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SF Chronicle Admits Sneaky Comment Deletion Trick

Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 9:44:25 am PST

The San Francisco Chronicle has admitted to their sneaky comment deletion trick: Investigate the Media: S.F. Chronicle admits to deceptive comment-deletion policy, offers bizarre excuse, then lies again.

Previously at LGF:
SF Chronicle’s Sneaky Comment Deletion Trick - Update: ThinkProgress is Doing It Too
Sneaky Comment Trick Proof of Concept
Sneaky Comment Trick Now Disabled

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1 JamesTKirk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:45:48am

I'd comment, but no one would see it but me.

2 talon_262  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:46:18am

At last, someone in the MSM admits to deception? Well, knock me over with a feather...

3 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:46:26am

Honesty from the msm. How unexpected.

4 JamesTKirk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:48:25am

re: #3 Sharmuta

Honesty from the msm. How unexpected.

Doesn't count when they're caught.

5 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:49:22am

so thats why nobody talks back to me.

6 cszwed  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:50:03am

The liberal tricks

7 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:50:15am

re: #1 JamesTKirk

As long as ein is not in the comment we can possibly see it.

8 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:50:45am

Now wait a sec. Didn't zombie say that they are still doing it, even though they claim they've stopped?

9 blutonazi98  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:51:11am

test test test, why wont anyone answer me?

10 Irene NYC  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:52:09am

It's dangerous to let children play with matches.
;)

11 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:52:18am

re: #8 Dead Sea Squirrel

Give that lizard a star!

12 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:52:25am

I am sick and tired of people impugning the professional media. all of whom went to J school.

13 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:52:30am

I still think they should call it the Linda McCartney program: You're singing, but you don't know the mic is turned off.

14 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:52:45am

re: #9 blutonazi98

Ground control to Major Tom?

15 bp sf  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:53:17am

"we made it very clear that we really, really needed a way to indicate that a comment had been deleted"

Yeah sure.

SF Chron + Spray Bottle + 9 parts water + 1 part ammonia = Sparkling Windows!

16 BenZacharia  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:53:23am

Cognito can 'splain it to us.

17 talon_262  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:53:44am

re: #1 JamesTKirk

LMAO!

18 Quiller  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:53:58am

I suppose that the left will immortalize SFC for devising this trick. Given the blind led goats that they are.

19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:54:56am

"we can't figure out how to perform a simple delete and replace but we did figure out how to do a sneaky stealth delete, plus we're too stupid to figure out how to switch it off. So sorry."

And they wonder why noone trusts the MSM anymore?

20 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:56:01am

re: #11 lawhawk

re: #8 Dead Sea Squirrel

Give that lizard a star!

LGF doesn't use stars.

Gimme dat Ding

21 Globular Cluster  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:56:12am

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

22 Crusader Rabbit  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:56:51am

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"we can't figure out how to perform a simple delete and replace but we did figure out how to do a sneaky stealth delete, plus we're too stupid to figure out how to switch it off. So sorry."

And they wonder why noone trusts the MSM anymore?


Tom Brokaw doesn't get it.

23 BenZacharia  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:57:04am

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

24 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:58:16am

re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster


Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.


But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

Tasty? Perhaps.

Hypocritical? Absolutely.

Worried about a fatwa and/or much whining, seething, etc? Positively.

25 saberry0530  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:58:40am

re: #21 Globular Cluster

DAMN! Just as I was about to bid.

26 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:58:49am

Charles,

You should sell the underling LGF code to these ijits.
There isn't any better anywhere.

27 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:58:58am
S.F. Chronicle admits to deceptive comment-deletion policy, offers bizarre excuse, then lies again.

(Casablanca movie quote)

You know, because I totally expected them to like, tell the truth and stuff. After all, whenever leftist weenies are caught doing something dirty, they always come clean, give a straightforward answer to all questions, explain themselves, correct any mistakes, apologize for damage done, and take steps to ensure it never happens again.

/bizarro world

28 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:59:53am

re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

Gonna' have to come up with a St. Pancake pancake to sell.

29 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:59:55am

re: #20 Dead Sea Squirrel

Okay.

30 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:00:01am

I guess the SF Chronicle was for it before they were against it.

31 Globular Cluster  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:00:13am

re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

I actually did bid on the bear. here is the message I got:

Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Please be aware that the following auction-style listing:

Item Number - 270192422059
Item Title - Mohammed Bear , school surplus stock.

has been removed by eBay for breaching of one or more of our policies. Any offers or bids placed on this auction-style listing are now null and void. We advise you not to finalise this transaction with the seller. As stated in the eBay User Agreement, neither seller nor buyer should engage in transactions that breach the law or eBay policy.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety

32 Owl  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:01:45am

Anyone ever feel like you're about to have a siezure...or a great idea. . . and neither one happens. And you wonder what you almost had.

me neither.

33 Nexus  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:01:46am

The SFCronicle being dishonest...imagine that.

