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 RetweetMichelle Obama: America is 'Just Downright Mean'

Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:24:43 pm PST

Barack Obama’s wife Michelle is quoted in New Yorker Magazine saying America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents, and we’re “just downright mean.”

Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

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1 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:25:45pm

Mean people suck

2 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:26:41pm

That's right, Michelle... I might just be mean.
Come around here and I'll give you a spankin'.
hehe

3 Lively  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:27:19pm

Has someone been makin' fun of the ears? Stop it, now.

4 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:27:26pm

I think it is mean to post anything about Michelle Obama saying that Americans are mean.

/overheard at you local Starbucks.

5 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:27:30pm
America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents, and we’re “just downright mean.”

She must be reading Kos and HuffPo.

6 padre  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:27:42pm

That's what her church teaches.

Not mine.

7 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:27:49pm

This is her on a 'good pride' day.

8 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:18pm

Mean America
Build you up then tear you down
She's no longer proud

9 maddogg  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:24pm

Don't like it? GTFO.

10 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:34pm

A divided country. You mean, like her church supporting "blackness"?

11 children of iluvatar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:36pm

in 16 years we will be electing her president.

12 antishock8  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:37pm

Keep that fat mouth yappin', Michelle. Every time you speak up Hillary picks up delegates. I'm going to love to see this crazy person during the Presidential elections if she doesn't manage to sabotage the Obama campaign...

13 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:41pm

PLEASE let this woman keep talking.

Keep the hits comin', Michelle.

14 sparrowlake  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:49pm

No wonder she's really proud.

15 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:55pm

Somebody call the waaambulance.

16 Sounder  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:28:56pm

Ya, well. America is to be destroyed from within, isn't it? Lefty loons despise America. Everything is America's fault. Why am I not surprised? Destroyer Obama on the way.

17 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:03pm

re: #12 antishock8

GMTA, etc.

18 Lively  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:26pm

If you want to see 'mean', check out Kos.

19 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:28pm

think abt. that hateful angry witch as first lady.
not a pretty picture.

20 kcladderman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:38pm

Let me guess. A vote for Obama will put us back on the path of righteousness and good.

21 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:39pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

PLEASE let this woman keep talking.

Keep the hits comin', Michelle.

Bless U

22 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:29:45pm

doggone jammed up, too!

23 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:04pm
24 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:06pm

Michelle Obama--- The gift that keeps on giving!

25 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:07pm
Obama was playing to her audience—later she riffed on “those relatives who have plastic on the furniture”

So why don't you send them some money for remodeling, Michelle? You're rich enough.

26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:37pm

She keeps trying for her "gin-soaked raisins" moment, doesnt she?

27 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:37pm

She's plagiarizing Jimmy Carter's malaise speech.

28 bolivar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:30:49pm

Gee I always thought we were the good guys - you know the white hats come ridin in to save the day. No - we are mean huh?

The venom and bile spewed by the left should be the example huh babe? You want to see mean - look in your parties sleazy backyard. THEY are mean, vile, disgusting, purile, juvenile and just about any other nasty word you can come up with. And that is the clean version now if you want the nasty one you will have to go the the Daily Kos or DU because we just don't talk like that around this ranch. We are civilized and we use spitoons and everythin'.

29 CIA Reject  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:09pm

"...we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents."

Trying to energize the liberal base I see...

30 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:13pm

re: #27 Ward Cleaver

She's plagiarizing Jimmy Carter's malaise speech.

Now that's a scary thought!

31 Wisenheimer  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:14pm

And you'd rather live where?

32 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:14pm

She's just pissed she won't be getting her tax rebate check

33 Lively  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:19pm

I think Michelle and Bill should debate next.

34 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:43pm
From these bleak generalities, Obama moves into specific complaints. Used to be, she will say, that you could count on a decent education in the neighborhood. But now there are all these charter schools and magnet schools that you have to “finagle” to get into. (Obama herself attended a magnet school, but never mind.)

This sentence appeared in a New Yorker article?! I'm stunned.

35 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:31:53pm

Was there ever a time when we were nice in her opinion?

36 Oingo Boingo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:32:20pm

Oingo Boingo: Michele Obama is just downright moronic.

MO, if you ain't like'n it here, then get the hell out. I'm sure that scuzbag running Venezuela can find something for you to do.

37 Fo knee ix  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:32:49pm

But don't question their patriotism.

/

38 Lively  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:33:12pm

re: #35 Ringo the Gringo

Was there ever a time when we were nice in her opinion?

Yeah, when her husband had back to back primary victories.

39 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:33:22pm

Omarosa

40 ArmyAunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:33:24pm

I just emailed Drudge with this crap.
Hope he jumps on it.

41 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:33:53pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lovey!...They're making fun of your raisins again!

42 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:34:04pm

Since america is so mean, maybe obama-mama might consider moving to a "nicer" place in the world with "more culture" like sudan, afghanistan, iran, indonesia, or any other 3rd world craphole.

43 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:34:16pm

She didn't say "cynics, sloths, and complacents," any more than Cagney said, "You dirty rat."

44 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:34:49pm

re: #39 Shug

Omarosa

Perfect.

45 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:34:55pm

America: Triflin', downright mean, jammed-up finaglers!

/doggone it

46 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:18pm
In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”

Yes, Michelle, and that's why we love* you.

*(With "love" being defined in a certain, very special way for purposes of this sentence.)

47 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:24pm

The libs are just following your lead.

48 CIA Reject  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:26pm

Oh, and Michelle: please, please, please KEEP TALKING! No matter what they do to try to shut you up just KEEP TALKING- remember this is America where it is your inalienable right to make a COMPLETE @SSHOLE OF YOURSELF at the expense of your husband's political career!

/You go girl!

49 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:33pm

how can some one, who has so much, be so thankless?
haters are ugly people.

50 Boats  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:35pm

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Your fellow lefties, like The Swimmer, Jacques F'ing sKerry, Dick Turban, and Chuck da Schmuck made the bed you don't want to sleep in you Hyde Park Jekyll.

51 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:51pm

re: #27 Ward Cleaver

Good luck with that . Helped Jimmy huh?

52 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:35:56pm

Hey, Michelle, you can always move to Kenya. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

53 indomeisje  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:36:19pm

Poor Baby...she just did not get what she wanted...and forgot the many things she did not get what she did not want...
What a great saying!

(a saying I picked up from reading LGF not too long ago)

54 littleoldlady  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:36:53pm

She's not nearly as much fun as gin-soaked raisins.

/come back Teresa; we miss you!

55 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:36:55pm

re: #8 Shug

Mean America
Build you up then tear you down
She's no longer proud

Running the mouth off
Provides me entertainment
Exposes the dumb

56 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:37:21pm

We're downright mean?

I'm sorry Michelle.

The planet has never seen a more generous nation in its existence. No country with the power and capability to lay the entire world low has not only chosen not to do so, but freely gives its largesse to nations large and small, even to the point of funding those who oppose us.

No, Michelle, we're not mean. We get ornery when someone calls us cheap and ignores the way we respond to natural disasters like the SE Asian tsunami not with words and claims that we'll do something, but with carrier task forces that land helicopters and aid within hours.

We get pissed when we see our money go into the ratholes of Gaza for use by terrorists instead of humanitarian aid as it was intended.

We get righteously upset when pious blowhards complain about the country and yet suckle at the very teat that has gotten them to the very pinnacle of political power in the country.

57 father_of_10  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:37:50pm

The black Theresa Heinz-Kerry?

58 Boats  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:37:52pm

Whoops. I replied to someone I never intended to reply to at all. The "editorial" your is directed at Michelle Obama, not occasional reader. Sorry.

59 littleoldlady  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:03pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

She keeps trying for her "gin-soaked raisins" moment, doesnt she?

I'm a slooow typer! ;-)

60 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:06pm

re: #54 littleoldlady

She's not nearly as much fun as gin-soaked raisins.

/come back Teresa; we miss you!

Good to see you in the daylight! Can't say I love the two couple of Republican Presidents, but their wives are great!

61 blue eyed music lover  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:07pm

America is so mean that it lets people into Princeton University and Harvard Law School who aren't qualified, just because of the color of their skin. Honestly, how does America live with itself?

62 Zoltan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:19pm

Hey, Michelle, life is a struggle. It's even harder for those who do not have affirmative action programs and set asides working for them.

63 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:30pm

re: #57 father_of_10

African American.

64 Jfundie  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:38:44pm
Barack Obama’s wife Michelle is quoted in New Yorker Magazine saying America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents, and we’re “just downright mean.”

So, does she support ending Affirmative Action?

65 rastajenk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:04pm

Somebody smarter than me can probably equate sloth and complacency with being anti-NAFTA. So who exactly is she talking to, or about? Odd way to campaign for people's hearts and minds.

66 amphibian  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:06pm

re: #3 Lively

Has someone been makin' fun of the ears? Stop it, now.

Hey, the ears are off limits!

67 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:08pm

We're a nation of puppy kickers.

68 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:40pm

re: #49 nyc redneck

how can some one, who has so much, be so thankless?
haters are ugly people.

Exactly. Name one other country were someone so unqualified as her husband could rise so far so fast?

69 bill-tb  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:41pm

I read her thesis, I think I know mean when I see it.

70 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:39:58pm

re: #64 Jfundie

Barack Obama’s wife Michelle is quoted in New Yorker Magazine saying America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents, and we’re “just downright mean.”

So, does she support ending Affirmative Action?

She seems to find something less than affirmative about it.

71 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:10pm
“It was a very sexist, segregated place,” Angela Acree, who was Obama’s roommate there for three years, recalled. She continued, “We couldn’t afford any furniture, so we just had pillows on the floor, and a stereo.” Their social lives revolved around gatherings at the Third World Center, rather than the university’s eating clubs.

I just have to laugh at the idea of Princeton undergrads hanging out at the "Third World Center". Nice.

Acree recalled, “The white people didn’t dance—I know that sounds like a cliché—and they also played a completely different kind of music, whereas we were playing R. & B., Luther Vandross, Run-D.M.C., at the T.W.C.”

Um, but what ever happened to "celebrate diversity"? Or does that only work one way?

72 Totally Berserk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:16pm

What an ignorant slut.

Don't like America? Nobody's making you stay.

She'll make a great First Lady...

73 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:17pm

re: #66 amphibian

re: #3 Lively

Has someone been makin' fun of the ears? Stop it, now.

Hey, the ears are off limits!

But lookit the fun they have had with Bush's comparatively small ears over the last 8 years.

74 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:31pm

American's have all too often dealt with this this type of woman (the world owes me, contempt for you and yours, you're so wrong - and I'm so right).

Keep goin lady. The exposition is grrreat. Get the monkey wrench into the campaign. You can destroy it.

75 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:36pm

21.3 billion in foreign aid for the year 2007
199 billion in charitable donations by individual Americans.

76 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:43pm

re: #58 Boats

Understood, but I might just stick with "Hyde Park Jekyll" anyway... that's a keeper!

77 littleoldlady  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:40:54pm

re: #60 coquimbojoe

Hiya joe! :-)

Which "two couple of Republican Presidents"?

78 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:00pm

End Racism and Sexism NOW:

Kill All White Males.

/

79 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:28pm

If she's talking about Clinton supporters - I agree with her.

80 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:40pm

What planet is this chick on?

81 bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:42pm

Hey Michelle

Did you ever stop to think I am a cynic because of people like you and your hubby?

You and all the other dhimmicrats make me cynical, I don’t have a say in the matter, it just happens when a democrat speaks.

82 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:46pm

cynics, sloths, and complacents

Their main supporters.

83 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:48pm

I think Michelle Obama needs a big group hug.

84 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #75 bulwrk

21.3 billion in foreign aid for the year 2007
199 billion in charitable donations by individual Americans.

Not to mention, as previously noted (see Geldof thread from a few days ago), the USA (via George W. Bush) more or less saving Africa. But lefties don't want to talk about that.

85 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:43:34pm

I think she just forgot to throw in that it is Bush's fault somewhere in that speech.

I am not being sarcastic.

86 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:43:45pm
Obama majored in sociology, investigating, in her senior thesis, “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community,”

And again, I've always had this funny idea that the purpose of higher education is to study something other than your own, personal experiences.

87 Cicero05  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:43:52pm

Has she checked the signs around her house lately? Maybe she doesn't really live in America.

88 greggriffith  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:44:17pm

America is on the verge of handing the Democratic nomination for President to a young black man with no experience and no discernable qualifications for the office. How does that remotely qualify as 'mean'?

I'm starting to hope Obama wins, just so we wont have to put with this whiny dilettante's bellyaching after he loses.

89 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:44:24pm

To each his reach
And if I don't cop, it ain't mine to have
But I'll be reachin' for ya
'Cause I love ya, CC.
Right on.


/Maggot Brain is a state of mind

90 Former SSG  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:44:24pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Well said!

I make more and have more than my parents or grandparents ever did. She was complaining about juggling her life, and if it's too much for her, I can think of one big burden she can lay down, right now!

91 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:44:54pm

re: #86 Occasional Reader

Obama majored in sociology, investigating, in her senior thesis, “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community,”

And again, I've always had this funny idea that the purpose of higher education is to study something other than your own, personal experiences.

Put yourself in some else's shoes? You jest.

/

92 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:44:57pm

re: #86 Occasional Reader

Obama majored in sociology, investigating, in her senior thesis, “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community,”

And again, I've always had this funny idea that the purpose of higher education is to study something other than your own, personal experiences.

But she majored in Sociology. An intense study into the obvious.

93 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:45:09pm

re: #12 antishock8

Keep that fat mouth yappin', Michelle. Every time you speak up Hillary picks up delegates. I'm going to love to see this crazy person during the Presidential elections if she doesn't manage to sabotage the Obama campaign...

Hard to believe that this stuff is scripted; then again, it's harder to believe that she hasn't been admonished not to ad lib.

Teresa was Kerry's meal ticket, so I understand why he wouldn't shut her up. What's the deal with Barack? Is he really that whipped?

94 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:45:15pm
95 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:45:28pm

re: #85 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I think she just forgot to throw in that it is Bush's fault somewhere in that speech.

I am not being sarcastic.


She was complacent and sloth

96 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:45:47pm

Who was on this woman's dissertation committee?

97 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:45:52pm

re: #71 Occasional Reader

The white people didn’t dance

WHOA. Now even I AM OFFENDED.

98 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:46:09pm
99 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:46:34pm

-- if she's talking about the fear-filled sheeple who were inspired by Rush Limbaugh to vote for Hillary out of fear for Obama - then Michelle is right. Cynics indeed. this nation wants a rapist and his socialist wife both who are paid off by the Chinese communists at the helm? All because some idiots believe the bullshit flowing from the lie filled hollywood approved Clinton machine?

America is filled with losers.
losers to the left - losers to the right.

Bill and Hillary will be the next president. again.
MARK MY WORDS.

thanks for voting.

100 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:46:44pm

re: #95 Shug

It was John Kerry's defense for the "if you don't do good in schools you will wind up stuck in Iraq". I just figure she will bust that one out if called on this loud enough.

101 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:46:58pm
102 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:47:16pm

re: #88 greggriffith

America is on the verge of handing the Democratic nomination for President to a young black man with no experience and no discernable qualifications for the office. How does that remotely qualify as 'mean'?

I'm starting to hope Obama wins, just so we wont have to put with this whiny dilettante's bellyaching after he loses.

She's starting to perk up.

103 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:47:17pm
104 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:47:26pm

re: #71 Occasional Reader

" ...Or does that only work one way?"

Duh. Oppressed classes can't be racist. Oppressor classes should be seen and not heard. Unless it's to grovel for forgiveness.

105 CIA Reject  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:47:30pm

re: #98 ploome hineni

re: #88 greggriffith

America is on the verge of handing the Democratic nomination for President to a young black man with no experience and no discernable qualifications for the office. How does that remotely qualify as 'mean'?

I'm starting to hope Obama wins, just so we wont have to put with this whiny dilettante's bellyaching after he loses.

and that SOB is only 45 yrs old

So even if he does lose, like the Terminator, he'll be back...

/Great!

106 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:47:31pm

re: #96 godfrey

Who cares? It just gave me a great idea for my graduate studies.

"White Jewish Suburban Moms With Right Wing Views And Their Attempts to Spread the Word Among Dhimmified Jews: An Academic Case Study"

107 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:17pm

Remember folks - lets not lose sight of the candidate here. It ain't Michelle Obama. Bob Dole tried to run against Hillary in '96 and failed. If he had run against Bill instead we wouldn't have had the laughs his post election ED commercials provided.

108 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:25pm

re: #80 godfrey

Planet Narcisism.

109 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:35pm

re: #106 WriterMom

No NEH for you!

110 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:44pm

re: #52 rawmuse
New avatar rocks. I was looking at one very similar to that a while ago.

111 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:59pm

re: #48 CIA Reject

ROFL.

Yes-keep talkin', girl and WEAR THE FUNNY HATS, too!

112 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:48:59pm

Michelle's Malaise is just the standard democrat Weltanschauung--America ain't worthy unless you elect us.

113 Former SSG  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:49:23pm

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

Just as I don't want "First Lady Bill," I don't want her. Cindy McCain has class ans style, and will represent the US quite nicely.

114 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:49:30pm

This woman can not become our First Lady, no way, no how.

115 nikis-knight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:49:30pm

Typical leftist thinking: non-socialist=mean.
Nevermind we give more to charity than other nations, or that our defense protects European socialism and keeps the worlds oceans free of piracy.

116 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:49:33pm

Michelle-don't let THE MAN shut you up!

Sing it, sistah!

117 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:02pm

re: #96 godfrey

Who was on this woman's dissertation committee?

-Michelle's Mom
-Michelle's BFF
-Michelle's other BFF

118 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:08pm

This chick is starting to make Cindy Sheehan look like Magaret Thatcher.

119 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:13pm

Sounds like she is hanging out with the DNC leadership too much.

120 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:28pm

re: #106 WriterMom

re: #96 godfrey

Who cares? It just gave me a great idea for my graduate studies.

"White Jewish Suburban Moms With Right Wing Views And Their Attempts to Spread the Word Among Dhimmified Jews: An Academic Case Study"

Well writermom, being jewish myself, I think you should name your thesis: How to lose all your friends in 10 easy lessions

121 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:51pm

re: #86 Occasional Reader

I thought the purpose of higher education was to go to parties, make fun of your TA's butt, and get some piece of crap paper so that you can get a job.

122 bunker buster  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:50:57pm
#4 karmic_inquisitor 3/05/08 12:27:26 pm reply quote report 0

I think it is mean raaacist to post anything about Michelle Obama saying that Americans are mean.

/overheard at you local Starbucks.

Fixed!

123 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:02pm

re: #106 WriterMom

re: #96 godfrey

Who cares? It just gave me a great idea for my graduate studies.


"White Jewish Suburban Moms With Right Wing Views And Their Attempts to Spread the Word Among Dhimmified Jews: An Academic Case Study"

Stretching.

124 korla pundit  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:13pm

The rear end justifies the mean.

125 abolitionist  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:18pm

Michelle, America is not average. Now go away kid, you bother me.

126 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:24pm

re: #117 Occasional Reader

You're so MEAN.

You American MEANIE.

127 Blue Eyed Music Lover  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:28pm

re: #71 Occasional Reader

“It was a very sexist, segregated place,” Angela Acree, who was Obama’s roommate there for three years, recalled. She continued, “We couldn’t afford any furniture, so we just had pillows on the floor, and a stereo.” Their social lives revolved around gatherings at the Third World Center, rather than the university’s eating clubs.

I just have to laugh at the idea of Princeton undergrads hanging out at the "Third World Center". Nice.

Acree recalled, “The white people didn’t dance—I know that sounds like a cliché—and they also played a completely different kind of music, whereas we were playing R. & B., Luther Vandross, Run-D.M.C., at the T.W.C.”

Um, but what ever happened to "celebrate diversity"? Or does that only work one way?

Kinda funny to realize that Princeton in the eighties was so segregated. Oh well, that's how universities are. Look at Harvard's gym.

128 boocat  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:28pm

I remember Jackie in the White House. What an elegant lady.
Imagining Michelle O. as First Lady makes me shudder. (Maybe First Broad ?)

129 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:29pm

re: #61 blue eyed music lover

America is so mean that it lets people into Princeton University and Harvard Law School who aren't qualified, just because of the color of their skin. Honestly, how does America live with itself?

If we keep it up, we wont.

130 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:51:45pm

Obama, Hillary, McCain...Oh my!
Obama, Hillary, McCain...Oh my!

I think I will need to take up drinking to get me through this one...

Later lizards.

131 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:52:05pm

This is what affirmative action does to people. Michelle seems quite intelligent, and maybe she got into Princeton and Harvard Law on her own merits. Because of AA, she (and we) can never be entirely sure. I think she's got a lot of nagging self-doubt about whether she's really good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, whether people like her. I can say a hearty "no" on item 3.

132 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:52:10pm

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

Remember folks - lets not lose sight of the candidate here. It ain't Michelle Obama. Bob Dole tried to run against Hillary in '96 and failed. If he had run against Bill instead we wouldn't have had the laughs his post election ED commercials provided.

but Teresa Heinz kerry alienated perhaps just enough people to make voting for Kerry less attractive

nobody wants a bitter America hater in the white house

133 korla pundit[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:52:22pm
134 Sloatsburgh  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:52:38pm

Product of people resisting government intervention:
'we’re a divided country'

Product of government intervention:
we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents

135 psaturn  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:52:53pm

Michelle Obama should keep talking...and loudly!

So we are a nation of meanies...

Okaaay!

I am going to be really mean and NOT vote for Obama and tell others why they should NOT vote for Obama! How about that!

I don't want a First Lady who is racist (as shown by her college paper) and who has never been proud of her country (until her husband had a chance to be a prez) and who thinks this country is just mean...

136 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:53:20pm

re: #116 WriterMom

Michelle-don't let THE MAN shut you up!

Sing it, sistah!

lol. What I wouldn't give to see her first press conference:

"Helen Thomas, you just hit my last nerve, girl!"

137 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:53:22pm
Acree recalled, “The white people didn’t dance—I know that sounds like a cliche;and they also played a completely different kind of music, whereas we were playing R. & B., Luther Vandross, Run-D.M.C., at the T.W.C.”

Well if you had played some good ol' hilbilly music perhaps whitey would've danced.

Something like this.

138 Racer X  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:53:52pm

Obama is unelectable - and his wife is not helping.

139 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:54:04pm

re: #71 Occasional Reader

Um, but what ever happened to "celebrate diversity"? Or does that only work one way?

Definitely. Otherwise, we're mean.

140 obscured by clouds  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:54:08pm
“The life that I’m talking about that most people are living has gotten progressively worse since I was a little girl. . . . So if you want to pretend like there was some point over the last couple of decades when your lives were easy, I want to meet you!”

Easy?! Life isn't meant to be easy, Michelle (like yours has been). And anyone who thinks that by electing Obama that their life will become "easier," they're just plain stupid (or, I should say, more stupid than they are for supporting Obama in the first place.)

She lives in the most giving country in the history of the planet and all she can do is rail about how life in the USA isn't 'easy' enough. Give me a break, lady.

141 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:54:08pm

re: #108 WriterMom

Hey WM! You aren't mad at me from yesterday, are you? I was just joking with you.

