He's a dangerous man.

Um....Ron Paul and the Neo-Nazis agree on almost everything, and well, the nukes are only going to kill Jews...so....

why is this a surprise really?

this guy could get us all killed...he lives in a rose colored fishbowl

A whole thread about Ron Paul? This has to be the drinking thread

Ron Paul!

kinda the inverse of martin sheen's character in The Dead Zone (movie)

It’s a good thing this moonbat has less than zero chance of getting the nomination.

But he's got the internet all sewn up!
The nomination is next.

/moonbat loon, off
Heh

"Um, Mr. Paul ...Woodrow Wilson just phoned in. He says you stole his foreign policy, and he'd like it back."

“I wouldn’t do that much about it”.

"..of course not. With me in the White House, there'd be no Blowback"

Ah good. I was thinking what this site needed was more hate mail from Ron Paul fanatics...

He's just another nut. What makes him dangerous is the numbers of people that want to follow him and get him into power.

Interesting that he speaks Democrat talking points. Maybe he should challenge Hillary, Obama, and the Breck Girl for the Democrat nomination instead. He might actually have some support that way.

Re: #4 Kragar

And wouldn't you know it, I gave up drinking for Lent and haven't touched a drop since. Damn. I may have to have an honorary shot just for this thread.

comment from Hot Air...
"I don't want to be saved!"
hahaha

re: #5 Son Of The Godfather

Gesundheit.

Re: #11 Pope

... like lemmings leaping off the cliffs, so go the days of Paul-bots lves ...

Is Ron Paul supposed to be the plucky comic relief referred to in Galaxy Quest?

Charles, who did you piss off this time?

You can tell who doesnt have a job and still living in his mommy's basement, can't you Skunky - This turd is a typical Ron Paul supporter

Who cares if Iran gets nukes -- they'll only use it to kill 'da joooz.

As the 1970s quote goes, "one nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day".

Personally, I'm convinced that he's not from this planet.

Re: #17 aunursa

I'd prefer he be Ensign Ricky in the Family Guy Star Trek spoof.

Kirk -- "The away party will consist of me, Dr. McCoy, Mr. Spock, and Ensign Ricky."

Ensign Ricky -- "Dammit! I don't want to die."

re: #19 Globular Cluster

Who cares if Iran gets nukes -- they'll only use it to kill 'da joooz.

fine...then albusteve is a Jew

I enjoy seeing the occasional Ron Paul for President lawn sign in my town. It makes it so much easier to tell where the village idiots live....

Charles,

I get the impression that you don't think Paul will drain enough votes away to be a spoiler a la Nader and Perot? Do you think that the Republicans like Rudy and Mitt should do anything to attract Paul voters, or should they shun and denounce them?

I know, I know, stupid questions.

re: #21 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Er, which one of the candidates is?

I'm liking Ron for one reason - I'm hoping he turns into the Perot for Moonbats. I hope he runs independent and sucks the votes away.

re: #27 uncle_monkey

re: #21 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Er, which one of the candidates is?

I'm liking Ron for one reason - I'm hoping he turns into the Perot for Moonbats. I hope he runs independent and sucks the votes away.

I must admit that I have my fingers crossed for this too. At least he's entertaining.

re: #21 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Personally, I'm convinced that he's not from this planet.

______________________-
That's the UFO Kucinich saw....it was Ron Paul's craft returning to the Mothership.

Ron Paul couldn't care less about Iranian nukes and Obama is going to negotiate with Iranians and make them an offer they can't refuse! By the way the Godfather is on the A&E network 4:45 pm. It's so nice to live in fantasy land.

Re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

Details. Details. To him, those are neo-con scam jobs, and they don't exist in his reality.

Unofficial poll:

Who would win in a pillow fight RON PAUL or KOOCINICH?

That's the only thing he need say for him to not get my vote.

re: #33 insanity police

Assuming Koocinich doesn't have any secret pillow fighting technology from the aliens he encountered.

re: #29 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You think Perot cost Clinton the election?

re: #36 rappmandu

re: #29 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You think Perot cost Clinton the election?

Perhaps he meant Nadar and Al Gore in 2000.

"What, me worry?"

re: #2 WrathofG-d

Um....Ron Paul and the Neo-Nazis agree on almost everything, and well, the nukes are only going to kill Jews...so....

why is this a surprise really?

Exactly what I was thinking. Bet Pat Buchanan gets wood over it, too.

re: #37 nolocon

I agree...I'm doing a little Socratic Method to get at my original point. (See #25.

re: #33 insanity police

Is Dennis dressed as a Vulcan there?

I would not be surprised if PondPaw and QueSinItch form the first New (Feelgood) Age team in a thankfully hopeless run for POTUS.

Ron Paul logic:
We have no right to be agressive unless they nuke us first!

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

That's really the whole L³eft-wing, "anti-war", troofer attitude towards all threats to this country. Nothing to see here. These aren't the 'Droids you are looking for.

Nothing can happen.

Soooo pre-9-11.

Obama thinks he can talk to Iran.....they are both nuts.

Can Ron Paul please GO AWAY?!

re: #37 nolocon

re: #36 rappmandu

re: #29 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You think Perot cost Clinton the election?

