Yeah, right, dig up 350,000 dead souls.

Real smart thinking.

There goes the neighborhood

- the dead

Of all the Islamic supremacist moves made in the UK so far, this one might be the most brazen and personally offensive.

Interestingly, most of the voices defending the cemetery remaining as is are environmentalists. Seems like GB can't stand up for their ancestors. Sad.

How many ways can they think up to erase the culture they are trying to replace?

This one is particularly creative. And disgusting.

Damn fucking Muslims. Go to Mecca to get buried.

Holy Crap ! This would NOT go over well in.....ummmm.....let's say.....New York City......."Excuse me, Don Antonio. Your dear sweet mother from Sicily is going to be dug up to make room for multi-culturality."

And henceforth the ground will be claimed by the ROP as their land in perpetuity.
They not only want it all, they want to erase our very existence.

No doubt the Muslims will keep the cemetary stocked with plenty of freshly killed bodies.

Murder. It's what they do..

“To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

I believe this is, by definition, an oxymoron.

They're not satisfied with trying to control the living. Now they're trying to control the dead.

Shamefully, they'll probably succeed.

There comes a day when a muslim community has pushed the dhimmis too far that the dhimmis have no choice but to organize to fight back.

May that day come sooner!

Or I think the muslims are testing how far the 'red line' is and delay the fight for another day.

Over my dead body!
(sorry, couldn't resist!)

When the napoleonic reformers planned the destruction of the cemeteries, the Italian Poet Ugo Foscolo wrote a poem that has remained a classic of Italian Literature.
It is titled

I SEPOLCRI
the sepulchers

I would have never thought in my life I would have had to quote it as referring to anything happening in present times.

But here we go

A egrege cose l'anime accendono l'urne dei forti

/no possible translation can conveyb the strength and the rhythm of this verse
//the tombs of the strong ignite the soul to great deeds

any hog farmers in great britain want to loan their flock out to graze on this land for a few days.

that ought to solve the problem for good

There's plenty of room for them to bury their dead....in Saudi Arabia!

convey of course doesn't need a final B

One would think this would go over like a fart in church. Evidently not.

islamic invasion:
Just say no

Why not just start with clearing out the old bones in Westminster Abbey?

Their to F'in good for what is available?
F 'em.
Use the landfill, the part for kitchen waste with lots of pork scraps.

OK, remember that Islam is a death and moon cult. Their highest holiday (Ramadan) is based on the new moon, when it most dark, etc.

The Muslim faith has worshiped death and darkness since it's creation.

It's only natural that they want to control the cemeteries as well.

I read this the other day and I was reminded of a similar story where they were going to dig up graves that turned out to be completely overblown.

"I can only pray that the wisdom of all faiths can together discover the right way ahead for this very special part of East London's heritage."

First blind assumption is that all faiths rely on wisdom. This isn't about doing the right thing, it's about one faith in particular virtually bulldozing a historic resting place, because they feel they are more important. Wisdom has nothing to do with it.

It's horseshit. Call it what it is.

How about "no"? The old graveyards of England are one of the great things. I don't think this is acceptable.

The Tower Of London would be an excellent place for a new Super Mosque. It's currently occupied by a bunch of old buildings nobody uses. Not to mention it's a site that fetishizes Anglo-Saxon domination in the middle ages, thus offending Asians and hurting their feelings. Maybe it could be called an Interfaith Center. Jews would be allowed to walk around the perimeter, on Tuesdays, between 8 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. Native English people could enter, provided they sign a document stating they will not talk or think about English history while on the premises.

I wastold they do that in France. It is 75 yrs for a cemetary there and then the govt "deaccessions" it. I was visiting a wholesale antique business and they had in all these wonderful
wrought iron crosses 4 ft tall. All pierced and with Empire embellishments. and I asked where are these from. And that is what he told me.I did not buy one because the whole thing was too creepy.

From council leader Cllr. Denise Jones:

"Tower Hamlets Council is proud to be "friendly" to people of all faiths, not just Islam. We are also proud of our borough that's home to thousands of diverse people; some that have lived in the borough for many years, others a few months.

