Enough money to buy a state.
/

*seconds the arrrggghhh*

Hopefully all the pledge money came from that Nigerian guy, who upon receipt of 5.6 million in 'administrative fees' will forward it to them.

how many kassams can they buy with that?

I'm sure the money will go to building a massive infrastructure.

Beating plowshares into swords.

Now if only Halliburton could grab a few rebuilding contracts...

That extra two billion will buy a lot more cigarettes for those hardest hit by the Israeli blockade.

/

Impeach Rice!

re: #5 loppyd

I'm sure the money will go to building a massive infrastructure.

I'm hoping they'll finally buy some deodorant and toothpaste.

"Take the jizya and run"

"We support all forms of aid, financial or otherwise, to the Palestinian people. But the Paris conference is coating poison with honey and is a dangerous conspiracy," Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhum said in a statement released in Gaza.

BOOGA BOOGA!

Hooray for the deaf children!
A battery for every hearing aid

and a rocket launcher for every teenager

Gee...are there any subsidies in those bills to ofset the cost of the REQUIRED bomb shelters that have to be built with every new Israeli home?

OK can someone explain this to me?

- IF the palesitinans go bankrupt, what happens? Will the world bank repo the greenhouses from bill gates? No! Nothing will happen.

- The real winner is the palestinian state, well no shit sherlock, it certainly 'aint the palestinian people's gain, as they will be in the same festering brainwash camp as always, the money will just fund the hamassholes terror campaign vs. the state of israel.

I DON'T GET IT!

Viable economy. Let's see. Since there is no actual production for civilian purposes, everything being devoted to Qassam rockets and special types of vests, how much will it take in continued donations?

3 million people, 7 billion dollars? That's a bit more than $2000 apiece. The world is going to have to pony up a lot more than that. After all, 50% of all revenue is dedicated to Qassams. That leaves far too little for the huddled masses.

Also, we must extrapolate. Israeli genocide is causing the population to increase by only 5% per year. It would otherwise be increasing at 5.0000001 percent per year. Even taking this into account, the world will be on the hook for 14 billion per year in 2020, and 28 b per year in 2035.

Cheapskates! Dig deeper!

Im just asking...WHY are Denmark donating 560 Mio to those w*nkers, who treatens and trying to kill Danish every time they have a opportunity of doing so !?!
Damnit...

re: #12 Honorary Yooper

"Take the jizya and run"

Now that I have my DSL back, I can't resist.

re: #17 lostlakehiker

And of course, 5% increase in population, isn't that a HUGE number?

/i'm no social engineering guy.

“The real winner is the Palestinian state,” French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told AFP...

unbelievable...

The real winner are those supplying armaments to those murdering bastards.

I wonder how Mrs. Abbas will be able to spend it all in Paris, just like Mrs. Arafat? I'm not implying that the Palis are corrupt, heaven forbid. I'm sure every penny will go toward creating a vibrant, dynamic economy.

And just for the record, will any of it be used in Gaza? Just for the record...just askin'.

re: #8 Iron Fist

re: #5 loppyd

I'm sure the money will go to building a massive [terrorist]infrastructure.

I'm sure that it will.

The money for those tunnels doesn't grow on trees you know!

I predict that groups like CAIR and other special interest groups are going to get a boost in Cash soon also.

grrr arrgh

Congress has to authorize the payments, right? If so, would it help if we bombard Congress not to authorize the funds?

re: #24 Egfrow

I predict that groups like CAIR and other special interest groups are going to get a boost in Cash soon also.

Such hate mongering!

re: #18 DanishMade
Danish citizens that is

I can only hope that historians will look back on this sort of thing with the same bafflement with which we view, say, the phrenology craze.

Not much comfort but the cheese eating surrender monkeys have a long history of promising big wonga at international conferences and then not paying up.

Ask the Africans.

When can Israel unplug the electricity going to Gaza? I mean, they have so much money, now, and can build their own power generators.

100,000 Qasam rockets = $7.4 billion

Killing Jews = Priceless.

Thanks Condi. Rot in hell

That should just barely cover the cost of the Radio Shack hearing aid batteries...

