Scumbags on parade.

Been trying to watch the hotair link, it has been slow this am...

Jammie's works like a charm

All your threads are belong to CoquimboJoe

VIDEO:
In this video the Gathering of Eagles denounces the Winter Soldier Conference, and announces our protest of this event in Silver Spring, Maryland.

re: #4 coquimbojoe

Nope!

Media biases have been repeatedly confirmed recently...so we can expect predictable results...

If they don't respond to this one, I would be surprised!

The media will be falling all over themselves to promote these snake oil salesmen, of course, so we have that to look forward to.

But, He will deign to descend from Mount Olympus to show us how the MSM don't tell us what we think they're telling us. He'll make everything right again.

Thanks for the link, Charles.

Just in case the folks don't notice at the bottom of the post, that's an item from Just a Grunt.

I can't even click on the first two links right now. My blood pressure is high enough, thanks.

Jammie, good report, as always.

Ahh, there's nothing more rock-solid than reports of atrocities by U.S. troops, as conveyed by John Kerry's best friend's sister's uncle's nephew's third cousin's bowling buddy, and offered into Congressional testimony with the tiny follow-up fig leaf caveat that the truth of said tales should really be verified with the original source. Whoever that is.

"The Media" (sat TV) charged me over $900 just to access their propaganda bureaus last year. They just had another price increase this month.

Why am I paying for this putrid garbage?

Paging TFK!

Are they all going to throw their medals over the fence at the White House after their testimony?

Doubtful any of them received medals.

Just another facet of the left, with same core: rotten yellow coward bastards unfit to share the same planet with real Americans.

/I understand NASA is looking for volunteers for the Mars colony...

re: #14 loppyd

Are they all going to throw their medals over the fence at the White House after their testimony?

Doubtful any of them received medals.

But now they'll be in for the Order of Lenin.

re: #14 loppyd

Are they all going to throw their medals over the fence at the White House after their testimony?

Doubtful any of them received medals.

No medals for basket-weaving?

Veterans are the best people I know. I'm honored to have been presented a VFW medal during ROTC in college, which is a treasure. I contributed to the Swift Boat Vets' fund in 2004 and would do it again.

People like John Kerry (and this new group appears to be chock full of people like him) disgust me in a huge way.

But the MSM disgusts me even more, because without the MSM's compliance - even glee - these idiots would be barely noticed.

I noticed the Iraq Veterans Against the War website is very well put together and looks 'expensive' in terms how the site is put together and designed.

I wonder if George Soros has contributed to it?

The difference this time is that we actually have fact checkers that aren't tied to the MSM... We know these people have agendas... We know they are destructive...

They are traitors, pure and simple.

By the time you weed out the phony soldiers who never really served, or were never in Iraq, and the ones who were there whose stories are verifiably untrue or impossible to prove, will there be anyone left?

Scott Beauchamp, call your office.

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope!

I don't know, the first four posts on a busy morning gotta be a record of sorts. Not that I am trying to set any, but that late night open thread stuff.

Anyhow, is there any other site to go see the HotAir/Kerry video? I have been trying to watch it all day is there a Drudge-lanche happening there?

re: #22 coquimbojoe

First four was pretty good.

re: #19 psaturn

I noticed the Iraq Veterans Against the War website is very well put together and looks 'expensive' in terms how the site is put together and designed.

I wonder if George Soros has contributed to it?

You're right - I noticed that too. The site obviously cost them big bucks.

re: #22 coquimbojoe

I think the video is at World Net Daily also

From the Vets For Freedom link, talking about Jesse MacBeth:

The more perceptive, or at least conscious, among you would easily note that his beret is going the wrong way, his T-shirt is the wrong color, and his sleeves are rolled the wrong way. The fact that he appears to be a “soup sandwich on a stick in the rain” might also occur to you.

HAHA love these guys.

And then there's this, further down the page:

IVAW’s founders aren’t immune to “Truth Deficit Disorder” either. Yesterday I mentioned founder Jimmy Massey. I’ve been told that Massey will not be at the WSII hearings and that he now resides in Venezuela where his recent book was published. (His first was published in France.)

They go on to document the lies he told and their subsequent demolishing. Yet you will not hear a word about this guy and his lies when the IVAW is discussed in the MSM.

/spit

Media sponsored treason? No doubt!

And I seem to remember that at Winter Soldier I many of the organizers were fake military.

There are times when a POS just will not go away. Mr. Kerry should STFU.

re: #24 Charles

One of the founders lives in Venezuela now, per the Vets For Freedom link. Wouldn't it be interesting if Chavez was somehow involved in their cause?

re: #25 pat

Thank you!

Is there any anti-American or anti-war group Soros doesn't support?

It gets redundant after awhile, but nearly every time I see some "study" or "report" issued by some special interest group, it takes very little time digging through and finding his fingerprints on it.

