Excellent!

Was there calm, rational nudity?

He was assaulted by a Ron Paul Nutjob trying to stop his protest.

Classic

Seize Him!

re: #2 JamesTKirk

Was there calm, rational nudity?

I find calm, irrational nudity more entertaining, personally. Especially if there are mixed drinks involved.

/my book club meetings are pretty wild

Wait a minute. No "Don't Tase me, Bro" moment? What's with that?

somehow you just don't see enough nudity at conservative protests. maybe that's were we're going wrong :)

re: #2 JamesTKirk

Was there calm, rational nudity?

ERROR -31687: "Sean Penn" and "Rational Nudity" cannot be combined in the same thought.

Aloha Spicoli

I couldn't take the audio anymore. It played a lot better without Spicoli making noise. I hope the first guy in the beard got locked up (although I doubt it).

Well, I must give credit to Sean Penn for not calling for security to kick the guy out.

Spicoli should stick to acting. Facts and Penn have a way of ignoring each other.

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

As for myself. I would have held the sign on the side. However it was good to see how much class the young man had. As well as guts.

Republicans are no fun.

According to the pre-speech estimate by the CIA (California Internet Assembly) : while many were known to be capable of making signs, nobody was believed to have actually constructed any, Indeed it was believed with high confidence that the College Republicans in particular had discontinued their sign making activities in 2003.

OT - Carryover from last thread:

The CIA was not hoodwinked by Iran

re: #16 buzzsawmonkey

re: #3 maximoso

That was a Kucinich nutjob--two, actually--who tried to block his sign and then tore it from his grasp.

It would be nice to know what was written on the signs. And it's too bad they weren't better made, with more visible lettering.

Interesting that some of these would-be guardians of the Constitution cannot stand even the presence of a silent dissenter.

The first one said "Stop supporting America's enemies". The second one said "Hey Sean, have you seen a UFO too?". I liked the second sign better.

Hahaha! He came prepared with a second sign as though he knew what he was in for. Good for him!

And, I have to say, I agreed with sean penn...about hillary. But only about hillary.

I like that the cop leads blue-sweatshirt out. Hey, Sunshine, guess what? You just committed assault and battery.

Don't laugh at the clueless fool Penn too hard. If thunderthighs wins POTUS, the sonofabitch will probably head the CIA.

Ah, so now we know the military issue that is most greatly weighing on leftists' minds: "gay rights in the military". Doesn't matter if they win or lose any of those war thingies, as long as they celebrate diversity.

Put Sean in a pen.

re: #4 Peacekeeper

Seize Him!

I've always wanted a job where I can say that.

Somebody needs to take Spicoli's comments about Hillary and make them into an anti-hillary ad.
They were better than anyhting a republican would dare say and get away with.

re: #15 MandyManners

Lovely avatar. Whiteout perhaps? LOL. Reminds me of a blond joke I heard once, but I won't go there.

re: #25 Occasional Reader

re: #4 Peacekeeper

Seize Him!

I've always wanted a job where I can say that.

[Link: www.hillaryclinton.com...]

re: #19 marwan's daughter

I liked the second sign too. And sean's reaction was considerably tamer than his earlier days when he'd punch photographers. Nice to know even flaming leftist can grow up, even if it's just by a little bit.

Yawn.

Who is listening to Sean Penn anyway?

The man has delusions of relevance.

Penn is a complete tool. If someone from the right with less extremist views they would be screaming... From the video 'Bill Clinton's great gift'...umm, would that be the stain on the dress?

Dennis Kucinich...Really, is Sean Penn serious? What an asshat.

I thought Sean was an actor?
If that is the best he can do no wonder his career is in the crapper.
Sounded like a fifth grader reading his book report.

"Put Sean in a pen." Peacekeeper

Na just make him live in some crappy country that he thinks is so much better than the good old USA.

re: #27 buzzsawmonkey

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Ah, so now we know the military issue that is most greatly weighing on leftists' minds: "gay rights in the military". Doesn't matter if they win or lose any of those war thingies, as long as they celebrate diversity.

Since there will be no wars when the left is in charge, what is really important is not battle readiness but the freedom to be getting it on back at the base.

I imagine a Village People Joint Chiefs of Staff...

re: #27 buzzsawmonkey

what is really important is not battle readiness

Nope, that stuff is way too butch.

Sean is a tool, but Lizards are cool.

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

Rotating title nomination!

If I would have been in his place I would have very calmly and discretly raised my right knee and kicked the moonbat in his tiny nuts.

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Ah, so now we know the military issue that is most greatly weighing on leftists' minds: "gay rights in the military". Doesn't matter if they win or lose any of those war thingies, as long as they celebrate diversity.

Sounds like the current policy of the (once-proud) British military.

without all the crazed left-wing screaming and nudity.

Did they at the very least have some furries and some giant paper-mache heads?

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in. For leftists, it's all they can think about when anyone mentions the word "military". (Well, that, and "atrocities".)

Once again the left shows that the way to deal with ideas other than your own is to try and suppress them rather than engage them in an actual discussion of the issues. The guy in the video did a great job keeping his cool in a room full of crazies.

re: #7 beblebrox

San Fran's got to be a special case for young Republicans. It is after all a fascist city.

/Fascism relates to methodology not an ideology.

re: #42 RickZ

Sounds like the current policy of the (once-proud) British military.

