouring the bungalow at 176 Ashdale Ave., which neighbours said was sometimes home to up to 30 people at a time and was called the 'Bombay Bunker' because of its double steel doors.

According to police sources, the investigation began in June when Toronto resident Steven Scott complained to police of being harassed by a man.

Police wouldn't go into the connections between the bomb recipients -- Toronto resident Abdelmagid Radi, Toronto real estate laywer Terrence Reiber and Guelph contractor John Becker -- but stressed they weren't chosen at random.


Huh.

45 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:26:29am

re: #2 MandyManners

"MM" -

Canadian Equivalent of Green Card Holder. Hope Canadian authorities revoke his status and ship him out, after a stiff jail term.

-S-

46 FQ Kafir  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:26:50am

See if he has any ties to the Khadrs.

47 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:27:19am

OT:

this Book - sounds like what american leftists are striving for:
(I wonder what Camron diaz would think?)

The author of this absorbing memoir was a misfit in the most misfit-intolerant place on earth. Coming of age during the Cultural Revolution, Kang kept secret diaries, disdained the political sloganeering at his university and was sent away for requesting the suspect novel Doctor Zhivago—crimes that landed him a three-year prison term and resettlement in a peasant commune where the work was almost as backbreaking as in the camps. His story is a lively, intricate account of communism's panoptic police state, suffocating bureaucracy (residency permits and ration cards made moving, working and eating impossibly complex) and rabid witch hunts for imaginary class villains, all of which only exacerbated traditional obsessions with obtaining food, housing and a spouse. But official denunciations of Kang's bad attitude weren't entirely wrong. "I treasured laziness," he writes. "I admired the work habits of carnivorous animals like lions... free to loll around all day once they had finished capturing their prey." Such profoundly unproletarian sentiments put him at odds not only with the Party but with his despairing parents and disgruntled villagers who felt he was shirking in the fields. Kang's rugged individualism takes his story beyond the usual narrative of persecution and hardship, making it an incisive, personal critique of a deeply conformist society.

ht/insta

48 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:27:28am

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

49 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:27:31am

re: #40 Dianna

It doesn't make sense, he had no dealings with them but the weren't chosen at random. I'm stumped.

50 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:28:20am

re: #39 savage_nation

re: #35 MandyManners

Where are the Hardy Boys when you need them?

Raging clues.

How bout Nancy Drew?

The Hardly Boys will break this case wide open with a Big Clue!

51 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:29:14am
52 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:31:16am

On another note: Two planes were flown into the World Trade Center today, killing thousands of people, but police do not believe the crimes were motivated by religion or politics.

“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

Just awesome....!

Don't bogart the bong, Warr.

~Norsk Troll

53 daughter of patriots  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:31:25am

Could it be that these 3 recipients offended old Mohammed in some way? Becker, because he's a kaffir. Abdelmagid Radi is perhaps enjoying Western life too much, and considered apostate? And Reiber? Perhaps he'd refused to do business with a Muslim?

Intimidation...its in the Alqueda Guide Book for Dummies.

54 Dianna  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:31:42am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Yeah, flat-out contradictions.

On the other hand, Kazinski had something against Sylvan Learning Centers, which always sent me off into giggling fits. Once he'd been arrested, that is.

55 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:31:54am

Time to drag out the clue bats and several clue x 4s since Holmes, Watson, the Hardy Boys, Nacy Drew, Inspector Cleusou, etal are on the case.

56 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:32:08am

re: #51 savage_nation

re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

Islam is NOT A RACE!

/how ya doing? :D

Yes--it is a race, Savage~!

A race to the bottom....

~Norsk Troll

57 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:32:31am
58 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:34:08am

re: #51 savage_nation

re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

Islam is NOT A RACE!

/how ya doing? :D


just pointing that out shows how much of a bigot you are

/great! its my birthday today, college football is on TV and i am mixing my first Bloody Mary!

60 Goosio  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:35:04am

"“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said."

What a crock of shit. The police are doing the terrorists' work for them.

This dumbass should be fired right now for saying something so deluded.

61 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:35:24am
62 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:37:13am

If CAIR insists they are fireworks, then we know he is innocent.

The two "boys" with "fireworks" in their trunk were indicted by a grand jury yesterday. Seems they were also talking about "bomb-making" for nefarious purposes.

63 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:37:18am

re: #61 savage_nation

lol! You wouldn't steer a fella wrong now would you?!?!?

64 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:37:18am
65 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:38:08am
66 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:38:49am

re: #59 JammieWearingFool

Very interesting.

67 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:39:30am

re: #12 blutonazi98

There must be a pattern, there has to be......
this is a job for Sherlock Holmes... no? OK Inspector Clouseau.... no?

OK then bring on the big guns! Mr Bean, we have a case for you

Mr. Bean's observations would be of more benefit than this "Warr" guy's.

Bean would probably figure it out faster, too.

What nonsense.

/I never dreamed that George Orwell was a prophet...