"We are very aware that there is a desire amongst our residents for a new burial ground in the borough and work has been undertaken over a number of years to assess the feasibility of this.

"The lack of space in London for new or expanding cemeteries is not unique to the London Borough of Tower Hamlets. Most people who live in inner London boroughs and who wish to be buried, must currently seek a suitable burial site, often a long way from where their families and friends live.

"With regards to Tower Hamlets Cemetery Park, there are currently no plans to re-open it as a cemetery. Councillors are fully aware that it is a popular and historic nature park and if there were any proposals to alter the look or the functionality of the Park, there would be a full consultation with interested parties."

“There is no way we’ll allow them to dig up our ancestors.”

I sure the hell hope that is true, but i have a feeling it will happen.
Just about anything goes to please the "religion of peace".

When they are done with the Cemeteries, they should begin recycling the museums.
The British Museum could be easily and usefully transformed into a housing complex for muslims.
The National Gallery too.

Don't forget the Ashmolean in Oxford.

Of course St. Paul must become a mosque.

26 dianna- they won't say "No" to these dopes.

unfuckinbelievable

There is a hospital here in town that is built on the site of the area's first Jewish cemetery. The congregation that owned the cemetery bought another site a couple of miles away and moved the graves (less than 200, I believe). There is serious doubt that all the bodies were moved. When an historical plaque was was mounted on the hospital's fence a few years ago, a rabbi speaking at the ceremony made a strong argument for NEVER moving cemeteries- they become hallowed ground that should not be sold for other purposes.

But the Labour-controlled council’s environment spokesman Abdal Ullah appeared to be in no doubt about the feasibility of the plan when he said: “To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

When the Jordanians had control of the West Bank and the Old City, They had no qualms about desecration and destruction of Jewish cemeteries, and Jewish and Christian Holy sites. This has most recently been demonstrated in Bethlehem and Hevron.

The islamic world is determined to establish a worldwide caliphate with domination of all others. This is no great secret. It is written about extensively by moslems around the world. It is preached in mosques every week throughout the moslem world. It can be seen in tapes of speeches, on international television, on the internet.

The desire for domination is a jealous one. It tolerates no other views. A Jewish State in Israel, Buddhist statues in Afghanistan, pork served at meals in British schools, synagogues and churches freely attended, women free to define their own lives, children free to learn all of the knowledge that our civilization has amassed; in the eyes of our enemies all the freedoms and rights we take for granted are anathema.

There is no compromise with this desire for domination.

[Link: herbertsobel.blogspot.com...]

Uprooting 350,000 gravesites?
That is the act of barbarians.
Barbarians are traditionally met with one of two strategies: you fight them until they're all dead or just go away, or you surrender your civilization.
If needs be, I plan to take a largish quantity of barbarian sideboys to Hell with me.

/drive-through

England's Tax Pounds hard at work to appease the religion "peace"

re: #15 Shug

any hog farmers in great britain want to loan their flock out to graze on this land for a few days.

that ought to solve the problem for good

brilliant.

This effrontery astounds me. If the people of Britain allow this desecration to take place, it is the end of them. Chinless, spineless and emasculated are the polite words one can use.

Sharia from the ground upwards.

Moslems are forbidden to cremate their bodies, in the Koran fire is allah's punishment for those in islamic hell (which, oddly enough, appear to be any and all who disagreed with Muhammad).

It is, of course, true that all countries or local authorities do sometimes have to either disinter, remove or build over a handful of cemeteries or gravesites to some degree but, this is also an issue of Moslems regarding wherever their presence is (alive or dead), there is THEIR community, their possession, their land.

re: #3 Beagle

Of all the Islamic supremacist moves made in the UK so far, this one might be the most brazen and personally offensive.

Well....you can't have filthy infidels laying around, can you Beagle?

Makes perfect sense...when it comes to Islam.

~ENT

OK..... I'll repost part of that quote with a little emphasis for clarity's sake, shall I?

