How about we substitute you for a real candidate?

pins puncture empty suits.

he's already leaking air.

this is purely for his own safety

Can we question his patriotism yet?

”I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest,“

Why would he wear an American Flag pin? His allegiance is to allah.

no shit Baaahhhrack Hussein?

your goats are calling

So he waited just after the worst terror attacks in history that murdered 3000 Americans to take off his flag pin.

Jeez, he just makes me sick. I thought he was an airhead, now I think he is truly dangerous.

Crawl back under your rock Obama.

Well, I won't wear a B. Hussein Obama pin.

So I guess that makes us even.

Screw that. Anyone refusing to wear an American flag, that wants to be President of AMERICA, deserves the position...disgraceful...I give Hillary 2 seconds before she is all over this...

sorry...typo...meant to say does NOT deserve the position...in my post # 13.

PIMF

Somewhere Katie Couric is smiling.

OT: Best of the Web has the scoop on Linda Quiquivix:

She is charged with the Class F felony of assault with a deadly weapon on a law enforcement officer and the Class H felony of hit-and-run involving personal injury. There is also a misdemeanor charge of resisting a public officer.

If she has no prior criminal record of any kind she would likely receive a sentence of 16 to 20 months on the assault and six to eight months on the hit-and-run. Again, assuming no prior record she would probably get intensive probation or house arrest. It sounds like she [allegedly] ran over a cop with her vehicle.

Her first court date is Oct. 12, 2007.

Speaking about (stalking) horses, I could not resist this Separated at Birth, which I suspect my fellow Lizardoids might appreciate.

after the next election, I hope he( involuntarily ) removes his Senate pin too

Oh, and Barack Obama is a tool.

re: #14 Iron Fist

re: #9 NoSubmission,

He's not a serious candidate. He's just gunning for the VP slot. I hope the Hildabeast shafts him.

She'd really have to at this point.

Simply disgraceful at this point in our history.

if he will wear one, will it be an upside down one...

Also in the report

On Thursday, his campaign issued a statement: "We all revere the flag, but Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol. It's about fighting for our veterans when they get home and speaking honestly with the American people about this disastrous war."

Nothing about supporting them while in harms way, only once they are home.

He said he would require "a period of rest and standard of readiness" before troops could be redeployed.

I suggest he leave that sort of decision making up to the Joints Chiefs of Staff. In the meantime he can watch Ken Burns documentary on WWII and see how much rest and recuperation those soldiers got.

He also called for increased mental health services, including screening and treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder. He said nearly half of the National Guard troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan suffer from psychological problems, yet little emphasis is put on treating those disorders.

And of course he plays the victim card.

Illinois coulda had Ditka.

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

He also called for increased mental health services, including screening and treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder. He said nearly half of the National Guard troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan suffer from psychological problems, yet little emphasis is put on treating those disorders.

I call BS.

I think I'll disagree with the stalking horse thing. With Hillary up 33 points, she does not need to move to the fringe to capture the primary. She's already positioning for her republican opponent.

So Barrack has to get votes from other sources. So he goes to the fringe. may as well take Kucinich's votes, he isn't using them.

Wow. The American Flag. Can you imagine this putz being the Commander in Chief? What a douchebag...

re: #19 doppelganglander

OT: Best of the Web has the scoop on Linda Quiquivix:

She is charged with the Class F felony of assault with a deadly weapon on a law enforcement officer and the Class H felony of hit-and-run involving personal injury. There is also a misdemeanor charge of resisting a public officer. If she has no prior criminal record of any kind she would likely receive a sentence of 16 to 20 months on the assault and six to eight months on the hit-and-run. Again, assuming no prior record she would probably get intensive probation or house arrest. It sounds like she [allegedly] ran over a cop with her vehicle.

Her first court date is Oct. 12, 2007.

oh man, what a b!tch! Hope the cop is okay!

re: #2 Shug

pins puncture empty suits.

he's already leaking air.

this is purely for his own safety

LOL! I'm lovin it.

Who is advising this guy? This has to be one of the stupidest things for a politician to do...however, it will appeal to the anti-american left pretty well...

Reminds me of Written in the Heart.org or something!
We don't need the Ten Commandments written on walls if it's written in the heart!/No public display!
What a P.O.S.!

I don't wear a flag pin. Until now, i just haven't made it a point to proclaim I don't wear a flag pin.

re: #17 tripster

...and masturbating...

re: #33 mad_scientist

Who is advising this guy? This has to be one of the stupidest things for a politician to do....however, it will appeal to the anti-american left pretty well...

AND, he's been doing it since 2001.

Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great

So the country isn't great now in his view?

re: #40 forrest
Isn't it obvious?
Everything American is broken!
/
Silly Forrest!

This is just sad. After 9-11, my son made flag pins out of beads and safety pins and raised over $700 for the Red Cross, $5 at a time. He was 11. I wonder what Obama would say to him about wearing one.

re: #27 ploome hineni

Linda Quiquivix

Compared to Hillary, though, Obama is rather a patriot, though,

At least he hasn't pardoned any Weathermen terrorists guilty of murder and bank robbery who were trying to overthrow the US government.
Or associates of the Columbian cocaine cartel. Or subverted our election system ( the New Square incident). Hilary is up to her neck in unpatriotic activities.

re: #41 ploome hineni

Hi ploome!

I spent a couple of days in the hospital , then I was home a couple of days, then we went to our family cabin. Home now, probably for the duration until next spring. (Our cabin isn't winterized).

re: #39 NoSubmission

re: #33 mad_scientist

Who is advising this guy? This has to be one of the stupidest things for a politician to do....however, it will appeal to the anti-american left pretty well...

AND, he's been doing it since 2001.

It is just completely depressing that someone this stupid can reach a position of responsibility and is actually taken seriously by anybody.

His excuse is straight out of Nutroots 101: “Dissent is patriotic! Not that old flag thing!”

Yeah, that makes sense!

Spitting is patriotic!
Blowing your scrotum up like a puffer fish is patriotic!
Dressing up like a clown and carrying paper mache doll signs is patriotic!
Being a stupid ass with no concept of reality is patriotic.

Woah, stomach, calm down. Don't turn over...

re: #43 carefulnow

This is just sad. After 9-11, my son made flag pins out of beads and safety pins and raised over $700 for the Red Cross, $5 at a time. He was 11. I wonder what Obama would say to him about wearing one.

Wow. You have a remarkable young man there.

re: #46 mama winger
Hope all is well with ya!

