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Thursday Morning Linktopia

Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:13:11 am PST

We’ve had more than 5,000 spinoff links posted since I launched the feature, and the new click counter is working very nicely, so here’s another open linkage thread.

Note that there are two new categories for posting links: “Law” and “Military.” And there is also a new option in the top rated links area, to show the “10 Most-Clicked Links.”

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1 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:14:48am

Please link something funny today.....

2 me  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:14:55am

so many links, so little time!

3 Globular Cluster  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:16:32am

Comments, Spinoff links, RSS feeds, chat room -- Who needs DIGG? LGF is no longer a blog, but a portal.

4 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:16:46am

Hey Zionist oppressors, I changed my mind.

I want to trade exclusively in US Dollars again.

5 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:18:47am

re: #1 coquimbojoe

Please link something funny today.....

Done.

6 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:18:53am

Oh how I miss the 90's......I like the sound of President Obama.

7 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:18:57am

Not sure what to think.

WASHINGTON - A high school track star has been disqualified from a meet because officials said the custom-made outfit she wears to conform to her Muslim faith violated competition rules.

Juashaunna Kelly, a senior at the District of Columbia's Theodore Roosevelt High School, has the fastest mile and 2-mile times of any girl runner in the city this winter. She was disqualified from Saturday's Montgomery Invitational indoor track and field meet.

Kelly was wearing the same uniform she has worn for three seasons while running for Theodore Roosevelt's cross-country and track teams. The custom-made, one-piece blue and orange unitard covers her head, arms, torso and legs. Over the unitard, she wears the same orange and blue T-shirt and shorts as her teammates.

The outfit allows her to compete while adhering to her Muslim faith, which forbids displaying any skin other than her face and hands.

"It's not special," Kelly said. "It doesn't make me perform better."

But meet director Tom Rogers said Kelly's uniform violated rules of the National Federation of State High School Associations, which sanctioned the event. Uniforms are required to be "a single-solid color and unadorned, except for a single school name or insignia no more than 2 1/4 inches," he said.

SNIP

8 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:19:25am

re: #5 jcm

Thank you I just watched that the first time last week. Brilliant.

9 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:19:35am

re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?

10 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:20:30am

re: #8 coquimbojoe

re: #5 jcm

Thank you I just watched that the first time last week. Brilliant.

Great humor stands the test of time.

11 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:20:56am

At least they didn't show a photo of the sex toy that caused the bomb threat.

Compare that with this story about prostate cancer tests and newly identified genetic risk factors.

12 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:20:58am

re: #9 MandyManners

re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?

Mandy! Where have you been lately? hope all is well.

13 snowcrash  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:21:07am

It's like Show and Tell........only different!

14 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:21:09am

re: #9 MandyManners

re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?

You mean like by this bitch?

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:21:24am

re: #7 MandyManners

Special treatment goes along great until someone actually wants to enforce the rules.

16 loppyd  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:22:36am

Hey Kids...

Stooopit busy here today. I still have to go to Boston. :~(

See youse guys tomorrow.

17 akak  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:22:50am

re: #7 MandyManners

I choose our rules not Islamic rule! never submit

18 zombie  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:22:53am

Everybody, go back to the spinoffs for last thread and give a "plus" vote to "Obama's cousin accused of ethnic cleansing."

Unbelievable! The politician behind Kenya's recent massacres -- which include forced circumcisions of men and women, by the way (hmmm, what kind of people would do that?) -- is Obama's cousin!

19 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:23:00am

re: #14 HugoChavez

re: #9 MandyManners

re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?

You mean like by this bitch?

That's gotta be photoshopped. I mean look at the size of you ugly gourd....

20 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:23:01am

re: #14 HugoChavez

re: #9 MandyManners

re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?

You mean like by this bitch?

Is that a nuke in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

21 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:23:03am

re: #16 loppyd

Bye Loppyd

22 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:24:22am

re: #12 coquimbojoe

Busy, busy, busy.

23 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:25:09am

re: #14 HugoChavez

re: #9 MandyManners


re: #6 HugoChavez

You been bitch-slapped lately?


You mean like by this bitch?

Hugo, stop stealing chins. Poor Bashir.

24 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:25:39am

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

25 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:26:13am

re: #17 akak

re: #7 MandyManners

I choose our rules not Islamic rule! never submit

Well, she is the team's fastest. And, does it really hurt anyone for her to abide by her religion's rules? She's not imposing them on anyone else.

26 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:26:17am

Zimbabwe printing a 10 million bill isn't weird. It's simply the product of a corruptocrat who has no idea of economic theories like supply and demand. He wants 10,000% inflation? He's getting it.

Chavez is next.

27 alegrias  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:26:21am

Rejoice, Y'all:

Higher Oil Output
Seen Lifting Iraqi Growth

[Link: uk.reuters.com...]

Good News, Win Win for us and Iraqis.

28 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:26:46am

re: #26 lawhawk

Zimbabwe printing a 10 million bill isn't weird. It's simply the product of a corruptocrat who has no idea of economic theories like supply and demand. He wants 10,000% inflation? He's getting it.

Chavez is next.

See my #4

29 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:27:38am

re: #24 HugoChavez

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

What size bra do you wear?

30 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:28:01am

re: #26 lawhawk

Zimbabwe printing a 10 million bill isn't weird. It's simply the product of a corruptocrat who has no idea of economic theories like supply and demand. He wants 10,000% inflation? He's getting it.

Chavez is next.

Historically such actions precede either revolution or war. With the current regime getting the short end of the stick.

31 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:28:05am

re: #24 HugoChavez

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

Oh, and is that eye shadow Maybelline or Cover Girl?

32 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:28:31am

re: #29 MandyManners

re: #24 HugoChavez

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

What size bra do you wear?

He didn't like his present I brought to the hospital.

33 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:28:35am

re: #18 zombie

which include forced circumcisions of men and women, by the way (hmmm, what kind of people would do that?)

By circumcisions of women, I presume they meant FGM.

34 BuddyG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:29:13am
35 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:29:15am

re: #18 zombie

Everybody, go back to the spinoffs for last thread and give a "plus" vote to "Obama's cousin accused of ethnic cleansing."

Unbelievable! The politician behind Kenya's recent massacres -- which include forced circumcisions of men and women, by the way (hmmm, what kind of people would do that?) -- is Obama's cousin!

Will do. That's bizarre.

37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:29:42am

re: #25 MandyManners

re: #17 akak


re: #7 MandyManners

I choose our rules not Islamic rule! never submit


Well, she is the team's fastest. And, does it really hurt anyone for her to abide by her religion's rules? She's not imposing them on anyone else.

Thats just the thing. She is imposing them. Sure, it seems harmless enough, then next time, she asks for a little more, then a little more. Once a precedent has been set for providing special treatment in one case, it becomes harder and harder the next time.

38 seekeroftruth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:29:52am

re: #18 zombie

Thanks Zombie. I find it appalling the length that the media will go to ignore huge news when it concerns Democrats. Thanks to Charles, there is a way to run around the media and get some of this news out. This is shocking stuff.

39 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:30:02am

Those missionaries sure got this thing right.

40 pgmrmatt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:31:32am

Reason: The Websense category "Racism and Hate" is filtered.
Web page: [Link: antiracistblog.blogspot.com...] html

41 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:31:50am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #25 MandyManners


re: #17 akak

re: #7 MandyManners
I choose our rules not Islamic rule! never submit

Well, she is the team's fastest. And, does it really hurt anyone for her to abide by her religion's rules? She's not imposing them on anyone else.

Thats just the thing. She is imposing them. Sure, it seems harmless enough, then next time, she asks for a little more, then a little more. Once a precedent has been set for providing special treatment in one case, it becomes harder and harder the next time.

I'm struggling on this. She is NOT imposing the uniform on anyone other than herself. What if it were a girl whose religion dictated that she wears a skirt? A Jewish boy who wore a yamulke?

42 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:31:50am
43 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:32:06am

re: #24 HugoChavez

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

No, bitch, he likes you smooth and hairless. And tape up that tiny guebo if you are gonna wear those panties.

44 zombie  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:32:22am

re: #33 Silhouette

re: #18 zombie

which include forced circumcisions of men and women, by the way (hmmm, what kind of people would do that?)

By circumcisions of women, I presume they meant FGM.

Yup.

45 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:32:42am

re: #32 HugoChavez

re: #29 MandyManners


re: #24 HugoChavez

Do you like my new hair Uncle Fidel?

What size bra do you wear?

He didn't like his present I brought to the hospital.

I'm surprised you made it past the nurses' station with that sign.

46 pgmrmatt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:33:09am

Reason: The Websense category "Racism and Hate" is filtered.
Web page: [Link: antiracistblog.blogspot.com...] html


Does this make sense?

47 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:33:36am

re: #39 HugoChavez

Those missionaries sure got this thing right.

Oh, no. You didn't just post that.

48 mike volpe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:33:41am

Zombie,

be careful of incendiary stories on the web. I have been following this crisis pretty closely, here is my latest, and I haven't heard anything about this. Even if true, you are still trying to make guilt by association. How close is this cousin? Should we really blame Obama for his actions, which as of yet are unconfirmed.

I think there is a legitimate way to bring Obama down to size. Here is my analysis.

49 rappmandu  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:33:56am

re: #18 zombie

zombie,

How can you possibly claim that Rushdie's Satanic Verses, his only novel explicitly mentioned in your linked article, is an "obscure novel?" Were you being sarcastic?

50 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:33:58am

re: #30 jcm

re: #26 lawhawk

Zimbabwe printing a 10 million bill isn't weird. It's simply the product of a corruptocrat who has no idea of economic theories like supply and demand. He wants 10,000% inflation? He's getting it.

Chavez is next.

Historically such actions precede either revolution or war. With the current regime getting the short end of the stick.

god bless america.

51 akak  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:34:35am

re: #25 MandyManners

re: #25 MandyManners

re: #17 akak


re: #7 MandyManners



Well, she is the team's fastest. And, does it really hurt anyone for her to abide by her religion's rules? She's not imposing them on anyone else.

lol no no not imposing on anyone else

52 Izzy Dunne  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:37:15am

RIP Judah Folkman, Cancer Warrior
Link is to a 1-hour NOVA program on his sometimes solitary quest to prove his hunch: that cancers cause the body to adapt and grow blood vessels to support the cancer.

Died yesterday.

53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:37:38am

re: #41 MandyManners

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


re: #25 MandyManners

re: #17 akak

re: #7 MandyManners
I choose our rules not Islamic rule! never submit

Well, she is the team's fastest. And, does it really hurt anyone for her to abide by her religion's rules? She's not imposing them on anyone else.

Thats just the thing. She is imposing them. Sure, it seems harmless enough, then next time, she asks for a little more, then a little more. Once a precedent has been set for providing special treatment in one case, it becomes harder and harder the next time.

I'm struggling on this. She is NOT imposing the uniform on anyone other than herself. What if it were a girl whose religion dictated that she wears a skirt? A Jewish boy who wore a yamulke?

The rules state what the uniform can be. The day of the event is not the time to try and get by and start whining about it. Her coaches should have known the rules and either planned in advance to let the event staff think about it or tell her she would have to choose.

54 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:37:38am

I said, move it to the LEFT, bitch or it's Guantanamo for you!

55 Alouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:38:14am
56 BuddyG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:38:48am

She is woman hear her roar.

57 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:38:49am

Would anybody be surprised to find out that this "campaign" was only one phone call?

CAIR-OH: Alleged Phone Campaign Against Mosque

58 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:39:54am

re: #11 lawhawk

Someone might be missing that package.

59 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:40:34am

One more thing, Charles:

Sometimes I open one of those links, and want so much to comment, and discuss it with Lizards......and cannot, because threads can't come off those links unless you decide to capture one and put it out here on the home page.....

60 HugoChavez  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:41:28am

re: #56 BuddyG

She is woman hear her roar.

/socialist sock puppet off

Oh yeah baby! That's my kind of woman. She could handle my big gun anytime .

/back to your regularly scheduled socialist utopia.

61 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:41:41am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This has not been a problem for three years and it wasn't a problem at last year's meet, why is it a problem now? If it's just about the multi-colored top, she should just wear the white t-shirt under the team's shirt. However, what if this slows her up?

62 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:43:01am

re: #60 HugoChavez

re: #56 BuddyG


She is woman hear her roar.

/socialist sock puppet off

Oh yeah baby! That's my kind of woman. She could handle my big gun anytime .

/back to your regularly scheduled socialist utopia.

She'd tear your big gun away and use it to beat the snot out of you.

63 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:45:09am
64 BuddyG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:45:19am

Another awesome woman

65 Lively  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:46:07am

Re: Speaker at banquet honoring Brown apologizes for racial joke. Via Drudge.

Okay, guy makes a racial joke that was uncalled for and fell flat.

NO mention of his party affiliation (Dem) in the article.

But yesterday a lawmaker from 1987 said something and Republican was posted all over the place. What gives?

66 derkrieger  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:46:16am

Moroccan Muslim PM in Dutch parliament tells native Dutch that they are the immigrants and that they should convert to Islam or shut up.

67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:46:54am

re: #61 MandyManners

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This has not been a problem for three years and it wasn't a problem at last year's meet, why is it a problem now? If it's just about the multi-colored top, she should just wear the white t-shirt under the team's shirt. However, what if this slows her up?

I dont know enough about the particulars to say. I do know that CAIR and the MSM will use this to show the "Plight and Intolerance directed against Muslim"s and hide or obscure any information which could show differently.

68 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:47:24am

Hey everybody, Nihad Awad has three simple steps to Mideast peace. Why didn't we think to use "tough love?" (Does CAIR belong to AA?)

But what can any president or candidate do to change this situation?

First, he or she needs to clearly define America's interests and explain that our interests are not always in complete alignment with those of Israel.

Second, any domestic supporter of Israel should use tough love to explain to that nation's leaders why uncritical American support for the continued occupation and humiliation of the Palestinian people will inevitably lead to universal recognition that the term "Apartheid" is applicable after all.

And finally, elected officials and candidates for public office should be ready to speak these truths to the American public, and to resist the temptation to take the safe path of pandering to a powerful domestic lobby that has skewed our Middle East policy for too long.

69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:47:35am

re: #65 Lively

Its the MSM

70 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:47:42am

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #61 MandyManners


re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This has not been a problem for three years and it wasn't a problem at last year's meet, why is it a problem now? If it's just about the multi-colored top, she should just wear the white t-shirt under the team's shirt. However, what if this slows her up?


I dont know enough about the particulars to say. I do know that CAIR and the MSM will use this to show the "Plight and Intolerance directed against Muslim"s and hide or obscure any information which could show differently.

I give up.

71 snowcrash  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:48:08am

Hey Ringo, thanks for the music video. I grew up in an Italian American neighborhood and this was part of the soundtrack of my early years. Thanks for reminding me, I will call my mother now!

72 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:48:50am
73 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:49:40am
74 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:49:55am

re: #66 derkrieger

Moroccan Muslim PM in Dutch parliament tells native Dutch that they are the immigrants and that they should convert to Islam or shut up.

She doesn't even know what "immigrant" means.

75 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:50:53am

re: #73 ploome hineni

You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

76 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:51:25am
77 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:52:06am

re: #72 Peacekeeper

Bad driving link du jour

Oh, my goodness. That's horrific.

78 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:52:15am
79 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:53:05am

re: #76 ploome hineni

Natives who wonder into a largely immigrant neighborhood are still natives.

80 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:53:22am

re: #78 ploome hineni

re: #75 MandyManners


re: #73 ploome hineni

You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.


and seikh should run wearing that turban?

and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

81 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:53:46am

re: #77 MandyManners
Yes it is. Which is my tutorial for the day. You gotta watch out behind you.

82 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:54:27am

re: #65 Lively

Re: Speaker at banquet honoring Brown apologizes for racial joke. Via Drudge.

Okay, guy makes a racial joke that was uncalled for and fell flat.

NO mention of his party affiliation (Dem) in the article.

