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 RetweetUK Government Agency Condemns 'Three Little Pigs'

Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 8:30:45 am PST

The latest episode of utter insanity from Britain’s Mad Hatters of Multiculturalism: Three Little Pigs ‘too offensive’.

A story based on the Three Little Pigs has been turned down from a government agency’s annual awards because the subject matter could offend Muslims.

The digital book, re-telling the classic fairy tale, was rejected by judges who warned that “the use of pigs raises cultural issues”.

Becta, the government’s educational technology agency, is a leading partner in the annual schools award.

The judges also attacked Three Little Cowboy Builders for offending builders.

The book’s creative director, Anne Curtis, said that the idea that including pigs in a story could be interpreted as racism was “like a slap in the face”.

The CD-Rom digital version of the traditional story of the three little pigs, called Three Little Cowboy Builders, is aimed at primary school children. But judges at this year’s Bett Award said that they had “concerns about the Asian community and the use of pigs raises cultural issues”.

The Three Little Cowboy Builders has already been a prize winner at the recent Education Resource Award - but its Newcastle-based publishers, Shoo-fly were turned down by the Bett Award panel, run the government’s technology agency. The feedback from the judges explaining why they had rejected the CD-Rom highlighted that they “could not recommend this product to the Muslim community”.

They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.

The judges criticised the stereotyping in the story of the unfortunate pigs: “Is it true that all builders are cowboys, builders get their work blown down, and builders are like pigs?”

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1 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:32:06am

What about THe Three Little Somethingerothers?

2 pat  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:33:58am

Maybe it is time for the creator to do a story on The Three Dhimmi Judges.

3 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:34:10am

Is this a joke? The Three Cowboy Builders? WTF?

4 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:34:37am

This will preempt the huffing and puffing.

5 Graystoke  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:34:41am

And the British went weee weee weee all the way home.

6 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:34:50am

I'm gonna' huff,
I'm gonna' puff,
and I'm gonna' blow this PC house down.

7 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:35:13am

Three Blind Somethings
Mary Had a Little Something
Something See no Evil - Something Hear no Evil ...
On the First Day of Something my co-depentant other gave me something
Blah Blah Blah! LOL

8 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:35:37am

How about 'The Three Little Presidential Candidates'?

9 BrianA  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:36:13am

I guess we know how's afraid of the big, bad wolf.

10 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:36:42am
11 BrianA  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:36:53am

oops,
who's afraid
PIMF

12 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:37:02am

They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.


Oh brother, are they saying construction workers might be offended by a children's story?

13 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:37:07am
The book’s creative director, Anne Curtis, said that the idea that including pigs in a story could be interpreted as racism was “like a slap in the face”

Get ready dear, a slap in the face is the least of the problems coming down the pike. When the swords are over your necks, you'll remember these days of warning.

14 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:03am

Goldie Locks and the Three ? Seems to be a problem with things being in threes?
maybe do like the muslims and promote the killer bee for the kiddies?

15 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:05am

Iowahawk? Must be satire.

16 toomanysnax  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:22am

About forty years about we were in London. I saw a "play," really a comedy sketch, called "Beyond the Fringe." One of the skits was an interview with a judge. As I recall, "When you get too old and sick and stupid to be a lawyer, they make you a judge." Didn't know how true that was.

17 toadbelly  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:36am

Little Red Riding Hood was also condemned for stereo-typing cross-dressers as wolves.

18 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:36am

But judges at this year’s Bett Award said that they had “concerns about the Asian community and the use of pigs raises cultural issues”.

My wife is Thai, I asked her if the the 3 little piggies offended her, she said "no...but these islamist bastards that keep blowing shit up in my homeland really pisses me off". She's pretty Americanized.

19 Dianna  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:45am

re: #12 bulwrk

Evidently? Builders and muslims...what are things coming to?

20 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:49am

Just oink, baby.

21 Freelance  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:38:55am

What a load of crap! ... When is this PC bullsh!t going to stop?

Why do people insist on bending over backwards to accommodate, appease and pacify a group of people who are perpetually enraged regardless of what you do or don't do?

Multi-Culturalism is a waste of time because at it's very core it assumes that all cultures are equal, when clearly, some cultures are much better than others.

22 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:00am

re: #12 bulwrk

They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.


Oh brother, are they saying construction workers might be offended by a children's story?

Heh, I hope they ask these questions on-camera to some masons or framers. That would be funny!

23 ggt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:07am

Wasn't Larry Flynt:

"There is no law against Bad Taste."

offend away!

24 schultzw  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:09am

what's next, Goldilocks and the 3 Bears? Now stories from our childhoods are getting lambasted by the PC crowd, is anything safe?

25 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:22am

Idiocy raises cultural issues.

26 sc13ntific  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:33am

If they were down south woudl they shop at Pigly Wiggly?

This is effing ridiculous.

27 schultzw  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:40am

re: #17 toadbelly

Little Red Riding Hood was also condemned for stereo-typing cross-dressers as wolves.

10 points for hilariousness

28 Aardvark  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:47am

The Three Little Martyrs?
The Little Mullah That Could?
Three Blind Infidels?

29 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:39:57am

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

In the new version of the story, the Big Bad Wolf uses fertilizer bombs and boxcutters.

House of Straw: Europe

House of Sticks: Israel

House of Brick: USA

I wonder what the new "multicultural" ending will be?

George Bush opens the door of the House of Brick and says, "Come on in and we'll negotiate".

30 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:40:07am

Well I'm highly offended that they won't run the "Three Little Pigs", I love pork!

Bacon
Ribs
Pork Chops
etc

31 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:40:09am

Porky Pig was not available for comment.

32 Guy_Philly  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:40:29am

Fatwa against Brothers Grimm, Warner brothers, Aesop, a. a. Milne. But kudos to Lewis Carrol for his Red Queen shouting "off with her head!"

/sarc

33 ggt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:40:40am

They sanitized Bugs Bunny and the Road Runner --I never understood that.

34 itellu3times  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:40:52am

And the fourth little pig lived in a cave, and often set fire to his neighbors' houses, which is why one of them lived in a house of straw, and another in sticks, but the pig in the house of bricks also had a shotgun and kept o'hama bin Cavepig too far away to do any damage.

35 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:41:05am

I'm gonna Huff,
And I'm gonna puff,
And I am not going to blow this well constructed house of straw that was built by something neutral, but highly skilled, that doesn't offend our kindly Islamic overlords.

36 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:41:14am

Once upon a time there were three little dhimmis and the time came for them to leave home and seek their fortunes.

Before they left, their mother told them " Whatever you do , don't offend anyone at all, because that's the way to get along in the world.

The first little pig built his house out of straw because it was the easiest thing to do.

The second little pig built his house out of sticks. This was a little bit stronger than a straw house.

The third little pig built his house out of bricks.

One night the big bad jihadis, who dearly loved to eat fat little infidel dhimmis, came along and saw the first little dhimmi in his house of straw. He said "Let me in, Let me in, little dhimmi or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house in!"

"Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin", said the little pig.

But of course the wolf did blow the house in and ate the first little dhimmi.

The wolf then came to the house of sticks.

"Let me in ,Let me in little dhimmi or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house in" "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin", said the little dhimmi. But the wolf blew that house in too, and ate the second little pig.

The wolf then came to the house of bricks.

" Let me in , let me in" cried the wolf

"Or I'll huff and I'll puff till I blow your house in"

"Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin" said the dhimmi.

Well, the wolf huffed and puffed but he could not blow down that brick house.

But the dhimmi was a weaked spined dhimmi and he let he jidahist in.

The next day the little dhimmi invited his mother over . She said "You see it is just as I told you. The way to get along in the world is to offend no one. " Fortunately for that little pig, he learned pay jizya and not to complain. And he just lived happily ever after!

37 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:41:23am

Pretty much everything in western society offends them.

38 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:41:43am

Talk about flaming, multicultural insanity.

These people have lost their minds -- condemning harmless children's stories that offend Muslims because they contain pigs.

The left will probably start beheading each other as they come to understand that their very infidel existence offends Muslims.

Better to kill yourself than be thought of by Muslims as "racist", right?

39 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:42:04am
40 Guy_Philly  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:42:04am

re: #18 VegasRick


"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

41 gwlaw99  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:42:06am

I wonder if the Canadian Human Rights Commission will be investigating schools forcing their students to read Animal Farm?

42 AuldTrafford  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:42:09am

Admit it: the Judges have a point; the story does raise cultural issues.

But wait - wasn't that the point? (Mr. Levant, where are you?) What story does not have a cultural point to make?

I understand that the author's cultural issue wasn't the same one the judges saw, but "if you've seen one, you've seen them all"?

43 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:42:41am

re: #37 Teacake!

Pretty much everything in western society offends them.


And that says it all.

45 Pyrocles  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:43:25am

Wow...all I can say about this. People have such soft skin these days, that they're offended by everything. The UK government seems to be very eager to pre-emptively censor anything that might possible offend someone or some individual somewhere in Britain...

I believe Muslims need to be exposed to offensive media to develop the sort of cultural "callous" that all Westerners have developed through the centuries. This is the only way Islam will ever "reform" to exist on equal footing within Western nations.

46 OneGyT  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:43:26am

Part of me thinks that this is a depressing sign of the times that an ancient silly little fairy tale can be interpreted as "offensive to Muslims" (what isn't offensive these days?) and banned, but the rest of me wants to laugh out loud.

47 Dianna  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:43:37am

re: #38 Yank in the EU

Don't forget the offended builders!

48 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:43:42am

It's absolutely absurd to think that this fable is offensive to Muslims.
Madness. Simply madness.