Of course, the media never bothers to do that.

re: #5 NoSubmission

That's right around the corner from where I work. I think I'll stop by and offer my support to GoE!

Let these people speak! Let their voices be heard!
Then, let them be exposed for what they are.

re: #26 gop_patriot

he now resides in Venezuela

Heh.

OT

Jihadists murder Catholic Archbishop

re: #33 MrSilverDragon

That's right around the corner from where I work. I think I'll stop by and offer my support to GoE!

That would be great if you could. Thank you!

re: #24 Charles

You're right - I noticed that too. The site obviously cost them big bucks.

Maybe the New York Times can devote some reporters to dig into that? /what am I thinking - there's the Spiterama to deal with.

re: #24 Charles

So, think "Jen" II will show up and testify?

/I sure hope there is some responsible media recording the event

This weekend is the 5th anniversary of the invasion of Iraq and the moonbats and other assorted freaks will be out in force so don't forget to fly your flag...and carry your camera with you just in case you see something that needs to be documented.

Oh, please. There is no draft this time. And there is the internet.

/Their pathetic rehash scheme is going to get ripped to shreds.

Treason is in season.

Are these the guys that are so underequiped that it is easier for them to capture amunition from the Taliban than to get it from George Bush?

Here's a quick YouTube link.

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

Is there any anti-American or anti-war group Soros doesn't support?

It gets redundant after awhile, but nearly every time I see some "study" or "report" issued by some special interest group, it takes very little time digging through and finding his fingerprints on it.

Of course, the media never bothers to do that.

I've been wondering if he's been buying up oil futures to screw up the economy so a demonrat gets elected president.

I checked around, looks like IVAW is supported by Inavale Foundation. The foundation has many members of Warren Buffett's family as board of directors...

We know that Warren Buffett is now the richest man in America...

So why is a capitalist family seem to be trying to subvert America's military?

re: #44 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Are these the guys that are so underequiped that it is easier for them to capture amunition from the Taliban than to get it from George Bush?

/well, hell, when Captains are leading platoons, who knows?

re: #22 coquimbojoe

I don't know, the first four posts on a busy morning gotta be a record of sorts. Not that I am trying to set any, but that late night open thread stuff.

Anyhow, is there any other site to go see the HotAir/Kerry video? I have been trying to watch it all day is there a Drudge-lanche happening there?

Do you mean the YAF video that's running on Hot Air? It's also on youtube here:

Jason Mattera: 1
John Kerry: 0

re: #46 Kosh's Shadow

And purposely devaluing the US dollar...

OT: Obama Man Can!

A cute youtube video done to the tune of the Candyman. Enjoy.

OT, but important.

Obama's racist preacher is on an Obama Committee!

Jeremiah Wright, in the news today because video of a sermon (parts of which had been reported, and disavowed, before) adds some heat to the discussion of his relationship with Obama, has generally been described as connected to Obama only informally -- a religious figure whom with whom Obama has said he disagrees at times, a kind of cranky uncle.

But he also has a formal role on the campaign.

Wright is a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee -- the sort of largely honorary, advisory body that in recent days has recently been used mostly to throw people off who say controversial things.

The Obama campaign couldn't immediately say whether he'd remain on the committee.

Of course they'll try to start a physical confrontation with GoE and other vets.

re: #45 coquimbojoe

Thanks,

This is a must see for everyone.

Kerry, you make me want to vomit!

re: #47 psaturn

So no one else can get rich like them, obviously. Need to keep us peasants in our place.

re: #53 rappmandu

Of course they'll try to start a physical confrontation with GoE and other vets.

I hope so, a few crushed skulls might cool their commie ardor for protest.

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

Is there any anti-American or anti-war group Soros doesn't support?

It gets redundant after awhile, but nearly every time I see some "study" or "report" issued by some special interest group, it takes very little time digging through and finding his fingerprints on it.

Of course, the media never bothers to do that.

Yeah, if New York Times can do such a great job in digging who was #9 's favorite hooker, I am sure they could find out easily who supported these groups...
but will they report it to us? Probably not, since they support their position!

What kinda scumbag comes home from war and accuses his buddies of war crimes? Even if the charges are true you should not have sat back and waited till you got to the safety of your house to level these charges.

Counter protest in D.C. this weekend. The following is written by Melanie Morgan.

As recently as a few days ago, Cindy Sheehan, the woman who dishonors her son with lies about his service wrote this:

..Iraq Vets Against the War is holding a “Winter Soldier” event soon, and they will recount stories of how they participated in war crimes or witnessed war crimes, which is not in dispute because the entire invasion and occupation is a war crime. These young people came home alive and many of them will have to deal with their demons forever as my Vietnam veteran friends still do, but we families of soldiers who were killed will also be haunted by things we know and things we will never know or never know for sure. The stories of military neglect, abuse (sexual, physical, mental, emotional) or lies are almost as many as there are troops: living or dead...