142 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:54:09pm

I'm not one to look behind I know that times must Change!
But over there in Barrytown they do things very strange
And though you're not my enemy
I like things like they used to be
And though you'd like some company
I'm standing by myself
Go play with someone else
I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown

Don't believe I'm taken in by stories I have heard
I just read the Daily News and swear by every word
And don't think that I'm out of line
For speaking out for what is mine
I'd like to see you do just fine
But look at what you wear
And the way you cut your hair

I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown

In the beginning we recall that the word was hurled
Barrytown people got to be from another world

Leave me or I'll be just like the others you will meet
They won't act as kindly if they see you on the street
And don't you scream or make a shout
It's nothing you can do about
It was there where you came out
It's a special lack of grace
I can see it in your face

I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown

143 doppelganglander  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:54:47pm

re: #112 alegrias

Big props for using (and spelling) Weltanschauung correctly.

144 antiislamist  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:55:18pm

She must be too sad for planning to rule over the mean peoples of America...

145 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:55:25pm

This is really repulsive:

After the speech, Obama was whisked into the church basement. A clutch of people gathered nearby, hoping to catch a glimpse of her. But when she emerged into the chilly morning air, she didn’t linger long with her well-wishers.

Someone might ask a question.

She can seem squeamish about politicking, put off by the awkward stagecraft of glad-handing and the small-group discussions—Michelle, five or six women, and, as she put it one day in Wisconsin, “five thousand cameras”—that her staff bills as “intimate conversations.”

To a socialist, hell is other people. Statistics and platitudes? Just dandy.

But she thrives in large venues.

Narcissist.

Cindy Moelis said, “The first time she got feedback on being such a wonderful speaker, I think when people said, ‘Wow, you’re really good at that,’ she goes, ‘Why’s everybody surprised?’ ”

That's the best part. She can't even accept a compliment without jabbing the giver in the eye.

A thoroughly unpleasant woman. Oh, and yes, I'm questioning her patriotism.

146 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:55:41pm

So the democratic choices are

1. Bitchy first lady
2. Bitchy president

Its nice to know the democrats are so diverse.

147 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:55:44pm

michelle is mean.
that's her problem.
projection?!

148 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:03pm

re: #82 Shug

I don't feel like a sloth. I hardly ever hang upside-down from branches.

149 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:04pm

re: #23 Iron Fist

It sucks to only make half a million dollars a year, people. Come on! Don't you feel for the plight of this woman?

And let's not forget the mansion with the neighboring lot paid for by kind-spirited saddam money. Poor Michelle

150 bkt23  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:14pm

"America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents"

Methinks Michelle needs to expand her circle of friends and acquaintances.

151 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:15pm

re: #137 Ringo the Gringo

Acree recalled, “The white people didn’t dance—I know that sounds like a cliche;and they also played a completely different kind of music, whereas we were playing R. & B., Luther Vandross, Run-D.M.C., at the T.W.C.”

Well if you had played some good ol' hilbilly music perhaps whitey would've danced.

Something like this.

Shit! My white feet started shaking uncontrollably and I just knocked over my moonshine.

152 father_of_10  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:21pm

re: #93 David Simon

re: #12 antishock8

Keep that fat mouth yappin', Michelle. Every time you speak up Hillary picks up delegates. I'm going to love to see this crazy person during the Presidential elections if she doesn't manage to sabotage the Obama campaign...

Hard to believe that this stuff is scripted; then again, it's harder to believe that she hasn't been admonished not to ad lib.

Teresa was Kerry's meal ticket, so I understand why he wouldn't shut her up. What's the deal with Barack? Is he really that whipped?

-yes.
obviously.
he is a liberal, ya know.

153 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:56:44pm

Dittsie Bitch. lets talk about what she does for a living, for the University of Chicago Medical Center.
Why she makes copious amounts of money for Community Outreach.
What does that involve you ask? Well, according to the Chicago Tibune she heads up an effort to steer indigent African Americans away from that facility to Cook County Hospital.
See Medicaid reimursement is not good.
I would say that because she is so opinionated, it would be fair if a newsie asked her about her job.

154 Former SSG  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:57:15pm

re: #134 Sloatsburgh

Well, please keep me divided from those who think this country is mean! Or evil, or bad, or always wrong.

I think it's a country full of wonderful, cool, courageous, smart people.
If Keeble never complained, after all he did, then went through, a woman with all her advantages should just STFU and sit down!

Medal of Honor for Keeble

155 padre  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:57:39pm

Let them eat cake

156 BulgarWheat  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:57:55pm

re: #135 psaturn

Michelle went off to an Ivy league school. Her husband went off to an Ivy league school. I went off and spent 8 years in the Army.

Michelle and her husband have law degrees. I had a CIB.

I've fought and scraped for 30 years to get where I am, and I'm grateful.

This ingrate is bitching and moaning about this country?

Give me a fucking break!

I'd like to introduce her and her minions to the school of hard knocks. I'd at least like for her to understand what she's bitching about is absolute nonsense.

157 bosforus  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:57:59pm

So why doesn't she just leave and find a more suitable country for her?

158 korla pundit[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:58:12pm
159 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:58:19pm

re: #132 Shug

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

Remember folks - lets not lose sight of the candidate here. It ain't Michelle Obama. Bob Dole tried to run against Hillary in '96 and failed. If he had run against Bill instead we wouldn't have had the laughs his post election ED commercials provided.

but Teresa Heinz kerry alienated perhaps just enough people to make voting for Kerry less attractive

nobody wants a bitter America hater in the white house

ya didn't think we'd notice the lower case K did ya?

That's my point. Barack is not the bitter one here, and never will be throughout the upcoming campaign. Only his surrogates. Don't attack the surrogate as it won't stick to the candidate.

160 looking closely  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:58:41pm

I only see someone unqualified to hold the position of first lady.

Michelle, here's a tip:

You smile a lot, have your picture taken with people, and TRY TO SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY, IS THAT SO @#$$ING HARD?

/sorry, me being "mean".

161 Former SSG  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:59:13pm

re: #156 BulgarWheat

Thank you.

162 red satellite  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 12:59:14pm

“We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime.

'Jammed Up'? Is that hip-hop for 'too many DVD players'?

163 theangryamerican2008  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:00:18pm

The Obamanatrix wants to tear you down and rebuild you.

164 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:00:42pm

re: #134 Sloatsburgh

Product of people resisting government intervention:
'we’re a divided country'

Product of government intervention:
we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents

* * *
Republic of Fear = Iraq!

Get a clue. We don't use shredders, and mean Uday & Qusay don't live in our White House.

165 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:00:49pm

re: #77 littleoldlady

41, 43

166 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:01:32pm

She's a quick learner, with a good teacher

nuff said

167 Maine's Michael  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:01:39pm

Wow. She's going to sink his campaign, all by her lonesome.

168 alibaba  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:01:42pm

Michelle, stay as sweet as you are!re: #12 antishock8

169 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:01:52pm

A TEST FOR OLD KIDS

This is a test for us 'old kids'! The answers are printed below, but don't cheat.

01. After the Lone Ranger saved the day and rode off into the sunset, the grateful citizens would ask, Who was that masked man? Invariably, someone would answer, I don't know, but he left this behind. What did he leave behind?___.

02. When the Beatles first came to the U.S. In early 1964, we all watched them on The ___ Show.

03. 'Get your kicks, ___.'

04. 'The story you are about to see is true. The names h ave been changed to ___.'

05. 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, ___.'

06. After the Twist, The Mashed Potato, and the Watusi, we 'danced' under a stick that was lowered as low as we could go in a dance called the '___. '

07. 'N_E_S_T_L_E_S', Nestle's makes the very best . . . ___.'

08. Satchmo was America 's 'Ambassador of Goodwill.' Our parents shared this great jazz trumpet player with us. His name was ___.
09. What takes a licking and keeps on ticking? ___.

10. Red Skelton 's hobo character was named ___ and Red always ended his television show by saying, 'Good Night, and '___ ___'.

11. Some Americans who protested the
Vietnam War did so by burning their ___.

12. The cute little car with the engine in the back and the trunk in the front was called the VW. What other names did it go by? ___ &___ .

13. In 1971, singer Don MacLean sang a song about, 'the day the music died. 'This was a tribute to ___.

14. We can remember the first satellite placed into orbit. The Russians did it.
It was called ___.

15. One of the big fads of the late 50's and 60's was a large plastic ring that we twirled around our waist. It was called the ___ ___.

ANSWERS: < /FONT>

01. The Lone Ranger left behind a silver bullet.
02. The Ed Sullivan Show
03. On Route 66
04. To protect the innocent.
05. The Lion Sleeps Tonight
06. The limbo
07. Chocolate
08. Louis Armstrong
09. The Timex watch
10. Freddy, The Freeloader and 'Good Night and God Bless.'
11. Draft cards
12. Beetle or Bug
13. Buddy Holly
14. Sputnik
15. Hoola-hoop

170 Tumulus11  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:01:57pm

. Obama/Obama '08

171 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:02:04pm

That's what happens when you associate with the Hoi Poloi...

172 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:02:27pm

re: #159 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #132 Shug

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

Remember folks - lets not lose sight of the candidate here. It ain't Michelle Obama. Bob Dole tried to run against Hillary in '96 and failed. If he had run against Bill instead we wouldn't have had the laughs his post election ED commercials provided.

but Teresa Heinz kerry alienated perhaps just enough people to make voting for Kerry less attractive

nobody wants a bitter America hater in the white house

ya didn't think we'd notice the lower case K did ya?

That's my point. Barack is not the bitter one here, and never will be throughout the upcoming campaign. Only his surrogates. Don't attack the surrogate as it won't stick to the candidate.

Yes and no. This is his wife and she will always have his ear. If and when she says some of the outrages things she says, we all must assume he either tacitly endorses said views or he must repudiate them.

173 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:02:34pm

re: #160 looking closely

I only see someone unqualified to hold the position of first lady.

Michelle, here's a tip:

You smile a lot, have your picture taken with people, and TRY TO SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY, IS THAT SO @#$$ING HARD?

/sorry, me being "mean".

maybe we shouldn't be giving her any good advice. we want her to keep bitching.
well, never mind, she's so full of rage she probably couldn't stop if she wanted to.

174 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:03:33pm

A man went to the doctor's office to get a double dose of viagra.

The doctor told him that he couldn't allow him a double dose.

"Why not?" asked the man.

"Because it's not safe," replied the doctor.

"But I need it really bad," said the man.

"Well, why do you need it so badly?" asked the doctor!

The man said,"My girlfriend is coming into town on Friday; my ex-wife will
be here on Saturday; and my wife is coming home on Sunday. Can't you see? I must have a double dose!"

The doctor finally relented saying, "Okay, I'l l give it to you, but you have
to come in on Monday morning so that I can check you to see if there are any side effects."

On Monday, the man dragged himself in; his arm in a sling.

The doctor asked, "What happened to you?"

The man said, "No one showed up..."

175 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:03:44pm
176 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:03:52pm

Well, Barry/Barack is the positive guy. But to be a vacuous positive guy, you need a specific negative person. That's Michelle. Besides, Michelle's a highly credentialed black woman. Who in the press is going to challenge her? Good for this New Yorker writer for implying the interesting thing about her.

177 alibaba  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:04:05pm

re: #96 godfrey

Who was on this woman's dissertation committee?


Probably Noam Chomsky judging by the garbage that comes our of her mouth!

178 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:04:14pm

Sloth is defined as spiritual and/or actual apathy or laziness, putting off what God asks you to do, or not doing it or anything at all.


Well you have to admit that describes her party pretty accurately.

179 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:04:56pm

Anyone here have any doubts about who wears the pants at the Obama manse?

Anyone here care to speculate on her response when asked nicely to hush by her mellifluous hubby or his loyal advisers?

180 pegcity  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:21pm

Vote for Obama or she will no longer be proud of America, cause its all about her.

181 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:30pm

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

182 vagabond trader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:39pm

Oh my, I have to stop reading this thread. So may upclicks so little time. Great job lizards!

183 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:43pm

re: #162 red satellite

No, "jammed up" means three cars and only two parking spots.

184 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:45pm

There was a preacher whose wife was expecting a baby so he went
before
the Congregation and asked for a raise. After much discussion, they
passed a rule that whenever the preacher's family expanded, so would
his
paycheck. After 6 children, this started to get expensive and the
Congregation decided to hold another meeting to discuss the
preacher's
salary. There was much yelling and bickering about how much the
clergyman's additional children were costing the church. Finally,
the
Preacher got up and spoke to the crowd, 'Children are a
gift from God,' he said. Silence fell on the congregation. In the
back
pew, a little old lady stood up and in her frail voice said, 'Rain
is
also a gift from God, but when we get too much of it, we wear
rubbers.

185 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:58pm

re: #141 MrMom

Get outa here. You thought I was mad. LOL. Silly.

186 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:05:59pm

I think Bambi's "baby girl" is just spoiled. Take away her goodies for a few weeks and see if that changes her definition of "mean!"

187 BH  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:06:11pm

She's like Teresa Heinz-Kerry without the gin. This is shaping up to be a wonderfully silly election year!

188 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:06:12pm

re: #179 The Shadow Do

Anyone here have any doubts about who wears the pants at the Obama manse?

Anyone here care to speculate on her response when asked nicely to hush by her mellifluous hubby or his loyal advisers?

Well maybe, just maybe, he looks darker in some pictures because he is wearing more makeup to hide a black eye?

189 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:06:43pm

Speak for yourself, Beotch! You seem so disgusted with everything American. You really want to lead from a position of hate?

Cripes, this woman is more of a liability to Obama than Mrs. Kerry was to the other Demo Pres wannabe.

190 pegcity  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:07:19pm

re: #42 baconeatingkaffir

Since america is so mean, maybe obama-mama might consider moving to a "nicer" place in the world with "more culture" like sudan, afghanistan, iran, indonesia, or any other 3rd world craphole.

Im sure he has lots of nice relatives in those countries he could go live with.

191 1SG(ret)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:07:22pm

re: #162 red satellite

“We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime.

'Jammed Up'? Is that hip-hop for 'too many DVD players'?

Don't they make over the counter meds for that?

192 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:07:28pm

re: #167 Maine's Michael

Inshallah, brother.

193 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:07:54pm
Just after Barack was elected to the United States Senate, Michelle received a large pay increase—from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005. “Mrs. Obama is extremely overpaid,” one citizen wrote in a letter to the editor of the Tribune, after the paper published a story questioning the timing of the award. “Now, what is the real reason behind such an inflated salary?” Her bosses at the University of Chicago Hospitals vigorously defended the raise, pointing out that it put her salary on a par with that of other vice-presidents at the hospital. (As it happens, Obama has spent most of her life working within the two institutions for which she most frequently claims a populist disdain: government and the health-care system.)

But don't you dare question her, uh, anything.

194 alibaba  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:08:12pm

re: #157 bosforus
They don't want her in Iran!

195 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:08:15pm

This kind of rhetoric just plays off many voters' low self-esteem.

196 looking closely  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:08:39pm

re: #173 nyc redneck

re: #160 looking closely

I only see someone unqualified to hold the position of first lady.

Michelle, here's a tip:

You smile a lot, have your picture taken with people, and TRY TO SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY, IS THAT SO @#$$ING HARD?

/sorry, me being "mean".

maybe we shouldn't be giving her any good advice. we want her to keep bitching.
well, never mind, she's so full of rage she probably couldn't stop if she wanted to.


Clearly these aren't scripted remarks. Its the real "her" coming out.

She's not a child, she's not stupid, and she's also not new to being the wife of a politician. Its kind of odd that she hasn't learned already, but I would expect a major smackdown by her handlers promptly.

Assuming Obama survives the primary process (which appears likely), I suspect Michelle will be shunted away to a corner somewhere to wave and smile for the remainder of the campaign.

197 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:08:44pm

re: #162 red satellite

That really annoys me. I am certain she never missed a meal. I missed a lot of them. I've worked for every bloody thing I've got, and no one did me any favors, certainly not the government.

She needs to shut up.

198 Sunlight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:08:47pm

Michelle needs to get some more international travel under her belt or better yet try living in other countries. She sounds downright ignorant. People born in the U.S. have won a huge lottery of life and she needs to count her lucky stars or try to find her nirvana place. I personally think she's the one who sounds mean and very spoiled. And ungrateful to whatever made her so lucky. I'm grateful every day. Some that I know of that are really mean:

Germany: Get run over by people trying to get on a bus. Or... the German govt send two vans of riot police to an American high school to arrest a scrawny shoplifting kid, but can't seem to get together a similar force to provide security for olympic athletes in Munich.

Morocco: sleep with a gun under your pillow so you don't get your throat slit.

Mexico: wear a scarf so men on the street don't pull out chunks of your hair while stalking you.

199 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:04pm

re: #185 WriterMom

re: #141 MrMom

Get outa here. You thought I was mad. LOL. Silly.

I took a poke then didn't hear from ya again...
(*bitch*)

200 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:05pm

re: #193 Occasional Reader

Large pay increase? Slightly.

201 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:12pm

And the article brings up Tony Rezko.

I'm stunned.

Bravo, New Yorker.

202 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:20pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.

203 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:24pm

re: #187 BH

She's like Teresa Heinz-Kerry without the gin. This is shaping up to be a wonderfully silly election year!

Are you sure she's not into the gin?

204 Olderthandirt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:26pm

Just realized what the appropriate Obama salute should be to go along with the video "Obama Obama Obama," which some mean spirited folks have said is creepy. Anyway, the salute should be to raise both arms up high while shouting: "hallelujah" as loudly as one can! All together now, in one loud voice: "Hallelujah".

Of course, the short version is just to raise up one arm, either arm will do, and shout "Hail Obama!"

Doing this while watching the Obama Obama video is best because then the whole effect is realized:
[Link: www.dipdive.com...]

The other option is to puke after watching that video and then vote against that false messiah!

205 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:30pm

#187 She's like Teresa Heinz-Kerry without the gin.

An image that will endure.

206 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:09:58pm

re: #199 MrMom

Ass!

JK

JUST KIDDING

207 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:10:30pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

ok, this is absurd. no one is going to believe that these people can't afford grapes and bananas. that's what she is implying. that they are living in poverty.

208 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:10:31pm

re: #188 Nevergiveup

re: #179 The Shadow Do

Anyone here have any doubts about who wears the pants at the Obama manse?

Anyone here care to speculate on her response when asked nicely to hush by her mellifluous hubby or his loyal advisers?

Well maybe, just maybe, he looks darker in some pictures because he is wearing more makeup to hide a black eye?

Ba-Da-Boom!
/straightman

209 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:10:34pm

Whiney-ass bitch.

210 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:10:44pm

re: #193 Occasional Reader

Just after Barack was elected to the United States Senate, Michelle received a large pay increase—from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005. “Mrs. Obama is extremely overpaid,” one citizen wrote in a letter to the editor of the Tribune, after the paper published a story questioning the timing of the award. “Now, what is the real reason behind such an inflated salary?” Her bosses at the University of Chicago Hospitals vigorously defended the raise, pointing out that it put her salary on a par with that of other vice-presidents at the hospital. (As it happens, Obama has spent most of her life working within the two institutions for which she most frequently claims a populist disdain: government and the health-care system.)

But don't you dare question her, uh, anything.

I wonder how the RNs and unlicensed aidea are paid at the facility that can increase Michelle's salary like that. And since she's not there at all now, what is she making?

211 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:10:57pm

Man just look at us being so mean and twisting her words to present her in the worst light.

What she was really trying to say was...uh...well give me a minute.. ok and hour...I'll get back to you on the good things she was really trying to say later...

212 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:11:15pm

AND the article brings up Obama's wacked-out racialist church!

213 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:11:20pm

re: #113 Former SSG

Cindy McCain has class ans style, and will represent the US quite nicely.

Didn't she have an affair with a married man, resulting in the breakup of his marriage? I thought that kind of thing was frowned upon. I suppose you could claim that it was entirely his fault, but then should he be a candidate for president?

214 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:11:54pm

re: #184 JimmyTheClaw

I did not know that.

215 jemima  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:09pm

Is there anything--at all--likable about her?

She seems to be everything she accuses us of being.

216 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:11pm

Liberals simply do not like people. They just don't.

You know how Obama is always chanting "Change'? It's because he wants to change YOU. He doesn't like you the way you are, and apparently Ms. Obama is like-minded.

The rabble appall her.

217 Frank_Mtl  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:24pm

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

218 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:45pm
219 Catttt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:46pm

Likeable cuss, Mrs. Obama. Real Carnegie how to win friends and influence people graduate material. /

220 cybermonk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:54pm

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Venezuela?

221 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:12:55pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Fruit and veg are cheap. That woman doesn't know what she's talking about.

222 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:20pm

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

She looks like quite the tough in that pic.

223 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:39pm
The other Chicago connection that dogs the Obamas is Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., their pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ. Wright, who drives a Porsche and references Bernie Mac and Terry McMillan in his unorthodox sermons (“Take what God gave you and say, ‘In your face, mediocrity, I’m a bad mamma jamma!’ ”), officiated at Michelle and Barack’s wedding and baptized their two daughters. Barack took the title “The Audacity of Hope” from a sermon that Wright preached. In 2006, the Obamas gave $22,500 to the church.

Wright espouses a theology that seeks to reconcile African-American Christianity with, as he has written, “the raw data of our racist existence in this strange land.” The historical accuracy of that claim is incontestable. But his message is more confrontational than may be palatable to some white voters. In his book “Africans Who Shaped Our Faith”—an extended refutation of the Western Christianity that gave rise to “the European Jesus . . . the blesser of the slave trade, the defender of racism and apartheid”—he says, “In this country, racism is as natural as motherhood, apple pie, and the fourth of July. Many black people have been deluded into thinking that our BMWs, Lexuses, Porsches, Benzes, titles, heavily mortgaged condos and living environments can influence people who are fundamentally immoral.” [Gosh, does this sound familiar? -Ed.]

In portraying America as “a Eurocentric wasteland of lily-white lies and outright distortions,” Wright promulgates a theory of congenital separatism that is deeply at odds with Obama’s professed belief in the possibilities of unity and change. Last year, Trumpet Newsmagazine, which was launched by Trinity United and is run by Wright’s daughter, gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to Louis Farrakhan, leading to accusations that Wright was anti-Semitic.

224 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:43pm

re: #202 bulwrk

re: #181 Occasional Reader


Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.

* * *
Remember reading how East Germany and other communist worker paradises didn't have bananas? Soviets stood in lines for bread that often ran out? Their communist government stores carried crummy merchandise and little that people really wanted?

Cubans today cannot shop except in government stores, using one currency that is nearly worthless, to buy rationed stuff.

Venezuelans in communist/socialist Chavez country, can't get any milk!

Is THIS what you aspire to make America?

225 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:43pm

re: #154 Former SSG

re: #134 Sloatsburgh

Well, please keep me divided from those who think this country is mean! Or evil, or bad, or always wrong.

I think it's a country full of wonderful, cool, courageous, smart people.
If Keeble never complained, after all he did, then went through, a woman with all her advantages should just STFU and sit down!

Medal of Honor for Keeble

A true hero.
'Woodrow Keeble received four purple hearts during World War II.'
And he really earned them, unlike a certain senator we know.

226 Dave the.....  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:43pm

Oh oh. I think somebody needs some diversity training.

227 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:13:45pm

re: #202 bulwrk

re: #181 Occasional Reader


Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.

Strawberries year round. Bad country!

228 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:03pm
(Michelle) Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

Jeez, and this bitch wants to be the First Lady? She's yet more proof that the Conservatives accentuate the positive, and the Party of Jackasses can only come up with negative shit about everything. And she bad-mouths the very nation that she was born in, got her education in, allows her the opportunity to be a lawyer and make obscene money doing it in, and yet her vile, evil brain conjures up0 stupid shit like what is in that article. Amazing. Simply amazing.

Hey, Michelle...fuck off! How's THAT for "mean", hmmm?