Good golly. Obama just doesn't understand the importance of the most fundamental of images. The optics on this simple issue are insanely bad. Wearing the pin would be a non-issue.

Not wearing the pin makes himself a target for the spotlight. I'm sure he thinks that's a good thing, but I'll wager his opponents and some of the MSM talking heads will be all over him on this like dirt on the road.

Explaining why he won't wear the pin is going to take a whole lot more effort than explaining why he would wear it. Surely his campaign would prefer to talk about another more substantive issue. Any other issue.

IMO, it's a huge mistake from the not-ready-for-prime-time candidate.

If Obama thinks he's going to get the VP slot under Hillary, he's crazy. While it would probably be smart of her to pick him, she's probably so furious that he has the temerity to run against her, she won't pick him in a million years.

re: #40 forrest

Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great

So the country isn't great now in his view?

Brilliant !

This is a long way removed from Reagan saying we are that shining city on a hill, huh ?

re: #50 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

re: #46 mama winger
Hope all is well with ya!

It is! Cubs are in the play-offs and I am in hog heaven :)

re: #53 Shug

This is a long way removed from Reagan saying we are that shining city on a hill, huh ?

Night and day. Literally.

What a doofus. Normal Americans love this country, even with all its problems. This idiot goes out of his way to remove an outward symbol for love of country, especially after the most devastating attack since Pearl Harbor? Words don't do justice. No wonder the kossacks love him so much. He's a pea in the pod.

re: #47 Nevergiveup

re: #39 NoSubmission

re: #33 mad_scientist

Who is advising this guy? This has to be one of the stupidest things for a politician to do....however, it will appeal to the anti-american left pretty well...

AND, he's been doing it since 2001.

It is just completely depressing that someone this stupid can reach a position of responsibility and is actually taken seriously by anybody.

Well,.. he was sporting the 'no necktie' Ahmadinejihad look for a while there too. Kinda makes one wonder who the fk this guy really is.

okay - really going to take my pre-game nap now...

see ya's later :)

re: #52 doppelganglander

If Obama thinks he's going to get the VP slot under Hillary, he's crazy. While it would probably be smart of her to pick him, she's probably so furious that he has the temerity to run against her, she won't pick him in a million years.

she doesn't need him.
She's already going to get 95% of the black vote because there is a (D) after ner name.

re: #54 mama winger

Ahem!
Hog? did you say Hog!
Glad ta hear it!
LOL

re: #54 mama winger

Go Cubs! from a sad Mets fan...

re: #54 mama winger

re: #50 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

re: #46 mama winger
Hope all is well with ya!

It is! Cubs are in the play-offs and I am in hog heaven :)

The next best thing to the Tigers being in the playoffs is having the cubs in the playoffs.
From an avid white Sox hater, I say GO CUBBIES

"I’m now beginning to put some credence in the idea that Barack Obama is nothing but a stalking horse for the Hillary Clinton campaign..."

I see a bad moon a-risin

As I posted in the last thread, before I got the latest comments and noticed this one.

WTF does he think this Country is? A goddamn social club?

Any candidate that will not show a little patriotism because he/she thinks that such displays are a cynical ploy will get no support from me.

(Like I was going to support a Dem anyway, but hey, I had to say something about this.)

this guy is so detached he should be selling shoes at Pay Less...what the hell kind of system can put this Dumbo up for the presidency?...he is nobody...he is nothing...he has no earned principle...he's making an issue out of pins...why am I even saying this?...sorry but this dupe is not hardly as bright as the guy that washes my truck...he is an embarassment...after years of lurking and months of posting a little I thoroghly understand the Iron Fist Rule...

Obama seems to think wearing the pin was a duty that grew too burdensome. I consider it an honor and a privilege. Obama strikes me as one of those guys who puts a Canadian flag on his backpack whenever he leaves the US.

Well, I certainly have removed any thought of voting for this man...

Of course, I never had any idea at all of voting for him...he is less qualified then just about anyone who is running for President...well, he might tie with John Edwards...

Any Republican candidate is light years ahead of this group...

Oh, and Donkey is really much funnier and a lot more attractive then Marcos...but the idea of Marcos on the hoof does have its moments...

Now, which of the two is the real jackass?

I feel the real reason for dropping the pin is for PR. PR with other world leaders. No more embarrassing pictures of him with an American flag!

OK, before I lose my anger... I made a predicition yesterday that the Dems would use Edwards to say the most outrageous parts of their new, improved platform.

I was half right.

Did anyone see the quote the Elizabeth Edwards basically called Rush's deferment from Vietnam phony?

My classmates went to Vietnam, he did not. He was 4F. He had a medical disability, the same medical disability that probably should have stopped him from spending a lifetime in a radio announcer’s chair; but it is true, isn’t it

What's next, honestly? Sex change rumours? Not involving John Edwards?

re: #20 israellycool

Speaking about (stalking) horses, I could not resist this Separated at Birth, which I suspect my fellow Lizardoids might appreciate.

Speaking of Markkkos, I wonder what Kestral has been up to lately?

re: #69 brent

Too bad Rush is running for president. Her comments are going to kill his campaign

/

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said in the interview. "Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great,

What, you blockhead, you couldn't do BOTH? Stupid ass thinks it's an either/or? How did he pass that part of Math class where you learn set theory? It came in 4th grade when I was a lass.

This guy hasn't pulled his foot out of his mouth since the second day of his campaign. Does he ever say anything that isn't stupid? Does he ever make statements that don't alienate him from the real world?

At least Kucinich is a genuine leftist crackpot. This guy has no idea what America is actually like.

true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security

Why am I not surprised that the left would define patriotism in terms of talking. These people are ALL talk, NO action. No wonder they love the First Amendment so much, but hate the Second.

I just finished reading Dianna West's Death of the Grown-Up and this behavior fits her thesis to a "T". A very disconcertingly compelling read, btw.

re: #72 squarepeg

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said in the interview. "Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great,

What, you blockhead, you couldn't do BOTH? Stupid ass thinks it's an either/or? How did he pass that part of Math class where you learn set theory? It came in 4th grade when I was a lass.

good one peg...so true...didnt know you were a lady...

re: #49 mama winger
Thank you. I think so, too.
Well, I'm glad Obama's out in the open about this and that his advisors are not telling him to wear a pin. What a sorry, sorry candidate.

It's just part of a larger plan, tho - Rush is on front lines in the campaign against these cats; this is a pre-emptive strike on the news for the next 2 years...

re: #75 pygmalienation

I just finished reading Dianna West's Death of the Grown-Up and this behavior fits her thesis to a "T". A very disconcertingly compelling read, btw.

