Surprise, surprise, surprise....

Shocked! Yes, shocked am I!

MSM: hey, isn't that Brittany over there?

Any mention of ex-Nazi officials who fled to the Middle East?

meanwhile, the beginning of the demonization of our next President

This is one dangerous man: it's George Bush with brains

They forcibly removed their Jews and now their countries are toilets.

one of its key debating chambers.

Is that anything like a Chamber of Horrors ?

Pray tell, what is a 'debating chamber'?

Diplo-speak run amoc .....

and the arabs are all coming to annapolis to apologize....

Its about time some light was shined on the organized Arab persecution of Jews. Good thing they had Israel to go to for safety.

And it seems that everyone fails to recognize that this conspiracy was the first step in getting the Jews out of the Middle East, with the destruction of Israel as the final step. Once Israel is destroyed, the Jews can be forced out of the Middle East and will have to seek refuge in the West. At least until the jihad pushes Jews out of Europe and and eventually the US.
Does no one else see this? Why is oppression and persecution only a crime when perpetrated against someone other than non-muslims? Oh, I forgot, because only muslims are "protected".

Israel should remain free of muslim returnees / terrorists.

Israel absorbed those Jews while the Arab nations used the Arabs (who fled at the nations' insistence) as tools.

NYT version of this story.

It'll be interesting to see if this gets traction & how the left responds.

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a blueprint for the denationalization of their Jewish nationals, the sequestrations of their property and the declaration of Jews as enemies of the state

Shame, your name is muslim countries...

Captain obvious here.

There's a big reason why nearly 1 million Jews left the Arab/Islamic world, and settled in the US, Israel, or other parts of the globe.

It's because they were persecuted, and all but thrown out - some with not much more than what they had on their backs.

The Palestinians get to bitch and moan about their right of return - despite the fact that the Palestinians were told by their Arab brothers to leave the areas of West Bank, Gaza, and Israel proper so that the Arab armies could drive the Jews into the sea.

That didn't happen, and the Arabs couldn't care less what happened to all those who left their homes. Adding insult to injury, they never bothered to allow those same folks to properly resettle in their new countries - instead leaving them as permanent refugees, under the "care" of the UNRWA.

Where are the reparations for the nearly 1 million Jews who were dispossessed of their lands and property? That doesn't come up in these talks, and yet we've got to hear about the Palestinian whine and seethe for decades on end.

The truth about Arab conspiracies, even if proven with indisputable evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt, does not matter. The only thing that's "true" in this world is the "truth" the MSM decides is true -- and that is something the MSM will not allow us to know. It does not fit their agenda.

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Wasn't that always well known? Not only did the Arabs kick the Jews out, they also stole the Jews' property (much like what the Communists did). I'm not sure though that the conspiracy angle is very important. After all, the Arab League is now almost obsolete...

But they only did it knowing the Israelis would in later years prevent students in Gaza from coming to America to study.

When (re)stating the blatantly obvious facts becomes a newsworthy event, we know definitively that serious problems are what we have here.

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60 yrs too late

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(1) Not too long ago a quote from the NYT was respected. Now it just shows the person quoting is too lazy to do any research. (2) Pinch or Punch or Putsch or Pooch, whoever is in charge today, deserves to be poor. That's what happens when you let the children run the family business. Perhaps that should be "ruin" the family business.

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A new study about the economy in the Middle East:

Black money

Petrodollars changing Middle East, but Israel left out of the picture

After the annual convention of the International Monetary Fund in Washington ended and everyone went back home, the Fund’s research department published its yearly review of the region known as “Middle East and Central Asia,” which includes, among others, all oil-exporting Arab-Muslim countries: Algeria, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the Persian Gulf Emirates. It’s a fascinating report – and for Israeli eyes, also a scary one.

The main findings are as follows: Oil-exporting Mideastern countries earned roughly $600 billion from oil and gas exports. In the years 2003-2006, the export revenues of these countries totaled about $2,100 billion.

This year, export revenues of Middle Eastern oil-rich nations will reach another $700 billion; should the price of oil reach $100 dollars a barrel, the revenues will leap forth to $850 billion. Next year, in 2008, the Arab-Muslim Mideast’s oil revenues will cross the $1,000 billion mark. We should remember this number: One thousand billion dollar revenues from oil and gas exports in one year.

