WaPo's been a joke since post-Watergate 30 years ago.

Disgraceful

I'm not happy with a lot of Condi's actions lately but that is just uncalled for. Real classy WaPo!

Vile

Another Paper of Wreckers

Projection is a bitch.

Yeah, well.

I'm waiting for a couple posters here, who never fail to bash Condi in terms I find irritating, to disagree.

They must post ATS.

Well, obviously that statement was taken out of context

/MSM apologist

The WaPo won't even police the comments of their own staff.

We'll understand it all by and by. Waiting for my turn.

I can't decide what's more troubling, the fact that we *all* know this was an intentional fire to destroy evidence in Cheney's office or the fact that there are some idiots out there who will believe the "accidental" story.

He also believes the World Trade Center was an inside job!

/freaking cabbage heads.

culminating in this lovely little gem of leftist racism, which has garnered six recommendations:

You're right -- Condi would never drop her crack pipe! She clutches it tight, like a true crack ho!

/SARC!

/Charles, didn't you get the memo: it's OK to be totally racist if the person you're attacking is perceived as a conservative.

Tancredo Expected to Quit GOP Presidential Race Tomorrow

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #11 usmc1968

I asked on previous thread - But first, Thank you for your service. If you don't mind my asking, who were you with?

Ah, yes....another reminder of the elite media's soft bigotry of low expectations and integrity that hovers right around the null set.

re: #14 storagemanager

Tancredo Expected to Quit GOP Presidential Race Tomorrow

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Was Tancredo running for President?

Um, can you blame the writer of the article for the comments random people post if it is an open forum? How can you say "'Hypocrisy' doesn’t even begin to describe Kurtz’s article" when you are going after what readers wrote, not Kutz?

A nice collection of full-throated BDS in all its ragged glory. Its a good thing we have enlightened progressives like these to lead us!

Understand, the L³eft aren't hypocrites. We say vile harsh things sometimes against our Mohammedan enemies. The WashPost's commenters are saying vile harsh things against their Republican enemies.

Kurtz just agrees with his side.

is "rabbitman" really Garry Trudeau?

After he cartooned Condi a fat-lipped street whore, I figure this is right up his alley.

Howard Kurtz

re: #13 zombie

I'm sure she doesn't do crack, but not sure on the conservative!

The LLL is about control. Their control of you.

So, Howard Kurtz thinks I'm vile coz I post at LGF? Oh no, dear Lord, I cant take it any longer, I'm gunna throw myself out the window..........

re: #5 chinesearithmetic

Another Paper of Wreckers

It's not the WhyPoo for nuthin'.

re: #18 justiceforall

Um, can you blame the writer of the article for the comments random people post if it is an open forum? How can you say "'Hypocrisy' doesn’t even begin to describe Kurtz’s article" when you are going after what readers wrote, not Kutz?

Um, because they blame Charles for comments in his forum.

notabeliever wrote:
WOW-That was more smoke than building #7, lucky it didn't come crashing down on top of itself.
12/19/2007 2:52:55 PM
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one of the more disgusting comments

re: #15 Cap'n DOC

26th Marine Regiment. Kilo Company.

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel,

Don't take it too hard. You should see the kind of people he likes. Sometimes it is good to be known by your enemies.

re: #29 usmc1968

Khe Sahn?

I only bought the Washington Post on Sunday for the ads and coupons. That was back when Giant Foods would double the value of the coupons; I would save more on my grocery bill then the cost of the newspaper. (Plus, I liked the book review section.)
// {;-)™

re: #18 justiceforall

Um, can you blame the writer of the article for the comments random people post if it is an open forum? How can you say "'Hypocrisy' doesn’t even begin to describe Kurtz’s article" when you are going after what readers wrote, not Kutz?

Thats exactly what Kurtz did in the first place and he has never retracted. Kurtz attacked based on comments not content, attempting to appear as if WaPo was a shining tower of purity in comparison. Comments like that on WaPo prove Kurtz is full of crap.

Maybe Condi dropped her crack pipe

That's not necessarily racist, IMO.

It's actually quite funny. It would explain some of the crazy foreign policy positions we're seeing.

I just don't think she would be caught dead in, or be invited to, Cheny's office.

OT -- but relevant overall...

Does anyone know what is with leaving a comment at Brietbart? I tried to leave a comment over there on the (Hamas crybaby article from earlier thread). I dutifully filled in my name and email address, typed in my comment and then carefully put in the verifiying combo of numbers and letters. I then got a page that said "slow down, you are commenting too fast". I just went back over there and cannot even see where there are any comments posted. I wished I had taken a screen shot, but did not. Anyone with any ideas?

re: #34 Maine's Michael

Maybe Condi dropped her crack pipe

That's not necessarily racist, IMO .

