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Threatening Dr. Sanity

Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 8:34:52 am PST

It’s a complete meltdown. Gates of Vienna are threatening Dr. Sanity, and also claiming that Vlaams Belang leader Filip DeWinter should sue me for defamation—“or worse:” Dr. Sanity: MY RESPONSE TO BLACKMAIL THREATS.

Please note that contrary to their claims, “Dymphna” and “Baron Bodissey” were never banned from LGF. In her email to Dr. Sanity, Dymphna is also incorrect about the “SF Chronicle sneaky comment trick” at LGF; she claims it is still operative at LGF, but in truth it was simply a proof of concept, was disabled after one day of testing, and I announced every step with front page posts.

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#1 swampscott 11/30/07 8:38:15 am 0

Oh Paleeese! You go Charles!

#2 Sharmuta 11/30/07 8:38:30 am 1
It was clearly a private conversation and was not meant to be public. But there was nothing said in that conversation that I am ashamed of or embarassed by.

Nor should you be, Doctor! Stand strong!

#3 coquimbojoe 11/30/07 8:39:21 am 1

White people should sue DeWinter for defamation. Maybe Charles should sue.... Hell, maybe I will sue....

#4 Sharmuta 11/30/07 8:41:12 am 0
And now they seem to be set on completely alienating both me and Siggy if we do not fall into line and agree with, as well as apologize....or else.

How sad. But with blackmail, caving in means the bully wins twice. They get you to back down for one, and know they can do it again and again for two. Stand strong, Doctor.

#5 WriterMom 11/30/07 8:42:14 am 0

Charles, please note that you are also being accused of maintaining-and not just testing-the sneaky SF Chronicle comment deletion trick.

#6 funkyfantom 11/30/07 8:42:24 am 0

Each side gets a mousepad and keyboard, a second, and two posts
at twenty paces.

#7 JammieWearingFool 11/30/07 8:42:50 am 6

These folks need to quit while they're behind.

#8 lawhawk 11/30/07 8:43:20 am 8

Truth and facts are a defense to defamation. They have no case.

You're right Charles, they are in a meltdown mode over there. I really don't get it.

#9 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:44:22 am 0

GTFOH~

#10 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:44:48 am 1

Charles is a tool of the belgians. Thats a new one

#11 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 8:45:18 am 0

I had seen the idea of suing Charles for defamation brought up in the comments sections at GoV a few weeks ago. I never thought they'd take it seriously and get litigious about this. I was wrong.

#12 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:45:27 am 0

I am now filing this entire matter under mockery.

#13 mean Gene 11/30/07 8:45:52 am 2

Reading comprehension can actually be affected by hatred.
I've seen it before.
Just keep telling the truth, Charles, someday they may read it with a cooler frame of mind.

#14 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:46:16 am 11

Now is Dewinter of their discontent!

#15 pat 11/30/07 8:46:19 am 0

Dr Sanity is one of my favorites. An intelligent response would have gone over much better than CAIR antics.

#16 storagemanager 11/30/07 8:46:31 am 1

Meldown elsewhere too...these people have lost thier minds.

#17 pat 11/30/07 8:47:16 am 5

Babba,
Hope this doesn't Rune their day.

#18 29Victor 11/30/07 8:47:32 am 0

OT and probably reported elsewhere, but realclearpolitics.com has Obama ahead of Hillary by .4 in Iowa.

#19 BenZacharia 11/30/07 8:47:37 am 0

VB & GoV-"Making White Europe safe, one cause & one race at time. Hail Wotan!."

DD & AS-"Hmm, sounds like a good moto."

#20 ParanoidPyro 11/30/07 8:47:40 am 4

I have done my best to stay out of this entire situation (my first comment here on the GOV vs. LGF over VB issue), but this is ridiculous. Threatening people? Really? Telling someone in Europe to sue an American over a blog?

Desperation is not a pretty color on anyone, and the hint of it always makes your side of an argument seem weak. Just my two cents

/Contacting a lawyer just in case...

#21 Spiny Norman 11/30/07 8:47:40 am 0

re: #5 WriterMom

Charles, please note that you are also being accused of maintaining-and not just testing-the sneaky SF Chronicle comment deletion trick.

That would be easy enough for them to prove, if it were true.

But they won't, because it's not.

How is it "defamation" to accuse someone of being a "White Power!" racist when they demonstrate themselves to be so in full view of the public?

#22 cookielady 11/30/07 8:47:43 am 1

Already wwaaaaayyy sick of the blog wars. Those who are attacking are anti-truth when it is irritating or embarassing.

Truth is. Facts are. Reality is reality.

Deal with it.

buncha dopes...

#23 Sharmuta 11/30/07 8:47:46 am 5

"dymphna" says:

Ironically, they hold the same political principles you do: smaller government,lower taxes, local rule, and a requirement for assimilation for immigrants so that they learn the language and the culture of their new country and become citizens.