I'm looking forward to reading that book myself!

re: #51 justacanuck

Good golly. Obama just doesn't understand the importance of the most fundamental of images. The optics on this simple issue are insanely bad. Wearing the pin would be a non-issue.

Not wearing the pin makes himself a target for the spotlight. I'm sure he thinks that's a good thing, but I'll wager his opponents and some of the MSM talking heads will be all over him on this like dirt on the road.

Explaining why he won't wear the pin is going to take a whole lot more effort than explaining why he would wear it. Surely his campaign would prefer to talk about another more substantive issue. Any other issue.

IMO, it's a huge mistake from the not-ready-for-prime-time candidate.

Think of the candidates from both sides like they're people you knew in High School. Obama is the whiny goth kid who hated himself and wrote bad poetry.

I'm proud to wear the flag, except that it will get me fired by my leftist leaning bosses if I refuse to take it off. Initially i liked Obama, but I like him less and less as he reveals more of himself. You would think his smart wife would pull him up by the lapels and tell him wear the flag and do it proudly. I can only conjecture that he wishes to be blacker after Jesse trumped him. And one way to do this is to treat the flag as the prime mover of slavery and not worthy of his use. He is not gonna make a good president. He is stuck in other peoples weak ideas. He'll end up in the pocket of some 3rd world bully with more balls.

re: #59 Shug

Not for the black vote, for the antiwar vote. Although since she's leading so much at the moment, it doesn't seem like she needs him for that either at this point.

If I were running the Republican campaign, I would simply play audio of her laugh over and over and over again.

re: #79 Iron Fist

re: #74 rp1138,

I haven't heard Hussein Obama speaking out about the Muslim Threat, have you?

No, because they don't consider the Muslims to be a threat. They think that if they could only just TALK to them and make them understand, then we can all get along, just like on the bumperstickers.

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said...

To me, he says it all in just one word...

re: #20 israellycool

Speaking about (stalking) horses, I could not resist this Separated at Birth, which I suspect my fellow Lizardoids might appreciate.

Hey, that's not fair... to Donkey. He occasionally made me laugh in genuine amusement.

I've always said (actually plagiarized this from somewhere) that Obama is their Dan Quayle. Now I regret insulting Quayle by saying that.

Quick poll:

1) How many here wear patriotic jewelry or clothing every day?

2) How many started after 9/11?

My answers:
1) Flag dog-tag around my neck, permanent accessory no matter what else I'm wearing
2) Started after 9/11

re: #85 WindHorse

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said...

To me, he says it all in just one word...

I noticed that very same thing.

What a piece of work that Obama is.

re: #75 pygmalienation

I'd like to read that. My theory on Obama and a lot of lefties, particularly the males, is that they have daddy issues. It seems like a lot of them were abandoned by their fathers at an early age and they don't know how to act like men and are uncomfortable with their own masculinity.

Watching from Canada, this will be one of the most interesting elections ever. There are just so MANY ways Republicans can go for the jugular. Republican campaign advisors hopefully will act forcefully on their portfolios of idiotic things Democrats say. HAHAHA. I have heard the expression (on this board) target-rich environment...

Our Prime Minister, Harper, pretty much challenged/dared all the opposition today to call an election. Harper isn't even a true conservative, he is more akin to a moderate Democrat in the States. Our country has so many left-wingers, that even he gets tarred as some sort of neo-con devil-child. Ughgh.

Anyhow, I noticed that NONE of the Democrats wore a flag during the last debate...does that mean the last American political party is the Republicans?

re: #76 albusteve

good one peg...so true...didnt know you were a lady...

Thanks abs. Unfortunately, people like Obama make me say things like "stupid ass," and then I'm a little less of a lady.

re: #88 squarepeg

Quick poll:

1) How many here wear patriotic jewelry or clothing every day?

2) How many started after 9/11?

My answers:
1) Flag dog-tag around my neck, permanent accessory no matter what else I'm wearing
2) Started after 9/11

I wore an American flag pin in my black beret during the first gulf war. You should have seen the dirty looks I got from the moonbat locals. After September 11, 2001, I now have an American flag in my front window and one flying in my back yard.

re: #20 israellycool

As Shriek would say "NO Donkey!"

Since there is no room on that puffed up chest, perhaps we could find another place on the body to put the pin?

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

This disasterous war? Really? The one that has so far killed thousands of terrorists and insurgents and pinned them down in places like Iraq and Afghanistan where they can't plot to attack the US?

Apparently Obama hasn't bothered to sit in on any of the military briefings to know that the military campaign is actually doing quite well, including the Anbar Awakening - I doubt that he's heard of it, unless he mistakenly believes that it's the name of a bar of soap.

As for the whole thing about wearing a pin or not. Hey, it's his choice. If he wants to wear one. Fine. If not. Also fine.

He's got to live with the repercussions of those acts - knowing full well that there are a lot of Democrats around the country that do not live in NYC, LA or SF that like seeing their candidates waving the flag.

To me, his unseriousness about defense issues and his out-of-date impressions on the situaiton in Iraq are most troubling. Indeed, it is a problem with most on the Left. They simply do not understand the stakes, what we've accomplished, and the duration of this fight.

re: #95 yesandno

Since there is no room on that puffed up chest, perhaps we could find another place on the body to put the pin?

What chest? LOL

re: #80 NoSubmission
It's well written, and an interesting perspective on American Culture from someone who is the same age as I am, yet who managed to avoid getting sucked into the post 1960's "delusional thinking"-- thinking that many of my contemporaries have yet to recover from. At 47 years old, I'm still trying to recover, lol!
Next read: Norman Podhoretz's
World War IV

Go right ahead Obama, sink the Democratic Party.

re: #88 squarepeg
I put one of the pins my son made after 9-11 on the lapel of whatever jacket I'm wearing. The brass of the safety pins are tarnished. I wear it proudly and whoever asks about it, I get to remind them.
Never forget.

re: #85 WindHorse

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest," he said...

To me, he says it all in just one word...

Yeah, kind of reminds you of "that woman, Monica Lewinsky."

Gotta put some distance between yourself and "that flag," eh Barack?

re: #93 NoSubmission

Ah yes, the car accessories, too. I'm a non-religious type and I've got a "God Bless America" sign in my car. My lefty acquaintances wrinkle their noses at it and ask me why it's there.

/And thank you for responding to our poll!

I'm note even a Brit or American and I fly the flags of Britain and America. Below the Canadian flag though. LOL. The moonbats here in Vancouver just hate it.

