How many threads have been for this subject. Gah...hate the media.

Don't worry, Obama will fix it.

/

wow. AP does it's best to eflect

NAME THAT PARTY

As I noted previously, NPR this morning called this a "new record high".

Um, every additional death is a "new record high", you morons.

Nobody DIED on 9/11.

They were killed.

For each and every one of them. May he/she rest in peace.
God keep them.

Damn. I should've trademarked "grim milestone"... they sure get alot of mileage from that phrase.

Had to sit in a hospital waiting area today where CNN was playing. Special graphics for the occasion. Got up and walked outside.

re: #3 jjmckay1216

my bad, wrong thread

/delete me

God Bless the troops, they are doing a superb job!

/stay out of harm's way

I guess we shouldn't have fought in World War II, then, since more of our people died in the war than died at Pearl Harbor. Or something....

Somehow, 4,000 deaths in the course of a five-year conflict seems like cause for celebration--not because of the deaths, which are tragic, but because the level of casualties in this conflict is astoundingly low.

Would that we could have gotten rid of Hitler or Stalin, or toppled the Korean dictatorship or ended the Pol Pot murderfest with a mere 4,000 deaths.

re: #2 laZardo

I'm still not voting for him

Clearly, the best way to honor these dead is to elect an inexperienced empty suit as President, who hangs out with racist weirdos, and to then promptly retreat and surrender, and leave all decent Iraqis to be slaughtered. Every progressive understands this.

Quislings.

re: #4 Occasional Reader

As I noted previously, NPR this morning called this a "new record high".

Um, every additional death is a "new record high", you morons.

thats just not exciting enough.

As I said when I posted this in the Spinoff Links yesterday:

How predictable can an omnipotent left-wing propaganda machine get?

Nobody loves war more than the media.

re: #5 Ben Hur

Nobody DIED on 9/11.

They were killed.

More accurately - they were murdered by Islamic terrorists who hijacked multiple planes with the intent to murder tens of thousands of people at the WTC. Had the towers collapsed at the time of impact, and not 90-120 minutes later, the toll would have been catastrophic.

May the Souls of our Troops rest in the Resurrected Lord
& May the Peace for which they gave up their lives come to pass. Amen

re: #11 Teacherlady

I guess we shouldn't have fought in World War II, then, since more of our people died in the war than died at Pearl Harbor. Or something....

I think we shouldnt be in DC because how many people have been killed there since the war started?

Grim milestone? When will they switch to metric?

Repetition is the MSM's strongest weapon.

I heard a quote from a Pentagon spokesman that I thought was good. It was to the effect of; every member of our armed forces is precious to us, and every death is a loss. But this 4,000 number itself means nothing; this is not a lottery.

Hey Charles, was there any coverage of out grim 5,000,000 milestone watch?

;)

If I want grim Miles tones, I'll listen to some of Davis' later recordings.

I hate the MSM worse than sin itself. What a bunch of offal-eating jackals. When My daughter and I decided to start selling bumperstickers and stuff that slammed the democrats the two main issues we were thinking about were Hillary Clinton getting elected and the mainstream media's attempt to cost us victory in Iraq. Some of our first creations were our V for Victory stickers. Before we got them published the war started going so well that the MSM now has to ignore it to avoid publishing any good news. So we have moved on and added other stuff on other subjects.
My daughter is still sure that the Black Helicopters will come take me away for saying this stuff one of these days.

I wish the media would put this in some perspective and let us see the other side of the tally sheet. I have no idea how many terrorists we have killed. 20,000 50,000, 100,000?
Why isn't this information released anywhere?

I'll just rehash what I said about the 2000 "grim milestone" in '05 and leave it at that:

To you 2000 and any that might fall after you:

I appreciate what your sacrifice means. I know that my way of life and everything I enjoy and take for granted, from power generated using imported oil safeguarded by American military power to the most generous system of laws the world has ever known right on to my personal safety in my home under the rule of law, is all possible because of a long green line called the American military.

