They do have much in common, so why not go for the obvious.

A target rich enviroment if there ever was one.

Hizbullah in uniform? That's a switch.

Raise your hands if you want a cookie!

re: #2 turn

A target rich enviroment if there ever was one.

No shit. If you are at war then you must wage war. Did the IDF know about this?

Do they goose step? Goose stepping is so chic'. Of course AP wouldn't mention any similarities, it's all the fault of the Joooz!

They should bury them in that position once they (the IDF) do away with them...

People, thousands of years from now, will wonder about them...

re: #6 pingjockey

The Iranians goose step.

Conservative Christians are the real Nazis!

/

I thought it was a vlaams belang salute.

re: #5 VegasRick
That is what I was thinking when the funeral coverage was on. A couple of Tomahawks full of cluster munitions.

No, that's National Guardsmen saluting the evil Bushitler.

/need i?

Here's Arafat's uncle the Grand Mufti with Hitler..

[Link: images.google.com...]

Happy dead white opressors day. moonbat off.

waving bye to finkelstein.

re: #11 pingjockey

re: #5 VegasRick
That is what I was thinking when the funeral coverage was on. A couple of Tomahawks full of cluster munitions.

Definitely. Spread the love.

What the caption doesn't say is the photographer had just asked which of the men missed 'Desperate Housewives' this week, and surprisingly they all raised their hands.

re: #3 lawhawk

I can only surmise that these pics are great for propaganda, since the uniformed version never seem to be found on any battlefield.

Only "civilians". And our "free press" eats it up every time.

re: #11 pingjockey

re: #5 VegasRick
That is what I was thinking when the funeral coverage was on. A couple of Tomahawks full of cluster munitions.

These fuckers are so bold because of stupid ROE's, when at war kill thy enemy. Period.

re: #11 pingjockey

re: #5 VegasRick
That is what I was thinking when the funeral coverage was on. A couple of Tomahawks full of cluster munitions.

All it would take would be one Tomahawk w/cluster.

re: #16 Ward Cleaver
Can you imagine the seething and the uproar in the media that would've ensued if the IAF had done that? Just the thought of it happening though brings a smile.

ShortShit and Hitler.

Bosnian Muslims and Hitler.

Nazis and Muslims.

Hizbollah militants raise their arms in salute of assassinated Hezbollah top commander Imad Mughniyeh during a memorial service in his home village of Tair Debba, south Lebanon, Sunday, Feb. 17, 2008. (AP Photo/Tara Todras-Whitehill)

In their zeal to emulate the little shahid shithead, hopefully they'll cut to the chase and get right to the dying.

The World Mohammed Can't Wait.

And not one news organization will point out the striking similarity between the Hizballah salute and the Nazi salute. I can assure you that if this was "Aryan white supremacists", then this salute would be known for what it is.

Here's a telegram from Himmler to the Grand Mufti...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.

Signed: Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"

re: #22 MandyManners
Demons of a feather, flock together.

AP notice? That is their secret reporter membership signal/handshake. They would never reveal that one.

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

No, that's National Guardsmen saluting the evil Bushitler.

/need i?

No you don't. Nothing like good sarcastic humor!

Well- they're in uniform, so maybe they really meant it when they said they wanted open war with Israel, but then again- they are hiding under a canopy, the cowards.

Charles - Was there an accompanying context/story to support this photo? Or, was it simply in the AP site?

Thanks

This is the website for the photographer Tara Todras-Whitehill who didn't happen to notice that her subjects thought they were Nazis.

That's understandable, her "passion is photographing women's issues."

[Link: www.taratw.com...]

The canopy they're hiding in is probably set up in a schoolyard somewhere. I wouldn't put it past them, the b***ds.

The Grand Mufti must be so proud! His little hitler boys youth have grown up to be good little actual freaking real Eichmann's.

Heil Allah!.. no Hitler Akbar! ... Look, front row sing the first verse of "Deutschland uber Alles" in the background while I rant. ... Why can't I rant, I never get to rant ...

Heute Lebanon, morgen die Welt!
Heil Allah!

This gives rise to the question:

How would they, good patriots all, advance to this:

Die Fahne hoch, die Reihen sind geschlossen,

SA marziert, mit ruhig traurig bin.

Kamaraden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen...

Let's just call them morons and de done with it...

re: #30 Colin Nelson

Charles - Was there an accompanying context/story to support this photo? Or, was it simply in the AP site?

Thanks

Click the pic, it links the source.

AP photo an caption.

This is simply a case of the wrong picture with the right caption. There must have been a mix up, they're just Ron Paul supporters.

/

But President Obama will talk nice to them and all will be well.