Obama said. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.

I think I understand, sortof: Wearing an American flag pin is not patriotic. But dumping on America, the president during wartime, the war effort, the idea of spreading democracy, etc., now that IS patriotic. Got it. Let no one claim that Dems are not patriotic. And likewise, let no one say that a man who beats his wife regularly doesn't love her. It's just his own special way of showing how much he cares.

re: #103 canadianally

Go ally!

re: #90 doppelganglander

Indeed, part of the over-all emasculation (of males) and de-feminization (of females) that ties into the cultural "death of the Grown-Up".

re: #88 squarepeg

Quick poll:

1) How many here wear patriotic jewelry or clothing every day?

2) How many started after 9/11?

My Answers:

1) Very nice flag pin dead center on my chest at the "Y" junction on my neck lanyard at work (defense/space industry, badge must be always visible!) Been using it since i got my first post-college job.

2) Bought a 5' x 7' (roughly) flag for the outside of the house on 9/12/01. It's been up everywhere I've lived since then, in the front whenever possible (like now). Also, have a magnetic American Flag on the back corner of my car (which is German, but hey, even patriots will admit that the huge majority of our cars suck).

re: #98 pygmalienation

re: #80 NoSubmission
It's well written, and an interesting perspective on American Culture from someone who is the same age as I am, yet who managed to avoid getting sucked into the post 1960's "delusional thinking"-- thinking that many of my contemporaries have yet to recover from. At 47 years old, I'm still trying to recover, lol!
Next read: Norman Podhoretz's
World War IV

Then you would enjoy Pamela Atlas's radio interview with Diana West.

re: #65 albusteve

he should be selling shoes at Pay Less

LOVE IT!

If wearing the American flag denotes support of America,
wearing nothing denotes support of...

He just lost the vote I wasn't going to cast for him.

re: #108 NoSubmission

Thanks, I'll check it out...sigh...Pamela...

Obama was groomed and put into power by to one of the Chief Clintonistas back in IL (I'm sorry the name escapes me at the moment). He's there to keep the black vote interested before swinging his support to Hillary, and it appears he's also there to make Hillary seem centrist by comparison.

Obama, your candidacy is over. Just light up a Kool and relax.

“The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin,” Obama said. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.

”I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest,“ he said in the interview. ”Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism."

Translation:
"I'm much more nuanced than all those flag pin wearing yahoos." ( "And by not wearing the pin I won't have the negative downside of my base thinking I actually love my country.")

Hillary's straw man.

re: #114 jamgarr

“The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin,” Obama said. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.

”I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest,“ he said in the interview. ”Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism."

Translation:
"I'm much more nuanced than all those flag pin wearing yahoos." ( "And by not wearing the pin I won't have the negative downside of my base thinking I actually love my country.")

"I wore the pin before I didn't wear the pin."

Barak as President on March 3rd 2009

I have decided to take the flag poles down as of April 1st 2009 so as not to make foreign dignitaries feel like they have to look at what the United States has wrought upon them in the past.

I will take the flag off of Air Force One as I feel we should have the UN flag on it. We are all one as you know !

We will start draping all caskets at Arlington Cemetery with non-discript linen as soon as I get back from my trip to Paris to meet Amadinnerjad and listen to his plans to only have 50 nuclear warheads instead of 75.

do we want someone for potus, who refuses to wear the american flag on his lapel? how could that fool think he has a chance in hell w/ the people of this country.

re: #116 Ward Cleaver

"I wore the pin before I didn't wear the pin."

LOL!

I wear mine in a manner reminiscent of Jenjis Khan!

Wonder if the senator would be good enough to reveal who he serves first if not the American people. Just say it out loud Mr. Barak Hussein Obama.Dare ya!

"We all revere the flag, but Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol.

So MUCH about what a 'president' does in public is symbolic. Pomp and circumstance comes with the job. Is he ditching it for the campaign, or is he just ditching it?

And isn't there someone with half of a clue around him available to tell him that if you want a high powered job, you have to behave in a manner like you already have it. In other words, if you want to be the President, you have to act 'presidential'...

I'm not surprised that some idiot suggested this to him, what I am suprised at is that he didn't think this one all of the way through. I had no intention on voting for him, but just because someone has different views from me, doesn't automatically make them a moron.

However, this one hits the stupid ball, right out of the park. Alienating a massive group of people without much gain. Hell, dissing a major part of the JOB that he is lobbying for.

What physical artificat is there that is an official presidential ANYTHING that doesn't have an American flag on it? (Uh, that would be NOTHING, Bob.)

Bet he'd put on a Hizb'Allah flag pin.

Let's start calling it like it is-B.Hussain-Obama-shall we?. The Manchurian candidate. Our Hilary done got herself a great little opponent there. She couldn't have done better if she drew him herself. Of course he isn't worth the paper he's printed on anyway.
I find it amusing that his wife may well sink him. And our Hilary's "Husband" (read goat-whore) will almost certainly do something to sink her. In fact, I love it.

re: #118 nyc redneck

do we want someone for this potus, who refuses to wear the american flag on his lapel? how could that fool think he has a chance in hell w/ the people of this country.

There, fixed that for ya.

A muslim showins true allegiance? Shocking...not at all.

re: #125 Hard Right

A muslim showing his true allegiance? Shocking...not at all.

re: #24 trailortrash
if he will wear one, will it be an upside down one...

Maybe, if it's under the flag of Mexico.

re: #124 carefulnow

re: #118 nyc redneck

do we want someone for this potus, who refuses to wear the american flag on his lapel? how could that fool think he has a chance in hell w/ the people of this country.

There, fixed that for ya.

lol

#88 Squarepeg

I have one of those cling things in the truck window, permanently. And I have a couple of flag pins, a ring bought for the bicentennial and my father's dog tags; atleast one of those is one me every time I leave the house. Every day since 9/11.

It isn't that I think it's enough to wear one of those things to show I love my country. That is in addition to the help and donations I give organizations that support our country.

Obama is trying to make a sound-bite of something that is much more complex.

re: #5 Iron Fist
The South is not fooled by that muslim in sheep's clothing.
And what I have to say to him is this...You sunavabitch! We know you never served your country. Now you want to be president which requires patrotism. How could you be trusted if you have none. We know you never thought about the loved ones who waited on the tarmac for the body of their son to be deplaned. Coffin draped with the FLAG! and after the funeral the FLAG is presented to the family! so that flag means something you stupid sob. And that smallest show of patrotism is shirked off by you..Get lost you worthless pile of crap.

re: #78 brent

It's just part of a larger plan, tho - Rush is on front lines in the campaign against these cats; this is a pre-emptive strike on the news for the next 2 years...

