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State Department Perfidy on Display in HLF Trial

Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 8:17:06 am PDT

After retiring from the State Department, former US diplomat Edward Abington took a job as chief lobbyist for the PLO that paid $750,000 a year.

And that investment by terrorists continues to pay dividends; yesterday he testified on behalf of the Hamas-linked Holy Land Foundation: Former Ambassador Defends HLF.

A former U.S. diplomat spoke in glowing terms Tuesday about the Palestinian charities supported by the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF). Edward Abington, a former counsel general at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, was the first defense witness in the terror-support trial of the Richardson Tex.-based foundation and five of its former officers.

Prosecutors spent the past six weeks detailing links between the Palestinian charities, known as zakat committees, and HAMAS, a designated foreign terrorist organization. While much of the money went to humanitarian relief, anything that went to benefit HAMAS violated U.S. law, the government contends.

Jurors heard a much different account from Abington. For example, he described the Al Ghazi hospital in Jenin as “clean” and contrasted that with the Israeli military hospital where he found conditions “abysmal.”

The hospital has been linked to HAMAS. In June 2002, Israeli security forces arrested Mustafa Amjad, a doctor at the Al Ghazi hospital, who had been recruited by HAMAS to smuggle suicide bombers from Jenin into Israel.

To Abington, HAMAS is a “radical fundamentalist” group, but not Islamist. He described an Islamist as a “pious Muslim” who follows the five pillars of Islam, including charitable giving (zakat) and undertaking the Hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca.

Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

He accused Israel of using documents seized during Operation Defensive Shield, a military offensive launched by Israel in response to terrorist attacks in April 2002, as propaganda material “to undermine the reputation of the Palestinian Authority.” Documents from that military operation have been presented as evidence by Israeli security officials who testified anonymously.

During cross examination, prosecutor Barry Jonas noted that Abington earned $750,000 a year during seven years as the chief lobbyist for the PLO, which led the Palestinian Authority, after leaving the State Department. Prior to resigning from the government in 1999, Abington negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat.

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1 big L  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:19:03am

Oh no! that is awful...400 mill for 'arafish' and defending these
suspects...

2 Peacekeeper  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:19:19am

ouig3eqr'herw;gvhbrdgvo-i

3 Peacekeeper  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:19:55am

That was me pounding the keyboard in fury.

4 Jack D. Ripper  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:20:08am

This is considered the 'taqqya and kitman' phase of the trial.

5 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:20:27am

Traitor. Time to get rid of the folks in the State Department. They've forgotten the country they should be representing.

6 we1  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:20:46am

You don't have to swing the knife......to get blood on your hands.

7 earth56  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:21:15am

This guy would sell his own mother on E-Bay to make a profit

8 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:21:17am

Rat soup eating mother[deleted]

9 insanity police  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:22:17am
A former U.S. diplomat spoke in glowing terms Tuesday about the Palestinian charities supported by the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF).

WTF. LIAR.

10 earth56  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:23:08am

re: #5 Perplexed

Traitor. Time to get rid of the folks in the State Department. They've forgotten the country they should be representing.

I would deal with Louie The Lip before trusting the State Department

11 stanlef  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:23:21am

Any guess as to the ambassador's party affiliation

/its a horse....its a mule....

12 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:24:12am

I guess the PLO paid better than al Qaeda. Or maybe he moonlights for them on the side, too.

[spit]

13 earth56  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:24:38am

re: #11 stanlef

Any guess as to the ambassador's party affiliation

/its a horse....its a mule....

more like a Jackass

14 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:15am

re: #5 Perplexed

Traitor. Time to get rid of the folks in the State Department. They've forgotten the country they should be representing.


AMEN!
A former lefty friend's father works for the State Dept. He travels to all the embassies assessing them. He is a big time LEFTY Hack.

15 LoneSome Journey  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:17am

I woudl imagine much of the "shiny" image that abington is painting under examination will TARNISH greatly when it is shown that his income from the plo was $750K. In addition, the prosecutors will ask him how much of a "agenda" he has when it comes to the plo and other such organzations. That $750K should have bought a huge amount.

16 GreenDroll  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:18am

Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....

17 zmdavid  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:20am

This thread's cliche is "Money Talks".

18 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:29am

He defines hamas as non-islamic.
He defines all muslims as ''islamists!''
Well, all but the ''Jack-muslims.''
Can he redefine all the terms agreed upon in the trial?
How is the judge (and/or the jury) taking this?

19 Strike Hornet  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:25:55am

$750,000 a year? No bias here...
/

20 NoSubmission  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:26:05am
To Abington, HAMAS is a “radical fundamentalist” group, but not Islamist. He described an Islamist as a “pious Muslim” who follows the five pillars of Islam, including charitable giving (zakat) and undertaking the Hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca.


Apparently he didn't get coz's word of the day:

Pious = Leftover Fireworks

21 Swamp Rabbit  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:26:16am

I'm shocked,, Shocked I tells' ya'

/

22 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:26:35am

Did this lowlife serve under any administrations outside of Der Schliekmeister?

23 vxbush  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:26:41am

Hey, some folks would sell out the US for $250,000 a year. Look at some of the folks in congress.

24 ladycatnip  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:26:56am

Wonder how many other former State Department officials are on the dole.

25 BabbaZee  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:27:51am

no suprise.
MFers.

label: State Department

BBL

26 Grondy  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:27:57am

re: #5 Perplexed

Traitor. Time to get rid of the folks in the State Department. They've forgotten the country they should be representing.

Well said.

27 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:28:04am

greed is ugly.

28 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:28:56am
After retiring from the State Department, former US diplomat Edward Abington took a job as a lobbyist for the PLO that paid $750,000 a year.

My eyeballs just popped out of their sockets. (It was a bitch putting them back in.)

29 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:28:58am

750 grand a year I wonder how much of that is made up of foreign AID paid out of the pockets of US taxpayers? That is hillarious we are now paying US citizens to turn into spokesmen for terrorist organizations.

30 easy  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:29:12am

Money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, can buy you love.

31 Carridine  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:29:28am

"...and when the invaders had wiped out all the defenders who were only beaten because one of their own BETRAYED them for gold, the invaders heated the gold until liquid, then poured it down the treasonous turncoat's throat, thereby 'paying' him his gold, after telling him THEY could never trust him since he had betrayed his own!"

