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1 Confuzed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:13:38am

CAIR - Council on American Islamic Radicalization should know that lying to the FBI or any other federal agents is a major felony.

As many Mos place Islamic law above the law of the land, they lie and they're allowed to lie and encouraged to lie to non-Muslims (it's called Taqiya).

CAIR - we all know you're watching and reading, so please read carefully.
MANY people out here and there will do everything in our peaceful and legal means to expose Islam and the Koran as a religion cult of hate. Before you attacked LGF today, many of us we're somewhat apathetic, now we're energized.

I suspect that hundreds, possibly thousands of Lizards and readers got an energy rush to fight the good fight (peaceful, legal, moral) to protect Charles and LGF.

As you go to bed tonight realize that many of us have donated/will be donating time, money and resources to help LGF to the best of our abilities.

PS For my part, I'm going to cut and paste hateful and violent verses of the Koran and make many prints/handouts and carry them with me ALL THE TIME.

Anyone who says RoP is peaceful gets a free laminated handout with a reward if they can prove anything wrong. This lamination will prevent the handouts from getting wet, bent, etc. so they can pass them to their friends as well.

I'm going to mention abrogation, Gabriel spending 3 decades "talking" to Mo, Mo when 51 marrying Aisha 6, personally beheading hundreds of Jews in one day, etc.

In addition, I'll probably buy more copies and multiple copies of Spencer's awesome works too. Next month, I hope to contribute to Ayaan Hirsi Ali's defense fund as your religion has put a fatwa out on her calling for her death.

PS2 If Charles has an early thread, check out my work exposing Islam. If it's not finished today or tomorrow, it'll be finished soon. I'm going to give permission to any and all to copy and reproduce without attribution to author and it will be referenced with verses in the unholy Koran.

Sweet dreams CAIR, PLEASE DON'T HAVE nightmares.

2 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:13:55am

Ding! Da new thread is here

3 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:16:29am

re: #1 Confuzed

Well, that post certainly belies your nik. I look forward in anticipation.

4 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:16:54am

Go get em Confuzed.

5 Crusader Rabbit  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:16:58am
America is a nation with many flaws, but hopes so vast that only the cowardly would refuse to acknowledge them.

— James Michener


Let's see, so that makes the Democrat party the party of cowards.

6 Confuzed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:19:15am

Top of the morning to you all at CAIR.

Working hard (busting my *ss really), to get a nice, one-page, easy-to-understand synopsis of iSlam for Infidels ready. When finished, it'll be a nice PDF file with Arabic as well, printable on all computers.

You guys messed with the wrong blog (LGF) and the wrong man (Charles Johnson) yesterday. You've made LGF stronger than ever and introduced us to more people than good money can buy and for that, thank you CAIR.

If you suffer recurrent nightmares or daymares, sorry 'bout that.

7 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:24:35am

yummy, a fresh new thread, you can still see the steam rising off of it!

8 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:25:59am

Time to resume a little P.J. O'Rourke pearls of wisdom...

There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.
P. J. O'Rourke

9 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:26:47am

re: #7 BulgarWheat

yummy, a fresh new thread, you can still see the steam rising off of it!

I thought you see steam rising off a CAIR spokesman on a chilly morning.

10 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:27:13am

When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.
P. J. O'Rourke

Wonder how that's going to play out with socialized medicine. Not too well I imagine.

11 Alouette  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:27:36am

Good morning Lizards, Zaharaim Tov Lizardim (1:30PM here in sunny Galilee!)

12 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:27:45am

re: #9 Tigger2005

No, those are dog turds, uh, never mind.

13 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:29:00am

/looks around for fruitcup but grabs the cherrys soaked in vodka

14 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:30:24am

re: #13 JimmyTheClaw

Fruit cup is that away ↓.

15 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:31:15am

Good morning, Lizards.

17 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:32:05am

Morning goddess. I think everybody is lurking this morning.

18 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:32:06am

Islam Means ‘Peace’

The Myth:

Lesser educated Muslims sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic.

The Truth:

The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no controversy about this among Islamic scholars.

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.

In truth, the Qur’an not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.

19 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:32:09am

re: #11 Alouette

Good morning Lizards, Zaharaim Tov Lizardim (1:30PM here in sunny Galilee!)

Mazal Tov! Aren't you going to post the rach hanimol's name?

20 Alouette  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:35:33am

re: #19 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #11 Alouette


Good morning Lizards, Zaharaim Tov Lizardim (1:30PM here in sunny Galilee!)

Mazal Tov! Aren't you going to post the rach hanimol's name?

Shmuel (Samuel, Sammy, Shmulik, Shmuli)

21 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:39:21am

Morning all
Cambio (CHANGE!) : the one word Cubans need to hear

Meanwhile, the Obama delusion continues.

Obama pledges not to raise the retirement age and to "protect Social Security benefits for current and future beneficiaries." This isn't "change"; it's sanctification of the status quo
22 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:41:36am

re: #20 Alouette

re: #19 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #11 Alouette


Good morning Lizards, Zaharaim Tov Lizardim (1:30PM here in sunny Galilee!)


Mazal Tov! Aren't you going to post the rach hanimol's name?

Shmuel (Samuel, Sammy, Shmulik, Shmuli)

She'yizkoo horav l'gadlo l'Torah, l'Chupa u'l'ma'asim tovim.

/I was expecting Mendy :-)

23 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:42:41am

Goddess, Bulgar wheat, Carl, greetings from a cold (31) and maybe soon to be snowy DC area!

24 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:45:02am

re: #23 Jim in Virginia
Gonna be fun on the Beltway today huh?

25 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:45:05am

re: #23 Jim in Virginia

Goddess, Bulgar wheat, Carl, greetings from a cold (31) and maybe soon to be snowy DC area!

Good Morning Jim. Don't know if you saw but I gave you a hat tip last night.

26 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:46:40am

The discussion about posts advocating violence got me thinking. I have been concerned, ever since I got trashed for suggesting that Filipinos should respond with overwhelming force to any violence or murder emanating from the proposed "Muslims-only" state in their midst, that we are in the process of turning violence into an unacceptable option. It's nice that we've become so civilized that we don't turn to violence and killing to achieve goals as we did in the past, but on the other hand, one wonders if we'd been so squeamish then if we'd still be British subjects or if we'd be two separate countries or if we'd all be speaking German and Japanese.

But the more I thought about it the more I realized that at this point, we do not need violence to fight back against CAIR, against the building of "maxi-mosques" and the broadcasting of the Muslim call to prayer, and so on. We need education. We need to wake people up. We need a concerted campaign to inform politicians on all levels about CAIR's unsavory qualities, about the spread of Wahhabist literature and radical attitudes in mosques, etc. We need to relentlessly point out where the hate, the intolerance, the implicit support of violence is really coming from. We need to get off our asses and be a lot more energetic and enthusiastic than we have been up to now at prosecuting the non-military side of this struggle. The government is not doing it effectively, so We the People must.

27 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:47:08am

Beelzebufo: the ancient Devil Frog

link credit to Tigerhawk

28 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:48:43am

Thanks, Carl, I didn't see that. Work has been interfering with my internet time far too much lately.

29 infidel4ever  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:49:06am

Repost from the thread that just died:

Bad news from Netherlandistan:

Fortis bank has apparently caved to the Religion of Eternal Whining and has put an abrupt end to the career of Knorbert the Piggy bank. Another piggy bank character bites the dust because of the Muslims and their cultural jihad.

According to the Dutch newspaper Telegraaf:

Fortis bans "unclean" piglet.

Fortis customers who open a EuroKids account for their children will no longer receive the special Knorbert piggy bank. Fortis' explanation is that: "Knorbert falls short of the requirements of the multicultural society."

Pigs are considered unclean by Jews and Muslims. Fortis has also ended all internet games and cartoons that feature Knorbert as the main character and were thought up years ago. According to a spokesperson there have been "a number of reactions to the pig" and they are working on a new gift "that is fun for children of every persuasion." In the meantime the bank offers a children's encyclopedia as a gift.


[Link: [Link: www.telegraaf.nl...]...]
(in Dutch, but with a picture of the latest piggy victim of Islam)

30 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:49:36am

Whoops ... edited in brackets below.

re: #26 Tigger2005

The discussion about posts advocating violence got me thinking. I have been concerned, ever since I got trashed for suggesting that Filipinos should respond with overwhelming force to any violence or murder emanating from the proposed "Muslims-only" state in their midst, that we are in the process of turning violence into an unacceptable option. It's nice that we've become so civilized that we don't turn to violence and killing to achieve goals as [readily as] we did in the past, but on the other hand, one wonders if we'd been so squeamish then if we'd still be British subjects or if we'd be two separate countries or if we'd all be speaking German and Japanese.

But the more I thought about it the more I realized that at this point, we do not need violence to fight back against CAIR, against the building of "maxi-mosques" and the broadcasting of the Muslim call to prayer, and so on. We need education. We need to wake people up. We need a concerted campaign to inform politicians on all levels about CAIR's unsavory qualities, about the spread of Wahhabist literature and radical attitudes in mosques, etc. We need to relentlessly point out where the hate, the intolerance, the implicit support of violence is really coming from. We need to get off our asses and be a lot more energetic and enthusiastic than we have been up to now at prosecuting the non-military side of this struggle. The government is not doing it effectively, so We the People must.

31 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:51:01am

Linky no worky.

re: #29 infidel4ever

Repost from the thread that just died:

Bad news from Netherlandistan:

Fortis bank has apparently caved to the Religion of Eternal Whining and has put an abrupt end to the career of Knorbert the Piggy bank. Another piggy bank character bites the dust because of the Muslims and their cultural jihad.

According to the Dutch newspaper Telegraaf:

Fortis bans "unclean" piglet.

Fortis customers who open a EuroKids account for their children will no longer receive the special Knorbert piggy bank. Fortis' explanation is that: "Knorbert falls short of the requirements of the multicultural society."

Pigs are considered unclean by Jews and Muslims. Fortis has also ended all internet games and cartoons that feature Knorbert as the main character and were thought up years ago. According to a spokesperson there have been "a number of reactions to the pig" and they are working on a new gift "that is fun for children of every persuasion." In the meantime the bank offers a children's encyclopedia as a gift.


[Link: [Link: www.telegraaf.nl...]...]
(in Dutch, but with a picture of the latest piggy victim of Islam)

32 chubby vegan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:52:18am

Hardball on MSNBC mistakenly showed a picture of Osama Bin Laden in a "teaser" about an upcoming story about Obama.

DRINK!

I still think this should be a drinking game. Entire country in rehab by Nov.

33 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:53:34am

Re: Post # 29

When will Porky Pig say "th-th-th-th-that's all folks!" and mean it?

34 chubby vegan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:54:18am

re: #31 Tigger2005

Catering to the wrong folks if you ask me. Hell, Muslims don't even take out loans!

35 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:54:45am

re: #33 Tigger2005

Re: Post # 29

When will Porky Pig say "th-th-th-th-that's all folks!" and mean it?

After all, Porky is not only offensive to Muslims, but to stutterers as well.

36 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:55:01am

re: #32 chubby vegan

Hardball on MSNBC mistakenly showed a picture of Osama Bin Laden in a "teaser" about an upcoming story about Obama.

DRINK!

I still think this should be a drinking game. Entire country in rehab by Nov.

Did anyone ever continue doing Gilda Radner's Emily Litella on Saturday Night Live after Gilda passed away? This would be right up her alley.

37 allah this  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:56:30am

Good morning, Dougie!

How's about a nice picture of mobombhead to start the day, huh?

/wishing you and the other unindicted co-conspirators a pleasant seethe.

38 chubby vegan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:58:43am

re: #37 allah this

Piss Be Upon Him
Pigs Be Upon Him
PitBulls Be Upon Him
Puss Be Upon Him

39 Carridine  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 3:58:56am

CAIR: You want to honor Muhammad? Then turn your hearts and minds TOWARD the Qaim and al-Mahdi! When al-Qaim came May 23, 1844/1260 AH every Muslim had a chance to turn toward Him, even when Muslim mullahs and imams KILLED Him July 9, 1850!

Now that al-Mahdi has come in The Glory of the Father, and suffered the same painful injustice at the hands of Muslims claiming to love God, it is time for YOU, CAIR, to start leading people TOWARD the Bab and Baha'u'llah!

This will bring honor to Muslims who respect Muhammad!

40 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:02:18am

Morning Lizardia. 30 degrees in Chambodia -- somebody turned off the heat last night so it's colder that Hillary's ___ in here.

Had a big dinner with a job candidate last night, but something I ate didn't agree with me and I spent most of the night dealing with that. Feel like crap this morning.

41 Steffan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:02:38am

Grüss Gott!

Personally, I'd rather go with Abraham Lincoln and call this country the "Last, Best Hope For Mankind."

Remind me, if you will, what Joshua L. Chamberlain said about this our country. It'll trump anything the moonbats will ever say on the subject.

:)

-- Steffan

42 trailortrash  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:03:42am

/waves :)
Mornin lizards, been at nags head with the family. my son and i vistied Kitty Hawk NC and really had a great time, pics here :)

CAIR - we all know you're watching and reading, Fuck You :)

43 Karridine  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:03:54am

re: #40 Lucius Septimius

heart?

44 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:05:00am

Well we are all on a CAIR bash, I wonder if the lizard nation out numbers their membership tally.

/food for thought.

45 allah this  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:06:23am

re: #38 chubby vegan

Pork Bellies Unravel Hitherto!

46 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:09:17am

re: #44 BlueCanuck

but they have 6,000,000,000 members. how could we ever withstand that?

47 infidel4ever  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:09:45am

re: #31 Tigger2005

Linky no worky.

re: #29 infidel4ever


Repost from the thread that just died:

Bad news from Netherlandistan:

Fortis bank has apparently caved to the Religion of Eternal Whining and has put an abrupt end to the career of Knorbert the Piggy bank. Another piggy bank character bites the dust because of the Muslims and their cultural jihad.

According to the Dutch newspaper Telegraaf:

Fortis bans "unclean" piglet.

Fortis customers who open a EuroKids account for their children will no longer receive the special Knorbert piggy bank. Fortis' explanation is that: "Knorbert falls short of the requirements of the multicultural society."

Pigs are considered unclean by Jews and Muslims. Fortis has also ended all internet games and cartoons that feature Knorbert as the main character and were thought up years ago. According to a spokesperson there have been "a number of reactions to the pig" and they are working on a new gift "that is fun for children of every persuasion." In the meantime the bank offers a children's encyclopedia as a gift.

[Link: www.telegraaf.nl...]

(in Dutch, but with a picture of the latest piggy victim of Islam)

Now it should work properly. Sorry, something went wrong during the copy/paste from the other thread, I suppose.

48 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:09:55am

re: #44 BlueCanuck

About ten to one I believe.

49 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:11:41am

This is cute (from BotW)

The New York Times reports that Democratic "party elders" are concerned that the presidential nomination "could be decided by a group of 795 party insiders known as superdelegates" rather than by voters and are "weighing whether and how to intervene":


The issues party leaders are grappling with, they said, include how to avoid the perception of a back-room deal that thwarts the will of millions of voters who have cast ballots in primaries and caucuses. That perception could cripple the eventual Democratic nominee's chances of winning the presidency in November, they said.

So they're trying to strike a backroom deal in order to avoid the perception of a backroom deal? Good luck with that.

50 opnion  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:14:04am

To all of you peaceful Muslims at CAIR.You will not lay a glove on the Lizard King. You will not stop discourse on this blog.
Actually I do believe that we will mock you.'
OK I will start. Why do Muslim guys grow facial hair?
So that they can be like their mothers.
Narf, narf.Go screw yourself

51 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:14:26am

James Taranto parses the Reuter's report on Castro's departure.


Fidel Castro, who died in 2006 (give or take three years), "said on Tuesday that he will not return to lead the country as president," Reuters reports.

What kind of leader was Castro exactly? Reuters doesn't say, but it offers us some clues:

[Castro is] retiring as head of state 49 years after he seized power in an armed revolution.

Seized power in an armed revolution, check. Then there's this:


"To my dear compatriots, who gave me the immense honor in recent days of electing me a member of parliament . . . I communicate to you that I will not aspire to or accept--I repeat not aspire to or accept--the positions of President of Council of State and Commander in Chief," Castro said in the statement published on the Web site of the Communist Party's Granma newspaper.


Hmm, Communist Party. That may be relevant. The story goes on:


A charismatic leader famous for his long speeches delivered in his green military fatigues, Castro is admired in the Third World for standing up to the United States but considered by his opponents a tyrant who suppressed freedom.

So he was a "charismatic leader" and was considered "a tyrant who suppressed freedom"--but only by his opponents. In contrast:

The bearded leader who took power in an armed uprising against a U.S.-backed dictator in 1959 had temporarily ceded power to his younger brother after he underwent emergency surgery to stop intestinal bleeding in mid-2006.

So the fellow Castro replaced was definitely a dictator. As for Castro himself, who knows?

And it isn't even just Reuters. The Associated Press calls Castro an "unchallenged leader," while the New York Times characterizes him as "one of the most all-powerful communist heads of state in the world." (That fellow in North Korea--he's all-powerful, but not as all-powerful as Castro.)

The free press in the free world is bending over backward not to call Castro what he really was: a communist dictator. Why? Perhaps this is an artifact of the Watergate-era notion of the "adversarial press." Journalists see themselves as standing in opposition to their own government, and since Castro was an enemy of the U.S. that put him on the same side. The enemy of my country is my friend, or at least my "unchallenged leader."

52 Karridine  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:20:11am

re: #51 Lucius Septimius


Maybe if we don't CALL CASTRO a 'Communist dictator' people won't notice that he dictated policy to Communist peasants in Cuba for 49 years!

/riiight!

53 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:21:21am

Y'know, multiculturalists don't even understand multiculturalism. Either that, or they don't really believe in it.

It seems very clear to me: a multicultural society is one in which (theoretically) very different cultures live peacefully side by side, respecting (or at least tolerating) their differences--adopting a "live and let live" attitude.

The true "multiculturalist" approach to the Knorbert the Piggy Bank issue, then, would be to tell the complainers, "Very well, if pigs are offensive in your culture, we will offer YOUR children who open an account with us something else, but we will continue to offer the piggy bank to those who do NOT find pigs offensive."

Just as the true multiculturalist approach to the piggy bank figurines on desks controversy would have been, "Nobody is forcing YOU to keep a pig figurine on YOUR desk. Just don't look at the pig figurine on your office-mate's desk."

Instead we are seeing a majority culture bow to the endless demands of a (so far) minority culture, and if this continues, there will eventually be not a multicultural, but a monocultural (Islamic) society.


re: #29 infidel4ever

Repost from the thread that just died:

Bad news from Netherlandistan:

Fortis bank has apparently caved to the Religion of Eternal Whining and has put an abrupt end to the career of Knorbert the Piggy bank. Another piggy bank character bites the dust because of the Muslims and their cultural jihad.

According to the Dutch newspaper Telegraaf:

Fortis bans "unclean" piglet.

Fortis customers who open a EuroKids account for their children will no longer receive the special Knorbert piggy bank. Fortis' explanation is that: "Knorbert falls short of the requirements of the multicultural society."

Pigs are considered unclean by Jews and Muslims. Fortis has also ended all internet games and cartoons that feature Knorbert as the main character and were thought up years ago. According to a spokesperson there have been "a number of reactions to the pig" and they are working on a new gift "that is fun for children of every persuasion." In the meantime the bank offers a children's encyclopedia as a gift.


[Link: [Link: www.telegraaf.nl...]...]
(in Dutch, but with a picture of the latest piggy victim of Islam)

54 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:23:11am
Magnitude-7.5 Earthquake Rocks Western Indonesia; 3 Dead, 25 Injured

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

55 joncelli  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:25:59am

re: #27 Jim in Virginia

Bwahahaha! I'm going to steal that picture for an avatar! Joncelli Beezelbufo!

56 AlwaysOnWatch  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:26:27am

James Michener's Caravans, written decades ago, exposes Islamic misogyny and can reach readers who won't listen to conservative sources. Specifically, I've found that some liberals who read Caravans discover on their own what I've been telling them for years.

It has been said that Michener was a multiculturalist. If so, he was a muliticulturalist in the old sense of the word.

57 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:27:30am
Ahmadinejad: Zionist regime - a dirty microbe


Iranian President speaks at southern city of Bandar Abbas, says Israel is a 'wild animal unleashed by West to control region's nations'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

58 ornery elephant  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:28:48am

Here we go again...

Israel's Netanyahu: 'Olmert Is Going To Cede Jerusalem'

Likud leader and chairman of the opposition MK Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday that the Olmert government is taking measures to divide Jerusalem, and urged the key Shas party to bolt the coalition and topple the government in order "to save Jerusalem."

59 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:29:49am

10 in a row...Hill-Billy tears... [Link: www.cnn.com...]

60 Confuzed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:30:11am

Fellow Lizards and our beloved friends at CAIR,

Please give me a few days to make a good PDF file about iSlam that can be spread worldwide and printed on any computer. Can also be attached to emails and opened. Good thing about PDF is it's platform independent,
font-embedded, self-extracting/opening and requires no purchased software, i.e, should work on most computers worldwide.

In my haste, I underestimated the time it would take to do a GOOD one-page document. I'm sorry. I'm looking at 15-20 hours with English/Arabic and graphics all embedded. Even if it takes 100 hours, it's 100 hours that I'll gladly do since LGF and Charles were unfairly targeted.

I don't know how to give it to anyone yet, as it's a PDF file and I don't have a site of my own.

Comments and suggestions are welcome and encouraged. Criticism, either constructive or destructive is welcome. CAIR, I also look forward to your comments/suggestions/criticisms as well.

I already anticipate the lame, "it's impossible to understand the Koran without understanding Arabic" statement. If that's true, since the majority of Muslims worldwide can't understand (read/write/speak - but merely recite and take as truth the translations) Arabic, they can't understand the koran either.

Loves and Kisses to CAIR from your friends at LGF.

LGF AKBAR
CHARLES AKBAR

/Bulgar Wheat - sorry, the steam is still coming from my ears. If I don't have a PDF file in a couple of days, it's because I "kicked it" from a heart attack.

61 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:33:45am

re: #60 Confuzed

Islam=Murder,child abuse,rape,brutal treatment of women,slavery...Islam...less than a page.

62 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:35:25am
David Horowitz will not be appearing at the annual meeting of the National Communication Association, which is expected to draw thousands of professors to San Diego in November. On that fact, everyone is in agreement. But whether he isn’t participating because he was making unreasonable demands, because he was never invited in the first place, because the association gave in to members who didn’t want to give him a forum, or some combination of factors is the subject of much disagreement.

Further, the fact that the association almost had a debate between Horowitz and Michael Bérubé — and now plans to have the debate, but subbing in Anne Neal for Horowitz — has prompted a dispute about to whom a scholarly group should provide a platform.

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

63 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:36:06am
64 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:36:14am

Well lizards I am off, see you all tomorrow.

65 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:37:08am
TEN IN A ROW...
Wisconsin Exit Polls:
Obama Won:
Women (51-49)
All age groups under 65
All education levels
All regions of the state -- urban, suburban and rural
Voters without college degrees (50-48)
Democrats (50-49)
Whites (53-46)
White men (59-38)
Voters who decided in the last week (58-42)

Won or tied voters of all income levels
Tied among white women
Tied among union members
Tied among union households

Vice-President Hill...Bill-nothing [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

66 infidel4ever  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:38:20am

# 47 Update: Fortis bans "unclean" piglet.

Apparently Fortis is getting a lot of negative reactions and have moved into damage control mode.

According to Fortis spokesperson Marianne Honkoop the report in the Telegraaf is not correct. "We are not slaughtering Knorbert", says Honkoop in Quote. "The real story is a bit more nuanced. Knorbert is a premium that has reached the end of its life cycle."

[Link: www.quotenet.nl...] (in Dutch)

Yeah, right.

One of the many reader's comments in the Telegraaf:

I have just called Fortis to make an appointment for tomorrow.
"May I ask why you want to make an appointment?"
"Of course, it has to do with my accounts and a piglet."
"Aha, so you want to cancel your accounts tomorrow?"
"That is correct!"
Leo, 3huis, Velsen 12:32 | 20.02.08

Yeah, even the Dutch are learning to vote with their feet!

67 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:40:54am

Change!

68 chubby vegan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:41:29am

re: #66 infidel4ever

" I have just called Fortis to make an appointment for tomorrow.
"May I ask why you want to make an appointment?"
"Of course, it has to do with my accounts and a piglet."
"Aha, so you want to cancel your accounts tomorrow?"
"That is correct!"
Leo, 3huis, Velsen 12:32 | 20.02.08

Yeah, even the Dutch are learning to vote with their feet!"

Went for years without giving the Dutch a second thought. Really starting the like the Dutch.

69 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:42:48am
Nearly 30,000 petition signatures are being delivered to officials in Montgomery County, Md., demanding that a public vote be held to allow citizens to decide on a law providing special rights to people with "gender identity" issues, including apparently the choice of whether to use men's or women's locker rooms and other public facilities

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

70 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:42:59am

re: #61 storagemanager

Don't forget They hate our Avatars.

That's enough reason for me.

71 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:44:09am

re: #6 Confuzed

try Islam 101 at jihad watch

72 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:44:48am

Good Morning Lizards.

To the CAIR lurkers out there, you will lose this war.

Note to Michelle Obama: There has not been a day of my life that I have not been "really" proud of my country. I am proud of every man and woman who served this country to defend your right to not be "really proud" of it. May you grow up some day and understand what a child you truly are.

73 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:45:27am

With Castro stepping down (finally) and Barack Hussein Obama clearly opening up a lead on the clinton political machine, I wonder when he's going to grow the beard and begin wearing fatigues?

Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Changes...

74 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:46:43am
In its statement, the 5,000-strong religious police accused Yara of violating both the law and Islamic tenets by flying unaccompanied from Jeddah to Riyadh and sitting alone with an unrelated man in a public place in a section reserved for families.

The religious police said its members went to the coffee shop after receiving information that the woman did not have her head covered and was wearing make-up and making ‘suspicious gestures’ while in the man’s company

Hussy! [Link: www.khaleejtimes.com...]

75 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:48:16am

re: #16 Carl in Jerusalem

Brits feared 'armed confrontation' with El Al security guards

I read that article in the Daily Mail yesterday with some interest Carl. I know it's only speculation, but it seems that the British authorities had little enthusiasm in actually arresting him and were happy that he stayed on the plane.

I also note with interest that the pratt who raised the arrest warrant, Daniel Machover, was absolutely livid and threatening all sorts of investigations as to why our authorities 'failed' to arrest him and how the news of his impending arrest was 'leaked.'

Seems like our lot went through the motions and were happy to find an excuse not to carry out the warrant. I think this Machover character really got on the tits of the authorities with his hyperventilating.

I remember a Doron Novan from way back. Really nice bloke... Absolutely hard as nails.

76 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:49:13am

re: #73 BulgarWheat

With Castro stepping down (finally) and Barack Hussein Obama clearly opening up a lead on the clinton political machine, I wonder when he's going to grow the beard and begin wearing fatigues?

Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che- Changes...

Is Obama still talking? That speech last night was nearly as long as Fidel's rambles.