"With regards to Tower Hamlets Cemetery Park, there are currently no plans to re-open it as a cemetery. Councillors are fully aware that it is a popular and historic nature park and if there were any proposals to alter the look or the functionality of the Park, there would be a full consultation with interested parties."

Just that one point alone should tell you how far that idea will get. You lot, especially you lot, should know just how hard it is to fuck with the tree huggers in todays political climate.

re: #12 Broomer

Or I think the muslims are testing how far the 'red line' is and delay the fight for another day.

Red line, you say. You're not a BSG fan, are you?

re: #39 Cry of defiance and not of fear

Islamic Hell = Heaven for the rest of us?

re: #12 Broomer

There comes a day when a muslim community has pushed the dhimmis too far that the dhimmis have no choice but to organize to fight back.

May that day come sooner!

Or I think the muslims are testing how far the 'red line' is and delay the fight for another day.

There is no need for violence, Broomer.

All that the Brits have to do is start sprinkling pig blood and/or bacon bits on the cemetery grounds.

Make sure that the local Muslim newspaper see it.

Problem solved: those in charge of this idea will move on to other pastures, so to speak

" I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

Yeah, Right so you can put in your muslim graves.

re: #43 Macker

Islamic Hell = Heaven for the rest of us?

Of course it is. It's where everyone is happy and gets along for eternity.

“To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone us Muslims, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

On another little note, if memory serves me correctly, Tower Hamlets now has the largest percentage of tuberculosis-stricken peoples of any Borough in England, thanks largely to the influx of third-world illegal aliens. Not a welcoming place, either for the living or the dead.

The English in their efforts to avoid offending muslims are now facing the ultimate offense-preventitive measure required of them by their new masters: disappear without a trace.

re: #27 find your Violent Jihadi on Ebay!

The Tower Of London would be an excellent place for a new Super Mosque. It's currently occupied by a bunch of old buildings nobody uses. Not to mention it's a site that fetishizes Anglo-Saxon Norman-British domination in the middle ages, thus offending Asians and hurting their feelings. Maybe it could be called an Interfaith Center. Jews would be allowed to walk around the perimeter, on Tuesdays, between 8 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. Native English people could enter, provided they sign a document stating they will not talk or think about English history while on the premises.

Fixed it for ya.

;^)

The Tower was built by William the Conqueror, as in: conqueror of the Anglo-Saxons. At the time, one of the claims was that he was the rightful heir of King Arthur "liberating" the Celtic Britons from Anglo-Saxon domination. The myth of Arthur and his Knights as we know it was originally a reworking of Welsh myth into post-Conquest Norman propaganda to support that claim.

/geek

re: #48 Cry of defiance and not of fear

Your memory does indeed serve you well.

Tower Hamlets Public Health Report

re: #48 Cry of defiance and not of fear

On another little note, if memory serves me correctly, Tower Hamlets now has the largest percentage of tuberculosis-stricken peoples of any Borough in England, thanks largely to the influx of third-world illegal aliens. Not a welcoming place, either for the living or the dead.

Hmm, sounds like the Southwest US...

re: #23 Corwin

OK, remember that Islam is a death and moon cult. Their highest holiday (Ramadan) is based on the new moon, when it most dark, etc.

The Muslim faith has worshiped death and darkness since it's creation.

It's only natural that they want to control the cemeteries as well.

Since the very beginnings of human civilization, hunter-gatherer tribes have been Moon-god worshipers and farming tribes have been Sun-god worshipers, for fairly obvious reasons. And since that time also, violent hunter-gatherer tribes have preyed on sedentary farming tribes. Nothing has changed, really, except the technology.

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Muslims to living Brits: Covert or die!

Muslims to dead Brits: Convert or Move!

Ooh look! A new word:

Pathetic.
Why do these Human Rights and PC obsessed jobsworths always try to bend over backwards to placate the minorities?
If Muslims want their own burial site, place it elsewhere!

- Stratford, Hants.

Is that a British-ism for "clock-watcher"?