Is it too soon to predict another prolonged Palestinian civil war? After all, money for the West Bank won't be going to Gaza, unless it's in the form of the business end of a weapon. I'm ready to start my popcorn machine, again.

re: #31 Golem Akbar

When can Israel unplug the electricity going to Gaza? I mean, they
have so much money, now, and can build their own power generators.

Silly Golem. That would take time out of their daily rocket launching.

re: #29 Occasional Reader

I can only hope that historians will look back on this sort of thing with the same bafflement with which we view, say, the phrenology craze.

You obviously have a pronounced lump in 'organ four' to imply that phrenology is less than scientific.

I'm surprised that they didn't pledge 18 billion.

You know, because 18 is "life" in Pali Arabic.

How many rockets can this buy?

And how much to hamas?
Googling "hamas" gets these headlines:

Hamas denounces Paris donors conference
Income drops in Gaza since Hamas takeover
Abbas Says No Dialogue With Hamas; Gaza Heading For "Catastrophe"
Freed female Hamas activist calls for more kidnappings

So, hamas runs to build a strong link to China.

Can someone remind me again why we shovel endless amounts of cash to terrorists?

re: #37 EC Marm

re: #29 Occasional Reader

I can only hope that historians will look back on this sort of thing with the same bafflement with which we view, say, the phrenology craze.

You obviously have a pronounced lump in 'organ four' to imply that phrenology is less than scientific.

My crystal ball predicted you would say that.

International donors pledged 7.4 billion dollars to the Palestinians Monday at a conference described by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as the “last hope” to save their government from bankruptcy.

And (of coarse) Israel will be blamed if they continue to exist in their status quo.

Israel urged to ease Palestine controls (12/13/07)

The World Bank warned that unless Israel removes some of the physical and administrative obstacles to Palestinian travel and trade, donor countries asked to pledge $5.6 billion at a conference in Paris next week may be wasting their money.

I’m reduced to a simple, “Aaarrrggghhh.”

Welcome to my world...

re: #43 RTLM

International donors pledged 7.4 billion dollars to the Palestinians Monday at a conference described by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as the “last hope” to save their government from bankruptcy.

And (of coarse) Israel will be blamed if they continue to exist in their status quo.

Israel urged to ease Palestine controls (12/13/07)

The World Bank warned that unless Israel removes some of the physical and administrative obstacles to Palestinian travel and trade, donor countries asked to pledge $5.6 billion at a conference in Paris next week may be wasting their money.

Travel = Car full of Palis
Trade = Palistinian body parts or Jewish lives.

I see "our plan" is working perfectly.

The Zionist oppressors will soon be driven into the sea.

Did I say there was no Axis of Evil?

Thank you Mike Huckabee!

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

FOR Jewish lives. = PIMF

We are struggling to give aid to developing countries. You know, the ones that do not engage in terrorism abroad and who actually are at peace with its neighbours (whom they have not tried to mass murder). But we can find all this amount for terrorists? There are not enough expletives in the world to express my annoyance about this.

Moral of the story: If you want to get more money from EU (and USA) than you sought for originally, you have to be ready to kill civilians. Preferably Jews.

Abbas can retire to the Riviera in nice style.

Terrorists don't need to put on Bomb belts to do damage to our Society. They just need more lawyers.

They wanted $5 billion and change.

They got nearly 50% more than that in pledges.

We got screwed.

The only thing thankfully missing from my daily reports on the ME is a kassam terrorist attack against Israel. That would have been the cherry on top of this mess. Of course, there's a few hours left in the day for the Palestinian terrorists to do just that.

However, Israel killed a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist in an airstrike, which means that the kassams are likely to be flying any moment; the seething will be imminent; as will the claims for Israel to stop any actions that might be perceived as being threatening or demeaning - like constructing housing on Israeli territory.

Rudy Giuliani Opposes Palestinian State

Israel National News reported that "former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani has bucked the party line of successive US administrations and come out against the establishment of a Palestinian State." They added that he "warned against the push by President George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to establish a state in Judea & Samaria ruled by Fatah."