Perhaps he meant Nadar and Al Gore in 2000.

No, Bush 41 in 1992.

Perot drew off enough GOP votes that Bubba won a plurality.

re: #27 uncle_monkey

re: #21 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Er, which one of the candidates is?

I'm liking Ron for one reason - I'm hoping he turns into the Perot for Moonbats. I hope he runs independent and sucks the votes away.

He definitely would hurt the Democrat (Hiilary) as a third party cadidate.
He more in common with Kucnich that the Republicn Party

OT

Blair's Law connects Denver and Egypt:

The Egyptian government-controlled newspaper ran the piece, by Bassem Ahmed Hassan, last week:

For more than a decade now, thousands of people in Denver, Colorado, have been spending the first weekend of October in the streets both celebrating and protesting. This year was no exception. Crowds from different national and ethnic backgrounds came out to participate in the Four Directions March; a celebration organised by the Transform Columbus Day Alliance (TCDA), an umbrella group of grassroots organisations that envision a world freed of Columbus's legacy. Afterwards they took to the streets to protest and block the "Convoy of Conquest", the name they use to label the Columbus Day Parade, and demand a change of the name of this official holiday. As usual, scores of protesters were arrested for violating the legally sanctioned "right" of the parade organisers to "honour their hero".

Or for loitering. Something like that. The "legal sanction" they were violating, of course, was the First Amendment. Hassan goes on to make the Glenn Morris argument that Palestinians are the Indians of the Middle East. Read whole thing, for its mendacity (not to mention its non sequiturs and sheer bad writing) is breathtaking.

Update: Nothing on Hassan at DU except that he seems to have completed a dissertation there. He's not listed among staff and faculty.

[Link: thedrunkablog.blogspot.com...]

re: #10 NR Pax

Ah good. I was thinking what this site needed was more hate mail from Ron Paul fanatics...

To paper the walls with?

It was interesting how many Ron Paul signs were hoisted at last weekend's anti-war demonstration in L.A. (Ringo the Gringo's photos.) I'm eagerly waiting for Zombie's documentation of the San Francisco event. Perhaps the moonbats really will draft Ron Paul for a third party run. They hate Hillary for her war vote and the Clintons' triangulations (welfare reform, NAFTA, for etc.)

re: #41 madisonsfriend

re: #33 insanity police

Is Dennis dressed as a Vulcan there?

I don't think so. He is wearing a suit, not one of these spiffy outfits.

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER LIZARDS!

Why couldn't Ron Paul be from anywhere but Texas? Disgraceful.

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

Just out of curiosity, if Iran does get nukes , does anybody think they would hit Saudi Arabia first? Settle the Shia/Sunni spilt once and for all, and jack up the price of oil.

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Coward, my ass!

If it were no big deal, why is Iran risking it all to get them? Saddam is ten toes up for bluffing having WMD including a nuke program. He gave up a pretty lavish lifestyle rather than come clean on his program. If Saddam had a nuclear weapon before he invaded Kuwait, he would still be there and might even be in Saudi Arabia by now...... logic escapes Ron Paul.

re: #50 Wm T Sherman

Yes, but we know that the Palestinians are the excess Jordanians of the region and jordan goes all the way back to 1946(AD) - a truly ancient nation

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

re: #10 NR Pax

Ah good. I was thinking what this site needed was more hate mail from Ron Paul fanatics...

To paper the walls with?

Actually to put underneath the cat box when they try to spray the floors again.

re: #56 chicagodudewhotrades

Just out of curiosity, if Iran does get nukes , does anybody think
they would hit Saudi Arabia first? Settle the Shia/Sunni spilt once and
for all, and jack up the price of oil.

That's not an unlikely senario. Though I think they would just threaten the Saudis rather than outright use the nukes. The nukes are saved for Israel.

re: #56 chicagodudewhotrades

Just out of curiosity, if Iran does get nukes , does anybody think they would hit Saudi Arabia first? Settle the Shia/Sunni spilt once and for all, and jack up the price of oil.

no...first and last shot...Tel Aviv

Why in God's name did this little troll throw his hat into the ring in the first place? The last time he ran for president in 1988, he got his butt kicked like a narc at a biker rally. He mustered up .47% of the vote. No one really knew him then. No one really knows him now (sans the tin-foil hat). And given these outrageous statements he's made it's more likely that as a third-party candidate he'd be lucky to muster up half of that .47% this time around.

The guy's a loon. He doesn't belong in Congress. He belongs in an asylum; locked away from anyone he could do harm to, in a straitjacket, and heavily medicated.

re: #59 madisonsfriend

Excess Jordanians.

LOL!

re: #53 insanity police

Sorry, I meant the ears and haircut. Doesn't it look like he is wearing a cheap Vulcan style wig and ears?

re: #48 Spiny Norman

Perot got something like 8%. Paul would at best, IMO, get Nader's smaller % in 2000. I guess what I'm getting at is whether Repubs (I'm not one) think they should treat Paul and his supporters like Gore/Lieberman and their people treated Nader.