Let's take this to a logical conclusion. I'm sure someone could make a case that the Koran or any story that is based on the Koran is offensive to non-Muslims. Therefore, it cannot be taught in the UK.

Repeat for the Bible (offensive to non Christians or non Jews).

I'll repeat: This is simply madness.

49 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:43:51am

The next thing you'll see is the Count on Sesame Street counting severed kuffir heads, so as to be culturally sensitive.

50 zmdavid  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:00am
frank says:
Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
51 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:10am

I thought Lefty didn't like Cowboys?

52 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:14am

I'd like to see them mess with THIS pig!

53 gman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:30am
The feedback from the judges explaining why they had rejected the CD-Rom highlighted that they “could not recommend this product to the Muslim community”.

They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.

I'm not buying the "we might offend the builders" part of this story. The controversy is all about not offending Muslims.

54 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:31am

re: #39 Rodan

This isn't serious. It has to be a prank. How does the UK allow 3% of the population to dictate to the other 97%? This is coming to America, watch out!

The 3%-97% ratio has been alive and well in America for quite some time now, and getting even more insane.

Just look at any and every kook leftist cause, and you will find a few people out of millions, who get laws changed on their behalf.

spit

55 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:45am

I love the way they make it sound like they are just as concerned about offending "builders" as they are about offending Muslims.

You know how easily offended those builders are, especially when someone calls 'em a cowboy.

56 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:50am

When you can't think of an effective counter argument, act offended. Being offended is the best defense for the brain-dead.

57 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:44:57am

re: #43 Golem Akbar

re: #37 Teacake!

Pretty much everything in western civilized society offends them.


And that says it all.

And that says it even better!

58 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:45:08am

The Late Great Britain, from Camelot to a Camel Lot. It's things like this that has inspired PIGMAN

59 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:45:17am

I think everyone in the UK should start wearing pork pie hats.

60 El matamoros  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:45:29am

HEre just more effing garbage, the stuff just keeps rolling in and rolling in.


Afghan journalist setenced to death for story (not even his) that "humiliates" Islam.
[Link: ap.google.com...]

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:45:41am
62 Ron(Ron)  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:45:54am

The best way to avoid offense is to publish nothing.

63 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:46:12am

The only solution that would work, would be to do absolutely everything that offends them, until they become desensitized.

Pour on the offending!

64 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:46:16am

So "cowboy" is a derogatory term in Britain.

Makes me want to get a new hat and a cutting horse.

/grandson and great-grandson of REAL cowboys
/I call fatwa on all your culturally-sensitive dhimmi tails.

65 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:18am

Somebody should do a story about the "Three Little Pig Cowboy Builders"; three little pigs in cowboy suits ride around the countryside, building sturdy houses of brick, to defend against big bad terrorist wolves, in turbans. They also teach others how to catch the Big Bads by roping them with their lassos. Hopefully, it will offend everybody but actual kids, who will love it.

This is the sort of thing the erstwhile defenders of British, Western, European culture should be blogging about, and making an issue of---instead of denouncing LGF/Charles as a traitor, and demanding that us/him be shot, or enagaging in endless debate over the BNP, and what that Celtic/Odinist/cross in the background means, and what came first, the Ayran or the egg?

Britain needs some real defenders at this point, not fakers and poseurs.

66 Wisenheimer  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:20am

One thing is obvious: People obsessed with such trivialities are wholly unprepared to face the real enemy.

67 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:22am

re: #47 Dianna

Yes: "Oh my goodness, I think this children's story is offensive to builders."

That's insane.

The leftist multiculturalists are flat-out deranged.

68 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:25am

re: #54 republic

re: #39 Rodan


This isn't serious. It has to be a prank. How does the UK allow 3% of the population to dictate to the other 97%? This is coming to America, watch out!

The 3%-97% ratio has been alive and well in America for quite some time now, and getting even more insane.

Just look at any and every kook leftist cause, and you will find a few people out of millions, who get laws changed on their behalf.

spit


Joseph Lenin said the communist revolution can be successful with only 3% of the population of any country. 3% is more than enough in England, or any Euorpean country sensitive about Human Rights, and insensitive to democracy.

69 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:32am

re: #40 Guy_Philly

re: #18 VegasRick


"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

I know. I just think it is funny that they call them "Asian", as my wife IS Asian and not at all a muslim. I think muslim would be a more accurate description but in keeping up with the PC BS they call them "Asian". I guess Hooper and Padilla are "Asian" to these folks.

70 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:47:42am

re: #51 DesertSage

I thought Lefty didn't like Cowboys?

Yes, and that fits into the ruling. We can't refer to builders as "cowboys", because that's a derogatory label.

Orwell was conservative in his prognostications.

71 dgax65  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:48:19am

I just keep thinking that, at some point, there will be a popular rebellion against this PC crap. Maybe I'm too optimistic. We are dealing with sheep; not people.

72 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:48:24am

Behead those who insult builders.

73 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:48:35am

re: #66 Wisenheimer

One thing is obvious: People obsessed with such trivialities are wholly unprepared to face the real enemy.


That has been the primary tactic of islam to spread itself around the world.

74 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:48:42am

re: #39 Rodan

It's already here (though not quite as bad yet). Just replace 'Muslim' with 'homosexual'.

75 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:49:30am

re: #71 dgax65

It'll swing back eventually. Maybe soon.

76 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:49:31am

re: #74 Happy Fun Ball

re: #39 Rodan

It's already here (though not quite as bad yet). Just replace 'Muslim' with 'homosexual'.

Great nic. I guess we had better avoid taunting you. ;)

77 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:49:35am

Bush = cowboy. John Wayne too I guess.

78 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:49:41am

re: #40 Guy_Philly

re: #18 VegasRick


"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

I believe it refers to people Pakistan

79 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:49:54am

Tell him cowboy is derogatory.

80 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:00am

With this tiny act of cowardice the world is instantly more Islamic now.

81 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:01am

Seriously, Monty Python's version of UK politics is tame compared to the left today.

82 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:01am

re: #53 gman

The feedback from the judges explaining why they had rejected the CD-Rom highlighted that they “could not recommend this product to the Muslim community”.
They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.

I'm not buying the "we might offend the builders" part of this story. The controversy is all about not offending Muslims.

Bingo! The "builder" thing is a red herring to try to legitimize the piggy bullshit!

83 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:28am
84 boazhorribilis  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:40am

I suspect the average pig has more brain cells and compassion than the average rabid, hateful, would be suicidal Mohammedan terrorist...and they taste good!

85 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:50:46am

re: #79 jcm

Tell him cowboy is derogatory.

Ummm, he has guns. Guns are bad, mmmkay? So he's bad, mmmkay?

/L-cubed mode off

86 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:12am

pimf

from Pakistan

87 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:16am

re: #74 Happy Fun Ball

re: #39 Rodan

It's already here (though not quite as bad yet). Just replace 'Muslim' with 'homosexual'.


Taking the words "Mom and Dad" out of the school ciriculum in California, is about as bad as it can get, right here, in America!

88 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:42am

And I thought the Masons were part of the cabal. You know they're involved, somehow, along with the pope and those wanting to create a North American Union. [time to start a new conspiracy thread for the bored, even if it's just satire]

89 selpaw  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:44am
90 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:52am

re: #74 Happy Fun Ball

Or better yet, replace 'Muslim' with 'environmentalist nut' or 'global warming fearmonger'.

91 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:51:57am

Or this guy.

92 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:52:06am

re: #79 jcm

Tell him cowboy is derogatory.

Is that a belt buckle or a hub cap?

93 AuldTrafford  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:52:07am

re: #80 Bosch Fawstin

With this tiny act of cowardice the world is instantly more Islamic now.

Yes. When they say we're winning the war on radical Islam, you really have to wonder. ...

94 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:52:31am

re: #85 OldLineTexan

re: #79 jcm

Tell him cowboy is derogatory.

Ummm, he has guns. Guns are bad, mmmkay? So he's bad, mmmkay?

/L-cubed mode off

LOL!

95 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:52:42am

Oh! The builders are masons? That is offensive if they build structures from straw. Yeah. I get it now.

96 Wisenheimer  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:52:50am

re: #73 republic

re: #66 Wisenheimer


One thing is obvious: People obsessed with such trivialities are wholly unprepared to face the real enemy.

That has been the primary tactic of islam to spread itself around the world.

What worries me is not only that many in our country have lost the will for self-defense, but they have lost the memory of why we should defend ourselves.

97 bianchi_roadie  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:53:37am

re: #41 gwlaw99

Soon - the Left has an interest in keeping Animal Farm out of the hands of people. Same goes for 1984 unless they can first spin it as a "Neocon fantasy" to students. The uneducated Left (i.e. most who have only read 1984), tends to embrace him, but ignores his stance against pacifists and Stalinism. Mainly because they are never exposed to it.

98 amphibian  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:53:46am

OT (slightly), from Ephemeral Isle:

[Link: davidszondy.com...]

I think Mr. Szondy says it all. Iowahawk needs to work hard to stay ahead of reality!

99 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:00am

re: #92 VegasRick

re: #79 jcm


Tell him cowboy is derogatory.

Is that a belt buckle or a hub cap?

Err, that's the front of his pants...he's wearing chaps.

100 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:02am

re: #96 Wisenheimer

One thing is obvious: People obsessed with such trivialities are wholly unprepared to face the real enemy.


That has been the primary tactic of islam to spread itself around the world.

What worries me is not only that many in our country have lost the will for self-defense, but they have lost the memory of why we should defend ourselves.


BINGO!