These comments by Giuliani were made in the September/October issue of the journal Foreign Affairs. Giuliani also said that "it is not in the interests of the United States at a time when it is being threatened by Islamist terrorists, to assist in the creation of another state that will support terrorism." Giuliani said Palestinians must show "a clear commitment to fighting terrorism, and willingness to live in peace with Israel." He argued that the problem for Palestinians was not a "lack of statehood" but good governance and that too much emphasis had been placed on Israeli-Palestinian talks which just brought up the same issues "again and again."

President Rudy now!

re: #6 Mich-again

Beating plowshares into swords.bombs.

there ya go.l

"From now on, I'll send two letters a week instead of one."

re: #18 DanishMade

Im just asking...WHY are Denmark donating 560 Mio to those w*nkers, who treatens and trying to kill Danish every time they have a opportunity of doing so !?!
Damnit...

"Hush" money, maybe?

This is why I am so hesitant to donate to 'charities'...You all have to know that the money gets funneled to terrorists in one form or another.

I'll take terrorists for $200, Alex

The real winner is the Palestinian state

Pledging $7.6B is a far cry from writing a check. Especially with this bunch.

Wanna bet on who actually pays?

re: #21 maddogg

“The real winner is the Palestinian state,” French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told AFP...

unbelievable...

The real winner are those supplying armaments to those murdering bastards.

No the real winner is the Swiss Banks were the majority of the funds will ultimately end up!

It's only logical. I mean, Oslo resulted in the Palis being the largest per-capita foreign aid recipients in the world, and look how well that turned out! So why not do it again?

Arlene Kushner in venting about this notes that most $ will go to mismanagement, as had previous $, noting for example that Oslo stipulated Palestinian Authority security forces were supposed to have only 30,000 people on its payroll, but it ended up being 80,000!

Wonder how long it'll take them to blow through this money? And when they do, they will seethe and whine and blame everybody else for the fact that they're broke...again.

/Sheesh!

re: #37 EC Marm

re: #29 Occasional Reader

I can only hope that historians will look back on this sort of thing with the same bafflement with which we view, say, the phrenology craze.

You obviously have a pronounced lump in 'organ four' to imply that phrenology is less than scientific.

Actually I read something recently about the phrenologists having gotten exactly one thing more or less right; a positive correlation between head size and intelligence (on average).

re: #56 Oh no...Sand People!

This is why I am so hesitant to donate to 'charities'...You all have to know that the money gets funneled to terrorists in one form or another.

Not all charities.

re: #52 Killgore Trout

My support for Rudy had been flagging lately. Until I read your post.

re: #57 Mr Spiffy

We quit giving to all but those charities and basically give only to the Salvation Army, the ARC, and the local youth ranch. You never know who will funnel your generosity to those that want to kill us. I have to agree with ARGHHH as a good response to this news.

Manhattan project 2 billion (1943 dollars), 23 bil adjusted.

Since all the expensive stuff is taken care of 5.6 should be more than enough.

It would appear that being world class beggars is about about the only thing that isn't an insult to islam.

50,000 AK-47s: $5M
Assorted rocket parts and propellant: $200,000
Letting the world know how you really feel about Peace with Israel...
Priceless

re: #65 Occasional Reader

Rudy's not doing well in the polls. I'm not sure what's going on.

7.5 billion to the Palestinians.

Hey Moonbats, that is the real conspiracy you should be sniffing out. Big money from governments going to "Climate Change" and "terrorists". It shouldn't be hard to find out how the money flows because it's out in the open and smeared in all our faces.

Hmmm- what shall we call these conspiracies? The "Pal" network and
"Cli-mange" syndrome?

Hugh @ Jihadwatch rants;

$500 million?

That's a half day's revenues for Saudi Arabia. That's it?

And what about Kuwait, the U.A.E., Qatar, Libya, and all the other Muslim oil states that have done nothing to deserve their fabulous wealth?

It is a great error for any Infidel state or people to supply what is seen, by Muslim recipients, and soon after comes to be treated by the Infidel donors themselves, as the due of the Muslims, owed to them by the Infidels -- in other words, a classic payment of the Jizyah.

It is madness. It infuriates. If Congress can stop this "donation" (as it is piously called) it should.