Stick a giant Christian cross on that cemetery and tell those Muslims to shod off and bury their dead elsewhere, preferably in Mecca.

re: #46 Wishbone

re: #43 Macker

Islamic Hell = Heaven for the rest of us?

Of course it is. It's where everyone is happy and gets along for eternity.

True true- Our heaven will be roughly a perfected version of America, which with its (classical) liberal values makes for Jihadi hell. Jihadi heaven will be a perfected version of the Taliban, which is basically my idea of Hell.

hmmm... i finished reading michael orens' book '6 days of war' earlier this year. he mentioned something about the jerusalem international hotel being built atop a jewish cemetary... i don't recall the details... anyone familiar with this?

"I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

Filling them, he means.

OK..... I'll repost part of that quote with a little emphasis for clarity's sake, shall I?

"With regards to Tower Hamlets Cemetery Park, there are currently no plans to re-open it as a cemetery. Councillors are fully aware that it is a popular and historic nature park and if there were any proposals to alter the look or the functionality of the Park, there would be a full consultation with interested parties."

Wishbone, as I realised when I used to post at Jihadwatch (as Interested), there are some Americans who don't realise we are on the same side, and accordingly will not let the facts get in the way of a bit of Brit bashing.

re: #6 MandyManners

Damn fucking Muslims. Go to Mecca to get buried.

know what mandy, i am with you,
i don't care what the damfucking muslims want, i am sick of them wanting everything and everyone else to have nothing, no matter who was there or what belongs to whom first. NO, not all of us will submit, you bastards.

They're constantly trying to show their superiority by taking away other religions places of worship, etc. Taking a cemetary is pretty extreme, but it fits with everything else they do.

Unless humanity has evolved over the last 60 years, a few generations after the Muslims wear out their welcome among the Europeans, it's quite possible individual Muslim graves may be a rarity.

/keep pushing them, 'cause the Europeans have no problem putting up with this crap.

re: #50 Spiny Norman
The Tower was built by William the Conqueror, as in: conqueror of the Anglo-Saxons. At the time, one of the claims was that he was the rightful heir of King Arthur "liberating" the Celtic Britons from Anglo-Saxon domination. The myth of Arthur and his Knights as we know it was originally a reworking of Welsh myth into post-Conquest Norman propaganda to support that claim.

/geek

Correct, in a way, however, William the Bastard (really he was called that by others before he was historically known as the Conqueror) had a legitimate claim to the Anglo-Saxon-controlled Wessex kingdom of England: through his great-grand-aunt, Emma of Normandy (from Richard the Fearless, Duke of Normandy) who married King Ethelred the Unready (he was called that because he was too young when he became king). Ethelred and Emma had a son, Edward the Confessor, being the last direct king of the ancient Wessex kingdom.

Wow, I knew they wanted to take over old churches (temples etc.) whenever possible, but graveyards too? This is a seriously sick and twisted slap in the face to all British non-Muslims...past and present.

There are about 30 comments at the Daily Mail now and it looks like our Brit cousins are about fed up with pc. I took heart from reading them.

When will the appeasement stop? I remember during the first Gulf War, we were told that any allied troops which were to be interred in the magic kingdom had to have some sort of special lining in the soil before they could be buried because of "local sensitivity" and the fact that they're infidels. I think we should do the same, any dead mohammedian shouldn't be buried in infidel soil and shipped back to whatever third world crap hole they came from. Heck, I'm already about to say taht for most of the living ones as well.

re: #61 curious

I know what you're saying mate, but I wouldn't say 'Brit bashing' so much, but rather an absolute inability to read and digest a statement that clears up the subject of the thread.

To wit: It ain't happening, so nothing to moan about.

Instead, the statement gets steamrollered in the rush to claim the prize for 'most gratuitous display of ignorance in a serious political blog thread.'