The world according to Cindy says that our troops are participating in war crimes and atrocities, just like the Vietnam Veterans did..and the stories of abuse are continuing today.

Cindy, STOP LYING ABOUT OUR TROOPS.

WE WON'T STAND FOR IT.

This YouTube video explains it all.

Come with us to Washington to stand against the liars of the left, and their enablers.

Go to [Link: www.moveamericaforward.com,...] [Link: www.gatheringofeagles.com...] and [Link: www.eaglesup.org...] for details.

I am leaving Thursday to join my friends and fellow patriots. Be there with me.

re: #9 JammieWearingFool

Thanks for the link, Charles.

Just in case the folks don't notice at the bottom of the post, that's an item from Just a Grunt.

Haven't heard from JAG in a while. He still post here at LGF anymore?

Of course to the left, a war crime is a US solidier breaking a terrorists arm when he doesn't comply...

Code Pinko circus distracts Congress;

Anti-war protesters chant "war criminal" at Rice

Chanting "war criminal," anti-war protesters waved blood-colored hands at U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Wednesday, but police held them back as she left a Capitol Hill hearing room.

Earlier, Republicans had complained about the distraction from the group as they held up signs saying "Condi Kills Kids" during the hearing on the State Department budget.

We Came. We Saw. We Murdered.

In a manner reminiscent of Jing-hiss Khaaan, no doubt.

Okay, I am going back to read/watch/listen to the rest of this important story .. but just had to ask for some moral support after - once again - hearing the walking corpse say, "Ghenghis Khhhan". I thought I'd never have to hear it again. And then I heard it again. :(

OKay, back to the story.

re: #54 savage_nation

Those pigs better not come anywhere near my dads funeral. I'm gonna try to get a 21 gun salute for him and there are going to be a lot of military people out there, of course.

To my knowledge, those guys that perform the funeral are old AMVETS members and I think there are a few WWII veterans in the group that will be there.

The burial will be at Riverside National Cemetary

savage, your dad passed? Damn, I'm so sorry. How are you doing?

re: #38 lawhawk

It says that the web site is funded by the INAVALE FOUNDATION INC.
Boston, MA

I can't find their giving priorities, board members or anything else on line.

Anyone else?

re: #24 Charles
Funding for ivaw

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

IVAW identifies its "most important partner" as Veterans for Peace. It also claims to have "very close relationships" with Military Families Speak Out, Gold Star Families for Peace, and Vietnam Veterans Against the War. "With these partners," says IVAW, "we support the Bring Them Home Now! Campaign." Moreover, IVAW is a steering committee member of the United for Peace and Justice anti-war coalition led by Leslie Cagan, a longtime committed socialist who aligns her politics with those of Fidel Castro's Communist Cuba.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

United For Peace and Justice: This anti-war coalition consists of more than 1,300 local and national groups joined together "to protest the immoral and disastrous Iraq War and oppose our [American] government's policy of permanent warfare and empire-building." The coalition's Unity Statement denounces "the 'pre-emptive' wars of aggression waged by the Bush administration" in its "drive to expand U.S. control over other nations and strip us of our rights at home under the cover of fighting terrorism and spreading democracy." "The world," says UFPJ, "is destined to find itself in a state of perpetual war so long as the United States maintains its bloated nuclear arsenal.” The co-chair and principal leader of UFPJ is Leslie Cagan, a longtime communist who proudly aligns her politics with those of Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

re: #59 SecretInternetDoucheBag

What kinda scumbag comes home from war and accuses his buddies of war crimes?

Oh, I dunno, maybe the kind of guy that was never there in the first place?

re: #60 ciaospirit

Here's the youtube video link about the counter protest from my #60. A must watch.

Most of ya'll have beaten me to the punch. If these guys are fake soldiers or in the vein of Scott Beauchamp (were there but never saw the things they claim they saw) then it should be rather easy in this information age to poke holes in their stories. But, it would have to be done before they speak so that the audience knows they're listening to fabrications and not facts. Otherwise, we are always going to be in react mode.

But, do keep in mind a universal truth about all soldiers throughout history. In the words of Shakespeare from Henry V:

Besides, there is no king,
be his cause never so spotless,
can try it out with
all unspotted soldiers.

In other words, there is always going to be a few bad ones in there. There may be the very real problem that these guys might be telling the worst/best kinds of lies - the ones with a little truth mixed in. That's what makes them scary and why these accounts have to be looked at under a microscope.

They 'support' the troops in the same manner they 'love' their country.

What a bunch of disgusting liars.

re: #43 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Treason is in season.

Does that mean it's OK to hunt them?

/grabbing shotgun and ammo

Disgrace to their Country, I spit on them!

re: #63 Terp Mole

Thank God for small favors: No photos of the Code Pinkos.

re: #54 savage_nation

Those pigs better not come anywhere near my dads funeral. I'm gonna try to get a 21 gun salute for him and there are going to be a lot of military people out there, of course.

