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A 'Correction' from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch?

Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:07:30 am PST

Here’s an email received from the Assistant Managing Editor of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, on their uncritical, irresponsible reporting of CAIR propaganda:

Dear Mr. Johnson:

Copies of your blog postings and your exchange with reporter Tim Townsend have been forwarded to me.

First, let me inform you that the following correction will be run in tomorrow’s edition: “Due to an editing error, a story in Wednesday’s Metro section did not correctly describe those making online comments about the Islamic Community Center in St. Louis. The writer Kathi on the blog ”Gateway Pundit“ and writers Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler on the blog ”Little Green Footballs“ had written comments on those blogs. They were not the authors of those blogs.”
For any possible confusion by readers over the description of those who made comments on your blog, I apologize. For what it’s worth, I want you personally to know that an editor handling Tim’s story added the inaccurate word “blogger” to describe the comment writers and that the error was not Tim’s.

Outside of the above, however, I believe that Tim’s article was absolutely responsible and accurate and in no way was a “smear job,” as you have characterized it. In fact, Tim made no characterization whatsoever about your site other than saying it is where some of these comments appeared and that your blog had linked to the local ”Gateway Pundit” blog here.
That is also the reason that he did not feel compelled to get a response from you for this particular story. At issue here were the comments in question, not your blog posting. No one in the article was criticizing or questioning you or your blog or holding you responsible for those comments.

Thanks for your time.

Sincerely,
Adam Goodman
Assistant Managing Editor/Metro
St. Louis Post-Dispatch

“No one was criticizing you or your blog?” I suppose you could say that, if you overlooked the fact that the entire story was published at the behest of a radical Islamic front group, seeking to damage LGF and silence critics. And if you overlook the fact that CAIR was, once again, referred to as a “civil rights group” with no acknowledgement of their well-documented connections to radical groups, or their status as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas funding case.

There was no apology for Townsend’s rude, childish, and insulting tone, of course; which tells you this behavior is not a problem with editors of the Post-Dispatch.

And the CAIR hit piece, unchanged, is still the top story in their ‘Religion’ section.

Also see Lawhawk: CAIR’s Blog Bashing Get Picked Up By Uncurious Media.

UPDATE at 2/21/08 11:41:22 am:

Also see Ace: LGF Gets a Correction from the MSM.

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1 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:08:21 am reply quote

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.

(I'm just lovin' this line)

2 abolitionist  2/21/08 9:09:59 am reply quote

I wonder what page they run corrections on.

3 Charles  2/21/08 9:11:05 am reply quote

re: #2 abolitionist

I wonder what page they run corrections on.

It's linked right up above.

4 coquimbojoe  2/21/08 9:11:11 am reply quote

Someone could see the shit storm coming their way and flinched....

5 RaiderDan  2/21/08 9:11:14 am reply quote

Still, getting a correction out of a newspaper is a big deal.

Bravo Charles.


Tim Townsend probably got called into the editors office on this one. Thats pretty much all you can hope for. Still, Townsend should have called you for comment.

6 Ben Hur  2/21/08 9:12:36 am reply quote

Timmy got a time out.

7 X-ray  2/21/08 9:12:58 am reply quote

Correction is now up at web site.

Due to an editing error, a story in Wednesday's Metro section did not correctly describe those making online comments about the Islamic Community Center in St. Louis. The writer Kathi on the blog "Gateway Pundit" and writers Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler on the blog "Little Green Footballs" had written comments on those blogs. They were not the authors of those blogs.

8 FrogMarch  2/21/08 9:13:13 am reply quote

the lazy left-wing media lacks any intellectual curiosity. They have a template and an agenda -

9 loppyd  2/21/08 9:13:55 am reply quote

re: #1 Occasional Reader

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.

(I'm just lovin' this line)

It does have staying power....

10 rappmandu  2/21/08 9:13:56 am reply quote

An assistant managing editor handling this really just ridiculous. I knew that they'd pull this. After all, they're miserable and work at a miserable job for a miserable publication.

11 loppyd  2/21/08 9:14:16 am reply quote

re: #6 Ben Hur

Timmy got a time out.

No TV for a week.