I write to you as a man whom no army would have and who, by disposition, would make the worst of soldiers, discipline and respect for authority are simply alien concepts to me. But I am someone who has read hundreds of books of history and biographies and I know more than just something of military history. I know what I have and am grateful for it; I am grateful to you, because without you, my life would be incomparably worse.

I salute you 2000 as fallen liberators who did what all the experts said could not be done- you smashed an evil regime in less than forty days, the greatest generals of American history can all look upon you as the embodiment of the army that began at Lexington and Concord. I salute you for fighting a humane war. I salute you for doing something rare in military history, falling in the field of battle so an enemy civilian might not have to die. Not only is what you fought for more valuable than anything our enemies have to offer, you proved the worthlessness of our enemies' ideas by fighting nobly and with honor.

I salute you for fighting the toughest kind of war, a guerrilla combat, against a foe that hides among civilians. I salute you for proving every single "media expert" wrong, from the number of civilian casualties, to your ability to fight in cities without massive casualties and the fact that when the Iraqi people waved their purple fingers in the air, they validated everything you fight for and proved once again that you fight as liberators and not colonists.

I salute your injured comrades. I know that some have suffered wounds that will make them even less suited for combat than I am. After leading young and healthy lives, they will be reminded every day of what they sacrificed on the field of honor by their very day to day existence. I salute their families and loved ones who will have to deal with their suffering every day. I personally know of such suffering and would wish it on no one.

And I salute your fellow soldiers. I salute them for the having the same courage and honor as the dead and the injured. Far away from families and living in harsh conditions, many will carry the deaths and suffering of their comrades in arms as bitter memories and lifelong psychological wounds.

All I can give you is my support and these words. All I can do is tell America a simple truth: only winning this war can make such sacrifice worthwhile. Only marching out of Iraq as liberating victors hailed for delivering a nation to freedom and giving hope to all who endure tyranny on this earth can make any of this war worthwhile. Let the fear that you might march again cause dictators for 100 years to fear what you did to Saddam, his evil regime and their terrorist allies.

To the fallen, rest now. No one will ever honor me the way I will honor you; few will remember me but hundreds of years from now, you will be remembered and treasured as great. You have entered history and your deeds and courage are immortal.

re: #19 lawhawk

More accurately - they were murdered by Islamic terrorists who hijacked multiple planes with the intent to murder tens of thousands of people at the WTC. Had the towers collapsed at the time of impact, and not 90-120 minutes later, the toll would have been catastrophic.

Over 10K definately. Its a good thing the feds are soo incompetant and rove didnt realize that they needed bigger explosions to bring the towers down right away.

Good news:

Trinity has set up a "Resurrection Fund." Send lots of money now!

He offered no additional specifics about the fund, telling churchgoers he didn’t want to get into it because Trinity is streaming the service live on the Web and the services are available for purchase on DVD.

shhhhh. They're watching.

re: #20 Lobosan5

May the Souls of our Troops rest in the Resurrected Lord
& May the Peace for which they gave up their lives come to pass. Amen

Amen

re: #12 buzzsawmonkey,

Remember when the Battle of Bagdhad was supposed to be the next Stalingrad? We've actually done amazingly well in this war. Every time we win a victory, though, the L³eftists in the Media just move the goal posts.

re: #27 redshirt

I wish the media would put this in some perspective and let us see the other side of the tally sheet. I have no idea how many terrorists we have killed. 20,000 50,000, 100,000?
Why isn't this information released anywhere?

silly redshirt, we are only killing civilians.

"Milestone."

How very ethnocentric of them.

The fact that we have citizens volunteering for military service knowing that they are going to war is what gives stateside Americans real HOPE for our country. That's a bright future that cuts through the Marxist propaganda bureaus like a laser and it's why the Left is invested in defeat.

Grim milestone my reflective Whitey ASS! Resolve Milestone, beeeyotch!

And Iraq is not a "war."

We are not fighting Iraq.