Hezbollah's version of Hitler Youth.

re: #40 Cygnus

Hezbollah's version of Hitler Youth.

Very interesting! Do you know what that photo originally went with?

Just the other night, I watched an official giving a speech to what appeared to be a government assembly (what looked like a BIG Mexican seal behind the podium, BIG auditorium). This was on one of the several Spanish-language cable stations down here. However, I don't think he was speaking Spanish; a TV announcer/translator was booming over him the entire time; if it was in Spanish, there would have been no need.

He was giving the straight-armed Fascist salute during the entire speech. I watched for five minutes, although I didn't understand a word.

Couldn't figure out where he was; apparently, there are Nazis everywhere.

re: #29 Sharmuta

Well- they're in uniform, so maybe they really meant it when they said they wanted open war with Israel, but then again- they are hiding under a canopy, the cowards.

They're only wearing those for the funeral. To them, wearing cammies is a full dress uniform. They'll be back in jeans and t-shirts for the fighting.

They are all just showing the general direction his head flew when it detached from his body. ZZZOOOM.

Hizbollah militants raise their arms in salute of assassinated Hezbollah top commander

Is there a reason why the AP is spelling 'Hizbollah' two different ways in the same sentence?

re: #45 konservo

Hizbollah militants raise their arms in salute of assassinated Hezbollah top commander

Is there a reason why the AP is spelling 'Hizbollah' two different ways in the same sentence?

incompetence?

It's the Islamic MindMeld procedure.

Wow. That caption says really reveals a lot about the AP.

re: #45 konservo

Hizbollah militants raise their arms in salute of assassinated Hezbollah top commander

Is there a reason why the AP is spelling 'Hizbollah' two different ways in the same sentence?

AP style guide, cover your bases and avoid a fatwa and special accessory from them for your car.
/

Awww- the wittle ayatollah is cwying!

One:

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said the United States is still reviewing the case following the death last Tuesday of commander Imad Mughniyeh. Hezbollah blamed Israel and has pledged to attack Jewish targets worldwide in retaliation. That led the FBI last week to be vigilant for possible threats in the U.S. against synagogues and other potential Jewish targets.

Two:

There has been an explosion at an oil refinery in Big Spring, located about 250 miles west of Fort Worth, near Midland.
The refinery is owned by Dallas-based Alon USA. It employs about 170 people and produces about 70,000 barrels of oil a day.

Three:

Alon USA Energy, a subsidiary of Alon Israel Oil

I suppose it could be a coincidence.

re: #45 konservo

Hizbollah militants raise their arms in salute of assassinated Hezbollah top commander

Is there a reason why the AP is spelling 'Hizbollah' two different ways in the same sentence?

Hiz and Her's.

Of course, we may all have interpreted this wrong. Perhaps it's just the daily Hizballah manicure inspection.

"Hey, Achmed, do my cuticles look okay to you?"

/not even gonna bother...

re: #50 Sharmuta

Awww- the wittle ayatollah is cwying!

Got an 'image not available', even after signing in to Yahoo. Did they take it down? There were over 1600 recommendations!

re: #51 wrenchwench

One:

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said the United States is still reviewing the case following the death last Tuesday of commander Imad Mughniyeh. Hezbollah blamed Israel and has pledged to attack Jewish targets worldwide in retaliation. That led the FBI last week to be vigilant for possible threats in the U.S. against synagogues and other potential Jewish targets.

Two:

There has been an explosion at an oil refinery in Big Spring, located about 250 miles west of Fort Worth, near Midland.
The refinery is owned by Dallas-based Alon USA. It employs about 170 people and produces about 70,000 barrels of oil a day.

Three:

Alon USA Energy, a subsidiary of Alon Israel Oil

I suppose it could be a coincidence.

Cycle is too fast. To put on an operation in the USA to blow a refinery takes a lot longer than six days.

Refineries are being pushed to the max all the time because of the lack of capacity.

re: #50 Sharmuta

Awww- the wittle ayatollah is cwying!

AW! SHUT UP! Or I will give you sumthin' to really cry about!

re: #49 jcm

OT:

Picked up a used Metcal soldering station at a surplus store last week, and am trying it out this AM. An hour ago I switched it off and went on to other things. Just went back and took hold of the tip to change it. YEOW! The power switch must be stuck in "ON". Now I know why it was surplused out.

*nursing my index finger*

It could be a paper hangers convention.

re: #54 gop_patriot

Sorry! I guess that's why preview would be my friend. Here it is- sorry about that.

/And I did preview this one.