229 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:09pm
230 Tumulus11  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:12pm
'That year [2005], as the Tribune reported, the Obamas moved to a $1.65-million Georgian Revival mansion in Hyde Park, which features a thousand-bottle wine cellar and bookcases made of Honduran mahogany. On the day they bought the house, Rita Rezko, Tony’s wife, purchased the adjacent lot, which was wooded and empty, for $625,000.'
. 'Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime.'
// Michelle Obama
231 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:14pm

re: #206 WriterMom

re: #199 MrMom

Ass!

JK

JUST KIDDING


Heh. I grew up with 8 siblings. Needed 2 things. A boarding house reach and to be able to take the ribbing!

232 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:15pm

I am SO tired of this running down of my country, that I could spit.

And after all we have done for others. And this is a postcard published in FRANCE.

233 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:25pm

re: #172 Nevergiveup

re: #159 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #132 Shug

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

Remember folks - lets not lose sight of the candidate here. It ain't Michelle Obama. Bob Dole tried to run against Hillary in '96 and failed. If he had run against Bill instead we wouldn't have had the laughs his post election ED commercials provided.

but Teresa Heinz kerry alienated perhaps just enough people to make voting for Kerry less attractive

nobody wants a bitter America hater in the white house

ya didn't think we'd notice the lower case K did ya?

That's my point. Barack is not the bitter one here, and never will be throughout the upcoming campaign. Only his surrogates. Don't attack the surrogate as it won't stick to the candidate.

Yes and no. This is his wife and she will always have his ear. If and when she says some of the outrages things she says, we all must assume he either tacitly endorses said views or he must repudiate them.

Nope. He doesn't need repudiate. He's got the media and will keep it.
Soon he'll have the Soros Move-On dollars at work. He's gonna be tough to beat.
Even sooner he'll have Hillary as his VP running mate. It's gonna be a tough ticket.

234 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:31pm

Avast! She makes Hillary seem likeable.

235 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:14:44pm

re: #220 cybermonk

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Venezuela?

Ok. I'll give you that one!

236 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:15pm

She wasn't talking about Farakan of course.

237 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:36pm

Does that whiney-ass bitch still wear Maria Pinto?

238 calcajun  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:42pm

Another self-loathing socialist. She can't get everyone to agree with the righteousness of her cause (and that it the only way socialism work!) so everyone must be mean spirited and petty since they won't unite and work for (her vision) of the betterment of men.

Of course, she is right, but not about Americans. She has perfectly described the Hobbesian view of humanity in general; nasty, brutish, etc., In other words, we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Under the socialist view, man does not need God to make himself better - he can do it on his own. As a result, we have gulags, killing fields and lots of cultural revolutions.

What's scary is that they really want to make people better - according to their own vision. "Change We Can Believe In" (shouldn't it be "Change in Which We Can Believe"?) Yes, kiddies--it CAN happen here.

239 Alouette  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:44pm

Michelle Obama reminds me of "Sherry Palmer" the President's wife in the early seasons of "24." That woman was was a pure evil hoodoo mama.

240 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:48pm

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

What's she doin'...talking out of the side of her mouth?

241 ergo sum  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:56pm

re: #74 unrealizedviewpoint

American's have all too often dealt with this this type of woman (the world owes me, contempt for you and yours, you're so wrong - and I'm so right).

Keep goin lady. The exposition is grrreat. Get the monkey wrench into the campaign. You can destroy it.

Yeah but Obamarosa gets to play the race card to excuse her contempable behavior and we have to bend over and take it. She sucks! And you said Monkey (wrench) which is extremely racist and therefore nothing you say is of any value./sarc

242 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:15:58pm

re: #224 alegrias

Or, consider the case of Zimbabwe. The former breadbasket of Africa is now a basket case with an inflation rate of 100,500%!

243 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:02pm

re: #230 Tumulus11

'That year [2005], as the Tribune reported, the Obamas moved to a $1.65-million Georgian Revival mansion in Hyde Park, which features a thousand-bottle wine cellar and bookcases made of Honduran mahogany. On the day they bought the house, Rita Rezko, Tony’s wife, purchased the adjacent lot, which was wooded and empty, for $625,000.'

. 'Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime.'
// Michelle Obama

But the Rezkos were quite broke. Let's look at the Iraqi and Jabar Muhammed connection

244 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:10pm

re: #234 Peacekeeper

Not YOU!

245 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:10pm

re: #207 nyc redneck

re: #181 Occasional Reader


Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

ok, this is absurd. no one is going to believe that these people can't afford grapes and bananas. that's what she is implying. that they are living in poverty.

* * *
Where I live, Giant Grocery and Safeway deliver food -- you can order fruit online.

Perhaps she means the rigours of living in luxury hotels with room service & lots of aides while campaigning is hard on families with young children.

246 Dave the.....  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:32pm
she is surrounded by, and appealing to the hate America first crowd

I occasionally have to spend time with liberal Democrats. It's amazing how negative they are about everything. And the softer the life they have, the more they complain about how horrible America is.

247 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:39pm

Why would anyone who despises Americans so much want to be their First Lady?

248 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:16:56pm

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?

A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

249 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:03pm

re: #239 Alouette

pure evil hoodoo mama

HAHAHHA

250 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:03pm

I normally don't toss around the word "bitch" when refering to women but, I've decided to make an exception. Michelle Obama is a whiney-ass bitch. I might shorten it to "WAB."

251 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:12pm

re: #246 Dave the...

The apparently read no history.

252 calcajun  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:43pm

re: #242 lawhawk

Obama reminds me too much of a slick version of Mugabe. They have the same grasp of economics.

253 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:45pm

How bout someone posting a chart of American foreign aid.

How bout aid to Africa?

How bout charity? From what I understand, Amerimeanies give more than anyone on earth.

Tsunami? Can we get the money back now?

Katrina? Insane amount of charity, at until Kanye spoke.

Let's see...Hamas/Fatah doesn't think we're mean.

Who else, who else?

254 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:46pm

re: #239 Alouette

Michelle Obama reminds me of "Sherry Palmer" the President's wife in the early seasons of "24."

YES ! !

255 blackpajamas  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:17:53pm

OT

To the crew East of the Rockies,

Then Pallas Minerva put valour into the heart of Diomed, son of Tydeus, that he might excel all the other Argives, and cover himself with glory. She made a stream of fire flare from his shield and helmet like the star that shines most brilliantly in summer after its bath in the waters of Oceanus--even such a fire did she kindle upon his head and shoulders as she bade him speed into the thickest hurly-burly of the fight.

/channel off.

256 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:03pm

re: #248 BigDana

re: #217 Frank_Mtl


Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?

A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

Gorgeous.

257 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:17pm

re: #213 Bob Munck

re: #113 Former SSG


Cindy McCain has class ans style, and will represent the US quite nicely.

Didn't she have an affair with a married man, resulting in the breakup of his marriage? I thought that kind of thing was frowned upon. I suppose you could claim that it was entirely his fault, but then should he be a candidate for president?

* * *
Maybe, but does the Constitution say that?

258 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:17pm

re: #244 WriterMom

re: #234 Peacekeeper

Not YOU!

Shalom baby!

259 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:20pm

re: #196 looking closely

She's not a child, she's not stupid, and she's also not new to being the wife of a politician. Its kind of odd that she hasn't learned already, but I would expect a major smackdown by her handlers promptly.

Assuming Obama survives the primary process (which appears likely), I suspect Michelle will be shunted away to a corner somewhere to wave and smile for the remainder of the campaign.

No way in hell this woman is going to told to shut up. Trust me on this. I can't wait to see her really riled up, it going to be great!

260 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:29pm

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

michelle o is no jackie o.

261 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:40pm

I really believe that The Obamas are both bitter people and lack the appropriate respect and affecrtion for their country & fellow Americans.
Her problem is that she lets her mask slip easily.
case in point , they both join an anti American racist church.
And he converted from , oh well.
He either needs to grow a pair or he is on board , but is less fortright.

262 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:41pm

re: #251 Ojoe

"They" PIMF

263 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:42pm

It's safe to say She's Got Issues.

264 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:18:54pm

re: #234 Peacekeeper

Avast! She makes Hillary seem likeable.

That's just effen scary!

265 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:19:08pm

re: #238 calcajun

She can't get everyone to agree with the righteousness of her cause (and that it the only way socialism work!) so everyone must be mean spirited and petty since they won't unite and work for (her vision) of the betterment of men.

Bingo

266 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:19:24pm

re: #261 opnion

He won't wear a flag pin.

267 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:19:50pm
The Obamas’ partnership has been a source of great pride among African-American women. In an essay on TheRoot.com, Kim McLarin writes that Obama reminds her of Ntozake Shange’s play “For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf”: “ordinary / brown braided woman / with big legs and full lips / reglar.” For her, the Obamas’ relationship is a public validation of the worthiness of dark-skinned women. “He chose one of us, and I am thrilled,” McLarin writes.

Now how creepy is THAT?

Imagine a McCain supporter gushing (in print, in a major magazine) about how thrilling it is that he choose a blonde-haired, fair-skinned wife.

268 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:15pm

re: #230 Tumulus11

What resounding irony!

269 red satellite  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:25pm

I wonder how long the liberal-elite over at the NYT, WaPo...will put up with slang, ebonics, and colloquial diarrhea...

270 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:30pm

Holy Limousine Liberal Batman!

271 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:49pm

re: #248 BigDana

re: #217 Frank_Mtl


Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?

A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

She looks better in this one:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.

272 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:50pm
273 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:51pm

re: #191 1SG(ret)

Prunes can help with that "jammed up" feeling.
And they are cheap and do not need any preparation -- they come pitted. Although I undestand prune depitters can be a pretty mean bunch.

274 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:20:52pm

Michelle "I hate you white folk" Obama. Heard that one yesterday. Seems to fit her, IMO.

Judging from her uber-ignorant rants and comments that pour from her disgusting mouth almost by the minute, is THIS what we want representing the interests of America? Is this who we want as our face to the world? She's nastier than her hubby!

The sad part, is that my previous paragraph fits Ms Obama and Senator HDR Clinton.

275 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:21:22pm

This is the way Socialism works; More for me, less for thee.

BTW, this is an hysterical site.

276 friarstale  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:21:26pm

Michelle not proud again
(satire)

277 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:21:39pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

I'm sure the average voter can relate to her fruit stand dilemma.

278 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:21:46pm

re: #242 lawhawk

re: #224 alegrias

Or, consider the case of Zimbabwe. The former breadbasket of Africa is now a basket case with an inflation rate of 100,500%!

* * *
That is so obscene--yesterday's BBC website noted Mugabe came to power in 1980, so it's been 28 years of starving his people and running the country into the ground, yet no one will topple this monster.

Actually, there is a brave man trying to run against Mugabe, may God help him save the lives of millions of Zimbabweans soon.
(meanwhile the UN whine about its food programme being short on dough, while Mugabe goes on about his genocidal work)

Where's the outrage, liberals?

279 Racer X  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:21:46pm

re: #250 MandyManners

Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce to you - B-HO and his WAB!

280 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:22:07pm
re: #239 Alouette

Michelle Obama reminds me of "Sherry Palmer" the President's wife in the early seasons of "24."

YES ! !

THAT was my thought earlier, too! The actress must've used Ms Obama as her model for the role!

281 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:22:27pm

Hugo's just itching to join the Axis of Evil:

The United States has found active financial and political links between the Venezuelan government and the following designated global terrorist organisations, all of which operate within Venezuelan territory, with the explicit permission and support of the Chavez government:

Hizballah
Hamas
Al-Qaeda
FARC
ELN
ETA
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps

Moreover, the illegal fund-raising activities these groups engage in, whether they be narcotics trafficking, arms smuggling, extortion, human smuggling, or other types of crime, are allowed to flourish, even though some of the acts take place in, or through, Venezuelan territory. Frankly, we welcome any action by the United States against these terrorist groups, which have been operating freely in Venezuela for years. the FARC, for example, has well-established base-camps on the Colombian border, so that its leadership can evade the Colombian Ejercito, that country's powerful army.

Terrorists, drugs & weapons. The ties that bind thugs.

282 gymnast  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:22:30pm

Hmmm. The half empty glass of the Obama family has been heard from.

283 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:22:51pm

re: #267 Occasional Reader

Now how creepy is THAT?

On the (Micheal) Jackson scale of creepiness, where 1970 is least creepy and 2008 is run for your life, I'd say that's about 1995.

284 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:22:54pm

What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

285 Alouette  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:23:01pm

re: #280 6pat6

re: #239 Alouette Michelle Obama reminds me of "Sherry Palmer" the President's wife in the early seasons of "24."

YES ! !

THAT was my thought earlier, too! The actress must've used Ms Obama as her model for the role!

I think Michelle's role model is Sherry Palmer.

286 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:23:13pm

re: #280 6pat6

re: #239 Alouette Michelle Obama reminds me of "Sherry Palmer" the President's wife in the early seasons of "24."

YES ! !

THAT was my thought earlier, too! The actress must've used Ms Obama as her model for the role!

SPOT ON observation!

287 Alouette  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:23:45pm

re: #284 David Simon

What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

Hillary Clinton, Gloria Steinem, Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi...

288 Clutch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:23:57pm

"You blocks!
You stones!
You worse than senseless things!
Know ye not the Obama-rama-ding-dong on the road to Shambala!?!"

Apologies to Willy Shakespeare and Three Dog Night, it's the flu medicine, I swear!

289 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:07pm

re: #266 Ojoe

re: #261 opnion

He won't wear a flag pin.

Does not prove anything , but all goes int his total conduct.
The comparison that the MSM was trying to make of Jackie Kennedy & Michelle Obama is just torturing good taste

290 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:07pm

re: #271 Ben Hur

re: #248 BigDana

re: #217 Frank_Mtl


Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...


I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

She looks better in this one:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.

Sorry! Don't like keffiyehs!

291 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:22pm

re: #279 Racer X

re: #250 MandyManners

Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce to you - B-HO and his WAB!

Oh my gosh - what a picture. :O

292 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:23pm

re: #247 mama winger

Why would anyone who despises Americans so much want to be their First Lady?

she'll start helping him to implement all the plans to cure america.
both of the the osamas are dangerous.

293 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:24pm

I still don't understand why Condi isn't lauded like this woman is.

(I know I know)

But still, great, you went to Princeton.

Condi was provost at Stanford and rose out of a much worse situation.

She actually LIVED under Jim Crow.

294 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:36pm

If America is such a terrible,mean, and fearful place to live as Michelle Obama and a whole host of liberals think; Then, Why do we have a problem controlling all the millions of people trying to get INTO this country?

295 Maui Girl  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:24:47pm

Meanies, complacent sloths, cynics, nation of fear (of losing the welfare check in the mail).

She's obviously referring to her fellow Democrats.

296 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:25:00pm

re: #273 unclassifiable

re: #191 1SG(ret)

Prunes can help with that "jammed up" feeling.
And they are cheap and do not need any preparation -- they come pitted. Although I undestand prune depitters can be a pretty mean bunch.

But they're dried fruit.

297 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:25:17pm

re: #246 Dave the...

she is surrounded by, and appealing to the hate America first crowd

I occasionally have to spend time with liberal Democrats. It's amazing how negative they are about everything. And the softer the life they have, the more they complain about how horrible America is.

Exactly. Perversely, it was the hard work of generations of great Americans that let them get to the point where their lives were spoiled and indolent enough that they even have time to sit around complaining about how "bad" things have become. Morons like Michelle Obama should spend a week pulling 14 hour days in a soybean field or driving a long-haul truck route before they open their traps. Sadder still, once upon a time a leisure class resulted in great leaps in art and entertainment. Now it's just time for googling obscure RAND corporation conspiracy theories or photoshopping Obama's face onto a Che t-shirt. "We are the shiftless moral panhandlers we seek."

298 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:25:22pm

re: #285 Alouette

I think Michelle's role model is Sherry Palmer.

Ms Obama has been around longer. But, who knows? Equal opportunity and all that!

299 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:25:40pm

re: #279 Racer X

re: #250 MandyManners

Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce to you - B-HO and his WAB!

Yes!

300 Maui Girl  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:25:58pm

re: #250 MandyManners


Good one. I think that's gonna be a new expression...that's woman is such a "WAB". Yep, love it. Gonna use it!

Thanks!

301 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:26:00pm

re: #269 red satellite

"Put up with"? They'll be thrilled! "She's just so authentic, darling! Doesn't it just educate you?"

302 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:26:23pm

re: #293 Ben Hur

I still don't understand why Condi isn't lauded like this woman is.

(I know I know)

But still, great, you went to Princeton.

Condi was provost at Stanford and rose out of a much worse situation.

She actually LIVED under Jim Crow.

BEN HUR!

Give me a "B"
Give me a "D"
Give me an "S"

What does it spell?

That's why.

303 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:26:40pm

re: #284 David Simon

What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

I left that one alone, especially since it was near the words "brown banana."

304 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:26:56pm

re: #289 opnion

But it proves I won't vote for him.

Outta here, got to get work done.

305 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:00pm

re: #301 Dianna

re: #269 red satellite

"Put up with"? They'll be thrilled! "She's just so authentic, darling! Doesn't it just educate you?"

ROTFLMAO!

306 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:10pm

Obama Bananarama

307 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:11pm

America will never live up to her expectations...

308 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:19pm

re: #274 6pat6

Michelle "I hate you white folk" Obama.

That's it! Run with it!

309 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:30pm
310 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:37pm
Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

Funny, but Michelle isn't exactly a good student of history (American or world).

Consider that this nation has always had its factionalism and divisiveness from the outset. The Founders (dead white guys, I know, heh!) played the factionalism as an advantage to create checks and balances between states and the central government. There was that little bit of trouble in the 19th century - a civil war that wasn't very civil, but it did feature a whole bunch of aggression because of complacency over the rights of man.

Complacency got this nation in trouble before too - ignoring threats of jihad, for example.

Then, there's the fact that nature created fear as an incentive to stay alive (okay, that's a biological/sociological impetus, not a historical one, but then again, had the US feared German aggression more pre 1941, it would have been in an even better position militarily to defeat the Nazis, for example). Ditto for Japanese aggression.

As for being cynics and sloths, no other nation on the planet works as hard as we do - and many will shun their vacations to work. After all, how many Frenchmen will take their crackberries with them on vacation to stay plugged in with work? Not many.

311 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:27:56pm

She is going to run for President as the first vialble African American woman candidate.

She will defeat a Muslim or Joo in the primaries.

You heard it here first.

312 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:10pm

PK,

On the (Micheal) Jackson scale of creepiness, where 1970 is least creepy and 2008 is run for your life, I'd say that's about 1995.

I much as I hate to admit it, that made me laugh.

313 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:19pm

Obama Mama
Bad mamajama
Trouble in the paradise

314 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:21pm

re: #303 MandyManners

re: #284 David Simon


What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

I left that one alone, especially since it was near the words "brown banana."

lol. At least you admit it.

GMTA

315 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:35pm

re: #290 BigDana

re: #271 Ben Hur


re: #248 BigDana

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

She looks better in this one:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.


Sorry! Don't like keffiyehs!


Not even a little bit?

316 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:41pm

re: #258 Peacekeeper

Shalom, habibi.

317 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:44pm

re: #284 David Simon

Mrs. Obama's heart.

318 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:44pm

Crackberries?

319 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:51pm

re: #307 Peacekeeper

America will never live up down to her expectations...

320 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:53pm

re: #300 Maui Girl

re: #250 MandyManners


Good one. I think that's gonna be a new expression...that's woman is such a "WAB". Yep, love it. Gonna use it!

Thanks!

You're welcome!

321 yochanan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:28:54pm

first lady obama

ROFLMAO

322 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:29:06pm

re: #284 David Simon

Let's NOT GO THERE.

323 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:29:12pm

re: #288 Clutch

"You blocks!
You stones!
You worse than senseless things!
Know ye not the Obama-rama-ding-dong on the road to Shambala!?!"

Apologies to Willy Shakespeare and Three Dog Night, it's the flu medicine, I swear!
Well, give us some!

324 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:29:22pm

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

325 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:29:24pm

My first try at haiku! #313

326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:09pm

Obama senior advisor blames Bush for Iran's anti-Americanism

Barack Obama's most senior military adviser says President Bush is to blame for Iran's bad behavior.

This assessment provided to Insight from retired Gen. Merrill McPeak provides a glimpse into how an Obama administration would deal with Iran.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly has referred to the ultimate destruction of Israel; is pursuing nuclear weapons in the opinion of some national security experts; and his Revolutionary Guard is training Iraqis to kill American military personnel in Iraq.

Just last week, Ahmadinejad said of Israel, "The world powers established this filthy bacteria, the Zionist regime, which is lashing out at the nations in the region like a wild beast."

In the view of McPeak, the most senior retired officer to back Obama's presidential run, Iran's behavior is a reaction to Bush's tough talk.

/spit

327 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:15pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

reparations

328 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:17pm

re: #309 bulwrk

re: #253 Ben Hur

U.S. Foreign Aid 2007


THat seals it.

Mean.

329 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:19pm

re: #317 Dianna

re: #284 David Simon

Mrs. Obama's heart.

Oooh, now there's one I didn't think of. +1 for that.

330 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:20pm

re: #271 Ben Hur

re: #248 BigDana


re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?
A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

She looks better in this one:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.

* * *
Excuse me, Ms. McCain wearing a keffiyeh is NOT good news, however young & innocent.

331 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:29pm

re: #283 Peacekeeper

On the (Micheal) Jackson scale of creepiness, where 1970 is least creepy and 2008 is run for your life, I'd say that's about 1995.

OHMAHLAWD

That is definitely one of the funniest things I have EVAH seen on LGF.

332 miguelj  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:34pm

OT, but a good link to an article about that great peace-lover Hugo Chavez, who is practically the reincarnation of Mother Teresa and Mahatma Gandhi rolled into one:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

brings to mind those great couplets by Brecht:

"When the Leaders speak of Peace
the common folk know
that war is coming.
When the Leaders *curse* war
the mobilization order
is already written out."

333 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:41pm

re: #297 Diamond Bullet

Morons like Michelle Obama should spend a week pulling 14 hour days in a soybean field

Perhaps Al Gore could teach her. (Since his dad taught him how to plow a hilly field with a team of mules and all that, which presumably they somehow practiced at the Willard Hotel in downtown DC)

334 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:43pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

Establishing re-education camps.

335 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:55pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

White reparations to blacks from the Civil War to the '60s. Watch...I bet this broad pushes for that kind of nonsense!

336 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:30:57pm

re: #314 David Simon

re: #303 MandyManners


re: #284 David Simon

What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

I left that one alone, especially since it was near the words "brown banana."

lol. At least you admit it.

GMTA

I sat on my hands until the temptation passed.

337 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:00pm

Show a little class, Michelle. You can afford it.

338 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:19pm

re: #328 Ben Hur

re: #309 bulwrk

re: #253 Ben Hur

U.S. Foreign Aid 2007


THat seals it.

Mean.

Show me a country that has done more to fight AIDS in Africa than the USA.

339 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:28pm

re: #315 Ben Hur

re: #290 BigDana

re: #271 Ben Hur


re: #248 BigDana


re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...


I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.


She looks better in this one:[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.


Sorry! Don't like keffiyehs!


Not even a little bit?

Nope. S'pose that makes me a bigot. Or (gasp) a racist?

340 Peacekeeper  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:36pm

Qwittin time (kisses)

341 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:37pm

re: #333 Occasional Reader

lol

342 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:31:43pm

re: #324 redstateredneck

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

Other WAB's.

343 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:32:00pm

re: #340 Peacekeeper

Qwittin time (kisses)

Ooooh - I want one of those .