But yesterday a lawmaker from 1987 said something and Republican was posted all over the place. What gives?

Its called the MSM Bible, page 1

Commandment # 1> If the story makes Bush and/ or any republican look the least bit bad, print on PAGE 1 above the fold.

Commandment #2> If the story in any way deals with a democrat that did something wrong, illegal and/ or immoral, put it on page 36, lower right corner, and do NOT mention party affiliation!

As long as you obey those 2 MSM commandments, you will have a long and proslerous career in journalism

83 Alouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:54:31am

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #78 ploome hineni


re: #75 MandyManners

re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

84 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:55:29am
85 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:55:36am

prosperous ,,,, PIMF

86 ornery elephant  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:55:58am
87 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:57:18am

re: #81 Peacekeeper

re: #77 MandyManners
Yes it is. Which is my tutorial for the day. You gotta watch out behind you.

You can't do shit about what's coming behind you.

88 joncelli  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:57:36am

re: #11 lawhawk

And they showed that...why?

89 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:57:50am

re: #83 Alouette

re: #80 MandyManners


re: #78 ploome hineni

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

I thought they only went skyclad during rituals so, that's a no-go.

90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 10:59:43am

re: #83 Alouette

re: #80 MandyManners


re: #78 ploome hineni

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Have you seen your average wiccan nowadays? Running is not in their vocabulary.

My opinion is, you dont cater to anyone. If you want to participate in a certain event, play by the rules or take your ball and gome home. Everyone sets aside their baggage and play ball together. Dont like it? No one is forcing you to play and no one is stopping you from getting together with others who share your beliefs and setting up your own game.

91 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:00:34am

re: #83 Alouette

re: #80 MandyManners


re: #78 ploome hineni

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.


And Dominatrixes can run in their leather. That whip could be a very effective vote getting tool.

92 Peter2Feathers  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:03:20am

re: #87 MandyManners

Actually you can sometimes. I was caught napping one day when a honda went spinning down the snow covered highway in front of me. I slowed carefully behind him and was laughing at the scared expression on his face when I got tagged from behind. I had room in front to creat more space but I wasn't watching my mirror. My bad.

93 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:03:21am

re: #87 MandyManners

You can get out of the way, if you leave some space to pull out . Nevermind.

94 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:03:53am

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, certain Jews, Christians and Muslim women should be excluded from a state-sponsored sport which can provide college scholarhsips?

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:03:58am
96 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:05:04am

re: #92 Peter2Feathers

There are exceptions.

97 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:05:16am
98 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:05:19am

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My opinion is, you dont cater to anyone. If you want to participate in a certain event, play by the rules or take your ball and gome home. Everyone sets aside their baggage and play ball together. Dont like it? No one is forcing you to play and no one is stopping you from getting together with others who share your beliefs and setting up your own game.

'Zactly. But why bother when you can get to play the victim (even more fun than playing sports), get a lot of press, and maybe even a hefty law suit.

99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:05:21am

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

re: #83 Alouette


And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Is this a euphemism for being starkers?

I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.

Yeah, especially with the current crop of candidates.
Ewwww.

100 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:05:32am

re: #93 Peacekeeper

The poor sap in the video had no chance.

101 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:06:06am

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

re: #91 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


And Dominatrixes can run in their leather.

"I intend to thoroughly beat my opposition!"

LOL

102 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:06:41am

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey


re: #83 Alouette

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Is this a euphemism for being starkers?
I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.

Yeah, especially with the current crop of candidates.
Ewwww.

You don't wanna' see Ron Paul nekkid?

103 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:06:48am
104 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:07:09am

re: #102 MandyManners

Man, I'm sick.

105 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:07:18am

re: #100 MandyManners

re: #93 Peacekeeper

The poor sap in the video had no chance.


hell ,,, with the havoc and debris that crash caused, without the video I wonder if they would have ever known there was a small car involved!

106 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:07:30am

re: #102 MandyManners

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

re: #83 Alouette

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Is this a euphemism for being starkers?
I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.

Yeah, especially with the current crop of candidates.
Ewwww.

You don't wanna' see Ron Paul nekkid?

Nawwww. I'd either go insane or laugh myself silly.

107 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:07:36am

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Given the adipose tissue of many of the candidates, it does give new meaning to the admonition "don't get in a flap."

Bet Rudy doesn't have any.

108 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:07:50am

re: #102 MandyManners

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

re: #83 Alouette

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Is this a euphemism for being starkers?
I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.

Yeah, especially with the current crop of candidates.
Ewwww.

You don't wanna' see Ron Paul nekkid?

NOOO ,,, But I wouldn't mind seeing "more" of Kucinich's wife !

109 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:08:08am

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Given the adipose tissue of many of the candidates, it does give new meaning to the admonition "don't get in a flap."


ROFL

Nice wordsmithing, btw.

110 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:08:12am

re: #105 sattv4u2

re: #100 MandyManners


re: #93 Peacekeeper

The poor sap in the video had no chance.


hell ,,, with the havoc and debris that crash caused, without the video I wonder if they would have ever known there was a small car involved!

The video got to me.

111 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:08:38am

re: #106 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'd run screaming.

112 m  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:08:41am

re: #89 MandyManners

I think the coach should have made her aware of the rules, no matter what had been allowed the year before. I was in a hundred drill competitions and it would always depend on the judges that day*. You had to have everything right to make any of them happy.

*We had one judge that actually whipped out a measuring tape and made sure all of our socks were folded once in an exactly two inch fold. Come on! One year I got away with fingernail polish, and one I was disqualified because of it. AND IT WAS CLEAR POLISH!

She could practice her religion in a one toned body suit just as easily as the two toned. It is not a western oppression of this woman's religious beliefs. Just a lax coach.

And lax runner. I'm sure she read the rules from pg 1 as well.

113 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:08:59am

re: #108 sattv4u2

Or, Fred's.

114 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:09:20am

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

re: #83 Alouette

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Is this a euphemism for being starkers?

I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.

True story: I'm 'skyclad' under these clothes, right now.

115 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:09:21am

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #83 Alouette


re: #80 MandyManners

re: #78 ploome hineni

re: #75 MandyManners

re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.

and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?

Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

Have you seen your average wiccan nowadays? Running is not in their vocabulary.

My opinion is, you dont cater to anyone. If you want to participate in a certain event, play by the rules or take your ball and gome home. Everyone sets aside their baggage and play ball together. Dont like it? No one is forcing you to play and no one is stopping you from getting together with others who share your beliefs and setting up your own game.


Exactly!

116 ciaospirit  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:09:48am

re: #94 MandyManners

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, certain Jews, Christians and Muslim women should be excluded from a state-sponsored sport which can provide college scholarhsips?

The hijab is not required by the Koran. So this girl puts forth a false argument to begin with. No one excluded her from the competition. She excluded herself.

117 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:10:11am

re: #112 m

All she needed to do was to cover the top with a white shirt. I don't get the issue after that.

118 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:11:09am
119 mean Gene  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:12:00am

The casino caucus sites will remain!
Judge just upheld the rule.

120 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:12:12am

re: #116 ciaospirit

re: #94 MandyManners


re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, certain Jews, Christians and Muslim women should be excluded from a state-sponsored sport which can provide college scholarhsips?


The hijab is not required by the Koran. So this girl puts forth a false argument to begin with. No one excluded her from the competition. She excluded herself.

It went beyond the hood. But, if I were in her shoes, I would've covered my top with the shirt.

121 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:13:21am

Hamas and Islamic Millenarianism: What the West Doesn't Recognize
by Paul Landau

Some 20 years after its founding, the Palestinian organization Hamas remains little understood in the West. Although it is invoked nearly daily in the media, it has been the subject of only a very small number of serious studies. The most common error made by observers in considering contemporary Islamist movements -- and notably, Hamas -- is that of attempting to grasp them in terms of concepts and modes of thought that are proper to the West. Most western analyses of the phenomenon of Islamism tend to underestimate or even obscure a fundamental element that is common to all the various Islamist currents and organizations: namely, the role of specifically Muslim religious beliefs and, more precisely, of Islamic eschatology.

a must read essay

122 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:13:25am
123 m  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:14:44am

Hey [[Savage]]! Whassup my friend?!

re: #117 MandyManners

All I had to do was get the fingernail polish off quickly~ you would think that would work... I gotta "no". It is apparently not that easy.

My drill instructor was sooooooooo pissed at me!

124 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:15:34am

re: #122 savage_nation

You get a new rig?

125 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:17:29am

re: #122 savage_nation

Are you talking about the Dutch adult or the American child?

126 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:18:45am
127 m  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:19:34am

Savage! Geeze!

128 Rodan[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:20:14am
129 m  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:21:00am

re: the runner
She's getting more attention not being allowed to participate in this race~ if it's recruiter's attention she is after, I am sure she got it.

130 FoolsMate  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:21:17am

This is a good sign for Republican presidential prospects. Security-hawk Democrats who vote Republican to fight militant Islam will be a key constituency we need to win this one. It's a good, interesting read from that perspective.

131 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:21:28am
132 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:21:51am

re: #117 MandyManners,

Trying to show the kafir who's #1 in the world. I don't feel sorry for her in the least.

133 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:21:57am
134 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:22:35am

I'm outta' here.

135 Rodan[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:23:16am
136 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:24:43am

re: #131 savage_nation

going through the chicken coops with a banged up truck is always fun.

137 saberry0530  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:25:19am

re: #135 Rodan

re: #130 FoolsMate

Yup.
There are Democrats who are anti-Islamist.
They realize Jihadism isn't a Progressive force.
However the Democrats right now are controlled by the Pro-Jihad Left.
They view Islam-ism as a 3rd world revolutionary forcevoting block.

Fixed that for ya!

138 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:25:54am

Just heard on Rush:
You could vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.

139 akak  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:25:55am

re: #135 Rodan

140 Rodan[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:26:27am
141 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:26:36am

re: #138 newsjunkie_ky

Just heard on Rush:
You could vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.

Well- he does read LGF.

142 akak  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:27:45am

oops

"they are good people"

Can't believe he said that, and as the jihad goes so does pandering.

143 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:28:15am

re: #141 Sharmuta

re: #138 newsjunkie_ky


Just heard on Rush:
You could vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.

Well- he does read LGF.

Really? RUSH can I write jokes for you?

144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:28:27am

Muslim tart? I love baklava!

145 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:28:31am

/fat chance

146 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:29:09am
147 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:29:57am
148 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:30:34am

The Republican campaign is a sideshow-check back later for real news. The blood letting is in the Hillary Obama furball.

149 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:30:34am

re: #136 bulwrk

Like a have a great big INSPECT ME sign hanging on the grill.

After the first, when you you the "PARK BRING PAPERS" sign, you bring the paper work and show 'em.

In WA if a rig had a full check in the last 3 months it gets a free pass. *at least that was rules when I was doing it*

150 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:31:06am
151 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:31:14am

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Rush, I am definitely funnier than him.

152 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:31:28am

Posted this in Links, but a seal from the first temple in Jerusalem has been found. Muslims seething to begin soon.

153 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:31:32am

5,000 spinoff links... and not one (that I've seen) about Brittany Spears. I'm proud of the lizard community.

155 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:32:14am

re: #141 Sharmuta

re: #138 newsjunkie_ky


Just heard on Rush:
You could vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.

Well- he does read LGF.


If the hildabeast gets the nomination, I think I'll use this as my email signature.

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:32:37am
157 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:32:58am

Cool old pic (July 1939) of folks on the porch of a country store in Gordonton, NC (looks like about 50 miles northwest of Raleigh)...

158 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:33:13am
159 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:33:21am

re: #153 Lizard by the Bay

5,000 spinoff links... and not one (that I've seen) about Brittany Spears. I'm proud of the lizard community.

Here comes the spears-o-lanche. Please keep the crotch shots to a minimum, this is a family site.....

160 redstateredneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:33:56am

re: #138 newsjunkie_ky

Just heard on Rush:
You could vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.

But even funnier, it was a parody where it was Ross Perot saying it.
:D

161 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:33:56am
162 Catttt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:34:03am

re: #11 lawhawk

At least they didn't show a photo of the sex toy that caused the bomb threat.

That's funny. I was going to complain that they DIDN'T post a pic. :)

Rabbit?
Dildo?

Inquiring minds want to know.

163 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:34:11am
164 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:34:47am

re: #153 Lizard by the Bay

5,000 spinoff links... and not one (that I've seen) about Brittany Spears. I'm proud of the lizard community.

Heh

165 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:35:03am

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

re: #150 song_and_dance_man

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Gregorian Vegans?

I
have thought for some time that monasteries might consider taking a
leaf from the Indian reservations and use casino gambling as a means to
support themselves.

Come on, admit it--could you resist a casino called Gregorian Chance?

Some monastaries brew beer, the Christian Brothers make wine, so why not?

166 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:35:20am

re: #157 christheprofessor

Cool old pic (July 1939) of folks on the porch of a country store in Gordonton, NC (looks like about 50 miles northwest of Raleigh)...

Great pic.

167 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:35:43am

re: #157 christheprofessor

Cool old pic (July 1939) of folks on the porch of a country store in Gordonton, NC (looks like about 50 miles northwest of Raleigh)...

i love photography like this.
look at those trees used as porch posts.

168 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:35:47am

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

Gregorian Chance?

:-)

170 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:36:04am

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

re: #151 Peacekeeper


re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Rush, I am definitely funnier than him.


No, you're not.
Yes I am.
171 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:36:11am
172 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:36:29am

re: #164 Peacekeeper

Yes, but are you willing to spin it off? :P

173 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:36:47am

re: #166 coquimbojoe

re: #167 nyc redneck

It is a cool pic -- just made it my desktop. Lots of really cool old pics at Shorpy... Great place to waste a few hours...

174 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:37:26am

re: #161 song_and_dance_man

re: #154 coquimbojoe

Dishonesty hardly hurts a politician if what is lied about is acceptable to the constituents.

That's darn near a very memorable quote. Some deep thinking right there. No sarc tag, its a great point.

175 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:37:27am
176 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:38:59am

re: #157 christheprofessor

gas twenty two cents a gallon, nice.

177 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:40:46am

Hillary Clinton goes into a bar with a giraffe, they both get a couple of rounds in. When they get up to leave they're extremely drunk and the giraffe passes out and falls over. Hillary opens the door, about to leave by herself, when the bartender stops her suddenly and says, "Hey! You can't leave that lyin' there!" Hillary turns around , "Don't be silly, that's not a lion, that's a giraffe

178 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:40:57am

re: #176 bulwrk

re: #157 christheprofessor

gas twenty two cents a gallon, nice.

My father, who is 87, says he can remember getting 11 gallons for a dollar...

179 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:41:09am

Jeebus, did anybody link this piece at the American Thinker yet?

Obama and Israel

I thought maybe Obama was just a decent character with empty rhetoric. Turns out he's a flat-out lefty loon in statesman's clothing. Jimmy Carter and John Kerry's policy people are advising him on Israel!

The armies of darkness are on the march again... G-d save us from this fool.

180 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:42:04am

Force Protection Inc.'s Corporate Overview

I get a bit of a kick out of the fact that one of their partners in this process is Caterpillar.

181 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:42:44am

re: #179 Pawn of the Oppressor

I thought maybe Obama was just a decent character with empty rhetoric. Turns out he's a flat-out lefty loon in statesman's clothing.

I don't mean to offend, but... You just figured that out?!?

182 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:43:21am
183 Catttt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:43:52am

re: #164 Peacekeeper

re: #153 Lizard by the Bay


5,000 spinoff links... and not one (that I've seen) about Brittany Spears. I'm proud of the lizard community.

Heh

I could have sworn I saw one about her new squeeze, a three-timing fortune hunter - - - not that I actually CARE about that....

184 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:46:20am

re: #175 savage_nation

That help.

I always tried to cut breaks to truckers. Except where it was a serious safety issue.

Worst case was a driver out of New York with a suspended license, after a little work I found he had licenses in three States all suspended. His "co-driver" with a false license was 16 years old.