Presidential candidates of both parties should make an issue of this, the product of ignorance of Islam, the attitudes of Islam, including the triumphalism, and the desire to everywhere force Infidels to pay, in whatever form, that Jizyah (if those Infidels wish to save face by calling it "foreign aid" the Muslims don't care -- they know that the Infidels are too scared to deny Muslims this aid, and though there was a brief, uncharacteristic halt, but only to the aid to the "Palestinians" and not to Egypt, Pakistan, or that being lavished on corrupt Iraqis,the spigot has been turned on again, and the "Protected People" have tugged at their forelocks in Paris.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and John Edwards have as much right as Romney and Giuliani and Huckabee and the others to ask aloud why the Americans, having contributed more than a trillion dollars to Iraq, and hundreds of billions to Afghanistan, and $60 billion to Egypt, and $27 billion (the figure calculated by Selig Harrison) to Pakistan since 2001 alone, and billions to the "Palestinian Authority" along with other billions sent by the Europeans, many of those billions having disappeared, without a trace, when Arafat died. Where are those billions? And why is it that the "Palestinians," who have received, per capita, more than any other group, in aid, in history, should continue to receive that aid, above all when the Slow Jihad boys have semaphored or said, in every forum, that they have no intention of making a permanent peace but only a hudna, a hudna to be accompanied by demands so grotesque, so dangerous for Israel's survival, that they can never be met, and so the reason for the future breaching of that "truce treaty" is already contained in the proposals now being made?

When, that is, will the Infidels of threatened Europe begin to realize that they are no different from, just a little further down on the To-Do List, threatened Israel?

How horrible that, with ten trillion dollars having been transferred, since 1973 alone, from oil-consuming nations to the Muslim oil states, that still more billions and tens and hundreds of billions, are spent by the profligate and ignorant and timid West, in the mistaken hope that "poverty" is what makes the "Palestinians" or any other Muslm Arabs insistent on waging war. It is not "poverty." It is Islam.

The Infidels refuse to take Islam seriously. This incredible offer shows it. Utter folly. It disgusts. It maddens.

Couldn't have said it better.

Given the cost of labor in Gaza and the West Bank, for $7.4 billion, it should be possible to:

- Fix the sewers and waste disposal in Gaza: $200 million
- Build 4 electric power generation plants @ $250million each
- Buy fuel for the next 5 years: $300 million
. . . . (naturally, there will be an Iranian & Saudi discount)
- Build 10 hospitals @ $100million each
- Build 5 universities @ $200million each
- Refurbish 100 existing schools @ $10 million each
- Build 20 high schools @ $50million each
- Build 50 primary/elementary schools @ $20million each
- Restore/Redevelop existing agriculture to 1995 levels: $900million
. . . . (this means more than refurbishing ONE greenhouse)

Total: $7.4 billion

Everything adds up nicely, no room for excuses as to why something was not built.

These are the things that the Palestinians scream for.

Let’s see just how much of this gets done.

Not in my name!

I hope the whole 7.4 billion drops in the ocean, lost to everyone...

I think they're over the salary cap, and draft picks may be forfeioted. Oh wait, that's the Knicks.

re: #73 Arbalest

Given the cost of labor in Gaza and the West Bank, for $7.4 billion, it should be possible to:

- Fix the sewers and waste disposal in Gaza: $200 million
- Build 4 electric power generation plants @ $250million each
- Buy fuel for the next 5 years: $300 million
. . . . (naturally, there will be an Iranian & Saudi discount)
- Build 10 hospitals @ $100million each
- Build 5 universities @ $200million each
- Refurbish 100 existing schools @ $10 million each
- Build 20 high schools @ $50million each
- Build 50 primary/elementary schools @ $20million each
- Restore/Redevelop existing agriculture to 1995 levels: $900million
. . . . (this means more than refurbishing ONE greenhouse)

Total: $7.4 billion

Everything adds up nicely, no room for excuses as to why something was not built.

These are the things that the Palestinians scream for.

Let’s see just how much of this gets done.

Instead of just doling out the cash to these people, we should give them vouchers to have the work done by companies from the donating countries. Companies could bid on these vouchers, making it competitive and more cost- efficient.

All we do is perpetuate the victim mentality by handing out cash and not expecting results.

Anyone interested in creating a formal opposition to this? Maybe a "Stop the Seven Billion Foundation"? Please? Before I vomit?

re: #78 davidari

Anyone interested in creating a formal opposition to this? Maybe a "Stop the Seven Billion Foundation"? Please? Before I vomit?