344 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:32:18pm

re: #335 6pat6

re: #324 redstateredneck


As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

White reparations to blacks from the Civil War to the '60s. Watch...I bet this broad pushes for that kind of nonsense!

I was just thinking of the more broad "put whitey in his place" platform.

345 BigDana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:32:27pm

re: #330 alegrias

re: #271 Ben Hur

re: #248 BigDana


re: #217 Frank_Mtl


Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...


I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?
A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.


She looks better in this one:[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.

* * *
Excuse me, Ms. McCain wearing a keffiyeh is NOT good news, however young & innocent.

I'm with you on that one! I'll stick with "my" picture of her.

346 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:32:43pm

re: #333 Occasional Reader

OY Vey. I thought that said "perhaps Al Gore could TOUCH her".

Then I threw up a little.

347 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:33:15pm

I notice she claims America is full of "sloth."

Aside from all the animal jokes I could make, hasn't this 1980 "Japan is better" myth been knocked out of the water years ago.

Americans work more hours and harder than anyone on earth.

348 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:33:35pm

re: #340 Peacekeeper

Qwittin time (kisses)

Tease!

349 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:33:48pm

re: #327 loppyd

I don't owe any, and I won't pay any.

350 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:33:56pm

When "whites" become an ethnic minority in the US later this century, people like Michelle Obama will be first in line to kick them when they're down. But it won't be "mean" when she does it.

351 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:34:16pm
352 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:34:25pm

re: #343 mama winger

I think those are for OR and DD.

353 perkypauly  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:34:37pm

Teresa Heinz Kerry was bad, Hillary was and is one mean woman, but this Michelle Obama is not only one mean, bad dude but very dangerous one.

354 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:35:00pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

I notice she claims America is full of "sloth."

Aside from all the animal jokes I could make, hasn't this 1980 "Japan is better" myth been knocked out of the water years ago.

Americans work more hours and harder than anyone on earth.

Not the Americans Michelle knows, unless she wants to make the hardworking types work even harder to swing the social safety hammock.

355 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:35:00pm

re: #302 loppyd


Cause Condi is on the plantation.

/Daylight come and I didn't go home.

356 scaramouche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:35:08pm

At least she didn't talk about America's "malaise".

357 gymnast  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:35:17pm

re: #294 Nevergiveup

If America is such a terrible,mean, and fearful place to live as Michelle Obama and a whole host of liberals think; Then, Why do we have a problem controlling all the millions of people trying to get INTO this country?

When I was a kid growing up in Hyde Park, you could walk down 53rd Street and hear 60 different languages spoken between Drexel and the IC Station. Send all the people trying to get into the US to Hyde Park and you could re-integrate the neighborhood.

Do that same same walk down 53rd today and you are liable to find find a need for bi-lingualism that includes Ebonics.

358 godfrey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:35:44pm

re: #356 scaramouche

Just wait until Cornel West starts writing Barack's speeches.

359 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:04pm

re: #335 6pat6

re: #324 redstateredneck

As first lady, what will be the WAB's cause?

White reparations to blacks from the Civil War to the '60s. Watch...I bet this broad pushes for that kind of nonsense!

Yep. See my 327.

Conyers has been pushing it for years.

360 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:15pm

re: #293 Ben Hur

Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

Now, president Bush appointed many minorities to high positions, thus the democrats knew America would realize their inherent racism, which it didn’t, but they are still nervous, so here’s Obama.

361 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:20pm

re: #351 Iron Fist

Obama is Jimmuh Cartuh, and Michelle is his Ros'lyn.

Stands to reason that he would be as Jimmuh was (and is) - a capitulator, a "peace first"er, a world-class diplomatic buffoon.

362 bosforus  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:28pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

I notice she claims America is full of "sloth."

Aside from all the animal jokes I could make, hasn't this 1980 "Japan is better" myth been knocked out of the water years ago.

Americans work more hours and harder than anyone on earth.

I actually had to fight through a pack of sloths just to get to work today.

363 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:29pm

re: #303 MandyManners

Thank you.We don't need an Erectile Dysfuntion thread.

364 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:38pm

re: #330 alegrias

re: #271 Ben Hur


re: #248 BigDana

re: #217 Frank_Mtl

Talking about a US First Lady hopeful...

I have a nicer photo for you: John McCain's daughter Meghan. Beats the heck out of Chelsea, too, don't you think?
A friend of mine thinks she has "predator eyes," but I think he's just afraid of blondes.

She looks better in this one:
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She's better dressed.


* * *
Excuse me, Ms. McCain wearing a keffiyeh is NOT good news, however young & innocent.

It's great!

World Peace through fashion!

(Forget the fact that it's actually cross dressing)

365 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:41pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

No one noticed when I commented that I didn't feel like a sloth, since I hardly ever hung upside-down from branches.

Perhaps if I'd mentioned hanging by my 3 toes?

366 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:36:48pm

re: #326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Iran is a big enemy of al Qaeda," said McPeak, who was the Air Force's chief of staff and a Joint Chiefs member during the presidency of Bush's father.

I need to get McPeak in touch with Michael Ledeen asap.

McPeak, an Obama campaign co-chairman, was referring to Bush's post-September 11 speech in which he referred to North Korea, Iraq and Iran as an “axis of evil.”

"That drove us apart," said McPeak. "Obama's idea is, why not talk to them. Why not see if there isn't some common ground. Certainly, the fight against al Qaeda would be one of them."

Hey, by that logic, why not chat with AQ to see if we have common ground against Iran? Maybe invite Osama to a sleepover in the Lincoln Bedroom.

National security experts say Iran's rogue behavior pre-dates Bush's speech.

Gosh, ya think?

367 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:37:01pm

re: #338 loppyd

re: #328 Ben Hur

re: #309 bulwrk

re: #253 Ben Hur

U.S. Foreign Aid 2007


THat seals it.

Mean.

Show me a country that has done more to fight AIDS in Africa than the USA.

What in the world are you talking about? I haven't read anywhere in the MSM about Bush's 30 Billion dollars for Africa AIDS being increased to 60 Billion.

368 Outrider  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:37:06pm
“...just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents."


She probably has a correct assessment based on the associates she sees on a day to day basis. The liberals in trhis country are not known for their optimism and hope. But, she probably shouldn't knock it either, as the people she described are her husbands voter base.

369 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:37:14pm

re: #356 scaramouche

Same shit, different pile.

370 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:37:16pm

re: #326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obama senior advisor blames Bush for Iran's anti-Americanism


Barack Obama's most senior military adviser says President Bush is to blame for Iran's bad behavior.

This assessment provided to Insight from retired Gen. Merrill McPeak provides a glimpse into how an Obama administration would deal with Iran.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly has referred to the ultimate destruction of Israel; is pursuing nuclear weapons in the opinion of some national security experts; and his Revolutionary Guard is training Iraqis to kill American military personnel in Iraq.

Just last week, Ahmadinejad said of Israel, "The world powers established this filthy bacteria, the Zionist regime, which is lashing out at the nations in the region like a wild beast."

In the view of McPeak, the most senior retired officer to back Obama's presidential run, Iran's behavior is a reaction to Bush's tough talk.


/spit

* * *
Merrill McPeak, a Jimmy Carter kind of military man who Blames America First. Like Wesley Clark.

No wonder he supports a democrat.

371 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:37:22pm

re: #349 Dianna

re: #327 loppyd

I don't owe any, and I won't pay any.

To paraphrase Walter Williams, their ancestors were brought to a country where they are better off economically and have more civil liberties. Reparations, my ass.

372 Paul Atreides  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:38:22pm

Liberal women must be a pleasure to come to, at the end of the day.

Why any man would marry one is a mystery for the ages.

Michelle's theme song for the campaign should be Janet Jackson's "What Have You Done For Me Lately?".

373 Maximu§  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:38:23pm

Michelle, if you don't like America...feel free to leave anytime.

374 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:38:35pm

re: #353 perkypauly

Teresa Heinz Kerry was bad, Hillary was and is one mean woman, but this Michelle Obama is not only one mean, bad dude but very dangerous one.

yeah, she is a bad dude.

375 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:38:50pm
376 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:38:56pm

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Can he find advisors that are more stupid or has he cornered the whack-pack leftist market?

377 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:39:02pm

re: #358 godfrey

re: #356 scaramouche

Just wait until Cornel West starts writing Barack's speeches.

Barack will have to drop acid before he can recite them.

378 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:39:17pm

Condi on reparations:

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, one of the most prominent and influential blacks in the Bush administration, dismissed the idea Sunday of reparations to compensate the descendants of slaves. "Given the fact that there's plenty of blame to go around for slavery, plenty of blame to go around among African and Arab states, plenty of blame to go around among Western states -- I think we're better to look forward, not point fingers backward," Rice said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

(The link is to a pro reparations site. If you would like me to link it I will).

379 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:39:21pm

re: #333 Occasional Reader

re: #297 Diamond Bullet


Morons like Michelle Obama should spend a week pulling 14 hour days in a soybean field

Perhaps Al Gore could teach her. (Since his dad taught him how to plow a hilly field with a team of mules and all that, which presumably they somehow practiced at the Willard Hotel in downtown DC)

* * *
The Gores lived on Massachussetts Avenue, home of Embassy Row, with lots of palatial palaces in Washington, DC.

380 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:39:39pm

re: #360 Bar

re: #293 Ben Hur

Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

Now, president Bush appointed many minorities to high positions, thus the democrats knew America would realize their inherent racism, which it didn’t, but they are still nervous, so here’s Obama.


His secretary was the highest African American in his administration.

381 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:40:19pm

Michelle,

You need new friends.

382 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:40:29pm

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Iran is a big enemy of al Qaeda," said McPeak, who was the Air Force's chief of staff and a Joint Chiefs member during the presidency of Bush's father.

General McPeak is a first-class asshole! He did more to fuck up the Air Force during his tenure as AFCoS than anyone I can remember! He will always be remembered for such "important" issues as the redesign of the AF blue service dress uniform and other such drivel, at a time when the AF needed leadership in a BIG way.

Noting good to say about that prick! No surprise he is in Obama's camp.

383 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:40:33pm

O.T.
A Bikers Story

A biker is riding by the zoo, when he sees a little girl leaning into
the lion's cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket
and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her, under the eyes of her
screaming parents. The biker jumps off his bike, runs to the cage and
hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch. Whimpering from
the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl, and the biker
brings her to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly.

A reporter has seen the whole scene, and addressing the biker, says,
" Sir, this was the most gallant and brave thing I saw a man do in my
whole life. "

"Why, it was nothing, really, the lion was behind bars. I just saw this
little kid in danger, and acted as I felt right. "

"Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm a journalist, you
know, and tomorrow's papers will have this on the first page. What
motorcycle do you ride?

"A Harley Davidson."

The journalist leaves. The following morning the biker buys the paper
to see if it indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on first
page:

BIKER GANG MEMBER ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH.

Kinda a true story
F-ing MSM

384 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:40:36pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

re: #361 6pat6,

Yeah, I think Obama will be the Second Carter Term, if he is elected. He'll do as much damage to the United States as he can in his first four years, for fear he won't get a second shot at us

You forgot the part about traveling around the world as a former US President and disparaging the United States at any given opportunity.

385 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:40:47pm
386 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:41:12pm

"and Obama did win, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu..."

/

387 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:41:32pm

re: #47 Oh no...Sand People!

Hey sand people
you out there?
Shoot me an e-mail

388 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:41:56pm
389 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:42:13pm

re: #370 alegrias

Merril McPeak

His legacy as Chief of Staff has been the subject of much debate. Many accuse him of trying to run the Air Force as a corporation[citation needed], with his introduction of Total Quality Management and the uniform changes which strayed from the traditional military style. Some of his uniform changes were soon undone after his retirement. He was often accused of ignoring the needs of enlisted men, and looking out solely for his officers. There was a large debate over the somewhat traditional act of inducting the outgoing chief of staff into the Order of the Sword.

Following his Air Force career, McPeak entered the private sector as a consultant and business executive. He has been on the boards of directors for TWA, ECC International, where he served for several years as Chairman, Tektronix and other organizations. McPeak and his wife Elynor ("Ellie") currently reside in Lake Oswego, Oregon, where he continues to invest in and advise companies, especially in the "high tech" sector. She serves as a member of the Lake Oswego City Council.

In 1996, McPeak served as Oregon state chairman for the Bob Dole for President campaign. During the presidential election of 2000 McPeak endorsed George W. Bush and served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush.[1]

As the military and foreign policy of the Bush administration coalesced, however, McPeak expressed strong objections, especially with regard to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. McPeak later openly campaigned for Howard Dean's nomination, and when Dean withdrew, acted as an adviser for the John Kerry campaign. He was also one of twenty-seven signatories to the statement of the "Committee of Diplomats & Commanders for Change" calling the Bush Administration a failure at "preserving national security" and calling for Bush not to be re-elected.

He now is working as a co-chair on Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

390 ergo sum  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:42:14pm

re: #232 Ojoe

I am SO tired of this running down of my country, that I could spit.

And after all we have done for others. And this is a postcard published in FRANCE.


That HAS to be a photoshop or something. Obama told me last night that no other country likes us.

391 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:42:29pm

re: #373 Maximu%uFFFD

Michelle, if you don't like America...feel free to leave anytime.

Amen! I'm sure a much more tolerant, open, and pluralistic society, like, say, Saudi Arabia, would just love to hear what she has to say!

392 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:42:35pm

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

Sweeping majority? who voted against?

393 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:42:43pm

Reparations. Gotta watch both segments!

It's a hoot!

394 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:06pm

re: #380 Ben Hur

Ron Brown

395 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:10pm

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

396 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:11pm

Let's count the ways America and Americans are mean:

Tsunami relief - UN or US?
Katrina/Rita relief - every state in the country took folks in, offered shelter, jobs, help
What did this country do for New York after the airplanes were flown into the towers? Nothing? Or was there an outpouring of grief for people we didn't even know, along with donations to Red Cross and other organizations?
Aid to Africa for AIDS
Protection and help to just about every underdog on the face of the earth.
Low-cost medications in every country EXCEPT this one where we pay higher costs to subsidize the cost for others, and to ensure research continues in this field.

397 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:16pm

re: #378 loppyd

Later. Back to the home front for me.

398 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:28pm
399 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:43:54pm

"Saving the World from Idealists since 1945"
--Seen on a BBS somewhere

400 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:44:13pm

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Hum, let me ask ex-general McPeak: Who was behind the terrorists who blew up the marine barracks in Lebanon killing 244 of our kids? Who was behind the terrorists who blew up our soldiers barracks in Saudi Arabia? Who built Hezbollah into a terrorist organization? Who was caught sending weapons to Arafat? IRAN!

402 Catttt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:44:38pm

Compare and contrast -

President Bush's better half.

403 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:44:47pm
404 Macker  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:44:58pm

No wonder I gave this bitch the Race Card!

405 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:45:27pm

re: #398 Iron Fist

re: #384 loppyd,

That's for after he crashes the economy and sells America down the river to her enemies.

I stand corrected. :~)

406 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:45:36pm

re: #395 loppyd

re: #385 Ben Hur


House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

Maxine waters

407 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:45:39pm

re: #378 loppyd

Please don't. I really don't want to have a stroke this early in my life.

408 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:45:47pm

re: #392 SpartanWoman

re: #385 Ben Hur


House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

Sweeping majority? who voted against?

ACcording to the comments section, HEROES.

409 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:46:01pm

re: #395 loppyd


Ellison?

410 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:46:07pm

re: #395 loppyd

re: #385 Ben Hur


House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

Ellison?

411 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:46:18pm

re: #400 Nevergiveup

You bet your ass! And McPeak is an extremely vain man, too, never admitting to any mistake - it's someone else's fault/problem.

412 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:46:48pm

re: #400 Nevergiveup

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Hum, let me ask ex-general McPeak: Who was behind the terrorists who blew up the marine barracks in Lebanon killing 244 of our kids? Who was behind the terrorists who blew up our soldiers barracks in Saudi Arabia? Who built Hezbollah into a terrorist organization? Who was caught sending weapons to Arafat? IRAN!

They were preemptively reacting to the mean remarks they knew George W. Bush would make about them in the future.

413 Sunlight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:46:54pm

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

Why do we always have to find out what happens in the U.S. that could be good for Israel on Israeli websites?

/nevermind

414 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:47:17pm
415 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:47:18pm

re: #379 alegrias

re: #333 Occasional Reader

re: #297 Diamond Bullet


Morons like Michelle Obama should spend a week pulling 14 hour days in a soybean field


Perhaps Al Gore could teach her. (Since his dad taught him how to plow a hilly field with a team of mules and all that, which presumably they somehow practiced at the Willard Hotel in downtown DC)

* * *
The Gores lived on Massachussetts Avenue, home of Embassy Row, with lots of palatial palaces in Washington, DC.

All the more complex learning as how to plow hilly fields. Show the man some respect!

/

416 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:47:34pm

re: #395 loppyd

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

sanders against. or luap nor.

417 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:48:11pm

re: #389 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #370 alegrias

Merril McPeak


His legacy as Chief of Staff has been the subject of much debate. Many accuse him of trying to run the Air Force as a corporation[citation needed], with his introduction of Total Quality Management and the uniform changes which strayed from the traditional military style. Some of his uniform changes were soon undone after his retirement. He was often accused of ignoring the needs of enlisted men, and looking out solely for his officers. There was a large debate over the somewhat traditional act of inducting the outgoing chief of staff into the Order of the Sword.

Following his Air Force career, McPeak entered the private sector as a consultant and business executive. He has been on the boards of directors for TWA, ECC International, where he served for several years as Chairman, Tektronix and other organizations. McPeak and his wife Elynor ("Ellie") currently reside in Lake Oswego, Oregon, where he continues to invest in and advise companies, especially in the "high tech" sector. She serves as a member of the Lake Oswego City Council.

In 1996, McPeak served as Oregon state chairman for the Bob Dole for President campaign. During the presidential election of 2000 McPeak endorsed George W. Bush and served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush.[1]

As the military and foreign policy of the Bush administration coalesced, however, McPeak expressed strong objections, especially with regard to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. McPeak later openly campaigned for Howard Dean's nomination, and when Dean withdrew, acted as an adviser for the John Kerry campaign. He was also one of twenty-seven signatories to the statement of the "Committee of Diplomats & Commanders for Change" calling the Bush Administration a failure at "preserving national security" and calling for Bush not to be re-elected.

He now is working as a co-chair on Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

* * *
Great, so he's a Bush-Deranged advisor to Senator Obama.

President Bush is a class act for endorsing McCain, another formerly Bush Deranged Senator.

Thankfully, McCain says there's no point re-litigating the whys of invading Iraq, now we gotta win.

418 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:48:12pm

re: #404 Macker

Has she been a woman her entire life( as far as we know)?

419 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:48:21pm

re: #388 Iron Fist

re: #380 Ben Hur,

But she had the single most important job in the Clinton Administration: covering for Bill's affairs. Way more important than National Security.

What'd ya mean? That was national security.

420 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:48:36pm

Of course America's a mean, divided country. There are people who aren't voting for Barack.

I'll admit, though- the thought of Barack Somethingorother Obama does make me fearful.

421 Muadib  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:48:50pm

Michelle Obama has it backwards. The USA is the most generous and kind nation on the planet. Socialism is what's "just downright mean". The cynics, sloths, and complacents are those that support Barack Obama.

422 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:49:01pm

re: #395 loppyd

re: #385 Ben Hur


House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

Dingellberry.

423 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:49:19pm

But I waaant one!

424 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:49:27pm

re: #389 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh. Lake Oswego. The old elitist Portland suburb. L.O. is played out, and the power has shifted to places like Wilsonville, Hillsboro, etc.

425 Catttt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:49:34pm

re: #401 Ben Hur

Monroe Marine's family 'living a nightmare' as puppy tossing video goes viral

Was Killing the Puppy a Way of Coping for One Marine?

Bush's war made him do it.

Oh for pity's sakes. The MSM is finding excuses for someone heartlessly and pointlessly slaughtering a puppy for grins? One thing I've found in the past - no matter who one is or what one's position is, almost all Americans get way over on one's bad side if one kills a puppy.

426 pinky  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:49:39pm

Her description sounds suspiciously like the average lefty. See what happens you you surround yourself with those miserable people? ;)

427 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:50:01pm

re: #415 Bobibutu

I think Barry plowed a mule in his coke days.

428 bosforus  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:50:05pm

re: #388 Iron Fist

re: #380 Ben Hur,

But she had the single most important job in the Clinton Administration: covering for Bill's affairs. Way more important than National Security.

and way more difficult

429 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:50:48pm

re: #414 SpartanWoman

re: #401 Ben Hur


Monroe Marine's family 'living a nightmare' as puppy tossing video goes viral

Was Killing the Puppy a Way of Coping for One Marine?

Bush's war made him do it.


He's a sociopath POS


You, of course, are referring to the journalist, and not the fake killinig a puppy vid.

430 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:51:02pm

re: #423 Ben Hur

[Link: hotair.com...]

But I waaant one!


Is that awesome? I want 2!

431 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:51:31pm

re: #360 Bar

Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

Just off the top of my head: Ron Brown, Mike Espy, Jesse Brown, Hazel O'Leary, Bill Richardson, Jocelyn Elders, Deval Patrick. Something like 13% of Clinton's appointees were black.

432 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:52:00pm

re: #429 Ben Hur

re: #414 SpartanWoman


re: #401 Ben Hur

Monroe Marine's family 'living a nightmare' as puppy tossing video goes viral
Was Killing the Puppy a Way of Coping for One Marine?

Bush's war made him do it.


He's a sociopath POS

You, of course, are referring to the journalist, and not the fake killinig a puppy vid.


If it's a fake video then the journalist is a POS if it's real then animal abuse (with a grin, no less) is diagnostic for sociopathy.

433 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:52:39pm

Can anyone imagine Lady Bird Johnson talking down her country?
Can you imagine Nancy Reagan talking down her country?

434 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:52:59pm

re: #433 alegrias

Can anyone imagine Lady Bird Johnson talking down her country?
Can you imagine Nancy Reagan talking down her country?

Never!

435 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:06pm

re: #416 coquimbojoe

re: #395 loppyd

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel

A sweeping majority of 404 House members endorsed the resolution, while one voted against it and four abstained.

Going to hunt for the roll call now.

Anyone want to guess?

sanders against. or luap nor.

Here's the roll call

No: luaP noR

Some others voted present and some others didn't vote.

436 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:12pm

Hey loppy...
get your Bahstun ass movin'...
KIDDING!

437 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:42pm

re: #433 alegrias

Can anyone imagine Hillary Clinton talking down her country?

/

438 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:43pm

re: #427 Endangered in MASS

lol

439 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:53pm

re: #433 alegrias

Can anyone imagine Lady Bird Johnson talking down her country?
Can you imagine Nancy Reagan talking down her country?

Can you imagine Monica going down on her country?

440 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:53:59pm

H. Res. 951: Condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, and for... (Vote On Passage)

Nay TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]

And the weasels are:

Present HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]

Present MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]

Present WA-7 McDermott, James [D]

441 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:54:05pm

re: #428 bosforus

re: #388 Iron Fist


re: #380 Ben Hur,

But she had the single most important job in the Clinton Administration: covering for Bill's affairs. Way more important than National Security.


and way more difficult

Who do you want answering the phone at 3 AM? Hillary's been there and done it!

442 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:54:26pm

re: #429 Ben Hur

Oh, no, not that again.

I scare myself on this subject. I really do.

443 tigerwoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:54:48pm

“See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”

Why does it always come back to give us something? Let me tell you, I own two rental houses which we rent to section 8 tenants. They get plenty!

