Make sure you know your history, or before you know it, the Left will have changed it for you.

AP has a 1984 memory slot.

"Ministry of truth."

Except LGF and others have forced it to operate in reverse.

The only true worldwide conspiracy is the Islamic one.

Right to this.

Right to that.

Bloggers do battle with those who buy ink in 50 gal drums.

Keep feeding those hampsters Charles ...

This is the same process by which we get:

6 million Jews, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses and others murdered in geoncide perpetrated by Hitler's Germany."

Changed to:

The Holocaust never happened. No one died in any death camps.

It's the same progression, folks. The fact that ANYONE believes the Holocaust didn't happen 50+ years later is understandable--I've been to Dachau--it happened. But the fact that within DAYS of 9/11, people denied it was a terrorist attack and opted for the "inside job" crap is totally unacceptable.

Buon giorno a tutti.

Right straight down 'e ol' memory hole!

re: #6 cosmo

Also gypsies were murdered.

The first version has already been disseminated around the world, of course.

And, you helped give it the attention it deserved!

Filthy AP. They have no conscience and no shame.

"This is how they do it, folks. The first version has already been disseminated around the world, of course."

Well those who want the truth will make the effort to find it, and those who do not want to hear, will not listen.

But look how many come to this site.

Layers and filters.

They filter out what doesn't go over well.

Subtle change, but profound impact. Words mean things, and that the ap felt the need to revise the article at all should be alarming to lovers of Truth everywhere.

re: #6 cosmo

Let me clarify: there are some who don't know about the holocaust, and therefore don't know whether it happened or not--because of the passing of time.

The onus is on us (no pun intended) to ensure that history is accurately presented. And, in light of recent left efforts, that task is getting more and more difficult...and I'm getting more and more determined.

Take this little nugget: My first grader went to school in CA and they brought up Kwanzaa and how they were going to celebrate it. My little sweet daughter tells the teacher:

Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday, made up by a convicted felon. It's not a real holiday.

Start 'em young folks--you know the moonbats are. Don't believe me? Log onto zombietime and take a good look at the crowds...it's child abuse.

Notice they also struck the word "accused" at the end.

re: #6 cosmo

This is the same process by which we get:

6 million Jews, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses and others murdered in geoncide perpetrated by Hitler's Germany."

Changed to:

The Holocaust never happened. No one died in any death camps.

It's the same progression, folks. The fact that ANYONE believes the Holocaust didn't happen 50+ years later is understandable--I've been to Dachau--it happened. But the fact that within DAYS of 9/11, people denied it was a terrorist attack and opted for the "inside job" crap is totally unacceptable.

Its a case of feelings over facts. No one could possibly have coldly and calculatedly exterminated 6 millions Jews, thats inconceivable. They must be making it up as a guilt thing. I'm sure some of them really believe that, like they believe no one would actually hijack a airplane just so they could crash it into a building. Thats just crazy.

Facts don't lie. But then we know how the Libs feel about facts. Fire can't melt steel.

It's all the same plot by Bushitler. All six million people who are unaccounted for from Nazi Europe, plus the crew and passengers of all four airplanes from 9/11, are being held in a secret underground facility in Crawford, Texas.

re: #2 Ojoe

AP has a 1984 memory slot.

"Ministry of truth."

Except LGF and others have forced it to operate in reverse.

We haven't done that - once the original story is out there, it's out there permanently. A revised edition may eventually overtake the original, but depending on the story and penetration of the original into the marketplace, the corrected versions may not make a dent on the world stage.

AP = Ahmadinejad Pawns

Good news:

Four Pali scum iced in Gaza

Of course, most of the reports lead by saying a child was injured.

Very nuanced.

Looking for car swarm photos, but can't yet locate one.

Can anyone say "memory hole"?

It's a re-mix for the clubs.

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

...and Rosie is the oracle of truth (and ding-dongs).

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Good news:

Four Pali scum iced in Gaza

Candy and sweets for everyone. I'll be out in the streets doing the Electric Slide.

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Car swarm picture on Ynet. Might be a stock photo.

Are they covering up for AP or dinnerjacket?

re: #19 lawhawk

re: #2 Ojoe

AP has a 1984 memory slot.

"Ministry of truth."

Except LGF and others have forced it to operate in reverse.