12 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:14:21 am reply quote
had written comments on those blogs. They were not the authors of those blogs

Perhaps the P-D would also be so kind as to note that the inflammatory comments were deleted by Charles?

13 cygnus  2/21/08 9:14:22 am reply quote

re: #2 abolitionist

I wonder what page they run corrections on.

Next to the 'legal notices' waay back in the classifieds.

14 loppyd  2/21/08 9:14:58 am reply quote

re: #13 cygnus

re: #2 abolitionist

I wonder what page they run corrections on.

Next to the 'legal notices' waay back in the classifieds.

I read those. LOL

15 Kenneth  2/21/08 9:15:03 am reply quote

No apology, but the St. Louis Post-Dispatch did run this raving moonbat editorial today:

Arsenal of secrecy

Given President George W. Bush's predilection for ignoring laws he doesn't agree with, it wouldn't be entirely surprising to discover he'd decided the 20th Amendment was no longer applicable and that he'll be staying on after next Jan. 20.

In his seven years in office, the 43rd president has appended "signing statements" to more than 750 bills, more than all 42 of his predecessors combined. In them, Mr. Bush reserves the right to ignore or change any part of the law that he believes infringes on his own executive powers.

Oh dear. The old "Bush is not going to leave" paranoia, again.

16 newsjunkie_ky  2/21/08 9:15:19 am reply quote

Oooooo, we are WRITERS, wow.

17 loppyd  2/21/08 9:15:55 am reply quote

lunchtime already?

I really know how to waste a morning....

BBL

18 firebreather  2/21/08 9:15:56 am reply quote

That's why newspapers are called "Rags" & "Fish Wraps."

How many trees have been slaughtered so that this crappy little paper can peddle Left-wing propaganda?

19 rappmandu  2/21/08 9:16:17 am reply quote

This is not at all about an editing error. It is willful shilling for CAIR and appallingly shameless violation of basic tenents of Journalism 101.

20 cygnus  2/21/08 9:16:50 am reply quote

RE: #18 - How ironic!

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  2/21/08 9:17:39 am reply quote

I would like to thank the St Louis Post for providing this correction and letter. It is a perfect illustration of what is wrong with the media today and why people are loosing their confidence in it daily.

22 newsjunkie_ky  2/21/08 9:17:40 am reply quote

re: #15 Kenneth

No apology, but the St. Louis Post-Dispatch did run this raving moonbat editorial today:

23 Charles  2/21/08 9:17:47 am reply quote

re: #7 X-ray

Correction is now up at web site.

Due to an editing error, a story in Wednesday's Metro section did not correctly describe those making online comments about the Islamic Community Center in St. Louis. The writer Kathi on the blog "Gateway Pundit" and writers Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler on the blog "Little Green Footballs" had written comments on those blogs. They were not the authors of those blogs.

Where? It's not on the corrections page.

24 smcg  2/21/08 9:18:03 am reply quote

not a very gracious apology. perhaps tt was reprimanded and this editor's defence of him is just a way to keep that behind closed doors.

25 cookielady  2/21/08 9:18:04 am reply quote

Charles, please don't put in the extra effort of holding your breath for the Post-Dispatch to do the right and honorable thing. That paper and the people that run and work for it lost all integrity many years ago, and I'm surprised that it is able to continue to publish. Like the NYT, their sales continue to drop year by year, and only the rabid Democrat St. Louis area crowd actually still reads the thing. All the rest of us just sneer at anything that comes out of it, and people refuse subscription offers. The last time I got a call I told the telemarketer flat out: I will never have that biased liberal slandersheet in my house, so don't bother calling me again.

26 Desert Dog  2/21/08 9:18:22 am reply quote

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27 Cognito  2/21/08 9:18:27 am reply quote

Charles,

I love your blog and I'm here all the time. So I say this with respect and affection:

You gotta get over this.

This editor sent you a nice note, and plans to run a correction about the element in their story that was wrong: That the dastardly text was "comments" not "posts."

The editor sent you a grownup note, in contrast to Townsend's exchange, and when you hold it up very publicly and complain about what are, frankly, niggling details, it makes you appear impossible to please and -- just being honest -- a bit outclassed by the editor.

