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Emerson: Jersey's Counterterror Farce

Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:50:11 pm PST

At the New York Post, Steven Emerson has another piece on yet another government outreach program that reaches out to the wrong people: Jersey’s Counterterror Farce.

November 12, 2007 — THE New Jersey Department of Homeland Security’s counterterrorism conference last month turned out to be a textbook case of exactly what’s wrong with many U.S. counterterror and outreach efforts - a farce that had apologists for terrorism and radical Islam writing the “script” for how to protect Americans from the terrorist threat.

Consider recommendation No. 7 from the final post-conference report:

“Universities can be breeding grounds for radicalization: . . . Most agreed that radicalization is most likely to find a breeding ground in the open environments of our college campuses, and thus it is essential to involve academia in any anti-radicalization strategy.”

True enough - except that a key speaker at the event was Georgetown University professor John Esposito. Esposito calls himself a “very good friend” of Sami Al-Arian - who last year pleaded guilty to a “conspiracy to make or receive contributions of funds, goods or services to or for the benefit of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad” - a terrorist group.

Esposito also heads Georgetown’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding - so named after the Saudi prince gave $20 million to the school. He should be a case study in how universities can promote radicalism, not a member of a panel discussing “anti-radicalization” strategies. ...

In other words, Jersey’s anti-terror conference concluded that we’re not in a war at all.
Finding No. 5 also repeats the claim that we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists: “Because militant Islamist recruiters try to convince followers that Islam is under attack, we must be careful not to inadvertently feed that idea through the language we use.”

Yet burying our head in the sand or refusing to name our enemies are no longer viable options. Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas and other groups justify the use of suicide bombers as a divine, religious rite. It might please the PC crew to describe the enemy as mere “common criminals” or petty thieves - but Americans have a right to know and discuss the belief system driving Islamic terrorists.

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1 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  11/12/07 12:51:21 pm reply quote

Waiting on Jersey expert Jammie...

2 Ben Hur  11/12/07 12:52:39 pm reply quote
Universities can be breeding grounds for radicalization: . . .

He means radical racist Christians/Jews.

Fart, not Farce.

3 JammieWearingFool  11/12/07 12:53:42 pm reply quote

Stephen Flatow knows Islamic terror.

4 JammieWearingFool  11/12/07 12:55:47 pm reply quote

re: #1 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Waiting on Jersey expert Jammie...


When last heard from, the NJ Dept. of Homeland Security was in the news for Jim McGreevey trying to appoint the object of his desire to the top post.

5 Macker  11/12/07 12:56:41 pm reply quote
Esposito also heads Georgetown’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding - so named after the Saudi prince gave $20 million to the school. He should be a case study in how universities can promote radicalism, not a member of a panel discussing “anti-radicalization” strategies.

Funny this article mentions Talal. He just bought (and is going to deck out) an Airbus A380 today for almost half a billion dollars. MOOOOOOOOOOOO!

6 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 12:56:44 pm reply quote

If the enemy isn't Islamic Terrorists/Terrorism (ie: guerra WAR).......who is it?

7 opnion  11/12/07 12:57:59 pm reply quote

......"avoid the use of the terms Muslims or Islam..."
That is actually a big part of the problem , the refusal to name the enemy.
You constantly hear idiotic things like "Islam is no more violent than any other religion" or "Isalm means peace" or "The terrorists are not good Muslims"
People are spoon fed this. Name the enemy and fight it while encouraging Muslims of good will to help.

8 Eowyn2  11/12/07 12:58:19 pm reply quote

re: #6 WrathofG-d

If the enemy isn't Islamic Terrorists/Terrorism (ie: guerra WAR).......who is it?

Menonites
Amish Insurgents trying to take over eastern Ohio and Pennsylvania (you know that last flight went down in PA so obviously the Amish are involved - it was a sling shot)

9 sugiero  11/12/07 12:59:28 pm reply quote

RoP:

Mullah Krekar, created the radical islamic guerrilla force, Ansar al Islam, now known as Ansar Al Sunna. It’s affiliated to Al Qaeda.