34 JamesTKirk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:01:58am

re: #28 jcm

re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

Gonna' have to come up with a St. Pancake pancake to sell.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster Appears in a Thanksgiving Pumpkin Pie

35 rappmandu  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:03:15am

So, they're using the Journeyman excuse? "You're here, but sometimes you disappear, but only you don't notice it."

Heh.

36 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:04:29am

re: #34 JamesTKirk

re: #28 jcm

re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.

But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

Gonna' have to come up with a St. Pancake pancake to sell.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster Appears in a Thanksgiving Pumpkin Pie

I BELIEVE!
*raises hands*

I had a fantasy about getting to Algores presentation and substituting the pirate v. global warming graph for his CO2 v. warming graph.

37 RetiredUSAF  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:04:58am

Rather than have an honest debate delete the comment because it does not met your agenda.

38 rappmandu  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:05:09am

Imagine the irony if the Chronicle disappeared, but only they didn't notice.

Shhh! Nobody clue them in.

39 mean Gene  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:05:51am

Well, it is important to note that it took a full 6 days for the paper to come clean after being outted on this.
Shows that the web will not only need to debunk false stories in the lll but will need to improve on getting the truth out for them.
Why wait?
If we can know the truth within a few hours of a dirty trick or October Surprise, why not set up the organized means to make sure everybody else can know it, too?
I usually link back here at other boards and write to Fox and my local news (which is Los Angeles, CA.) why not a list of email addys we can use to make it faster and easier?

40 zombie  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:07:48am

re: #8 Dead Sea Squirrel

Now wait a sec. Didn't zombie say that they are still doing it, even though they claim they've stopped?

Yup. Click the "Investigate the Media" link that Charles gives and read the whole post -- I catch them red-handed again.

41 rappmandu  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:08:13am

I see dead people deleted comments.

/

42 zombie  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:08:29am

re: #13 Dead Sea Squirrel

I still think they should call it the Linda McCartney program: You're singing, but you don't know the mic is turned off.

LOL!

43 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:09:13am

BTW:
Thanks for putting up with my lengthy and numerous posts above. I just know you agree that the truth about Charles Johnson needs to come out.

44 zombie  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:09:56am

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"we can't figure out how to perform a simple delete and replace but we did figure out how to do a sneaky stealth delete, plus we're too stupid to figure out how to switch it off. So sorry."

And they wonder why noone trusts the MSM anymore?

Exactly. Their "exuse" was totally laughable.

45 zombie  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:12:14am

re: #26 jcm

Charles,

You should sell the underling LGF code to these ijits.
There isn't any better anywhere.

That's what I've been telling him all year. Charles could make a fortune marketing a commenting template based on the LGF code. It smokes all the competition.

46 zombie  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:17:35am

re: #39 mean Gene

Well, it is important to note that it took a full 6 days for the paper to come clean after being outted on this.
Shows that the web will not only need to debunk false stories in the lll but will need to improve on getting the truth out for them.
Why wait?
If we can know the truth within a few hours of a dirty trick or October Surprise, why not set up the organized means to make sure everybody else can know it, too?
I usually link back here at other boards and write to Fox and my local news (which is Los Angeles, CA.) why not a list of email addys we can use to make it faster and easier?

The problem, mean Gene, is the the LLLs control the media stream, and they'll do everything they can to suppress the information from being promulgated.

It's not laziness or inaction on our part that prevents the REAL truth from being publicized; it's that we're being actively thwarted at every turn.

The struggle proceeds apace.

47 NY Nana  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:18:02am

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Mob calls for execution of teddy teacher as peer launches rescue mission

Execution.....it is not from the Onion; Times (UK).

If anyone had a doubt as to the evil of the cult of islam....

48 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:18:41am

re: #45 zombie

re: #26 jcm

Charles,

You should sell the underling LGF code to these ijits.
There isn't any better anywhere.

That's what I've been telling him all year. Charles could make a fortune marketing a commenting template based on the LGF code. It smokes all the competition.

There's competition? ;-)

49 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:22:56am

Back when I used to waste time as a troll at ThinkProgress, occasionally I would post a comment and the comment would disappear after about 30 seconds. This would only happen when I would answer some TP moonbat's request for proof or when I would post a link to something which refuted an accusation made by TP.

On a few occasions my comment would reappear five to ten minutes later but altered so that some words were spelled incorrectly and the grammar altered to make to make it look as if I were illiterate.

Needless to say I've stopped posting at ThinkProgress.

50 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:24:19am

re: #44 zombie

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"we can't figure out how to perform a simple delete and replace but we did figure out how to do a sneaky stealth delete, plus we're too stupid to figure out how to switch it off. So sorry."

And they wonder why noone trusts the MSM anymore?

Exactly. Their "exuse" was totally laughable.

Their sysadmin was working under poor lighting conditions.

51 ernieg  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:24:51am

[deleted

52 ernieg  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:26:10am

There. You'll never know what I really said.