444 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:55:10pm

re: #431 Bob Munck

Something like 13% of Clinton's appointees were black.

How many of his fluffers were black?

445 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:55:23pm

re: #431 Bob Munck

re: #360 Bar


Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

Just off the top of my head: Ron Brown, Mike Espy, Jesse Brown, Hazel O'Leary, Bill Richardson, Jocelyn Elders, Deval Patrick. Something like 13% of Clinton's appointees were black.

High Position usually refers to State, Defense, Justice, and perhaps Treasury. So that's a big 0 for Clinton, and since when is Bill Richardson Black?

446 Maine's Michael  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:55:28pm

I wonder if Michele Obama has given any thought to just how mean towards blacks the Islamic world her husband wants to cozy up to, is.

How would President Obama handle Sudan?

447 Whammo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:55:46pm

This country is going to miss having a classy first lady like Laura Bush.

448 TalkinKamel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:56:12pm

#414 Spartan Woman

Yes, he's a POS---assuming that video is authentic (if it's not, it's a POS.)

In no way does this reflect on the majority of our fighting men---though the Left will try to spin it that way, who have treated the Iraqi people compassionately and fairly (and the majority of them are kind to animals, too.)

And those sending death threats to the suspected marine's family are POS's too.

449 lobosan5  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:56:52pm

yep...all that dang money n'all...make anybody mean...
N'all that education n'board meetins n'such...then there's tryin'hard ta love a country what made all the sht possible...I know i would have a real hard time.
Being a educated fool is rough, huh, Mrs.B_O?

450 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:02pm

re: #446 Maine's Michael

I wonder if Michele Obama has given any thought to just how mean towards blacks the Islamic world her husband wants to cozy up to, is.

How would President Obama handle Sudan?


That will come out in the Arab press when he's elected.

Then, you'll hear, "We don't hate America, only Barack."

With nice political cartoons to boot.

451 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:04pm

re: #284 David Simon

What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

They go down-de-down-down.

452 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:11pm

re: #440 loppyd

H. Res. 951: Condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, and for... (Vote On Passage)

Nay TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]

And the weasels are:

Present HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]

Present MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]

Present WA-7 McDermott, James [D]

Is anyone as surprised as me that Maxine Waters apparently voted for this? WTF?

453 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:36pm

I think that The lovely Michelle may be on to something,
Tsunami Relief? The Criminal Bush caused it anyway.
African Aids Relief? Uh huh , a little more support for Planned Parenthood & the situation would not exist.
School Lunch program? Just an attempt to keep people fat & happy.
katrina Relief? Hey if Cheney did not blow the levee, there would not have been a problem.
The Invasion of Normandy? What , you thouhght that it was to liberate Europe? It was just war mongering.
I could go on & on, but you get the idea.
We really should feel honored that Michelle still chooses to live here& we need to make her proud.

454 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:42pm

re: #436 MrMom

Hey loppy...
get your Bahstun ass movin'...
KIDDING!

My ass got beat. :~(

455 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:51pm

re: #443 tigerwoman

They live in a 1.6 million dollar historic home.

456 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:57:57pm

re: #435 Kosh's Shadow

No: luaP noR

He's even crazier (and/or more evil) than I thought.

Deeply disturbing that he's even managed to get as far as he has in US politics.

457 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:11pm

re: #445 Nevergiveup

re: #431 Bob Munck

re: #360 Bar


Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.


Just off the top of my head: Ron Brown, Mike Espy, Jesse Brown, Hazel
O'Leary, Bill Richardson, Jocelyn Elders, Deval Patrick. Something like
13% of Clinton's appointees were black.

High
Position usually refers to State, Defense, Justice, and perhaps
Treasury. So that's a big 0 for Clinton, and since when is Bill
Richardson Black?


Since someone adjusted the saturation on his photos.

458 ergo sum  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:17pm

re: #287 Alouette

re: #284 David Simon


What are "shrivelledy-up things"?

Hillary Clinton, Gloria Steinem, Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi...


That was spit worthy! Sweet!

459 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:20pm

re: #448 TalkinKamel

#414 Spartan Woman

Yes, he's a POS---assuming that video is authentic (if it's not, it's a POS.)

In no way does this reflect on the majority of our fighting men---though the Left will try to spin it that way, who have treated the Iraqi people compassionately and fairly (and the majority of them are kind to animals, too.)

And those sending death threats to the suspected marine's family are POS's too.

No argument from me on any of this. I loved the stories of servicemen bringing Iraqi dogs back to the US. And I never suggested that the alleged action of one reflects on the many.

460 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:23pm

re: #440 loppyd

H. Res. 951: Condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, and for... (Vote On Passage)

Nay TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]

And the weasels are:

Present HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]

Present MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]

Present WA-7 McDermott, James [D]

That's to expected of Baghdad Jim McDimwitt. We can take Saddam at face value but Bush will lie as well as a POS Felon. (Passing illegally recorded phone call illegally to the media).
*spit*

461 mama winger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:29pm

re: #431 Bob Munck

Bill Richardson is black?

462 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:45pm

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

since when is Bill Richardson Black?

Learn to read.

463 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:57pm

Afstan: Don't tell M. Dion

The top [US] military commander in the Mideast [and much more] said Wednesday that he does not expect Taliban forces in Afghanistan to launch a spring offensive this year.

If anything, he said, he sees the momentum continuing to swing in the direction of coalition forces.

"The spring offensive is going to be by our people, as they move out and take advantage of the situation that they helped create through their good works there in the fall of last year," Adm. William Fallon told the House Armed Services Committee.

We've been hearing phony reports of the "dire" situration in IRaq for weeks now, and warnings of the coming Feared Annual Taliban Spring Offensive (or FATSO). Funny thing, I recall the same warnings about FATSo last year, but it the Taliban never showed up. Not skipping a beat the journos started filing reports about "eerie silence".

Oh, no not the Jihad of "eerie silence"!

464 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:58:58pm

re: #293 Ben Hur

I still don't understand why Condi isn't lauded like this woman is.

(I know I know)

But still, great, you went to Princeton.

Condi was provost at Stanford and rose out of a much worse situation.

She actually LIVED under Jim Crow.

Grew up in Bombingham.

465 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 1:59:09pm

re: #454 loppyd

re: #436 MrMom


Hey loppy...
get your Bahstun ass movin'...
KIDDING!

My ass got beat. :~(


ahem.

466 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:00:05pm

re: #460 jcm

I still can't believe Paul got any support in the primary.

467 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:00:06pm
468 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:00:13pm

re: #460 jcm

Capuano is a moonbat tool who represents Cambridge. Need I say more?

469 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:00:54pm

re: #465 Ben Hur

re: #454 loppyd

re: #436 MrMom


Hey loppy...
get your Bahstun ass movin'...
KIDDING!


My ass got beat. :~(


ahem.

post this comment regret has settled in.

470 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:01:07pm

re: #464 debutaunt

Yeah, but Condi is proud of America, so she doesn't count as a real black woman to the liberals.

471 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:01:08pm

re: #462 Bob Munck

re: #445 Nevergiveup


Well, Pres Bill Clinton, being the first "black president", never appointed minorities to any high positions that I know of.

since when is Bill Richardson Black?

Learn to read.

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

472 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:01:40pm

re: #468 loppyd

re: #460 jcm

Capuano is a moonbat tool who represents Cambridge. Need I say more?

a masshole

473 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:01:49pm

re: #441 Kenneth

Who do you want answering the phone at 3 AM? Hillary's been there and done it!


Scroll down a little...
[Link: politicalhumor.about.com...]

474 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:02:06pm
475 scaramouche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:02:10pm

"Just downright mean"; "guided by fear"--she's describing the oily Wahhabi kingdom to a "t". If she weren't a woman and thus, according to Allah's law, unequal to a man, she'd be a perfect candidate for the Committee for the Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue.

476 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:02:32pm

re: #454 loppyd

re: #436 MrMom


Hey loppy...
get your Bahstun ass movin'...
KIDDING!

My ass got beat. :~(

Happens to the best ONCE in a while...

477 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:02:41pm

re: #464 debutaunt

re: #293 Ben Hur


I still don't understand why Condi isn't lauded like this woman is.

(I know I know)

But still, great, you went to Princeton.

Condi was provost at Stanford and rose out of a much worse situation.

She actually LIVED under Jim Crow.


Grew up in Bombingham.

* * *
Ms. Rice lost a childhood friend in the Birmingham church bombings.

478 Catttt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:03:13pm

re: #439 Ben Hur

re: #433 alegrias


Can anyone imagine Lady Bird Johnson talking down her country?
Can you imagine Nancy Reagan talking down her country?

Can you imagine Monica going down on her country?

On - no. For - yes.

479 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:03:29pm

Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.

480 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:03:36pm

re: #470 Kenneth

re: #464 debutaunt

Yeah, but Condi is proud of America, so she doesn't count as a real black woman to the liberals.

Wasn't she called Aunt Jemima or something equally degrading?

481 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:03:54pm
we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.


"And that's just our campaign, the rest of the country is worse than us" - she concluded to the rabid applause of many...

482 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:03:54pm
483 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:04:00pm

re: #479 Ben Hur

Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.

Except apparently it is not true.

484 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:04:28pm

re: #477 alegrias

Ms. Rice lost a childhood friend in the Birmingham church bombings

Yeah, well, Michelle was once given a dirty salad fork at the Lawyer's Dining Room at Sidley & Austin. So don't try to claim that Michelle hasn't been there.

485 zarxos  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:04:44pm

UT Austin and Stanford have joined Berkeley in partnering with King Abdullah's new university in Saudi Arabia.

486 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:05:04pm

re: #472 SpartanWoman

re: #468 loppyd

re: #460 jcm

Capuano is a moonbat tool who represents Cambridge. Need I say more?

a masshole

Well, some people may call me that. LOL

487 Whammo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:05:30pm

re: #64 Jfundie

Barack Obama’s wife Michelle is quoted in New Yorker Magazine saying America is a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents, and we’re “just downright mean.”

So, does she support ending Affirmative Action?

Or welfare?

488 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:05:45pm

re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.

489 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:06:04pm

Guess some folks missed the "Up Up with People" and the "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing in Perfect Harmony" campaign in the 1960s and 1970s.

490 mypetjawa  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:06:10pm

Just in case this got lost in the link thingy:

Miracle! The Return of the Staged Quran in Rubble Photo

491 Pope Insouciance IV  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:06:12pm

“The life that I’m talking about that most people are living has gotten progressively worse since I was a little girl. . . . So if you want to pretend like there was some point over the last couple of decades when your lives were easy, I want to meet you!”

I graduated from college during the Carter years - let me tell you about hard times.
I sure didn't go right into Harvard Law.
But somehow I still think of the USA as a great country.

492 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:06:48pm

OK.

Anyone who's lived in Israel, or dealt with Israelis can identify with this:

These are "typical" Israelis when they travel.

I know of at least 4 that have been eaten in Africa.

493 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:06:56pm

re: #479 Ben Hur

Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.

Very sad.

Dirty Dancing was the sh*t when I was in HS.

And of course I was a sucker for Ghost.

494 mattm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:07:11pm

Remember mean = questioning a liberals ideas.

495 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:07:28pm

re: #485 zarxos

UT Austin and Stanford have joined Berkeley in partnering with King Abdullah's new university in Saudi Arabia.

Don't worry, I'm sure King Abdullah U won't do anything evil like discriminate against women, or Jews, or gays.

496 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:07:43pm

re: #488 Bob Munck

re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.

Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.

497 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:08:19pm

Serious screaming match going on in the office next to mine.

Going to investigate.

498 TalkinKamel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:08:25pm

#459 Spartan Woman

Of course you weren't saying all our soldiers are like this! (I just thought I should reiterate it, for the benefit of any lurkers, Trolls and would-be trolls who might be reading!)

Oh yes, I love the stories about the soldiers taking dogs home with them. I also love stories about them helping Iraqi children. (Jawa Report has a story about some of them who helped a little Iraqi girl get a desperately needed operation.)

499 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:08:48pm

re: #479 Ben Hur

Pancreatic cancer. That's a death sentence.

500 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:00pm

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

501 Sunlight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:03pm
502 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:11pm

re: #493 loppyd

re: #479 Ben Hur


Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.


Very sad.

Dirty Dancing was the sh*t when I was in HS.

And of course I was a sucker for Ghost.


Every guys worst nightmare when the GF wants to stay in and watch a movie. *groan*

503 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:25pm

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #488 Bob Munck


re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.

Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.


With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.

504 Ma Sands  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:26pm

re: #497 loppyd

Watch out for flying missiles!

505 mattm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:29pm

re: #490 mypetjawa

Just in case this got lost in the link thingy:

Miracle! The Return of the Staged Quran in Rubble Photo

Those pesky smart bombs just won't destroy the krapran. Does it take a rocket scientist to realize that if the concrete buildignis destroyed, the koran would be gone or in a bunch of pieces.

506 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:32pm

re: #12 antishock8

Keep that fat mouth yappin', Michelle. Every time you speak up Hillary picks up delegates. I'm going to love to see this crazy person during the Presidential elections if she doesn't manage to sabotage the Obama campaign...

She's gonna make Tuh-RAY-zuh look like a model of sanity and gentility by comparison.

507 alegrias  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:09:57pm

re: #484 Occasional Reader

re: #477 alegrias


Ms. Rice lost a childhood friend in the Birmingham church bombings

Yeah, well, Michelle was once given a dirty salad fork at the Lawyer's Dining Room at Sidley & Austin. So don't try to claim that Michelle hasn't been there.

* * *
Well, Si Se Puede Sue Me--People who eat tortillas don't necessarily know their salad from their entree forks!

508 nikis-knight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:10pm

If she thinks life in this country is so hard, perhaps she can go live in the one her husband's cousin lives in? I hear things are sooo much better over there.

509 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:11pm

re: #480 redstateredneck

re: #470 Kenneth


re: #464 debutaunt

Yeah, but Condi is proud of America, so she doesn't count as a real black woman to the liberals.


Wasn't she called Aunt Jemima or something equally degrading?


Not that I recall

510 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:12pm

re: #493 loppyd

re: #479 Ben Hur


Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.


Very sad.

Dirty Dancing was the sh*t when I was in HS.

And of course I was a sucker for Ghost.

This may only be a rumor.

511 scaramouche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:40pm

Sorry, not a Condi fan. Foggy Bottom has wreaked havoc with her powers of reasoning and perception, and she's convinced herself that the Palestinians are akin to pre-Civil rights-era Mississippi "Negroes" and that Mahmoud Abbas--Mahmoud Abbas!--is their frikkin' Martin Luther King.

Sad to say, that's even more out to lunch than anything that's come out of Obama's mouth.

512 Izzy Dunne  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:44pm

BEHEAD THOSE WHO SAY WE ARE MEAN!

513 mattm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:46pm

re: #501 Sunlight

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


Roll call

Lookie who voted Nay, Ron Paul. Hmm.

514 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:53pm

re: #505 mattm

re: #490 mypetjawa

Just in case this got lost in the link thingy:

Miracle! The Return of the Staged Quran in Rubble Photo

Those pesky smart bombs just won't destroy the krapran. Does it take a rocket scientist to realize that if the concrete buildignis destroyed, the koran would be gone or in a bunch of pieces.

Was Green Helmet Guy anywhere nearby?

515 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:10:54pm

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

My sarcasm was directed at you Mr Princeton. You implied black. It was read as black.

516 looking closely  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:11:07pm

re: #229 ploome hineni

re: #196 looking closely

She's not a child, she's not stupid, and she's also not new to being the wife of a politician. Its kind of odd that she hasn't learned already, but I would expect a major smackdown by her handlers promptly.

she is surrounded by, and appealing to the hate America first crowd

I am sure she would never understand why we are critical of her


I think she would understand quite well. Again, she's not stupid. She just disagrees. From the article:


It’s not that [Michelle] Obama doesn’t know the anodyne, wifely things to say (essentially, nothing). She is, after all, a “community and external affairs” professional. But her pride visibly chafes at being asked to subsume her personality, to make herself seem duller and less independent than she is, even in the service of getting her husband elected President of the United States. In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”


Also, reading the above articles, it appears that the Obama campaign *DID* try to get her to be more positive in her speech, but she refused.

Ultimately, I think this whole thing will be a non-issue should her husband get the Dem nomination, because she probably won't be making her "stump" speech anymore after that, and she really will be shuffled off to the side.

Ultimately, no matter how much she hates (or loves) America, she's not the one running for office.

517 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:11:10pm

re: #500 Bob Munck
GAZE
/that's not "Gaza" Mr. peace sign

518 WOHBuckeye  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:11:21pm

re: #484 Occasional Reader

re: #477 alegrias

Ms. Rice lost a childhood friend in the Birmingham church bombings

Yeah, well, Michelle was once given a dirty salad fork at the Lawyer's Dining Room at Sidley & Austin. So don't try to claim that Michelle hasn't been there.

Priceless.

519 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:11:51pm

re: #513 mattm

re: #501 Sunlight

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


Roll call

Lookie who voted Nay, Ron Paul. Hmm.

Jew-hatin' scum.

Suck on that, Paulians.

520 Sunlight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:02pm
521 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:02pm

re: #509 Ben Hur

cute pun, real cute

522 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:07pm

re: #502 MrMom

Every guys worst nightmare when the GF wants to stay in and watch a movie. *groan*

I can think of worse nightmares for you menfolk:

Beaches and Steel Magnolias come to mind...

523 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:11pm

Butt Munch is back?

524 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:12pm

re: #474 buzzsawmonkey

I wish America could be proud of Condi.

That will not happen for me..an Israel basher and arab-loving POS like Condi? She has made her legacy very clear.

Bolton for Sec. of State in 2008!

525 Whiterasta  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:19pm

re: #492 Ben Hur

Don't play with things that can eat you!

526 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:34pm

re: #480 redstateredneck

And "House N***er" by the KosKidKreeps

I have many problems with Condi's work as Sec of State, but I still respect her and credit Bush for giving her the job.

527 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:47pm

re: #503 opnion

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #488 Bob Munck


re: #471 Nevergiveup


Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.


So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.


Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.


With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.

but we ain't not Princeton graduates. right?

528 Lively  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:48pm

re: #401 Ben Hur

Monroe Marine's family 'living a nightmare' as puppy tossing video goes viral

Was Killing the Puppy a Way of Coping for One Marine?

Bush's war made him do it.

This is exactly what Michelle is talking about.

/

529 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:12:51pm

re: #483 Nevergiveup

re: #479 Ben Hur


Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live

Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.


Except apparently it is not true.

Link?

530 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:13:08pm

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint


Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Hey, Bob? Your sentence construction was, at best, confusing. Get over it.

531 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:13:15pm

re: #500 Butt Munch

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

I wouldn't make any bets like that, moron.

532 looking closely  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:13:23pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

re: #361 6pat6,

Yeah, I think Obama will be the Second Carter Term, if he is elected. He'll do as much damage to the United States as he can in his first four years, for fear he won't get a second shot at us


Its that old deja-vu all over again.

The growing combination of a shaky economy, high oil prices, and "tension" in Iran is probably NOT best dealt with by a Marxist/pacifist in the oval office.

533 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:13:37pm

re: #527 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #503 opnion


re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #488 Bob Munck

re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.

Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.

With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.

but we ain't not Princeton graduates. right?

no, I are not. Is youse?

534 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:13:39pm

re: #510 Occasional Reader

Hopefully it is just that.

535 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:07pm

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Hey, but I did just barely graduate HS, does that count?

536 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:26pm

re: #522 loppyd

re: #502 MrMom


Every guys worst nightmare when the GF wants to stay in and watch a movie. *groan*

I can think of worse nightmares for you menfolk:

Beaches and Steel Magnolias come to mind...


Oooohh...just threw up a little. You don't do that to the BF, do you?

537 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:30pm

re: #529 Ben Hur

See my #510.

538 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:33pm

If Clinton wins - she will pick Obama as her running mate-- As a peace offering to disgruntled Obama supporters. (and, as it turns out, she knows Obama is her ticket into the white house-- as it will be an unstoppable ticket)

If Obama wins - the Clintons are finished.


I'm so glad Rush supporters can see the bigger picture.
/

539 TalkinKamel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:35pm

511 Scaramouche

I agree with you about Condi, Scaramouche---and, Lizards all,, since Scaramouche is here, everybody go her website right now (just click on her name) and read her post about the plight of Jews in Britain today. (It's at the top---great, if horrifying, read.)

540 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:14:39pm

re: #501 Sunlight

Ron Paul the only nay.

541 Whammo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:07pm

re: #103 Iron Fist

re: #88 greggriffith,

If he win's, she'll complain when he falls apart under pressure. It won't be his fault when the economy collapses, you see. It's mean, old America's fault.

You can spot this kind of person a mile away. Nothing is her fault. It's all the meanies that are out to get her! she comes close to being paranoid.

Vast (insert boogie man here) conspiracy?

542 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:16pm

Jack Black was in Bill Clinton's cabinet? Cool!

543 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:21pm

re: #526 Kenneth

Agreed.

544 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:21pm

re: #533 opnion

re: #527 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #503 opnion


re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint


re: #488 Bob Munck

re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.


So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.


Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.


With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.


but we ain't not Princeton graduates. right?

no, I are not. Is youse?

Did you get stuck n Irak?

545 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:28pm

re: #519 Ward Cleaver

re: #513 mattm

re: #501 Sunlight

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


Roll call

Lookie who voted Nay, Ron Paul. Hmm.

Jew-hatin' scum.

Suck on that, Paulians.

Can't this guy be made to lose come November. What's that black lib antisemites name from the south who was targeted for defeat?

546 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:29pm

re: #529 Ben Hur

re: #483 Nevergiveup


re: #479 Ben Hur

Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live
Terrible.

At least he'll live on in film.


Except apparently it is not true.

Link?


We'll know in 5 weeks

547 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:15:51pm

re: #531 Ward Cleaver

re: #500 Butt Munch


re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

I wouldn't make any bets like that, moron.


I hate you Ward. I was just going for the "Butt Munch"!
/See loppy, I got bested also!
//Don't think "my ass got beat" Heh.

548 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:16:11pm

Seriously creepy.

We Are The Ones Song by will.i.am - Obama

549 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:16:18pm

re: #535 Bar

re: #500 Bob Munck


re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Hey, but I did just barely graduate HS, does that count?

Youse no, I my ownself , tink dat wes all shud go & get are GED'S.
Den , we kould debate more better

550 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:16:52pm

re: #365 Dianna

re: #347 Ben Hur

No one noticed when I commented that I didn't feel like a sloth, since I hardly ever hung upside-down from branches.

Perhaps if I'd mentioned hanging by my 3 toes?

I wanted to respond, but I just didn't feel like moving.

551 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:16:54pm

re: #500 Bob Munck

It's your own fault; what you wrote is the problem.

Just say, "whoops! I should have made myself clearer!" and move on.

552 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:17:08pm

re: #535 Bar

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Hey, but I did just barely graduate HS, does that count?

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

553 Green Helmet Guy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:17:09pm

I am sure mrs. Obama means America should look to role models like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Paleostinians, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Algeria, Egypt, Syria, China, Rwanda, HAMAS, Hezbollah, Osama...

554 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:17:49pm

re: #505 mattm

re: #490 mypetjawa


Just in case this got lost in the link thingy:

Miracle! The Return of the Staged Quran in Rubble Photo

Those pesky smart bombs just won't destroy the krapran. Does it take a rocket scientist to realize that if the concrete buildignis destroyed, the koran would be gone or in a bunch of pieces.

Hey, if you can conveniently find the passport of a guy who just crashed a jet into a building...

