Thank you very much for posting this, Charles.

History and Beliefs of the Coptic Christians in Egypt

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

Rights (?) of Coptics in Egypt

It's not working.

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[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

OH MY! LOL!

Strong on war on terror. Check. Supports our military and the war effort. Check. Pro-life. Check. Spending restrictions/tax cuts. Check. Immigration. Prove it. McCain-Feingold. Really bad idea. Not unforgivable. Not morally repugnant. Some potential for improvement. I can live with that. (How's that for a ringing endorsement?)

mama winger
littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog

yep - that's me alright! haha

heartbreaking. the archbishop of canterbury needs to see what he is ushering in. the whole free world needs to see this hideous injustice and the palis need to shut their damn islam holes.

. The Christian Copts in Cairo are living in a filthy ghetto, inside the garbage.
Rats feed on the children as they sleep.
The Egyptian Government wants to keep it a secret.

Cairo receives about two billion dollars annually from the United States.

By forced conversion, attrition under the jizya, plain old killing off and other means, the once majority of Copts is now a singled out minority group and harassed continuously by the Muslims. Land rights, economic rights and freedom to practice their religion is not what the now majority of Muslims want for the Copts. I thought Christians and Jews loved being ruled by the fair and benevolent Muslim Overlords? Guess not......

I weep as I watch.

re: #3 beens21

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

way to go mama winger.

re: #11 nyc redneck

re: #3 beens21

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

way to go mama winger.

Ya think I'll get residuals? :)

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re: #11 nyc redneck

re: #3 beens21

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

way to go mama winger.

Ya think I'll get residuals? :)

you could join the writers strike.

And the fact they choose to live there under those conditions being second class citizens makes them... smart?

"If the world hated me, they will surely hate you as well" -Jesus

Come to America!

re: #14 theheat

And the fact they choose to live there under those conditions being second class citizens makes them... smart?

It makes them Egyptians. Where should they go?

re: #6 mama winger

re: #3 beens21

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...] mama winger, you made the DMNews today.

OH MY! LOL!

Strong on war on terror. Check. Supports our military and the war effort. Check. Pro-life. Check. Spending restrictions/tax cuts. Check. Immigration. Prove it. McCain-Feingold. Really bad idea. Not unforgivable. Not morally repugnant. Some potential for improvement. I can live with that. (How's that for a ringing endorsement?)mama winger
littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog

yep - that's me alright! haha

Excellent post. No garbage. Makes me proud to be a Lizard.

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where are the moslem civil rights workers who should be helping these oppressed people?!?
spit.

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We know all this stuff. Anyone with a brain knows all this stuff. Why do we need a Brit documentary that shows it? Because people don't WANT to know the truth, and their eyes are squeezed shut so tight that we need crowbars to open them.

Why isn't stuff like this shown in schools instead of Fahrenheit 911 and Al Gore's Gaia worship?

Would someone seethe?

Daughter is here - gotta run .......

bbl

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We know all this stuff. Anyone with a brain knows all this stuff. Why do we need a Brit documentary that shows it? Because people don't WANT to know the truth, and their eyes are squeezed shut so tight that we need crowbars to open them.

Why isn't stuff like this shown in schools instead of Fahrenheit 911 and Al Gore's Gaia worship?

Would someone seethe?

I accept the tag team tag and will seethe until I'm re-tagged.

re: #24 mama winger

Daughter is here - gotta run .......

bbl

Little Wingette!

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these people, simply because they are christians, are forced to into such a degrading situation just to survive. it is a testament to the human spirit that they can even go on living, breathing, sleeping and eating garbage. what a prison on earth for them. this is islam.

I'm sure the UN is all over this.

/extreme

Wow it looks like Gaza.........only, worse.

Human Rights Watch are probably rushing to the scene as I type.

We have moved backwards in time...to an uncivilized civilization.

And we worry about the Mormons.....

The Copts are doing better than the Egyptian Jews. Second Class , alive is better than First Class, dead.

Tell me again how respectful Islam of religious minorities. The truth is that Islam allows rich minorities to funnel resource to the ummah, but once the cash goes away the minorities find it increasing difficult to survive. The Copts survive because the muslims cannot provide trash service because it involves dealing with the unclean. Islam can only function where muslims can live as a privileged caste.