That leaves me with a refer sitting at my scale with no drivers. I call the company they don't have anyone west of the Mississippi. I finally call the Seattle teamsters local, and have them call the company to arrange a driver to finish the trip.

I forget the company, after that company's rigs couldn't cross into WA without a anal exam on both the rig and the drivers.

On the other hand some company's your's included (you mentioned it when you switched a while back) weren't worth stopping because they ran a tight shop.

185 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:46:25am

Hillary Clinton goes campaigning in a New Hampshire Diner, as she walks in the owner greets her. "We love you!, You'r husband was here in 1992 and we named a sandwich after him."
"Who would order a Shithead sandwich?" asks Hill.

186 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:47:16am

re: #183 Catttt

I could have sworn I saw one about her new squeeze, a three-timing fortune hunter - - - not that I actually CARE about that....

Possibly because her new boyfriend is likely a member of the RoP, given his ethnicity. But yeah, Britanny going muz... lets just say it wouldn't make things any worse at this point. Bottom is bottom.

187 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:47:43am
188 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:49:29am

re: #182 song_and_dance_man

re: #178 christheprofessor


re: #176 bulwrk

re: #157 christheprofessor

gas twenty two cents a gallon, nice.


My father, who is 87, says he can remember getting 11 gallons for a dollar...

Every one has these stories.

When I was a kid my dad would give me a quarter for a gallon of gas to mow the lawn and I would return with change.

When I was a kid, my father sold a VW bus that we had to a friend of his for a dollar (the bus had thrown a rod, the guy was buying it for his kid to work on and get back on the road) -- I guess there had to be consideration for tax purposes. He turned around and handed me the dollar, then told me to walk up to the local Dairy Barn and get a half-gallon of ice cream....

189 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:50:37am

re: #178 christheprofessor

I remember as a kid my father handing the attendant 5 bucks to fill up his 1958 Plymouth Belvedere.

190 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:50:44am

re: #59 Ma Sands

One more thing, Charles:

Sometimes I open one of those links, and want so much to comment, and discuss it with Lizards......and cannot, because threads can't come off those links unless you decide to capture one and put it out here on the home page.....


Oh! Duh....just goes to show how slowly I think........I could merely copy in here, any link, and start the conversation.....

191 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:51:35am

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Of course, we tend to forget that in those days $10,000 was a decent salary, that you could buy a house for $20,000 (or less), that a car, or a year's college tuition, ran between $2000 and $3000.

And to take the ferry cost a nickel; and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. "Give me five bees for a quarter", you'd say.

192 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:51:37am
193 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:51:54am
194 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:52:44am

Now this is a cool pic -- four hands on a guitar (from 1942). What is also cool is that the kids of two of the people in the pic have found it on-line and posted below it.

195 FoolsMate  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:53:01am

re: #189 bulwrk

Oh the nostalgia for the good ole days....to hell with no cell phones, no high speed internet, and no HDTV.

196 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:53:16am

re: #181 Lizard by the Bay

I don't mean to offend, but... You just figured that out?!?

I haven't been paying any attention to him. I was waiting for him to implode, or for Hillary to eat him alive, but now that he's officially 50% of the Democrat's race I figured I'd watch the debate, read the articles, and try to get a handle on this guy.

They are doing a very, very good job of smokescreening him in the MSM. His minister is a black supremacist, his brother is a f-cking African jihadist and he's being advised by Jew-hating Carterites. And as always, all he has to do is promise free health care...

I swear, we'd elect Osama president if he just promised everyone free health care.

197 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:53:19am
198 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:53:20am
199 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:53:40am

re: #153 Lizard by the Bay

Don't hold your breath. I think I did a Britney post once or twice - under law...

200 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:54:11am

re: #189 bulwrk

re: #178 christheprofessor

I remember as a kid my father handing the attendant 5 bucks to fill up his 1958 Plymouth Belvedere.

I recall my maternal grandfather saying how he could go into a grocery store with $5, come out two bags stuffed to overflowing, and still have change left...

201 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:54:48am

Hillary Clinton hired a Priest and a Rabbi as chaplains/spiritual advisors at her campaign headquarters. One day as the two are chatting into the lobby staggers a drunk Bill Clinton. They put out their arms to steady him. " Get your hands off me I'm the second coming!" slurs the former President.
" No, son, you're not" says the Priest firmly.
"Oy" says the Rabbi.
"Just watch me." says Bill, and he pushes past them and kicks open the door to Hillary's office.
"Jesus Christ are you drunk again?" She shouts.

202 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:54:56am

re: #198 savage_nation

Heck, I can remember back to the beginning of this decade that gas in North Jersey was at or around $1. The price for a barrel was under $20.

203 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:55:19am
204 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:55:43am

Oh, hell, I remember back when three or four raccoon hats, traded to the local Indians, could get you a '40 Plasma HDTV. Those were the days.

205 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:01am

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

re: #145 Peacekeeper


/fat chance

Fat chants? How about, "I will not eat lasaaaaaaaaagnaaaaaaaaa!"?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAAA

206 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:02am
207 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:21am
208 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:24am

re: #193 savage_nation

Told him he could drive, let him use the phone to call a cab. After I called his company they wanted to talk with him, his side of the conversation was a series of "uh-huh's" I think they fired him over the phone.

I wasn't too worried about him, or the company that couldn't screen it's drivers. Who ever shipped 40,000 lbs of frozen seafood was gonna' get screwed it I didn't find someone move the truck.

209 FoolsMate  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:29am

re: #189 bulwrk

re: #178 christheprofessor

I remember as a kid my father handing the attendant 5 bucks to fill up his 1958 Plymouth Belvedere.

My mom told me she used to have to pluck chickens after her mom (my grandma) twisted its head off.

210 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:32am

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

lol

211 cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:56:35am

re: #64 BuddyG

Another awesome woman

I'd love to shake her hand and buy her dinner. You go, sister!

/former USAF E-5

212 Orde  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:57:06am

It's one of his most boring videos actually, but muslim YouTuber Obaid Karki is still at it encouraging Paulians to lift their heads up and not believe in the conspiracy theories about ties with white supremacists: "This is not the End of Ron Paul. This is revolution.".

213 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:57:13am
214 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:57:58am
215 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:58:06am

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

re: #200 christheprofessor


I recall my maternal grandfather saying how he could go into a grocery store with $5, come out two bags stuffed to overflowing, and still have change left...

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards

Heh. Knowing what their fiscal policies would be, I think it's more like Charge!

216 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:59:00am

re: #204 Occasional Reader

Oh, hell, I remember back when three or four raccoon hats, traded to the local Indians, could get you a '40 Plasma HDTV. Those were the days.

I've seen dagguerotypes of those old fur & electronics outposts on the old frontier.

217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 11:59:38am

re: #191 Occasional Reader

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Of
course, we tend to forget that in those days $10,000 was a decent
salary, that you could buy a house for $20,000 (or less), that a car,
or a year's college tuition, ran between $2000 and $3000.

And
to take the ferry cost a nickel; and in those days, nickels had
pictures of bumblebees on them. "Give me five bees for a quarter",
you'd say.

I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time... of course, you couldn't get yellow onions on account of the war, so I had to use a red onion... and turkeys were known as "walking birds"...
/Abe Simpson - instant comedy

218 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:00:01pm

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

We tend to view those cheap prices of the past in terms of the vastly larger sums we make today

With everything, perspective.

219 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:00:20pm

re: #213 savage_nation

Just the next valley south of where I am. (Santa Clarita Valley)

220 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:00:32pm

re: #216 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've seen dagguerotypes of those old fur & electronics outposts on the old frontier.

Pone, Pelts & Beyond was my favorite.


/yep, stolen from The Simpsons, but what else is new

221 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:00:47pm

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

re: #200 christheprofessor


I recall my maternal grandfather saying how he could go into a grocery store with $5, come out two bags stuffed to overflowing, and still have change left...

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards


War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

222 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:01:02pm
223 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:01:34pm
224 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:01:43pm
225 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:02:07pm

Of course, nowadays I can call friends in South America for like three cents a minute. You couldn't do that "back in the day".

226 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:02:45pm

re: #222 savage_nation

re: #218 Silhouette


re: #187 buzzsawmonkey


We tend to view those cheap prices of the past in terms of the vastly larger sums we make today

With everything, perspective.

It's still fun reminiscing

Yup. I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had to get up to change the channel!"

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:03:36pm
228 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:03:50pm

re: #224 song_and_dance_man

Yes, that would be cool to have. My father had a Chevelle that he sold to a friend (who wrapped it around a tree) -- he wishes he'd never gotten rid of it...

229 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:03:51pm

Nostalgia was so much better when I was young. I miss that.

230 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:04:18pm

re: #223 savage_nation

Nope - moved out here as an adult. My daughter will be going to a newer High School in the Hart district when she reaches HS age....

231 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:04:27pm

re: #223 savage_nation

I went to Hart!

232 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:04:38pm

re: #214 savage_nation

I mentioned him before but my super was pissed I spent so much time getting the someone to take the load.

One of the reasons he always gave me shitty performance reports. He wanted to hang as much paper, as fast as possible on the truckers.

233 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:04:46pm
234 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:04:57pm
235 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:07pm

re: #200 christheprofessor

re: #189 bulwrk


re: #178 christheprofessor

I remember as a kid my father handing the attendant 5 bucks to fill up his 1958 Plymouth Belvedere.


I recall my maternal grandfather saying how he could go into a grocery store with $5, come out two bags stuffed to overflowing, and still have change left...

We could only dream of having grocery bags.

236 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:12pm
237 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:15pm

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Of course, nowadays I can call friends in South America for like three cents a minute. You couldn't do that "back in the day".

You know the Judge ordered you to stop that.

238 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:18pm

How 'bout a more recent reminisce?

Circa 1987, the gas station across the street would give away a coffee or coke with an eight dollar fill-up.

I couldn't fit eight dollars in my tank! (unless I came in on fumes and bought supreme.)

239 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:18pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

re: #226 christheprofessor


Yup. I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had to get up to change the channel!"

Freak 'em out by showing them a dial phone.

Years ago, a fellow doctoral student was at a computer store with her kids. She overheard one call the other over and say, "Look at this -- this keyboards attached directly to this printer!"

It was a typewriter...

240 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:23pm

re: #224 song_and_dance_man

Wasn't a 21 window was it? Those things are worth a few bucks now.

241 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:05:53pm
242 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:06:11pm

re: #229 ec marm

Nostalgia was so much better when I was young. I miss that.

Youth is wasted on the young. (I can't recall who said that)

243 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:06:15pm

re: #239 christheprofessor

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey


re: #226 christheprofessor

Yup. I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had to get up to change the channel!"

Freak 'em out by showing them a dial phone.

Years ago, a fellow doctoral student was at a computer store with her kids. She overheard one call the other over and say, "Look at this -- this keyboards attached directly to this printer!"

It was a typewriter...

LOL

244 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:07:11pm

re: #83 Alouette

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #78 ploome hineni


re: #75 MandyManners


re: #73 ploome hineni
You and your husband should be allowed to run dressed according to the dictates of your religion.


and seikh should run wearing that turban?
and buddhists wearing a yellow toga?


Yep.

And Wiccans can run skyclad.

And nudists wearing...never mind.

245 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:07:54pm

Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar.

One says, 'I think I've lost an electron.'

The other says 'Are you sure?'

The first says, 'Yes, I'm positive.'

246 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:07:55pm

re: #236 savage_nation

class of 77

247 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:12pm

re: #234 savage_nation

Heh. Now that's funny...

248 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:36pm

re: #102 MandyManners

re: #99 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey


re: #83 Alouette


And Wiccans can run skyclad.


Is this a euphemism for being starkers?
I may want my candidate to have "nothing to hide," but there are limits.


Yeah, especially with the current crop of candidates.
Ewwww.

You don't wanna' see Ron Paul nekkid?

OH THE PAIN! BRAIN BLEACH!

249 The Other Les  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:37pm

re: #243 Athos

re: #239 christheprofessor

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey


re: #226 christheprofessor


Yup. I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had to get up to change the channel!"


Freak 'em out by showing them a dial phone.


Years ago, a fellow doctoral student was at a computer store with her kids. She overheard one call the other over and say, "Look at this -- this keyboards attached directly to this printer!"It was a typewriter...

LOL

[grin]

250 Catttt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:49pm

re: #186 Lizard by the Bay

re: #183 Catttt


I could have sworn I saw one about her new squeeze, a three-timing fortune hunter - - - not that I actually CARE about that....

Possibly because her new boyfriend is likely a member of the RoP, given his ethnicity. But yeah, Britanny going muz... lets just say it wouldn't make things any worse at this point. Bottom is bottom.

She hasn't bounced yet and is surrounded by enablers with their paws out for tips. Sort of an inevitable slide from the height of tittilating teen trailer trash (no offense if you live in a mobile home) to over the hill rich druggie. At least it looks like her mom won't be publishing that book on how to be a good mom (seriously, she was writing one). Not-that-I-care-about-that-in-any-way.

251 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:50pm

re: #217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #191 Occasional Reader


re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Of
course, we tend to forget that in those days $10,000 was a decent
salary, that you could buy a house for $20,000 (or less), that a car,
or a year's college tuition, ran between $2000 and $3000.

And
to take the ferry cost a nickel; and in those days, nickels had
pictures of bumblebees on them. "Give me five bees for a quarter",
you'd say.

I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time... of course, you couldn't get yellow onions on account of the war, so I had to use a red onion... and turkeys were known as "walking birds"...
/Abe Simpson - instant comedy

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH You had me at 'onion'...

252 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:54pm

I remember waaay back in the 'Aughts, when there was no registration, and there was no reply function, and you had to html all by yourself.

And the onion on the belt, of course.

253 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:08:58pm
254 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:09:02pm

re: #235 debutaunt

Heh.

255 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:09:05pm

re: #242 christheprofessor
Life would be infinitely happier if we could only be born at the age of eighty and gradually approach eighteen.
Mark Twain

256 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:09:47pm
257 rappmandu  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:09:50pm

Hesham Islam's fellow Navy and fellow USS Samuel B. Roberts serviceman Gordan E. Van Hook attacks people questioning firing of Army Reservist Major and Islamic Law expert Stephen Coughlin, plays "race" card, and defends decision not to renew contract.

Gordon England, Navy
Hesham Islam, Navy (served on USS Samuel B. Roberts)
Gordan E. Van Hook, Navy (served on USS Samuel B. Roberts)

258 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:09:51pm
259 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:10:30pm

re: #226 christheprofessor

re: #222 savage_nation


re: #218 Silhouette

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey


We tend to view those cheap prices of the past in terms of the vastly larger sums we make today

With everything, perspective.

It's still fun reminiscing

Yup. I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had to get up to change the channel!"

Wow! Multiple channels!

260 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:11:19pm
261 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:12:42pm

re: #251 debutaunt

We used to have walking bird every Thanksgiving until Ought-6, when the Kaiser took them all away. Of course back then, Thanksgiving was known as Crenshaw's Day,... we watched football all day long, but they played footbal with a small round ball & a bat, we called it "America Ball"....

262 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:13:03pm

re: #253 savage_nation

sorry no.

263 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:13:35pm

re: #122 savage_nation

This is the sort of comment that gets cherry picked by Kos to 'prove' what total bigots Lizards supposedly are.

264 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:13:36pm
265 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:13:57pm

re: #261 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #251 debutaunt

We used to have walking bird every Thanksgiving until Ought-6, when the Kaiser took them all away. Of course back then, Thanksgiving was known as Crenshaw's Day,... we watched football all day long, but they played footbal with a small round ball & a bat, we called it "America Ball"....

Right, but all that was simply because y'all were doing a lot of drugs.

266 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:14:33pm
267 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:14:39pm
268 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:15:12pm

re: #255 ec marm

I believe he's correct...

re: #256 savage_nation

Yeah... Somebody posted on another blog that some folks were born in an analog world and never adapted to digital, some born in analog and adapted quite nicely to digital, and some born into digital (and as you point out, are quite ignorant of analog)...