/lifted from another site.

555 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:17:51pm

re: #536 MrMom

re: #522 loppyd

re: #502 MrMom


Every guys worst nightmare when the GF wants to stay in and watch a movie. *groan*


I can think of worse nightmares for you menfolk:Beaches and Steel Magnolias come to mind...


Oooohh...just threw up a little. You don't do that to the BF, do you?

Nah. We have two TVs!
Besides, if I never see either of them again, I will be just fine.

556 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:17:51pm

re: #538 FrogMarch

If Clinton wins - she will pick Obama as her running mate-- As a peace offering to disgruntled Obama supporters. (and, as it turns out, she knows Obama is her ticket into the white house-- as it will be an unstoppable ticket)

If Obama wins - the Clintons are finished.


I'm so glad Rush supporters can see the bigger picture.
/

A Clinton/Obama ticket would be tough to beat, and in 8 years, he'd have the experience he lacks now, and could be hard to beat then, too. I don't think America could survive...

557 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:18:04pm

re: #1 Endangered in MASS

Mean people don't suck


/Bill Clinton

558 redstateredneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:18:10pm

Quittin' time, you haters.
Later, {lizards}!

559 looking closely  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:18:16pm

re: #538 FrogMarch

If Clinton wins - she will pick Obama as her running mate-- As a peace offering to disgruntled Obama supporters. (and, as it turns out, she knows Obama is her ticket into the white house-- as it will be an unstoppable ticket)
/


First of all, she's probably not going to be in a position to offer this to Obama.

But second, who says it would be an "unstoppable" ticket?

Clinton is still carrying around a lot of baggage, and as the head of the ticket, the attention would still be focused on her, not Obama.

560 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:00pm

re: #553 Green Helmet Guy

I am sure mrs. Obama means America should look to role models like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Paleostinians, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Algeria, Egypt, Syria, China, Rwanda, HAMAS, Hezbollah, Osama...

Hey, that's what she learned at the Third World Club; that all these countries are better than we are. And, hellooo, the Third World Club was at PRINCETON, so they're like really smart n' stuff. (Right, Bob Munck?)

561 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:08pm

re: #521 SpartanWoman

re: #509 Ben Hur

cute pun, real cute


You're being nice.

Admit that was horrible.

562 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:13pm

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint


Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Now I just had to look.

You have a nice peace symbol upon clicking your football.

I guess those of us with diminished intellect would not recognize an apparent contradiction.

563 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:14pm

Gotta run. Play nice.
Pssst...don't feed the troll? Moby, moby not.

564 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:18pm

re: #546 Shug

re: #529 Ben Hur

re: #483 Nevergiveup


re: #479 Ben Hur


Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live
Terrible.At least he'll live on in film.


Except apparently it is not true.


Link?


We'll know in 5 weeks

I don't remember were I read that it might not be true. I presume on Drudge.

565 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:31pm

re: #547 MrMom

Welcome to the club. :~)

566 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:19:52pm

re: #559 looking closely

re: #538 FrogMarch


If Clinton wins - she will pick Obama as her running mate-- As a peace offering to disgruntled Obama supporters. (and, as it turns out, she knows Obama is her ticket into the white house-- as it will be an unstoppable ticket)
/

First of all, she's probably not going to be in a position to offer this to Obama.

But second, who says it would be an "unstoppable" ticket?

Clinton is still carrying around a lot of baggage, and as the head of the ticket, the attention would still be focused on her, not Obama.


Chris Rock says that is is very dangerous to pick a black Vice Presidential running mate.

"Every black man in America will want to assassinate the president.
So what, so they throw him in jail for life where he will be treated like a hero by the brothers"

567 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:20:04pm

Civil Fights: The canard of 'disproportionate force'

Hamas needs civilian casualties to fuel Palestinian and international anger at Israel. So rather than barring civilians from its launch zones, it welcomes them. And if they do not volunteer for the victim's role, it co-opts them - as happened last weekend: "Palestinian gunmen took up positions in homes while the civilians were still inside," Haaretz reported.

Firing back at people who are shooting at you is also clearly legitimate military activity; no law of war obligates soldiers to let themselves be mown down without a fight just because there are civilians nearby. Moreover, soldiers have no way of knowing whether the civilians have fled or are still inside a house; all they can be certain of is the presence of gunmen.

Under such circumstances, civilian casualties are inevitable. But those casualties are not caused by "disproportionate force" or insufficient "caution"; they are the direct result of Hamas's decision to use civilian homes, with the people still inside, as bases for targeting Israeli soldiers.

Moreover, civilians are not always innocent. Those whose homes were invaded by Hamas were presumably unwilling hostages. But some Palestinians voluntarily serve as "human shields" for terrorists - and by actively aiding and abetting terror, they turn themselves into combatants.

568 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:20:35pm

re: #560 Occasional Reader

re: #553 Green Helmet Guy


I am sure mrs. Obama means America should look to role models like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Paleostinians, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Algeria, Egypt, Syria, China, Rwanda, HAMAS, Hezbollah, Osama...

Hey, that's what she learned at the Third World Club; that all these countries are better than we are. And, hellooo, the Third World Club was at PRINCETON, so they're like really smart n' stuff. (Right, Bob Munck?)

Yo, if dey all so smart & like dat dere, hows come dey didn go to youse no , like Harvard?

569 Sunlight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:20:35pm

re: #545 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #519 Ward Cleaver

re: #513 mattm

re: #501 Sunlight

re: #385 Ben Hur

House of Representatives condemns rocket attacks on Israel


Roll call

Lookie who voted Nay, Ron Paul. Hmm.

Jew-hatin' scum.

Suck on that, Paulians.

Can't this guy be made to lose come November. What's that black lib antisemites name from the south who was targeted for defeat?

I'm going to send a TYVM to our delegation who voted yes. The silence of EVERYONE else on this is wild, except maybe Secy Rice telling the Israelis to pipe down.

570 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:20:42pm

re: #502 MrMom

Unless we are watching Duel!

571 MrMom  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:20:44pm

re: #555 loppyd

You're a good woman loppyd...
OUT.

572 loppyd  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:21:09pm

Time to head out and drop half of my paycheck at Whole Foods.

Must ask for extra bags so it looks like I bought more.

BWAAHAHAHA

See you meanies later.

573 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:21:47pm
re: #535 Bar

re: #500 Bob Munck

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

Black was implied.

I'm betting I'm not arguing with a whole lot of Princeton graduates here.

Hey, but I did just barely graduate HS, does that count?

Shit!
I dropped out of HS; guess I'll sit this one out...
// {;p™

574 formercorpsman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:22:02pm

You know, Render a couple of months ago submitted a request to management for some better trolls.

Is it too late to co-sponsor this with him?

575 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:22:03pm

re: #537 Occasional Reader

re: #529 Ben Hur

See my #510.

Thanks.

576 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:22:03pm

re: #550 Russkilitlover

Excellent!

577 nikis-knight  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:22:49pm

re: #207 nyc redneck
The reporter should have looked her in the eye and said "You can afford it, for one."

578 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #484 Occasional Reader

re: #477 alegrias


Ms. Rice lost a childhood friend in the Birmingham church bombings

Yeah, well, Michelle was once given a dirty salad fork at the Lawyer's Dining Room at Sidley & Austin. So don't try to claim that Michelle hasn't been there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

579 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:05pm
580 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:08pm

re: #546 Shug

re: #529 Ben Hur


re: #483 Nevergiveup

re: #479 Ben Hur

Patrick Swayze Diagnosed With Cancer, Five Weeks Left to Live
Terrible.
At least he'll live on in film.

Except apparently it is not true.

Link?

We'll know in 5 weeks

Am I a bad person if that made me laugh?

581 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:32pm

Good Afternoon Lizards! It's sunny and warmish in the Very Far Western Suburbs this afternoon. They changed the forcast again. They've decided it's going to snow afterall. I try not to understand what they decide.

It's such a shame that someone as intelligent and accomplished as Michelle Obama can't present herself better in a public forum. I see someone who could accomplish a lot in life.

How are you all this afternoon and what are we talking about?

582 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:36pm

re: #577 nikis-knight

re: #207 nyc redneck
The reporter should have looked her in the eye and said "You can afford it, for one."

Are you suggesting that reporters have common sense and a shred of dignity?

583 MellyMel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:23:59pm

re: #548 jcm

Ya gotta warn a person before letting them click on that! Truly painful!

584 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:24:34pm

re: #560 Occasional Reader

Clearly, Bob hasn't dealt with some of the Ivy League graduates I have. For instance, the young lady who didn't know what "third-person singular" meant. She was a Columbia grad. Her degree was in English.

585 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:25:12pm

re: #580 Ben Hur

No, I say that to alot of my patients.

586 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:25:54pm

re: #544 loppyd

re: #533 opnion

re: #527 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #503 opnion


re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint


re: #488 Bob Munck


re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.


So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.


Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.


With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.


but we ain't not Princeton graduates. right?

no, I are not. Is youse?

Did you get stuck n Irak?

I did stay at a Holiday Inn a few times ...

587 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:06pm

re: #584 Dianna

re: #560 Occasional Reader

Clearly, Bob hasn't dealt with some of the Ivy League graduates I have. For instance, the young lady who didn't know what "third-person singular" meant. She was a Columbia grad. Her degree was in English.

So true. The reputations far exceed the quality of education.

588 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:14pm

re: #574 formercorpsman

Charles did have a high number of open registrations a couple of weeks ago. Management can only do so much.

589 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:16pm
590 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:30pm

re: #584 Dianna

the young lady who didn't know what "third-person singular" meant

Isn't that one of those cellphone "favorites" calling plans?

(Now known as third person AT&T)

591 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:30pm

re: #579 buzzsawmonkey

re: #572 loppyd

Time to head out and drop half of my paycheck at Whole Foods.

Or, you could drop the whole of your paycheck at Half Foods. More for your money.

To be honest - whole foods is probably one of the most expensive of all. If money is tight I don't recommend it.

592 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:36pm

re: #581 ggt

But, but, global warming is REAL!

You know that in 10 years this and that is going to happen, never mind they cant tell you what is going to happen tomorrow, you just have to believe.

593 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:47pm
594 Pope Insouciance IV  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:26:59pm

Hillary goes to the convention with fewer delegates and less popular support, but is able to finagle the nomination from the superdelegates.
Then she graciously offers Obama the second spot.
Yeah, everyone will be fine with that.

/s

595 WOHBuckeye  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:27:10pm

re: #516 looking closely

re: #229 ploome hineni

re: #196 looking closely

She's not a child, she's not stupid, and she's also not new to being the wife of a politician. Its kind of odd that she hasn't learned already, but I would expect a major smackdown by her handlers promptly.

she is surrounded by, and appealing to the hate America first crowd

I am sure she would never understand why we are critical of her


I think she would understand quite well. Again, she's not stupid. She just disagrees. From the article:



It’s not that [Michelle] Obama doesn’t know the anodyne, wifely things to say (essentially, nothing). She is, after all, a “community and external affairs” professional. But her pride visibly chafes at being asked to subsume her personality, to make herself seem duller and less independent than she is, even in the service of getting her husband elected President of the United States. In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”


Also, reading the above articles, it appears that the Obama campaign *DID* try to get her to be more positive in her speech, but she refused.

Ultimately, I think this whole thing will be a non-issue should her husband get the Dem nomination, because she probably won't be making her "stump" speech anymore after that, and she really will be shuffled off to the side.

Ultimately, no matter how much she hates (or loves) America, she's not the one running for office.

I'm sure she thinks of herself as a "campaign asset" and will want to be front and center. She isn't going away anytime soon.

This seems typical of liberal men running for office - a bossy woman behind them who can't seem to shut the hell up.

596 justadot  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:27:25pm

re: #440 loppyd

H. Res. 951: Condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, and for... (Vote On Passage)

Nay TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]

And the weasels are:

Present HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]

Present MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]

Present WA-7 McDermott, James [D]

loppyd, you left out one weasel — James Moran of Virginia:

Present VA-8 Moran, James [D]

597 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:27:47pm

re: #586 Bobibutu

re: #544 loppyd


re: #533 opnion

re: #527 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #503 opnion

re: #496 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #488 Bob Munck

re: #471 Nevergiveup

Learn to write, you wrote 13% of appointees were BLACK.

So what? That doesn't imply that he or anyone else in my list is necessarily black. The text I was replying to said "minorities." Blacks are minorities; therefore at least 13% of his appointees were minorities.

Jeez! sounds like an argument with a moonbat.
Black was implied.

With the construction of the paragraph, I thought so too.

but we ain't not Princeton graduates. right?

no, I are not. Is youse?

Did you get stuck n Irak?

I did stay at a Holiday Inn a few times ...


Hey, yo youse guys is such jokers.
Hey I got it lets all go to Princeton. Road Trip!

598 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:28:08pm

re: #583 MellyMel

re: #548 jcm

Ya gotta warn a person before letting them click on that! Truly painful!

What? "Seriously Creepy" and "Obama" in the same comment wasn't warning enough? ;-)

599 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:28:41pm

re: #587 David Simon

It does worry me.

Of course, I'm in nonprofit world, where the purity of one's intentions make up for a complete lack of competence in carrying said intentions out.

600 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:28:52pm

re: #592 Bar

re: #581 ggt

But, but, global warming is REAL!

You know that in 10 years this and that is going to happen, never mind they cant tell you what is going to happen tomorrow, you just have to believe.

right, man, don't stop thinkin about tomorrow.

601 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:21pm

re: #593 buzzsawmonkey

to participate in a menage a trois

A message to Counsellor Troi? What does she have to do with this?

602 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:35pm

re: #594 Pope Insouciance IV

Hillary goes to the convention with fewer delegates and less popular support, but is able to finagle the nomination from the superdelegates.
Then she graciously offers Obama the second spot.
Yeah, everyone will be fine with that.

/s

What will the fallout be if Obama's denied any position on the ticket? Will we have race baiters like Jesse Jackson organizing protests?

603 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:36pm

re: #592 Bar


I know, I know. I have to get better at towing the party line.

/

604 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:41pm

re: #590 Occasional Reader

Well, she sure wasn't a Razr.

605 scaramouche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:44pm

This month's Vanity Fair quotes--admiringly--a piece of poetry written by BHO during his sensitive youth:

I saw an old, forgotten man
On an old forgotten road.
Staggering and numb under the glare of the
Spotlight. He eyes so dull and grey,
Slide from right to left, to right,
Looking for his life, misplaced in a
Shallow, muddly gutter long ago.
I am found, instead.
Seeking a hiding place, the night seals
us together.
A transient spark lights his face,
and in my honor,
He pulls out forgotten dignity from
under his flaking coat.
And walks a straight line along the
crooked world.

Oooo. I'm staggering and numb just reading such profundity.

606 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:29:57pm

re: #594 Pope Insouciance IV

Hillary goes to the convention with fewer delegates and less popular support, but is able to finagle the nomination from the superdelegates.
Then she graciously offers Obama the second spot.
Yeah, everyone will be fine with that.

/s

That's not my understanding from reading Hillary's quotes this morning. It sounded to me like Hillary was fully prepared to second chair. I wouldn't believe it, but, that's how it sounded.

607 David Simon  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:30:12pm

I wonder if Neil Abercrombie has ever been to a barber.

608 MellyMel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:30:13pm

re: #598 jcm


LOL! Good point!

609 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:30:37pm
610 Daisy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:30:40pm

Good grief, but she's even worse than Teresa Heinze Kerry.

611 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:30:41pm

re: #593 buzzsawmonkey

So that's what it means in the lonely hearts ads!

612 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:31:10pm

re: #605 scaramouche

I'm surprised you didn't faint. OOOPs, I'll go get a stretcher and oxygen...

613 arcatan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:31:43pm

I'm guessing nice would be letting the Obamas tell us what to think and what to do.

614 opnion  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:32:07pm

Well, Lizards gotta go.
If I had gone to Princeton, I would have said, "The press of business has forced me to cease this meaningful and delightful discourse, Ta"

615 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:33:40pm

re: #609 buzzsawmonkey

re: #548 jcm


Seriously creepy.

We Are The Ones Song by will.i.am - Obama


It's a virtual Nuremberg rally.

Jessica Alba... say it ain't so...

616 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:33:46pm
617 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:35:20pm

re: #609 buzzsawmonkey

re: #548 jcm

Seriously creepy.

We Are The Ones Song by will.i.am - Obama

It's a virtual Nuremberg rally.

Nuremberg, zombies, kool-aid, all come to mind with that.

618 Darwin Akbar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:35:23pm

As noted above, keep talking, Michelle.

This is proof-positive about just how miserable liberals are...they live in an "if only..." world of anger and self pity.
"If only Bush were impeached..."
"If only the rich paid more taxes..."
"If only Israel wasn't so selfish..."
"If only Rush Limbaugh would die..."
...how much better off my life would be!

It also reminds me of that 60 Minutes show of a few weeks ago, which celebrated Denmark and its people as "so much happier than those living on Manhattan's Upper West Side." It never occurred to them to compare liberal New Yorkers with real Americans - they'd discover that most Americans are content and optimistic about their lives, especially those who are not liberals.

Michelle O also needs to read "Who Really Cares? The Truth About Compassionate Conservatism," which was written by a Democrat academic from Syracuse University. His research confirms that conservatives and religious people are far more generous with money, time and even blood, than liberals (and Europeans, too). Liberals just want the government to take more of your money and use it in ways they approve of in order to assuage their own guilt about how greedy and selfish they really are.

619 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:35:39pm

re: #599 Dianna

What kind of NGO grants do you handle?

620 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:35:48pm

I think [Link: www.thereligionofpeace.com...] is down.

621 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:36:34pm

I'm trying to remember how Bill Clinton dealt with growing up with his biological father as a campaign issue. I remember his mom being interviewed and that's about it.

In trying to compare the Clinton and Obama on the fatherlessness issue -- I think Obama is just a bit too touchy feely for me. Fatherlessness is a valid Afrikan-American (not just Afrikan-American) male issue, but Obama didn't grow-up in the sterotypical single-mother on welfare household. He grew-up in a situation much better than Clinton's. I guess it was just much worse because his skin was darker.

///

622 scaramouche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:37:07pm

#612 SpartanWoman

Actually, I did require some strong smelling salts.

623 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:37:42pm

re: #572 loppyd

Time to head out and drop half of my paycheck at Whole Foods.

Must ask for extra bags so it looks like I bought more.

BWAAHAHAHA

See you meanies later.


make sure you ask for plastic

624 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:38:08pm

re: #621 ggt

Bill Clinton growing-up with OUT his father

pimf

625 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:38:10pm

re: #617 jcm

re: #609 buzzsawmonkey


re: #548 jcm

Seriously creepy.

We Are The Ones Song by will.i.am - Obama


It's a virtual Nuremberg rally.

Nuremberg, zombies, kool-aid, all come to mind with that.

And, at the same time, it's entirely content-free.

I like the one chick who says "Obama won't just be a President for Black America". Why does that even need to be said?

And of course he'll end all war, and there will be only peace, and everyone will like us. And Obama believes in us... which is why he believes that most adult decision-making authority should be removed from us, and vested in the government. Meaning, him.

626 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:38:32pm

re: #597 opnion

Sounds like a fun but possibly dangerous idea. Being on the edge of the left coast I guess I'd have to be the one to start the driving and pick everyone else on the way.

627 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:39:21pm

re: #625 Occasional Reader

re: #617 jcm

re: #609 buzzsawmonkey


re: #548 jcm


Seriously creepy.We Are The Ones Song by will.i.am - Obama


It's a virtual Nuremberg rally.


Nuremberg, zombies, kool-aid, all come to mind with that.

And, at the same time, it's entirely content-free.

I like the one chick who says "Obama won't just be a President for Black America". Why does that even need to be said?

And of course he'll end all war, and there will be only peace, and everyone will like us. And Obama believes in us... which is why he believes that most adult decision-making authority should be removed from us, and vested in the government. Meaning, him.

The Soviets coined a term during Stalin...
Cult of Personality.

628 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:39:34pm

re: #616 buzzsawmonkey

I have to wonder how good a lawyer Michelle Obama is/was--fancy law school and firm notwithstanding--if she doesn't know how to control her tongue in public.

She's in control stating her beliefs. No one dares to step in to curtail her speaking her truths.

629 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:41:02pm

re: #580 Ben Hur

Am I a bad person if that made me laugh?

I watched my Dad zt'l die of Ca of the pancreas almost 25 years ago, on the 15th of March, 1983 (and my Mum zt'l died of a massive coronary 15 days later)...sorry, there is nothing laughable that I can see.

It is brutal to watch, and being an RN did not even start to prepare me for what I saw my Dad go through. He weighed less than 90 lbs. when he died a terrible death. I had to convince my Mum to sign a DNR, as she could not bear losing him.

So try to think what that looks like to anyone who has seen a family member or friend go through it.

May Patick Swayze have a peaceful ending.

BBL...your post sucks.

630 blue_like_jazz  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:42:34pm


compare and contrast...

//RIP, Ronnie

631 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:42:40pm

re: #619 rappmandu

We don't. We're a private foundation restricted to California and Hawaii. Mostly, we fund schools and hospitals, some community projects and the occasional museum.

632 ggt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:42:46pm

What time is it?

Why it's Laundry Time.

Check-in wit' you-all later.

633 SpartanWoman  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:44:18pm

re: #630 blue_like_jazz

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


compare and contrast...

//RIP, Ronnie


I will always miss him.

634 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:44:54pm
635 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:44:54pm

re: #629 NY Nana

re: #580 Ben Hur


Am I a bad person if that made me laugh?

I watched my Dad zt'l die of Ca of the pancreas almost 25 years ago, on the 15th of March, 1983 (and my Mum zt'l died of a massive coronary 15 days later)...sorry, there is nothing laughable that I can see.

It is brutal to watch, and being an RN did not even start to prepare me for what I saw my Dad go through. He weighed less than 90 lbs. when he died a terrible death. I had to convince my Mum to sign a DNR, as she could not bear losing him.

So try to think what that looks like to anyone who has seen a family member or friend go through it.

May Patick Swayze have a peaceful ending.

BBL...your post sucks.


I understand.

But I wasn't laughing at the cancer (my bro and sis in law both had- grandma doesn't count, cause you know,)

It wasn't my intention to make it seem that I was laughing at his situation.

Scroll up. I posted it because I find it tragic.

The "we'll know in 5 years" struck me as dark, morbid humor.

Sorry again.

636 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:45:24pm

re: #224 alegrias

re: #202 bulwrk

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.
* * *
Remember reading how East Germany and other communist worker paradises didn't have bananas? Soviets stood in lines for bread that often ran out? Their communist government stores carried crummy merchandise and little that people really wanted?

Cubans today cannot shop except in government stores, using one currency that is nearly worthless, to buy rationed stuff.

Venezuelans in communist/socialist Chavez country, can't get any milk!

Is THIS what you aspire to make America?

I remember walking into a magazine (=store) that only sold these items:

beer-1 kind-no label, 1 liter, 12%
a generic bar soap
a generic powder soap
fresh? beef cubes
canned tomatoes
potatoes
carrots
cheese-yellow or white
salami
bread-fresh and 3 day old and a week or more old (=rock hard)
perhaps two or three other things.
50% of the shelf space was empty.
Yea communism! It's fantastic!

637 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:45:42pm

I never thought I'd be saying this ever, but the more Mrs. BHO opens her mouth, I become even more saisfied that Hillary won.

/Help me! I'm feeling so confused...

638 TMF  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:46:02pm

"Show me someone whose life has gotten easier..."

"Things have gotten progressively worse..."

Are there people dumb enough to buy this poison?

Wait, dont answer that...