~Norsk Troll

68 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:39:38am

re: #57 savage_nation

Here's the full episode of the Case of the Urinal Deuce if you get time to peep it.

69 opnion  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:40:05am

Well lets see the no linkage statement about the RoP took place the day after the bust. Hmmm.
I am sure it was an exhaustive overnight investigation, "excuse me Adel Mohammad, are your flaffels & green tea acceptable?"
'No infidel. Flaffels are being better in Lebanon. Not touched by kafir hands."
"Well we are sorry about that. I do have a question if you don't mind."
''Quickly pig, I must be go to mosque for to discuss peaceful things"
"I quite understand. Can you tell me are the pipe bombs that we found in your procession, related to any cause such as say Islam?"
'No is related to Islam kafir pig.I are now offended at your Islamophobia.
you are needing sensitivity training or beheading"
"Ah then splendid.I will dispel any unwarranted suspicions at tomorrow's press conference. Oh and sorry about the flaffels."

70 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:40:35am

re: #65 savage_nation

if i left it out wouldn't that be a tomato and Vodka?

/ewww

71 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:40:54am
72 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:41:13am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

re: #40 Dianna

It doesn't make sense, he had no dealings with them but the weren't chosen at random. I'm stumped.

Hey guy - you're lucky you didn't receive one of those nice letters, or you might really be - stumped. And blind.

73 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:42:01am

.

“There is absolutely no pattern as far as any religion, ideology or nationality,” Warr said.

I'm glad.


What a "religion" could have to do with bombs, anyway ?
No religion could.

;-)

74 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:42:52am
75 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:43:10am

re: #73 Poitiers-Lepanto

An anti-religion might...

76 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:43:36am

re: #58 blutonazi98

re: #51 savage_nation


re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!


Islam is NOT A RACE!

/how ya doing? :D


just pointing that out shows how much of a bigot you are

/great! its my birthday today, college football is on TV and i am mixing my first Bloody Mary!

Looks like trollmeat is back on the menu.

77 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:44:29am

re: #76 BeerForMyHorses

faux one.

78 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:45:05am

re: #77 Roger

Damn. I'm hungry.

79 FQ Kafir  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:45:33am

re: #74 savage_nation

Bloody Mary's are a breeze if you use a tasty mix like Zing Zang.

80 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:45:52am

re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

No, I didn't start yelling muslim. I started typing muslim. Yelling muslim is akin to yelling fire in a crowded theater.

81 Thanos  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:46:47am

There's also an interesting case here, not sure if it's related since Arnaout is not uncommon name in Lebanon and Syria. Note the prosecutor btw.

82 Infidelsalwayswin  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:47:02am

re: #2 MandyManners

What's a "landed immigrant"?

Every year millions of would-be emigres stuff themselves into man-sized cannons and fire themselves over vast swathes of ocean and land to improve their lot. A 'landed immigrant' is one who remembers to pack a parachute.

83 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:47:05am
84 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:47:11am

re: #77 Roger

85 CrimsonFisted  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:47:15am

Would it really hurt these people to admit that there is a problem with the jihadists?

86 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:47:38am
87 jcm  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:48:31am
88 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:49:26am

re: #84 blutonazi98

re: #77 Roger

oops to many bloodies already!

89 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:50:14am

re: #85 CrimsonFisted

Would it really hurt these people to admit that there is a problem with the jihadists?

Yes. The followers of the prophet for profit seem to have a high degree of denialbility built into them. You point something out that one of them has done (usually evil and destructive) and they deny it ever happened.

90 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:50:48am

re: #87 jcm

True.

91 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:51:10am

Possibilities:

He was just expressing his Lebanese cultural roots

Suspect is a contract killer for hire

He is Hezbollah terrorist

He is an al Waeda terrorist

He bought a bunch of stuff and it kind of just mixed itself together and fell into preaddressed envelopes and Canada post so shook the envelopes they became letter bombs

He is Canadian neo-con who wanted to terrify Canadians into adapting more rigorous anti-terror policies and laws

He is on a spiritual journey and is one the rare people whose souls are so difficult to reach that he needs the explosive force of ripping a human being to shreds to advance his spirituality

He could just be a Sudden Jihad Syndrome guy who decided that Canada's opposition to Iranian nuclear weapons and participating in Afghan peacekeeping required he immediately assemble some letter bombs and send them to taxpaying people who fund his welfare check

He was in the Minneapolis airport and was upset that Senator Craig chose to signal the other stall instead of his

He's doing adult responsibility research for Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton


Any questions? Contact Dudley Doright of the RCMP because he has as much a clue about this as most Canadians.

92 opnion  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:51:45am

re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

I hope that this is an attempt at irony and not serious.
If a guys name is Beldore of the outer galaxy, oh I don't know maybe an exraterristial.
Tell me that your comment is irony, please

93 NoSubmission  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:52:29am

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Within hours, police were scouring the bungalow at 176 Ashdale Ave., which neighbours said was sometimes home to up to 30 people at a time and was called the 'Bombay Bunker' because of its double steel doors.

