Whores!

How do I outsmart Websense?!?

Congrats Babba!

...made glorious summer by this Duchess of Zion!

BIG BABBA IS RIPPING US OFF!

BabbaZee is the Bomb! Keep up the excellent work!

Cant get the video to work

I don't envy those who swim in the intellectual sewage that these groups generate.

"They are intentionally planning to use your poor useful idiot ass as political cover.
their sponsoring of the CounterJihad Europa conference was all about this.

They are in the process of BRANDING

If you told me this 13 days ago I would have laughed in your face.
I openly challenged everyone on LGF on it at the outset and did not want to believe it myself."

BabbaZee,

I hope you fed your hamsters.

Charles,

You're hated by Islamists, white-supremacists and Leftists!

You're obviously doing something right.

Gotta be honest. I'm not even sure why there's anything to talk about, on this particular subject. Seems to me that there's a near-unanimous opinion on these guys.

re: #1 Ben Hur

Whores!

Gramscian whores!

Excellent piece, Babba. May take days to sift through such major linkage.

Operative status: I'm impress!

Saudi uranium enrichment centers proposal doesn't attract Russia

MOSCOW, Nov 1 (KUNA) -- Russian Nuclear Power Agency Head Sergei Kiriyenko Friday called on Iran to join a Russian-based international uranium enrichment center, which should be established in countries in full possession of enrichment technologies.
Kiriyenko was referring to a Saudi proposal to establish a uranium enrichment center in a neutral country to provide uranium for nuclear reactors, including the ones in Iran. The Saudi proposal aimed at, among other things, easing concerns of the international community about the controversial Iranian nuclear program.

Websense is categorizing babbazee's website as "sex". lol
WTF?

Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.
Reason:
The Websense category "Sex" is filtered.

"A list of codewords for what these MFers are now calling themselves worldwide is edifying and necessary, I have seen these words used plenty over the last 6 years never knowing what the hidden meaning behind most of them was:

Movements calling themselves "Nationalist"

Movements using the word "Sovereignty"

Movements calling themselves "Christian Identity" and other "Identity" parties and groups

Movements going by this title: [insert country name here] FIRST!

White Nationalism (also they use WN alot)

Paleoconservative (which is why they are obsessed with the word NEOCON)

Paleolibertarian (yes we can get to Ron Paul in 3 degrees)

The Patriotic Movement

Homogeneous Ethnic Communities

"Traditionalist" movements

"America [or insert country here] Renaissance" movements

The "New Right"

Populist

"Defensive Racism" movements

White Renaissance

re: #2 Ben Hur

How do I outsmart Websense?!?

If you find out, let me know. It blocked LGF for me for two years. But a money crunch made them give it up and NOW I CAN SEE YOU ALL AGAIN! WHOOT! :)

I just see a black screen instead of the video. Something tells me the actual video is probably about as dark. Nasty folks these are...

Babbazee doesn't pull punches.
Good work.

Great. Now we mere minions have to salute Babba. I guess she'll be dining in the officers operatives mess henceforth?

/Congrats, BZ!

OT: Fox News

OT: Fox news has a report on cleric 'Dr.' Muhammad Al-'Arifi today, 1 day after Charles ran a report on him. They aht tip memri.tv. Fox news

re: #11 Cognito

Where have you been for the past two weeks?

Time to drag this out again, in case anybody missed it:

Fox to LGF: "all your story are belong to us"
Damn my posts keep getting cutoff!

re: #19 Shanimal1918

OT: Fox News

whaaaa?

Excellent work there Babba.

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

I have mountains more.
I had to stop though, I am overwhelmed.
plus if I make it too long no one can follow it.

There is so much more.

re: #14 RTLM

Maybe it's the "Gramscian whores?"

Video doesn't want to work here for some reason. I'll replace it with a link to the Google video page.

oooh ok. Kudos to Babbazee and Charles on helping us all to understand this thing.

Babba be da' bomb.

re: #11 Cognito

Gotta be honest. I'm not even sure why there's anything to talk about, on this particular subject. Seems to me that there's a near-unanimous opinion on these guys.

What fookin orifice have you had your head up? This has been a MAJOR controversy for two weeks now.

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

That's funny.

I wonder how many hits you get from people looking for pitchforks?

re: #21 MandyManners

re: #11 Cognito

Where have you been for the past two weeks?

Following along. But like I said, there seems to be very few people here who are big VB supporters. Seems like we could move on. Just my opinion and interests.

They are so sneaky, these Nazis. But the BabbaZee has turned over their rock, and now let's see them cry like little Nazi babies.

Arizona Nuclear Plant on Lockdown

PHOENIX (AP) - Security officials at the nation's largest nuclear power plant detained a contract worker with a small explosive device in the back of his pickup truck Friday, authorities said.
The worker was stopped and detained at the entrance of the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station, said U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokesman Victor Dricks. Security officials then put the nuclear station on lockdown, prohibiting anyone from entering or leaving the facility.

Authorities described the device as a small capped pipe that contained suspicious residue.

Capt. Paul Chagolla with the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office said sheriff's officials have rendered the device safe and that investigators were interviewing the worker.

Man gets beatdown by police for standing up to Illegals
Something didn't seem quite right to me about this video....
By following comments about the producers and searching the web about Dutch (ssadler)
I followed link to this:
[Link: www.newsnet14.com...]
The about page will send shivers down your spine....lots of stuff at site has been discussed here the past few days....and now....

re: #24 Owl

re: #19 Shanimal1918

OT: Fox News

whaaaa?

They're headlining the MEMRI piece on the Saudi thug who promotes husbands beating wives, which LGF picked up yesterday.

Once on my little fishing website we had a post about fish that went bad. The related ads...well....i'll leave that to your imagination, if you dare. I had to go in and get rid of the offending words.....unintended consequences indeed!

re: #33 Ringo the Gringo

I do get a lot of hits from people searching for porn, lol!

re: #32 Peacekeeper

re: #11 Cognito

Gotta be honest. I'm not even sure why there's anything to talk about, on this particular subject. Seems to me that there's a near-unanimous opinion on these guys.

What fookin orifice have you had your head up? This has been a MAJOR controversy for two weeks now.

To me it seems like we've pretty well ground it out: VB = bad.

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

Like I posted on the previous thread;
Gramisican ho of the Caliphate, just doesn't work.

Well at 1 hour and 11 minutes I don't think I have time to watch the whole thing. I will take your word for it.

{BabbaZeeeeeee!}

The video behaved the same way (did not work) at Babba's site for me. I hope it isn't a google video censorship issue.

re: #38 lawhawk

No, it's ok - I got it now - but the first post got cut off and just said ' OT: FOx News" and I was like, " uh oh, somethings going down!". whew.

OT - Happy Friday Lizards. An hour of work to go for me here on eastern time. Oh and don't forget to set your clocks back this weekend everyone!

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Great find.

re: #34 Cognito
"... there seems to be very few people here who are big VB supporters."

Now

re: #34 Cognito

LGF has readers from all over the world who are not registered Lizards. Spreading the word is more important than agreement on this vital issue.

re: #26 BabbaZee

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

If you say so. LOL - I'll have to wait til I get home and fire up the super souped up lap top...

{FISTICUS MAXIMUS}

zmdavid

I am sure Charles will figure that one out.
it plays for me at my blog fine.

I'm so sorry but I have to go.
I'll be back in a few hours.

re: #45 zmdavid
Never mind, the new link works fine.

re: #48 FightingBack

re: #34 Cognito
"... there seems to be very few people here who are big VB supporters."