"'Rum, sodomy and the lash'?! Oooh, where do I sign!"

OT - ( can I do that yet on this thread?)

In case the DDT is D. . . .

I got a 360. My gamertag is " GeorgiaOwl." Someone play Forza2 with me.

Oh and RON PAUL !11!1!
just to get hat out of the way for today. :)

charles. you're never going to put up another wish list are you? Christmas is very close. I am just going to send you some money. You want that in Euros?

Iranian student protests today show a decidely different anti-war perspective.

Sean Penn referring to Bill Clinton, "when he gives his wife a taste of his talents."
I'm not going there.

re: #44 Occasional Reader

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in. For leftists, it's all they can think about when anyone mentions the word "military". (Well, that, and "atrocities".)

You fool! The Gay Menace must be stopped! To that end I'm announcing the formation of a new group to promote homophobia-The Dire Straights.

Screaming & (near) nudity - It made Will Farrell a star.

I just want to to see my snarling wolf. Sean who?

Sorry, couldn't make it past about 15 seconds of the vid. Urge to retch too great. I feel so unclean now...

PIMF: Iranian student protests today Sunday show a decidely different anti-war perspective.

re: #50 Jack D. Ripper

Sean Penn referring to Bill Clinton, "when he gives his wife a taste of his talents."
I'm not going there.

I don't think Bill ever did, either.

I see Gates of Vienna people.

/sorry, can't hep myself, it's catchy

re: #44 Occasional Reader

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in.

As long as Mister Sulu did his job, I never cared what he did on shore leave.

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

re: #47 Occasional Reader

re: #42 RickZ

Sounds like the current policy of the (once-proud) British military.

"'Rum, sodomy and the lash'?! Oooh, where do I sign!"

"In the Navy, you can join your fellow man..."

re: #47 Occasional Reader

re: #42 RickZ

Sounds like the current policy of the (once-proud) British military.

"'Rum, sodomy and the lash'?! Oooh, where do I sign!"

Hey now, don't forget keelhauling. I heard it's quite the spectator sport. Like exposure to wild beasts. The end is foretold before the game begins.

re: #50 Jack D. Ripper

Sean Penn referring to Bill Clinton, "when he gives his wife a taste of his talents."

I'm not going there.

You'd have to take a number if you did go there.

re: #56 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I don't think Bill ever did, either.

Once. Chelsea.

re: #58 JamesTKirk

re: #44 Occasional Reader

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in.

As long as Mister Sulu did his job, I never cared what he did on shore leave.

Including that time he stripped down and ran around swashing his buckler?

OT

Shocker from Afghanistan

Taliban Hang 12 Year Old Boy

re: #28 Cap'n DOC

re: #15 MandyManners

Lovely avatar. Whiteout perhaps? LOL. Reminds me of a blond joke I heard once, but I won't go there.

Someone said Mandy is using the French flag.

re: #18 Carl in Jerusalem Sorry to disagree with your assessment, but while I don't think the national security agencies (NOT just the CIA) got hoodwinked by the British, nor that the NIE was faulty to enable us to have closer ties to Iran, I think it was a deliberate attempt to block Bush on military action against Iran. You can't possibly underestimate America's intense dislike of Iran, starting with 1979 and growning ever since.

re: #64 Peacekeeper

re: #58 JamesTKirk

re: #44 Occasional Reader

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in.

As long as Mister Sulu did his job, I never cared what he did on shore leave.

Including that time he stripped down and ran around swashing his buckler?

That sort of behavior belonged in his quarters.

I must say his whole -

I'm not buying what the media is selling

is an area where we agree.

omg - I agree with spicoli.
I must punish myself in some manner.

re: #65 ornery elephant

And that happened on Human Rights Day. Tells you all you need to know.

OT --

MICHAEL VICK SENTENCED TO 23 MONTHS!

23 months for killing and torturing dogs. He could have gotten up to 5 years. Thankfully, he still faces state charges in Virgina, which could give him more years.

We should all donate at lease $23 ($1 for each month he is sentenced to) to the ASPCA to prevent cruelty!

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]

re: #60 Peacekeeper

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

And the Pentagon would definitely ramp up production of the BLU-116 Advanced Unitary Penetrator.

re: #49 Terp Mole

My first thoughts are ... That "News agency" is now shut down and the women, well... we know what's gonna happen to the women.

re: #28 Cap'n DOC

I thought it was The White Album.

re: #60 Peacekeeper

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

At least a large gay contingent could come up with more fashionable uniforms - camo is so last Tuesday.

Btw - don't be fooled. the MSM is pushing for Huckabee because he is entirely unelectable.

I wouldn't be surprised if the dems stuff the ballot boxes for him in preliminary primary states.

re: #74 Sharmuta

re: #28 Cap'n DOC

I thought it was The White Album.

No, it was a photo she took out her window of a raging snowstorm.

Well I am glad that this young man gave them a taste of their own medicine! He did it much nicely and seemingly quietly and more dignified.

re: #71 legalbgl

23 months for killing and torturing dogs.

Meanwhile, Conrad Black faces prison for the rest of his life for, basically, running his business.

re: #78 buzzsawmonkey

re: #69 FrogMarch

omg - I agree with spicoli.
I must punish myself in some manner.

Dobby the house-elf in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets can offer you some tips on that.