We haven't done that - once the original story is out there, it's out there permanently. A revised edition may eventually overtake the original, but depending on the story and penetration of the original into the marketplace, the corrected versions may not make a dent on the world stage.

That's a great point!

Go to any journalism school and ask the students why they want to become journalists...the majority will say to change / influence not to report. But even if they do try to 'report' - acting as the first cut at history - the biases and reports set the stage and people will accept what they want to believe.

re: #19 lawhawk

Well we've stalled it. Before, no revision would have gone out at all.

And also, before there wouldn't have been this site here, accessible from most parts of the world, where you could see the two versions side by side.

It is at least some progress.

I believe that eventually, the common sense and goodness of most people will prevail.

The Internet will help it prevail.

—Ojoe the optimist.

The AP has the right to be morons.

People like Ahmadinejad are a perfect example of how horribly vile and inhumane an individual can be. The fact that he can deny the Holocaust is a prime example of his lies and people still accept this is disgusting.

This article has been approved by the AP.

Or, if you prefer...

/AP'd

UK official: rewrite British history to include Muslims

They see nothing wrong in rewriting history...and changing FACTS for myth. [Link: jihadwatch.org...]

Why would Nahal Toosi want to slant a story in favor of Iran?

Why would Seamus O'Malley want to slant a story in favor of the IRA?

I wonder how much of a stake the saudis own in the ap?

As always, the left fights hard to control the past.

re: #26 insanity police

re: #21 JammieWearingFool

Car swarm picture on Ynet. Might be a stock photo.

When you click to the story, you do get an archive shot. But thanks, I'll go with the one on the front page. HT and fruitcup for you.

re: #35 Black George Bush

Let us hope they do not control the future.

I'm out of here to work...

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. - Winston Churchill.

re: #15 cosmo

Take this little nugget: My first grader went to school in CA and they brought up Kwanzaa and how they were going to celebrate it. My little sweet daughter tells the teacher:

Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday, made up by a convicted felon. It's not a real holiday.

What did the teacher say?

"He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past." - 1984

On the whole "right to cast doubt" issue:

Lets dissect "the right to cast doubt on the Holocaust". The statement is, in fact, wrong. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Mr. A has a "right" to speak about the Holocaust. No real argument there (venue aside). As long as we're talking about "rights" I'll even acknowledge that he has the "right" to deny the Holocaust (because he is not in Germany). It's the "casting doubt" part that is the problem. Casting doubt implies a weight to what he says, implies that his stated beliefs have merit. I'm sorry, Mr. A, the merit of your statements (or lack thereof) is not for you to decide. You have absolutely no right to cast doubt on the Holocaust.

That article about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by Associated Press writer Nahal Toosi we pointed out yesterday, with the outrageous wording about “defending the right to cast doubt on the Holocaust,” has been quietly rewritten today: Ahmadinejad questions 9/11, Holocaust.

What, that frickin' bee writes copy now?

Typical MO from the Associated Press...

The rest of the world (and US newspapers) see this and eat it up... No one sees the changes!

re: #31 SonOfLiberty

People like Ahmadinejad are a perfect example of how horribly vile and inhumane an individual can be. The fact that he can deny the Holocaust is a prime example of his lies and people still accept this is disgusting.

This article has been approved by the AP.

Or, if you prefer...

/AP'd

Brilliant!

re: #29 Ojoe

Which version do you think will get the most play in overseas media?

The original or the revised?

meanwhile...

Iranian mortars found in central-southern Iraq

London, Sep. 26 – The Iraqi army confiscated Iranian mortars in an operation in central-southern Iraq on Tuesday, the Multi-National Corps – Iraq (MNC-I) said in a statement on Wednesday.

Scouts from the 8th Iraqi army division confiscated and destroyed the mortars along with roadside bombs which were part of a large weapons cache following an intelligence driven operation September 25 in Diwaniyah

“Iraqi forces learned that criminal elements were hiding the cache of explosively formed penetrators and mortars in a secret storage facility. The deadly weapons are responsible for many Iraqi and Coalition fatalities”, the MNC-I said.

The forces confiscated the following materials: three RPG rounds, one EFP case, three EFPs, one shape charge for an improvised explosive device, 12 81mm Iranian mortars, detonator cords, batteries, ammunition, sniper rifle parts and magazines, and a large amount of fuses, blasting caps, homemade firing devices and explosive primers, and a large amount of “terrorist propaganda”.