To my knowledge, those guys that perform the funeral are old AMVETS members and I think there are a few WWII veterans in the group that will be there.

The burial will be at Riverside National Cemetary

Try the local VFW post. The funeral director usually arrages it. It's an awesome tribute. We had the whole nine yards for my Pop. I'll never forget it. I have the flag and the dummy shells encased and on display along with his other awarded decorations, etc. Hope it works out for ya, Savage.

BTW, my sincere condolences.

re: #49 Cattt

Do you mean the YAF video that's running on Hot Air? It's also on youtube here: [Link: www.youtube.com...]

Jason Mattera: 1
John Kerry: 0

That was just a beautiful thing to watch!

Jenn-Jiss Kahn could not be reached for comment on whether the soldeiers actions were reminiscent of him.

re: #74 'Nam Grunt

Disgrace to their Country, I spit on them!

{NAM}!

They will get theirs.

re: #67 WriterMom

[Link: www.taxexemptworld.com...]

re: #78 J. Lichty

Jenn-Jiss Kahn could not be reached for comment on whether the soldeiers actions were reminiscent of him.

He has no idear.

WTF is with that, BTW? I'm from MA and I don't add an "r" to the end of that word.

re: #18 Cattt

Veterans are the best people I know. I'm honored to have been presented a VFW medal during ROTC in college, which is a treasure. I contributed to the Swift Boat Vets' fund in 2004 and would do it again.

People like John Kerry (and this new group appears to be chock full of people like him) disgust me in a huge way.

But the MSM disgusts me even more, because without the MSM's compliance - even glee - these idiots would be barely noticed.

My 13 yo daughter just told me that she's joined the Jr. ROTC for next school year. The CO is a retired Gunny.

I'm so proud of her.

re: #80 lawhawk

I saw that but you have to pay for the downloads. I can't find other stuff. It's funny.

re: #52 loppyd

OT, but important.

Obama's racist preacher is on an Obama Committee!

Jeremiah Wright, in the news today because video of a sermon (parts of which had been reported, and disavowed, before) adds some heat to the discussion of his relationship with Obama, has generally been described as connected to Obama only informally -- a religious figure whom with whom Obama has said he disagrees at times, a kind of cranky uncle.

But he also has a formal role on the campaign.

Wright is a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee -- the sort of largely honorary, advisory body that in recent days has recently been used mostly to throw people off who say controversial things.

The Obama campaign couldn't immediately say whether he'd remain on the committee.

As I said in another thread, why does this remind me of Libya being on the UN Human Rights commission?

re: #74 'Nam Grunt

Disgrace to their Country, I spit on them!

'Nam!

Ship these clowns off to visit the Kerry memorial in Cambodia.
/sarc

What's the date of the Sunday magazine? Is that recent?

Will these guys get a fawning public Senate hearing like Kerry did? Or did they already get one that I missed?

re: #75 Daisy Thank God for small favors: No photos of the Code Pinkos.

You missed the slideshow hyperlink?
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

J. Kerry didn't do enough damage to us with his phony Winter Soldier crap, it appear that we now have a new generation, no doubt egged on by the same slimy traitors, trying to wreak havoc on our troops. At least we have one advantage today, we have the means to openly combat the disingenuous remarks and testimony of these alleged vets. And all this just when many of us Vets were finally able to reconcile our service and the put the whole baby-killer past behind us.

Want the kiss of death? - hang out with John Kerry.

John Kerry is a liar, a disgrace to the uniform and a disgrace to this great nation.

Charles,

Forwarded you the information relating to Inavale - it's available as public records via the Mass. website, but figure you'd use your discretion on whether to post or not.

Hey Bunny-hop and Cartman, I'm doing great hope you guys are too. ;-)

re: #94 savage_nation

Give your kid a huge Savage hug.

Good for her!

I will do just that, Savage.

My condolences for your loss.

re: #89 Terp Mole

re: #89 Terp Mole

You missed the slideshow hyperlink?
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Ah geeze, yes, I had missed it. And just when 'Ghenghis Khhaan' was ready to stop taking up space in my mind - I opened your link - and in rushed the bloody Pinkos. :) ...

It really pisses these guys off that American might actually win a just war.

"For those that have fought for it, Life has a flavor the protected will never know"

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

Let's see if I understand this.

1) People lying about where they served, or whether they served at all, who

2) Will then retail stories about "atrocities" which never occurred

3) By demonstrations, by stories run in a compliasant media, and by testimony to Congress.

4) As the cherry on top of this shit sundae, they pervert the meaning of the Tom Paine quote about "summer soldiers"--which refers to those who, like the Iraq Veterans Against the War, quit in the middle of an immediate conflict--and refer to themselves, and their betrayal, as "winter soldiers."

Have I got it right?