WE all know it's going to be spent on Qassams or more of those elementary schools with mortar emplacements.

Since Condi calls it the "last hope" does that mean that when this latest attempt at a Palestinian "state" goes in the toilet, we can formally give up hope?

I'm thinking I need to start a country whose goal will be...Kill Amerikans and Jooos (and yahoodi whores). Does anyone know how much I might be able to get from the US State Dept for this idea? I'm willing to go to USIAD or the SBA, but I'm pretty sure that Condi and I can come with up with a deal that will get the Europeans to pony up.

Let's do the math...

7.4 x 10^9/4.0 x 10^6 = $1850 for each Palestinian

Now, if this were actually the case, that the money would go to individuals for starting businesses, buying food, cultivating the land, promoting culture other than violence then maybe this would be a good thing...

However, we all know that every single penny of this HORRIFYINGLY LARGE OVERPAYMENT will go to buy Kassam Rockets, AK-47's, RPG's, IED's, Bomb Belts, and God knows what other weapons.

Well, maybe not every single penny...Just like Arafat took a big chunk of the money and hid it, someone else is probably licking their chops to do the same here...just a matter of how much...

Laup Nor's donors has nothing on Hamas!

Just out of curiosity. What are the implications if this "state" goes into bankruptcy? Will the state of affairs get any more chaotic than they are at present? Will the average citizen suffer any more or less? Will there be fewer or more rockets flying into Israel?
Sometimes prolonging the eventual demise of a body creates more suffering than just letting it go.

re: #31 Golem Akbar

When can Israel unplug the electricity going to Gaza? I mean, they have so much money, now, and can build their own power generators.

Yeah, but they don't have the competence to keep it running properly.

The Jews do a better job. I mean, if you were running a Kassam rocket factory, and the lights kept going out, how would you meet your production quota? Better to just let the Jews provide the electricity.

Is there a Mercedes dealership in Nablus yet? Just checking.

re: #82 mad_scientist

Let's do the math...

7.4 x 10^9/4.0 x 10^6 = $1850 for each Palestinian

Now, if this were actually the case, that the money would go to individuals for starting businesses, buying food, cultivating the land, promoting culture other than violence then maybe this would be a good thing...

However, we all know that every single penny of this HORRIFYINGLY LARGE OVERPAYMENT will go to buy Kassam Rockets, AK-47's, RPG's, IED's, Bomb Belts, and God knows what other weapons.

Well, maybe not every single penny...Just like Arafat took a big chunk of the money and hid it, someone else is probably licking their chops to do the same here...just a matter of how much...

Presumably some of the budget will go to tunneling operations to send islamobombers under the "apartheid fence".

Palenstine is a bigger financial burden than the Jackson Neverland Ranch (might be a good name for this ficticious country). I say stop making payments and let it go into foreclosure.

I'm sure not a single penny will go to any terroist related activities.
/sarc

re: #87 funkyfantom

I wish they would just tunnel to the center of the earth

re: #72 Terp Mole

Hugh @ Jihadwatch rants;

$500 million? That's a half day's revenues for Saudi Arabia. That's it?

And what about Kuwait, the U.A.E., Qatar, Libya, and all the other Muslim oil states that have done nothing to deserve their fabulous wealth?

It is a great error for any Infidel state or people to supply what is seen, by Muslim recipients, and soon after comes to be treated by the Infidel donors themselves, as the due of the Muslims, owed to them by the Infidels -- in other words, a classic payment of the Jizyah.

It is madness. It infuriates. If Congress can stop this "donation" (as it is piously called) it should.