Wow, they own uniforms!
That means their call for ''open war'' with Israel can be two uniformed forces fighting one another without the human shields, schools, hospitals and so on getting in the way.
So, to misquote "Aliens,"will it be a stand-up fight or back to a bug hunt?

re: #51 wrenchwench

One:

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said the United States is still reviewing the case following the death last Tuesday of commander Imad Mughniyeh. Hezbollah blamed Israel and has pledged to attack Jewish targets worldwide in retaliation. That led the FBI last week to be vigilant for possible threats in the U.S. against synagogues and other potential Jewish targets.

Two:

There has been an explosion at an oil refinery in Big Spring, located about 250 miles west of Fort Worth, near Midland.
The refinery is owned by Dallas-based Alon USA. It employs about 170 people and produces about 70,000 barrels of oil a day.

Three:

Alon USA Energy, a subsidiary of Alon Israel Oil

I suppose it could be a coincidence.

Would terrorists have the time to plan it?

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #49 jcm

OT:

Picked up a used Metcal soldering station at a surplus store last week, and am trying it out this AM. An hour ago I switched it off and went on to other things. Just went back and took hold of the tip to change it. YEOW! The power switch must be stuck in "ON". Now I know why it was surplused out.

*nursing my index finger*

The timer must be busted. Won't tell you how many times I've got all set up with some little part positioned on a board under the scope, then go to soldier the pins and ... nothing happens, I look up and the Metcal has switched off. grrr!

The Left will continue to dismiss the Right's warnings about these fascist wannabes, but if Hezb'Allah finally gets the means to commit a horrendous crime against humanity, the Left will say "How were we to know?"

That's what grinds me. It's in plain sight, for crying out loud.

(PS. Here's an example. John Kerry said when debating John O'Neill that if America bugs out of Vietnam, there would only be 5000 casualties. There were about 2 million. How was he to know?)

re: #55 jcm

re: #51 wrenchwench

One:

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said the United States is still reviewing the case following the death last Tuesday of commander Imad Mughniyeh. Hezbollah blamed Israel and has pledged to attack Jewish targets worldwide in retaliation. That led the FBI last week to be vigilant for possible threats in the U.S. against synagogues and other potential Jewish targets.

Two:

There has been an explosion at an oil refinery in Big Spring, located about 250 miles west of Fort Worth, near Midland.
The refinery is owned by Dallas-based Alon USA. It employs about 170 people and produces about 70,000 barrels of oil a day.

Three:

Alon USA Energy, a subsidiary of Alon Israel Oil

I suppose it could be a coincidence.

Cycle is too fast. To put on an operation in the USA to blow a refinery takes a lot longer than six days.

Refineries are being pushed to the max all the time because of the lack of capacity.

Would it take longer than six days if plans were already in place to do it?

re: #41 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #40 Cygnus

Hezbollah's version of Hitler Youth.

Very interesting! Do you know what that photo originally went with?

Go back to the picture and click on the right arrow until it's up to picture 18. They're Muslim Hizbollah Scouts or something like that.

Iran's foreign minister personally attended the ceremony and was seated next to Mugniyeh's father.

Hezbollah is Iran; Iran is Hezbollah; Hezbollah is fascist; Iran is fascist; fascism must be destroyed.

re: #44 Gaye Kukkin-Offenyam

They are all just showing the general direction his head flew when it detached from his body. ZZZOOOM.

ZZZOOOM...bounce...bounce bounce...Rolll...

Face it. The Holocaust never ended. This is a photo of the Holocaust. The caption is an example of Holocaust denial.

re: #55 jcm

re: #51 wrenchwench

Cycle is too fast. To put on an operation in the USA to blow a refinery takes a lot longer than six days.

Refineries are being pushed to the max all the time because of the lack of capacity.

re: #61 MandyManners

Would terrorists have the time to plan it?

jcm says no. I hope that's correct. I like the way he put it: "Cycle is too fast." A problem I rarely get to enjoy.

re: #59 Sharmuta

:) Thanks for the link. Does he look like he's fake-crying to you? lol *snif*

re: #51 wrenchwench

(Big Spring, TX, oil refinery explosion)

I suppose it could be a coincidence.

It's most likely just an explosion. Oil refineries are dangerous places to work. We had a massive explosion back at one of the local refineries in 1984 that killed 17, rocked a 16 mile radius area, and sent a mushroom cloud into the sky. It was caused by some poor welds.

re: #55 jcm

Bad assumption, brother.

Hezbollah has agents in place, targets selected and weapons waiting.

They were called the A-Team of terror and they really are.

#37 JCM
Thanks - since there is only the caption, it does speak volumes about AP but nothing that we have not grown to expect.

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Big Springs is a scary place to drive through (especially in the summer heat) - the smell of oil is so strong that you just pray no one throws a match out their car window.