I have seen this done a couple of times and it is insidious. The first version is what gets all the play in newspapers and news reports around the world while the "corrected" version gets archived. The AP can therefore play to anti-american sentiment to their world wide audience and have their butts covered if anybody researches it later for bias. You would think some enterprising journalist would see a story here.

I Googled Nahal Toosi, the source of the article and came up with her name in a paper called the Iranian. Here's a cartoon from that paper.

I think you guys have it all wrong...Look, Katie Couric said she actually agreed with Ahmadinejad on one point. “Oftentimes Westerners don’t really understand fully the values of this particular culture.”

Your lack of understanding is the real problem, not his questioning of 9/11 or defense of Holocaust deniers.

re: #11 Marine Mom

Filthy AP. They have no conscience and no shame.

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It is beyond me how anyone in their right cognizant mind could EVER believe anything written or disseminated by Associated Press,after they have been OUTED for staged photos of attacks,causing childrens death, etc. and embellished stories by terror supporting , so called freelance"reporters"

re: #49 Fasternu426

Lovely. I wonder where the "University of Columbia" is. IRNA called it "Colombia." Must be connected to Hugo somehow. Some people are ignorant, some are stupid, these people are both, and malevolent to boot.

Unbelievably, Columbia Daily Spectator editorial board spins Ahmadinejad's speech as a successful hostage negotiation;

Tajbakhsh’s Freedom

What was lost in the debate surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to Columbia is one of the most important reasons for the University to celebrate. On the same day the invitation to Ahmadinejad was announced, Kian Tajbakhsh, who received his Ph.D. at Columbia, was freed from the Iranian prison that he had been held in since May. Tajbakhsh, an urban planner and adviser to the Open Society Institute, was one of several Iranian-Americans arrested in Iran in recent months—none of whom were charged with specific crimes. Iranian prisons are notoriously unjust and are often used as tools to silence political dissidents. In the absence of a proper legal system, it can take years to release a prisoner, especially one held simply for being an American citizen. While there is no direct causal link between the University’s invitation to the Iranian president and Tajbakhsh’s release, calls for his release from both President Lee Bollinger and Dean John Coatsworth kept the issue from disappearing from the public eye.

Tajbakhsh’s freedom would be reason enough for the University to celebrate. But in his introduction to the Iranian president, President Bollinger called on Ahmadinejad to allow Tajbakhsh to leave Tehran, where he is under house arrest, and offered the alumnus a position next semester as an adjunct professor in the School of Urban Planning. With the platform Bollinger had, he made Tajbakhsh’s return to the United States a national issue.

Whether or not one agrees with the political implications of inviting Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia, the event was an excellent platform to address this essential issue. The Iranian leader’s talk may not have had the global impact that Bollinger had hoped for; it may not have answered the questions people wanted answered. But [But, BUT! ] it drew international attention to the plight of Tajbakhsh and other academics who are unjustly imprisioned. If this is all Bollinger’s opening statement accomplished, then it can be considered a success.

If they're lucky, he won't be returned in the same condition as the late photo-journalist, Zahra Kazemi.

The AP re-write of the ending of "gone with the wind" finds Rhett Butler arrested for domestic violence,hate speech and abandonment.Scarlett is awarded all asset`s and Butler is found dead in an Alanta park with nothing more than an angry suicide note!

There should be an open investigation into AP, UPI, and the rest. They should be held to task for their part in putting out false information to the world, and exposed world wide for the scum they are.

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

meanwhile...

Iranian mortars found in central-southern Iraq

London, Sep. 26 – The Iraqi army confiscated Iranian mortars in an operation in central-southern Iraq on Tuesday, the Multi-National Corps – Iraq (MNC-I) said in a statement on Wednesday.

Scouts from the 8th Iraqi army division confiscated and destroyed the mortars along with roadside bombs which were part of a large weapons cache following an intelligence driven operation September 25 in Diwaniyah

“Iraqi forces learned that criminal elements were hiding the cache of explosively formed penetrators and mortars in a secret storage facility. The deadly weapons are responsible for many Iraqi and Coalition fatalities”, the MNC-I said.