Gnnhh.......

re: #65 the_flying_pig

re: #50 Spiny NormanCorrect, in a way, however, William the Bastard (really he was called that by others before he was historically known as the Conqueror) had a legitimate claim to the Anglo-Saxon-controlled Wessex kingdom of England: through his great-grand-aunt, Emma of Normandy (from Richard the Fearless, Duke of Normandy) who married King Ethelred the Unready (he was called that because he was too young when he became king). Ethelred and Emma had a son, Edward the Confessor, being the last direct king of the ancient Wessex kingdom.

However, since the Anglo-Saxon "parliament", the Witan, had officially rejected his claim and appointed Harold Godwinson as King, it didn't matter what his claimed lineage was. He could have been the actual son of Edward the Confessor, and it wouldn't have mattered a hill of beans: the Anglo-Saxons did not want a Norman-French overlord under any circumstances.

It will go on until the general populace wakes up to the fact that bot PC and islam are their mortal enemies. The question is how long will the pillow of PCness smother them first? will it smother them to death or will they wake up and throw it off?

“To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

If this was a Muslim graveyard it would be declared holy. And as for dignity, the Muslim idea of dignity is killing your daughter(preferably after your brother rapes her in front of her brother) because she dated a non-cult member, as happened a few months ago in Londonstan.

We'll have to rewrite the proverb :

There is no rest from the wicked

Clearly, not even in the grave.

re: #73 Pass The Moonbaticide

PTM, read my post at #31 mate.

re: #14 Poitiers-Lepanto

Indeed. This may be the spark.

My chest got hot on this one.

To: All People of Liberty
Re: Future of Lockian-Hobbsian Pluralism

Got Ammo.

Sincerely,
Your Brother in Arms

Geeze, don't these people ever watch horror movies? Only bad things happen when you disturb the dead.

Well, y'know, the Brits haven't lit up Big Ben green for Eid yet, at least as far as I know.

"But the Labour-controlled council's environment spokesman Abdal Ullah..."

Politically incorrect profiling but, I think the name of the guy is a little clue to explain why this insane issue is even on the table.

Perhaps we should honour this champion of graveyards by making him the first client.

I am sure other lizzards will offer their expertise as to how to plant the body...

Muslims choose the sites for their mosques, cemetaries and other holy sites for the same reason that dogs urinate on trees. They are simply marking their territory. And what better way to mark ones territory than to supplant someone else's territory. That is the ONLY reason that they built the mosque on the site of the temple mount in Jerusalem.

I think there is plenty of room to plant the body of this Muslim who wants to disinter the remains of 350,000 British souls. I will even donate the money to buy a post hole digger that will more than satisfy his needs.

Hmmm. What's the expiration date on a grave?

At what point is a cemetery no longer hallowed ground?

When is it okay for a new "religion" to show up out of the blue and supplant another's customs?

Answer: Whenever muslims say so.

What is the word for "perpetuity" in Arabic? Also, what is the Arabic word for "impunity" in Arabic? "Impunity" as in "you are crazier than a shithouse rat if you think you have impunity Abdullah".

77- I think BB is turned off for repairs.

76 billhedrick- right. bad juju.

in the funeral procession for the muslims, don't they drop the casket and the "dead" get up and run a way?

The symptoms are beyond appeasement. The Brits have accepted defeat.

Would, if they could (Abdullah and his pals), pave the paths in their "new" cemetery with the headstones of the English? You betch'a, they saw a blueprint for such a path at a camp in Poland! They would like to duplicate all the facilities of that camp at new sites, wherever Islamism chooses.

From where do they get the nerve? When a cemetery is full, the community buys land somewhere else and one buries one's dead there. If one is holy one sends one's body back to the land where one has loyalty and there is no shortage of desert In S.A. that anyone would miss.
What happened to the property rights of the buried? You pay a handsome fee for a burial plot and it is yours. It is paid for. They would not bury you there if you didn't. What is this idea of taking someone's money, burying them, then chucking them and taking someone else's money? This is not kosher. You can't sell land to which someone else has a claim.

“To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

I said this the other day when this link was posted, 'how does digging up every body, preserve the respect of everybody?'

