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LGF Technical Update: Search Tips

Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 5:55:51 pm PST

Here are some answers to some frequently asked questions about our advanced search feature.

To search for comments by a particular user, make sure the button labeled “Comments” is selected, then use something like this:

"user:zombie"

You need the quotes — and you’ll need to be logged in to search comments.

That example searches for all comments by the username ‘zombie,’ within the time range specified by using the popup calendars.

Oh yes, the popup calendars! To specify the 'To' and 'From' dates, click the little red calendar icons in those fields.

To select a date in the popup calendars, you need to actually click on one of the days in the calendar; exiting with the ‘Close’ button will not change the date.

Searching comments is restricted to 180 days at a time, to avoid putting too much strain on the server. If your ‘From’ date is set to more than 180 days away from your ‘To’ date, it will be adjusted automatically to be 180 days before the ‘To’ date.

Searching front-page LGF posts is not restricted in any way.

Also, there is some support for boolean search operators and wildcard characters to further refine your search terms; see this page at MySQL.com for some examples. (Note: I haven’t implemented the relevance-ranking features yet.)

UPDATE at 11/14/07 10:48:45 am:

The search code gets a little cranky when I extend the maximum number of searchable days to 180, so I've cut it back down to 90 days maximum which seems to work better.

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1 abolitionist  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 5:57:44pm

Bookmarked. Thanks!

2 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:00:37pm

We should add this to the FAQ.

3 Dead Sea Squirrel  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:00:47pm

What about searching for a complete phrase rather than just one word?

4 Charles  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:01:26pm

re: #3 Dead Sea Squirrel

What about searching for a complete phrase rather than just one word?

To search for a complete phrase, put it in double quotes.

5 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:02:10pm

OT:
He was just playing along... With Al Qaeda

A man accused of plotting to bomb the Sears Tower in Chicago testified Tuesday he was "playing along" by pledging allegiance to al-Qaida and that his six co-defendants were not told in advance about the ceremony conducted by a man claiming connections to the terror group.

Narsael Batiste, in his fifth day on the witness stand, said he was not serious about pledging allegiance to al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden and repeated that his main goal in dealing with "Brother Mohammed" — in reality an FBI informant — was to get some $50,000 (€34,230) he had been promised.

"I was really after the money all along," Batiste testified. "I just played along with taking the oath."

Batiste and the other members of the so-called "Liberty City Seven" — including two Haitian nationals — are on trial for allegedly plotting to destroy the Chicago skyscraper and bomb FBI offices in Miami and other cities. The group was named after the run-down Miami neighborhood where they lived.

6 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:03:04pm
7 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:05:16pm

I remember the good ol' days at LGF .....

A steam powered telegraphy component with realtime punch card access and the ability to reply in calligraphy markup language ....

It was just the transmission by smoke signals that was difficult.

8 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:05:49pm

Like Diogenes I search for an honest man.

10 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:08:41pm

re: #9 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

British Airways flying empty planes between UK and USA, Canada because of trouble finding enough flight attendants.

The way air hostesses get treated .. i'm not surprised .. its become a substandard occupation now.

11 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:09:49pm
12 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:10:59pm

Very Severe Tropical Cyclone Sidr

A category 5!

A different image

Indian Met Department cyclone updates.

Not just India!

A Cyclone WATCH has been declared for coastal and island communities from Thursday Is to Cape Flattery.

At 10:00 am EST a Tropical Low with central pressure 997 hectopascals was centred near latitude 11.2 south and longitude 147.1 east which is 440 kilometres east northeast of Lockhart River.


Oh, Storm 2 K thread about Bhola cyclone that started Pakistani civil war, which eventually led to Pakistan-Indian war, which resulted in East Pakistan becoming Bangladesh.

13 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:12:00pm

This is really funny-

"24", the never before seen 1994 pilot episode, sponsored by Microsoft Windows 3.1...[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:19:05pm
15 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:19:46pm

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

Ahh the good old days of Windows 3.1. How I miss it...

/VISTA user

16 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:20:47pm

Modern technology .. so wonderful ...

Now I can use my computer to get half the things done in twice the time ...

Now THATS progress.

17 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:20:49pm

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

Thanks for that! LOL!

18 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:22:06pm

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I was comment #17.
/don't talk about it

19 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:24:39pm

That Nortel phone on the President's desk wasn't around in '94

20 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:27:18pm
21 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:27:20pm
22 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:28:07pm

re: #18 Abu Bin Squid

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I was comment #17.
/don't talk about it

ROFLOL

23 Dead Sea Squirrel  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:29:28pm

Lots of Reuters snoops the last two days. Is the A-J blog brawl news?

24 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:31:16pm

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race.

/I still can't believe that actually occurred here

25 Carridine  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:32:06pm

Participating in LGF often feels like attending a practical workshop in a post-graduate class in Research, Analysis and Logic...

...and I'm here to extract full benefit of the study!

26 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:35:06pm

re: #24 Killian Bundy

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race.

/I still can't believe that actually occurred here

Lets discuss technical aptitude and gender.

/ducks

27 Charles  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:35:13pm

re: #24 Killian Bundy

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race.

/I still can't believe that actually occurred here

Not surprised here, unfortunately. This issue has been a real eye-opener.

28 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:39:12pm

Holy crap...I miss a few hours and come back to see I missed a mole in the FBI and a troll with nuke blueprints.

Has this made the MSM yet or is LGF ahead of them again?

29 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:39:36pm

re: #25 Carridine

Research, Analysis and Logic...

Analysis is the breaking of the whole. Where lysis is the breaking part, and the other part is the the other part.

30 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:40:31pm

Charles,

I did not know about the 180 search window.

I read the My SQL page and just wanted to see responses I may have not had a chance to see because a lot of my posting is "drive by".

Hope the DB squirrels are OK.

31 stevieray  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:41:33pm

Semi OT: I have a tech question, and I need to tap into the Great Lizard Brain.

Last night, I plugged in the most recent version of Windows Media Player and now I cannot get the damn thing to display the way it used to.

I like to play streaming video inside a small skin, set off to the side, so I can continue to surf in the other tabs in my browser [firefox 2.0.0.8 or .9 (whichever is the latest version)].

Now, WMP opens up as a full screen version, in a separate tab, and I can't get it to change into a smaller skin version [always on top mode]. There is no "views" tab with the new WMP format [consequently, no "choose skins" option], the "right click" to open the classic menu doesn't open the classic menu anymore, and the "ctrl+M" trick also opens the same useless menu.

Anybody know any fixes for this? Or do I have to strip WMP from firefox and download an older version? I'd like to keep the new version if possible -- the video seems to play smoother [less stop/start herky jerkyness].

32 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:42:29pm

Let's discuss when I am legally allowed to clone Scarlett Johansson.

33 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:45:12pm

re: #32 blackpajamas

You got the 100M (euro) its going to take to get that done Mr. Saudi Prince?

/extreme sarc

34 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:45:16pm

re: #24 Killian Bundy

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race.

/I still can't believe that actually occurred here

OK, not all of us NASCAR fans are rednecks...Some of us have college degrees, and advanced ones at that...

35 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:45:43pm

Migrants fiasco doubles in a day as 10,000 illegal entrants could be in security jobs

The scale of the latest immigration shambles could be twice as bad as the Government has admitted - with almost 10,000 illegals cleared to work in security jobs.

Official figures forced out of the Government suggest that one in every four licences given to security workers from outside the EU could have gone to someone with no right to be in Britain.

Home Office officials were insisting on Monday that the figure was only 5,000.

Dragged to the Commons to explain herself, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith admitted that ministers became aware of the problem eight months ago.

They were warned in April that an illegal immigrant had even been allowed to guard the Prime Minister's car - but failed to alert MPs or the public.

Miss Smith also revealed that she had not informed the Prime Minister when she first learned that illegal immigrants were being employed in the security industry.

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis accused the Government of "blunder, panic and cover-up" and poured scorn on Gordon Brown's promise of a "different type of politics, a more open and honest dialogue".

But astonishingly, Miss Smith insisted there had been "no fiasco" and tried to lay the blame at the door of employers who took on illegal immigrants.

They are just doing the jobs most Brits won't do.

36 Carridine  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:45:47pm

re: #29 blackpajamas

Yeah, LMAO, we shared this in med school...

/but if you think that professor's quizzies are dificult, just wait, 'cuz his testies are hairy!

37 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:47:23pm

re: #34 Bob in Breckenridge

I have hardly seen a college degree and IQ as serviceable as someone willing to apply themselves to something constructive and beneficial.

38 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:48:29pm

re: #27 Charles

re: #24 Killian Bundy


Hey, lets discuss IQ and race.

/I still can't believe that actually occurred here


Not surprised here, unfortunately. This issue has been a real eye-opener.


Did I miss something last thread, or are folks still discussing the Rushton-Jensen study that used data from almost forty years ago?

39 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:48:47pm

re: #37 unclassifiable

Well said...

40 Charles  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:51:28pm

re: #38 Thanos

re: #27 Charles

re: #24 Killian Bundy

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race./I still can't believe that actually occurred here

Not surprised here, unfortunately. This issue has been a real eye-opener.

Did I miss something last thread, or are folks still discussing the Rushton-Jensen study that used data from almost forty years ago?

Yes, it's at the end of yesterday's Kilo-Thread.

41 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:51:36pm

re: #33 unclassifiable

re: #32 blackpajamas

You got the 100M (euro) its going to take to get that done Mr. Saudi Prince?

/extreme sarc

Certainly, human cloning would be quite expensive. However, if it is possible for people to store their genetic material for many years, one could store one's genetic material with the expectation of appreciation on that material.

One could then write "shares" or "options" (based on those shares), and create a genetic-material trading market. Who knows, perhaps on some quite (and possibly perverted) corner of EBay, people are already doing this.

It would be interesting to see how the spot prices for such shares change with time. How much is 5 doses of Paris Hilton going to trade when people see what she looks like at age 50?

42 zmdavid  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:54:12pm

re: #32 blackpajamas

Let's discuss when I am legally allowed to clone Scarlett Johansson.

That was the plot of a movie from a couple of years ago.

43 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:54:13pm

/sick warning!

How much is 5 doses of Paris Hilton going to trade when people see what she looks like at age 50?

How about this for an ethical problem?

Some people would buy them just to SHOOT them!

44 swamprat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:56:07pm

If any of your mothers are still alive I recommend that you give them a kiss and tell them you love them.......or.........make sure that return the "favor" that they gave you one year, and buy them socks and underwear (not frilly!) for Cristmas!
missed opportunities!

45 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 6:59:48pm

YouTube flags Tancredos open borders ad as inappropriate for anyone under 18. Jihadi beheadings, stonings of females, and Muslim roadside bombings rated G. Hmmmm
[Link: www.wnd.com...]

46 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:00:39pm

re: #40 Charles

re: #38 Thanos


re: #27 Charles
re: #24 Killian Bundy

Hey, lets discuss IQ and race./I still can't believe that actually occurred here

Not surprised here, unfortunately. This issue has been a real eye-opener.

Did I miss something last thread, or are folks still discussing the Rushton-Jensen study that used data from almost forty years ago?

Yes, it's at the end of yesterday's Kilo-Thread.


Ok yeah I remember now. He's referencing the 2005 Rushton Jensen study, a bit disputed, that used data not normed or questioned for other factoers, and forty years old. If you have to dig back forty years to get data that supports your thesis, are you stretching? Wouldn't you be better served by performing actually normed testing now?
The fact is that when you do testing of 3-8 year olds there's little deviation of norms (black children are .995 to to Asians 1.000, and statistically indistinquisable from white's scorrs.) Asians also have a tendency to intensely school children at earlier ages.

47 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:01:44pm

I blew out my keyboard, now the keys all stick. grrr

48 swamprat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:01:49pm

re: #43 unclassifiable


re: #43 unclassifiable

/sick warning!


How much is 5 doses of Paris Hilton going to trade when people see what she looks like at age 50?

Paris Hilton strain #3 burned though the test tube it was in, through the desk it was sitting on, through the concrete slab comprising the second floor, and almost got into the water supply!
49 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:03:52pm

re: #42 zmdavid

Must contact Michael Bay...

Hold the presses!

Using the handy-dandy LGF search function, when I enter the search string "Scarlett Johansson", I get the thread from 2004, about the stars who donated time to create little anti-Bush videos!

"30-second videos are the work of artists including directors Rob Reiner, John Sayles and Benny Boom, musician Moby, comedians Margaret Cho and Al Franken, and actors Kevin Bacon, Matt Damon and Scarlett Johansson." [1]

She's... she's... a... a Moby!

I must now clone Ms. Johansson to administer a spanking.

50 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:03:56pm

re: #40 Charles

I'm starting to get worried about the silence from the antiJihad blogs. Hot Air put up a nice thread about it but Spencer's blanket condemnation but a bit weak for me. Nothing from Miss Malkin, Jihad Watch, Jawa Reort, etc.
Silence is consent and I'm disappointed by the lack of noise.

51 rw in san diego  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:04:53pm

I'm watching Voices of 9/11 on National Geographic channel. Chilling and well worth watching. Never forget.

52 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:05:13pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Migrants fiasco doubles in a day as 10,000 illegal entrants could be in security jobs

The scale of the latest immigration shambles could be twice as bad as the Government has admitted - with almost 10,000 illegals cleared to work in security jobs.

Official figures forced out of the Government suggest that one in every four licences given to security workers from outside the EU could have gone to someone with no right to be in Britain.

Home Office officials were insisting on Monday that the figure was only 5,000.

Dragged to the Commons to explain herself, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith admitted that ministers became aware of the problem eight months ago.

They were warned in April that an illegal immigrant had even been allowed to guard the Prime Minister's car - but failed to alert MPs or the public.

Miss Smith also revealed that she had not informed the Prime Minister when she first learned that illegal immigrants were being employed in the security industry.

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis accused the Government of "blunder, panic and cover-up" and poured scorn on Gordon Brown's promise of a "different type of politics, a more open and honest dialogue".

But astonishingly, Miss Smith insisted there had been "no fiasco" and tried to lay the blame at the door of employers who took on illegal immigrants.

They are just doing the jobs most Brits won't do.

14 were just fired at an airport inAmaerica. All has HS clearances. Chertoff is as dumb as a stick and as incompetent as a human being can be.

53 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:06:44pm

re: #40 Charles

I missed that. Wow.

54 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:07:52pm

re: #49 blackpajamas

comedians Margaret Cho and Al Franken,

Eewww. Two of the most obnoxious humans on the planet. Bleah.

55 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:08:00pm

re: #36 Carridine

re: #29 blackpajamas

Yeah, LMAO, we shared this in med school...

/but if you think that professor's quizzies are dificult, just wait, 'cuz his testies are hairy!

Hairy WHAT?

56 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:09:17pm

Damn. Work is really interfering with my time on LGF.

57 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:09:19pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

re: #40 Charles

I'm starting to get worried about the silence from the antiJihad blogs. Hot Air put up a nice thread about it but Spencer's blanket condemnation but a bit weak for me. Nothing from Miss Malkin, Jihad Watch, Jawa Reort, etc.
Silence is consent and I'm disappointed by the lack of noise.

I don't look for anyone else to be taking sides, we presented the facts, the invective flew, time will tell. Nobody's going to publically disavow, they will just quietly distance themselves.

58 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:09:35pm

re: #46 Thanos

The fact is that when you do testing of 3-8 year olds there's little deviation of norms (black children are .995 to to Asians 1.000, and statistically indistinquisable from white's scorrs.) Asians also have a tendency to intensely school children at earlier ages.


I have no real problem if there are minor genetic differences in regards to IQ. However it becomes a seriously dangerous problem when they label average blacks as borderline retarded and that they're lower pay and social status is the result of their racial deficiencies. I really hope that none of the blogs printing that crap have children in public schools.

59 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:10:20pm

re: #40 Charles

Yes, it's at the end of yesterday's Kilo-Thread.

I never liked that guy from the get-go. Mostly for his blog-pimping.

60 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:12:09pm

re: #6 taxfreekiller

That's the Daisy video of 2008.

There is still a long way to go.

61 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:12:49pm

re: #57 Thanos

Nobody's going to publically disavow, they will just quietly distance themselves.


I don't think that's enough. I'm really starting to believe that American White Nationalists and neoNazis are going to learn from Vlaams Belang and adopt their rhetoric to the antiJIhad movement. They have to know in no uncertain terms that they are not welcome.

62 shanimal1918  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:12:54pm

OT rotflmao:

"We have always sought to represent a diversity of views in Newsweek, and we think Markos will be a great part of that tradition," said Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham. "He will give our readers in print and online a unique perspective.

Newsweak hired kos! He brings the unique perspective of a moron to the weakest moonbat magazine best used to line the kitty litter box.

63 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:13:48pm

re: #54 gop_patriot

One must careful in the choosing of one's Chos.

Here's my favorite Cho (Henry), talking about genetics (of all things!).

64 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:14:23pm

re: #62 shanimal1918

If that was a sailboat it would be going in counterclockwise circles.

65 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:15:02pm

Spitzer scuttles licenses for illegals plan

Cratering poll numbers and pressure from Team Pantsuit very large factors.

Still, another victory for the rightwing noise machine!

66 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:15:05pm

Minorities, Race, and Genomics

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.

/Human Genome Project

67 the_flying_pig  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:16:53pm

Aren't you helping CAIR, Islamofascists and political moonbats to search out Lizardoids' comments to be used against them, Charles?

Just asking...

68 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:18:32pm

re: #63 blackpajamas

re: #54 gop_patriot

One must careful in the choosing of one's Chos.

Here's my favorite Cho (Henry), talking about genetics (of all things!).

HA! That's great! I saw him on Designing Women once, they were on a plane, going to or coming from Japan, I think. Suzanne assumed he didn't speak English, and was talking to him like he was stupid and/or deaf. Then he finally spoke up with that Southern accent. It was a great episode. :)

69 Highrise  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:20:49pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

re: #57 Thanos


Nobody's going to publically disavow, they will just quietly distance themselves.

I don't think that's enough. I'm really starting to believe that American White Nationalists and neoNazis are going to learn from Vlaams Belang and adopt their rhetoric to the antiJIhad movement. They have to know in no uncertain terms that they are not welcome.

I tend to agree with you on this, KT. I like to peruse malkin and jihadwatch and I look to them to tell us what the MSM won't and what is going on in the world so we can stop things. Seeing not much said on the subject does make me wonder.

70 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:21:20pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

re: #57 Thanos


Nobody's going to publically disavow, they will just quietly distance themselves.

I don't think that's enough. I'm really starting to believe that American White Nationalists and neoNazis are going to learn from Vlaams Belang and adopt their rhetoric to the antiJIhad movement. They have to know in no uncertain terms that they are not welcome.


They already have, you can recognize them pretty quickly. They are mostly Paulists atm btw, so we don't have as many as we used to. That's another thing that was done to weed-out the wack-jobs. We don't need the conservative version of code-pink riding our coat-tails, anymore than William F. Buckley needed the Birchers detracting from his message.

71 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:25:32pm

You know what always cheers me up? Supernatural Graffiti.....
Virgin Mary seen in a sycamore tree that was burned by wildfires

72 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:26:05pm

WOW

Do or die

Spc. Channing Moss should be dead by all accounts. And those who saved his life did so knowing they might have died with him.

Watch the video

March 16, 2006. Southeastern Afghanistan. A fierce ambush and bloody firefight. It was over in a flash and Moss was left on the verge of death.

He was impaled through the abdomen with a rocket-propelled grenade, and an aluminum rod with one tail fin protruded from the left side of his torso.

His fellow soldiers worried: Could he blow up and take them with him? For all anyone knew, the answer was yes.

Still, over the course of the next couple of hours, his buddies, a helicopter crew and a medical team would risk their own lives to save his.

“Moss is an African-American and he’s gone to white. He’s in total shock from the loss of blood. But at the time, I really didn’t think about it. I knew [the RPG] was there but I thought, if we didn’t do it, if we didn’t get him out of there, he was going to die,” said flight medic Sgt. John Collier, 29, then a specialist.

“It was an extremely unusual set of events. He should have died three times that day,” said Maj. John Oh, 759th Forward Surgical Team general surgeon.

The 36-year-old’s surgical skill and command of his own nerves would be put to the ultimate test as, wearing helmet and body armor, he would operate to extract the ordnance from Moss’s booby-trapped body. One wrong move risked the lives of the patient, his own and those of the other members of the medical team.

He said the payoff was worth the gamble.

“For a soldier to be struck by an RPG and be flown and have surgery and survive … it’s unheard of,” said Oh. “It was a pretty remarkable experience.”

Read the rest.

73 RTLM  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:26:55pm

AP Reviews "Redacted"

Certainly this is a story that people need to know about, if they didn't know it already.

Worthless traitors all

74 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:26:59pm
75 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:27:26pm

re: #70 Thanos
They do seem to mostly be Paulists.

Babba Zee sent me to the link for the stormfront website and they have a Ron Paul Ad there.

76 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:28:48pm

This is a link for any anti-american europeans who happen to be checking the LGF threads. This is part of why our heterogeneous society here in the US is successful:

"The study, to be released today, is a careful, detailed piece of research by professional economists that avoids political judgments. But what it does do is show beyond doubt that the U.S. remains a dynamic society marked by rapid and mostly upward income mobility. Much as they always have, Americans on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder continue to climb into the middle and sometimes upper classes in remarkably short periods of time."


[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

A present-day revival of sumptuary laws will be insufficient to solve your
problem of unassimilated immigrants.
[Link: podiatry.curtin.edu.au...]

77 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:29:18pm

OT: Hugo and Dec 2nd.


Venezuelans may give their president the power to restrict oil production -- and cause a global recession.
By Michael Rowan and Douglas Schoen
November 13, 2007
On Dec. 2, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez can tip the world into a recession.

On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot, Chavez will essentially be granted dictatorial powers -- an elected strongman reminiscent of Spain's Franco, Italy's Mussolini and Orwell's Big Brother. The day could easily deteriorate into one of violence, martial law and suspension of oil production, the latter calculated to inflict maximum damage on the U.S. economy.

With the price of oil hovering near $100 a barrel and markets skittish because of the sub-prime housing crisis (not to mention the stability of U.S. banks, the U.S. trade deficit, the weak dollar and deteriorating domestic consumer confidence), such a move on Chavez's part would go a long way in triggering a recession. An oil crisis during the Christmas season -- with its 40% share of annual retail sales -- would be especially detrimental in the U.S.

Rising oil prices have caused global recessions in the past. The Saudis and other oil-producing countries have tried to increase output to offset rising costs. But working against stability and for high oil prices are Chavez and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who are in a strategic alliance to push up the price of oil.

Oil economists calculate that on a supply-and-demand basis alone, the price of oil would be about $50; the remaining $45 in the current price is a political premium caused by uncertainty in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Iran's suspected nuclear plans, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and social unrest in Pakistan, Nigeria and Venezuela. But where the world sees a threat, Ahmadinejad and Chavez see opportunity: Civil discord lines their pockets.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-schoen13 nov13,0,6554818.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

78 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:31:48pm

re: #77 Syrah

On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot,

I have a feeling that no matter what the people of Venezuela actually vote, these amendments will "pass" anyway.

/Chavez, why don't you shut up?

79 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:32:17pm
80 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:32:42pm

re: #78 gop_patriot

re: #77 Syrah

On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot,

I have a feeling that no matter what the people of Venezuela actually vote, these amendments will "pass" anyway.

/Chavez, why don't you shut up?

And Jimmy Carter will certify it.

81 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:33:22pm

re: #78 gop_patriot

re: #77 Syrah


On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot,

I have a feeling that no matter what the people of Venezuela actually vote, these amendments will "pass" anyway.

/Chavez, why don't you shut up?


Is Jimmy Crater (sic) going to certify the elections? The Marxist or Islamist disctator always wins when Jimmy monitors the elections.

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:35:30pm
83 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:35:52pm

re: #77 Syrah

LOL, yeah that make Venezuela almost as fun as a Muslim hellhole. Chavez really does not understand economics. I mean he REALLY is stupid. Nothing would be better for the rest of the world. Chavez and his minions will die in a hail of gunfire within months if he tries that.

84 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:37:27pm

re: #79 taxfreekiller

Wow, saw that thing of post #72 back in I-corps (there is a photo) , seems it was a VC or a NVA it was just under the skin right chest , they took him to the mash at Marble Mountain Marine Air Facility and removed it, there are photos I think in the III Marine I-Corps thingey from the time. WOW.

Fickle finger of Fate does the strange.


What's great is seeing the guy walking around almost normally. That vid brought tears to my eyes the first time I saw it.

85 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:37:53pm
86 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:38:16pm

OT:
The real army has moved into SWAT, FWIW.

Peshawar, Nov 13 : The Pakistan Army has been deployed in the Swat Valley to crush a lingering insurgency.

"Yes, the army has taken over command in Swat from Monday and will lead security forces to eliminate militancy," Military Spokesman, Major-General Waheed Arshad, said.

Asked if paramilitary forces had failed to bring the situation under control, he said the forces had taken action, but the situation had not improved.

Major-General Arshad said the army was deployed at the request of the NWFP Government.

Security forces have arrested a top militant accused of harbouring al Qaeda insurgents, beheading troops and supplying arms to Maulana Fazlullah, officials said.

"He is under interrogation. The man identified himself as Parwant and says he is local," Major-General Arshad said, adding the man's real name was not known.

Locals said the clashes have erupted in the Valley after two helicopters came under fire in Matta. They confirmed that militants had captured anti-aircraft guns from the security forces.

They said the troops and law-enforcement personnel had not made ground advance on areas held by militants.

Three helicopters carried out intense shelling on suspected militants' positions in Pir Kali, Sambet Chowk and Sairi.

Sources said that one militant was killed and five were injured in the attack. A civilian was killed when a mortar shell reportedly fired from a FC camp in Kabal hit his shop at Koza Bandae.

Fazlullah's spokesman, Maulana Sirajuddin, said that three Taliban had suffered minor injuries.

Militants say they will not surrender or end their movement without achieving their objectives.

"We will lay down arms when the government enforces Sharia in Swat; otherwise we're ready to die," Maulana Mohammad Alam, the commander of the militants in Khwazakhela, said.

On October 24, the NWFP government had dispatched hundreds of paramilitary forces and police to establish the state's writ in parts of the Swat valley under control of Fazlullah.

Officials believe that Fazlullah, who has set up his own government and courts, has some 4, 000 armed supporters in Swat, the Dawn reported.