You forgot to mention that they do this as a mating ritual. Otherwise, you're substantially correct.

I can't begin to tell y'all how much this disgusts me.
BUT - there is a difference between this Winter Soldiers II and Winter Soldiers I and that difference is: us. The Internet.
This is what, IMO, needs to be done (and in this order):
a) identify the name of the "vet" who claims to have committed or seen others commit atrocities
b) verify if said individual was ever in the military and if so when
c) if the individual WAS in the military during the time of the Afghanistan and/or Iraq actions, is he still active duty and if so where is he stationed?
d) if the individual is no longer active duty, did he receive an honorable discharge?
e) if the individual was in the military or still is AND served in Afghanistan and/or Iraq, find out the dates of such service, the unit served with and where that unit was at the time the "atrocities" were committed.
f) If all else about the individual checks out: he was in the military, he did serve in Iraq or Afghanistan during the relevant time periods, his unit was in the location where he claims it was when the "atrocities" were committed THEN and ONLY THEN, listen to his story.
Then question the DOD about his service and statements and see if there is any corroborating proof of the "atrocities" and if so, prosecute his ass for not notifying his commanding officer while in the service.
IF he did serve and committed the atrocities himself, prosecute him under the UCMJ (iirc, he must still be on Reserve Duty, active or inactive and is still subject to the UCMJ).
Of course, I'm using "he" here only because, except for "Jen" all the players in this little drama, so far, are men. But it is not intended to exclude female troops at all.
Until these sonsabitches can prove their claims to service and time/location of atrocities committed, totally dismiss them.
Should they, however, testify before Congress, then prosecute them for lying under oath to the Congress of the United States.
NONE of the foregoing was really done in any organized fashion when Kerry testified before Congress in Winter Soldier I.
Thanks to the Internet we can now do so on our own and don't need to rely on the lying MSM or for that matter, Congress, to discover the truth behind these outrageous claims.

The good news is that we're wise to these tricks, and its going to be MUCH harder to get away with it this time.

It came back and bit Kerry on the ass; the cycle should be shorter this time around.

savage-nation,

Losing a parent is huge. I'm sorry for your loss.

re: #26 gop_patriot Hmm, Jimmy Massey now resides in Venezuela? Wonder if Hugo helped that group out financially to, if nothing else, set up that website.

Thanks for linking us.

re: #54 savage_nation
Savage - I again offer my condolences and sypathies to you and your family. I know it wasn't unexpected, but I also know it hurts anyway.
God Bless You and keep you strong.

re: #54 savage_nation

My condolences to you and your family. I know it can be rough but you need to be there and I am sure there won't be any problems with the funeral service. Take care of your mother.
My prayers are with you during this tough time.

re: #104 buzzsawmonkey

You know I said it w/levity .. at the same time, I believe it's true. Same goes for all the 'anti-war' protest events.

The rest of us have candle lit dinners, etc. (not to mention that healthy females actually find heroism an attractive trait) Moonbats go for each other while wimpily strolling about carrying hate posters and making meaningless emblems like the Peace Duck. Go figure.

re: #110 savage_nation

I'm glad you had time to prepare; it helps. Still, it's a profound loss. You have my empathy.

evil, lying scumbags

You are way to generous.

re: #54 savage_nation
I'm so very sorry to hear about your dad, may he RIP. Our prayers are with you from my home.

Not necessarily OT, but maybe.
#67 WriterMom

I also checked the INAVALE FOUNDATION INC.
Boston, MA website and after clicking around a bit I found this organization. They are also beneficiaries of the Inavale Foundation's generosity to the tune of somewhere between $100K to $249K last year (the site was not specific).

They evidently harvest high school kids with certain communication skills that may have been passed over by traditional college selection processes and put them through an 8 month college prep program and then deploy them to the colleges as students. This website is an interesting read. The ultimate goal is to teach these kids to work with the college administrators to be more accepting of diversity. These students work together as an organized group also helping other student organizations that may be more "timid" to become more vocal.
[Link: www.possefoundation.org...]

And yes, there is no doubt the Iran Veterans Against War site is very professionally designed. I have always thought the Obama site was quite expensively designed as well. Far better design than one might expect from a junior senator who is coming out of relative obscurity on a grassroots campaign. Even Hillary's site can't touch it. I really have to wonder about why that is.

re: #109 savage_nation
It's a result of two things: a) my being smeared, along with all other Vietnam Veterans by John F. Kerry at Winter Soldier I and b) my legal training.
I want the truth to come out. Not all soldiers are Boy Scouts with rifles and I have little doubt that some "over the top" activities happened. I also have no doubt that those activities were tiny in number and committed by a very few psychotics and we need to shine the light of truth AND JUSTICE on them.
And, perhaps more importantly, not let THIS generation of Veterans suffer from what MY generation of Veterans had to for so long.

re: #110 savage_nation

It's ok. I've seen this coming for years now

savage-

I know that in addition to this awful loss of your father, that you also have been suffering form other major disruptions in your life.