269 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:15:40pm

re: #265 Occasional Reader

No, I do a lot of drugs these days. The nurses stand there & watch me to make sure of it.

270 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:15:46pm

re: #261 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #251 debutaunt

We used to have walking bird every Thanksgiving until Ought-6, when the Kaiser took them all away. Of course back then, Thanksgiving was known as Crenshaw's Day,... we watched football all day long, but they played footbal with a small round ball & a bat, we called it "America Ball"....

Daddy! I know this story!

271 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:16:03pm

Little Green Footballs was first started in 1983. It was by subscription and Charles would mail out his threads and we would write back with our responses. Then, at the end of the month Charles would gather up all the letters and roll joints with them- Because it was the eighties and he was a musician.
Things work much better now.

272 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:16:33pm

re: #226 christheprofessor

A few years ago I was having one of the standard Dad v Teenager discussions.

"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"You sound like a broken record!"
"What?"
"I said, you sound like a broken record."
"What has breaking a record got to do with this?"

I looked at her, and saw that she had absolutely no idea of what I was talking about. She had never played a record. Never heard a scratch repeat. I was stunned...and felt obsolete.

Progress.

273 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:16:40pm
274 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:16:49pm
275 godfrey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:17:15pm

re: #271 Peacekeeper

we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

276 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:17:21pm

re: #267 song_and_dance_man

re: #228 christheprofessor


re: #224 song_and_dance_man

Yes, that would be cool to have. My father had a Chevelle that he sold to a friend (who wrapped it around a tree) -- he wishes he'd never gotten rid of it...


My brothers mother in law had a 72 chevelle that I admired for years and she knew that I wanted it when she was done with it.

Well I eventually got it in 1986 with 32,000 miles only. I rebuilt the engine since it had never gone faster than 55 mph. My ex-wife didn't want to keep it since our son was born and it only had two doors. Like my guns, chevelle and wife I have none of them now.

Should have gotten rid of the wife first -- then you'd still have the Chevelle and your guns... (I have a gun safe for when there are kids in the house)...

277 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:17:36pm
278 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:17:42pm

re: #272 M. Bensson-Levi

re: #226 christheprofessor

A few years ago I was having one of the standard Dad v Teenager discussions.

"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"You sound like a broken record!"
"What?"
"I said, you sound like a broken record."
"What has breaking a record got to do with this?"

I looked at her, and saw that she had absolutely no idea of what I was talking about. She had never played a record. Never heard a scratch repeat. I was stunned...and felt obsolete.

Progress.

"Dad! you sound like 404 Server error!"

279 neocon hippie  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:17:43pm

re: #196 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #181 Lizard by the Bay

I don't mean to offend, but... You just figured that out?!?

I haven't been paying any attention to him. I was waiting for him to implode, or for Hillary to eat him alive, but now that he's officially 50% of the Democrat's race I figured I'd watch the debate, read the articles, and try to get a handle on this guy.

They are doing a very, very good job of smokescreening him in the MSM. His minister is a black supremacist, his brother is a f-cking African jihadist and he's being advised by Jew-hating Carterites. And as always, all he has to do is promise free health care...

I swear, we'd elect Osama president if he just promised everyone free health care.

Actually, it's Barry Hussein's cousin, not brother. I don't think jihadist is the proper term either as it seems to be nasty tribal warfare a la Rwanda.

280 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:18:12pm

re: #275 godfrey

re: #271 Peacekeeper

we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

In pencil.

281 godfrey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:18:44pm

re: #278 Peacekeeper

Heh. Instead of "AWOL", do kids say "he was 404 today"?

282 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:18:48pm

re: #275 godfrey

re: #271 Peacekeeper

we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

Always a #2 pencil.

283 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:18:59pm

re: #272 M. Bensson-Levi

re: #226 christheprofessor

A few years ago I was having one of the standard Dad v Teenager discussions.

"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"You sound like a broken record!"
"What?"
"I said, you sound like a broken record."
"What has breaking a record got to do with this?"

I looked at her, and saw that she had absolutely no idea of what I was talking about. She had never played a record. Never heard a scratch repeat. I was stunned...and felt obsolete.

Progress.

Heh. You should have told her, "You sound like a skipping CD!"

284 godfrey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:19:37pm

re: #282 debutaunt#2 pencils?

They upgraded?

285 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:20:20pm

re: #273 song_and_dance_man

21 window had the skylight windows on the curve of the roof, and a set in the very back.

286 godfrey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:20:23pm

I remember when quills were in beta.

287 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:20:43pm

re: #284 godfrey

re: #282 debutaunt#2 pencils?

They upgraded?

Godfrey Daniel, you are always unprepared!

288 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:20:55pm
289 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:21:04pm

re: #280 Peacekeeper

re: #275 godfrey


re: #271 Peacekeeper
we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

In pencil.

And send them to:

Charles Johnson
Rural Free Delivery, Box 666
Los Ang-gulleeze, California Territories

We could only dream of "ZIP" codes.

290 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:21:26pm

I was watching an '80s movie with my 13yo niece & one of the characters was in some sort of jam & my niece asked "why doesn't he just use his cell phone & call someone?" I had to explain that back then, cell phones were the size of suitcases & only the 5 richest kings of Europe could afford them.

291 godfrey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:21:48pm

re: #287 debutaunt

Next you'll be telling me that cursive is somehow "dated."

292 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:22:01pm
293 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:22:09pm

No excuses for the young. I have never blown up a petard, but I understand the phrase hoist by his own petard.

;-)

294 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:22:11pm

re: #289 Occasional Reader

re: #280 Peacekeeper


re: #275 godfrey

re: #271 Peacekeeper
we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

In pencil.

And send them to:

Charles Johnson
Rural Free Delivery, Box 666
Los Ang-gulleeze, California Territories

We could only dream of "ZIP" codes.

It was tough back then, but we loved it.

295 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:22:30pm

re: #291 godfrey

re: #287 debutaunt

Next you'll be telling me that cursive is somehow "dated."

It is?

296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:22:46pm

re: #285 jcm

re: #273 song_and_dance_man

21 window had the skylight windows on the curve of the roof, and a set in the very back.

According to the website, that's a 23 window bus. You forgot about the split windshield.

297 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:23:11pm
298 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:23:19pm

re: #293 Silhouette

No excuses for the young. I have never blown up a petard, but I understand the phrase hoist by his own petard.

;-)

Actually, it's still the modern French word for a firecracker. Also very similar in Spanish (petardo).

299 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:23:32pm

re: #291 godfrey,

Cursing is never outdated.

300 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:23:38pm

re: #290 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I was watching an '80s movie with my 13yo niece & one of the characters was in some sort of jam & my niece asked "why doesn't he just use his cell phone & call someone?" I had to explain that back then, cell phones were the size of suitcases & only the 5 richest kings of Europe could afford them.

It's so funny to see how dated pre-cellphone movies are. Looking for a payphone that works and having the change for it.

301 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:23:57pm

re: #274 savage_nation

re: #268 christheprofessor


re: #255 ec marm

I believe he's correct...

re: #256 savage_nation

Yeah... Somebody posted on another blog that some folks were born in an analog world and never adapted to digital, some born in analog and adapted quite nicely to digital, and some born into digital (and as you point out, are quite ignorant of analog)...


Well, kids (at least the ones I know) have no other frame of reference

Very true. I have to explain the difference between analog and digital in my classes...

302 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:24:16pm

re: #272 M. Bensson-Levi

A young friend of mine was over to my house after I was given a new record player for Christmas to replace the one that had worn out over the years.........my friend acted just as I did when I tried to learn a CD player......she stood there holding the arm and said, "Now what do I do?", and when I told her, she put the needle down on the record so tentatively and said, "Like this?" in such a worried tone I could not help giggling..... :)

303 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:24:41pm
304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:25:21pm

re: #286 godfrey

I remember when quills were in beta.

I remember when we had to use mud and mulched fruit on hides

305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:25:36pm

re: #300 debutaunt

re: #290 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I was
watching an '80s movie with my 13yo niece & one of the characters
was in some sort of jam & my niece asked "why doesn't he just use
his cell phone & call someone?" I had to explain that back then,
cell phones were the size of suitcases & only the 5 richest kings
of Europe could afford them.

It's so funny to see how dated pre-cellphone movies are. Looking for a payphone that works and having the change for it.

You watch some of the older X-files episodes & they writers always have an early scene were the cell phones are "out of range", so they can just get on with the rest of the story.

306 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:25:48pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

re: #300 debutaunt


It's so funny to see how dated pre-cellphone movies are. Looking for a payphone that works and having the change for it.

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards

I love my job as set-up for you.

307 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:25:50pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards

I'll vote for whoever can give me five bees for a quarter.

308 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:03pm

re: #242 christheprofessor

re: #229 ec marm

Nostalgia was so much better when I was young. I miss that.

Youth is wasted on the young. (I can't recall who said that)

That would be RIVER PHOENIX.

309 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:03pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Having network issues a lot of site aren't loading so I just grabbed he link. Which is a real pain. I doing early design work and I can't get the datasheets to find the best parts for the design.

LFG new comments works and google, nothing else. I yelled at the IT guys and they said the problem is in CA not here.

310 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:17pm
311 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:32pm

re: #226 christheprofessor

My dad wouldn't have a remote. He always said, "The day I'm too lazy to tell my kids to get up and change the channel..."

312 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:43pm

re: #305 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

writers always have an early scene were the cell phones are "out of range",

If you think that's an anachronism, obviously you aren't using AT&T Wireless!

313 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:46pm

re: #293 Silhouette

No excuses for the young. I have never blown up a petard, but I understand the phrase hoist by his own petard.

;-)

It's also related to flatulence. Hence the LGF insult of a few years ago, "I petard in your general direction!"

314 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:52pm

re: #179 Pawn of the Oppressor

Jeebus, did anybody link this piece at the American Thinker yet?

Obama and Israel

I thought maybe Obama was just a decent character with empty rhetoric. Turns out he's a flat-out lefty loon in statesman's clothing. Jimmy Carter and John Kerry's policy people are advising him on Israel!

The armies of darkness are on the march again... G-d save us from this fool.

It was posted earlier today, and I posted it yesterday.
Great article, although I think us lizards already knew most of it.
All this stuff the MSM doesn't tell us.

315 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:56pm

re: #212 Orde

It's one of his most boring videos actually, but muslim YouTuber Obaid Karki is still at it encouraging Paulians to lift their heads up and not believe in the conspiracy theories about ties with white supremacists: "This is not the End of Ron Paul. This is revolution.".

i have such a visceral instant distrust of this joker and it's not just because of the arafat style head rag.

316 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:26:58pm

re: #301 christheprofessor

Very true. I have to explain the difference between analog and digital in my classes...

Remember back when fingers were still analog? A handjob took half the night.

317 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:27:02pm

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Younguns' I remember chiseling on stone....

318 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:27:46pm
319 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:27:52pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

re: #300 debutaunt

It's so funny to see how dated pre-cellphone movies are. Looking for a payphone that works and having the change for it.

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards

There's a bunch of homeless guys downdown who say "change" all the time & I wouldn't vote for them for President, either.

320 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:06pm
321 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:07pm

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #286 godfrey


I remember when quills were in beta.

I remember when we had to use mud and mulched fruit on hides

I had to explain to a teenager just the other day what a "hide" even was. "Hide! Hide! You know, the cow's outside!" I exclaimed. "Shit, I ain't afraid of no cow", he replied.

322 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:28pm

re: #308 M. Bensson-Levi,

River Phoenix wouldn't eat meat. He couldn't figure out how you injected it.

323 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:36pm

re: #317 jcm

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Younguns' I remember chiseling on stone....

pshaw, using tools, LUXURY!

324 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:40pm

re: #271 Peacekeeper

Little Green Footballs was first started in 1983. It was by subscription and Charles would mail out his threads and we would write back with our responses. Then, at the end of the month Charles would gather up all the letters and roll joints with them- Because it was the eighties and he was a musician.
Things work much better now.


What do you think are on all those supertankers Charles posts every so often...

325 nikis-knight  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:28:57pm

re: #130 FoolsMate

This is a good sign for Republican presidential prospects. Security-hawk Democrats who vote Republican to fight militant Islam will be a key constituency we need to win this one. It's a good, interesting read from that perspective.

I spun-off his piece recently on each of the candidates statements about the Bhutto assassination, very good read (linked in your link as well).

326 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:01pm

re: #179 Pawn of the Oppressor

Excellent find, worthy of it's own thread. Obama is a bad, bad man.

327 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:03pm

re: #320 song_and_dance_man

I already have to....nobody of the younger ones, knows what they are.....

328 Alouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:11pm

re: #271 Peacekeeper

Little Green Footballs was first started in 1983. It was by subscription and Charles would mail out his threads and we would write back with our responses. Then, at the end of the month Charles would gather up all the letters and roll joints with them- Because it was the eighties and he was a musician.
Things work much better now.

Blogging in the 1850's

329 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:20pm

re: #308 M. Bensson-Levi

re: #242 christheprofessor


re: #229 ec marm

Nostalgia was so much better when I was young. I miss that.

Youth is wasted on the young. (I can't recall who said that)

That would be RIVER PHOENIX.

Couldn'ta been him -- he never got old enough to understand and/or appreciate that comment...

330 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:21pm

re: #320 song_and_dance_man

Soon we will have to describe 45's.

Record players with 33/45/78 confuse the newer generation.

331 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:50pm

re: #316 Peacekeeper

re: #301 christheprofessor

Very true. I have to explain the difference between analog and digital in my classes...

Remember back when fingers were still analog? A handjob took half the night.

On the serious side of that, we have trouble finding new engineers with analog experience, all the kids are sticking with digital. They forget the world is analog and when you interface the world with electronics you need..... analog.

332 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:29:56pm

re: #320 song_and_dance_man

Soon we will have to describe 45's.

Oh, that's easy: A single-action, semiautomatic handgun chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge. It was designed by John M. Browning, and was the standard-issue side arm for the United States armed forces from 1911 to 1985.

333 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:30:17pm

re: #321 Occasional Reader

I have a hard time sometimes at the deli counter when I say that I want 2/3 of a pound of something.... I get blank stares. Math is optional in schools these days.

334 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:30:19pm
335 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:30:23pm

re: #319 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey


re: #300 debutaunt

It's so funny to see how dated pre-cellphone movies are. Looking for a payphone that works and having the change for it.

Change!
/Hillary
/Obama
/Edwards

There's a bunch of homeless guys downdown who say "change" all the time & I wouldn't vote for them for President, either.


I love that. Think I may have to quote you again, if I may.

336 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:30:53pm

re: #278 Peacekeeper

re: #272 M. Bensson-Levi

re: #226 christheprofessor

A few years ago I was having one of the standard Dad v Teenager discussions.

"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"No."
"Come on!"
"You sound like a broken record!"
"What?"
"I said, you sound like a broken record."
"What has breaking a record got to do with this?"

I looked at her, and saw that she had absolutely no idea of what I was talking about. She had never played a record. Never heard a scratch repeat. I was stunned...and felt obsolete.

Progress.

"Dad! you sound like 404 Server error!"

:-)

337 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:31:27pm

Silhouette Jr. had on a next black jacket, and as he wore it, the collar stuck up. I said that he looked like Fonzie.

My employee said, "Who's Fonzie?"

338 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:31:46pm

re: #311 Former SSG

heh...

re: #316 Peacekeeper

re: #301 christheprofessor

Very true. I have to explain the difference between analog and digital in my classes...

Remember back when fingers were still analog? A handjob took half the night.

Well, analog hands didn't have digits. Hence, they were, technically, stumpjobs...

339 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:31:57pm
340 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:32:21pm

We're sounding like a bunch of old farts in the nursing home.

;-)

341 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:32:32pm

re: #291 godfrey

Cursive? Is that when you say a bad word when your computer screws up?