Of course, if Hizb'allan doesn't take claim to it, you can bet that some conspiracy site like Rense will claim that all the Jooo refinery workers were sent home at midnight.

re: #63 Noah's Arrrgh

The Left will continue to dismiss the Right's warnings about these fascist wannabes, but if Hezb'Allah finally gets the means to commit a horrendous crime against humanity, the Left will say "How were we to know?"

That's what grinds me. It's in plain sight, for crying out loud.

(PS. Here's an example. John Kerry said when debating John O'Neill that if America bugs out of Vietnam, there would only be 5000 casualties. There were about 2 million. How was he to know?)

Well said, +1

re: #66 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Iran's foreign minister personally attended the ceremony and was seated next to Mugniyeh's father.

Hezbollah is Iran; Iran is Hezbollah; Hezbollah is fascist; Iran is fascist; fascism must be destroyed.

I have that old Dr. Pepper ditty in my head now.

re: #65 Cygnus

Got it. Thanks. I hadn't cycled through them before.

re: #70 gop_patriot

I did think of bill clinton, but I'm not sure if that's more insulting to bubba or the ayatollah.

re: #64 MandyManners

Would it take longer than six days if plans were already in place to do it?

They would have to have be planning that target.

To strike and get a big bang you'd need:
Detailed plant plans.
Details on the security.
Planned and recon for infiltration and exfiltration.
If time delayed how to place the package without anyone knowing.

If it is an attack it has been in the works for this target for a while. Changing timing is problematic, an attacked would have been planned for a particular time, shift, and security coverage. Changing time would require recon of the new scheduling.

It's possible it's an attack. I seems very unlikely to related to taking out Mug.

re: #69 wrenchwench

re: #55 jcm

re: #51 wrenchwench

Cycle is too fast. To put on an operation in the USA to blow a refinery takes a lot longer than six days.

Refineries are being pushed to the max all the time because of the lack of capacity.

re: #61 MandyManners

Would terrorists have the time to plan it?

jcm says no. I hope that's correct. I like the way he put it: "Cycle is too fast." A problem I rarely get to enjoy.

I wouldn't think it's too soon. It's not a secret where Israeli assets are located and I'm sure there are plans to attack them at will.

I'm just doing some stream-of-consciousness thinking here.

I don't suppose they are saluting the person who blew this pig up?

Speaking of Nazis, I found a site so loathsome I cannot link to it- Bradley Smith's Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust.

I must go bathe now.

They assert the ovens and the trains never happen. If Israel is nuked, we will be told Israel's nuclear stockpile exploded.

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #65 Cygnus

Got it. Thanks. I hadn't cycled through them before.

It's a bicycle thread!

re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Which model, I can pull up an instruction sheet for you. Power switch on top, if it has multiple coax connectors for cords and handles then that gets switched to one you want to use. All our Metcals have a timers, I'm not sure if all Metcals have timers.

re: #72 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

As others have indicated, in lieu of any evidence to the contrary, I would assume this is an industrial accident, but reserve any conclusions until an investigation is completed.

Refineries are volatile places, and accidents do happen.

re: #72 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

re: #55 jcm

Bad assumption, brother.

Hezbollah has agents in place, targets selected and weapons waiting.

They were called the A-Team of terror and they really are.

It's possible, just don't thinks it's likely.

It needs to be looked at seriously. Never ruled out anything until it's definite.

They would have to have been spun up on the target and just given a go order for the timing to work in relation to a retaliatory strike for Mug.

re: #77 MandyManners

keep it there

if you read my piece in the deadthread this morning, we are on the countdown to war, the only question is whether thousands will die if the west acts now or if millions will die if we wait.

Never forget, Hitler almost won.

re: #42 OldLineTexan

Just the other night, I watched an official giving a speech to what appeared to be a government assembly (what looked like a BIG Mexican seal behind the podium, BIG auditorium). This was on one of the several Spanish-language cable stations down here. However, I don't think he was speaking Spanish; a TV announcer/translator was booming over him the entire time; if it was in Spanish, there would have been no need.

He was giving the straight-armed Fascist salute during the entire speech. I watched for five minutes, although I didn't understand a word.

Couldn't figure out where he was; apparently, there are Nazis everywhere.

If he was in front of a big Mexican flag, why would he not be speaking Spanish? Although there are some serious dialect differences...

During the time of the Spanish Civil War, there was a Fascist movement in Mexico allied with Franco called the Sinarchists. Maybe they still exist.

The Spanish Falange Party had as one of its planks the reunification of Spain with the former Spanish colonies in the New World...sort of a revived Spanish empire. The Falange celebrated October 12th, what we call Columbus Day, as El Dia de la Raza. Day of the Race. Sound familiar?

re: #85 jcm

re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Which model, I can pull up an instruction sheet for you. Power switch on top, if it has multiple coax connectors for cords and handles then that gets switched to one you want to use. All our Metcals have a timers, I'm not sure if all Metcals have timers.