Israel’s GDP, that is, the total value of all the products and services produced in Israel, will total roughly $170 billion this year. Or in other words, the Muslim-Arab world’s oil export revenues are at least six times higher than all of Israel’s domestic production.

Which country makes the most money? Saudi Arabia gets about $250 billion a year, the Gulf Emirates get about $180 billion a year, and in third place we have Iran, with revenues of $100 billion a year.

During the six good years, 2003-2008, the 11 Arab-Muslim oil-exporting countries will receive roughly $4,000 billion in exchange for their exports to the energy-hungry world. It’s an imaginary sum; incomprehensible.

Oil money revolutionizing Mideast

Arab Official: I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there is persecution of Jews going on here!

Underling: Your swastika armband sir.

Arab Official: Thank you.

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This is obvious to anybody with brains who realizes which parties really hold the cards in the middle east game, but for the rest of the world, this may come as interesting news. Arabs acting as bad as the goddamned Nazis? I'm shocked, shocked.

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meanwhile, the beginning of the demonization of our next President

This is one dangerous man: it's

While it is known up to 850,000 Jews left Arab countries after the post-war division of the Palestine mandate, the group is holding a news conference to highlight a rediscovered Arab League “draft law” that suggests a pan-Arab conspiracy was at play.

"Draft Law"? Yeah- I think it might be called the koran.

It's a Religion of Peace!

What?

No flying pig?

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What?

No flying pig?

It will be quickly overlooked. The MSM and left do not care.

Most Americans coming to Israel for the first time expect to find a sort of Manhattan on the Mediterranean. In fact more than half of the Jewish Israelis is made up of people or their descendants who were kicked out of their homes in Arab countries. My wife's family is from Aleppo in Syria. In 1947 their was an organized pogrom in which the houses of all the Jews in the town were burned. Anyone who could fled with absolutely nothing. When my wife's family came to Israel they were given a free furnished apartment. Contrast that with how the Arabs have treated their Palestinian "brothers".

This collusion seems minor compared to what Condoleeza Rice and Ehud Olmert are trying to do. The Israelis need to wake up.

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I had forgotten that Rudy told that rich Arab to take his $20 million and stuff it after it was offered as a sop for 9/11. This line reminded me. Thanks.

Giuliani 2008: All The Right Enemies.

re: #5 ploome hineni

meanwhile, the beginning of the demonization of our next President

This is one dangerous man: it's

But think about, these Jews were 1) harvesting human organs (including stealing penises) 2) controlling the countries banking system 3) employing mind control devices by talking about this crazy "democracy" thing 4) drinking the blood of Arab children 5) stealing land from the Arabs 6) inviting the Great Satan into the country with their horrible gods like cars, computers, airplanes, calculators and other tools of Satan.

/LLL-Muslim alliance

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Kinda like Europe, non?

That was my precise afterthought.... Take a look Europe, you're next!

Iranian Cartoon Ridicules West on Nuclear Case

Well, that convinced me.

I guess I'm reverting and moving to Tehran.

Whose with me?

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meanwhile, the beginning of the demonization of our next President

This is one dangerous man: it's

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Where are the reparations for the nearly 1 million Jews who were dispossessed of their lands and property? That doesn't come up in these talks, and yet we've got to hear about the Palestinian whine and seethe for decades on end.

I don't have the link, but I do remember a few years back when Egypt was going to ask for reparations against Israel for the Jews looting of Egypt during the biblical Exodus. Israelis threatened to sue for their years of slavery. Issue was dropped. Man, this dispute goes wayyyy back...

They're (Egypt Islamic Fundamentalists) just perpetually livid because the impotent pre-Islamic Allah could not prevent Yhwh from drowning the Egyptian army in the Read Sea.

You mean there were Jews in the Middle East before 1948?

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The Arab League is still in existence, and still pushing its boycott of Israel--which still affects which companies are willing to do business in and with Israel.

Yes, but since Egypt has signed the nominal peace agreement with Israel, the Arab league has not made any significant new decisions, and is virtually politically paralysed. The Arab initiative has passed on to groups such as al-Quaida and the Muslim Brotherhood.

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According to Jimmy Carter and Friends, it's the Jews who are persecuting Arabs or at least thats what his buddy Yassir Arafat told him in between molesting young arab boys.

He said he and his research colleagues will also present evidence showing the United Nations failed to investigate the matter, in part because an Arab League representative ran the agenda at one of its key debating chambers.