Of course, because no one associates crack usage with any particular race.

re: #34 Maine's Michael

At least no one can accuse you of hypocrisy.

re: #7 Dianna

I didn't want to dissapoint you.

Let's not forget Condi is a Republican, and so not really a "good negro."

re: #38 Maine's Michael

You didn't.

I don't know what it is with you. You can be perfectly rational, except when it comes to Rice. I just don't understand you.

re: #31 Cap'n DOC

10-4

I have seen 'Put down the crack pipe' as a put down towards people making crazy statements or judgements.

re: #34 Maine's Michael

"That's not necessarily racist, IMO ."

You'e joking, right?

re: #41 usmc1968

re: #31 Cap'n DOC

10-4

My respects, sir!

Testing from my phone. Does this work?

re: #41 usmc1968

I was with Kilo on Haivan Pass in '69. God Bless you and your brothers for keeping my sorry ass in one piece.

re: #34 Maine's Michael

Frankly- with her handling of Israel and the "peace process", I'm having a hard time getting worked up over this. I know I should be outraged, but she's made a bed.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Testing from my phone. Does this work?

You're breaking up.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Testing from my phone. Does this work?

Lot of static. You need to gain altitude or walk towards a cell tower.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Don't LGF and drive!

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Which phone?

BTW, it came through.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Yup, but you're cracking me up.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Which model of phone? The dreaded iPhone?

That smell is getting stronger.

Charles is such a genius. LGF even works from a cell phone. Posting from a posh restaurant. My date is late. Hope I don't get stood up.

re: #40 Dianna

I'm not going to give St. Condi of the Amalekites a 'pass' just because she's a woman, a black, or wears high boots.

I just don;t believe in affirmative action. Certainly not when it results in an incompetent being placed into a position of critical importance.

Not only is she a Baker acolyte and saudi moll, she is also graceless, inept, and rude in her dealings, along with being incompetent even on the goals she does get behind.

FYI I have stated similar about her boss, who apparently works for the boss of bosses, James Baker.

re: #46 Pro-Bush Canuck

Testing from my phone. Does this work?

Louder.

OT

In the South Korean presidential election, the conservatives winners with Lee getting the vote, ending a few decades of liberal control in that country. See this.

My wife teaches English to several Korean politicians, one of whom happens to be a very famous and powerful liberal leader that seems to be after President-Elect Lee. Personally, I approve of his conservative stance, pro-America and anti-communist policies. Looks like most of the Korean voters do too. Interesting how France and now Korea are telling the liberals to stick it.

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Howard Kurtz thinks I'm vile coz I post at LGF? Oh no, dear Lord, I cant take it any longer, I'm gunna throw myself out the window..........

You do know...
Basement windows don't count.
// {;-)™

So, if a commenter made a derogatory comment about Kurtz in the comments section of one of his own articles, WaPo wouldn't police it?

Really?

re: #30 Iron Fist

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel,

Don't take it too hard. You should see the kind of people he likes. Sometimes it is good to be known by your enemies.

No prob, I'm back. I forgot I'm on the ground floor.

re: #61 Da_Beerfreak

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Howard Kurtz thinks I'm vile coz I post at LGF? Oh no, dear Lord, I cant take it any longer, I'm gunna throw myself out the window..........

You do know...
Basement windows don't count.
// {;-)™

Close, (LOL)

OT:

Ron Paul is keeping the White Supremist's contributions

There is no doubt on God's Green Earth that the "crack pipe" comment was racist. Anyone who claims otherwise is either completely foolish or racist themselves. Or a "liberal" like Ted Rall.

[Link: mhking.mu.nu...]

re: #56 Charles

That smell is getting stronger.

What th'? Troll?

I wouldn't call myself vile, evil maybe but not vile. I mean a mutant hamster army doesn't build itself under the Denver International Airport by itself. The technology to build effective and light weight chainsaw/flamethrowers wasn't exactly out of love and good intentions. Though I do take pride and joy out my work to give my Lizard Masters and the Elders of Zion an army worthy of Genghis Khan. It doesn't make me vile.

re: #45 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you, I really appreciate that. Not many thanks in the last 39 years.

re: #57 Pro-Bush Canuck

Charles is such a genius. LGF even works from a cell phone. Posting from a posh restaurant. My date is late. Hope I don't get stood up.