639 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:46:52pm

re: #636 David IV of Georgia

Where was this? (Then-Soviet Rep. of Georgia, from your name?)

640 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:47:03pm
641 ec marm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:47:48pm

I for one, feel the need to hear more, a lot more, from Michelle. She may be the secret weapon that will propel JMc to a 50 state electoral victory.

642 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:47:58pm

re: #631 Dianna

Neat.

643 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:48:57pm

re: #603 ggt

re: #592 Bar


I know, I know. I have to get better at towing the party line.

/

Toe the part line.

644 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:49:17pm

re: #640 Iron Fist

O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma.


Now what would be TRULY terrifying would be to do an audio-visual presentation that times this chant to the pulsations of Throbbing Obama.

645 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:49:19pm
646 blue_like_jazz  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:49:27pm

re: #633 SpartanWoman


the HOPE, the ENCOURAGEMENT, his BELIEF IN AMERICANS as decent, good, generous people led us to live up to his expectations.

michelle obama's negativity encourages the mindset that we all SUCK and need the gov't to take care of us and tell us how to be.

it is thoroughly ANTI-AMERICAN!

i guess that "audacity of hope" applies only to her hubby... the rest of us are slothful idiots.

// my anger knows no bounds

647 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:49:30pm

i'm going to run around the corner and get" the new yorker" and a cup of coffee. (and a cookie. i can't afford fruit. who can?)

648 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:49:32pm

re: #642 rappmandu

It's a good place, and a good place to work.

I could never be on the fundraising side - it's got to be hard to keep hearing "no."

649 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:50:03pm
650 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:50:49pm

re: #647 nyc redneck

That's gonna leave a mark!

Well done.

651 Ben Hur  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:50:56pm

BBL

Cicci!

A porte!

652 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:50:59pm
653 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:51:33pm
654 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:51:38pm

re: #649 buzzsawmonkey

re: #644 Occasional Reader


re: #640 Iron Fist

O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma.

Now what would be TRULY terrifying would be to do an audio-visual presentation that times this chant to the pulsations of Throbbing Obama.

Throw in a little "Zardoz! Zardoz! Zardoz!" for the full effect.

If he'd only spit guns out of his mouth, who know, he might actually pick up an NRA endorsement.

655 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:52:17pm

re: #634 buzzsawmonkey

re: #617 jcm

re: #625 Occasional Reader

Are these videos being put out by the official Barack Redacted Obama campaign?

If so, why do they not carry the "I am Barack Redacted Obama, and I approved this message" or "Paid for by the Citizens to Elect Barack Redacted Obama" stamps?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

656 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:52:23pm

re: #630 blue_like_jazz

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


compare and contrast...

//RIP, Ronnie

Change... Reagan style...
But change would not mean rejection of the past. Like a tree growing strong through the seasons, rooted in the Earth and drawing life from the Sun, so, too, positive change must be rooted in traditional values -- in the land, in culture, in family and community -- and it must take its life from the eternal things, from the source of all life, which is faith. Such change will lead to new understandings, new opportunities, to a broader future in which the tradition is not supplanted but finds its full flowering. That is the future beckoning to your generation.

657 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:52:42pm
658 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:53:30pm
659 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:53:40pm

I thought Teeraza Heinz was a loon, looks like we haven't seen anything yet. Sheesh.

660 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:53:58pm

re: #657 buzzsawmonkey

re: #654 Occasional Reader


If he'd only spit guns out of his mouth, who know, he might actually pick up an NRA endorsement.

He does spit guns out of his mouth; into the hands of America's enemiesmisunderstood friends.

O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA!

661 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:54:03pm

Don't be too hard on Mrs. Obama. She's got it hard with that 1,000-bottle whine cellar.

662 Dianna  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:54:19pm

I'm out.

Take care, lizards.

663 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:54:19pm

re: #580 Ben Hur

No, you aren't a bad person.

664 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:05pm

re: #636 David IV of Georgia

re: #224 alegrias


re: #202 bulwrk
re: #181 Occasional Reader

Michelle on feeding her children:

But you have to go to the fruit stand a couple of times a week to keep that fruit fresh enough that a six-year-old—she’s not gonna eat the pruney grape, you know. At that point it’s, like, ‘Eww!’ She’s not gonna eat the brown banana or the shrivelledy-up things. It’s got to be fresh for them to want it. Who’s got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?”

Yeah, I guess the Obamas are really scraping by, aren't they?

The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.
* * *
Remember reading how East Germany and other communist worker paradises didn't have bananas? Soviets stood in lines for bread that often ran out? Their communist government stores carried crummy merchandise and little that people really wanted?
Cubans today cannot shop except in government stores, using one currency that is nearly worthless, to buy rationed stuff.

Venezuelans in communist/socialist Chavez country, can't get any milk!

Is THIS what you aspire to make America?


I remember walking into a magazine (=store) that only sold these items:

beer-1 kind-no label, 1 liter, 12%
a generic bar soap
a generic powder soap
fresh? beef cubes
canned tomatoes
potatoes
carrots
cheese-yellow or white
salami
bread-fresh and 3 day old and a week or more old (=rock hard)
perhaps two or three other things.
50% of the shelf space was empty.
Yea communism! It's fantastic!

Take the beef, tomatoes, potatoes, carrots and put into a large pot, cover with water, boil for about 3 hours. When the mixture as reduced down into almost a stew, put the mixture into a pryex deep-dish, cover with cheese and broil at 425 for about 10 minutes. Serve with beer and a slice of bread. Repeat the same recipe with salami tomorrow night.

/s

Walter in Golden, Co.

665 blue_like_jazz  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:09pm

re: #656 jcm


for real, people... the contrast is amazing.

hope and purpose and faith

vs.

negativity and disparagement and despair


GOOD

VS.

EVIL

666 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:09pm

re: #661 rappmandu

Don't be too hard on Mrs. Obama. She's got it hard with that 1,000-bottle whine cellar.

well all 1000 bottles are gallo

667 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:35pm
668 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:49pm

re: #639 Occasional Reader

re: #636 David IV of Georgia

Where was this? (Then-Soviet Rep. of Georgia, from your name?)

Sofia, Bulgaria, 1991.

669 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:55:50pm

re: #666 Shug

Franzia

670 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:56:23pm
671 BBev  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:57:04pm

re: #640 Iron Fist

re: #609 buzzsawmonkey,

Obama has his very own Leni Reifenstal. The Cult of Obama has really gotten to scary perportions. Any leader who cultivates a cult of personality is frightening, but that seems to be all the Obama campaign has.

O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma.

Seig! Heil! Seig! Heil! Seig! Heil!

Scary, scary. I can hardly wait for the Convention.

After seeing the Cult in action here in Manchester, New Hampshire and the "O-O- Obama go go go Obama" thing It made me vote for Hillary. It was unnerving.

672 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:57:21pm
673 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:57:33pm
674 Promethea  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:57:41pm

re: #106 WriterMom

re: #96 godfrey

Who cares? It just gave me a great idea for my graduate studies.

"White Jewish Suburban Moms With Right Wing Views And Their Attempts to Spread the Word Among Dhimmified Jews: An Academic Case Study"

No joke. I've been wanting someone to study this situation for years. If I were in college, I probably *would* write a paper about dhimmified Jews.

675 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:57:54pm

re: #670 song_and_dance_man

re: #666 Shug


re: #661 rappmandu

Don't be too hard on Mrs. Obama. She's got it hard with that 1,000-bottle whine cellar.

well all 1000 bottles are gallo

The dreaded 666 post.


I was hoping for post 667, the number of the neighbor of the beast.

Walter in Golden, Co.

676 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:58:32pm

re: #666 Shug

Pleased to mechoo!

/

677 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:58:43pm

re: #668 David IV of Georgia

re: #639 Occasional Reader


re: #636 David IV of Georgia

Where was this? (Then-Soviet Rep. of Georgia, from your name?)


Sofia, Bulgaria, 1991.

Bulgaria... well, at least you were surrounded by beautiful women. (Based on my admittedly limited experience with Bulgarian women.)

678 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:58:46pm
679 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:58:51pm
680 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 2:59:04pm

re: #648 Dianna

re: #642 rappmandu

It's a good place, and a good place to work.

I could never be on the fundraising side - it's got to be hard to keep hearing "no."

Dianna - there is something new that is turning past noes to yes in this area.

I would be happy to share it with your fundraisers.

681 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:00:16pm

re: #680 Bobibutu

there is something new that is turning past noes to yes in this area.

Obama?

Hope?

Change?

682 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:00:33pm

re: #663 Shug

re: #580 Ben Hur

No, you aren't a bad person.

I lost my dad who was also my employer just 18 months ago to kidney cancer, yeah it was really hard to watch your hero shrivel up and die, but its not like you can do anything about it.

I still thought it was funny.

683 ec marm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:01:03pm
684 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:01:20pm
685 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:02:33pm
Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

I would hardly call this cynical, slothful, nor complacent. In fact, I would say it is evidence to the contrary.

When I look at these results, I have to ask: Just what country have you been living in all these years, Michelle?

686 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:02:45pm

re: #670 song_and_dance_man

re: #666 Shug


re: #661 rappmandu

Don't be too hard on Mrs. Obama. She's got it hard with that 1,000-bottle whine cellar.

well all 1000 bottles are gallo

The dreaded 666 post.


Franzia is the drink of Stan

687 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:03:16pm
688 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:03:21pm

re: #681 Occasional Reader

re: #680 Bobibutu

there is something new that is turning past noes to yes in this area.

Obama?

Hope?

Change?

A new technique in the financial services community specifically structured for charitable giving.

689 jcm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:03:21pm

Reagan's City Upon a Hill

Speech.Now we are a nation of 211 million people with a pedigree that includes blood lines from every corner of the world. We have shed that American-melting-pot blood in every corner of the world, usually in defense of someone's freedom. Those who remained of that remarkable band we call our Founding Fathers tied up some of the loose ends about a dozen years after the Revolution. It had been the first revolution in all man’s history that did not just exchange one set of rulers for another. This had been a philosophical revolution. The culmination of men's dreams for 6,000 years were formalized with the Constitution, probably the most unique document ever drawn in the long history of man's relation to man. I know there have been other constitutions, new ones are being drawn today by newly emerging nations. Most of them, even the one of the Soviet Union, contains many of the same guarantees as our own Constitution, and still there is a difference. The difference is so subtle that we often overlook it, but is is so great that it tells the whole story. Those other constitutions say, “Government grants you these rights” and ours says, “You are born with these rights, they are yours by the grace of God, and no government on earth can take them from you.”

[snip]

We cannot escape our destiny, nor should we try to do so. The leadership of the free world was thrust upon us two centuries ago in that little hall of Philadelphia. In the days following World War II, when the economic strength and power of America was all that stood between the world and the return to the dark ages, Pope Pius XII said, “The American people have a great genius for splendid and unselfish actions. Into the hands of America God has placed the destinies of an afflicted mankind.”

We are indeed, and we are today, the last best hope of man on earth.

690 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:03:28pm

re: #678 song_and_dance_man

re: #675 Walter L. Newton

Or even 665 the number of his nurturing.


?

Walter in Golden, Co.

691 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:04:08pm

re: #682 Bar


I've watched many friends and loved ones waste away with Cancer.
All they had left in the end was their sense of humor. ( well most of them )

692 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:04:35pm
693 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:06:22pm
694 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:06:26pm

re: #689 jcm

Brings tears to my eyes.

695 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:06:27pm

re: #692 song_and_dance_man

665, The Neighbor of the Beast.
/

696 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:06:41pm

re: #635 Ben Hur


Sorry again.

It is a very difficult subject for me to deal with...as there is a family history of Ca of the pancreas...and my youngest son was barely 10, and has a faint memory of his grandparents.

And this time of the year brings back so many memories...he was diagnosed in December and dead in March...

Sorry that I went after you like that, but I had read about Patrick Swazey in the spinoffs, and felt like kicking the desk..he is only 55.

And your family, sadly, knows what it is like.

I see, with perfect hindsight, what you meant. I am sorry.

697 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:08:03pm
698 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:08:08pm

re: #692 song_and_dance_man

re: #690 Walter L. Newton

We'll no one expects him to be born ready to go, so 665 is his early years.

Got it now!

Walter in Golden, Co.

699 Ma Sands  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:09:29pm

Change!

(3rd time...but, three's the charm, I've heard...includes hopeful thought processes... :)

700 ec marm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #687 song_and_dance_man

re: #683 ec marm

Change, you can believe in it.

Wow... look at that dark horse he's riding. Did you enhance that?


Yup, also darkened the empty holsters on his belt, too. I'll be damned if I'm going to polish the brass on the Titanic while it goes down.

701 Cognito  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:10:21pm

Good on the NYer.

;)

702 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:12:38pm
703 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:13:27pm

Anyone else think it's funny that Mrs. Obama's in her mid-40s and calls herself and Barack "a young couple?" When you're a couple in your teens and 20s...definitely. 30s...okay, sure, why not.

But 40s? Get real.

704 Bobibutu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:14:31pm

re: #703 rappmandu

Anyone else think it's funny that Mrs. Obama's in her mid-40s and calls herself and Barack "a young couple?" When you're a couple in your teens and 20s...definitely. 30s...okay, sure, why not.

But 40s? Get real.

Hey! Age is just a state of mind. Now someone convince my body of it.

705 Shug  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:14:52pm

re: #703 rappmandu

Anyone else think it's funny that Mrs. Obama's in her mid-40s and calls herself and Barack "a young couple?" When you're a couple in your teens and 20s...definitely. 30s...okay, sure, why not.

But 40s? Get real.


Being a democrat means never having to grow up

706 ec marm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:15:05pm

re: #701 Cognito

Good on the NYer.

;)


Oh, yeah? There you go again, Cognito!

Oops, what a minute, reflex action.
Nevermind.

707 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:15:20pm

re: #703 rappmandu

Now see thats just mean.

;-)

708 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:15:46pm
709 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:16:08pm
710 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:16:17pm

Invade Barack's Trust Fund for Change!

711 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:16:46pm

re: #591 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #579 buzzsawmonkey

re: #572 loppyd

Time to head out and drop half of my paycheck at Whole Foods.

Or, you could drop the whole of your paycheck at Half Foods. More for your money.

To be honest - whole foods is probably one of the most expensive of all. If money is tight I don't recommend it.

And the company is owned by friends of bill and HIll - shop at your local farmers market instead

712 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:16:53pm

re: #685 Slumbering Behemoth

Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

I would hardly call this cynical, slothful, nor complacent. In fact, I would say it is evidence to the contrary.

When I look at these results, I have to ask: Just what country have you been living in all these years, Michelle?

You're just trying to muddy the water with facts. Michelle probably was having a bad day, after all, with 1000 bottle wine cellar I'd probably have a few off days too.

713 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:16:54pm

re: #705 Shug

That should be a bumper sticker! And the democrats would think it was a compliment also? "Being a democrat means never having to grow up"

714 freetoken  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:17:10pm

From the article:

She talked about her first trip to Africa—Barack took her to Kenya to meet his father’s family—and the realization that, as much as white society fails to account for the African-American experience, so does any conception of pan-blackness. “There’s also the view among many black Americans that Africa is home,” she said. “But when you’re a black American you’re very much an American first.”

An interesting observation, no?

715 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:17:45pm

Doggone it! Y'all stop jammin' me up, or I'll go Three-toed Sloth on your asses!

716 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:18:48pm

re: #703 rappmandu

Hey now, I'm just a few short years from being 40 myself, and one sock-puppet away from being a "couple". I'd like to think of myself as still being "young". You just ruined my day with your slothful, cynical complacency you meanie!

/:sniff sniff:

717 Geepers  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:20:29pm

Hey! All you meanies, fearfuls, cynics, sloths, and complacents; vote for my husband. He wants to be president of all you pathetic crapbags.

718 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:21:31pm

re: #712 Code Red 21

im in ur watrs, mudyin em wit faks

/

719 Daisy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:22:44pm

"First Ladies have traditionally gravitated toward happy topics like roadside flower beds, so it comes as a surprise that Obama’s speech is such an unrelenting downer."

A gravitational pull for which I personally will be forever grateful. Lady Byrd Johnson actually managed to do something useful as a First Lady w/her beautify America project / planting/preserving wildflowers all along America's highways.

And to Jackie Kennedy, whom I think of with gratitude every time I enter Grand Central Station.

Unlike Hillary, who accomplished absolutely nothing during her time as First Lady. Hell, she isn't even a lady and neither is this Michelle creature.

At least Laura Bush has the grace to keep quiet ( when she's not talking about teaching kids to read library books ) and let her husband do his work. Modesty can be a real accomplishment.

Michelle and Bill ought to shut up and take notes.

720 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:22:59pm

Corporate America puts food on my table - government taxes take it away.

Corporate America allows me to surf the internet - government is trying to tax my internet spending.

Corporate America pays me money so I can pay private tuition to the school of my choice. Government mis-educates my children.

721 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:26:46pm

re: #716 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #703 rappmandu

Hey now, I'm just a few short years from being 40 myself, and one sock-puppet away from being a "couple". I'd like to think of myself as still being "young". You just ruined my day with your slothful, cynical complacency you meanie!

/:sniff sniff:

Well, I am 40 and have been married to the same women for 16 years, we are anything but a young couple, more like ma and pa kettle.

But then, I am just a mean cynical sloth of an American.

722 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:29:06pm

re: #721 Bar

Well, at least you're not complacent.

723 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:29:46pm

Doctors Optimistic About 'Dirty Dancing' Star's Health

"Dirty Dancing" star Patrick Swayze has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but contrary to published reports, his publicist told ABCNEWS.com Wednesday that he is not expected to die from the disease within weeks.

"Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far," Swayze's physician, Dr. George Fisher said in a statement released by the actor's publicist. "All of the reports stating the time frame of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue. We are considerably more optimistic."

"Patrick is continuing his normal schedule during this time, which includes working on upcoming projects," Fisher continued. "The outpouring of support and concern he has already received from the public is deeply appreciated by Patrick and his family."

Early Wednesday, the National Enquirer reported that Swayze had "five weeks to live" and his cancer had "spread to other organs."

Pancreatic cancer has the highest fatality rate of all cancers, according to the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network. The average life expectancy after diagnosis is between three and six months and only 5 percent of those diagnosed live beyond five years.
Swayze, 55, is best known for his role as dance instructor Johnny Castle in the 1987 movie musical "Dirty Dancing." He earned a Golden Globe nomination for that role and went on to co-star with Demi Moore in 1990's "Ghost," which scored an Oscar nomination for best picture.

He reprised his "Dirty Dancing" claim to fame in 2004 with "Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights." He's set to appear next in the film "Powder Blue" with Jessica Biel, Ray Liotta and Forest Whitaker.

724 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:31:36pm

re: #696 NY Nana

Sorry for your loss, humor especially when it comes to death is a finical thing, some of the most un-tactful humor I found funny when my dad died and somewhat still do. But then more than one person has mentioned my lack of tact, so it could just be me.

725 Render  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:31:58pm

Well, it didn't take too long to figure out what retired Air Force Gen. Merrill McPeak's problem is.

It can be boiled down to just three words.

Fighter Pilot Mafia (FPM).

Obama wants to cut all funding for new weapons projects, presumably this would include all armed UAV projects. The old guard FPM hates the UAV's, armed or otherwise. McPeak was second generation FPM.

By all accounts McPeak was a very good fighter pilot, who was promoted way beyond his level of competence, which was demonstrated all too well by those third-world junta style uniforms he designed at the end of his Air Force career.

This is what the FPM was all about, promoting fighter pilots at the expense of all other Air Force personnel.

BARKING
UP
TREES,
R

726 Attaboid  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:34:35pm

re: #643 debutaunt

re: #603 ggt

re: #592 Bar


I know, I know. I have to get better at towing the party line.

/

Toe the part line.

Et Tu Brutaunt?

727 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:34:53pm

re: #719 Daisy

Michelle and Bill ought to shut up and take notes.

Great post!

/As much as I dislike Michelle Obama, I would not advise that any straight female be left alone with Bubba, anywhere at any time.

728 Bar  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:37:09pm

re: #722 Slumbering Behemoth
Thanks for reminding me, I was thinking, if I'm not complacent, I most not really be an American, thank God I am complacent.

God bless America and WAB's...

729 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:38:23pm

...

730 squirrelguy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:39:30pm

re: #712 Code Red 21


You're just trying to muddy the water with facts. Michelle probably was having a bad day, after all, with 1000 bottle wine cellar I'd probably have a few off days too.

I'd probably have at least 500 "off" days.

731 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:42:01pm

re: #559 looking closely

re: #538 FrogMarch

If Clinton wins - she will pick Obama as her running mate-- As a peace offering to disgruntled Obama supporters. (and, as it turns out, she knows Obama is her ticket into the white house-- as it will be an unstoppable ticket)
/


First of all, she's probably not going to be in a position to offer this to Obama.

But second, who says it would be an "unstoppable" ticket?

Clinton is still carrying around a lot of baggage, and as the head of the ticket, the attention would still be focused on her, not Obama.

The political pendulum has swung in the direction of the Democrats.
Look at the record turn-out for the left. McCain isn't exciting and he's there on the heels of Bush. Even weak dems are in a position to win.
I stand by my prediction.

732 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:44:22pm

re: #726 Attaboid

re: #643 debutaunt


re: #603 ggt

re: #592 Bar


I know, I know. I have to get better at towing the party line.

/


Toe the party line. (Hit-ran)

Et Tu Brutaunt?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA

733 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:53:06pm

re: #724 Bar

Bar,

There is no single way that we deal with the dying and death of someone we love, as much as we feel we can handle it...and after losing one parent who was suffering so much, and the other, 15 days later, losing the other, living alone for the first time in over 50 years, over 200 miles away? It is not easy if prepared or if it is sudden.

A lot of my Mum's zt'l funeral and burial I do not remember clearly to this day. I was too numb.

Each of us must deal with it as best we can. There is no one way to do it.

After the initial mourning period, in Judaism, and the rest of the year, when I was in the different stages of mourning, the numbness started to wear off.

And now? There are a number of very special memories that I now can laugh about, and I laugh about some really hilarious things about my parents. I am 70, and grew up in a very different world, as a proper..very proper Bostonian.

734 jordash1212  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:54:01pm

I'm glad she's not the one running for President.

We're cynical? Well she's not exactly being an optimist. There's plenty that's going well for this country, and looking at the glass half empty isn't exactly helping.

We're complacent? You're damn right I'm happy with where I'm at. I live in a great country. Sure there's some rough spots, but this isn't a utopia we're talking about, it's called the real world.

And, of course, we're mean? Why are we mean? Are we supposed to put everyone's preferences in front of our own? I can understand that we step on other people's toes, hell, I think 75% of our international relations are improper and logically flawed, but our intentions are good, that cannot be denied.

735 Promethea  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 3:57:35pm

re: #443 tigerwoman

“See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”

Why does it always come back to give us something? Let me tell you, I own two rental houses which we rent to section 8 tenants. They get plenty!

I googled Cheney, and it doesn't seem like he had a trust fund. She's just making things up.

736 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:02:36pm

I've said it before...
Obama doesn't need Hillary as his Vice President.

Hilllary will need Obama as her VP.

737 Alas  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:15:07pm

Something tells me Michelle O. will help sink Barack Hussein O. JFK sold an optimistic worldview, while being a committed anti-communist, while O-Bambi peddles a pessimistic view of the world, while being wishy-washy, to say the least, on the great conflict of our time. So beyond "charisma" and political skills, the analogy to JFK doesn't gel. O-Bambi's "charm" may help sugarcoat his stock standard liberalism, elitism and pessimism, but his wife lays it out plain and simple without the reality distortion effect. She simply helps clarify why the O-Bambis are all about.