Absolutely.

The VRWC started when Bill C had his fake blow up on Fox News.

The Clintons will be trying to destroy all voices from the right.

No flag, no vote. Sorry Obama, that flag is more than a kaffir symbol.

re: #125 Hard Right

A muslim showins true allegiance? Shocking...not at all.

He's a black separatist, not a muslim.

re: #129 Retread

Obama is trying to make a sound-bite of something that is much more complex.

Funny, I think of it as a very simple symbol that doesn't need any nuancing at all.

And p.s. he has shown his true colors by more than just this flag thing

I can't believe Hillary Clinton would be dumb enough to pick this man for a V.P. but I hope she is...I was thinking that maybe 2008 would just be a lackluster election since I have such little confidence in either party.

But it is time patriotic people, those who actually appreciate what America is supposed to represent, who love and respect their country, who respect the sacrifices made, and who want the best for their children to get off their collective asses and elect new Republicans or form a new party that will return her to her roots.

Because I am beginning to get a very bad feeling that our country as we know it isn't going to make it if we don't.

It's a flag thing, we wouldn't understand.

How about a United Nations flag then?

I bet Obama would never wear one of these t-shirts either. "No matter how long it may take us to win through to absolute victory..."

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

I imagine he'll give the wounded G.I.'s in the hospital fuzzy bunny slippers. What's next, no flags in the background of his photos, and would he take the oath on a Koran?
He is just a warm and fuzzy guy and an asshole.

It's about more than being just an empty suit. This guy is a plant. A ringer-a fifth columnist sent by someone named mohamhead to undermine the country. If you believe otherwise you are misinformed.
I think he's dating Soros.

re: #88 squarepeg

I usually carry a flag-based challenge coin with me, like this:[Link: www.nwtmint.com...]
or this: [Link: www.nwtmint.com...]

Gibson on Fox just started the snowball by going over the no flag pin thing on his show. Get out of the way-the avalanche is gonna run you down.

Hay Obama

Stick with the pin.

It does a much better job showing patriotism than your lame talking excuse for not wearing one

re: #134 jamgarr

re: #129 Retread

Obama is trying to make a sound-bite of something that is much more complex.

Funny, I think of it as a very simple symbol that doesn't need any nuancing at all.

Well said.

I believe I'll show MY patriotism by telling the American people that B. Hussein Obama is a five-star assclown.

But a clean one.

”I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest,“ he said in the interview. ”Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism."

A rubber headed, witless moonbat who has not discovered yet exactly what country made him or his family nor what playbook to take his beliefs from.

Political suicide for a Republican candidate = Pandering to the base for a Democrat candidate

re: #7 newsjunkie_ky

Why would he wear an American Flag pin? His allegiance is to allah.

I am afraid that you are right. Candidate Hussein is quoted as saying that
the sweetest human sound iis the daily call to prayer. Granted during his Muslim days , but I do not think that he would be enthusiastic in the WOT

It's simple. The votes he's going for are offended by the sight of that pin. Their sons and daughters are on college campuses burning the American flag. They wouldn't lay a glove on the flags of nations dripping with the blood of their own citizens - The old Soviet Union, Red China or Cuba. No, those they hang up in their windows.

Don't be silly. Being against your country doesn't mean you're unpatriotic. What are you? A patriot or something?

/moonbat off

And he's running for President of what country, now?
Isn't he smart enough to lie about his contempt for our flag?
He removed it after 9/11 because that was the worst attack we had suffered, and he switched sides? Or he was scared to wear it? Or he was happy that we were under attack at last?
A Presidential candidate whose name and schooling is an issue should go overboard with the flag, not dump it. Afterall, it might fool some of the people...

Here he is, with the flag of Kenya..where his dad is from.

Too bad Hussein wasn't born there, instead of Hawaii.

#153 NY NANA

Here he is, with the flag of Kenya..where his dad is from.

Too bad Hussein wasn't born there, instead of Hawaii.

My uncle had ears like that. we called him dumbo

Obama, the Union soldiers who died to bring you freedom fought under that flag.

Brak Osama held a press conference, an empty suit showed up.

Maybe he prefers a cresent moon and sword since his middel name is Hussein!

re: #149 opnion

Here is the Church he is now conveniently connected to...racist to the extreme.

Having something that valuable on the outside and being impoverished on the inside was probably upsetting his equilibrium.

Someone needs to sit him down and explain symbolism to him. The US Flag represents the United States of America. It represents the airhead people that have substituted flags for true patriotism. It represents stupid politicians out to clean, gut and filet our people. It represents our hopes, our best and our worst. It represents all the USA is. Sure some people will wear anything as a trinket, a bit of jewelry. If you are too embarrassed to wear the symbol of our nation because you don't want to be perceived as putting on an empty show of patriotism, you don't understand the symbol.

re: #154 southernborn

But I would bet that your uncle had something between his ears, and did not have his foot in his mouth. Hussein's edumacation at Harvard? Shmarvard.

re: #158 NY Nana

re: #149 opnion

Here is the Church he is now conveniently connected to...racist to the extreme.

Their only difference from the Nation of Islam is they have a cross instead of a crescent.

Not sure about the orbiting Mother Ship, though...

B. Hussein Ubama, he's neat, articulate, and doesn't wear an American Flag Pin.

re: #161 Spiny Norman

Their only difference from the Nation of Islam is they have a cross instead of a crescent.

Not sure about the orbiting Mother Ship, though...

Same here...and the really sad thing is that the demonrats are not aware what a menace he is, and Shrillary would sell her (?) own mother to get what she wants.

re: #18 ploome hineni

re: #35 Iron Fist

What "LGF thingies for a jacket?" I want one, too!

:)

that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security

And I'm sure that as President, he'll share that thought with Kim Jong Il, Ahmadinejad, Chavez and Castro (Raul, anyway), in each of their individual "I got to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom" encounters with them that he's promised. Oh, and doubtless he'll talk about "true patriotism" with the President of Canada, too.

re: #158 NY Nana

You notice that they are black first and then Christian?

Barack "Not that Hussein" Obama as Mark Levin calls him.

I have to say that I agree with him. Patriotism is more than just wearing the flag on a daily basis, or putting some stupid magnet on your car. You actually have to DO SOMETHING patriotic to be patriotic - so if you are going to attack his patriotism, a pin is a really weak excuse.

re: #110 cosmo

If wearing the American flag denotes support of America,
wearing nothing denotes support of...