Now confident of his position in Norway, Krekar makes extraordinary admissions. He admits training a unit of suicide bombers who have since slaughtered hundreds of men, women and children.
“There’s no different between suicide bombs and using Kalashnikov – what’s the difference when you send the fighters to death”, Krekar tells Foreign Correspondent’s Mark Corcoran.

He explains how, through the internet, he calls on supporters to kill Australian and American troops in Iraq:

“It is allowed for me in Islam to kill him, to kill his translator, to kill the people which give him food and water, give him medicine – all of them”.

10 Maximu§  11/12/07 1:00:15 pm reply quote

My God, talk about a Fox in the HenHouse, now excuse me while I go throw-up.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

11 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:00:18 pm reply quote

re: #8 Eowyn2

re: #6 WrathofG-d


If the enemy isn't Islamic Terrorists/Terrorism (ie: guerra WAR).......who is it?

Menonites
Amish Insurgents trying to take over eastern Ohio and Pennsylvania (you know that last flight went down in PA so obviously the Amish are involved - it was a sling shot)

I am offended that you would use the word "Amish" when discussing this activity. It is offensive, and an obvious indicator of your racism and open Amishophobia, and the scurge of Amishophobia that is ravaging the West and causing the exact behavior that your first identified.

/CAAR

12 varmint  11/12/07 1:04:29 pm reply quote

macker

Funny this article mentions Talal. He just bought (and is going to deck out) an Airbus A380 today for almost half a billion dollars. MOOOOOOOOOOOO!


i hope that thing never gets within 500miles of u.s. airspace.

and from all i hear, the new airbus is a wallowing unbalanced hog.

as for this conference.

these politicians only want a photo op. they need to look like they're doing something. it almost doen't matter who they shake hands with. can't blame to islamists for gaming the system.

13 lawhawk  11/12/07 1:05:01 pm reply quote

re:

14 So?  11/12/07 1:05:35 pm reply quote

OT

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Let's give em a state!

15 buzzsawmonkey  11/12/07 1:05:54 pm reply quote

It's always a mistake to substitute over-the-counter terrorism for counter-terrorism.

16 Terp Mole  11/12/07 1:07:10 pm reply quote
a case study in how universities can promote radicalism

Speaking of case studies;

For Now, They Struggle: An Iraqi-Jewish Perspective on the U.S. Occupation
Wed, NOV 14 @7.30PM
1114 TYDINGS HALL

Dr. Dahlia Wasfi was born in 1971 and spent her early childhood in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, until she returned with her family to the United States in 1977. In February/March of 2004, after years of separation, Wasfi visited Iraq to see her family in Basrah and Baghdad. She journeyed to Iraq again for a 3-month visit in 2006. Based on her experiences, she is speaking out against the negative impact of the U.S. invasion on the Iraqi people and the need to end the occupation.

For more information, email maryland@campusantiwar.net

Co-sponsored by: Peace Forum (a local chapter of the Campus Anti-war Network), Feminism without Borders, the International Socialist Organization, & Students for a Democratic Society

Sample of her scholarly worldview;

We are not fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq; we are slaughtering people’s children. We went in to liberate Iraqis from a ruthless dictator we imposed upon them who allegedly killed 300,000 during his 30 year reign of terror. We’ve accomplished more than triple that in a fraction of the time.

If ever there were legitimate resistance to illegal occupation, it is in Iraq.

17 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:07:16 pm reply quote

OT:

PLO up to their nuanced negotiations tactic again (ie: "we accept the existance of Israel." [Just not as a Jewish State...we love it as a Phakestinian State however....]")

Keep pushing for the Phased Plan Olmert!