Hillary will continue to whittle away at Barack Hussein, while Michelle will continue to provide the unvarnished truth about what the O-Bambis believe. This'll make McCain's job a lot easier.

738 Joan Not of Arc  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:15:58pm

Wow, she's quite the philosopher.
I'm sure Obama wishes he had a mute button for her mouth. I know I do.

739 DockScience  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:17:30pm

I'd sure hate being a mirror at her house!

740 pocomoco  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:20:31pm

Especially for Michelle Obama

MEAN TO ME

Words & Music by Roy Turk & Fred E. Ahlert
Recorded by Recorded by Ruth Etting, 1929
Also recorded by Helen Morgan, 1929


Ok, EVERYBODY SING NOW!


A7sus4 DM7 B7 Em7 C#7 F#m7 Bm7 GM7
You're mean to me. Why must you be mean to me?

C Bb9 DM7 Am B7 Em7 A7sus4 A7-9 DM7 D6
Gee, honey, it seems to me you love to see me cryin'

E6 A7sus4 A7 DM7 B7 Em7
I don't know why I stay home

C#7 F#m7 Bm7 GM7
Each night, when you say you'll phone.

C Bb9 DM7 Am B7
You don't and I'm left a - lone,

Em7 A7sus4 A7-9 DM7 D6
Singin' the blues and sigh - in'

D D9 D7 GM7 G6 D D9 D7 GM7 G6
You treat me cold - ly each day in the year;

C C9 Cdim Em+7 Em6
You al - ways scold me

C C9 Cdim E6 A7 A7+5
When - ev - er some - body is near, dear.

DM7 B7 Em7 C#7 F#m7 Bm7 GM7
It must be great fun to be mean to me

C Bb9 DM7 Am B7
You shouldn't, for can't you see

Em7 A7-9 D6 Fdim Em7 A7 A7+5 D6
What you mean to me?

741 Wookieelips  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:22:04pm

Well, I think she's a downright grouchy, negative bitch.
So there.

742 DanTheAmericanMan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:25:40pm

You have got to be kidding ! this is the level of this woman's maturity. This country is mean !?!?!? OK, Michele. Take a vacation to Saudi Arabia, Iran, ... or just visit a Mosque in Londonstan. Check out what mean is. Female subservience, in place of your demonstrated bravery. I mean it takes a lot of guts to condemn the one country that allows you to freely do whatever it is you choose to do.

If you are the woman who has captured the heart of Barack Hussein Obama, then God help us if he ever gets beyond that damn Senate seat he avoids using. As President, he would be the one to order the taking down of the last flag, and turning off the last light in America. Its a tough world. And America is still the most generous nation on the planet. Not because the government pays from your taxes, but because Americans give from their pockets. That is mean and cynical ? Only to a pampered black woman who still insists on keeping a chip on her shoulder. Loose the chip, and start to enjoy life in the greatest country on earth. Its a wonderful thing. And otherwise you have wasted your life..

743 grumpy old codger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:27:49pm

re: #510 Occasional Reader
Or a publicity ploy. Would Hollywood really stoop that low?
In a heartbeat.

744 jopa416  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:27:54pm

So by saying this "we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents." Is she not being just as big of a cynic as she complains about, is her party not just as devisive as any, is her race not the race of constant comparison to everyone else. She just described herself and her entire political party to a "T".

745 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:31:51pm
746 sojerofgod  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:34:35pm

Miz Obama needs to get out more. Living your adult life in the liberal echo chamber where everyone agrees with each other about how terrible the US is leaves you quite blinkered to the realities. If we really were like the new Rome or the greeks in their heyday we would be crushing every other country that did not pay homage and tribute to us, and we would rule the world with an iron fist. This hope crap that her husband keeps spouting is just a bumper-sticker slogan.
Heh, and I should know, because I am the bumpersticker man!

Hope is not a plan

And Michelle needs to get a life.

747 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:34:36pm
748 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:36:35pm
749 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:36:37pm
we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

Spoken by the wife of the most cynical man in America, and man who during his term in the Illinois Senate's most common vote was "present," when he deigned to actually show up for roll call, that is.

750 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:38:15pm

re: #748 ploome hineni

what more does America owe her?

R*E*S*T*I*T*U*T*I*O*N

Your tax dollars and your unconditional obedience to her every whim as payment for 300 years of oppression.

You know the drill.

751 doongara  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:45:09pm

re: #94 ploome hineni

..well check out Obamas' web site

[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

click the heading "people", and see how fractured he sees America

It is so fractured that I have been left out completely. Dammit I thought I was an American. Oh well I guess I will go eat some worms!

752 6pat6  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:49:17pm

re: #725 Render

Absofuckinlutely! McPeak is a tool!

753 Dark Wing Duck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:52:30pm

Greetings,

Wonder when we'll start to hear from Michelle's coworkers or even better the people who worked under her. I bet they have some great stories.

barack hussein obama caviler decision to throw away the woman who negotiated his first overly generous book contract speaks volumes for how they treat us little people.

Shalom,
Dark Wing Duck

754 laZardo  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:53:59pm

Words that would probably only apply to my contemporaries (since I'm assuming that most Lizards here are older - and subsequently wiser than those in my age-and-income bracket.)

755 grumpy old codger  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:55:37pm

re: #733 NY Nana
Very proper Bostonian? You've told us all you lived in Brookline!
Brookline, despite a birth in Boston and all the other comments about how hard it was for you there, is not Suffolk County. A counterfeit Bostonian! In your own words, FOAD.

756 nadadhimmi  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 4:57:05pm

What a spoiled brat she is. America is mean?, that just doesn't jibe with her getting her ass kissed at Princton. The more people have their asses kissed, the more they expect them to be kissed. Get into the real fuckin' world, and make an honest living, outside of the race huckstering you claim as your birthright.

757 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:01:04pm

re: #750 Lucius Septimius

& What about the brave Union soldier boys who died to free her ass?

Do their families and descendants get nothing then?

I am so tired of this

I. Could. Spit.


& Ms. Obama quit running down my country.

758 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:02:56pm

re: #757 Ojoe

They don't count because they and their descendants have benefited from the racist structure of the state and the economy. In any event, the dead soldiers were only dupes of the big business and finance types who controlled the country.

No blood for cotton!

/moonbat off.

759 sissyblue  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:06:26pm

Ewww, what a b*tch!

760 ThingFish  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:12:52pm

Coming in late here, but someone please explain to me if we do end up with this Utopian nanny state that Mr. Obama wants to create, how will the current slothful and complacent citizens be prompted to CHANGE?

761 ContraJihadi  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:16:19pm

I didn't think anybody could pull the steak out of the vampire's heart, but Mrs. Hope and Audacity is certainly not shy of trying.

762 Carolyn  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:16:55pm

I guess we can say
the Obamanation doesn't like us.

763 Meremortal  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:17:24pm

"...we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents."

Wait just a minute. What about us Republicans? What are we, chopped liver?

764 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:18:22pm

yes, mean spirited and divided and a bunch of slothful ne'er do wells-- who manage to CONTRIBUTE more money out of their pockets, joyously, to help more people in more countries than all other nations in the world combined. Yup. Mean spiritied and slothful.

What a COW! Hey Michelle-- go live in Nigeria and find out about slothful mean spirited people.

765 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:25:20pm

re: #755 grumpy old codger

Not Brookline...born in Jamaica Plains, at the Faulkner, as that is where my Mum's GP was, and lived in Brighton, on Comm. Ave., the first 13 years of my life, and then Newton, before going into nurses training in Brooklyn.

After I was married, my Brooklyn-born husband, who I met while in training, was drafted the day after he graduated from CCNY, and stationed, after Basic, at Fort Dix, NJ, at the now-defunct Boston Army Base.

We were living on Chestnut Hill Ave. on the Brighton-Brookline border, near Cleveland Circle, moved to Waltham when he was discharged, and then we moved back to NY when first son was 2.

And the reason I lived on Comm. Ave., in Brighton, where my primary school was predominately Jewish, is because we were allowed to live there...in a Boston, and the surrounding suburbs, that restricted Jews from living anywhere they wanted. My parents were finally able to buy a home in Newton in 1951.

And by the way, welcome to my scroll-by list. FOAD and ESAD.

766 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:27:08pm

re: #760 ThingFish

Coming in late here, but someone please explain to me if we do end up with this Utopian nanny state that Mr. Obama wants to create, how will the current slothful and complacent citizens be prompted to CHANGE?

Simple...the Demonrats will finally wake up, although a bit late, and become registered Republicans.

767 rorschach  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:42:35pm

I'd rather have Bill Clinton as a first lady than this bee-yotch.

768 Promethea  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:43:04pm

re: #679 buzzsawmonkey

re: #674 Promethea

If I were in college, I probably *would* write a paper about dhimmified Jews.
You'd never get it done; you'd be crushed to death like the Collyer Brothers by the mounds of documentation.

I'm amazed you've heard of the Collyer Brothers. My mother always made me clean up my room under the threat of my dying like the Collyer Brothers.

769 GotTeeth  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:44:12pm

Now I'm convinced...

Michelle Obama is a fool!

Let's see here...the eight years I spent in the military, ready to give my life for her freedoms, is nothing to be proud of!

Now her recent comments...

Michelle, may I suggest you read "Tribes" @ ejectejecteject.com. You appear to have evolved/devolved so far into your narcissim you can no longer identify the Sheepdog from the Wolf!

Forgive me assuming you're already familiar with narcissism, you appear to be well acquainted, but for the good folks who don't spend all day focused on themselves;

"A pattern of traits and behaviors which signify infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of all others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition"

FLY NAVY!

770 Blackacre  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 5:51:58pm

"Tommy" Obama & Michelle Obamarosa -- Perfect Together!

771 EE  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:10:37pm

It appears that the Obamas are seeking to drive a wedge between their followers and the rest of the country.

Their followers are elevated and told that they are wonderful and saintly. "WE are the ones we have been waiting for!" they are told. On the other hand, the rest of the country is a cause for shame (producing no pride in America), and cynical, slothy, complacent, and downright mean.

By driving this sharp wedge between their followers and the rest of American society, the Obamas are acting like they are programming a cult, and seeking to ensure that there can be no escape from the cult. They are seeking to create a high bar for leaving the cult.

We are told that Obama is going to "unite" the country. I don't think so. It's the opposite. The Obamas are seeking to drive the sharpest of wedges between their followers (whom they elevate to saintliness) and the rest of American society (which they demonize).

772 Daisy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:18:21pm

re: #727 NY Nana

re: #719 Daisy

Michelle and Bill ought to shut up and take notes.
Great post!

/As much as I dislike Michelle Obama, I would not advise that any straight female be left alone with Bubba, anywhere at any time.

NY Nana,
A belated thanks .. and yes, yes, yes ... Bill Clinton is not merely a 'good time Charlie' the man has been credibly accused of rape.

It's beyond the beyond that Hillary spent her time as First Lady hiring and then managing thugs to keep the various women harmed by Bill down and out. And now she has the gaul to bellow about her superior "experience" in the White House when this is how she really spent her time there - instead of doing something worthwhile for the American people as so many of her predecessors have done.

773 Code Red 21  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:23:12pm

re: #714 freetoken

From the article:


She talked about her first trip to Africa—Barack took her to Kenya to meet his father’s family—and the realization that, as much as white society fails to account for the African-American experience, so does any conception of pan-blackness. “There’s also the view among many black Americans that Africa is home,” she said. “But when you’re a black American you’re very much an American first.”

An interesting observation, no?

When I read all of the very negative things that she has to say about this country, and it's people, a few crumbs from her table mean nothing. She's still a hypenated African-American.

774 kirche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:25:25pm

i hope barack beats her...

775 Orbit Rain  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:27:45pm
Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.

...don't forget all the ugly, angry, ignorant bitches...

lol

go ahead Michelle, say it, I dare you!

:D

776 kirche  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:32:37pm

and... AND... she is probably being restrained with her comments so not to jeapordize obama's little gig.

i wonder what she really thinks?

777 SnakeFarm  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:33:59pm

Say what you want Michelle but a) mean people need love too and b) baby got back!

778 lazypadawan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:36:06pm

What a downright mean life in America, what with the Ivy League education, cushy jobs, and mansions paid for in part by some rich dude in trouble.

779 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 6:46:52pm

re: #772 Daisy

Bill Clinton is not merely a 'good time Charlie' the man has been credibly accused of rape.

It's beyond the beyond that Hillary spent her time as First Lady hiring and then managing thugs to keep the various women harmed by Bill down and out. And now she has the gaul to bellow about her superior "experience" in the White House when this is how she really spent her time there - instead of doing something worthwhile for the American people as so many of her predecessors have done.

I honestly think that the Billaries are married in name only, and that it is purely a political thing.

Both of them seem to be Teflon coated..the Rose Law Firm, the AK mafia, Shrill's thesis, the association with the commie Alinsky, Vince Foster, Ron Brown...and now the tax returns..why are Americans so easy to fool? And that Shrill may very well be a lesbian, whose current alleged partner, Huma, is a member of the cult of islam...
Is it that they can get away with this?

/At least Rosalyn Carter put linoleum on the floors of the family quarters.

I honestly cannot think of one single thing that Shrill did while polluting the White House, except the stealth committee that tried to destroy our health care...

G-d forbid, if the Billaries get back in through the front door again? It will take decades to clean up the mess...

780 p-bear  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:39:32pm

imagine seeing her say: "if barack was elected, he will crack down on all of the mean people in the US! barack knows where you live mean people! you can't avoid the barack!"

781 avspatti  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:44:15pm

I may be mean, but I am most certainly NOT a sloth.

782 Daisy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:54:10pm

"/At least Rosalyn Carter put linoleum on the floors of the family quarters."

LOL! :)

I'm certain that you're right about Billary and Huma and whomever else they drag into what they will certainly once again make into their personal den of iniquity: The White House. God help us.

783 Daisy  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:56:43pm

re: #745 ploome hineni

..and the NEw Yorker Magazine is not known to be conservative or 'right'

right?

Right.

784 joan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:58:42pm

re: #15 Ward Cleaver

Somebody call the waaambulance.

:-)
:-)
.. the quote so nice * I smiled it twice

785 jenv  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:00:30pm

re: #714 freetoken

From the article:


She talked about her first trip to Africa—Barack took her to Kenya to meet his father’s family—and the realization that, as much as white society fails to account for the African-American experience, so does any conception of pan-blackness. “There’s also the view among many black Americans that Africa is home,” she said. “But when you’re a black American you’re very much an American first.”

An interesting observation, no?


Very interesting. She seems to be saying that black Americans shouldn't be Americans first, a position in accord with the Balkanization required by Democrat politics. She doesn't explain how whites should "account for the African-American experience" (other than demands to give blacks more tax dollars, presumptively paid for by whites).

786 joan  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:07:47pm

re: #216 mama winger

Smug, condescending, inflexible, bureaucratic. Yep, she's a liberal classic--real Nanny State material. Lecturing people about fruit for the kiddies, because we're too stupid to know you can't lure 'em into oranges in the Easter Basket instead of peeeps!

787 phillygirl  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:09:25pm

A liberal friend of mine told me she was "insulted" when I told her Michelle Obama should be grateful to our country for giving her the opportunity to attend two of our most elite universities. I tried to explain that Michelle has had the good life - a successful career, a happy marriage, two beautiful daughters, a million dollar house, and a real chance to become First Lady.

"So," I asked, "Why does she have such a chip on her shoulder? Why isn't she isn't proud of the opportunities afforded to her in this country?"

I don't remember any Asian or Jewish kids getting any "affirmative action" admissions to Princeton or to Harvard. No - these kids have to get double the SAT scores along with a resume full of activities to be even considered at the Ivy League schools. Michelle had to show decent grades and decent SAT scores - but I'd be very surprised if they were on par with most of the admitted students.

My friend's standard liberal reply was to tell me that some people get into Yale with substandard grades and abilities - alluding, of course, to George W. Bush. The follow-on reply was, "At least Michelle Obama can put two sentences together."

I told her that all of Al Gore's children went to Harvard, and so did all of the Kennedy kids. So yes, there are legacy admissions. But I don't think many of these legacies walked around hating the school that admitted them, or the wonderful country that had the luck to live in.

788 Andy Dufresne  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:09:29pm

What a disgraceful comment. Sadly, the media will completely ignore it, but this really bothers me.

Who the heck is Michelle Obama to call Americans lazy? What a bunch of garbage. The people in this country are the hardest working on earth. Limousine liberals don't want to admit that because they hate this country, but it is the truth.

Assuredly, she looks down on people who have the audacity to oppose her empty suit husband because they didn't go to Harvard Law. Yet another reason to vote against this guy. He would be absolutely clueless the instant he gets into the Oval Office.

789 winston06  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:10:06pm

She's more than welcome to live in Cuba or Iran

790 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 8:52:33pm

re: #782 Daisy


I'm certain that you're right about Billary and Huma and whomever else they drag into what they will certainly once again make into their personal den of iniquity: The White House. God help us.

We have until November, or hopefully not that long, to try and get someone to ask the right questions, in public. Some of the MSM actually seem to be anti-Shrillary...I just hope this will not go to a brokered convention where the Billaries can buy the super delegates who by now are opening off shore bank accounts.

I honestly think that the Demonrats should be cut off at the gulch, and that their system be declared illegal. Super delegates? Give me a break...reminds me of Boston politics.

791 Suzette  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 9:06:02pm

Michelle Obama is damn drama queen and a rather mean one at that too.

792 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 9:16:55pm

re: #787 phillygirl

I don't remember any Asian or Jewish kids getting any "affirmative action" admissions to Princeton or to Harvard. No - these kids have to get double the SAT scores along with a resume full of activities to be even considered at the Ivy League schools.

The average SAT score of my freshman class (not Princeton) was 1505. It's not clear how you can get double that. Two residents of my dorm had 1600 -- an Irish kid from NJ and a blond surfer from Cal. The various Asian, Jewish, and black kids were well below that, dozens of points below.

Michelle had to show decent grades and decent SAT scores - but I'd be very surprised if they were on par with most of the admitted students.

Do you have any actual facts to back that up, or is it pure prejudice?

I told her that all of Al Gore's children went to Harvard, and so did all of the Kennedy kids.

I don't know about Gore's kids, but JFK Jr. was in that same dorm (not Harvard, either). In fact, he had the same room I did, but nearly two decades later.

There's no question that it's possible to get into an Ivy League school with a mediocre background if you have the right relatives. It's possible to graduate from one without doing much work, maybe 12 hours a week in easy courses and another 30-40 to do the reading and papers. It's also possible to graduate by spending four years working your tail off, studying until the library closes at 2am, 20 hours a week in lectures and another 8 in labs, and come out with one heck of an education. I was in physics and computer science, so my view may be skewed, but the liberal arts people I knew worked every bit as hard. As did the pretty little math major that I married.

Btw, within certain limits, this is true of most colleges and universities, not just the Ivys; you get from your college the education that you extract from it. However, there are certain advantages to those multi-billion-dollar endowments and fiercely selective admissions. One that I received: I mentioned in my admissions interview that I was interested in superconductivity; a year later I was assigned as my freshman advisor a guy with a Nobel in the subject.

793 daverx  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 9:52:23pm

Michelle Obama-Rickles:

Take this country... please!

794 Droplet  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 9:55:50pm

re: #793 daverx

Michelle Obama-Rickles:

Take this country... please!

You got that right! lol. She's a spoiled brat who hates white peoples. I wonder why Obama married this woman? They seem tempermentally unsuitable.

795 GGMac  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 10:25:27pm

Leona Helmsley has been dethroned.

796 Bob Munck  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 11:04:53pm

re: #795 GGMac

Leona Helmsley has been dethroned.

Strangely enough, that was the name of the rich young girl that John had an affair with when he was married to his first wife. After the divorce, he married the rich girl and her family fortune formed the basis of his political career. Sound familiar? Yes, it's Cindy Helmsley McCain.

797 GGMac  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 11:20:54pm

re: #796 Bob Munck

re: #795 GGMac


Leona Helmsley has been dethroned.

Strangely enough, that was the name of the rich young girl that John had an affair with when he was married to his first wife. After the divorce, he married the rich girl and her family fortune formed the basis of his political career. Sound familiar? Yes, it's Cindy Helmsley McCain.

Hmmm. A phrase is forming in my toyed-with brain, and it's seeming that "chocolate-covered black widow spider" just might be applied to both of these "ladies".

798 GGMac  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 11:23:11pm

re: #797 GGMac

re: #796 Bob Munck


re: #795 GGMac

Leona Helmsley has been dethroned.

Strangely enough, that was the name of the rich young girl that John had an affair with when he was married to his first wife. After the divorce, he married the rich girl and her family fortune formed the basis of his political career. Sound familiar? Yes, it's Cindy Helmsley McCain.

Hmmm. A phrase is forming in my toyed-with brain, and it's seeming that "chocolate-covered black widow spider" just might be applied to both of these "ladies".


And I'm not now speaking of Leona.

799 hershel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 11:39:50pm

Munck

Are you claiming that the high percentage of Jews and Asians at elite schools is due to anything other than achievement? Or that there is not a long history of quotas attempting to reduce these percentages?
Possibly not still being implemented, but then your own evidence ("my dorm") is strictly anecdotal.

800 hershel  Wed, Mar 5, 2008 11:41:22pm

Yep, we didn't cancel the Presidential election and just appoint her husband President for life. Downright mean of us.

801 hailing frequencies open  Thu, Mar 6, 2008 5:36:18am

It's amazing what you see when you stare into a mirror your whole life.

802 Flavia  Thu, Mar 6, 2008 6:30:23am

Now, now, wait a minute.

What Michelle Obama has said sounds a lot like Confession -
"Bless me Father, for I have sinned; I have sinned by, etc."

Or maybe the Vidui - the Jewish public version of Confession.

Oh, no, wait again - she's not Catholic, or Jewish!

So she's just doing what bigots do: projecting her own faults
onto others.

You know, much as some people around here hate Hillary, I don't
remember her ever saying anything bad about AMERICA when she
was First Lady. Or since.

803 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Mar 6, 2008 7:24:20am

Sloths? Does she mean the recipients of her husband's proposed social and public assistance programs?

804 Bob Munck  Thu, Mar 6, 2008 8:31:12am

re: #799 hershel

Are you claiming that the high percentage of Jews and Asians at elite schools is due to anything other than achievement? Or that there is not a long history of quotas attempting to reduce these percentages?

I'm not making any such claims in any direction. What did I write that led you to that?

Here's some text from our alumni magazine about this year's class: Fifty-five percent of the 1,485 class members are female, and 35 percent are students of color. Asian Americans make up 17.8 percent of the class, Latino Americans 9.4 percent, African Americans 7 percent, and seven Native Americans 0.5 percent. ... 14 percent of the students are the first in their family to attend college.

The president of the university (a black female, btw) has said that one of the biggest problems is to keep the male-female ratio close to 50%. I don't know what the exact percentages of these groups are in the general population, but it sounds like Asian Americans are over-represented and African Americans slightly under-represented. I have no idea about Latino or Native Americans. There don't seem to be any statistics for "Jewish American." Given that there are 9-10 applications for every slot, I have no doubt that the admissions people would have no problem filling the whole class with left-handed Lutheran women of Norwegian descent or any other particular ethnic group.

Possibly not still being implemented, but then your own evidence ("my dorm") is strictly anecdotal.

Of course. It's also 45 years out of date.

805 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Mar 6, 2008 8:36:28am
806 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Mar 8, 2008 10:56:18am

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