Yes folks, the UN was useless, even back in 1948. So much for the UN.

Look, we all know that an Arab conspiracy to oppress and persecute the Jews was really a Jewish conspiracy to make the Arabs look bad for oppressing the Jews. Thus, we see the typical Jewish pattern - conspiracy to be oppressed and abused and exterminated and gassed and baked in ovens for the extremely attenuated and implausible goal of making other peoples look bad. Those wily Jews, we have to hate them for making us hate them! It's also easier to understand the forgoing if you wear a Palestinian "peace scarf" and cinch it up real tight under your jugular so you get lightheaded - lightheaded with truth!

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Develop Solar Energy.

One of the Republican candidates said if elected he would give billions of dollars in energy research tax credits.

Solar. Hydrogen. Nuclear. Even bio-fuels. They all could work and take the profit out of the OPEC cartel. Imagine (no music, please) the Arab/Persian oil producing countries without their petro revenues.

Here's a suggestion:

Tell the US Navy that their next aircraft carrier must be powered by nuclear fusion, and give them the funding to to develop it.

This is only a suggestion.

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And the news here is what? It is a bit disturbing that this is taken as NEW. Although perhaps this should be point out to Secretary of State Rice before the Annapolis conference so she stops referring to the Palestinians as the Black people of the middle east. The only correlation between the 2 peoples is that neither of their so called leaders really want to do any for them, only want to blame some one else.

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Cotler is one cool dude and someone I'd describe as an international human rights scholar (and lawyer), rather than this article's narrow description as a "Jewish" rights scholar. Good info here, my concern is that at any future "peace" conference (God save us from Annapolis), this info, rightly, will be used to counter claims and compensation demands re: the "Palestinian" refugee issue comes up (quotes b/c they're grandkids, great-grands, descendents most of whom never lived in Israel, including the disputed territories), and that when the refugee issue is then mutually dispensed with, it will falsely appear that Israel has received some concession (for which of course something tangible will be expected in return--land!), when in actuality the whole refugee claim is a bogus pawn to play to get both international sympathy and land.

re: #28 Golem Akbar

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Where are the reparations for the nearly 1 million Jews who were dispossessed of their lands and property? That doesn't come up in these talks, and yet we've got to hear about the Palestinian whine and seethe for decades on end.

I don't have the link, but I do remember a few years back when Egypt was going to ask for reparations against Israel for the Jews looting of Egypt during the biblical Exodus. Israelis threatened to sue for their years of slavery. Issue was dropped. Man, this dispute goes wayyyy back...

Ha ha ha. Don't mess with people whose culture goes back to the Bronze Age.

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Arab collusion against Jews? Knock me over with a feather.

The Arabs have been on a collusion course for some time.

re: #46 Ward Cleaver

The Angy Angry Left finds a new target

I like to think we LGFers can forgive each other's little spelling errors. ;-)

I really wish our government would stop spending even 1 minute on this ridiculous Annapolis middle east conference, that will only serve to defile the Naval Academy; And perhaps concentrate on the possible catastrophic results of the upheavals in Pakistan. I really hope we have a plan to grab those nukes!

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If I recall Leon Uris' book "The Haj" correctly, he wrote that a Palistinian who tries to be successful is showing evidence of accepting the 1947 partitian. There is punishment for those who do try to improve their lot. How else can we explain millions of folks living in "refugee camps?" Refugees from what? Most of them were born there. The Jews who relocated to Israel were also refugees but decided to make a life in the new land. For the Palis, sixty years of sitting on their collective asses. What an absolute waste!

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I really wish our government would stop spending even 1 minute on this ridiculous Annapolis middle east conference, that will only serve to defile the Naval Academy; And perhaps concentrate on the possible catastrophic results of the upheavals in Pakistan. I really hope we have a plan to grab those nukes!

I don't think anyone takes Annapolis seriously any longer.

SHOCKING........................

or not

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Cotler is one cool dude

Whoa, Orde. He's done some great work here but let's not forget he's a liberal and in Canada, was cabinet minister for the (G)liberal party.

From the NYT story (I posted earlier):

Cotler: “I know this may sound Pollyannaish, but I believe that if we allow people to understand the truth of what occurred, then they will be able to recognize the other,” he said. “Right now the other is being demonized.”

(I think this story should be presented in anger, without the touchy feelies.)