In #56, Charles said the smell is getting stronger. Does your phone have some sort of aroma receptors?

Mr. Kurz, you are a knucklehead.

See, I did it. I committed a heinous, vile post.

re: #49 Sharmuta

Frankly- with her handling of Israel and the "peace process", I'm having a hard time getting worked up over this. I know I should be outraged, but she's made a bed.

Don't forget that when she is handling the 'peace process', it is as directed by President Bush, yet another President falling victim to end-of-2nd-term-concerned-about-my-legacy-itis.

The smell of nodrog . . .

NAME WHO IS LINKED TO ALL OF THESE THINGS?

Web Hubbel
Janet Reno
Mike Espy
Craig Livingstone
Charlie Trie
John Huang
Johnny Chung
James Riady
Mochtar Riady
The Lippo Group
The Loral Corporation
Susan McDougal
Vince Foster
Sally Perdue
Juanita Broaddrick
Gennifer Flowers
Kathleen Willey
Monica Lewinsky
Filegate
Travelgate
Cattlegate
White House Coffeegate
Nannygate (Zoe Baird)
The Buddhist Temple
"No controlling legal authority"
Selling the Lincoln bedroom
Selling seats on Air Force One
Vandalizing of the White House
Looting of the White House
Pardongate
$200.00 haircuts
What is "is"
"I never touched her, that woman..."
Perjury
Suborning Perjury
Obstructing justice
forfiture of Law License.

re: #66 DogCatcher

Oh, give me a break.

I'm registered with the Post, and its comments sections are infamous. Literally any subject matter will be clumsily linked to Bush and/or Jooooos within 10 comments. It's unbelievable.

But nothing will ever trump the stunt they pulled with Esam "I Was a Teen-Aged Jihadi" Omeish, one of the directors of the unbelievably radical Wahhabi mosque in Falls Church, VA, (of 2 of the 9/11 hijackers fame), who was busted on Youtube largely thanks to LGF a few months ago participating in pro-Hezbollah rallies in D.C. As a consequence, he was booted off one of Virginia Gov. Kaine's legendarily pointless multicultural engagement brigades for the, you know, Islamic terror bit.

To their credit, most newspapers saw this the way any other normal human being would. A few left-leaners naturally went with the "poor afflicted Muslim suffers witch hunt" garbage. But the Post constructed what can only be considered the Apollo Program of dhimmi apologia and actually let Omeish write an editorial about how he'd been the victim of ugly intolerance. It's almost impossible to fathom, but here it is:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #57 Pro-Bush Canuck

Charles is such a genius. LGF even works from a cell phone. Posting from a posh restaurant. My date is late. Hope I don't get stood up.

I think Pro Bush Canuck is trying to say something. Press the keys harder dude!

re: #74 yochanan

NAME WHO IS LINKED TO ALL OF THESE THINGS?

Web Hubbel
Janet Reno
Mike Espy
Craig Livingstone
Charlie Trie
John Huang
Johnny Chung
James Riady
Mochtar Riady
The Lippo Group
The Loral Corporation
Susan McDougal
Vince Foster
Sally Perdue
Juanita Broaddrick
Gennifer Flowers
Kathleen Willey
Monica Lewinsky
Filegate
Travelgate
Cattlegate
White House Coffeegate
Nannygate (Zoe Baird)
The Buddhist Temple
"No controlling legal authority"
Selling the Lincoln bedroom
Selling seats on Air Force One
Vandalizing of the White House
Looting of the White House
Pardongate
$200.00 haircuts
What is "is"
"I never touched her, that woman..."
Perjury
Suborning Perjury
Obstructing justice
forfiture of Law License.

Kark Rove?

I, however, think she's probably just sticking to good old-fashioned weed when it comes to the middle east.

Yes though, in all seriousness, that sounds to me like a veiled racist stab in the highlighted comment.

re: #74 yochanan

NAME WHO IS LINKED TO ALL OF THESE THINGS?

Web Hubbel
Janet Reno
Mike Espy
Craig Livingstone
Charlie Trie
John Huang
Johnny Chung
James Riady
Mochtar Riady
The Lippo Group
The Loral Corporation
Susan McDougal
Vince Foster
Sally Perdue
Juanita Broaddrick
Gennifer Flowers
Kathleen Willey
Monica Lewinsky
Filegate
Travelgate
Cattlegate
White House Coffeegate
Nannygate (Zoe Baird)
The Buddhist Temple
"No controlling legal authority"
Selling the Lincoln bedroom
Selling seats on Air Force One
Vandalizing of the White House
Looting of the White House
Pardongate
$200.00 haircuts
What is "is"
"I never touched her, that woman..."
Perjury
Suborning Perjury
Obstructing justice
forfiture of Law License.