Oh, that's just great. Please tell me this guy hasn't bailed out of jail yet.

94 Roger  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:52:44am

re: #85 CrimsonFisted

It would hurt allah who is a fickle bitch to be married to. Scares 'em shitless.

95 Dianna  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:53:02am

re: #85 CrimsonFisted

Evidently.

At least, they seem to think so. Me? Not so much.

96 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:54:34am

I was listening to the news yesterday morning and afternoon. When the deputy police chief started saying that there was no political or ideological connection to the explosives, I was just waiting for the name of the suspect.

Sure enough it was a Muslim name. No one of the targeted victims lived in an area that is highly populated with Jewish people.

Nope no reason for the targets. No connection at all.

One final thing. Yesterday the police were still talking about suspicious packages in the mail.

97 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:55:56am

re: #92 opnion

no! its my birthday i don't have to do anything.

/can i change my nic to FauxTroll?

98 beldar67  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:57:55am

Re: #2

"A landed immigrant is a person who has been granted the right to live in Canada permanently by immigration authorities."

Landed immigrants pay taxes etc.. are fully legal and may be fulfilling their residency requirements for citizenship. In contrast to people who are here on work visas or tourists or are residing in Canada illegally.

99 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:58:19am

re: #92 opnion

See #77
Identified as faux troll.

100 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:58:28am

NoNow one of the targeted victims lived in an area that is highly populated with Jewish people.
Pimf

101 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:00:29am

re: #97 blutonazi98

re: #92 opnion

no! its my birthday i don't have to do anything.

/can i change my nic to FauxTroll?

Happy B-Day.

My idiot brother is marrying his trollbitch today. Play a dirge for me someone.

102 infidel4ever  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:02:46am

re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!

How many Christians/Jews/Hindu's/Bhuddists are called Mohamed?

1) Islam is NOT a race.
2) According to the Koran, Hadith and Sunnah all non-muslims should convert, become dhimmi's or be killed. How bigoted is that?

103 beldar67  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:03:05am

re: #98 beldar67

Further:

From [Link: www.canadalaws.com...]

LANDED IMMIGRANT STATUS:

Permanent residents of Canada, called Landed Immigrants, have many of the rights of Canadian citizens except that a permanent resident may not leave Canada for more than six months in any twelve month period. A permanent resident may also not be involved in any serious criminal offence. If either event occurs, the permanent resident will be stripped of his/ her status.

104 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:04:24am

re: #102 infidel4ever

It's a faux troll celebrating its birthday.

105 blutonazi98  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:05:27am

re: #101 BeerForMyHorses

i take it back, i want to change my nic to trollbitch.


/and i am sorry to hear about the wedding? any chance your bro will change her for the better?

106 Render  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:07:26am

Location, location, location...

The SC pipe bombers were caught near enough to NWS Charleston/Goose Creek to make any further questions about their intentions rather moot.

===

Lifted from Wiki, but accurate enough...

"The Weapons Station has expanded its mission and DoD support role with over 40 tenant commands, and today is a training center, with the Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Nuclear Power Training Unit, Propulsion Facility, and Border Patrol satellite academy; East Coast Consolidated Brig; Mobile Mine Assembly Unit; Explosive Ordnance Detachments; Reserve Centers; an engineering complex, with the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center and nearby Southern Division, Naval Facilities Engineering Command; 100+ above-ground ammunition magazines, maintenance and storage of military ordnance including mines, and as the Army logistics hub, the busiest CONUS surface port in the defense transportation system. In addition, NWS Charleston contains more than 1,800 on-base houses for enlisted and officer dependents, as well as elementary and middle public schools."

Those above ground ammunition magazines can hold upwards of 60 Million pounds of explosives. The East Coast Consolidated Brig houses overflow from Gitmo.

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About the Leb mailbomber in Toronto...

WTH is wrong with the RCMP? Does the RCMP have no intel sharing with Canadian military intelligence?

Canadian troops in Afghanistan have been kicking some serious Talib ass for a while now.

The Talib/Al-Q made very public statements that they intended to cause the Canadian troops high enough casualties that the Canadian public would demand the withdrawal of their men from Afghanistan. But it didn't work out that way and the Talib have lost thousands of gunmen in the process of failing.

Attacks on Canada proper would then follow in a "natural" progression, for Al-Q. This is a long established pattern for Al-Q and it's allies.

NOTHING NEW
UNDER THE SUN,
R

107 infidel4ever  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:08:12am
re: #102 infidel4ever

It's a faux troll celebrating its birthday.

Grrrrrrr! And I fell for it?

Fine. Happy birthday! :))

108 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:09:50am

As I mentioned yesterday, the gas station where they found the 'suspect' is in a Muslim area and about a block from a mosque. It is totally NOT in the same neighborhood where the ROP member lives.

109 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:11:19am

That hits close to home.