He just lost the vote I wasn't going to cast for him.

Amazing-we have candidates running for president who are proud to NOT fly the flag of our country. And I like his Big Brotheresque way of explaining to us little people what patriotism really is. Maybe he can explain it to my cousin who is half his age and has done two tours of duty in Baghdad already.

re: #121 Jeewhiz

"We all revere the flag, but Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol.

So MUCH about what a 'president' does in public is symbolic. Pomp and circumstance comes with the job. Is he ditching it for the campaign, or is he just ditching it?
And isn't there someone with half of a clue around him available to tell him that if you want a high powered job, you have to behave in a manner like you already have it. In other words, if you want to be the President, you have to act 'presidential'...
What physical artificat is there that is an official presidential ANYTHING that doesn't have an American flag on it? (Uh, that would be NOTHING, Bob.)

That's a very good point.
THe Head of State of ANY nation is by nature a symbolic position - that person is the face of the nation to other nations, one person representing the millions behind him or her. It's not a simplistic symbolic position, for in the case of the US president, he is also the Chief Executive AND the Commander-in-Chief of the military. In contrast, the true role of Ahmedinejad is rather unclear, given the power of the mullahs he's effectively hiding from public view. One could say he's the public face of the mullahs, but he is truly the face of Iran to the nations.
This symbolic business is more important than some people realize. There are many who do understand it, but let's talk about it a little to help clarify the concept. The Maharaja's of India used to parade their elephants and the jewels and gold of the kingdom once a year to the masses so the population could have a tangible presentation of the wealth of their kingdom. England allows the public to view the Crown Jewels - the royalty was expected to wear them on high official occasions, especially on national holidays. Likewise, the Soviets paraded their missles before the public to show them their nation's military power. Americans aren't used to this sort of thing, AMerican parades are quirky unmilitary - all clowns, school bands, and floats and pretty girls in ball gowns - an astonishing display of security and really, great power. Americans have no inner urges to have to be reassured of America's military arsenal once a year.
Look at the portraits of the kings - the royal robes in purple and red, the crowns, with symbols encorporated into them that evoked specific events in the past that impacted on the current ruling structure. THe Pharaohs of Egypt, wearing the crown of the Upper Kingdom, the Lower Kingdom, and then the combined crown of both, after unification. They held in their crossed hands symbols of their nation - the scepters: a shepherd's crook, and a scourge.
Look at any of the coronation paintings of Napolean Bonaparte - they are LOADED with symbolism- purposeful attempts to provide him with a legitimacy that really wasn't legit.
To keep the subject slightly on the theme, note any picture of Jomo Kenyatta, the first President of Kenya - he AWAYS carried a switch (don't remember if it was lion hair or rhino or something suitably powerful-like) as tribal symbol of power. THe leader of any Masai grouping will always be identified quickly by the beaded ceremonial club he holds in his hand. Former Kenyan President DAniel Arap Moi always carried a ceremonial club/sceptre as a reminder to the public of his status.
So, there is everything normal and correct about wearing a USA flag for an American and ESPECIALLY the Head of State or anyone desiring to gain that position. It would be totally correct to point out that Obama is being grossly culturally insensitive to whimper away from wearing the flag pin.

re: #168 billiam627

I have to say that I agree with him. Patriotism is more than just wearing the flag on a daily basis, or putting some stupid magnet on your car. You actually have to DO SOMETHING patriotic to be patriotic - so if you are going to attack his patriotism, a pin is a really weak excuse.

Gee, what do you think that he could do regarding that as either a presidential candidate or as the President, himself? Doesn't he already have the opportunity to DO? Or is he just going to blather to the far left wring?

Because THAT is what it actually boils down to. DOING is inherent to both jobs that I mentioned. Matter of fact, he should already be DOING things as a member of Congress. If you are already doing something, do you need to talk about doing, or do you just continue to do it?

And again, there is a major amount of symbolism in both the flag and the jobs. Yep, photo ops and handshakes and standing in front of symbols of America. Because the flag represents America, the country and the people, not just fabric on a stick. He not only should feel comfortable wearing that pin, he should be able to tatoo one on his ass.

re: #57 NoSubmission

Well,.. he was sporting the 'no necktie' Ahmadinejihad look for a while there too. Kinda makes one wonder who the fk this guy really is.

The Mullahchurian Candidate.

re: #171 Jeewhiz

If you are already doing something, do you need to talk about doing, or do you just continue to do it?

Exactly, if he is already doing something, why does he have to wear some pin to try garner more respect? Actions speak much louder than pins, at least last time I checked.

The two of them, Edwards and Obama are sucking the air out of opposition to Hillary. They are the Knights-chesspiece to her
Queen. They block for her and make her look center.
Who knows, Obama and Edwards may end up in the Hillbill cabinet. Total kabuki.
Donk voters are lappin' it up. And the women swoon-'a woman President at last, even if I don't agree with her'.

re: #168 billiam627

I have to say that I agree with him. Patriotism is more than just wearing the flag on a daily basis, or putting some stupid magnet on your car. You actually have to DO SOMETHING patriotic to be patriotic - so if you are going to attack his patriotism, a pin is a really weak excuse.

You’re missing the point. This is not merely about a piece of metal on a lapel – the point is that this guy is a flake and a moron with questionable loyalties. The lack of a pin is stupid politics, and every other statement that comes out of his mouth, including about this, is just plain loopy. If you’re running for president, every symbolic gesture matters. If you can’t accept that, don’t be a candidate. He isn’t qualified to run a gas station, much less the United States.

I wear my flag pin and US Army pin every single day. Plus I wear copies of my oldest son's dog tags (He is in the Army), and my Israel/American Flag dog tags. I have both the American and Israeli flag on my desk at work, and a flag on my house. B. Hussein Obama can kiss my Red, White and Blue Tuchas! I love America!

He has pushed the country to the limits of our good nature and credulity in considering him as a serious candidate. No further.

Time to flush the commode.

It's almost funny how the Democrats allow him to make such a mockery of them because they entertain his candidacy.

He is pissing on this country for months now, all the while smiling and trying to have a friendly chat with us about the rain.

Not such a big thing really. After all he's not an American is he?
...What?...
naw you gotta be sh!tting me.

re: #178 Ezekiel2517

He is pissing on this country for months now, all the while smiling and trying to have a friendly chat with us about the rain.