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re: #69 Nevergiveup

I really wish our government would stop spending even 1 minute on this ridiculous Annapolis middle east conference, that will only serve to defile the Naval Academy; And perhaps concentrate on the possible catastrophic results of the upheavals in Pakistan. I really hope we have a plan to grab those nukes!

I don't think anyone takes Annapolis seriously any longer.

It is still a distraction, although I guess you could make the argument that it is better to Have Rice in Jerusalem than budding into anything real important.

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If I recall Leon Uris' book "The Haj" correctly, he wrote that a Palistinian who tries to be successful is showing evidence of accepting the 1947 partitian. There is punishment for those who do try to improve their lot. How else can we explain millions of folks living in "refugee camps?" Refugees from what? Most of them were born there. The Jews who relocated to Israel were also refugees but decided to make a life in the new land. For the Palis, sixty years of sitting on their collective asses. What an absolute waste!

"The Haj" is a terrific book that everyone should read. It clarifies many of the problems that we see today. It was written around 1975, and if I didn't know the further history of the area (1975-2007), I would have thought that Uris was exaggerating.

Another good Leon Uris read is "Exodus." It's dated a bit in its romantic aspects--very 1950-ish--but the history of the British and the Taggert forts reminded me once again of the very very nasty British role in the region. Except for Orde Wingate, they were the bad guys.

With or without any sort of documentation it is pretty obvious to anybody with eyes and the ability to read that there was a concerted effort among the Islamic states to drive out anybody who was not Muslim. Christians and Jews were treated the same in this regard.

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With or without any sort of documentation it is pretty obvious to anybody with eyes and the ability to read that there was a concerted effort among the Islamic states to drive out anybody who was not Muslim. Christians and Jews were treated the same in this regard.

Why use the past tense? Still going on.

Humorous OT: Top 10 NYT Headlines on Declining US Casualties.

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With or without any sort of documentation it is pretty obvious to anybody with eyes and the ability to read that there was a concerted effort among the Islamic states to drive out anybody who was not Muslim. Christians and Jews were treated the same in this regard.

Ethnic cleansing? So why can't the Muslims be driven from wherever they have squatted? OK. Politically incorrect.

On the subject of colluding against Jews, how about the present day.

Rice Tapping U.S. Policy Failures for Mideast Success?

Funny thing happened recently. Or, rather, it didn't. A hunk of juicy news broke, hit the wires and fell with a thud into media oblivion. No one cared. And what did no one care about? Let me quote from the original Reuters story: "Anxious not to repeat mistakes of past Middle East peace-making, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has turned to former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for tips ahead of her own conference (in Annapolis) this year."

Wait a minute. Rice has turned to Bill Clinton, who famously told Yasser Arafat, "You have made me a failure," and whose wife, of course, is running for president as the anti-Bush? And to Jimmy "Day 444 of the Hostage Crisis" Carter, who can't stand the Bush administration almost as much as he can't stand Israel? The last time these two ex-presidents got together, they sealed a deal with Kim Jong-Il that, in exchange for a promise to eschew nuclear weapons, delivered nuclear technology to North Korea. She's turning to them for tips?

Rub your eyes in bewilderment, but there's more: "Other sources of advice have been former U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross and ex-secretaries of state James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright." The names to cause special dismay here are James "(expletive) the Jews" Baker, and Madeleine "running wild after Arafat" Albright. (Not that Dennis Ross, who never met a peace process he couldn't draw out, or Henry Kissinger, who may be regarded as the original architect of the U.S. policy that has consistently barred Israel from total victory over her enemies, exactly inspire confidence.)

So let's recap. Rice is "reaching out," as her State Department spokesman put it in New Age diplo-speak, to living legends of failed U.S. policy in the Middle East, including among them some of the most hostile critics of her own Bush administration, the war on terror, Israel or all of the above. This is at least bizarre enough to raise a few questions.

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

Anyone planning on going to the Annapolis meeting? I live about an hour away and wonder if it will be worth going.

And talking about this changes what? The world has no shame, and will continute to have no shame

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On the subject of colluding against Jews, how about the present day.

Rice Tapping U.S. Policy Failures for Mideast Success?

Funny thing happened recently. Or, rather, it didn't. A hunk of juicy news broke, hit the wires and fell with a thud into media oblivion. No one cared. And what did no one care about? Let me quote from the original Reuters story: "Anxious not to repeat mistakes of past Middle East peace-making, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has turned to former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for tips ahead of her own conference (in Annapolis) this year."