Now

Exactly. Position clear, I'd say.

Not a big deal. If everybody else finds it interesting, I'll just hang out and wait for something else to roll around. I said my piece about VB and their bretheren long ago.

re: #40 BabbaZee

re: #33 Ringo the Gringo

I do get a lot of hits from people searching for porn, lol!

You do have a sexy brain.

re: #47 Cap'n DOC

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Great find.

Found it on some obscure site by name of Drudge.

Siren is blaring.

For those with websense I am not sue if it will for this but I know you can get around some blocks by going to a translation site like google and "translating" the url.

Great work Babba!

Try this link for the video:

In Flemish - not Dutch - with French subtitles. A bit too long (24 minutes) to translate it all, but I'll be happy to answer questions concerning short segments identified by the elapsed time-code.

In general, the images speak for themselves....

re: #53 Cognito

Mighty fucking big of you!

re: #49 MandyManners,

If the Jihadis can successfully get us branded as White Supremacists, they are half-way to winning. We have to police our own ranks. We'll still be called racists, but there will be no truth in the accusation.

Islam and Islamofascism (to the degree that there is any separation) is not a race.

re: #11 Cognito

There are a lot of people still in denial.

re: #59 MandyManners

re: #53 Cognito

Mighty fucking big of you!

Wow. What's up, angry?

re: #55 JammieWearingFool

re: #47 Cap'n DOC

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Great find.

Found it on some obscure site by name of Drudge.

Siren is blaring.

They are doing a piece about it on Fox right now

BabbaZEEEE!

Great work! Love you lots!

I bet you had to take a really hot shower and used about four bars of soap to clean up after wading through all that oddly spelled excrement.

re: #49 MandyManners

re: #34 Cognito

LGF has readers from all over the world who are not registered Lizards. Spreading the word is more important than agreement on this vital issue.

Absolutely. I know many in that camp.

I liked Babba better when she was a non-commissioned lizard.

/

Woot Babba!

What a world, huh?

Oh dear - you have such a way with words! LOL

They are a bunch of "Paleolibertarian" Pat Buchanan related barely concealing their upper crust elitist "white Nationalism" loony freaking Ron Paulian MFers.

re: #53 Cognito

Check out Brussels Journal, Gates of Vienna and Atlas. There are plenty of people still on board with the Nazi/White Pride thing.

Zum peeples vill not be zo pleazed mit you Babba?

re: #68 Killgore Trout

re: #53 Cognito

Check out Brussels Journal, Gates of Vienna and Atlas. There are plenty of people still on board with the Nazi/White Pride thing.

Of course there are. There's a spectrum running clear on down to Stormfront.

And we know what the people on that spectrum are all about.

re: #15 Peacekeeper

There is major sifting that needs to be done.
I consider the US a melting pot but I also want every immigrant to realize that the US was started on Judeo-Christian principals and I will fight to maintain a legal system based on the Bible rather than on Sharia. I dont care if they are Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jewish, B'hai (spelling) Buddhist, Communist (I equate it with a religion,) atheist, agnostic, etc etc etc. The US has laws and, like those who immigrated in earlier centuries, they have to adjust to our laws and not the other way around.

This doesnt make me a racist but it could be seen as being nationalistic which, thanks to these kinds of folks, makes people infer that I am a racist.

Are we giving too many minutes of fame to these people? Most of us are against an immigration policy which allows hundreds of thousand illegals to walk around the US but we are not against immigration. Most of us want the wild assed mullahs exposed as the riot and violence inciters they are and want the world to know that the true Islamists really do want to control the way you wipe your ass but we have nothing agains the man and woman in front of us at the grocery store. By giving Vlaams Blok etc the spotlight, are we giving them the ability to reach even more people who are searching for a way to fight back at what they consider to be the loss of their culture?

I, BulgarWheat, hereby nominate BabbZee, as candidate for the First Order of the Hammer of Zion!

Can I get a second?

Congratulations, BabbaZee!

re: #69 Peacekeeper

Zum peeples vill not be zo pleazed mit you Babba?

There are those that one would want to offend...

Many people have said it in the last couple of weeks: If we are sincere about not hating muslims as people but hate the Islamic ideology of intolerance, fascism, hatred of others not in your group, etc.. Why trade one group of Fascists for another?

re: #62 Cognito

Maybe you should start your own blog for people who tire of a subject shortly and move on quickly. Sound bite, ya' know.

I don't think they can pin this on Coca-Cola or McDonald's.

re: #37 allahakchew

Good catch. Having sent out the link . . .I've now got some 'splainin to do.

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

cut and paste "hos" "red lighted ladies" "pros" "women of ill repute"

although Gramscian Women of Ill Repute loses something.

I like cereal!

re: #72 BulgarWheat

Second.

A roadside bomb in Afghanistan took Tech. Sgt. Israel Del Toro's face, his hands and his career as an elite JTAC, an in-theater joint terminal attack controller summoning tactical jet strikes.

re: #78 Eowyn2

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

cut and paste "hos" "red lighted ladies" "pros" "women of ill repute"

although Gramscian Women of Ill Repute loses something.

It ain't about "Women." Anyone can be a whore.

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #62 Cognito

Maybe you should start your own blog for people who tire of a subject shortly and move on quickly. Sound bite, ya' know.

Thanks for the advice, Mandy.

re: #40 BabbaZee

re: #33 Ringo the Gringo

I do get a lot of hits from people searching for porn, lol!

That's how I first found you.

"You can't fight in here, this is the war room!"

/ comment lobbed non-directionally.

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #62 Cognito

Maybe you should start your own blog for people who tire of a subject shortly and move on quickly. Sound bite, ya' know.

Why are you hammering Cognito? geesh. ( now I guess you'll turn to hammering me, but good lordy was the F word really necessary? I mean i've seen it before and all, but holy cow....it's Friday. :) )

I, BulgarWheat, hereby nominate BabbZee, as candidate for the First Order of the Hammer of Zion!

Can I get a second?

Congratulations, BabbaZee!

#80 MandyManners
re: #72 BulgarWheat

Second!

BabbaZee, by the powers entrusted to me by Karl Rove and the All powerful.....
Zionist Cabal (which is quite a reach since I'm Lutheran) I hereby bestow upon you the First Order of the Hammer of Zion

Lizard Nation, kneel before our Hammer of Zion! Long live the Hammer!

re: #83 Cognito

Take it for what it's worth.

Babba = OPERATIVE.

ME HAPPY! EVERYBODY DANCE!

Long live lizardia!

wait...Friday starts with F, doesn't it. hmmm...i'm ready to go home. 8sigh

re: #87 BulgarWheat

"Long Live the Hammer!"

*cheers loudly*

re: #86 Owl

I read his posts as saying that he was tired of this topic, and that because of it, he thought Charles should get over it.

re: #88 MandyManners

I did.

LONG LIVE THE HAMMER. I'll drink to that! :)

re: #92 MandyManners

I see your point...but it just came off as a little harsh to me( not that you asked me, I realize that. )

re: #92 MandyManners

re: #86 Owl

I read his posts as saying that he was tired of this topic, and that because of it, he thought Charles should get over it.

Um, no. That's not what I said. Use the quote function, please, if you feel the need to expound on my comments.

Thanks.

re: #93 Cognito

re: #88 MandyManners

I did.

no dis here but you do lead with your chin sometimes

re: #94 Owl

Long live the Outraged Spleen of Zion.

L'chaim!

It's a web brawl!