77 lindamarie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:50:23am

re: #60 Confuzed

Evening Lizards - it was a pleasant C in Kabul today.
Confuzed - it will take more then a page - but don't make it too long the human attention span is short Just hitting the high points can take 10 pages. Maybe, if the layout is right you can go 2 pages

78 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:53:22am

re: #75 Wishbone

re: #16 Carl in Jerusalem

Brits feared 'armed confrontation' with El Al security guards

I read that article in the Daily Mail yesterday with some interest Carl. I know it's only speculation, but it seems that the British authorities had little enthusiasm in actually arresting him and were happy that he stayed on the plane.

I also note with interest that the pratt who raised the arrest warrant, Daniel Machover, was absolutely livid and threatening all sorts of investigations as to why our authorities 'failed' to arrest him and how the news of his impending arrest was 'leaked.'

Seems like our lot went through the motions and were happy to find an excuse not to carry out the warrant. I think this Machover character really got on the tits of the authorities with his hyperventilating.

I remember a Doron Novan from way back. Really nice bloke... Absolutely hard as nails.

You may well be right.

In case you didn't realize it, Machover is an Israeli living in England.

By the way, my post is a BBC video - not the article from the Daily Mail.

79 lindamarie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:53:35am

10 C I meant

80 infidel4ever  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:54:41am

re: #68 chubby vegan

re: #66 infidel4ever

" I have just called Fortis to make an appointment for tomorrow.
"May I ask why you want to make an appointment?"
"Of course, it has to do with my accounts and a piglet."
"Aha, so you want to cancel your accounts tomorrow?"
"That is correct!"
Leo, 3huis, Velsen 12:32 | 20.02.08

Yeah, even the Dutch are learning to vote with their feet!"

Went for years without giving the Dutch a second thought. Really starting the like the Dutch.

And apparently our dhimmified government now has only a 13% approval rate, a historic low. The Dutch are waking up. Let's see what happens after the Wilders blockbuster... :))

81 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:54:41am

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

re: #73 BulgarWheat

With Castro stepping down (finally) and Barack Hussein Obama clearly opening up a lead on the clinton political machine, I wonder when he's going to grow the beard and begin wearing fatigues?

Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che- Changes...

Is Obama still talking? That speech last night was nearly as long as Fidel's rambles.

Perhaps they both went to the Hassan Nasrallah school of public speaking™.

82 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:55:10am

re: #81 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

re: #73 BulgarWheat

With Castro stepping down (finally) and Barack Hussein Obama clearly opening up a lead on the clinton political machine, I wonder when he's going to grow the beard and begin wearing fatigues?

Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che-Che- Changes...

Is Obama still talking? That speech last night was nearly as long as Fidel's rambles.

Perhaps they both went to the Hassan Nasrallah school of public speaking™.

/Fixed linky

83 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:55:17am

re: #77 lindamarie

re: #60 Confuzed

Evening Lizards - it was a pleasant C in Kabul today.
Confuzed - it will take more then a page - but don't make it too long the human attention span is short Just hitting the high points can take 10 pages. Maybe, if the layout is right you can go 2 pages

No...it won't..watch this...Mohammad said Islam should rule the world and use..Rape,murder,beating of women,child abuse,child rape and call it marriage..Kill all the Jews..kill all the Christians...kill everyone who is not Muslim.

84 lindamarie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:58:08am

re: #83 storagemanager

Yes he did. But people are septics. You have to back up each with a Koran verse. A short to the point one. Or they will think you are exaggerating. Pictures are good too. Keeps attention.

85 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:58:19am

Off to work. Have a great day, ya'll.

86 Confuzed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:58:26am

re: #71 hayseed

re: #77 lindamarie

Hayseed (love that name) and lindamarie - thank you very much.
Yes, the hardest part is making it as simple to understand WITH proper layout and diagrams so that people can learn more on their own.

Most sites out there have too much information and John/Jane Q. Citizen doesn't have the time or ability to understand at once.

I'm now using mind-mapping software, graphic software, DTP and even Word to get this down. You're exactly right Lindamarie, 1 page might mean back/front but not sure yet. It'd be interesting to have a "flip the paper over" to see the proper answer format.

Thanks guys for you help, I appreciate it.

87 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:58:45am

re: #76 JammieWearingFool


Is Obama still talking? That speech last night was nearly as long as Fidel's rambles.

I thought I was listening to Castro for a while. Here's what I heard:

1. "free" healthcare (read- raise taxes on companies and people making more than $75,000).

2. End the Bush tax cuts and redistribute income to special interest groups (read- raise taxes on companies and people making more than $75,000).

3. Lower gas prices (read- punish oil companies for exisiting).

4. End the war in 1 year (read-declare defeat, retreat and surrender).

5. Improve international relations (read- apologize to the world for defending ourselves and abandon Israel)

6. Improve public education (read - raise taxes and more multiculturalism).

That was about all I could stomach.

88 AuldTrafford  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 4:59:49am

re: #75 Wishbone

Congratulations to the Reds on a stunning 2-0 victory over Inter last night! Also saw the Roma-Madrid game; interesting, the commentators were calling an easy victory for Madrid, just before van Nistelrooy's goal was called back. Gunners today in a very interesting game, and Man U should win easily in Lyon.

Didn't see it, but sounds like Chelsea ran into a bit of a buzz saw in Greece (0-0 draw).

"It's about to get interesting ...!"

89 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:01:10am
A 16-year-old schoolgirl was found hanged yesterday, bringing to 17 the number of apparent suicides among youngsters in the Bridgend area since the beginning of last year.

South Wales police said Jenna Parry was discovered at 7.45am in woods near her home at Cefn Cribbwr, a small village north-west of the town.

Her death is the latest in a spate which has made Bridgend the focus of national scrutiny and the centre of a police investigation to discover possible links between the suicides. Speculation originally centred on the internet and social networking websites but police and grieving relatives moved yesterday to quash rumours of such links.

[Link: www.religionnewsblog.com...]

90 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:03:09am

As long as you have leaders of the free world...calling Islam peace and noble...it will be hard to teach otherwise...our leaders lie to the people...who eat it up.

91 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:03:25am

re: #78 Carl in Jerusalem

Yeah, I had a look at the Wikipedia page on Daniel Machover, which mentions that his father was one of the original founders of Matzpen. Seems that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, in his case.

92 LindaMarie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:04:17am

re: #86 Confuzed

I have pictures of women huddling in burkas. Be glad to provide one for you to use and then you don't have a copyright issue

93 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:05:39am
House Democrats have decided that their greatest duty is to the enemies of this country. They have performed magnificently in this role by refusing to grant immunity to telecommunications companies that provide information to government agencies tasked with preventing terrorist acts. By withholding their votes from the legislation that would have renewed the Protect America Act, House Democrats have discouraged these companies from cooperation by leaving them open to law suits by the very terrorists who plot the murders of innocent Americans.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke for the Democrats when she denied that national security was the issue, and accused the GOP of wanting "to protect the financial interests of telecommunications companies and avoid judicial scrutiny of their warrantless wiretapping program." The Democrats, on the other hand, are protecting the interests of lawyers, terrorist-enabling lawsuits, and the rights of our enemies to plot our destruction in inviolable secrecy.

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

94 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:08:56am
95 LindaMarie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:09:57am

re: #94 BabbaZee


Hi BabbaZee

96 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:11:14am

Change!...we need change people!...say it...change...sing it ...change...go to the bank and get it!...change!

97 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:11:16am

re: #18 Dustyvet

Islam Means ‘Peace’

The Myth:

Lesser educated Muslims sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic.

The Truth:

The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no controversy about this among Islamic scholars.

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.

In truth, the Qur’an not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.

As an American by birth and a Texan by the Grace of God, I bow before NO man. Never have, never will. And the RoP can kiss my lilly white ass.

98 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:11:29am
99 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:11:41am

re: #88 AuldTrafford

Cheers mate!

That was a superb game we played there last night, couldn't have asked for more. I can't remember how many pundits have warned that our Euro form is something to be respected, regardless of how our domestic game is playing out, but what better example than that eh?

I'm torn as to which game to watch tonight. Your lot need to be careful of Lyon but, if they keep up their form of late, you shouldn't have too many worries. The Arsenal / Milan clash though, is a real test of both sides, so it may be that game that turns out to be the spectacular.

I didn't see any of the Chelsea game either and somehow I don't see them getting beat at Stamford Bridge, but it will only take them going one goal down there and it could all get turned on its head.

"It's about to get interesting ...!"

Oh yes... Yes indeedy!...hehehe

100 Bubbaman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:12:00am

re: #87 3 wood

re: #76 JammieWearingFool


Is Obama still talking? That speech last night was nearly as long as Fidel's rambles.

I thought I was listening to Castro for a while. Here's what I heard:

1. "free" healthcare (read- raise taxes on companies and people making more than $75,000).

2. End the Bush tax cuts and redistribute income to special interest groups (read- raise taxes on companies and people making more than $75,000).

3. Lower gas prices (read- punish oil companies for exisiting).

4. End the war in 1 year (read-declare defeat, retreat and surrender).

5. Improve international relations (read- apologize to the world for defending ourselves and abandon Israel)

6. Improve public education (read - raise taxes and more multiculturalism).

That was about all I could stomach.

So I wasn't the only one who read through this blithering socialist. His agenda continues to sound more and more like Che' - hey isn't he prominently displayed in the Houston office?

What's even scarier is that people were actually applauding this nut-job (though I didn't see anyone passing out).

101 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:12:36am

re: #97 squirrelguy

As an American by birth and a Texan by the Grace of God, I bow before NO man. Never have, never will. And the RoP can kiss my lilly white ass.

Huzzah to your lily white ass!

102 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:14:09am

re: #96 storagemanager

CHANGE!

103 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:14:55am

re: #94 BabbaZee

Babba...change is coming, I wish we'd all been ready

104 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:14:58am

Who the hell is Lilly?...and why call call out her name?

105 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:16:52am

Obama’s Communist Mentor


In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.

Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.

Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency. In the latest Real Clear Politics poll average, Obama beats Republican John McCain by almost four percentage points.


[SNIP]

106 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:17:02am

re: #101 BabbaZee

Lily white?... Pfah!... That's nothing!

As Billy Connolly put it, we Brits, owing to our North Sea weather, are naturally a shade of blue...

It takes us a fortnight in the sun just to get white!

107 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:17:20am
Aha! So the Chupacabra is an Arabic rabbit, or an Arabbit.

...Returning to the show’s favoured theme of explaining Hamas’s goal of an Islamic state in all the area now divided between Israel and the Palestinians, the rabbit told viewers they would recover Jerusalem’s holiest Muslim site and cities in Israel: “We will liberate al-Aqsa mosque from the Zionists’ filth,” said Assud, whose name means Little Lion...

Aha! So el Chupacabra is a cross between an Arabbit and a lion. Indeed, there is much scientific speculation on what kind of cross-breed the Chupacabra is — whether it’s a cross between a dog and a pig, or a rabbit and a dog, but apparently the type indigenous to the Palestinian territories is a cross between a rabbit, a lion and an Arab. Here are some varying artistic representations of chupacabras, as well as photos of some suspected chupacabras, which suck the blood of pets and livestock, much like Assud does to Jews, considered by the natives to be livestock

[Link: politicalmavens.com...]

108 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:17:33am

re: #103 hayseed

{hayseed}
You had showed me that band first, I really like them...

109 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:18:05am

re: #107 storagemanager

Aha! So the Chupacabra is an Arabic rabbit, or an Arabbit.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

110 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:18:28am

re: #106 Wishbone

Blue's rally against Islam?

111 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:19:48am

re: #106 Wishbone

AHhhaaa!

Not so white, but very blue!

112 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:21:22am
113 AuldTrafford  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:21:32am

re: #99 Wishbone

Yes, the Arsenal v Milan game could easily have been the Final this year. ESPN offers both that and Celtic v. Barca; won't be able to watch live today, but have both set to record. Pretty sure Barca will go through, but they'll have to be careful in Glasgow (doubt they'll take many chances today). Gotta pay extra to see Man U (subscribe to Deportes, Spanish language station, or ppv) , but I imagine Leg 2 will be on the free side.

Your lot should be allright hosting 'Boro this weekend. Man U has to travel to Newcastle - they'll have to be careful there, but ought to win.

Well, just driving by, and have to get going, but wanted to congratulate the Reds - very exciting fare.

114 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:21:40am
World share prices tumbled on Wednesday on renewed worries about a global economic slowdown as the price of crude oil surged to a record high point above 100 dollars a barrel, dealers said.
Japan's stock market closed down 3.25 percent after New York crude had reached an all-time peak of 100.10 dollars a barrel on Tuesday on speculation that OPEC oil producers planned to cut output at a meeting in Vienna next month.

Rocketing oil prices weigh on companies' costs and push up inflation, which in turn hurts economic growth.

British Airways said on Wednesday it planned to raise the fuel surcharges it places on air fares, citing high oil prices.

Approaching the half-way point in European stock market trading, London's FTSE 100 index of leading shares showed a loss of 1.30 percent. Frankfurt was down by 1.14 percent and Paris stood 1.01-percent lower.

"Players are worrying about the further impact of oil over 100 dollars on the economy," said a trader at a European brokerage who requested anonymity.

On Wednesday oil prices fell on profit-taking but remained close to 100 dollars a barrel.

Concerns that high crude futures could stoke inflation and stall expected interest rate cuts in the ailing US economy helped send Australian stocks down more than two percent by the close.

"There's a great deal of uncertainty out there," said Sydney-based Andrew Sekely, an equity analyst at Intersuisse.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

115 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:22:59am

re: #101 BabbaZee

re: #97 squirrelguy

As an American by birth and a Texan by the Grace of God, I bow before NO man. Never have, never will. And the RoP can kiss my lilly white ass.

Huzzah to your lily white ass!

re: #101 BabbaZee

re: #97 squirrelguy

As an American by birth and a Texan by the Grace of God, I bow before NO man. Never have, never will. And the RoP can kiss my lilly white ass.

Huzzah to your lily white ass!

Very nice. This should be the Anti-Rop theme song:
Put a boot in your ass

116 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:23:35am

re: #104 storagemanager

Who the hell is Lilly?...and why call call out her name?

If you knew Lilly Like I knew Lilly...

117 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:23:45am

re: #100 Bubbaman

What's even scarier is that people were actually applauding this nut-job

The left and the MSM (I know, redundant) love socialism/Marxism.

When Obama was going on about how health care is getting more costly and he was going to change that, the crowd went nuts. So what's is he going to do, cancel the laws of supply and demand? Health care is getting more expensive cause demand is increasing relative to supply, and his socialized medicine will only make that situation worse. You have to increase the supply, not find ways to take money form other people to pay for yours.

But most of those people don't care about that. They just are in love with the concept of taking money from others to pay for something for themselves. There's a lot of class-envy involved in this.

118 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:24:17am

re: #115 squirrelguy

Love that song.

thanks

119 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:24:54am
Dear Members of Law Enforcement (Federal, State, and Local):

If a suspect you stopped for the possible, likely, or definite commission of a crime is carrying a Koran, it might be best not to mention it.

Apparently, if you note that a suspect possesses a Koran, that means you are profiling, and their arrests--and any evidence you garnered from those arrests--should be thrown out.

That's the position of defense attorneys in the Smiling "Just Fireworks" Islamic Terrorists Youssef Samir Megahed and Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed in a hearing held this morning.

won't work with a Bible thou. [Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

120 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:24:59am
121 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:25:16am

re: #111 BabbaZee

Yup... It's a misconception that Braveheart wore blue facepaint...

He was just bloody freezing :-)

122 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:25:27am

re: #116 squirrelguy

re: #104 storagemanager


Who the hell is Lilly?...and why call call out her name?

If you knew Lilly Like I knew Lilly...

lol

123 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:25:48am

re: #58 ornery elephant

Here we go again...

Israel's Netanyahu: 'Olmert Is Going To Cede Jerusalem'


Likud leader and chairman of the opposition MK Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday that the Olmert government is taking measures to divide Jerusalem, and urged the key Shas party to bolt the coalition and topple the government in order "to save Jerusalem."

Good morning lizards.
Looks to me like Israeli democracy in action.
Is it possible that Shas is afraid to pull the plug on Olmert for fear that Netanyahu will then be able to form a unity government without Shas retaining the balance of power?

124 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:26:34am

re: #120 BabbaZee

Pictures of Lily


What about that hottie Lilly Munster?

125 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:26:41am

re: #121 Wishbone

You crack me up!

126 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:26:58am

re: #113 AuldTrafford

Well, best of luck for tonight mate. Here's to good footie from all sides.

127 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:27:19am

re: #124 storagemanager

re: #120 BabbaZee

Pictures of Lily


What about that hottie Lilly Munster?

ROTF

My grandma looked just like Lily Munster

128 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:28:06am
Iran: President calls Israel a 'blood-thirsty beast' in new attack

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

129 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:30:19am

Change in Iran...yeah baby...not on my watch!...sing it...

Tehran, 20 Feb. (AKI) - Six people were hanged in the Iranian city of Zanjan, 200 kilometres west of Tehran on Wednesday.

The six were allegedly part of a criminal gang who robbed jewellery stores in the region.

With these new executions, the total number of people executed in Iran has risen to 43 since the beginning of 2008.

At least 298 people were executed in 2007, almost twice as many as in 2006.

Iran has one of the highest execution rates in the world. Methods of execution include hanging and stoning.

On Tuesday, a 70-year-old man was sentenced by an Iranian judge to four months in jail and 30 lashes for going out on the street with his dog.

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

130 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:30:26am

re: #124 storagemanager

re: #120 BabbaZee

Pictures of Lily


What about that hottie Lilly Munster?

Was thinking more along the lines of Lillie Langtry. LOL

131 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:30:50am

re: #123 sparrowlake

Morning Sparrow

132 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:32:08am

re: #127 BabbaZee

Whoa there!... Your Nan looked like Yvonne Decarlo?

Your Grandad must have had the luck of the Seven Snotty Sisters and the grace and favour of the snottiest one of the lot of them*

*Old Liverpool Saying...One of my Nan's favourites

133 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:32:22am

Good evening from Manilaaa.

My Obamite little bros were all smiles when they heard about Wisconsin and Hawaii. What's a 'zard to do? >.=.>

134 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:33:30am

re: #133 laZardo

learn a lot of quotes from Marx, Lennin, Mao, and Fidel.

135 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:33:41am

re: #132 Wishbone

LOL yes she really did, and her name was Lilian too.

Grandpa split whensmy dad 8 , I never met him.

Apparently... looks ain't everything...

but Pop sure is good looking
lol

136 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:35:02am

re: #130 squirrelguy

re: #124 storagemanager


re: #120 BabbaZee

Pictures of Lily

What about that hottie Lilly Munster?

Was thinking more along the lines of Lillie Langtry. LOL


The Judge...would not like that!

137 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:35:14am

re: #134 BulgarWheat

That could work...though I actually showed one of them the latest zombietime and he was pretty much "lol commies." The other doesn't care much for politics...

138 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:37:15am
ABC News' Jennifer Parker and Eloise Harper Report: Sen. Hillary Clinton took a swipe at her daughter's profession today at an economic roundtable discussion at a restaurant in Parma, Ohio, suggesting wealthy investment bankers and hedge fund managers on Wall Street aren't doing real 'work.'

The former first lady's daughter, Chelsea Clinton, works for New York-based hedge fund Avenue Capital Group. She previously worked in New York for McKinsey & Company, her first job after graduating with her master's degree from Oxford University

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

139 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:37:35am

Morning
{Bulgar}

140 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:38:16am

re: #139 BabbaZee

{Babba!}

Good Morning!

141 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:38:32am

re: #131 BabbaZee

Good morning to you Babbaleh - have a great day.

142 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:39:47am

re: #141 sparrowlake

thanks sparrow

143 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:39:53am
A few people were leaving at the end of his town hall event while Obama was still speaking. Obama chalked that up, unknowingly, to them just wanting to beat traffic so he said goodbye in front of the 3,000 person crowd.

But then said, "We're having a little siesta out here - a little party," as a way to coax them to come back.

The problem?

Siesta, in Spanish, means nap. Fiesta, in Spanish, means party.

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

144 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:40:19am

re: #139 BabbaZee

The outraged spleen has arisen! Prepare the martyrs-to-be!

/lololol

145 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:41:18am

Morning, evening, and afternoon from the wilds of central wa/ state. Absolutly stunning view out the kitchen window. Full moon over the Cascades. We are getting ready for an epic battle(in best Howard Cosel voice) His Vagueness vs She who can't be named. Dirty tricks will start flying, mud slinging will be fast and furious. It will be an epic brawl. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. It will be a tale told by two idiots. Swallowed by legions of true believers.

146 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:41:25am
147 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:42:05am

Obama's cousin call's for riots in the street...again...

Raila Odinga,

[Link: www.earthtimes.org...]

148 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:42:40am

re: #145 pingjockey

LOL... You got your popcorn in then?

149 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:44:16am

Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance. I wonder if he was referring to the romantic comedy movie, Deliverance?

That Boy shore has a purty mouth

150 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:44:29am

re: #148 Wishbone
Popcorn, beer, pretzels. Handy copy of the Bill of Rights, lots of extra sound supressors for my ears, so i don't have to hear the babble.

151 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:45:12am
152 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:45:20am

re: #149 BulgarWheat

Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance. I wonder if he was referring to the romantic comedy movie, Deliverance?

That Boy shore has a purty mouth


Did his leg shiver?

153 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:46:24am

re: #149 BulgarWheat

[BLINK!]

154 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:46:58am

re: #152 storagemanager
Bwahaha, coffee everywhere. OTOH deliverance from what? Oh, I know, having any extra cash in our wallets.

155 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:48:54am

Shuttle getting rady to land. I was on a missle tracking ship at Cape Canaveral from '85 to '90. Saw Challenger blow up. Terrible sight.

156 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:49:01am

re: #153 BabbaZee

Babba ...I'm falling behind I only have 1 truck and 1 car broke down in the drive.lol

157 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:49:22am

re: #149 BulgarWheat


Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance

These fucking so smart I me miner secular assholes are making him their messiah

but they are too sophisticated to believe in fairy tales

there's a REAL deliverer, assholes

and he's gonna throw your sorry asses in the goat pile

158 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:49:41am

re: #156 hayseed

Oh No! lololololol

159 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:50:16am

re: #156 hayseed

You might be a redneck if... Your house is on wheels, and your car is on blocks!

160 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:51:03am

re: #155 pingjockey

thanks for the reminder...nasa tv

161 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:51:04am

re: #120 BabbaZee

Did you say Pictures of Lilies? We have her at my house.

[Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]

162 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:51:26am

re: #161 Widow'smight

beautiful!

163 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:53:16am

CNN memo - be nice to our leftist buddy - Castro. After all, Castro did bring "Holy Universal Health Care" (never mind how hopelessly pathetic and sub-standard it is) to his starving poor masses. So please be nice to the dried up old commie. In the end he was a swell guy. Plus - Castro demonized America - and we leftists at CNN understand how that can work in your favor.

164 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:53:53am
Muhammad’s teaching was too great. During 2007, a man (of forty years) from Afghanistan first shaved his wife Nazia’s (of seventeen years) head and then cut off her ears, and nose and broke her teeth with a stone, knocked her down and beat her severely until her hands and legs were broken and burnt her feet with boiling water while she fainted, on the first day of Eid ul Adha, an Islamic ritual of sacrifice. Nazia is his second wife. He already killed his first wife. (Hairan, 2007; IRIN, 2007). This is how some Muslims celebrate Eid festival; sacrificing own wife in place of a camel. Camels are costly but women are cheap.

[Link: www.islam-watch.org...]

165 bigmacdaddy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:54:06am

re: #77 lindamarie

You must be the other Kabuli that I've heard about...

166 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:55:08am
167 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:55:08am

re: #161 Widow'smight

You must live in the pacific northwest? Gorgeous!

168 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:55:48am

no school for my son today...he's making me pancackes..yum

169 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:56:47am

Am I late to the party? Have you all seen this Obama gay sex and crack party in a limo allegation video on youtube? My, oh my.

170 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:57:07am

re: #169 godfrey

Thats been around a while
strikes me as utter bullshit

171 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:57:32am

re: #163 FrogMarch

That's just a FOX NWES SMEAR concocted to DEMONIZE ALL WHO STAND UP for the PPL against IMEPRARLIST OPPSRESSION!111

/lolol

172 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:57:40am

Hey beer lovers, hold on to your wallets:

Heineken warns of growing costs; net falls 33%

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Dutch brewer Heineken N.V. on Wednesday warned of growing input costs and reported a 33% drop in annual profit, taking the luster off a year in which it reported strong emerging-market sales growth and managed to nudge U.S. sales higher.

173 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:58:09am

re: #170 BabbaZee

I can scarcely believe it myself. What a world, whether it's true or false.

174 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:59:03am

re: #162 BabbaZee

I had a great Aunt Lillian growing up. She lived in Williamsport near my Grandma. They were the only people we knew who had their own swimming pool, and we used to go there with my grandparents.

I think she was shorter than my Grandma who was maybe 5'.

175 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:59:10am

re: #172 3 wood

I like Grolsch better.

176 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:59:45am

re: #170 BabbaZee

If I ever run for president, I'd like to say now that my antics in the Loire Valley ca. 1985 were merely common youthful indiscretions. Thank you.

177 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:59:52am

8 minutes till touch down...don't miss it . It really is cool. nasatv

178 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 5:59:53am

re: #173 godfrey

There are far more damaging truths to be told about that devil

179 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:00:11am

Islam is noble...

YALA (Thailand), Feb 19: A 46-year-old Buddhist man was shot and then set ablaze as he tried to escape an attack by suspected Islamic separatists on Tuesday in Thailand’s Muslim-majority south, police said.
Netr Noh-uma, a highway department official, was shot as he was riding a motorcycle with a colleague in Pattani, one of three provinces along the Malaysian border hit by four years of separatist unrest, police said.

A 34-year-old man was riding the motorcycle with him. He was also shot but managed to run away, police said.

Netr was too seriously wounded to escape. Police said that when he fell off the motorcycle, two militants doused him with petrol and set him on fire.

“They burned him alive after he was shot and fell from his motorbike.

Islam means peace! [Link: jihadwatch.org...]

180 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:00:14am

Hey, Buzz Aldrin is now a doctor. Probably a doctor of being cool.

181 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:00:15am

re: #172 3 wood

I think I kept Heineken afloat when I was working in Greece year before last. Must a put a big dent in their revenue when I came home.

182 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:00:35am

Good morning Lizards everywhere...

183 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:00:43am

re: #149 BulgarWheat

Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance.

See, this is where they are making Obama into a Messianic figure, and it makes me want to throw up.

184 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:01:14am

re: #178 BabbaZee

The communist connection won't affect his pull on Donk voters. Even his Insane Church Posse aren't hurting him. WTF are these voters smoking?

185 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:01:47am

re: #184 godfrey

Insane Church Posse? Heh, I like that one.

186 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:02:50am

Can someone in Chicago drive by Louis Farrakhan's place on the South Side and see if he has a Barack for President sign in his yard? Am told he had one when Barack ran for the US Senate.

187 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:03:13am

re: #174 Widow'smight

I come from the tall folk, grandma was 5 foot 6 at 93 when she died, so she had to be at least 5' 7' or 8' as a young person... which was very tall for a woman in her day

Dad is 6' 2", I am 5' 9"

188 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:03:21am

re: #183 3 wood

re: #149 BulgarWheat

Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance.