/wish I had a link... but this comes to mind here, treasonous HAMAS scum-apologist and weasel mouthpiece!

32 ShyGuy  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:29:37am

Hey, for $750,000 I would sell my own mother-in-law.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go to the back of the line around the block and wait for my turn to be interviewed.

33 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:30:18am
Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

34 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:31:03am

First thought to my mind - "Stone the unfaithful monkey!"

35 Grok the Fullness  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:31:22am

No doubt a Clinton hack!
8 years of Clinton bullshit was wayyyyyyyy more than enough.
How long will it take to clean up? About as long as it will take to clean up this terrorism mess.......an entire generation at the least.

36 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:31:31am
Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year?

I would've taken the money from the PLO and then ratted the bastards out to the Israelis for free.

37 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:31:56am

May he get turned into a dog and then put into the care of Micheal Vick.

38 Earth56  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:32:17am

re: #33 MandyManners

Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.


Nah... He gets all is intell from the Blue Helmet Guy in Reuters Central

39 bj  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:32:46am

abington is a first class idiot of the worst kind .. he 'worked' a deal with arafart for $400 mil? What a sleezebag.

40 dentate  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:33:07am

re: #31 Carridine

Heard that one about Hulegu, the grandson of Chinggis Khan, on capturing the last Caliph of Baghdad; would be a nice historical irony if true.

41 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:33:22am

This guy probably edits entries on Wikipedia.

42 Carridine  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:33:51am
"Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

No 'duh!', Abington! When YOU think HAMAS is a fraternal club of huggy-bears and candy-sharing scouts, then Shin Bet info detailing their murderous, rapacious and cowardly attacks would seem 'unreliable' and designed to 'influence US thinking', wouldn't it?

43 zmdavid  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:33:56am

I suspect the man was a traitor while in the State Department, he just jumped at the opportunity to get paid more by the PLO instead. Any idea what he did as counsel general at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem?

44 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:34:26am

re: #9 insanity police

A former U.S. diplomat spoke in glowing terms Tuesday about the Palestinian charities supported by the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF).

WTF. LIARTRAITOR.

That's a bit closer to the truth, IMO. How the hell do we allow people to "lobby" for the PLO? Which one of MY elected reps has ever spoken to this scum?

OldLineTexan

45 cosmo  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:34:36am

re: #2 Peacekeeper

Excuse me, I speak Keyboard Pound. What Peacekeeper was trying to say was:

"WTF-OMG-STFU Abington!"

Hope I got the emPHAsis on the right syLLAble.

46 Earth56  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:35:31am

re: #39 bj

abington is a first class idiot of the worst kind .. he 'worked' a deal with arafart for $400 mil? What a sleezebag.

shame on you !

Did you not realize that Ara-matter-of-fat was a Nobel Peace Prize recipiant ! I also won a fuzzy red moose at the carnival last year.

47 Carridine  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:35:44am

re: #40 dentate

re: #31 Carridine

Heard that one about Hulegu, the grandson of Chinggis Khan, on capturing the last Caliph of Baghdad; would be a nice historical irony if true.

Thank you, Dentate... I thought it referred to a Scottish clan feud, but maybe we're BOTH right!

/and yeah, some real irony there, if true!

48 zmdavid  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:35:52am

re: #43 zmdavid
Besides the $400 mil for Arafat (as if that's not enough)

49 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:36:12am

The Nazis were a 1930's political party that opposed zionism.

50 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:36:24am

And if elected I promise to abolish the Dept of Education and to fire every State Dept employee and start over.
/they can build the border fence/wall

51 El matamoros  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:36:43am

I've actually seen a lot of this. a lot of "talking heads" on TV DEFENDING ISLAM and terrorists and they always got the bona fides of "paid consultant for the CIA" or "worked for the state deparment" or "former president of the united states" or some such title.

52 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:37:44am

OT
Examples of two presidents:
Bush

Clinton

53 insanity police  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:37:48am

re: #44 OldLineTexan

re: #9 insanity police


A former U.S. diplomat spoke in glowing terms Tuesday about the Palestinian charities supported by the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF).

WTF. LIARTRAITOR.

That's a bit closer to the truth, IMO. How the hell do we allow people to "lobby" for the PLO? Which one of MY elected reps has ever spoken to this scum?

OldLineTexan

I agree.

54 opnion  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:38:14am

This guy does not see any synonymous relationship between pious & fundamentalist in Islam. If I am missing something semantically I hope that someone points it out.
He sounds like a soulless human being. His party affiliation is beyond speculation.
Pointing out that he is on the payroll helps to impeach him as a witness.

55 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:38:34am
During cross examination, prosecutor Barry Jonas noted that Abington earned $750,000 a year during seven years as the chief lobbyist for the PLO, which led the Palestinian Authority, after leaving the State Department. Prior to resigning from the government in 1999, Abington negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat.

Busted.

56 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:39:22am

re: #38 Earth56

Speaking of Reuters, they've been here three times today.

Hey, Reuters! Still feeling down over getting dumped by the mean and nasty CNN?

*cackles*

57 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:40:10am

From the PLO's wiki entry:
The PLO was considered "the richest of all terrorist organizations" with $8-$10 billion in assets and an annual income of $1.5-$2 billion from "donations, extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, etc.", according to a 1993 National Criminal Intelligence Service report. The Daily Telegraph reported in 1999 that the PLO had $50 billion in secret investments around the world including Zimbabwe and Somalia. [5]

They forgot to mention paying former US officials 750,000.

Oh hey look here is another

In 2004 the United States Congress declared the PLO to be a terrorist organisation under the Anti-Terrorism Act 1987, citing among others the Achille Lauro attack.[16][17]

58 jill e  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:40:11am

30 pieces of silver comes to mind.

59 opinionated  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:40:46am

Jerusalem is Arab. Notwithstanding Congressional resolutions. Not withstanding George Bush's lie to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.

How do I know Jerusalem is Arab. The US State Dept tells me so. This is where Edward Abington worked.

This is a link to the home page of the

U.S. Consulate General- Jerusalem

[Link: jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

I challenge you to find even a mention of Israel on the home page.

60 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:41:59am

re: #37 SecretInternetDoucheBag

May he get turned into a dog and then put into the care of Micheal Vick.

Has anybody else been emailed the Pshopped picture of a giant German shepherd humping Vick? I knew somebody would make one of those. The caption? "Every dog has his day".