At present, six of the eight sub-districts of Swat are under the control of militants. Educational institutions in the area are closed and law-enforcement personnel have abandoned government installations.

87 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:39:11pm
88 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:40:40pm

re: #83 pat

Hugo will likely just be another face on a t-shirt in time. Another dead revolutionary making money for capitalist street vendors.

89 Dead Sea Squirrel  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:40:53pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I don't think they can use the same strategies in America. There is apparently a sizable portion of the Euro population that is sympathetic to a "soft" nationalistic racism, as epitomized in this short-lived comment on the Miniter post:

We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily.


Quintessentially European, isn't it? How much support for that sentiment exists in America? The skinhead contingent in America is tiny and cannot hope to enhance their clout by appeal to such sentiments, which will take you nowhere on this side of the Atlantic.

90 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:40:55pm

Yet another antiwar movie in the making...

[Link: story.malaysiasun.com...]

Bruce Willis won't be seen by me anymore, this one by Oliver Stone, to be financed by Tom Cruise. Time to stop feeding both money.

91 dentate  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:41:20pm
92 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:41:47pm

re: #86 Thanos

Locals said the clashes have erupted in the Valley after two helicopters came under fire in Matta. They confirmed that militants had captured anti-aircraft guns from the security forces.

Curious. Why would anti-aircraft guns be deployed against al Qaeda?

93 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:42:44pm
94 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:43:10pm
95 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:43:47pm

re: #81 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Believe me they are certified already.

96 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:45:00pm

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Wow. Amazing story.

97 DocDublU  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:45:23pm

re: #73 RTLM

Redacted plays tomorrow night on HDMovieNet. I have DirecTV, so i'll get it here in Az around 6 pm. I'm going to watch and report back and not prejudge it tonite. However, I am predisposed to be very critical of a movie that depicts our soldiers as rapists and murderers in a propagandized attempt at an anti-war message. That being said, here is the wedsite address of Mark Cuban, the billiionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks and the Exec Producer of Redacted. He has his own blog and has already begun a war of words with Bill O'Reilly over this moive.

[Link: www.blogmaverick.com...]

98 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:45:40pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin'

re: #86 Thanos


Locals said the clashes have erupted in the Valley after two helicopters came under fire in Matta. They confirmed that militants had captured anti-aircraft guns from the security forces.

Curious. Why would anti-aircraft guns be deployed against al Qaeda?

AA guns are useful for other things as well, in North Africa they were one of the few armaments effective against Rommel's tanks for instance.
Usually in places like Swat there are three to four levels of paths that run through the mountains above the vallies, and there are summer "high houses" made of stone in high position. Effectively bunkers near the hill and mountain tops, AA guns work well against them.

99 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:46:05pm

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

I thought that was Elvis in a burka.

Elvis has left the burka.

100 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:47:49pm

The AA referred to most likely however was missiles, and in Pakistan and Afghanistan they are all "multipurposed".

101 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:48:10pm

re: #92 Noam Sayin'

Noam?

102 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:48:31pm
103 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:49:14pm

re: #98 Thanos

Makes sense. Wasn't thinking, I guess.

104 dentate  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:49:20pm

re: #94 savage_nation

re: #91 dentate

You gotta love this: granddaughter of Holocaust victims joins task force to prevent West Bank "genocide"

Why the hell isn't she at home making a brisket?

There was something seriously wrong with parents that converted to avoid persecution, whose own parents were then all killed in the Holocaust, and who never bothered to pass along that little tidbit of family history, while at the same time considering themselves international diplomats. Weirdness, generation after generation--same as in Kerry's family. At least he is not out there picketing for the Palestinians as Albright seems to be.

And the most repugnant part of it is that these lowlifes use the phrase "never again" back at the Israelis. The blood boils...

105 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:49:36pm

re: #93 taxfreekiller

Hollieweird is an infection,
do not feed an infection,
starve it out.

I'm down with that.

106 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:49:52pm

re: #101 DesertSage

re: #92 Noam Sayin'

Noam?

Hi, Sage.

107 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:51:43pm

re: #106 Noam Sayin'

How ya doin' buddy?

108 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:52:03pm

re: #102 savage_nation

Savage?

109 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:52:13pm

re: #107 DesertSage

Each day, a little better.

110 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:52:36pm

Tom Cruise belives in space aliens exiled by an evil Lord Xenu, flown to Earth in spaceships that bear an uncanny resemblance to the 1950s passenger jet, the Douglas DC-8, and cause all of mankind's mental health issues.

All you really need to know about him.

111 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:52:51pm
112 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:52:57pm

re: #89 Dead Sea Squirrel

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I don't think they can use the same strategies in America. There is apparently a sizable portion of the Euro population that is sympathetic to a "soft" nationalistic racism, as epitomized in this short-lived comment on the Miniter post:


We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily.

Quintessentially European, isn't it? How much support for that sentiment exists in America? The skinhead contingent in America is tiny and cannot hope to enhance their clout by appeal to such sentiments, which will take you nowhere on this side of the Atlantic.

I diagnose severe issues with toilet training.

113 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:53:42pm

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Thank you NJDhockeyfan.

114 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:53:59pm

re: #97 DocDublU

Some soldiers from Ft. Campbell did do what the movie portrays.

115 christheprofessor  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:54:37pm
116 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:54:53pm
117 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:55:02pm

re: #112 MandyManners

"We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily."

The TV Dinner Theory of Human Relations.

118 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:55:07pm

Here we go again...

Group Claims Violation Of Civil Rights

AMARILLO -- They say their civil rights have been violated. Now a group of Muslim Somalians are seeking legal action. Last week they quit their jobs at Swift because they say they weren't allowed to pray at work. As President of The Somalian Community Association, Hassan Shire is taking on a giant. Last Tuesday, about seventy Muslim Somalians walked out at the end of their shift at Swift, a Meat Packing Plant in Cactus. As Muslims, Shire claims management won't allow the group to pray at work. "So the people they decided, if they cannot accept our religion to pray over there, we cannot go back over there," says Shire of the Somalian Community Association. Shire is representing them and the groups religious rights. "It's everything for me," says Shire about his religion. Now the group is calling on the NAACP for advice. "It is always our goal to try and resolve any type of allegations or complaint at the lowest level possible," says Floyd Anthony the President of the local chapter of the NAACP. Anthony says a lack of understanding on both sides is to blame. "They've been told that in America they can have freedom of religious expression. In America they could worship the way that they want, they could worship their religion and then with this utopia idea of what America means to each of them they take this into the new community that they come into and now into their jobs," says Anthony. But Shire says they're not asking for too much. Muslims are required to pray five times a day. "They asking for two times of prayer. One is four to four-thirty p.m. and the other is at sunset," says Shire. But Shire says management said no. Now they're taking the next step in living their American Dream, they're getting an attorney. About six hundred Muslims of African Descent live in Amarillo. We tried several different times to try and get ahold of Swift but they wouldn't return any of our calls. Tonight, the NAACP voted to get involved in the issue. They decided to support the employees.

119 dentate  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:55:41pm

re: #117 jaunte

re: #112 MandyManners

"We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily."

The TV Dinner Theory of Human Relations.

But my peas always overflowed into the apple cobbler...

120 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:56:25pm

re: #113 unclassifiable

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Thank you NJDhockeyfan.


Your welcome. That is one of the best things I have ever read on the internet. I wish Charles did war hero threads.

121 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:56:48pm
122 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:56:57pm

This Comedian says, you must rock.

(Actual rockin' starts @ 2:13, watch out for the flash pot @ 3:25).

123 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:57:16pm

re: #109 Noam Sayin'

That's good to hear.

124 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:57:43pm

re: #54 gop_patriot

What if they mate?

/really bad sarc

125 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:58:01pm

re: #119 dentate

you always wind up with humid beans....

126 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:58:10pm

Very Severe Tropical Cyclone Sidr, now probably a Category 5, possibly headed for Calcutta.

127 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:59:05pm

re: #120 NJDhockeyfan

I'd like to add my thanks, for posting that story. I had my son and wife watch it, too.

128 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:59:26pm
129 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 7:59:54pm

re: #115 christheprofessor

Not one for ventriloquist acts, but that's a good hook.

130 dentate  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:00:08pm

re: #126 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Very Severe Tropical Cyclone Sidr, now probably a Category 5, possibly headed for Calcutta.

"Tropical Cyclone Sidr" sounds like an drink made from fermented apples.

131 Highrise  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:00:24pm

re: #118 NJDhockeyfan


The good ole naacp, the group that backed up michael vick!


In America they could worship the way that they want, they could worship their religion and then with this utopia idea of what America means to each of them they take this into the new community that they come into and now into their jobs," says Anthony. But Shire says they're not asking for too much. Muslims are required to pray five times a day. "They asking for two times of prayer. One is four to four-thirty p.m. and the other is at sunset," says Shire. But Shire says management said no.

Uhh..that is an hour out of the work day they are asking for. In some jobs, taking a 30 min chunk from many people would shut down a line.

132 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:00:31pm
133 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:00:41pm

re: #110 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Tom Cruise has been pampered ever since year dot in the Industry. So, he suffers from what any guy who literally has a series of 'yes' men at his beck and call. If he's a three foot clown with magic powers .. the people around him will just nod and move on ... as long as he pays the bills ....

THIS is what leftism is all about .. a pampered .. well watered fantasy about what the world should be like .. about what it could be like .. if only we get our way totally ... if only things go OUR way .. things get better.

Its a well watered fantasy .. whether its socialist .. dictatiorial .. or manic. But its far from real.

134 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:00:53pm

re: #128 taxfreekiller

Ted can with a three double double martinis.

135 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:01:30pm
136 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:01:40pm

re: #117 jaunte

re: #112 MandyManners

"We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily."

The TV Dinner Theory of Human Relations.

Bet they never spooned black-eyed peas and the juices onto their cornbread.

137 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:01:51pm

re: #132 savage_nation

He actually looks like my 16yr. old son...

138 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:02:33pm
139 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:03:18pm

re: #133 Buster Bunny

Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Pol Pot, Kim Il Jung

Do these poseurs really think they are going to get a shot at running things in a socialist utopia?

140 christheprofessor  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:04:09pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

Yes, it is. Pretty funny, though that's a longer clip than I thought when I posted it (the one I was e-mailed was apparently abridged)....

141 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:04:33pm
142 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:04:42pm

re: #136 MandyManners

re: #117 jaunte

re: #112 MandyManners

"We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily."

The TV Dinner Theory of Human Relations.

Bet they never spooned black-eyed peas and the juices onto their cornbread.

A quaint colonial dish, wot?

143 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:04:56pm

re: #140 christheprofessor

Yo CTP!

144 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:06:18pm
145 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:06:37pm

re: #138 Thanos

Here's their site:

[Link: www.allahmademefunny.com...]

146 christheprofessor  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:06:42pm

re: #143 unclassifiable

Hey, Buddy! How's my favorite unique human lima bean?!

147 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:07:08pm

Hamas's singing policemen boost morale in Gaza

GAZA (Reuters) - Wearing blue camouflage fatigues and crooning about Islamic holy war, the five members of Hamas's Protectors of the Homeland police band are trying to boost morale in Gaza with an arsenal of anti-Israel numbers.

Standing bolt upright and staring straight ahead in their Hamas uniforms, the bearded men -- in their 20s and 30s -- are not quite Gaza's answer to international boy bands like Backstreet Boys or 'N Sync.

"Our duties are to boost the spirits with entertainment and encourage the forces," Hussam Abu Abdu told Reuters after a band rehearsal at the Hamas-run Gaza Strip's police headquarters.

Hamas's top police commander, Jamal al-Jarah, who is wanted by Israel, formed the band after the Islamist group seized control of Gaza in June following violent clashes with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's secular Fatah faction.

Anyone have a song list?

148 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:07:12pm

re: #142 jaunte

re: #136 MandyManners


re: #117 jaunte

re: #112 MandyManners

"We're not racist we're organized. Each thing in its place. Each one in his country. Each race in its own continent. And thus we'll live happily."

The TV Dinner Theory of Human Relations.


Bet they never spooned black-eyed peas and the juices onto their cornbread.

A quaint colonial dish, wot?

Of the Southern variety.

149 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:08:18pm

So far, as I'm listening, allahdidn'tmakethemfunnyenough.

150 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:08:43pm
151 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:10:28pm

re: #118 NJDhockeyfan

Every fucking week. Send them back to Somali. What a bunch of ingrates.

152 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:10:29pm

re: #148 MandyManners

re: #142 jaunte

re: #136 MandyManners


A quaint colonial dish, wot?

Of the Southern variety.

There's a Greek cafeteria/diner here in Houston called Harry's that does great balck eyed peas and jalapeño cornbread as a side dish to their moussaka.

153 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:11:10pm

New CAIR Press-Style book released.... (Not really but I bet this is adopted by most major newspapers into their stylebooks across the country)

WASHINGTON, Nov. 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today announced the launch of a major initiative to help enhance understanding of Islam and Muslims in the news media.
At a news conference in the nation's capital, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the centerpiece of its "Beyond Stereotypes" campaign will be distribution of the newly-published "American Muslims: A Journalist's Guide to Understanding Islam and Muslims" to some 40,000 media professionals nationwide. SEE: [Link: www.cair.com...]
CAIR's new guide offers journalists the tools needed to gain a better understanding of Islam and to write accurate and balanced stories about Muslims. The guide also offers background information on issues related to Islam and Muslims, best practices for reporting on the American Muslim community and definitions of terminology often used in news stories or editorials.
In challenging common misconceptions about Islam and Muslims, the guide provides an Islamic perspective on hot-button issues such as Islam and democracy, freedom of religion, women's rights, and interfaith relations.

154 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:11:46pm

re: #152 jaunte

re: #148 MandyManners


re: #142 jaunte

re: #136 MandyManners

A quaint colonial dish, wot?

Of the Southern variety.

There's a Greek cafeteria/diner here in Houston called Harry's that does great balck eyed peas and jalapeño cornbread as a side dish to their moussaka.

Where is it?

155 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:11:54pm

re: #152 jaunte

The restaurants in Houston are highly underrated.

156 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:12:20pm

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Yeah?

157 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:14:19pm

re: #152 jaunte

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Lizards like the Houston area.

Warm and lots of cheap food.

158 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:15:15pm

re: #119 dentate

But my peas always overflowed into the apple cobbler...

Always, always remove everything but the salisbury steak and mashed potatoes from tv dinners.

159 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:15:48pm

I love black eyed peas, rice, collard greens and pork (cooked mushy). Add rice

160 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:16:21pm

I appreciate the new 180 day range search functions Charles. This makes mining the archives for a particular post a lot easier.

161 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:17:10pm

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Had to look on a map; I get there by driving east on Fairview, which turns into Tuam near downtown. It's on the corner of Tuam and Bagby.

162 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:17:29pm

re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?

163 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:17:30pm

re: #146 christheprofessor

Working my ass off. Finally surfaced today.

164 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:18:18pm

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

Hamas's singing policemen boost morale in Gaza



Anyone have a song list?

Boom Boom Boom
Tick Tick Boom
Boom! I Got Your Boyfriend
Boom, Like That
Welcome to the Boomtown
My Heart Goes Boom
B.O.O.M.
Big Boom Bang
Hic-Boom-Ohhh
Chick a Boom Boom Boom
Boom Di Boom Di
Boomerang
Theme from "Brian's Song"

165 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:18:28pm

re: #161 jaunte

Got to try that next time I'm downtown.

166 christheprofessor  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:18:39pm

re: #163 unclassifiable

Glad you were able to come up for air.... Been pretty busy myself...

167 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:18:52pm

OT

Somali (RoP) Pirates


Ransom talks on for Japan ship
Web posted at: 11/13/2007 8:15:42
Source ::: Agencies

Nairobi %u2022 Somali pirates who hijacked a Japanese-owned chemical tanker last month are negotiating a ransom for its release, a maritime official said yesterday.

Discussions about the demand and how it might be paid were being held through go-betweens in Singapore and Malaysia, said Andrew Mwangura, head of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Programme.

Ransoms are usually determined by the value of the ship, the nationalities of the crew and what cargo it was transporting.

The Panama-registered Golden Nori was carrying benzene from Singapore to Israel when it was seized on October 28 some eight nautical miles off Somalia in one of the world's most dangerous shipping lanes.

Meanwhile, a crew member of the ship has escaped and was rescued after spending two days at sea, a maritime official said yesterday.
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp? section=World_News&subsection=Rest+of+the+Worl d&month=November2007&file=World_News200711 1381542.xml

168 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:18:54pm

re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?

Just enough in this recipe (Harry's) to balance the sweet with some heat.

169 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:19:24pm

re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?

Sounds like it might not taste good, but yum...

And I'm a yankee.

170 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:19:50pm

re: #165 unclassifiable

It's good, usually about 8 selections, main dish and sides, for $10.

171 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:20:09pm

I have been doing drive by's but tonight I finally got some time.

Hope you are doing well.

172 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:20:39pm

re: #161 jaunte

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Had to look on a map; I get there by driving east on Fairview, which turns into Tuam near downtown. It's on the corner of Tuam and Bagby.

Too bad, that's a bit far for lunch. Next jury duty, maybe. Usually I treat myself to Treebeard's.

173 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:21:49pm

re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?

Good, if done well. I like the recipes with the whole corn kernels scattered amongst the pepper slices and chunks.

174 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:21:59pm

I'm gettin' hungry over here! Jalapeno cornbread sounds wonderful. Gotta put that on the to do list for office Christmas holiday patries.

175 christheprofessor  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:22:06pm

re: #171 unclassifiable

I'm okay, hope all is well with you and yours...

On that, I'm out for the evening myself. You all have a wonderful evening!

176 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:22:45pm

re: #173 OldLineTexan

That recipe is better than Harry's, unfortunately...

177 Thanos  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:24:30pm

Time for me to check out, network cut tonight.

178 yochanan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:25:46pm

Jewish IQ is a small % higher then the ave in the general population and the reason has nothing to do with race or ethnicity but a lot to do with self selection the jewish religion values being literate and being able to read the bible and other jewish works such as the talmud and being able to do this in the traditional jewish comm one would be more likely to get married and have more children than say some one who was just a labor. Do this for a couple of thousand years and the self selection process will increase the IQ level in the general jewish population.

179 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:26:02pm

re: #167 Syrah

Everyone seems to have the same story on this, but here's another link...
[Link: www.pr-inside.com...]

180 LEGION  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:29:00pm

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

This is really funny-

"24", the never before seen 1994 pilot episode, sponsored by Microsoft Windows 3.1...[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]


I just watched about 2 dozen collegehumor videos- thanks for the intell on this funny site. Respite over- back to serious mulling of world problems on LGF.

181 stevieray  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:30:18pm

re: #153 Thanos

Sigh. Another propaganda offensive. More of the same old same old.

In challenging common misconceptions about Islam and Muslims, the guide provides an Islamic perspective on hot-button issues such as Islam and democracy, freedom of religion, women's rights, and interfaith relations.

Unfortunately, they will find many enthusiastic allies in academe and the media. They're always willing to use their powers in the cause of any anti-American, anti-freedom movement that comes down the pike... after all, evil is not bad, its just misunderstood!

/moral inversion, thy name is CAIR

182 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:30:51pm
183 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:31:31pm

re: #178 yochanan

but a lot to do with self selection

Agreed but it doesn't take a couple thousand years to show a trend, heck the results of smart parents-smart kids phenomena only takes one generation to demonstrate. Same for the opposite.

184 Born Again Republican  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:31:35pm

re: #177 Thanos

Wonderful! Thank you.

185 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:32:24pm

re: #178 yochanan

The end result of it being necessary to read .. sing and study ... as part of a steady jewish education means that over and above most of the population .. the skills to survive .. by being literate and educated .. means that jews have the habit of being able to survive in a lot of situations where being a dumb zealot .. fails.

Its those damn Nobel prizes .. i tells ya ... !

186 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:34:02pm

re: #179 jaunte

re: #167 Syrah

Everyone seems to have the same story on this, but here's another link...
[Link: www.pr-inside.com...]

That is very good news indeed.

Glad to see that some effort is being made to make piracy unprofitable.

We need to return to the old ways of dealing with pirates. Hanging, drawing and quartering, setting fire to the cut up bits, jumping up and down on the ashes and then disposing of them in a latrine, etc. . .

187 ratherdashing  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:34:32pm

Citizenship Ceremony in Iraq

178 foreign born military members received their US citizenship in Iraq during a ceremony at LSA Anaconda. See the video at the link. Too Cool.

188 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:36:38pm

By the way .. just because a group has a genetic fallibility in an often quoted area ... (such as a Euro-centric IQ test) just means that the skilled areas and talents that they naturally posess .. may not be the ones being tested. I'm always surprised when I find that someone has an ability that I cant quite fathom ... and .. it remains a beautiful capability.

I'm not going to be race-specific .. but .. its always good to realise that our diversity makes us beyond intelligent, it makes us constructive.

189 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:37:16pm

re: #186 Syrah

We need to return to the old ways of dealing with pirates. Hanging, drawing and quartering, setting fire to the cut up bits, jumping up and down on the ashes and then disposing of them in a latrine, etc. . .

That always seemed to me. seriously, to be the legal answer to terrorism.
It's covered by the existing laws governing piracy.

190 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:37:32pm

re: #168 jaunte

re: #162 MandyManners


re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?


Just enough in this recipe (Harry's) to balance the sweet with some heat.

Sweet cornbread?

191 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:38:23pm

re: #169 Noam Sayin'

re: #162 MandyManners


re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?


Sounds like it might not taste good, but yum...

And I'm a yankee.

I just don't like my food to assault my tongue.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:38:55pm

US has no option in a Pakistan nuclear “nightmare”

WASHINGTON - The US armed forces are virtually powerless to prevent Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal from falling into Islamist hands if the political crisis in Islamabad spins out of control, analysts warned.

Instead, they said, Washington can do little but help to resolve the crisis and preserve its strong ties with Pakistan’s pro-Western military elite, whether or not General Pervez Musharraf stays in power.

“There’s no good military option at all,” Daniel Markey, a former US government policy planner for South Asia, told AFP on Tuesday in Washington.

It would be an “incredibly ugly scenario,” he said, for US forces to try to find and secure the nuclear sites in the event of an Islamist takeover because they lack the intelligence needed to do so in such a large country.

“Having some certainty of finding them is just, I think, out of the realm of reality,” said Markey, a former State Department official who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank.

193 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:39:04pm

re: #190 MandyManners

re: #168 jaunte

re: #162 MandyManners


re: #152 jaunteJalapeno cornbread?


Just enough in this recipe (Harry's) to balance the sweet with some heat.

Sweet cornbread?

Even in the south, we have our regional variations!

194 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:39:38pm

re: #173 OldLineTexan

re: #162 MandyManners


re: #152 jaunte

Jalapeno cornbread?


Good, if done well. I like the recipes with the whole corn kernels scattered amongst the pepper slices and chunks.

I don't know if I can wrap my head around anything in cornbread but corn meal, egg and milk.

195 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:41:03pm
196 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:41:19pm

re: #194 MandyManners

re: #173 OldLineTexan

re: #162 MandyManners


re: #152 jaunteJalapeno cornbread?


Good, if done well. I like the recipes with the whole corn kernels scattered amongst the pepper slices and chunks.

I don't know if I can wrap my head around anything in cornbread but corn meal, egg and milk.

In North Texas, they got up this crazy idea to put a hot dog in corn bread...

197 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:41:28pm

re: #189 jaunte

re: #186 Syrah

We need to return to the old ways of dealing with pirates. Hanging, drawing and quartering, setting fire to the cut up bits, jumping up and down on the ashes and then disposing of them in a latrine, etc. . .

That always seemed to me. seriously, to be the legal answer to terrorism.
It's covered by the existing laws governing piracy.

I would go for that.

198 mikeysdca  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:41:42pm

Something new.

[Link: news.aaj.tv...]

199 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:42:03pm
200 mattm  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:42:13pm

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

That was freaking hilarious. And yes, AOHell still sucks.

201 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:42:15pm

re: #190 MandyManners

re: #168 jaunte


re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunte
Jalapeno cornbread?

Just enough in this recipe (Harry's) to balance the sweet with some heat.

Sweet cornbread?

Some cornbread is lightly sweet, yes. Depends on the cook and the rest of the meal.

202 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:42:26pm

re: #193 jaunte

I'll say!

203 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:43:07pm

re: #191 MandyManners

re: #169 Noam Sayin'


re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunte
Jalapeno cornbread?

Sounds like it might not taste good, but yum...
And I'm a yankee.

I just don't like my food to assault my tongue.

My chili does not assault the tongue, but it will sneak up on some other parts...

204 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:43:22pm

re: #196 jaunte

The Kid looooooooooooves corn dogs.

205 tblot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:43:34pm

OT just seen John Wooden being interview today and at 97 he sure is a lot smarter and aware than anyone in congress This guy sure is amazing

206 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:43:41pm

My gut feeling is the US has a strict .. zero tolerance policy for jihadis with nukes .. and would act appropriately ...

Of course .. if i'm proven wrong .. there are backup plans .. in place too.

207 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:44:22pm

re: #199 savage_nation

What will they think of next--jalapeno ice cream?

208 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:02pm

re: #196 jaunte

re: #194 MandyManners


re: #173 OldLineTexan

re: #162 MandyManners

re: #152 jaunteJalapeno cornbread?

Good, if done well. I like the recipes with the whole corn kernels scattered amongst the pepper slices and chunks.

I don't know if I can wrap my head around anything in cornbread but corn meal, egg and milk.

In North Texas, they got up this crazy idea to put a hot dog in corn bread...

Deep fried and on a stick, what can go wrong?
/btw, the batter's usually a bit sweet

209 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:03pm

As strange as various genetic engineering exploration may be, it would probably be a while before somebody demanded the traits, "anal-retentive and forgetful".

"Greg, why is there a burrito in the baby's crib?"

hint: don't ask what's in the microwave!

210 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:04pm

re: #204 MandyManners

re: #196 jaunte

The Kid looooooooooooves corn dogs.

Hot dog, corn, on a stick. It may be the perfect kidfood.

211 tblot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:04pm

re: #206 Buster Bunny

huh you hope

212 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:06pm

re: #203 OldLineTexan

I don't like food to be mean to any part of me.

213 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:45:34pm

re: #178 yochanan Um, y'all got any links for that?