I only know you through your words here...
I'm convinced that you'll get through this pain.

Thank you, Vets for Freedom.

re: #118 wintercat

And yes, there is no doubt the Iran Veterans Against War site is very professionally designed. I have always thought the Obama site was quite expensively designed as well. Far better design than one might expect from a junior senator who is coming out of relative obscurity on a grassroots campaign. Even Hillary's site can't touch it. I really have to wonder about why that is.

First of all, "H" isn't exactly poorly funded. He's rich in campaign dollars, and has been for a while. How much does a good internet site cost (ie in comparison to millions of dollars of donations)?

Being younger, he probably appreciates the internet more. And its a positive feedback loop. . .the internet generation probably likes him more because of his strong site.

Also, having a much younger base of support, its probable that Obama has some professional internet web-designer supporter who threw up the site for him.

re: #118 wintercat

A few weeks ago I tried to dig up information on this Invale Foundation and pretty much kept running into a dead end. They are linked to a lot of left wing groups but it is hard to find out where they get their funding from.

re: #120 realwest

It's a result of two things: a) my being smeared, along with all other Vietnam Veterans by John F. Kerry at Winter Soldier I and b) my legal training.
snip

And, perhaps more importantly, not let THIS generation of Veterans suffer from what MY generation of Veterans had to for so long.

Thanks! Well stated!

George
US Army, Nam 68-69

My condolences to you Savage & thanks to your father for his service. It's never easy to lose a loved one, even if you do know it's coming. Prayers to you & your family.

re: #123 looking closely

Obama's site was not thrown up. It is an extremely well designed site that cost big bucks to produce. His site is probably one of the best designed sites I have ever seen. Everything about Obama is extremely well (and expensively) packaged.

re: #116 savage_nation

Believe it or not, but my ex and the stepdaughter are quite upset. I didnt expect that out of those two.

I can believe it. It's not unusual for the mourning created by divorce to go on in this way. I'm also divorced .. and there's not one happy (or sad) family occasion that doesn't have some bitter-sweetness included. Maybe some of that's going on for you too? If you're anything like me, maybe it's a little easier to get mad than sad w/regard to your ex.

re: #56 doppelganglander

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

That is PRECISELY why certain superwealthy toads push marxist bullshit...they got their money and want to keep all us penny-stinkers in our plebian places. The fact that they use class warfare rhetoric against the less educated is, to them, delicious irony.

I`ll take the liberty of re-posting a link to Amazon of a very (99 cents and up) cheap book which is basically a re-printing of a speech read into the Congressional Record by Rep. John Schmitz in 1971. It basically names names of persons, organizations, committees, front groups,foundations, college professors,foreign intelligence agencies, etc. that were active the first time around doing this crap, and connects the dots. Given the high proportion of aging leftists and old hippies involved this time, I think it might be profitable for someone with the right skills and patience to out some of their modern counterparts as the same people and groups, perhaps some with foreign connections.

This movement reminds me of nothing more than an evil vampire, driven back into its coffin by the sunlight of the Reagan days, that now thinks it`s night-time again in America and it can slink out and sink its poison fangs again into the country. They`re wrong this time, we`re loaded with the garlic and holy water of the internet and sites like this one,and they might have blundered out into more sunlight than they expected. I long for the day when the wooden stake is driven firmly, utterly and finally through the heart of this particular noxious vampire, that lives on the stolen blood and honor of others.

The Viet Cong Front in the United States

re: #85 Cartman

I spit twice!

I also liked this little blurb at the bottom of the IVAW website:

IVAW is proud to receive our 501(c)3 tax exempt status through the sponsorship of Veterans For Peace

Gaming the system even as you undermine it.

re: #54 savage_nation

My father is at the LA site. Sorry to hear Savage.

re: #138 savage_nation

Darned if I know Savage, I`m going to google his name and record, the preface of the book said he was a California representative.

Also, please accept my condolences for your loss, I just read about it.

re: #138 savage_nation

Dang , you`re absolutely right on that, I had no idea, he was also a Bircher. The info in the speech is still valuable though I think.

Maybe they are looking to be a Dembo presidential candidate when they grow up.

re: #24 Charles

You're right - I noticed that too. The site obviously cost them big bucks.

Charles, their site is funded by the "Inavale Foundation", whoever that is.

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

You are the new media.

There is going to come a point when this crap is no longer tolerated by Americans.

John Kerry is the stuff you scrape off your shoes.

This is most disgusting. How did any of these people even sign up for service in the first place?

re: #125 Just_A_Grunt

They've done a very good job of minimizing who and what they are on the web.

[Link: www.taxexemptworld.com...]

10$ for the download.