18 bald headed geek  11/12/07 1:07:55 pm reply quote

Sigh. What a complete (non) shock. We just don't get it in this state, and apparently, never will.

BHG

19 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:08:53 pm reply quote

re: #11 WrathofG-d

re: #8 Eowyn2


re: #6 WrathofG-d

If the enemy isn't Islamic Terrorists/Terrorism (ie: guerra WAR).......who is it?

Menonites
Amish Insurgents trying to take over eastern Ohio and Pennsylvania (you know that last flight went down in PA so obviously the Amish are involved - it was a sling shot)

I am offended that you would use the word "Amish" when discussing this activity. It is offensive, and an obvious indicator of your racism and open Amishophobia, and the scurge of Amishophobia that is ravaging the West and causing the exact behavior that your first identified.

/CAAR

Once I post my theories on you-tube and the press see the photos of the giant sling shot that I risked my life and limbs to take via a high altitude drone satelite, you will not think I am an Amishophobe. you will realize that I am brilliant and know that the Amish really have laid down their plowshares for slingshots.

21 CheDub  11/12/07 1:09:50 pm reply quote

I had the opportunity to attend this conference a few weeks ago. They actually had speakers who didn't pull punches. Although there were some disagreements on the solution, all acknowledged that Islamism is the problem.

22 wahabicorridor  11/12/07 1:09:52 pm reply quote

Esposito is a fifth column guy if ever I saw one.

23 vapig  11/12/07 1:11:09 pm reply quote

With the current affairs at our indoctrination centers for "higher learning," I'd say the compass for who should be addressing this issue is this: If they are run off the stage and assaulted - Thumbs Up! If they are received with warm applause - Thumbs Down!

24 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:13:02 pm reply quote

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

It's always a mistake to substitute over-the-counter terrorism for counter-terrorism.

rotating title nomination.

25 Cicero05  11/12/07 1:13:13 pm reply quote
"...we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists."

If only we could just start calling them "Christian Fundamentalists." Then nobody would complain.

26 Neo Con since 9-11  11/12/07 1:14:35 pm reply quote
Most agreed that radicalization is most likely to find a breeding ground in the open environments of our college campuses,

Even the many years ago I went, universities were not "open environments". They were generally the most cloistered environments with the professors preaching radicalism. From what I've been told it's only gotten worse.

27 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:14:40 pm reply quote

re: #20 WrathofG-d

OOPS (forgot the first link)

re: #17 WrathofG-d


OT:
28 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:14:44 pm reply quote

re:

29 jcm  11/12/07 1:15:19 pm reply quote

re: #25 Cicero05

"...we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists."

If only we could just start calling them "Christian Fundamentalists." Then nobody would complain.

'Kay, how 'bout Murdering Mohammedan Mob?

30 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:15:48 pm reply quote

re: #25 Cicero05

"...we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists."

If only we could just start calling them "Christian Fundamentalists." Then nobody would complain.


There may even be college courses in how to recognize a Christian Fundamentalist by the way they walk or by the garments they DONT wear (like Burkas)

31 Macker  11/12/07 1:16:12 pm reply quote

re: #29 jcm

re: #25 Cicero05

"...we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists."

If only we could just start calling them "Christian Fundamentalists." Then nobody would complain.

'Kay, how 'bout Murdering Mohammedan Mob?

Nope. 3M wouldn't like that either....

32 lawhawk  11/12/07 1:16:27 pm reply quote

OT:
Iran's crackdown on "vices" is going to be even harsher, and has the backing of Supreme[ly] evil Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

33 Nevergiveup  11/12/07 1:17:13 pm reply quote

In a related story: The NJ Department of Homeland Security announces there is no evidence of any organization called the "Mafia".

34 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:18:02 pm reply quote

re:

35 experiencedtraveller  11/12/07 1:19:29 pm reply quote

A recent NJ headline showed a former school administrator keeps his $91,000/year pension AFTER conviction of misuse of funds.