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

re: #90 Cygnus

re: #85 jcm

re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Which model, I can pull up an instruction sheet for you. Power switch on top, if it has multiple coax connectors for cords and handles then that gets switched to one you want to use. All our Metcals have a timers, I'm not sure if all Metcals have timers.

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

Its like a Henweigh.

Soldering System p/n: STSS-001
Power Unit p/n: RFG-30

Thanks in advance for this in-coming bit of info. I haven't YET taken time to see if a pdf is available on Metcal's site. I do plan to.

I am aware of the timers, ran into that before.

it's just that old roman salute...

re: #85 jcm

This is a single-output station, and the power switch IS on the very top.

re: #90 Cygnus

re: #85 jcm

re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Which model, I can pull up an instruction sheet for you. Power switch on top, if it has multiple coax connectors for cords and handles then that gets switched to one you want to use. All our Metcals have a timers, I'm not sure if all Metcals have timers.

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

I'm guessing that: a) it has nothing to do with mezcal; and b) the two shouldn't be used in conjunction.

As I scrolled through the 138 pics of the funeral the recurring theme in the captions is that, wait fo it... Israel did it!

Something about the theory of the Big Lie being effective because of the constant repetition comes to mind.

I hear Obama and Hillary were supposed to attend but scheduling conflicts prevented them both.

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cyngus: An industrial-grade soldering station.

re: #90 Cygnus

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

Mid-range soldiering equipment. Metcal, soldier units start at about $400. So your average electronic hobbist is not going to have one. We use them on or general soldier stations. For my high end rework I use a $5000 JBC soldier station.

re: #93 so.cal.swede

it's just that old roman salute...

The Nazis copied a lot of symbols from Rome to create their Reich, including the standards they would carry and the Sieg Heil (like Hail Cesar).

re: #97 LeftJustAintRight

I hear Obama and Hillary were supposed to attend but scheduling conflicts prevented them both.

Of course they didn't attend. They sent representatives.

/only half-kidding

re: #99 jcm

re: #90 Cygnus

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

Mid-range soldiering equipment. Metcal, soldier units start at about $400. So your average electronic hobbist is not going to have one. We use them on or general soldier stations. For my high end rework I use a $5000 JBC soldier station.

I and my fellow ignorant lizards thank you,

The nazis, if they had one soldier killed, would select 100 jews (or italians or poles or czechs, depending on the circumstances) at random and shoot them.
Hezbolla is threatening the same. Notice the similarities?

A photo that says everything about the Lebanese terror gang Hizballah, as they pay tribute to dead mass murderer Imad Mughniyeh with a straight-armed Nazi salute. The Associated Press caption, of course, takes no notice of it.

That's because the Jews are the new Nazis. (I got the memo.) How dare you dirty kuffir blaspheme those great and noble muslim warriors from Palestine by calling them Nazis!

/Our holy mujahedeen have arthritis of the elbow from using their weapons continuously against those 'sons of apes and pigs' Nazis.

re: #89 Colonel Panik

As I wrote:

what looked like a BIG Mexican seal behind the podium

No flags.

I don't know where he was, or where is was from. Seeing that salute transfixed me for several minutes.

re: #97 LeftJustAintRight

But I am certain that their foreign policy aides were there!

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cyngus: An industrial-grade soldering station.

Bah, you ruined my Henweigh joke.

Oh, and check out the dateline/location.

South Lebanon.

Hey UNIFIL, your mission under UN SCR 1701 is to disarm all militias operating in South Lebanon. That includes Hizbullah. So, a militia operating with full uniforms out in the open is a group operating defiantly in opposition to your stated purpose.

What are you going to do about it? *crickets*

UNIFIL and Lebanon complain when Israel overflies Lebanon to find out what's going on with Hizbullah, but when there's indisputable proof that Hizbullah is openly in violation of SCR 1701, everyone suddenly shuts up, turns a blind eye, and ignores the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Nice.

What would be nicer is if Hizbullah stays in those uniforms when they're busy fighting with Israel instead of switching back into civies so that they can blend in with the Lebanese public and all casualties can be claimed as civilian and not Hizbullah as we all know.

This will probably seem like a dense question, but it's something I've been wondering for some time: Is that straight-arm salute used by outfits around the world -- although associated by us with Nazis -- like, say, jackboots? Or is it more exclusive to Nazis, like swastikas?