The crux of the matter is this: People here made some outrageous, and likely illegal, comments. It's not CAIR. Not the newspaper reporter. Not his editor. It's those comments. You deleted them as quickly as you could, but it was too late, and the predatory CAIR seized on them. It's no one's fault but the commentators themselves.

28 firebreather  2/21/08 9:18:28 am reply quote

Let's see...some people in the Obama campaign fear that there may have been an appearance that Obama had an affair with a lobbyist back in the year 2000.

Does the NY Times print THAT story?

All big city papers are left-wing propaganda rags.

29 victor_yugo  2/21/08 9:18:35 am reply quote

Curiously uncurious media.

About two steps below "slime mold."

We'll dance on the grave of their morally bankrupt tinpot enterprise.

30 Wookieelips  2/21/08 9:18:36 am reply quote

That's it.
We need a massive campaign to get the American Islamic Forum for Democracy on TV/ in the MSM speaking for muslims, not CAIR.
I understand they don't have the Saudi money that CAIR does, but something has to be done. CAIR does NOT speak for all muslims, and their membership is not as large as they want us all to believe. They are criminals and agitators.

Why does every news outlet in the country listen to them?
This is disgusting.

31 cookielady  2/21/08 9:18:48 am reply quote

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33 Mr. Beamish  2/21/08 9:19:06 am reply quote

This is the same paper that described the nine candidates for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2004 as "a field of diversity"

[Presumably because of the two anti-Semites, Al Sharpton and Carol Mosely-Braun, and the one Jew, Joseph Lieberman]

It's not called the St. Louis Post Distort by thinking St. Louisans for no reason.

34 buzzsawmonkey  2/21/08 9:19:13 am reply quote

re: #6 Ben Hur

Timmy got a time out.

That's right, boys and girls--tune in today to Timmy Townsend Time-out Time!

35 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:19:23 am reply quote
And if you overlook the fact that CAIR was, once again, referred to as a “civil rights group”


I like it even more when they're just matter-of-factly described as "representing Muslims in America". Gosh, when was the election? I must have missed it.

36 musicman  2/21/08 9:19:34 am reply quote

I'm reading it right now.

37 cygnus  2/21/08 9:20:18 am reply quote

re: #32 MandyManners

I found this photograph of Timmy when he was born.

I hope it was a breech birth. OUCH!

38 sparrowlake  2/21/08 9:20:38 am reply quote
"No one in the article was criticizing or questioning you or your blog or holding you responsible for those comments."

That is what they should print at a bare minimum.

39 MellyMel  2/21/08 9:20:58 am reply quote

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40 CIA Reject  2/21/08 9:21:00 am reply quote

So let me get this straight: they're apologizing for smearing you while they blindly published islamicist propaganda from known a group linked to kknown terrorists- only they say they really didn't smear you.

I swear the older I get the more I think I'm channeling Cpl. Agarn:
"OK, that makes sense- not to ME, but it makes sense."

41 Dar ul Harb  2/21/08 9:21:11 am reply quote

re: #26 Desert Dog

re: #15 Kenneth

What will they write about when Bush is gone? Their lives will have no meaning

A: They're gonna have as much fun tearing down President McCain as they had building him up.

42 musicman  2/21/08 9:21:19 am reply quote

Correction

Second paragraph

43 gman  2/21/08 9:21:25 am reply quote

CAIR is a self-proclaimed civil rights group. Anyone that agrees with the claim that they are a civil rights group is shilling for them.

Ladies and Gents, the facts speak for themselves:

CAIR promotes a radical Islamic vision, as evidenced by the fact that its co-founder Omar Ahmad told a Fremont, California audience in July 1998: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." In a similar spirit, co-founder Ibrahim Hooper told a reporter in 1993: "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future." In 2003 Hooper stated that if Muslims ever become a majority in the United States, they will likely seek to replace the U.S. Constitution with Islamic law, which they deem superior to man-made law. In the late 1980s, Ihsan Bagby, who would later become a CAIR Board member, stated that Muslims "can never be full citizens of this country," referring to the United States, "because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country."

44 victor_yugo  2/21/08 9:21:28 am reply quote

re: #27 Cognito

it makes you appear impossible to please and -- just being honest -- a bit outclassed by the editor.