IOW, why tempt a monkeywrench in 2008? Do the Repubs see dissing Paul as absolutely risk-free?

re: #60 NR Pax

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

re: #10 NR Pax

Ah good. I was thinking what this site needed was more hate mail from Ron Paul fanatics...

To paper the walls with?

Actually to put underneath the cat box when they try to spray the floors again.

Why not just put Ron under it?

re: #63 MrAndMrsSmith

Why in God's name did this little troll throw his hat into the ring in the first place?

Because he has a messiah complex and loads of needy followers who encourage it.

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

Re: #68 Spiny Norman

And the place for those needful, useful idiots is over at Kos's sandbox, with the rest of the ignorant children.

Goodnight and Good weekend. I will have to see if there are any Ron Paul signs in my neighborhood- I will make sure we don't go there to sell GS cookies or BS popcorn. I am afraid Ron Paul supporters might be more dangerous than registered sex offenders.

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

With orders to use deadly force against attacking moonbats.

re: #67 Ward Cleaver

Why not just put Ron under it?

Cats have standards.

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

I think being put in a box and buried in the ground is discusting...imo

re: #43 Le_Patriot

Ron Paul logic:
We have no right to be agressive unless they nuke us first!

Agressively Surrender most likely!

re: #66 rappmandu

re: #48 Spiny Norman

Perot got something like 8%. Paul would at best, IMO, get Nader's smaller % in 2000. I guess what I'm getting at is whether Repubs (I'm not one) think they should treat Paul and his supporters like Gore/Lieberman and their people treated Nader.

IOW, why tempt a monkeywrench in 2008? Do the Repubs see dissing Paul as absolutely risk-free?

Uh... no, the Little General got 18.9%; more than enough to have had a very real influence on the overall result.

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.

Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Some posters have stated that they'd vote for ron paul over hillary. I think I can honestly say I think both of them are dangerous to our welfare in different ways. ron paul has no chance at the nomination so I'm far from worried but if it did come down to those two, I think I'd not vote in that case and let the cards fall where they may.

He is unstable and a joke in his policies.

Physicists debate existence of "quantum" Ron Paul

A group of quantum physicists met today to debate the effect the mainstream media is having on the Ron Paul GOP primary campaign.

The debate, held at Liberty University in Southern California and chaired by Liberty's Professor Robert Bourland, brought together some of the most respected quantum physicists in the country. Discussion centered around whether or not Ron Paul exists based on mainstream media observation of him. In the end, it was agreed that more study and research money was needed.

The field of quantum physics came into existence in the early part of the 20th century. Quantum physics holds that atomic and subatomic particles can both exist and not exist at the same time until they are looked at by an observer. In a classic thought experiment known as "Schrödinger's Cat," a theoretical cat in a box is both alive and dead at the same time. Only when the lid is removed and an observer looks at the cat is the cat's fate decided. The concept of "spin" is also an important part of quantum physics; the spin of subatomic particles can be positive or negative.

After the debate, Professor Bourland held a press conference. "The existence of Ron Paul is in a state of flux," he claimed. "The mainstream media has yet to unambiguously observe him."

The professor then went on to explain that if the mainstream media acknowledges or even implies that Ron Paul is in the GOP primary campaign, then Paul's spin will be positive and he will pop into existence. But if a complete media blackout occurs or the media denies that Ron Paul is a real candidate, then his spin will be negative and Ron Paul will pop out of existence.

Joshua Finkelstein, an emeritus professor of political science who taught for 35 years at Pokeewah University in Michigan's upper peninsula, and who recently learned of Paul's subatomic dilemma, believes that a quantum Paul will pose problems for his campaign. "If quantum Paul pops out of existence, it could affect his online fundraising," Finkelstein speculates. "Imagine going to the Ron Paul campaign's website and not seeing a smiling Ron Paul above the Statue of Liberty. It could decrease donations, which could in turn affect the unofficial online donation graphs, which could in turn decrease donations, etc."

Jessie Benton, communications director for the Ron Paul campaign, when asked about quantum Paul said, "Who's Ron Paul?"

heh.

I dont know if Nader is running but there is a push for Cynthia McKinney to run for President as the Green Party Candidate

Re: #75 Piglet

Are you kidding? Using his twisted logic, he'd say we deserved being nuked for our interference in the Middle East. For Ron Paul, there is only one reality he adheres to, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the real world.

re: #75 Piglet-U93

re: #43 Le_Patriot

Ron Paul logic:
We have no right to be agressive unless they nuke us first!

Agressively Surrender most likely!

__________________________________
He who refuses to ever do a preemptive strike, is subject to being preempted.

re: #74 albusteve

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.
Found it through Jawa Report...

Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

I think being put in a box and buried in the ground is discusting...imo

A marble tomb in Arlington National Cemetery would be more appropriate.

Amusing story: I used to be a member of the Libertarian Party. I recently received a postcard from my local chapter asking me to join the Republican party so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primary.

Into the recycling bin went the card.

I spit on all pacifists and their laughable pretense of morality. Their sole purpose is to assist totalitarians and gratify their own childish impulse to provoke, injure, and denigrate. Millions have died, and millions more have been enslaved, because of their foolish sabotage and treason.