I've seen references to that salute in enough other places that make me wonder if Hezballah is doing it with the Nazis in mind -- not that that alleviates their Nazi-likeness on the more important matters like world domination and anti-Semitic fervor...

re: #102 Cygnus

If it's not your little corner of the knowledge world I don't consider it ignorance.

I consider ignorance what someone should know but doesn't.

Obama supporters should know he is a Gramsician Whore, but do not, therefore they are ignorant.

re: #88 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

re: #77 MandyManners

keep it there

if you read my piece in the deadthread this morning, we are on the countdown to war, the only question is whether thousands will die if the west acts now or if millions will die if we wait.

Never forget, Hitler almost won.

Hitler and WWII never existed.
(Monty Python argument thread)

re: #102 Cygnus

Yu is now edukated wit hilee purtinant infurmasion
(-:

re: #90 Cygnus

re: #85 jcm

re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #62 jcm

Check me out on proceedure here. I haven't used Metcals a whole lot.

I turned off what sure-as-heck looks like a Power switch on top of the unit. Is that not what it is?

Which model, I can pull up an instruction sheet for you. Power switch on top, if it has multiple coax connectors for cords and handles then that gets switched to one you want to use. All our Metcals have a timers, I'm not sure if all Metcals have timers.

I'll risk looking like a total idiot and ask, What's a Metcal?
/ducks under desk

It's an awesome finger melter.

re: #107 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

*grin* sorry

re: #112 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #102 Cygnus

Yu is now edukated wit hilee purtinant infurmasion
(-:

I just spilled fresh hot coffee in my lap.
I sue you for 2 million! ;-)

re: #109 Cognito

Wiki notes who uses the Roman salute, which was coopted by the Nazis from the Italians. The Taiwanese use it, as do the Palestinian terrorists. Neonazis also use it regularly.

re: #113 debutaunt

*grin*
In case you're in this thread late, see my #57 above.

re: #116 lawhawk

Apparently it was the original salute for American schoolchildren during the Pledge of Allegiance. How weird is that?

re: #115 jcm

My finger and your ... uh ... never mind.

re: #113 debutaunt

It's an awesome finger melter.

It makes very neat cauterized holes in fingers.

Eyes glued to a microscope, left hand with tweezers positioning a component the size of a grain of rice, or worst case grain of pepper. Without move eyes from the scope and without moving the left reach for soldiering iron with the right hand. Miss the field of vision and drive a hot tip into the end of your thumb. Drop and scatter everything, yelping. Everyone else in the lab laughs at you.

Will not admit to how many times...

ummm, they're doing special arm exercises to develop their shoulder muscles.

no, that won't work

ummm, maybe the general asked them how high the stack of bullshit propaganda was that they had been fed

ok, let's go with that

The Gemans were defeated in ww2, but it seems the Nazis were merely dispersed.

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #49 jcm

OT:

Picked up a used Metcal soldering station at a surplus store last week, and am trying it out this AM. An hour ago I switched it off and went on to other things. Just went back and took hold of the tip to change it. YEOW! The power switch must be stuck in "ON". Now I know why it was surplused out.

*nursing my index finger*

Just as every gun should be considered as loaded, every soldering iron should be considered hot.

re: #123 HDrepub

And no power switch is to be trusted.

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

re: #11 pingjockey

re: #5 VegasRick
That is what I was thinking when the funeral coverage was on. A couple of Tomahawks full of cluster munitions.

Definitely. Spread the love.

MOAB.

re: #53 rabidsquirrel

Of course, we may all have interpreted this wrong. Perhaps it's just the daily Hizballah manicure inspection.

"Hey, Achmed, do my cuticles look okay to you?"

/not even gonna bother...

Next after manicure inspection comes the short-arm inspection. (if you have to ask what that is, you probably aren't an Army veteran).

VERY SCARY
And thanks to the Democratic congress we can't track their phone calls--make it scarier

re: #120 jcm

re: #113 debutaunt

It's an awesome finger melter.

It makes very neat cauterized holes in fingers.

Eyes glued to a microscope, left hand with tweezers positioning a component the size of a grain of rice, or worst case grain of pepper. Without move eyes from the scope and without moving the left reach for soldiering iron with the right hand. Miss the field of vision and drive a hot tip into the end of your thumb. Drop and scatter everything, yelping. Everyone else in the lab laughs at you.

Will not admit to how many times...

Perhaps that's why this doofus is crying. Poor widdle finger!

re: #124 pre-Boomer Marine brat

...or every bleeder resistor.

/the joy of surprise.

re: #6 pingjockey

Yes they do...

re: #129 LC LaWedgie

re: #124 pre-Boomer Marine brat

...or every bleeder resistor.

/the joy of surprise.

Or any capacitor. Another surprise.