Outclassed by an editor who refuses to print, or even admit, the truth about CAIR?

Maybe you should get over yourself, Cog.

45 firebreather  2/21/08 9:21:32 am reply quote

Being a committed Leftist in the media means never having to admit you're wrong or print a retraction when your lies are subjected to scrutiny.

See Jenin.

See Jason Blair.

See Dan Rather.

See Reuters.

46 zombie  2/21/08 9:21:33 am reply quote

The corporation that owns the San Jose Mercury-News, the Contra Costa Times, the Oakland Tribune and dozens of other California newspapers just announced that are "offering buyouts" to ALL of their employees - ahead of a planned massive layoff next month.

They may shed as much as 50% of their entire newsroom staffs.

Every day, somewhere in the country, you'll see a similar story.

The entire newspaper industry is in meltdown. There is panic.

And they can't figure out what is happening to them.

I'll give them a clue:

It is the sanctimonious imperial attitude displayed by the editors, who believe themselves to be higher powers gracing earth with their presence; coupled with the snotty, unapologetic left-wing "advocacy journalism" of the reporters.

A nauseating brew. And for the first time, the general public is getting a glimpse at it.

Tim Townsend, Adam Goodman and their ilk are destroying the newspaper industry.

Good riddance.

47 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:21:54 am reply quote

I'm sure that if some sort of "American Christian Society" had several board members convicted of funding abortion clinic bombings, the press wouldn't just kinda sorta forget to mention this little detail when citing the Society in news stories.

48 nikis-knight  2/21/08 9:21:55 am reply quote

On the one hand, mixing up blogger and commenter was the key factual error in thier piece, so that is what they should be retracting.

On the otherhand, acting as a PR firm for CAIR when you pretend to be a newspaper is a bigger issue than a factual error.

49 bodrules  2/21/08 9:21:55 am reply quote

Still reckon those comments were planted by CAIR sockpuppets

50 ploome hineni  2/21/08 9:22:03 am reply quote

St. Louis Post-Dispatch does not think it is important to notify the reader that CAIR is an unindicted co conspirator in Federal Gov't cases involving funding terrorist groups?

is this not important fact to evaluate the validity of CAIRs' claims and agenda ?

and why did the author of this article not mention, that these were 'cherry picked' comments, removed that same morning?

51 friarstale  2/21/08 9:22:13 am reply quote

why, Charles, we weren't criticizing you or your islamophobic blog or your racist posters whatsoever
what could possibly have given your racist little brain that idea?
Sincerely,
The St.Louis Post, peace be upon us

/lol

52 smcg  2/21/08 9:22:16 am reply quote

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53 X-ray  2/21/08 9:22:29 am reply quote

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54 3 wood  2/21/08 9:22:36 am reply quote

So, they quote some posts from your blog and still justify not touching base with you for comment. Typical. At least you are getting some sort of a clarification.

Notice that the "attitude" you got from the reporter was not addressed.

Just another example of why I loath the media.

55 David Simon  2/21/08 9:22:39 am reply quote

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56 Bubblehead II  2/21/08 9:22:53 am reply quote

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57 ploome hineni  2/21/08 9:23:06 am reply quote

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58 Dar ul Harb  2/21/08 9:23:12 am reply quote

re: #41 Dar ul Harb

re: #26 Desert Dog

re: #15 Kenneth

What will they write about when Bush is gone? Their lives will have no meaning

A: They're gonna have as much fun tearing down President McCain as they had building him up.

Or alternatively: They're going to have as much fun covering up President O... oh, I just can't say it.

59 jcm  2/21/08 9:23:19 am reply quote

re: #41 Dar ul Harb

A: They're gonna have as much fun tearing down President McCain as they had building him up.

Already started the NYSlimes is running a McCain story they sat on for a year.

60 firebreather  2/21/08 9:23:27 am reply quote

The left-wing media has had its collective tongue firmly inserted in CAIR's rectum for years.