Hillary. Right? Wasn't she pulling Bill's strings?

re: #47 Cap'n DOC

I can say you guys are the "BEST"

re: #58 Maine's Michael

Having met the lady when she was Provost of Stanford, and having read her work when I was in Soviet Studies, I must disagree. I have often thought she was wrong, but she is not an "affirmative action hire" (a code word for 'token black'), she is not rude, or graceless, or incompetent.

I do not like what she - under Bush's direction - has undertaken in the last 3 years. But I will not accept your particular way of referring to her without raising objections. I will try to keep it civil, but I really don't like it.

re: #57 Pro-Bush Canuck

If he/she stands you up, he or she is a fool.

Have a nice dinner, anyway!

re: #80 father_of_10

re: #74 yochanan

NAME WHO IS LINKED TO ALL OF THESE THINGS?

Web Hubbel
Janet Reno
Mike Espy
Craig Livingstone
Charlie Trie
John Huang
Johnny Chung
James Riady
Mochtar Riady
The Lippo Group
The Loral Corporation
Susan McDougal
Vince Foster
Sally Perdue
Juanita Broaddrick
Gennifer Flowers
Kathleen Willey
Monica Lewinsky
Filegate
Travelgate
Cattlegate
White House Coffeegate
Nannygate (Zoe Baird)
The Buddhist Temple
"No controlling legal authority"
Selling the Lincoln bedroom
Selling seats on Air Force One
Vandalizing of the White House
Looting of the White House
Pardongate
$200.00 haircuts
What is "is"
"I never touched her, that woman..."
Perjury
Suborning Perjury
Obstructing justice
forfiture of Law License.

Hillary. Right? Wasn't she pulling Bill's strings?

That cannot pass without a comment...........I havent heard or read it being called "strings" before.

re: #57 Pro-Bush Canuck

Remember, put your LGF and your computer away during the date.

If you do get stood up, however, feel free to have dinner in here with us!

Crack has been a part of the Wash DC political scene since Jan-18-1990

And........who the heck is Kark Rove?

re: #69 usmc1968

re: #45 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you, I really appreciate that. Not many thanks in the last 39 years.

I'm biased. I went in the Navy ('62/'66, a carrier in the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club) but my Dad was Old Corps -- joined in '39, retired in '64 -- 6th MarDiv in WWII.

re: #84 A Kiwi Infidel

Well, hair can technically be braided into string or rope; I'm sure that "sort" of hair can be, too.

re: #87 A Kiwi Infidel,

Karl's younger brother?

re: #75 Maine's Michael

Look:

If I made a watermelon, or fried chicken, or crack comment about a black person I would rightly be accused of making a racist comment, as it is playing to racist stereotypes.

If Condi were not black, that poster would *never* have made a crack pipe comment.

To imagine otherwise is ridiculous.

Kurtz is the last that should sling mud. He's been a hypocritical boob for DECADES!

That man knew what he was doing. Now Condi will get him his own state.

re: #66 DogCatcher

There is no doubt on God's Green Earth that the "crack pipe" comment was racist.

Agreed.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

An Okinawa vet ?

OT

Little munchette's femur has completely healed. No follow ups needed, now we just need how her case plays out.

re: #82 Dianna

If she is wrong more often than she is right, and remains in her position os SecState, then she is being kept there for a reason. She carries out the presidnets policies in a manner he finds acceptable. That much is clear.

IMO, those policies, in certain key areas, are not only wrong, but bereft of moral principle. And, they do not seem to be working even as political expediency.

In other words, they have nothing whatsoever going for them.

Rice is the conduit thru which those policies are voiced and executed. She does 'flavor' them with her own special sauce.

Do you seriously think she was the best andidate for the position? That race, gender, whatever, had nothing to do with it?

I will grant you that the fact that she is kept on has nothing to do with 'affirmative action' thinking, though her hiring likely did.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What carrier were you on?

re: #97 Maine's Michael

re: #82 Dianna

If she is wrong more often than she is right, and remains in her position os SecState, then she is being kept there for a reason. She carries out the presidnets policies in a manner he finds acceptable. That much is clear.

IMO, those policies, in certain key areas, are not only wrong, but bereft of moral principle. And, they do not seem to be working even as political expediency.

In other words, they have nothing whatsoever going for them.