110 PeaceBeUponHim  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:13:33am

More ace reporting from the same paper: LGF: Toronto Star: Hard to Find a Common Denominator

111 abu_garcia  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:14:38am

re: #105 blutonazi98

any chance your bro will change her for the better?

Marriages fail when women think men will change, and they don't; and Men think women won't change, and they do. - Wise words from Fred Reed. If she "changes" it will not likely be for the better.

112 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:18:03am

re: #105 blutonazi98

No, she is just steadily changing him for the worse.

113 DrMack  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:18:43am

If he was a Buddhist with a bomb that would be a pattern.

114 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:18:49am

re: #107 infidel4ever

I, too, was looking for some fresh trollmeat.

115 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:21:17am

re: #110 PeaceBeUponHim

Who reads the Red Star these days? I only read their funny pages. Maybe their comment and editorials for another laugh.

116 dust my broom  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:21:41am
117 caliredst8r  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:26:46am

Viva Multiculturalism! Whoo Hoo! Ain't we progressive, open minded, and tolerant! Look at me!

Place my head on this block of wood? Sure! What's the sword for, my brother? Whaaat? *swish* *thunk*

118 Llanite  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:27:40am

re: #98 beldar67

Re: #2

"A landed immigrant is a person who has been granted the right to live in Canada permanently by immigration authorities."

Landed immigrants pay taxes etc.. are fully legal and may be fulfilling their residency requirements for citizenship. In contrast to people who are here on work visas or tourists or are residing in Canada illegally.

heh, with Guv. 'Bush Junior' Perry in charge we don't bother with any of these steps in Texas:


Perry said he supports a system that would temporarily legalize foreign workers... Such a system, Perry said, would allow for a "free flow of individuals between these countries who want to work, who want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico."

from: [Link: www.chron.com...]

119 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:28:50am

re: #115 BlueCanuck

re: #110 PeaceBeUponHim

Who reads the Red Star these days? I only read their funny pages. Maybe their comment and editorials for another laugh.

They always claim the highest circulation in the GTA.
Their system? They pile up stacks of the paper, and drop them off all over town. They also have a monopoly in a lot of Toronto area schools. They're always trying to hand them out at malls too.

It's a liberal rag, and If I have a lighter and get to close to a copy- Well, I'm tempted that's for sure.

120 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:31:25am

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: (Sound familiar to any particular global phenom.?)

Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements);
Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion;
Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions);
Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (Narcissistic Supply);
Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favourable priority treatment;
Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends;
Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others;
Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of his or her frustration. Suffers from persecutory (paranoid) delusions as he or she believes that they feel the same about him or her and are likely to act similarly;
Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.

121 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:35:14am

re: #119 Logan

re: #115 BlueCanuck

re: #110 PeaceBeUponHim

Who reads the Red Star these days? I only read their funny pages. Maybe their comment and editorials for another laugh.

They always claim the highest circulation in the GTA.
Their system? They pile up stacks of the paper, and drop them off all over town. They also have a monopoly in a lot of Toronto area schools. They're always trying to hand them out at malls too.

It's a liberal rag, and If I have a lighter and get to close to a copy- Well, I'm tempted that's for sure.


Considering they are been given out at every Mickey D's during the breakfast rush. It's not hard to have a large circulation.

For the best news I read the Sun, and the National Post. Great right wing rags.

122 6pat6  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:36:03am

Unused fireworks from the Canada day celebrations?

Must be. Can't be anything sinister involved....unless the guy is a redneck, then...

123 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:42:10am

re: #121 BlueCanuck

re: #119 Logan

re: #115 BlueCanuck

re: #110 PeaceBeUponHimWho reads the Red Star these days? I only read their funny pages. Maybe their comment and editorials for another laugh.

They always claim the highest circulation in the GTA.
Their system? They pile up stacks of the paper, and drop them off all over town. They also have a monopoly in a lot of Toronto area schools. They're always trying to hand them out at malls too.It's a liberal rag, and If I have a lighter and get to close to a copy- Well, I'm tempted that's for sure.


Considering they are been given out at every Mickey D's during the breakfast rush. It's not hard to have a large circulation.

For the best news I read the Sun, and the National Post. Great right wing rags.

The sun is awesome!
Any editorial by Salim Mansur. An amazing writer.
And if you can find Steyn in any major publications.
Coyne is good from time to time, and Coren has his moments.

124 xrayon  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:42:55am

Is there a Canadian version of CAIR, or is the Toronto police force doing such a fine job on its own?

125 Johnny Canuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:43:26am

re: #58 blutonazi98

re: #51 savage_nation


re: #48 blutonazi98

just because his name is Adel Mohamed Arnaout every one starts yelling Muslim

shows how bigoted and racist all of you on this blog are!


Islam is NOT A RACE!

/how ya doing? :D


just pointing that out shows how much of a bigot you are

/great! its my birthday today, college football is on TV and i am mixing my first Bloody Mary!

pointing out the obvious does not make one "Racist", it makes one aware about the reality of what a certain religious group is up to in this country. And that it must be brought into the open, and countered.