I literally do not believe in the sincerity of any pacifist. They are ALL liars, frauds, and fools. In a thousand years, the people of what I hope will be a more enlightened age will look back and wonder how anyone could have been so dishonest, or so arrogant.

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey,

And for us. The US first of all, I believe. We are the Great Satan to the Mad Mullahs. Israel is the Lesser Satan.

I really don't think they care that we can turn them into a glass parking lot. They don't think we'll actually do it.

They might even be right on that. G-d knows the moonbats would be out marching about why did evil Bush make the Nice Mullahs hate us.

re: #80 Bill Amos

I dont know if Nader is running but there is a push for Cynthia McKinney to run for President as the Green Party Candidate

I thought she was running already?

re: #83 Spiny Norman

re: #74 albusteve

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.
Found it through Jawa Report...
Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.
Screw her.

What a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen. Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

I think being put in a box and buried in the ground is discusting...imo

A marble tomb in Arlington National Cemetery would be more appropriate.

they ruined Arlington when they planted Kennedy there...cool place tho

I recall witnessing an exchange between a Gore voter and a Nader voter:

Gore voter: You're throwing away your vote and cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Nader voter: No, I'm cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Gore voter: *horrified silence*

In this example, the Nader voter was not a "Nader Raider" or true supporter, per se. On the contrary, that person's aim was to subvert Gore and the Democrats by outflanking them via pushing Nader as a liberal insurgent or alternative candidate.

Don't put it beyond the realm of possibility that the same can happen with Paul being the monkeywrench in 2008.

/Revolution at the margins

re: #80 Bill Amos

I dont know if Nader is running but there is a push for Cynthia McKinney to run for President as the Green Party Candidate

haha too funny. Well, I always thought after reading the Green Party platform that the Republicans should encourage that party to siphon off the 20 percent dingbats on the left. The Green Party is truly nutty. They tried to approach me with thier platform and I had no clue what they were..I took one look at it and handed it back and I was speechless.

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

re: #79 NJDhockeyfan

Keep the lid on the cat box. Just add a warning label - "Do not Open until winter solstice 2008".

It is somewhat of an amazing illustration.

When you look at it, Ron Paul is like a magnet.

Attracting what you you would think are polar opposites minus his involvement, (Far Left & Far Right & how they despise each other) he has managed to attract both.

RP is just a wormy little Wally Cox looking critter. Dangerous to boot.

re: #80 Bill Amos

I dont know if Nader is running but there is a push for Cynthia McKinney to run for President as the Green Party Candidate

LOL...If Ron Paul runs as a 4th party candidate, next year will be a complete circus.

re: #76 Spiny Norman

Thank you for fact-checking my ass.

Ron Paul delivered over 4,000 babies. If he delivered one of mine, I'd have it disinfected, no matter how old her or she was right now. Ron Paul cooties. Yeck.

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

She supports Obama

re: #88 albusteve

they ruined Arlington when they planted Kennedy there...cool place tho

Now that's out of line. JFK was the last good Democrat President and a genuine war hero to boot. He deserves a place of honor there.

re: #86 Iron Fist

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey,

And for us. The US first of all, I believe. We are the Great Satan to the Mad Mullahs. Israel is the Lesser Satan.

I really don't think they care that we can turn them into a glass parking lot. They don't think we'll actually do it.

They might even be right on that. G-d knows the moonbats would be out marching about why did evil Bush make the Nice Mullahs hate us.

Delievery is the problem for the mullahs. Their missles can hit Israel, not us. Even a strike against a U.S. base in range in the Mid-East won't threaten our survival. And they probably think that they can get lucky & finish off "the Jewish question" before Israel can retaliate.

Ugh... Ron Paul on a Friday. Makes me want to leave work even sooner, just so I can get home and get some chores done.

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

My pops already had his orders to go to Japan when the bomb was dropped and Japan surrendered. As far as he was ever concerned, Truman's decision (and Tibbets efforts) were the best decision of the war.

re: #98 opnion

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

She supports Obama

Figures.

re: #88 albusteve

re: #83 Spiny Norman

re: #74 albusteve

re: #69 Nevergiveup

re: #55 Spiny Norman

re: #44 Son Of The Godfather

OT: Severely deranged BDS lady spits on a hero.
Found it through Jawa Report...
Watch out though, there's a scary warning in the top left now... she'll publish your IP and e-mail if you hurt her feelings!

Hysterical f*ckwits like that biatch are why Brig. Gen. Tibbets asked to be buried in an unmarked grave.
Screw her.

What
a sad statement about the state of our country that a hero such as Gen.
Tibbets has to make a request like that. He should be buried with a
huge grave marker and a 24 hour armed Honor guard.

I think being put in a box and buried in the ground is discusting...imo

A marble tomb in Arlington National Cemetery would be more appropriate.

they ruined Arlington when they planted Kennedy there...cool place tho

Hey, JFK was a veteran & a hawk. He deserves to rest in Arlington.

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

Well all I Know is if it wasn't for the Gen. Tibbets, I might not be here today ( I know- no big lose ). My father was with the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima and he was on his way to Japan if the bomb wasn't dropped!