342 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:32:44pm

I hated Lawyers before this story and now I hate them even more....Thanks to Blackfive.net for posting this.

anti-military lawyer damages Marines car on eve of deployment.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

343 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:32:47pm

re: #323 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was just describing on i.m. this morning, to my daughter who was excited about fonts to use for her photo site updates, how I used to make headlines for my Dad's newspaper --exacto blade to cut each letter off the sticky sheet to put onto the page over each typewriter-typed article, and then print the whole page....... :) And that was after the hot-lead printing days..... :)

344 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:33:06pm
345 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:33:09pm

re: #333 lawhawk

Erm, I was just kidding about the "hide" story. (It's a very, very old joke... an analog joke, you might say)

346 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:33:34pm

re: #332 Occasional Reader

I for one was sad to see it go.

347 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:33:38pm

re: #332 Occasional Reader

Would that be a .45 mm?

/AP, Reuters

348 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:04pm

re: #309 jcm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Having network issues a lot of site aren't loading so I just grabbed he link. Which is a real pain. I doing early design work and I can't get the datasheets to find the best parts for the design.

LFG new comments works and google, nothing else. I yelled at the IT guys and they said the problem is in CA not here.

AHNOLD!

349 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:13pm
350 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:17pm

re: #318 buzzsawmonkey

Mine were pretty good for old folks - now I'm older than they were then. Wehere'd it all go?

351 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:24pm

re: #342 Maximu§

I hated Lawyers before this story and now I hate them even more....Thanks to Blackfive.net for posting this.

anti-military lawyer damages Marines car on eve of deployment.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Justice would be the ambulance chaser waking up in Parris Island.... to a blanket party.

352 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:29pm

re: #342 Maximu%uFFFD

I hated Lawyers before this story and now I hate them even more....Thanks to Blackfive.net for posting this.

anti-military lawyer damages Marines car on eve of deployment.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Well, Hitler was a watercolor painter, so I guess we should all hate painters, too.

A little perspective, please.

353 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:34:31pm

Boy were we poor, if I wasn't born a boy I would of had nothing to play with.

354 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:22pm

re: #353 Peacekeeper

Keyboard and coffee spew don't mix!

355 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:24pm

re: #302 Ma Sands

re: #272 M. Bensson-Levi

A young friend of mine was over to my house after I was given a new record player for Christmas to replace the one that had worn out over the years.........my friend acted just as I did when I tried to learn a CD player......she stood there holding the arm and said, "Now what do I do?", and when I told her, she put the needle down on the record so tentatively and said, "Like this?" in such a worried tone I could not help giggling..... :)

I come from that branch of the human family that only accepted FIRE three generations ago. I know how she felt.

356 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:27pm

re: #346 bulwrk

re: #332 Occasional Reader

I for one was sad to see it go.

It's not entirely gone... it was re-adopted by USMC Special Ops within the last six or seven years. Back to the future!

357 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:28pm

re: #344 savage_nation

I remember the prefixes had names attached to them. If you wanted to make a call, say from North Hollywood to Los Angeles, you would tell the operator, "I want to make a call to STATE 9960 and my number is POPLAR 5649.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

GLendale 3-2048

358 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:29pm

re: #353 Peacekeeper

There you go again, Mr. King of Your Own Castle!

359 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:43pm

Master of Your Own Domain!

360 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:58pm

My mom had a digital dishwasher, though; each of us kids had ten digits!

361 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:35:59pm

re: #337 Silhouette

Silhouette Jr. had on a next black jacket, and as he wore it, the collar stuck up. I said that he looked like Fonzie.

My employee said, "Who's Fonzie?"

Don't they teach history anymore? He freed the squares!

362 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:36:00pm

re: #344 savage_nation

I remember the prefixes had names attached to them. If you wanted to make a call, say from North Hollywood to Los Angeles, you would tell the operator, "I want to make a call to STATE 9960 and my number is POPLAR 5649.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

Not to mention that there were 'party' lines where you had to wait for a neighbor to finish before you could make your call.....

363 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:36:50pm

re: #286 godfrey

I remember when quills were in beta.

LOL!

364 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:36:54pm

re: #352 Occasional Reader

re: #342 Maximu©


I hated Lawyers before this story and now I hate them even more....Thanks to Blackfive.net for posting this.

anti-military lawyer damages Marines car on eve of deployment.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR


Well, Hitler was a watercolor painter, so I guess we should all hate painters, too.

A little perspective, please.

You must be a lawyer.....

365 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:11pm

re: #356 Occasional Reader

re: #346 bulwrk

re: #332 Occasional Reader

I for one was sad to see it go.

It's not entirely gone... it was re-adopted by USMC Special Ops within the last six or seven years. Back to the future!

Cool, I didn't know that! Considering our current enemies & why the .45 was designed in the first place, it makes sense.

366 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:15pm

re: #360 Former SSG

each of us kids had ten digits!

Luxury!

367 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:24pm

Heck, I remember when 8 tracks gave people fits - especially when those new fangled cassette tapes hit the streets. People would try to stick their 8-tracks into the cassette players (and vice versa) and couldn't figure out why all they got was ear-shredding static. /

368 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:24pm

re: #337 Silhouette

OY VEY.

To not know the Fonz? Now I really feel old.

369 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:32pm
370 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:41pm

re: #349 buzzsawmonkey

I pass time waiting in line at the checkout added the total and tax in my head (keeps the math wheels turning) when I tell the cashier the total and if I have it give her exact change, she give me a "look" then when she rings it up she looks at me again with total amazement.

371 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:43pm

re: #352 Occasional Reader

A guy walks into a bar, he has an alligator on a leash. " Do you serve lawyers here?" he asks the bartender.
"Sure."
" Well my gator will take two".

372 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:37:53pm

re: #364 Maximu%uFFFD

You must be a lawyer

Yep.

373 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:38:04pm
374 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:38:13pm
375 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:03pm

re: #354 Former SSG

re: #353 Peacekeeper

Keyboard and coffee spew don't mix!

Lunch time.... Keyboard & monitors and coffee Cheetos spew don't mix!

376 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:20pm

re: #322 Iron Fist

re: #308 M. Bensson-Levi,

River Phoenix wouldn't eat meat. He couldn't figure out how you injected it.

LMFAO!

377 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:28pm
378 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:29pm

re: #374 song_and_dance_man

re: #328 Alouette


re: #271 Peacekeeper

Little Green Footballs was first started in 1983. It was by subscription and Charles would mail out his threads and we would write back with our responses. Then, at the end of the month Charles would gather up all the letters and roll joints with them- Because it was the eighties and he was a musician.
Things work much better now.

Blogging in the 1850's

Back in the day when Rush was only heard locally in Sacramento we would download transcripts of his show over the local BBS's to hear/read what he had to say.

It was a full year or so after that when we could hear him on KFI.

We also were amazed that we could send messages via the BBS's that later bacame email even though it took two days to get a response.

No fresh horses?

379 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:32pm

re: #343 Ma Sands

re: #323 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was just describing on i.m. this morning, to my daughter who was excited about fonts to use for her photo site updates, how I used to make headlines for my Dad's newspaper --exacto blade to cut each letter off the sticky sheet to put onto the page over each typewriter-typed article, and then print the whole page....... :) And that was after the hot-lead printing days..... :)


I did something similar when I worked for the college newspaper. Type into a computer that converted it to dots then feed it into another computer that printed it in columns. If you made a mistake you typed it up, printed it, cut it with the exacto and pasted it on. Guess it was the first 'cut and paste'.

380 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:41pm

re: #349 buzzsawmonkey

Nope. These folks wouldn't understand Hex, Binary, or any other mathematical system.

It's new math. They feel for a correct weight. If they feel okay, I get about what I ask for. If not, well.. who knows...

381 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:39:42pm
382 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:13pm

Times change. When I was a teen, digital sex meant you were both in the same place.

383 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:17pm

OK, so I'm going down to my friends new bar tonight. 48 microbrews on tap! ...(Sorry, what was I saying?) Anyway, starting the weekend early and looking forward to it.

384 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:17pm

Pennsylvania 6-5000.

385 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:36pm

re: #355 M. Bensson-Levi

:)

386 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:41pm

re: #375 jcm

I'm actually on butterscotch krimpets... I'm in shape, round is a shape, but soon I think I will be oval...

387 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:52pm

re: #351 jcm

re: #342 Maximu§


I hated Lawyers before this story and now I hate them even more....Thanks to Blackfive.net for posting this.

anti-military lawyer damages Marines car on eve of deployment.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR


Justice would be the ambulance chaser waking up in Parris Island.... to a blanket party.

Amen brother. I hope the this POS lawyer gets punsished to the full extent of the law.

388 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:40:58pm

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

389 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:41:06pm

re: #384 Silhouette

Pennsylvania 6-5000.

Oh Oh Oh.

390 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:41:19pm

Today, people will look at you funny if you say that you used a BBS, or know what Gopher or Usenet is. /explains the stares

391 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:41:22pm

re: #365 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #356 Occasional Reader


re: #346 bulwrk

re: #332 Occasional Reader

I for one was sad to see it go.


It's not entirely gone... it was re-adopted by USMC Special Ops within the last six or seven years. Back to the future!

Cool, I didn't know that! Considering our current enemies & why the .45 was designed in the first place, it makes sense.

Kimber MCSOCOM ICQB

"A thing of beauty is a joy forever."

392 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:41:49pm
393 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:42:03pm
394 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:42:11pm

re: #329 christheprofessor

re: #308 M. Bensson-Levi

re: #242 christheprofessor


re: #229 ec marm


Nostalgia was so much better when I was young. I miss that.


Youth is wasted on the young. (I can't recall who said that)


That would be RIVER PHOENIX.

Couldn'ta been him -- he never got old enough to understand and/or appreciate that comment...

Now, chris...

395 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:42:16pm

re: #275 godfrey

re: #271 Peacekeeper

we would write back with our responses

In pencil.

In crayon.

396 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:42:20pm
397 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:42:40pm

Omar bin Laden: Peace Envoy

More crap from the AP.

398 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:43:04pm
399 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:43:29pm

re: #369 savage_nation

My PARENTS' was FEderal 2667.....young'un! :)

400 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:43:55pm

re: #389 debutaunt

Track 29!

Actually, me and the hubby had to spend a night in Chattanooga last week, and I wanted to stay in the choo-choo, but it wasn't worth it for a business trip.

401 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:44:13pm

In the seventies it took an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes.

402 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:44:19pm
403 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:44:22pm

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

re: #289 Occasional Reader

We could only dream of "ZIP" codes.

Before the ZIP code was invented, we had to use button codes.

The next step will be Velcro codes.

404 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:44:38pm

re: #388 bulwrk

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

Big rubber.....
Saved scuffing the tires they lasted longer.
It's a conspiracy man.
/

405 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:44:42pm
406 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:02pm

Pardon me, boy, is this the Transylvania station?

"Yes! Yes!"

407 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:26pm

THIS IS REALLY FUNNY

It's linked upstairs.

Ezra Levant-Things You Didn't Know

408 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:29pm

re: #398 savage_nation

re: #388 bulwrk

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

Why dont kids put a playing card in the spokes anymore?

HAH! I showed the boys that last summer, couldn't get them off their trikes.

409 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:30pm

When I lived in NJ, we couldn't call out of a certain circle without being charged. Now I can call Bosnia or Germany for 8 cents a minute. My grandmother had one of the last party lines - in the 80's. She loved gadgets, and missed all the cool stuff I take for granted. What a shame.

410 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:46pm

re: #299 Iron Fist

re: #291 godfrey,

Cursing is never outdated.

That's why we still have a 'cursor' on our computers.

411 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:47pm

I'm at the age where I want two girls. In case I fall asleep they will have someone to talk to.

412 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:45:59pm

re: #397 JammieWearingFool

What's up with Weasel Zippers? He doesn't really comment here but always dings your links. What's the story?

413 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:05pm

re: #379 newsjunkie_ky

Fun. :) .....though even that sounds new-fangled, to me..... :)

414 neocon hippie  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:12pm

re: #357 debutaunt

re: #344 savage_nation

I remember the prefixes had names attached to them. If you wanted to make a call, say from North Hollywood to Los Angeles, you would tell the operator, "I want to make a call to STATE 9960 and my number is POPLAR 5649.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

GLendale 3-2048

I remember it more the latter way. BI4-7016 (for Bigelow) was our home number, and I remember phone numbers printed in that format on delivery trucks and such. That left the scene right around the time 5-digit zipcodes came out. When I was a very young child -- we're talking 1964-65 or so -- our address would be followed by "Waban 68, Mass.", replaced by Waban MA 02168.

415 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:17pm

re: #401 Peacekeeper

ROFL

416 rappmandu  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:35pm

More on Hesham Islam's latest defender and Stephen Coughlin detractor:

CAPT Gordan E. Van Hook, USN
Executive Director, Chief of Naval Operations Executive Panel, United States Department of the Navy, United States Department of Defense

417 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:37pm

re: #384 Silhouette

Pennsylvania 6-5000.

Hey, I'm not even 40 but I know Glenn Miller (right?) and I've stayed at that hotel in NYC.

418 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:46:42pm

re: #412 Killgore Trout

He always dings Carl also.

419 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:12pm

re: #397 JammieWearingFool

How's the better half doing today?

420 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:25pm
421 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:45pm

re: #401 Peacekeeper

In the seventies it took an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes.


I used to tape 20 Minute Workout on the VCR & play it back at high speed. It only took 10 minutes & I got a great workout.
/Ghostbusters

422 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:50pm
423 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:53pm

Heh. Law and order.

When top predators come down on AQ they won't even feel it.

424 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:47:58pm

re: #402 savage_nation

Yeah.....at least until the "big change" when I was ten.... :)

425 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:48:08pm

re: #417 Spenser (with an S)

re: #384 Silhouette


Pennsylvania 6-5000.

Hey, I'm not even 40 but I know Glenn Miller (right?) and I've stayed at that hotel in NYC.

I've heard that it (the hotel) is, ah, disappointing. True?

426 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:48:27pm

We had an Egyptian dog, everywhere he went he left a pyramid.

427 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:48:27pm

re: #403 Cygnus

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey


re: #289 Occasional Reader

We could only dream of "ZIP" codes.

Before the ZIP code was invented, we had to use button codes.

The next step will be Velcro codes.

Velcrodes.

428 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:48:40pm
429 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:49:29pm

re: #339 song_and_dance_man

you guys are old

no grampa's old and tired. i remember when he used to plow w/ a mule.

430 neocon hippie  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:49:36pm

re: #390 lawhawk

Today, people will look at you funny if you say that you used a BBS, or know what Gopher or Usenet is. /explains the stares

Isn't Usenet still out there?

431 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:49:48pm

Peacekeeper, you're making my afternoon here. I was so bored, and you came out to play.

432 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:49:52pm

Re: Cracking down on Israeli bloggers
Although I'm still a strong supporter of free speech I find my self being cautious about who I'm willing to support. Lionheart and Vlaams Belang have made me think twice. Are my concerns justified? Is Israel just cracking down on extremists and Kahanists?

433 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:01pm

re: #429 nyc redneck

i remember when he used to plow w/ a mule.

Just like Al Gore.

434 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:29pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

I've heard that it (the hotel) is, ah, disappointing. True?

"You are correct, Sir".

435 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:37pm

re: #413 Ma Sands
When my ex worked for a large paper he actually typed his columns on some computer like thing that weighed a ton and then called the office and then hooked the phone to the computer to send it.
We've come so far.
I remember editing typed stories in '72. I still remember the edit codes.

436 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:40pm

re: #422 savage_nation

re: #405 song_and_dance_man


re: #399 Ma Sands

In LA it was Richmond 9


Lets see if I can remember those LA codes.

Poplar, Empire, Glendale, and State are the ones I remember


I think Pasadena was Sycamore

437 gonecamping  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:45pm

"It's about changing the ideas of the Western mind. A lot of people think Arabs—especially the bin Ladens, especially the sons of Osama—are all terrorists. This is not the truth," Omar told the AP last week at a cafe in a Cairo shopping mall.