126 Leftfoot Leeds  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:43:27am

A step with no place, long suffering mediocrity
Salvation, a land-mines grace
Flinging tears into the vacuum
Where for affection, my weakness vies
And anywhere Hope would rather be
Than in the arms of death

127 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:46:17am

re: #124 xrayon

Is there a Canadian version of CAIR, or is the Toronto police force doing such a fine job on its own?

Yes there is, it's called CAIR - Canada. But they aren't needed in the Greater Toronto area. The police are brow beaten byt the majority of the leftist wing nuts on the police services board and in city hall.

128 opnion  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:47:28am

re: #97 blutonazi98

re: #92 opnion

no! its my birthday i don't have to do anything.

/can i change my nic to FauxTroll?

Well, Happy Birthday!

129 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:47:44am

re: #125 Johnny Canuck

I'm not an islamo-phobe. I'm an exploda-phobe. I don't wanna die.

130 opnion  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:49:23am

re: #99 BeerForMyHorses

re: #92 opnion

See #77
Identified as faux troll.

I really have to get better at recognizing irony

131 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:50:01am

Re: #124 xrayon

We have, not only CAIR-Canada, but the full catastrophe of other Muslim organizations tied to global associations. Some are also specific to Canada. Frankly we don't have a large enough intelligence operation to begin to watch these openly Islamist enablers. Canadians are asleep and will turn vicious if you try to wake them. While outwardly peaceful and civil, there is a clear tyranny of the left living in a dream that everyone is as nice as they are.

132 xrayon  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:52:39am

re: #131 yenta-fada

Re: #124 xrayon

We have, not only CAIR-Canada, but the full catastrophe of other Muslim organizations tied to global associations. Some are also specific to Canada. Frankly we don't have a large enough intelligence operation to begin to watch these openly Islamist enablers. Canadians are asleep and will turn vicious if you try to wake them. While outwardly peaceful and civil, there is a clear tyranny of the left living in a dream that everyone is as nice as they are.

At least Harper seems a little more on the ball when it comes to these issues.

133 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 9:58:15am

Re #132 xrayon

What can you do when an entire country thinks that the phrase "right wing" is an obscenity rather than a political stance? Same goes for "Conservative" Add Quebec, which has its own agenda (and LOVES Hezbollah), and you have a situation that will rapidly deteriorate during the coming economic downturn. My opinion, of course.

134 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:02:40am

re: #133 yenta-fada

Re #132 xrayon

What can you do when an entire country thinks that the phrase "right wing" is an obscenity rather than a political stance? Same goes for "Conservative" Add Quebec, which has its own agenda (and LOVES Hezbollah), and you have a situation that will rapidly deteriorate during the coming economic downturn. My opinion, of course.

An entire country? I disagree.
If I were only exposed to CNN, Michael Moore and the New York Times, I too could be tempted to think that the "entire country" are left wing, terrorist apologist, rabid socialists.

There are a large number of rational, conservative, pro-American Canadians.

135 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:03:35am

re: #134 Logan

re: #133 yenta-fada

Re #132 xrayon

What can you do when an entire country thinks that the phrase "right wing" is an obscenity rather than a political stance? Same goes for "Conservative" Add Quebec, which has its own agenda (and LOVES Hezbollah), and you have a situation that will rapidly deteriorate during the coming economic downturn. My opinion, of course.

An entire country? I disagree.
If I were only exposed to CNN, Michael Moore and the New York Times, I too could be tempted to think that the "entire country" are left wing, terrorist apologist, rabid socialists.

There are a large number of rational, conservative, pro-American Canadians.

That is to say, if I were only exposed to those individuals, newspapers, movies and media I could be tempted to think that all (or most) AMERICANS thought that way.
Just wanted to make that clear.

136 xrayon  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:14:00am

re: #135 Logan

Well clearly there are some sane Canadians out there... myself included I would like to think. What's disturbing to me is the fact that even other seemingly sane Canadians don't see the threat of radical Islam... they don't see how it relates to them and they just don't care. As for the less sane, like the lady who was out last summer with a board reading "We are all Hezbollah today" - I hope we can offer them a one way ticket to Lebanon's south where they will undoubtedly see and experience first hand that well known Hezbollah hospitality.

137 OpenTheDoor  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:32:54am

re: #4 Fast Eddie

Inspector Clouseau would be proud.

Yep, that was good.

138 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:37:42am

re: #136 xrayon

re: #135 Logan

Well clearly there are some sane Canadians out there... myself included I would like to think. What's disturbing to me is the fact that even other seemingly sane Canadians don't see the threat of radical Islam... they don't see how it relates to them and they just don't care. As for the less sane, like the lady who was out last summer with a board reading "We are all Hezbollah today" - I hope we can offer them a one way ticket to Lebanon's south where they will undoubtedly see and experience first hand that well known Hezbollah hospitality.