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

re: #97 albusteve

re: #93 Cognito

re: #88 MandyManners

I did.

no dis here but you do lead with your chin sometimes

Right. Guess I was pretty outrageous. Especially in this hate-tinged post:

Not a big deal. If everybody else finds it interesting, I'll just hang out and wait for something else to roll around. I said my piece about VB and their bretheren long ago.

My gosh. How could people withstand such vitriol?

Longer (1h12) and probably complete version of what I posted above.

It appears to be a Belgian documentary dealing with the 'hidden face' of the Vlaams Blok - before it morphed into Vlaams Belang.

VB's white supremacist, nazi-nostalgic, racist, etc., heritage....

Perhaps they are as pure as driven snow today, but with antecedents like that, it would be a difficult transformation. Particularly since, according to what is shown in the documentary, a number of the 'old' Vlaams Blok rear guard - who have supposedly been purged from the 'new' Vlaams Belang - still have active roles in the organization.

Great stuff from Babba! Would love to see Atlas Shrugged try to respond to this, specific by specific.

re: #99 Charles

Ooooh, Rock 'Em Sock 'Em!

Little Green Footballs is one of the most influential American conservative blogs.

Damn straight!

re: #93 Cognito

re: #88 MandyManners

I did.

Long Hammer IPA

re: #100 Cognito

re: #97 albusteve

re: #93 Cognito

re: #88 MandyManners
I did.

no dis here but you do lead with your chin sometimes

Right. Guess I was pretty outrageous. Especially in this hate-tinged post:

Not a big deal. If everybody else finds it interesting, I'll just hang out and wait for something else to roll around. I said my piece about VB and their bretheren long ago.

My gosh. How could people withstand such vitriol?

I understand your pov

re: #99 Charles

Well...he didn't choose a very good quote from you, did he?

re: #99 Charles

It's a web brawl!

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

Watch the flying bottles of lambic!

I can't believe there was actually an argument about that cross on the bookshelf. I looked at the example on BZ's site and immediately recognized it as a white power thingamabob...

Fuckin' Nazis... Unreal.

10 Ringo the Gringo

BabbaZee,

I hope you fed your hamsters.

Charles,

You're hated by Islamists, white-supremacists and Leftists!

You're obviously doing something right.

Isn't there a famous quote about a man knowing he's doing well by having all the right enemies? I want to say it was Churchill, but Winston Churchill said everything good, if Teh Internets is to be believed.

Charles has this problem, and interestingly, so does Rudy Giuliani.

re: #99 Charles

It's a web brawl!

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

Brussels Journal is accusing LGF and some in the American conservative movement of unconscious, left-leaning, mushy multiculturalism, among other things. It writes about "...so called (American) conservatives, who are really economic capitalists and social Marxists. For such conservatives, even as important as George W. Bush or as useful as Charles Johnson, often harbor a tangle of unexamined liberal-egalitarian assumptions wrapped around an inner strongbox of shallow shibboleths that they haven't either the intellect or the civic courage to examine. One hopes that the knee-jerk overreaction by Charles Johnson and other American "conservatives" will yield to a more thoughtful posture. For the Western white elite's endless preoccupation with racism and perceived xenophobia, and its worship of tolerance as the supreme virtue is a deep psychosis -- Hitler's revenge -- that ought to be recognized as such"

Egalitarianism was an American value long before Nazism and Communism existed. Sheesh! have these guys ever read the Declaration of Independence?

re: #99 Charles

Wow. BRAWL. Love it. Wonder when FOX will pick this up.

re: #106 Dianna

re: #99 Charles

Well...he didn't choose a very good quote from you, did he?

I'm used to that.

Squirm
Cringe
Squirm
Cringe
Squirm
I hate Nazis.
Illinois Nazis, German Nazis, Swiss Nazis, the lot of them.
But if I need a guard dog to fight off the critters trying to get into my home, I want the meanest, nastiest, toothiest beast out there.
I don't care if, given a chance, it would bite ME too. I just want to be sure it will bite the psychopath trying to break in before he gets the chance to wipe out my family.
I don't want a cute fluffy poodle that will lick the intruder's hand then waddle off, or even a huge bulldog that will sleep through everything.
Much of the politically active, and inactive, in Europe are the fluffy poodle or the sleeping bulldog.
I reiterate my concern about the debate targeting Europe's most outspoken anti-terrorist activists: Yes, many of them have some pretty unsavory pedigrees, but there may truly be NO ONE ELSE between us and the barbarians.
While we're remembering the gruesome lessons of WWII, let's also remember the lessons of Iran and the 1979 revolution. America turned its back on an ally, the Shah. Yes, he was a thug, but what we we got afterwards was worse.

re: #111 Charles

re: #106 Dianna

re: #99 Charles

Well...he didn't choose a very good quote from you, did he?

I'm used to that.

Yeah, that CBN thing was a bit annoying all the way around. Fell into the 50-50 trap: The two sides are presented as equal, without any real thought about the issue at hand.

Filip DeWinter was born in Flanders on 11 September 1962 as Philip DeWinter.

To appear "more Flemish" he later changes the spelling of his first name to Filip.

If Charles's detractors like to refer to him as "Chuck", perhaps we should start calling Mr. DeWinter "Phil".

Hi all,

I just logged in and found the video.

My main language is French but I'm also fluent in Dutch. So, I'm currently saving the video, I will try to find a couple of hours later to translate and subtitle the video in english.

Will keep you informed.

re: #99 Charles

Who knew one little posted comment from you could spawn new terminology. "Web brawl". I like it. Sure is better that "blog war".

For such conservatives, even as important as George W. Bush or as useful as Charles Johnson, often harbor a tangle of unexamined liberal-egalitarian assumptions wrapped around an inner strongbox of shallow shibboleths that they haven't either the intellect or the civic courage to examine.

Oh, we're doing plenty of examining.

And as for intellect, it seems that the Euro-farRight is no less snobbish than the Euro-Left.

DeWinter's tendency to hang around white supremacists and neo-Nazis is well-documented (not just by Charles with the "political cesspool" appearance, but also in an article posted on DeWinter's own website!).

Its not so much that these guys love him (they are anti-immigrant, after all), but that he VOLUNTARILY associates with them.

As far as I am concerned, knowingly associating with "White Power" groups is the kiss of death.

The guy holds elected office, so he can't claim not to know better.

re: #113 Cognito

He even admits to not having read up on the subject. That's a bit ridiculous, imo. "I don't know what's going on, but here's a piece on it anyways." Of course- if he were to read up on it- he'd be reading just LGF's side for quite a while.

Hummm, just realized the video is over an hour long... May take MUCH more than a couple of hours to translate / subtitle ... Hell of a job.

re: #115 Ashamed to be Dutch

We will be in your debt. Thanks in advance.

re: #109 zmdavid

We are not egalitarians!

Equality of rights is not the same thing at all.

Egalitarian transmutes, on the question, "Is that fair?" into class warfare and confiscatory tax policy.

"Justice" is not a code-word for reverse oppression, though it is frequently used as such. "Equal rights" is so fuzzy that it codes for a remarkable number of dangerous concepts.

Paul Belien from Brussels journal who helped organize the AntiJihad conference has written for Vdare, the White supremacist site Babba mentions.....
Anti-Immigration Party Banned In Belgium

Paul Belien ...is a Flemish historian and journalist. His wife, Alexandra Colen, is a member of the Belgian House of Representatives for the Vlaams Blok

Now its easy to see why VB has included in the conference. He's still a regular contributor to the site.
From their about us page: Why VDARE.COM / The White Doe?