101 duckydan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:08am

So, how many people along the line of decision-making have to think this is a good idea for it to happen? I mean, could no one involved in the process just say "this is dumb, don't do it"? I think it takes one idiot who is far-left/PC and everyone else is simply cowed into silence.

102 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:13am

re: #86 bulwrk

pimf

from Pakistan

My point. Their problems only stem from folks fucks from Pakistan? I think not.

103 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:22am

So all those years when the 3 little pigs was OK, I guess they didn't give a shit they might be offending Jews. Who knew?

104 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:28am

re: #96 Wisenheimer

re: #73 republic


re: #66 Wisenheimer

One thing is obvious: People obsessed with such trivialities are wholly unprepared to face the real enemy.

That has been the primary tactic of islam to spread itself around the world.

What worries me is not only that many in our country have lost the will for self-defense, but they have lost the memory of why we should defend ourselves.

The left is responsible for both of those negatives by the laws they have conspired and passed.

105 Jinx  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:35am

Speaking of pigs and offensive to cultures...
From the DrudgeReport:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

...a Hamas border guard interviewed by The Times at the border today admitted that the Islamist group was responsible and had been involved for months in slicing through the heavy metal wall using oxy-acetylene cutting torches...

..."I've seen this happening over the last few months. It happened in the daytime but was covered up so that nobody would see..."

..."It was the government that was doing this. Who would I report it to?"...

106 pat  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:47am

re: #37 Teacake!

Pretty much everything in western society offends them.

In this case the 'judges' did not even wait for offense. The simply assumed that their 'Asian' citizens and 'construction' builders were so dim-witted that they would be offended. Sort of like school principals that scream in fear when they see plastic knives or drawings of soldiers.
But you are right. Everything about the West offends them, except our money and women (the latter properly bundled and beaten).

107 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:54:50am
108 El matamoros  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:55:07am

Here is the most insane part about it. OK, so pigs are "unclean" and no muslims would ever touch one or have one in his house.

WEll, in the west SPIDERS are considered gross by most people, no one would eat one, few people want to touch them and killing them in your house is a sport. So how is it that we have no objection to charlottes web? or any other story that deals with spiders?

In this case I'm not EVEN going to blame the Muslims. This is obviously a case of leftist judges bending over to appease muslims, when Muslims are'nt even offended. I bet these fools didnt even ASK any muslim what they thought.

109 Indefatigable  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:55:13am

Been reading 1984. Apparently, I missed the part where the book needed to be read as a historical account of Britain.

110 akak  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:55:37am

How's that mosque monitoring going for ya?

111 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:55:43am

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

112 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:55:51am

re: #101 duckydan

So, how many people along the line of decision-making have to think this is a good idea for it to happen? I mean, could no one involved in the process just say "this is dumb, don't do it"? I think it takes one idiot who is far-left/PC and everyone else is simply cowed into silence.

If you speak up you are labled ___ist & ___phobe, and sent to diversity training an counseling. The only thing missing is the camps.

113 AuldTrafford  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:56:07am

re: #100 jcm

Right on! The old story of the three little pigs comes to mind ...

Oops; maybe the Judges were right. After all, we can't be running around defending ourselves from this Jihadi threat.

114 Jad  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:56:15am

I'm sure a bit of (polite yet forceful) feedback would get the point across ;)

becta@becta.org.uk

115 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:56:35am
116 gman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:56:41am

re: #82 VegasRick

re: #53 gman


The feedback from the judges explaining why they had rejected the CD-Rom highlighted that they “could not recommend this product to the Muslim community”.
They also warned that the story might “alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)”.

I'm not buying the "we might offend the builders" part of this story. The controversy is all about not offending Muslims.

Bingo! The "builder" thing is a red herring to try to legitimize the piggy bullshit!

Unfortunately, if you built your house out of straw (i.e. naive world view) you will fall for this Big Bad Wolf tactic.

117 hayseed  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:57:24am

re: #23 ggt

they chased larry flynt out of Cincinnati twice

118 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:57:40am

re: #116 gman

Unfortunately, if you built your house out of straw (i.e. naive world view) you will fall for this Big Bad Wolf tactic.

Brick walls...
with gunports.

119 shibumi  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:57:51am

Well, Muslims are offended by pigs in general, so I can at least understand that point of view.

But builders?

I've met builders. They're among the most politically incorrect people out there- at least in the U.S.

(Looking into crystal ball... in England, all chiropractors will soon be wealthy beyond belief due to back problems caused by bending over backwards in the name of "diversity.")

120 wee fury  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:57:56am

PC gone horribly wrong.

121 Wisenheimer  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:03am

re: #104 republic

The left is responsible for both of those negatives by the laws they have conspired and passed.

The lefties are fond of quoting the Santayana line "Those who forget the past..." It would never occur to them to apply that to themselves.

122 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:12am

Probably didn't want to take any more chances after that British teacher et the class name a teddy bear Mo... and almost got beheaded.

123 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:19am

re: #111 Ringo the Gringo

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

To be used as an acceptable alternative to calling someone a Jew? /

124 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:37am

re: #107 Rodan

re: #69 VegasRick

At this point in the Europe and the US Muslims have become a defacto ruking class. You can't crticize their religion, we must be sensitive to their cultural needs, we must allow them to have their own laws and we must teach history from their viewpoint. Does this piss anyone else off?


Oh yes, we are supposed to be taking the fight to them, and instead, we are catering to them.

We have been supposed to for centuries, take a very serious fight to this cult of deceit and murder, and yet, everyone finds a way to cater to them.

Like serving the master that is going to kill you, no matter what, so to speak.

125 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:39am

re: #111 Ringo the Gringo

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

A world without offense is lacking in fertile ground for jihad.

Offense must be generated to ensure piety and enthusiasm amongst the illiterati.

126 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:43am
127 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:58am

re: #111 Ringo the Gringo

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

So that cruel infidels could bury Muslims that had died wrapped in pig skins and pig entrails ( supposedly what the Russians did/do to sent a massage ).

128 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:58:59am

re: #119 shibumi

Well, Muslims are offended by pigs in general, so I can at least understand that point of view.


Well, Muslims are offended by pigs in general, so I can at least understand that point of view.

Fixed it for ya'

129 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:59:05am

Porky sums it up.
not work safe, I don't think.

130 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:59:24am

re: #120 wee fury
Heh, PC was never 'right' in the first place.

131 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 8:59:59am

re: #111 Ringo the Gringo

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?


That's a very good question. And it needs to be answered.

132 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #112 jcm

The only thing missing is the camps.

It's only a matter of time - and they will be couched by calling them for 'reeducation' purposes...

133 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:00:32am

re: #126 Rodan

re: #88 Golem Akbar

The real conspiracy is the Leftist-Islamic axis financed by Saudis, Iranian and Soros. Yet no so called conspiracy buff ever mentions this. It's always the Evangelicals, Neocons, Catholic Church or/and Jews. No coincidence the groups are hated by the Left and Islamists. Makes you think who's starting these conspiracy theories. Maybe, I'm speculating it's the Leftist-Islamic alliance that created these fake theories to cover up what they're doing.


Personally I blame the Rotary Club.

134 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:00:34am

Hey You Bec-ta,
Ha Ha!
Charade you are!

135 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:00:42am
136 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:23am

re: #129 newsjunkie_ky

Porky sums it up.
not work safe, I don't think.

Unless you work in a Mosque, that is work safe and pretty funny also!

137 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:23am
138 Tumulus11  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:35am

. This version also failed to receive government approval :


'The next day the big, bad jihadi wolf came and knocked on the little green pig's door.
He said, "Little green pig, I did not go to the fair yesterday. A great, big thing came rolling down the hill and knocked me over."

"Ha-ha!" said the little pig. "That was me, inside my little green football!" When the jihadi wolf heard this he was very, very, very angry indeed.
He said, "Little green pig, I am going to eat you up. I am going to climb down your chimney to get you."

The little green pig was very frightened, but he said nothing. He put a big pot of jihadi whupp-ass on the fire, to boil.

The big, bad jihadi wolf climbed on the roof. Then he began to come down the chimney.
The little green pig took off the lid from the pot of boiling whupp-ass. Into the pot fell the jihadi wolf, with a big splash. And that was the end of the wolf. The pig with the little green football was too clever for him.
-- The End.

139 Lobosan5  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:42am
they “could not recommend this product to the Muslim community”.

...however, they could recommend cutting the Cl*ts out of very young girl children, usually w/out anesthesia...let me quote the good Doctor!:
"...it is a noble act.” Dr Muhammad al-Mussayar of Al-Azhar University [Link: www.andrewbostom.org...]

140 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:44am

re: #135 Iron Fist

Three little undifferentiateed mammals.

It is OK to call them mammals, isn't it?

Mammals will cause men to think of mammaries, and inspire lust so NO!

141 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:01:45am

re: #121 Wisenheimer

re: #104 republic


The left is responsible for both of those negatives by the laws they have conspired and passed.

The lefties are fond of quoting the Santayana line "Those who forget the past..." It would never occur to them to apply that to themselves.


Yes, and the left is also fond of quoting the U.S. Constitution, and they despise the Constitution, as it clearly is the only thing standing in the way of their socialist/stalinist agenda.

142 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:02:08am

re: #107 Rodan

re: #69 VegasRick

At this point in the Europe and the US Muslims have become a defacto ruking class. You can't crticize their religion, we must be sensitive to their cultural needs, we must allow them to have their own laws and we must teach history from their viewpoint. Does this piss anyone else off?