You want advice from Vladimir Putin in a pillowcase?

re: #67 realwest

re: #18 Carl in Jerusalem Sorry to disagree with your assessment, but while I don't think the national security agencies (NOT just the CIA) got hoodwinked by the British, nor that the NIE was faulty to enable us to have closer ties to Iran, I think it was a deliberate attempt to block Bush on military action against Iran. You can't possibly underestimate America's intense dislike of Iran, starting with 1979 and growning ever since.

I lived in the US until 1991 and I know how much the general population hates the mullahs.

But when 'our friends the Saudis' jump, the CIA and the State Department ask "how high?" This time, they jumped pretty high.

re: #58 JamesTKirk

As long as Mister Sulu did his job, I never cared what he did on shore leave.

Savor it.

/chances are slim you'll ever manage to type something that funny again

re: #82 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #67 realwest

re: #18 Carl in Jerusalem Sorry to disagree with your assessment, but while I don't think the national security agencies (NOT just the CIA) got hoodwinked by the British, nor that the NIE was faulty to enable us to have closer ties to Iran, I think it was a deliberate attempt to block Bush on military action against Iran. You can't possibly underestimate America's intense dislike of Iran, starting with 1979 and growning ever since.

I lived in the US until 1991 and I know how much the general population hates the mullahs.

But when 'our friends the Saudis' say "jump," the CIA and the State Department ask "how high?" This time, they jumped pretty high.

Fixed that.

re: #66 debutaunt

I'll buy that.

That kid and Zombie might be the only sane people left in San Fran.

re: #44 Occasional Reader

And just to be clear; I am actually in favor of eliminating "no gays allowed" from military policy. But it's a relatively trivial issue, given the threat environment we live in. For leftists, it's all they can think about when anyone mentions the word "military". (Well, that, and "atrocities".)

As I understand it, if the military were to decide tomorrow that lefties (left-handed persons) are too much trouble to train (we do have more accidents and it does take more time to train us), they could kick them all out and refuse to accept lefties as recruits. It's a military matter, and it's got nothing to do with "fairness". I see the gay issue much the same way.

Civilian snivelling always leaves me shaking my head.

re: #86 BrianA

That kid and Zombie might be the only sane people left in San Fran.

Have you ever seen that kid and Zombie in the same place at the same time ... ?

re: #66 debutaunt

LOL!

Theres just something about Sean Penn that just makes you want to slap him so hard you break all of the bones in your hand, then repeat with the other hand...

re: #79 Psaturn

The true difference between us. Civility and respect for the law. We get the 'wrap' as the violent ones (since we prefer a strong military) - It is the government's Prime Directive (if you will Capt Kirk). To protect us.
But as you can see.. the name calling and the violence did not start with the republicans.

I like the way the Republican protester and Sean Penn both have the same same hair.

Eeeexcellent.

re: #88 JamesTKirk

Spock?! What's happening?! Spock!?

It's pretty odd how this guy just stand there, occupying the area around his seat only--and a kook comes down "in the name of free speech" to assault, menace and threaten him. Kudos to the police for dispatching the idiot and leaving the peaceful dissenter alone, because, outside of maybe turning the row behind him into an obstructed view seat, he did nothing wrong--and certainly nothing illegal in this society.

The holidays bring out the best in all of us, don't they?

Penn kept talking about the Constitution. That word contains too many syllables for him to use it.

re: #75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #60 Peacekeeper

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

At least a large gay contingent could come up with more fashionable uniforms - camo is so last Tuesday.

YOU FOOLS. We can never allow gays in the military. We cannot squander a precious resource like the American homosexual on the fields of battle.

re: #35 Shellac

"Put Sean in a pen." Peacekeeper

Na just make him live in some crappy country that he thinks is so much better than the good old USA.

Even better yet - send him back to N.O. in a boat "a la Katrina", where he forgot to plug the bottom of the boat and started sinking, caught on film by the media entourage he brought with him to film how gloriously caring he is.

re: #92 Ringo the Gringo

They also share the same acting ability. Although the protester is a better mime than Penn is an actor.

I don't know...
I really wish conservatives would yell/scream/disrupt idiotic speeches. Sing the national anthem, G-d bless America in the middle of Penn's speech. I'm tired of being the "good guys".

Here's an alternate view of what happened. :)

I wonder how Spicoli feels about Newsweek's report that Chavez tried to 'fix' the referendum and only backed down at the threat of a military coup if he did .

Probably wishes that Hugo pressed forward and just purged the military of those 'traitors'.

Why do these Hollywood idiots get any time or consideration for their opinions?

re: #87 Dianna

(we do have more accidents and it does take more time to train us)

Which is EXACTLY why I hate all you "sinisters" with an undying passion, and wish to see you all driven into the sea! I am currently seeking UN General Assembly endorsement for my highly reasonable position.

they could kick them all out and refuse to accept lefties as recruits. It's a military matter

Personally, I am not aware of any studies that reach the conclusion that gays are harder to train in the military.

OT: Colorado shootings

If it might help damp down some speculation, the house searched by Colorado authorities in connection with the Arvada and Colorado Springs shootings belongs to a prominent area physician.
I am about 95% sure I have identified the shooter as well but I will not post any names until there is official confirmation.
They are almost certainly not Muslim and have no other radical connections I could find in a series of google searches.

re: #72 Occasional Reader
Talk dirty
A bomb typically includes a hard casing having an interior hollow space for containing an explosive material.