I have always been fascinated by the story of Virginia Dare. She was the first English child to be born in the New World,....
I planned to pay homage by bestowing her name on the heroine of a projected fictional concluding chapter in Alien Nation, about the flight of the last white family in Los Angeles. It seemed . . . symmetrical.
I was dissuaded.
But multiculturalists will be happy to know that there is always the possibility that the colonists survived, merging with the local Indians. There are fables that Virginia Dare as a young woman got involved in a love triangle with a warrior and an angry medicine man, who transformed her into a white doe.
...
So Virginia Dare could be symbolic of the coming racial nirvana that immigration enthusiasts are forced to start fantasizing about when you compel them to look at the statistical consequences of current policy.

Slightly OT
Global Incident Map
Did everybody else already know about this site? It's updated every 400 seconds with terrorism events and other suspicious activity. Click on the icons for explanations.

Good work, Babba. Did you ever get the tip jar PayPal thingy to work?

Great research, BabbaZee. Much still to be unearthed and brought into the light on this serious matter -- e.g. support for Dewinter by white supremacists such as Haider. One of the reasons this is important is because it points to a fatal flaw in the European right to which they need to respond in order to fight the jihad effectively, and not with the stream of bitter attacks and insults about Americans (well, who aren't David Duke).

re: #115 Ashamed to be Dutch

What a nic..thanks for doing that...

re: #123 Killgore Trout

That article by Belien at VDARE is linked with approval by the Holocaust-denying Institute for Historical Review:

[Link: www.ihr.org...]

(Note: the link above goes to a Google redirect page -- please don't post a direct link to the IHR here.)

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Wow. Imagine that! Charles-check out what Killgore just posted.

LGF Operative BabbaZee. Has a nice ring to it.

I salute you, Babba... Great job! It shines further light into the "cesspool."

re: #123 Killgore Trout

So Virginia Dare could be symbolic of the coming racial nirvana that immigration enthusiasts are forced to start fantasizing about when you compel them to look at the statistical consequences of current policy.

This is ugly.

re: #128 Charles

The web of connection has become pretty damn clear.

La face cachee du Vlaams Blok.

I posted it yesterday

Sometimes I feel as if I would be invisible.

re: #124 redstateredneck

I've found it useful to use the search function for today's date, so you don't waste time clicking on the same thing twice.

It is a great site!

re: #133 zuckerlilly

La face cachee du Vlaams Blok.

I posted it yesterday

Sometimes I feel as if I would be invisible.

Zuckerlilly: I appreciate your posts -- but with so many comments I simply can't follow every link. If you want me to see something you post in a comment, the best way to let me know is to use the 'Report' link in the tp line of your comment.

tp = top

Charles-did you see this:

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

re: #124 redstateredneck

Slightly OT
Global Incident Map
Did everybody else already know about this site? It's updated every 400 seconds with terrorism events and other suspicious activity. Click on the icons for explanations.

I have known about t for a long time...

Have given news to them also..

Lets you see in a broader sense all incidents..

re: #122 Dianna
I believe in equality in many, but not all, senses. I believe in equality before the law, not equality of outcome. "All men are created Equal". etc.

Egalitarian has some ugly political connotations. I never studied political science, I just think about it alot.

I will also explain in that one why the Vlaams are so pro-Israel.

They want all the Jews to run to Israel in order to get them all in one spot, to make it easier to finish them off.

re: #133 zuckerlilly

Sometimes I feel as if I would be invisible.

You tipped us off to the Bart Debie thing. I've been searching in vain to find English language articles about the specifics about what he was convicted of. Is there any chance you could get some details in English? The language barrier stinks.
I think the Bart Debie angle is very important.

re: #139 zmdavid

I think we're on the same page.

re: #82 MandyManners

re: #78 Eowyn2

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLMI think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

cut and paste "hos" "red lighted ladies" "pros" "women of ill repute"although Gramscian Women of Ill Repute loses something.

It ain't about "Women." Anyone can be a whore.

Gramscian Gigolo?

re: #137 WriterMom

Charles-did you see this:

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

Yes, and note Belien's comment immediately following:

Exceptional measure
Submitted by Paul Belien on Fri, 2007-11-02 12:49.

Yesterday evening we removed two comments from Amsterdamsky in which he spoke of "Zionists on the Israeli payroll" with regard to Little Green Footballs. We consider it an insult to Zionists to compared them to the LGF people. We have also blocked Amsterdamsky's account so that he can no longer post comments here, but this can be reversed.

I know that our readers know that we do not agree with every comment posted here. Unfortunately, the so-called "proponents of free speech" at LGF do not. They think that every opinion voiced in the comments is also ours and they attack us for it. Someone told me the other day that Charles Johnson used to be a liberal (or a "leftist" as Europeans would say) before he became a conservative. Apparently, the man still adheres to the Stalinist (or Nazi) methods of the past. One of these Stalinist (or Nazi) principles is the principle of guilt by association.

They're still distorting and attacking like crazed ferrets.

re: #140 Alouette

I think they're more practical than that. The Jews have been motivated to leave Europe by the holocaust they are no longer a genetic "threat" to the white race. Muslims don't have the motivation to leave Europe yet and are seen as the bigger threat to their race.

re: #126 Yank in the EU

I have plenty on the connection with Haider.
I will post on it in the next installment.

And thank you for everything.

re: #99 Charles

The phrase "knee jerk reaction of Charles Johnson" is utterly ludicrous, when I first read of all this your post included articles you received from them and other evidence gathered, and although you said something to the effect "it's making the hair on the back of neck stand up", your basic question was "I don't know, so I submit this to my readers, what do you all think?"

If that's a knee jerk reaction, I'm General Patton.

re: #144 Charles

We consider it an insult to Zionists to compared them to the LGF people.

I'd be interested to see if Paul Belien would say that to my face. We'd have to settle it like men.

BabbaZee,

Wow! That is an excellent survery of the subject.

Nazi is as Nazi does. VB and their ilk are anathema.

re: #125 ec marm

Yes I did, lol ...and thanks

And thanks everyone here who has posted kind and congratulatory words to me.

re: #148 Yank in the EU

...We'd have to settle it like men.

that would take two men... & I only see one. Belien's weasle tactics are unworthy of a man.

re: #140 Alouette

yup.
among other things.

I have to leave
I am just popping into this thread between cooking.

BBL

In the U.S. this will have more of an influence on the illegal immigration issue than the jihad issue. It appears some people really are anti-Mexican and anti-legal immigration.

re: #144 Charles

WTF ~ what a contortionist - that's so...infuriating!

re: #133 zuckerlilly

Remember what I said yesterday?

It's an honor to post alongside of you, Zuckerlilly.

There will always be a spot in my foxhole for you.

STILL
HERE,
R

Notice that Belien is now accusing me of being a Stalinist and a Nazi.

re: #140 Alouette

It is also part of what Babba has rightly called their American branding campaign. For true Christians-support of Israel is a real litmus test. It is part of the false front, the image improvement...but the motives are definitely as you described.

#143 CyanSnowHawk

re: #82 MandyManners

re: #78 Eowyn2

re: #26 BabbaZee

Gramscian Gigolo?

Just a (Gramscian) Gigolo!

re: #157 Charles

Notice that Belien is now accusing me of being a Stalinist and a Nazi.

His therapist would call that a paranoid projection.

Lurking faith, are you still around?

If so, drop me an e-mail.

re: #157 Charles

Yes, but consider it a compliment.