Rice is the conduit thru which those policies are voiced and executed. She does 'flavor' them with her own special sauce.

Do you seriously think she was the best andidate for the position? That race, gender, whatever, had nothing to do with it?

I will grant you that the fact that she is kept on has nothing to do with 'affirmative action' thinking, though her hiring likely did.

Peter principal, she did well until SecState.

re: #100 JCM

Exactly.

re: #97 Maine's Michael

Rice was at her best as the NSA. She was very good in that position, and frankly, should have been kept there; it suited her mind, and it suited her particular talents - which are analysis, reportage, and assessment of consistency of reports (if you haven't read her Soviet analysis material, you don't know just how good she is; even when I disagreed with her, I had to - and still do - acknowledge the fact that she was perfectly transparent about source material, and how and why she assessed it the way she did).

She earned her initial position as a foreign analyst; there was no "token" thinking involved. Your insinuation is both wrong and repugnant.

re: #95 bulwrk

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

An Okinawa vet ?

Yes, he was -- in the "New Fourth" Marines. He never talked about it, and dammit, I never asked. He was in communications, ran a radio repair unit on Guam. Probably did something of the same on Okinawa. He was in the landing party which occupied Yokosuka Navy Yards just a few days after the surrender.

re: #99 usmc1968

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What carrier were you on?

Hancock, VA-212.

They're even blaming Bush and Neocons for Britney Spears' sister getting pregnant.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

You know, this is all the Neocon's fault. Go to church more they said, pray for your deliverance. Well lil brittany met her bf at church if i read right.

They don't in practiciing safe sex, but i guess they do appear to practice statutory rape.

the law needs to step up and arrest the guy. not for lil britt's sake, but to put in public view where our cuontries values have gone.

Make war, no peace, make life, not death, vote Republican conservative, so people like lil britt can have more stupid children.

Way to go Bushies!

I'm assuming that's a serious comment and not satire, but we all know how easily the two toggle back and forth when liberals are called on them.

re: #97 Maine's Michael

re: #82 Dianna
Do you seriously think she was the best andidate for the position? That race, gender, whatever, had nothing to do with it?

Condi is an impressive person and most importantly, has the President's confidence. Do you have any evidence that race, gender whatever was a factor? What better candidates, if any, were passed over? I find your use of innuendo disturbing, and unconvincing.

I guess you learn something new every day! I did know that watermelon/fried chicken jokes could be interpreted as racist, but i didn't know crack could be.

Can someone explain the history behind this for someone who's relatively new to the country.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club. LOL. That's a first. The Kitty Hawk, perhaps? I knew a Pilot by the name of Lee Nordahl from my neck of the woods who is still an MIA - 1965. He was a crewman on a Vigilante.

re: #108 FoolsMate

I'm trying not to go there.

re: #109 so.cal.swede

I guess you learn something new every day! I did know that watermelon/fried chicken jokes could be interpreted as racist, but i didn't know crack could be.

Can someone explain the history behind this for someone who's relatively new to the country.

Two words.
Marion Barry.

re: #104 Dianna

Rice was at her best as the NSA. She was very good in that position, and frankly, should have been kept there; it suited her mind, and it suited her particular talents - which are analysis, reportage, and assessment of consistency of reports (if you haven't read her Soviet analysis material, you don't know just how good she is; even when I disagreed with her, I had to - and still do - acknowledge the fact that she was perfectly transparent about source material, and how and why she assessed it the way she did).

This statement has been refuted by better infomed analysts than you and I. She was apparently an out and out disaster, as NSA, and has consolidated her mishandlings as Sec State.

The vaunted 'Russia Expert who could speak Russian' has not only fialed to 'manage' or 'engage' Russia, but has presided over a period where Russia has remerged as a policy enemy of the USA.

Oh, she apparetnly cannot speak Russian. She was good-heartedly tested on her first Russian visit, and humiliated by being shown to not be able to string even a simple sentence together.

She has not made the transition from teacher to effective policy maker.

re: #112 JCM

I've heard of him and his escapades. I fail at understanding how this makes crack racist though. By the only virtue that he is black? there has to be some other component i'm missing.

re: #110 Cap'n DOC

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club. LOL. That's a first. The Kitty Hawk, perhaps? I knew a Pilot by the name of Lee Nordahl from my neck of the woods who is still an MIA - 1965. He was a crewman on a Vigilante.

On the Hancock.

I have a patch with that caption and a sampan on it, from a shop in Yoko. Honestly can't remember whether I found it and bought it, or had it custom-made. I had several made back then, but this might not be one of those.