As usual, it is up to the Western World to change....not bloodthirsty Islam. As far as I'm concerned, he should be preaching to the Islamokillers trying to take over the world.

438 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:50:52pm
439 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:51:05pm

re: #412 Killgore Trout

I think it is competition, from what I know of Weazel Zippers --it is all done in fun..... :)

440 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:51:42pm

re: #428 buzzsawmonkey

re: #401 Peacekeeper

In the seventies it took an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes.

It just seemed like an hour and a half.

Oh, wait--it still does.

I've watched 60 minutes once in the last decade, it HAPPENED to be the memogate story. As soon as they showed the memos, I said those don't look right (former AF so I know was AF memos look like) by the time I got a chance to look closer the whole thing had already blown up on the 'net.

441 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:51:59pm

re: #435 newsjunkie_ky

I remember editing typed stories in '72. I still remember the edit codes.

Excellent! Because I have these earth-shattering Air National Guard memos from right around that period, and I need someone to authenticate them.

442 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:03pm

re: #412 Killgore Trout

re: #397 JammieWearingFool

What's up with Weasel Zippers? He doesn't really comment here but always dings your links. What's the story?

I have no idea. We used to crosspost on each other's blogs, but I haven't heard from him in a couple of months. Last time he was asking about the Vlaams Belang furor.

He's obviously got some issues with people, as I'm not the only one getting dinged down.

I joked last night I'll be the first one to get dinged down with the post having been read.

443 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:07pm

re: #407 WriterMom

THIS IS REALLY FUNNY

It's linked upstairs.

Ezra Levant-Things You Didn't Know

Hilarious!

444 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:18pm

re: #407 WriterMom

Ezra is my hero!

445 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:19pm

re: #433 Occasional Reader

re: #429 nyc redneck

i remember when he used to plow w/ a mule.

Just like Al Gore.

He kept a mule in the Willard?

446 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:20pm

re: #432 Killgore Trout

It doesn't matter. So long as speech is free, such people will always expose themselves. It's a bad idea to give even an inch on the principle.

447 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:22pm

re: #418 WriterMom

At first I thought he was just careless and hitting the wrong button. But it seems he has some sort of axe to grind. I think it's poor etiquette to ding a link without adding a comment as to why.

448 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:27pm
449 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:40pm
450 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:40pm

re: #357 debutaunt

re: #344 savage_nation

I remember the prefixes had names attached to them. If you wanted to make a call, say from North Hollywood to Los Angeles, you would tell the operator, "I want to make a call to STATE 9960 and my number is POPLAR 5649.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

GLendale 3-2048

EMerson 3-9643 (Seattle)

451 Former SSG  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:46pm

re: #435 newsjunkie_ky

We had to do a large paper on a shoestring, so we had one of those machines that put the image on something like cellophane - 1 each for blue, yellow, magenta, and black, then took it to a printer. Keeping that machine operating was the hard part - it was delicate. It was also a bear to proofread!

452 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:52:47pm

We were so mean we would superglue worms to the sidewalk and watch the birds get hernias.

453 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:53:10pm

re: #445 jcm

re: #433 Occasional Reader


re: #429 nyc redneck

i remember when he used to plow w/ a mule.

Just like Al Gore.

He kept a mule in the Willard?

Al's personal life is none of your damn business!

454 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:53:25pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

The Hotel PA in NYC?

That site has been under discussion to be torn down and turned into an office building for Merrill Lynch, but that might not happen - and it could instead be landmarked. It's run down and definitely not what it once was.

455 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:54:02pm
456 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:54:08pm

re: #442 JammieWearingFool

Huh, strange. He's a good blogger but the ding stalking is pretty trollish.

457 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #334 song_and_dance_man

re: #311 Former SSG

re: #226 christheprofessor

My dad wouldn't have a remote. He always said, "The day I'm too lazy to tell my kids to get up and change the channel..."

My sisters first husband had one of the first 'you don't have to get up off your chair to change the channel' boxes that was wired to the TV.

Press a button on this wired box and the channel was changed.

Science

I used to have an 18" B&W Zenith "portable" tube set with ultrasonic remote. One button cycled the volume (1/4. 1/2, 3/4, off, based on the knob on the TV) and the other advanced the VHF channel via a motor. I got it for free from a relative because it would work erratically. A repair shop tried several times, but it had an intermittent problem, and that is something that is hart for shops - it works, return it. It took me a few days - one day, I watched Run Silent, Run Deep; the next day it wouldn't come on at all. The problem was the filament ground for the 3rd IF stage was mechanical to the chassis, and it was flaky. No solder lug, so I wrapped wire around where the pin came in, soldered it there and to a convenient ground, and it worked until I got tired of lugging it around.
Those were the days when I was lucky to have my own TV - all for fixing it.

458 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:00pm

re: #435 newsjunkie_ky

Newspaper world.....was one of the most exciting places on earth..... :)

459 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:04pm

I notice that all these phone numbers are being posted and yet Stinky hasn't deleted a single one.

460 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:08pm
461 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:12pm

My wife told me she wanted to have sex in the back seat of the car. "Why are you telling me this?" I asked.
"We need you to drive".

462 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:13pm
463 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:54pm

re: #454 lawhawk

It's run down and definitely not what it once was.

I remember riding carefree as a young lad through the Hotel Pennyslvania on my Big Wheel. I kept running into these creepy twin girls, who asked me to play with them "for ever, and ever, and ever", but I paid it no mind.

464 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:55pm

re: #448 song_and_dance_man

And, as long as one cannot read minds and hearts, and spirits, I think it always will.....

465 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:55:57pm
466 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:56:14pm

What a kid I got, I told him about the birds and the bee and he told me about the butcher and my wife.

467 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:56:42pm
468 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:06pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

re: #454 lawhawk

re: #425 Occasional Reader

The Hotel PA in NYC?

That
site has been under discussion to be torn down and turned into an
office building for Merrill Lynch, but that might not happen - and it
could instead be landmarked. It's run down and definitely not what it
once was.

Neither is the hideous bunker that they
now call "Penn Station." Nor will it be after they finish vandalizing
the Post Office to create a substitute.

Maybe New York names these awful places after Pennsylvania for a reason... We don't have any places named after New York here in Philadelphia.

469 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:15pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

Guess I'll have to "stalk" him, to check it out..... :)

470 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:15pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

re: #442 JammieWearingFool

Huh, strange. He's a good blogger but the ding stalking is pretty trollish.

Well, I de-linked him and won't ever be visiting his site.

If someone wants to be a jerk publicly, that's his problem.

471 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:29pm

re: #446 Dianna

It doesn't matter. So long as speech is free, such people will always expose themselves. It's a bad idea to give even an inch on the principle.


I agree that it's a bad idea to yield on free speech. But it's also important to know who you're defending. I'm just wondering if some of these Israeli bloggers are extremists. It does have a bearing on how vigorously I'll defend their rights.

472 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:30pm

re: #463 Occasional Reader

re: #454 lawhawk


It's run down and definitely not what it once was.

I remember riding carefree as a young lad through the Hotel Pennyslvania on my Big Wheel. I kept running into these creepy twin girls, who asked me to play with them "for ever, and ever, and ever", but I paid it no mind.


You had the closet full of Dobermans?

473 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:57:53pm

RICHMOND-9 blah,blah,blah,blah.

Dialing for dollars. That's the only place I remember that style of telephone number from. And I wouldn't remember that if I hadn't been very ill and over at my grandmother's.

474 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:58:01pm
475 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:58:06pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Neither is the hideous bunker that they now call "Penn Station."

What, you mean you don't like replacing beautiful Beaux Arts buildings with claustraophobic rabbit warrens full of angry winos?

476 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:58:33pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Now, if they could only raze the Knicks and Rangers along with Penn Station and MSG, my plans for midtown would be complete.

I'm a little more optimistic about the Farley Post Office conversion into the new Penn DPM station. That is, if they can ever get past the EIS glossy pages stage and actually build something.

477 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:58:42pm
478 Mich-again  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:59:02pm

re: #463 Occasional Reader

I remember riding carefree as a young lad through the Hotel Pennyslvania on my Big Wheel.

Ha. How's Tony doing these days?

479 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:59:47pm

re: #463 Occasional Reader

Did you hear redrum... redrum.... in the background? Or maybe some guy who'd occasionally show up with a pickax wondering whether the doors were locked?

480 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 12:59:48pm

and gramma had to put on her walking shoes and go to town for that gov't cheese.

481 Kulhwch  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:00:05pm
I don't want to live under shari'a -- but I also don't want to live under a government that drives hard-working parents and their children out of our country at the point of a gun, all for the crime of doing what it took to feed their families.

Gads, what a buffoon ...

Never could stand Card.  Can stand him a lot less now.

}:)     (And yes, I'm being unkind to buffoons everywhere!)

482 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:00:22pm

re: #474 savage_nation

re: #466 Peacekeeper


What a kid I got, I told him about the birds and the bee and he told me about the butcher and my wife.

She was an ugly girl who married an ugly guy and they have two very ugly kids. In fact in their family album, all they kept were the negatives.

I'm so ugly ... I worked in a pet shop and people kept asking how big I'd get.

483 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:01:03pm

re: #450 Cygnus

re: #357 debutaunt


re: #344 savage_nation

I remember the prefixes had names attached to them. If you wanted to make a call, say from North Hollywood to Los Angeles, you would tell the operator, "I want to make a call to STATE 9960 and my number is POPLAR 5649.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?


GLendale 3-2048

EMerson 3-9643 (Seattle)

GLendale (Connecticut)

484 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:01:51pm
485 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:02:00pm
486 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:02:02pm

re: #471 Killgore Trout

It is a little embarrassing to find yourself vociferously defending someone whose views are repugnant. But there's a limit to how much you can know about people, and there's no limit to principle. If the bloggers in question are making concrete threats, the government has a right to shut them down. If they're not, then they can be extremists, and the government does not have a right to shut them down.

Just my view.

487 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:02:41pm

Right-wingers gather against 'Islamisation'

SEVERAL European far-right parties announced a new organisation aimed at fighting the "Islamisation" of Europe.

The group dubbed "Cities against Islamisation" was presented to the media in the northern Belgian city of Antwerp by Filip Dewinter, head of the far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest) along with Austrian FPOE leader Heinz-Christian Strace and Robert Spieler of the regionalist Alsace First group.

Parties from Britain (the British National Party), Denmark, Germany and Italy were also represented at the launch of the group which has a road-sign-style crossed-out mosque as its logo.

Thirty members of the new organisation then set off on a walk around areas of Antwerp with a high immigrant population.

Wow, thirty of them. What a mass movement.

488 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:02:47pm

The wife just said she's gonna take up jogging 'cause she misses the sound of heavy breathing.

489 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:02:50pm

re: #479 lawhawk

who'd occasionally show up with a pickax

Nah, just a regular axe.

(In the book, it's a croquet mallet... and the book is even scarier)

490 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:03:41pm

re: #477 savage_nation

With Chick Hearne? I think so.

491 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:03:55pm
492 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:04:37pm

Speaking of Penn Station, how about this prospect of an Amtrak strike that would shut down Penn Station, including NJ Transit and the LIRR.

493 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:04:48pm

re: #470 JammieWearingFool

re: #456 Killgore Trout


re: #442 JammieWearingFool

Huh, strange. He's a good blogger but the ding stalking is pretty trollish.


Well, I de-linked him and won't ever be visiting his site.

If someone wants to be a jerk publicly, that's his problem.

We all hope Mrs Jammie is doing well.

494 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:05:33pm
495 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:05:43pm

re: #492 tfc3rid

prospect of an Amtrak strike

If Amtrak went on strike, how could anyone tell?

496 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:05:59pm

re: #491 savage_nation
Why is it, if women are so smart, they can't figure out at 6 a.m. what they want to eat at 6 p.m.?

497 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:06:51pm
498 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:06:58pm

re: #494 song_and_dance_man

We've all had that sad experience. It doesn't really change the principle on which you stand, though, does it?

499 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:07:04pm

re: #495 Occasional Reader

True, true...

500 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:07:22pm

I also remember back before this whole "monotheism" fad kicked in.

501 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:07:35pm

re: #486 Dianna

re: #471 Killgore Trout

It is a little embarrassing to find yourself vociferously defending someone whose views are repugnant. But there's a limit to how much you can know about people, and there's no limit to principle. If the bloggers in question are making concrete threats, the government has a right to shut them down. If they're not, then they can be extremists, and the government does not have a right to shut them down.

Just my view.

I've often taken an absolutist view on free speech. I want to know who's thinking what and what's being said, even if it is repugnant because it not only exposes who else is thinking along the same lines, but it exposes the hatred to the light of criticism. That's a good thing.

Making threats crosses the line. When that happens, the government has an obligation to step in.

502 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:07:41pm

re: #486 Dianna

Well, there is a fine line there somewhere. That's why I mentioned the Kahanists. The JDL would qualify too, they are terrorist organizations so their right to free speech is limited.

503 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:07:43pm

They've finally come up with the perfect office computer. If it makes a mistake, it blames another computer.

504 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:08:19pm

re: #494 song_and_dance_man

I've noticed kids do that to their parents......but, oftentimes they'll turn again later on......and almost always after the parent dies.....

505 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:08:28pm

re: #501 lawhawk

Isn't that what I said?

506 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:08:28pm

re: #500 Occasional Reader

I also remember back before this whole "monotheism" fad kicked in.

OR is Abraham's sock puppet!

507 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:08:29pm

Mark Steyn Is Not Alone
By Brooke M. Goldstein

Award-winning author Mark Steyn has been summoned to appear before two Canadian Human Rights Commissions on vague allegations of "subject[ing] Canadian Muslims to hatred and contempt" and being "flagrantly Islamophobic" after Maclean's magazine published an excerpt from his book, America Alone.

The public inquisition of Steyn has triggered outrage among Canadians and Americans who value free speech, but it should not come as a surprise. Steyn's predicament is just the latest salvo in a campaign of legal actions designed to punish and silence the voices of anyone who speaks out against Islamism, Islamic terrorism, or its sources of financing.

The Canadian Islamic Congress (CIC), which initiated the complaint against Steyn, has previously tried unsuccessfully to sue publications it disagrees with, including Canada's National Post. The not-for-profit organization's president, Mohamed Elmasry, once labeled every adult Jew in Israel a legitimate target for terrorists and is in the habit of accusing his opponents of anti-Islamism -- a charge that is now apparently an actionable claim in Canada. In 2006, after Elmasry publicly accused a spokesman for the Muslim Canadian Congress of being anti-Islamic, the spokesman reportedly resigned amidst fears for his personal safety.

508 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:08:45pm
509 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:09:15pm

How come marriage has no guarantees but I can take a battery back to Sears if it doesn't last 72 months?

510 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:09:19pm

re: #495 Occasional Reader

re: #492 tfc3rid


prospect of an Amtrak strike

If Amtrak went on strike, how could anyone tell?

Just ask me after Jan 30, when they propose to go on strike.

Amtrak runs the NE corridor, and would affect LIRR, Metro North, and NJ Transit. I'd figure a half million people per day in the NYC metro area alone might be inconvenienced - as in unable to get to work.

I've been hearing rumblings that they might settle things before then, but nothing is concrete.

511 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:09:36pm

"Ding Stalking"

Killgore that's pretty damned funny. It's PATHETIC THAT PEOPLE DO IT. But it's funny.

512 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:10:22pm

re: #502 Killgore Trout

OK, explain. I think you mean that, if an organization has carried out terrorist activities in the past, its current members are under scrutiny, and their free speech is limited?

513 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:10:41pm

re: #497 buzzsawmonkey

That's called Progress. /heh

514 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:10:42pm

re: #493 debutaunt

re: #470 JammieWearingFool

re: #456 Killgore Trout


re: #442 JammieWearingFoolHuh, strange. He's a good blogger but the ding stalking is pretty trollish.


Well, I de-linked him and won't ever be visiting his site. If someone wants to be a jerk publicly, that's his problem.

We all hope Mrs Jammie is doing well.