I may need to make that comment into a post, along with a link to his article for VDARE and some background information on that site, and a note about the IHR's approval.

re: #157 Charles

I'm still trying to figure that one out.

Is this an extension of the line that we stupid Americans are economic capitalists and social Marxists? Like a bad beef wellington: The worst of both worlds, with an extra layer of unsophisticated thuggery as a puff-pastry shell? (Or had they thought of that one yet?)

re: #157 Charles

The responses against LGF have continuously degenerated day by day. Everytime we see through the BS or fact-check their distortions, they just become more and more angry (and less coherent).

Reading between the lines, there is a lot of pure rage eminating from the VB defenders.

re: #141 Killgore Trout

re: #133 zuckerlilly

Sometimes I feel as if I would be invisible.

You tipped us off to the Bart Debie thing. I've been searching in vain to find English language articles about the specifics about what he was convicted of. Is there any chance you could get some details in English? The language barrier stinks.
I think the Bart Debie angle is very important.

The only english article I have is wiki

On 31 May 2006 former chief of police Bart Debie was sent to criminal court. Mr. Debie is now a security expert and parliamentary cooperator of the party, and will be the party's main candidate in the local elections of 2006 in the Borgerhout district. Debie is being prosecuted for "torturing suspects at a police station, breach of the 1981 law on racism and xenophobia and forgery of police reports," acts committed on several occasions between February 1999 and April 2003. Mr. Debie’s defence argues that he is the victim of a reckoning. Debie resigned his commission as chief of police after a preventive suspension for "blurring of moral standards" due to these allegations, and was consequently given his present party functions.[43]

re: #165 Truumax

Of course there is...

They spent years, possibly as much as decades, planning this hi-jacking/re-branding.

Over the course of the last week, we've exposed them for what they are, destroyed all of their plans, and mocked them at every step along the way.

JUST
REWARDS,
R

Stalinist or Nazi, hmm? They're trotting out the big guns now. I'd say you're doing something right.

Great work Operative BabbaZee and thank you Charles for bringing light to this mess. It certainly is a clarifying situation. In my mind there is no rationalizing or explaining away their racism as pride. Its pure hate. The longer their explanations are, the stupider they sound to me.

Something tells me this is going to get way worse before it gets any better but I'm with Charles for the long haul. The Supremacists will make the West's fight against Islamic radicalism even tougher because normal people will never align with anything they promote so they will either sit on the sidelines or worse yet, work against us.

Its lizards vs chameleons. Bring it on.

I'm getting excited! Babba seems to be baking some nice fresh chocolate chip cookies!

Babba

Terrific piece. I'm not surprised about the Neo-Nazi, White Supremist involvment. You've posted about the Bund. I don't think most Americans know about them, how they had a massive rally just before WWII in Madison Square Garden with their Nazi flags. There has always been vermin, always.

The last remaining African American who won four gold medals at the 1936 Olympics, John Woodruff, has died. He was 92 years old. When he returned from Germany he was Captain of the University Of Pittsburgh track team. He was told he could not travel with the team to compete at Anapolis because there "wasn't any accomodations for Negro athletes."

It wasn't until last year that the Chancellor of the University of Pittsburgh invited Mr. Woodruff back to the University and issued a formal apology.

Neo Nazi's want to take us back to this time. No Conservative wants this to happen. If only the Left would join the Right on condemning all extremists, Left and Right.

re: #163 Charles

Charles-I just took another peek. He has put a picture of some homosexual men kissing along with quoting your e-mail from Bruce Bawer, under the title "Is This What It's All About". It's a disgusting attempt to obfuscate the issues even further.

re: #167 Render

I wouldn't put it quite so conspiratorically, but one thing is sadly true; anti-immigrant/neo-nazi/"extreme right"/nationalist parties are the groups who have gained the most from 9/11 and the WoT. It has granted them legitimacy and friendship to a degree that they could never have gotten before that day.

re: #169 mich-again

lizards vs chameleons

More like Lizards Vs Slugs.

Paul Belien has really disappointed me. I used to read Brussels Journal a few times every week.

re: #144 Charles

re: #137 WriterMom

Charles-did you see this:

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

Yes, and note Belien's comment immediately following:

Exceptional measure
Submitted by Paul Belien on Fri, 2007-11-02 12:49.

Yesterday evening we removed two comments from Amsterdamsky in which he spoke of "Zionists on the Israeli payroll" with regard to Little Green Footballs. We consider it an insult to Zionists to compared them to the LGF people. We have also blocked Amsterdamsky's account so that he can no longer post comments here, but this can be reversed.

I know that our readers know that we do not agree with every comment posted here. Unfortunately, the so-called "proponents of free speech" at LGF do not. They think that every opinion voiced in the comments is also ours and they attack us for it. Someone told me the other day that Charles Johnson used to be a liberal (or a "leftist" as Europeans would say) before he became a conservative. Apparently, the man still adheres to the Stalinist (or Nazi) methods of the past. One of these Stalinist (or Nazi) principles is the principle of guilt by association.

They're still distorting and attacking like crazed ferrets.

I've got a headache. Geez.

BabbaZee honey, you ROCK!

re: #172 WriterMom

re: #163 Charles

Charles-I just took another peek. He has put a picture of some homosexual men kissing along with quoting your e-mail from Bruce Bawer, under the title "Is This What It's All About". It's a disgusting attempt to obfuscate the issues even further.

Wow. The hate is really starting to flow over there.

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

re: #180 Charles

Good Lord!

re: #166 wahabicorridor

From what I can tell he was convicted this spring of the beatings (we need more details) but acquitted of the racism charge. He was sentenced to 3 years and $15,000 fine. The Prosecution appealed (which I guess they can do over there) so he's still free. We need more details about what exactly he did, how many times and to whom.

He does have a creepy post up on his blog: Bart Debie

Notice the graphic of the policeman with gun drawn....

I'll Kick Your Ass and Get Away With It

He's a very unsavoury character and was instrumental in putting together the AntiJihad summit. We just need more details.

Babba,

A healthy dose of skepticism is not a weakness but a strength. Rash judgments generally lead to eating shit sandwiches later on down the line.

Thank you for the yeoman's work - one of LGF's finest and one of my favorites. Your work has convinced me Filip DeWinter and the Vlaams Belang no ally in fighting the good fight.

re: #179 Charles

It's turned up to 11.

re: #135 Charles

thank you Charles, I didn't know for what the "report"-button was (shame on me)

Did you know that you are "pampered failed liberal to the core" and that you cant "defend his neighbors or himself and no damn wonder he hates conflict, profanity, defiance, optimism, self-reliance and fact-checking!"?

There is a lot more (duck run and hide ;-)

#141 Killgore Trout

You tipped us off to the Bart Debie thing. I've been searching in vain to find English language articles about the specifics about what he was convicted of. Is there any chance you could get some details in English? The language barrier stinks.
I think the Bart Debie angle is very important.

I posted it some days ago: Debie was convicted of cruelty (mostly against immigrants), fabrication of police protocolls and exaggerated use of violence.

Debie excused himself with the words "I only cleaned the trash areas of the town". His comrades in the police called him "Bart penalty" (b'cause he hit so hard) and the friends from the VB called him robocop.