Wait a minute. Rice has turned to Bill Clinton, who famously told Yasser Arafat, "You have made me a failure," and whose wife, of course, is running for president as the anti-Bush? And to Jimmy "Day 444 of the Hostage Crisis" Carter, who can't stand the Bush administration almost as much as he can't stand Israel? The last time these two ex-presidents got together, they sealed a deal with Kim Jong-Il that, in exchange for a promise to eschew nuclear weapons, delivered nuclear technology to North Korea. She's turning to them for tips?

Rub your eyes in bewilderment, but there's more: "Other sources of advice have been former U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross and ex-secretaries of state James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright." The names to cause special dismay here are James "(expletive) the Jews" Baker, and Madeleine "running wild after Arafat" Albright. (Not that Dennis Ross, who never met a peace process he couldn't draw out, or Henry Kissinger, who may be regarded as the original architect of the U.S. policy that has consistently barred Israel from total victory over her enemies, exactly inspire confidence.)

So let's recap. Rice is "reaching out," as her State Department spokesman put it in New Age diplo-speak, to living legends of failed U.S. policy in the Middle East, including among them some of the most hostile critics of her own Bush administration, the war on terror, Israel or all of the above. This is at least bizarre enough to raise a few questions.

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I'm curious. This is a serious question and I would hope some serious responses.

I keep on hearing that Republicans, especially the base, are strong supporters of Israel. Unlike those Democrats.

Bush/Rice are leading Israel to a trap at Annapolis. Rice's pressure on Israel is intense.

Just what good does all this Republican support of Israel do in real terms if a despised President, barely surviving on his base of support alone, can strong arm Israel to one sided suicidal concessions?

If the Guardian doesn't like Giuliani, that's a good recommendation in my book!

re: #5 ploome hineni

meanwhile, the beginning of the demonization of our next President

This is one dangerous man: it's

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For those who don;t know, Irving Cotler is an incredible man. You an fit 10 W's and 5 'Condis' into his brain, with room left over for a couple dozen Olmerts.

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I'm curious. This is a serious question and I would hope some serious responses.

I keep on hearing that Republicans, especially the base, are strong supporters of Israel. Unlike those Democrats.

Bush/Rice are leading Israel to a trap at Annapolis. Rice's pressure on Israel is intense.

Just what good does all this Republican support of Israel do in real terms if a despised President, barely surviving on his base of support alone, can strong arm Israel to one sided suicidal concessions?

Well it seems every President in their final months in office seem to get messianic hopes of solving the middle easts problems. In this case I think they are just going Thu the process; however, if they truly ever tried to coherse Israel into signing a suicidal pact, I believe that is when the BASE would come into play. I hope so at least.

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While it is known up to 850,000 Jews left Arab countries after the post-war division of the Palestine mandate, the group is holding a news conference to highlight a rediscovered Arab League “draft law” that suggests a pan-Arab conspiracy was at play.

This lines up with one of my comments yesterday that pointed out the following:

The Jewish people and the State of Israel solved the Jewish refugee problem rapidly and reestablished the Jewish refugees, primarily in Israel. But the Arab governments chose to perpetuate the Arab refugee problem...

It is sobering to reflect that just one day's Arab oil revenues, even in 1949, would have sufficed to solve the entire Arab refugee problem.

IMHO, the real conspiracy here was the Arab decision to leave the Palestinian Arabs squatting in refugee camps rather than lifting a finger to help them. Now, there's an Arab League "draft law" worth finding.

It might be noted that the Jewish communities of the Middle East long pre-dated the Arab invasions and conquests. Some of them went back 2,600 years to the Babylonian Exile.

In contrast, almost all of the "Palestine refugees" had been in Palestine for only a short time -- if at all. The UN definition of a Palestine Refugee is anyone who had lived in Palestine FOR TWO YEARS before 1948.

I know many people in my small town in Israel who came here from Muslim countries, most of them children at the time. Some were expelled by Arab governments, some came joyously for love of Zion once the British could no longer keep them out.

Even before the War of Independence was over, Israel had to cope with mass immigrations of Holocaust survivors from Europe and of Jews from Muslim countries, almost all of them penniless. They spent only a short time in "transition camps" until housing was built for them and they were fully integrated into Israeli society. The US helped with funds, and world Jewry raised money. The UN was totally non-involved.