The obvious answer to these idiots is, no, go buy your own plot of land, and make your own cemetary. The callousness of the obviously Moslem government functionary is the best we could expect from an Islamic administration. Remeber they have a history of ripping up cemetaries - didn't they do that in Jerusalem to prevent Christ's second coming? They respect no one.

re: #69 Wishbone

re: #61 curious

I know what you're saying mate, but I wouldn't say 'Brit bashing' so much, but rather an absolute inability to read and digest a statement that clears up the subject of the thread.

To wit: It ain't happening, so nothing to moan about.

Instead, the statement gets steamrollered in the rush to claim the prize for 'most gratuitous display of ignorance in a serious political blog thread.'

Gnnhh.......

Uh, this is hardly settled:

Last night the council was insisting there were no plans to re-open the park as a cemetery.

"It is a popular and historic nature park and if there were any proposalsto alter the look or the functionality, there would be a full consultation with interested parties," said a spokesman.

However the council admitted it had been looking at "options" for burial sites.

And Lib Dem group leader Stephanie Eaton said she had received a letter from the council chief executive admitting the park was one of the options being considered.

I was truly just speechless when I read Charle's original post.

It is also pretty clear what is going on when all the previous graves must be removed to wake way for Moslem use.

I still can't believe this.

He means the respect and dignity for everyone who counts to them of course.

Sorry for the levity, but this reminds me so much of the hilarious old Peter Sellers song from the early 60’s (produced by George Martin, I think), entitled “Grandpa’s Grave”:

They’re removin’ grandpa’s grave to build a sewer.
They’re removin’ it regardless of expense.
They’re shiftin’ ’is remains,
To lay down sewage drains,
To satisfy the local residents.

Now what’s the use of livin’ like an angel? (Like an angel!)
If when you die yer troubles never cease? (Never cease!)
’Cause some old salty dink
Wants a pipeline fer a sink,
They won’t let poor old grandpa rest in peace. (Rest in peace!)

Ow – ow – ow – ow, mate,
Don’t excavate,
a-Don’t a-desecrate poor grandpa, ah, ah,
Oh, Fred, although ’e’s dead,
’e needs a place to rest in peace.

Every day in some way the Mohammedans chip away at the foundations of Western Civilizations. Here they are trying to literally displace the bones of our ancestors to make room for 21^st Century Sharia.

re: #79 salt1907

and now we know what they have against dogs

Brilliant comment btw

To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone

classic spin. shows no respect for the dead about to be exhumed.

And if my memory is still working, I recall seeing only recently some mention in the English (or Scottish) media that Moslems have bought a large tract of land in Scotland for a future Moslem cemetery which, in their 'reasoning' (forgive the pun), will henceforward be 'Moslem land', thus establishing their 'entitlement' to Scotland.

“To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves immigrants would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.”

Fixed it.

The British are amazing people. They are the only ones who can fall to their knees in front of Moslems while at the same time bend over backwards. There must be an Olympic sport in that somewhere.

re: #90 Tigger2005

And as I said earlier, have a look at the statement. No matter what happens, 'interested parties' would be consulted. There is no doubt whatsoever that some of those 'interested parties' would consist of a huge representation from the envoironmental lobby.

The Daily Mail article reporting the matter a few days ago, made much of the fact that one Professor David Bellamy, patron of 'Friends of Tower Hamlets Cemetery Park' and onetime TV nature boffin, had made his feelings known, subtlely, about the need to appreciate nature reserves such as the cemetary represents and leave them the fuck alone.

I'm not sure if you know this, but I'll explain a little about David Bellamy for reference. He's a botanist and just about anyone who watched TV or went to science class in British schools in the late seventies to eighties learnt more from him about insects, plants and horse shit than any teacher could impart. In short, he was damn cool and kids loved to learn shit from him.

He's a staunch and dedicated envoironmentalist and is highly respected by all the little greenies whose lives he ever touched and have now grown up and see him as an icon of the whole issue. Strange, considering he's also a global warming sceptic, but he has influence nonetheless.