214 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:46:13pm

Dang. I'm hungry. BBL. I got a date with a big bowl of ice cream and a bottle of chocolate syrup.

215 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:46:44pm
216 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:47:31pm

re: #214 MandyManners Hmmmm- a threesome huh?!

217 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:48:05pm

re: #212 MandyManners

One of the benefits of repeated burning with hot food (AirForce daughter in New Mexico tells me) is an increase in endorphin production by the brain. she claims that some people in NM are (emotionallly) addicted to the chile experience.
There's just that learning curve to get up.

218 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:48:13pm

re: #212 MandyManners

re: #203 OldLineTexan

I don't like food to be mean to any part of me.

It's more of a warm ... afterglow ...

219 Orde  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:48:37pm

re: #78 gop_patriot

re: #77 Syrah

On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot,

I have a feeling that no matter what the people of Venezuela actually vote, these amendments will "pass" anyway.

/Chavez, why don't you shut up?

Because of the Venezuelan voting machines?

220 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:50:49pm

re: #207 MandyManners

What will they think of next--jalapeno ice cream?

/Turkey & Gravy soda

221 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:50:53pm

re: #215 savage_nation Hey savage! How are you and where are you? How's you dad doing?

222 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:52:33pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy Ah geez Killian - and right before bed time?!

;>'

223 Syrah  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:52:37pm

re: #219 Orde

re: #78 gop_patriot

re: #77 Syrah

On that day, if Venezuelan citizens pass the dozens of constitutional amendments on the ballot,

I have a feeling that no matter what the people of Venezuela actually vote, these amendments will "pass" anyway.

/Chavez, why don't you shut up?

Because of the Venezuelan voting machines?

Sounds like a Paulian plot to me.

224 Buster Bunny  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:53:12pm

re: #211 tblot

Not hope.

Lets just say ... that nukes are old tech.
These days .. we got things that would blow your mind ... literally.

/nuff said.

225 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:53:37pm

re: #218 OldLineTexan

The afterburner.

226 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:54:04pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

re: #207 MandyManners


What will they think of next--jalapeno ice cream?

/Turkey & Gravy soda

This year it's Christmas Ham...and, it's kosher.

227 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:56:16pm

re: #226 OldLineTexan

re: #220 Killian Bundy


re: #207 MandyManners

What will they think of next--jalapeno ice cream?

/Turkey & Gravy soda

This year it's Christmas Ham...and, it's kosher.

Perspiration Soda

228 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:56:45pm

re: #178 yochanan

Jewish IQ is a small % higher then the ave in the general population and the reason has nothing to do with race or ethnicity but a lot to do with self selection the jewish religion values being literate and being able to read the bible and other jewish works such as the talmud and being able to do this in the traditional jewish comm one would be more likely to get married and have more children than say some one who was just a labor. Do this for a couple of thousand years and the self selection process will increase the IQ level in the general jewish population.

It's not a "small %" higher, it's 15 points higher, at least for Ashkenazi jews. Bit the correct response to this tidbit is: who the hell cares? IQ tests are a meaningless abstraction that test one extremely isolated set of coginitive functions. It tells us next to nothing about the abilities, moral integrity, etc. of any individual. There are many hundreds of thousands of 140 IQ couch potatoes clogging up Manhattan and making it less fun for everyone else. Meanwhile not one of them -- NOT ONE -- could even approach one iota of the deeply human intellection happening in the mind of the man who produced Giant Steps.

IQ is a silly abstraction, and those who obsess over it reveal far more about their own shortcomings as human beings than any alleged flaws (or benefits) attached to a particular score on some stupid "test".

229 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 8:56:48pm

re: #226 OldLineTexan

re: #220 Killian Bundy

re: #207 MandyManners


What will they think of next--jalapeno ice cream?


/Turkey & Gravy soda

This year it's Christmas Ham...and, it's kosher.

Have to admit, I'm curious about the chemistry that will deliver a (kosher?) ham taste without the involvement of the ham .

230 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:00:16pm

Food killed the technical update thread.

231 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:01:49pm

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan In a link from your link, concerning Washington's pushing Mushareef to hold free and open elections:

"The US government argues that the push for democracy is the best way to ensure stability in Pakistan, a nuclear-armed Muslim country that is a frontline US ally in the war against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda."

Uh, think anyone has the balls to remind President Bush of the outcome of the free and open elections amongst the Palestinians:
Hamas.
So we could be pushing Pakistan into being governed by the Taliban/Al-Q form of Hamas.
Oh. Joy.

232 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:01:51pm
233 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:04:37pm

re: #230 jaunte Actually, those of us who use IE or Mathon helped kill it, too, since we are no longer able to use the LGF Daily Archives section - indeed it doesn't even appear on our screens.

234 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:05:05pm

Charles the search for "user:Ayatollah Ghilmeini" yields nothing in the 2002 date range. sniff

235 jaunte  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:08:39pm

re: #233 realwest

I think the 'cat-herding' Charles does may be less about commenters here and more about software.
Meanwhile, here's a classical guitar quartet playing the Simpson's theme:

236 FamHistoryGuy  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:09:38pm

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Cambodia 1970's. Same thing happened to a Cambodian grunt. Medical team sandbaged him and removed the rpg/munition. I think I still have the clipping from the Bangkok Post.

237 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:10:31pm

re: #8 experiencedtraveller

Like Diogenes I search for an honest man.

So do the shareholders of Citigroup, and Wamu, and ETrade...

Their previous honest men had some honest money issues.

238 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:10:59pm

Charles, when I do the search is changes the date range to 06

:-(

239 tblot  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:12:34pm

re: #224 Buster Bunny

my mine already blown so nuthing new

240 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:15:30pm

re: #7 Buster Bunny

I remember the good ol' days at LGF .....

A steam powered telegraphy component with realtime punch card access and the ability to reply in calligraphy markup language ....

It was just the transmission by smoke signals that was difficult.

With OldLineTexan's chili, you might be able to drive TCP/Smoke-signal, just watch out for the segment retransmission, and disable packet sniffing.

241 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:18:29pm
242 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:19:47pm

Why we at LGF bind together.

Great read.

Tribes

[Link: www.ejectejecteject.com...]

243 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:24:59pm

Don't chain me, bro!

LONDON (Reuters) - Police charged pop singer Boy George with false imprisonment on Tuesday after he allegedly chained a man to a wall at his London home.

Boy George, whose real name is George O'Dowd, was released on police bail and is scheduled to appear in court on November 22.

"George O'Dowd ... is charged with false imprisonment of a 28-year-old male ... on April 28, 2007," a police spokeswoman said.

The 47-year-old former Culture Club frontman was arrested in May after a man accused him of "false imprisonment and common assault" at the singer's London home.

SNIP

244 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:26:11pm

"I mean that I could ... shake a generation of the poorest Voodoo-worshippers in Haiti into a cadre of top-flight nuclear physicists, chemical engineers and computer scientists" (from Tribes).

Houston, we need a witch doctor.

245 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:26:13pm

re: #243 MandyManners

He'll probably say it was some type of performance art.

246 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:28:04pm

re: #240 blackpajamas

re: #7 Buster Bunny

I remember the good ol' days at LGF .....

A steam powered telegraphy component with realtime punch card access and the ability to reply in calligraphy markup language ....

It was just the transmission by smoke signals that was difficult.

With OldLineTexan's chili, you might be able to drive TCP/Smoke-signal, just watch out for the segment retransmission, and disable packet sniffing.

You all are funny - I only go back to EBCIDIC, ASCII, Hex and Assembler.

We just didn't have to deal with that stuff then ... all we wanted to do was make the connection and get in sync!

Which was a bitch with the quality of phone lines back then - 60's.

247 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:33:05pm

re: #243 MandyManners

Mandy - Mandy -Mandy -

How's the shoe salvation coming?

Mouse poop?

Gotta get you hooked up with the Marine of your dreams for the next Marine Ball. We have a year - so let's get started!

248 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:34:10pm
249 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:36:37pm

I like that Eject! Eject! Eject! article on Tribes. It seems somewhat disjoint however, like the beginning of Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury; Is it written by multiple people?

250 NY Nana  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:38:47pm

re: #219 Orde

Is it anything like the Florida Voting Machine?

251 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:39:06pm

re: #249 blackpajamas

I like that Eject! Eject! Eject! article on Tribes. It seems somewhat disjoint however, like the beginning of Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury; Is it written by multiple people?

No - one guy - profoundly intelligent.

See his other stuff.

[Link: www.ejectejecteject.com...]

252 NY Nana  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:41:21pm

re: #243 MandyManners

Mandy,

I couldn't post the video I sent you, but here is the other one.

253 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:42:43pm

Thanks for extending the date range, Charles. Should make researching trolls a little faster.

254 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:44:32pm
255 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:48:53pm

re: #242 Bobibutu What an excellent piece by Bill Whittle. I've reported this to Charles in the perhaps vain hope that he might make a thread out of it, even if it was written in 2005.
Thank you very much for giving that link to us.

256 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:52:51pm

re: #254 song_and_dance_man

Dreaming of a theater near you.

Nice medly at the Budokan, I've never heard Erotomania modulate into saloon music before.

257 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:58:01pm

re: #255 realwest

re: #242 Bobibutu What an excellent piece by Bill Whittle. I've reported this to Charles in the perhaps vain hope that he might make a thread out of it, even if it was written in 2005.
Thank you very much for giving that link to us.

Hey RW!
That essay was written right after Katrina, we had several threads on it.
Thousands of comments.

258 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 9:59:45pm

re: #238 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Ah c'mon, stop your complaining - at least you can search back to 06!
Us inferior IE users can't search AT ALL.
Sheesh.

259 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:02:13pm

re: #257 DesertSage Huh, really? I musta been in the hospital then or else am having a major senior moment! LOL!
Can you check briefly to see if I had any posts about it (assuming you don't use Maxthon or IE7 as your preferred browser)?

260 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:04:23pm
261 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:06:20pm

re: #259 realwest

Here you go my friend....[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

262 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:09:42pm

"the Malodorous Michigan Manatee of Mendacity"

aka...Michael Moore.

263 jcm  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:09:58pm

Drive by:

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global warming... It is a SCAM.
Read the rest.

Here's his page of links.

264 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:12:49pm

re: #262 DesertSage

"the Malodorous Michigan Manatee of Mendacity"

aka...Michael Moore.

Or... the Stinky Sea Cow Sicko

265 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:14:17pm

re: #255 realwest

re: #242 Bobibutu What an excellent piece by Bill Whittle. I've reported this to Charles in the perhaps vain hope that he might make a thread out of it, even if it was written in 2005.
Thank you very much for giving that link to us.

You are welcome - It concisely summed up my attitude and focused my awareness as to why I was amiable to some whatever their color, class or breed and not so to another. Damn fine essay. He has others ...

Whittle and the Big Liz would be good to at least know one another.

266 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:16:12pm
267 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:18:01pm

re: #257 DesertSage

re: #255 realwest

re: #242 Bobibutu What an excellent piece by Bill Whittle. I've reported this to Charles in the perhaps vain hope that he might make a thread out of it, even if it was written in 2005.
Thank you very much for giving that link to us.

Hey RW!
That essay was written right after Katrina, we had several threads on it.
Thousands of comments.

In all due respect - it had nothing to do with Katrina - Bill had been working on it for months before.

268 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:19:45pm

Although I'm more than trilled to be quoted I'd prefer that my "There's no tent big enough for Nazis" be quoted with appropriate tone. Nuance.
/G'nite, y'all.

269 Render  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:21:57pm

You guys...

Bill Whittle IS a Lizard.

LONG
TIME,
R

270 gibsonz  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:26:03pm

MARKOS MOULITSAS, FOUNDER AND PUBLISHER OF DAILYKOS.COM,
TO BECOME NEWSWEEK CONTRIBUTOR FOR 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
------
Just saw this, didn`t know if it had been linked.

271 Orbit Rain  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:27:39pm

...oh praise the lord...I've been waiting for this feature.

272 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:28:21pm

re: #269 Render

You guys...

Bill Whittle IS a Lizard.

LONG
TIME,
R

Thank you!

273 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:30:09pm

re: #270 gibsonz

"He will give our readers in print and online a unique perspective."

Unique is certainly cheaper that historically accurate and intelligent perspective.

274 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:32:06pm

re: #267 Bobibutu

Maybe you're not reading the same "Tribes" as I am.
I said it was written right after Katrina. Maybe I should have said that it was published right after Katrina.

The sediment of the essay could apply to just about any disaster. I'm sure those thoughts were in his head for a long time. There has always been grey tribes and pink tribes. There has always been sheep and sheep dogs.

It all came to a head with Katrina, and he wrapped in into one great essay.

275 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:32:56pm
276 gibsonz  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:33:37pm

re: #273 blackpajamas
Unique is certainly cheaper that historically accurate and intelligent perspective.
------
Like Markos needs to add his two cents to anything!

277 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:39:21pm

re: #276 gibsonz

Yep. General Kostard and the 7th Cowardly are planning on running a strong anti-Bush campaign in 2008.

278 Orbit Rain  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:40:23pm

ahh projection and sticks, forgot sticks...I'd add jihad media; solutions problems...still can't remember Bush. & . . . ...

ohh and something is screwy...

Charles, can you give me the syntax for finding one of my comments with a specific word in the post?

8)

279 Bobibutu  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:40:50pm

re: #274 DesertSage

re: #267 Bobibutu

Maybe you're not reading the same "Tribes" as I am.
I said it was written right after Katrina. Maybe I should have said that it was published right after Katrina.

The sediment of the essay could apply to just about any disaster. I'm sure those thoughts were in his head for a long time. There has always been grey tribes and pink tribes. There has always been sheep and sheep dogs.

It all came to a head with Katrina, and he wrapped in into one great essay.

The link:

[Link: www.ejectejecteject.com...]

We have no arguement.

280 Irene NYC  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:45:22pm

Thanks Charles, a lot.

I am bookmarking this page 5 times.
;)

281 Highrise  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:46:27pm

re: #278 Orbit Rain

I just found out how to do that the other day.

Searching the word "lord" like this:

"user:Orbit Rain"lord


brings up your first post on this thread.

282 Highrise  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:46:41pm

re: #280 Irene NYC


haha same :)

283 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:48:03pm

re: #261 DesertSage Great thread even if I wasn't on it, damn it!
Whittle's a frickin genius. Period.

284 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:48:32pm
285 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:49:02pm

re: #243 MandyManners

Ewwwwwww!

286 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:53:50pm

re: #282 Highrise Hi Highrise - went back to "that" thread and read your response to me, which was posted after I'd left.
Also left you an apology for my comment - I didn't "get" the context.
And you're quite correct when you say stvip is a pot stirrer and I should have known better. I also should have known better when I was in such a rush to leave.
Again, my apologies.

287 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:55:13pm

PIMF - I should have known better than to post something when I was in such a rush to leave!
Sigh.

288 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:57:52pm

re: #283 realwest

re: #261 DesertSage Great thread even if I wasn't on it, damn it!
Whittle's a frickin genius. Period.

Yeah, you weren't on that thread, what's up with that?
I posted on that thread...
It was over two years ago...
I need a life...

... :'(

289 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 10:58:14pm

Well y'all I see that it's waaay beyond my bed time and so I must leave.
Hope y'all have a GREAT NIGHT and that I get see you down the road.

290 realwest  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:00:00pm

re: #288 DesertSage Ah Sage, my friend, given the date, I was probably back in the hospital cause they discovered the cancer just about 6 weeks or so before that thread appeared.
NOW good night my friend!

291 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:09:27pm

I'm too tired to read this whole thread, will do in the am.

I love all you Lizards!

In and out, over and out.

292 blackpajamas  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:10:32pm

"A man's moral conscience is the curse he had to accept from the gods
in order to gain from them the right to dream." —Faulkner

* Zzzzzz... Mmm... pizza... zzzZZzz *

293 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:11:02pm
294 Highrise  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:11:33pm

re: #286 realwest

np realwest :) .

295 pat  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:13:07pm

Wonderful. Makasey just got in and now he wants to investigate.... the USA for infringing on the rights of terrorists.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Just great. Bush is batting 0 in AGs and State. Don't get a President like this every day.

296 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:23:06pm

Evening fellow lizards.

Another example of BDS

Even tongue in cheek it's vile.

297 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:24:08pm
298 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:37:46pm

re: #297 song_and_dance_man

nice mix of insturments.

299 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:41:34pm
300 The Other Les  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:48:11pm

Michelle Malkin calls this sedition.

It is in fact sabotage and treason.

Activists protesting military shipments at the Port of Olympia poured cement over railroad tracks to try to block shipments coming out of the Port today, according to Olympia police.

Nobody was arrested after protesters unsuccessfully tried to keep trains from leaving the Port, said Olympia police Lt. Jim Costa. The Port cleaned up the cement, Costa said.

Protesters are a frequent presence at that location, where Iraq-bound Army equipment goes through the Port.


In a Communist state, such as the Soviet Union, which most of these scum idolize and wish to impose on us, the perpetrators of an identical act would be executed for sabotage and treason.

301 The Other Les  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:49:13pm

re: #299 song_and_dance_man

Eric big dog Johnson.

Well heck, if you're going to post Eric Johnson:

302 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:53:27pm
303 Render  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:53:53pm

Whistle Stop eh?

Thin Lizzy, Gary Moore breaks his low E right at the start and carries on as if...

and since I've mentioned one of my bass hero's, he's dead, but Phil still has a message for the nazi's.

ANGEL
OF
DEATH,
R

304 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Nov 13, 2007 11:57:12pm
305 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:15:09am
306 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:24:04am

Good Morning Dead Thread!

Waking America up to reality

307 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:33:35am

re: #306 Carl in Jerusalem

Morning Carl. Good post.

308 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:34:04am
309 Render  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:35:12am

Everybody remember to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIRLY!

WUB
YA,
R

310 storagemanager  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:36:55am
Pakistani opposition politician Imran Khan has appeared in public for the first time since going into hiding when the government declared emergency rule.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

311 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:41:24am

re: #300 The Other Les

Activists protesting military shipments at the Port of Olympia poured cement over railroad tracks to try to block shipments coming out of the Port today, according to Olympia police.

I would call it attempted murder.

312 Ledger1  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:42:47am

re: #62 shanimal1918

OT rotflmao:


"We have always sought to represent a diversity of views in Newsweek, and we think Markos will be a great part of that tradition," said Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham. "He will give our readers in print and online a unique perspective.

Newsweak hired kos! He brings the unique perspective of a moron to the weakest moonbat magazine best used to line the kitty litter box.

Markos:

1. Screw Bush!

2. Screw the neo-cons!

3. Screw Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs!

4. Screw Hillary. She is too moderate!

5. Screw all moderate Dems!

6. Screw all people who don't read Kos!

7. Screw the world!

313 storagemanager  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:45:38am
The Muslim Student Union is the collegiate arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. They are over 150 MSU chapters on college campuses in the U.S. One of the most notorious is the University of California at Irvine. We have blogged about radical Muslim speakers at UCIrvine including showing videos of their hate filled presentations. A brave California Assemblyman recorded some of the more egregious episodes and embarrassed the university’s administration in simply allowing recording of this vitriolic hate.


[Link: blog.americancongressfortruth.com...]

314 storagemanager  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 12:47:42am

Ron Paul would ignore him...Obama would have a chat with him..........

TEHRAN (AFP)---Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday launched a new verbal attack on Israel, saying a "countdown" has begun that will end with Lebanese and Palestinian militants destroying the Jewish state.

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

315 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 1:05:49am

re: #314 storagemanager

Ron Paul would ignore him...Obama would have a chat with him..........

And Rudy would bitch-slap him into next week.

316 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 1:12:23am

re: #315 myself

Rudy would bitch-slap him into next week.

And it would be worth the price of admission.

Rudy '08! ;-)

317 Mr. Beamish  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 1:17:03am

So how do we search for comments from someone besides Zombie?

/ducking, running, etc.

319 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 1:28:41am
320 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 1:35:20am

re: #317 Mr. Beamish

So how do we search for comments from someone besides Zombie?

Why would you want to?

321 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:00:11am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!

322 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:00:53am

re: #318 Carl in Jerusalem

The more educated the Muslim, the more in favor of terror

Very interesting Carl.
I've always rejected the notion that crime in general is related to poverty. In the case of terrorists, figures seem to be quite slanted towards a middle or upper-middle class percentage of the thugs.

Who is Gush Emunim? The "settlers"?

323 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:02:10am

re: #321 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet %u2192 %u2192 %u2192 %u2192 %u2192
Help yourselves!

Thanks, littleoldlady! :)

324 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:02:30am

Miguelito! :-)

325 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:04:09am

What do we have for fruitcup today, littleoldlady?

326 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:05:37am

Well...we have fruit.

;-)

327 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:06:00am

...in a cup, of course.

328 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:10:16am

ROFL!

And here I was hoping for a glass of pineapple and watermelon...

330 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:11:55am

re: #322 MigueldowninMexico

re: #318 Carl in Jerusalem

The more educated the Muslim, the more in favor of terror

Very interesting Carl.
I've always rejected the notion that crime in general is related to poverty. In the case of terrorists, figures seem to be quite slanted towards a middle or upper-middle class percentage of the thugs.

Who is Gush Emunim? The "settlers"?

It's a settler revenant organization that was very active in the 70's and 80's.

331 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:12:18am

Hillary is getting a lot of flack over planted questions.

332 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:13:34am

re: #328 MigueldowninMexico

ROFL!

And here I was hoping for a glass of pineapple and watermelon...

Okay, your wish is my command!

/mixing is optional

333 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:19:18am

re: #332 littleoldlady

littleoldlady
U R D Queen of Hostesses ™ ;)

334 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:21:37am

re: #330 Carl in Jerusalem

Ok Carl, a revenant organizacion lol
I do believe in the power of words, and in the importance of using the correct words. Besides, I was not completely comfy with the word settlers, that's why I wrote it in quotes.
Thanks ;)

335 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:25:29am

I see that Jonathon Pollard has a shot at freedom and probation if he just reverts to is'lame. Hmm, Maybe not, we wasn't spying for the Hezzies.

336 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:27:20am

BenZ
Is it true that Pollard is the victim of a big injustice?

This is the guy in jail in the USA, right?

337 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:32:33am

re: #336 MigueldowninMexico

He's guilty, but was made an example of. US wanted to send a message, "Israel ya gots tooo many spies working in the US."

338 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:34:55am

Mahdi lose way, ends up at Parma (Cleveland) gas station.

"I actually watched it for 30 minutes, and then actually I watched it move and that is when I got freaked out," said station owner Amed Abudaaria.

339 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:35:15am

re: #337 BenZacharia

re: #336 MigueldowninMexico

He's guilty, but was made an example of. US wanted to send a message, "Israel ya gots tooo many spies working in the US."

Ok BenZ I get it. Thanks ;)

340 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:39:41am

An oracle concerning Annapolis.

Read the Book, 'W'
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

I have to wonder if our president has ever actually read his Bible. In Zechariah 12:3, God promises – he does not suggest – he promises that "in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it SHALL be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."

That "day" is here, yet our president thumbs his nose at God and, in his typical, arrogant tone proclaims "I am Jerusalem's 'decider.'" I not only fear for what meaning "Annapolis" will have in the future, but for our nation being "cut in pieces" as God promised.

Van Sullivan

341 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:41:34am

MdiM,

Pray your gummint doesn't decide to fiddle with Israel, and you'll survive. They will of course.

342 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:44:48am

re: #341 BenZacharia

MdiM,

Pray your gummint doesn't decide to fiddle with Israel, and you'll survive. They will of course.

I assume gummit means "government"
If that's the case, no problem, as the government here is no friend of picking up fights with other governments.

It's always Chavez the one who begins trouble. ;)

343 hazzyday  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:49:48am

re: #270 gibsonz

MARKOS MOULITSAS, FOUNDER AND PUBLISHER OF DAILYKOS.COM,
TO BECOME NEWSWEEK CONTRIBUTOR FOR 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
------
Just saw this, didn`t know if it had been linked.

Fake but accurate

344 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:54:23am

re: #343 hazzyday

Newsweek has always been a commie rag in disguise.
But this is a step into the fringe unhinged left for them.

As a sage, I see my cristal ball and say: I can see, Newsweek's circulation plunging even lower, and lower...and lower...

It was already mentioned somewhere around ;)

345 hazzyday  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:55:30am

re: #300 The Other Les

I hope that they are prosecuted fully. Their stated aim is to make the port waste money. Not to mention the stretched thin police. All it will do is make my property taxes go up a $100 or so. There is a local city councilmen that is in cahoots with the demonstrators and they waste no time trying to take advantage of other people.

I am afraid I found it entertaining to watch them snivel about how they were abused by the police during the demonstration. I think marshmallows were handed out and they cried that there were no napkins.

346 hazzyday  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:56:40am

re: #344 MigueldowninMexico
maybe a few LGF threads will throw them into a tizzy.

347 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 2:58:57am

re: #346 hazzyday

re: #344 MigueldowninMexico
maybe a few LGF threads will throw them into a tizzy.

I hope so! LOL

348 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:03:42am

re: #345 hazzyday

I hope that they are prosecuted fully...

"Paging Charles Whitman"

349 Carridine  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:04:29am

re: #343 hazzyday

re: #270 gibsonz
MARKOS MOULITSAS, FOUNDER AND PUBLISHER OF DAILYKOS.COM,
TO BECOME NEWSWEEK CONTRIBUTOR FOR 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
------
Just saw this, didn`t know if it had been linked.

Fake but accurate

Wonderful news, Hazzy! Markos has a BLACK THUMB, and his endorsement of anything outside "DailyKos" has proven to be the kiss of death, the touch of death, the thumb of Thanatos...

350 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:04:33am

Congress in Mexico just passed a law that political parties are forbiden to buy time in the MSM for political campaigns!
I think it is for radio and TV, but it might encompass the printed press too.
The savings are going to be big, as parties recieve very hefty summes from the government, but in the future, they won't get a cent more for media!
It's going to be tough for the parties I guess.
OTOH this will put pressure on them to deliver more and trust less in just image.
I'm flabbergasted anyway, it's a huge change. And all parties in congress voted in agreement about this.
Perhaps it's the typical "idea which time has come".

351 Mr. Beamish  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:12:58am

re: #350 MigueldowninMexico

Congress in Mexico just passed a law that political parties are forbiden to buy time in the MSM for political campaigns!
I think it is for radio and TV, but it might encompass the printed press too.
The savings are going to be big, as parties recieve very hefty summes from the government, but in the future, they won't get a cent more for media!
It's going to be tough for the parties I guess.