Somehow, "dymphna", I don't think the Doctor believes in a "white America".

#24 storagemanager 11/30/07 8:48:00 am 0

I really should preview.

#25 insanity police 11/30/07 8:48:08 am 1

I get it. Vienna is not the country, its an insane asylum. Close the gates, and keep the inmates inside.

#26 Dirk Diggler 11/30/07 8:48:27 am 0

Babbazee,

Now is Dewinter of their discontent!

(Groans) Get out.

#27 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 8:48:32 am 5
This is who Charles Johnson is attacking. It’s shameful. If Dewinter cared, he would be within his rights to sue Charles for defamation...at the very least.


At the very least? What stronger action would be within his rights? That's a very spooky statement.

#28 wahabicorridor 11/30/07 8:48:52 am 0
WHAT THE FUCK?!
#29 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:48:54 am 1

ooga chakka chakka chakka ooga chakka chakka chakka

it's all about feelings
And Swedes singing phonetically!

#30 Venezuela lover 11/30/07 8:49:43 am 0

Send them to D.C. We have over 115 pages of attorneys listed in the phone book. They are all looking for targets to sue. It's a secret defense strategy to protect against dangers to the American way of life.

Charles, count on me to chip in if you need a legal defense fund.

#31 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:49:59 am 0

re: #17 pat

lol
They can sue me...
I have exactly $3.98, four Romanian stamps, a peso and two old subway tokens.

#32 BenZacharia 11/30/07 8:50:10 am 1

re: #25 insanity police

I get it. Vienna is not the country, its an insane asylum. Close the gates, and keep the inmates inside.

Quite. 70-80% of SS officers were Austrians, as well as a certain corporal.

#33 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:50:31 am 0

re: #26 Dirk Diggler

NO!
lol

#34 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:50:35 am 0

re: #31 BabbaZee

I call subway tokens

#35 Owl 11/30/07 8:50:51 am 2

I get it. They've been exposed. First, they tried to hide it - deny it - and now they are just nuttin up cause they know there's nothing they can do since CJ's light has shinned upon them.

#36 Poitiers-Lepanto 11/30/07 8:51:16 am 2

wow
There are some really nasty sentences in those emails.

These guys have really lost their minds.
I wonder HOW BIG was the plan, how deep.

#37 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:51:30 am 0

re: #34 mayor of imaginationland

you got 'em lol

#38 kulthur 11/30/07 8:51:48 am 6

Defamation? That requires that what you said/published was untrue. I'd love to watch the post-discovery client-lawyer conference in which the plaintiff's lawyer advises, "Um... well you are in bed with what could reasonably be construed as fascist, white power groups. I'm not sure that I can continue this case and avoid sanctions for bringing a suit without merit, folks. And besides - why the hell are you associating with these people anyway?"

#39 Peacekeeper 11/30/07 8:51:49 am 0

BIG JOHNSON IS RIPPING US OFF!

#40 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:51:50 am 0

re: #35 Owl

The question remains, is it nuttin up or just a display of their true colors?

#41 BenZacharia 11/30/07 8:52:10 am 0

re: #31 BabbaZee

re: #17 pat

lol
They can sue me...
I have exactly $3.98, four Romanian stamps, a peso and two old subway tokens.

Rich bitch. Can I bum a quarter? Make that the peso, Mexican lint is worth more than US lint.

#42 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 8:52:13 am 0
Do you realize how Charles endangered Bat Y’eor by permitting her real name to be revealed on his site? The New York Times beat him to it, but that’s the company he keeps.


Charles is a tool of CAIR and NYT!

#43 Iron Fist 11/30/07 8:52:35 am 6

As I have said before, I think it is very telling that they would throw away established friendships and alliances in the name of dubious new ones.

#44 Sharmuta 11/30/07 8:53:19 am 1
I also spoke to Siggy about Dymphna's emotional state during the podcast. I believe I said that her voice "quivered" --with anger or outrage or some other intense emotion. I wondered if she was afraid of something.

I remember this part of the conversation, and I'd have to say yes- she' afraid. She's afraid that everything her and "baron" worked for is going to be lost. And it's a well founded fear, because they screwed up. They are not able to withstand the truth. Instead, they continue clinging to their meme- which only propagates the insanity, fear and loss of influence I'm sure they're beginning to feel. They've made quite a hole for themselves, and I think panic might be setting in as they're realize just how deep they've dug themselves.

#45 Spiny Norman 11/30/07 8:53:36 am 7

re: #27 Killgore Trout

This is who Charles Johnson is attacking. It’s shameful. If Dewinter cared, he would be within his rights to sue Charles for defamation...at the very least.
At the very least? What stronger action would be within his rights? That's a very spooky statement.