!luaP noR

/non-sequitur

re: #99 Spiny Norman

re: #88 albusteve

they ruined Arlington when they planted Kennedy there...cool place tho

Now that's out of line. JFK was the last good Democrat President and a genuine war hero to boot. He deserves a place of honor there.

there are major issues with his war hero status...his boat was shut down...his crew was asleep...documents buried and lost ala Kerry...some said he should have been brought up on charges...his dad bought him a navy cross or whatever it was....dont you ever read the Natl Enquirer?

re: #88 albusteve

I have never voted for a Democrat.

I can say, despite all of his stuff that has come out subsequent to his death, Kennedy had to have nerves of steel with the missile crisis.

Actually, I always thought, if someone really wanted to catch the dems in a precarious position, perhaps in a debate or something, quote some of his speeches and then let the dem criticize it.

Let them go on record criticizing something of JFK's. It would be beautiful.

Reading much of his speeches retrospectively, he makes a number of republicans look soft.

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

re: #100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Delievery
is the problem for the mullahs. Their missles can hit Israel, not us.
Even a strike against a U.S. base in range in the Mid-East won't
threaten our survival. And they probably think that they can get lucky
& finish off "the Jewish question" before Israel can retaliate.

If you do not think that an Iranian nuke can hit any city in the United States, you have not been paying attention.

Three words: uninspected containerized freight.

I have heard about sneaking a nuke in a freight container, or lauching a missle from a ship out in International Waters. But how likely is that to work?

re: #99 Spiny Norman

re: #88 albusteve

they ruined Arlington when they planted Kennedy there...cool place tho

Now that's out of line. JFK was the last good Democrat President and a genuine war hero to boot. He deserves a place of honor there.

Damn right but I would exclude Ted.

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey

re: #110 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How likely?

Very.

A freight container is more than adequate to house an extremely large device. Most are not inspected, or inspected only cursorily. The containers, once unloaded, are attached to big rig trucks. They can go absolutely anywhere with impunity.

Although it would be kinda funny if they actually got one into the country and it got hijacked!

Beyond the other defenses presented here, we may see the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs as a warning, one presented at a stage in the development of nuclear weapons when a world-destroying holocaust could not result.

What if no atomic bomb had actually been used before hundreds or thousands of them had been made. We know the Soviet Union was working on nuclear weapons well before Hiroshima. Humanitarian compunction would scarcely have restrained Stalin or Beria. They would have put their slogan-spouting pacifists in the gulag, if any of the sanctimonious cowards had been willing to speak out.

Without the example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, how likely is it that nuclear armed leaders would have found the restraint to avert disaster in later decades? There would have been tests and demonstrations aplenty, but would that have had the same effect as the heart-breaking scenes from Japan?

I for one doubt it very much. Is it moral to kill 150,000 people as a warning and demonstration? Would it be moral not to if there were the only real alternative to a nuclear showdown in the early 60s?

. Don't settle for just any Paul.

Insist on genuine Ron Paul™ parts with the 90-day No Blo-Back™ warranty.

re: #109 formercorpsman

re: #88 albusteve

I have never voted for a Democrat.

I can say, despite all of his stuff that has come out subsequent to his death, Kennedy had to have nerves of steel with the missile crisis.

Actually, I always thought, if someone really wanted to catch the dems in a precarious position, perhaps in a debate or something, quote some of his speeches and then let the dem criticize it.

Let them go on record criticizing something of JFK's. It would be beautiful.

Reading much of his speeches retrospectively, he makes a number of republicans look soft.

maybe youre right...maybe not...I grew up with the son of art lundahl, the guy who found and examined and advised kennedy during the missle crisis...he had a very low opinion of kennedys performance back then...considered him frightingly naive, egotistical and scared to death of the Soviets...I took his word for it...he was there in the oval office at the time

re: #117 buzzsawmonkey

One of the dumbest blind spots I can think of is to imagine that it is necessary to deliver a nuke by missile. Or plane.

a Ford F150 will do just fine...easy to aquire too!

re: #57 Ward Cleaver

At least she's getting whooped in the comments.

Some people are a waste of skin.

What in G-d's name is Ru Paul doing on the Republican ticket? He is a Liberal in every letter of the word. His hatred for Israel and his weak stance on Defense is typical of a Liberal Democrat.

re: #105 Nevergiveup

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

Well all I Know is if it wasn't for the Gen. Tibbets, I might not be here today ( I know- no big lose ). My father was with the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima and he was on his way to Japan if the bomb wasn't dropped!

"Nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the invasion of Japan." And they're still using the surplus.

Geeez, Ron Paul's statements on Iran are as stupid as Obama's.

re: #122 ploome hineni

My version of satire....I compare Ron Paul to an oversized Transgender who is as idiotic as he is.

re: #121 FreeIowa

Absolutely. Mine was awarded in June, 1972. My brother's, in December 2003. Both medals were manufactured in 1945, and had been sitting in warehouses since before either of us was born.

Ahem

Let me adjust my rabbit ears and tin foil on my crystal ball.

Set the tuner to 11/3/2008

Ok Let's see...

CBS! Crap!