I am with ya brother (or sister) but you are mistaken on one point. "we must teach history from their viewpoint" - the schools maybe but at home I teach my children the correct way of life. Does this piss anyone else off?

143 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:02:36am

re: #136 Nevergiveup

re: #129 newsjunkie_ky


Porky sums it up.
not work safe, I don't think.

Unless you work in a Mosque, that is work safe and pretty funny also!


I don't work, so wondered about the b-word.

144 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:02:36am

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky

re: #111 Ringo the Gringo


Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

That's a very good question. And it needs to be answered.

Answer:
Infidel! For asking that disrespectful question, I will keeel you!

145 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:02:52am

More evidence supporting yesterday's comment regarding Brits and boobs.

146 Black George Bush  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:03:02am

I guess they couldn't call it the "Three Little Midget Trans gendered Albino Eskimos" since this would clearly be offensive to trans gendered albino Eskimos.

147 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:04:23am

re: #144 Athos

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky


re: #111 Ringo the Gringo

Does Islam have an answer as to why Allah created pigs in the first place?

That's a very good question. And it needs to be answered.

Answer:
Infidel! For asking that disrespectful question, I will keeel you!

I love Achmed the DEAD terrorist.

148 republic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:04:31am

Later all!

149 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:05:02am

Three Little Pigs for 2008:

3 Little Pigs - Homeowners who took out mortgages in the last few years

Straw House - dishonest loan from bank now out of business

Stick House - 80/20 Loan - Interest only

Brick House - 30 year fixed

Wolf - mortgage crisis/foreclosures

150 Dianna  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:05:33am

re: #60 El matamoros

Well, this is the time to fire up the word-processor and send a letter to Karzai.

Thanks for the heads-up.

151 El matamoros  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:05:45am

re: #97 bianchi_roadie

re: #41 gwlaw99

Soon - the Left has an interest in keeping Animal Farm out of the hands of people. Same goes for 1984 unless they can first spin it as a "Neocon fantasy" to students. The uneducated Left (i.e. most who have only read 1984), tends to embrace him, but ignores his stance against pacifists and Stalinism. Mainly because they are never exposed to it.


LOL! OMFG! Lemme tell you lizards something, Mahatma Ghandi! the left loves him right?! well did you know that he was the same as a gun toting redneck? He loved guns and hated blacks (which he referred to as kaffirs) So when ever old "McLefty" takes about Ghandi or all that "pacifist" Bullcrap i also link to some of Ghandis greatist quotes that leftists are NEVER exposed to. Watch them as they squirm and try to explain away his attitude! muhahaha!

[Link: www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...]
"In the Hollywood film made about Gandhi, much emphasis was placed on a scene where he was arrested for riding in a South African train coach reserved for Whites. This incident did indeed occur, but for very different reasons than those the film portrayed!

For the liberal myth is that Gandhi was protesting at the exclusion of non-Whites from the train coach: in fact, he was trying to persuade the authorities to let ONLY upper caste Indians ride with the Whites."

152 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:06:03am

"Political Correctness" is one of the most meaningless terms in modern language. The left seems to be guided by it into insanity. The racialist right use this term in one of their most common defenses: "white nationalism is neither dangerous nor an immoral ideology; you are just being PC." Vague, emotional, bumper-sticker words.

153 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:06:58am

re: #69 VegasRick

re: #40 Guy_Philly
re: #18 VegasRick


"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

I know. I just think it is funny that they call them "Asian", as my wife IS Asian and not at all a muslim. I think muslim would be a more accurate description but in keeping up with the PC BS they call them "Asian". I guess Hooper and Padilla are "Asian" to these folks.

"Asians" in Britain are Indians and Pakistanis; "Middle Easterners" are, well... Arabs, IIRC.

Any British Lizards out there to confirm this?

154 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:07:23am

And they call us stupid. They do, UKnow.

155 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:07:23am

Here's my favorite version of The Three Little Pigs.

156 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:07:26am

I have been watching news coverage of the Gaza version of rioting when the lights go out. A few things seem obvious:
1) They all look pretty well fed for STARVING people
2) I see alot more people carrying boxes of TV's and other electronic devices
than baby formula
3) they are also pretty well dressed and smiling up a storm. Party time!

157 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:07:47am

"the Three Little Pigs" are cool. I draw the line with "I'm A Little Teacup". That one is just, so wrong... And "The Wheels on the Bus"... you can have that one too...

158 AuldTrafford  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:08:33am

re: #152 Yank in the EU

"Political Correctness" is one of the most meaningless terms in modern language. The left seems to be guided by it into insanity. The racialist right use this term in one of their most common defenses: "white nationalism is neither dangerous nor an immoral ideology; you are just being PC." Vague, emotional, bumper-sticker words.

That's the beauty of it: it means whatever you need it to mean whenever you want to beat somebody up. And it's a term that always commands respect.

159 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:09:37am

re: #62 Ron(Ron)

The best way to avoid offense is to publish nothing.

Publish nothing. Stop thinking. Watch the calendar months and years go by in reverse order...

160 OLDPUPPYMAX  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:09:42am

Had these clowns been around 65 years ago, Churchill would have suggested fighting THEM in the streets!

161 GregInSeattle  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:10:16am

OT--
Wow, scary IF true. Via WND:

Al Qaida Hackers Responsible for Brishish 777 Crash?

162 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:11:01am

re: #159 debutaunt

re: #62 Ron(Ron)


The best way to avoid offense is to publish nothing.

Publish nothing. Stop thinking. Watch the calendar months and years go by in reverse order...

You want to be non-offensive? Say nothing. Do nothing. Eat nothing. Otherwise, fuggedaboutit.

163 MES41067  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:12:02am

And standing in for the wolf Monica Lewinsky she'll huff and she will puff and blow all the houses down.

164 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:13:46am

re: #129 newsjunkie_ky

Porky sums it up.
not work safe, I don't think.

It's safe for work if you listen on a headset. Funny!

Son of a ... gun!

Wait - aren't guns offensive, too? The horror!

165 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:13:55am

re: #152 Yank in the EU

"Political Correctness" is one of the most meaningless terms in modern language. The left seems to be guided by it into insanity. The racialist right use this term in one of their most common defenses: "white nationalism is neither dangerous nor an immoral ideology; you are just being PC." Vague, emotional, bumper-sticker words.

I don't think it's a meaningless term or that the left is guided into it by insanity. This is quite calculated. It is a specific and deliberate effort to neuter speech and the ability to use words and rhetoric to fight the agenda of the left. It is a less than subtle form of control and how to think that is added liberally with the accusations of racism, cultural bigotry, and 'insensitivity' in order to shame anyone expressing a viewpoint that doesn't enable their agenda to remake this culture into their near jacobin form of 'utopia'.

They are fighting a war of ideas and words, and the more we let this tripe continue, the more that they are winning.

This fight isn't about the jihadis, this fight is about the left trying to weaken us in our fight against the jihadi mindset. The left is still deluded to think that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' and that once the left gains the control they seek, they can 'deal' with the jihadis.

166 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:14:27am

re: #162 Golem Akbar

re: #159 debutaunt

re: #62 Ron(Ron)


The best way to avoid offense is to publish nothing.


Publish nothing. Stop thinking. Watch the calendar months and years go by in reverse order...

You want to be non-offensive? Say nothing. Do nothing. Eat nothing. Otherwise, fuggedaboutit.

In other words, die.

167 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:14:46am

re: #78 bulwrk

re: #40 Guy_Philly


re: #18 VegasRick


"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.


I believe it refers to people Pakistan

Thirty years ago a British friend said W.O.G.
I said What?
He said Western Oriental Gentleman.
I said What?

168 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:15:00am

everyday more of our heritage and culture is torn down to make room for barbarians. this done in the name of tolerance. why be tolerant of such a demanding obviously inferior bunch of rude people? why must we now give credence to a 7th century heathen screed that issues edicts that say ie. pigs and dogs are bad. we have nothing against pigs and dogs and it's our civilization you jerks have plopped down in to now dictate that our time honored and enjoyed children's stories are no longer appropriate or sound.
england, please keep your culture. the enemy is laughing at how easily they are manipulating you. up w/ pigs and dogs.

169 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:15:06am

re: #166 cygnus

re: #162 Golem Akbar


re: #159 debutaunt

re: #62 Ron(Ron)

The best way to avoid offense is to publish nothing.

Publish nothing. Stop thinking. Watch the calendar months and years go by in reverse order...

You want to be non-offensive? Say nothing. Do nothing. Eat nothing. Otherwise, fuggedaboutit.

In other words, die.


They will let you convert first...

170 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:15:06am

re: #158 AuldTrafford

Rather than actually articulate oneself and think out an argument, one can just charge "PC" and use the suggestion of accepted taboo (cutting in either direct for the left and right) to get someone to cower. It's deadening of the rational faculties in action.

171 Toonman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:15:43am
The judges criticised the stereotyping in the story of the unfortunate pigs: “Is it true that all builders are cowboys, builders get their work blown down, and builders are like pigs?”

Is it true that all judges are moronic, pig-headed, jack-asses?

/Can we make a book about the three little judges?

172 jcm  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:16:06am

re: #161 GregInSeattle

OT--
Wow, scary IF true. Via WND:

Al Qaida Hackers Responsible for Brishish 777 Crash?

Talked about it last thread. Not likely, have to get inside both Boeing and the Airline. But it should be checked out.

173 gman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:16:49am

Time to the add the BETT awards to the well- established Left-wing awards list:

duPont Awards (Columbia University)
Peabody Awards (PA)
Nobel Peace Prize (NPP)
Pulitzer Prize
Rachel Corrie Award
National Book Awards (NBA)
Gunter Grass

174 GregInSeattle  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:17:15am

re: #172 jcm

Thanks, I'll read through that thread.