See, this is where they are making Obama into a Messianic figure, and it makes me want to throw up.

Offering deliverance? From what to whom? And it's funny that the leftists were busy complaining when Bush got cozy with Christian fundamentalists? Here, their presumptive nominee and his various supporters are busy using the same language and no one bats an eye.

Nice.

189 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:03:53am

re: #170 BabbaZee

re: #169 godfrey

Thats been around a while
strikes me as utter bullshit

It has to be.

I watched all the Michelle Obama speech videos you linked, Babba. The doctors say I may recover in the future with careful treatment.

In any case, after watching Michelle in action, I am fully convinced by attitude, body language, and tone that she would never suffer BHO acting like WJC.

BHO would have been DOA if he had pulled a stunt like that.

190 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:04:06am

re: #184 godfrey

The Insane Church Posse!
LOLOLOLOLOL!
All their stash are belong to me.

191 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:04:17am

re: #184 godfrey
Powdered unicorn horn and essence of rainbow mixed with cotton candy drops.

192 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:04:20am

re: #183 3 wood

re: #149 BulgarWheat


Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance.

See, this is where they are making Obama into a Messianic figure, and it makes me want to throw up.

It makes me want to...want to...seethe.

193 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:04:31am

re: #184 godfrey

re: #178 BabbaZee

The communist connection won't affect his pull on Donk voters. Even his Insane Church Posse aren't hurting him. WTF are these voters smoking?

I dont know what they are smoking, but I'm certain it is similar to the drug Bloodhype from the Alan Dean Foster novel Bloodhype. Use it one time and you are hooked for life, what little is left of it since it is also 100 percent fatal.

194 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:04:33am

re: #167 FrogMarch

No, I live in SE PA, right above the Amish country. I'm getting ready for spring, and these are my favorites. Take a good whif.

[Link: farm2.static.flickr.com...]

195 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:05:37am

re: #186 BulgarWheat

Can someone in Chicago drive by Louis Farrakhan's place on the South Side and see if he has a Barack for President sign in his yard? Am told he had one when Barack ran for the US Senate.

OMG, LGF just called for a drive by on Louis Farrakhan!

/CAIR mode off

196 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:05:59am

Obama's candidacy strikes me as analogous to Soviet architecture and public art: it was deliberately designed to be ugly so as to brutalize the population into submission. A sort of naked assertion of sheer power, to humiliate people. So here's Obama, the Empty Suit, the Emperor with No Clothes, pushed forward in internationalist/messianic terms with total aplomb, -- and we're supposed to just accept it because we've been told "this sort of person" embodies all our hopes, pride, etc.

What a steaming pile of horsesh*t. But it's supposed to be precisely that, to have the desired effect of pushing Americans down and forcing them to eat what they don't want to. For their own good, don't you know.

The only word that comes to mind for this sort of strategist is "a**hole."

197 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:06:04am

re: #192 OldLineTexan

re: #183 3 wood

re: #149 BulgarWheat


Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance.


See, this is where they are making Obama into a Messianic figure, and it makes me want to throw up.

It makes me want to...want to...seethe.

Always remember, pillage first, then burn.
- Wise Old Viking

198 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:06:35am

It's coming in!

199 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:06:50am

re: #188 lawhawk

re: #183 3 wood


re: #149 BulgarWheat

Chris Matthews just said that Barack is offering deliverance.

See, this is where they are making Obama into a Messianic figure, and it makes me want to throw up.

Offering deliverance? From what to whom? And it's funny that the leftists were busy complaining when Bush got cozy with Christian fundamentalists? Here, their presumptive nominee and his various supporters are busy using the same language and no one bats an eye.

Nice.

It's easy to understand. Devoid of actual hope or any connection to the Creator, man will invent religion and gods.

200 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:07:21am

BabbaZee...I know your out there...Good morning dear...

201 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:07:37am

Landing gear down.

Touch-down!

Welcome home, Atlantis.

202 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:07:42am

re: #189 OldLineTexan

100% concur with your analysis.
Bitch got some crazy eyes too.

I don't know how you made it through them all...
I couldn't do it.

It was like trying to watch a beheading video - matter of fact I had an easier time watching that, sick as that sounds.

203 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:08:11am

Shuttle lands safe, yay! God bless us, there's no one like us.

204 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:08:12am

Good morning lizards! Missed all the excitement yesterday. Been on a short hiatus. Just catching up now.
Something is going RIGHT, when the WRONG people get irritated. Heh.
Charles Johnson and Lizard Nation: keep fighting the good fight. More people will be watching with all the free publicity! (How the hamsters holding up?)
To Cair: This is God.
[Link: www.biblegateway.com...]
All others are false and evil.

205 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:08:43am

re: #195 OldLineTexan

ROTFL.

Good morning CAIR minions. Have some bacon, or at least a couple sausages before you leave. I cooked 'em up fresh this morning.

Wanna pet the dog?

206 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:09:03am

re: #200 doriangrey

Shalom Dorian

207 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:09:11am
Eight people have been arrested in Jordan for propagating the Christian faith, according to a Saudi newspaper.
Jordanian security forces arrested eight people, mostly foreigners, after they were caught distributing missionary material to Bedouin families north and east of the Jordanian capital, Amman, the Saudi daily Al-Watan reported...

Sources said they were "enticing" impoverished youngsters by paying them money and calling on them to marry foreign girls...

Evangelism is a practice frowned upon in the Muslim world, and often associated with Western imperialism.

The Jordanian government prohibits conversion from Islam and the proselytizing of Muslims. The Shari'a courts have the authority to prosecute people trying to convert Muslims, according to the United States State Department's annual report on religious freedom.

Muslims in Jordan who convert to another religion face social and governmental discrimination, the report said.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

208 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:09:17am

Good Morning Y'all - from a chilly (35 degrees, going up to 64 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

209 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:09:31am

re: #201 MandyManners

Morning mandy. How is your BP this a.m.?

210 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:09:47am

re: #205 BulgarWheat

re: #195 OldLineTexan

ROTFL.

Good morning CAIR minions. Have some bacon, or at least a couple sausages before you leave. I cooked 'em up fresh this morning.

Wanna pet the dog?

How about a nice stout Ale, while you're waiting on your bacon...

211 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:10:39am
Opposition chairman says Olmert's government intends to divide capital, warns Jerusalem will become 'Mecca of global terror' if Israel withdraws from eastern neighborhoods

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

212 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:03am

re: #210 doriangrey

sounds just about right.

213 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:09am

re: #188 lawhawk

Evangelists are evangelists. Whoever makes the biggest donation to their offering box gets their bloc vote.

/that's how Philippine politics work, at least...

214 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:10am

re: #208 realwest
OK. How is RW this morning? It was 26 here last nite will be mid 40s today. Spring has sprung in the Cascade foothills.

215 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:19am

re: #210 doriangrey

re: #205 BulgarWheat

re: #195 OldLineTexan

ROTFL.

Good morning CAIR minions. Have some bacon, or at least a couple sausages before you leave. I cooked 'em up fresh this morning.

Wanna pet the dog?

How about a nice stout Ale, while you're waiting on your bacon...

While gazing at a painting of Mo.

216 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:22am

re: #205 BulgarWheat

re: #195 OldLineTexan

ROTFL.

Good morning CAIR minions. Have some bacon, or at least a couple sausages before you leave. I cooked 'em up fresh this morning.

Wanna pet the dog?

Throw in some sausage. Can I bring my German Shepherd? She's a delicate little flower. HA!

217 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:34am

re: #211 storagemanager

Opposition chairman says Olmert's government intends to divide capital, warns Jerusalem will become 'Mecca of global terror' if Israel withdraws from eastern neighborhoods

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I object.

We already have a Mecca of global terror.

It's called "Mecca".

/morning Dougie

218 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:11:59am

Saw a pathetic bumper sticker on the way in this morning (on a Prius of course)...

Clinton 2008
Obama 2016

Now there's a stirring appeal.

Vote for Hillary. Not because she's the best choice for America, but because damn it she's entitled to it. It's her year and that Obama guy needs to wait his turn.

219 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:12:01am

re: #215 squirrelguy
And watching pig races.

220 squirrelguy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:12:41am

re: #219 pingjockey

re: #215 squirrelguy
And watching pig races.

pssst. Bet on #4. It's a sure thing.

221 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:12:48am

re: #175 pingjockey

I have a few bottles of Grolsch in the fridge that I keep lying around for the odd moment when I like a beer. It's no surprise that Heineken are losing sales, at least in Britain anyway. There's much better than some of the crud coming out of the taps these days and Heineken was never really a big seller.

222 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:12:55am

re: #206 BabbaZee

re: #200 doriangrey

Shalom Dorian

Good morning and a little something for you this morning...

223 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:13:13am

re: #216 MrMom

That paper leash you have on her probably won't hold up too long either. Toss a bag over their head, turn loose the dog, and you'd have an instant Abu Ghraib.

If it were a male dog, it might hump one of the poor fellas leg or something.

224 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:13:29am

re: #187 BabbaZee

My mom is 5'2", Dad is 5'5". I got some of my Grandpa's genes, I got to 6'. Speaking of flowers, here's one of my most beautiful ones.

[Link: farm2.static.flickr.com...]

225 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:13:33am

re: #214 pingjockey Good morning! I'm ok this morning, watched the shuttle land - still just takes my breath away!
I think it's gonna be spring here after the weekend (which is supposed to be cold and rainy)!
Then, three weeks later, or so, SUMMER!

226 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:13:39am

re: #209 pingjockey

Marvelous!

How are you doing?

I wonder how Clinton's feeling this morning. Did any ashtrays, lamps or vases get smashed last night?

227 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:14:17am
228 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:14:37am

re: #221 Wishbone
We have more micro brews here than you can shake a stick at. Actually, micro brew is a misnomer, they started as microbrews and have got big enough to sell in a 3 or 4 state area.

229 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:14:38am

re: #224 Widow'smight

awww

230 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:14:50am
For me, there’s the thrill of the Blue Angels roaring over cloudless skies. And the somber awe felt amid the hallowed waters that surround the sunken U.S.S. Arizona at the Pearl Harbor memorial.

Every naturalization ceremony I’ve attended, where hundreds of new Americans have raised their hands to swear an oath of allegiance to this land of liberty, has been a moment of pride for me. So have the awesome displays of American compassion at home and around the world. When millions of Americans rallied to help the victims of the 2005 tsunami in southern Asia—including members of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group that sped from Hong Kong to assist survivors—my heart filled with pride. It did again when the citizens of Houston opened their arms to Hurricane Katrina victims and folks across the country rushed to their churches, Salvation Army, and Red Cross offices to volunteer.

God bless you Michelle...for all you do. [Link: michellemalkin.com...]

231 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:14:58am

re: #218 Dirk Diggler

It's also an admission that Obama brings nothing to the table, currently. If he doesn't make it, just wait for his name to be on every significant co-sponsored piece of legislation during the next four years. They're going to build his resumé assiduously, try to put him on key committees, etc. This is how the game works, I suspect.

232 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:15:39am

re: #157 BabbaZee

If He's there and listening, tell Him please to hurry up and deliver already, the sooner the better - because the natives are getting restless.

233 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:16:03am

re: #187 BabbaZee

re: #174 Widow'smight

I come from the tall folk, grandma was 5 foot 6 at 93 when she died, so she had to be at least 5' 7' or 8' as a young person... which was very tall for a woman in her day

Dad is 6' 2", I am 5' 9"


5'-9" of raging zionist spleen piss and vinegar. Glad we're on the same side! :^)
How are ya { {Babba} } ?

234 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:16:19am

re: #231 godfrey

But they love nothing.

And they shall have it
in abundance

235 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:16:37am

re: #226 MandyManners
I bet there was shit flying everywhere. Wonder if her staffers get hazardous duty pay? Why I asked about the BP, was the cognito factor yesterday.

236 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:16:50am

re: #227 BabbaZee

re: #222 doriangrey

Love it. Rock me, Amadeus!

Heh heh heh I listen to his Fourth in C sharp minor on the way to work, it calms my nerves when driving in our wonderful SoCal bumper to bumper traffic. (Californians just dont know how to driver)

237 n in wi  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:16:52am

re: #149 BulgarWheat

Would it be ok to make them"squeal like a piggy", or is that forbidden by the koran?

238 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:17:31am

re: #224 Widow'smight Morning to you! That must be y'all on your way to the U.S.S. Arizona Memorial, in Pearl Harbor, right?

239 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:17:35am

re: #227 BabbaZee

Falco!... Blimey... There's a blast from the past.

If I remember rightly, he was a two hit wonder. The other one was 'Vienna Calling.'

Ha!... Fear me, oh pub quiz contestants.

240 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:17:43am

Good morning, C.A.I.R.!

Hung-over from all that seething?

241 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:17:49am
242 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:18:20am

re: #232 sparrowlake

You're goood, lol

243 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:18:43am
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Wednesday that the Iranian nation believes that presence of foreign forces in the region would damage regional security, tranquility and friendship.

Addressing a large group of local residents gathered at the city's main stadium, he said, "The powerful nation of Iran is the friend and brother to all regional nations both in happiness and difficulties." Those who entered the Persian Gulf region made attempts to create discord among the regional states and made the region insecure, he said urging foreign forces to leave the region soon.

By waging wars in different parts of the world, the bullying powers try to sell their weapons, the president said adding that they try to expand their hegemony throughout the globe.

Elsewhere in his speech, the president condemned brutality of the Zionist regime in the occupied territories and its targeted assassination of leaders of Palestine resistance movement fighting to evict Israel from Palestine.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

244 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:18:44am

Hah! McCain bringing up the "inexperience" factor.

245 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:18:49am

re: #188 lawhawk

Offering deliverance? From what to whom? And it's funny that the leftists were busy complaining when Bush got cozy with Christian fundamentalists? Here, their presumptive nominee and his various supporters are busy using the same language and no one bats an eye.

Nice.

But it's okay when it's one of theirs.

Chris Matthews might as well just have his pants around his ankles when he talks about Obama. They don't even try to pretend to be objective anymore.

246 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:19:01am
247 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:19:34am

I forgot. Just for Hoppie!

*smooch*

248 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:19:36am

re: #237 n in wi

now I'd almost forgotten that line.

249 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:19:56am

YO BABBA!

250 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:20:01am

re: #180 pingjockey

Hey, Buzz Aldrin is now a doctor. Probably a doctor of being cool.

He had a Ph.D. before he went into space.

Ph.D. in astronautics from M.I.T., 1963

251 Wishbone  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:20:26am

re: #228 pingjockey

I know what you mean about the micro brew market. We have breweries in pub cellars here in Liverpool, they're that popular. It's the names they give the ales that crack me up sometimes: 'Wobbly Bob' and 'The Dogs Bollocks' being ones that stuck in my mind.

252 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:20:35am

re: #239 Wishbone

Fear me, oh pub quiz contestants

LOL!

253 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:20:37am

re: #242 BabbaZee

re: #232 sparrowlake

You're goood, lol

Ah yes, I remember those days quite fondly... ;)

254 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:21:23am

re: #234 BabbaZee

I am always reminded that Stan and his minions create nothing. They are merely parasitic. It takes courage to create, to pour one's heart and soul into something, to risk it all. It is an image of the divine. That is why Stan and his minions detest courage and creativity with every scale and sinew.

255 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:21:25am

re: #238 realwest

Nope, that would be the USS New Jersey looking from Penns Landing in Philly.

Ever been on the North Carolina? The Mrs loved it, and we might do it again this year. Course I imagine your journeys on Naval ships weren't for pleasure.

256 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:21:39am

my snowdrops have been blooming for a couple weeks now

257 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:21:46am
258 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:21:53am

re: #246 BabbaZee

That guy's so gonna get fatwa'd, lol.

259 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:22:40am
In other CAIR news---the unindicted co-conspirator has asked the FBI to investigate comments, in their latest attempt to stifle free speech, made on Little Green Footballs a politically conservative site.

One may recall last Summer when CAIR attempted to prevent New York Times Best Selling Author and Educator Robert Spencer from addressing the Young America's Foundation in Washington, D.C.

[Link: cristyli.blogspot.com...]

260 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:23:16am

re: #258 laZardo

re: #246 BabbaZee

That guy's so gonna get fatwa'd, lol.

Yup, thats what happens to those who tell the truth about Islam, right Ibrahim Hooper...

261 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:23:20am

Good morning one & all,

At The Toronto (Red) Star they're falling over each other eulogizing the dictator Fidel Castro,

Fidel Castro resigns

"I don't have to be in charge (of the country)," Castro told the Toronto Star in an interview after a 1998 visit to Cuba by former prime minister Jean Chrétien.

"I could be a soldier on the line. But, whatever I do, I will be fighting forever ... until my very last day on Earth."

Yesterday, true to his word, Castro made a similar pledge in a statement to the Cuban people when he announced his resignation as president and commander-in-chief after 49 years. At 81 and ailing, he said he would remain with them to "fight as a soldier in the battle of ideas."

Disgusting. Curiously, no mention of the tens of thousands of Cubans executed by the regime, or of the millions of African's killed in Castro's exported revolutions.

262 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:23:26am

Question, lizards:

Why are death-fatwas not considered incitements to murder and prosecuted accordingly? Criminalize them, find the offending imams, and prosecute them to the nth degree.

263 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:23:43am
264 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:24:34am

re: #262 godfrey

Question, lizards:

Why are death-fatwas not considered incitements to murder and prosecuted accordingly? Criminalize them, find the offending imams, and prosecute them to the nth degree.

Because nobody has the balls to offend Islam, after all Islam is a religion of piece...

265 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:24:39am

re: #256 hayseed

Don't have them... YET

266 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:24:56am

potential bumper sticker "Bong hits for Barack"

267 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:25:00am

OK, once again time to head off to the salt mines...

268 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:25:01am

Underscoring what I wrote earlier this week, Ahmadinejad called Israel a wild beast and an infectious microbe.

269 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:25:06am

re: #263 BabbaZee

Tom Jones got soul.

270 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:25:24am

re: #245 3 wood

Chris Matthews might as well just have his pants around his ankles when he talks about Obama. They don't even try to pretend to be objective anymore.

The guy is such a tool. Did you know that he's the guy who wrote the famous 'malaise' speech Carter gave back in the day?

But I have to give him credit for nailing that guy from Texas on not being able to name ONE legislative accomplishment of Obama's during his Senate term.

morning everyone!

271 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:26:07am

re: #247 MandyManners

I forgot. Just for Hoppie!

*smooch*

Hoppie...Hoopie...a shit-slinging-monkey smells the same by any name.

272 doriangrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:27:04am

re: #268 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Underscoring what I wrote earlier this week, Ahmadinejad called Israel a wild beast and an infectious microbe.

Yea, so says a evil bastards whose so called religion of peace keeps killing anyone who dare to not submit to it.

273 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:27:09am
274 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:27:13am

re: #270 wahabicorridor

Chris "The Tingler" Matthews!

275 Confuzed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:28:06am

Brother and Sister Lizards and Beloved Friends at CAIR,
2 hours down, a dozen or more to go before the 1st draft is ready to go.
Thanks again CAIR for the kick in the shins. Slumbering Lizards are best left sleeping:).
Charles, keep up the good fight, many of us with much less talent than you are working round the clock to help.

276 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:28:07am

re: #270 wahabicorridor

Did you know that he's the guy who wrote the famous 'malaise' speech Carter gave back in the day?

OOOoooOoOoo OooOoOOo I do...
/because you taught me that 3 years ago
lol!

277 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:28:08am

re: #241 BabbaZee
Awesome. I was just reading that over the weekend!
Anybody ever call you GALE?
[Link: www.biblegateway.com...]
Heh.

278 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:28:29am
The Post-Dispatch quoted CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper in their article. You'd think that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch would know the difference by now between a blog post and a comment on a blog post--
Obviously, they don't:

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

279 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:28:56am

re: #268 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

A microbe that infected Hamas TV's Killer Bee with CCD, it seems.

280 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:29:03am

re: #274 MandyManners

ahhahhaaa!

[BLINK]

281 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:29:35am

re: #264 doriangrey

re: #262 godfrey


Question, lizards:

Why are death-fatwas not considered incitements to murder and prosecuted accordingly? Criminalize them, find the offending imams, and prosecute them to the nth degree.


Because nobody has the balls to offend Islam, after all Islam is a religion of piece...


Also, they have an ironclad defence - dhimminished capacity.

282 Shug  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:09am

re: #275 Confuzed

Can't wait to read it

283 godfrey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:11am
Kissinger: The major events in European history were conducted by nation-states which developed over several hundred years. There was never a question in the mind of European populations that the state was authorized to ask for sacrifices and that the citizens had a duty to carry it out. Now the structure of the nation-state has been given up to some considerable extent in Europe. And the capacity of governments to ask for sacrifices has diminished correspondingly.

And so the EU is incredibly vulnerable. Jihadis know this and are acting accordingly. Pretty insightful interview here.

284 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:25am

For atheists, the Communists sure do have a thing for Christological clap-trap:

Castro's second coming

The tale behind the `most glorious resurrection in 2,000 years'
285 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:30am

re: #270 wahabicorridor

The guy is such a tool. Did you know that he's the guy who wrote the famous 'malaise' speech Carter gave back in the day?


Yep, so much for balanced news and commentary.

286 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:34am

re: #255 Widow'smight Nope, I only took one "ride" on a Navy ship and it was and will be my last! LOL!
I said what I did because - way long ago, I was in Hawaii for my honeymoon and we went to the USS Arizona Memorial and, directly across from it was berthed or tied up or whatever, the USS Missouri - and I got excited and started jumping all around in the Navy launch trying to get both of them in the same frame. Finally did and when my then wife asked me why I was so excited, I told her "The USS Arizona Memorial, commemorates, among other things, the start of WWII and the peace treaty ending that war was signed on the decks of the USS Missouri!" She didn't think it was such a big deal. Go figure!
Nope haven't been to the USS North Carolina yet - hard for me to walk around that much, but I have spent literally a hundred hours or more on the USS Intrepid which was a museum in NYC before they hauled her off to get refurbished.

287 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:35am

re: #277 MrMom

Anybody ever call you GALE


heh hee
no... but there's this one old crotchety man that insists on calling me Grace even though he has known my name for 40 years

lol

288 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:30:42am

re: #274 MandyManners

re: #270 wahabicorridor

Chris "The Tingler" Matthews!

Oy, my sciatica!

289 Karridine  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:32:54am
The Post-Dispatch quoted CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Stooper in their article. You'd think that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch would know the difference by now between a blog post and a comment on a blog post--

Obviously, they don't...

/so I'mowdayeer

290 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:33:00am

re: #257 BabbaZee Oh Thankew! Love that tune!
You spinning 'em as well as always out here this morning?

291 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:34:22am

re: #276 BabbaZee

OOOoooOoOoo OooOoOOo I do...

You are too funny!

There's a piece in the Financial Times this morning that is really depressing. I knew this financial world is in a mess, but this looks really bad. Like world-wide depression all over again. I'll see if I can find it online. Should cheer everybody up.

292 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:34:34am

re: #290 realwest

You spinning 'em as well as always out here this morning?


I try.

293 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:34:42am

re: #266 BulgarWheat Good morning to you! Hope all is well in the Wheat household today?!

294 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:36:18am

Morning everybody...

I've got to look into this CAIR stuff... I guess Michael Savage's lawsuit is really going to churn up some bad stuff on them... Good...

So, last night was the first time I've ever heard Obama speak. I admit he is eloquent and can run circles around John McCain when it comes to that... But, man oh man, his 'policies' such that they are, are atrocious and will clearly set our nation back for a long, long time... He's very dangerous... I'm thinking more dangerous than even Hillary...

295 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:36:47am

re: #286 realwest


Before I plan a vacation (or rather imagine vacations, as I haven't had one in 5 years) I always see if there are any airplane or warship museums, or battlefields to tour.

296 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:37:13am
297 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:37:41am

re: #291 wahabicorridor

Correction cometh based on the false gods worshipped
Money is a major false GOD in this world
and therefore must and will take a fall

/wanders off to dip a sinner and eat a locust

lol

298 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:37:46am
BREAKING NEWS: Pentagon says window of opportunity is now open to shoot down failing spy satellite

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

299 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:37:51am

re: #280 BabbaZee

re: #274 MandyManners

ahhahhaaa!

[BLINK]

"Don't be embarassed about opening your mouth and letting rip with all you got."

Any way you can send that to Chris Matthews?

300 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:38:20am

re: #294 tfc3rid

Morning everybody...

I've got to look into this CAIR
stuff... I guess Michael Savage's lawsuit is really going to churn up
some bad stuff on them... Good...

So, last night was the first
time I've ever heard Obama speak. I admit he is eloquent and can run
circles around John McCain when it comes to that... But, man oh man,
his 'policies' such that they are, are atrocious and will clearly set
our nation back for a long, long time... He's very dangerous... I'm
thinking more dangerous than even Hillary...

David Frum has a good little piece on NRO this morining about how all Obama has going for him are pretty little speeches.

Like Obama , [William Jennings] Bryan was a charismatic young political (just 36 at the time of his first presidential run!) with a thin political record. Yet on the strength of one legendary speech at a Democratic national convention, he was clutched to heart by the party's left wing and made the repository of its grandest hopes on a whole range of so-called progressive causes.

301 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:38:42am

re: #250 Dar ul Harb
Thanks Dar. Hey was it Buzz or Neil that punched out the moon landing troofer?

302 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:38:56am

re: #299 MandyManners

re: #280 BabbaZee

re: #274 MandyManners

ahhahhaaa!

[BLINK]

"Don't be embarassed about opening your mouth and letting rip with all you got."

Any way you can send that to Chris Matthews?

I have no clue where to send it

Lizards, send that to him

lol

303 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:39:35am

re: #285 3 wood Good morning my friend - hope all is well with you and yours today!
Is it warm enough for golf yet?!?

304 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:39:49am

re: #287 BabbaZee

re: #277 MrMom


Anybody ever call you GALE

heh hee
no... but there's this one old crotchety man that insists on calling me Grace even though he has known my name for 40 years

lol


Possibly because (drum roll please) you're "full of it"?
/insert rim shot here
//ducks the flying rotten veggies

305 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:39:53am

re: #255 Widow'smight

Ever been on the North Carolina? The Mrs loved it, and we might do it again this year. Course I imagine your journeys on Naval ships weren't for pleasure.

If you ever get the chance, go on the Yorktown near Charleston. Amazing ship.


And I'm really proud of my country for that ship and all who sailed onher.

306 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:39:58am

re: #298 storagemanager

What time are they gonna shoot it down? I have to get up early for college tomorrow so I hope it isn't too late...

307 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:40:12am

re: #288 Dar ul Harb

re: #274 MandyManners


re: #270 wahabicorridor

Chris "The Tingler" Matthews!


Oy, my sciatica!

It truly is a bitch. Well, so is Chris "The Tingler" Matthews.

308 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:40:15am

Ok, here we go.

America’s economy risks mother of all meltdowns

Recently, Professor Roubini’s scenarios have been dire enough to make the flesh creep. But his thinking deserves to be taken seriously. He first predicted a US recession in July 2006*. At that time, his view was extremely controversial. It is so no longer. Now he states that there is “a rising probability of a ‘catastrophic’ financial and economic outcome”**. The characteristics of this scenario are, he argues: “A vicious circle where a deep recession makes the financial losses more severe and where, in turn, large and growing financial losses and a financial meltdown make the recession even more severe.”