Any articles on the not dead because Saddam is gone?

Any articles on the not dead because the bad guys are focused on Iraq and not here and elsewhere?

Any articles on the ratio of liberate people to Soldiers who gave the last full measure?

Any articles on the historically low rate of combat deaths in this conflict.

Didn't think so.

4000 is a number without context.

Means nothing to me what the MSM enjoys about the deaths of our Brave Troops, everytime one of them fall they take a part of me with them, and I have many parts to go, because those parts are the Love I have for them! Brave Men are guarding the streets of Heaven!

Every lie the media tell is another 'grim milestone'.

re: #35 Sol Roth

The fact that we have citizens volunteering for military service knowing that they are going to war is what gives stateside Americans real HOPE for our country. That's a bright future that cuts through the Marxist propaganda bureaus like a laser and it's why the Left is invested in defeat.

Grim milestone my reflective Whitey ASS! Resolve Milestone, beeeyotch!

It's because they have no other options, being minorities and po' white folk from the Appalachians.

Patriotism has nothing to do with it.

/LLL

Wasn't Grim Milestone a death metal band from Norway? These guys would know...

re: #40 Ben Hur

tried to find you on the tube yesterday but no luck.

“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast

general sherman

re: #36 Ben Hur

And Iraq is not a "war."

We are not fighting Iraq.

THANK YOU! I patiently remind the moonbats I encounter that:

1) We are not occupying Iraq. We are there at the inviation of the democratically-elected government to help them maintain peace.

2) We are not fighting Iraq. We are fighting those, often foreign, who are the terrorists trying to destabilize that government.

re: #32 Iron Fist

Remember when the Battle of Bagdhad was supposed to be the next Stalingrad? We've actually done amazingly well in this war. Every time we win a victory, though, the L³eftists in the Media just move the goal posts.

The Leftist standard was first promulgated in jest by Groucho Marx in Horse Feathers; "Whatever it is, I'm against it." It is difficult for any form of objective truth to fight against opposition that reform, like a giant amoeba, into any shape. The fight against such opposition is sort of like a Thirteenth Labor of Hercules.

After a quick search, I find that approximately 40,000 people are killed each year in highway accidents, That would be 200,000 Americans killed on roads since the start of the war. Perhaps we should pull out of the roads as well.
I'm sure that women and children were the hardest hit as well.

re: #18 Ben Hur

Nobody loves our enemies more than the media.

Adjusted.

God bless each and every one of them. We shall not forget them, or their sacrifice, and I promise to work for their goals to become a reality. That being said, the number is so low that it is possibly statistically comparable to the average number of deaths in the same time period for the same number of people (about 160,000), and could in fact be lower. Someone might want to look in to that. As a comparison, 5,000 people died in training for the D-Day invasion.

Hey everyone, the kid becomes a USMC recruiter next month probably going to upper midwest (is that vague enough?) Your support will mean a lot.

Also, he said that with the fire bombing and protests, if it does come to a civil war "we'll win."

4000 Deaths = Liberal Porn

re: #10 Lively

God Bless the troops, they are doing a superb job!

/stay out of harm's way

Ditto.

As for the video, with the exception of the first few seconds, it is a moving tribute to those we've lost over there. To me, that's what's important, that we remember our troops.

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

The fight against such opposition is sort of like a Thirteenth Labor of Hercules.

Labors of Hercules sounds like another great Heavy Metal band name.

/Don't know why I seem to have reactionary Metal references on the brain this morning....

Last night I watched our troops recalling 5 years later what they've accomplished in Iraq on Ollie North's series "War Stories."

Bless them each & every one, the quick and the dead, for sacrificing to make others free, as Abraham Lincoln directed American citizens to do, and as have other great American Presidents called us to do.

re: #49 Eowyn2

Good luck to him. That has to be a particularly thankless job these days.

A grim statistic but a milestone ? Most of us hear milestone and we think of an accomplishment ... The only people that should consider 4,000 dead Americans a milestone are the terrorists ...