Britain has it's problems and one of those, as it is in the USA and elsewhere, is that the tree-huggers and global warming nuts have so much influence in the political arena that it's bloody scary.

That lot are the least that any such proposal would be faced with. It's of interest that councillor Jones made such a measured statement so quickly in the first place. In context, it's no surprise that Eaton declared that she knew otherwise before the fact: It's a given of British politics that, any chance the 'opposition' gets, they'll take the opportunity to fuck you over in the public eye. The fact remains, however, that Jones made the original statement, which suggests damage limitation in the face of unexpected publicity and a noticeably angry reaction towards the suggestion from the public.

Can you see the 'greenies' not holding Jones to such a statement? I wouldn't count on it. They may not listen to the people any more in Britain, but the envoironmentalists certainly have their ear. The Lib-Dems are only grassing Jones up because that's what passes for political integrity here these days.

Call me cynical, but I don't believe that those who considered this wanted it to be widely reported and had to backtrack because they'd been blown out of the water in the national media.

Incidentally, my thanks for addressing my comments.

re: #97 Cry of defiance and not of fear

I daresay that one wouldn't go down well with the natives if they got too vocal about that concept. Jockinese reasoning tends to run along an entirely different track.

There will be scattered tut-tutting about this in the UK but they will continue to lay down like servile dogs for their new masters.

To my point, what are people in the UK going to actually do about this? Absolutely nothing, just like always. There will be a few mildly huffy newspaper articles in which the authors say religion is all shite anyway so, in the end, what does it matter.

The UK is done. Over. Fini.

re: #70 Spiny Norman

Very true. Even though the Anglo-Saxons didn't wanted the French-speaking Norsemen ruling them, their own political system was on the verge on collapse and times were already hard for the most folks of the Wessex kingdom. Isn't it really funny that much of Europe and England were established and settled by the Vikings between 8th and 11th centuries, influencing political, legal, social and economic matters that formed the bulwarks and foundations of modern Europe?

My nephew's family lives right near Black Heath in Kent. It's basically a huge lawn where people play soccer, fly kites, etc. It's called Black Heath apparently because there are thousands and thousands of victims of the Black Death buried there. (And not very deeply, either.)

I know nothing about epidemiology, but wouldn't that be a good reason to NOT dig up old graves? You wouldn't want to let old plague viruses out and about, no? Yuck.

That David Bellamy. When I was a kid I used to laugh at him because of the way he spoke.

That's probably not allowed now.

Wishbone - point taken. I'm sure we get a distorted view of the US too in our press. This ain't going to happen, but other things do happen and have happened so we've got to keep on the watch for them.

Disgusting. I'm shocked. Horrified. Can't even think beyond this - just so disgusted and shocked....

If a cemetery is what they want, give it to them . . .on the 18 acre property they already own in East London, marked for the Mega-Mosque next to the future 2012 Olympic Park. A muslim cemetary is improves the view from this Olympic Park and resolves parking logistics for the currently disputed plans of potentially serving up to 48,000 live Tablighi Jamaat worshippers.

re: #102 Uncle Joe

You know what Joe?...... I wish I was a bloody expert like you mate. I wouldn't have to bother doing anything like reading or thinking anymore. I'd just spout whatever shite I believed about anybody and, of course, I'd be absolutely correct.

re: #105 Curious

Well said mate, but you're preaching to the choir insofar as vigilance is concerned. As far as the media impression of the US goes, of course it's distorted. Knowing that, it's incumbent upon us to cut past all that and seek the true character of the people we aspire to friendship with. Quite a few of this lot haven't a clue and just opt for the basest of characters to assign to us as a whole, based on the barest minimum of information on the narrowest of subjects and they put it across in a manner that begs someone to let them know just how much shite they're talking.

Tonight, of all nights. it's particularly hard to keep my gob shut. England are one step closer to Euro 2008 qualification after beating Estonia in the footy and our rugby side have just put the French out in the semi finals of the world cup on their own turf. They can add that one to the long list of "things we English have done to them that they hate" alongside other such events throughout history such as Crecy, Agincourt, Mers-el-Kabir, etc....