NOT
NEBRASKA,
R

re: #54 savage_nation

I am sorry - best to your family at this difficult time.

re: #654 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Corned beef brisket
Cabbage
Baby Carrots
New potatoes
Pearl Onions
Cracked black pepper
Celery Salt
Can beer

Put meat and beer and water to top in crock pot. Cook til meat is falling apart when prodded with a fork.

Add all other ingredients. Cook until potatoes and cabbage are soft.

Double the ingredients from what you think you'll need - everyone will want seconds...

Oops, wrong thread. Sorry folks!

re: #47 psaturn

re: #135 Babydoc97

Didn't Buffett throw a huge chunk of his change into the pot with the Bill Gates Foundation? It seems to me Buffett has been a pretty generous supporter of the semi-soft left for a while and (I think) a staunch supporter of the left wing in the so-called social issues. Again, I"m fuzzy on this, but I think that he (and Gates) are by no means "anti-Zionists" or anti-American to the extent that Soros is, but I would defnitely put them into the category of frequently useful idiots.
Anyone who really believes that "the rich" and/or Big Business are conservative has been asleep at the wheel for the last few decades (or more.) Either that, or you've heard the Democratic Party's mantra so often you've subconsciously bought it!
Soros is a totalitarian self-hating ideologue. When it comes to guys like Bill Gates, I think they're just following the crowd. They want to do Good and can't think of what that might be on their own...So they take Time Magazine's word for it. If they were 12th century barons, they'd found a monastery or build a church. If they were 19th robber barons, they'd found a museum or college. Going with the flow of whatever the elite deem as righteousness.

re: #54 savage_nation
Sorry for your loss Savage. Your life certainly seems to be keeping you busy. From what I know of you, I'm sure you'll keep on.

Anyone out there have any hard info on Buffett? I'm technologically challenged, you know.

re: #54 savage_nation

Nobody needs any additional grief, for sure. Call the Patriot Guard Riders, Savage. They do escorts and flag lines to keep the lowlifes at a distance. Many are vets also.

I'm trying to dig in on this Inavale Foundation, and I quickly came up with the firm of CARLIN CHARRON & ROSEN LLP - an accounting firm from Providence?

I just wanted to put this out, think it would be interesting to track this down further. Please do, if you have the time...

Hey Folks,

Get a good look at these vermin because somewhere in there will be at least one, if not two, Massachusetts Senator.

Actually, if you look at the site, it's tied to Groundspring.org - that's all over Buffett's sites (his philant stuff). I thought I'd find Soros, but this appears to be a Buffet thing based on other comments I'm finding ...

and I was scraping up my 130K to get some BRK-A. Not now, Warren. You're losing supporters, buddy.

From "This ain't hell, ..." blog archive:

If you scroll down to the bottom of the IVAW page, you’ll notice where it says “Website funded by Inavale Foundation”. According to Inavale’s 2005 IRS filing (.pdf), their primary officers are William Buffett and Susan Kennedy (about whom I can find nothing on the internet). Inavale’s primary holdings are in Berkshire Hathaway stock (about $15 million worth) - Berkshire Hathaway is Warren Buffett’s holding company. In 2005, over $300,000 was donated to Inavale in B-H stock. In my mind, this links Buffett to IVAW. Inavale also contributes to several liberal causes, such as the ACLU, Human Rights Watch and Jimmy Carter’s Habitat for Humanity.

[Link: thisainthell.us...]

re: #158 brent

[Link: www.pcaobus.org...]

Number of offices 4 (Boston and Westborough,
Massachusetts; Glastonbury,
Connecticut; and Providence,
Rhode Island)
Ownership structure Limited liability partnership
Number of partners 32
Number of professional staff 140
Number of issuer audit clients 24

GONNA NEED
A
BIGGER
SHOVEL,
R

Praising the war without leaving your computer keyboard makes you a patriot.

Opposing the war after serving in it in the U.S. Armed Forces makes you an "evil, lying scumbag."

This is the truth. End the First Amendment.

Pound sand.

These guys keep getting exposed as frauds, and those story dies before ever making a wave. New fraud steps up, is applauded as hero, and those that expose him are labeled as right-wing hate mongerers.

Those of us that have served and or have family that serve think it's important to point out frauds, point out people paying to give frauds money and publicity. We've given up having their stories portrayed honestly.

What's wrong with that free speech?

Opposing liars is not the end of the First Amendment. Many of those at their computer keyboards have served in wartime in the Armed Forces. A few even, in more than one war.

Damn. Didn't mean to be slackin'. I'll rush right out after supper and kill some more babies.
-1LT M.