IMO they should be given the same treatment as the 3rd Reich... just my opinion...

re: #88 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
I just finished reading your piece. Well said. Very well said.

JWM

re: #131 Cygnus

Yeah, I should have said "open" bleeder resistor.

/They're no fun when the 28,000 V isn't there.

re: #118 Cognito

re: #116 lawhawk

Apparently it was the original salute for American schoolchildren during the Pledge of Allegiance. How weird is that?

Another version (Right arm up, but extended to the side) was also used as the Olympic Salute. (It's shown especially well on the 1924 Paris Olympic Poster) The French Olympic Team actually gave the Olympic Salute as they were introduced at the 1936 Berlin Games. The Germans, naturally, took it as the Nazi Salute and just went bonkers.

For some reason the Olympic Committee "forgot" about their salute after World War II.

Not to worry, BHO plans tp call a meeting of Muslim leaders to let them air grievancesm
When Barack is infomed that they are upset about the WOT, he will immediatley surrender.
Oh sure there will be some beheadings + some women will be raped + executed as whores.
But hey in the long run we will be better off

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For more on the relationship between Palestinians and fascism (including the Third Reich), I'd recommend this book: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #131 Cygnus

re: #129 LC LaWedgie

re: #124 pre-Boomer Marine brat

...or every bleeder resistor.

/the joy of surprise.

Or any capacitor. Another surprise.

When I was learning electronics through my skin (i.e., self-taught) we used to tear apart old T.V. sets for the parts (this was back in the mid-60's). We used to store the CRTs in a corner of the basement so we could go to the dump and shoot 'em with 22's, 30/06's, 45's, whatever - remember, this was the 60's...

One fine Saturday morning, after a Friday lightning/thunder storm (summertime) we went down to the basement to pick up the tubes (wearing FULL protective gear, we weren't *totally* stupid!) and put 'em in the back of the truck to go to the dump and "plink picture tubes". A fun way to spend the Saturday morning. Guess what happened to my brother when his arm got too close to the aquadag lead on the CRT he was lifting up?

ZOT! Scream, drop the tube, BOOM! Pick glass out of your clothing, hair, and the walls... NOT a fun way to spend a Saturday morning. Mom had a cow about the whole thing. Hey, we *were* wearing protective clothing...

(No problem, right?!?)

JAFLW

we got your man mughniyeh. he met a really bloody appropriate end and is now in hell. and that's where you stupid "sieg heiling" morons will be seeing him soon.

This situation would not be as bad as it is if not for someone else raising their hand.

[Link: d.yimg.com...]

Bolton accused Rice of caving on terms of cease-fire

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Some retards want McCain to extend this incompetent affirmative action candidate to a VP choice.

re: #138 Just Another Four-letter Word

He was very lucky.

Had an instructor that got zapped by a CRT on a shelf - charged up as a joke. It gave him a stroke - he spent the rest of his life barely able to walk and his speech was difficult to understand.

re: #139 nyc redneck

we got your man mughniyeh. he met a really bloody appropriate end and is now in hell. and that's where you stupid "sieg heiling" morons will be seeing him soon.

They all should die very painfully and very soon.

re: #99 jcm

Mid-range soldiering equipment. Metcal, soldier units start at about $400. So your average electronic hobbist is not going to have one. We use them on or general soldier stations. For my high end rework I use a $5000 JBC soldier station.

Metcal is SOLDERING EQUIPMENT. As in two pieces of metal SOLDERED together.

Not sure what a "soldiering station" is, although the term "soldiering" in some armies means "to waste time on useless drilling and uniform inspections." In others, the term "soldiering" means to "do one's duty and accept one's fate" as in "he soldiered on throughout the campaign."

Perhaps a soldiering station is a base where glum, tired, soldiers march all day while sewing their patches on straight.

re: #143 Mardukhai

Station, as in soldier / desolder, rework. Full dedicated lab bench with the tools. I have to be able to take chips off, with out damaging them, test them, then put them back. I can take your cell phone apart to the component level and put it back together.

I am always impressed with the skill of craftsmen of all types.

My experience with solder is limited to household tasks and a few electronics projects in school -- and my jewelry hobby. (It's a Jewish and Native American guy thing. In jewelry class, everyone is a Member of the Tribe. But only the Native American guys actually wore jewelry. Most of the Jews didn't even wear rings.)

But are you saying, JMC, that it is proper to spell solder with an "i" in the trade? I'm astonished, but if so, I stand corrected.

It is really odd, Libs love YO ACCUSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEM OF BEING Nazis.
Then on the other hand it does not bother them that their pet Islamists just love the hell out of Hitler.

re: #145 Mardukhai

I am always impressed with the skill of craftsmen of all types.