61 1SG(ret)  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:42:08am

This SOB is an example of why the State Department as a group should be purged right down to Condi Rice. The crap that keeps coming out of there is enough to make the average citizen wonder which side they are on. That's if the average citizen knew anything about whats happening in the world. Which they don't. Damn, just how we have survived as a nation still amazes me!

Top

62 turn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:42:21am

" Prior to resigning from the government in 1999, Abington negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat."

Perhaps Arafish arranged an exchange of body fluids as payback to Abington ... just thinking

63 AG in Houston  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:43:04am

Obviously the Jews aren't doing a very good job of influencing, are they Mr. Moneybags?

64 FriarsTale  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:43:10am

hey, who wouldn't betray the world for 5 million bucks?

65 looking closely  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:44:07am

And which of Arafat's Secret Swiss Bank Accounts did that $750 large come from each year, I wonder?

Nice to see the Palestinian financial aid went to so worthy a cause!

66 FriarsTale  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:45:38am

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

here's a song for Michael Vick

a ripoff of the Guys and Dolls song Fugue for Tinhorns (I got the Horse Right Here...)

[Link: cruxy.com...]
I call mine "Fugue for Dog Ear"

67 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:45:39am

J_A_G,

And if elected I promise to abolish the Dept of Education and to fire every State Dept employee and start over.
/they can build the border fence/wall

Oy yeah? Well if I'm elected I promise to force every State Department employee to send their children to Israeli schools currently being targeted by Qassam rockets!

68 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:45:42am

re: #58 jill e

30 pieces of silver comes to mind.

Yeah, and he should now follow the example set by Judas.

69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:46:00am

Its sad that we live in a world where when you hear the term "State Dept Official", the first thing that spring to mind is a lying traitorous POS.

70 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:46:20am

re: #16 GreenDroll

Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....

You have to have a soul in order to sell it.

71 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:46:22am

re: #33 MandyManners

Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

He prolly has an autographed copy of Walt and Mearsheimer's book.

72 looking closely  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:47:05am

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

re: #37 SecretInternetDoucheBag


May he get turned into a dog and then put into the care of Micheal Vick.

Has anybody else been emailed the Pshopped picture of a giant German shepherd humping Vick? I knew somebody would make one of those. The caption? "Every dog has his day".

Some entrepeneurs are doing brisk business in "My dog hates Michael Vick" T-shirts, complete with urinating dog images.

And there are plenty of other good designs.

73 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:47:10am

re: #57 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Secret Internet Douche Bag? Great moniker. Paging Johnny rivers.

74 zmdavid  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:47:22am

They should up his salary. At $750,000 a year, it will take him 533.33 years to get the $400,000,000 he steered to them.

75 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:47:31am

re: #58 jill e

30 pieces of silver comes to mind.

Yes. 750,000 pieces of silver.

76 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:15am

re: #57 SecretInternetDoucheBag

From the PLO's wiki entry:
The PLO was considered "the richest of all terrorist organizations" with $8-$10 billion in assets and an annual income of $1.5-$2 billion from "donations, extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, etc.", according to a 1993 National Criminal Intelligence Service report. The Daily Telegraph reported in 1999 that the PLO had $50 billion in secret investments around the world including Zimbabwe and Somalia. [5]

They forgot to mention paying former US officials 750,000.

Oh hey look here is another

In 2004 the United States Congress declared the PLO to be a terrorist organisation under the Anti-Terrorism Act 1987, citing among others the Achille Lauro attack.[16][17]

OK, it took the Feds until 2004. From the below quote, I get "after leaving the State Department", " seven years as the chief lobbyist for the PLO", and "resigning from the government in 1999".

Using my public school education, I get 1999 plus seven years = 2006. Subtracting 2004 from 2006, I get two years. Can anyone enlighten me as to how someone can be a paid lobbyist for a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION for two years? Where am I mistaken? Why isn't this guy being investigated? Everyone else is being investigated, down to the lowest pervert. Why not this (apparent) lobbyist for a terrorist organization?

During cross examination, prosecutor Barry Jonas noted that Abington earned $750,000 a year during seven years as the chief lobbyist for the PLO, which led the Palestinian Authority, after leaving the State Department. Prior to resigning from the government in 1999, Abington negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat.

OldLineTexan

77 cookielady  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:18am

re: #50 Just_A_Grunt

And if elected I promise to abolish the Dept of Education and to fire every State Dept employee and start over.
/they can build the border fence/wall

You are now my write-in candidate. Just-A-Grunt for Prez!

78 ORD neighbor  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:18am

Talk about your old "conflict of interest"... Or just plain "bought and paid for". But considering the fact that a superpower's vital policies are being sold, I am surprised how little it cost. Again, considering what is being bought. Major mis-pricing right there. If we are going to be bought and sold, it should be at a fair price, not some below-fair-value deal. And it should be visible to all.

79 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:22am
and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

As opposed to the Arabs, who simply try to share with us the Great Enlightened Truth from an utterly objective viewpoint.

80 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:27am

Maybe he should have got paid more than 750 grand to defend people that say things like this? I mean selling your soul has to count for something.

Whoever thinks of stopping the uprising before it achieves its goals, I will give him ten bullets in the chest." --Yasser Arafat, Chairman of the PLO

"We know only one word: Jihad, Jihad, Jihad. When we stopped the intifada, we did not stop the jihad for the establishment of a Palestinian state whose capital is Jerusalem. And now we are entering the phase of the great jihad prior to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state whose capital is Jerusalem...We are in a conflict with the Zionist movement and the Balfour Declaration and all imperialist activities." --Yasser Arafat, Chairman of the PLO (During an October 21,1996 speech at the Dehaishe refugee camp)

81 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:48:49am

re: #44 OldLineTexan

re: #9 insanity police

A former U.S. diplomat spoke in glowing terms Tuesday about the Palestinian charities supported by the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF).

WTF. LIARTRAITOR.
That's a bit closer to the truth, IMO. How the hell do we allow people to "lobby" for the PLO? Which one of MY elected reps has ever spoken to this scum?

OldLineTexan

Excellent... excellent point.

82 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:05am

Jew hating, murder abating scum sucking jihadi-loving dickwad.

83 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:10am

re: #73 Endangered in MASS

re: #57 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Secret Internet Douche Bag? Great moniker. Paging Johnny rivers.