Does this mean the candidates for President of Mexico won't be making campaign stops in central California (anymore)?

352 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:13:45am

One in four Republicans (at least in New Hampshire) wouldn't vote for Romney because he's a member of the CJCLDS, a Mormon.
That's unfair and stupid -if it's true.
That assertion is on the last words of this article...

353 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:14:07am

re: #350 MigueldowninMexico

Congress in Mexico just passed a law that political parties are forbiden to buy time in the MSM for political campaigns!

Is that like allowing "Vote Giuliani" but prohibiting "Vote Republican"?

354 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:16:20am

Greek Orthodox and Catholic Church get into bed with Fatah and Ham'asse, start having regrets. Shoulda thought about that in the first place.

355 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:17:56am

re: #351 Mr. Beamish

re: #350 MigueldowninMexico

Congress in Mexico just passed a law that political parties are forbiden to buy time in the MSM for political campaigns!
I think it is for radio and TV, but it might encompass the printed press too.
The savings are going to be big, as parties recieve very hefty summes from the government, but in the future, they won't get a cent more for media!
It's going to be tough for the parties I guess.

Does this mean the candidates for President of Mexico won't be making campaign stops in central California (anymore)?

No idea.
This ruling of Congress was about spots and commercials on either the electronic media or all of the MSM, not sure here.
Anyway, the next candidates for President will be campaigning in 2012, still a ways to go.

356 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:19:45am

Good morning, Lizards.

357 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:19:56am

re: #352 MigueldowninMexico

One in four Republicans (at least in New Hampshire) wouldn't vote for Romney because he's a member of the CJCLDS, a Mormon.
That's unfair and stupid -if it's true.
That assertion is on the last words of this article...

Would you vote for a fundamentalist Muslim?

358 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:20:50am

re: #353 victor_yugo

re: #350 MigueldowninMexico

Congress in Mexico just passed a law that political parties are forbiden to buy time in the MSM for political campaigns!

Is that like allowing "Vote Giuliani" but prohibiting "Vote Republican"?

All propaganda is banished, candidates and parties.
It's hard to believe. Let's see how it pans out next year when there will be six State races, for governor, state congress and city halls.
The savings is considerable, about 500 million dollars.
The media are suffering...

359 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:22:09am

re: #357 BenZacharia

re: #352 MigueldowninMexico

One in four Republicans (at least in New Hampshire) wouldn't vote for Romney because he's a member of the CJCLDS, a Mormon.
That's unfair and stupid -if it's true.
That assertion is on the last words of this article...

Would you vote for a fundamentalist Muslim?

Non sequitur BenZ.
A Mormon is not a Muslim.

360 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:24:36am

re: #354 BenZacharia

Greek Orthodox and Catholic Church get into bed with Fatah and Ham'asse, start having regrets. Shoulda thought about that in the first place.

You comment is unfair. According to the article you linked, they were forced, they never "got into bed". And if they were forced, they are completely innocent.
:p

361 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:24:43am

re: #359 MigueldowninMexico


Non sequitur BenZ.
A Mormon is not a Muslim.

Do you know what a Mormon is?

362 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:25:56am

Good morning, goddess :)

363 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:26:14am

re: #360 MigueldowninMexico

Read it again, it says they took part in the Ham'asse shindig VOLUNTARILY, then were forced into the arafish thang.

364 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:26:28am

re: #361 BenZacharia

re: #359 MigueldowninMexico


Non sequitur BenZ.
A Mormon is not a Muslim.

Do you know what a Mormon is?

I do.

365 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:27:39am

re: #363 BenZacharia

re: #360 MigueldowninMexico

Read it again, it says they took part in the Ham'asse shindig VOLUNTARILY, then were forced into the arafish thang.

Ok BenZ. Still they are under constant threat. They either play alone, or have a very harsh time.

Do you think Mormons are like Muslims?

366 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:29:14am

re: #307 BlueCanuck

BC, please see my very late response to your posts on Monday's Saudi thread.

367 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:30:51am

re: #365 MigueldowninMexico

Addendum.
Anyway my post was not to defend mormons. It was just to express that to decide not to vote for someone just because her/his religion is unfair.
Of course, except when a "religion" is a cult. As in the case of Islam.

368 formercorpsman  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:32:24am

re: #365 MigueldowninMexico

Good morning guys.

Miguel, for some reason, that part of the world is rife with anti-Semitic catholics.

Munchhausen's if you ask me.

369 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:34:39am

re: #365 MigueldowninMexico

Ok BenZ. Still they are under constant threat. They either play alone, or have a very harsh time.

They stood up to the nazis and the commies. Is is'lame different?

Do you think Mormons are like Muslims?

Both Enemies of The Most High.

370 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:35:31am

re: #368 formercorpsman

I didn't know that.

371 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:35:42am

Morning all.
Yesterday oil was down $3.45, gold down $8.60, the Dow way up.
Can you say see-saw?

372 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:36:50am

re: #367 MigueldowninMexico

...except when a "religion" is a cult. As in the case of Islam.

And Mormons, Jws, 7th days....

373 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:38:35am

re: #372 BenZacharia

re: #367 MigueldowninMexico

...except when a "religion" is a cult. As in the case of Islam.

And Mormons, Jws, 7th days....

I don't visualize those you mention as dangerous.
Still waiting for a Mormon to blow up in a bus or a restaurant...

374 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:40:00am

Ben Zach, what's your perception of Mormons versus, say, Methodists?
(Presbyterian here; I don't see Mormons as Christians any more than Jehovahs Witnesses or Unitarians.)

375 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:40:07am

re: #371 Jim in Virginia

Morning all.
Yesterday oil was down $3.45, gold down $8.60, the Dow way up.
Can you say see-saw?

Oil and gold will not settle back to the pre-high levels. If it were so we would have $24/barrel oil like on January 21, 2001. Settles back a little and then begin climping again after a rest period.

376 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:40:48am

Wow Ben. You're Karnak.

377 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:42:20am

re: #369 BenZacharia

re: #365 MigueldowninMexico

Ok BenZ. Still they are under constant threat. They either play alone, or have a very harsh time.

They stood up to the nazis and the commies. Is is'lame different?

Do you think Mormons are like Muslims?

Both Enemies of The Most High.

Who stood up to nazis and commies? ME Catholics?
Catholics in the Third Reich could not stand up to nazis, and Catholics in the USSR and red china could not stand up to communists.
OTOH hand Catholics in Europe have standed up to muslims many times.
It's a matter of where you live. ;)

Do you consider Mormons as enemies of the Most High?
Wow.

378 formercorpsman  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:43:22am

re: #370 MigueldowninMexico

It is something that I have been trying to gain more knowledge on, myself being catholic.

I think this why history is of the utmost importance.

For some reason, too many Catholics are willing to get into bed with islamists in Lebanon, etc.

Israel is not responsible for the exodus of chrisitans from the holy land.

Recall the reserve of Israel during the church seize, terrorists desecrated a place held in very dear regard to many people throughout the world.

Hopefully, Benedict will stand tall against the threat.

379 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:46:48am

re: #374 Jim in Virginia

Ben Zach, what's your perception of Mormons versus, say, Methodists?
(Presbyterian here; I don't see Mormons as Christians any more than Jehovahs Witnesses or Unitarians.)

The christian (small 'c') cults don't get there main doctrines from extra biblical source's.

As far as Methodists and Presbyterians I hold this against them, they both subscribe to the doctrine of supersessionism/replacement theology. In which they have taken the place of Israel and all the promises have been transferred to them. The nation of Israel and the Jewish people are of no more importance than any other people and are irrelevant in Ha'Shems economy.

380 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:48:50am

re: #378 formercorpsman

You mean the church of the Nativity?
I sort of remember that incident.

It's true what you say about Lebanon. There are many Lebanese in Mexico, mostly Maronites (Catholic) and they don't like Jews at all.
Still Mexican Jews and Mexican Arabs are constantly making business together lol.
I have the impression that being anti-Jew is a feature of Arabs in general.
The old, Ishmail-Isaac rift.

381 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:50:16am

BenZ

The christian (small 'c') cults don't get there main doctrines from extra biblical source's.


I think you meant the contrary.

382 formercorpsman  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:51:40am

re: #380 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, have a good day buddy.

Shower and shave time here.

Catch you guys later.

383 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:52:07am

re: #377 MigueldowninMexico

Who stood up to nazis and commies? ME Catholics?
Catholics in the Third Reich could not stand up to nazis,

They did and they paid the price for it. Death camps and gassed.

and Catholics in the USSR and red china could not stand up to communists.

They did and they paid the price for it. Gulags/re-educatin camps and starved to death. Add to that, VN and Cambodia murdered for standing for what they believed.

OTOH hand Catholics in Europe have standed up to muslims many times.

So what now? They stand for what they believe as long as it is not too close?

384 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:52:16am

On Using the Term "Cult"

Even though we have each studied cults and educated people about this subject for more than 20 years, neither of us has ever felt completely comfortable with the term "cult." No other term, however, serves more effectively the linked educational and research aims of ICSA (International Cultic Studies Association, founded as American Family Foundation in 1979), the organization that we serve as president (Rosedale) and executive director (Langone). In order to help others who have asked questions about the term "cult," we here offer some thoughts on the definition and use of this term.
Review of Definitions

According to the "Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary"(1971) the term, "cult," originally referred to "worship; reverential homage rendered to a divine being or beings...a particular form or system of religious worship; especially in reference to its external rites and ceremonies...devotion or homage to a particular person or thing." More recently, the term has taken on additional connotations:

3 : A religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious...

4 : A system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator...

5 a. great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work...b. a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion." (Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition, 1994)

Robbins's (1988) review of recent sociological contributions to the study of cults identifies four definitional perspectives:

(1) cults as dangerous, authoritarian groups;

(2) cults as culturally innovative or transcultural groups;

(3) cults as loosely structured protoreligions;

(4) Stark and Bainbridge’s (1985) subtypology that distinguishes among "audience cults" (members seek to receive information, e.g., through a lecture or tape series) "client cults" (members seek some specific benefit, e.g., psychotherapy, spiritual guidance), and "cult movements" (organizations that demand a high level of commitment from members). The Stark and Bainbridge typology relates to their finding that cult membership increases as church membership decreases.

Rutgers University professor Benjamin Zablocki (1997) says that sociologists often distinguish "cult" from "church," "sect," and "denomination." Cults are innovative, fervent groups. If they become accepted into the mainstream, cults, in his view, lose their fervor and become more organized and integrated into the community; they become churches. When people within churches become dissatisfied and break off into fervent splinter groups, the new groups are called sects. As sects become more stolid and integrated into the community, they become denominations. Zablocki defines a cult as "an ideological organization held together by charismatic relationships and demanding total commitment." According to Zablocki, cults are at high risk of becoming abusive to members, in part because members' adulation of charismatic leaders contributes to their becoming corrupted by the power they seek and are accorded.

Definitions proposed at various times by associates of ICSA tend to presume the manifestation of what is potential in Zablocki's definition. These definitions tend to emphasize elements of authoritarian structure, deception, and manipulation and the fact that groups may be psychotherapeutic, political, or commercial, as well as religious. One of the more commonly quoted definitions of "cult" was articulated at an ICSA/UCLA Wingspread Conference on Cultism in 1985:

Cult (totalist type): A group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea, or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control (e.g. isolation from former friends and family, debilitation, use of special methods to heighten suggestibility and subservience, powerful group pressures, information management
[SNIP]

385 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:52:39am

re: #381 MigueldowninMexico

BenZ


The christian (small 'c') cults don't get there main doctrines from extra biblical source's.

I think you meant the contrary.

DOH!

387 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:54:33am

BenZ
Replacement is the basis for Christian Theology.
It's impossible to understand Christianity without realizing this.
For Christians, Jesus Christ came to give us the plenitud of knowledge of God with His preaching and Graces. Thus, Christianity is more complete, thus it comes to replace.
Now, it depends on different groups to elaborate from there.
For Catholics, for instance, there will be Jews that will go to Heaven, others to Purgatory and others to Hell, just the same as in every single human group.
Other theologies only admit their own to Heaven, for instance. Etc.

388 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:55:41am

re: #386 Carl in Jerusalem

I had been posting that here over and over about a year ago.

Very interesting debate
IMO everyone should watch that.

389 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:56:12am

re: #382 formercorpsman

re: #380 MigueldowninMexico

Miguel, have a good day buddy.

Shower and shave time here.

Catch you guys later.

Goodbye, corpsman, you have a good day too! :)

390 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 3:58:08am

re: #387 MigueldowninMexico

Replacement is the basis for Christian Theology.

No it is not.

"Replacement Theology"

If the above definition is what you are referring to in your post (I hope it is not and you are just unaware of the theological usage of the terms)

it is entirely biblically incorrect

391 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:01:18am

What Is Replacement Theology?

Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises?

1. Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former.


2. The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans.


3. Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group.


4. Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church.


5. The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ.

[SNIP]

392 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:01:19am

Babba!
Hello there is good to see you :)
Congratulations for your great work!

Spanish conserves the word "culto" in the first meaning, like the worship of God.
"Secta" i. e. "sect", would be what "cult" is in modern English.

393 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:01:42am

re: #392 MigueldowninMexico

thanks Miguel
I have tons more work to do

394 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:02:54am

re: #387 MigueldowninMexico

BenZ
Replacement is the basis for Christian Theology.

Not according to Christians United for Israel.
This has yet to happen, notice the conditions for 'ceasing to be', no sun/moon/stars etc. I looked outside saw the stars.

Jeremiah 31:31-37 JPS
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah;
32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, saith the LORD.
33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people;
34 and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying: 'Know the LORD'; for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more.
35 Thus saith the LORD, Who giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, who stirreth up the sea, that the waves thereof roar, the LORD of hosts is His name:
36 If these ordinances depart from before Me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me for ever.
37 Thus saith the LORD: If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, then will I also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

395 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:07:35am

re: #391 BabbaZee

What Is Replacement Theology?

Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises?

1. Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former.


2. The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans.


3. Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group.


4. Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church.


5. The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ.

[SNIP]

Ok what I mean for "Replacement Theology" -at least from a Catholic viewpoint- applies to # 1 above. Numbers 2,3 and 5 definitively do not apply. Number four is taken only as figure of speech, the Church can be called "Israel" as figuratively, but there is an original Israel, still here, made up of the Jewish people.
So, in summe and strictly speaking, only #1 would apply.

396 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:11:24am

re: #394 BenZacharia

Ok BenZ. There can be a future Covenant for the Jewish people to enter with the Lord in.
I have no qualms with that.
But we Christians believe that we have a Covenant with God.
This one, Jews usually don't recognize.

397 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:13:42am

For those who abrogate unto themselves the title Jew/Israel who are not.

Revelation 3:9 YLT
Lo, I make of the synagogue of the Adversary (editors note aka 'Stan') those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but do lie; lo, I will make them that they may come and bow before thy feet, and may know that I loved thee (descentdants of Abe, Ike & Jake).

Ouch! That's gonna leave a bruise.

398 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:14:25am

Holly Molly Guacamolly.
It's so late and here I am talking about theology.
I will be heading to bed in a few minutes.
The discussion is very interesting though ;)

399 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:15:07am

re: #398 MigueldowninMexico

'Nite MdiM.

400 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:17:32am

re: #397 BenZacharia

For those who abrogate unto themselves the title Jew/Israel who are not.

Revelation 3:9 YLT
Lo, I make of the synagogue of the Adversary (editors note aka 'Stan') those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but do lie; lo, I will make them that they may come and bow before thy feet, and may know that I loved thee (descentdants of Abe, Ike & Jake).

Ouch! That's gonna leave a bruise.

BenZ
You're quoting Christian Scripture.
It could not refer to Christians as false Jews,as this is a Christian Prophecy.

Abe, Ike and Jake, went down to Amsterdam.

401 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:18:37am

Goodbye everybody and God bless :)

402 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:18:38am

Things ya learn in 4 years at a Baptist JH/HS*, until being expelled.

*It was free**, so my parents sent me.

**Weirod guardianship*** arrangement made it possible

***Not me, another.

/end notes

403 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:19:09am

re: #395 MigueldowninMexico

#1 is the mother of the rest

#1 is absolutely
unequivocally
biblically
wrong

and violates Genesis 12:3 to boot

The husband is up though so

I have to come back in a little while


I am sure Ben will shred this up in my absence though, LOL

404 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:20:11am

re: #400 MigueldowninMexico

BenZ
You're quoting Christian Scripture.

What am I suppose to quote to a Christian? The IHOP menu?

405 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:21:32am

re: #396 MigueldowninMexico

There can be a future Covenant for the Jewish people to enter with the Lord in.

Just saw this on refresh to see if the last post took, I have to address this

Sorry amigo but that is plain insane.

You need to actually read your bible yourself, and I mean deeply... not just accept the dogma or interpretation of your church.


Wow.

406 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:23:52am

re: #403 BabbaZee

re: #395 MigueldowninMexico

#1 is the mother of the rest

#1 is absolutely
unequivocally
biblically
wrong

and violates Genesis 12:3 to boot

The husband is up though so

I have to come back in a little while


I am sure Ben will shred this up in my absence though, LOL


He'll do nothing of the sort, as I am leaving LOL
But this is a like a banquet you present to me.
I'm salivating...
I will talk to you an BenZ about this in the future.
And as an heir of the Promises of YHWH I will sleep in His lap :p
Take care Babba.

407 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:26:09am

re: #405 BabbaZee

re: #396 MigueldowninMexico

There can be a future Covenant for the Jewish people to enter with the Lord in.

Just saw this on refresh to see if the last post took, I have to address this

Sorry amigo but that is plain insane.

You need to actually read your bible yourself, and I mean deeply... not just accept the dogma or interpretation of your church.


Wow.

Babba
Disqualifying like that someone who doesn't intepret things the way you do, won't cut it.
If it gets personal I rather pass on that discussion.

Good bye and take care.

408 Tigger2005  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:26:57am

re: #372 BenZacharia

re: #367 MigueldowninMexico

...except when a "religion" is a cult. As in the case of Islam.

And Mormons, Jws, 7th days....

I don't think we should consider a religious movement a "cult" just because they have beliefs that aren't "mainstream," or that they have a founding story for which the evidence for and against isn't lost in the mists of time. 2,000 years from now will anyone be able to prove conclusively that the metal discs and the Urim & Thummim didn't exist?

To me a cult is a religious movement that claims to have all the answers, that allows no doubt or questioning, that makes it difficult or impossible to leave, that requires separation from the rest of society and even from family, that demands absolute devotion and submission, and so on.

The question that must be asked of a Presidential candidate is: will he (or she) protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of his ability? Will he enforce secular law equally? Will he promote the religious rights and freedoms of ALL Americans?

If the candidate cannot satisfactorily answer these questions, or if his prior record or statements suggest that he cannot sufficiently separate his beliefs from his duties and responsibilities as the secular leader of all Americans, he should not be elected President.

409 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:33:56am

re: #408 Tigger2005

I don't think we should consider a religious movement a "cult" just because they have beliefs that aren't "mainstream,"...

Mormons "god was once a man, and we mormon men will become gods." "Jesus and Stan are blood brothers, having the same physical father."

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

410 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:39:09am
411 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:39:47am
412 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:41:54am

Beer prices are gonna' go up.

413 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:44:30am

'Kid gloves' surge worked. Can you imagine how well a real good old fashion Grant/Sherman/Lee/Ike/Patton/McArthur offensive would have worked?

414 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:45:47am

re: #412 MandyManners

Beer prices are gonna' go up.

Redeyes all around!

415 BenZacharia  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:47:01am

TTFN™, gotta free up the land line, expecting sad news soon.

416 nonic  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:48:50am

re: #408 Tigger2005

To me a cult is a religious movement that claims to have all the answers, that allows no doubt or questioning, that makes it difficult or impossible to leave, that requires separation from the rest of society and even from family, that demands absolute devotion and submission, and so on.

To me a cult is a religious movement that claims to have all the answers,

Everything is in the koran, from allah’s lips to your ear, ask the imam.

that allows no doubt or questioning,

Doubt is blasphemy, punishable by the lash.

that makes it difficult or impossible to leave,

Leaving is apostasy, punishable by death.

that requires separation from the rest of society and even from family,

The veil and “do not take infidels as friends.”

that demands absolute devotion and submission, and so on.

Groveling 5 times a day.

Conclusion? And that's without talking about valuing death over life. :-)

Good morning, people.

417 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 4:56:11am

Miguel:

Disqualifying like that someone who doesn't intepret things the way you do, won't cut it.

I go by the Word of GOD Miguel


not my own word or interpretation
and certainly
not the word or interpretation of a religious ~ism.

Replacement theology is just that, replacement.

It replaces the word of GOD with the word of Men.

Jesus said ZERO that was not supported by the "old testament"

Jesus said ZERO regarding replacing HIMSELF and his people.

Read your bible yourself cover to cover and then get back to me.


See you in a year or so on this then, hmm?

Unreal.

418 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:02:58am
419 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:04:15am

Tainted and exposed to its putrescent core: The Ron Paul Campaign and its Neo-Nazi Supporters

Now wouldn't it be down-right stupid to get mixed-up with such? hmmmm seems to me....

Von Paul, da.

420 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:06:08am

re: #419 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Every time I play six degrees of Vlaams Belang I end up at Ron Paul

421 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:07:29am

re: #419 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Also see here

422 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:08:26am
Perhaps you have heard of the term Replacement Theology. However, if you look it up in a dictionary of Church history, you will not find it listed as a systematic study. Rather, it is a doctrinal teaching that originated in the early Church. It became the fertile soil from which Christian anti-Semitism grew and has infected the Church for nearly 1,900 years.
424 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:10:45am

re: #420 BabbaZee

re: #419 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Every time I play six degrees of Vlaams Belang I end up at Ron Paul

Oh yeah! If the loon Ron Paul came out hard and fast against Islam, then I think you'd have to give him a groin pull.

425 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:12:32am

re: #424 right wing zephyr

He's a stalking horse, a test of the water.

426 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:14:05am

re: #417 BabbaZee

Miguel:

Disqualifying like that someone who doesn't intepret things the way you do, won't cut it.

I go by the Word of GOD Miguel


not my own word or interpretation
and certainly
not the word or interpretation of a religious ~ism.

Replacement theology is just that, replacement.

It replaces the word of GOD with the word of Men.

Jesus said ZERO that was not supported by the "old testament"

Jesus said ZERO regarding replacing HIMSELF and his people.

Read your bible yourself cover to cover and then get back to me.


See you in a year or so on this then, hmm?

Unreal.

Awesome and Just! The idea that there are people like you out there, fills me with hope.

427 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:16:29am

MIGUEL YOUR OWN CHURCH AGREES WITH ME

In any event, a helpful place to start is this Statement, by Walter Cardinal Kasper, the President of the Church's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, Antisemitism, a Wound to be Healed looks at Christian (and in particular, Catholic) antisemitism in the context of contempory Catholic theological approaches to relations between Catholics and Jews. The article is two years old, and couched in an idiom that may be unfamiliar to non-students of Vatican documents, but is worthwhile reading for those who seek to understand exactly what Church teachings on "replacement theology" and antisemitism actually are. Replacement theology has been explicitly rejected by the Catholic Church:

Consequently, as a "messianic people", the Church does not replace Israel, but is grafted onto it, according to the Pauline doctrine, through adherence to Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world, who died and rose; and this link forms a spiritual bond that is radical, unique and insuppressible for Christians. Although the contrasting concept - of an Israel once (olim) pre-chosen but later rejected by God for ever and now replaced by the Church - may have had widespread dissemination for almost 20 centuries, it does not in reality represent a truth of the faith, as can be seen both in the ancient Creeds of the early Church and in the teaching of the most important Councils, especially of the Second Vatican Council (Lumen Gentium, n. 16; Dei Verbum, nn. 14-16; Nostra Aetate, n. 4).

Nostra Aetate is the Second Vatican Council's Decree on relations between the Church and other religions. Citing Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Kasper continues:

Dialogue and collaboration between Christians and Jews also implies that "acknowledgment be given to any part which the children of the Church have had in the growth and spread of anti-Semitism in history; forgiveness must be sought for this from God, and every effort must be made to favour encounters of reconciliation and of friendship with the sons of Israel"

SNIP

428 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:17:33am

re: #426 right wing zephyr

{RWZ}

Well I've noticed that more often than not it fills

most

people with dread and anger, LOL

429 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:18:37am

re: #425 BabbaZee

re: #424 right wing zephyr

He's a stalking horse, a test of the water.

The Enemy twists... and stalks, not to hurt you but to Kill you and Destroy you.

430 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:19:04am

re: #429 right wing zephyr

mmhmm Stan, the Big Daddy-O of THE LIE

431 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:20:01am
432 1SG(ret)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:20:55am

{Yo Babba} Sure glad you have the energy to confront these things!

Top

433 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:21:30am

First, the Church specifically rejects "replacement theology" and the "teaching of contempt" towards Jews, to a greater degree than many Orthodox Churches and protestant denominations.

Second, the Church unsurprisingly rejects anti-semitism.

Third, the Church rejects "anti-Zionism", as a form of anti-semitism.

But then we have the Latin Patriach of Jerusalem. I say, burn, heretic, burn! One of the great challenges faced by the Church today is to combat the vestigal attitudes of those within the Church who have not fully accepted the Magesterium's teaching on Jewish-Catholic relations. Against this, Arab Christians no doubt face persecution by their Mohammedan "bretheren", and are tempted to respond by "being more Arab than the Arab Nationalists". It is a shame and a disgrace that judenhass has become such an important component of Arab self-image.

Therein lies the moral challenge for the Church. It is a moral challenge for Catholics everywhere.

434 Onslow  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:21:47am
435 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:21:54am

re: #428 BabbaZee

re: #426 right wing zephyr

{RWZ}

Well I've noticed that more often than not it fills

most

people with dread and anger, LOL

Well, start proselytizing, and for Kerry's sake, hurry up.
LOL

436 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:22:33am

re: #432 1SG(ret)

{TOP!}

Today I hope to go back to work on my recent WN/ VB project
I have not had much energy or time the last 5 days or so

437 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:22:41am

Now that's he's junked plans to give out licenses to illegals (for now), New York's governor still has many problems ahead.

Did One Spitzer Aide Threaten Another?