61 bodrules  2/21/08 9:24:07 am reply quote

these muslim pressure groups are all the same the world over - seethe, whine, complain, ignore the beam in their own eyes etc

62 antishock8  2/21/08 9:24:10 am reply quote

Well, this is what I wrote to the editors, prior to seeing this thread:

Good Afternoon,


I'm sure you're aware of the exchange between Tim Townsend and the conservative blog Little Green Footballs by Charles Johnson. I'll decline to talk about the sophomoric exchange between the two, but am disturbed by Mr. Townsend's lack of vetting Islamic PR organizations like CAIR before printing their propaganda.

If you're interested, I've attached the Pentagon's Islamic law specialist, MAJ Stephen Coughlin's master thesis on extremist Islam, and why we should pay attention to what they're saying about themselves and their aims. I think anyone hoping to implement Sharia law to any degree is an enemy of progressivism, liberty, and equality. I hope you and your paper examines the ties between Islamic advocates and organizations that support terrorism and Sharia law before inadvertantly allowing them a platform to espouse their oppressive ideologies.

Thanks, and have a good day.

V/R
XXXX XXXXXX

---------

I think that's about as much as you can expect from a media type. They try to balance their egos with their sense of *cough* social justice *cough*.

63 Carolyn  2/21/08 9:24:22 am reply quote

re: #35 Occasional Reader

And if you overlook the fact that CAIR was, once again, referred to as a “civil rights group”


I like it even more when they're just matter-of-factly described as "representing Muslims in America". Gosh, when was the election? I must have missed it.

What is the percentage of moslems in the US now?
Just wait until they have 15%....20%
Apologists in print, all of them.

64 abolitionist  2/21/08 9:24:25 am reply quote

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65 Desert Dog  2/21/08 9:24:58 am reply quote

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66 rappmandu  2/21/08 9:24:59 am reply quote

Just let CAIR attack you all they want via their MSM dhimmis. Then, when they issue their pathetic, intelligence-belittling non-apology, non-corrections, don't pursue the matter further.

Just get over it.

/

67 cookielady  2/21/08 9:25:03 am reply quote

Ah, the real Cognito is back. I was a little worried for a while there, as I was enjoying and agreeing with C's comments.

Scared me!

68 buzzsawmonkey  2/21/08 9:25:10 am reply quote

The writer of the "correction" seems woefully unfamiliar with the blogs, or the basic jargon of them; threads, head stories, comments, etc.

The traditional media seem to have an attitude towards blogs not unlike that of Ray Nagin towards Katrina; ignore and it will go away.

69 sparrowlake  2/21/08 9:25:29 am reply quote

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70 BuddyG  2/21/08 9:25:41 am reply quote

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71 Jack Reacher  2/21/08 9:25:45 am reply quote

So if a Legacy Media ™ source receives a press release from a left-wing or Islamist source (A bit redundant), it's printed as news. If they receive a report criticizing a left-winger, the source is investigated and those critical of the source are provided a free forum to smear said source (See Swift Boat Veterans for Truth).

Got it.

72 Bubblehead II  2/21/08 9:25:47 am reply quote

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73 gman  2/21/08 9:25:50 am reply quote

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74 Kenneth  2/21/08 9:26:00 am reply quote

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75 Ringo the Gringo  2/21/08 9:26:01 am reply quote

The "correction" is up now:

www.stltoday.com...] target="_blank">


Due to an editing error, a story in Wednesday's Metro section did not correctly describe those making online comments about the Islamic Community Center in St. Louis. The writer Kathi on the blog "Gateway Pundit" and writers Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler on the blog "Little Green Footballs" had written comments on those blogs. They were not the authors of those blogs.
76 lawhawk  2/21/08 9:26:31 am reply quote

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77 Dov (In the Astrodome City) Republic of Texas  2/21/08 9:26:53 am reply quote

Who cares about cair ? No one but themselves.

78 tommygum  2/21/08 9:27:00 am reply quote

re: #25 cookielady

Charles, please don't put in the extra effort of holding your breath for the Post-Dispatch to do the right and honorable thing. That paper and the people that run and work for it lost all integrity many years ago, and I'm surprised that it is able to continue to publish. Like the NYT, their sales continue to drop year by year, and only the rabid Democrat St. Louis area crowd actually still reads the thing. All the rest of us just sneer at anything that comes out of it, and people refuse subscription offers. The last time I got a call I told the telemarketer flat out: I will never have that biased liberal slandersheet in my house, so don't bother calling me again.