(CBS Whitehouse Correspondent) ...Hillary ahead in all polls having 51% over a SEVERLY SPLIT GOP vote of 25% for Rudy Guliani and 25% for Ron Paul... Yes Katie RON PAUL has really hurt the Republicans this election cycle all but assuring that Hillary Rodham will BE THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT EVER and Barak Obama will be the FIRST Afro-American Vice-President ever...

Ugh. Damn depressing. Oh well let's see a little further on...

WHACKS crystal ball tuner and attaches coat hanger. Points towards the west...

11/5/2008...

CBS Again! Crap! Note to self: Get satellite Crystal Ball next year.

(closeup of unknown “anarchist”) RUDY STOLE THIS ELECTION WITH BUSHITLER. THAT !@#$%^&*)() NEEDS TO DIE! !@#^%&* 9/11 WAS an INSIDE JOB!

(Katie) Anger as Americans take to the streets to protest another HIGHJACKED Presidential election!

Turns off crystal ball and tosses in trash can.

Why do I need that to see history repeat itself.

re: #109 formercorpsman

RIGHT!

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
-- John F. Kennedy

Is now

"We shall not pay too much, bear any difficult burden, nor will we meet any difficult task, or support fellow Iraqi patriots who are dieing for a noble cause, nor will we oppose any bomb making idiot, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. In fact, liberty means nothing without universal health care."
-- The 2008 Dems

re: #120 roguejew

Charles let Gordan hang out here for a few years before recently giving him the stick.

Hey, what can I say, we are a tolerant folk up to a point.

re: #128 DeafDog

re: #109 formercorpsman

RIGHT!

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
-- John F. Kennedy

Is now

"We shall not pay too much, bear any difficult burden, nor will we meet any difficult task, or support fellow Iraqi patriots who are dieing for a noble cause, nor will we oppose any bomb making idiot, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. In fact, liberty means nothing without universal health care."
-- The 2008 Dems

those were great words jfk spoke...do you know who wrote that speech?

"Not doing much about it" is precisely what every world leader is doing.

Not that this makes Ron Paul look statesmanlike.

A teacher in upstate New York asked her class how many of them are
Hillary fans. Not really knowing what a Hillary fan is, but wanting
to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except
Johnny.

The teacher asked Johnny why he has decided to be different.
Johnny says, "I'm not a Hillary fan."

The teacher says, "Why aren't you a Hillary fan?"

Johnny says, "I'm a George Bush fan."

The teacher asks why he's a George Bush fan.

The boy says, "Well, my mom's a George Bush fan and my dad's a
George Bush fan, so I'm a George Bush fan!"

The teacher is kind of angry, because this is New York! So she
demands, "What if your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot,
what would that make you?"

Johnny sighs and says, "That would make me a Hillary fan."

re: #33 insanity police

Unofficial poll:

Who would win in a pillow fight RON PAUL or KOOCINICH?

Sheesh. They wouldn't fight at all.
Diplomacy, that's the ticket!

Diplomacy! The aggressive kind, dontcha know.

re: #33 insanity police

Unofficial poll:

"Who would win in a pillow fight RON PAUL or KOOCINICH?"

The evil elf would create his Department of Peace, and Uncle Ron would abolish it.

re: #130 albusteve

Kennedy gets the credit, but I am guessing that you know a story behind it

(just don't tell me it was a teenage Chris Mathews)

re: #105 Nevergiveup

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

Well all I Know is if it wasn't for the Gen. Tibbets, I might not be here today ( I know- no big lose ). My father was with the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima and he was on his way to Japan if the bomb wasn't dropped!

My father was in the Army Signal Corps and was also on his way to Japan, for the same reason.

re: #121 FreeIowa

re: #105 Nevergiveup

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

Well all I Know is if it wasn't for the Gen. Tibbets, I might not be here today ( I know- no big lose ). My father was with the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima and he was on his way to Japan if the bomb wasn't dropped!

"Nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the invasion of Japan." And they're still using the surplus.

The only thing that pacifists ever accomplish is to postpone war long enough to give the bad guys a better shot at winning.

Pacifists are evil.

re: #106 Mirage

!luaP noR

/non-sequitur

If you're saying he's bassackwards, you're right!

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey

re: #110 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How likely?

Very.

A freight container is more than adequate to house an extremely large device. Most are not inspected, or inspected only cursorily. The containers, once unloaded, are attached to big rig trucks. They can go absolutely anywhere with impunity.

They SAY that they've improved container inspection, but I'm not so sure. In any event, they can always offload the container at a Mexican port, then drive it over our poorly-patrolled border in some stolen vehicle or other... perhaps even a stolen school bus.

Beslan to the nth power?

I don't know if you have followed this but..............First reports were that Israeli commandos attacked a Syrian construction site at night and recovered samples of nuclear material, at which point Israeli jets leveled the place. Then there were reports that a North Korean ship had docked and that "construction equipment" had been off loaded and hauled to the site, that's when the Israelis decided to bomb. There are two satellite pictures floating around on the net a before and after picture. Then the Israelis apologized for overflying Turkey. There were also reports that a super secret US system was used to "blind" all Syrian radar and shutoff all electricity in Syria the night of the attack. Now Al Jazeera says a US tactical nuke was used on the site. see link

[Link: www.jpost.com...]