/sarc, for those too dense to understand
//drunken sailors wouldn't follow JG Kerry to a discount whorehouse
///drive-by from the ER

It's apparent that the msm and the fringes' have been conducting a 'surge' of their own. In an attempt to bring about a socialist, authoritarian government to America they slander and libel anything 'Republican'.
Free market capitalism has become, ever increasingly, socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor.
How can that be possible? It doesn't follow traditional authoritarian movements around the world. Movements toward socialism generally find roots with the poor and grow upwards.But, those roots never found growth in America because of the individualistic rich heritage.
So, the effort has been since the late sixties to in-tangle corporate America in a socialistic web. We have watched the struggle of corporation's in that web for forty years. It seems, however, that large corporation's and even sport franchises have now totally em brassed tax-payer dollars as preferential.
Now, with a liberally-agenda party landslide in the November elections they can complete the last phase of the take over of the American economy.
A win in The wars and a clear fiscally economic argument hoisted by a conservative party could even yet rescue us from this movement. And, drive a spike through the heart of the George Soro's of America.

Exactly, JW...

Jesse McBeth is the best example of this crap - if people like those that post here hadn't jumped all over the obvious crap he was spewing, it would have become folklore in another month.

If tracking down the people that are supporting this group to see if that sheds light on their politics, their motivations, is suppressing free speech, then there must be another definition of free that I don't know.

If I see one more front group of George Soros, Warren Buffett, whoever, passing itself off as a grassroots movement; I will puke. If they are against the war, fine. Yell it from the mountains. If they're supporting liars to make a large point, I'll get up on the mountain next to them and expose the lies.

If it's true, I'll listen - but I'll know it's true when I'm doing so, and I'll have some context to back it up. If I believe all the lies and use that as the backdrop for a smaller truth, then what am I believing if not a pretty lie?

The IVAW are a bunch of stoned morons. The fact the get ANY respect from ANYbody is a mystery to me.

You remember Jesse MacBeth and his parade of lies? This is the same IVAW. They roam from city to city with a old hippie in a bus giving rap shows about how evil America is, and begging for more pot money. Hey, I don't have any beef with potheads, just lying scumbag potheads.

IVAW are a bunch of cowards.

Shocking would be if the MSM starting swiftboating these treasonous groups... but then the MSM won't be able to tell which way the wind is blowing even if there was a mob outside their offices calling for their heads...

"I say Madeline there seems to be a mob outside our offices."

"Really whatever could they mean by 'death to all lying scumbag reporters' I wonder"

"Better call downstairs and send a news crew out to interview them and see who they're burning in effigy"...

I see that 'justiceforall' is dropping little piles of stupid all over this thread too.

re: #171 Charles

Can we change it's nic to "box of rocks"?

DUMBER
THAN,
R

re: #171 Charles

And `justiceforall` has not even a middle-schooler`s understanding of what the First Amendment means. Slept through civics class apparently.

A (female) Diggbat who doesn't know that Baltimore has a Democrat mayor and police chief.

That's a (D).

MORON,
R

re: #161 brent

Thanks for the plug, brent. I went looking for a Soros connection but I only turned up the Buffet connection.

Be sure to keep an eye on my blog tomorrow, I'll be inside the Winter Soldier II proceedings and live blogging from about 9 AM until it ends. Just keeping them honest.

re: #175 Jonn Lilyea

Are you in Maryland?

HERE,
R

I have yet to see any of these IVAW guys who I wouldn't have put out of the Army when I was a commander.

Dirtbags, all.

The evil, lying scumbags

perfect description

re: #176 Render

Always. I'm about 4 miles from where they're having their little theater.

Let's see if I get this right, tens of thousands of US and coalition troops serve in Iraq for 5 years and return with nary a peep of murdering the locals for $hits and giggles but some how a few frauds are exposing the terrible crimes these same tens of thousands committed. Only a demented lefty (I know, I know redundant) would believe these cr@p.

I must've missed out on the atrocities both times I was there in Iraq.

The second time, one of our "combat lifesavers" - basically a Marine who'd had a 1 day course on how to use a med bag and give IVs - patched together an Iraqi who'd been shot through the neck with Quickclot and quick action.

I guess it's less fun to report on frontline combat troops saving lives during sectarian violence than to fabricate lies report about how they've pillaged and plundered.

The Vietnam guys in a lot of cases were not even veterans. Hopefully, we get some credentials on the guys that say they were there-some details on the battles they were in.

I am not against someone voicing their free speech against the war, especially if they actually were there. However, they should tell the truth, and tell the actual facts.

Unfortunately, everyone spins it.

I have never met a soldier that was for fighting a war. They go and do their jobs, follow their orders. They know the sooner that they get the job done, the sooner they get out.

They also have the utmost concern for their fellow soldiers fighting. They never abandon them.

A friend of mine received the MOH in WW2. He never was "for" war, but realized he and his buddies had a job to do. He tried to beat the enemy. Remarkably, he bears no ill will toward the enemy today. They were just doing their jobs, same as the US guys were.

God bless all the American fighting men today. If you are against the war, don't let the idiots spin what you say. Let your message come through. Let us make up our minds on our own.

RE #54

Condolences from me and my family on your loss. And the greatest of "thank yous" to your dad for his service.