Meanwhile, another celebrity Kool-aid drinker is being rumored as a potential future gubernatorial candidate in New Jersey. He no doubt will have the mall hair vote.

I really have to get out of here.

438 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:27:53am

re: #435 right wing zephyr

I don't "proselytize"
LOL

I walk with GOD openly, radically....
and sometimes that makes people want what I appear to have.

SO far it seems to work very well. I have been told over the years that I have made many converts, Jews and Christians as well as non denominational Feral Jewtian Remnantians like me, LOL

Also this walk brings persecution, especially since I do it outside of the confines of a recognizable ~ ism....but I was explicitly warned of that in advance ;~}

439 LordNazh  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:31:00am

[Link: lordnazh.com...]

SF tries to do what Spitzer couldn't (bring the illegals 'out of the shadows')

440 Gambini  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:31:05am

Hi all
Just a question, what is the technical difference between Fjordman and Jared Taylor, for example?

I've just come across this article (here), and he sincerly exposes his "real" views.
he says:
I believe whites in the 21st century should desire a room of our own where we can prosper, live in a major Western city without having to fear violence because of our race, and without being stripped of our heritage in order to placate people who moved to our countries out of their own free will. We have the right to preserve our heritage and are under no obligation to commit collective suicide or serve as a dumping ground for other countries. It has nothing to do with animosity towards others. For my part, I am being entirely honest if I say that I still love visiting other cultures, but I will love this even more if I know I can also return to my own.

So from the above point, I can conclude he's a white nationalist, or preservationist, just like Jared Taylor, he wants to live "peacefully" in a white living space. White natinalism is not the same as white supremacism, WNs just want to live in a non-white-free society (at least that's what they say).

Well, I am not going to criticize his views, knowing he's from a small country of 4 million of people, very homogenous and where nationhood is defined by ethnicity.

But why isn't he sincere about the reasons behind his real opposition to Islam?, let's suppose "non-whites" leave his country, will he still be opposed to Islam?

Why does he care about "whiteness" in the United States, a country very different from Norway and Iceland?

Why does he rant about the non-assimilation of immigrants if he frankly believes that a black who was born in england, for example, can never embrace western culture and be part of the western world, for the sole reason that he doesn't have the right skin color?
Why all the rants about "integration" if in the bottom of his heart, skin-color is an impenetrable barrier to adopting Western Values?

I am not going to criticize his views because he has the right to hold them, what I criticize is his lack of honesty.

Another poster put it very clear:

Let us avoid the use of racial terminology, even when we know what we really mean when we use it. Move the fingers a little more on the keyboard (i.e. "Western culture" instead of "whites")--the gains, in the form of not supplying the Leftraitors with ammunition against us cultural preservationists, are invaluable.

That's exactly what I always thought about his essays and his over-use of western-[put anything you want].

441 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:35:17am

re: #438 BabbaZee

re: #435 right wing zephyr

I don't "proselytize"
LOL

I walk with GOD openly, radically....
and sometimes that makes people want what I appear to have.

SO far it seems to work very well. I have been told over the years that I have made many converts, Jews and Christians as well as non denominational Feral Jewtian Remnantians like me, LOL

Also this walk brings persecution, especially since I do it outside of the confines of a recognizable ~ ism....but I was explicitly warned of that in advance ;~}

Well said, and it's true for me as well. (Except the Feral Jewtian Remnantian) I'm a gentile but saved only because of the sacrifice of Christ. And certainly not without faults, but I'm going to meet my savior "white as snow".

442 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:36:38am

re: #440 Gambini

Hi Gambini

what I criticize is his lack of honesty

Rightly so

443 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:37:28am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning Lizards! &#9836 &#9834

445 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:40:06am

jello miss T

446 Gambini  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:40:46am
%u266A %u266C Good morning Lizards! %u266C %u266A


Good morning, even if it's already afternoon here.

447 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:41:57am

re: #441 right wing zephyr

I keep telling Christians that basically they are "volunteer Jews"
LOL

Many do not like that.

Weeds out the undesirables immediately!

448 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:42:05am

Markos welcomed as newest contributor to NewsWeak, because their anti-Americanism just hasn't been diverse enough.


No, really!

Here's the statement from Newsweek editor Jon Meachem, which seems to anticipate some sort of reaction from a disgruntled element:

"We have always sought to represent a diversity of views in Newsweek, and we think Markos will be a great part of that tradition. He will give our readers in print and online a unique perspective. As always, our job is to create the most energetic and illuminating magazine possible, and Markos will help us do that as the campaign unfolds."

449 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:42:11am

re: #445 BabbaZee

jello miss T

What flabor? :D Morning, Babbalouey. What snoo?

450 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:42:47am
451 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:43:39am

re: #421 BabbaZee

re: #419 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Also see here

And here.

452 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:45:22am

re: #447 BabbaZee

re: #441 right wing zephyr

I keep telling Christians that basically they are "volunteer Jews"
LOL

Many do not like that.

Weeds out the undesirables immediately!

LOL, some might be from a one of the 12 tribes and not even know it.

But that's funny.

453 Gambini  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:45:55am
Gambini

When playing six degrees of Vlaams Belang, Paul Belien, Dewinter, et al you also arrive at Jared Taylor

one of many ties that bind


Note also, how Jared Taylor claims he's not an anti-semite, while blaming Jews for de-segregation and the civil rights movement.

454 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:45:56am

re: #447 BabbaZee

good morning Babbazee....how goes it.lol I consider myself adopted or as they say grafted onto the vine.

455 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:49:14am

David Duke's website

which I will not link to here

calls Ron Paul "our king"

456 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:50:37am

re: #454 hayseed

Hiya Hayseed!
Banjers!

457 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:51:11am

re: #453 Gambini

mmhmm

THE BIG LIE is in full swing

458 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:51:41am

re: #452 right wing zephyr

LOL, some might be from a one of the 12 tribes and not even know it.

MMHMM LOLOLOLOLOL!
HA!

459 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:53:47am

Lions and Tigers and King Ron, oh my!

mornin' lizards. :)

460 friarstale  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:56:26am

has anyone else noticed the Drudge typo this morning?

Opec no outout hike

prob should be no output hike

461 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:56:43am
462 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:56:53am

re: #439 LordNazh

[Link: lordnazh.com...]

SF tries to do what Spitzer couldn't (bring the illegals 'out of the shadows')


Well, hopefully when they come out of the shadows, ICE will be waiting for them.

/dream. i know.

463 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:57:42am

re: #460 friarstale


I just thought maybe Matt was doin some " baby talk".

464 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:57:42am

re: #451 Carl in Jerusalem
RE: Zionists for Ron Paul
many "pro-Israel" types today

think that Israel is a racist, apartheid state, just like the left does

it's just that they are OK with that
and it makes them seem in opposition to the left
and it provides cover for their entryism in to legitimate right wing circles that do support Israel for biblical or moral reasons, not craven reasons of "racial nationalism"

Support of Israel supports their own "nationalism"
they figure this gives them a handy place to deport all their Jews to once they seize power - at which time they will then tacitly help the Jihad to drive all the Jews into the sea

I have seen coversations detailing cooperation between JDL supporters and segments of the White Power movement on Dutch WN discussion boards.

That's how sick this thing is.

465 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 5:59:54am

re: #460 friarstale

I cant look at Drudge it's too ugly a page LOL

I only go there if I HAVE to

466 NoSubmission  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:00:54am

re: #455 BabbaZee

David Duke's website

which I will not link to here

calls Ron Paul "our king"

UGH!

467 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:01:25am

Good morning Y'all - from a pleasant (61 degrees going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

469 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:03:05am

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

WOW

Do or die


Spc. Channing Moss should be dead by all accounts. And those who saved his life did so knowing they might have died with him.

Watch the video

March 16, 2006. Southeastern Afghanistan. A fierce ambush and bloody firefight. It was over in a flash and Moss was left on the verge of death.

He was impaled through the abdomen with a rocket-propelled grenade, and an aluminum rod with one tail fin protruded from the left side of his torso.

His fellow soldiers worried: Could he blow up and take them with him? For all anyone knew, the answer was yes.

Still, over the course of the next couple of hours, his buddies, a helicopter crew and a medical team would risk their own lives to save his.

“Moss is an African-American and he’s gone to white. He’s in total shock from the loss of blood. But at the time, I really didn’t think about it. I knew [the RPG] was there but I thought, if we didn’t do it, if we didn’t get him out of there, he was going to die,” said flight medic Sgt. John Collier, 29, then a specialist.

“It was an extremely unusual set of events. He should have died three times that day,” said Maj. John Oh, 759th Forward Surgical Team general surgeon.

The 36-year-old’s surgical skill and command of his own nerves would be put to the ultimate test as, wearing helmet and body armor, he would operate to extract the ordnance from Moss’s booby-trapped body. One wrong move risked the lives of the patient, his own and those of the other members of the medical team.

He said the payoff was worth the gamble.

“For a soldier to be struck by an RPG and be flown and have surgery and survive ... it’s unheard of,” said Oh. “It was a pretty remarkable experience.”


Read the rest.

Good morning!

Anyone see this incredible story yet this morning?

470 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:03:10am

re: #467 realwest

I'm doin fine realwest...narcotics and coffee the breakfast of champions.lol

471 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:04:03am

YO BABBA!

472 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:04:18am

re: #440 Gambini

Considering that 1) If the anthropologists are right, then we're all descended from African paleo-ancestors, and 2) Europe has been a super-highway for invaders and migrants from Asia and Africa (such as the Mongols and the Carthaginians - and don't even get me started on the caliphate), would somebody please tell me what these white people are? Race is an illusion. Racism is a reality.

473 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:06:57am

re: #470 hayseed Hey good morning my friend!
Narcotics and coffee hey? I always thought that it was steroids and coffee that was the breakfast of Champions! LOL!
How are you doing (other than both relaxed - from the narcotics and hyper - from the coffee)
this fine morning?!

474 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:08:52am

Tropical Storm Gupa expected to recurve and deliver only a glancing blow to Queensland.

Meanwhile, a much more serious tropical threat, Very Severe Tropical Cyclone Sidr may threaten Calcutta and the Ganges delta of Western Bangladesh.

University of Wisconsin CIMMS automated Dvorak technique has Sidr just below a dangerous Category 5 cyclone on the Saffir-Simpson scale


UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 14 NOV 2007 Time : 123000 UTC
Lat : 15:51:01 N Lon : 89:22:07 E


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.7 / 907.6mb/132.2kt


6hr-Avg T# 3hr-Avg T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.7 6.7 6.9 6.9

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +0.0mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : -44.9C Cloud Region Temp : -82.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : INDIAN
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : PACIFIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

*********************************************


132 knots is 152 mph or 245 km/hr.

Joint Typhoon Warning Center path is a worst case hit into the delta, although JTWC predicts weakening due to increasing shear, down to Cat 2 intensity at landfall. However, since this is a large and strong storm, the storm surge at landfall may be higher than a normal Cat 2. Recall, Hurricane Katrina was a Cat 3 at landfall, having weakened from a Cat 5 the previous day, and produced a Cat 5 storm surge.

India Met Department advisory:


DEMS-RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONES NEW DELHI DATED 14-11-2007

TROPICAL STORM “SIDR” ADVISORY NO. NINETEEN ISSUED AT 1200 UTC OF 14 NOVEMBER, 2007.

THE VERY SEVERE CYCLONIC STORM “SIDR” OVER EASTCENTRAL AND ADJOINING WESTCENTRAL BAY OF BENGAL MOVED NORTHWARDS AND LAY CENTRED AT 0900 UTC OF TODAY, THE 14TH NOVEMBER 2007 OVER EASTCENTRAL AND ADJOINING WESTCENTRAL BAY OF BENGAL NEAR LAT. 15.50 N AND LONG 89.50 E, ABOUT 800 KM SOUTH OF KOLKATA(42809 ). IT IS LIKELY TO INTENSIFY FURTHER AND MOVE IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION AND CROSS WEST BENGAL-BANGLADESH COAST NEAR SAGAR ISLAND ( 42903 ) BY 16TH NOVEMBER 2007 MORNING.

ESTIMATED CENTRAL PRESSURE: 964 HPA

THE SATELLITE IMAGERIES SHOW SOLID INTENSE TO VERY INTENSE CONVECTIVE CLOUDS AROUND THE SYSTEM CENTRE. CURRENT INTENSITY: T5.0 RPT T5.0. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WIND SPEED IS 90-100 KTS AROUND THE STROM CENTRE.


SEA: PHENOMENAL.


FORECAST: THE STORM IS LIKELY TO MOVE IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION AT ABOUT 09 KT. INTENSIFY T5.5 RPT T5.5 WITH WINDS OF 110 KT GUSTING TO 125 KTS NEAR THE CENTRE OF THE STORM AT 0900 UTC OF 15TH NOVEMBER 2007.


They don't have spell check in India, apparently.
I'd also tend to trust the higher winds/lower pressure of the UW site. That is a classic looking cyclone.

475 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:09:47am
476 ec marm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:10:01am

re: #461 christheprofessor

Global Temperatures 2500 BC to 2007 AD


&#9834 Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris? &#9834
I was reading through the Wiki page recently and came across one of the variables in global temperature fluctuations - as the planet revolves around the sun, our solar system is also revolving around inside of the Milky Way. Differing quantities of cosmic dust and debris as we change location interfere with solar output. I plan to chart the debris for the next 500,000 years and get back to you with my report.

477 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:10:19am
478 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:10:50am

Just give Hillary a WINK if you've got an easy pre-chewed question for her.


I can't wait for our nation to be led by the liar couple again. fun times.

479 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:11:04am

re: #475 BabbaZee
LOL! Thanks for that Babba! How are you doing this fine morning?

480 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:11:48am

Nice talking with you BabbaZee, but I have to go and cut down an evergreen that's disrupting my power line. Have a Blessed day!

GO GREEN!

481 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:12:09am
482 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:12:33am

re: #476 ec marm

Very interesting, I didn't know that, thanks. I'm not sure I'll still be around after the next 500K years, as I'm already middle-aged...

483 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:12:38am

re: #480 right wing zephyr

Have a good one RWZ

484 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:13:34am

Morning Babba and others. Don't forget, some of us belonging to recognizable ~isms find that the best way to walk humbly with our God, imperfectly as it may be.

485 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:14:06am

re: #479 realwest

Busier than the three legged man in the ass kicking contest

I have to go in a few minutes.

486 ec marm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:15:07am

re: #480 right wing zephyr

Nice talking with you BabbaZee, but I have to go and cut down an evergreen that's disrupting my power line. Have a Blessed day!

GO GREEN!


Uh, isn't that something that your local utility will do for free? Not to mention a lot safer? In my neck of the woods, they will 'top' a tree so it is under the lines, at which point you can drop it. Be safe.

487 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:15:33am

re: #484 Spenser (with an S)

Don't forget, some of us belonging to recognizable ~isms find that the best way to walk humbly with our God, imperfectly as it may be.


Oh I don't say that is not the case at all
just specifying that I belong to none of them, for the reader's context.

488 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:15:57am
489 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:16:47am

Good morning all.

Michael Moore sighted in Florida.

(Well, it is my guess that it is Michael Moore)

490 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:17:15am
"non denominational Feral Jewtian Remnantians"

One of the many reasons I love you Babba.

{Babba}

491 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:17:25am

re: #485 BabbaZee Huh. I thought that was busier than a ONE legged man in an ass kicking contest (3 legs would, ya know, give you a leg up, so to speak!)?!

492 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:17:26am

Opinion Journal item looks at irreversible BDS.

493 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:17:30am

re: #482 christheprofessor

re: #476 ec marm

Very interesting, I didn't know that, thanks. I'm not sure I'll still be around after the next 500K years, as I'm already middle-aged...

Well not with that attitude you won't! :-)

494 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:18:40am

re: #490 coz Hey coz, good morning to ya! How are things in cozland today?

495 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:20:28am

re: #493 {m} Hey m! Good morning sugah! How are you this morning? You're out here kinda early, no?
And don't worry about CtP - he thinks he's middle aged when he's really just a youngin'! LOL!

496 ec marm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:20:43am

re: #482 christheprofessor
I forgot to add the wiki link. There are a ton of variables in the equation, in real science, that is. As opposed to the AlGore junk variety.

Babba - that is imo, the best Zappa tune of them all!

497 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:21:21am

Praying Lizards,

Please pray for our washing machine.

Wifey just called.

It is broke.

So are we.

498 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:22:34am

Realwest!

Hiya there, my friend!

499 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:23:02am

re: #491 realwest

lol

500 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:23:31am

{COZ}

Big Daddy!

501 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:23:47am

Good Morning Everybody and Happy Hump Day from the Land of Coz!

502 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:09am

re: #488 FrogMarch

Why I Think Hillary Will Win

I read that yesterday.

I'm tired of these Republicans like Dick Armey and NEwt Gingrich surrendering a year in advance and telling me how brilliant that shrew is.

Have a little confidence, guys. She's eminently beatable.

I have a simple question for her, though I doubt Wolfie Blitzed has the stones to ask it.

503 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:25am

LIZARDIM!

OY VEY.

realwest-good news for you in Charlotte:

First of 22 Muslim Shrines to Be Built in Charlotte, NC-By Distant Relative of Mo Himself

504 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:35am

re: #473 realwest

I'm doing good....got to call the doc's office today and see were they are at with plans for my surgery. he had to get together with some other docs to see what the best plan of attack was.lol

505 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:39am

re: #496 ec marm

It is too hard for me to pick my favorite Zappa tune

506 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:41am

re: #487 BabbaZee

Yeah, I know. I was just specifying too. Do you or anyone here know where I can get a Mezuzuah?

507 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:48am

re: #497 coz coz that's terrible news. I'll pray for you to make some money really soon (sorta like if a man is hungry and you give him a fish, he'll still be hungry tomorrow, but if you teach him to fish, he'll still need a washing machine
tomorrow or something like that)! LOL!

508 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:24:56am

Word of the Day
Wednesday November 14, 2007

flaneur flah-NUR, noun:
One who strolls about aimlessly; a lounger; a loafer.

509 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:25:39am

re: #493 m

re: #495 realwest

Dont you guys know that I'm already 250,000 years old (but I don't look a day over 200,000)... ;)

re: #496 ec marm

Thanks. Weather models are notoriously complex (I'm no meteorologist, I base that on what I've read and my stats background).

Gore is an idiot (I base that on my experience).

510 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:25:47am

Good Morning!
RE: The CIA/FBI Hezbollah illegal alien spy woman:

If only they had given her the same scrutiny that TSA reserves for little old ladies and middle aged bald guys.

511 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:26:17am

re: #497 coz

never prayed for a washing machine..but will pray for your situation.

512 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:27:29am

re: #492 JammieWearingFool

Opinion Journal item looks at irreversible BDS.

That's the difference between us and them. If Hillary becomes President, I'm not going to festoon my car with Hillary-hating bumper stickers. I'm not proud to hate people.

513 FriarsTale  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:27:53am

Juan-tanamera

in honor of King Juan Carlos' smackdown of Hugo Chavez

514 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:28:03am

re: #497 coz

Please pray for our washing machine

Coz, will do. Do you have Craig's List by you? I spend a half-hour a night just looking over the items for sale. Sometime amazing bargains for things people need rid of. I got a fridge there just last month.

515 ec marm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:28:18am

re: #507 realwest

(sorta like if a man is hungry and you give him a fish, he'll still be hungry tomorrow, but if you teach him to fish,


But if you teach him to phish, he can commit identity theft on the multitudes and buy a brand new washing machine.

516 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:28:40am

re: #509 christheprofessor
Its' inherently moronic to insist that all scientist agree on the weather a hundred years from now but the same scientists can't tell you what it will be next week.

517 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:29:03am

Midweek Q & A style trivia:

What explorer introduced pigs to North America?
A: Christopher Columbus.

What magazine boasts the slogan: "Test, Inform, Protect"?
A: Consumer Reports.

Who was billed as the "Killer of Custer" in Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show?
A: Sitting Bull.

What railway linked Moscow and Irkutsk in 1900?
A: The Trans-Siberian Railway.

What is the minimum number of musicians a band must have to be considered a "big band"?
A: Ten.

What's a water moccasin often called, due to the white inside its mouth?
A: A cottonmouth.

What nation was bounced from the Organization of American States in 1962?
A: Cuba.

What continent has the fewest flowering plants?
A: Antartica.

What element begins with the letter "K"?
A: Krypton.

What country saw a world record 315 million voters turn out for elections on May 20, 1991?
A: India.

What Lewis Carroll book was banned in China after censors decided: "Animals should not use human language"?
A: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

What is the least popular month for U.S. weddings?
A: January.

518 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:29:58am

re: #506 Spenser (with an S)

LGF poster Alouette has a store
I am trying to find where I put the link

519 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:30:25am

Coz, do you know what's wrong with it? Is it just the motor?

521 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:30:50am

re: #507 realwest

sorta like if a man is hungry and you give him a fish, he'll still be hungry tomorrow, but if you teach him to fish, he'll still need a washing machine tomorrow or something like that

Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life....

522 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:30:52am

re: #515 ec marm

dam I thought the link was a phish video.lol

523 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:31:04am

Coz
Reason to hope:
Take the back off with a screwdriver: 70% chance that the drive belt is broken. You can take it to an auto parts store and they will find a new one you can install yourself. Cost about $10.

524 carl b  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:31:05am

Today the Mohammad Al-Dura film will be shown in the French court, but the scam is likely to continue. According to the JPost

the court will see only 18 of the reported 27 minutes of footage filmed by France 2 TV's Palestinian cameraman that day.

France 2's correspondent in Israel, Charles Enderlin, told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday that he had no idea why anyone had thought there were 27 minutes of footage.

"I do not know where this 27 minutes comes from," he said. "In all, there were only 18 minutes of footage shot in Gaza."

Maybe because the palestinians themselves and the French cameraman have sworn to this! Statement under oath by a photographer of the French TV, France 2 from the Palestinian National Authority State Information Service on 10/3/2000, 3 days after the purported incident:

“I, the undersigned, Talal Hassan Abu Rahma, resident of the Gaza Strip and who bears ID no. 959852849, give my statement under oath and after having been given legal warning and choice by Lawyer Raji Sourani, on the killing of Mohammed Jamal Al-Durreh and the injuring of his father Jamal Al-Durreh both shot at by the Israeli Occupying Forces.
...
I spent approximately 27 minutes photographing the incident which took place for 45 minutes. After the father and the child were evacuated by an ambulance to the hospital, I stayed 30-40 minutes.
...
“I have hereby given my testimony under oath and after being legally warned and granted the choice. I swear that all the above – mentioned statement is right and consistent with reality and law.”

Signature:

Talal Hassan Abu Rahma

Gaza, October 3, 2000

This statement was given before me and in my presence, after giving legal warning and choice, and under oath.

Lawyer

Raji Sourani

525 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:31:18am

CTP,

Global Temperatures 2500 BC to 2007 AD

Give it up CTP. The science on Global Warming is settled. Do you hear that? It's settled!

You're no better than a Holocaust Denier.

Speaking of Doomsday Scenarios. Perhaps I should start my own magma offset racket.

526 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:31:48am

re: #495{realwest}!

Hey!

re: #509{christheprofessor}!

You're sure holding up well! :-)

{Coz}! {Coz}! {Coz}!
She probably got tired of doing the laundry for a family of 9 and broke it on purpose! ;-) BREAK TIME! lol

527 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:31:52am

re: #503 WriterMom Oh. Joy. I didn't see anything in that story about 22 shrines in Charlotte, but this Sheik Gilani is creating 22 muslim communities all over the US!
Be careful - he might be building one near you!

BOOGA BOOGA!

528 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:32:09am

BIG, OPERATIVE BABBA IS RIPPING US OFF!

{Babbazeebs}

529 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:32:20am

re: #514 Spenser (with an S)

I've heard of Craig's List. The nearest city to me that hsa that is about 45-50 minutes away.

'round here its Old MacDonald (had a farm) 's list.

530 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:32:37am

For all you husbands out there, I also got a new-looking 10k gold, 1ctw tennis bracelet for my wife for Christmas- $70. I ran over to a jewelers and had a $20 appraisal done. $400. Now, I just have to decide what to call it. Ladies? I'm thinking Estate Jewelry. Sounds better than "My bastard ex gave me this and I kicked him out 3 months later and I can't stand to look at it anymore" Jewelry.

531 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:33:24am

PK!

Good Morning!
RE: The CIA/FBI Hezbollah illegal alien spy woman:

If only they had given her the same scrutiny that TSA reserves for little old ladies and middle aged bald guys.

But then they would not have had time for the little old ladies and middle aged bald guys. :-/

532 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:33:36am
533 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:33:57am

re: #519 1redthread

No idea. I'm at work , she called and said it won't spin?

/whatever that means

534 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:34:06am

re: #530 Spenser (with an S)

For all you husbands out there, I also got a new-looking 10k gold,
1ctw tennis bracelet for my wife for Christmas- $70. I ran over to a
jewelers and had a $20 appraisal done. $400. Now, I just have to decide
what to call it. Ladies? I'm thinking Estate Jewelry. Sounds better
than "My bastard ex gave me this and I kicked him out 3 months later
and I can't stand to look at it anymore" Jewelry.

I'm in the biz & "estate jewelry" is exactly what we would call that.
"Fine Jewelry" means that she wouldn't have kicked him out.

535 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:34:56am

re: #523 Peacekeeper

I'll call her now and tell her to hold off on a repair guy until I look at it tonight, thanks!

536 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:35:02am

re: #530 Spenser (with an S)

Vintage.

537 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:35:04am

re: #516 Peacekeeper

Yup. And all a weather forecast is is a description of what the weather was like given identitcal conditions in the past (i.e., if they say there's an 80% chance of precipitation tomorrow, all that means is that when the variables they measure were as they are expected to be tomorrow, it was raining 80% of the time).

True, there is a difference between weather and climate. I imagine it's even harder to predict climate than weather...

538 right wing zephyr  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:35:23am

Oh T: I forgot to post this that cracked me up this morning.

From the Weekly Standard Oct 22:

: ...Kurtz unearths a story about Rather in his waning days at CBS. Feeling beset by enemies on all sides, Rather looked for solace wherever he could find it. Kurts reports, " He had been to see Good Night and Good Luck, the George Clooney film about [heroic anchorman Edward] Murrow, five times, sometimes sitting in the darkened theater by himself."