175 kmg  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:17:45am

That is so utterly stupid. Muslims need to grow up. Pigs exist, deal with it already. There are worse thing in this world than pigs, like the muslim human monsters who commit murder through suicide bombings!

176 Is it me?  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:18:07am

AARGH!

I cannot stand all this PC crap. Who are these judges anyway? No doubt more NuLabour followers. I'm not sure how you could offend British builders they're an un-PC lot.

These loony lefty spineless appeasers have no idea what us Brits are like, especially the English. We are not PC at all, we take the piss out of everything and everybody, including ourselves. We also laugh at pretty much everything no matter how inappropriate (Americans might be shocked - I've laughed my head off at some things on this site that the rest of you seemed to find offensive!). As for offending Muslims, what complete tosh. Most probably would take no notice or not be offended and the ones who would do the whining are the ones with the agenda and 'offence' is just part of their armory.
No-one gives a damn if they offend ME. In fact I am offended and insulted on an almost daily basis. They need to get a grip on reality rather than live in their made up little world.
I think the tipping point will come when they try to ban our bacon sarnies!

177 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:18:25am

re: #173 gman

Do you get the Rachael Corrie award if you win the Annual Pancake Recipe Cook-Off?

Banana pancakes - mmm!

178 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:18:44am
179 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:19:38am

re: #172 jcm

re: #161 GregInSeattle


OT--
Wow, scary IF true. Via WND:

Al Qaida Hackers Responsible for Brishish 777 Crash?


Talked about it last thread. Not likely, have to get inside both Boeing and the Airline. But it should be checked out.

It's getting to the point that anything from WND and WND primarily needs to be factchecked pretty severely. Between speculation as news in this example or the pathetic humping of the 'NAU' and 'Amero' feartactics, a site that once had some credibility is now approaching supermarket tabloid levels of credibility...when they get a story right, time to check for flying pigs.

180 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:20:14am

re: #178 Rodan

re: #175 kmg

Muslims hate Dogs also.

No Animal Planet for them, I guess. No reruns of Lassie either.

181 Hadith Harry  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:20:33am

There are political reasons I no longer vacation in Mexico. I am starting to feel the same way about Europe. Oh, the insanity of it all.

182 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:20:56am

Slightly OT, I told my students today about "climate change" and how over the history of civilization world temperatures have fluctuated within a 7 degree range. I then explained that one of main reasons parts of the Mediterranean are desert isn't because of the climate, but because the Muslims when they conquered a region cut down all the trees and grazed goats on the land until it was utterly ruined.

Ohh, do I feel so delightfuly transgressive.

183 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:21:15am
184 Former SSG  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:21:20am

re: #167 debutaunt

re: #78 bulwrk


re: #40 Guy_Philly

re: #18 VegasRick
"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

I believe it refers to people Pakistan

Thirty years ago a British friend said W.O.G.
I said What?
He said Western Oriental Gentleman.
I said What?

That is now considered an offensive term - extremely so - over there. It used to be used frequently, but is similar to the N word here.

185 realwest  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:21:31am

Stick a fork in Great Britain folks, they're done. Well done.

186 lurking faith  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:22:00am
The judges criticised the stereotyping in the story of the unfortunate pigs: “Is it true that all builders are cowboys, builders get their work blown down, and builders are like pigs?”


No, but apparently it is true that the British government's educational technology agency is full of people too stupid to understand a book that 6-year-olds comprehend easily.


Sadly, the judges' criticism reads like a paragraph from The Onion.

187 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:22:48am

re: #167 debutaunt

PC BS.

188 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:23:19am

re: #165 Athos

Oh, I'd have to disagree. I think the concept, rather than the term so much, operates heavily among the left. It is the suggestion that people are somehow 'racist' or 'intolerant' for having non-morally relativistic - self-hating views.

On the right, I see this term "PC" used like a sheild by the racialists frequently. Any moral argument against their blatant xenophobia and racial nationalism can be deflected by simply repeating "Hey, you're just a PC multiculturalist." And since this term is common and heavily used by many against the left, it buys them credibility, despite the utter lack of justification and content in their defense. For another example, we have seen the "don't be so PC" defense used commonly also to justify taking out Muslim populations as a war tactic, which is obviously evil and genocidal. This is why I think today the term has been essentially hollowed-out.

189 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:23:40am

re: #182 Lucius Septimius

Slightly OT, I told my students today about "climate change" and how over the history of civilization world temperatures have fluctuated within a 7 degree range. I then explained that one of main reasons parts of the Mediterranean are desert isn't because of the climate, but because the Muslims when they conquered a region cut down all the trees and grazed goats on the land until it was utterly ruined.

Ohh, do I feel so delightfuly transgressive.

good work. so nice to hear this. and don't feel too transgressive, feel PROUD.

190 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:23:44am

re: #185 realwest

Stick a fork in Great Britain folks, they're done. Well done.

As Porky would say: 'T-T-That's All, Folks!'

/Uh, oh; is that offensive to anybody with a speech problem?

191 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:24:23am

re: #120 wee fury

PC gone horribly wrong.

The day it was dreamed up it was destined to go wrong.

192 amphibian  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:24:40am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Behead those who insult builders.

Hm... imure those who insult builders?

Yeh, I got yer cask of amontillado right here, you horrid not-builder-respecting-person.

193 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:25:24am

re: #182 Lucius Septimius

Have you got solid tenure or will you be looking for another position soon?

194 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:25:50am
195 Jfundie  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:26:14am

Three little somethingsothers!

196 cygnus  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:27:36am

re: #192 amphibian

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Behead those who insult builders.

Hm... immure those who insult builders?

Yeh, I got yer cask of amontillado right here, you horrid not-builder-respecting-person.

Right here in the Third Little Pig's brick house basement.

197 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:27:55am
198 macoishin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:28:11am

The porcine jihad continues.
Anyone remember the "Three Little Puppies" fiasco last year? [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
Forgetting that a) dogs are also considered unclean in Islam and 1) it makes no bloody sense for a wolf to go around eating puppies.

Sad for the 3 piggies - they can join Piglet and Rushdie in exile as UK steadily forgets what it was like to be a confident, relevant nation.

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:28:26am
200 nikis-knight  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:29:13am

re: #48 lawhawk

It's absolutely absurd to think that this fable is offensive to Muslims.
Madness. Simply madness.

Let's take this to a logical conclusion. I'm sure someone could make a case that the Koran or any story that is based on the Koran is offensive to non-Muslims. Therefore, it cannot be taught in the UK.

Repeat for the Bible (offensive to non Christians or non Jews).

I'll repeat: This is simply madness.


The logical conclusion is to eliminate all species of pigs. Then destroy every trace of them in literature or film. Then make it illegal for anyone to discuss having done so. Then simply remove the now unneeded words from the language.

Then move on to the next thing offensive to muslims.

201 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:29:20am

re: #193 Kenneth

You betcha I'm tenured. Not like that stopped me before -- I've never towed a PC line. And by and large people leave me alone because they know they can't win an argument with me.

202 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:30:56am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

re: #182 Lucius Septimius


Slightly OT, I told my students today about "climate change" and how over the history of civilization world temperatures have fluctuated within a 7 degree range. I then explained that one of main reasons parts of the Mediterranean are desert isn't because of the climate, but because the Muslims when they conquered a region cut down all the trees and grazed goats on the land until it was utterly ruined.

Ohh, do I feel so delightfuly transgressive.


Watch out. They'll burn you at the stake for witchcraft.


Oh, I know my Kabbalah well enough to thwart their minscule "powers".

Bwhuhahahahahaha!

203 Rodan[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:32:14am
204 antiislamist  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:33:43am

Bastard Judges...

I am a Asian, and shop barking using my "Race" to pass such idiotic verdict...

205 Former SSG  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:34:39am

re: #204 antiislamist

Love your avatar - very un-PC!

206 antiislamist  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:35:38am

re: #205 Former SSG

thanks...

207 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:35:43am

re: #188 Yank in the EU

I agree that the far right uses this as a both a shield and a form of attack to push their agenda. While this does weaken the term, it does not deflect, in my opinion, from the fallacy of the mindset and approach. This fallacy is consistent in its use from both extremes of the spectrum.

208 crabtree  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:37:22am

It's obvious that pork and pork products should be eliminated from the UK as they are offensive to Muslims (and also Jews, but of course no one cares about them). The English breakfast will suffer without the bacon part, but we all have to make sacrifices for the good of the community.

209 ackomanyuki  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:37:34am
210 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:37:37am

re: #203 Rodan
Saw it -- absolutely correct -- gotta go back to work.

211 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:38:06am

re: #204 antiislamist

Outstanding avatar! Are you in the UK?

212 gander  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:39:03am

I love pigs. When pigs are banned or treated as second class animals, I am deeply offended. As a matter of fact, my human rights are violated when pigs are excluded from the public forum.

213 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:43:26am
The CD-Rom digital version of the traditional story of the three little pigs, called Three Little Cowboy Builders, is aimed at primary school children. But judges at this year’s Bett Award said that they had “concerns about the Asian community and the use of pigs raises cultural issues”.

The "Asian" community? I've had Sweet & Sour Pork, so I don't think the Chinese have a problem with pigs. "Asian" is such a mendacious term as used here. They mean muslims, but they won't come out and say it.