The forces confiscated the following materials: three RPG rounds, one EFP case, three EFPs, one shape charge for an improvised explosive device, 12 81mm Iranian mortars, detonator cords, batteries, ammunition, sniper rifle parts and magazines, and a large amount of fuses, blasting caps, homemade firing devices and explosive primers, and a large amount of “terrorist propaganda”.

I don't undertand why we don't just pack up the whole kaboodle and drop it from a B2 at 25k ft right onto dinnerjacket's front lawn. Are we really more worried about Myanmar than Iran, George?

I watched a programme on Five (UK) last night called - Auschwitz-the Great Escape:Revealed.
It was about 2 Slovak Jews who escaped from Auschwitz in 1944 and tried to save the Hungarian Jews. In the process they also brought the situation to the attention of the west. One of them was called Rudolf Vrbe (?sp) who wrote a detailed report of what the Germans were doing there. It included film from the time. It was very interesting.

I guess Dinnerjacket missed it...

There is so much evidence from records to film taken during the war to film taken by the liberaters of the various concentration camps to the people who were there and still alive. Why is this old chestnut still swingin'?

I had a dream last night that Dinner Jacket got clipped by a Sniper who was hiding in the UN Balcony. His dinner jacket was torn to shreds and pieces of his monkey where all over that ugly UN Marble back splash.
When I awoke I realized it was only a dream, so much for wet ones! :)

re: #56 ChristianRepublic

We will neither win this war nor have safety at home if we let the enemy have whole countries as sanctuaries.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill

AP Quietly Edits Pro-Ahmadinejad Article

While news broadcasting was much different in the days leading up to the Shoah as well as the atrocities which took place therein, the news was formulated to accomplish a desired effect. Alas, little changes.

The problem then and the problem now while being different is exactly the same.
Except now we are impotent. We the strongest country on the planet can not face off with tyrants be it Iran, Syria, N. Korea, etc. We rid the world of Sadam yet we do nothing when it comes to Syria, Iran N. Korea, etc. (only toothless condemnations) As an example countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and China do not even get a mention as to having the worst human rights. For the sake of pure unmitigated appeasement Egypt suffers no consequence for all these years allowing thousands of weapons tunnels dug to bring slaughter to Jews! What happened to that famous speech when our president spoke of those who harbor terror and the consequences they might suffer because of it ? Forget it, they are now our friends. And in so doing we give up our precious rights as our lives hang in the balance.

We push Israel and pressure them to accept a holocaust denier simply to appease our enemies otherwise that would not be happening. Goodness, the president promised the day after his inauguration he would sign the embassy act. How can the world look upon Israel as legitimate when they do not poses a legitimate capital? Throw in the extreme bias, hate, divestment, the ultra left, those who claim to be friends and are not and innate prejudice from the rest of the world and this surely makes for a sad commentary. Goodness, look at the members of the US led quartet and one might wonder if what they all say and how they expect it is really true!? And the Secretary of State sent to spew SQUEW the message. I ask, what is happening here?

...which leads me to this question from another thread I was unable to post on yet I find this relevant to this discussion. How can we monitor the possible crap coming from mosques when we can not even do a decent job monitoring the borders of our country no less who is here and most important who should not be. Last time I heard we are now allowing about 100 Mexican trucking companies to come across.

Sorry for the rant but it is not just one thing but everything which makes our picture look mighty bleak. When you talk about having a lot on your plate, when it comes to the security and protection of all we hold dear, I would say we are screwed.

AP is a small player as far as I am concerned. They appease no more or no less then those we elect to office and those we claim to be our new friends.

Well, y'all know if it's anything from the Associated (with terrorists) Press, you need to be suspicious. But this is about as blatant a change in their more obvious bias that I recall seeing. Thanks Charles.
However, since we are talking about Holocaust Deniers, it's ironic and instructive that when Gen. Eisenhower visited one of the death camps (sorry, don't remember which one) Gen. Patton was with him and (this is from Eisenhower's Diaries) Ike said "Georgie, come with me to inspect those showers and gas chambers". Patton said - respectfully - that I can't do that Ike - we're still at war and I don't think it's appropriate for combat troops to see their commander puking his guts out". Ike insisted, saying "Georgie, if men like you and I don't pay witness to this, there will come a time when people will deny it ever happened."
Ya know for a President who was frequently knocked by the Dems as being not too bright, Eisenhower was sure as hell right on target with that one.