My experience with solder is limited to household tasks and a few electronics projects in school -- and my jewelry hobby. (It's a Jewish and Native American guy thing. In jewelry class, everyone is a Member of the Tribe. But only the Native American guys actually wore jewelry. Most of the Jews didn't even wear rings.)

But are you saying, JMC, that it is proper to spell solder with an "i" in the trade? I'm astonished, but if so, I stand corrected.

I was completely oblivious to my inclusion of an extraneous "i". Pfft! Back to 3rd grade spelling for me.

Hitler's ally, the Grand Mufti, sent his nephew Yassar Arafat Goosestepping down the path to National Socialism.

re: #141 LC LaWedgie

re: #138 Just Another Four-letter Word

He was very lucky.

Had an instructor that got zapped by a CRT on a shelf - charged up as a joke. It gave him a stroke - he spent the rest of his life barely able to walk and his speech was difficult to understand.

We were kids, young and strong and very, very stoopid. Heck, not a year and a half later I got hit with 44K (again, from an aquadag, but a LIVE one!) and even though it hurt like heck and I scraped all the skin off of the back of my hand, I lived to tell about it.

Today? I'd be dead. For the same reason as your instructor. For the same reason. I'm a heckuva lot more careful now. For the abovementioned reasons...

JAFLW
"Too many hits in the head with a snake..."
"Be careful out there, Ryan. Some things don't react well to bullets."

Casey Sheehan Died for This?
By: Ben Johnson
Cindy Sheehan, the jet-set grieving mother, flies to Egypt to stick up for her son's murderers. More>

[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]

This made me do a little research on the Nazi - Radical Islam history and relationships. Most of the websites I looked at had the sensational feel of a conspiracy theory site. Has anyone here done any real research on this? Does these past links (if they exist) have any relation to the current neo-nazi movement in Europe right now which appears rising against the Arabs and Muslims a much as against Jews?

I will remind people that the Roman salute was used in the salute to the flag in the US in and before the 1930s.

Dear #152, old Shr_Nfr: Since that was before the Nazi's were recognized to be the scum they were, what's your point!
/end attack of the raging right wing guard dogs!

WTF: Anyone else notice that Hizbo's marching looks like a Goose Step in bouncing prancing fashion. Wonder if a good old Oops might not be in order over there; the kind of "Oops" where a missile is sent off as in "Oops what just happened?"

Does anyone know what happened to all those OSS funny pistols, you know, the kind that fired backwards? It would be nice to send a bunch of them to the Hizbo's, along with one round per piece.

re: #151 cgn38navy
"Has anyone ... done any real research on this?"

Islamic antisemitism and its Nazi roots, by historian Matthias Kuentzel
[Link: www.matthiaskuentzel.de...]

re: #151 cgn38navy
Do you have any questions to ask Dr. Kuntzel about his research on the links between Jihad, Jew-hatred, Islamism, Nazism, and the roots of 9/11? If you will be in New York City in March, you might ask him directly at one of his talks during March at two colleges in New York City.

[Link: www.spme.net...]
Matthias Kuntzel, author of the book Jihad and Jew-Hatred: Islamism, Nazism and Roots of 9/11, will be speaking at two colleges in New York City during March: Thursday March 6 at Columbia University, and Saturday March 22 at Cooper Union.

There's a couple of students in my seminars that need to see this...

The differences between these guys and the Nazis are many: they are not resourceful, they have no steel, manufacturing, or infrastructure to speak of. Their allegiance is based on a medieval doctrine as opposed to race and natinoal identity.

Regarding self, they are fanatical as opposed to realistic. Their identity is based on a "holy" book as opposed to, again, race and national identity.

They are the same in the sense their ideology is evil and, if continued, will inevitably lead to their destruction. There was only room in Germany for Nazi hate but not in the rest of the world. There is not even room for their hate in Lebanon.

#151 cgn38navy,
A while ago the History Channel had a documentary which covered the links between the Nazis, the Islamists like Haj Amin al-Husseini, and the Baath party in great detail. I cannot find its transcript or the video on the web, except for this:
Saddam and the Third Reich DVD. It has a short description of the program.

It is hardly a secret that the Nazi Germany had Muslim and Arab allies. Furthermore, Iran had similar aspirations, but they were squashed by the British in 1941. Too bad the same British allowed al-Husseini to escape prosecution as a Nazi war criminal.

re: #157 nemo
I don't think anyone is saying the Islamofascists are competent, just derivative.

re: #159 DANEgerus

re: #157 nemo
I don't think anyone is saying the Islamofascists are competent, just derivative.

I agree they are derivatives as caricatures are derivatives. heh

Last! heh

They're just point out the direction to Hell.