"They've given you a number, and taken 'way your name"

(which leads next to The Prisoner)

84 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:13am

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

re: #33 MandyManners


Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

He prolly has an autographed copy of Walt and Mearsheimer's book.

And, an autographed photograph of the three of them.

85 insanity police  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:17am

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

re: #33 MandyManners


Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

He prolly has an autographed copy of Walt and Mearsheimer's book.

That book deserves to be flushed.

86 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:29am

I don't suppose Court TV is covering this or maybe one of those numerous talking head lawyers who can show up to argue the merits of the latest celebrity bad girl run in with the law could take a little time to give some air time to this story.
Nahhhhh!

87 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:49:58am

re: #16 GreenDroll

Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....

Not even close. I'd like to think my soul isn't for sale at any price, but I can guarantee it isn't for that amount.

88 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:50:24am

re: #86 Just_A_Grunt

I don't suppose Court TV is covering this or maybe one of those numerous talking head lawyers who can show up to argue the merits of the latest celebrity bad girl run in with the law could take a little time to give some air time to this story.
Nahhhhh!

They're prolly on some trailer park murder case.

89 humanity  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:51:50am

Today is 35 anniversary of München Olympic massacre.... the day when 2nd time Olympic games were misused .... once it was done by Nazis, and later done by Pali pigs ...

90 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:51:56am

I've never been one to post things on here that would even get me close to being deleted. I don't think. What I'm thinking, yeah, definitely {deleted}.

91 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:52:19am

OldLineTexan

He defended for 2 years people that commit acts like this:

The hijackers had been surprised by a crew member and acted prematurely. Holding the passengers and crew hostage, they directed the vessel to sail to Tartus, Syria, and demanded the release of 50 Palestinians then in Israeli prisons. When refused permission to dock at Tartus, the hijackers shot one wheelchair-bound passenger – an American named Leon Klinghoffer – because he was Jewish, and threw his body overboard. The ship headed back towards Port Said, and after two days of negotiations the hijackers agreed to abandon the liner for safe conduct and were flown towards Tunisia aboard an Egyptian commercial airliner.

92 cosmo  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:52:34am

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

...and has wallpapered his bathroom with Rosie O'Donnell's mug.

94 ratherdashing  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:53:34am

I'd take the $750k and live off $100k. The rest goes to Charles, Internet Haganah, zombie, Robert Spencer, CAIR Watch.... just to name a few

95 cosmo  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:53:52am

re: #87 bikermailman

I'd take $750K to remove this moron's microphone.

96 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:54:01am
97 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:54:10am

re: #82 WriterMom

Jew hating, murder abating scum sucking jihadi-loving dickwad.

Seconds your motion.

/hey

98 Idle Drifter  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:54:47am

re: #91 SecretInternetDoucheBag

OldLineTexan

He defended for 2 years people that commit acts like this:

The hijackers had been surprised by a crew member and acted prematurely. Holding the passengers and crew hostage, they directed the vessel to sail to Tartus, Syria, and demanded the release of 50 Palestinians then in Israeli prisons. When refused permission to dock at Tartus, the hijackers shot one wheelchair-bound passenger – an American named Leon Klinghoffer – because he was Jewish, and threw his body overboard. The ship headed back towards Port Said, and after two days of negotiations the hijackers agreed to abandon the liner for safe conduct and were flown towards Tunisia aboard an Egyptian commercial airliner.

I bet they were surprised when a couple F-14s pulled along side and said they're going to land in Italy.

99 grumpy_old_soldier  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:55:00am

Money talks and...well...money talks. A quisling by any definition!

100 cookielady  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:55:04am

We all know about the Saudi Parachute provided to many of our former government officials. Perhaps it should be renamed the Islamic Big Tent, as it has extended to various terrorist groups and every department and level of our government.

These people make me gag. I could really put $750k a year to good use, but I would rather live on the street with my kids than take it from these filthy beessterrrss. (close as I get to cursing)

101 bunker buster  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:55:29am

Why that [self-deleted] scum-sucking [self-deleted] treasonous [self-deleted] piece of [self-deleted] sellout!

Foggy Bottom needs an enema, STAT!

102 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:55:33am

Oh yeah this guy worked for the PLF too. I wonder if he got paid 750 thousand dollars?

Abu Abbas left the jurisdiction of Italy and was convicted in absentia. In 1996, he made an apology for the hijacking and murder, and advocated peace talks between Palestinians and Israel; the apology was rejected by the U.S. government and Klinghoffer's family, who insisted he be brought to justice. Abbas was captured in Iraq in 2003 by the U.S. military during its 2003 invasion of Iraq. He died in U.S. custody March 8, 2004.

103 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:55:37am

re: #87 bikermailman

re: #16 GreenDroll

Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....
Not even close. I'd like to think my soul isn't for sale at any price, but I can guarantee it isn't for that amount.

I suppose it depends on what you sell your soul for?

104 bunker buster  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:57:03am

re: #103 Ginn

re: #87 bikermailman


re: #16 GreenDroll
Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....
Not even close. I'd like to think my soul isn't for sale at any price, but I can guarantee it isn't for that amount.

I suppose it depends on what you sell your soul for?

I wouldn't sell it, but I might put it up as collateral.

105 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:57:29am

re: #85 insanity police

re: #71 Ward Cleaver


re: #33 MandyManners

Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

He prolly has an autographed copy of Walt and Mearsheimer's book.

That book deserves to be flushed.

Zombie rules!

106 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:57:39am

re: #104 bunker buster

re: #103 Ginn

re: #87 bikermailman

re: #16 GreenDroll
Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....
Not even close. I'd like to think my soul isn't for sale at any price, but I can guarantee it isn't for that amount.

I suppose it depends on what you sell your soul for?
I wouldn't sell it, but I might put it up as collateral.

(laughing)

107 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:57:47am
108 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:57:53am

re: #29 SecretInternetDoucheBag

750 grand a year I wonder how much of that is made up of foreign AID paid out of the pockets of US taxpayers? That is hillarious we are now paying US citizens to turn into spokesmen for terrorist organizations.

C'mon....all of it! What do the Palis actually produce? (I know, terror, but I'm talking in economic terms here) Their only means of survival is aid handouts from the rest of the world. Without that, the electricity stops, the food stops, the, ahem, shiite stops, or flows freely anyway, the whole entire 'country' j u s t s t o p s. They have no other means of paying anyone anything.