For some reason, the term "douchebag, douche thyself" comes to mind...

re: #109 so.cal.swede

I guess you learn something new every day! I did know that watermelon/fried chicken jokes could be interpreted as racist, but i didn't know crack could be.

Can someone explain the history behind this for someone who's relatively new to the country.

The street price of crack cocaine is much much cheaper than powder cocaine favored by more affluent drug users, so its use is more common amongst poor blacks. Some point to the disparity in drug possession penalties, which are much more severe for crack cocaine than powder cocaine, as an example of institutional racism.

re: #114 so.cal.swede

re: #112 JCM

I've heard of him and his escapades. I fail at understanding how this makes crack racist though. By the only virtue that he is black? there has to be some other component i'm missing.

It's a pop culture thing. It doesn't really have to make sense. The preception is that crack is more predominate among blacks, cocaine among whites. JAMA studies say otherwise, but perception is everything.

re: #108 FoolsMate

Please.

In the USA, when it comes to political appointees, race and gender are always factors. I have observed this, having moved to the US from Canada as an adult.

Condi was a Baker trainee, but not the only one. She was a woman, black, and accomplished. Piano player, Russian speaker, blah blah blah.

A perfect foil the President could wield against those who accused him of being a knuckle dragging racist Texas pork rind muncher.

Was Gonzales' ethnicity irrelevant to the President as well?

re: #96 JCM

OT

Little munchette's femur has completely healed. No follow ups needed, now we just need how her case plays out.

Fantastic news, thanks for the update. Still praying!

re: #69 usmc1968

re: #45 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you, I really appreciate that. Not many thanks in the last 39 years.

Getting back to it, I was never in-country. Things like Khe Sahn are why I'm always careful to point that out. I merely "also served". Guys like you are the heros.

re: #118 JCM

re: #114 so.cal.swede

re: #112 JCM

I've heard of him and his escapades. I fail at understanding how this makes crack racist though. By the only virtue that he is black? there has to be some other component i'm missing.

It's a pop culture thing. It doesn't really have to make sense. The preception is that crack is more predominate among blacks, cocaine among whites. JAMA studies say otherwise, but perception is everything.

Ah ok, so based on pretty much the same foundation as the watermelon/fried chicken idea. Hm.. i've used the expression "are/is you/he/she on CRACK?" to indicate befuddlement over a persons actions, i wonder if i inadvertently offended someone that way.

Fairly stunning, albeit par for the course. Just to keep it straight in my mind:
The party that says that racism is bad, mm-kay, and stereotypical caricatures are bad, mm-kay, and people with drug problems are *sick* and need our help, not our condemnation, so lets all give boatloads of (your) money to alkies and crack addicts and everyone else, mm-kay, is saying that a self-made genius-level IQ woman who happens to be black must be a crack user.

Mm-kay.

re: #114 so.cal.swede

re: #112 JCM

I've heard of him and his escapades. I fail at understanding how this makes crack racist though. By the only virtue that he is black? there has to be some other component i'm missing.

Powder cocaine is the drug of choice for white stockbrokers, rock or crack cocaine is the form blacks are said to favor, just as crank or crystal meth is the drug favored by low income/class whites. So if you make an allusion to crack and a black person you re-inforce a proven connection (see FBI stats) between blacks and crack.

Who, besides mediaholes, takes Howard Kurtz seriously?

re: #124 BenZacharia

Hah! so very specific, eh. Is there a drug of perception for soccer moms or college students too? valium and beer, respectively, i suppose?

re: #126 so.cal.swede

re: #124 BenZacharia

Hah! so very specific, eh. Is there a drug of perception for soccer moms or college students too? valium and beer, respectively, i suppose?

Ativan for the ladies and scotch, single malt please, for the gents. If you had said the 'bowling alley set' then it would be wine coolers and schlitz.

re: #119 Maine's Michael

re: #108 FoolsMate

Please.

In the USA, when it comes to political appointees, race and gender are always factors. I have observed this, having moved to the US from Canada as an adult.

Condi was a Baker trainee, but not the only one. She was a woman, black, and accomplished. Piano player, Russian speaker, blah blah blah.

A perfect foil the President could wield against those who accused him of being a knuckle dragging racist Texas pork rind muncher.

Was Gonzales' ethnicity irrelevant to the President as well?

The question was: what better candidates did Condi edge out due to her race and/or gender? Answer that, then we'll move on to Gonzalez.

re: #20 Iron Fist

Understand, the L³eft aren't hypocrites. We say vile harsh things sometimes against our Mohammedan enemies. The WashPost's commenters are saying vile harsh things against their Republican enemies.