It's hard not to feel good and belligerently 'English' on any night that sets teeth on edge all across France.

They should bury the Muslims where the belong in the London sewer system.

re: #97 Cry of defiance and not of fear

No mate you're on the wrong track. There is plans to build a muslim cemetary outside glasgow.

This is getting built near a village called Carmunnock but the inhabitants don't want it. It isn't because it's muslim but because it is being built on greenbelt land and they will lose s their status as villag. For more information read their website

I lived in New Orleans for a good part of my childhood and adult life and was raised to respect the dead. That being said, this crap would never fly in New Orleans; the first time they tried to monkey with Metairie Cemetery or any of the other historic cemeteries, some skulls would be cracked.

If the [bigoted word]s try to push this, the locals need to show up with some cricket bats and crack some skulls.

re: #108 Wishbone

To quote Mrs Bennett on the rugby result:

"That's the most heartening news since the Battle of Waterloo" (which I suspect rates highest of all in French loathing of 'perfidious Albion' since it is never, ever mentioned)

I have not read all of this thread yet, but I am absolutely fuming at the moment, if this story is true.

My father's side of my family, from way back up till the present time were and are still living in and around that area, so I will be bloody well pissed off if this is true.

Fingers set to email everyone I know who, family, friends and our poxy government officials, if this news is true.

I can not explain how angry I feel at the moment....

re: #112 Cry of defiance and not of fear

Oh, blimey!...... How could I have forgotten Waterloo? Too much of Mr Lamb's Navy rum in celebration, I fear.

No, they really don't like to mention that do they?

We do, of course. Gleefully, at every given opportunity.

There's a great opportunity for an anti-jihadi Zombie movie in this mess (alal Poltergeist meets Night of the Living Dead
Paging George Romero...).

FADE IN-

EXT. GRAVEYARD. DAY.

Dark skies and drizzle.

MUSIC: "Wild World" by Cat Stevens.

As the imams and their minions bring bulldozers and backhoes to the cemetary to begin disinterring the British dead, a crack of GREEN sheet lightning illuminates the scene for a few seconds, and a deep peal of thunder rolls across the landscape, startling everyone, including a few mackintoshed Bobbies at the edges of the gated cemetary dejectedly holding back the mournful, angry relatives of those buried within.

ECU of a tombstone, CRACKING.

(Visible Epitaph: "Leave my bones alone
Or pay to rue the day.")

PULL BACK to show a skeletal hand slithering out the wet soil, right next the ankle of the lead imam, ABU BABU. The rotting hand grabs ABU BABU's foot, and begins to pull him under the ground and into the now-opening grave.

ABU BABU
(shrieking an incongruous)
Jesus Christ!

An ululating MOAN erupts from the Muslim crowd, and, in the backround, two ZOMBIES frisklily CLIMB into a pair of idling bulldozers and throw the drivers out, running them over with the steel caterpillar treads, and HONKING their airhorns feverishly as they plow forward.

The bulldozers RAM through the assembly, flipping scores of desecraters with their steel buckets, coyly CRUSHING a BBC camera, and then the thousands of graves, going off in an infinite perspective, begin to give up their infuriated dead.

MAYHEM boils over the graveyard.

TITLES: "The Hadj From Hell

(I'm sure some lizard can think of a better title...)

But the satirical possibilities are fecund.

re: #117 buzzsawmonkey

I think that earlier flick was "2,000 Maniacs" (the band multiplied it by 5), one of my older brother's Drive-In favorites, although I've never seen it.

Agree with all the rest (in peace)!

Maybe "Insur-Resurrection"!", since "Resurrection" has already been used

I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.

Room for another 350,000 hastily dispatched infidels?

re: #120 M. Simon

My thoughts, exactly.

350,000 graves, no waiting, kaffir dogs!

It would be well worth it if we could fill it up with the world's worst Muslims right away.

Dead or alive, we're not safe from these SOGs.

I got dibs on the Elephant Man's bones!