/Too depressed to find the exact link but there's a lot more...

36 chinesearithmetic  11/12/07 1:19:34 pm reply quote

They're pimps, and i don't mean that in a good way.

37 The Albatross  11/12/07 1:20:20 pm reply quote

So was Pamela/Atlas banned or not?

I am so hating life that I have to go back to work right now.... in a right and just universe I would have a job that recognises Veterans Day and I would have a day off.

BB in about 2 hours with luck and a tailwind.

Keep fighting the good fight lizards....

38 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:20:59 pm reply quote

re:

39 jcm  11/12/07 1:21:12 pm reply quote

re: #32 lawhawk

OT:
Iran's crackdown on "vices" is going to be even harsher, and has the backing of Supreme[ly] evil Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.


What's next, drawing and quartering?

40 lawhawk  11/12/07 1:22:54 pm reply quote

re:

41 commander_vimes  11/12/07 1:24:19 pm reply quote

OT:

Drudge has a low headline that the Pope will go to ground zero when he comes to the US. I predict moonbats saying that if Ahmadinijad couldn't go there, neither can the Pope.

42 jcm  11/12/07 1:24:28 pm reply quote

OT,

Just got a top priority interrupt task to the top priority interrupt task I was working on that interrupted a top priority task.

I think I'm working in Dilbert.

ARGHHH!

43 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:25:03 pm reply quote

re:

44 jcm  11/12/07 1:25:34 pm reply quote

re: #41 commander_vimes

OT:

Drudge has a low headline that the Pope will go to ground zero when he comes to the US. I predict moonbats saying that if Ahmadinijad couldn't go there, neither can the Pope.

All the Catholics got a phone call not to go to work in the towers on 9/11.
/troofer

45 opnion  11/12/07 1:26:08 pm reply quote

re: #26 Neo Con since 9/11

Most agreed that radicalization is most likely to find a breeding ground in the open environments of our college campuses,

Even the many years ago I went, universities were not "open environments". They were generally the most cloistered environments with the professors preaching radicalism. From what I've been told it's only gotten worse.


I think that it has gotten actually worse. I wrote a paper in philosophy lampooning the thoughts of Lenin. My prof was a self described Marist.'
He strogly disagreed with me but gave me an "A".
I do not believe that it would happen today

46 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:28:14 pm reply quote

re:

47 Spider Mensch  11/12/07 1:29:36 pm reply quote

re: #33 Nevergiveup

In a related story: The NJ Department of Homeland Security announces there is no evidence of any organization called the "Mafia".


and in a related, related story...Gov corzine has announced the new New Jersey advertising slogan for next year..."New Jersey and jihad...perfect together!" and to go along with the new slogan for the state, the city of Paterson will be now known as Paterstan effective imediately.
Actually I've been refering to it as Paterstan for awhile now...drive down the main ave....You feel like your in a Pat Dollard or Michael Yon video from fallujah or bagdad.

48 ointmentfly  11/12/07 1:29:57 pm reply quote

How ironic is it that Charles warns against nazis and racists piggybacking while liberals will side with barely cloaked Jihadists as long as they share their anti Bush sentiment....... ? We had a president that trusted everybody once and his name was Jimmah and he remains a huge reason the war on terror.

49 debutaunt  11/12/07 1:30:36 pm reply quote

29 jcm 11/12/07 1:15:19 pm reply quote report 0

re: #25 Cicero05

"...we should avoid the use of the terms “Islam” or “Muslim” when discussing the current threat, lest we play into the hands of the terrorists."
If only we could just start calling them "Christian Fundamentalists." Then nobody would complain.

'Kay, how 'bout Murdering Mohammedan Mob?