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Another fine example of the tolerance of the Religion of Peace

This is an appalling deterioration of a humanitarian catastrophe.

Sorry. My mistake. The humanitarian catastrophe is in Gaza where Israel reduced electricity by 1%.

This Dhimmi existence by Christians in Egypt is fine. It must be. I never hear SOS Rice or British Foreign Secretary, David Miliband- or any of the usual entities who are so very involved with "human rights"- ever mention any concern.

BUT

Miliband 'concerned with Gaza situation'

"We are extremely concerned by reports that Israel has reduced electricity supplies to Gaza," they said. "We believe that such action risks a further deterioration in the humanitarian situation in Gaza without improving the security situation.

The ministers expressed concern about working conditions in the strip and called on Israel to heed to international law.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

This is the fucked up World we live in....and the fault is not with Islam it is with the Governments of the West. Never mind turning a blind eye, we actually pay 'Palestinians' as they murder Israels and pay Egypt $Billions while they commit such outrage on Christians. Muslims will be Muslims but what rule book says we must be Dhimmis. Oh, yeah, that book.

I, for one, cannot wait to bow down before our new lesbian overlords.

Egypt is the first Islamic country I ever heard of doing a public competition of ''who is the most religious Muslim."
I mean, they cover their little girls younger than anywhere els and their men hit the carpet 47 times a day harder than anywhere else.
So, it makes sense to me that their men make a practice of kidnapping any Coptic girl old enough to impregnate, rape her then forcibly marry and convert her.
I just wish the Copts in that slum could keep the recyclables at the perimeters and have some nice places to live in the center. Just saying.
Thanks for linking to it, Charles, it was horrific and necessary for the world to be exposed to it.
I'm sending the links out to many people today.....before it disappears.

Roger Ebert Hates Republicans

...in case you didn't already know.

And, oh great, another movie proving that Cheney, Bush, et al like to torture and kill innocent people.

Come to America!

moslems tell us : islam is not here to be equal to any religion, it is here to dominate. we need to look at what they say. it is obvious they mean it.

are the jews responsible for the copts plight like bad weather and dandruff

The whole Middle-East is a cesspool because of Islam. The sooner we can find an alternative source of energy and tell these pigs to fend for themselves the better the world is going to be.
In the meantime I sincerely hope that our governments know where all the Muslims in the West are, so they can be rounded up and shipped back.

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Egypt is the first Islamic country I ever heard of doing a public competition of ''who is the most religious Muslim."
I mean, they cover their little girls younger than anywhere els and their men hit the carpet 47 times a day harder than anywhere else.
So, it makes sense to me that their men make a practice of kidnapping any Coptic girl old enough to impregnate, rape her then forcibly marry and convert her.
I just wish the Copts in that slum could keep the recyclables at the perimeters and have some nice places to live in the center. Just saying.
Thanks for linking to it, Charles, it was horrific and necessary for the world to be exposed to it.
I'm sending the links out to many people today.....before it disappears.

look how industrious they are. compare these people to the palis.
the world is upside down.

A few things I few from this.

While the Coptics voluntarily live in that slum, if they do not, they are abused and attacked.

Egypt actively discriminates against Christians in their enforcement of the law and participation. That story about the family's daughter is disturbing. What was the "official story?" She converted to Islam and married someone?

The Christians in Egypt are true believers. I'm almost ashamed that I am so lackadaisical in my belief given their dedication to Christianity.

The Egyptian "minders" are idiots. A 6" tall Anglo-Saxon in Egypt can "give them the slip?" Granted, it's not as bad as a 6" tall Anglo-Saxon in Hong Kong, but still how hard is it to find this guy. Look for the tall white dude.

Let' em know how you feel!

Email: Embassy@egyptembassy.net

re: #46 Little Boomer

Let' em know how you feel!

Email: Embassy@egyptembassy.net

They don't care how we feel. Submit or die, remember?

Silly infidel.

As Bat Ye'or pointed out: Islamic tolerance is not the same thing as rights, tolerance is conditional. I guess this is the benevolent side of it, too.

Kinda like being taken by the hand and shown what to expect by the Ghost of Christmas Future.
Paying attention, europe?

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And not a peep from Mr Born again Chrisitan Bush, oh wait that's right Bush only cares about money.

re: #52 pegcity

And not a peep from Mr Born again Chrisitan Bush, oh wait that's right Bush only cares about money.