Our house did the same thing with Newsday. My mother said "your newspaper is far too liberal for our household".

79 coquimbojoe  2/21/08 9:27:06 am reply quote

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80 Ringo the Gringo  2/21/08 9:27:19 am reply quote

Correction LINK

81 victor_yugo  2/21/08 9:27:24 am reply quote

re: #19 rappmandu

This is not at all about an editing error. It is willful shilling for CAIR and appallingly shameless violation of basic tenents of Journalism 101.

Yeah, what he said.

This was not an editing error!

This was a problem at the source: CAIR and their willing mouthpiece in St. Louis, Tim Townsend. The only "error" on the part of any editor(s) is the willingness to let CAIR's propaganda go, unchallenged, into their product.

82 nikis-knight  2/21/08 9:27:25 am reply quote
And if you overlook the fact that CAIR was, once again, referred to as a “civil rights group” with no acknowledgement of their well-documented connections to radical groups, or their status as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas funding case.

That's kind of like the inevitable "prophet" title given to Mohammed in any article.
"Cartoons showing the Prophet Mohammed", etc.

83 Desert Dog  2/21/08 9:27:27 am reply quote

When I read the paper, I turn right to the "corrections" page, don't you? They got their message across loud and clear and the fact that they "corrected" it is beside the point.....Why does the left in this country seem so comfortable with the darker side of Islam? PC gone wild?

84 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:27:42 am reply quote

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85 MandyManners  2/21/08 9:27:44 am reply quote

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86 65droptop  2/21/08 9:28:30 am reply quote

Prepare for more from CAIR.
This is just the first salvo.
Where is the outrage? Right here.

87 gymnast  2/21/08 9:28:31 am reply quote

re: #46 zombie

The corporation that owns the San Jose Mercury-News, the Contra Costa Times, the Oakland Tribune and dozens of other California newspapers just announced that are "offering buyouts" to ALL of their employees - ahead of a planned massive layoff next month.

They may shed as much as 50% of their entire newsroom staffs.

Every day, somewhere in the country, you'll see a similar story.

The entire newspaper industry is in meltdown. There is panic.

And they can't figure out what is happening to them.

I'll give them a clue:

It is the sanctimonious imperial attitude displayed by the editors, who believe themselves to be higher powers gracing earth with their presence; coupled with the snotty, unapologetic left-wing "advocacy journalism" of the reporters.

A nauseating brew. And for the first time, the general public is getting a glimpse at it.

Tim Townsend, Adam Goodman and their ilk are destroying the newspaper industry.

Good riddance.

Perhaps "the people who buy ink by the barrel" are not aware that "little people like us" buy bytes by the trillions at far less cost than they pay for their ink and reprocessed trees. I do not need to pay to put up with their shit to get get news.

88 Russkilitlover  2/21/08 9:28:42 am reply quote

re: #9 loppyd

re: #1 Occasional Reader


For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.

(I'm just lovin' this line)


It does have staying power....

Fixed it. Could do without the first part.

"Brevity, brevity, brevity. Talk briefly of big things."
- A. Chekhov

89 victor_yugo  2/21/08 9:28:43 am reply quote

re: #70 BuddyG

re: #27 Cognito

It is CAIR. They brought the matter up.

In the form of a minaret.

90 reine.de.tout  2/21/08 9:28:49 am reply quote

From Goodman's letter:

Tim made no characterization whatsoever about your site other than saying it is where some of these comments appeared and that your blog had linked to the local ”Gateway Pundit” blog here.
That is also the reason that he did not feel compelled to get a response from you for this particular story.

This is just rubbish. Any real reporter worth anything would feel ethically, morally and professionally "compelled" to get responses from anyone mentioned in a story in the way that LGF was mentioned. I wonder if that reporter contacted anyone at Gateway Pundit, since this guy seems to imply that "Gateway Pundit" was the intended "culprit"? I doubt it.