Pedophiled has to be in there somewhere.
re:

50 lawhawk  11/12/07 1:31:12 pm reply quote

re:

51 wahabicorridor  11/12/07 1:31:18 pm reply quote

re: #47 Spider Mensch

re: #33 Nevergiveup


In a related story: The NJ Department of Homeland Security announces there is no evidence of any organization called the "Mafia".

and in a related, related story...Gov corzine has announced the new New Jersey advertising slogan for next year..."New Jersey and jihad...perfect together!" and to go along with the new slogan for the state, the city of Paterson will be now known as Paterstan effective imediately.
Actually I've been refering to it as Paterstan for awhile now...drive down the main ave....You feel like your in a Pat Dollard or Michael Yon video from fallujah or bagdad.


Wasn't New Jersey looking for a state motto awhile back? My favorite was "Not all our politicians are crooks!"

52 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:31:32 pm reply quote

re:

53 opnion  11/12/07 1:31:45 pm reply quote

re: #45 opnion

re: #26 Neo Con since 9/11


Most agreed that radicalization is most likely to find a breeding ground in the open environments of our college campuses,

Even the many years ago I went, universities were not "open environments". They were generally the most cloistered environments with the professors preaching radicalism. From what I've been told it's only gotten worse.

I think that it has gotten actually worse. I wrote a paper in philosophy lampooning the thoughts of Lenin. My prof was a self described Marist.'
He strogly disagreed with me but gave me an "A".
I do not believe that it would happen today


He was not a Marist (that would be a priest0 He was a MARXIST. But you knew that

54 jcm  11/12/07 1:32:56 pm reply quote

re: #45 opnion

re: #26 Neo Con since 9/11

Most agreed that radicalization is most likely to find a breeding ground in the open environments of our college campuses,


Even the many years ago I went, universities were not "open environments". They were generally the most cloistered environments with the professors preaching radicalism. From what I've been told it's only gotten worse.


I think that it has gotten actually worse. I wrote a paper in philosophy lampooning the thoughts of Lenin. My prof was a self described Marist.'
He strogly disagreed with me but gave me an "A".
I do not believe that it would happen today

The "honest" profs that encourage and foment open debate are an endangered species on college campuses. 15 years ago I had ONE in the history dept. Fortunately in the hard sciences things are a bit better, expect around the subject of Gorebul Warming.

55 Nevergiveup  11/12/07 1:33:04 pm reply quote

re: #51 wahabicorridor

re: #47 Spider Mensch

re: #33 Nevergiveup


In a related story: The NJ Department of Homeland Security announces there is no evidence of any organization called the "Mafia".


and in a related, related story...Gov corzine has announced the new New Jersey advertising slogan for next year..."New Jersey and jihad...perfect together!" and to go along with the new slogan for the state, the city of Paterson will be now known as Paterstan effective imediately.
Actually I've been refering to it as Paterstan for awhile now...drive down the main ave....You feel like your in a Pat Dollard or Michael Yon video from fallujah or bagdad.


Wasn't New Jersey looking for a state motto awhile back? My favorite was "Not all our politicians are crooks!"

In NJ they are!

56 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:33:33 pm reply quote

All of this is just so overwhelming....the amount of violence, man, and the hatred just really wrecks my chill bro.....I mean....come on human beings............all I am saying is....

..V,

57 WrathofG-d  11/12/07 1:35:26 pm reply quote

re:

58 Catttt  11/12/07 1:38:30 pm reply quote

The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum

(This is the least bad video version - I can't find the original Fun Boy 3 vid).

59 rockman  11/12/07 1:39:16 pm reply quote

Check out Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal's new "flying palace".

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

The Saudi princes are beyond parody.