Presidential candidates of both parties should make an issue of this, the product of ignorance of Islam, the attitudes of Islam, including the triumphalism, and the desire to everywhere force Infidels to pay, in whatever form, that Jizyah (if those Infidels wish to save face by calling it "foreign aid" the Muslims don't care -- they know that the Infidels are too scared to deny Muslims this aid, and though there was a brief, uncharacteristic halt, but only to the aid to the "Palestinians" and not to Egypt, Pakistan, or that being lavished on corrupt Iraqis,the spigot has been turned on again, and the "Protected People" have tugged at their forelocks in Paris.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and John Edwards have as much right as Romney and Giuliani and Huckabee and the others to ask aloud why the Americans, having contributed more than a trillion dollars to Iraq, and hundreds of billions to Afghanistan, and $60 billion to Egypt, and $27 billion (the figure calculated by Selig Harrison) to Pakistan since 2001 alone, and billions to the "Palestinian Authority" along with other billions sent by the Europeans, many of those billions having disappeared, without a trace, when Arafat died. Where are those billions? And why is it that the "Palestinians," who have received, per capita, more than any other group, in aid, in history, should continue to receive that aid, above all when the Slow Jihad boys have semaphored or said, in every forum, that they have no intention of making a permanent peace but only a hudna, a hudna to be accompanied by demands so grotesque, so dangerous for Israel's survival, that they can never be met, and so the reason for the future breaching of that "truce treaty" is already contained in the proposals now being made?

When, that is, will the Infidels of threatened Europe begin to realize that they are no different from, just a little further down on the To-Do List, threatened Israel?

How horrible that, with ten trillion dollars having been transferred, since 1973 alone, from oil-consuming nations to the Muslim oil states, that still more billions and tens and hundreds of billions, are spent by the profligate and ignorant and timid West, in the mistaken hope that "poverty" is what makes the "Palestinians" or any other Muslm Arabs insistent on waging war. It is not "poverty." It is Islam.

The Infidels refuse to take Islam seriously. This incredible offer shows it. Utter folly. It disgusts. It maddens.

Couldn't have said it better.

The interesting thing is that if the Gulf state arabs actually cared about the "helpless" Palis - you would expect them to hire some - but of course no Pali would ever work at the wages Gulf state Arabs offer.

And in the Palestinian state of Jordan, the sweatshops are all manned by Pakistanis and Bangladeshis - again- Palestinians won't work for
factory wages.

I believe that at one point there were some Palestinians working in the gulf states, but they were tossed out as troublemakers.

Washington Institute for Near East Policy

fair use --
For all their statements on behalf of their Palestinian Arab brethren and how important the peace issue is to progress on other regional fronts, the Gulf Arabs have contributed very little financially to the Palestinians in recent years. According to World Bank officials, the annual Saudi contribution to the Palestinian Authority has been $84 million for most of this decade, while the other Gulf countries have given less or nothing at all. Despite their joint pledge of $660 million per year at an emergency Arab League summit in 2002, when oil prices were a fraction of what they are today, little has actually happened. Similarly, a Saudi promise last year to provide $300-$500 million was never fulfilled, according to U.S. and Arab officials.
The shortage of Gulf aid to the Palestinians certainly does not result from a lack of wealth, which has reached staggering proportions due to the quadrupling of oil prices since 2002. According to the U.S. Department of Energy and the IMF, oil revenue for the six Gulf Cooperation Council states (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, and Bahrain) should reach about $400 billion this year, half of it belonging to the Saudis. This would make their joint contribution to the Palestinians only 0.04 percent of their annual oil revenues. Adding to that wealth is their cumulative current account surplus since 2003, which will reach $700 billion this year.

Great! Now they can afford to get all those basic necessities of like like tobacco, chocolate and compressed air for soft drinks, that those dirty Jooos™ won't let them have!

/sarc

basic necessities of life

PIMF.

#53 lawhawk

However, Israel killed a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist in an airstrike, which means that the kassams are likely to be flying any moment; the seething will be imminent; as will the claims for Israel to stop any actions that might be perceived as being threatening or demeaning - like constructing housing on Israeli territory.