Thanks. Was over at the hospital for awhile today. Very groggy from the drugs and having some pain. They'll be getting her up again a bit later. It's disconcerting seeing her in this condition.

By the grace of God, she'll be cancer-free now.

It was three years ago this week I was hospitalized for pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung. Took awhile to recover from that, but she's got it far worse.

515 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:10:45pm

You have to stay in shape. My mother started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She’s 97 now and we have no idea where she is.

516 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:10:59pm

re: #494 song_and_dance_man

re: #471 Killgore Trout


re: #446 Dianna

It doesn't matter. So long as speech is free, such people will always expose themselves. It's a bad idea to give even an inch on the principle.

I agree that it's a bad idea to yield on free speech. But it's also important to know who you're defending. I'm just wondering if some of these Israeli bloggers are extremists. It does have a bearing on how vigorously I'll defend their rights.

Right. I've had friends that have turned on me after a half life of friendship.

That is exactly why I associate with any liberals as little as possible, which also includes the one leftist kook sister that I have.

The rest of my extended family are the typical racist, sexist, homophobic Democrats.

I choose my friends wisely, and all are gun owners who shoot often.

517 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:11:13pm

re: #500 Occasional Reader

LOL.

518 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:11:13pm

re: #501 lawhawk

I've often taken an absolutist view on free speech. I want to know who's thinking what and what's being said, even if it is repugnant because it not only exposes who else is thinking along the same lines, but it exposes the hatred to the light of criticism. That's a good thing.

Making threats crosses the line. When that happens, the government has an obligation to step in.

That's been my thinking, if they can vent verbally I believe they are less likely to become physically violent. Suppressing them only drives them underground and the without an outlet the pressure builds until an violent outburst.

519 Orde  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:12:00pm

Qassam rocket terror:
Tuesday - 40 rockets
Wednesday - 50 rockets
Thursday (today) - 40 rockets
Elderofziyon's got Video of Qassam rocket destruction

Maybe msm will show that to enlighten dhimmi Carter followers?

"I don't consider...I wasn't equating Palestinian missiles with terrorism." --Jimmy Carter on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar), 01/14/07
520 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:12:13pm

re: #339 song_and_dance_man

you guys are old

Hey, you; don't make fun of my age or I'll hit you with my walker!

:P

521 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:13:33pm

re: #520 Cygnus

re: #339 song_and_dance_man

you guys are old

Hey, you; don't make fun of my age or I'll hit you with my walker!

:P

Pin him down with that walker, I'll run him over with my wheel chair.

522 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:13:43pm

re: #510 lawhawk

Yeah, yeah, I know... I actually rely on Amtrak a fair amount to make the DC - NYC run (especially on holiday weekends). But only because they're the least worst way to make that trip, not becaue they're exactly the best. I find it truly embarrassing that the French are, what, 25 years ahead of us in passenger rail?

Metro North is pretty good, although it's also a little weird that their timetables are pretty much exactly what they were 35 years ago (at the very least). Not much technological progress there.

523 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:13:46pm

re: #514 JammieWearingFool

re: #493 debutaunt


re: #470 JammieWearingFool

re: #456 Killgore Trout

re: #442 JammieWearingFoolHuh, strange. He's a good blogger but the ding stalking is pretty trollish.

Well, I de-linked him and won't ever be visiting his site. If someone wants to be a jerk publicly, that's his problem.

We all hope Mrs Jammie is doing well.

Thanks. Was over at the hospital for awhile today. Very groggy from the drugs and having some pain. They'll be getting her up again a bit later. It's disconcerting seeing her in this condition.

By the grace of God, she'll be cancer-free now.

It was three years ago this week I was hospitalized for pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung. Took awhile to recover from that, but she's got it far worse.

Be there with her and recovery will speed by. Hubby and I both beat cancer.

524 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:14:00pm
525 jjmckay1216  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:14:03pm

re: #341 WriterMom

That's where you WRITE down a bad word when your computer screws up....

JJ

526 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:14:28pm

There's something wrong with a wife who puts the measuring cup in the dishwasher after she's only measured water in it.

527 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:14:32pm

re: #484 song_and_dance_man

re: #457 Kosh's Shadow

Interesting.

It reminds me of the day when building a PC was not an easy thing to do.

A PC with tubes would be impossible to lift. And the power bill would also be impossible.

As for building a PC, my 5-year-old one had the second failure. First, the hard drive (backed up and it did recover long enough to get anything that I'd missed off it). Now the fan on the video card died (GeoForce 4 - it gets HOT).
I don't want to buy a new AGP video card for a machine that old, so I'll probably replace it. At least I have a new laptop, and an old (slow) one, and I had just backed it up again, so I don't need to get at the data in its drives for a little while.

528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:14:45pm

re: #495 Occasional Reader

re: #492 tfc3rid

prospect of an Amtrak strike

If Amtrak went on strike, how could anyone tell?

I gotta say, Amtrak saved me one night last December. When I go to NYC, I take the SEPTA train to Trenton, then connect to the NJT train to Penn Station. On the way back, the SEPTA train left before the NJT train pulled in! And it was the last one back to Philly! But the Amtrak conductor let me in on the Amtrak train for free & I got back to Philly - before the SEPTA train, even.

529 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:15:18pm
530 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:15:32pm
531 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:15:33pm

re: #514 JammieWearingFool

((((((JWF, wife and tot))))))

532 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:15:46pm
533 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:16:57pm
534 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:17:00pm

re: #530 song_and_dance_man

"The family is the smallest form of government."

535 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:17:30pm

LIRR I find a little weird... they have those trains whose overhead compartments are so tiny, you can't even fit a decent-size briefcase in them... no bathrooms on most trains... and no bathrooms available at most stations outside of normal business hours. I guess LongIslanders learn to have very good bladder control.

536 Iron Fist  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:17:36pm

re: #429 nyc redneck,

Bet that was hard on the mule...

537 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:17:43pm

re: #534 Ma Sands

re: #530 song_and_dance_man

"The family is the smallest form of government."

and peace begins in the home.

538 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:18:02pm

re: #511 WriterMom

I have my own ding stalkers but at least they regularly participate in the conversation here so I don't mind. I think it's funny, but Weasel Zippers has taken it to a new level. He doesn't contribute to the conversation, he just obsessively dings JWF.

539 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:18:34pm

re: #537 nyc redneck

....in one person's heart. :)

540 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:18:53pm

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I made that trip back and forth for 2 yers while the gf was going to school in the Philly area... Hated making that trip...

541 Dianna  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:19:54pm

re: #519 Orde

He doesn't equate Qasams with terrorism? What does he equate with terrorism?

542 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:20:02pm

re: #536 Iron Fist

re: #429 nyc redneck,

Bet that was hard on the mule...

no, it was only a couple of acres. but pulling the mud sled to town in aug. was hard on the mule.

543 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:20:12pm

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When I go to NYC, I take the SEPTA train to Trenton, then connect to the NJT train to Penn Station.

Why not just take Amtrak directly the whole way? Price?

544 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:20:31pm

When I go to NYC, I take the SEPTA train to Trenton, then connect to the NJT train to Penn Station. On the way back, the SEPTA train left before the NJT train pulled in! And it was the last one back to Philly! But the Amtrak conductor let me in on the Amtrak train for free & I got back to Philly - before the SEPTA train, even. GIMME FIVE BEES FOR A DOLLAR WE'D SAY.

545 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

Perhaps he's boiling so much he doesn't trust himself to put it into words....? --perhaps he values his privilege to post here and doesn't want to jeopardize that......

Could be that, given time, he'll find safe enough words to express his thoughts.................?

546 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:21:12pm

re: #535 Occasional Reader

It's why the windows open, duh.

547 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:22:06pm

re: #522 Occasional Reader

I didn't get to travel around France on their TGV, but did take their RER to Versailles from Paris. Very nice and ran quite frequently. They built a dedicated passenger high speed line, and the trains to run them all. Amtrak uses freight lines and equipment that dates back 100 years. Then, when they do upgrade stuff, like Acela, they build it to the wrong spec so it can't hit the design speed. That's not a problem though, because the tracks and overhead lines can't handle the high speeds.

It's a FUBAR of galactic proportions, and no one wants to fix it, let alone pay for it - even though fixing the NE corridor could solve some of the biggest problems with congestion at the NYC airports without having to spend billions on new runways (which is pretty much impossible when you look at where the airports are situated).

548 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:22:10pm

re: #519 Orde

"I don't consider...I wasn't equating Palestinian missiles killing Jews with terrorism." --Jimmy Carter on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar), 01/14/07

...fixed that for you.

549 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:22:41pm

re: #540 tfc3rid

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I made that trip back and forth for 2 yers while the gf was going to school in the Philly area... Hated making that trip...

As long as you can make the SEPTA/NJT connection, I don't mind the trip. Amtrak is more expensive & Greyhound (or the mysterious Chinatown Bus), well, the less said the better. They've just this week changed the times for SEPTA departing Trenton station - they stay a bit longer now. I guess I wasn't the only one who got screwed on that one trip!

550 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:23:05pm
551 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:23:46pm

re: #543 Occasional Reader

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When I go to NYC, I take the SEPTA train to Trenton, then connect to the NJT train to Penn Station.

Why not just take Amtrak directly the whole way? Price?

Yup. I can barely afford ice these days.

552 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:23:47pm

re: #550 savage_nation

Um, does anyone else besides me remember Desert Storm started 17 years ago TODAY?

Gimme five bees for a dollar, we'd say.

553 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:24:14pm

re: #541 Dianna

That would be Israeli defensive actions.

554 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:24:24pm

re: #549 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Best was on Friday evening I caught a 5:01 express to Trenton (NJT) after work and was able to get into 30th Street by 7:15.

555 ec marm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:24:30pm

re: #550 savage_nation

Um, does anyone else besides me remember Desert Storm started 17 years ago TODAY?

No kidding, that long ago? I remember the first few nights falling asleep on the carpet watching CNN at night.

556 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:24:40pm
557 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:24:47pm

re: #388 bulwrk

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

Curbs were charging the cars with sexual harassment.

/yes, I know it's silly

558 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:25:00pm

re: #550 savage_nation

Um, does anyone else besides me remember Desert Storm started 17 years ago TODAY?

Once could say that it is still being fought. We've been at war in/with/over Iraq for 17 years.

And still we haven't gotten any cheap oil!

559 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:25:22pm

re: #547 lawhawk

I didn't get to travel around France on their TGV

They're amazing. Paris to Lyon is about the same distance as NYC - DC; and the trip takes about an hour and 50 minutes there. People can live in Lyon and commute to Paris (kind of a long commute, to my mind, but doable). And cheaper than the DC - NYC Acela (which takes 3 hours... almost never takes the "2:49" they advertise). Of course, the SNCF is subsidized... but hey, so is Amtrak.

560 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:25:50pm

re: #537 nyc redneck

re: #534 Ma Sands

re: #530 song_and_dance_man

"The family is the smallest form of government."

and peace begins in the home.

Tell my boys, the only toy they want is what the other one is playing with...

561 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:25:53pm
562 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:25:54pm
563 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:26:19pm

re: #393 song_and_dance_man

re: #388 bulwrk

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

They are now on Rosie's thongs.

ROTFLMAO!

564 jjmckay1216  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:27:04pm

re: #466 Peacekeeper

Hey, PK, you channeling Rodney Dangerfield lol

565 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:27:37pm

re: #245 Peacekeeper

To be or not to be... That is the question.

0x2b | ~0x2b = 0xff... That is the solution.


Lifted and paraphrased from a submission to "The Embedded Muse", Jack Ganssle's newsletter

Can you get more geek than that?

566 M. Bensson-Levi  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:28:11pm

Guy walks out of his house one morning, checks his mailbox, turns to go back inside, and sees a 500 pound gorilla on his roof. He runs inside and calls 911.

"You're not gonna believe this, but there's a gorilla on my roof!"
"Good. We've been looking all over for him. He escaped from the zoo. We'll send over the gorilla expert. Stay in your house until he gets there."

A little while later, a truck pulls up, and a man starts unloading a bunch of stuff: a ladder, a long hooked pole, a large net, a dog carrier with a large bulldog in it, and a rifle.

"Hey," he calls out to the home owner, "I'm gonna need your help here," so the homeowner goes out to talk to him.

"Yep, that's him all right," says the gorilla expert, now here's what I'm gonna do. First I'm gonna put this ladder against the side of your house, then I'm gonna climb up, and sorta mess him about with this long pole, then, when he's a little off balance, I'm gonna poke him, and he's gonna fall off of the roof. Now this here bulldog is special trained, and when that gorilla hits the ground, he's gonna run up and grab him by the balls, and not let go. Then I'm gonna climb down the ladder, throw this here net over both of 'em and haul 'em away. OK?"

"How do you need my help?", the asks.

"You know how to use one of these?", the gorilla expert asks, as he hands him the rifle.

"Sure."

"Good."

"What do you want me to do with the rifle? Shoot the gorilla?"

"Hell no! But if that gorilla gets lucky, and knocks me off the ladder, I want you to shoot the bulldog!"

567 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:28:18pm

re: #398 savage_nation

re: #388 bulwrk

Why oh why did they ever stop putting curb feelers on cars?

Why dont kids put a playing card in the spokes anymore?

We would make little model hydroplanes out of wood and drag them behind our bikes. Ah, the good old days in Seattle, when it still had a small town feel. Now I can barely stand to go there (even though the locale is still beautiful).

568 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:28:29pm

re: #562 savage_nation

And Peter Arnett...

569 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:28:35pm

re: #561 buzzsawmonkey

re: #533 savage_nation


re: #532 buzzsawmonkey

re: #529 savage_nation

This is New York. Who isn't?


Sounds as bad as Chicago

Worse, in a way. Everyone in Chicago knows that the government is corrupt, and almost glories in the flagrance of the corruption--at least, that was the case when I was growing up there.

In New York, everyone pretends that the government is not corrupt, and does their best to ignore the day-to-day evidence of it. Oh, sure, when there's an obvious scandal, like skimming DMV money, there will be an investigation. But the bedrock corruption is never acknowledged to exist, while in Chicago it is taken as a given.

The Chicago way is more honest, in my view.

570 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:28:41pm

I definitely remember gathering at a friend's house to watch CNN on the first night of the Gulf War. Immense relief at hearing "all planes have returned safely to their bases"; joy at hearing "the Republican Guard has been devastated" (which turned out to be a little bit of an overstatement... they made it sound like the war was over a few hours after it had begun). Then, of course, the CNN talking heads ran out of anything intelligent-sounding to say, so they started interviewing each other, plus some dubious "experts", who also had nothing more to say. So we switched to "The Love Connection".

571 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:29:03pm

Maybe you can suggest something. As a matter of fact, you do suggest something. To me you suggest a baboon.

572 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:29:44pm

re: #519 Orde

Qassam rocket terror:
Tuesday - 40 rockets
Wednesday - 50 rockets
Thursday (today) - 40 rockets
Elderofziyon's got Video of Qassam rocket destruction

Maybe msm will show that to enlighten dhimmi Carter followers?


"I don't consider...I wasn't equating Palestinian missiles with terrorism." --Jimmy Carter on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar), 01/14/07

Read the comment on that video. Pretty disgusting.

573 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:31:25pm

re: #561 buzzsawmonkey

re: #533 savage_nation


re: #532 buzzsawmonkey

re: #529 savage_nation

This is New York. Who isn't?


Sounds as bad as Chicago

Worse, in a way. Everyone in Chicago knows that the government is corrupt, and almost glories in the flagrance of the corruption--at least, that was the case when I was growing up there.

In New York, everyone pretends that the government is not corrupt, and does their best to ignore the day-to-day evidence of it. Oh, sure, when there's an obvious scandal, like skimming DMV money, there will be an investigation. But the bedrock corruption is never acknowledged to exist, while in Chicago it is taken as a given.

The Chicago way is more honest, in my view.

Please ignore comment #569. :)

Voters have had plenty of oppurtunity to vote the bums out of office, so in my belief, the people should be held more accountable than the faux politicians.