214 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:44:28am

re: #207 Athos

Alright then, if it really works for reasonable people and they have an intellectual grasp of what they mean by "PC", rather than it being some kind of vague, emotional mechanism, I support its use. Language is a fluid phenomenon and is often context-dependent. In Flanders, I happen to know a couple VBers and BNPers and they absolutely swim in the defense of "You are just PC" to support their white nationalism. Thus on my part, the fallacious use of the term has heavily conditioned its meaning, so when I see it seems hollow and weak. OTOH, I suppose I can see how for others it may have a very distinct meaning.

215 alteredbeat  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:44:43am

If you are a little pussy and a children's book about PIGS offends you, either grow up or don't effing read it. The pitiful authorities that cater to these 'offended' pussies by trampling on the freedoms of others are beyond comtempt.

216 antiislamist  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:45:02am

re: #211 Kenneth

Germany...

217 derkrieger  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:46:03am

I thought Muslims just couldn't eat pork (or sleep with pigs although sheep aren't safe) but didn't realize the mere existence to pigs was offensive. Why did Allah create such foul creatures? That's a question sure to short circuit the perpetually offended and their PC apologists.

218 Jinx McHue  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:46:26am

Liberalism continues to prove itself a joke time and time again.

219 harrylook  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:47:42am

Wow, the British make the French look like hard-core anti-islamist crusaders. Have they been completely intimidated by the islamo-nazis in the UK? This is so stupid I want to cry.

220 alteredbeat  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:49:03am

re: #38 Yank in the EU

The left will probably start beheading each other as they come to understand that their very infidel existence offends Muslims.


OMG that is gold. Thank you.

221 NoSubmission  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:50:19am

Goodbye, UK.

Hope who's ever still got their balls can fight back before it is too late.

222 NoSubmission  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:51:37am

re: #205 Former SSG

re: #204 antiislamist

Love your avatar - very un-PC!


Yes, quite funny indeed! LOL

223 CEQAttorney  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:55:09am

A few things come to mind when reading this story.

First, keep in mind that these were judges for a contest, essentially. They were giving awards out for books and decided that "Three Cowboy Builders" could not be considered for an award because it was insensitive to Muslims. The book hasn't been declared illegal.

Second, given what these judges said, any anthropomorphic story must also be disqualified because anthropomorphic stories are contrary to Islam (you can't show Allah's work as an animal, unless you're a Jew, I guess).

Third, the idea that the Three Cowboy Builders would be offensive to builders is a red herring. No builder (unless he was also Muslim) would be offended by such a story.

Fourth, anyone who reads the story and is offended is missing the point of the story. It is irrelevant if the "Cowboy Builders" were pigs, squirrels, cows, peanuts, or aliens from Planet X. The point of the story was that you need to be prepared and work hard rather than take the easy way out

If someone is concerned about pigs offending Muslims, they need to be fired from their job because they lack reading comprehension.

224 Josephine  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:55:22am

The story of the Three Little Pigs is part of my culture.

I think I'm offended. When does the riot begin? We can meet at Tim Horton's. It won't be hard to spot me: I'll be wearing two toques and two pairs of mittens and drinking a large double-double.

225 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 9:59:14am
226 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:00:53am
227 Idle Drifter  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:02:59am

Since pigs are as smart as dogs, how 'bout we train some pigs for military patrols. Not some cute little pot-belly pig, some of those hogs-of-war genetically engineered from hogzilla. Bard them with armor plating, condition them for combat and train them to follow verbal instructions and hand gestures as well as work with military dogs. Place them in airports, nuclear facillities, sub pens, etc. and you'll really put the fear of God in the Jihadists since it plays on a lot of their religious fear of pigs.

228 Is it me?  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:03:59am

SPINY NORMAN

*asian* is a pretty meaningless term because the continent of Asia is so large. I split people from Asia into the Indian subcontinent (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh), SE Asia and the Orient. It gives me a quick geographical link to the area concerned.
I think over here you would generally find that people from the ME would automatically be called Arabs. Asians most likely would be Indian (Bangladesh seems to be ignored for some reason). Pakistanis used to be called Pakis but the skinheads in the 70s used it as a term of abuse so I don't know whether it is used much these days.

WOG - I always heard that it means Wily Oriental Gentleman and was used in WW2. I don't know if anyone uses it anymore. I don't.

229 nikis-knight  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:07:19am

re: #108 El matamoros

There have been complaints before about pigs related things in Britian. But I'll agree the leftist dhimmis are quite eager to capitulate.

230 FightingBack  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:10:51am

Do they even have cowboys in the UK? I know that they have pigs.

231 johnnygriswold  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:11:39am

Goodbye UK

232 Jfundie  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:11:52am

re: #227 Idle Drifter

Since pigs are as smart as dogs, how 'bout we train some pigs for military patrols. Not some cute little pot-belly pig, some of those hogs-of-war genetically engineered from hogzilla. Bard them with armor plating, condition them for combat and train them to follow verbal instructions and hand gestures as well as work with military dogs. Place them in airports, nuclear facillities, sub pens, etc. and you'll really put the fear of God in the Jihadists since it plays on a lot of their religious fear of pigs.

This has actually been done here:
[Link: zioneocon.blogspot.com...]

233 FightingBack  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:12:12am

re: #225 buzzsawmonkey

And anyway, they don't tell other people what to do.

234 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:12:32am

re: #182 Lucius Septimius

Slightly OT, I told my students today about "climate change" and how over the history of civilization world temperatures have fluctuated within a 7 degree range. I then explained that one of main reasons parts of the Mediterranean are desert isn't because of the climate, but because the Muslims when they conquered a region cut down all the trees and grazed goats on the land until it was utterly ruined.

Ohh, do I feel so delightfuly transgressive.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

235 Athos  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:12:55am

re: #214 Yank in the EU

Language is a fluid phenomenon and is often context-dependent.

I am in full agreement with that.

In many cases, I agree, the use is hollow and weak as it is exploited to shutdown / end discussions. A case can be made, in a debate, the first to use the term is the loser in the debate. In your example, they have no intent to debate - just to shut you down via the use of the term as a slur.

The left, in this example via the three judges, use it to direct a change that they could otherwise not get the general population to accept because it is done via the law and in the name of 'tolerance' with the intent to weaken a culture that their ideology finds unacceptable.

I think the bottom line is, we both agree the term is a fallacy.

236 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:15:12am

re: #184 Former SSG

re: #167 debutaunt


re: #78 bulwrk

re: #40 Guy_Philly

re: #18 VegasRick
"Asian" in a Brit paper means middle eastern.

I believe it refers to people Pakistan

Thirty years ago a British friend said W.O.G.
I said What?
He said Western Oriental Gentleman.
I said What?

That is now considered an offensive term - extremely so - over there. It used to be used frequently, but is similar to the N word here.

I was befuddled by the oriental part, at the time.

237 FightingBack  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:15:56am

You think the cowboy thing could be BDS?

238 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:15:58am

re: #213 Ward Cleaver

The CD-Rom digital version of the traditional story of the three little pigs, called Three Little Cowboy Builders, is aimed at primary school children. But judges at this year’s Bett Award said that they had “concerns about the Asian community and the use of pigs raises cultural issues”.
The "Asian" community? I've had Sweet & Sour Pork, so I don't think the Chinese have a problem with pigs. "Asian" is such a mendacious term as used here. They mean muslims, but they won't come out and say it.

yes they mean moslem when they say asian. they also mean moslem terrorism when they say "anti-islamic acitivity" lol. it's getting ridiculous.

239 wanderer  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:17:08am

The race is on ! What western country's leftist bureauweenies will be the first to submit to sharia and subject their country to the mullahs' caliphate.
Leading in the race to submit to the caliphate asap with no clear front runner is the United Kingdom, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, andr Canada.

240 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:17:13am
241 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:18:00am

Once upon a time, there was a teeny tiny church in a teeny tiny town in the teeny, tiny country of England...which called itself Great Britain, in order to compensate for its smallness.

But, I digress.

In the teeny, tiny church in the teeny tiny town was a teeny tiny music festival, where the people gathered to watch the children put on a musical play,
called "The Three Little Pigs".

Well, in the same little town, in the same little country were new-comers, called Muslims, but in order for the people not to be upset, they were repackaged as "Asians" by the press and the government. And of course, this euphemism put people completely at ease.

Well, the Muslims HATED pigs, due to their religious edicts, so the people of the teeny tiny town, wishing not to offend their new neighbours, decided to rename the play, "The 3 Little Pugs", until someone pointed out to the frightened play director, that Muslims also find dogs to be as filthy as pigs.

So they sought to placate their new friends by substituting different animals, all to no avail.

The Muslims found everything to be upset about. After the title of the play was deemed too offensive, they found that the mixing of boy children with girl children terribly offensive. So the play director sent the girls packing.

Well, that was not enough, because the Muslims found music to be an evil that Allah hates, so the play director cut the musical numbers, thinking that surely the Muslims would find everything satisfactory at last, but no, they were still offended.

"We have done everything to please you in this matter, and still you are offended! What more can we possibly do?" asked the exasperated play director.

"YOU offend us, filthy infidel! Nothing would make a Muslim happier than if you would simply die!"

Seeing that he at last had found the one thing that would make the Muslim truly happier than anything else in the world, the play director went home and swallowed poison and died, setting the example for all sensitive multi-culturalists everywhere in Europe, which is now called Eurabia.

242 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:19:56am

re: #201 Lucius Septimius

re: #193 Kenneth

You betcha I'm tenured. Not like that stopped me before -- I've never towed a PC line. And by and large people leave me alone because they know they can't win an argument with me.

Towed?