What money do we get from Egypt?

Stay on track... he's the president, not the theologian-in-chief.

Can we give THEM a state instead?

" Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. "
- Matthew 5:10

from part three "it is better to live here in the rubbish where there is JESUS than to live with mulsims!" now that is FAITH

i saw those neighborhoods from the tour bus, the trash is unbelievable, i learned about the Copts then. I know it is not much but now sponsor an Egyptian child thru Save the Children in a Coptic area in southern Egypt, the family wiht the kidnapped daugheter frightens me for "my"daughter she is now age 12.

Those of us who are Christians here, and I'm guessing there are many .. find a way to help people like this. We live with such comforts, lazily gliding along our safe, clean lives .. always talking about "helping others", but never doing much about it. Start asking questions! Get out of your comfort zone and find a way to reach communities like this! Take a stand!

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Those of us who are Christians here, and I'm guessing there are many .. find a way to help people like this. We live with such comforts, lazily gliding along our safe, clean lives .. always talking about "helping others", but never doing much about it. Start asking questions! Get out of your comfort zone and find a way to reach communities like this! Take a stand!

Save the Children, pick Egypt, girl or boy

Charles, thank you so much for posting this.
I've been working on gathering and writings about the plight of Christians in the Muslim world for years and it is getting worse and worse, bloodier and bloodier. "First the Saturday people... (who they've now murdered or driven out with nothing but the shirts on their backs). Next the Sunday people..."
Wake up, world.

OT:
Get Ready For Geert Wilders Film "Fitna"

Part of the rich tapestry of Islamic culture.

*spit*

But, it's ok, the Koran says so! Come on, people! The words of God, as told to his most humble Prophet, say that people of the Book are not as good as true believers. They are not real people anyway, not in a Koranic sense...It is fitting that they live like this...all infidels should know their place.

/sarc

Amen to that,

you can learn much more about world wide Christian persecution at the Voice of the Martyrs Martyrs for Christ,, not virgins

[Link: www.persecution.com...]

re: #59 undhimmicratic

Charles, thank you so much for posting this.
I've been working on gathering and writings about the plight of Christians in the Muslim world for years and it is getting worse and worse, bloodier and bloodier. "First the Saturday people... (who they've now murdered or driven out with nothing but the shirts on their backs). Next the Sunday people..."
Wake up, world.

I've sent these links to my representatives, and I urge you all to do the same.

re: #64 godfrey

I've sent these links to my representatives, and I urge you all to do the same.

how about the Chair of Religious Studies?

and the people involved in rligiou 'dialogue'?

GMTA, ploome.

religious

re: #66 godfrey

GMTA, ploome.

flattery will get you anywhere

:)

Iron like a Lion in Zion
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History of Jihad against the Egyptian Coptic Christians

Ok so as a Jew, I'll make sure the messiah doesn't come today by posting, but can you Christians tell me why there are no Congressional resolutions, no pressure for action here? Egypt gets a couple billion a year in US aid, but why is Charles a lone voice in the wilderness? Don't blame the MSM, they hate us too, but AIPAC gets all sorts of resolutions.

We support our oppressed breatheren all over the world, but why not even NGO actions to help these Christians? Same thing everywhere in RoP-ville; the Christians in Bethlehem, and elsewhere are scared Dhimmi, but why no huge marches, no demands at the UN (ha!), not even mass tourism to support them....what gives?

/not joking!

Another good resource is [Link: www.compassdirect.org...]

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Hindutva (Hindu Nationalists) and the war on Christians in India

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as a American I can only say- the obvious- politics and money

as a Christian I can only say only God knows, as HE is in control of his plan from the beginning, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow,

re: #70 Kobyashi Maru

Ok so as a Jew, I'll make sure the messiah doesn't come today by posting, but can you Christians tell me why there are no Congressional resolutions, no pressure for action here? Egypt gets a couple billion a year in US aid, but why is Charles a lone voice in the wilderness? Don't blame the MSM, they hate us too, but AIPAC gets all sorts of resolutions.

We support our oppressed breatheren all over the world, but why not even NGO actions to help these Christians? Same thing everywhere in RoP-ville; the Christians in Bethlehem, and elsewhere are scared Dhimmi, but why no huge marches, no demands at the UN (ha!), not even mass tourism to support them....what gives?