109 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:58:18am

The defense lawyers were pretty damn stupid, IMHO, to put this guy on the stand. Once the $750k in payments was revealed on cross, the jurors probably had a "WTF?" moment.

110 bulwrk  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:58:41am

re: #96 Perplexed


For welfare fraud no less.

111 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:58:54am
112 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:59:15am

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people like Abington are worse than Hamas. Hamas is simply an enemy in the old-fashioned sense. We deal with external enemies by killing them with great vigor.

Abington is a traitor who like all modern American traitors takes advantage of the fact that traitors are not persecuted in the US these days except in the most extreme cases. And even then they tend to get let off the hook (Lynne Stewart).

113 g3n3r1c  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:59:33am

re: #59 opinionated

Jerusalem is Arab. Notwithstanding Congressional resolutions. Not withstanding George Bush's lie to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.

How do I know Jerusalem is Arab. The US State Dept tells me so. This is where Edward Abington worked.

This is a link to the home page of the

U.S. Consulate General- Jerusalem

[Link: jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

I challenge you to find even a mention of Israel on the home page.

Results 1 - 10 of about 70 for israel. Search took 0.29 seconds.

114 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:59:56am
Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....

Lisa: Bart, Pablo Neruda says "the eyes are the window to the soul."

Bart: I am familiar with the works of Pablo Neruda.

115 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:00:03am

The "Quiet" American. How sweet.

116 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:01:13am

OT: And so it begins.

Experimental oysters escape from cages


I, for one, welcome our new mollusk overlords.


(hat tip: Jonah Goldberg, NRO The Corner)

117 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:01:55am

re: #109 Ward Cleaver

The defense lawyers were pretty damn stupid, IMHO, to put this guy on the stand. Once the $750k in payments was revealed on cross, the jurors probably had a "WTF?" moment.

I hope so, but you never know.

Don't tell them, but HLF should've put their offices and activities in Austin, just to make sure the jury pool was as safe as possible. Troofers, stoners, displaced Kalifornistanis, etc.

OldLineTexan

118 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:02:54am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Sterile oysters, so you know they'll be pissed off...

119 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:03:02am

re: #107 WriterMom

Ghost Writer for Arafish?

From your link:

Dr. Aaron Lerner recently noted that Ha'aretz Correspondent Amir Oren reported in his weekly column in today's Hebrew edition of Ha'aretz that Edward Abington, who was the United States consul general in Jerusalem until 1997 and is now Arafat's top paid lobbyist in Washington, drafted Yasser Arafat's op-ed piece that appeared in last Sunday's New York Times along with "one of the Israeli 'guardians of Oslo'". Arafat's PR aide Saeb Erekat put the finishing touches on the article.

Questions remains:

Will anyone confront the NYT with their misprepresentation of Arafat.

Will anyone ever challenge the fact that Abington receives a 2.5 million dollar retainer from Arafat, following his service as the US consul in Jerusalem, during which time he concluded hundreds of contracts between the US and the PA.

Very cool find, Writer Mom

120 ratherdashing  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:03:07am

re: #115 WriterMom

good find.

121 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:03:48am

re: #52 newsjunkie_ky

OT
Examples of two presidents:
Bush

Clinton

Good compare/contrast. I'd seen the headline on the first, figured what it was about. I was pretty close. The second, a nice trip down memory lane. In the comments, some of them got it as well, re: Bush meeting privately with families.

122 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:04:37am

re: #118 Pro-Bush Canuck

They are sterile-not eunichs. Let the oysters LIVE A LITTLE FERCRYINGOUTLOUD.

123 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:05:20am
124 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:05:24am

re: #119 Ginn

You know what? Maybe with his connections at the New York Times, he was the American local PR agent for Hamas?

125 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:05:36am

re: #59 opinionated

Jerusalem is Arab. Notwithstanding Congressional resolutions. Not withstanding George Bush's lie to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.

How do I know Jerusalem is Arab. The US State Dept tells me so. This is where Edward Abington worked.

This is a link to the home page of the

U.S. Consulate General- Jerusalem

[Link: jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

I challenge you to find even a mention of Israel on the home page.

Gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

126 rab3  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:06:51am

re: #36 Dirk Diggler

Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year?

I would've taken the money from the PLO and then ratted the bastards out to the Israelis for free.

I pretty sure that taking money from the PLO might count as selling your soul.

127 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:08:02am

re: #120 ratherdashing

10Q

128 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:08:04am

re: #105 MandyManners

Como estas? Did you ever catch up to Xane and kick it's ass?

I had an apporiate you tube link ( EIM can now linkm to You-tube)

129 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:08:05am

re: #122 WriterMom

re: #118 Pro-Bush Canuck

They are sterile-not eunichs. Let the oysters LIVE A LITTLE FERCRYINGOUTLOUD.

Swinger oysters?

130 g3n3r1c  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:08:17am

re: #96 Perplexed

re: #93 bulwrk

Muslim woman sues sheriff
Suit claims deputies violated her religious rights by taking head covering.

She wasn't in public when she was in jail.

Khatib, a U.S. citizen who emigrated from Lebanon, along with her husband, Amro Khatib, 32, pleaded guilty in Orange County Superior Court in June 2006 to a misdemeanor violation of welfare fraud.

131 Ginn  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:09:32am

re: #124 WriterMom

re: #119 Ginn

You know what? Maybe with his connections at the New York Times, he was the American local PR agent for Hamas?

It's looking that way. I have a feeling there may more than this POS.

I think the fact that Abington ghostwrote a piece for Arafat that the NYTimes published... How I wish we could call the Times down on the carpet for this.

Evidently what Abington did isn't illegal. Immoral, unethical, yes. Illegal no.

Is Hamas a terrorist org or not? I talking about our government. Have they designated Hamas as a terrorist org? Is so, then why isn't this man at least thrown out of the country?

132 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:10:45am

re: #129 Occasional Reader

"Swoysters"?

133 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:11:23am

I must take a break from seething over Whores of the Caliphate and oyster sex talk. Going for a run.

134 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:11:54am

re: #101 bunker buster

Why that [self-deleted] scum-sucking [self-deleted] treasonous [self-deleted] piece of [self-deleted] sellout!

Foggy Bottom needs an enema, STAT!

It's things like this, and many others, that make me think that FB needs a gallows. Let the generals, and other well-qualified individuals do the negotiating. Perfectly serious here.