Funny thing is, David Irving's supporters urged him to sue Deborah Lipstadt, so he did... and lost in humiliating fashion.

Dewinter would be a colossal fool if he went that route.

#46 loppyd 11/30/07 8:54:00 am 1

The lady doth protest too much....

#47 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 8:54:13 am 0
Andrew Bostom is disgusted. He was the one who sent me the hat tip on the American Thinker essay suggesting that Charles had been taken in by Belgian intel psyops. He probably was: he had information up and ready to go instantly. Charles was prepped and prepared.

....and Belgian psyops!

#48 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:54:24 am 2

re: #44 Sharmuta

Mein Fuhrer, zey have found us! To the cyanide!

#49 Owl 11/30/07 8:54:44 am 0

re: #40 mayor of imaginationland

re: #35 Owl

The question remains, is it nuttin up or just a display of their true colors?


From readin' up on 'em, I thought nuttin' up WAS their true colors. :)

#50 Peacekeeper 11/30/07 8:54:50 am 0

It's not goodbye. Heil be seeing you in all the familiar places...

#51 Spiny Norman 11/30/07 8:54:51 am 3

re: #26 Dirk Diggler

Babbazee,
Now is Dewinter of their discontent!
(Groans) Get out.

Hey! Charles himself used that as a headline.

=^D

#52 loppyd 11/30/07 8:55:29 am 0

...

#53 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:55:30 am 0

re: #49 Owl

You do have a point.

#54 loppyd 11/30/07 8:56:14 am 0

re: #52 loppyd

Sorry about that.

Phone rang.

#55 storagemanager 11/30/07 8:56:16 am 5
I was wrong. Apparently it is not possible to be a friend to Dymphna if you disagree with her.
#56 insanity police 11/30/07 8:56:16 am 0

re: #32 BenZacharia

That does explain a lot.

#58 Honorary Yooper 11/30/07 8:56:38 am 0

re: #31 BabbaZee

re: #17 pat

lol
They can sue me...
I have exactly $3.98, four Romanian stamps, a peso and two old subway tokens.

I'll take the $3.98. :-D

They can have my debt, if they want to sue.

#59 tfc3rid 11/30/07 8:56:39 am 0

This is just way too out of hand...

Any threats like that are just way too much...

#60 Owl 11/30/07 8:56:53 am 0

yeah! me! ;)


OT - hey norman, i've often wondered - why are you "spiney" ?

#61 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 8:57:05 am 2

re: #44 Sharmuta

They've made quite a hole for themselves, and I think panic might be setting in as they're realize just how deep they've dug themselves.


I agree. They've been panicked for a few weeks now. It only seems to be getting worse.

#62 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:57:07 am 0

re: #50 Peacekeeper

lol

#63 mama winger 11/30/07 8:57:08 am 5

re: #31 BabbaZee

re: #17 pat

lol
They can sue me...
I have exactly $3.98, four Romanian stamps, a peso and two old subway tokens.

Have you fully disclosed this to the IRS?

Hillary says you have too much, and she wants it now.

#64 coquimbojoe 11/30/07 8:57:10 am 0

re: #7 JammieWearingFool

These folks need to quit while they're behind.

Zactly. I have stopped reading them because when you associate with Nazi's everything you do becomes tainted. I would hate to bring up a point and have someone say "didn't that come from someone who sides with Naxis". Apologies to BabbZee, but Nazis ruin everything.

(Loved the Movie Babba)

#65 Spiny Norman 11/30/07 8:57:19 am 0

re: #47 Killgore Trout

Andrew Bostom is disgusted. He was the one who sent me the hat tip on the American Thinker essay suggesting that Charles had been taken in by Belgian intel psyops. He probably was: he had information up and ready to go instantly. Charles was prepped and prepared.
....and Belgian psyops!

Of course, we ALL know who's REALLY behind this...

#66 Poitiers-Lepanto 11/30/07 8:57:44 am 5

I am sorry but I have to post this from the crazy emails:

Charles had been taken in by Belgian intel psyops. He probably was: he had information up and ready to go instantly. Charles was prepped and prepared

This is a heck of a thing to WRITE.

Talk about libel...

#67 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:57:48 am 0

re: #55 storagemanager

I was wrong. Apparently it is not possible to be a friend to Dymphna if you disagree with her.

there's lots of that going around.

#68 Peacekeeper 11/30/07 8:57:50 am 0
#69 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:58:17 am 0

re: #64 coquimbojoe

thanks

#70 Dirk Diggler 11/30/07 8:58:24 am 0

loppyd,

...

An incredibly profound observation, lopps.