243 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:21:36am

re: #208 crabtree

It's obvious that pork and pork products should be eliminated from the UK as they are offensive to Muslims (and also Jews, but of course no one cares about them). The English breakfast will suffer without the bacon part, but we all have to make sacrifices for the good of the community.

Good grief. The "fry-up" will now include goat?

244 macoishin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:26:17am

re: #243 debutaunt

re: #208 crabtree


It's obvious that pork and pork products should be eliminated from the UK as they are offensive to Muslims (and also Jews, but of course no one cares about them). The English breakfast will suffer without the bacon part, but we all have to make sacrifices for the good of the community.

Good grief. The "fry-up" will now include goat?

Hey, I'm all for eating as many animals as possible in one sitting. Goat's kinda dry & gamy though - best fried in salted pork fat.

245 Claire  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:26:18am

In the U.K. apparently, the term "cowboy" IS derogatory- According to my nephew in London, it means basically a gypsy type person who rips you off- he used the example of a person who does work on your home and does a crappy job and takes your money- like an Irish Traveller sort.

So that explains the builders being offended by being called cowboys part. As far as somebody being described as a cowboy, we see that as being complimentary and sorta macho- The English see it as a swindler- And they think we are calling Bush a swindler and such when we refer to him as a Cowboy.

Is that not bizarre?

246 crabtree  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:28:34am

buzzsawmonkey #225

Of course, I understand that. And Jews don't threaten to kill people for distributing pictures of things they don't like, either.

Actually, I don't think the mere existence or sight of pigs is offensive to Muslims either, except when they choose to make it so. As with the Jews they aren't supposed to touch, eat, etc. pigs or dogs. Remember the Minneapolis taxi drivers who tried to claim that they were forbidden by Islam to let alcohol or dogs in their taxis although others asserted that this was nowhere in traditional Islamic teaching?

247 JohnAdams  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:30:20am

Dear England:
Do you mind if we dismantled, say, Stonehenge, Big Ben, Buckingham Palace and places like that and move them to DisneyLand or someplace? I mean, after your Muslim overlords assume power you're not going to be needing them for anything, and those guys are likely to just blow them up anyway.
Thanks,
The Rest of Civilization

248 right_wing2  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:31:52am

There's a set of books out called 'Politically Incorrect Bedtime Stories' by James Finn Garner which take this 'sanitizing' of stories to their logical extreme. Pretty funny!

249 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:33:47am

Good-Bye Pork Pie...you can keep yer hat.

250 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:34:02am

Here's a Muslim expert on pigs and their feelings, Dr. Zakir Naik, president of the Islamic Research Foundation:

‘The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behavior is common.'

251 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:34:02am
252 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:34:44am

re: #250 Bosch Fawstin

Didn't Ali Sina rip this viper a new orifice?

253 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:35:34am

We'll likely stop hearing 'pigskin' in reference to Football soon.

254 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:36:09am

re: #252 Jauhara al Kafirah


Did he? Would love to read it.

255 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:36:43am

I mean, really, for someone who hates pigs, Zakir has intimate knowledge about them that could only come about from actually living with them. Perhaps Mr. Naik is actually a pig, and he just doesn't want to come out of the closet.

256 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:40:08am

re: #255 Jauhara al Kafirah

I mean, really, for someone who hates pigs, Zakir has intimate knowledge about them that could only come about from actually living with them. Perhaps Mr. Naik is actually a pig, and he just doesn't want to come out of the closet.

He probably just hates the fact that he loves them, and worse, that he makes love to them.

257 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:41:43am

re: #254 Bosch Fawstin

Yes, he really did! It is on his site: Here is the link!

258 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:43:42am

re: #256 Bosch Fawstin

Bosch, that would be disgusting, if it didn't explain so many awful things

259 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:46:17am

re: #257 Jauhara al Kafirah

re: #254 Bosch Fawstin

Yes, he really did! It is on his site: Here is the link!

Thanks

260 LegendXXX  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:47:26am

Here's the comment I left on the BACTA web site:

Subject: 3 little pigs

Are you all on drugs? So a story based on the 3 little pigs MIGHT offend some? What in the name of all that's holy is the matter with you? OK, if these are the rules now, I demand that all the Becta judges be terminated because they hare offensive to my delicate sensibilities. Having said that, I'm very glad that the USA is no longer a British colony. In 20 years, with the decisions the British government is making, there won't BE a recognizable Britain any more. This from the empire which once spanned the globe. I hope you are very proud of yourselves.

And here is their response:

Many thanks for your email and comments.

Unfortunately we believe that Becta has been misrepresented and suggest that you look at the joint press statement from the BETT award partners, who are BESA, the trade association representing the educational supply industry, Emap Education, the organisers of BETT – the largest educational technology show in the world – and Becta.

In essence, BETT award entries are judged by an independent panel of more than 70 judges of whom the majority are practising teachers. These judges review the entries based on a range of criteria including design, cost-effectiveness, support of higher order thinking skills, alignment and relevance to curriculum and effective learning and teaching styles. The feedback from these independent judges is provided to companies that have entered products for their consideration. The reason ‘The Three Little Cowboy Builders’ from Shoo Fly Publishing was not shortlisted was that it failed to reach the required standard across a number of criteria. The feedback makes clear that the issues recently highlighted in the press were a small selection from a much broader range of comments. In particular, the product was not sufficiently convincing on curriculum and innovation grounds to be shortlisted.

The BETT Awards are designed to represent the values and requirements of the teaching community and the education sector as a whole. To this end the awards are judged by teachers and others involved within the education sector and their views are transparently reflected as a part of the judging process.

Once again, we refer you to the joint press statement for further information.

Regards,

Press Officer

Take this all for what it's worth

261 The Scurvy Eye  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:48:17am

I swear, this has to be a parody! WTF!

262 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:48:40am

re: #258 Jauhara al Kafirah

re: #256 Bosch Fawstin

Bosch, that would be disgusting, if it didn't explain so many awful things


His open pigotry is actually closet love.

263 nikis-knight  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:50:16am

re: #246 crabtree

buzzsawmonkey #225

Of course, I understand that. And Jews don't threaten to kill people for distributing pictures of things they don't like, either.

Actually, I don't think the mere existence or sight of pigs is offensive to Muslims either, except when they choose to make it so. As with the Jews they aren't supposed to touch, eat, etc. pigs or dogs. Remember the Minneapolis taxi drivers who tried to claim that they were forbidden by Islam to let alcohol or dogs in their taxis although others asserted that this was nowhere in traditional Islamic teaching?


Actually, I don't think the mere existence or sight of pigs is offensive to Muslims either, except when they choose to make it so.
EXACTLY! It's all tactical. push, push, push. The leftists are sincere, though idiotic, in their eternal quest that no PC group should be offended. The Muslims do care about offense, but not this much--but they'll claim it if it increases muslim sovereignty over infidels.

EU--soon to stand for European Ummah?

264 vinny  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:54:04am

Man this is so offensive to pigs. Which animals will they attack next? dogs?

265 Squirrelguy  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:54:43am

Would support a rider on ALL elections:
"Politician subject to recall when no longer smarter than a fifth grader."

266 Jauhara al Kafirah  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 10:57:09am

Behold, Bosch, Dr. Naik has just phoned me and here is our conversation:

"Hello? This is Jauhara, haram and insolent woman, what can I do for you?"
"I am the famous debater Dr. Zakir Naik, and you have offended me with your statement saying that I am a pig! I am a manly muslim man, and my feelings were deeply hurt and now I am seething with rage. I will complain to some one, just see if I don't!"
"Well, Doc, you are entitled to do anything you want, and that includes being an insufferable pompous ass-holian whack job and a bore. But is there anything else I can do for you?"
"Yes, Jauhara. I am horny and lonely, and surrounded by all these pork-eaters. I can't resist the strong desire I have for a piece of bacon. I want you to eat a piece of bacon for me.
"Gladly, my Muslim friend. I just happened to fry some up. A really nice, thick cut piece of hickory smoked bacon! I tell you, friend, that it is perfectly okay for you to eat a piece of bacon. In fact, NOT eating a piece of bacon is a sign that you don't want to get along with others very well."
"All my life, sweet Jauhara, I have believed deep, down in my inmost core that pigs were wrong, but when I see you infidels, uncovered and enjoying the bacon, I just, I...I ...can't take it I tell you!
"S'Okay, good man. I will eat it for you now...mmm...like camping in a forest with a roaring campfire and pancakes and coffee!
You know, Zak, when you consider that Hamas has Ham in it, and Fatah has Fat, it seems to me that it would be quite all right to eat a piece of bacon. Really, you should try it"
I will, Jauhara. I will, I promise. Just don't tell the ikhwan."

267 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:05:11am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Behead those who insult builders the beheaders.

T.F.T.F.Y.

268 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:05:50am

Jauhara,

And MoHAMmad as well

269 right_wing2  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:08:59am

Mo's name not only has 'HAM' in it, the 'MAD' part fits in perfectly, too.

270 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:09:57am

re: #241 Jauhara al Kafirah

A different generation would have told the Muslims to sod off, or would have renamed the play "The Three Little Pogues" as in pogue mahone or, kiss my arse.

271 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:12:38am

re: #243 debutaunt

re: #208 crabtree

It's obvious that pork and pork products should be eliminated from the UK as they are offensive to Muslims (and also Jews, but of course no one cares about them). The English breakfast will suffer without the bacon part, but we all have to make sacrifices for the good of the community.

Good grief. The "fry-up" will now include goat?

Jews [the Torah-observant ones] don't care about pig or pork products, as long as they are not obligated to eat them. I used to toss a pigskin Rawlings football with one rabbi during recess at my yeshiva grade-school.