Some of the 12 points outlined have already happened.

Also, I see that a munis auction failed yesterday.

gah.

309 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:40:32am

GMORNING Lizardim.

310 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:40:45am
311 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:41:01am

re: #304 MrMom

ahhhahaa

No ...his first love was a girl named Grace, and I look like her to him is all...

312 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:41:04am

I need news...gota have it.

313 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:41:21am

Chirs "Malaise" Matthews.

314 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:41:34am

I missed all the CAIR stuff. LOL.

It must really SUCK for CAIR that they aren't computer geniuses like Charles.

315 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:42:08am
316 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:42:16am

re: #291 wahabicorridor Good morning! Uh, "world-wide depression all over again."? Y'all don't have to RUSH to find that article, thank you very much! LOL!

317 Shug  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:42:32am

re: #314 WriterMom

I missed all the CAIR stuff. LOL.

It must really SUCK for CAIR that they aren't computer geniuses like Charles.

I wish he'd transferred their links to zombie's folsom street photo pics

ha ha

318 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:42:35am

re: #194 Widow'smight

Peonies? Gorgeous.

319 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:43:01am

re: #312 storagemanager

Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.

Start at page one and go all the way to page three.

320 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:43:20am

re: #306 laZardo

re: #298 storagemanager

What time are they gonna shoot it down? I have to get up early for college tomorrow so I hope it isn't too late...


The government issued notices to aviators and mariners to remain clear of a section of the Pacific beginning at 10:30 p.m. ET Wednesday, indicating the first window of opportunity to launch an SM-3 missile from a Navy cruiser, the USS Lake Erie, in an effort to hit the wayward satellite. [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

321 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:43:40am

re: #292 BabbaZee You sure is! Geez, wonder how much greater Janis woulda been if she'd had a really good band behind her?

322 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:44:12am

re: #297 BabbaZee

Correction cometh based on the false gods worshipped
Money is a major false GOD in this world
and therefore must and will take a fall

tsk. so sanguine you are...

323 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:44:38am

Good morning.

It was an ever-so-fun commute this morning. People need to learn how to drive.

I see Fauxbama won Wisconsin last night (what a shocker! I'll bet he just barely got away with 100% of Dane County). Any bets on if Hillary is toast after Texas and Ohio?

BTW, CAIR, I have just this to say to you, cause I know you're lurking here. Piss Be Upon You and Him.

And our own Dictator Daley is making an ass of himself again.

324 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:44:50am

re: #296 Iron Fist

re: #262 godfrey,


Muslims have a special exemption. It's like when they yell "Death to America!". No one is supposed to notice.

[/not sarc. I wish it were]

Actually, when they yell "Death to America!", Western 'progressives' see nothing wrong with that idea.

325 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:45:20am

re: #295 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Yeppers - me too. Don't need to be reminded, but it is nice to see reminders of those who came before us and made it possible for America to keep on being Free.

326 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:45:34am

re: #322 wahabicorridor

Problem is faith won't put food in my kids mouths or a roof over their heads. Faith for the soul.

327 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:45:45am

re: #320 storagemanager

That'd be about early afternoon here (11:30 am from the time it takes effect), good thing Thursday college ends early.

Now if only Manila wasn't facing the South China Sea instead of the Pacific...

328 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:45:54am

The one
The only
Big Mama

329 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #303 realwest


Is it warm enough for golf yet?!?

Nope, it was 15 and snowing sideways this morning at 4 am when I got up.

I'm going to take this year off from golf (well, more or less) and see if I can heal up my torn rotator cuff. It gets old playing in pain all the time. Besides, there's some 100 mile charity bike rides I want to participate in so I'm going to cocentrate on getting in shape for that this year.

How are you and Mom doing?

330 akak  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:08am

WOOHOO

American troops heading to West Bank.

now where did that big ass spotlight go?

331 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:20am

re: #322 wahabicorridor

it's all about the sanguine lol

332 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:26am

re: #324 Kenneth

They consider "Death to America" to be the progressive idea!

333 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:28am

re: #319 MandyManners

re: #312 storagemanager

Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.

Start at page one and go all the way to page three.

What the heck was that?

334 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:52am

re: #330 akak

There are special spot lights for asses? Cool.

335 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:46:59am

re: #324 Kenneth

re: #296 Iron Fist

re: #262 godfrey,


Muslims have a special exemption. It's like when they yell "Death to America!". No one is supposed to notice.

[/not sarc. I wish it were]

Actually, when they yell "Death to America!", Western 'progressives' see nothing wrong with that idea.

They don't really mean "death to America." It's just Bush's cowboy imperialism that they are wishing symbolic death upon.
/ ingnoring the same "Death to America" chants from the same people back in the 90s, 80s, 70s,...

336 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:47:04am

re: #330 akak

What? Where? Who said?

337 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:47:05am

re: #311 BabbaZee

re: #304 MrMom

ahhhahaa

No ...his first love was a girl named Grace, and I look like her to him is all...


Gotcha. Had to ask though. :^)

338 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:47:37am
339 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:47:39am

re: #333 storagemanager

re: #319 MandyManners


re: #312 storagemanager

Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.

Start at page one and go all the way to page three.


What the heck was that?

Did you read the messages?

340 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:47:47am

re: #331 BabbaZee

re: #322 wahabicorridor

it's all about the sanguine lol

4. bloody; sanguinary.

341 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:48:15am

re: #330 akak

got link?

342 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:49:27am

re: #286 realwest

I was thinking about going to South Carolina to tour the aircraft carrier they have there, we'll see how far it is.

I did that "What's the big deal" thing once, but my wife now goes along on these things if only just to humor me. I've spent countless hours with her doing her stuff, I always have fun with it.

My brother-in-law is a Naval LT Commander (retired). If I went on one of those tours with him, he prolly start giving orders to get the ship underway.

Someday, I'll get to Hawaii, and I'll have to do some fishing.

343 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:50:00am

re: #339 MandyManners

re: #333 storagemanager


re: #319 MandyManners

re: #312 storagemanager
Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.

Start at page one and go all the way to page three.


What the heck was that?

Did you read the messages?


I did.

344 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:50:26am

another reason I can't stand walmart

345 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:50:47am

re: #343 storagemanager

I'm still shaking my head.

346 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:50:47am

re: #335 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #324 Kenneth

re: #296 Iron Fist

re: #262 godfrey,


Muslims have a special exemption. It's like when they yell "Death to America!". No one is supposed to notice.

[/not sarc. I wish it were]

Actually, when they yell "Death to America!", Western 'progressives' see nothing wrong with that idea.

They don't really mean "death to America." It's just Bush's cowboy imperialism that they are wishing symbolic death upon.
/ ingnoring the same "Death to America" chants from the same people back in the 90s, 80s, 70s,...

Just like they don't wish "Death to the Jews," they're just wishing symbolic death to Zionism.

/also ignoring the more unveiled threats from all those protests...no "veil" pun intended.

347 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:51:17am

re: #326 pingjockey

re: #322 wahabicorridor

Problem is faith won't put food in my kids mouths or a roof over their heads. Faith for the soul.

I know. It's going to be very tough for a lot of people. I monitor global food prices as part of my job - we'll be seeing riots by the end of the year in developing/third world countries.

348 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:51:23am

re: #339 MandyManners

re: #333 storagemanager

re: #319 MandyManners

re: #312 storagemanager
Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.

Start at page one and go all the way to page three.


What the heck was that?

Did you read the messages?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Holy crap, Mandy, were'd you find this stuff? LOL!

349 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:51:40am

re: #329 3 wood Mom and I are doing just fine, thanks!
Have you had that torn rotator cuff looked at by a specialist?

350 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:51:56am


BEIJING (AP) - Hollywood director Steven Spielberg's decision to quit the Beijing Olympics over the Darfur crisis is drawing condemnation by China's state-controlled media and a groundswell of criticism from the Chinese public.
Last week, the American director withdrew from his role as an artistic adviser to the opening and closing ceremonies of the Summer Games, accusing China of not doing enough to press for peace in the troubled Sudanese region.

Officially, the Chinese government has not directly criticized Spielberg by name, expressing only "regret" over his decision. But the state-run media and the public have been far less restrained.

In newspaper commentaries and lively Internet forums, they have expressed outrage, scorn and bewilderment that China's Olympics have come under international criticism from Spielberg and others.

A biting front-page editorial Wednesday in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, the Communist Party's official newspaper, blasted Spielberg for his decision.

"A certain Western director was very naive and made an unreasonable move toward the issue of the Beijing Olympics. This is perhaps because of his unique Hollywood characteristics," it said.

Over the weekend, the Guangming Daily, also published by the Communist Party, ran an editorial saying Spielberg "broke his promise to make his contribution to the Beijing Olympics and betrayed the Olympic spirit."

He "is not qualified to blame China because he knows nothing about the great efforts the Chinese government has made on Darfur," it said.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

351 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:52:09am

re: #344 hayseed

another reason I can't stand walmart

The employee should apologize but, that sensitivity training is going a bit too far.

352 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:52:12am
353 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:52:34am

re: #348 Honorary Yooper

re: #339 MandyManners


re: #333 storagemanager

re: #319 MandyManners

re: #312 storagemanager
Don't know if this is news but, it is strange.
Start at page one and go all the way to page three.

What the heck was that?

Did you read the messages?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Holy crap, Mandy, were'd you find this stuff? LOL!

I get around.

354 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:52:48am

re: #318 FrogMarch


Yup, too bad they only last 3 weeks. I have to dig up my Dahlias every year, but they provide months of beauty.

355 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:53:07am

re: #301 pingjockey

re: #250 Dar ul Harb
Thanks Dar. Hey was it Buzz or Neil that punched out the moon landing troofer?

That would be Dr. Aldrin.

("That's one hard left hook by a 72-year old man, one giant smackdown for justice.")

356 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:53:11am

re: #350 storagemanager

Waaah, to the Chicoms.

357 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:54:34am

re: #347 wahabicorridor

Things should be fairly calm over here...everyone's glued to their TV screens over the latest "Government Scandal of the Month." The lefties'll be marching because Monday marks the 22nd year of the "People Power" ouster of Ferdinand Marcos, but nothing too violent unless the RoP decides to strike.

Maybe it's because the Philippines is God's country in a continent of "heathens."

/last sentence was half-sarc

358 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:54:43am

re: #330 akak

WOOHOO

American troops heading to West Bank.

now where did that big ass spotlight go?


WHAT?!

359 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:55:34am

re: #355 Dar ul Harb

That was damn funny. The loon asked Buzz why or if the landings were faked. SMACK! LOL. We blew up an Al K leader in Pakistan and the libs are in a tizzy. Used a predator drone. I laugh as he is on his way to his 72 raisins.

360 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:55:39am

re: #330 akak

WOOHOO

American troops heading to West Bank.

now where did that big ass spotlight go?

Don't be a tease! SHARE!

361 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:55:53am

re: #319 MandyManners

Oh, my gosh, Bill Cosby's head. HAHAHA

That is truly hideous! I have neighbors who do their front yard for every holiday, but the yard is small, and has a chain link fence around it. Their Christmas lights are truly a sight to behold. Thank God, they haven't thought about using mannequins yet. =)

Thanks for the laugh this morning, I needed it!

362 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:56:05am

re: #305 3 wood


That's the ship I was thinking about, maybe we can get there this summer.

Too bad for all your nasty weather, I haven't had to use my Snowblower yet this year. We've been getting lots of rain though.

363 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:57:11am
By Their Metaphors Shall Ye Know Them

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:57:16am

re: #325 realwest

re: #295 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yeppers - me too. Don't need to be reminded, but it is nice to see
reminders of those who came before us and made it possible for America
to keep on being Free.

I'm lucky that there's a good amount of military history within an hours drive of where I live - The Helicopter Museum, Air Victory Museum, The Delaware Valley Historic Aircraft Association, The U.S.S. New Jersey, the U.S.S. Olympia, I even live nearby where the Battles of Germantown & Brandywine were fought.

365 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:57:32am

re: #355 Dar ul Harb

re: #301 pingjockey


re: #250 Dar ul Harb
Thanks Dar. Hey was it Buzz or Neil that punched out the moon landing troofer?

That would be Dr. Aldrin.

("That's one hard left hook by a 72-year old man, one giant smackdown for justice.")

I felt that punch.

366 akak  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:57:40am

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

too bad it's multinational instead of just US force. At least it's Nato instead of UN.

367 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:57:47am

re: #363 storagemanager

Islam as a vehicle of Arab supremacism.

Awesome article.

368 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:04am

re: #334 WriterMom

re: #330 akak

There are special spot lights for asses? Cool.

Many of them will be shining this Sunday at the Oscars.

369 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:07am

re: #358 wahabicorridor

This is the latest I could find...

The United States is reviewing the feasibility of deploying a NATO force in the West Bank as a way to ease IDF security concerns and facilitate an Israeli withdrawal from the area within the coming years, defense officials have told The Jerusalem Post.

The plan, which is being spearheaded by US Special Envoy to the region Gen. James Jones, is being floated among European countries, which could be asked to contribute troops to a West Bank multinational force.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Uh oh.

370 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:11am

re: #362 Widow'smight
Nice dog. We have a golden too. She thinks she is a lap dog.

371 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #361 gop_patriot

Did you see that they used a white woman's head for Dr. King and painted it brown?

372 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:18am
The word "Kosovar" deserves attention. It is a not an ethnic term, but rather definitionally geographic. "Kosovars" in truth are not "the inhabitants of an area called Kosovar, but rather the Albanian inhabitants of a place called Kosovar." It is clear that the use of the term "Kosovar" and the "new nation" of Kosovo are an attempt by ethnic Albanians not to draw attention to the fact that "Kosovo" is merely a second Albanian state, ripped out of Serbia, and out of Serbian history -- a continuation of what the Ottoman Turks had done over centuries of oppression. That oppression by the Ottoman Turkish (i.e., Muslim) overlords, over time caused some of the locals, that is some of the Serbs, under extreme pressure, to "turn Turk" and become islamized, in order to escape the onerousness of the devshirme (the forced levy of Christian children )and the Jizyah. Those "Bosnians" for example, who are merely local Muslims in a part of historic Serbia, are in fact the descendants of Serbs (just as Pakistani and Indian and Bangladeshi Muslims are clearly the descendants of Hindus, and to a lesser extent other indigenous non-Muslims, such as Buddhists and Jains). Were there a way to appeal to them, and to their own family histories, rightly understood, and if they could see that they, too, or their ancestors, were victims of Islam, perhaps some might jettison that "identity" of Islam and become Serbs again. One celebrated example of someone who was born and lived as a "Muslim" -- in the sense of having that as his assumed identity -- is the film-maker Emir Kusturica, who threw off the crushing lendings of Islam, imposed on his ancestors, and had himself baptized in the Serbian church. Few outside of Serbia appear to have noticed this important and heartening example. More should.

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

373 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:34am

re: #366 akak

At least it's Nato instead of UN.


same - same. sorry.
thanks for the link.

374 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:34am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, Lizards! &#9836 &#9834

Cold here today but there’s plenty of sinshine to brighten and shoo-away winter blues we Canucksicles suffer from time to time.

Oh and CAIR? Kiss my a** you unindicted co-conspiring, sh*t-flinging Dougie hoople-wanking, thin-skinned, snot-nosed, cry-baby a**hats.

Wankers, the lot of ya.

375 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:37am

re: #357 laZardo


Keep your eye on Indonesia. 15000 people hit the streets in January to protest soybean prices.

/no joke

376 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:58:43am

re: #352 BabbaZee Ah yeah, sorta forgot about them.
But my God she could belt out a song - still got a grin on my face from that music - it's still playing in the background, to be followed by

377 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 6:59:38am

re: #364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Gettysburg isn't that far. Neat little town to hang out in too.

378 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:00:02am

re: #359 pingjockey

re: #355 Dar ul Harb

That was damn funny. The loon asked Buzz why or if the landings were faked. SMACK! LOL.

No, I'm certain the reason Buzz let him have it is the troofer called him a coward and a liar.

Fightin' words.

379 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:00:06am

re: #369 laZardo

damn straight uh oh

verily I say unto youse...

380 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:00:21am

re: #366 akak

Damn, beat me to it.

381 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:00:27am

re: #368 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #334 WriterMom

re: #330 akak

There are special spot lights for asses? Cool.

Many of them will be shining this Sunday at the Oscars.

ROFL!

382 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:00:39am

re: #366 akak

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

too bad it's multinational instead of just US force. At least it's Nato instead of UN.

An official close to Barak said the deployment of a multinational force in the West Bank could create operational challenges for the IDF if it decided to respond to Palestinian terror attacks following the withdrawal.

Ya' think!

383 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:02:35am

re: #369 laZardo

Oh. Got it.

It'll never happen.

{Miss Trixie}

384 2senseplain  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:02:56am

re: #256 hayseed
Boy, do those bring back memories(unfortunately or fortunately I've traded them in for cyclamen as the local weather here in Israel doesn't support them, yesterday's storm notwithstanding)! I used to spend half of January and most of February traipsing down to the dryer vent on the south side of a neighbor's house waiting to see them sprout and then standing there admiring them as the one green and living thing for miles, while they lasted. Only thing that kept me semi-sane through grey Cleveland 16 -week Februaries.

385 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:03:25am

re: #370 pingjockey


He's the best dog I've ever seen. Since I don't have any real sons, he's my "furry" son. He loves water and cold weather.

386 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:03:49am

re: #364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey You are indeed luck to live where you do! SO is loppyd - she out here yet? - if you EVER get a chance to tour the USS Consititution ("Old Ironsides") in Boston Harbor, PLEASE DO IT! LOL! She's still on the active duty roster of the Navy and it's Navy personnel who take you on the tour - just a thrill and a half!

387 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:04:08am

re: #377 Widow'smight

I was priveledged enough to be part of the Honor Guard for the burial of a USS Arizona sailor in 1982. Crew of the Arizona have the honor when they pass on to be buried with their shipmates. It was a very, very emotional event. I still get chills and choked up thinking about it. Need to take all of our pointy headed academics over there and make them sit through a service. Maybe then they'd get what this country is all about.

388 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:04:37am

re: #308 wahabicorridor

I've been reading these kinds of stories for 30 years now.

I can not ever recall somebody printing a story that things are going real well, but they love to do "the end is near" stories.

Are we likely to have a recession? Yes.

Is it 1929 all over again? No.

All the the 12 points assume much more economic damage and decline than we are seeing.

For example, housing prices are dropping in some places, in others, not so much. I just sold my late father's house in Florida for a 90% profit.

Don't be stepping out onto the ledge just yet.

389 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:04:38am

re: #369 laZardo

re: #358 wahabicorridor

This is the latest I could find...


The United States is reviewing the feasibility of deploying a NATO force in the West Bank as a way to ease IDF security concerns and facilitate an Israeli withdrawal from the area within the coming years, defense officials have told The Jerusalem Post.

The plan, which is being spearheaded by US Special Envoy to the region Gen. James Jones, is being floated among European countries, which could be asked to contribute troops to a West Bank multinational force.


[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Uh oh.

They should hold tryouts in Sderot.

390 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:05:21am

re: #377 Widow'smight

Gettysburg isn't that far. Neat little town to hang out in too.

My husband is a huge Civil War buff. We thought about retiring there - but those Penna. taxes - yikes!

We were married at Burnside Bridge at Antietum. Thinking about retiring to Shepardstown.

391 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:05:23am

re: #371 MandyManners

re: #361 gop_patriot

Did you see that they used a white woman's head for Dr. King and painted it brown?

Yes! And then reused it for James Brown's! XD

392 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:07am

re: #378 Dar ul Harb

You gotta be kidding. A troofer was asking about WHY the moon landings were faked? Too funny.

393 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:11am

re: #389 sparrowlake
They should make the UN have a session there.

394 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:11am

re: #374 Miss Trixie

%u266A %u266C Good morning, Lizards! %u266C %u266A

Cold here today but there’s plenty of sinshine to brighten and shoo-away winter blues we Canucksicles suffer from time to time.

Oh and CAIR? Kiss my a** you unindicted co-conspiring, sh*t-flinging Dougie hoople-wanking, thin-skinned, snot-nosed, cry-baby a**hats.

Wankers, the lot of ya.

Don't hold back, darlin'!

395 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:31am

P.C froze...must ne Global warming.

396 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:46am

re: #391 gop_patriot

re: #371 MandyManners


re: #361 gop_patriot

Did you see that they used a white woman's head for Dr. King and painted it brown?


Yes! And then reused it for James Brown's! XD

Resourceful!

397 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:47am

re: #387 pingjockey

I think they need to have a "Gitmo exchange Student" day for them. Force them to have a sleepover with these knuckleheads.

398 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:06:50am

re: #375 wahabicorridor

The last major news we got from Indonesia here was Suharto's death. I might check to see if food prices make a blip over the current scandal-slash-soap-opera (something about bribery and a national broadband network).

re: #379 BabbaZee

Give it a few weeks there, the Rapturists will never let us hear it down.

399 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:22am

re: #388 3 wood

Don't be stepping out onto the ledge just yet.

I wish I had your confidence.

But I don't.

400 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:22am

re: #349 realwest

Have you had that torn rotator cuff looked at by a specialist?

Sure thing. To do it up right would take surgery, which at age 50 I'm not going to have. Apparently I've torn it a couple times, the first time probably when I pitched in college, and itis partially healed on it's own.

That is why I'm going to do the non-surgery rehab approach. No knife for me if I can avoid it.

401 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:38am

re: #389 sparrowlake

THAT SUCKS. The whole enchillada sucks. Stupid idea, probably initiated by Ehud "You Can Stand Under Mah Umbrella, Mahmoud" Olmert.

402 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:38am

re: #397 Widow'smight

That is not a bad idea either.

403 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:41am

re: #398 laZardo

oy.

404 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:07:58am

re: #366 akak Uh, no disrespect intended, but that story is a long way from your "US troops headed to West Bank" meme. You sure you don't write for one of the MSM outlets?!

405 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:09:08am

Good Morning Lizards! It's still cold and we have a weather advisory of some sort in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

What are we talking about this morning & How are you-all?

406 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:09:10am

re: #390 wahabicorridor


Pa doesn't tax your retirement like Delaware and other states do. Our sales tax is 6%, income tax is 3%, but our state gas tax is one of the highest in the nation.

You can get a good deal on a house near Gettysburg though.

407 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:10:07am

Pentagonese, we need to shoot it down cause of the toxic fuel.
Real speak, damn, a real live fire exercise on a target like a ICBM.

408 michael.098762001  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:10:21am

More Chavista Anti-Semites.
[Link: www.uruknet.info...]
Anti-Semitism or Anti-Imperialism in Venezuela?
James Suggett with Axis of Logic commentary

409 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:10:25am

re: #403 BabbaZee

Oh shi-

They'll be screaming more about impending atomic conflict though.

410 3 wood  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:10:40am

re: #362 Widow'smight

That's the ship I was thinking about, maybe we can get there this summer.

Plan to spend a full day there.

411 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:11:12am

re: #386 realwest

re: #364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey You are indeed luck to live where you do! SO is loppyd - she out here yet? - if you EVER get a chance to tour the USS Consititution ("Old Ironsides") in Boston Harbor, PLEASE DO IT! LOL! She's still on the active duty roster of the Navy and it's Navy personnel who take you on the tour - just a thrill and a half!

I'll second that. As I recall, there's a also a time of day that they fire a salute with the cannons (perhaps at sunset?)

412 joan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:11:46am

re: #1 Confuzed
Maybe this is the type of "expression" that ought to concern authorities and activists a bit more than the free speech and occasional hyperbole found on internet web logs like LGF?

[Link: www.jta.org...]
Los Angeles JCC attacked with Molotov cocktail

Published: 02/19/2008
A Molotov cocktail was placed or thrown at a Jewish community center in suburban Los Angeles.
No one was injured in Monday's incident at the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus in West Hills, Calif., the Los Angeles Daily News reported.
The incident occurred in the back of the building at about 2 A.M. Monday, according to Paul Goldenberg, the national director of the Secure Community Network, a non-profit organization that works as a security adviser for hundreds of Jewish institutions. The network has been in contact with law enforcement agencies regarding the attack.

It is unclear who was behind the attack, but the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and local police are investigating surveillance tapes, Goldenberg said. The FBI also is investigating the incident.

John Fishel, president of the Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles, which is a primary funder of the JCC, told the Daily News the federation agency is very concerned about the attack.

"We take this type of thing very seriously," Fishel said. "Our major concern is for the safety and the security of those who work and frequent the center."

413 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:12:09am

I copied this little "history" sidebar from yet another pro-Castro whitewash. It provides a clear view into the wierd warped mind of 'progressive journalism'. Note the use of curious verbs to describe how these dictators siezed & held on to power. I have added in brackets, the ideological affiliations of the dictators.

World's longest-serving* leaders**
A look at the world's longest-serving leaders, excluding monarchies:

President Fidel Castro of Cuba rose to power Jan. 1, 1959. Aged 81 and suffering health problems, Castro says he will not accept a new term when parliament meets Sunday. (Commuinist)

Omar Bongo ascended to Gabon's presidency Dec. 2, 1967, after his predecessor's death. In his 70s, Bongo faces little political opposition in oil-rich West African nation of 1.5 million. (Socialist, Muslim)

Moammar Gadhafi of Libya took power through a Sept. 1, 1969, military coup in the oil-producing North African nation of 6 million people. In his 60s. (Islamist, Socialist)

Maldives President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom, in his late 60s, came to power Nov. 11, 1978, in the Indian Ocean island nation of 370,000. (Islamist)

Teodoro Obiang of Equatorial Guinea, in his mid-60s, seized power in the oil-producing West African nation of 500,000 citizens in Aug. 3, 1979, coup. (Tribal chauvanist)

Angola's Jose Eduardo dos Santos took power Sept. 21, 1979, after winning election under one-party system then governing the oil-producing southern Africa nation of 12 million. In his 60s. (Communist)

Robert Mugabe has been only leader of Zimbabwe's 12 million people since April 18, 1980, independence from Britain. In his 80s.
Associated Press

(Communist)

* Dictators do not "serve", they force whole countries to serve them.
** Dictators are not "leaders". They are rulers.

414 Lively  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:12:29am

re: #400 3 wood

re: #349 realwest


Have you had that torn rotator cuff looked at by a specialist?

Sure thing. To do it up right would take surgery, which at age 50 I'm not going to have. Apparently I've torn it a couple times, the first time probably when I pitched in college, and itis partially healed on it's own.

That is why I'm going to do the non-surgery rehab approach. No knife for me if I can avoid it.

Smart move. I think medicine peaked a few years ago.

I tell my kids, you know when you go thru Burger King and you say NO pickles, then you get your burger and there's pickles. Well, doctors are just human and they make mistakes too. Best to avoid the knife when you can.
/IMHO

415 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:12:35am
416 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:12:36am

re: #407 pingjockey

Pentagonese, we need to shoot it down cause of the toxic fuel.
Real speak, damn, a real live fire exercise on a target like a ICBM.

Been there, done that.

417 Lively  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:14:05am

re: #412 joan

If this were done at a mosque, there would be people crying on TV right now. It will largely go unnoticed by the general public (but not by the lizards).