Car swarm in 5-4-3-2-1 :)

I put up a posting on the forum [Link: forums.mirror.co.uk...] criticising this aid given to the Palestinians, stating that this money will only be used to purchase rockets, guns and explosives which will be used to murder innocent Israelis. I pointed out that they will not be grateful for this money, that they will see it as jizya or protection money, to be expected from 'inferior infidels', and reminded them of those greenhouses that were left to the Palestinians, how they were looted for anything of value, and that they were used as starting points for tunnelling into Israel and using these tunnels to smuggle terrorists, weapons and suicide bombers into Israel, and that giving them aid is simply throwing good money after bad, and the one thing that does keep terrorism down is poverty, because poverty means they have less to invest in terrorism, and pointed out that bullets cost the Palestinians 35 cents apiece before we started giving them aid, and nowadays bullets cost them a mere two cents apiece, and let them know that I resented the idea of our taxes financing terrorism and being used to potentially bring about another Holocaust, resented the fact that we are giving our taxes to those who celebrated atrocities like 911, London, Madrid etc and that the Palestinians seek not peace but the destruction of the state of Israel, and mentioned the fact that Palestinian TV stations pour out anti-Jewish and anti-Western hatred and encourage attacks on us. Needless to say, my posting lasted around 30 minutes before it was pulled. Such is political correctness in the West. Presumably had the Internet and the politically correct oafs of today been around in 1940, postings criticising the Nazis would also have been pulled.

Just proves the old adage - for every time the French screw the West, another bomber gets his vest.

I agree with you Charles...

AAARGH!

You have to "love" the "if at 12th it does work, try it the exact same way again" policy of dealing with the Arab-Israel Conflict.

Anyone taking bets on how this is going to turn out?

If the Pallys were smart, they would say they are working on a cure for global warming. Then they would get 7.4 trillion dollars.

6 billion is apparently budgeted to search for and destroy all the quarquad trees in Gaza and the 'west bank'.

I wonder why, though . . .

Absolutely disgusting.

The best thing the world can do for these Palestinians is to cut them off.

As long as they keep getting handouts, they're going to squander them, as they have for the last 40 years.

At what point does the world let them stand on their own?

re: #85 funkyfantom

re: #31 Golem Akbar

When can Israel unplug the electricity going to Gaza? I mean, they have so much money, now, and can build their own power generators.

Yeah, but they don't have the competence to keep it running properly.

$7 Billion buys a lot of competent help.
It can also buy lots of guards to protect that help.

But you gotta read the fine print here.

Global donors PLEDGED $7B, that doesn't mean they are going to actually deliver it.

My understanding is the last time the Arab states pledged Billions to the Palis, they didn't deliver either.

re: #62 Barking Pumpkin

"Wonder how long it'll take them to blow through up this money?

Fixed it for ya.

Morons and now that Chirac is gone Rice is the head moron.

I guess the Palestinian economy really took a hit when we stopped Saddam's payments to families who blew up their children. The suicide bomber vest market may never be the same.

If I call myself a Palestinian, can I get at least 50k to pay off my college loans (after taxes) ?

I mean... at least if it goes to me, it goes to a better cause than those who believe the Jews have a special earthquake machine.

re: #77 gman

That's actually a great idea.

The typical American family has to figure out a budget to determine how they'll spend the money they get each month...how much for rent, how much for utilities, how much for food, etc. If they're lucky, they'll have some left for clothing, entertainment, and so on.

I can picture the lads at Hamas headquarters going through the same process:

How much for Qassam rockets...how much for explosive vests...how much for 7.62x39 ammunition to replace the stuff we keep shooting into the air...how much for virulently anti-Jewish propaganda...

...and somehow I doubt they'll have any left over for rebuilding infrastructure or buying food for their people.

re: #109 Ceemack

I think the better question is...why do Americans have to go to sleep at night cold, and hungry on the street when our Government (not here but everywhere else) gives other Countries, that don't share our values, and are actively working toward our demise, get windfall payments of millions of dollars?

The Europeans should be asking the same thing...

Lets do some math. $7.1 billion divided by 3.8 million pales in Gaza and West Bank gives $1,843 each.

That means each palestinian man, women, and child can each get 2 AK-47s with 1300 rounds of ammo. Or a rocket propelled grenade launcher and 6 rockets. Or 9 suicide-murder vests in different styles--one for each day of the week and two for Ramadan.

Its a tough decision. I am sure Iranian ARMS dealers are putting sales brochures together tonight.

Of course, most of the Gazans money will go to the local mosques that spew hatred of the West that is donating the money. What a warm feeling.

Wow, 7.4 billion dollars. Good thing they didn't want any real money. Good thing they didn't insist on being paid in Euros...we would be truly broke.

I am almost in favor of inflation now!