I imagine him with a couple tears as well.

539 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:35:25am

m, m, m!

{m}

540 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:35:54am

m!

Which is harder? Getting hired by the CIA AND the FBI or the 7 Eleven?

541 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:36:08am

re: #533 coz

If it's a motor you need, I may be able to help you get one. You can contact me on my profile page on my site. Click my name and you get there.

542 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:36:56am

re: #515 ec marm

re: #521 christheprofessor

ROTFL! heh! How are you folks this fine morning?

543 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:37:09am

re: #537 christheprofessor

Which reminds me: Has anyone ever considered running the models backwards and checking to see if they predict 1907 weather?

544 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:37:15am

re: #529 coz

The nearest city to me that hsa that is about 45-50 minutes away.

Yeah, that makes it tougher. If you have a diagnosis on it, I'm sure many here will have some suggestions. What happened when it broke? What kind of noise is it making or not making? If it just sits there quietly, it might be a control panel thing. If it's trying to work, but not spinning, it could be a belt (although mine doesn't have one) or a blown motor. FWIW.

545 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:38:05am

re: #521 christheprofessor,

Now you are sounding like me. :-)

546 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:38:23am

re: #532 BabbaZee

Aloutte's Store. Thanks Babba!

547 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:38:38am

re: #535 coz Also check for plugged hoses, clean out all dryer lint that may have got in. Lint can stick to a motor and overheat it, forcing it to shut down.

548 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:38:56am

re: #541 1redthread

Cool!

I suppose I won't know until I get into it later tonight.

Thanks for the VOTE for COZ at your site!

We're in the final stretch!

549 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:39:21am

Sh*t here comes work. Evasive action Mr. Sulu!

550 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:39:54am

re: #534 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


I'm in the biz & "estate jewelry" is exactly what we would call that.
"Fine Jewelry" means that she wouldn't have kicked him out.

Thanks, BDVM.

551 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:40:40am

re: #546 Spenser (with an S)

most welcome

552 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:41:21am

re: #536 1redthread

Vintage

Thanks, good word.

553 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:41:33am

I appreciate all the advice on the washer thing. I'll dig into it when I get home this evening.

554 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:41:33am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the FBI and CIA can't bother with proper background checks that would have found that a Lebanese illegal alien applied for both - and got hired for both.

Then, she managed to get her hands on materials relating to Hizbullah.

That's not all. Her former employer is a fugitive believed to be in Lebanon and was involved with ICE officials in getting people into the US and fundraising for Hizbullah.

Oh, and her punishment for all this - losing her job at CIA, her citizenship is stripped (she wasn't a citizen to begin with) and a modest jail sentence.

555 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:42:09am

re: #533 coz " it won't spin?" Well heck, tell her to put on some Rock and Roll!
If that don't work, call a repair guy to give you an estimate and compare vs cost of new machine!

556 ec marm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:42:09am

re: #542 realwest

ROTFL! heh! How are you folks this fine morning?


I'm good, except I thought my hard drive crashed. I had to resort to giving it a whack with my finger to get it moving this morning. Not a good sign. Prolly last a few more d

557 Onslow  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:42:42am

Lee Bollinger ripped by Columbia faculty for his mistreatment of Ahmadinejad.

558 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:42:55am

re: #528 Peacekeeper

LOL

Hiya PK

559 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:43:13am

re: #525 Dirk Diggler

Heh. Ain't no science like consensus... ;)

Or history like consensus, for that matter... :(

re: #526 m

You're sure holding up well! :-)

It's the red wine I drink...

560 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:44:45am

{m}


gotta go

BBL

561 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:44:50am

re: #502 JammieWearingFool

I have a simple question for her, though I doubt Wolfie Blitzed has the stones to ask it.


I still want to see someone hit her with a question about Dihydrogen Monoxide. Would she get the joke or will she try to give a serious answer?

562 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:44:55am

re: #545 Iron Fist Hey good morning bro'! How are you this fine day?

563 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:45:58am

re: #535 coz

re: #523 Peacekeeper

I'll call her now and tell her to hold off on a repair guy until I look at it tonight, thanks!

Coz, I have been having to fix my own washers for more than 30 years now. 90% of the time what blows is the switch that makes the thing spin. You can over-ride that by jamming a chopstick down in the hole where the spike from the lid goes in - it is usually on the right. Keep the kids away from the machine, because it will now spin with the lid open.

The other big problem I've had was one that ate baby socks, which then got jammed in the pump. That is accessible from the back of the machine (I eventually just left the back off.) More manageable if you stick the socks in a net bag before washing them.

You might also call Rent A Center. You'll pay a little extra but no big down payment required and you can rent a washer for just a few weeks if need be. (Make sure you get a brand new washer or a USED washer price!)

564 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:46:16am

re: #538 right wing zephyr

Oh T: I forgot to post this that cracked me up this morning.

From the Weekly Standard Oct 22:

: ...Kurtz unearths a story about Rather in his waning days at CBS. Feeling beset by enemies on all sides, Rather looked for solace wherever he could find it. Kurts reports, " He had been to see Good Night and Good Luck, the George Clooney film about [heroic anchorman Edward] Murrow, five times, sometimes sitting in the darkened theater by himself."

I imagine him with a couple tears as well.

I had no idea Rather was into torture.

565 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:46:31am

re: #556 ec marm ROTFLMAO! Y'all shoulda wacked it with a hammer! Every time I approach my 'puter with a hammer, why it just starts hummin' along like new! LOL!

566 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:46:40am

First there was this outrage:


"The issue of whether genocide has taken place in the West Bank or Gaza certainly will be part of [what] the task force [is] looking into."

Yet it seems like they've backed down.

Though one of the co-chairs, former US Defense Secretary William Cohen, originally said that the situation in the West Bank and Gaza would be considered, the task force later clarified that such an inquiry would be beyond the scope of the panel.

"Its task is not to determine which situations, past or present, including the West Bank and Gaza, constitute genocide, but to develop policy recommendations that enable the United States to prevent future genocides from occurring," Cohen, along with co-chair Madeleine Albright, said in a statement issued Tuesday night.

The enemies of Israel will use his first quote as a source, not the second.

567 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:47:09am

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Link

568 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:48:30am

re: #533 coz

re: #519 1redthread

No idea. I'm at work , she called and said it won't spin?

/whatever that means

Have her give it two stout shots of Everclear and call us in the morning... ;)

re: #542 realwest

I'm well, thanks, and you?

re: #543 Peacekeeper

Heh. I don't think that would be statistically valid....

re: #545 Iron Fist

That means I'm moving up in the world!

569 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:48:37am

re: #566 Ben Hur

Of course a strong willed and principled person would've just said, "WTF are you talking about?"

570 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:48:54am

re: #562 realwest,

Hey, man! I'm still among the living. Can't complain, no one would listen :-)

How about yourself?

571 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:50:30am

re: #553 coz

I appreciate all the advice on the washer thing. I'll dig into it when I get home this evening.

For the love of Pete, please make sure you unplug the dogdanged thing first before fiddling with it, k?

572 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:51:29am

re: #527 realwest

Over my dead hair beams.

573 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:52:04am

US diplomat: PA forces have made progress in restoring order to Nablus

Palestinian security forces have made "some progress" in restoring order in the West Bank city of Nablus, which was long ruled by gangs, a US diplomat said after a tour Wednesday.

Gangs?

Wow, the US is really going to bat for Fatah.

This is PR.

We are supposed to be pacified before Annapolis that Fatah is making "progress," that their CIA training is "working."

It's all BS.

574 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:52:23am

re: #554 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the FBI and CIA can't bother with proper background checks that would have found that a Lebanese illegal alien applied for both - and got hired for both.

Then, she managed to get her hands on materials relating to Hizbullah.

That's not all. Her former employer is a fugitive believed to be in Lebanon and was involved with ICE officials in getting people into the US and fundraising for Hizbullah.

Oh, and her punishment for all this - losing her job at CIA, her citizenship is stripped (she wasn't a citizen to begin with) and a modest jail sentence.


Well, it isn't like she spied for Israel.

575 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:52:33am

re: #568 christheprofessor Also doing well, thanks! Unfortunately I'm gonna have to scoot in about 20 minutes cause of them damn chores I always seem to have to do!
Glad to hear you're doing well - must be all that Red Wine!

576 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:52:43am

re: #571 Miss Trixie

{Miss Trixie}

will do!

thanks

577 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:53:24am

re: #565 realwest

Mornin' Real. Quick post then back to bed -- the WLAN in the house isn't working well today. Surgery went fine, though I was pretty out of it. Percoset does strange things to the mind. Taking my first walk around of the day, but need to head back to bed for a while. Been running a fever, which I have to watch. Upside; cute nurse in the recovery room, and I'm now sporting a Brazilian.

Hope you and the other Lizards are doing well. Hopefully I'll be back tomorrow. In the meantime, keep chumming the waters of indignation.

578 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:53:58am

{writermom}

579 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:54:02am
580 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:54:15am

re: #570 Iron Fist Just about the same! Every day I wake up on the right side of the grass is a plus for me!

581 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:54:43am

re: #540 Peacekeeper

if you were a communist in world war 2, you had no problem getting a government job.

582 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:55:29am
583 JeremyR  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:55:46am

re: #561 The Other Les

Oh the dreaded dihydrogen Monoxide! The greenhouse gas responsible for 95% of global warming.

584 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:56:18am

Good morning from SW Chicagoland. I feel very sorry for those who live in the City of Chicago. Higher taxes always suck, espcially when they are used to fund hired truck schemes and family and friends programs.

That's on top of what Blagojevich wants for the state. He still wants a universal healthcare program for us. We can't afford this BS. And then, I feel sorry for Cook County residents. Todd Stroger (President of the Cook County Board) wants to raise even more taxes and fees. Thank goodness I live outside Cook County.

Anyway, my morning wasn't too bad. With the new tollway open, my commute is sooooooooooo much nicer. :-)

585 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:56:40am

re: #583 JeremyR

I hear if you breathe enough of it, you die.

586 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:56:43am

re: #578 coz

{COZZZZZZZZ}

587 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:57:06am

re: #577 Lucius Septimius Hey Lucius! Good to hear from you my friend! I wouldn't worry much about that fever; let the doc and nurse worry about it, you just get some rest!
As for "keep chumming the waters of indignation." I be on it, boss!
Seriously, I AM glad to hear from y'all and sure hope you get home in decent shape real soon!

588 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:57:44am

re: #583 JeremyR

re: #561 The Other Les

Oh the dreaded dihydrogen Monoxide! The greenhouse gas responsible for 95% of global warming.

Yep, that stuff kills many every year, and everyone's an addict.

589 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:57:51am

Anyone else here read John Bolton's interview in the Virginia edition of The Examiner free paper?

Mr. Bolton says some considered former UN secretary Kofi Annan a secular Pope. Mr. Bolton said he himself is a Lutheran.

Bolton said attending Yale was a good preparation for working in the State Department. (President Bush also has this "insight" into the deep bowels of our 1960s mentality dip corps)

www.examiner.com, Virginia edition of 11/14

590 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:58:12am
591 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:59:58am

PIMF to my #587 - Lucius is home already!
Shit, call the doc about that fever if it don't get better in about 8 hours or so - maybe they'll send that cute nurse over from the Recovery Room!

592 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:00:52am

Well, the Israeli knesset finally did something useful and would make Carl in Jerusalem happy (or at least breathe just a wee bit easier). They've approved a measure that would require a supermajority of members to vote on any disposition of Jerusalem. It would require 80 votes to change the status of Jerusalem.

593 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:02:56am

Another day another VOTE!

VOTE for COZ!

Home stretch people!

594 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:03:52am

re: #530 Spenser (with an S)

Hey, I have some of that kinda jewelry! :-) It wears just as pretty :-D

I worked with a lady that broke up with her LONG time boyfriend and decided to sell it all cheap just to make him mad! I bought a ring for $50 that appraised at over a thou-- along with a diamond heart pendant for $25!

re: #560{BabbaZee}

595 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:04:33am

Anyone here attend repulsive Northern Virginia democrat congressman Jim Moran's meeting on US/Iran policy Lee Hamilton & Lawrence Korb at the Alexandria VA, Masonic Temple last night?

Moran's the hater who blamed "neocons" and Lizards for President Bush's decision to take out Saddam Hussein "illegally." During the Clinton years he was supposedly a centrist democrat; now unhinged & rabid.

596 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:05:44am

re: #464 BabbaZee

re: #451 Carl in Jerusalem
RE: Zionists for Ron Paul
many "pro-Israel" types today

think that Israel is a racist, apartheid state, just like the left does

it's just that they are OK with that
and it makes them seem in opposition to the left
and it provides cover for their entryism in to legitimate right wing circles that do support Israel for biblical or moral reasons, not craven reasons of "racial nationalism"

Support of Israel supports their own "nationalism"
they figure this gives them a handy place to deport all their Jews to once they seize power - at which time they will then tacitly help the Jihad to drive all the Jews into the sea

I have seen coversations detailing cooperation between JDL supporters and segments of the White Power movement on Dutch WN discussion boards.

That's how sick this thing is.

I would not lump the JDL (now known as Kach or Kahane Chai in Israel) in with the neo-Nazis. I am curious as to where these 'conversations' you cite may be found.

597 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:05:55am

re: #593 coz Done did it already my friend! Do you know where you are in the standings?

598 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:06:35am

Good Wednesday morning Lizard Nation!

So Musharraf says he will step down as army chief by the end of the month... Hmmm, we shall see... I don't trust any of the folks in Pakistan, they are playing us...

Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2. Methinks it is time for a US Black Ops. operation... We need to make sure Hugo never becomes dictator... His people are going to pay for it and Venezuela will become Cuba...

599 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:07:27am

re: #583 JeremyR

re: #561 The Other Les

Oh the dreaded dihydrogen Monoxide! The greenhouse gas responsible for 95% of global warming.

"Senator Clinton, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a greenhouse gas which causes ninety-five percent of global warming, do you favor regulation of, or a ban, on it?"

600 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:07:55am

Glad to see that my loser governor for the moment, dropped his idea for giving Driver Licenses to illegals... I have no doubt he will try and pass something in cladestine fashion... However, it makes me happy to see how he has completely self destructed... And, of course, his legal woes will not be over...

601 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:08:19am

re: #592 lawhawk

Well, the Israeli knesset finally did something useful and would make Carl in Jerusalem happy (or at least breathe just a wee bit easier). They've approved a measure that would require a supermajority of members to vote on any disposition of Jerusalem. It would require 80 votes to change the status of Jerusalem.

I saw that.

Don't get your hopes up.

That law passed a first reading (if that - it may have been a preliminary reading - not clear in the article).

Laws in Israel have to pass three readings before they are adopted.

The government ignored it until now.

When it comes to third reading, they will make it a "no-confidence vote," which will force the coalition to vote it down.

That's why I haven't blogged it - I'm busy and I don't think it's that significant.

602 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:08:44am

re: #597 realwest

No real, they don't tell us the standings. All I can do is watch the top 5 artists list on the homepage. I was #2 on it the first week, now I aint on it at all! : (

603 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:09:34am

re: #596 Carl in Jerusalem

conversations on Stormfront in Europe


BBL

604 mad_scientist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:09:48am

Good morning dead threaders. How goes it today?

605 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:10:35am

re: #600 tfc3rid Good morning my friend! Um what legal woes does Spitzer have?

606 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:10:38am

The Piñata Presidency.

In the modern digital age, no mercy exists for those who are permanently in the public spotlight. And nobody is more in the public spotlight than whoever has the misfortune of sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office late in their second term. Nixon, Reagan and Clinton were all but eaten alive in their last years in office. Johnson, Bush I and Carter were too beaten up in their first terms to get a second term.

Bush has made his share of mistakes, but he is also gotten a number of things quite right. No one talks about the Afghan liberation, Libya's WMD halt and Somalia '06 much less his success in dismantling North Korea's nuclear program.

He's taken the dismal situation in Iraq and turned around, violence has all but stopped and the refugees are coming home. If the current momentum continues, we will finally have achieved victory. This is actually pretty impressive stuff. Hundreds of Jihad Johnny's are rotting away in Guantánamo Bay from the Afghan campaign of '01 or otherwise captured, and hopefully, we'll see a good number of the 9/11 implicated murderers put to death before January '09. Despite the horrific double whammy of a stock market downturn, and the uncertainties following the 9/11 attack, Bush's economic record going into this year has actually been pretty strong.

But even bulls must rest, and American politics only asks what have you done for me lately: the weak dollar, the subprime mortgage implosion, coupled with the aging bull market, and hundred dollar per barrel oil are bashing away at the piñata president's economy. In the war, the escape of Al Qaeda's leadership and the collapse of US policy in Pakistan are a toxic brew, a product of the failure to confront the real enemy: Islamic radicalization. Osama did get away and then there is Iran. The prospects of a nuclear armed Iran is already a major destabilizing influence in the world, allied with Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, and soon possibly Pakistan, the danger from the clerical regime grows daily, and the only man in the world can stop them is George W. Bush.

What we haven't seen much from Bush lately is strength. Of late, his presidency seems dispirited and anemic; he and his staff appear spiritually beaten down, and nowhere does his administration show the strength to sprint to the finish line. But that is precisely what he must do. Especially now. The single worst thing that could happen is for the US economy to fall into a severe recession, which coupled with spiraling oil prices could set off a worldwide economic downdraft that will greatly weaken the US just when we need to be at our strongest.

He should tell the Federal Reserve that if the Federal Reserve does not show a strong bias towards lowering interest rates to keep economic growth going forward, that he is prepared to replace the entire Federal Reserve Board. This is no time for weakness. Millions of jobs can be lost if the US economy tips into recession.

In foreign policy, the president needs to equally strong. He needs to trumpet the fact that he stood up to the Jihadis in Iraq and broke their backs. He needs to look into the camera and tell the ayatollahs that they don't dismantle their nuclear program immediately, we will do it for them. We cannot allow Pakistan to become aTaliban regime,; that will take some adroit diplomacy.

It is possible that the president, if he shrugs off the naysayers by being assertive and strong, next year, as he prepares for his last holiday season in the White House he will do so with a feeling of genuine accomplishment of a job well done of having gotten it all mostly right. But he is going to have to reach deep inside and find the resolve that turned Iraq around. From easing the US economy through some very choppy waters and stopping Iran, Bush must remember that unlike a piñata, presidents can hit back.

607 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:11:19am

re: #595 alegrias

did you need to be a freemason to attend?

608 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:11:20am

re: #603 BabbaZee

That find also went a long way for me as to explaining how Zionist Youngster can defend them as well

I wont post those links
and it is all hearsay , conversations between people , like ours here, and it could be total bullshit
but I will be keeping an alert eye out for more of it, believe me

Later!

609 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:11:45am

re: #608 BabbaZee

idiot
I meant that post to be to Carl

I am in a rush sorry

610 mad_scientist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:13:04am
Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2.

Wonder if the lefties will still love him? Think the answer to that is probably yes.........they seem to love brutal dictators.....

611 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:15:29am

Anybody seen ploome?

612 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:15:37am

re: #610 mad_scientist

Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2.

Wonder if the lefties will still love him? Think the answer to that is probably yes.........they seem to love brutal dictators.....

They still love Castro, and they loved Stalin.

613 realwest  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:16:05am

Well it's been grand as usual y'all but I gotta go do some chores now. Hope to catch up with you down the road.

HAVE A GREAT DAY Y'ALL!

614 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:17:26am

re: #601 Carl in Jerusalem

What if there were sufficient pressure on them to get it through to a third reading? Or is the political process so completely sclerotic and idiotic that they'll kill the measure before then?

OT:
The Pakistani Crucible continues to roil, and Bhutto's niece calls her aunt onto the carpet for cozying up with the Islamists and Musharraf. Savior, she isn't.

615 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:17:52am

good morning lizards! I'm a tad under the weather today ;(

alegrias, the Examiner is still sitting at the end of the driveway. I'll get it later to read the Bolton interview.

There's an article in today's Financial Times. I don't know if it's good news or bad, both or neither.

Anyhoo, China is not the economic juggernaut people of been thinking it is.

In a little-noticed mid-summer announcement, the Asian Development Bank presented official survey results indicating China’s economy is smaller and poorer than established estimates say. The announcement cited the first authoritative measure of China’s size using purchasing power parity methods. The results tell us that when the World Bank announces its expected PPP data revisions later this year, China’s economy will turn out to be 40 per cent smaller than previously stated.

40%? Yowza.

616 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:18:20am

re: #610 mad_scientist

Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2.

Wonder if the lefties will still love him? Think the answer to that is probably yes.........they seem to love brutal dictators.....

Tyrannophilia should be classified as a mental disease.

The problem with that will be the deliberate misdiagnosis by leftist mental health professionals of Lizards or other proliberty individuals as tyrannophilies.

617 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:18:57am

re: #612 Honorary Yooper

re: #610 mad_scientist

Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2.


Wonder if the lefties will still love him? Think the answer to that is probably yes.........they seem to love brutal dictators.....

They still love Castro, and they loved Stalin.

They love Hillary Stalinova.

618 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:19:34am

re: #610 mad_scientist

they loved Stalin. he killed countless millions.

619 christheprofessor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:19:55am

re: #615 wahabicorridor

Sounds like the Japanese economic juggernaut of the 80s...

620 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:20:15am

Lance!

/Hi-Five

621 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:21:07am

re: #605 realwest

re: #600 tfc3rid Good morning my friend! Um what legal woes does Spitzer have?

His little situation in trying to frame Joe Bruno... Lots of questions coming up in the frame of 'What did Spitzer know and when did he know it'... The NY Post, specifically, Frederick U. Dicker have done a GREAT job of reporting on this and digging for information... Looks like the governor has lied when he said that he has no knowledge of having his team investigate Joe Bruno.

622 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:21:47am

re: #618 LanceKates

re: #610 mad_scientist

they loved Stalin. he killed countless millions.

The bigger the bodycount, the more they love them.

623 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:22:28am

re: #612 Honorary Yooper

They have a blind spot for [T]hugo's slouching towards dictatorship and restrictions on personal freedoms. Amiri Baraka, the former poet laureate of NJ who sued the state over his position being eliminated, complained in a lawsuit (cert denied by the US Supreme Court) that losing his job was a restriction on his free speech - from Venezuela.

624 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:23:18am

re: #620 coz

hey coz. voted for you, of course.

625 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:23:55am

re: #622 The Other Les

and they hate it when you bring it up.

626 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:24:16am

re: #608 BabbaZee

re: #603 BabbaZee

That find also went a long way for me as to explaining how Zionist Youngster can defend them as well

I wont post those links
and it is all hearsay , conversations between people , like ours here, and it could be total bullshit
but I will be keeping an alert eye out for more of it, believe me

Later!

ZY can defend who? The JDL or the Dutch Nazis?

627 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:25:03am

re: #626 Carl in Jerusalem

the Dutch Nazis et al

628 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:25:52am

re: #614 lawhawk

re: #601 Carl in Jerusalem

What if there were sufficient pressure on them to get it through to a third reading? Or is the political process so completely sclerotic and idiotic that they'll kill the measure before then?

OT:
The Pakistani Crucible continues to roil, and Bhutto's niece calls her aunt onto the carpet for cozying up with the Islamists and Musharraf. Savior, she isn't.

Lawhawk,

It'll get to a third reading. But then the government will declare it a "vote of confidence." Since none of the coalition MK's want to lose their jobs they will vote against it or absent themselves from the chamber after making sure there are enough votes to defeat it. They are accountable to no one.

629 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:26:18am

re: #623 lawhawk

oh, it isn't a "blind" spot.

it is a habit.

Stalin, Castro, Che, Chavez, Mao...

630 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:26:25am

re: #621 tfc3rid

re: #605 realwest


re: #600 tfc3rid Good morning my friend! Um what legal woes does Spitzer have?

His little situation in trying to frame Joe Bruno... Lots of questions coming up in the frame of 'What did Spitzer know and when did he know it'... The NY Post, specifically, Frederick U. Dicker have done a GREAT job of reporting on this and digging for information... Looks like the governor has lied when he said that he has no knowledge of having his team investigate Joe Bruno.


I just do not understand how New Yorkers elected that lying SOB. When he was AG, I thought he should have been disbarred. He'd go on camera and accuse people of something before he got an indictment. I thought it was blatant extortion. He should be out there with Nifong.

Speaking of which, stuff still stinks at Duke. Stu Taylog, who co-authored "Until Proven Innocent" gave a speech there. The student newspaper refused to report it.

631 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:26:41am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers

HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.

He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country - has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.

Unbelievable!

632 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:27:06am
633 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:27:11am

re: #623 lawhawk

re: #612 Honorary Yooper

They have a blind spot for [T]hugo's slouching towards dictatorship and restrictions on personal freedoms. Amiri Baraka, the former poet laureate of NJ who sued the state over his position being eliminated, complained in a lawsuit (cert denied by the US Supreme Court) that losing his job was a restriction on his free speech - from Venezuela.

Hopefully he's gone to Venezuela permanently.

634 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:29:47am

re: #630 wahabicorridor

I was surprised that big business supported him, but it seems like he is a big bully who most likely blackmailed them for support...

In addition, tyhe NY State Republican Party is in shambles... There are no viable candidates statewide...

635 hayseed  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:30:50am

re: #631 aussiemagpie

how sad it's coming down to this stuff.

636 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:32:13am

re: #634 tfc3rid

Heh. don't get me started. *grin*

637 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:32:54am

re: #610 mad_scientist

Saw above that (T)hugo is going to pass his dictatorial reforms on December 2.

Wonder
if the lefties will still love him? Think the answer to that is
probably yes.........they seem to love brutal dictators.....


Another point that separates the Left from the Right. While the Left celebrates & loves "their" dictators - Castro, Chavez, Stalin, Mao - we on the right seldom celebrated the anti-Communist dictators of the Cold War & beyond. Some could give two cheers for Franco or Pinochet, but by & large we recognized that dealing with "friendly" dictators was a necessary evil in an imperfect world.

638 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:34:20am

Morning, beautiful sunrise in Seattle.

Real Seattle Liberal, parody songs by KVI.

639 phil flavin  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:35:26am

re: #631 aussiemagpie

Why does it seem that everyday I have to say, "Now that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of!"

640 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:36:23am

re: #634 tfc3rid

In addition, tyhe NY State Republican Party is in shambles... There are no viable candidates statewide...

Thank Pataki for that - what a maroon.