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

YOU FOOLS. We can never allow gays in the military. We cannot squander a precious resource like the American homosexual on the fields of battle.

LOL so hard my stuffing's falling out.

re: #94 cosmo

To a leftist, free speech only represents their right to speak. Once you have a differing opinion from them...you have to shut up. It's no different from their hypocrisy on other forms of 'tolerance'.

Mr Spicoli why do you insist on continually wasting my time?

/ Mr Hand

I just can't get over that sean named his kid "Hopper Jack".

WTF is wrong with celebrities that they all seem to do this crazy name thing with their kids? Like it's not torture enough to have these people as parents, they get stuck with wacko names too.

In college today, it's the conservatives and the the capitalists who are the rebels and the free-thinkers.

...Kind of makes me wish I could go back.

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

Disgruntled parishoner who had issues with both congregations? Maybe someone who donated money to both, and thought they got bamboozled?

re: #108 Sharmuta

I just can't get over that sean named his kid "Hopper Jack".

WTF
is wrong with celebrities that they all seem to do this crazy name
thing with their kids? Like it's not torture enough to have these
people as parents, they get stuck with wacko names too.

What, you don't think "Apple" is a normal name for your first-born? Gwyneth Paltrow thought it was!

Where's this guy when you need him?

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #60 Peacekeeper

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

At least a large gay contingent could come up with more fashionable uniforms - camo is so last Tuesday.

YOU FOOLS. We can never allow gays in the military. We cannot squander a precious resource like the American homosexual on the fields of battle.

BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!

re: #95 Mohammed T. Bear

Penn kept talking about the Constitution. That word contains too many syllables for him to use it.

We can always hope that he'll into his local pharmacy and yammer about the Constipation.

re: #108 Sharmuta

I just can't get over that sean named his kid "Hopper Jack".

Hey, it beats Dweezil.

/Frank was one twisted individual

re: #108 Sharmuta

I just can't get over that sean named his kid "Hopper Jack".

WTF is wrong with celebrities that they all seem to do this crazy name thing with their kids? Like it's not torture enough to have these people as parents, they get stuck with wacko names too.

Makes me wonder about the circumstances of his conception.

re: #69 FrogMarch

I must say his whole -

I'm not buying what the media is selling

is an area where we agree.

omg - I agree with spicoli.
I must punish myself in some manner.

I believe the appropriate method is smacking yourself in the forehead with a tennis shoe.

re: #116 MandyManners

re: #108 Sharmuta

I just can't get over that sean named his kid "Hopper Jack".

WTF is wrong with celebrities that they all seem to do this crazy name thing with their kids? Like it's not torture enough to have these people as parents, they get stuck with wacko names too.

Makes me wonder about the circumstances of his conception.

He had the strength to climb out of the container holding aborted fetuses. Props to him for that one.

re: #100 BlueCanuck

Here's an alternate view of what happened. :)

At the end, Sean Penn threw his notes at them...

...they should have put them up on ebay to raise money for military families, like Rush did...

...got all the way to comment 6 before someone mentioned tasing.. slackers!

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Personally, I am not aware of any studies that reach the conclusion that gays are harder to train in the military.

I think some of them are just worried about what gays will do to their precious bodily fluids.

I cannot beleive that I sat here and listened to SPent! But the protestor was worth it.

re: #121 JamesTKirk

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Personally, I am not aware of any studies that reach the conclusion that gays are harder to train in the military.

I think some of them are just worried about what gays will do to their precious bodily fluids.

Thank you, General Ripper.

"Bride Snatching"

re: #40 lurking faith

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

Rotating title nomination!

LOL!

Didn't we all get to peruse Sean Penn's attempt at prose a few years ago? He did not write that speech. It had actual sentences - start with a capital letter, must contain a subject and a verb and end with a period. If someone could find that list of Hollywood actors who dropped out of high school, plus those who never went to college or dropped out - someone complied it a while ago and it was available on the internet. It was useful to inform us ignorati of the appalling lack of education of these professional pontificators. They are truly airheads. Maybe that's why they go into acting - there's nothing inside so they effortlessly assume the qualities of whatever character is presented to them. War and international relations, diplomacy, the nuances of foreign trade, treaties, legalities, strategy, etc etc are so far above their heads, they shut down.

SO, we get a lovely scene of a man droning on about "The Constitution" while five feet away, is a man silently standing there partaking in his Constitutional right of freedom of speech, and old Sean Penn DOESN'T DEFEND THE PROTESTER'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT when a man forcibly interferes with the guy to tear down his message.
Sean, words have meaning. If you are making a speech about Constitutional rights and fail to defend a citizen - the average guy, one of the masses, the little fellow - against an abridgement of them that is occuring an arm's length from you, then shut up.

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #60 Peacekeeper

A gay military will feature more and more leather-boots, belts jackets and hats.

At least a large gay contingent could come up with more fashionable uniforms - camo is so last Tuesday.

YOU FOOLS. We can never allow gays in the military. We cannot squander a precious resource like the American homosexual on the fields of battle.

Maybe they can do something about those perfectly dreadful barracks.

re: #112 MandyManners

Where's this guy when you need him?