Kurtz just agrees with his side.

The difference between right and left:
Republicans think their international enemies are evil--AQ, AQI, Hamas, etc.
Democrats think their domestic, political enemies are evil--Bush, etc. etc.

re: #113 Maine's Michael

Curiously, what you're claiming is based on a series of articles which are not based on facts, but on "debunking" nonsense; strawmen, if you will.

Condi reads Russian, which I will not claim to do with fluency. She does not - any more than I do - speak it, and she never has claimed to. She relies, as do we all, on translations.

You're going with every story that ever - inaccurately! - tore her down.

As for the re-emergence of Russia; that's the fault of 1) the press - which can only discuss one story at a time, it seems (or would you like to get into a heavy discussion of the State Department's critiques and initiatives (completely ignored by the non-specialist press and congress) of current Russian legislation on land, property tenure and patents - all of which are based on Condi's work? Of course not!

And how was Condi a disaster as NSA? Specifics, please? Name one case where the evidence was against her interpretation.

Sorry But i hate Condi Fuck the Jews Rice. She can go to hell or Saudi Arabia which ever comes first.

re: #131 pegcity

Sorry But i hate Condi Fuck the Jews Rice. She can go to hell or Saudi Arabia which ever comes first.

I'm curious, why Condi and not Bush? She is implementing his policy, after all.

re: #131 pegcity

Hate her all you like, as long as it's about Bush's policies that she's carrying out. I think it's a waste of energy to hate her, but whatever.

re: #127 BenZacharia

And Pabst Blue Ribbon for irony-addicted urban hipsters!

re: #131 pegcity

Sorry But i hate Condi Fuck the Jews Rice. She can go to hell or Saudi Arabia which ever comes first.

That's like saying screw Eichman but giving his boss a pass. Who sets policy?

re: #135 BenZacharia

re: #131 pegcity

Sorry But i hate Condi Fuck the Jews Rice. She can go to hell or Saudi Arabia which ever comes first.

That's like saying screw Eichman but giving his boss a pass. Who sets policy?

True, but if she thinks its a shithouse job she can always resign. As with Eichman and his ilk, the defence "I was only following orders" does not hold up. Mind you, in this day and age, it just might.

No no no, that's different. They're hating people who deserve to be hated, while the commenters here vilely attack good people such as Jimmy Carter like vicious attack rabbits.

re: #136 A Kiwi Infidel

re: #135 BenZacharia

re: #131 pegcity

Sorry But i hate Condi Fuck the Jews Rice. She can go to hell or Saudi Arabia which ever comes first.

That's like saying screw Eichman but giving his boss a pass. Who sets policy?

True, but if she thinks its a shithouse job she can always resign. As with Eichman and his ilk, the defence "I was only following orders" does not hold up. Mind you, in this day and age, it just might.

Um, okay, if you are on trial for war crimes, genocide or other crimes against humanity. Does forcing a raw deal down Israel's throat constitute a crime against humanity?

re: #138 FoolsMate

Does forcing a raw deal down Israel's throat constitute a crime against humanity?

Worse, against Ha'Shem.

re: #139 BenZacharia

re: #138 FoolsMate

Does forcing a raw deal down Israel's throat constitute a crime against humanity?

Worse, against Ha'Shem.

That's of no concern to me.

Foolsmate,

Bolton.

Feith.

Perle.

Wolfowitz.

Um, okay, if you are on trial for war crimes, genocide or other crimes against humanity. Does forcing a raw deal down Israel's throat constitute a crime against humanity?

If it leads to genocide, yes it does. At the minimum it empowers those with genocidal intent. So it is not very far off.

You're an idjit for not seeing it.

re: #132 FoolsMate

I'm curious, why Condi and not Bush? She is implementing his policy, after all.

The Dhimmi-in-Chief gets the full brunt as well, AFAIAC.

re: #130 Dianna

You have your opinion, based on meeting her, largely, I suspect.

I am looking at results, and they stink to the heavens.

re: #141 Maine's Michael

Feith. Perle. Wolfowitz. Bolton. You argue these four candidates were passed over in favor of Condi on the basis of her race and/or gender. This assertion is without merit and obviously so. Neither you nor I were privy to internal WH discussions. However, it is much more plausible that Condi was selected over all four of these on the basis of ease of confirmation. It's questionable, to put it mildly, whether any of these four neoconservatives could have passed the Senate confirmation process in an atmosphere focused on holding the Bush Administration accountable for the war in Iraq. I'm certain Bolton could not have passed.

re: #144 FoolsMate

You asked who would have been other candidates who would have likely done a better job, and I told you.