135 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:12:30am

DOS
Department
of
Surrender

The left decided to undermine the country from the inside decades ago. They are light termites and should be treated as such.

136 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:12:55am

Charles,

Here's the Dallas Morning News take if you're interested:

Ex-diplomat testifies about Holy Land funding

Seems our pious Muslims may not be so pious after all...

137 looking closely  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:13:00am

re: #108 bikermailman

re: #29 SecretInternetDoucheBag


750 grand a year I wonder how much of that is made up of foreign AID paid out of the pockets of US taxpayers? That is hillarious we are now paying US citizens to turn into spokesmen for terrorist organizations.

C'mon....all of it! What do the Palis actually produce? (I know, terror, but I'm talking in economic terms here) Their only means of survival is aid handouts from the rest of the world. Without that, the electricity stops, the food stops, the, ahem, shiite stops, or flows freely anyway, the whole entire 'country' j u s t s t o p s. They have no other means of paying anyone anything.

The general leftist mindset to these sort of things is that the threat isn't "real" until an actual bomb goes off. Its the worst kind of "no harm, no foul" mentality.

Any attempt to prevent these sorts of events via surveillance (eg checking library book records, monitoring phone call patterns, etc) is intrusive gov't fascism.

Of course once a bomb *does* go off, then its our fault for "provoking" the terrorists because of our foreign policy.

How many German (and hell, American) moonbats are going to blame this incident on the USA?

138 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:13:22am

re: #135 Hard Right

DOS
Department
of
Surrender

The left decided to undermine the country from the inside decades ago. They are like termites and should be treated as such.

Fixed

139 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:14:22am

re: #113 g3n3r1c

re: #59 opinionated

Jerusalem is Arab. Notwithstanding Congressional resolutions. Not withstanding George Bush's lie to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.

How do I know Jerusalem is Arab. The US State Dept tells me so. This is where Edward Abington worked.

This is a link to the home page of the

U.S. Consulate General- Jerusalem

[Link: jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

I challenge you to find even a mention of Israel on the home page.

Results 1 - 10 of about 70 for israel. Search took 0.29 seconds.

I don't know what you searched, but even the word Israel does not appear on the home page. Palestinian appears 8 times. Every mention refers to a Palestinian program.

For those who might excuse this, thinking their "clientele is Arab"- the location of the Consulate in on Agron Road in "Jewish" "West" Jerusalem.

140 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:14:28am

re: #103 Ginn

re: #87 bikermailman


re: #16 GreenDroll
Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year? Hmmnn.....
Not even close. I'd like to think my soul isn't for sale at any price, but I can guarantee it isn't for that amount.

I suppose it depends on what you sell your soul for?

Again, I don't think it's for sale at any price. It's one of those things like reacting in a crisis, killing someone, etc. I am pretty sure of how I'd react, but you just never know until you actually face the matter.

141 looking closely  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:14:49am

re: #126 rab3

re: #36 Dirk Diggler


Would I sell my soul for 750,000 a year?

I would've taken the money from the PLO and then ratted the bastards out to the Israelis for free.

I pretty sure that taking money from the PLO might count as selling your soul.

I'd characterize taking money from the PLO as a moral obligation, if you can do it. The more, the better.

Advocating for the PLO, on the other hand, that's selling your soul.

142 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:16:25am

re: #105 MandyManners

re: #85 insanity police


re: #71 Ward Cleaver

re: #33 MandyManners

Abington also testified that he found information from Shin Bet and other Israeli intelligence agencies to be unreliable and believed the Israelis have an “agenda” to “influence US thinking.”

I wonder if he's a closet Troofer.

He prolly has an autographed copy of Walt and Mearsheimer's book.

That book deserves to be flushed.

Zombie rules!

Zombie is a true treasure. All that sheheit does, and won't even take a tip.

143 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:16:56am

re: #136 goodbye_natalie

Charles,

Here's the Dallas Morning News take if you're interested:

Ex-diplomat testifies about Holy Land funding

Seems our pious Muslims may not be so pious after all...

Thanks for that link; I hadn't looked athe DMN yet.

Mr. Abington quit advising the Palestinian Authority about the time Hamas won a majority of seats in parliamentary elections last year. He said he opposes Hamas, whose members he called "radical fundamentalists."

He was so chummy with Fatah that had Hamas grabbed him up, they probably would've killed him.

144 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:17:07am

re: #139 Opinionated

By the way, read Arabic, here is your page:

[Link: arabic.jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

Read Hebrew, in Jerusalem, Israel? Screw you, no Hebrew page for you.

145 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:17:53am

re: #109 Ward Cleaver

The defense lawyers were pretty damn stupid, IMHO, to put this guy on the stand. Once the $750k in payments was revealed on cross, the jurors probably had a "WTF?" moment.

Did defense even know about him being in their pocket? Sometimes they don't do their research and get blindsided.

146 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:18:43am

People, we are letting men like Edward Abington sell us down the river. He's not just selling out Israel - he's selling out our future generations of kids. I'm open to suggestion as to how to deal with the Army of Judas we face but it seems high time we move from blogging to a more direct approach. Charles does his part. What do we do?

Any of you public gurus got any suggestions how we can magnify men like this whore for the general populace?

147 g3n3r1c  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:18:59am

re: #139 Opinionated

re: #113 g3n3r1c

re: #59 opinionated

Jerusalem is Arab. Notwithstanding Congressional resolutions. Not withstanding George Bush's lie to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.How do I know Jerusalem is Arab. The US State Dept tells me so. This is where Edward Abington worked.

This is a link to the home page of the

U.S. Consulate General- Jerusalem

[Link: jerusalem.usconsulate.gov...]

I challenge you to find even a mention of Israel on the home page.

Results 1 - 10 of about 70 for israel. Search took 0.29 seconds.

I don't know what you searched, but even the word Israel does not appear on the home page. Palestinian appears 8 times. Every mention refers to a Palestinian program.

For those who might excuse this, thinking their "clientele is Arab"- the location of the Consulate in on Agron Road in "Jewish" "West" Jerusalem.

I just typed Israel in the search bar on the top right corner, but I'm not excusing it. I find it outrageous that our government keeps protecting and giving money to these animals who continue to kill innocents(even their own) and want to kill all those who don't see the same 7th century mindset

148 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:19:34am

re: #117 OldLineTexan

re: #109 Ward Cleaver


The defense lawyers were pretty damn stupid, IMHO, to put this guy on the stand. Once the $750k in payments was revealed on cross, the jurors probably had a "WTF?" moment.