418 Widow'smight  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:14:52am

re: #410 3 wood

I'm sure we'll find plenty to do, as long as there's food and shopping, the princesses will be fine.

419 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:14:58am

re: #400 3 wood

rotator cuff surgery is routine these days -- outpatient surgery with 6-12 weeks of rehab. I've known several people who've had it done and are very happy they did.

Of course, they always recommened PT first.

Have shoulder problems myself -- been thru it several times.

Have fun with those pulleys ;)

420 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:14:59am

Fear the lizard

421 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:15:29am

This is really sickening. Gateway Pundit notes a bunch of sites picking up the CAIR press release, including Fox Business.

I emailed to let them know my displeasure with them.

Go to the link and rate it as "Horrible" (one star) and email them to let them know what you think.

Be nice, of course.

422 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:15:34am

re: #413 Kenneth

Omar Bongo!?!
Dayum!
Inayat Bunglawala, baybah!

Thanks for that post - very edifying

423 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:15:42am
424 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:16:34am

WA State solves global warming.

Mandates 25,000 green collar jobs.

425 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:16:40am

re: #364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #325 realwest

re: #295 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yeppers - me too. Don't need to be reminded, but it is nice to see
reminders of those who came before us and made it possible for America
to keep on being Free.

I'm lucky that there's a good amount of military history within an hours drive of where I live - The Helicopter Museum, Air Victory Museum, The Delaware Valley Historic Aircraft Association, The U.S.S. New Jersey, the U.S.S. Olympia, I even live nearby where the Battles of Germantown & Brandywine were fought.

Given that you're in the Southern Jersey/Philly area, you'd also be within an hour's drive (or so) of Valley Forge, Battle of Trenton, and Washington's Crossing (among others). And if you extend out to two hours, you could even find yourself at the Intrepid when it reopens for Veteran's Day in November. :)

426 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:17:29am

re: #423 MandyManners

What. The.

/sees the leftie vultures hovering regardless of whether he actually did that

427 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:17:46am

Lance got a new job --is that why he isn't hear. It just isn't a DT without Lance.

428 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:17:58am

re: #407 pingjockey

Pentagonese, we need to shoot it down cause of the toxic fuel.
Real speak, damn, a real live fire exercise on a target like a ICBM.

heh. you got that right. About 3 weeks ago someone was saying they weren't going to shot it down because instead of one big piece they'd end up with a bunch of little pieces and who knows where they'd end up?

429 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:18:40am

re: #405 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! It's still cold and we have a weather advisory of some sort in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

What are we talking about this morning & How are you-all?

None too bad. We got about 1/4 inch of snow in the SW-South 'burbs, and a fair number of accidents clooging up the expressways. Idiots need to learn how to drive.

430 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:19:30am

re: #366 akak

I wouldn't worry too much about NATO countries actually agreeing to send troops to the West Bank. They haven't agreed to send enough troops to Afghanistan. Which countries would actually send the troops?

431 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:19:36am

re: #426 laZardo

re: #423 MandyManners

What. The.

/sees the leftie vultures hovering regardless of whether he actually did that

What's his former job got to do with it?!

432 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:19:43am

re: #423 MandyManners

Truly awful.

Shoot his dick off ¼ inch at a time. Then put his balls in a vise and slowly tighten it.

And that's just to start.

433 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:19:45am
434 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:19:49am

re: #416 JCM
Yep. This is a good test. They've upgraded the SM-2 to the SM-3 and the Aegis radar is awesome. They had a fix to shoot down MRBMs, like the Scud, but a for real ICBM is a different cat. This is a good test. The re-entry vehicle for an ICBM is going at orbital velocity when it enters the atmosphere. Trying to hit a very fast bullet with a slower one.

435 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:20:07am

It was odd listening to Obama's victory speech last night and thinking--Obama's channeling Fidel's phony promises of free everything if you'll only bring on the Revolucion, circa 1959.

Houston, we've got a problem if Texans go gaga over Fidel's phony talkingpoints.

American left, have you no shame?

436 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:20:08am

re: #386 realwest

She's a real beauty.

Being in the NYC metro area, we've got a couple of lovely ladies worth visiting:

The USS Ling in Hackensack, NJ (a WWII sub) and of course, my personal favorite, the USS Intrepid (which will be reopening to visitors in November for Veterans' Day).

437 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:21:51am

re: #432 JCM

Ouch. I'm a woman but I'm squirming.

438 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:04am
439 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:13am

re: #425 lawhawk

re: #364 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #325 realwest

re: #295 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yeppers - me too. Don't need to be reminded, but it is nice to see
reminders of those who came before us and made it possible for America
to keep on being Free.

I'm lucky that there's a good amount of military history within an hours drive of where I live - The Helicopter Museum, Air Victory Museum, The Delaware Valley Historic Aircraft Association, The U.S.S. New Jersey, the U.S.S. Olympia, I even live nearby where the Battles of Germantown & Brandywine were fought.

Given that you're in the Southern Jersey/Philly area, you'd also be within an hour's drive (or so) of Valley Forge, Battle of Trenton, and Washington's Crossing (among others). And if you extend out to two hours, you could even find yourself at the Intrepid when it reopens for Veteran's Day in November. :)

I live close to the location of the Pig War and the Keyport Undersea Warfare Museum.

440 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:16am

re: #427 ggt

Lance got a new job --is that why he isn't hear. It just isn't a DT without Lance.


Great news! Same kind of business?

441 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:40am

re: #429 Honorary Yooper

yeah, we got about the same amount of snow. Just enough to cover the ice patches on the ground. People think it's snow and get so suprised with they slide around.

Sun's out tho.

442 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #437 MandyManners

re: #432 JCM

Ouch. I'm a woman but I'm squirming.

For a [deleted] like that I consider that merciful.

443 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #424 JCM

Goddamn west side nitwits. You all see the shit we put up with here.
The I-5 corridor is liberal as hell and has all the population. The rest of us are dealing with little or no representation in state gov't.

444 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:23:16am

Change!

445 2senseplain  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:23:19am

re: #366 akak

Very, very bad. Doesn't matter who. Never, ever hand over responsiblity for our own security. Unfortunately our goverment is just stupid enough that they might go along with this although from the article, at least somebody is asking the obvious questions.

446 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:23:32am

re: #427 ggt Lance got a new job? WOOT! That's great news!

447 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:23:47am

re: #431 MandyManners

If he's guilty, let him get the #432 treatment because what he did is not alright.

I'm just saying though that some of the more extreme peaceniks could try to seize on that to further their agenda.

448 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:24:04am

re: #400 3 wood

Sure thing. To do it up right would take surgery, which at age 50 I'm not going to have.

I don't know what that type of surgery entails, but age 50 is very young yet!

My grandmother fell and shattered her cheekbone when she was 90. The doctors told her that it would heal on it's own and she'd be fine, etc., etc., but her cheek would be sunken in a little bit. She said, "Well, FIX IT THEN. I don't want to go around looking like that if I don't have to." LOL The doctor said that he just assumed she'd rather not go through surgery at her age, and she looked at him like he was crazy. It honestly never occurred to her that it was unusual for a 90 year old woman to expect the same reconstructive surgery that they would have immediately offered a 20 year old woman.

/not that you're saying you're too old for surgery! Your story just reminded me of sitting in that doctor's office with my grandmother. Ah, the look on the physician's face. :)

449 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:24:17am

re: #443 pingjockey

re: #424 JCM

Goddamn west side nitwits. You all see the shit we put up with here.
The I-5 corridor is liberal as hell and has all the population. The rest of us are dealing with little or no representation in state gov't.

I'm trying to hold out on the Dry Side, but some days, I just want to drive down to Olympia with a truck load of tar and feathers.

450 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:24:19am

re: #425 lawhawk

Cool, I didn't realize that the Intrepid is reopening so soon!

451 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:24:54am

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

452 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:25:25am
He claimed that, for the first time, Teheran had established a command and control center to work on a nuclear bomb and that southeast of the capital it was also setting up a center to produce warheads.

Iran has steadfastly denied it is working to obtain a nuclear bomb, arguing that its nuclear program is purely civilian. In December, the US National Intelligence Estimate said that Iran halted a nuclear weapons development program in 2003 because of international pressure

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

453 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:25:37am

re: #447 laZardo

If he were a former baker, would that be in the headline?

454 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:25:40am
455 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:25:50am

re: #431 MandyManners

re: #426 laZardo


re: #423 MandyManners

What. The.

/sees the leftie vultures hovering regardless of whether he actually did that


What's his former job got to do with it?!

Nothing if he's a former Clinton campaign advisor. Everything if he's a former soldier.
/msm rats

456 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:25:53am

re: #449 JCM
Yep, I am in Wenatchee and called my reps office about the electoral college crap.

457 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:26:15am

re: #427 ggt

Lance got a new job --is that why he isn't hear. It just isn't a DT without Lance.

Congrats, Lance!

458 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:26:33am

re: #440 wahabicorridor

No idea, but I think so. He was on last night and said he started yesterday. He seemed happy enough about it.

459 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:26:39am

re: #447 laZardo

re: #431 MandyManners

If he's guilty, let him get the #432 treatment because what he did is not alright.

I'm just saying though that some of the more extreme peaceniks could try to seize on that to further their agenda.

NYSlimes tried with their "murdering" GI article while back.

460 gonecamping  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:26:53am

re: #407 pingjockey

Ssh,

That was really a decoy sent up for target practice.

461 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:27:33am

re: #422 BabbaZee

You're welcome. You would be particularily interested in this character,

Maldives President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom -educated at Al-Azhar University in Egypt, in Arabic, & Sharia and Civil Law. Joined the Muslim Brotherhood,

"Maumoon regarded it as a privilege to be able to hear Sayyed Qutb".

The Maldives are a base of operations for Al Qaeda & other associated Islamists.

462 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:27:36am

OK, so I've caught up a bit on the CAIR situation... I'm sure Michael Savage would be very interested in this situation as well...

I see that they are trying to full court press Charles and 'right wing hate comments'. Well, for the moment, we still have freedom of speech. We can technically say whatever we want. Some people want to be idiotic and talk about violence (which they would never carry out BTW), that's their thing. They have to assume the responsibility for putting crap like that out there...

For CAIR to try and drum this up show their level of desperation. They wish for a free thinking society like ours to basically toe the line when it comes to being PC... We will stand up to you. We will fight you. You will not tell us what is sacro-sanct. We will not be silenced...

You do realize, of course, a Dem in power would potentially shut us down... Think about that...

463 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:27:46am

re: #456 pingjockey

re: #449 JCM
Yep, I am in Wenatchee and called my reps office about the electoral college crap.

I need to do that to. Although I think they have my email address flagged.

464 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:27:56am

re: #460 gonecamping

What ever works.

465 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:28:04am

re: #455 MrMom

I well remember the media coverage during the 70s/80s/90s whenever a Vietnam veteran did anything bad.

466 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:28:08am

re: #458 ggt

re: #440 wahabicorridor

No idea, but I think so. He was on last night and said he started yesterday. He seemed happy enough about it.

There's nothing like a job and earning money to make one feel much better about oneseflf. This is why tax cuts that create jobs work and welfare fails.

467 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:28:19am

re: #450 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #425 lawhawk

Cool, I didn't realize that the Intrepid is reopening so soon!

It's scheduled to reopen November 11, 2008. There's a countdown clock on the museum entrance building. I can't wait for them to bring the ship back from its current berth on SI where it has been rehabbed and new space provided. I miss driving past it on the West Side.

468 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:28:39am

re: #438 BabbaZee

American left, have you no shame?


* * *
Babba, I thought you might link to "Pa' Cuba Voy" ("Going to Cuba"), if there really is such a song, as Obama's new anthem!

But if he doesn't know the difference between Siesta and Fiesta...he'll have to use the Soviet's "Internationale" song...

So much for proud Texans, now sitting around rooting for someone who promises handouts & dependence instead of opportunity and freedom.

469 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:28:51am

re: #436 lawhawkOh yeah! As I said above, I've spent over a hundred hours on the Intrepid. Helped out a friend who won the CMH set up a gallery/slide show about Medal of Honor recipients and of course did the full boogey tour several times after she was open to the Public - great Aerospace Museum, too - got to walk around the SR-71 Blackbird - walked around - waaay around (LOL!) a Vietnam ere Huey, etc. etc.
GREAT damn museum. Thank you Fisher brothers.

470 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:02am

re: #463 JCM
Have you been naughty? They won't read your e-mails?

471 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:05am

Mark Steyn:

What does it mean when 57 per cent of Pakistani Britons are married to first cousins and 70 per cent are married to relatives? At the very least, it tells you that this community is strongly resistant to traditional immigrant assimilation patterns. Of course, in any society, certain groups are self-segregating: the Amish, the Mennonites and whatnot. But when that group is not merely a curiosity on the fringe of the map but the principal source of population growth in all your major cities, the challenge posed by that self-segregation is of a different order.

Wow. 57 percent?

472 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:11am

re: #465 MandyManners

re: #455 MrMom

I well remember the media coverage during the 70s/80s/90s whenever a Vietnam veteran did anything bad.

Stolen Valor.

473 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:21am

re: #438 BabbaZee

American left, have you no shame?

LOL! What a blast from the past.
/made my day.

474 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:47am

re: #467 lawhawk

re: #450 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #425 lawhawk

Cool, I didn't realize that the Intrepid is reopening so soon!

It's scheduled to reopen November 11, 2008.
There's a countdown clock on the museum entrance building. I can't wait
for them to bring the ship back from its current berth on SI where it
has been rehabbed and new space provided. I miss driving past it on the
West Side.

Is she going back to her old location? Any new aircraft calling her home?

475 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:50am

re: #466 Honorary Yooper

Got to agree with you on that one!

Now if the government didn't think it had a right to my paycheck . . .

476 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:29:59am

re: #464 pingjockey

re: #460 gonecamping

What ever works.

It must have been faked, the Cape Cod Orca said "Star Wars" would never work.
/

477 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:30:47am

re: #468 alegrias

re: #438 BabbaZee

American left, have you no shame?


* * *
Babba, I thought you might link to "Pa' Cuba Voy" ("Going to Cuba"), if there really is such a song, as Obama's new anthem!

But if he doesn't know the difference between Siesta and Fiesta...he'll have to use the Soviet's "Internationale" song...
.

Is a siesta fiesta a slumber party?

478 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:30:57am

re: #472 JCM

re: #465 MandyManners


re: #455 MrMom

I well remember the media coverage during the 70s/80s/90s whenever a Vietnam veteran did anything bad.


Stolen Valor.

I hope we've learned.

479 bosforus  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:31:01am

Not sure if this story was pickup up here at LGF but...
Islamic Law Applied to US Courts

480 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:31:22am

re: #476 JCM

re: #464 pingjockey

re: #460 gonecamping

What ever works.

It must have been faked, the Cape Cod Orca said "Star Wars" would never work.
/

No one thought Star Wars would work, but after 30 years, it's one of the most popular movires of all time!
/

481 bosforus  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:31:36am

re: #479 bosforus

Not sure if this story was pickup up here at LGF but...
Islamic Law Applied to US Courts

errr...picked up

482 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:31:43am

re: #473 MrMom

re: #438 BabbaZee

American left, have you no shame?

LOL! What a blast from the past.
/made my day.

HFS. I should come to open threads more often.

483 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:31:48am

re: #461 Kenneth

Sayyed Qutb

oh yea
that interests me
thanks

484 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:32:42am

re: #476 JCM

Oh yes. Reagan was a doddering old fool and scientists didn't know shit. Well guess what, there is a ton a spinoffs from SDI research that are being used right now. Plus it bankrupted the USSR.

485 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:32:51am

re: #451 David Simon

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?

I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

486 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:33:17am

re: #293 realwest

been on the phone, sorry for the delay.

the mini-wheats are all off at school, and mama-wheat is busy counting beans and doing taxes once again.

how're you doing?

487 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:33:22am

re: #468 alegrias

Nope I am sticking with this as the Obamanable Snowjobman anthem for now, lol

488 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:33:25am

Sen. Larry (Wide Stance) Craig files with the court:
Motion for enlarged brief

489 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:33:25am

re: #421 JammieWearingFool

Yes, and when we email them, we should remind them of what Charles said about "PR Newswire" -

UPDATE at 2/19/08 5:38:08 pm:

Another important note: this CAIR press release is not a news story from the wires, although it’s not obvious at Yahoo News—it shows up in a news search for ‘CAIR’, for example. But it’s not from a news wire—it’s from a company called PRNewsWire, a very expensive paid press release service with wide distribution. That’s why CAIR always uses it for their smear jobs—and their Saudi funding pays for a lot of smear.

Of course the folks at Fox probably know that, being in the media- I'm sure they know a authentic newswire service from a paid propaganda company. Then again...

490 bosforus  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #488 JCM

Sen. Larry (Wide Stance) Craig files with the court:
Motion for enlarged brief


enlarged brief? Is that anything like granny pants?

491 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:34:31am

re: #473 MrMom

I loved that record.
This one too

492 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:34:54am

re: #477 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

* * *
In free spanish speaking countries, what you do during your siesta is your business!

If you want to fiesta during your siesta, it's probably verboten in Cuba and mohammedan countries.

There's no fun in totalitarian ideology~!

493 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:34:57am

re: #465 MandyManners

re: #455 MrMom

I well remember the media coverage during the 70s/80s/90s whenever a Vietnam veteran did anything bad.

That's right. And the IDIOT reporters from back then are the "wise, old mentors" of this generation of media drones.

494 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:35:25am

re: #485 Cognito

re: #451 David Simon

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?

I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

They, like lots of other news outlets (Yahoo! Finance, for example) run PRNewswire press releases.

495 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:35:28am

re: #489 gop_patriot

PIMF... 'a' should be 'an'.

An authentic newswire, ugh.

496 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:05am

re: #462 tfc3rid Good morning to you! "They have to assume the responsibility for putting crap like that out there..."
Uh, no actually. It's Charles who's gonna get the phone call(s) from the FBI (he said he's already had two a couple years back when Rayra really went off the rails) and it's a damn shame that some folks out here can't shut the bleep up out here. Free Speech is Wonderful, but if you're gonna spout the kinda crap that Charles deleted looong before he knew about CAIR, you shouldn't have the privilige of posting out here! (the you here doesn't mean you tfc3rid!).

497 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:08am

re: #474 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #467 lawhawk

re: #450 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #425 lawhawk

Cool, I didn't realize that the Intrepid is reopening so soon!

It's scheduled to reopen November 11, 2008.
There's a countdown clock on the museum entrance building. I can't wait
for them to bring the ship back from its current berth on SI where it
has been rehabbed and new space provided. I miss driving past it on the
West Side.

Is she going back to her old location? Any new aircraft calling her home?

Yup. Back to Pier 86. They're finishing up refurbishing and rebuilding the entire pier and the Fighting I will be sailing back to the Pier in September. I think they're going to have one or two new planes, but a few are getting spiffed up with new/revised paint schemes.

498 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:14am

re: #491 BabbaZee

"record"?

Babba, you are dating yourself :)

Of course, I knew what you meant --so where does that leave me?

499 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:20am

re: #492 alegrias

There's no fun in totalitarian ideology~!

Stan hates to be mocked...

500 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:40am

re: #465 MandyManners Yeah, me too.

501 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:45am

re: #494 Ward Cleaver

re: #485 Cognito

re: #451 David Simon

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?

I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

They, like lots of other news outlets (Yahoo! Finance, for example) run PRNewswire press releases.

Yes, I just haven't seen it pop up on any mainstream media outlets.

502 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:36:48am

re: #489 gop_patriot

re: #421 JammieWearingFool

Yes, and when we email them, we should remind them of what Charles said about "PR Newswire" -

UPDATE at 2/19/08 5:38:08 pm:

Another important note: this CAIR press release is not a news story from the wires, although it’s not obvious at Yahoo News—it shows up in a news search for ‘CAIR’, for example. But it’s not from a news wire—it’s from a company called PRNewsWire, a very expensive paid press release service with wide distribution. That’s why CAIR always uses it for their smear jobs—and their Saudi funding pays for a lot of smear.

Of course the folks at Fox probably know that, being in the media- I'm sure they know a authentic newswire service from a paid propaganda company. Then again...

Basically, anyone who wants to shell out the subscription fees and press release fees can run just about whatever they want, and it will get published somewhere.

503 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:37:35am

CAIR=Complete Idiots and Evil.

504 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:37:45am
505 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:37:47am

re: #489 gop_patriot

re: #421 JammieWearingFool

Yes, and when we email them, we should remind them of what Charles said about "PR Newswire" -

UPDATE at 2/19/08 5:38:08 pm:

Another important note: this CAIR press release is not a news story from the wires, although it’s not obvious at Yahoo News—it shows up in a news search for ‘CAIR’, for example. But it’s not from a news wire—it’s from a company called PRNewsWire, a very expensive paid press release service with wide distribution. That’s why CAIR always uses it for their smear jobs—and their Saudi funding pays for a lot of smear.

Of course the folks at Fox probably know that, being in the media- I'm sure they know a authentic newswire service from a paid propaganda company. Then again...

Also not to be forgotten is the fact that the comments are not Charles' but rather individual posters. Here's Charles statement on posting privileges:

* Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
* Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.
* Posts that contain phone numbers, addresses, or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
* Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.
* REMEMBER: posting comments at LGF is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and your account will be blocked.

In other words, CAIR engages in a smear campaign for the express purpose of shutting down those who expose CAIR for what it is.

506 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:38:17am

re: #474 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #467 lawhawk

re: #450 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #425 lawhawk

Cool, I didn't realize that the Intrepid is reopening so soon!

It's scheduled to reopen November 11, 2008.
There's a countdown clock on the museum entrance building. I can't wait
for them to bring the ship back from its current berth on SI where it
has been rehabbed and new space provided. I miss driving past it on the
West Side.

Is she going back to her old location? Any new aircraft calling her home?

i loved driving past it too. i remember when they were trying to move it. all those little tug boats just pulling and pulling and nothing was happening for a wk. iirc, it had sunk to far in the mud. i took my nephew there when he 10 yrs. old. we had such a great afternoon.

507 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:38:38am

re: #500 realwest Crap, hit post by mistake = shoulda said "yeah, me too - and if someone said something to provoke you, you couldn't really respond the way you normally would (see, e.g., Buzz Aldrin above) cause you'd just be perpetuating the myth.

508 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:38:44am
509 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:39:17am

re: #496 realwest

It's Charles's house --Free Speech doesn't apply.

Respect!

510 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:39:45am
511 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #485 Cognito

re: #451 David Simon


Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?

I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

See here:

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

512 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:40:04am

re: #484 pingjockey

re: #476 JCM

Oh yes. Reagan was a doddering old fool and scientists didn't know shit. Well guess what, there is a ton a spinoffs from SDI research that are being used right now. Plus it bankrupted the USSR.

* * *
Likewise, I expect good economic fallout from liberating oil-rich Iraq which desperately needs to upgrade to 21st century standards. Imagine what freeing up billions of new consumers for US technology/processes/products will do for trade.

I do not buy MALAISE speeches as they brought our country down in Carter-time.

513 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:40:46am

re: #508 BabbaZee

I noticed something about age, once you get around the half-century mark, you no longer really give a crap about what other people think. In fact, for me if anything, I relish not following the pack.

It's very liberating.

514 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:40:51am

re: #471 wahabicorridor

Mark Steyn:


What does it mean when 57 per cent of Pakistani Britons are married to first cousins and 70 per cent are married to relatives? At the very least, it tells you that this community is strongly resistant to traditional immigrant assimilation patterns. Of course, in any society, certain groups are self-segregating: the Amish, the Mennonites and whatnot. But when that group is not merely a curiosity on the fringe of the map but the principal source of population growth in all your major cities, the challenge posed by that self-segregation is of a different order.



Wow. 57 percent?


I'd be screwed. I got One hot cousin and five brothers!
THUNDERDOME!

515 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:41:54am

re: #511 David Simon

re: #485 Cognito


re: #451 David Simon

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?
I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

See here:

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Bright spot: maybe more readers of that paper will pay attention to the minaret.

516 storagemanager  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:42:18am
WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Barack Obama captured most of the delegates in Wisconsin and Hawaii Tuesday, increasing his lead in the race for the Democratic nomination for president.
Sen. John McCain, meanwhile, moved closer to clinching the Republican nomination.

Obama won at least 55 delegates in the two states, with six still to be awarded. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won at least 33.

In the overall race for the nomination, Obama led with 1,336 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,251.

Hill-Billy tears [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

517 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:42:23am

re: #496 realwest

Thanks realwest... Of course, this is Charles site and he receives the ultimate flak or praise from it... But we commenters, as angry as we get over these types of things, have to take some responsibility and restraint in what we are saying...

518 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:43:12am

re: #501 Cognito

St. Louis Post-Dispatch website...

519 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:43:25am

re: #517 tfc3rid

re: #496 realwest

Thanks realwest... Of course, this is Charles site and he receives the ultimate flak or praise from it... But we commenters, as angry as we get over these types of things, have to take some responsibility and restraint in what we are saying...

Yep. That's the reason why I sometimes get up and take a walk around the yard.

520 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:43:25am

re: #513 BulgarWheat

re: #508 BabbaZee

I noticed something about age, once you get around the half-century mark, you no longer really give a crap about what other people think. In fact, for me if anything, I relish not following the pack.

It's very liberating.

* * *
Nice you can keep up with the pack at all!

521 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:43:41am

re: #482 laZardo

HFS. I should come to open threads more often


They can be a lot of fun!

522 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:44:05am

Depravity Update,

BAGHDAD: The U.S. military said Wednesday that two women used as suicide bombers in attacks against two pet markets in Baghdad earlier this month had undergone psychiatric treatment but there's no indication they had Down syndrome, as Iraqi officials had claimed...

..."Both had recently received psychiatric treatment for depression and/or schizophrenia. From what they know now there's no indication that they had Down syndrome," Smith said.

523 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:44:23am

re: #515 MandyManners

re: #511 David Simon


re: #485 Cognito

re: #451 David Simon

Nice to see so many media outlets dutifully reporting CAIR's propaganda. Too bad the Voelkischer Beobachter is no longer an available resource for them.

Where are you seeing it?
I think FoxBusiness ran something -- anyone else?

See here:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Bright spot: maybe more readers of that paper will pay attention to the minaret.

Yep. I'll put our reputation up against CAIR's any day.

524 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:44:29am

re: #486 BulgarWheat Doing ok, my friend! Gotta a bunch of chores to do today and tomorrow but am succeeding in putting them off for now! LOL!

525 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:44:37am

it's all urban legend says cair

526 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:45:20am

re: #519 MandyManners

No way Mandy, not you?

/

Love ya' Mandy!

527 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:45:31am

Sometimes, I type and then delete what I typed. It helps to relieve my frustration, and I don't have to regret hitting the post button.

528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:45:32am

re: #525 hayseed

it's all urban legend says cair

Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters!

529 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:00am

re: #522 Kenneth

Ah, well then the terrorists aren't as bad as we think they are...

/

530 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:09am

re: #518 tfc3rid

re: #501 Cognito

St. Louis Post-Dispatch website...

Yep, I've just read it. They didn't exactly re-publish the press release, of course; they ran a little story about the whole thing. A pretty straightforward story, for the most part.