Ugh.
Just goes to show ya, some guys will do a knothole.

re: #125 wanumba

re: #40 lurking faith

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

Rotating title nomination!

LOL!

Didn't we all get to peruse Sean Penn's attempt at prose a few years ago? He did not write that speech. It had actual sentences - start with a capital letter, must contain a subject and a verb and end with a period. If someone could find that list of Hollywood actors who dropped out of high school, plus those who never went to college or dropped out - someone complied it a while ago and it was available on the internet. It was useful to inform us ignorati of the appalling lack of education of these professional pontificators. They are truly airheads. Maybe that's why they go into acting - there's nothing inside so they effortlessly assume the qualities of whatever character is presented to them. War and international relations, diplomacy, the nuances of foreign trade, treaties, legalities, strategy, etc etc are so far above their heads, they shut down.

SO, we get a lovely scene of a man droning on about "The Constitution" while five feet away, is a man silently standing there partaking in his Constitutional right of freedom of speech, and old Sean Penn DOESN'T DEFEND THE PROTESTER'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT when a man forcibly interferes with the guy to tear down his message.
Sean, words have meaning. If you are making a speech about Constitutional rights and fail to defend a citizen - the average guy, one of the masses, the little fellow - against an abridgement of them that is occuring an arm's length from you, then shut up.

... They came for the man standing in front of me with a sign, and I did not protest ...

BTW...what was with the puffy jacket? I just liked the fact the kid stood his ground and had a second sign at the ready. Must've been a boy scout.

re: #87 Dianna

"Accidental deaths do not occur randomly but rather affect certain segments of the population more than others. For example, being left-handed in a right-handed world shortens life-expectancy according to a study of Southern Californians conducted by Diane Halpern and Stanley Coren (New England Journal of Medicine, 1991). They found right-handers living to 75 while left-handers live to only see 66--the latter being five times more likely to die (7.9% v. 1.5%) of accidents. "

It's the sissors mostly ( and the sholder houlster in my left armpit and my Colt 1911 had no sympthy for my afliction!)

re: #90 maddogg

Theres just something about Sean Penn that just makes you want to slap him so hard you break all of the bones in your hand, then repeat with the other hand...

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Quiet protests and even humour can be such powerful political tools when used properly.
And grudgingly, my hat is off to Penn for being smart enough not to react violently and even to defend the protester.
Of course the clincher is when the unrestrained leftist moron is escorted out of the room by the security officer.
We can ALL learn something from this display of civilized behavior.

After having watched the video, I have to say Penn's public speaking skills are atrocious. He basically had his head down and was hunched over reading off his cards the whole time. He rarely attempted to make eye contact with his audience and basically kept it in a monotone recitation. A very boring speaker.

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After having watched the video, I have to say Penn's public speaking skills are atrocious. He basically had his head down and was hunched over reading off his cards the whole time. He rarely attempted to make eye contact with his audience and basically kept it in a monotone recitation. A very boring speaker.

Agreed. I will give him credit, though, for not calling for the Republican bro to get tased.

re: #126 ErnieG

Maybe they can do something about those perfectly dreadful barracks.

There's more than one Barrack Obama?

Yes, I like the "turn about is fair play" argument but these left-wing nut jobs are not our teachers and we should not copy their tactics.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

An analogy only, OR; it's a characteristic that can't really be changed.

If the military thinks, presently, that open gays might make for problems, the military can say, "Thanks, but no thanks." Presently, that is their thinking.

No one is to mention the Theban Sacred Band.

re: #112 MandyManners

Where's this guy when you need him?

That guy isn't very smart. I see he didn't bring his HAZMAT suit with him.

re: #110 lawhawk

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

Disgruntled parishoner who had issues with both congregations? Maybe someone who donated money to both, and thought they got bamboozled?

The doctor has a son who matches the shooter's description and who lives at the same address. I can't find anything that would point to motivation.

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

OT: Colorado shootings

If it might help damp down some speculation, the house searched by Colorado authorities in connection with the Arvada and Colorado Springs shootings belongs to a prominent area physician. I am about 95% sure I have identified the shooter as well but I will not post any names until there is official confirmation. They are almost certainly not Muslim and have no other radical connections I could find in a series of google searches.

What's "Muslim" got to do with it? Ever since the attacks in the UK earlier this year, we know that doctors are a major source of terrorist threats. And yet, we're still not allowed to profile people at airports who wear stethoscopes and those little mirror thingies on their heads...

re: #130 gregindallas

LOL!

Yeah, I've learned to manage, at least with firearms. Though I'm very cautious with power tools; I'm given to understand that more lefties off themselves with things like chain saws that you really want to think about.

re: #129 inldad67

I just liked the fact the kid stood his ground and had a second sign at the ready.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict that he'd be assaulted and his sign vandalized. It may have even happened to him personally before.

re: #140 shiplord kirel

And you can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons?

I think the counter-protester said "Hey, dude, that's my gig"!

re: #50 Jack D. Ripper

Sean Penn referring to Bill Clinton, "when he gives his wife a taste of his talents."
I'm not going there.

Thank you. Ewww!

re: #143 JamesTKirk

No doubt..but if the tables were turned, the guy with the sign would have started the "Don't tear my sign Bro'!" chant and anarchy would rule the rest of the speech...Haha..