91 nyc redneck  2/21/08 9:29:08 am reply quote

this doesn't sound like a real "apology" from the assistant managing ed. it sounds like some begrudging words w/ an under tone of "ok go away now"

92 rappmandu  2/21/08 9:29:19 am reply quote

Not the editor, not the managing editor, but the assistant managing editor. A dam Good man, though, I presume.

93 Killgore Trout  2/21/08 9:29:23 am reply quote

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94 Kenneth  2/21/08 9:29:26 am reply quote

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95 zmdavid  2/21/08 9:29:33 am reply quote

They don't acknowledge that CAIR has been discredited. That is why they're retraction is limited to the commenter/blogger distinction. If they actually questioned CAIR's credentials as a civil rights group, they might be forced to scrutinize other suspect groups/organizations that make their life easier by issuing slanted press releases that they can report as news.

96 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:29:58 am reply quote

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97 Jack Reacher  2/21/08 9:30:17 am reply quote

re: #63 Carolyn



What is the percentage of moslems in the US now?
Just wait until they have 15%....20%
Apologists in print, all of them.

Well, let's see...

900 million Muslims*, 320 million population, ummm....Muslims appear to be 281% of the U.S. population.
*Extrapolated from CAIR claims ;)

98 buzzsawmonkey  2/21/08 9:30:29 am reply quote

Relax, everyone; it's just a Marcel Duchamp moment: crude condescending in CAIR case.

99 firebreather  2/21/08 9:31:02 am reply quote

"CAIR, a civil rights group that merely seeks to protect Muslims from a frenzied, racist, Islamophobic America that is hellbent on killing Muslims & undermining the great & peaceful religion of Islam, is under monumental attack from hate-filled right-wing bloggers..."

--MSM, spittle-flecked denizens of Berkeley/Hollywood/Upper Manhattan, 97& of all professors in the Humanities...

100 Reluctant Democrat  2/21/08 9:31:06 am reply quote

Speaking of the MSM, I hope they read Debbie Schlussel and her analysis of an article about the NIU shooter and his radical Islamic friends: NIU Shooter and his Islamist Friends

101 Ringo the Gringo  2/21/08 9:31:16 am reply quote
Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler

I've been here for quite a few years and I don't recall either of these commentors.

102 buzzsawmonkey  2/21/08 9:31:42 am reply quote

re: #101 Ringo the Gringo

Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler

I've been here for quite a few years and I don't recall either of these commentors.

I've seen the first, not the second.

103 Killgore Trout  2/21/08 9:32:06 am reply quote

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104 MellyMel  2/21/08 9:32:14 am reply quote

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105 Occasional Reader  2/21/08 9:32:52 am reply quote

re: #101 Ringo the Gringo

Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler

I've been here for quite a few years and I don't recall either of these commentors.

Nor do I. Short-termers, dropped turds on a thread, quickly got deleted. But of course they're the real story, right Cognito? Come on.

106 Ringo the Gringo  2/21/08 9:32:55 am reply quote

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108 CIA Reject  2/21/08 9:33:11 am reply quote

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re: #25 cookielady

Charles, please don't put in the extra effort of holding your breath for the Post-Dispatch to do the right and honorable thing. That paper and the people that run and work for it lost all integrity many years ago, and I'm surprised that it is able to continue to publish. Like the NYT, their sales continue to drop year by year, and only the rabid Democrat St. Louis area crowd actually still reads the thing. All the rest of us just sneer at anything that comes out of it, and people refuse subscription offers. The last time I got a call I told the telemarketer flat out: I will never have that biased liberal slandersheet in my house, so don't bother calling me again.

Our house did the same thing with Newsday. My mother said "your newspaper is far too liberal for our household".

When some "news" paper/magazine salesdriod occasionally calls my home asking me to subscribe I always tell them:

"I don't need it"

When they ask "why" I tell them:

"My dog is housebroken and my parakeet died"

That usually ends the conversation.

109 Tigger2005  2/21/08 9:33:47 am reply quote

Personally I think it would be quite mature to tell these tools to go kiss the asses of their new Islamic overlords.

110 cookielady  2/21/08 9:33:57 am reply quote

re: #101 Ringo the Gringo

Amer1can and Arthur E. Hippler

I've been here for quite a few years and I