People get the government they deserve.

Will the people wake up?

Doubtful

574 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:31:33pm

We've got to speed things up in this hotel. Chef, if a guest orders a three-minute egg, give it to him in two minutes. If he orders a two-minute egg, give it to him in one minute. If he orders a one-minute egg, give him a chicken and let him work it out for himself.

575 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:33:16pm

re: #573 republic

re: #561 buzzsawmonkey

re: #533 savage_nation


re: #532 buzzsawmonkey


re: #529 savage_nationThis is New York. Who isn't?


Sounds as bad as Chicago


Worse,
in a way. Everyone in Chicago knows that the government is corrupt, and
almost glories in the flagrance of the corruption--at least, that was
the case when I was growing up there. In New York, everyone
pretends that the government is not corrupt, and does their best to
ignore the day-to-day evidence of it. Oh, sure, when there's an obvious
scandal, like skimming DMV money, there will be an investigation. But
the bedrock corruption is never acknowledged to exist, while in Chicago
it is taken as a given.

The Chicago way is more honest, in my view.

Please ignore comment #569. :)

Voters
have had plenty of oppurtunity to vote the bums out of office, so in my
belief, the people should be held more accountable than the faux
politicians.

People get the government they deserve.

Will the people wake up?

Doubtful

Well it's either that or vote Republican. Which will never happen.

576 Orde  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:33:38pm

re: #541 Dianna

re: #519 Orde
He doesn't equate Qasams with terrorism? What does he equate with terrorism?


Why Israel, of course! For ex, take the territorial land gains of '48 and '67, you remember in '48 when Arabs fled so that the invaders could push Israel into the sea, and in the 1967 war when several Arab nations came against Israel after issuing very many explicit genocidal statements, and the Arabs lost bigtime, including the Gaza land that Egypt had formerly occupied due to the '48 war of aggression, and the Judaea/Samara, ("West Bank") land that Jordan had formerly occupied and annexed after it stole it in '48--well, Jimmy Carter describes such territorial gains from defending itself against genocidal aggressors this way:

"...I equated the ejection of Palestinians from their previous homes within the State of Israel to the forcing of Lower Creek Indians from the Georgia land where our family farm was now located; they had been moved west to Oklahoma on the "Trail of Tears"..." - pp27-28, PPNA"

(Sounds like Condi's equating of the Palestinians self-inflicted suffering w/terrorism of the Black U.S. South. Condi projects her victimization, Jimmy projects his guilt.)

577 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:33:41pm

re: #560 jcm

Search around in here....this guy's got some neat stuff to do about that very thing..... :)

578 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:34:08pm

"Darling, you're the closest thing I ever seen to Marilyn Monroe. You look just like Arthur Miller."

579 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:34:25pm

re: #547 lawhawk

Excellent points. Once Eurostar started running via the Chunnel, I stopped flying London to Paris or Brussels. Train only. I did the same with all my trips from NYC to DC - via Amtrak as opposed to flying the shuttle or out of EWR. But that was to avoid airport hassle. If the weather went south, air was actually more dependable.

This country has a major problem with rail and only is looking to committ band-aids to the issue. A 45 mile NJ Transit commuter run that I had to do would take 95 minutes to cover that distance - on a good day without bad weather or signal issues.

Here in CA - the Surfliner isn't bad - a great way for a LA - San Diego day trip. But, it's slow - and the freight lines have priority on many of the tracks. The Metrolink commuter runs are brutal - slow and infrequent. Even the talk of a highspeed rail LA to SF isn't going anywhere because of the estimated cost...and we know the real cost will be a 2-5 multiple of the estimated cost.

580 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:35:45pm
581 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:35:46pm

I can remember when the air was clean and sex was dirty.
George Burns

582 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:36:48pm

re: #579 Athos

re: #547 lawhawk

Even the talk of a highspeed rail LA
to SF isn't going anywhere because of the estimated cost...and we know
the real cost will be a 2-5 multiple of the estimated cost.

That's never stopped politicians before. Hell, it sounds like a great reason to raise some taxes!

583 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:37:57pm

re: #582 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #579 Athos


re: #547 lawhawk

Even the talk of a highspeed rail LA
to SF isn't going anywhere because of the estimated cost...and we know
the real cost will be a 2-5 multiple of the estimated cost.


That's never stopped politicians before. Hell, it sounds like a great reason to raise some taxes!

Ahnold doesn't need another reason. In partnership with the other nitwits in excremento, he has all the reasons he needs.....

Like anything else here - it will come down to who pays off who.....

584 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:38:04pm

When I was a boy the Dead Sea was only sick.

585 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:38:29pm
586 jcm  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:39:52pm

re: #577 Ma Sands

re: #560 jcm

Search around in here....this guy's got some neat stuff to do about that very thing..... :)

They do pretty well, they're 10 months apart, we got them when they were 4 and 14 months. When I saw the seagulls in

Finding Nemo

, I said "I know them."

Thanks for the link.

587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:40:01pm

re: #585 buzzsawmonkey

re: #575 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well it's either that or vote Republican. Which will never happen.

Leaving
aside the pro-Democrat bias which is seared, seared into the brains of
most New Yorkers, the local Republican Party--and the local
Conservative Party--are, for the most part, pensioned lap dogs who show
up at elections to pretend to mount opposition, in exchange for
patronage payoffs to their "leaders."

A Conservative Party?

588 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:41:12pm

re: #575 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well it's either that or vote Republican. Which will never happen.

The people of NY did vote Republican, and got a Mayor who fits right in between Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama.

Blago would run a dime store into the ground within a few days.

The people have spoken.

Heh.

589 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:41:21pm

re: #586 jcm

Adopted?! Ohhhhhhh.........you're precious! :)

590 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:42:15pm
591 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:44:23pm

re: #588 republic

re: #575 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well it's either that or vote Republican. Which will never happen.

The people of NY did vote Republican, and got a Mayor who fits right in between Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama.

Blago would run a dime store into the ground within a few days.

The people have spoken.

Heh.

I thought we were talking about Chicago, or any big city for that matter. FFS, here in Philly, the previous mayor John Street got more votes because he was under a Federal corruption investigation!

592 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:44:33pm

re: #580 buzzsawmonkey

re: #573 republic


Voters have had plenty of oppurtunity to vote the bums out of office, so in my belief, the people should be held more accountable than the faux politicians.

People get the government they deserve.

Will the people wake up?

Doubtful


Only partially true. It is very difficult to make headway against entrenched interests, especially when they have configured the election laws to suit themselves. It is difficult to mount an effective challenge to even a single politician, let alone create an effort/movement strong enough to challenge the existing interests citywide. It takes money; it takes time; and it takes the ability to withstand harassment from the interests you are challenging.


Ronald Reagan did it.

It's still a choice, and if the people don't want to get things cleaned up, then so be it.

I will live free, or die trying.

593 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:44:54pm

A Canadian soldier, killed in Afghanistan this month, was buried today.

Funeral of Warrant Officer Hani Massouh
5 GBMC.08.04 - January 16, 2008

Valcartier Garrison, Quebec — The military funeral of Warrant Officer Hani Massouh, who died in Afghanistan on January 6, 2008, will be held at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday, January 17. The ceremony will take place at Saint-Charles-Garnier Church, located at 1215, Chanoine-Morel Avenue (intersection of Laurier Blvd) in Quebec.

Born in Alexandria, in Egypt, Warrant Officer Hani Massouh joined the Canadian Forces on September 27, 1990. Career infantryman, Hani was a member of 2 Battalion, Royal 22e Régiment, based in Valcartier, Quebec. Hani was 41 years old and was on his sixth mission overseas.

Our prayers are for his family. We will never forget his sacrifice.

594 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:45:11pm

re: #559 Occasional Reader

re: #547 lawhawk

I didn't get to travel around France on their TGV

They're amazing. Paris to Lyon is about the same distance as NYC - DC; and the trip takes about an hour and 50 minutes there. People can live in Lyon and commute to Paris (kind of a long commute, to my mind, but doable). And cheaper than the DC - NYC Acela (which takes 3 hours... almost never takes the "2:49" they advertise). Of course, the SNCF is subsidized... but hey, so is Amtrak.

Here, Amtrak is heavily subsidized outside the NE corridor. A lot of trains few people take. We don't want to put in the money to improve Amtrak.
Too many people say that aviation taxes should go to aviation and gas taxes to roads, but they're all transportation taxes, and if improvements in the trains reduces the number of planes flying, they improve performance for everyone where the speed of flying makes a difference.
Same for public transit - if some gas taxes (state) went to making good public transit, it would take cars off the road for people who can't get there via public transit.

595 Orde  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:45:24pm

re: #548 Kenneth

re: #519 Orde
"I don't consider...I wasn't equating Palestinian missiles killing Jews with terrorism." --Jimmy Carter on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar), 01/14/07

...fixed that for you.


You certainly did,

"too many Jews" -- Jimmy Carter on Holocaust Council
596 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:45:47pm

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.

597 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:48:10pm

re: #591 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought we were talking about Chicago, or any big city for that matter. FFS, here in Philly, the previous mayor John Street got more votes because he was under a Federal corruption investigation!

I thought the comment that I commented on was talking about both NY and Chicago.

Speaking of Chicago, how about that "Seniors ride for free" legislation that just passed in Springfield, which the Gov. will sign, that raises business taxes,

that the seniors don't even want, in fact, seniors are overwhelmingly oppsed to it.

Tax and spend liberals, will destroy this country.

598 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:50:34pm

re: #596 Peacekeeper

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.


There is a sign at our deer shack that has a very similar saying,

"All of our visitors bring us happiness, some by coming, and some by leaving."

599 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:51:17pm

re: #597 republic

re: #591 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I
thought we were talking about Chicago, or any big city for that matter.
FFS, here in Philly, the previous mayor John Street got more votes
because he was under a Federal corruption investigation!

I thought the comment that I commented on was talking about both NY and Chicago.

Speaking
of Chicago, how about that "Seniors ride for free" legislation that
just passed in Springfield, which the Gov. will sign, that raises
business taxes,

that the seniors don't even want, in fact, seniors are overwhelmingly oppsed to it.

Tax and spend liberals, will destroy this country.

At least here, the seniors rides are paid for by the lottery, a.k.a. the Stupid Tax.

600 Cygnus  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:54:41pm

re: #595 Orde

re: #548 Kenneth


re: #519 Orde
"I don't consider...I wasn't equating Palestinian missiles killing Jews with terrorism." --Jimmy Carter on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar), 01/14/07

...fixed that for you.


You certainly did,


"too many Jews" -- Jimmy Carter on Holocaust Council

Too many Jews on the Council or in general?

601 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:54:47pm
602 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:57:24pm

re: #555 ec marm

re: #550 savage_nation


Um, does anyone else besides me remember Desert Storm started 17 years ago TODAY?

No kidding, that long ago? I remember the first few nights falling asleep on the carpet watching CNN at night.

SNL did a routine about idiot newspeople asking the military for all the plans.

603 republic  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 1:59:15pm

re: #601 buzzsawmonkey

re: #592 republic

Not so.

Ronald Reagan, on a national level, managed to get the Republican nomination and win the Presidency. But an individual winning national office in a 50-state election is, quite frankly, a lot easier than bucking an entrenched corrupt local machine system to the extent necessary to change it.

There is no greater entrenched corrupt political place than Washinton D.C.

Reagan did a splendid job of turning things around there, and this country enjoyed about 20 years of the things he got done there.

What I'm hearing you say, is there is no way to get things changed in a place like Chicago, and if that is true, we are surely all doomed, because in time, all politics will become that way.

"We the people....."

604 Athos  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:08:37pm

re: #602 debutaunt

If I recall, that's pretty much the way most of the Schwarzkopf briefings worked anyhow.....

605 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:08:49pm
606 Ma Sands  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:20:16pm

re: #605 buzzsawmonkey

Reagan. That name has taken on a fuller, deeper glow for me lately.......my next grandchild is to be born on my birthday, in March --her mother has already named her: "Reagan"....... :)

607 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:26:38pm
608 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:29:05pm
609 AirForceWife  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:37:05pm

I wonder if when asked about anti Americanism around the world, President Reagan would have blamed our country for it.

YouTube - McCain to Close Club Gitmo: "The first day I am President"

He wants to not only give them full constitutional protections by being within our borders, but he wants to send them to Ft. Leavenworth!....a prison where our military troops get sent and sometimes for fairly minor infractions. We had a friend a long time ago who tested positive for pot and was sent there for 6 months. Not to minimize what he did, but I can't imagine our troops and the terrorists they capture having to be put in the same prison. Like Huckleberry, McCain wants to close gitmo and make the detainees there (many of whom have killed our troops) become some of our newest immigrants.

610 AirForceWife  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:38:38pm

why sometimes my links work and sometimes they don't, I don't know. I've tried both ways (pasting them into the link tag). See if this works.

611 Izzy Dunne  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 2:48:42pm

re: #610 AirForceWife

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

why sometimes my links work and sometimes they don't, I don't know. I've tried both ways (pasting them into the link tag). See if this works.

No that doesn't work, unless you MEANT to show an idiot on a stage.

612 AirForceWife  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 3:09:10pm

[Link: projects.washingtonpost.com...]


This link is for those out there that still think he is strong on natl defense. Those that think so might want to check out his voting record with a bit more scrutiny and go back to the 90's where he was voting with the Dems against defense spending for the military and get this......he voted for a Levin amendment ending the B-2 bomber. He voted with the Democrats on military budgets during the 1990’s.

The B-2 Bomber.....you know, the stealth bomber that we already don't have enough of if we want to be able to go into a country like I don't know, say Iran, and take out most of their air and naval defenses, SAM's, Weapon's plants, etc before they are able to put up a defense. Tomahawk cruise missiles aren't going to penetrate deep enough for the hardened sites.

You can be a liberal and be as stupid as a rock and have your political integrity in tact. You cannot call yourself a conservative or even strong on natl defense and continue to believe McCain is strong on natl defense without losing all credibility.

McCain has carefully crafted his positions based on political, rather than natl security concerns. He believes he can take simultaneous positions of being tough on the war but soft on the prisoners to reach across ideological lines. He has been loud and wrong on every issue except for Iraq and the surge. The problem is that a surge in Iraq is only one strategy in one country, among many in the foreign affairs portion of our natl security strategy. Equally important, is not only the other things we have our military do or not do abroad, but also border defense and what we do internally to maintain our continued security. So if the surge being the right thing to do is all that matters to voters, then I guess McCain is their man. He is not trustworthy though and he has made a sport out of stabbing conservatives in the back.

613 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 3:30:18pm
614 AirForceWife  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 3:38:48pm

here are some of the maverick's votes where he voted against our military and natl security.

6/20/06 Vote 178: S 2766: Nelson (FL) Amdt. No. 4265; To express the sense of Congress that the Government of Iraq should not grant amnesty to persons known to have attacked, killed, or wounded members of the Armed Forces of the United States. No Yes Yes (no was McCain, yes was the GOP in general, and even most of the dems voted yes on this one)


6/6/07 Vote 187: S 1348: Cornyn Amdt. No. 1184, As Modified; To establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals. No Yes No (No votes are McCain and Dems).

615 sultan_knish  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 3:44:40pm

re: #432 Killgore Trout

Depends what you mean by "extremist", to your average liberal everyone here is an extremist. That's why I hate the use and misuse of the term, though I'm guilty of it myself.

The best way to decide is to simply have a personal litimus test, go through their blog and decide if you want to support them and on what terms. The same goes for bloggers anywhere around the world. When you're dealing with English language blogs, it's easy enough to take five minutes and browse through the content and the links.

616 Orde  Thu, Jan 17, 2008 3:54:46pm

{To toadbelly: thanks for your Spinoff Link Remembering Raoul Wallenberg, it not only reminded me to order the DVD Good Evening, Mr. Wallenberg, but when I checked Amazon for it, I discovered there's a new DVD on him: Raoul Wallenberg: Buried Alive. Thank you so much!}


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