#71 mama winger 11/30/07 8:58:32 am 0

re: #67 BabbaZee

re: #55 storagemanager

I was wrong. Apparently it is not possible to be a friend to Dymphna if you disagree with her.

there's lots of that going around.

yup

#72 mayor of imaginationland 11/30/07 8:58:47 am 0

re: #65 Spiny Norman

re: #47 Killgore Trout


Andrew Bostom is disgusted. He was the one who sent me the hat tip on the American Thinker essay suggesting that Charles had been taken in by Belgian intel psyops. He probably was: he had information up and ready to go instantly. Charles was prepped and prepared.
....and Belgian psyops!

Of course, we ALL know who's REALLY behind this...

KARL ROVE and the Bushitler Cabal!
(goes off in corner mumbling about beans)

#73 storagemanager 11/30/07 8:59:07 am 0
Robert Spencer is carefully silent about all this because...well, because he hasgood reason to be careful. We all have to make a living.

He made his case.

#74 BabbaZee 11/30/07 8:59:12 am 0

re: #63 mama winger

Hiya mama, how's it hangin'?

#75 Peacekeeper 11/30/07 8:59:19 am 0

Babba! Always Sig Heiling right in Der Fuhrer's Face.

#76 Sharmuta 11/30/07 8:59:20 am 2

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I read at gov how despite the LGF hate threads being full of comments, their traffic has not increased significantly. That's very telling if you ask me. They are panicked- they're feeling the blowback.

#77 loppyd 11/30/07 8:59:44 am 0

re: #70 Dirk Diggler

loppyd,

...

An incredibly profound observation, lopps.

Hey! I resemble that remark. See my #54.

#78 justnobody 11/30/07 8:59:48 am 0

Do they really think the Jewish-Freemasonic European courts will rule in favor of Dewinter?

/

#79 Honorary Yooper 11/30/07 8:59:52 am 0

re: #44 Sharmuta

I also spoke to Siggy about Dymphna's emotional state during the podcast. I believe I said that her voice "quivered" --with anger or outrage or some other intense emotion. I wondered if she was afraid of something.

I remember this part of the conversation, and I'd have to say yes- she' afraid. She's afraid that everything her and "baron" worked for is going to be lost. And it's a well founded fear, because they screwed up. They are not able to withstand the truth. Instead, they continue clinging to their meme- which only propagates the insanity, fear and loss of influence I'm sure they're beginning to feel. They've made quite a hole for themselves, and I think panic might be setting in as they're realize just how deep they've dug themselves.

They've dug in really deep. Any deeper, and I'm afraid Dymphna and the Baron will have themselves a new volcano in their backyard as they will have entered the mantle.

#80 Owl 11/30/07 9:00:29 am 0

I think maybe they are worried that we'll post all that other stuff we have on them. You know, the stuff we know that we're holding; locked away in the Lizard Archives Room. I thought I saw Atlas walkin' outta there the other day with something stuffed in her socks, but then, turns out it was just Berger in drag.


...and it was toilet paper.


oh well.

/wink wink

#81 Sharmuta 11/30/07 9:00:44 am 0

re: #79 Honorary Yooper

Next stop- China.

#82 Honorary Yooper 11/30/07 9:01:08 am 0

re: #76 Sharmuta

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I read at gov how despite the LGF hate threads being full of comments, their traffic has not increased significantly. That's very telling if you ask me. They are panicked- they're feeling the blowback.

And they have the nerve to call us an echo chamber.

#83 insanity police 11/30/07 9:01:20 am 0

O/T
Disgraced Former Professor Ward Churchill Attempts to Connect Nazism, Zionism In Visit To UC Davis

Ward also laughs when someone blamed Bush and Cheney for 9/11

#84 Spiny Norman 11/30/07 9:01:27 am 0

re: #60 Owl

yeah! me! ;)

OT - hey norman, i've often wondered - why are you "spiney" ?

Cool! I get to post this link again: The Piranha Brothers, Part 2.

(Part 1.)

#85 Killgore Trout 11/30/07 9:01:33 am 1
Charles has dropped some of his allegations and has been forced by our insistence to retract online his comments accusing us — CVF — of attempting to mount a DOS attack on him (a denial of service). CVF did no such thing.


Did Charles ever accuse them of this? If he did I missed it. A blog as small as GoV could never pull off a DOS attack big enough to bring down even a small blog much less LGF.

#86 BabbaZee 11/30/07 9:01:48 am 0

re: #75 Peacekeeper

Ya VOL!

Hooplewanky Von Gruppenrippershtwakken
reporting for duty~

#87 JamesTKirk 11/30/07 9:01:48 am 8

So, you're saying that these people have a problem with Sanity? Go figure. Will they be fighting with Dr. Reality next?

#88 Dirk Diggler 11/30/07 9:01:52 am 0

loppyd,

Hey! I resemble that remark. See my #54.

I was just kidding.

#89 Sharmuta 11/30/07 9:01:58 am 0

re: #82 Honorary Yooper

And they have the nerve to call us an echo chamber! ;)

#90