Agreed.
There is a very dangerous relationship between the socialist/communist left and the islamists throughout North America. You'd think that the pro-gay rights, feminist crowd would be aghast at the policies and ideology of groups like Hezbollah, but it seems to take a backside to their number one priority: Hating America, Israel, Christianity, Capitalism and the West.

139 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:38:49am

Re: #134 logan

"There are a large number of rational, conservative, pro-American Canadians."

I'm glad to hear it. I've only met a few. What is their native habitat?
They certain don't, for the most part, work in the Canadian media. Everyone I know gets most of their information from newspapers. While I'm at it, as a Jewish person, I can only gasp at the attitudes of many mainstream Jews in Toronto. I understand that they are liberal, since they tend towards socially progressive policies. However they appear blinded by political correctness and act in opposition to their own self-interest.

140 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:42:45am

re: #126 Leftfoot Leeds

A step with no place, long suffering mediocrity
Salvation, a land-mines grace
Flinging tears into the vacuum
Where for affection, my weakness vies
And anywhere Hope would rather be
Than in the arms of death

This is not a poetry slam website.

141 ladycatnip  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:44:01am

#120 yenta-fada

Great info on narcissism. The reason we as a country have such a hard time telling the truth about narcissistic islam is our own culture is full of liberal narcissists, sparking a mutual attraction between the two - both using the other to their own ends.

142 keelie  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:46:38am

Three out of three ain't bad... except when you're wrong on all three counts.

As a citizen of Toronto, I nominate Warr for a "three strikes and you're out" retirement package.

143 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:50:05am

re: #139 yenta-fada

Re: #134 logan

"There are a large number of rational, conservative, pro-American Canadians."

I'm glad to hear it. I've only met a few. What is their native habitat?
They certain don't, for the most part, work in the Canadian media. Everyone I know gets most of their information from newspapers. While I'm at it, as a Jewish person, I can only gasp at the attitudes of many mainstream Jews in Toronto. I understand that they are liberal, since they tend towards socially progressive policies. However they appear blinded by political correctness and act in opposition to their own self-interest.

Well, their native habitat is mainly rural areas, and particularly out West. Toronto is the epicenter for the islamist/leftist convergence in Canada. They are very underrepresented in the mainstream Canadian media but they do exist; Check out the editorial page of the Toronto Sun, and look into (for example) the writings of distinguished University of Western Ontario Professor Salim Mansur. There's also the maverick Mark Steyn, and the great publication "the Western Standard" which steadfastly published the Muhammad cartoons. Michael Coren is a media figure who frequently gets it right concerning islamic terrorism and the Israel/Palestinian conflict.

144 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:51:28am

re: #139 yenta-fada

I would hope, as a Jew, you've surely come to recognize that a lot of the more prominent Jews in the media in Canada and the U.S., are actually in fact secular Jews.

145 SDC  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 10:55:41am

"Landed immigrant" is the Canadian equivalent of "alien with a Green card". As far as the police officer's "no pattern is seen" statement goes, I think they're talking about a pattern in the VICTIMS; of the three people that have been the targets of these letter bombs, one is Arabic, and the other two aren't.

146 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:01:46am

re#141 ladycatnip

"The reason we as a country have such a hard time telling the truth about narcissistic islam is our own culture is full of liberal narcissists, sparking a mutual attraction between the two - both using the other to their own ends."

Wow! Interesting observation. I hadn't thought of that. Certainly the culture of entitlement fits. You could even make a case for psychotherapy being a way to blame your parents for your problems. That being said, the justification of violence and hatred for non-believers belongs only to Islam. Self-serving boomers don't kill people so they can have fun in the afterlife. Islam is really "special".

147 yenta-fada  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:06:54am

#144 logan

As a Jew married to a Lutheran, I am a secular Jew. I can't see why religion or the absence of it should be a factor in the loss of common sense when we are clearly at war with Islam.

148 jdow-antijihad  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:18:50am

Charles - headline difficulty here.

I am sitting here about 3 miles North of the Ontario border. Think
about this a little. To many Californians Ontario is the home of ONT, an international airport (run by the same people who run LAX.) It's a city somewhat east of Pomona and 40 or 50 miles East of LA.

To many other people I could be sitting in the place I called home in my teenage years where I was indeed about 2 or 3 miles due North
of Ontario Canada. (I could look both East and West of North from my bedroom window and see Ontario Canada.

It might be best to specify which Ontario you mean.

{^_-} (I wonder how many people NOT from the area where I was born and raised can guess which major US city I came from.)

149 ladycatnip  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:23:13am

#146 yenta-fada

That being said, the justification of violence and hatred for non-believers belongs only to Islam. Self-serving boomers don't kill people so they can have fun in the afterlife. Islam is really "special".

Absolutely agree with you. The radical left is not far behind, though. It started in the mid-90's during a tv interview when Alec Baldwin called for Henry Hyde's family to be dragged out into the street and shot - said he was only joking of course. Now it's common to read leftist blogs wishing death on conservatives, Christians, Jews, etc., or hear of idiot entertainers speaking violent things they'd like to see happen to conservatives - Sean Penn was vicious and perverted in things he said he'd like to do to Ann Coulter.