Re: 99

Brussels Journal asserts the Charles is a "social Marxist" even while he is an "economic capitalist"? Hmm, if I had any lingering doubts about the bad faith of at least one of Charles's opponents, they have just been thoroughly dashed.

re: #157 Charles

Notice that Belien is now accusing me of being a Stalinist and a Nazi.

simultaneously? Cool ;-)

BabbaZee

{Bussi} great work.

re: #185 zuckerlilly

Is there any chance you find a good article from a reputable news source and translate it for us?

re: #185 zuckerlilly

That site is disgusting and they make it their mission to discredit Charles, twisting posts of his and copy pasting posts from here and taking it there to ridicule.

We call them stalker blog 2 around here...er sb2 works.

re: #180 Charles

Well, they don't have to look, do they? Honestly, what is the matter with people?

re: #156 Render

re: #133 zuckerlilly

Remember what I said yesterday?

It's an honor to post alongside of you, Zuckerlilly.

There will always be a spot in my foxhole for you.

STILL
HERE,
R

don't make me blush ;-)

re: #78 Eowyn2

re: #26 BabbaZee

RTLM

I think I probably get filed under SEX because of all the times I write "whores" there?

cut and paste "hos" "red lighted ladies" "pros" "women of ill repute"

although Gramscian Women of Ill Repute loses something.

I prefer Gramscian Hos. That's probably how some of our gangsta rappers would say it. It has a nice ring to it.

Wow, it's amazing how many of our so called allies are ending up on the list of Gramscian Hos. But that's a good thing. We don't need a bunch of white supremicists on board.

re: #185 zuckerlilly

AAARGGHH! Going to GCP is barely a step above LGF Watch... please sanitize your browser ASAP!

re: #189 Killgore Trout

re: #185 zuckerlilly

Is there any chance you find a good article from a reputable news source and translate it for us?

reputable source is there

actually I'm working, cant say when I'll find time for the translation.

re: #152 BabbaZee

re: #140 Alouette

yup.
among other things.

I have to leave
I am just popping into this thread between cooking.

BBL

BabbaZee,
Great work but I have couple of questions ....
what are you cookin' ? How do you have time?
More Grilled Gamey Gramscian Buttocks or perhaps the more flavorsome Divine Diced & Deviled DeWinter?

re: #193 marwan's daughter

Gramscian Hos?

Just make sure you don't make it Gamscian Hous.

Hous would be offended and I might have to issue a Fatwa from my cave here in the darkest deepest area of the Hindu Kusch.

We need to build bridges between conservatives, democrats & liberals if we are to win the war with Islamofascism. This must become a mainstream issue. That won't happen if the right is hijacked by a "tiny minority" of white racists, just as the left has been hijacked by Marxists.

re: #190 Highrise

re: #194 NY Nana

what I don't understand is: how long is it that they parted from lgf and they are still obsessed with lgf and especially Charles? This is a kind of infantile hate.

re: #180 Charles

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

OMG My jaw is still in the dropped position....

re: #99 Charles

It's a web brawl!

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

Hmm, in that little blurb, by his choice of quotes (of lack thereof) and descriptors, I think we can see which side Dale Hurd is leaning towards.

re: #157 Charles

Notice that Belien is now accusing me of being a Stalinist and a Nazi.

Why do I get the feeling the Belien is projecting his own attitude?

re: #179 Charles

re: #172 WriterMom

re: #163 Charles

Charles-I just took another peek. He has put a picture of some homosexual men kissing along with quoting your e-mail from Bruce Bawer, under the title "Is This What It's All About". It's a disgusting attempt to obfuscate the issues even further.

Wow. The hate is really starting to flow over there.

The mask fell rather dramatically, no?

re: #185 zuckerlilly

re: #135 Charles

Did you know that you are "pampered failed liberal to the core" and that you cant "defend his neighbors or himself and no damn wonder he hates conflict, profanity, defiance, optimism, self-reliance and fact-checking!"?

There is a lot more (duck run and hide ;-)

Those poor obsessed people are sad and pathetic, and not worth one nanosecond of time.

re: #148 Yank in the EU,

I'll second you on that.

re: #180 Charles

You know your over the target when......

re: #37 allahakchew

I saw your post on this (on the other thread) but got distracted and moved on to reading the other posts, and forgot to respond. :)

The incident itself is still sickening to me. It's sickening also, that those filming it were racists, but in my opinion, the illegals who were calling him names and vandalizing his car were also racists. If it had been an American of Mexican descent who was giving the finger to the white power bastards, it would have been just as horrible for the police to drag him out of the car and push his face into the concrete for flipping them off. And for anyone to have to endure his car being vandalized right there in front of the cops and for them to do nothing, is wrong. To me, this was not about color, it was about citizens vs. non-citizens, and the fact that our police chose to hassle the citizen and not the illegals.

Just mho, but thank you for the link/follow up. Good catch!

Note that she was very skeptical about my misgivings when she started researching the Vlaams Belang.

The thing is BabbaZee is one of those real people who are unafraid to look straight into the sun. It is her skepticism which allows her to seek truth and never ever be afraid to speaking it.

Follow the links and learn more about why I’m taking this stand, despite the ongoing vilification.

Being vilified is part and parcel for those who dare seek truth. Small price to pay in the whole scheme of things for those like yourself willing to search it out. After all, what we yearn for is truth (at any and all costs) for truth will surely set us all free.

Earlier today I wrote:

Hakarat ha'emet

....May we acknowledge truth.

Be'koach v Emet

.....May courage and truth come to the forefront of our lips, our actions and our being

It is our obligation to wipe out lies for a lie is like a weed which left untouched will suck the life out of ones garden.

re: #190 Highrise

re: #185 zuckerlilly

That site is disgusting and they make it their mission to discredit Charles, twisting posts of his and copy pasting posts from here and taking it there to ridicule.

We call them stalker blog 2 around here...er sb2 works.

What the hell is the matter with them anyway!?! It's time some of them put the hash pipe away and looked in a mirror.

re: #199 zuckerlilly

Over a year, Zuckerlilly, and they keep getting worse. And when Charles bans someone here?

/Guess where the first place they go is?

There are some who post at both places; incomprehensible.

They seem to be stopped at a Grade 6 level. Sad.

re: #200 allahakchew

re: #180 Charles

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

OMG My jaw is still in the dropped position....

Mine too. If you read the comments, some of them are downright nasty. And here I thought Mr. Belien was an ally. I thought wrong.

re: #211 Honorary Yooper

Now what?
They hate Charles so bad they are willing to defend white supremacists?
WTF?

You know, all this breaks my heart. I have admired - and still do - the tremendous work Belien and Fjordman have done in Europe. And I am not unsympathetic to the arguments that culturally Europe is profoundly different from the U.S. (believe me, I already knew that!), and that pairing up with scum like DeWinter is the only game in town. Charles' contention that the association w/racial supremists will only tar the anti-jihadi movement with a bad brush is certainly true for the U.S. In Europe, I'm not so sure. You don't have to scratch too far below the surface to run into the 'blood will out' premise.

But given that, I still wish they would at least TRY. They wouldn't be the first to fight the good fight. There's a book just out I hope will be translated to English soon. It's by Joachim Fest, the German holocaust historian.

As Fest makes clear, nobody in Berlin in 1940 was listening to radio call-in shows debating whether the invasions of France and Poland were morally acceptable.

Rather: One night, Fest overheard his mother asking his father, the Roman Catholic, Prussian nationalist, and friend of Jews, can't you join the Nazi Party? We won't really be changing, she said, and lying is how little people have always dealt with the powerful.

"We are not little people," Fest's father shot back. "Not on this subject!"

Others Will Betray You. Not I.

re: #212 hous bin pharteen

re: #211 Honorary Yooper

Now what?
They hate Charles so bad they are willing to defend white supremacists?
WTF?