Sure, I wish that story wasn't there. But even more than that I wish morons wouldn't come here and post trash about dynamiting people's buildings.

531 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:14am

re: #523 David Simon

Yep. I'll put our reputation up against CAIR's any day.

No unindicted co-conspirators around here!

532 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:20am

re: #498 ggt

I just love it when Babba spins the platters!

533 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:32am

re: #523 David Simon

Yep.

534 musicman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:33am

re: #488 JCM

Sen. Larry (Wide Stance) Craig files with the court:
Motion for enlarged brief

I can just see the snickering now!

535 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:47am

One Fight, One Enemy, One Answer

In Denmark, cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, was thrown out of his hotel; the hotel owner feared the people who threaten the cartoonist will destroy his property and guests.

On the inter-web, an intrepid blogger named Charles Johnson was reported to authorities, because some of the more excitable members of his blog has posted things that gave offense to America's foremost unindicted co-conspirator.

It sickens me that every day Islamic extremist enemies of the US plot away and may one day commit a mass casualty act of terrorism here with their job made a little easier by an umbrella of lies and denials by Ibrahim Hooper and CAIR.

Some of the comments that CAIR disliked at LGF were offensive.

SO WHAT! The last time I read the U.S. Constitution, we specifically have the ABSOLUTE right to be just as offensive as we wish. And I am equally certain that if I suddenly lost my mind, suddenly began making inquiries to other LGFers to commit some kind of anti-Islamic violence somewhere I would be turned over to the authorities, probably the first person I asked. The reason for that the great truth people here, out of the enormous membership of this blog, there are simply no ongoing criminal conspiracies, and never will be; there is, not just respect for the American system of governance, but reverence for it. CAIR uses our system of law to abridge our freedoms in liberty's name while they covertly seek our overthrow, this is an intellectual war crime of monumental proportions.

In the LGF membership lives an unstinting desire to defend our right to say whatever we want to whoever we want whenever we want within the bounds of the law. Hooper does not believe we should have that right and has stepped over a very big line: to falsely and knowingly accuse others of committing a crime, all in an attempt to stifle free expression; he will be resisted with every fiber of our being, every resource in our hands, with a passion and energy that will be terrible to behold. This blog has presided over the breaking, Dan Rather, the New Republic, Reuters and many others. No one on this blog is going to back down, least of all a certain Charles Johnson.

It is vital that we put Hooper's attempt to abridge our free speech in its proper context. His organization is a false front of an international conspiracy founded by an organization that has murdered many Americans, that aims to destroy this country, our system of law, freedom of religion, and free expression in this country, and to replace it with the most unforgiving and hardbound interpretation of a religion whose followers suffer endlessly by the hundreds of millions all over th world from the oppression, ignorance and poverty that is the direct product of a failed unadaptive 1400 year old system which countenances female genital mutilation, unequal rights for women, second-class citizenship for nonbelievers and, yes, slavery. In the Islamic paradise of Gaza, Hooper's parent organization, Hamas has the resources to launch rockets into Israel but not to protect a tiny Christian minority whose YMCA library was destroyed Hamas did nothing.

CAIR is religously indistinguishable from the people making the death threats that evicted Kurt Westergaard, Hooper is as opposed to the cartoonists' rights as ours.

Our brother cartoonist fears for his life, but we are with them. Just understand Hooper, it is not us on trial, it is CAIR; you cannot stand the light of day. Westergaard's fight to live is our fight to speak. CAIR's ideology is the enemy in Denmark and the enemy here. Our answer CAIR should paraphrase Churchill: we will fight you on the net will fight you in the papers, will fight you on the air, we will never surrender.

Enjoy the retrial in August, the stakes just went up.

536 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:46:58am

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hah! I was thinking that too. The Lizard Nation cairbusters.

537 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:01am

re: #522 Kenneth

Depravity Update,


BAGHDAD: The U.S. military said Wednesday that two women used as suicide bombers in attacks against two pet markets in Baghdad earlier this month had undergone psychiatric treatment but there's no indication they had Down syndrome, as Iraqi officials had claimed...
..."Both had recently received psychiatric treatment for depression and/or schizophrenia. From what they know now there's no indication that they had Down syndrome," Smith said.


* * *
Being depressed is known as being down.
Using people with illness to foment terror, as that jihadist hospital employee did, after having his boss murdered, is still monstrous.
Is there no Hypocratic oath is Islam?

538 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:10am

re: #526 tfc3rid

Just imagine how much sweetness and light I'd spread if I didn't take a walk.

539 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:30am

re: #491 BabbaZee

re: #473 MrMom

I loved that record.
This one too


Oh MY! You've got to be near my age. Only those of us in a distinct age group would know and appreciate some of this stuff. Heh.

540 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:38am
541 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:40am

re: #537 alegrias

They have a hypocritic oath, does that count?

542 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:47:51am

re: #530 Cognito

Agreed... But you know what, how is what was said on that post much different than what we see at Kos or HuffPo?

It doesn't mean it is ok... But still...

543 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:48:15am

re: #534 musicman

you're going to want a wide stance with those enlarged briefs.

544 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:48:33am

re: #529 tfc3rid

I don't think the report suggests the terrorists are any less depraved.

545 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:49:03am

re: #537 alegrias

Nope that oath is western thought and not in the koran, so it is RIGHT OUT!

546 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:49:34am

re: #538 MandyManners

Sweet like sugar!

547 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:04am

re: #517 tfc3ridABSOLUTELY - that's what I was trying to say!
It's Charles House - we only get to play here if we follow his rules. It's just unfortunate that if we don't play by his rules, HE gets the damn phone calls from the FBI.

548 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:13am

re: #544 Kenneth

I had the sarc tag there...

549 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:16am

re: #542 tfc3rid

re: #530 Cognito

Agreed... But you know what, how is what was said on that post much different than what we see at Kos or HuffPo?

It doesn't mean it is ok... But still...

I get what yer saying, but it doesn't really work like that. We're all responsible for ourselves.

550 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:20am

Blatant Linky Pimping:

Did you see my link about the Marine Gold Star Mom slamming the Berkely City Council.

It's worth watching twice!

551 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:24am

{realwest} Good morning, sweetie! *smoooch* Can’t post much today as I’m up to my a** in alligators and the Crisis Chick is setting herself up for another three-day long weekend. *rolls eyes*

{wahibbi} Morning, darls. *mwah*

552 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:30am

re: #541 laZardo

re: #537 alegrias

They have a hypocritic oath, does that count?

* * *
You are on the front lines against jihadis in the Philippines, my friend, guess you know the answer.

553 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:39am

re: #513 BulgarWheat

It's very liberating.

Ain't it tho?

I'll be 56 in April. I can get away with so much more. The expectations are a lot lower.

lol!

554 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:50:58am

re: #540 ploome hineni

and if they were marrying British women? who were converting?

or British men converting in order to marry a Pakistan woman?

/find a pony!

Some Pakistani/Indian women are quite breathtaking.
'Course I wouldn't convert for one, not while we Catholics can take our pick from the whole of South America, Italy, Spain, the good parts of Ireland,...

555 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:02am

re: #547 realwest

And gets his site slandered in a 'Press Release'...

556 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:16am

re: #548 tfc3rid

I often miss that. No problem.

557 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:35am

re: #549 Cognito

I know... And yes, we all should be responsible for ourselves...

558 loppyd  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:46am

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

Busy day so far at the mill.

Is it a full moon?

559 n in wi  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:47am

re: #499 BabbaZee

Was that Algore?

560 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:51:49am

re: #531 MandyManners

well I did get a ticket for drinking a beer within 15 feet of the parking lot at the park.lol

561 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:52:23am

re: #558 loppyd
Why yes it is!

562 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:52:36am

re: #546 tfc3rid

re: #538 MandyManners

Sweet like sugar!

And, twice as gritty.

563 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:52:46am

re: #552 alegrias

Forgot to add the "/rhetorical" tag at the end, lol.

564 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:52:53am

re: #527 ggt

Sometimes, I type and then delete what I typed. It helps to relieve my frustration, and I don't have to regret hitting the post button.

i do that to. and also if i think i've gone over the line, well, i assume i have, and i delete it. (self censorship is good)

565 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:53:06am

re: #538 MandyManners

re: #526 tfc3rid

Just imagine how much sweetness and light I'd spread if I didn't take a walk.

LOL! HA

566 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:53:07am

re: #551 Miss Trixie

the Crisis Chick

I had one of those to manage once upon a time. So I made sure she had so many crises she never bothered me!

567 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:53:17am

re: #560 hayseed

re: #531 MandyManners

well I did get a ticket for drinking a beer within 15 feet of the parking lot at the park.lol

As long as you didn't litter...

568 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:53:48am

re: #562 MandyManners

Gritty/gutty...

Attractive nonetheless!

569 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:53:52am

re: #565 MrMom

We're all the better for it.

570 ggt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:54:33am

Gotta go folks, there is a Lunar Eclipse tonite!

Have a great day!

571 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:54:37am

re: #535 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Wonderful comment.
Thank you.

572 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:54:47am

re: #568 tfc3rid

Even in my over-sized sweats.

573 loppyd  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:55:14am

re: #561 pingjockey

re: #558 loppyd
Why yes it is!

For real?

574 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:55:17am

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #525 hayseed

it's all urban legend says cair

Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters!

Now don't start on blowing things up again!

575 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:56:03am

re: #572 MandyManners

He he he... Duh!

576 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:57:33am

Crank it up!
LAN ASTASLEM

577 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:57:57am

re: #545 pingjockey

re: #537 alegrias

Nope that oath is western thought and not in the koran, so it is RIGHT OUT!


* * *

You are right, totalitarian doctors such as henchmen Dr. Che. and Dr. Zayman Al Zawahiri definitely believe "FIRST, Do Harm"--not the Greek, "First, Do NO Harm."

They are midwives to maniacal madmen instead of men of medicine.

578 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:58:22am

re: #542 tfc3rid What was said was extremely mild compared to what one can find, without searching hard, for comments about killing Bush (or Cheney or Rumsfeld et.al.) and the horrible ways that the commenters at Kos and Huffpoo especially set out as blueprints for how to do it.
Not excusing the idiots who made those comments, but they were far milder than what gets said every damn day on the Kos, HuffPoo blogs.

579 Daisy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:58:57am

re: #256 hayseed

my snowdrops have been blooming for a couple weeks now

Now that does inspire Hope. I still have thick ice in my driveway (upstate NY) .. but it is melting a bit every day - every new puddle brings a smile to my face :) The Snowdrops are getting ready to emerge .. and then the Crocuses and the Grape Hyacinths and then the Daffodils! Oh boy the daffodils - for several years, each autumn, we plant about 200 daffodils on a gentle hillside in the back yard - the daffodils have multiplied (the way they do) and come out of the woods and down the slope alongside that part of the property and fall into the green grass. I've duplicated something special from my childhood w/this endeavor, and it's become a source of real happiness. This is also my contribution to the environmental movement .. that and the rest of the gardens :) ... lots of perennials.

Have a good day out there Lizards.

580 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 7:59:53am

Laup Nor is behind in his congressional race.

Take out the racist and the trash
Or you don't get no spendin' cash
If you don't scrub that kitchen floor
You ain't gonna rock and roll no more
Yakety yak (don't talk back)

581 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:00:02am

re: #551 {Miss Trixie} good morning and a *smooch* back atcha - now get back to smacking them alligators down! LOL!

582 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:00:14am

re: #578 realwest

Either way, they are all idiotic things to say...

583 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:00:23am

re: #558 loppyd

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

Busy day so far at the mill.

Is it a full moon?

Lunar eclipse coming tomorrow night in this part of the country (possibly a partial?) Does that make 'em 'moonbattier'? :^)

584 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:00:49am

There ought to be mandatory lessons on genetics for all Pakistani immigrants. It's bad enough when cousins marry cousins, but when this happens generation after generation, it is genetically the same as siblings mating. That is a genetic disaster.

585 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:01:30am

re: #574 Ward Cleaver

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


re: #525 hayseed

it's all urban legend says cair

Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters!

Now don't start on blowing things up again!

Being CAIR, wouldn't it be their allies blowing stuff up again?

586 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:02:13am

re: #584 Kenneth

I would say something about a generation of mentally deficient splodey-dopes but, that would be beneath me.

587 laZardo  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:02:19am

Time to hit the hay.

G'night, Lizards, see you in the morning(-ish.)

588 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:02:19am

re: #569 MandyManners

Damn Right!

589 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:02:31am

re: #579 Daisy

re: #256 hayseed


my snowdrops have been blooming for a couple weeks now

Now that does inspire Hope. I still have thick ice in my driveway (upstate NY) .. but it is melting a bit every day - every new puddle brings a smile to my face :) The Snowdrops are getting ready to emerge .. and then the Crocuses and the Grape Hyacinths and then the Daffodils! Oh boy the daffodils - for several years, each autumn, we plant about 200 daffodils on a gentle hillside in the back yard - the daffodils have multiplied (the way they do) and come out of the woods and down the slope alongside that part of the property and fall into the green grass. I've duplicated something special from my childhood w/this endeavor, and it's become a source of real happiness. This is also my contribution to the environmental movement .. that and the rest of the gardens :) ... lots of perennials.

Have a good day out there Lizards.


* * *
One good thing that came out of Texas democrats -- NOT last night--are Lady Bird Johnson's daffodils planted along the Potomac River's George Washington Parkway drive.

Mrs. Johnson's beautification of that highway near the Pentagon is much appreciated in Spring, along with the Cherry Blossoms across the river.

590 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:02:33am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I can't put those chores off anymore! Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road!

591 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:03:15am

re: #584 Kenneth


It wouldn't help. This is all about keeping the wealth w/in the tribe.

592 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:03:55am

re: #591 wahabicorridor

re: #584 Kenneth

It wouldn't help. This is all about keeping the wealth w/in the tribe.

Plus, isn't learning about genetics haram?

593 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:03:57am

re: #572 MandyManners

re: #568 tfc3rid

Even in my over-sized sweats.

Are those anything like 'enlarged briefs'? :^)

594 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:04:02am

re: #584 Kenneth

There ought to be mandatory lessons on genetics for all Pakistani immigrants. It's bad enough when cousins marry cousins, but when this happens generation after generation, it is genetically the same as siblings mating. That is a genetic disaster.

yes, and who's picking up the check. ( who cares what they believe, this practice is a disaster on so many levels )

595 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:04:41am

re: #589 alegrias

One good thing that came out of Texas democrats -- NOT last night--are Lady Bird Johnson's daffodils planted along the Potomac River's George Washington Parkway drive.

And Lady Bird, herself, I would add. Fine woman.

596 loppyd  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:04:42am

re: #583 MrMom

re: #558 loppyd

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

Busy day so far at the mill.

Is it a full moon?

Lunar eclipse coming tomorrow night in this part of the country (possibly a partial?) Does that make 'em 'moonbattier'? :^)

Most definitely!

It's making some of our clients even dumber than usual, too.

597 loppyd  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:05:05am

Must get back to work.

BBL

598 Beach Lover  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:05:28am

Morning lizards! Just a drive by as much to do today...but think it interesting that the leading democrat's candidate (well ...OK wife, whatever) has finally said "out loud" what I have surmised all along...they wouldn't patriotism if it hit them in the face! Only what the "public can do for them". For all the hipe they give Kennedy why is it that they never seem to repeat the "ask not speech"? I think Obama is this year's political Sanjaya. All fluff ...no talent!

check out this article from Michelle Malkin...good one
www.michellemalkin.com

599 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:05:48am

re: #574 Ward Cleaver

re: #528 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #525 hayseed
it's all urban legend says cair
Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters!
Now don't start on blowing things up again!

From that page:

FACT: GHASSAN ELASHI WAS NEVER AN EMPLOYEE OR OFFICER OF CAIR

CAIR has hundreds of board members and employees and some 50,000 members. It would be illogical and unfair to hold CAIR responsible for the personal activities of all these people.

The fact that Elashi was once associated with one of our more than thirty regional chapters has no legal significance to our corporation given the fact that any actions taken by him were outside the scope and chronology of his association with one of our chapters.

So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR? Charles deletes offending posts as soon as he sees them; I wonder how many people like this Ghassan Elashi that CAIR has fired, let go, or terminated their relationships with, after having their attention called to their nefarious activities? 'Cause it sounds like they're just making excuses for themselves as a response, to me.

/just saying.

600 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:05:56am

re: #593 MrMom

re: #572 MandyManners


re: #568 tfc3rid

Even in my over-sized sweats.


Are those anything like 'enlarged briefs'? :^)

Nah. These are plush.

601 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:06:23am

re: #592 Honorary Yooper

Plus, isn't learning about genetics haram?

Good point. As there's nothing about it in that POS book of theirs, it probably is.

602 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:06:51am

re: #595 wahabicorridor

re: #589 alegrias


One good thing that came out of Texas democrats -- NOT last night--are Lady Bird Johnson's daffodils planted along the Potomac River's George Washington Parkway drive.

And Lady Bird, herself, I would add. Fine woman.


* * *
Agreed. Lady Bird apparently lobbied hard for the Civil Rights Act WHILE baking cookies and speaking softly in the White House...That was a long-suffering class act.

603 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:07:17am

re: #573 loppyd


six and a wake up... Ohmmm Ohmmm Ohmmm.

604 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:07:45am

re: #599 gop_patriot

So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?

They're champions of pretzel logic.

605 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:07:57am

re: #595 wahabicorridor

re: #589 alegrias


One good thing that came out of Texas democrats -- NOT last night--are Lady Bird Johnson's daffodils planted along the Potomac River's George Washington Parkway drive.

And Lady Bird, herself, I would add. Fine woman.

Very much so. Now, her husband, on the other hand, was a piece of work.

606 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:08:24am

For you soccer/football fans.

'Grant victim of anti-Semitic campaign'

"I have been a Chelsea supporter since 1968. And Chelsea has always been a White, English, Christian football club in the land of St George. I would rather see Chelsea playing in the Isthmian league, than see you Jewish b*** ruin it with Russian, American and nasty Israeli terrorist Jews."

607 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:08:53am

Saboteurs may have cut Mideast telecom cables: UN

"We do not want to pre-empt the results of ongoing investigations, but we do not rule out that a deliberate act of sabotage caused the damage to the undersea cables over two weeks ago," the UN agency's head of development, Sami al-Murshed, told AFP.

Anad an alternative theory, with an espionage twist,

Which leads one to suspect that A) there was no foul play; otherwise the the cable repair ships ROVs would either spot the tap or the cable ships would haul the tap up itself if it were installed close to the break; or B) there's a separate tap and the breaks are intentionally created to create a new normal signal profile for the tapped cable.

But who could possibly be interested in tapping into the telephone & internet traffic of Egypt, KSA, the Persian Gulf states & Iran?

That's a real head-scratcher!

608 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:09:05am

re: #604 MandyManners

BLINK!

They're champions of pretzel logic

/out

609 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:09:09am

re: #604 MandyManners

re: #599 gop_patriot


So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?

They're champions of pretzel logic.

Even pretzels have fewer twists than CAIR's logic. The only thing that comes close is a bowl of spaghetti. We just have to pull out each strand at a time and expose it to the light.

610 JWM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:09:22am

Good morning folks.
I probably shouldn't have read the St. Louis Dispatch article, as it did nothing for my particular frame of mind this morning. It's infuriating that these disgusting creeps at Cair are lurking and just itching to find something- anything to squeal about. On the other hand, some good may come of this. Certainly there will be some folks who read the article, and decide to come over here to LGF to see just what this site, and this community are all about. The offending posts that they quoted speak for themselves. You can guess for yourself just how horrified the average reder will be upon seeing them. Somehow I doubt that many people in middle America are going to check out LGF and come away with sympathy for Cair, and antipathy toward us. Quite the opposite, in fact. This site, its content, and its comments are testimony enough.

JWM

611 MrMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:09:35am

Gotta run. BBL my fellow 'islamic hate-siters'
/OY!
//Play nice.

612 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:09:45am

re: #601 wahabicorridor

re: #592 Honorary Yooper


Plus, isn't learning about genetics haram?

Good point. As there's nothing about it in that POS book of theirs, it probably is.

* * *
There are plenty of fertility doctors who are mohameddan, practicing genetic engineering, right here in DC. One Dr. Oweiss (Georgetown U?) comes to mind. His brother was involved in the murder of his western wife in Northern Virginia. Yikes.

613 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:11:26am

re: #591 wahabicorridor

Very true. This just opens the broader problem about learning to cast off tribalism and other destructive social forces.

614 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:14:02am

re: #608 BabbaZee

re: #604 MandyManners

BLINK!


They're champions of pretzel logic

/out

Awesome song! Thanks for the link.

615 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:14:05am

re: #604 MandyManners

re: #599 gop_patriot

So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel Islamologic.

Fixed it for ya.

;^)

616 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:14:44am
617 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:15:01am

re: #609 Honorary Yooper

re: #604 MandyManners


re: #599 gop_patriot

So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?

They're champions of pretzel logic.

Even pretzels have fewer twists than CAIR's logic. The only thing that comes close is a bowl of spaghetti. We just have to pull out each strand at a time and expose it to the light.

Aw, c'mon. Now I'll have a hard time eating spaghetti without thinking of those assholes.

618 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:15:10am

re: #604 MandyManners

re: #599 gop_patriot

So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel logic.

Well said!

/And also, they're champions of taqiyya, rhetoric, and doublespeak.

619 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:16:45am

Palestinian Christians live in constant fear

Father Raymond J. De Souza

JERUSALEM -Here with an item from last week's news that you might not have heard about: Unidentified gunmen blew up the YMCA library in the Gaza Strip on Friday morning. While no one was hurt, two guards were temporarily kidnapped while the offices were looted, a vehicle stolen and all 8,000 books destroyed. No one has claimed responsibility for the attack, although Fatah accused Hamas of being behind it. Hamas, for its part, strongly denied any responsibility and condemned the attack. Meanwhile, confidential sources in Gaza told the Jerusalem Post that the attack was in response to the reprinting of the Muhammad cartoons in Danish newspapers last week.

snip

A second noteworthy dimension of the Gaza YMCA bombing is, well, how un-noteworthy it was. It was treated in the Israeli press as a sort of news brief. After all, there was the continuing story of the assassination in Damascus of Hezbollah's chief of terror operations, Imad Mughniyeh. And just hours after the YMCA attack, eight Palestinians in Gaza were killed in an explosion at the home of Ayman Fayad, a senior Islamic Jihad official. All Palestinian organizations blamed the Israeli Defence Forces for the blast; Israel denied any involvement.

snip

Even then, who would do the reporting? There is no free press in Gaza. Outside reporters, whether Israeli or foreign, cannot move about freely and pursue such stories. Foreign reporters in particular need extensive handlers, as they do not know the local language, the local geography or the local leaders. It is much easier to stay in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem and rewrite press statements about the visit of the latest foreign dignitary.

620 joan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:16:50am

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
The link is in my Bookmarks/Favorites now. Why doesn't the FBI and the concerned activist network for hope, peace go after Tenured Hate Speech from the very heart of Obama-land:
%u2022 Professor at the University of Hawaii at Manoa
%u2022 Advocate of Hawaii’s independence from the U.S., and of the state’s deportation of all non-ethnic Hawaiians
%u2022 “The enemy is the United States of America and everyone who supports it.”
Haunani-Kay Trask is Professor of Hawaiian Studies at the University of Hawaii. She was born in San Francisco in 1949 and received her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin in 1981. Her thesis was on “The Promise of Feminism.”

Although lacking any scholarly publications, Trask is a well-known “Hawaiian activist” and poet, the author of works like “Racist White Woman,” which reads:

Racist White Woman
I could kick
Your face, puncture
Both eyes.
You deserve this kind
Of violence.
No more vicious
Tongues, obscene
Lies.
Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.
For all my people
Under your feet
For all those years
Lived smug and wealthy
Off our land
Parasite arrogant
A fist
In your painted
Mouth, thick
With money
And piety.

621 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:16:55am
622 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:17:00am

re: #606 Ben Hur

that's really sad!

623 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:17:07am

re: #615 Spiny Norman

re: #604 MandyManners


re: #599 gop_patriot
So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel Islamologic.

Fixed it for ya.

;^)

Islamologic. Where left is right. Up is down. Day is night.

624 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:17:12am

re: #612 alegrias

His brother was involved in the murder of his western wife in Northern Virginia. Yikes.

When was this? I missed it...

625 bigmacdaddy  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:17:19am

re: #525 hayseed

it's all urban legend says cair

Hayseed...gotta give you props on the link. That's the biggest laugh I've had in a week. They support one of the "FACTS" by quoting "Senior Editor John Sugg of Florida's Weekly Planet." WTF? Clark Kent was busy?

Anyway, after having delved through their slime...I need to go take a shower.

626 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:17:24am

re: #608 BabbaZee


For CAIR

I'ld give Hooper the same treatment Nasty gave the cameraman

627 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:18:32am

re: #618 gop_patriot

It's a goog thing I was working yesterday when the CAIR thread was active. I might've blown a gasket.

628 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:18:48am

re: #607 Kenneth

That's a real head-scratcher!

Don't tell me we actually did something right for a change?

629 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:20:55am

re: #620 joan

What a loathsome individual.

630 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:21:11am

re: #623 MandyManners

re: #615 Spiny Norman
re: #604 MandyManners
re: #599 gop_patriot
So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel Islamologic.
Fixed it for ya.
Islamologic. Where left is right. Up is down. Day is night.

And Islam is a religion of peace.

631 VegasRick  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:21:50am

re: #615 Spiny Norman

re: #604 MandyManners


re: #599 gop_patriot
So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel Islamologicfascism.

Fixed it for ya.

;^)

632 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:22:18am

Oddly Enough, (addendum to my #612)

Doctor Swore on Koran He Did Not Murder His Western Wife

Judge Imposes Maximum Sentence On Doctor Who Killed His Wife In A Jealous Rage
[Link: www.nbc4.com...]

633 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:23:32am

Maybe some of you have seen this, I just had a chance to buzz in here
and then back out.

SORRY, I don't have the link, But It's on AOL's homepage.

WAL-MART APOLOGIZES IN LETTER TO MUSLIM WOMAN
AND WILL PUT EMPLOYEE'S IN SENSITIVITY TRAINING...


I apologize for the 'hit and run' but duty calls. ALL have a good day.

634 JWM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:23:35am

re: #620 joan

Wow. What a revolutionary poem!
And she has a PhD in wymmins studies.
I guess that makes her a professional---
(count 'em)
No, I ain't gonna' say it.
;)

JWM

635 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:23:36am

This is one of the ones who needs to be taken out and hung by his heels until his nose bleeds. Same one who suggested having to buy a license to purchase tobacco I believe.

Professor Julian le Grand, the chairman of Health England, said customers should be made to make a conscious decision to buy drink by going into a different shop instead of being "lured" into buying alcohol during their weekly grocery shop.

He said alcohol had become "like adult candy", with customers seduced into buying cut-price drink on their way around the supermarket in the same way that sweets used to be placed near tills.

636 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:24:28am

re: #630 Spiny Norman

re: #623 MandyManners

re: #615 Spiny Norman
re: #604 MandyManners
re: #599 gop_patriot
So, CAIR can't be held responsible for one of their board members or employees, because there are just so many- but Charles and LGF is to be held responsible for the occasional comment among thousands, according to CAIR?
They're champions of pretzel Islamologic.
Fixed it for ya.
Islamologic. Where left is right. Up is down. Day is night.