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Ah, so now we know the military issue that is most greatly weighing on leftists' minds: "gay rights in the military". Doesn't matter if they win or lose any of those war thingies, as long as they celebrate diversity.

Well OR ... two more cutting insights.

I myself was left wondering how Penn could be standing on stage making a point of defending the constitution (though in his own childishly presumptuous manner) yet at no time expressed to the larger audience the importance of free speech as guaranteed by the constitution as a general principle to respect.

Here indeed a silent but ostensible statement was being made by the opposition and these idiot Liberals were compelled to use direct hostile action to squash it. What constitution might they be referring to anyway?

re: #138 Dianna

If the military thinks, presently, that open gays might make for problems, the military can say, "Thanks, but no thanks." Presently, that is their thinking.

Well, sure, but in a free society, we're allowed to challenge that thinking.

re: #52 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Screaming & (near) nudity - It made Will Farrell a star.

Yes. Yes , it did.

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re: #28 Cap'n DOC

re: #15 MandyManners

Lovely avatar. Whiteout perhaps? LOL. Reminds me of a blond joke I heard once, but I won't go there.

Someone said Mandy is using the French flag.

Or the new logo of the Democratic Party.

re: #141 JamesTKirk

we know that doctors are a major source of terrorist threats

So we can add them to the profile list:

Doctors
Youth
Broad strata
White guys driving white vans
Military veterans
Suspicious-looking nuns

re: #149 Occasional Reader

re: #138 Dianna

If the military thinks, presently, that open gays might make for problems, the military can say, "Thanks, but no thanks." Presently, that is their thinking.

Well, sure, but in a free society, we're allowed to challenge that thinking.

if it ain't broke don't fix it.

re: #152 Occasional Reader

HA - Suspicious looking Nuns!

re: #149 Occasional Reader

But it's their decision. I don't have to agree with it or like it, but I'm not in the military.

Dang! - Clock on the wall says lunch time over here on the East Coast...back to work. D'OH!

re: #155 Dianna

re: #149 Occasional Reader

But it's their decision. I don't have to agree with it or like it, but I'm not in the military.

We have civilian control over the military. Bollocksed-up as that may be at times, that's a good thing overall.

It was not that long ago that the military had racially-segregated units. President Truman told them "enough of that", and we're the better for it.

re: #153 bulwrk

re: #138 Dianna

If the military thinks, presently, that open gays might make for problems, the military can say, "Thanks, but no thanks." Presently, that is their thinking.

if it ain't broke don't fix it.

But they have "fixed" changed any number of other standards, in order to meet recruitment goals, so there's no reason not to at least consider this as well. I realize a lot of people are pushing this strictly as a political agenda; but has there ever been a reliable survey of exactly how many competent and committed individuals really want to enlist, and are only held back by the anti-gay policy? We already know that there are many homosexuals who serve with honor and distinction before being outed and dismissed; do you think that most of them are being caught, or that those are merely the tip of the iceberg?

re: #76 FrogMarch

Btw - don't be fooled. the MSM is pushing for Huckabee because he is entirely unelectable.

I wouldn't be surprised if the dems stuff the ballot boxes for him in preliminary primary states.

Maybe it's the whites of Nancy Pelosi's eyes, taken with a very fast shutter speed so we don't see the blinking.

Be honest, how many of you would've given the white t-shirt oaf a serious beat down had you been Republican sign guy?

way off topic; I see no avatars. I went into my account and checked all related boxes and yet still no avatars. Any advice would be appreciated.

re: #48 Owl

OT - ( can I do that yet on this thread?)

In case the DDT is D. . . .

I got a 360. My gamertag is " GeorgiaOwl." Someone play Forza2 with me.

Did you download the new car pack and Road America? I downloaded the track on Saturday and ran a few laps around it before having to go watch the fight Saturday night.

re: #63 JamesTKirk

re: #50 Jack D. Ripper

Sean Penn referring to Bill Clinton, "when he gives his wife a taste of his talents."I'm not going there.

You'd have to take a number if you did go there.

re: #56 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I don't think Bill ever did, either.

Once. Chelsea.

I insist on a DNA paternity test before I draw any conclusion on that!

JAFLW

re: #116 MandyManners

Actually- the boy was named after Jack Nicholson and Dennis Hopper. Why they didn't go with Jack, or Dennis- we'll never know.

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

With gays and straights serving together in the military, the new slogan can be, "The US Armed Forces: We Can Lick Anybody!"

Too f'ng funny.

re: #115 Killian Bundy

You mean Ian Donald Calvin Euclid Zappa? It's an interesting tale.

/It's what he wanted, Dweezil...

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

YES!

I watched the entire video with the sound off. I haven't taken my BP meds yet.

It's amazing how the nutroot libs cheered to one of their bold pussies when he blocked the silently protesting republican's buckler and tore it, and then Penn being so kind to explain it's the protester's responsibility to face the consequences (of banning freedom of speech of the non-self destructive thinking).

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

The writers' strike must be driving you nuts, Buzz.
;)

re: #158 JamesTKirk

I'm not aware of what policies they have changed to meet recruitment goals, if anything enlistment requirements seem to have been tightened up since my days in the military.The fact is that gay Americans can serve in the military albeit not openly and most serve honorably. I don't see the advantages of adopting an open policy towards what is probably only a small percentage of their potential recruitment pool.And if your desire too serve your country is that strong then I say put your sexual orientation aside for four years and get on with it.

re: #139 tripster

re: #112 MandyManners

Where's this guy when you need him?