53 debutaunt  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:27:58am

A linguini miracle - amazing. re: #34 JamesTKirk

re: #28 jcm


re: #23 BenZacharia

re: #21 Globular Cluster

Charles,

Ebay has removed the ad for the Muhammad Bear.


But they let the 'Jesus' pancake proceed?

Gonna' have to come up with a St. Pancake pancake to sell.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster Appears in a Thanksgiving Pumpkin Pie
54 chinesearithmetic  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:29:06am

Our dirty little press.

55 edfeeney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:30:45am

LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA I CANNOT HEAR YOU LALALALA. I'D APPRECIATE A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR MY VERY FIRST EMPLOYER. YEP I WAS A PAPER BOY FOR THE OL CHRONICLE WHEN THEIR MOTTO WAS "DECENCEY AND FAIR-MINDEDNESS". THOSE WERE THE DAYS. OOOOOPS MY MISTAKE, I DELIVERED FOR THE SF EXAMINER. HEY SCREW THE CHRONICLE THOSE MAGGOTS. I REMEMBER WHEN THEIR MOTTO USED TO BE "OUR OPINION IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS. SORRY

56 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:32:35am

Unfortuneatly liberals know no shame and this issue is only going to elevate them in the sight of their peers.

57 mean Gene  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:38:27am

re: #46 zombie

re: #39 mean Gene

The problem, mean Gene, is the the LLLs control the media stream, and they'll do everything they can to suppress the information from being promulgated.

It's not laziness or inaction on our part that prevents the REAL truth from being publicized; it's that we're being actively thwarted at every turn.

The struggle proceeds apace.

I disagree.
IF the entire LLL got plastered with the truth there'd be a race to see which one could by "first!" It is human nature even in the lefty nr=ews media.

58 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:54am

I read these comments from time to time, when I want to remind myself how deranged are the people all around me. Anyway, the classic comment is "where are all the right wingers?". To answer, they have all been filtered out. I know because I am a filteree.

59 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:40:12am
60 Sheik Yur MnyMk'r  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:34am

The Ron Paul supporting, false fredthompsonforum.com is doing the same thing. I posted a poll on their website after the debate, left Ron Paul's name off, and nobody could see it but me. I logged in as a different user, and none of my comments were there at all. When I log back in with my first username, everything shows up. I just thought people were ignoring me.

61 winslow  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:54:25am

To the tune of She’s Not There
(With apologies to The Zombies)

It’s Not There!

Well, no one told me my comment
Had been removed.
I had no clue that my comment
Was quickly disapproved.

Though it’s too late to read my comment,
I’ll never know; I’m unaware.
Please don’t bother trying to find it;
It’s not there!

Well, let me tell you ’bout the post I wrote,
My point of view, writ so eloquent and fair.
My facts were cold and hard, my logic clear and tight,
But it’s not there!

Well, no one told me my comment
Had lost its soul.
I had no clue that my comment
Went down the mem’ry hole.

Though no one else can see my comment,
It’s plain to me; at it I stare.
But don’t bother trying to find it;
It’s not there!

Well, let me tell you ’bout the post I wrote;
My reasoned prose, ’twas so elegant and rare.
My words impeccable! My thoughts invincible!
But it’s not there!

62 konservo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:56:02am
SF Chronicle Admits Sneaky Comment Deletion Trick


Nice! I'm sure that ThinkProgress will be fessin' up too!

**crickets**

63 The Moral Atheist  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:12:03pm

Rather than just deleting comments and showing the original comment to the original poster, you can do something even more insidious. You could EDIT the post, and the original posted would never know it has been edited because he would still see the post he made. Now that's EVIL ;)

64 Orbit Rain  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:17:41pm

liars lie

The SF Chronicle lies!?!

go figure

...but seriously...anyone here who's attempted to engage the lying assholes on these lefty websites already knew that their comments were being deleted and their accounts banned...ask me how I know...It's been a few years since I've tried, though...reminds me of the Jonathon Swift "It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of what he was never reasoned into."

...you can only *try* to reason with a liar, since truth is anathema...

65 konservo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:03:39pm

re: #63 The Moral Atheist

Shhh... there's a good chance that Paulestinians are reading this (you know, just in case !Ron !Paul is mentioned by someone).

[8^/

We don't want to give them any ideas.

66 hazzyday  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:51:10pm

SFC, they would lie about their own mother... well the NYT

67 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 6:24:54pm

re: #46 zombie

re: #39 mean Gene


Well, it is important to note that it took a full 6 days for the paper to come clean after being outted on this....

The problem, mean Gene, is the the LLLs control the media stream, and they'll do everything they can to suppress the information from being promulgated.

It's not laziness or inaction on our part that prevents the REAL truth from being publicized; it's that we're being actively thwarted at every turn.

The struggle proceeds apace.

Well, put zombie.

This is also true of the CNN planting game. The CNN lawyers and “fact checkers” are not stupid – they are corrupt. The sheer logistics of getting air time for those plants must have taken considerable preparation. That is why I don’t trust them one bit.

Keep up the good work.


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