Clearly there is a disconnect with rational thinking with these people.

150 insanity police  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:25:46am

Still waiting for the "P" in ROP.

151 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:42:36am

re: #147 yenta-fada

It's a factor when people start to wonder why so many Jews aren't more supportive of Israel, or why they are sympathetic to islamic causes which are so clearly and inherently antisemitic.

Being a secular Jew by definition does not mean you fit this category, but it does describe a lot of the more prominent Jews, especially those in the media.

152 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:43:39am

re: #148 jdow-antijihad

Perhaps the fact that Ontario recently changed it's designation from ONT to ON can help with this distinction?

153 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:53:06am

re: #134 Logan

I cannot even remember how much time we have spent in what is now the GTA over more than 2 decades, and I honestly have never had a problem, even with Bush 2000 and 2004 bumper stickers..we got a thumbs up from others on the QEW, and the 401. No one ever said a word re the pin on my coat and my husband's, either, and no dirty looks

I was actually surprised by the coverage in the Star..who gave the perp's full name...Adel Mohamed Arnaout .

There is an embedded video.

I hope that this serves as a wake-up call...but it seems that 9/11 still has people here in denial. Too bad LGF is not compulsory reading.

154 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:57:16am

re: #148 jdow-antijihad

Since Pearson is YYZ, I would have to guess So.Cal.

155 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 12:01:27pm

re: #153 NY Nana

I'm glad your experience has been a pleasant one.
University Campuses have been notoriously hostile post 9/11, Concordia being the most reprehensible. (I can provide a link to the event in question, if you want, but it's extremely infuriating).

156 JohnRC  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 12:04:58pm

I don't know if someone has already answered this about "landed immigrant". Living in Western New York I understood it to be whereas if someone was able to make it to Canada they could claim landed immigrant status. Kind of like refugees washing a shore. Even though the ones I met would call for a taxi at one of the border crossing bridges and take a taxi across. So much for washing a shore.

157 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 12:25:17pm

re: #155 Logan

I am heartbroken, as we can no longer go. I am disabled now, but we would go up once or twice a year, and just wished that the time didn't pass so fast. One son went to U of T/UC.

In restaurants we used? We would be welcomed back. We stayed in an apartment hotel with a full kitchen, downtown, and went to the Sobeys in Thornhill.

Concordia in my mind=Jew hate of the highest level.

When my son went to U of T (1980's) I do not recall it being quite so OTT, as an L6 bastion, but the same is happening here, to a frightening degree. My cousin's husband is a Rabbi in Ottawa, and their kids all went to York.

In my experience, the GTA has one of the more cohesive Jewish communities..there is just no equivalent to Sobeys and a number of the Loblaws, and the Real Canadian Superstore, and even the Costco in Downsview in the enormous kosher sections...Sobeys is like going to Disneyland for me.

The community seems to have grown tremendously over the years, as well as the number of Synagogues, and the number of languages we heard was an education. Tragically, both the US and Canada prevented Jews from Europe entering when the horrors of the Holocaust became known...so many lives could have been saved.

Canada is our ally, and I honestly do not think we should take it for granted.

And as a Bostonian by birth? I still can't make up my mind who has the worst drivers, Boston or Toronto! :)

158 Logan  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 12:49:19pm

re: #157 NY Nana

I know who has the worst drivers- Quebec!
I know they weren't an option, by holy crap they're bad.

159 johnny 100 pesos  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 1:21:34pm

Before you jump on all Toronto cops for what the deputy chief said, I'm under the impression that he is a PR type, or a politico type. I'm sure he's under instructions not to say anything that will alarm Muslims or the community, just as I'm sure the actual cops investigating probably have a more realistic view of things.

Reminds me of the rush to the mosque every politician did after 9/11.

After the arrest of 14 potential terrorists last year, and now this, well, I think the actual cops are doing a pretty good job (which reflects a realistic view, no matter what their spokesman says). Think about it: how many more muslims are living in major US cities...how many of them are likely to be terrorists...and how many actual arrests have the PD's of those cities made?

160 Johnny 100 Pesos  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 1:45:52pm

re: #148 jdow-antijihad

Charles - headline difficulty here.

I am sitting here about 3 miles North of the Ontario border. Think
about this a little. To many Californians Ontario is the home of ONT, an international airport (run by the same people who run LAX.) It's a city somewhat east of Pomona and 40 or 50 miles East of LA.

To many other people I could be sitting in the place I called home in my teenage years where I was indeed about 2 or 3 miles due North
of Ontario Canada. (I could look both East and West of North from my bedroom window and see Ontario Canada.

It might be best to specify which Ontario you mean.

{^_-} (I wonder how many people NOT from the area where I was born and raised can guess which major US city I came from.)

I really don't think that many people (even those from California) immediately thought of the town of Ontario somewhere in California, when they read the headline.