And Islam is a religion of peace.

And, I'm the Queen of France.

637 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:25:35am

re: #620 joan "She was born in San Francisco in 1949 and received her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin in 1981..." About says it all.

638 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:25:55am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

re: #612 alegrias


His brother was involved in the murder of his western wife in Northern Virginia. Yikes.

When was this? I missed it...

* * *
Eeons ago--just weeks before September 11, 2001. Before we knew about Sudden jihadi syndrome and the wholey book.

639 JWM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:26:03am

re: #636 MandyManners

So, what's up, your Highness?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

JWM

640 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:26:20am

re: #623 MandyManners

The biblical way of saying that is...

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
641 Spider Mensch  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:27:56am

re: #635 wahabicorridor

"like adult candy"...hmmm must be some vita-meata-vegamin on the shelfs...

"tastes just like candy! Honest! (hic!)

/Lucy

642 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:28:25am

re: #620 joan

Wow! That poem is horrific! Imagine if a male academic wrote something like that, he would be out of a job by the end of the week. But a woman of color? It's progressive & transgressive!

Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.

By the way, her "poetry" reminds me of somebody else... did she study under Abu Musab al-Zarqawi?

643 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:28:29am

re: #632 alegrias

Oddly Enough, (addendum to my #612)

Doctor Swore on Koran He Did Not Murder His Western Wife

Judge Imposes Maximum Sentence On Doctor Who Killed His Wife In A Jealous Rage
[Link: www.nbc4.com...]


Oh, it was over in Potomac MD - not here in NoVa. Wondered why it didn't ring a bell.

644 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:28:44am

re: #632 alegrias

Oddly Enough, (addendum to my #612)

Doctor Swore on Koran He Did Not Murder His Western Wife

Judge Imposes Maximum Sentence On Doctor Who Killed His Wife In A Jealous Rage
[Link: www.nbc4.com...]

How long before he's out on parole?

645 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:28:47am

re: #635 wahabicorridor

This is one of the ones who needs to be taken out and hung by his heels until his nose bleeds. Same one who suggested having to buy a license to purchase tobacco I believe.

Professor Julian le Grand, the chairman of Health England, said customers should be made to make a conscious decision to buy drink by going into a different shop instead of being "lured" into buying alcohol during their weekly grocery shop.

He said alcohol had become "like adult candy", with customers seduced into buying cut-price drink on their way around the supermarket in the same way that sweets used to be placed near tills.

You mean there's a law against that in the U.K.?

646 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:29:45am

re: #637 realwest

re: #620 joan "She was born in San Francisco in 1949 and received her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin in 1981..." About says it all.

So, that makes her not a native Hawaiian?

647 JCM  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:29:48am

re: #634 JWM

re: #620 joan

Wow. What a revolutionary poem!
And she has a PhD in wymmins studies.
I guess that makes her a professional---
(count 'em)
No, I ain't gonna' say it.
;)

JWM

With a minor in Peace Studies.
/

648 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:29:52am

re: #639 JWM

re: #636 MandyManners

So, what's up, your Highness?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

JWM

We are amused.

649 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:30:29am

re: #640 Carolyn

re: #623 MandyManners

The biblical way of saying that is...


Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Evil comes in many forms.

650 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:08am

I have no doubt that socialist health nannys would make cheeseburgers illegal if they could.

651 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:27am

re: #645 Dar ul Harb

I'd like to see the good professor attempt to take a Guiness out of the hands in the pubs. He's welcome to walk down to the nearest neighborhood pub and do it in person.

I would imagine that he would leave in a different/altered state.

652 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:42am

re: #645 Dar ul Harb

re: #635 wahabicorridor


This is one of the ones who needs to be taken out and hung by his heels until his nose bleeds. Same one who suggested having to buy a license to purchase tobacco I believe.

Professor Julian le Grand, the chairman of Health England, said customers should be made to make a conscious decision to buy drink by going into a different shop instead of being "lured" into buying alcohol during their weekly grocery shop.

He said alcohol had become "like adult candy", with customers seduced into buying cut-price drink on their way around the supermarket in the same way that sweets used to be placed near tills.



You mean there's a law against that in the U.K.?

Am I the only one here who read "tits" for "tills"?

653 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:55am

re: #401 WriterMom

re: #389 sparrowlake

THAT SUCKS. The whole enchillada sucks. Stupid idea, probably initiated by Ehud "You Can Stand Under Mah Umbrella, Mahmoud" Olmert.

LOL. Call me an old-fashioned romantic but I think they really like eachother.
BLECH.

654 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:57am

I'm disturbed by a clear strain of moral relativism, here. Some people seem to be making the argument, such as it is, along the lines of:

"Well, at Kos, they said..."

"Well, CAIR has said..."

"But is 'Nuke Mecca' really worse than Death to America..."

And so forth.

This is lazy thinking guys. Just as we hold other people accountable, we've got to hold ourselves accountable. Saying "Nuke Mecca" is stupid, but it is not illegal. Saying "somebody go dynamite that building" is illegal.

Hear that. It's illegal. Not protected by the First Amendment. It's wrong.

So don't make excuses for people who utter trash like that. Don't make comparisons to try and alleviate the responsibility.

CAIR called us on some moronic rantings by people whose comments should be -- and were -- deleted. As long as we can face up to that, and keep ourselves in line, we'll keep the moral fortitude to point out the error of CAIR's ways. And they are many.

655 newmelleman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:31:59am

re: #649 MandyManners

re: #640 Carolyn


re: #623 MandyManners

The biblical way of saying that is...


Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Evil comes in many forms.

So,,,its like a box of chocolates?

/

656 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:32:16am

re: #650 Dar ul Harb

I have no doubt that socialist health nannys would make cheeseburgers illegal if they could.

They would, and then eat them themselves in private. That's how these freaking nannies operate.

Hypocrites.

657 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:32:23am

re: #652 MandyManners

It's only you Mandy, only you.

658 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:32:28am

re: #622 hayseed

re: #606 Ben Hur

that's really sad!

But not at all surprising.

Chelsea supporters rarely are from Chelsea.

659 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:32:28am

re: #620 joan

Racist White Woman
I could kick
Your face, puncture
Both eyes.
You deserve this kind
Of violence.
No more vicious
Tongues, obscene
Lies.
Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.

Wow. And she has the temerity to call someone else a racist.

660 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:32:34am

re: #636 MandyManners

re: #630 Spiny Norman
re: #623 MandyManners
re: #615 Spiny Norman
re: #604 MandyManners
They're champions of pretzel Islamologic.
Fixed it for ya.
Islamologic. Where left is right. Up is down. Day is night.
And Islam is a religion of peace.
And, I'm the Queen of France.

Your Majesty!

661 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:33:18am

re: #649 MandyManners

re: #640 Carolyn

re: #623 MandyManners

The biblical way of saying that is...


Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Evil comes in many forms.

Evil doesn't like to be in the light.

662 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:33:42am

re: #652 MandyManners

I didn't but I like the way you think.

663 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:34:12am

re: #635 wahabicorridor

Well, I have news for le Grand Prof- when I was younger, it was (maybe still is) illegal to sell alcoholic beverages besides beer in supermarkets in my city. I never saw such a sight until I lived in California for a while. In fact, you couldn't sell beer and food in the same place, ie; no snacks in liquor stores. And I PROMISE you, there was no less drinking going on in my place of birth, than in any city where you could grab a bottle of wine while you were shopping for your lasagna ingredients. Where I live now, only beer and wine are sold in supermarkets, no hard liquor.

What a maroon!

664 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:34:19am

re: #652 MandyManners

Am I the only one here who read "tits" for "tills"?

'Fraid so.

665 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:34:33am

re: #652 MandyManners

Am I the only one here who read "tits" for "tills"?

Yes.

666 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:34:52am

re: #654 Cognito

For once, I agree with you.

Just this once, I'm sure.

667 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:35:35am

re: #655 newmelleman

re: #649 MandyManners


re: #640 Carolyn

re: #623 MandyManners
The biblical way of saying that is...


Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Evil comes in many forms.

So,,,its like a box of chocolates?

/

Just not sweet.

668 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:36:29am

wide stance, enlarged briefs...heh, can't seem to get that one out of my head this morning.

I must need some serious help...

669 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:36:38am

re: #651 BulgarWheat

I'd like to see the good professor attempt to take a Guiness out of the hands in the pubs

He's trying. I think he got laws passed to limit their operating hours.

670 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:36:39am

Oh, I'm embarassed.

671 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:37:01am

One speculates at the mental association occurring in Mandy's mind, but it sounds like fun.

672 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:37:53am

re: #669 wahabicorridor

In the interest of the people of the UK, I suggest someone get that nanny-state nattering nabob laid or something. He's got way too much time on his hands.

673 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:37:59am

re: #669 wahabicorridor

re: #651 BulgarWheat


I'd like to see the good professor attempt to take a Guiness out of the hands in the pubs

He's trying. I think he got laws passed to limit their operating hours.

He should take a history lesson from the US, say between 1919 and 1933. It didn't work here, won't work there.

674 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:38:14am

re: #508 BabbaZee

re: #498 ggt

I like old. I am finally the age I was born to be, lol.

Years and years ago I had a gig in a place that featured guys dressed in drag, (Finocchios in SF). And one night this black dude gets on stage in a striking gown, entered the spotlight with a piano flourish and sang... that song. I about died with laughter. I could not function for several minutes.

Good morning to all Lizards!

675 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:38:29am

re: #659 David Simon

re: #620 joan

Racist White Woman
I could kick
Your face, puncture
Both eyes.
You deserve this kind
Of violence.
No more vicious
Tongues, obscene
Lies.
Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.

Wow. And she has the temerity to call someone else a racist.

Heh, that's the way that works. We white people had better not say boo to anyone, but we must endure the hatred of all without complaining.
We are racist by simply prospering. Gee.

676 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:38:40am
“Silver-tongued orator”
“Man in love with the microphone”
“Trained thespian”
“Janus, the two-faced Roman god”
“Harvard Law Review editor”
“Shadow boxer”
“Great footwork”
“Poet”

Loved by:

“Latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust-fund babies.”

This is a supporter of Hilary on Barack.

The irony is killing me.

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

677 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:39:32am

re: #659 David Simon

Well, aren't you the slow one in the Anti-Colonialism Studies class?

She's a "womyn of color" and is therefore one of the Global Oppressed and cannot be racist. Pay attention, or we will have to send you to audit Ward Churchill's lectures on Racism and Identity. What are you anyway, some kind of Zionist?

/heavy, heavy sarcasm

678 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:39:41am

Is this now officially a boob thread?

679 saberry0530  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:40:18am

re: #678 Dar ul Harb

Is this now officially a boob thread?

One can only dream.

680 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:40:40am

So, last night we were getting the kids into their pajamas and my son had a "future President of the United States" sticker on his pajamas from his teacher after their President's Day lesson. He proudly showed it to me and I said "OK Mr. President, pull up your pants". He looked very offended and said "Dad, you would never need to say that to a President". My wife and I laughed, thinking of Slick Willie and said "No, not in your life-time".

I'm with many of you here with the frustration we've felt these last few years, but at least he honors the office and we don't have to plug our kid's ears when the news turns to the President and stained dresses, etc.

681 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:41:44am

re: #678 Dar ul Harb

Don't they always become boob threads?

682 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:42:30am

I've been known to compose a little poetry from time to time:

Haunani-Kay Trask
Vile Racist Bitch
If you don't like America
Get the fuck out

683 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:42:40am

re: #681 tfc3rid

re: #678 Dar ul Harb

Don't they always become boob threads?

It's the internet.

One mistyped URL, and...

684 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:44:08am
685 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:44:11am

re: #654 Cognito

I'm disturbed by a clear strain of moral relativism, here. Some people seem to be making the argument, such as it is, along the lines of:

"Well, at Kos, they said..."

"Well, CAIR has said..."

"But is 'Nuke Mecca' really worse than Death to America..."

And so forth.

This is lazy thinking guys. Just as we hold other people accountable, we've got to hold ourselves accountable. Saying "Nuke Mecca" is stupid, but it is not illegal. Saying "somebody go dynamite that building" is illegal.

Hear that. It's illegal. Not protected by the First Amendment. It's wrong.

So don't make excuses for people who utter trash like that. Don't make comparisons to try and alleviate the responsibility.

CAIR called us on some moronic rantings by people whose comments should be -- and were -- deleted. As long as we can face up to that, and keep ourselves in line, we'll keep the moral fortitude to point out the error of CAIR's ways. And they are many.

CAIR was specifically tarring all of LGF for the comments left by four individuals, postings that were deleted once Charles became aware of them. They threaten to go to the FBI to start investigations into the site as a hate site.

That stands in stark contrast to statements and images of CAIR at rallies with Hizbullah flags waving behind them, the CAIR as unindicted co-conspirators in terrorism cases, legal woes for numerous officials involved in CAIR and the like.

Those who made the inappropriate comments had them deleted as soon as Charles was made aware of them. CAIR purposefully ran their PR presser ignoring the caption above every thread that specifically states that:

# Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
# Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.

What CAIR was doing was nothing less than hoping to bully a blogger into making changes to the site and getting them in legal trouble for comments left thereon.

686 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:44:18am

re: #674 rawmuse

my wife and I went to a jazz bar in p town...all the guys wre dressed as old ladies.lol

687 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:45:21am
688 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:47:42am

Good morning Lizards! [it's still morning here in Los Angeles]
I was busy with work yesterday [damned fools make me work!] and missed some good stuff, including CAIR taking a swipe at Charles and the Lizard Nation [inc]...

You know you've arrived when CAIR hates you.

689 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:47:43am

re: #654 Cognito

Moral relativism would imply that we are excusing the behavior of the deleted posters by saying "but look what they do" while pointing towards CAIR. I haven't seen that here. (I pointed out some blatant hypocrisy on that CAIR page, a pot-calling-kettle-black kind of thing, up thread, but in no way excused the deleted comments by doing so.)

What you said-

So don't make excuses for people who utter trash like that. Don't make comparisons to try and alleviate the responsibility.

-in my opinion, hasn't happened here. Excuses for the deleted comments? No. Comparison and contrast? Yep, and there is nothing wrong in doing that. Trying to alleviate the responsibility? Not at all! If anything, the commenters today have been very clear in voicing their opinions that the deleted comments absolutely deserved deleting. BUT the only people responsible for the comments that were deleted are the people who wrote them.

690 hayseed  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:47:54am

Provincetown Mass...yes my wife and i went there

691 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:49:23am

Well, I know that I feel better now that Mr. Moral has lectured us.

692 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:49:34am

re: #677 Kenneth Ah but my friend, she was born in San Francisco and received her PhD from the University of Wisconsin. (see my # 637 above) so she's not only the victim of her surroundings when she "grew up" but also the educational system that granted her a PhD!

693 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:49:59am
694 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:50:06am

Not that I read his pronouncements from on high. I like the GAZE function.

695 Carolyn  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:50:48am

re: #687 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks buzzsawmonkey.

Watch over, my kind G-d.


My kind of deity.

696 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:50:59am

re: #691 MandyManners

Well, I know that I feel better now that Mr. Moral has lectured us.

What? I missed a good lecturing? I must've been when my wife was hectoring me about my office being messy. A good chastisement is better than caffeine in the morning!

/

697 MacGregor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:51:24am

Political Censorship at Yahoo Mail:
This note seems to be undeliverable to yahoo mail recipients:

Speaking of google, here they are censoring conservatives again:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Curious- When I try to send this, yahoo rejects it with a policy note.

698 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:51:37am

re: #643 wahabicorridor

re: #632 alegrias


Oddly Enough, (addendum to my #612)

Doctor Swore on Koran He Did Not Murder His Western Wife

Judge Imposes Maximum Sentence On Doctor Who Killed His Wife In A Jealous Rage
[Link: www.nbc4.com...]


Oh, it was over in Potomac MD - not here in NoVa. Wondered why it didn't ring a bell.


* * *
Sorry, I misremembered the details--gettin' old--I met the 'good' mohammedan brother in DC, where he gave me his murdering doctor brother's name.

699 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:52:24am
700 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:53:10am

re: #692 realwest

Guess who one of her classmates was? Good ol' Ward Churchill! Must have been quite a campus!

701 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:53:35am

speak peace when peace is spoken, But I speak war when your hate is provoking, The season is open 24-7-365, Man up yo time to ride, No need to hide behind slogans of deceit, Claiming that you're a religion of peace, We just don't believe you, We can clearly see through, The madness that you're feeding your people, Jihad the cry of your unholy war, Using the willing, the weak and poor, From birth drowning in propaganda, rhetoric and slander, All we can say is damn ya

My forefathers fought and died for this here
I'm stronger than your war of fear
Are we clear?
If you step in my hood
It's understood
It's open season

I don't need a faith that's blind, Where death and hate bring me peace of mind, With views that are stuck deep in the seventh century, So much sand in your eyes to blind to see, The venom that you leaders preach, Is the path to your own destruction, Your own demise, You might say that I don't understand but your disgust for me is what I realize, Surprise!
Your homicidal ways has got the whole world watching, Whole world scoping, So if you bring it to my home base, Best believe it, The season's open

I see you, Hell yeah I see you, Motherfucker naw, I don't wanna be you, If you come to my place, I'll drop more than just some bass, Yo you'll get a taste of a, Sick motherfucker from the Dirty, I ain't worrying not a fucking bit, I'm telescoping like Hubble, Yo you in trouble, Yo on the double, I'm wild with mine, Bring that style with mine, Fuck with my family I'll end your life, Just the way it is, Just the way it be, Do you understand? No matter if you're woman or man, or child, My profile is crazy, That shit you do doesn't amaze me, I'm ready to blaze thee

I don't give a damn what god you claim, I've seen the innocent that you've slain, On my streets you're just fair game, Like a pig walk to your slaughter, The heat here is so much hotter, And my views won't teeter totter or fluctuate, Step to me you just met your fate, And I'll annihilate, With the skill of a Shogun assassin, Slicing and dicing precise with a passion, In any shape form or fashion, Bring it to my home, Welcome to the danger zone, Cause your attitude's the reason, The triggers keep squeezing, The hunt is on and it's open season

It's Open Season

702 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:53:43am

re: #699 ploome hineni

..and yesterday another morally vacant sock puppet, planted propagandist, posted one post after another using different nics

Charles, did you see?

Hey Ploomey! What were some of those nics?

703 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:54:12am

re: #687 buzzsawmonkeyThat was wonderful. Thank you!

704 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:54:17am

re: #697 MacGregor

Are you saying that when you try to email that link, Yahoo says NO, because of content?! :X

Oh, my.

705 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:54:45am

re: #691 MandyManners

Well, I know that I feel better now that Mr. Moral has lectured us.

LOL. Guilt works for me.

706 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:54:53am

re: #696 coquimbojoe

re: #691 MandyManners


Well, I know that I feel better now that Mr. Moral has lectured us.

What? I missed a good lecturing? I must've been when my wife was hectoring me about my office being messy. A good chastisement is better than caffeine in the morning!

/

I prefer my cuppa'.

707 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:55:21am

re: #704 gop_patriot

re: #697 MacGregor

Are you saying that when you try to email that link, Yahoo says NO, because of content?! :X

Oh, my.

A Fox News link? That seems rather unlikely...

Maybe there is some other problem?

708 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:55:45am

re: #699 ploome hineni

..and yesterday another morally vacant sock puppet, planted propagandist, posted one post after another using different nics

Charles, did you see?

Where?

709 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:56:16am

re: #685 lawhawk

re: #654 Cognito

I'm disturbed by a clear strain of moral relativism, here. Some people seem to be making the argument, such as it is, along the lines of:

"Well, at Kos, they said..."

"Well, CAIR has said..."

"But is 'Nuke Mecca' really worse than Death to America..."

And so forth.

This is lazy thinking guys. Just as we hold other people accountable, we've got to hold ourselves accountable. Saying "Nuke Mecca" is stupid, but it is not illegal. Saying "somebody go dynamite that building" is illegal.

Hear that. It's illegal. Not protected by the First Amendment. It's wrong.

So don't make excuses for people who utter trash like that. Don't make comparisons to try and alleviate the responsibility.

CAIR called us on some moronic rantings by people whose comments should be -- and were -- deleted. As long as we can face up to that, and keep ourselves in line, we'll keep the moral fortitude to point out the error of CAIR's ways. And they are many.

CAIR was specifically tarring all of LGF for the comments left by four individuals, postings that were deleted once Charles became aware of them. They threaten to go to the FBI to start investigations into the site as a hate site.

That stands in stark contrast to statements and images of CAIR at rallies with Hizbullah flags waving behind them, the CAIR as unindicted co-conspirators in terrorism cases, legal woes for numerous officials involved in CAIR and the like.

Those who made the inappropriate comments had them deleted as soon as Charles was made aware of them. CAIR purposefully ran their PR presser ignoring the caption above every thread that specifically states that:

# Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
# Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.

What CAIR was doing was nothing less than hoping to bully a blogger into making changes to the site and getting them in legal trouble for comments left thereon.

My answer to all that is: Tough.

Yes, when people make vile comments here, it's going to tar the whole blog. Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle.

The thing to do -- as Charles did -- is to delete those posts with dispatch. And then to stand firm against such junk, not coddle it with comparisons. The argument "That stands in stark contrast to statements and images of CAIR..." does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited. The FBI isn't in the business of measuring out who's worse than whom. It's not a game of moral relativism.

710 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:56:17am

re: #689 gop_patriot Indeed! But while your comment: "BUT the only people responsible for the comments that were deleted are the people who wrote them." should be true, it's Charles who has to deal with (maybe) the FBI in this matter.
And, for COGNITO - I saw NO COMMENTS out here this morning that excused or justified the making of the comments about which CAIR is complaining, simply pointing out the relative lack of such comments here and the plethora of comments such as "Kill Bush" or "Kill Cheney" at Kos and HuffPoo.
The folks at Kos and Huffpoo may not say negative things about CAIR, but certainly make more volatile, violent and threatening comments than we ever do.

711 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:56:19am
712 republic  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:57:03am

re: #697 MacGregor

Political Censorship at Yahoo Mail:
This note seems to be undeliverable to yahoo mail recipients:


Speaking of google, here they are censoring conservatives again:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Curious- When I try to send this, yahoo rejects it with a policy note.

It seems easier all the time to follow the George Soros money.

713 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:57:28am
714 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:57:36am

re: #705 sparrowlake

It's baaack.

715 MacGregor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:57:53am

re: #704 gop_patriot

re: #697 MacGregor

Are you saying that when you try to email that link, Yahoo says NO, because of content?! :X

Oh, my.

Yes, I email to this person regularly. It wasn't until I took out that specific text that yahoo would accept the mail.

716 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:57:55am

re: #713 Ben Hur

Eww.

717 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:58:02am

re: #619 Ben Hur

He's quite a good writer. He has a regular gig with the National Post.

718 bulwrk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:58:11am

re: #654 Cognito


CAIR called us on some moronic rantings by people whose comments should be -- and were -- deleted.


When polls indicate that up to 20% percent of muslims feel that suicide bombings are in some way justifiable Cair tells us that is not representative of the majority of islam, but when a few people make stupid remarks on this sight Cair tars everyone.

719 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:58:22am

re: #713 Ben Hur

BARF ALERT!

720 republic  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:00am

re: #710 realwest

re: #689 gop_patriot Indeed! But while your comment: "BUT the only people responsible for the comments that were deleted are the people who wrote them." should be true, it's Charles who has to deal with (maybe) the FBI in this matter.
And, for COGNITO - I saw NO COMMENTS out here this morning that excused or justified the making of the comments about which CAIR is complaining, simply pointing out the relative lack of such comments here and the plethora of comments such as "Kill Bush" or "Kill Cheney" at Kos and HuffPoo.
The folks at Kos and Huffpoo may not say negative things about CAIR, but certainly make more volatile, violent and threatening comments than we ever do.


Only in Cognito's narrow mind.

721 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:03am

re: #718 bulwrk

re: #654 Cognito


CAIR called us on some moronic rantings by people whose comments should be -- and were -- deleted.


When polls indicate that up to 20% percent of muslims feel that suicide bombings are in some way justifiable Cair tells us that is not representative of the majority of islam, but when a few people make stupid remarks on this sight Cair tars everyone.

You're making my point.

722 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:23am

re: #712 republic IIRC, the single largest shareholder in Yahoo is a Chinese investment/holding company.
Perhaps you were thinking of Google and Soros or just plain Soros and any anti-American, anti-Freedom organization?

723 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:24am
724 seekeroftruth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:27am

re: #709 Cognito

"Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle."

Sure sounds like your making excuses for CAIR. They should be expected to read Charles' guidelines and respect when he has deleted offensive comments.

725 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 8:59:35am

re: #716 Dar ul Harb

re: #713 Ben Hur

Eww.

I see your "ewe" and raise you an "ick."

726 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:00:19am

re: #698 alegrias

--I met the 'good' mohammedan brother in DC, where he gave me his murdering doctor brother's name.

YIKES!

727 bulwrk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:00:48am

re: #721 Cognito

Hows that?

728 republic  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:01:12am

re: #713 Ben Hur

CNN’s Amanpour: Castro Made ‘Genuine Progress’ in Education, Health Care

She can still taste him.

The idea that Castro is anything other than a brutal dictator, who mass murdered many innocent people, should be laughable, but to the left, it's not.

Remember, the phrase coined by, and believed by all the left,

"evil is the victim of Good"

729 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:01:15am

For some reason the song "Tiny Bubbles" is going through my head but with "gamey buttocks" replacing the title's words.

730 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:01:28am

re: #724 seekeroftruth

re: #709 Cognito

"Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle."

Sure sounds like your making excuses for CAIR. They should be expected to read Charles' guidelines and respect when he has deleted offensive comments.

Um, no. CAIR can't be expected to do any such thing.

Would be nice if they did, but to 'expect' it is perfect naiveté.

731 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:01:36am

re: #700 Kenneth NO WAY!? ROTFLMAO! Not much education being given at that school, "fer shure"!

732 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:02:21am

re: #725 MandyManners

I see your "ewe" and raise you an "ick."


This is no time to turn sheepish on us.

733 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:03:17am

re: #730 Cognito

re: #724 seekeroftruth


re: #709 Cognito

"Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle."

Sure sounds like your making excuses for CAIR. They should be expected to read Charles' guidelines and respect when he has deleted offensive comments.


Um, no. CAIR can't be expected to do any such thing.

Would be nice if they did, but to 'expect' it is perfect naivet?/p>

CAIR's primary purpose is to silence the critics of Islamofascism. By any means.

734 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:03:33am

re: #713 Ben Hur

From your link:

At the beginning of the 8 am hour, Amanpour noted that "there’s a lot of difficulty in day-to-day living," and focused on the jailing of political dissenters. She immediately followed this by saying, "that offsets some of the genuine progress that he's made, in terms of education, health care. People have talked a lot about that. But day-to-day life for them is very decrepit and very hand-to-mouth and, obviously, they want change."

Funny, I don't remember any of that nuance when she declared the Iraq war a "disaster."

735 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:03:35am

re: #713 Ben Hur

* * *

Ms. Amanpour also enjoys dressing in Fidel's chic green military shirts.
Like Bianca Jagger the Sandinista seventies socialist slobberer.