If all this is true, Iran doesn't seem to be such a big problem now, does it?

Penn from "Penn and Teller" will be on Glenn Beck's CNN show tonight, Penn who is a Libertarian does mention Ron Paul during the interview, and Penn doesn't think to much of Paul.

Penn is fun to watch, and the NeoRons should go nuts over the Ron Paul comments.

If Ron Paul did not exist, would it be necessary to invent him?

Ron Paul and Alan "girlie man" Colmes sound a lot alike regarding Iran.

re: #33 insanity police

Unofficial poll:

Who would win in a pillow fight RON PAUL or KOOCINICH?

Dennis is a peaceful man and wouldn't want to fight anyone, besides he might need a nice set of pillows to make that long trip to Nebular. Ron Paul wouldn't have a pillow fight because IT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!

Ron Paul is the cause of... and solution to... all of America's problems.

/cracks another beer

re: #140 Edgesitter

If all this is true, Iran doesn't seem to be such a big problem now, does it?

I wouldn't say that at all.

Iran is a classic "rogue nation" in the fullest extent of the phrase. They believe the entire world order is immoral, and wish to rearrange it to suit their version of "the way things ought to be"... with them in the driver's seat, of course.

When Iran gets a handful of nukes, the odds are they will employ one or more of their proxy/sockpuppet organizations to use the bombs. They would like to keep their fingerprints off the operation, to keep their claim of "moral superiority" intact. [Yes, they think they are on some sort of moral high ground... and moonbats everywhere seem to agree.] Add in the apocalyptic world view of Ahmadinejad and some of the mullahs, and you've got an inherently unstable situation; a situation where deterrence is unlikely.

All of our weapons are of no use if we cannot prove they did it... or at least we will be forced into a pointless half-hearted counterstrike.

re: #98 opnion

re: #91 Spiny Norman

re: #77 opnion

Woman on the train this morning asked if Tibbets ever repented.
I said repent what? He did his duty. A terrible duty but necessary & saved a lot of lives that would have been lost in the Pacific

Next time anyone asked something that ignorant, ask her if she's ever heard of Operation Downfall, the planned invasion of Japan that Tibbets and his men made unnecessary. Ask her if 400,000 more dead American soldiers and probably 2 MILLION more dead Japanese would have satified her.

She supports Obama

Translation, no point talking to her. She's either an idiot or a loon.

re: #140 Edgesitter

I don't know if you have followed this but..............First reports were that Israeli commandos attacked a Syrian construction site at night and recovered samples of nuclear material, at which point Israeli jets leveled the place. Then there were reports that a North Korean ship had docked and that "construction equipment" had been off loaded and hauled to the site, that's when the Israelis decided to bomb. There are two satellite pictures floating around on the net a before and after picture. Then the Israelis apologized for overflying Turkey. There were also reports that a super secret US system was used to "blind" all Syrian radar and shutoff all electricity in Syria the night of the attack. Now Al Jazeera says a US tactical nuke was used on the site. see link

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If all this is true, Iran doesn't seem to be such a big problem now, does it?

Missing a sarc tag? If not...
Quite the opposite. Iran has facilities deep underground as reported over, and over, and over in even the MSM. Wiping out their efforts won't be anywhere near as easy. Ask.com can be your friend if you use it.

I am from Texas and kinda keep up to date, but I never knew of Ron Paul till this year. His district is down by Galveston and east, I think.

Boy this is going to get me in trouble but the truth will set you free. I live in Ron Paul's district. It is the 14th Texas. If you look at it on a map it looks like a crab pinching Houston's ass. It stretches from Galveston county along the coast south. But to let the LGF world know there are already two fine Republicans in the race to unseat Ron Paul....Chris Peden and Andy Mann. The action is the Republican primary because the district is very conservative.

Just more common sense from Ron Paul I don't see what the problem is...

re: #151 block

Just more common sense from Ron Paul I don't see what the problem is...

Then you're a fool.

re: #151 block

Just more common sense from Ron Paul I don't see what the problem is...

If you forgot the sarc tag I can forgive that.
If you actually believe what you said, then it's an insult to fools to call you one because you aren't even that smart.

re: #148 Hard Right

The great thing about an adversary's undertaking of a complex task is that you needn't destroy all their building blocks to crash the whole thing.

I am sure there are enough pieces above ground that destroying them will suffice for ten years worth of set-back.
or
They need currency badly enough that when their ability to export oil goes away their progress will stop.

[why would the usnavy have a 5th fleet if not to prevent iran exporting oil for cash and then exporting cash for nukes?]

re: #120 roguejew

What in G-d's name is Ru Paul doing on the Republican ticket? He is a Liberal in every letter of the word. His hatred for Israel and his weak stance on Defense is typical of a Liberal Democrat.

I've never understood this either. It's as though Ron Paul is a Manchurian candidate robot programmed by the Left to infiltrate the Right and sabotage them by being ridiculous.