They seem to be doing exactly just that. Disgusting creatures, IMHO. Even LGF Watch doesn't hate Charles that much that they would support Nazis. Maybe there's a good reason they are no longer welcome here.

re: #207 gop_patriot

re: #37 allahakchew

I saw your post on this (on the other thread) but got distracted and moved on to reading the other posts, and forgot to respond. :)

The incident itself is still sickening to me. It's sickening also, that those filming it were racists, but in my opinion, the illegals who were calling him names and vandalizing his car were also racists. If it had been an American of Mexican descent who was giving the finger to the white power bastards, it would have been just as horrible for the police to drag him out of the car and push his face into the concrete for flipping them off. And for anyone to have to endure his car being vandalized right there in front of the cops and for them to do nothing, is wrong. To me, this was not about color, it was about citizens vs. non-citizens, and the fact that our police chose to hassle the citizen and not the illegals.

Just mho, but thank you for the link/follow up. Good catch!

Yes, you are right that the police did absolutely nothing to stop it!
It just peeves me that this video comes from a scum source...I read his comments on the forum at the link I posted...shower time...

re: #209 Honorary Yooper

They cannot even comprehend just how evil they were the night they were finally banned, and before..I have the threads, but will not post them. They were insulting Charles, and the consummate bully and Jew hater, Rayra, was telling Charles how to run LGF. incredible. IIRC, it was the largest banning since I have been posting here.

They have come back as sockpuppets, but Charles catches them.

That flog™ started out with good intentions; it was after a banned poster took donations and goods from a lot of us, as a Katrina relief donation..that went straight into his pockets. Charles asked us rightfully to take it off of LGF, and then, after the furor quieted, the woman who set up the blog tried to make it a news site..but it evolved into a hate site, directed at Charles, and keeps on digging lower. I posted there and left July 4^th of '06...and when I get emails with their shit? I shudder. I look at it, and they keep sinking. I hear they have a secret section that you have to register to read..and post. They save their worst hate for there.

I cannot imagine that they could post worse shit than they already do, and there are traitors here who carry posts there from LGF, BTW.

Okay, so I'm believing a lot of this evidence and seeing that this is a nasty, nasty thing. and not that surprising. there are a lot of white supremacist groups in California that try to jump on the anti-illegal-immigration issue and associate themselves.

I think Tom Tancredo is one of the good guys though...is he ending up associated because he is trying to bring all the anti-immigration groups to the forefront? I hope so, he is a really good guy and a sane voice in California. And NOT a Ron Paul loony.

re: #211 Honorary Yooper

re: #200 allahakchew

re: #180 Charles

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

OMG My jaw is still in the dropped position....

Mine too. If you read the comments, some of them are downright nasty. And here I thought Mr. Belien was an ally. I thought wrong.

I read the comments and yes they are nasty. They also are challenging us to post there and all I can do is say "HI" to them.. I don't need to post there they are reading here.....teh...

re: #217 noraono

Okay, so I'm believing a lot of this evidence and seeing that this is a nasty, nasty thing. and not that surprising. there are a lot of white supremacist groups in California that try to jump on the anti-illegal-immigration issue and associate themselves.

I think Tom Tancredo is one of the good guys though...is he ending up associated because he is trying to bring all the anti-immigration groups to the forefront? I hope so, he is a really good guy and a sane voice in California. And NOT a Ron Paul loony.

No, I don't put Tancredo in with this bunch.

New post now up about Belien's disgusting attack on Bruce Bawer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and me.

re: #214 Honorary Yooper

That is truly sad.

re: #216 NY Nana

Yeah, I read the threads from The Friday Night Massacre. They reaped what they sowed. Now it's time for them plce thier hash pipes and crack pipes on the shelf and move on. But, they won't. I even saw a New Improved banned poster there. Improved my aunt fannie.

Thanks Charles.

re: #218 allahakchew

I'm tempted to post there just for the sheer thrill of it. See what they say, and see if I can draw out any more of their vitriol. See who these folks really are.

There are still unanswered questions. Personally, I'd like to know more about who organized the Counter Jihad Conference (some names are there, including Party members of the Vlaam Belong, etc), and who did the invites? Then, I'd like to know -- how much did contributors know?...(What does Bat Ye'or have to say?) Next, I'm wondering now about "the transcripts." I'd still like to read them..(I can't get a link to that website which said it'd be presenting the transcripts -- Counter Jihad Europa). (This whole mess, btw, has really, really sullied things -- when I read things now, in the back of my mind is -- "Is this being written from the perspective of a White Supremacist?" I'm feeling like "something's broken and it can't be fixed...")

re: #180 Charles

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

two words: simple disgusting.

With BabbaZee's outstanding compilation of evidence against VB, the bj is getting more desperate and talking more trash by the day. There's not much they can say in defense of VB anymore now that there is an abundance of evidence condemning them, so the bj has resorted to calling Charles names, like "Nazi" and "Stalinist." I commend Charles for not sinking to their level of trash talk and personal attacks. Oh, and "repugnant" is not talking trash, it's an accurate evaluation.

re: #220 Charles

New post now up about Belien's disgusting attack on Bruce Bawer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and me.

if you are that covered and stalked with hate by that neofascist, than you know you are the good guy. Be proud of it.

re: #222 Honorary Yooper

re: #216 NY Nana

Yeah, I read the threads from The Friday Night Massacre. They reaped what they sowed. Now it's time for them plce thier hash pipes and crack pipes on the shelf and move on. But, they won't. I even saw a New Improved banned poster there. Improved my aunt fannie.

Surface appearances are so superficial, aren't they? Do you still shudder reading the 2 threads?

Improved? They can't, as they are permanently stuck on stupid. It is well over a year, for goodness' sake...

I'm proud to say that I am a target..and they lie through their rotten teeth. They deserve each other. When Rayra and Sarah D go after me, I know I must be doing something right!

re: #216 NY Nana

Wow nelly!
Stop the damn train!

Was not their WHOLE argument at that time that Charles did not ban a certain poster because she made genocidal statements?
Now they are siding with neo-Nazi's? The one's who caused the term to be coined in the first place?
Man, does that put a lie to that argument.

re: #229 NY Nana

re: #222 Honorary Yooper

re: #216 NY Nana

Yeah, I read the threads from The Friday Night Massacre. They reaped what they sowed. Now it's time for them plce thier hash pipes and crack pipes on the shelf and move on. But, they won't. I even saw a New Improved banned poster there. Improved my aunt fannie.

Surface appearances are so superficial, aren't they? Do you still shudder reading the 2 threads?

Yeah, I do. They deliberately attacked Charles (and many others) that night.

Improved? They can't, as they are permanently stuck on stupid. It is well over a year, for goodness' sake...

I'm proud to say that I am a target..and they lie through their rotten teeth. They deserve each other. When Rayra and Sarah D go after me, I know I must be doing something right!

Heh. :-)

re: #230 hous bin pharteen

re: #216 NY Nana

Wow nelly!
Stop the damn train!

Was not their WHOLE argument at that time that Charles did not ban a certain poster because she made genocidal statements?
Now they are siding with neo-Nazi's? The one's who caused the term to be coined in the first place?
Man, does that put a lie to that argument.

Yeah, it really blows some major holes in their argument against those posters who made genocidal statements and comments.