736 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:03:39am
737 seekeroftruth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:04:47am

re: #730 Cognito

Got to disagree with you Cog . Seems like you have double standard of expections for CAIR and are making excuses for their behavior.
Off to work...

738 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:05:12am

BBC's North American editor Justin Webb displays his awesome mental powers,

Al-Qaeda's choice

Islamic terrorists want war. They want suffering - among others and their own people alike.

They would surely surmise that McCain will give them what they want. Bin Laden himself intervened with what many thought was the effect of keeping President Bush in power in 2004 with that weird tape just before the poll.

I think al-Qaeda would back McCain - that is not an argument for or against America backing him, but it seems to me that the vague assumption that the terrorists would back a lefty is lazy thinking...

That's it, Jimbo! Yes, I think I understand your thinking...Al Qaeda has tricked the US into killing them, which is a victory for Osama. But Obama will surrender to the Islamists, which will be a victory for America.

739 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:06:01am

re: #737 seekeroftruth

re: #730 Cognito

Got to disagree with you Cog . Seems like you have double standard of expections for CAIR and are making excuses for their behavior.
Off to work...

If expecting better of us than CAIR is a double standard, then yes. I hold to a double standard.

740 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:06:02am
741 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:06:02am

I hope Savage doesn't have to make any runs along I-94 today. It's a flippin' ass mess.

Huge Pileup Shuts Down I-94 in Indiana

About 7:10 a.m., numerous tractor trailers crashed at the 37- mile marker on I-94, about three miles east of the Michigan City exit, according to Indiana State Police Lowell District Sgt. Ann Wojas. While trying to avoid the mangled trucks several other cars crashed.

Wojas said a total of about 10 semi trucks were involved in the crash and between 10 and 12 cars also collided.

742 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:06:14am

re: #732 ec marm

Better than going goat-ish.

743 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:06:41am

re: #709 Cognito "does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited."[emphasis realwest]
How nice of you to play prosecutor, defense counsel, Judge and jury all at one time!
I know Charles thinks you add something to LGF, but I'll be damned if I can think of what that is.

744 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:07:01am

re: #733 Golem Akbar

CAIR's primary purpose is to silence the critics of Islamofascism. By any means.


If CAIR has to devote some of their Saudi money to paying the salary of someone to cherry pick the statistically insignificant 'over the top' comment that gets made her, that is that much less money they have to spend on those activities that get them in trouble with the law.

745 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:07:06am

re: #732 ec marm

Where's your CAIR logo with the roaches on it? I've been searching my bookmarks all morning!

746 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:07:48am

Could someone please fill me in-was medaura outed as a troll using different sockies?

747 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:08:35am

More lunacy from the UK

It all went horribly wrong for Kate Badger of Wolverhamption (now a suburb of Birmingham) the day she sent an apple core out of the window of her car.

Ms Badger, a mother of three children, has been charged with: "Knowingly causing the deposit of controlled waste namely an apple core on land which did not have a waste management licence.

If convicted, this 26-year-old mother could be fined £20,000 or be imprisioned for six months.


Forbidden Fruit

748 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:08:51am

re: #743 realwest

re: #709 Cognito "does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited."[emphasis realwest]
How nice of you to play prosecutor, defense counsel, Judge and jury all at one time!
I know Charles thinks you add something to LGF, but I'll be damned if I can think of what that is.

Illegal is illegal. Calls for violence -- dynamite included -- are not protected speech.

749 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:09:06am

re: #738 Kenneth

* * *
Kenneth, you say "Jimbo" Webb--are you confusing the BBC guy "Justin" with Virginia Senator James Webb, former Reagan Navy Secretary, now democrat subservient to Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid?
Sen. Webb's now a rouged, plastic surgeried, phony.

750 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:09:36am

OK. NOW GET A LOAD OF THIS.

One of the Pali's greatest PR weapons is when they decry the removal of orange or olive groves that are constantly used as cover during terror attacks.

Of course the complacent MSM NEVER mentions the attacks that happened from the groves when reporting about the IDF clearing them. You know, how "alleged tunnels" become "tunnels" only when the Egyptains find them?

Now read this:

Gazans Feeling Recoil Of Terrorist Attacks on Israel

BEIT HANOUN, Gaza Strip — Mohammed Wahdan, a 20-year-old Palestinian Arab farmer, waited until his mother's four-day funeral had ended, until the last mourner had left his family's crumbling farmhouse on the edge of the Gaza Strip.

Then he picked up an ax and walked out to the family's orange grove. The trees, then full of bright fruit, overlooked fields that rolled down to a cluster of white houses in the distance, their outlines fuzzy in the winter mist.

Mr. Wahdan chopped into the dozen or so orange trees, part of his family's livelihood, sending them to the ground, one by one. Palestinian Arab gunmen — members of Hamas, the armed movement that controls Gaza, and other groups — had used the cover offered by the orange grove to launch rockets at the Israeli town of Sderot, the white houses at the edge of Mr. Wahdan's fields.

When the fighters came one morning last month, the Wahdan family pleaded with them to think of the Israeli return fire that the rockets often drew. "There are women in the house, there are children," Mr. Wahdan recalled telling them. "You run away, but if the Israeli planes come, where do we go?"

But the gunmen went on as planned, the Wahdan family said. When the fighters came back that afternoon to launch rockets that had failed to fire the first time, Khadra, Mohammed's 54-year-old mother, was rolling dough in the kitchen. She ran out to shout at the fighters.

Khadra made it to the gate of the family courtyard when an Israeli shell hit. Shrapnel killed her and the family's 15-year-old hired farmhand.

"Her last words were, 'Go away,'" Mohammed Wahdan said.

1. Human shields.
2. Think before you vote.

751 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:10:16am

re: #736 ploome hineni

re: #702 coquimbojoe

re: #699 ploome hineni


..and yesterday another morally vacant sock puppet, planted propagandist, posted one post after another using different nicsCharles, did you see?


Hey Ploomey! What were some of those nics?

the poster
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

posting under another nic
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

admitting a 'mistake'
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

this poster sound like a 20 yr old undergrad?

Nice work. Medaura is an Albanian by the way. Her first day here she was spraying crap everywhere and I pegged her for a troll. She is far to impressed with her incomplete education and limited experience. Her inconsistency made me wonder. It got to the point where she was just throwing ad hominem attacks at me. I am not sure she is a troll, but if you see her early posts they were far to wordy and trying to get her bona fides out there.

752 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:11:00am

re: #709 Cognito

My answer to all that is: Tough.

Yes, when people make vile comments here, it's going to tar the whole blog. Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle.

The thing to do -- as Charles did -- is to delete those posts with dispatch. And then to stand firm against such junk, not coddle it with comparisons. The argument "That stands in stark contrast to statements and images of CAIR..." does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited. The FBI isn't in the business of measuring out who's worse than whom. It's not a game of moral relativism.

CAIR didn't even give Charles the chance to delete those offending comments - as Charles noted yesterday in his post, they were already running the presser before Charles was even aware of the comments. As far as I know, there was no direct request by CAIR to delete the comments - just straight to the media to smear LGF and to get the FBI involved.

This isn't a game, and CAIR certainly isn't treating it as one. They're out to break all those who stand in their way. Period. They'll use every tool at their disposal, including intimidation and to get law enforcement running in circles to find fault with those who question CAIR and its members, motives, etc.

More thoughts here.

753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:11:08am

re: #738 Kenneth

BBC's North American editor Justin Webb displays his awesome mental powers,

Al-Qaeda's choice

Islamic terrorists want war. They want suffering - among others and their own people alike.

They would surely surmise that McCain will give them what they want.
Bin Laden himself intervened with what many thought was the effect of
keeping President Bush in power in 2004 with that weird tape just
before the poll.

I think al-Qaeda would back McCain - that is not an argument for or
against America backing him, but it seems to me that the vague
assumption that the terrorists would back a lefty is lazy thinking...

That's
it, Jimbo! Yes, I think I understand your thinking...Al Qaeda has
tricked the US into killing them, which is a victory for Osama. But
Obama will surrender to the Islamists, which will be a victory for
America.


Damn, I wish I could get a glamorous, well-paying job like his by being little more than a gibbering idiot.

754 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:11:43am

re: #750 Ben Hur

That is heart-breaking.

755 alegrias  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:12:07am

re: #747 wahabicorridor

More lunacy from the UK


It all went horribly wrong for Kate Badger of Wolverhamption (now a suburb of Birmingham) the day she sent an apple core out of the window of her car.

Ms Badger, a mother of three children, has been charged with: "Knowingly causing the deposit of controlled waste namely an apple core on land which did not have a waste management licence.

If convicted, this 26-year-old mother could be fined %uFFFD20,000 or be imprisioned for six months.


Forbidden Fruit

* * *
Ecofines on English folks are needed to pay for welfare of up to four wives from countries where trash pickup hasn't been invented!

756 CIA Reject  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:12:14am

re: #738 Kenneth

Ah, see? He's run rings around you logically...

Heh.

757 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:12:31am

re: #745 MandyManners
I had forgotten about that one.

758 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:12:38am

re: #741 Honorary Yooper

Uh oh. Anybody know where savage_nation is?

759 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:13:00am
760 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:13:28am

re: #747 wahabicorridor

Finally they are taking some issues SERIOUSLY. Thank goodness there is NOTHING ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT in the UK.

/insane

761 republic  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:13:50am

Look, as long as Charles has his great blog on the net, there are going to be over the top comments from time to time.

Often, over the top comments are shouted down within just a few comments, or someone lets Charles know of them and they are deleted.

I have watched this blog keep itself clean since I've been a Lizard, and there are far fewer over the top comments on here as time goes on.

But please, please don't defend CAIR, for any reason, CAIR is a front for islamofascist human butchers, plain and simple, and there is no defense for that!

I will speak out against CAIR as long as I have the breath of life in me.

762 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:14:01am

re: #747 wahabicorridor

More lunacy from the UK

It all went horribly wrong
for Kate Badger of Wolverhamption (now a suburb of Birmingham) the day
she sent an apple core out of the window of her car.

Ms Badger, a
mother of three children, has been charged with: "Knowingly causing the
deposit of controlled waste namely an apple core on land which did not
have a waste management licence.

If convicted, this 26-year-old mother could be fined %uFFFD20,000 or be imprisioned for six months.


Forbidden Fruit

That is ridiculous, but I can't help myself from making a bad joke. How can the prosecution not Badger the witness?

763 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:14:12am

re: #752 lawhawk

re: #709 Cognito

My answer to all that is: Tough.

Yes, when people make vile comments here, it's going to tar the whole blog. Of course CAIR ignored Charles's guidelines. You expect them to make an extra effort to sort out whether he does or doesn't condone illegal statements? Tough. It's an ideological battle.

The thing to do -- as Charles did -- is to delete those posts with dispatch. And then to stand firm against such junk, not coddle it with comparisons. The argument "That stands in stark contrast to statements and images of CAIR..." does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited. The FBI isn't in the business of measuring out who's worse than whom. It's not a game of moral relativism.

CAIR didn't even give Charles the chance to delete those offending comments - as Charles noted yesterday in his post, they were already running the presser before Charles was even aware of the comments. As far as I know, there was no direct request by CAIR to delete the comments - just straight to the media to smear LGF and to get the FBI involved.

This isn't a game, and CAIR certainly isn't treating it as one. They're out to break all those who stand in their way. Period. They'll use every tool at their disposal, including intimidation and to get law enforcement running in circles to find fault with those who question CAIR and its members, motives, etc.

More thoughts here.

CAIR isn't in the business of giving chances.

But that's not what makes those comments wrong -- being called out by CAIR, I mean. Those comments were wrong all by themselves.

The extra pain provided by CAIR in this instance -- hypocritical though it may be -- will hopefully give some commenters pause before they click 'Post.'

Our side has got to be sharp, in order to be persuasive.

Viva la LGF.

764 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:14:26am
765 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:15:20am
766 gop_patriot  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:15:56am

re: #697 MacGregor

What did the note say?

re: #707 Pro-Bush Canuck

Unlikely, yes... but these days it's becoming less unlikely, isn't it? Sadly, I'm barely even surprised!
/by the way, how are you? :)

767 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:16:11am

re: #750 Ben Hur

Great post.

768 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:16:32am

re: #744 ec marm

re: #733 Golem Akbar


CAIR's primary purpose is to silence the critics of Islamofascism. By any means.

If CAIR has to devote some of their Saudi money to paying the salary of someone to cherry pick the statistically insignificant 'over the top' comment that gets made her, that is that much less money they have to spend on those activities that get them in trouble with the law.


Yes. And it also shows the impact LGF has on the much-larger intellectual world of anti-Islamo-fascists. CAIR would only attack those they fear the most, and the ideas they think will hurt them the most. Charles and company must be doing something right.

769 David Simon  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:16:49am

re: #738 Kenneth

From your link:

I think al-Qaeda would back McCain - that is not an argument for or against America backing him, but it seems to me that the vague assumption that the terrorists would back a lefty is lazy thinking

LMAO! "Lazy" thinking. As if his postmodern crapthink is superior.

770 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:17:07am

re: #764 MandyManners
Here's my favorite, which I named "Flush to Judgement". Starring Dougie.

771 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:17:36am

re: #765 buzzsawmonkey

re: #747 wahabicorridor

Ms Badger, a mother of three children, has been charged with: "Knowingly causing the deposit of controlled waste namely an apple core on land which did not have a waste management licence.

If convicted, this 26-year-old mother could be fined %uFFFD20,000 or be imprisioned for six months.

Good to see that they are coming to grips with core issues in the UK.

I was thinking, since she has 3 kids- all probably still little or in diapers- she may choose the 6 months in jail to get a short vacation and also screw her husband instead of the other way around. Just a thought.

772 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:18:42am

re: #758 wahabicorridor

No, he did mention that he was going to be moving. Might take a couple days or so to get an internet connection. I can only hope for the best. He's a good fella and among friends here.

773 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:18:43am

re: #751 coquimbojoe Morning (or afternoon, depending on where you live!) - I think one of the problems Charles faces out here is that there are sock-puppets or rather people who've been banned from LGF sneaking back in with different nic's, who deliberately post comments designed NOT to inflate their own ego, but simply to hurt Charles and LGF.
I don't have the capability or tecnical know how to find or prove who these people are, but a pattern to their discussion "techniques" and topic matter would seem to give them away.
IIRC, BabbaZee tried to find posts by commenters who made some of the objectionable and offensive comments Charles quite properly deleted, and couldn't find any other posts by some of those posters.
WE ALL NEED to report (it's easy, just hit the friggin report button and then yes) comments that are are calls to violence, especially when directed at specific people, organizations and the like or are otherwise "over the top".
The more zealous we are at reporting these comments, the easier it will be for Charles to delete and in many cases, ban the post and the poster, respectively.

774 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:18:50am
775 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:19:08am

re: #770 ec marm

re: #764 MandyManners
Here's my favorite, which I named "Flush to Judgement". Starring Dougie.

Awesome!

776 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:19:28am

re: #754 MandyManners

re: #750 Ben Hur

That is heart-breaking.


Yes.

It's time to stop this BS.

It's time to look to E Timor as the template.

Disband the PA. Kill as many of FATAH, Islamic Jihad, SAMAH, etc terrorists as possible. Start dialogue from the grassroots level-See article about the Pali Shiek in Hebron meeting with the Hebron mayor to settle a dispute.

START OVER.

Let it come from the people, not from thugs brought in from Tunis.

Or just exand Jordan, get rid of the illegitimate Hashemite Regime from Mecca that was appointed by a past WESTERN colonial power

777 Cognito  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:20:35am

re: #774 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody noticed that Koran-dunkings seem to have stopped as suddenly as they began?

I'm guessing that once the provocateurs realized that you can't commit a "hate crime" against an inanimate book they moved on to exploring other forms of social erosion.

Excellent point!

778 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:20:51am

re: #749 alegrias

Gosh, you're right! I must have conflated those two idiots' names.

779 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:21:02am
780 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:21:30am

re: #776 Ben Hur

Regime change, indeed.

781 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:21:54am

re: #775 MandyManners
Here's another morph starring Dougie...seems appropriate...

782 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:09am

re: #761 republic

I have watched this blog keep itself clean since I've been a Lizard, and there are far fewer over the top comments on here as time goes on.

What's interesting [to me] is how Charles attacks the Euro Neo-Nazis pretending to have an anti-Islamo-fascist agenda. He also attacks Americans who side with these [expletive nazi]individuals. Some have been posters on LGF, and they don't like being attacked like that. They've left in a huff. He's maintained a real middle road that is democratic and rational. That's a good way to succeed and my money is on him beating back the CAIR charges.

783 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:24am

re: #776 Ben Hur

Meanwhile, the Palestinian terrorists want to extend the Kosavar example to the territories. Well, actually more than just the territories. They are contemplating declaring independence. Over what, no one is saying, but you can bet they're not going to limit it to the 48 or 67 or 81 (post Camp David) or 1993 Oslo or even the 2005 Gaza disengagement proposed or de facto borders.

They're going to want the whole kit and caboodle.

784 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:41am
785 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:45am

re: #758 wahabicorridor

re: #741 Honorary Yooper

Uh oh. Anybody know where savage_nation is?


He was in Colorado yesterday, I believe, and heading for California. His Dad is not doing well.

786 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:55am

re: #774 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, the "my holy book got wet hate crime" just didn't resonate with most of the public, so it's back to the drawing board.

787 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:22:58am

re: #758 wahabicorridor Last I heard, he was hightailing it to California; apparently his Dad's condition has taken a turn for the worse.

788 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:23:31am

re: #773 realwest

Real, you pointed out a post that I made yesterday re; Raul Castro. After you pointed it out, I appreciated that you took the time to let me know that it was over the top. When I went back and looked, I was embarassed, reported myself, ...

I am many things but I don't want to be "That guy" that prompts hassles and hardship for Charles or even Stinky. They're both busy enough with out me mucking things up.

Oh yeah, hey CAIR, Sod Off!

That felt good.

789 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:23:33am

re: #781 ec marm

re: #775 MandyManners
Here's another morph starring Dougie...seems appropriate...

I didn't want lunch any way.

790 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:26:28am

Beyond Race and Gender? Victor Davis Hanson hits the nail on the head:

This is apparently the Orwellian Democratic message to the white male:

If you're African-American, then it's OK that you express racial solidarity and vote for Sen. Obama by margins approaching 90 percent — while at the same time white males must prove that they are not racialists by having the courage to 'do the right thing' by likewise voting for an African-American. That apparently would make Michelle Obama proud of her country for the first time in her life.

If you vote for Hillary, likewise you transcend your gender and do the right thing — and so join the legion of feminists for whom her shared womanhood was their signature issue.

But if you were to vote for John McCain? You would, of course, reveal a tribal mentality by forgoing principle and obviously allying yourself along comfortable racial and gender lines.

791 DWalla  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:26:49am
792 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:27:03am

re: #789 MandyManners
Got another one, here.

793 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:27:10am
794 wahabicorridor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:27:42am

re: #785 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #787 realwest


Damn. I didn't know his father was ill. That sucks.
As much as I miss my parents, I'm so glad they don't suffer any more

795 ec marm  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:28:32am

re: #789 MandyManners
One of my favorites. I like the way the maps change.

796 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:29:16am

re: #488 JCM

First off, Good Morning Lizards. cair, just GFY would you?

As for the "Esteemed" Senator from Idaho, would you just STFU and crawl back under your rock! An honorable man would have upheld his promise to resign if his request to with-drawl his plea was denied. But you, Nooo, you somehow feel that you have a right to drag the State of Idaho and your Constituents here in Twin Falls through the mud. Simply put, you're a pathetic digrace to your office and the State of Idaho.

/rant off

797 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:29:21am

re: #790 Kenneth

Well, that has always been how it has been. I have been called a Neanderthal racist for less, so let the name calling start, I am voting for McCain. And I don't even trust or like the guy!

798 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:30:02am

re: #783 lawhawk

re: #776 Ben Hur

Meanwhile, the Palestinian terrorists want to extend the Kosavar example to the territories. Well, actually more than just the territories. They are contemplating declaring independence. Over what, no one is saying, but you can bet they're not going to limit it to the 48 or 67 or 81 (post Camp David) or 1993 Oslo or even the 2005 Gaza disengagement proposed or de facto borders.

They're going to want the whole kit and caboodle.

Yabba Dabba Doo is about as relevent as his dead Hamas terrorist cousin.

799 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:30:52am

re: #748 Cognito

re: #743 realwest


re: #709 Cognito "does nothing to lessen the stupidity -- indeed, the illegality -- of the comments CAIR cited."[emphasis realwest]
How nice of you to play prosecutor, defense counsel, Judge and jury all at one time!
I know Charles thinks you add something to LGF, but I'll be damned if I can think of what that is.

Illegal is illegal. Calls for violence -- dynamite included -- are not protected speech.

And, quite frankly, even Charles notes that up in the disclaimer. He deletes any comments that call for violence.

*Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
*Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.
*Posts that contain phone numbers, addresses, or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
*Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.
*REMEMBER: posting comments at LGF is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and your account will be blocked.

CAIR likes to cherry pick comments and then claim they speak for the whole, never mind they lack the time to read the disclaimer. However, when we call them out on comments said by card carrying CAIR members speaking on behalf of CAIR, they pull their double standard crappola and attempt to smear us.

800 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:31:17am

re: #786 WriterMom

re: #774 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, the "my holy book got wet hate crime" just didn't resonate with most of the public, so it's back to the drawing board.

It's a one-two combination punch. Charges of "Insulting the Koran" will be back. The point of that one is to whip up the ummah. Works every time. The charges of "racists islamophobe" are intended to set liberals and 'progressives' against conservatives. Both techniques have a role to play in the lawfare of jihad.

801 realwest  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:32:28am

re: #788 BulgarWheat Yeah, I remember that my friend. I knew you had sorta lost it there for a minute and would report it once it was pointed out to you.
But you post out here quite often; according to BZ, the comments CAIR complained about - that she'd been able to check - hadn't been made by "regular" posters (i.e., more than, say, one post a month or more). These are sometimes the same people who apparently register here to simply ding down some of the folks who contribute their ideas here much more frequently.
I've also noticed that and complained about it - if I've said something that someone disagrees with, I don't care if they "ding me down" but wish they would post WHY they disagreed with me so that perhaps I - or the other person - could LEARN SOMETHING.
You most assuredly do not fit into that category of a registered LGFer.

802 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:32:54am

re: #792 ec marm

re: #789 MandyManners
Got another one, here.

I LOVE IT!

803 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:32:55am

And something about this CAIR BS.

Now that the CAIR release went MSM, how many of you beleive that the Americans reading the articles are saying to themselves, "Wow, that's really mean of those blogs," rather than "There building an effen what, where?"

I think CAIR has shot itself in the tentacle by giving it more publicity that Gateway ever could.

804 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:34:00am

re: #795 ec marm

re: #789 MandyManners
One of my favorites. I like the way the maps change.

That is spooky.

805 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:34:03am

re: #783 lawhawk

re: #776 Ben Hur

Meanwhile, the Palestinian terrorists want to extend the Kosavar example to the territories. Well, actually more than just the territories. They are contemplating declaring independence. Over what, no one is saying, but you can bet they're not going to limit it to the 48 or 67 or 81 (post Camp David) or 1993 Oslo or even the 2005 Gaza disengagement proposed or de facto borders.

They're going to want the whole kit and caboodle.

I hope they do declare independence.
Then Israel could sever all ties, including all economic links.

806 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:34:48am

I don't know what all the fuss is about, pages from the koran are excellent wood starters when Q'ing pork ribs in my Texas pasture. ;-)

807 coquimbojoe  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:37:06am

re: #773 realwest

re: #751 coquimbojoe Morning (or afternoon, depending on where you live!) - I think one of the problems Charles faces out here is that there are sock-puppets or rather people who've been banned from LGF sneaking back in with different nic's, who deliberately post comments designed NOT to inflate their own ego, but simply to hurt Charles and LGF.
I don't have the capability or tecnical know how to find or prove who these people are, but a pattern to their discussion "techniques" and topic matter would seem to give them away.
IIRC, BabbaZee tried to find posts by commenters who made some of the objectionable and offensive comments Charles quite properly deleted, and couldn't find any other posts by some of those posters.
WE ALL NEED to report (it's easy, just hit the friggin report button and then yes) comments that are are calls to violence, especially when directed at specific people, organizations and the like or are otherwise "over the top".
The more zealous we are at reporting these comments, the easier it will be for Charles to delete and in many cases, ban the post and the poster, respectively.

I agree. I have actually reported two things recently that Charles saw fit to delete or take down. I don't say this with any pride because I am certainly not the arbiter of taste and what is good, but one was basically a snuff film and the other was racist. I don't mind feeling uncomfortable when people post, but there are some things I don't want to be associated with. I figure Charles is the best decider of what should be here. If I alert him, he can decide where to go. I for one don't want to be associated with a 'hate' site.

808 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:38:26am

I believe that LGF'ers becoming ombudsmen for posters is wrong!|

809 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:40:08am

Sounds like junior high tattletales, Lord knows I have made some bad posts in the past, but it's up to me and Charles to police ME!

810 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:40:11am

re: #791 DWalla

Nice article. I recognize that guy. He's me.

811 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:42:57am

re: #801 realwest

Thanks, Real. It's been said, only a real friend is able to let you know when you've left your fly open. Heh!

812 chubby vegan  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:43:07am

re: #145 pingjockey

Where in the hell did "His Vagueness" come from. The most perfect moniker of perfect monikers.

813 BulgarWheat  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:43:34am

Jumping over to the new thread.

814 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:44:03am
815 MacGregor  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:45:12am

re: #766 gop_patriot

re: #697 MacGregor

What did the note say?

This

816 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:47:47am
817 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:49:05am

re: #816 ploome hineni

YUP!

818 musicman  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:52:36am

re: #697 MacGregor

Political Censorship at Yahoo Mail:
This note seems to be undeliverable to yahoo mail recipients:

Speaking of google, here they are censoring conservatives again:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Curious- When I try to send this, yahoo rejects it with a policy note.

I just tried to e-mail it to myself and got the same thing. I have a POP3 account with Yahoo.

819 sparrowlake  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 9:59:45am

re: #816 ploome hineni

Yes, and as a relative neophyte I have seen lots of cliquish behaviour too. Hopefully LGF posters will not allow themselves to be terrorized into excessive self-cencorship, because that would hand CAIR a victory.

820 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 10:39:01am

re: #805 sparrowlake

Not to mention fuel and electricity. Let Egypt handle the problem. Oh! wait, Egypt said the would shoot anybody trying to cross the border

821 akak  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 10:52:15am

re: #404 realwest

forgot the sarc tag/

822 tommygum  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 10:56:17am

re: #245 3 wood

re: #245 3 wood

re: #188 lawhawk

Offering deliverance? From what to whom? And it's funny that the leftists were busy complaining when Bush got cozy with Christian fundamentalists? Here, their presumptive nominee and his various supporters are busy using the same language and no one bats an eye.

Nice.

But it's okay when it's one of theirs.

Chris Matthews might as well just have his pants around his ankles when he talks about Obama. They don't even try to pretend to be objective anymore.

More like Hussein with HIS pants down.

823 tommygum  Wed, Feb 20, 2008 11:09:11am