That guy isn't very smart. I see he didn't bring his HAZMAT suit with him.

Yeah, probably didn't have his shots up-to-date, either...

JAFLW

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After having watched the video, I have to say Penn's public speaking skills are atrocious. He basically had his head down and was hunched over reading off his cards the whole time. He rarely attempted to make eye contact with his audience and basically kept it in a monotone recitation. A very boring speaker.

That's how he sounds all the time. I was in a restaurant's bar at a private party in Santa Monica once and Penn was trying to get past the doorman and his entire conversation consisted of that same monotone as he plead with the doorman to let him and his party have a drink before they were seated at the restaurant (he was refused entry). An aside: this was a party for Landmark Theatre chain before Mark Cuban owned them. I'm sure if the same situation arose now Cuban would not only permit Penn to be admitted he would most likely buy him a round of drinks.

Additionally if you have ever seen the documentary "Dogtown and Z-Boys", in which Penn narrates, you will also hear the same annoying monotone whine. His voice is completely tedious and nearly derails a fantastic film about the skateboard scene in the 1970s.

Giuliani gets grilled by Russert thats ok, he's a big boy. Hillary gets tough questions, Russert gets death threats. I miss the days we had a media worth a damn.

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

With gays and straights serving together in the military, the new slogan can be, "The US Armed Forces: We Can Lick Anybody!"

Puns like that make my fur stand on end.

I haven't got to comment in quite some time. Always late to the dance.LGF is hard to keep up with, not like to OLD OLD days. Still gets my vote for best blog...best of everything...every year. Saw in Parade mag a question about what Monica was doing lately. Seems she is over in England, and completed her masters in psychology at some economic school. The last line was the clincher. She was looking for a job over there," keeping a low profile". heh

re: #171 bulwrk

re: #158 JamesTKirk

I'm not aware of what policies they have changed to meet recruitment
goals, if anything enlistment requirements seem to have been tightened
up since my days in the military.The fact is that gay Americans can
serve in the military albeit not openly and most serve honorably. I
don't see the advantages of adopting an open policy towards what is
probably only a small percentage of their potential recruitment
pool.And if your desire too serve your country is that strong then I
say put your sexual orientation aside for four years and get on with it.

I can think of at least one Gay that served with great distinction in WWII.

re: #48 Owl

My husband will play with you. He loves Forza2 and Halo3. I'll let him know

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

science chemistry.
Fixed it for you.

Spicoli, like most actors, is only good at one thing: playing "pretend"

Actors. The original posers.

Constitution? Bahh, all I need is a tasty wave, a cool buzz and I'm fine...Oh and a socialist dictatorship would be nice too.

That guy with the signs (clever bastard) looks just like a friend of my brother's. I must commend his strength, how he could stand in that room under the crushing weight of such moonbat hypocrisy is amazing.

He stood there stoically, alone, never once uttering a word or attempting to drown-out the speaker, while from the crowd the whiners shout "Let him talk".

One needs no imagination to wonder how these folks might protest a speaker with a view-point counter to theirs, we've seen it with our own eyes one too many times. Stoicism and respect are concepts they have completely divorced themselves from.

Sean Penn: "here's how simple it is..."
even he can understand it.
can somebody give me a "Ron Paul"?
/sarc

re: #184 buzzsawmonkey

not much happening at this end of the thread , but I had to give you a "plus" for that one

My first hat tip, cool.

But I do have to give small props to Sean Penn for not going ballistic on the protester. That college republican student had the perfect plan, and pretty good signs. The reaction from the crowd is an interesting commentary on just who is stifling free speech now. I just wish some of the Iranian dissidents I met in Stockholm could have had a chance to read Penn's "reporting" on Iran for the San Francisco Chronicle, or any one of his infamous letters on Iraq. Sean Penn makes Bilal Hussein look like Keith Olberman, errr, something like that.

But as a pre-9/11 lizaroid, what happened to random cycling posts? I think Charles needs to redeem himself by making a celebrity appearance at the Tour of California or Tour de France next year.

Keep up the great work.

Whew! For a moment there I thought Penn was going to come out and endorse Ron Paul.

And once again Penn gets it all wrong, about the Constitution and Comrade Kucinich, who actually carries around his little red Communist Manifesto in his back pocket, not a copy of the U.S. Constitution.

Denis Kucinich is an outright out of the closet Socialists of the Communist persuasion. And the only reason that Dr. Paul didn't run on the DNC ticket, is that nutjob Kucinich beat him to it.

I wonder who writes Penn's speeches for him, Susan Sarandon or Tim Robbins?

re: #13 Occasional Reader

LOL! Best one ever.

If we are going to protest misguided celebidiots like Sean Penn, at least put some ear-plugs or ear-muffs for your ears to "mute" some leftist ramblings and noises in any guest-speaking environment like Sean Penn's speech appearance at SFSU.

Sean Penn is lecturing us on "da Constitution"? That's uncle Paul's domain! At least he wasn't getting paid $3000/minute, or so much for Kucinich's campaign fund.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Now that's a flying man-bear-pig!

re: #171 bulwrk

re: #158 JamesTKirk

I'm not aware of what policies they have changed to meet recruitment goals, if anything enlistment requirements seem to have been tightened up since my days in the military.The fact is that gay Americans can serve in the military albeit not openly and most serve honorably. I don't see the advantages of adopting an open policy towards what is probably only a small percentage of their potential recruitment pool.And if your desire too serve your country is that strong then I say put your sexual orientation aside for four years and get on with it.