60 LC LaWedgie  11/12/07 1:42:55 pm reply quote

OT - “Where is the g** ****ing flag? I want the g** ****ing flag up every ***ing morning at ***ing sunrise!” - Hillary, Labor Day 1991

61 justamomof4  11/12/07 1:44:01 pm reply quote

Having grown up in Central Jersey and travelling there frequently, the changes are ominous. There are several new masjids of significant size and stature. I can't say I've seen anything of that scale being built for the Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or Jewish communities in the nearly five decades I've been to the garden state.
OT . . .Is Charles playing with the hamsters again? I cannot access the comments to the previous thread (Tom Paine interview). This is the very first time I've had problems, but only with that thread. I'm wondering if anyone else thought that Mr. Paines' voice and inflection resembles the voice of the host of HGTV's Designing for the Sexes, Michael Payne. Coincidence?

62 Ben Hur  11/12/07 1:45:45 pm reply quote

re: #5 Macker

Esposito also heads Georgetown’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding - so named after the Saudi prince gave $20 million to the school. He should be a case study in how universities can promote radicalism, not a member of a panel discussing “anti-radicalization” strategies.

Funny this article mentions Talal. He
63 Eowyn2  11/12/07 1:45:50 pm reply quote

re:

64 doubledip  11/12/07 1:48:36 pm reply quote
Because militant Islamist recruiters try to convince followers that Islam is under attack, we must be careful not to inadvertently feed that idea through the language we use

Implied --- "Muslims are sheep who can't think for themselves about their religion other than what militant Islamist recruiters tell them. They can't, on their own and by sheer numbers, seem to overcome the minority militant messages of Islam with the allegedly-majority peaceful messages of Islam. And God forbid that we expect militants to civilly modify their behavior and see any "good" in their religion the way we non-Muslims are expected to. Hence we non-Muslims have to carefully craft language to manipulate same Muslim sheep from being manipulated by the extremists in their midst."

Such is the akbar of Allah and Islam?

65 formercorpsman  11/12/07 1:48:57 pm reply quote
New Jersey, after all, had Gov. McGreevey hire his "friend", Golan Cipel as State DHS head, even though he was not only completely unqualified for the position, but wasn't even an American citizen.

I was aware of the other stuff you quoted, and knowing Cipel's background provided no qualifications for the job, but not being a citizen?

Dual, ok, but I would think you need to at least be a citizen of the country.

Interesting.

66 JimmyTheClaw  11/12/07 1:51:59 pm reply quote

re: #51 wahabicorridor

re: #47 Spider Mensch

re: #33 Nevergiveup


In a related story: The NJ Department of Homeland Security announces there is no evidence of any organization called the "Mafia".


and in a related, related story...Gov corzine has announced the new New Jersey advertising slogan for next year..."New Jersey and jihad...perfect together!" and to go along with the new slogan for the state, the city of Paterson will be now known as Paterstan effective imediately.
Actually I've been refering to it as Paterstan for awhile now...drive down the main ave....You feel like your in a Pat Dollard or Michael Yon video from fallujah or bagdad.


Wasn't New Jersey looking for a state motto awhile back? My favorite was "Not all our politicians are crooks!"

my favorite was the sign at the new jersy pennsylvania border that said welcome to pennsylvania america starts here

67 formercorpsman  11/12/07 1:55:28 pm reply quote

I think this points to directly what Charles has been burning the candle for, with respect to the WN angle creeping in to anti-islamist entities that exist.

As long as good people, elected, and charged with upholding our Constitution, and for those not elected, but still having the same responsibilities, have trouble uttering even the names of those who seek to do harm, we have a big problem.

Many will feel they have no option, they will decide to make their bed with the soft presentation of supremacism in the name blowing back against the winds of encroachment, only to have the same animal of a different stripe now growling at the door.

68 Dirk Diggler  11/12/07 2:03:45 pm reply quote

New Jersey's State Motto is "Get Out While You Still Can!"