272 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:16:57am

re: #250 Bosch Fawstin

Here's a Muslim expert on pigs and their feelings, Dr. Zakir Naik, president of the Islamic Research Foundation:

‘The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behavior is common.'

Not like, say, the practice of buggering little boys, goats and things?
/Siouxsie Sioux

273 mj  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:23:08am

So these folks are worried about the sensibilites of "Asians" ( Muslims )?


I wonder why it is that folks are allowing Amazon.co.uk to sell the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

[Link: www.amazon.co.uk...]

274 right_wing2  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:24:29am

Po'g mo thoin. Hadn't thought of that one! I wonder what the Gaelic word for 'pig' is...

275 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:36:37am

re: #274 right_wing2

Po'g mo thoin. Hadn't thought of that one! I wonder what the Gaelic word for 'pig' is...


pig
TRANSLATION:
pig = n muc f2

USAGE:
pig carcases = conablach muc;
racing pigeon = colúr rásaíochta;
foundry pig iron = muciarann teilgcheárta;
canned pigmeat products = táirgí muiceola stánaithe;
Advisory Committee on Pigmeat = Coiste Comhairleach um Muiceoil;
lard and other rendered pig fat = blonag agus saill leáite eile mhuice

276 Areopagitica  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:40:38am

So its official, the British no longer have balls. WTF? The book isn't even about islam. I want some sort of moritorium in the islamic on the publication and selling of the Protocols and Mein Kampf.

277 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:44:23am

re: #15 Golem Akbar

Iowahawk? Must be satire.

I was thinking the same thing. Next up: PETA lobbies to have Goldilocks & The Three Bears removed from schools, bookstores; further states that The Big Bad Wolf was framed/exploited, Little Red Riding Hood the real criminal.

278 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:48:58am

re: #228 Is it me?

SPINY NORMAN

*asian* is a pretty meaningless term because the continent of Asia is so large. I split people from Asia into the Indian subcontinent (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh), SE Asia and the Orient. It gives me a quick geographical link to the area concerned.
I think over here you would generally find that people from the ME would automatically be called Arabs. Asians most likely would be Indian (Bangladesh seems to be ignored for some reason). Pakistanis used to be called Pakis but the skinheads in the 70s used it as a term of abuse so I don't know whether it is used much these days.

WOG - I always heard that it means Wily Oriental Gentleman and was used in WW2. I don't know if anyone uses it anymore. I don't.

Wog is almost certainly short for Golliwog, actually. The various acronyms came somewhat later. Like the acronyms for the "F" word.

279 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:49:26am

London Bridge is falling down, my fair lady.

280 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:56:11am
281 right_wing2  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 11:57:57am

So 'Po'g mo muc' would be 'kiss my pig'?

282 Andopolis  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 12:08:36pm

No, no, no... this story will never work... the big bad wolf would detonate his explosive belt next to the straw house, and the story would end before it even gets to the wood and brick houses..

I think there could be a nice Cox & Forkum cartoon in it though...

283 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 12:11:09pm

#155 MrSilverDragon

Many thanks for the video! That's always been my favorite "Three Little Pigs" too.

284 Wishbone  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 12:30:22pm

re: #245 Claire

In the U.K. apparently, the term "cowboy" IS derogatory- According to my nephew in London, it means basically a gypsy type person who rips you off- he used the example of a person who does work on your home and does a crappy job and takes your money- like an Irish Traveller sort.

Not quite, Claire. The 'Gypsy type person' described as an 'Irish traveller sort' is in fact well known across Britain as a 'Pikey'

Pikey's have a long history of theft, violence, intimidation and undesirable behaviour wherever they go. They are legendary in their ability to con people into parting with their cash for building or grounds work, only for the homeowner to find later that the work was basically a quick cosmetic once over in order to make it look like the agreed work was done.

Describing someone as a 'cowboy' in Britain, be it a builder or whatever, is to imply a maverick and carefree attitude with regard to standards of work.

285 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:13:49pm

pigs should go to the hrc for redress. this oppression from moslems is becoming intolerable.

286 SpiritOf1683  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:18:27pm

re: #284 Wishbone

re: #245 Claire


In the U.K. apparently, the term "cowboy" IS derogatory- According to my nephew in London, it means basically a gypsy type person who rips you off- he used the example of a person who does work on your home and does a crappy job and takes your money- like an Irish Traveller sort.

Not quite, Claire. The 'Gypsy type person' described as an 'Irish traveller sort' is in fact well known across Britain as a 'Pikey'

Pikey's have a long history of theft, violence, intimidation and undesirable behaviour wherever they go. They are legendary in their ability to con people into parting with their cash for building or grounds work, only for the homeowner to find later that the work was basically a quick cosmetic once over in order to make it look like the agreed work was done.

Describing someone as a 'cowboy' in Britain, be it a builder or whatever, is to imply a maverick and carefree attitude with regard to standards of work.


A cowboy builder is someone who you wouldn't let anywhwere near your home if any building work needs doing. He is an incompetent who will overcharge his customers and do a bad job. He stains the reputation of decent honest builders, and if a decent honest builder was branded as a 'cowboy' he would instantly lose all his customers.

287 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:29:38pm

I believe, with absolutely no evidence to back me upHa! Look at me acting all Liberal like that the prohibition against eating pork derives from the very real possibility of trichinosis from improperly cooked or prepared pork products.

If you notice people getting sick from eating pork and have no idea why, it makes some sort of sense to decide that God doesn't want you eating pork.

288 BLBfootballs  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:30:35pm

"All the stories that are told
Of the kings and the days of old
But there's no England now..."

--The Kinks

289 cagney  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:36:52pm

Looking at the top brass of Becta, white middle class with a wealth of experience in academic, civil service and government Quango circles, they know all about "cultural issues”.

RALMFAO.

290 BLBfootballs  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:42:18pm

re: #287 razorbacker

I believe, with absolutely no evidence to back me upHa! Look at me acting all Liberal like that the prohibition against eating pork derives from the very real possibility of trichinosis from improperly cooked or prepared pork products.

If you notice people getting sick from eating pork and have no idea why, it makes some sort of sense to decide that God doesn't want you eating pork.


Well the Muslim prohibition on pork-eating is pretty clearly a replica of the Jewish prohibition. And the Jewish prohibition on pork-eating isn't actually focused on pork so much as it is on certain classes of animals. e.g. hippopotami, turtles and camels would all be considered as equally prohibited as pork under Jewish dietary rules. Pork happens to be a member of the proscribed classes.

The other logical question is why of all the cultures that might have witnessed people getting sick from eating pork, only the Jews would have detected some kind of unusual danger in pork that nobody else seemed to notice. Notwithstanding "my son, the doctor!" I think the trichinosis theory is pretty weak. You're as likely to get sick from eating undercooked versions of any one of a hundred other animals.

291 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 1:54:22pm

re: #290 BLBfootballs

Good points all.

292 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 2:01:09pm
293 barry the baptist  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 2:06:23pm

Pure stupidity.

UK banks have also stopped giving away 'piggy banks' as well so as not to offend the Muslims. Gosh, how will we ever save up to pay our jizra?

Where the hell is a guy like Harold Haldrada (of 11th century Viking fame) when you need him?

294 Know Your Enemy  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 2:11:23pm

The slippery slope to banned pork doth slicken.

DO NOT WITHHOLD MY BACON. THIS MEANS WAR.

295 right_wing2  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 2:17:22pm

Maybe banks can give burkha banks to little girls and turban banks to little boys.

296 alan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 3:20:35pm

To the Brit Muslims and the keepers of the deranged Nanny state that the UK has become I can only say: get a life. The 3 little pigs rock!

297 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 3:41:58pm
298 phishwhisperer  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 4:26:19pm

While they’re at it, they should also ban any advertisement with pictures of beer or other alcoholic beverage (alcohol is forbidden!) And don’t forget tobacco! Then we have the problem of little red riding hood leaving the house without a male escort. It should be re-written so that not only is she ravaged by the wolf, but then receives 200 lashes and a little prison time from leaving the house without proper escort. Something I find interesting is that the prophet mohamed said having pictures of men or even animals was idolatry and therefore a sin against allah (It's forbidden!). But it’s hard not to notice all the pictures of mullahs and other Islamic leaders, hanging on muslim walls everywhere. They sure seem to be able to let that one go don’t they? It’s completely ignored because it’s not practical for them.

299 TheMole  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 6:45:23pm

A pathetic state of affairs indeed. That calls for some three little pigs cheap humor. This infidel video should be broadcast in Britain:

The Three Little Pigs - Green Jelly

300 lazypadawan  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 6:59:18pm

When the Sex Pistols said England had no future, they were about 30 years off. Welcome to Britainistan.

301 Wookieelips  Wed, Jan 23, 2008 7:12:16pm

Leave the piggies alone!
I LIKE pigs, thankyouverymuch.
I love how a group of people that wipe their butts with their hands have the nerve to call any animal "unclean".
Pigs are cute. Pigs are delicious. Pigs don't strap bombs to themselves and scream "kill the jooos!".

302 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Jan 24, 2008 12:38:15am

re: #79 jcm
There's the proof that the Wild West had the keffiyah before the Palis did.
Islam steals everything .

303 Gang of One  Thu, Jan 24, 2008 10:28:28am

Don't know why I did not think of this sooner.
Here ya go, MoHAMmed. Turn it up way loud.

304 MajorGeneralWinfieldScottHancock  Thu, Jan 24, 2008 10:33:13am

*weekly* Ha ha?


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