Don't Pee on My Leg and Tell Me It's Raining: America's Toughest Family Court Judge Speaks Out

Great title, good read.

re: #166 cybermonk

Yes. And no one is brave enough, but people like Conservatives, to point out that the Emperor has no shoes, and cares not about the same country that he wants to be President of, in this case.

Skin color is just that. It does not define the person...(try telling Michael Jackson that); in any case, yes, we do see the color of someone's skin ,but it is by their actions, not their skin color, that we know them. And they seem to call themselves 'black Americans' still, in 2007. I am an American, period.

And whenever they are found guilty of anything? They accuse the public of prejudice; the proverbial murderer of their parents, throwing themselves on the mercy of the court, for being an orphan.

I am Jewish, and have faced Jew hate, but I also have the right to speak out. And believe me, I do! :)

Hey - sorry for the hit and run post, but I sure would like someone to ask him two questions:
1. Is he an American? and 2. If he should win election, will he put his hand on a bible and only a bible when he is sworn in as President or Vice-President?
Thankew all, very much.

I pledge allegiance!

Picture worth 1000 words.

FU obama

re: #133 Dar ul Harb

re: #125 Hard Right

A muslim showins true allegiance? Shocking...not at all.

He's a black separatist, not a muslim.

I feel so much better.///

re: #142 The Jinxmedic Pardon my ignorance, but where would one acquire either of those two excellent coins?

re: #9 NoSubmission

So he waited just after the worst terror attacks in history that murdered 3000 Americans to take off his flag pin.

Jeez, he just makes me sick. I thought he was an airhead, now I think he is truly dangerous.

Wonder if he passed out sweets around the same time he took off the flag pin.

Get the HOOK! He's done!

re: #185 realwest

Here you go RW

[Link: www.nwtmint.com...]

Geez. He said this in *Iowa*? Waterloo-Cedar Falls area is very conservative (Cedar Rapids, being closer to Iowa City, is a little less so). I spent my undergrad years there.

He just lost Iowa, if he ever had a chance. Not that I can see any of the Dem candidates doing well.

At least this should further erode centrist support. Even if you're going to be a critic, you can still wear the colors as a patriot.

Quel idiot.

He won't wear a flag pin? At least when he fails to get the Democratic nomination, he can always go to work for comrade Google.

re: #180 RickZ

Judge Judy! Now she'd wear a flag pin.

re: #188 MeanMrMustard Hey, thanks a lot for that information! Just wished they listed the prices, but I do thank you very much.

He is running for Phony President.

re: #168 billiam627

I have to say that I agree with him. Patriotism is more than just wearing the flag on a daily basis, or putting some stupid magnet on your car. You actually have to DO SOMETHING patriotic to be patriotic - so if you are going to attack his patriotism, a pin is a really weak excuse.

If the left has taught you anything surely it is that image is everything.

I grew up in Cedar Rapids. Spent my childhood Pheasant Hunting, fishing, duck hunting, shooting at the Izaak Walton Pistol Range with dad...

That town is as patriotic as any, even if Iowa tilts Blue (which I still don't get, but I blame Iowa City), and this news report of Mr. Obama's feelings toward the flag will go over like a brick.

Who do these people like Obama represent? Can we ask them all to leave? Now?

re: #181 NY Nana

Hi NY Nana

I've read a lot of US History, including a lot of Civil War history

And I am left with a feeling of "we are all in this together as brothers and sisters".

and "Let's work together and take care of each other."

And those who push divisions do not get what this country is about.

And look at the flag: 50 stars, together in one field.

Replace "patriotism" with "love" in his lame quote from the article and you get this:

"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he doesn't tell his wife he loves her any more, because “I love you” has become a substitute for “true love.” The Illinois Senator said he hopes to show his love by explaining his ideas about their relationship to her. . . ."

What a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.

re: #178 Ezekiel2517

Agree 100%. I am surprised that as many people dislike him as much as I do. And here I thought I was such a radical! Feh.

re: #183 MeanMrMustard

Is that a photoshop? Mother of G-d that's a bit much then, isn't it?

Are there two worse senators than Durbin and Obama from one state? - besides Kennedy and Kerry-Heinz, of course. And Schumer and Rotten Clinton.
/the bronze goes to Illinois

re: #196 Ojoe

Great post! I agree with you. And we can only hope that the voters will see through Hussein and Shrillary, and not vote for either of them in the primaries, but then there is not one single demonrat worth voting for in the first place.

In NY, you have to be registered in a party to vote in the primaries.

Its all strategery

Obama keeps the KOsturdz voting for Hillary by making wacked out far-left comments, Hillary keeps the stupid soccer moms, single women, and unions

Maybe he's not black enough to be patriotic?

Maybe he's not white enough to be patriotic?

Maybe he's just not patriotic?

Maybe he's just a dumb F&$ker!

Well, as I said in the next thread - Hey Obama - STFU. And to think I spent 6 yrs. helping defend this nation for Algore and Obama, pus bags extraordinaire.

I know that it's not politically correct to point out this INCONVENIENT TRUTH about Barack Hussein Obama:

He has historical ties to Muslim extremists who preach anti-American hate.

Yes, it has been reported that he has severed these ties...but what is the evidence that he has done so?

You be the judge: does he sound more like a Patriot or a Mole these days?

Maybe he has a constituency that is offended by the sight of the American flag, and he just does not want to annoy that constituency. He may not himself be anti-patriotic, but he feels that some of the people who are going to vote for him in the Democrat Party primary, and some of the people who could raise a lot of funds for him for the primary campaign, and some of the people who could become very active for him in the primary campaign, are themselves anti-patriotic. Think nutroots. Think extremist base.

Obama may feel the need to pander to the anti-patriotic extemists of the base of the party. Base, in more ways than one.

In case you don't know what a "stalking horse" is or where the term comes from (I didn't):

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Obama is a really bad politician. Maybe he'll get better later in life, but right now his career the past 5 years looks like a gigantic fluke

Wow, a stupid pointless question about a wardrobe choice 6 years ago. How remarkably relevant.

65 albusteve-I've been around here fora while...what is Iron Fist rule? I never knew he had a rule.

with Obama,there is no "there"there. He is apparently and empty suit. Worse than that he loves allthe attention and is willing to accept talking papers that make him look like an idiot.

Imo, this is all a Hillary con job. Obi-Wan Obama and Edwards are in on it with Hill-bill to checkmate anyone else from running on the donk side and make Hillary look reasoned and center.