1944 Co-founder and President of Arab League

1946 British Forgive Husseini

1946 Leader of Muslim Brotherhood

Amin Al-Husseini is appointed leader of Muslim Brotherhood in Jerusalem [xxxviii] . Wahhabi Islam becomes the perfect vector for Husseini’s policy of ethnic cleansing. He uses recently acquired Nazi methodology to implement his vision of an Arab World free of Jews (Juden-Rei in German). [xxxix]

1948-1949 Husseini: “I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.

With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini [xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

[Link: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com...]

That declaration of war has been re-asserted many times in recent decades --from Arafat to Khomeini to Nasrallah to Ahmadinejad. And it's not just against Jews, of course.

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Great research by I. Cotler and others unfortunately reported with all the usual built in bias against Jews and Israel.

Examples.

"where the rights of millions of descendants of up to 600,000 Palestinian refugees of the Arab-Israeli conflict"

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"Only 8,000 Jews remain in 10 Arab countries today that once hosted many more."

The article rightly mentions the fact that about 850,000 Jews "left Arab countries" after the post war division of the Palestinian mandate (i.e. the creation of the State of Israel by the UN).

Question: Why are the Jews who 'left' not called refugees, the term always used in connection with the Palestinians?

Question: How come there is no mention of the "the rights of millions of ( Jewish) descendants" that is always used in reference to the Palestinians?

Since we already know that at least 850,000 Jews became refugees how totally insipid is the line above that can only muster up enough interest or courage to say, that these ten Arab countries, "once hosted many more."

Further, to use the word, "hosted" in reference to how the Arab countries treated the Jews living in these countries gives a nice Orwellian touch to it all.

Frankly, I'd rather not be 'hosted' by any of these or any other Arab state.

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These conferences are never cost free. They are always damaging to Israel.

They always move the goal post permanently against Israel.

If/when the base of supporters of Israel awakes, it will be a day late for the damage that was already done.

Bush/Rice have to be stopped today.

What you are saying is accurate, but remember this conference might very well fall apart all by itself. Also you have to fight the fights you can win.

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what, the Arabs colluding against Jews with the UN's help? I just can't believe it. Do you mean the UN whose Human Rights council gave 75% of its negative reports against Israel last year and only 2% against Burma's dictators(and probably none against any Muslim countries)? The UN that has mantained a separate refugee committee for the Palestinians since forever while every other refugee group in the world(Sudan, Afghan, Burmese) is combined in a second refugee aid group? the overall Un which cannot find a sanction for state sponsored terrorism by Syria, Iraq, the genocide in Sudan but has sanctioned Israel for holding a parade celebrating the reunification of Jerusalem. Captain Reynaud and I are shocked.

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I'm curious. This is a serious question and I would hope some serious responses.

I keep on hearing that Republicans, especially the base, are strong supporters of Israel. Unlike those Democrats.

Bush/Rice are leading Israel to a trap at Annapolis. Rice's pressure on Israel is intense.

Just what good does all this Republican support of Israel do in real terms if a despised President, barely surviving on his base of support alone, can strong arm Israel to one sided suicidal concessions?

I think there are a lot of factors at work.

First off, I believe that it's always a mistake to re-elect just about anyone to a second term if Israel is the main prism by which you vote for candidates. No second term President has yet proved to be as pro-Israel in their second term as in their first. Lot's of structural reasons for that to happen. But let's not forget that,

Secondly, Israel main supporters have always been the Congress, not the Executive Branch. And it hasn't really mattered if Congress is controlled by Democrats or Republicans...both are pro-Israel. However, the ratio of pro-Israel Democrats to anti-Israel Democrats is changing and whether a Democratic controlled Congress with remain pro-Israel is something that the pro-Israel community will have to keep an eye on.

Third, While the Democrats have had anti-Israel jerk-offs such as Jimmy Carter as their party leader, Republicans have had such jerk-offs as George H.W. Bush and his co-president James Baker. Democrats have also had pro-Israel presidents LBJ while the Republicans have had the first term George W. Bush. I believe Clinton's term is compatible with Reagan's in terms of support for Israel. Both supported it and both were willing to squeeze it when push came to shove. People tend to forget Reagan's more anti-Israel actions but they are there in the record.

Finally, let's not forget that Bush is getting a lot of help from Olmert in this current round of Israel National Suicide.

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