Note to the GCPer's, if you side with the Nazi-esque folks, you are only siding with those you railed against. Bunch of hypocrites.

re: #232 Honorary Yooper

I guess it was nothing but a personal beef.

re: #124 redstateredneck

Slightly OT
Global Incident Map
Did everybody else already know about this site? It's updated every 400 seconds with terrorism events and other suspicious activity. Click on the icons for explanations.

GREAT SITE, btw! They perform an excellent service and they are looking for financial backing. Can any Lizardoids help?

re: #219 Charles

re: #217 noraono

Okay, so I'm believing a lot of this evidence and seeing that this is a nasty, nasty thing. and not that surprising. there are a lot of white supremacist groups in California that try to jump on the anti-illegal-immigration issue and associate themselves.

I think Tom Tancredo is one of the good guys though...is he ending up associated because he is trying to bring all the anti-immigration groups to the forefront? I hope so, he is a really good guy and a sane voice in California. And NOT a Ron Paul loony.

No, I don't put Tancredo in with this bunch.

I want to emphasize that NOT everyone who is against illegal immigration, or who wants to cut back on immigration in general, has racist motives.

Only slightly off-topic - this also has to do with neo-Nazism in Europe:

CBS News Showbuzz: Jews, Serbs Protest Croatian Rocker's Tour, Singer Marko Perkovic's Song References Pro-Nazi Regime

TheStar.com: Croatian rock star canned, Marko Perkovic was to perform in Toronto this weekend but controversy about Nazi references in his act has prompted Kool Haus to cancel show

Globe and Mail: Singer plans secret concert, Croatian band fears demos after Wiesenthal Center denounces songs

MSNBC: Ire at concentration camp concert

re: #225 J.S.

Quite a few of the reports from the participating representatives of each country in Europe are now up at the Counterjihadeuropa Conference site and also Bat Ye'or and Robert Spencer's speeches:

[Link: www.counterjihadeuropa.wordpress.com...]

re: #237 Cry of defiance and not of fear

Yes! Thank you, Cry of defiance and not of fear, for providing that link. Now I can read what was said, etc. (Some videos, I note, haven't been made public...probably to protect the presenter..also -- the Vigilant Freedom group? -- I wonder -- who are they?)

Hi all,

I'm currently watching the video, it's just horrifying...

I fear it's going to take to much time to write the subtitles to translate this, I know this for a fact as I have a little experience doing this... I translated the "undercover UK mosques" in French and it took me over half an hour for each translated minute... Al my free time for week or so...

So, I'll try to translate the audio ("speaking" the translation) but think it's worth to seek a "voice changer" for this. My French/Dutch accent would be to easy to recognize... It may be useful (and safe) to keep myself "unknown" in future operations... (Not that I'm a paranoid but ...)
Charles knows my real name.

Charles or anyone knows of a "voicechanger" app for OS X ?

re: #239 Ashamed to be Dutch

You should not be ashamed to be anything
and thanks

re: #239 Ashamed to be Dutch

I assume that in making a translation you'll likely write things down first...

As of last week, Apple had a text to audio file Applescript posted at: http://www.apple.com/applescript/macosx/text2audio .html

However, the page is gone now. There is a built in utility to read text. I'm sure you can find a program to record this (or just use a line-out and record the line-in in something like Garageband). iMovie should be good enough to split the audio and insert appropriately in the video file.

re: #241 ophidian

If you're not afraid of the terminal, see the page on the command "say". This will let you take text to an audio file.

re: #99 Charles

It's a web brawl!

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

Wow, I wonder how Christian Broadcasting Network picked up on the story. Anyway, they give the links with suggestions to check both sides for oneself, and the truth is out. Gratitude to Charles, as always.

re: #201 Spiny Norman

Caution.

re: #241 ophidian

re: #239 Ashamed to be Dutch

I assume that in making a translation you'll likely write things down first...

I found somethingthat should act as a "voice changer", it's called "VoiceCandy".

I will buy it and give it a try

As for the written translation I usually use Miyu. It works fine and you "type as you watch / translate". This is the method I'd like to avoid, too time consuming.

Hey Charles - this is just incredible work by BabbaZee and promotion to Operative is clearly called for.
I can't thank Babba or You enough for wading through this muck, taking hits from former friends, and still standing tall. This is truly invaluable material.
Gee, I wonder if the Gates of Vienna people will even look at this or if they're still in the middle of denial (and I don't mean the river).
Some folks truly owe you apologies; what's said at Brussels Journal about you and us is a true disinformation effort and, when it's through, if it ever really is, when you and Babba and others have completed your on-going investigations, not only will we be proved correct, but I'll be extremely disappointed if Fjordman hasn't seen the light.

I don't have time to wade through all of our comments here. I there anyone who can explain why the VB Phlegms are supposed to be bad guys, other than socialists calling them nazis? Some kind of three degrees of separation from Pat Buchanan and the people at Vdare? Looks like they want their own country run by their own people; you know, tribal sovereinty. Explain to me in English (Nahollo) how that's bad. I guess prefering one culture over another is racist?

Wonderful work!

... and regrettably another indirect reminder of the abject failure of the MSM to inform the public.

re: #230 hous bin pharteen

If Charles says it is Friday, they will say it's Monday...there is no true passion about a subject, and usually it is just endless quoting of another post, and making small talk, totally repetitive blathering...but if is a chance to go after Charles? They go on, and on, and on, like a pack of pit bulls.

It was AI they went after, I believe. Heck, I couldn't stand her, but if you were to post there about their hypocrisy? You would be savaged...but then you would not post there in the first place!

re: #232 Honorary Yooper

They are the founders and charter members of Hypocrites & Haters 'R' Us™

Babba, it was worth while. And I know it was a long trip.

Babba I left a comment on your blog with an idea , maybe you can be so kind as to PM me if you get a chance.

BabbaZee, all,

Bad news...

Sorry all, I have to give up the translation...

Even translating the original audio and subtitles with English audio only is to time consuming. I don't have the necessary soft, hardware or time (time is the biggest problem).

If this translation would be of a critical importance I could have done it with some friends help.

I'm pretty sure we already have enough evidence, this video is only another brick falling from the "respectability" wall of the VB, the hole is now so huge even the USS Nimitz could go through ...

I already said I'm fluent in French and in Dutch / Flemish, I watched the whole thing and can say that it's more than disturbing :

The documentary shows enough evidence (video etc) to prove beyond any doubt that the whole Vlaams Belang "board" is full of real nazis !
When I say real nazis I really mean REAL nazis, not stupid (but dangerous) little brainwashed and misinformed kids ... There is no more room for any reasonable doubt. Those who think we should ally with or try to "minimize" the story and the connections between the VB and nazis are just a bunch of fools.

Those who want the battle against islamization of Europe to succeed should distance themselves from the VB as far and fast as possible and create or join another party (if it exists in Belgium ?).
If they don't, the morality and credibility of the whole fight against islam may be in serious jeopardy, and not only in Europe.

Thanks BabbaZee, great job !

Sorry again to those who where waiting for the translation...

Well done BabbaZee.

For years I've listened to people who warned about the future rise of a radical right wing ideology in Europe. The future is here, and it's name is Vlaams Belang.

I can't believe anyone on our side would defend these blatant racists or any person associated with them.

re: #247 neshobanakni

Belgian VB is less than one degree of separation from British BNP. British BNP is for all intents and purposes the British branch of the American KKK/Stormfront.

Does that help?

EXPLAIN,
R

re: #238 J.S.

#238 J.S. :

[Link: www.vigilantfreedom.org...]

re: #254 Ashamed to be Dutch

Thank you very much for even wanting to try.