Democrats make such a big fuss about gays in the military, but the most important thing is what to do with the military, when/where is it appropriate to use it, against whom, in which circumstances, etc. This issue pertaining such a small percentage of recruits is largely trivial. The interesting thing is that most people who would be all bleeding heart for gays to be able to openly join the military, probably align with the likes of Kos, who think the military is just a foreign-baby-killing machine to begin with! So what's the big deal about joining it...

I gotta admit, it was kind of funny when some guy got the idea to stand in front of him with another sign. Imagine if there were more protesters there - Protester is covered by counterprotester, counterprotester is covered by protester, so forth, so forth! I do object to destroying signs, it would have been ok if they'd just covered each other back and forth! :-S

Can't ... stand ... the ... the ... condescension ... in ... the... voice ... must ... find ... mute ... button.

Someone needs to tell Penn that Kucinich stopped listening to ground control, forgot to take his proteins pills and put his helmet on.

Notice that he had a contingency plan, and the lefty got removed and not he? This guy's pretty smart.

Gay rights for the military?

Whickey Tango Foxtrot!

re: #177 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #171 bulwrk

re: #158 JamesTKirk

I'm not aware of what policies they have changed to meet recruitment
goals, if anything enlistment requirements seem to have been tightened
up since my days in the military.The fact is that gay Americans can
serve in the military albeit not openly and most serve honorably. I
don't see the advantages of adopting an open policy towards what is
probably only a small percentage of their potential recruitment
pool.And if your desire too serve your country is that strong then I
say put your sexual orientation aside for four years and get on with it.

I can think of at least one Gay that served with great distinction in WWII.

Here's another: Ensign George Gay, the only survivor of Torpedo Squadron 8 at the Battle of Midway. Torpedo 8 went in low and slow with a suicidal determination that impressed even the Japanese, losing all of their Douglas Devastators without scoring any hits. While antiaircraft fire and Zeros swatted them down like flies, Dauntless dive bombers came out of nowhere, vertical and unimpeded, and filled their smoke stacks and flightdecks with thousand pounders. Tremendous sacrifice, tremendous outcome.

re: #195 tommygum

Read his book Sole Survivor. His comments on Moonbats would have been priceless.

first thing: that protester was awesome, very composed, cojones de fierro.

second thing: who would have guessed such a good actor would be such a horrible speaker?

third: the audience overall was respectful of the protester and that makes me happy.

Um, this is just a stupid as a leftist protest. Still disruptive, still destructive, still doesn't do crap.

I guess in SF, republicans are about as hippie as the leftists.

This stupidity shouldn't be given moral sanction.

If you don't like Sean Pen, then DON'T GO TO HIS LECTURE.

Ok, maybe not "destructive", but still pointless

Nice to see that the cop knew which person needed escorted out. Hope that punk got arrested for assulting that protester.

So did Sean Penn ever answer the question about the UFO?

re: #128 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #125 wanumba

re: #40 lurking faith

re: #13 Occasional Reader

Sean Penn, constitutional scholar. This is perhaps our country's greatest step forward since Charlie Sheen took up science.

Rotating title nomination!

LOL!Didn't we all get to peruse Sean Penn's attempt at prose a few years ago? He did not write that speech. It had actual sentences - start with a capital letter, must contain a subject and a verb and end with a period. If someone could find that list of Hollywood actors who dropped out of high school, plus those who never went to college or dropped out - someone complied it a while ago and it was available on the internet. It was useful to inform us ignorati of the appalling lack of education of these professional pontificators. They are truly airheads. Maybe that's why they go into acting - there's nothing inside so they effortlessly assume the qualities of whatever character is presented to them. War and international relations, diplomacy, the nuances of foreign trade, treaties, legalities, strategy, etc etc are so far above their heads, they shut down.

SO, we get a lovely scene of a man droning on about "The Constitution" while five feet away, is a man silently standing there partaking in his Constitutional right of freedom of speech, and old Sean Penn DOESN'T DEFEND THE PROTESTER'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT when a man forcibly interferes with the guy to tear down his message.
Sean, words have meaning. If you are making a speech about Constitutional rights and fail to defend a citizen - the average guy, one of the masses, the little fellow - against an abridgement of them that is occuring an arm's length from you, then shut up.

... They came for the man standing in front of me with a sign, and I did not protest ...

Well if he pushed you around and destroyed your property, then that doesn't fall under free speech

Notice who the police escorted out. I would have loved it if he had a blow up of the photo of Mr. Penn in his sinking boat during his PR try after Hurricane Katrina.

My congratulations to the young man protesting Penn for his self-possession when he was assaulted - yes, assaulted - by the goon in the white shirt.

I’m with Student of Objectivism (#198). I don’t like any form of disruption of a speech. You can protest outside. You’re making a nuisance of yourself if you’re standing up in front of people inside the lecture hall. That’s boorish. I don’t care if the leftists do it too. That’s their schtick.

Certainly, per el guapo, I admire the protester’s “cojones de hierro” but there are better ways to use your courage against your ideological enemies.