69 dammad  11/12/07 2:11:45 pm reply quote

Been doing the campus tours with my son...last week we were being led through the campus tour by two students, one pretty normal, the other a moonbat, for sure. There was a Catholic center on campus, and the moonbat was very apologetic and almost embarrassed by its existence. Of course I piped in that I thought it was a good thing to have on campus, and she just rolled her eyes. As we continued, I noticed leaflets all over announcing a "Socialist Awareness" meeting to be held that evening. I asked if that was the politics of the campus. The "normal" (in my eyes) guy jumped in and said absolutely not, all views were welcome and conservatives were abundant. The moonbat just looked at the ground. I think I need to look into this particular school just a bit deeper. If I were smart enough I'd home school the boy, but since he wants to be an engineer I'd better not! Ha ha...

70 Timbre  11/12/07 2:32:18 pm reply quote
"...but Americans have a right to know and discuss the belief system driving Islamic terrorists."

So true, Charles. For all but the insane, there is a belief system driving the action. For many common criminals, it is: "I am entitled to it." And many Muslims -- I'd say about 30%, at least -- think they are entitled to force non-Muslims to submit to Islam.

71 Merovign  11/12/07 2:45:39 pm reply quote

re: #69 dammad

There was a Catholic center on campus, and the moonbat was very apologetic and almost embarrassed by its existence. Of course I piped in that I thought it was a good thing to have on campus, and she just rolled her eyes.

The one thing Liberals can't stand - diversity.

The eye-roll is a nice childish touch. :)

72 Dr. Shalit  11/12/07 3:57:20 pm reply quote

Everyone -

There is hope YET in NJ. We defeated the Embryonic Stem Cell money grab and in the Senatorial District just north of mine elected Jennifer Beck rather than Ellen Karcher, who honestly IS one of the BEST of the bad lot,
after Ellen spent about $5 for every $1 Jennifer did. Our problem now is that our Legislature, Judiciary AND Governor believe in nullification. I have a personal philosophic aversion to recall, and initiative/referendum - BUT - believe me, my patience is wearing THIN! That is all.

-S-

73 mrdriven  11/12/07 5:02:01 pm reply quote

the jersey situation is frightening...

between the bridges and tunnels from NJ to NY and Philadelphia, ports, malls, sports/entertainment arenas our state is chock full of targets...

and everyday on my way to work, state troopers parked in their cars in the bushes blasting radar at people they hope are speeding...

between political correctness and incompetent direction of officer patrols i am surprised our state has not been hit...

i pray for the people of NJ and the rest of the country...

74 dervish8  11/12/07 6:14:20 pm reply quote

Bring back Golan Cipel, the measure of how seriously NJ takes Homeland security.

75 Andy Dufresne  11/12/07 6:29:57 pm reply quote

Nice to see that, as usual, my home state has its act together. Great job as always, Governor Buffoon, er, I mean Corzine. Few people realize what a talentless idiot Corzine is, but I think its finally getting noticed.

76 EE  11/12/07 7:05:59 pm reply quote
Americans have a right to know and discuss the belief system driving Islamic terrorists


-- Steven Emerson

From The Art of War, by Sun Tzu, chapter III (Attack by Stratagem), paragraph 18:

18. Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

Sun Tzu, The Art of War, chapter I (Laying Plans), paragraph 18:

18. All warfare is based on deception.

So it is that, since all warfare is based on deception, the supporters of the Islamists do not want us to know, to discuss, nor to understand the belief system driving Islamic terrorists. But we need to know the enemy, and for that we need to know "the belief system driving Islamic terrorists" as a starting point to knowing the enemy.

77 NamDoc67  11/12/07 7:07:37 pm reply quote

Gov. Jim McGreevey put his "undisputedly unqualified" boyfriend (Golan Cipel) in charge of New Jersey’s Department of Homeland Security a few months after September 11th.

So how seriously do you think they take the responsibility?

Come to think of it, maybe Sharia would be an improvement in New Jersey.

Could this be the new psychological warfare strategy of the Islamofascist lovin' leftists? Corrupt it all bad enough, and the people will welcome the Iron Fist.

78 EE  11/12/07 7:30:50 pm reply quote

re #76 -- deception

Qur'an 5:41 "Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them."

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