Did you hear that a former NY Congressman got picked up for DUI - for the 3rd time? Sweeney. He was a loser when he was here in Washington and he still is.

Keep your heads up lizards.

Today is the day on which France2 will supposedly show the unedited rushes of the episode to the court and, presumably, all other interested parties. Unless there is a fire in the warehouse, of course. Awfully flammable, film is and so are those new-fangled disks.

641 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:37:00am

re: #621 tfc3rid

A little Dopp will do you. Spitzer also tried to ram down the illegal alien drivers license plan, which caught Hillary in its web as well. That's a real bad place for Spitzer to be, which is why he's shelved the plan for now.

Albany County DA Soares is looking into criminality at the Governor's office relating to the Troopergate mess.

642 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:37:53am

re: #639 phil flavin

re: #631 aussiemagpie

Why does it seem that everyday I have to say, "Now that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of!"

It doesn't take brains to be a progressive/liberal/whatever.

643 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:37:56am

re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.

He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country - has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

What's next? A ban on the chocolate-covered snack cake Ho Ho's?

644 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:38:07am

re: #440 Gambini

Allow me to reply. As you may or may not be aware, there has been a huge debate on this blog about where to draw the lines regarding the Islamicizing of Europe. The overwhelming majority of the people on this blog do not support racial discrimination of any kind.

The fact is Europe is seeing the greatest population and demographic changes in 1600 years. Who the immigrants are and the character of European societies in the wake of these changes matter to us.

Most of us here believe that the Islamic portion of the immigration wave differs from the immigration from such places as Brazil, China and sub Saharan Africa by virtue of the desires of the immigrants. The difference: unlike the immigrants from everywhere else, many of the Islamic immigrants are Islamist fundamentalists intent on replacing democracy with sharia law. In addition unlike most immigrant who desire nothing more than full integration into their new European homes, the Islamic immigrants seek to live apart from the rest of society and are creating enclaves within Europe devoid of western rule of law.

Now let's talk about race. Almost without exception, the LGF community believes that western civilization is a racially neutral idea. We are not just troubled by those who attempt to paint the immigration of Europe in racial terms, we reject it utterly.

The recent Vlaams blok controversy here speaks worlds of where we are coming from and, yo may not have noticed it, but ever since Fjordman began allying with the more nebulous people we prefer to see on the fringe of European politics, that his support here has dramatically fallen. We appreciate European culture but do not believe that skin color and even religion is needed to carry it on. We also believe that modern Islamic society is antithetical to western democracy and European cultural existence and believe that only those Muslims who want to live under European law should be admitted to live in Europe.

That is not racial it is political and pro-democratic and I think I speak for 99% of LGF when I say this.

645 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:38:42am

re: #502 JammieWearingFool

I think the Republicans are trying to remind a complacent base that a
Hillary presidency is a reality. I'm not throwing in the towel, and I too find it hard to believe this nation is even considering a repeat of the 1990s (now with more socialism.) The Clinton machine will stop at nothing. They will lie and then lie about the lies and blame it all on us: The VRWC.

646 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:39:52am

re: #642 The Other Les

re: #639 phil flavin


re: #631 aussiemagpie

Why does it seem that everyday I have to say, "Now that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of!"


It doesn't take brains to be a progressive/liberal/whatever.

In fact, sometimes, brains can impede your progress as such.

647 phoenixgirl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:40:22am

re: #643 MandyManners

if they say "ho" it could be derogatory, if the say "ha" they are making fun of people.
/ I think they should stand there mute. Santa is very judgemental decidiing who's naughty and nice, what standards does he use?

648 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:41:46am

re: #647 phoenixgirl

and don't forget the worst crime of all to the lefties:

Santa is white. Therefore, according to the University of Delaware, he is racist.

649 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:41:49am

re: #643 MandyManners

re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment
firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country -
has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten
children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

What's next? A ban on the chocolate-covered snack cake Ho Ho's?

I'm shocked such a blatantly racist snack treat hasn't been banned already!

650 mad_scientist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:41:52am

re: #618 LanceKates

re: #610 mad_scientist

they loved Stalin. he killed countless millions.

I actually had a converstaion with someone (lefty) about Stalin a while back....tried to make such a point, but she would hear none of it. Saying that the #'s are BS, or that Communism is for the working man, while capitalism oppresses the poor man....blah blah blah......knew I was going to make no headway with such a brick wall of stupidity....but tried anyway.

651 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:42:27am

re: #643 MandyManners

re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country - has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

What's next? A ban on the chocolate-covered snack cake Ho Ho's?

Don Ho did not live to see this.

652 vxbush  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:42:32am

Well, I've survived two black days to finally have a good one today, complete with good news already. The caffeine is flowing, chocolate is on the schedule for later today, and I'm awaiting a meeting in about twenty minutes.

I hope other lizards are doing well today.

/raises her Coca Cola in salute

653 phoenixgirl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:43:45am

re: #651 The Other Les

he'd have to change his name to Don Ha

654 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:43:48am

A new tome from Frjordman......
My Farewell to Little Green Footballs
Mostly a rehash of old material. Still reading........

655 phil flavin  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:44:51am

What about Hoboken NJ?

656 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:46:57am

re: #644 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

And this is the racist crap they are spewing

A slow-motion, trickling genocide is being perpetrated by a considerable segment of indigenous blacks and imported browns against the Euro-American part of the population, while the political and cultural elites of the country are interested only in suppressing the relevant statistics on crime and criminality or on IQ differences and their link to achievement differences. All that when not otherwise engaged in promoting the Kwanzaa, issuing postal stamps celebrating the Ramadan, and keeping the southern border open at any cost of life, public treasure or social capital.
The farce of "affirmative action" that goes on even in the highest ranks of the government, the judiciary and academia displaces the more competent whites, particularly white males, with the less competent whose sole virtue is that they are not white males. This too is part of the self-inflicted disembowelment, for in the struggle for existence, which is what reality demands of individuals and nations alike, if you send a government official whose main qualification is that she is an Eskimo lesbian, to negotiate with a Chinese official whose main qualification is an IQ of 150 and a top score on the mandarin examination, the results of the encounter have been pre-determined.

It's not even logical. If whites are so much smarter, how did they manage to lose the race game? Was affirmative action the brainchild of all those stupid darkies and the really smart whites just got conned?

feh.

657 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:47:00am

re: #647 phoenixgirl

re: #643 MandyManners

if they say "ho" it could be derogatory, if the say "ha" they are making fun of people.
/ I think they should stand there mute. Santa is very judgemental decidiing who's naughty and nice, what standards does he use?

And, he's an oppressor of reindeer! And, elves!

658 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:47:28am

re: #650 mad_scientist

re: #618 LanceKates

re: #610 mad_scientist

they loved Stalin. he killed countless millions.

I actually had a converstaion with someone (lefty) about Stalin a while back....tried to make such a point, but she would hear none of it. Saying that the #'s are BS, or that Communism is for the working man, while capitalism oppresses the poor man....blah blah blah......knew I was going to make no headway with such a brick wall of stupidity....but tried anyway.

Co-worker of mine calls the cold war propaganda by the industrial military complex to keep us in fear, that the Soviets were peace loving and posed absolutely no threat to us, that everything in the USSR was peaches and cream. I ask him about the first hand accounts of Solzenitzen, Sharansky, and others. His explanation; CIA plants to discredited the Soviets.

I ceased banging my head on brick walls of willful ignorance.

659 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:48:23am

re: #649 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #643 MandyManners


re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment
firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country -
has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten
children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

What's next? A ban on the chocolate-covered snack cake Ho Ho's?

I'm shocked such a blatantly racist snack treat hasn't been banned already!

Don't tell Mayor Nagin.

660 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:49:03am

re: #632 BabbaZee

OH

Alegrias


And if you can stand to read it all


* * *
BabbaZee, thanks for that disgusting link. Steve Rosen is a friend and how he was run out of AIPAC by Caliphate-shilling Jim Moran is a schande.

Seems to me it reflects poorly on Northern Virginia democrats that virulently antisemitic DJhim Moran and his ilk--in whose district lies the Pentagon--are returned to office time after time by 2 to 1 margins. These liberals/progressives/DC-metropolitans just voted to make Alexandria a sanctuary city in which no questions will be asked when it comes to handouts or drivers licenses. But when it comes to "foreign" policy, you know who Moran blames!

Yes, Moran was once a Democratic Leadership Conference member, or whatever triangulating centrist democrats called themselves during the Clinton years.

661 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:49:38am

re: #651 The Other Les

re: #643 MandyManners


re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country - has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

What's next? A ban on the chocolate-covered snack cake Ho Ho's?

Don Ho did not live to see this.

He oppressed bubbles, especially those that were not "tiny."

662 vxbush  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:49:57am

re: #658 jcm

Wow. Just, wow. The conspiracy theory mindset is far too strong in this country.

663 antiislamist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:51:46am
664 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:52:51am

re: #654 Killgore Trout

A new tome from Frjordman......
My Farewell to Little Green Footballs
Mostly a rehash of old material. Still reading........


He needs to move on. He clearly has a forum elsewhere. People have their right to disagree with Charles, but these folks just cannot accept valid criticism.

665 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:53:13am

re: #660 alegrias


Given the shilling he did on behalf of Al-Jazeera the other day, it would probably be a good idea to see who/what contributed to his campaign.

666 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:53:32am

While already posted about Kos Goes To NewsBleed - does anyone really give a rats-ask or read the damned thing?

In fact, I'm thoroughly convinced that no issue of NewsBleed is ever released before being dated 5 years and the publication is intended solely for the waiting rooms of hospitals, doctor, dentist, etc., etc., offices where the purpose is to bore you to death while you wait.

Well, I guess I might feign some slight interest & take a peek at an issue in 2012 while waiting around, who-knows-where.

Ring-in the death of MSM.

667 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:53:41am

Did ya'll hear that KKKos going to be doing analysis for Newsweak?

668 vxbush  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:54:19am

re: #664 JammieWearingFool

I've come to believe that very few people can truly accept criticism. It requires more openness of mind and a willingness to drive the metaphorical knife deep into painful territory that most people simply don't seem to have.

669 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:54:35am

re: #662 vxbush

re: #658 jcm

Wow. Just, wow. The conspiracy theory mindset is far too strong in this country.

And the irony is that only in this country could someone with such a mindset prosper.

670 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:54:48am

re: #658 jcm

re: #650 mad_scientist

re: #618 LanceKates

re: #610 mad_scientist

they loved Stalin. he killed countless millions.

I actually had a converstaion with someone (lefty) about Stalin a while back....tried to make such a point, but she would hear none of it. Saying that the #'s are BS, or that Communism is for the working man, while capitalism oppresses the poor man....blah blah blah......knew I was going to make no headway with such a brick wall of stupidity....but tried anyway.

Co-worker of mine calls the cold war propaganda by the industrial military complex to keep us in fear, that the Soviets were peace loving and posed absolutely no threat to us, that everything in the USSR was peaches and cream. I ask him about the first hand accounts of Solzenitzen, Sharansky, and others. His explanation; CIA plants to discredited the Soviets.

I ceased banging my head on brick walls of willful ignorance.

Ayn Rand used to say that mental evasion was the root of all evil.

I have to agree.

671 vxbush  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:55:18am

re: #666 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

re: #667 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As if their agenda wasn't any more obvious.....

672 vxbush  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:56:01am

Ack, meeting time. Later, folks.

673 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:56:45am

re: #650 mad_scientist

If it makes you feel better, I saw an anarchist yesterday suggest that anarchy works, as evidenced by Somalia.

I believe my response was "Yes, when I think high quality of life, I think Somalia."

674 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:56:49am

re: #662 vxbush

re: #658 jcm

Wow. Just, wow. The conspiracy theory mindset is far too strong in this country.

His degree is in engineering, but works in marketing. I can understand to some extent someone coming out of Evergreen State College (St. Pancake's Al Mater) with a degree in Poly Sci have that warped world view. But ENGINEERING!?

675 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:57:12am

re: #667 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Did ya'll hear that KKKos going to be doing analysis for Newsweak?

Because they just can't pile it on deep enough or thick enough.

676 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:57:30am

re: #667 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Yes. He's crowing about it over at DKos.

Yeah, another major leftist is penning pieces at Newsweek. Whoopee.

Will anyone bother to remind the readers and editors that Kos is the same guy who said "Screw 'em" about the death of four Blackwater security guards by terrorists in Iraq?

Yeah, that's the kind of insight that Kos draws on. That and his impeccible record in supporting candidates. Still Ofer.

677 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:58:12am

re: #668 vxbush


I've come to believe that very few people can truly accept criticism. It requires more openness of mind and a willingness to drive the metaphorical knife deep into painful territory that most people simply don't seem to have.

You are correct. I would restate it as many people with very little self-knowledge. It hurts to do and we avoid hurt. Knowing and laughing at yourself doesn't take away your certainty as some fear, but it does lead to true humility.

678 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:59:19am

re: #658 jcm

to the left, mass murders like Stalin and Mao weren't the impediment to utopia, but instead the real threat was from people like McCarthy who suggested that soviet spies and soviet sympathizers shouldn't have jobs in government that give them access to classified material.

For that, McCarthy is branded as a evil man bent on witch hunts and stalin was referred to as "Uncle Joe"

679 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:59:34am

re: #665 wahabicorridor

re: #660 alegrias


Given the shilling he did on behalf of Al-Jazeera the other day, it would probably be a good idea to see who/what contributed to his campaign.


* * *
Wahabi, how did democrat Jim Moran of Virginia's 8th jihadist congressional district shill for AlJazeera, and are they now also part of The Washington Post/Newsweek/Kos family? How unsavory given Moran represents so many military folks in this region.

680 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 7:59:34am

re: #664 JammieWearingFool

I'm still reading and it's mostly a waste of time. Even the insults are recycled.

681 g3n3r1c  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:00:17am
682 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:00:49am

re: #670 The Other Les

My anti communism was locked in very earlier. We lived in Iran, and a family escaped from Russia into Iran. They found they way to our home. Jewish Grandma had survived the German Concentration Camps, then survived being rescued by the Russian army and living as Jew in Soviet Russia.

I heard first hand at my dinner table tales from the Gulag.

Some times I have to breath deep and restrain myself from literally beating sense into libtards.

683 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:01:05am

re: #658 jcm

I ceased banging my head on brick walls of willful ignorance.


Too bad we couldn't introduce her to Eva. I used to work with Eva. Great lady. A non-observant Jew from Kiev. Eva could have told your buddy all she needed to know about communism.

After she punched her in the face.

684 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:01:36am

I haven't read Newsweak in ages, Time either for that matter. This development does not entice me back either. Now if Charles was asked, or Michelle Malkin of someone similar, I'd at least read the articles on line, or borrow the copy in my doctor's waiting room.

re: #676 lawhawk

re: #667 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Yes. He's crowing about it over at DKos.

Yeah, another major leftist is penning pieces at Newsweek. Whoopee.

Will anyone bother to remind the readers and editors that Kos is the same guy who said "Screw 'em" about the death of four Blackwater security guards by terrorists in Iraq?

Yeah, that's the kind of insight that Kos draws on. That and his impeccible record in supporting candidates. Still Ofer.

685 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:02:31am

re: #680 Killgore Trout

Even the insults are recycled

Where does all that anger come from? Honestly, is it fear or stubbornness or wounded pride? Some said they saw it coming in him, but I guess I wasn't paying attention.

686 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:03:45am

re: #681 g3n3r1c

US Grand jury indictment of Usama Bin Laden (1998)


But, I thought that Bill Clinton didn't have enough to "hold" Bin Laden on when he was offered to us?

687 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:03:51am

re: #683 wahabicorridor

there are a few posters here at lgf that spent time in communist russia that would do more than punch them in the face.

688 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:03:58am

re: #679 alegrias

Wahabi, how did democrat Jim Moran of Virginia's 8th jihadist congressional district shill for AlJazeera,

He wrote a piece (NYT I think - Sunday?) that claimed AJ was unfairly being blocked from being carried on US cable. I think Charles may have run a thread on it.

689 DocDublU  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:03:59am

Democrats square off again tomorrow night in the first Presidential Debate since 'Hillary's Philly Follies".

From Camille Paglia at Salon.com, the 'lemmings' of the MSM have now stampeeded in favor of a Hillary meltdown and will sieze upon any waffling or triangulating in which she may engage tomorrow night. Here's the money quote:

That compulsive micromanagement, ultimately emanating from Hillary herself, has come back to haunt her in her dismaying inability to field complex unscripted questions in a public forum. The presidential sweepstakes are too harsh an arena for tenderfoot novices.

690 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:05:28am

re: #678 LanceKates

re: #658 jcm

to the left, mass murders like Stalin and Mao weren't the impediment to utopia, but instead the real threat was from people like McCarthy who suggested that soviet spies and soviet sympathizers shouldn't have jobs in government that give them access to classified material.

For that, McCarthy is branded as a evil man bent on witch hunts and stalin was referred to as "Uncle Joe"

Just look at Hilliary's ideology godfather Saul Alinsky, and some of her language, "we are going to take from you for the good of others." I get serious chills.

691 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:06:41am

re: #683 wahabicorridor

re: #658 jcm

I ceased banging my head on brick walls of willful ignorance.


Too bad we couldn't introduce her to Eva. I used to work with Eva. Great lady. A non-observant Jew from Kiev. Eva could have told your buddy all she needed to know about communism.

After she punched her in the face.

That would be sooooo satisfying!

692 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:06:47am

William Kristol talks about democrat dishonorable defeatism (on the cusp of victory in Iraq) perhaps costing dems the White House in 2008

(And how about that losing streak of 40 failed legislative attempts by Kos/Pelosi/Reid/Washpost/Newsweek to bring on defeat in Iraq? Shouldn't that be a front page story somewhere besides yesterday's Politico.com?

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

693 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:07:14am

re: #690 jcm

she is 100 % stone cold marxist
you wanna see some war monged?
wait till that crazy bitch has power


popping in and out BBL

694 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:07:26am

Oy this is funny.

Guess who is really behind the malicious anti-Islamic propaganda of the wife-beating-instruction Imam?

Da Jooooooooooooos.

695 DocDublU  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:08:42am

too harsh an arena for tenderfoot novices

i nominate this line for a rotating headline on LGF

696 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:08:45am

re: #689 DocDublU

And she got a gift when Spitzer decided to can the illegal alien drivers license plan last night. I have no doubt that the timing was to help Hillary out after she got hammered on the point in the last debate.

This shouldn't stop questions being asked of her and the other candidates on point, but she's got explaining to do - and tying herself up in knots in the process.

697 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:09:22am

Ok, this is just fucking hilarious.

Professor Flannery says Australia will have to introduce tight emission controls ...

"Four decades from now we have to be living in a carbon-free economy."

I don't know what field this guy is a professor in but I sure hope it ain't chemistry.

698 phoenixgirl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:09:32am

re: #657 MandyManners

and he's lazy cheapskate......he never reimburses me for the presents i buy!

699 yochanan  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:12:03am

a lot more commies in places that never had communism, the reality of communist oppression is a wake up call for anyone who ever lived under it.

we have a lizardette who grew up under communism just ask trigger girlie about it.

700 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:12:40am

re: #673 LanceKates

re: #650 mad_scientist

If it makes you feel better, I saw an anarchist yesterday suggest that anarchy works, as evidenced by Somalia.

I believe my response was "Yes, when I think high quality of life, I think Somalia."


Oh, come on Lance. You know you wished we could live in a country where you could strap a .50 machine gun turret atop your truck & no one would think twice about it!

701 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:12:42am

re: #690 jcm

yup... but we're evil for pointing such things out.

It was ok for Clinton to rape a woman, and to diddle his intern and lie about it in a congressional hearing.... but it was evil for ken starr to point it out.

702 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:13:18am

re: #692 alegrias


That's not the only thing that might cost them 2008. We're sitting here watching C-Span because their inability to pass any legislation is about to put around 400 people - clients of ours - around the country - out of work. No joke.

703 Shug  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:13:47am

re: #699 yochanan

a lot more commies in places that never had communism, the reality of communist oppression is a wake up call for anyone who ever lived under it.

we have a lizardette who grew up under communism just ask trigger girlie about it.

ask your typical moonbat youth about waiting in lines and their reference point is waiting in line to get into the new hot club.

ask somebody that lived under communism and their version of waiting in line is to collect their stale loaf of bread

704 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:14:23am

re: #700 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

not with gas prices hitting 5 bucks a gallon in california!

now, a prius with a .50 cal mounted to it.... hmmm....

heh.

705 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:14:32am

re: #696 lawhawk

The MSM will now be afraid to ask Hillary any solid questions.... That's too bad becausether eare a lot of people that I've spoken with don't know what she stands for but will vote for her because 'it would be nice to have a woman President'.

NOT an attitude to have during a war.

706 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:14:41am

re: #688 wahabicorridor

re: #679 alegrias


Wahabi, how did democrat Jim Moran of Virginia's 8th jihadist congressional district shill for AlJazeera,

He wrote a piece (NYT I think - Sunday?) that claimed AJ was unfairly being blocked from being carried on US cable. I think Charles may have run a thread on it.

* * *
Wahabi, sorry I missed Charles' thread on Moran's pro-islamist actions. So on top of blaming "neocons" & lizards for Iraq, Moran counts Al Jazeera as a constituent group whose interests he represents in Congress! On our tax dollars! What a literal carpet-bagger. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd joined John Kerry making nice visiting tyrants in Syria, Iran, etc. as part of his mission to undermine US policy.

707 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:15:42am

re: #697 wahabicorridor

Ok, this is just fucking hilarious.

Professor Flannery says Australia will have to introduce tight emission controls ...

"Four decades from now we have to be living in a carbon-free economy."

I don't know what field this guy is a professor in but I sure hope it ain't chemistry.

He missed every science class since 2nd grade.

708 storagemanager  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:21am
7.7 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Northern Chile

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

709 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:21am

re: #705 tfc3rid

re: #696 lawhawk

The MSM will now be afraid to ask Hillary any solid questions.... That's too bad becausether eare a lot of people that I've spoken with don't know what she stands for but will vote for her because 'it would be nice to have a woman President'.

NOT an attitude to have during a war.


I heard some talking head say something that made a kind of sense. They said that if Hilary wins it will be because she's a woman and if she loses it will be because she's a Clinton.

710 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:26am

re: #704 LanceKates

re: #700 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

not with gas prices hitting 5 bucks a gallon in california!

now, a prius with a .50 cal mounted to it.... hmmm....

heh.

The 2008 Toyota Prius "Technical": Smite your enemies while being eco-friendly.

711 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:30am

OT:
Major 7.7 mag. quake in Chile. Tsunami warnings have been issued, but major damage not expected in Hawaii.

712 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:54am
713 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:16:58am

re: #693 BabbaZee

re: #690 jcm

she is 100 % stone cold marxist
you wanna see some war monged?
wait till that crazy bitch has power


popping in and out BBL

Babba, you've got to quit holding back, it not good to bottle things up, tell us how you REALLY FEEL! ;-)

714 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:02am

re: #664 JammieWearingFool

re: #654 Killgore Trout

A new tome from Frjordman......
My Farewell to Little Green Footballs
Mostly a rehash of old material. Still reading........


He needs to move on. He clearly has a forum elsewhere. People have their right to disagree with Charles, but these folks just cannot accept valid criticism.

I have forced myself to read the whole thing and the problem is always the same: he talks about everything EXCEPT the MOUNTAIN of evidence published by Charles about the connections between some persons at the famous meeting and neonazism in Europe. He just doesn't discuss it and he talks in the same way ALL the neofascist sympathizers talked during the cold war: in that time they used the (REAL) commie danger, today they use the (REAL) islamofascist danger, but the point is always the same, they want to spread their violent ideas, their horror "philosophies" and the enemy is just an excuse.

But I notice that he has toned down a lot his use of "WHITE" (this and that and that else), a word that was a trademark of all his columns.
Evidently he is in bad faith and now he tries to play the good boy.


And all his talk about the VB and the other shady forces AS true forces in the fight against the jihadists is just empty talk: the neofascists in Europe are not a "force", they are just a liability, a problem, and I accuse them of being provoking agents, actually helping the enemy.

On the whole, typical neofascist doublespeak.

Garbage.

715 Shug  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:24am

reagan joke told to an audience in the soviet union.

A russian man is standing outside in the snow, waiting in the bread line.
After about 3 hours of waiting out in the cold, a man from the shop comes out and tells teh crowd that he's run out of bread.
"DAMNIT, says the man. I am sick of this communist state"
Just then a KGB officer comes up to the man and sticks the barrel of a gun in his face.

Fast forward one hour and the man is entering his home empty handed. He is greeted by his hungry and furious wife as to where in the Hell is the Bread.

Honey I have good news and bad news :

Bad news is, store run out of bread........

Good news is, KGB run out of bullits
The bad news

716 DocDublU  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:26am

re: #696 lawhawk

If Wolfy Blitzer has any cojones, he'll ask her about San Fran's plan to issue ID cards to all residents regardless of immigration status. Hillary's crew has already attempted to intimidate him into asking softball questions and warning him againt 'russerting' their gal Hill.

717 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:28am

re: #710 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Are you tired of seeing those rich people in hummers, wasting gas? Take them out!"

heh.

If I ever got a prius, I'd put a sticker on the back that says "I only bought this to get it out of the hands of a liberal."

718 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:45am

re: #709 wahabicorridor

That sounds about right to me...

719 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:17:45am

re: #697 wahabicorridor

Ok, this is just fucking hilarious.

Professor Flannery says Australia will have to introduce tight emission controls ...

"Four decades from now we have to be living in a carbon-free economy."

I don't know what field this guy is a professor in but I sure hope it ain't chemistry.

One could never underestimate the ignorance of a leftist.

For example:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@*********)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

Anyone who can mentally rewrite reality can believe anything.

720 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:19:02am

re: #715 Shug

lol... copy and pasted in an email and flying through the ether.

721 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:19:19am

Good morning everybody.

Lance, I got your email, thanks. I'll see if I cn get a scan of the image to send to you. It's not a big deal, just somehting that has grabbed my curiousity.

Somalia isn't the only "successful" case of anarchy, just think of Liberia, Haiti, Congo, Bosnia... every one of them a veritable paradise!

722 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:19:43am

re: #719 The Other Les

re: #697 wahabicorridor


Ok, this is just fucking hilarious.

Professor Flannery says Australia will have to introduce tight emission controls ...

"Four decades from now we have to be living in a carbon-free economy."