To what kind of Republican voter does this weirdo hybrid of incoherent policies appeal? After 9/11, how can any thinking person think that pulling up the drawbridge type of isolationism can work? Iranian nukes are a problem for the United States and the entire world in fact. A candidate for the presidency in such deep denial is unqualified.

re: #154 Texas Joel

re: #148 Hard Right

The great thing about an adversary's undertaking of a complex task is that you needn't destroy all their building blocks to crash the whole thing.

I am sure there are enough pieces above ground that destroying them will suffice for ten years worth of set-back.
or
They need currency badly enough that when their ability to export oil goes away their progress will stop.

[why would the usnavy have a 5th fleet if not to prevent iran exporting oil for cash and then exporting cash for nukes?]

I wouldn't bet on the above ground scenario. They seem to have learned from the Osiris bombing. 10 years? Again, I wouldn't bet on it.
However, their refineries would make an excellent target for an air strike.

I hate to say it, but Paul makes Jimmy Carter look like William Wallace...

Can I call Ron Paul a deluded nutball now?
Like the LLL, he's wilfully blind and a fool.
I've been warning people about Iran since 1979, most of it falling on deaf ears.
People just don't want to see the terrible threat.

re: #152 Charles

re: #151 block

Just more common sense from Ron Paul I don't see what the problem is...

Then you're a fool.

Iran is where Islam will die first I don't think it is wise to play into the hands of the regime and bomb them. War is the health of the state you know...

Bush is talking tough on Iran because he has the blessings of the sunni regimes who all hate Shiites.

I honestly believe that the Iranian regime could be 'killed with kindness' rather quickly and without the use of force. Ideas are powerful and of all middle eastern Muslims, the Iranian youth are the most receptive to western ideas.

We've tried to 'nation-build' twice so far with force and failed. I think it is worth a try to nation build in Iran through an alliance and trade.

It's worth a try at least. Iran is many years off from completing a bomb and if we become friends in the meantime they may just forget about it because they have too many other problems and their government is basically broke right now.

And from a long term strategic standpoint. I think it makes more sense to ally ourselves with an heretical sect of Islam (in our long war against Islam). Being allied with the Sunnis has not worked out very well it's like having a pet rattle-snake.

Ron Paul supporters sure are vindictive little buggers. I just got a wave of nasty messages in response to my comment on this Shelby's RP song.

#152 Charles - A very inarticulate response. 'You're A Fool' - Really? That's the sum of your argument?

You know, I realize when I read the headlines, it doesn't matter which side anyone's on - the headline is a partial quote and is used to make your point, sort of like those tenth grade reports you might have written. The point being 'Ron Paul is Crazy! Don't vote for him!' Don't bother with balance, don't bother with complete sentences. Well you know, I watched the CNN interview and strangely enough there is more to his argument. Crazy Huh? But of course, there's no need to discuss the merits of that argument when you are busy demonizing someone you don't agree with.

I suspect given Ron's strong fundraising that he'll run as Libertarian after he drops out of the Republican race.

re: #161 gadlaw

#152 Charles - A very inarticulate response. 'You're A Fool' - Really? That's the sum of your argument?

Yep, that's it.

This idiot is the third party candidate. I wonder if his moonbat followers will claim election fraud after he gets creamed...

re: #161 gadlaw

#152 Charles - A very inarticulate response. 'You're A Fool' - Really? That's the sum of your argument?

You know, I realize when I read the headlines, it doesn't matter which side anyone's on - the headline is a partial quote and is used to make your point, sort of like those tenth grade reports you might have written. The point being 'Ron Paul is Crazy! Don't vote for him!' Don't bother with balance, don't bother with complete sentences. Well you know, I watched the CNN interview and strangely enough there is more to his argument. Crazy Huh? But of course, there's no need to discuss the merits of that argument when you are busy demonizing someone you don't agree with.

No, there is nothing to his arguements. The fact that you think there is tells me...you're a fool.

re: #163 Charles

re: #161 gadlaw

#152 Charles - A very inarticulate response. 'You're A Fool' - Really? That's the sum of your argument?

Yep, that's it.

To put this into perspective. Look at what Israel has done with Syria. Did they posture and threaten Syria for years and years before taking out their nuke site? Nope. They just did what they thought had to be done.

All this tension and fear the administration is cultivating is because they want to attack Iran NOW. They don't want to wait until there is a genuine threat.

Iran is afraid, afraid that the fever of revolution is fading. They want a perpetual standoff with the USA so they can use it as a tool of agitation to remain in control of the country (think 1984) and also as a way to reignite the revolution.

They would love us to bomb them. They would love to see their countrymen and women become objects of sacrifice and fight to defend their country as they did in the iran-iraq war.

As it stands now the Iranians are depressed, drug users, and hungry for change.

re: #130 albusteve

albusteve-

"...do you know who wrote that speech?..."
Best Guess is Ted Sorensen.

And to All Y'all-

Absent a military strike Iran will have Nuclear Weapons. The question is where do we go from there.

-S-

Do the Ronbots have any idea how Ron is going to perform all these miracles he says he wants to do? Do they think walking into the White HouseCasa de Blanko will allow him to do these things? I would think he would have more power as a Congressman to get his ideas started.