re: #9 Ojoe

Everyone with a bit of courage and a brain was a delegate for the camps.

not that the revised version is much better. it still makes holocaust deniers sound like victims

re: #59 Ojoe Ya know, this is probably the only (so far; let's see if Dems cut off funding for the war) real comparison to Vietnam. We let the NVA and the Viet Cong use Cambodia and Laos as sanctuaries (Cambodia and Laos were "officially" neutral countries) to rest, reinforce and rearm. Here we are in Iraq, with the same shit happening, although you have to substitute Iran and Syria for Laos and Cambodia.
And, oh yeah, the Soviets were providing TONS of weapons to the North Vietnamese, including SAM sites, through Haiphong Harbor which we were ordered not to bomb, lest we get into a war with the Soviet Union.
Substitute Russia for the Soviet Union and Belarus for Haiphong Harbor and it's the same shit, all over again.
Even if you "forget" about 1979 and our embassy in Tehran, and the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, what Iran is doing RIGHT NOW is cause for a war upon Iran by the US.
Shit.

re: #50 nycrighty Um, I know you're new here, but when making a sarcastic remark, even though it may seem obvious to you, the custom is to put a "/" at the end of your post.
Y'all ought to read the LGF FAQ's and Dictionary too.
Just a friendly suggestion.

The jury is instructed to disregard the last hour of testimony given by the star witness.

re: #39 MandyManners

Nothing. That response wasn't anticipated in her California Democratic Party Teachers Association Official Talking Points Curriculum.

Priceless.

re: #56 ChristianRepublic

WHY THE HELL IS THE AP IGNORING THIS? WHY? WHY? WHY?

/Doing best Nancy Kerrigan voice

re: #50 nycrighty

I doubt that there is one in a thousand on either the right or the left who would recognize the name Goldziher, who he was or what he wrote much less have read any of it. Until you understand the opposition completely, it is hard to deal with it in any effective fashion. To render these people harmless to us will require that people understand them and the history behind things. Sadly, most on all sides in the West do not. They are thinking that these are nice multi-cultural chaps who will play nice if we are nice to them. Very little could be further from the truth. These folks are a throwback to the days of tribal warfare. If they have nothing else to do they will go after each other.

re: #15 cosmo

Take this little nugget: My first grader went to school in CA and they brought up Kwanzaa and how they were going to celebrate it. My little sweet daughter tells the teacher:

Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday, made up by a convicted felon. It's not a real holiday.

I'll bet the teacher shit its pants!
My brother-in-law, who doesn't like blacks in general, calls Kwanzaa the "(N-word) Christmas"...I know it isn't a nice way to put it. He could have done better by saying something like "Afro-Socialist" or some such thing.

re: #65 realwest

The longer we wait the worse it will be.

re: #15 cosmo

re: #6 cosmo

Let me clarify: there are some who don't know about the holocaust,
and therefore don't know whether it happened or not--because of the
passing of time.

The onus is on us (no pun intended) to ensure that history is
accurately presented. And, in light of recent left efforts, that task
is getting more and more difficult...and I'm getting more and more
determined.

Take this little nugget: My first grader went to school in CA and
they brought up Kwanzaa and how they were going to celebrate it. My
little sweet daughter tells the teacher:

Kwanzaa is a made-up holiday, made up by a convicted felon. It's not a real holiday.

Start
'em young folks--you know the moonbats are. Don't believe me? Log onto
zombietime and take a good look at the crowds...it's child abuse.

Your child is a genius. I wish I could have seen that.

I have a little hope left when it comes people learning about the Holocaust. It used to be that people used to flat out deny that it happened. But the evidence is so abundant that even the worst nuts now hardly ever claim anything beyond it having been "exaggerated". I see that as a step in the right direction. Hopefully years from now, only institutionalized people will be disconnected enough to think that there was even an exaggeration.

I'm not as hopeful when it comes to 9/11 Conspiracy Theories because explaining structural mechanics to idiots is not easy. (Few things make my blood boil than Truthers)

Reminds me of when the BBC stated the right to wear a veil

Nahal Toosi's deranged profile pic at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Looks like someone went mad with photoshop's liquify tool...

I'm sorry to sink to the depths of crticising someone's looks.

Actually, she defended the right to deny the holocaust, so fuck it - I'm not sorry at all.