Time to make the donuts. Good day y'all.

Michael Moore is a tick, feeding off the blood of our brave troops.

re: #32 Iron Fist

Remember when the Battle of Bagdhad was supposed to be the next Stalingrad?

"Baghdad is an impenetrable fortress"

--Robert Fisk

bwaaahahahaha

OT:

Just wanted to drop a note stating I hope I didn't offend any Christian (or Jewish) lizards for that matter with my little Easter send-up I posted on the early morning thread. At the time, I was blithely unaware of the "Easter Thread" tumult, and certainly didn't want to pour gas on its smoldering remains.

re: #58 Occasional Reader

"Baghdad is an impenetrable fortress"

--Robert Fisk

bwaaahahahaha

The only impenetrable fortress is the skull blocking passage of ideas into the leftwing brain.

Remember Me!

One other report from the crowd in the Hospital waiting room. CNN actually played a section of the racist reverends "chickens coming home to roost" little rant. The sound level jumped 20 dbs for the next minute. The 'average Pennsylvania white people' in the room are not pleased with Obama.

re: #58 Occasional Reader

"Baghdad is an impenetrable fortress"

--Robert Fisk

bwaaahahahaha

Baghdad Bob, "There are no Americans in Baghdad."
Clearly audible in the background a .50 Cal firing.

I'd like to have Hillary or Obamessiah speak about the 4,000 daily abortions that happen in America with some kind of rational logic.

Michael Moore is a fat slob!

Good article at Power Line this morning. George is doing much better with the public than the MSM would have you believe.

Does Everyone Hate President Bush?

re: #64 moe_tieff

good point, indeed.

re: #58 Occasional Reader

Ya I remember Fisk. When they reported he got beat by some islamic sheepheads I was close to cheering. Impregnable fortress! he wouldn't know it if you pulled it out of his butt!

Reminder to anyone who prefers reason, and facts to hysteria:
Ten costliest battles of the Civil War
[Link: www.civilwarhome.com...]
Sample: First two bloodiest:
Gettysburg:July 1-3, 1863
3 Days of battle.
Casualties: 51,112

Battle of Chicamauga
September 12-20, 1863
2 days of battle
Casualities: 34,624

re: #64 moe_tieff

I'd like to have Hillary or Obamessiah speak about the 4,000 daily abortions that happen in America with some kind of rational logic.

Welcome to LGF, that particular subject is one by request of the Boss Lizard and mutual consent of Lizardom is one best avoided.

So, where do they give the number of people Saddam killed? Why do I think it is much more than 4000?

I challenge CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC to dedicate and entire news hour or two (without commercial interruption) and read the names of each soldier who has given their lives in this war - just like they did after 1000 soldiers had died. After all, the 4000th death is no less sorrowful and, by no means, less meaningful than the 1000th. Or will it go to show that the MSM and its left-wing ilk are no more than opportunist who mark occasions like this as if it had been a countdown to some home run record being broken (Bonds at 60, 61, 62 now, . . . any day he will pass that milestone).

War is an undisputed hell and our brave soldiers know that. Keeping track on a daily basis like a child awaiting Christmas does no more than serve the feel-good minds of the MSM.

Imagine the media's reaction to Antietam.

The battle was over by 5:30 p.m. Losses for the day were heavy on both sides. The Union had 12,401 casualties with 2,108 dead. Confederate casualties were 10,318 with 1,546 dead. This represented 25% of the Federal force and 31% of the Confederate.[51] More Americans died on September 17, 1862, than on any other day in the nation's military history, including World War II's D-Day and the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Has Michael Moore ever once said anything positive about our soldiers' contributions in Iraq?

Has Michael Moore ever distinguished between the advantages and disadvantages of the War in Iraq?

I have a strange feeling, though, that he could clearly enunciate the advantages of getting the Double Whopper w/ Cheese versus the Bacon Double Cheeseburger at Burger King.