I hope so, but you never know.

Don't tell them, but HLF should've put their offices and activities in Austin, just to make sure the jury pool was as safe as possible. Troofers, stoners, displaced Kalifornistanis, etc.

OldLineTexan

heh.

149 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:20:28am

re: #146 goodbye_natalie

Forget the general populace for the minute. Lets see this jury's verdict.

150 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:21:02am

re: #91 SecretInternetDoucheBag
An interesting book which covers this incident is "Under Fire" by Col Oliver North. The whole book is not devoted to this but it is discussed in it. About a year ago I blew the dust off the copy I had which was published in the early 90's and was just amazed by how many of the same names kept showing up.
Ollie helped put in motion the plans which captured the terrorists behind this only to let them go.

151 bikermailman  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:22:02am

re: #137 looking closely

re: #108 bikermailman


re: #29 SecretInternetDoucheBag

750 grand a year I wonder how much of that is made up of foreign AID paid out of the pockets of US taxpayers? That is hillarious we are now paying US citizens to turn into spokesmen for terrorist organizations.

C'mon....all of it! What do the Palis actually produce? (I know, terror, but I'm talking in economic terms here) Their only means of survival is aid handouts from the rest of the world. Without that, the electricity stops, the food stops, the, ahem, shiite stops, or flows freely anyway, the whole entire 'country' j u s t s t o p s. They have no other means of paying anyone anything.

The general leftist mindset to these sort of things is that the threat isn't "real" until an actual bomb goes off. Its the worst kind of "no harm, no foul" mentality.

Any attempt to prevent these sorts of events via surveillance (eg checking library book records, monitoring phone call patterns, etc) is intrusive gov't fascism.

Of course once a bomb *does* go off, then its our fault for "provoking" the terrorists because of our foreign policy.

How many German (and hell, American) moonbats are going to blame this incident on the USA?

Ummmm.....all of them? lol

152 deltafox  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:23:41am

He's nothing but a traitorous whore.

153 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:24:20am

re: #149 Opinionated

Forget the general populace for the minute. Lets see this jury's verdict.

Whether found innocent or guilty, it doesn't change that the last eight years, whores like this have been intentionally sabotaging our welfare and this won't be blip on the national news.

Not one percent of the U.S. population will be in tune to this. We could do better and we must.

154 captdiggs  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:27:23am

It would be nice to see the govrnment go after Abington for perjury after this trial is over.

155 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:29:00am

re: #146 goodbye_natalie

People, we are letting men like Edward Abington sell us down the river. He's not just selling out Israel - he's selling out our future generations of kids. I'm open to suggestion as to how to deal with the Army of Judas we face but it seems high time we move from blogging to a more direct approach. Charles does his part. What do we do?

Any of you public gurus got any suggestions how we can magnify men like this whore for the general populace?

Keep their names out front. Post a hall of shame detailing their activities. Have their names come up first on a google search for traitors.

Kong video.

156 Clio  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:30:53am

re: #147 g3n3r1c

There are two U.S. Consulates in Jerusalem.
The main one is in East Jerusalem in an all Arab neighborhood.

The second one, in a Jewish neighborhood, is only a small office that deals only with financial documents.

For Americans in Jerusalem who need citizen services such as passports, birth certificates, social security documents, absentee ballots, and so forth, they have to go to the office in the Arab neighborhood.

For a time, someone from that consulate used to come once a week to the building of the AACI (Association of Americans and Canadians in Israel) to give some services there. Then the State Department stopped that service. I do not know whether it has ever been renewed.

All documents -- passports, birth certificates, etc -- issued by US consulates and embassies are supposed to show the name of the country where they were issued. But the Jerusalem Consulate refuses to put in the word ISRAEL -- only JERUSALEM as though the city were floating in outer space.

157 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:32:10am

re: #56 MandyManners

I still think Charles should relabel that hit counter - Roto-Reuters - Easier flushes.

158 Kenneth  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:43:56am

re: #115 WriterMom

From your link,

"I've seen Arafat more than 200 times since he came back to the West Bank in 1994," Abington said, in the living room of his house, a relic of pre-Israel Palestine, as he contemplated his midafternoon lunch, some 12 hours after the Hebron accord was signed "In the State Department, we all feel that close personal contact is a very important thing in this part of the world. And I feel close to Arafat--I bring my daughter, Alex, down to Gaza sometimes to visit him and his wife, Suha, and to play with their baby. - Edward Abington

Jeebuz! I sure hope you washed your baby thoroughly after letting her play with Arafat Spawn!

159 Sunlight  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:44:34am

re: #28 MandyManners

After retiring from the State Department, former US diplomat Edward Abington took a job as a lobbyist for the PLO that paid $750,000 a year.
My eyeballs just popped out of their sockets. (It was a bitch putting them back in.)

Did he have to wait in between? We make former military and/or govt people wait some amount of time before they can work for someone that does business with their former group. Does that apply to the State Dept and their clients (e.g., PLO)?

160 Simon Jester  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:49:24am

I've got ninety thousand pounds in my pyjamas.
I've got forty thousand French francs in my fridge.
I've got lots of lovely lire.
Now the Deutschmark's getting dearer,
And my dollar bills would buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

...

There is nothing quite as wonderful as money.
There is nothing quite as beautiful as cash.
Some people say it's folly,
But I'd rather have the lolly.
With money you can make a splash.

--as recently tap danced and sung by Eddie Abington

161 mattm  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 9:58:41am

A serious clean-out of State Dept. people needs to begin. With FBI investigations too.

162 dentate  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:03:30am

re: #47 Carridine

Here's a link I found with this story...it appears that this is a legend that has attached itself to many historical conquests, which doesn't mean that it did not happen, or even happen multiple times:

163 dentate  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:09:59am

re: #162 dentate

By the way, this is part of a very interesting account of the true story of how the Mongols tried to ally themselves with the "Franks" and with the Pope to crush Islam between them. Unfortunately, the Europeans appear not to have been interested. These Mongols were actually Nestorian Christians at the time. They were finally stopped in Syria by the Mamluks, Turkic slaves from Egypt who had wrested control of that country and were familiar with Mongol fighting tactics. Sadly, the Mongol rulers of the Middle East, the Il-khans of Persia, eventually converted to Islam and faded away before the end of the 14th Century. It remains a little appreciated fact, though, that the original Caliphate was finally destroyed by the Mongols, many of them Christians, whom the Muslims called the Scourge of God.