/not joking!

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( what's with my spelling today?)

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I knew that the situation was rather desperate for the Copts in Egypt but this video just solidified my impressions. It needs to be aired in every house of worship in this country.

Every year we give the Egyptians more than $2 billion in aid - $1.3 B in military and $800 M in direct economic. It is shameful.

The POTUS claims he is a Christian, how he could allow this and other Mussel-man atrocities is beyond me. Oh yeah we need to pay the Jizyah oil tax to terrorists.

Then I saw thrones, and sitting on them were those to whom authority to act as judges and to pass sentence was entrusted. Also I saw the souls of those who had been slain with axes [beheaded] for their witnessing to Jesus and [for preaching and testifying] for the Word of God, and who had refused to pay homage to the beast or his statue and had not accepted his mark or permitted it to be stamped on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived again and ruled with the Messiah a thousand years.
~ Revelation 20:4

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Christian Persecution In Iraq: Father Ragheed Ganni

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I think it also has to do with being afraid of religious advocacy in the secular state.

yes, I am sure it has

religious advocacy is rediculed, and seen as crusading

except for coddling islam.

Christian persecution in Pakistan

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( what's with my spelling today?)

yowr spelin luks okey 2 mee

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Zanzibar - Muslims kidnapping Christian children and forcing them to convert to Islam

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ha ha ,did u lern to spel in a las vegus skool

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re: #79 ploome hineni

( what's with my spelling today?)

yowr spelin luks okey 2 mee

'...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness..."

The demise of islam will come, and the Coptic Christians will see a better day.

Palestinian Christians Facing Persecution

re: #52 pegcity

And not a peep from Mr Born again Chrisitan Bush, oh wait that's right Bush only cares about money.

Not exactly - all he cares about is the flow of oil. One of the many mistakes Bush has made in office was to cow-tow to the Bedouin bushwhackers and continue to play Dhimmi. After invading Iraq he should have resolutely placed his hand on the Sheiks shoulders and informed them politely that if they didn't cooperate that they were next. Peace through strength not Dhimmitude.

Persecuted Christians - Sudan

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'...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness..."

The demise of islam will come, and the Coptic Christians will see a better day.

True as that may be, thats little solace to those being persecuted and prosecuted for their beleifs today !

if u cn rd ths u cn mk gd mny n gt a gd jb

Thanks Babba for all the links! All nicely packaged and ready for the next salvo.

News from the persecuted church around the world

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if u cn rd ths u cn mk gd mny n gt a gd jb

Alex,,, may I buy a vowel ?

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if u cn rd ths u cn mk gd mny n gt a gd jb

With bennies?

According to David B. Barrett's research, 70 million Christians were killed for their faith across 20 centuries (Barrett, Kurian & Johnson 2001:5). and 65% of them—45,000,000—died in the 20th Century (Zenit)

Today, in 79 countries some 2.2 billion people (50.6% of the world in 1980) live under restrictions on their religious freedom, despite the guarantees in those countries' constitutions"

According to Paul Marshall/Lela Gilbert’s Their Blood Cries Out, over 200,000,000 Christians are suffering persecution and an additional 400,000,000 million people are suffering from discrimination and legal impediments. (Marshall/Gilbert: 4)

Barrett’s survey estimates that 173,000 Christians are martyred every year for their faith. Although communism In North Korea, China and other such regimes and, as Babbazee points out in India, radical Hinduism contribute to the problem, Islam is the primary persecutor of Christians in today's world

The extermination of Iraqi Christians

Islam deforms the human image wherever its shadows fall.

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re: #79 ploome hineni

( what's with my spelling today?)

yowr spelin luks okey 2 mee

thanks........lol

This is similar to the treatment of Jews by medieval Christian Europe.Stuff them in a ghetto,villify and diminish, restrict their ability to earn a living.Jews could only participate in usury, these Copts in garbage picking.Fortunately Christianity had an enlightenment, unfortunately, Islam won't anytime soon.

Murdering Christians in "secular" Turkey

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nonsense, everyone knows that pali-sin-ians are muslims, the world must cower to their every want and need,
/sarc (if i really need to)

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if u cn rd ths u cn mk gd mny n gt a gd jb

Alex,,, may I buy a vowel ?

hahahha

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