Here in Ontario (the big one containing millions of people), there is a small city called London. I have never heard of any confusion between London Ontario Canada and London England, since London UK is always called just London, and London Ontario called London Ontario (should we start calling it London Ontario Canada to avoid confusion with London Ontario California?).

There are about half a dozen specks on the map across the US called Toronto. If the headline read Toronto, do you think that people would be wondering if it meant Toronto Wisconsin?

161 jdow-antijihad  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 1:48:56pm

re: #152 Logan

re: #154 NY Nana

(After a chow call.)

Hm, I haven't flown out of ONT in a couple years. That's about where I live now. So it's stil ONT to me, Ontario International Airport in Ontario, California. I grew up looking south on Canada. The bearing from my home to avoid going over Canada before hitting something other than the country I grew up in was about 245 degrees give or take a little - WSW. And Canada was visible to a bearing of about 160 degrees.

There are three or four parts of the US that can look true South and see Canada. Of those one is a modest enclave that includes a famous honeymoon site. The other is the metropolitan area of a major US city that I escaped from decades ago.

Pause here and guess......
                  

Look at Dearbornistan on the map. Go East. Where is the closest approach to Canada from there? The airport designator appears to be CYQG these days.

{^_-}

162 cookielady  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 3:23:31pm

So, he was just a diverse person engaged in various activities?

163 winston06  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 3:32:31pm

Canuckistan

164 shanec99  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 3:59:14pm

Could it be that those explosives were to manufacture fireworks so that he could come across the border to celebrate Labor Day with his American neighbors?

Seems like the neighborly thing to do.

165 EE  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 7:53:10pm

If the local police insist that there cannot possibly any connection to jihad, then they certainly are not going to be looking for one, and they certainly are not going to find one.

Aren't the local police even a little bit curious if this was a Hizballah man? Especially since intelligence sources keep insisting that there are lots of Hizballah cells all around the world, gearing up to carry out terrorism at the signal from their patron state, Iran.

How can a jihaditerrorist Hizballah cell be broken and outted if there isn't anybody interested in doing it? Somebody beyond the local police needs to get involved in this, if there is to be any possibility that a jihaditerrorist Hizballah cell is going to be smashed.

166 winston06  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 8:57:17pm

Toronto, Ontario, is full of ugly looking terrorists and islamists... I hate it here!

167 manorrd  Sat, Sep 1, 2007 11:50:36pm

"Convicted Hamas militant released from Israeli jail and returns to Windsor Ontario."

[Link: www.canada.com...]

BUT...he says he was innocent! Apparently, the confession that they gave him to sign was in Hebrew. Not knowing Hebrew, he signed the paper, only to be told later that he was confessing to plotting murder.

Imagine!

Those Israelis are crafty buggers!

168 J.S.  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:11:48am

re: #103 beldar67

Nobody living in Canada believes that landed immigrants (these are the very people who in a short period of time can be granted citizenship) are going to get kicked out due to criminal offenses. Fat chance. The numbers of immigrants (that's of the "landed" or "fully recognized," "approved of," types -- not those on visitor's visas, etc.) who commit crimes and still get citizenship are far too numerous to count. Consider Ahmed Ressam...break-ins, thefts, etc. No problem. The system here is thoroughly pathetic.

169 J.S.  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:21:04am

And if you really know how to work the system. ..you do the following: say you're born in Syria. You get to Canada, wait out the 3 years to obtain "citizenship" (or marry a local), retain your Syrian citizenship, consort with known terrorists, get picked up by CSIS (that's the Canadian equivalent of the CIA), get shipped back to your country of birth (that's Syria), then claim "I vas tortured! Tortured I tell you!" Then get millions in taxpyaers money (that in the double digits millions -- 11 or 12 or so), and have the dumb infidels pay you the jizyah. Now that's Canada.

170 J.S.  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:53:33am

Might also add that the term "landed immigrant" is no longer officially used. it was replaced by the term "permanent resident" (that's the "official" designation -- "permanent resident".) Long ago the term "landed immigrant" was used...but it's been replaced. (Ahmed Ressam, btw, was an illegal immigrant -- and Canadians were unable to get him out of the country, -- Ressam even had Canadian passports under fictitious names -- so how much worse is it to get permanent residents out of Canada...) Permanent residents are "virtual citiznes" of Canada -- the only thing they can't do is vote in Federal elections, run for office or hold certain Federal jobs (in the civil service).

171 Earl  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 3:38:20pm

I know Tony Warr. He is a hard, intelligent cop. I don't care what PC bollocks "Chief" Bill Blair has him spouting for MSM digestion- Warr knows damn' well what Mohammed Arnaout is all about.

Unfortunately, #170 JS is correct- what with the Canadian Charter of Criminals' Rights, Arnaout is here for at least a decade, even if not convicted and incarcerated- but if Harper is still PM then, he'll be sent back to Shi*tholeistan on his release (assuming that Canuckistan can get guarantees from his birth country that he will not be tortured/executed/have panties put on his head upon his return).


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