164 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:19:32am

re: #136 goodbye_natalie

Charles,

Here's the Dallas Morning News take if you're interested:

Ex-diplomat testifies about Holy Land funding

Seems our pious Muslims may not be so pious after all...

Unbelievable. From the article, this guy was the "State Department's second-highest-ranking intelligence official".

Lets hear again how the Jewish Lobby influences policy when the highest State Dept officials are owned by Arabs.

165 AG in Houston  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:42:58am

re: #164 Opinionated

Yes, that is unbelievable. The Jewish Lobby is obviously not doing it's job very well.

166 Maine's Michael  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:47:43am

This Abington dude is way too obvious. He should take a lesson from Dubya on how to work for the Arabs while making it seem like he's taking orders from the Jews.

167 alansfmd  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:56:37am

He was real tight with Arafat back in the '90s, while counsel-general in Jerusalem.

[Link: clasnews.clas.ufl.edu...]

168 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 10:58:59am

re: #166 Maine's Michael

This Abington dude is way too obvious. He should take a lesson from Dubya on how to work for the Arabs while making it seem like he's taking orders from the Jews.

Don't worry too much about G.W. - I understand in deference to the current Israeli leadership, George has passed the baton to Ehud Olmert...

169 WriterMom  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 11:03:08am

re: #166 Maine's Michael

M.M goodbye_natalie is right. Olmert is outdoing most of Israel's worst obvious enemies.

170 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 11:09:45am
171 Hucbald  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 11:16:30am

The US Government kleptocracy has turned us into the only banana-republic that happens to be a hyper-power.

172 Onslow  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 11:27:41am

John Esposito approves.

173 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 11:27:59am

re: #170 ploome hineni

What amazes me is that they somehow thought this guy wouldn't fly the coop? Our legal system is only surpassed in incompetence by our foreign policy.

174 honzik  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:23:12pm

re: #100 cookielady

We all know about the Saudi Parachute provided to many of our former government officials.

This is so important to point out. The Saudis, from what I understand, keep track of those in the State department who are friendly to their interests. Those whom they like are routinely offered sinecures that are worth millions, provided they lobby on their behalf.

Think about it. You get your Ph.D. in political science or history, perhaps learning arabic just to cement your bona fides, work your 20 years at the State dept. to get your generous tax-payer funded pension, making sure your sympathies are known to the right people, and then cruise through the rest of your life making 500k$ a year rubbing elbows with your old pals, trying to get them to go light on Saudi Arabia or the Muslim Brotherhood or whatever.

Here's the big question: Why doesn't the MSM do an expose'? Too boring for their constituency?

175 honzik  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:24:16pm

re: #170 ploome hineni

the Clintons must be devastated

Do you think they're waiting for the other Hsu to drop?

176 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:28:24pm
177 Code Red 21  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:29:15pm

Hey Eddie you're a whore...I hope you enjoy the money.

178 rightfield  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:33:51pm

I hope someone is compiling a list of assholes like this so that when the day of righteous judgement (from the American people) comes...

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 12:49:01pm
During cross examination, prosecutor Barry Jonas noted that Abington earned $750,000 a year during seven years as the chief lobbyist for the PLO, which led the Palestinian Authority, after leaving the State Department. Prior to resigning from the government in 1999, Abington negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat.

I guess the holy land foundation couldn't find a less biased opinion to speak on behalf of their character. This is the equivalent of having your Mom go in to court to tell the jury you're a nice kid who helps around the house and visits grandma once a week.

Good job by the prosecutors to raise this very important point on this so-called witness. Hopefully the jury knows bias when they see/hear it.

180 samson  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 1:23:32pm

See:

[Link: www.truthout.org...]

Ramadan Giving Presents Dilemma for American Muslims
By William Fisher
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 05 September 2007

As the mid-September Ramadan fast approaches, many American Muslims are in a quandary about how to fulfill their Quranic obligation to contribute to charity - since the US government has closed down and frozen the assets of many of the leading philanthropies that have traditionally championed Muslim causes, for providing "material support" to terrorist organizations...

181 Perplexed  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 2:24:42pm

re: #180 samson

See:

[Link: www.truthout.org...]

Ramadan Giving Presents Dilemma for American Muslims
By William Fisher
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 05 September 2007

As the mid-September Ramadan fast approaches, many American Muslims are in a quandary about how to fulfill their Quranic obligation to contribute to charity - since the US government has closed down and frozen the assets of many of the leading philanthropies that have traditionally championed Muslim causes, for providing "material support" to terrorist organizations...

Suggest that muslims who are truly interested in peace and charities, should give their money to Charles at LGF. So us that you aren't the monsters we think your are.

182 jmeyert4a  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 4:38:41pm

State Department? Does anyone remember just a year or so ago that most of us here were ready to run Condoleezza Rice for President?


What the hell happened?

183 EE  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 5:32:12pm

Abington appears to have been supported and fully owned by the terrorists. There is always the danger that a representative of the US to a foreign country will "go native". But Abington has done far more than go native. After retiring (and maybe somewhat before retiring), Abington has joined the cause of the terrorists against his own country.

Possibly the large amount of money he received from the terrorists turned his mind.

Or possibly he was always supportive of the terrorists (before he left State he negotiated a $400 million deal between the State Department and Yasser Arafat), and figured that after retirement from the State Department he would work where his heart is -- that is, to serve the terrorists.

184 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 5:36:28pm
185 BLBfootballs  Wed, Sep 5, 2007 8:35:28pm

This is so despicable.

He accused Israel of using documents seized during Operation Defensive Shield, a military offensive launched by Israel in response to terrorist attacks in April 2002, as propaganda material “to undermine the reputation of the Palestinian Authority.”

Golly duh! Could you imagine it? Sharing intelligence documents with your allies? Whoduh thunk of a low-down dirty tactic like that?

P.S. to Abington: Whatever documents Israel recovered couldn't do much "to undermine the reputation" of a terror organization like the PA below its long-established rock bottom status. Perhaps when you work in the State Department "presentation of truth" becomes synonymous with "undermine reputation"?


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