The problem , of course, is that these candidates were eased out of the Admin after Colin Powel's and Rumsfeld's execution of the Iraq war and its aftermath turned the whole effort to shit.

These so called 'neocons' were sacrificed, and blamed, for a lousy war effort played out to appeal to Saudi and 'Arab Street' sensitivities.

This was not what the Jacksonian (I prefer that term to 'neocon') plan of execution was.

Their over arching plan, never properly implemented, was jettisoned in favor of a plan more in line with the James Baker view. While beneficial to kleptocratic Saudi and gulf interests, it has of course left us in the shitty situation we now find ourselves in.

In this situation, where the (very erroneous) general perception was that the 'neocns' screwed up, it may have been difficult to get one of them confirmed. I do not know that for a fact, and neither do you.

Our only hope is to bring back the 'neocons,' and THIS time, listen to EVERYTHING they say.

Condoleeza Rice = Prince Bandar in a dress.

re: #145 Maine's Michael

"Maybe Condi dropped her crack pipe"

that is awful -- Linking her to the South LA origins of the 'crack' epidemic of the USA – as one of the many implications. That is about as low as any derogatory comment can be made. WaPo should immediately remove this.

re: #145 Maine's Michael

Oops I must have made a boo-boo.

It appears you have answered a question I didn't ask. Just to clarify, what I had asked was: what candidates did Condi edge out on the basis of being a black woman? I asked that because in #97 you suggested her hiring was due to affirmative action. A necessary (but insufficient) condition for that to be true is the existence of a plausible, white male candidate with clearly superior qualifications.

I maintain that Bolton, Feith, Perle and Wolfowitz would surely be difficult if not impossible to confirm. No reasonably informed observer could argue confirming any of these four would be easy. Bolton could not manage confirmation for UN Ambassador. Perhaps the WH could have pushed one of the other through with a fight, but recalling the poisoned atmosphere I am skeptical.

The WH knows how to count votes, and knew Rice would pass easily and the knew those others would not. She did pass with over 80 aye votes if I remember correctly. That is the basis of her selection for Sec State, not affirmative action as you stated.

So, you still haven't offered a plausible white male candidate with clearly superior qualifications that Condi possibly could have edged out because she is a black woman. Who is it? Did you have one in mind? If not, why did you raise the "affirmative action" issue?

"Maybe Condi dropped her crack pipe"

Don't worry, Sharpton and Jackson will no doubt be on the scene shortly with harsh condemnations while they quickly establish a boycott against the Washington Post.

re: #148 FoolsMate

At the time of the confirmations in question, it is certainly not clear to me that any of those could not be confirmed. The war was not yet percevied as a total fuck up, and Bush had just won his second term, with a clear majority.

It was a bit later in the second term that things got really bad for the minder-of-the-arab-street-in-chief.

However, just because she could get confirmed is no reason to propose her for confirmation if there were others who could do the job better and yet get confirmed.

She got the confirmation 85-13 in favor. Some of the others may not have gotten in with that majority, but 50-38 would have been just as good if a better person ended up in the position.

What is the point of having Prince Bandar in a dress as Secretary of State (for non Bakerites, that is)?

I will concede that after the mid terms, no nominee other than Cindy Sheehan would have gotten confirmed.

Anyhow, any comment on this:

Um, okay, if you are on trial for war crimes, genocide or other crimes against humanity. Does forcing a raw deal down Israel's throat constitute a crime against humanity?

If it leads to genocide, yes it does. At the minimum it empowers those with genocidal intent. So it is not very far off.

re: #150 Maine's Michael

I don't think pushing an Arab-Israeli peace process can remotely be called a war crime.

re: #151 FoolsMate

The term was 'crime against humanity'.

There is no such thing as a 'Peace Process'.

There is only genocide on the installment plan, aided/pushed by the USA.

Thanks for your answer. It speaks volumes.

re: #152 Maine's Michael

re: #151 FoolsMate

The term was 'crime against humanity'.

There is no such thing as a 'Peace Process'.

There is only genocide on the installment plan, aided/pushed by the USA.

Thanks for your answer. It speaks volumes.

Okay. Watch out for those black helicopters.

Here's another oh-so-classy comment:

analyst72 wrote:
I have one question:
Were the S.O.Bs in the building?
We would be so lucky!

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