From CAMERA: Foreign Aid and Palestinian Violence: An Uncomfortable Correlation
Check out the graphs at the link.

re: #113 SeafoodGumbo

That is something that Charles needs to see. Would make a great front page *update*.

Donors who gave out money to the Palestinian "cause" are suckers. In the worst possible way.

The sooner the money is squandered the sooner these feel-good types will come to the realization that throwing money at this "problem" is a black hole. Maybe then money will go where its really going to do some good.

Isn't it funny how, over time, an individual can plummet in one's estimation?

cough*condi*cough

And the real loser is everyone else.
Everyone, except the terrorists, who pocket the money, invest in Paris and London mansions, and live the good life, until they die of aids or worse...oh wait a moment...I remember airfish already died...we have already ran this movie.

One article made clear(this was MSM) that the money would be used for "back payments"(for the bloated gov't) and only then will anything else be done(right!). One article at the bottom mentioned that Egypt closed its border with Gaza- even that was surprising since we know that the closing of the borders is Israel's fault; why, the Arabs love the Palis - that is why they constantly support them financially and welcome them as citizens in their countries- oh, wait, they don't.

Anyone post the car swarm around the Islamic Jihad car that was bombed today. I don't get it- what are they all doing around the bombed out car- hoping to pick up change?, CDs that didn't get destroyed?

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re: #65 Occasional Reader

Rudy's not doing well in the polls. I'm not sure what's going on.

USA Today/Gallup

Nationally: Rudy 27, Huckabee 16, Romney 14, Fred 14, McCain 14; Hillay 45, Obama 27, Edwards 15 (ht: RCP).

My impression that NRO and others are so eager to push Romney instead of Rudy, that they will get Huckabee and will have nobody to blame but themselves. Only two people among Republicans are inspiring, Huck and Rudy, though for different reasons, so when NRO is trying to bury Rudy, they are getting not Romney, but Huckabee.

re: #120 finallyhere

Lieberman endorsed McCain today fwiw.

Now THIS is what I call being stuck on stupid! A lot of people want to blame Condoleezza Rice for this but she's just the mouthpiece for the foreign policy of the Bush administration. She doesn't say anything unless the Administration approves of what she has to say. Rice isn't the main person at fault here. The main person at fault is our president,as much as it pains me to say it.

While 7.4 billion dollars makes the Palestinian state a winner it makes everyone else a loser. Stop supporting them and maybe they will get jobs and lose their interest in terrorism.

The sickest part is that they "only"wanted 5.6 billion dollars. I wonder what the "extra" money will go to better bombs anyone or possably just abbas' pocket.

A desenting voice: in the long term giving them money may not be a bad thing per se: when they use them to acquire enough weapons, the carpet bombing may become justified. Besides weapons have a tendency to get surrendered, more so then a real estate.

My only consolation is that this fund-raising will be largely symbolic pledges of solidarity and that whatever money does go the Palestinians way will be siphoned off for more worthy Palestinian officials' Swiss bank account causes.

I knew it would all come to this back in 1965. When I saw some sloppy little pig of a kid in McDonalds yelling and screaming for another cheeseburger, even though half of one was still dripping disgustedly down his little cowboy shirt. And mom, eyes glazed over kept going on in that monotone, "no I am not going to get you another cheeseburger," all in that sort of "I am already dead, and everyone around me wishes my womb had died ten years ago."

So little cowboy darling kicking and screaming, not only gets his cheeseburger but also a choc malt, the rest of us get to watch this prototype ogre stuff his pathetic face again, all hoping the cooks slipped some very painful rat poision into the meat, but in this unjust world no such luck. Pathetic mom...probably rejected from a BORG whorehouse as being too zombie like, will probably produce more "precious little johnnies," who's only purpose is to eat up all the resouces of the earth in the most noisy way possible. Well, anyway that is my philosopy of the Paleo, Jewish conflict...Rice (as all Western Diplomats) play the crack-addled whore that can do nothing except produce one voracious "Johnny." after another.

Further proof that a liberal and his money are soon parted.

re: #1 turn

While I agree with the ARRGH sentiments, it reminds me of a story my Rabbi told.
"You heard the one about the foolish bank robber?
He robbed the synagogue and was caught with $1 million in pledges."