Michele Obama sees all this con job and the goofy talking points and is streesed out, I think, concerned for her husband.

breaking news...this just in...replying to obama hrc pledges to discontinue wearing her iconic american flag panties, more at !:00

"Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, "

WILL MAKE this country great? Scuse me? I beg your pardon?

An extra despicable brand of ingratitude, I must say. Barack Obama has ideas that 'will make' this country great, if only.

I got news for you Barack Obama. America IS a great country, it is the greatest country that ever was and all the world owes it a debt of thanks.

I can't believe I used to call myself a Democrat. This is beyond disgraceful. If this sort of sickness spreads any further, heaven help us.

re: #200 mrsoc

re: #183 MeanMrMustard

Is that a photoshop? Mother of G-d that's a bit much then, isn't it?

I wanna know too. If it isn't a photoshop... ooh. that guy is SO finished.

Obabma. He's quite the tedious one isn't he?

re: #158 NY Nana

That web page for B. Hussein's church is really eye-opening. Let's keep in mind that this is the church he chose for himself, as an independent adult, for spiritual reasons. A quote from near the top of the page:

... We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. ...

Let's laugh at the inaccuracy first, to get that out of the way. Iraq was the "cradle of civilization", since the first city was there, and that's technically in Asia - Africa is the "cradle of humanity", since humankind began there. Also, when they claim to be true to their "native land", they apparently don't mean the place they were born (which is probably the US for practically all of them) so the correct term is "ancestral homeland". Ignorant schmucks!

Anyway, this site is pretty anti-American, obviously. They pledge devotion to Africa (a place almost none of them have probably ever even been), not America. Their vision is devoted to "liberation" (I guess they didn't hear about the white Republicans liberating them during the Civil War) and "economic parity" (i.e., "communism"). It promotes what they call the "Black Value System" (nothing about American values).

Just makes you want to sign the whole congregation up for cabinet posts, don't it?

As to the pin thing, what do you expect from a party where most of the candidates are tripping over each other trying to show who can be the biggest traitor? Don't act so shocked, Lizards!

"Stupid is as stupid does."

Mama Gump

Sounds like he's going for the 17 - 19 year old college kid vote. Are there enough of them to put him ahead of Shrillary?

Everything is a grand clinton machine manipulation.
think mob.

My US-built Toyota minivan has 3 magnets on the rear of it, the American flag, "Support Our Troops" and POW/MIA ribbons. It also has an American flag license plate frame and a ragged old POW/MIA sticker on the back window (plus a desert cammy OBX sticker that I just couldn't pass up since it matches the van). There is a Gasden flag license plate on the front, a flag windsock dangling from the rear view mirror and a Vietnam War Memorial sticker (portraying the statue of the three soldiers) on the windshield. The vehicle has only had those decorations on it for about 4 years, but then, it is only 4 years old. On my jungle cammy boonie hat, there is a US/Israeli flag pin (I'm Episcopal, FWIW). Most of my shirts have a US flag theme (pickups & flags, fighters & flags, woodies and flags and not the kind of woodies that zombie documented, shudder...) or have a red, white and blue theme (H-D tees are great for that). The house has flown a flag out in front of it for as long as I have been here (1994) and is illuminated at night. I'm wearing an Air Force tee as i type this. I am not a vet nor did I lose any friends or family in 'Nam, but I am the proud product of a military household. Nor do I have a Harley...

And Barak HUSSEIN Osama, uh, Obama thinks he would appeal to ME?!? As if! Dork...

re: #220 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Sounds like he's going for the 17 - 19 year old college kid vote. Are there enough of them to put him ahead of Shrillary?

they are both going for the 18-22 age group; and older adults with the same mentality. that's why you see so much Hillary and Bill pimping on lame holllywood TV shows. I''m sure MTV (empty-Vee) will pimp Hillary soon.

re: #96 lawhawk

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

This disasterous war? Really? The one that has so far killed thousands of terrorists and insurgents and pinned them down in places like Iraq and Afghanistan where they can't plot to attack the US?

Apparently Obama hasn't bothered to sit in on any of the military briefings to know that the military campaign is actually doing quite well, including the Anbar Awakening - I doubt that he's heard of it, unless he mistakenly believes that it's the name of a bar of soap.

As for the whole thing about wearing a pin or not. Hey, it's his choice. If he wants to wear one. Fine. If not. Also fine.

He's got to live with the repercussions of those acts - knowing full well that there are a lot of Democrats around the country that do not live in NYC, LA or SF that like seeing their candidates waving the flag.

To me, his unseriousness about defense issues and his out-of-date impressions on the situation in Iraq are most troubling. Indeed, it is a problem with most on the Left. They simply do not understand the stakes, what we've accomplished, and the duration of this fight.

Well said.

re: #166 cybermonk

re: #158 NY Nana

You notice that they are black first and then Christian?

And nowhere do they say anything about being AMERICAN!

People are even thinking of electing this guy for what? To turn the United States of America into the Islamic States of America? COule there be any other agenda?

What a maroon. He's running for President of the United States and refuses to wear its symbol. It's akin to a football player refusing to wear his team's logo during a game because he suspects some of the fans wearing the logo aren't real fans.

whiskey, it just aint right, is it...
My take-
Obama took the United States Flag pin OFF of himself. Its not just that he once wore it, it is that he has now refused our great flag.

The US FLAG that every child in this country pledged allegiance to for countless years. OUR flag that flies half-staff when a President or another great American dies. OUR flag that IS the very embodiment of FREEDOM and HONOR and HOPE.

Obama took it down.

For millennia, all countries have proudly carried their flag before their troops in battle, it was their leader and inspiration. Many flags were carried, but none so proudly and for the benefit of so many people ( America and other countries) as the US FLAG. Still today they’re called the HONOR GUARD for any who are so lucky to be the chosen carrier(s) for this great flag.

The most famous picture made in the history of the United States is of a U.S. FLAG above an island... named Iwo Jima.

Obama has now refused it.

Our flag stands for each and every great person and great event in America’s 230+year history as well as every person who has died for what it stands for.

Tell us now, B. Hussein Obama, that all the American people from the 1700’s , the 1800’s , the 1900’s, and in this new millennium, through each battle in every war including WW1 & WWll, from before and beyond, that every drop of American blood spilt for freedom and justice for all, that NOW according to you, B.Hussein Obama, that wearing the U.S. flag means ‘unpatriotic’ testimony.

Tell us, is this what you truly meant to say while you run for the highest office in the land?
The office in charge of all of our men and women in the armed forces who carry this flag before them?
You, as the possible COMMANDER IN CHIEF? Pray tell, what would you wear then?