I don't know what field this guy is a professor in but I sure hope it ain't chemistry.

One could never underestimate the ignorance of a leftist.

For example:


From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@*********)
Subject: (none)

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."


Anyone who can mentally rewrite reality can believe anything.


That's about the funniest thing I've read in a long while. These libtards kill me!

723 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:20:19am

re: #708 storagemanager

Earthquake in Chile? Has Bush been blamed yet?

724 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:20:48am

re: #719 The Other Les

LOL.. muster gas?

like, you set it off and the army assembled?

is that how they get people out of their bunks in boot camp for the morning drills?

muster gas. I love it.

I think I'm going to have some muster on my burger I have for lunch.

725 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:21:59am

re: #721 Kenneth

hey, I'm curious enough that I don't mind helping at all. lol.

as for those other havens of wonderful living, you're so right! I'm going to buy my ticket to do the Anarchy Tour!

heh. Oh wait. I like living.

726 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:23:11am

re: #697 wahabicorridor,

Death to carbon-based life forms!

727 Shug  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:23:40am

re: #719 The Other Les

It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

I ate a lof cheese last night and got Muenster gas.

728 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:23:52am

re: #712 NJDhockeyfan

Iran's former nuclear negotiator charged with 'spying for Britain'


That might have something to do with this.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, is coming under increasing pressure to rein in Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, the president, over the radical stance he has taken on the country’s nuclear programme, analysts said on Tuesday.

The pressure is coming from Iran’s reformists and conservative pragmatists who have intensified their warnings about the threat they believe Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s intransigence over the nuclear programme poses to national security.

Khamenei urged to rein in president

Typical power struggle stuff.

729 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:23:56am

re: #714 Poitiers-Lepanto

But I notice that he has toned down a lot his use of "WHITE" (this and that and that else), a word that was a trademark of all his columns.


Yes he's toned it down quite a bit but I've come to recognize "Native European" as code for "white" when reading European racialists.
He also toned down his deportation rhetoric near the end. He's posted many times here on LGF about the need for wholesale ethnic cleansing of Europe. I don't think he's suddenly become more reasonable on the issue. He's just hiding his intentions better.

730 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:23:58am

re: #724 LanceKates

re: #719 The Other Les

LOL.. muster gas?

like, you set it off and the army assembled?

is that how they get people out of their bunks in boot camp for the morning drills?

muster gas. I love it.

I think I'm going to have some muster on my burger I have for lunch.

It causes spontaneous regimentation.

731 me  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:24:31am

Giuliani TV ad - awesome.

[YouTube link]

732 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:24:52am

Sabotage in time of War.

[snip]

Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization Resistance, Costa said.


[snip]

733 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:25:06am

re: #730 The Other Les

re: #724 LanceKates


re: #719 The Other Les

LOL.. muster gas?

like, you set it off and the army assembled?

is that how they get people out of their bunks in boot camp for the morning drills?

muster gas. I love it.

I think I'm going to have some muster on my burger I have for lunch.


It causes spontaneous regimentation.


That happens when I eat bell pepers... something fierce.

734 g3n3r1c  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:25:43am

File under sharia flowing freely in Europe

More and more banks in Luxembourg offering services based on Sharia
Economics 11/14/2007 3:00:00 PM

(With photo) BRUSSELS, Nov 14 (KUNA) -- The banking sector offering specialized services based on Islamic law (Sharia) to Muslims in Luxembourg, an haven for offshore banking, is growing.
Some banks and financial institutions in Luxembourg have already developed specialized investment products for Muslims which are in compliance with rules of the Sharia and generate no interest, according to a trade official.
"Its a growing sector. I think there are three or four banks to offer it but there is more and more coming because we see the opportunity in the Gulf, Jean-Claude Knebeler, director of foreign trade in the Luxembourg ministry of economic, told KUNA in an interview.

735 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:25:47am

re: #731 me

That's a great ad. Very positive message. Well done Rudy.

736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:26:00am

re: #719 The Other Les


One could never underestimate the ignorance of a leftist.

For example:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@*********)
Subject: (none)

"It's
hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant
fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made
from mustard...you retard."

Anyone who can mentally rewrite reality can believe anything.

Of course Saddam used mustard gas, because ketchup gas is so hard to get out of the bottle.

737 wahabicorridor  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:26:26am

re: #719 The Other Les

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

You mean that wasn't satire? OMG! LOL!

738 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:27:52am

re: #736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've found taking the cap off and using a knife to start the flow to help quite a bit.

Whether you use ketchup gas or mustard gas, or both together, some still prefer mayo gas on their hamburger gas.

739 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:28:00am

re: #719 The Other Les


My foreign born wife used to think that John Travolta's name was

Jontra Voltra.

But she's a hottie, speaks 4 languages, so it's ok.

740 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:28:31am

This sucks....
Sirius Acquires XM for $5 Billion

Shareholders approved a deal Tuesday to allow Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. to acquire its rival XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. for about $5 billion, but the largest hurdle has yet to come — regulatory approval in Washington.

I really hope the Feds squash the deal. I have XM and I love it but I want the choice of switching to another company if they piss me off.

741 storagemanager  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:28:39am
BAGHDAD, 13 November 2007 (IRIN) - Male gynaecologists are being targeted by Islamic extremists in Iraq as they are accused of invading the privacy of women. Women’s NGOs have raised concerns as there are few women gynaecologists in the country and their male counterparts are scared to continue working.

“Because of the extremists’ religious views, doctors are scared to continue with their work and the number of women gynaecologists is very low and cannot meet the demand,” said Mayada Zuhair, spokeswoman for the Women’ Rights Association (WRA).

“Extremists say that [male] doctors are not allowed to see the private parts of women and two male doctors were reportedly killed last week after leaving their clinics. A message was left near their bodies saying that was the end for any doctor who insists in invading the privacy of Muslim women,” Mayada added

[Link: www.irinnews.org...]

742 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:28:55am

re: #736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #719 The Other Les


One could never underestimate the ignorance of a leftist.

For example:

From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@*********)
Subject: (none)

"It's
hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant
fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made
from mustard...you retard."

Anyone who can mentally rewrite reality can believe anything.

Of course Saddam used mustard gas, because ketchup gas is so hard to get out of the bottle.

They need to use a squeeze bottle.

743 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:30:05am

re: #722 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

rotating title

"Its Muster Gas"

744 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:30:15am

OT:

Mary Jo White* on the Mukasey confirmation battle.

*Former federal prosecutor who nailed the 93 WTC bombers, and successfully prosecuted Islamic terrorists throughout her time in office and who has had some interesting things to say about the Gorelick wall on intel sharing. No nonsense law and order lawyer who has some pointed things to say about Congressional Democrats who hectored Mukasey over the issue of waterboarding.

745 Shug  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:30:18am

re: #741 storagemanager

The 7th century is alive and well

746 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:31:09am

re: #742 The Other Les

re: #736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


re: #719 The Other Les


One could never underestimate the ignorance of a leftist.

For example:


From: Jay Leet (JAYL80@*********)
Subject: (none)

"It's
hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant
fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made
from mustard...you retard."


Anyone who can mentally rewrite reality can believe anything.

Of course Saddam used mustard gas, because ketchup gas is so hard to get out of the bottle.


They need to use a squeeze bottle.


Grey Poupon was unavailable for comment.

747 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:31:29am

#697 wahabicorridor

Professor Flannery says Australia will have to introduce tight emission controls ...

"Four decades from now we have to be living in a carbon-free economy."

The "professor" should put his money where his mouth is and stop exhaling all that carbon dioxide.

748 mad_scientist  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:31:33am

re: #631 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Santas should be saying Ha Ha Ha istead of Ho Ho Ho, according to some idiot PC worshippers


HE is an unlikely revolutionary but this Christmas, Santa is a rebel with a claus.

He is having the last laugh on political correctness - and it's a great big fat belly laugh.

Santas across Sydney are rebelling against attempts to ban their traditional greeting of "ho, ho, ho" in favour of "ha, ha, ha".

Recruitment firm Westaff - which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country - has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.


Unbelievable!

OMG, that is just ridiculous......do these people realize how STUPID they look by pushing this PC crap.

749 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:31:48am

re: #634 tfc3rid

re: #630 wahabicorridor

I was surprised that big business supported him, but it seems like he is a big bully who most likely blackmailed them for support...

In addition, tyhe NY State Republican Party is in shambles... There are no viable candidates statewide...

Republican Michael Collins just won the election for Erie County Executive here in Buffalo!

750 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:32:29am

re: #729 Killgore Trout

I don't think he's suddenly become more reasonable on the issue. He's just hiding his intentions better.

I think so. As I said:

"Evidently he is in bad faith and now he tries to play the good boy."

I forgot to add that many who have not lived many years listening to the same kind of doublespeak will be tricked into believing he is in good faith.
I strongly advise everybody to become familiar with ALL the evidence published by Charles and particularly with the names involved in the "BRING A FLOWER TO AN SS TOMB" shame.

Like with the commies, only a thorough inspection of the neofascists' actions and omissions will reveal the truth behind the wormtonguish words.

751 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:34:38am

re: #680 Killgore Trout

re: #664 JammieWearingFool

I'm still reading and it's mostly a waste of time. Even the insults are recycled.

Which is very sad. The least he could do is come up with some new and improved insults.

752 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:34:56am

Ben Hur,

But she's a hottie, speaks 4 languages, so it's ok.

C'mon Ben, you're not fooling anyone. We all know your "real" wife is inflatable.

753 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:36:29am

re: #738 LanceKates

Whether you use ketchup gas or mustard gas, or both together, some still relishprefer mayo gas on their hamburger gas.

754 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:36:40am

The only thing worse than a mustard gas attack is an RPG or Rocket Propelled Garnish!

755 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:38:28am

You know, I'm not against SUV's. I own one. But it's occured to me many times as I'm riding home in my Civic that if folks would just slow down a bit - I dunno, say, under 80mph - we'd save so much fuel taht it woudl probably bring some relief at the pumps. But no,......people blow by me doing 85mph and seem to get angry that i'm "only" doing 73 or whatever......

I've often thought a sticker that read " SLOW DOWN - DEFEAT ISLAMIC FACISM " would be good, but it's quite a few steps to make that make sense, and I doubt most folks would even get it. whayyda think?


Maybe it'd be better if it was like..." Slow down - help lower gas prices "

supply and demand.........someone tell me if that wouldn't work, cause if not i'm gonna flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! :)

756 Shug  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:39:00am

re: #752 Dirk Diggler

Ben Hur,


But she's a hottie, speaks 4 languages, so it's ok.

C'mon Ben, you're not fooling anyone. We all know your "real" wife is inflatable.


but her directions for use are in 4 languages

757 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:39:36am

More PC Christmas maddness!

From the Peoples Republic of Oregon, Hillsboro is just outside of Portland.

Ike Maness, Hillsboro Education Association President, asked the Board in April to reconsider the practice of naming the two week break in December and January Christmas Break. He believed it was exclusionary and insulting to non-Christian students.

Director Kathy Huntington also was disappointed that Ike Maness was not at the meeting because she wanted to address his comment that if the practice of naming the break Christmas Break offends even one student, it should be changed.

758 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:41:05am

re: #755 Owl

You know, I'm not against SUV's. I own one. But it's occured to me many times as I'm riding home in my Civic that if folks would just slow down a bit - I dunno, say, under 80mph - we'd save so much fuel taht it woudl probably bring some relief at the pumps. But no,......people blow by me doing 85mph and seem to get angry that i'm "only" doing 73 or whatever......

I've often thought a sticker that read " SLOW DOWN - DEFEAT ISLAMIC FACISM " would be good, but it's quite a few steps to make that make sense, and I doubt most folks would even get it. whayyda think?


Maybe it'd be better if it was like..." Slow down - help lower gas prices "

supply and demand.........someone tell me if that wouldn't work, cause if not i'm gonna flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! :)

I find slowing down doesn't change my gas mileage at all. It doesn't really drop until I pass 80-85mph. In fact, I save more gas on my new commute route where I can do 70-75mph than I ever could on my old stop-and-go route where I might get to 45mph.

759 bulwrk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:41:31am

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

I was exposed to muster gas many times at unit formations after weekend liberties

nasty but not deadly

760 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:42:05am

re: #732 jcm

Sabotage in time of War.

[snip]


Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization Resistance, Costa said.

[snip]

bastards, I'm pretty sure thats my son in law coming home. He was due back this week. My daughter was probably one of the counter-protestors

761 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:42:29am

re: #737 wahabicorridor

re: #719 The Other Les

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

You mean that wasn't satire? OMG! LOL!

I think the process works like this:

Authority is based on knowledge.

In order to claim superior authority over ordinary citizens the leftist must claim to have superior knowledge.

The "superior knowledge" of the leftist must differ from the knowledge of ordinary citizens that is obtained from the commonly perceived reality.

But because the "superior knowledge" of the leftist must contradict the commonly perceived reality.the leftist ends up digging an increasingly deeper mental hole for himself.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

762 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:44:08am

re: #756 Shug

re: #752 Dirk Diggler


Ben Hur,

But she's a hottie, speaks 4 languages, so it's ok.

C'mon Ben, you're not fooling anyone. We all know your "real" wife is inflatable.

but her directions for use are in 4 languages

A guy returns his to the store where he bought it and when asked why he wanted to return it said, "I followed the instructions to insert Tab A into Slot B and she f*rted in my face!"

:P

763 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:44:57am

re: #761 The Other Les

re: #737 wahabicorridor


re: #719 The Other Les

"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."

You mean that wasn't satire? OMG! LOL!

I think the process works like this:

Authority is based on knowledge.

In order to claim superior authority over ordinary citizens the leftist must claim to have superior knowledge.

The "superior knowledge" of the leftist must differ from the knowledge of ordinary citizens that is obtained from the commonly perceived reality.

But because the "superior knowledge" of the leftist must contradict the commonly perceived reality.the leftist ends up digging an increasingly deeper mental hole for himself.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.


Your theory is rather gaseous

764 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:47:15am

re: #763 Eowyn2

re: #761 The Other Les

re: #737 wahabicorridor


re: #719 The Other Les


"It's hard to take you seriously when you call it "mustard gas" you ignorant fool. It's "Muster Gas". As if Saddam was killing people with gas made from mustard...you retard."


You mean that wasn't satire? OMG! LOL!


I think the process works like this: Authority is based on knowledge.

In order to claim superior authority over ordinary citizens the leftist must claim to have superior knowledge.

The "superior knowledge" of the leftist must differ from the knowledge of ordinary citizens that is obtained from the commonly perceived reality.

But because the "superior knowledge" of the leftist must contradict the commonly perceived reality.the leftist ends up digging an increasingly deeper mental hole for himself.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.


Your theory is rather gaseous

If we could only weaponize it...

765 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:48:14am

re: #752 Dirk Diggler

Ben Hur,


But she's a hottie, speaks 4 languages, so it's ok.

C'mon Ben, you're not fooling anyone. We all know your "real" wife is inflatable.

#2 wife!

766 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:48:31am

re: #760 Eowyn2

re: #732 jcm

Sabotage in time of War.

[snip]


Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization Resistance, Costa said.


[snip]

bastards, I'm pretty sure thats my son in law coming home. He was due back this week. My daughter was probably one of the counter-protestors

Bulk of the Protesters come from St. Pancakes home base, Evergreen State College, a PUBLICLY FUNDED COLLEGE!

767 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:48:38am
768 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:48:44am

re: #714 Poitiers-Lepanto

I left you a linky ^ ^ up thread..about an Italian priest.

How do you say 'big ones' in Italian. LOL.

769 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:50:56am

Gotta do stuff.

Bye!

770 bulwrk  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:52:42am

re: #766 jcm


Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization Resistance, Costa said.

these scumbags were attempting to derail a train which could cause injury or death,they should all be charged with felonies and sent to prison.

771 loppyd  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:53:57am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

I'm late to the party today.

What's the good word?

772 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:53:59am

Well, yeah stop and go as opposed to WFO I understand. But i thought perhaps doing 65-70 as opposed to 80-90 would surely use less fuel. maybe not you say? beats me....


and btw - i always thought it was " mustard " gas too. but hey - i'm from the south so....

doh.

773 alegrias  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:54:32am

Chemical Ali and his cousin Saddam Hussein murdered Kurdish villagers in Halabja 19 years ago with poison gas.

You know, I know, and the whole American people know this WMD atrocity was perpetrated by the former leader of Iraq.

It's sick that half our country (and democrats in Congress) conveniently "forgets" this genocidal fact about WMDs in Iraq.

774 Owl  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:54:52am

re: #771 loppyd

hmmm..." oggoliebooglie" work for ya? :) Actually, the good word is that it's about the usual time for new threads by the head honcho! :) mornin back atcha btw

775 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:57:29am

re: #766 jcm

I really have a problem with these pr*cks.

In middle America, the grade schools are platering the walls with pictures and stories about their family members who have served in the military. and those kids are PROUD

776 jcm  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:57:38am

re: #770 bulwrk

re: #766 jcm


Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization Resistance, Costa said.

these scumbags were attempting to derail a train which could cause injury or death,they should all be charged with felonies and sent to prison.

I'd be harder, movement of war material in time of war; sabotage, treason.

777 loppyd  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:57:45am

re: #732 jcm

Sabotage in time of War.

[snip]


Demonstrators also poured cement over railroad
tracks at the port but were unsuccessful in halting trains, but port
personnel removed the cement and no arrests were made for that part of
the protest, which was coordinated by Olympia Port Militarization
Resistance, Costa said.


[snip]

That stuff makes me crazy with rage.
God help them.

778 loppyd  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 8:59:30am

re: #77 Owl

re: #771 loppyd

hmmm..."
oggoliebooglie" work for ya? :) Actually, the good word is that it's
about the usual time for new threads by the head honcho! :) mornin back
atcha btw

That works just fine! I'll be heading out to lunch soon so I'll get my Rush fill then new threads. It's a beautiful thing I tells ya. :~)

779 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:03:42am

Ok, I think I'm going to lunch. Anyone want me to get them something? heh.

780 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:18:55am

re: #779 LanceKates

I got a hankerin' for some fried chicken...

781 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:28:17am

re: #780 coz
{cozzie}
You got Popeye's up there?

782 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:34:25am

{mom}!

nope, no Popeye's. Nearest KFC is 1/2 hr.

783 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:37:54am

re: #782 coz

I feel your pain...
:-(
I've got a Smart One (frozen dinner) in the microwave now. It's not chicken, either.

784 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 9:39:30am

Maybe it's just a southern thing, but we have Popeye's, KFC, Church's, plus at least a half dozen convenience stores that sell fried chicken.

785 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:15:21am

Wow. The DDT is really, well, dead.

786 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:18:04am

1redthread! I've been checking periodically, but yeah, it's pretty dead. Guess everybody went to lunch at the same time!

787 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:18:17am

Yay, back I am.

788 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:27:02am

Has this been a freaky week for anyone else?

789 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:27:32am

re: #787 LanceKates

Yay, back I am.

Sounds like Dr. Seuss.

790 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:28:21am

re: #788 1redthread

Has this been a freaky week for anyone else?

Yes and next week will really be weird.

791 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:29:42am

re: #790 redstateredneck

Why for you?

792 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:35:11am

re: #791 1redthread

I just feel discombobulated, you know? I had a doctor's appointment one day and then yesterday our DSL line went down all day so work has just been weird. Then next week will only be three days. I get easily confused about what day it is when I'm out of my routine schedule!

793 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:40:58am

re: #789 redstateredneck

Back I am, yes I am back!
not in a box, nor in a sack!

794 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:42:43am

re: #792 redstateredneck

I know what you're talking about.

For me it's been little frustrations and worries. It's like all the little things that annoy me decided to pop up in one week.

795 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:45:00am

re: #793 LanceKates

re: #789 redstateredneck

Back I am, yes I am back!
not in a box, nor in a sack!

What'd you have for lunch?
Green eggs & ham or 1 fish 2 fish red fish blue fish?

796 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:46:12am

re: #794 1redthread

re: #792 redstateredneck

I know what you're talking about.

For me it's been little frustrations and worries. It's like all the little things that annoy me decided to pop up in one week.

Oh, I already had that. It's called menopause.

797 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:47:10am

re: #795 redstateredneck

Left foot, left foot, left foot, RIGHT!

re: #796 redstateredneck

NOT there yet.

798 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:47:41am

re: #788 1redthread

Has this been a freaky week for anyone else?

Every week is freaky for me.

799 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:49:14am

re: #792 redstateredneck

I just feel discombobulated, you know?

That is my natural state of being.

800 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:49:54am

Seriously, those Dr. Seuss books taught my younger daughter to read.

801 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:51:13am

re: #800 redstateredneck

That's what they were meant to do.

I think I have most of them memorized.

802 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:52:52am

re: #797 1redthread

NOT there yet.


It's like PMS that never goes away.
>:-[

803 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:53:58am

re: #801 1redthread

re: #800 redstateredneck

That's what they were meant to do.

I think I have most of them memorized.

I used to have Good Night Moon memorized, I read it aloud so many times!

804 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:55:02am

I need chocolate.

805 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:57:14am

re: #795 redstateredneck

soylent green.

806 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 10:59:54am

re: #805 LanceKates

See, I was right. Feet.

807 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:01:24am

re: #805 LanceKates

re: #795 redstateredneck

soylent green.


Put any muster on it?

808 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:04:14am

This punk is a poster over at the same site that hosts my blog.

and he's from my home state. I should talk to my cousin to see if he knows him.

809 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:08:09am

re: #798 coz

re: #788 1redthread

Has this been a freaky week for anyone else?

Every week is freaky for me.

My brothah from anothah mothah!

/oh... y'all meant bad freaky.

810 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:08:11am

re: #808 LanceKates

It doesn't actually come out and say what was so bad there.

811 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:08:38am

re: #808 LanceKates

A writer by nature, Justin will gladly write anything he can to help the cause.
Yeah, I'll bet.

812 coz  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:09:18am

m,

heya, sistah!

813 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:09:32am

{m}!
What up, girl?

814 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:09:33am

re: #811 redstateredneck

Gotta get him in touch with the New Republic.

815 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:10:06am

re: #810 1redthread

well, in his post, apparently we made things worse because things were less violent under saddam, 'as long as they didn't say anything bad about him.'

and that's ok.

816 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:12:05am

re: #811 redstateredneck

yup. here's the thread where I'm confronting him.

817 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:13:12am

{Redstate}! Not much sunshine. Whattup witchoo?

I know it isn't much help outside of NC (well maybe, who knows) but...

Help Find Kyle

(a friend of a friend's friend)

:(

818 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:13:39am

re: #814 1redthread

heh. I asked him about Jessie "Macbeth"

hasn't answered yet.

Jessie is also (or at least was) a part of that same IVAW group.

819 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:14:21am

re: #816 LanceKates

"All it takes for evil to flourish in the world is for good men to sit around and do nothing; let's do something."

He likes to say that, doesn't he? The boy kind of misses the point.

820 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:14:46am

here's some info about Jessie "Macbeth" in case you don't remember this nut.

821 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:15:58am

re: #819 1redthread

he personifies the point.... he sits there and whines about how much more dangerous it is now that we've DONE something....

because when we were doing something, and people only died if they said something against Saddam, it was MUCH safer.....

pfft...

reminds me of the USSR style of life. Peace due to fear of speaking isn't peace.

Peace isn't a virtue if you achieve it by burying your head in the sand.

822 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:18:05am

here's a quote of mine:

Peace is not a virtue if it comes by buring your head in the sand.
War is not a vice if it is fought to stop evil and defend the innocent.

823 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:18:16am

re: #821 LanceKates

Sanctimonious priss.

He's all puffed up about getting through to why a soldier that's proud of his service thinks the way he does, but gets all sanctimonious about why he thinks the way he does.

75% of humanity are retards.

824 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:18:19am

burying.

825 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:18:59am

re: #823 1redthread

and too many of them vote.

*grin*

826 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:21:32am

I'm actually kind of proud of this line, as typing it made me shudder and laugh at the same time (the italicized part is quoting his post):

lancekates, Saddam included the religious overtones in order to unite the country. When the majority of the country is Shia and they are the oppressed, it is easy to want to rise up and do something. However, if you can create a national and religiously unifying identity by including something all factions can look to as their own on the flag, you can quell dissent.

Saddam quelled dissent by killing the dissenters. We elect them to congress.

827 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:21:52am

re: #825 LanceKates

My theory goes like this: the uneducated retards vote the way the educated retards tell them to.

828 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:23:48am

re: #827 1redthread

meanwhile, the communists and socialists rub their hands and grin evilly.

829 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:25:18am

re: #817 m

Sad story. I can pray.

830 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:30:12am

re: #826 LanceKates

You should be proud. I love it.

831 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:34:31am

re: #830 1redthread

yeah, each day I am becomming a bit more like a certain female columnist who can't be named, when it comes to my shortness with the left.

832 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:36:30am

re: #831 LanceKates

what's the term? boliviating blowhards?

833 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:37:17am

heh. gotta work. brb

834 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:39:00am

re: #832 1redthread

heh. close enough for me. *grin*

I'm getting into the mode of referring to them as members of a political movement that have supported every american Enemy since the end of world war 2, starting with FDR and the soviets.

835 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:39:41am

re: #831 LanceKates

re: #830 1redthread

yeah, each day I am becomming a bit more like a certain female columnist who can't be named, when it comes to my shortness with the left.

Lance is the male version of Ann Coulter? ? ?

836 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:41:37am

Y'all, remember that the "r" word is offensive to a lot of LGF posters.

837 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:41:39am

ha! redthread used my 'heh'

she owes me a dime.

i'll pay for postage.

(Waitaminute! I lose on that deal!)

838 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:42:37am

re: #835 redstateredneck

SSSSHHHHHH.....

lol... ok, maybe.

heck, it was monday that I was having to defend McCarthy against a Lizard, so maybe so! lol.

839 1redthread  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:47:57am

re: #836 redstateredneck

I apologize.

re: #837 LanceKates

It's viral.

840 m  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:49:30am

re: #829 redstateredneck

re: #817 m

Sad story. I can pray.

Thank you. That's what I've been doing.

841 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:49:59am

re: #839 1redthread

It's okay.

Lance,
I didn't read the whole thing, but did you challenge him on his claim of a million Iraqis killed since the war started?

842 LanceKates  Wed, Nov 14, 2007 11:55:09am

re: #841 redstateredneck

yup