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UN Israel Monitor Calls for Investigation of Neocons' Role in 9/11

Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:03:56 am PDT

You knew the United Nations was corrupt and evil, but the story of Richard Falk really takes the all-time prize. This lunatic must be dismissed from his UN position: U.N. Official Calls for Study Of Neocons’ Role in 9/11.

WASHINGTON — A new U.N. Human Rights Council official assigned to monitor Israel is calling for an official commission to study the role neoconservatives may have played in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

On March 26, Richard Falk, Milbank professor of international law emeritus at Princeton University, was named by unanimous vote to a newly created position to report on human rights in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. While Mr. Falk’s specialty is human rights and international law, since the attacks in 2001, he has devoted some of his time to challenging what he calls the “9-11 official version.”

On March 24 in an interview with a radio host and former University of Wisconsin instructor, Kevin Barrett, Mr. Falk said, “It is possibly true that especially the neoconservatives thought there was a situation in the country and in the world where something had to happen to wake up the American people. Whether they are innocent about the contention that they made that something happen or not, I don’t think we can answer definitively at this point. All we can say is there is a lot of grounds for suspicion, there should be an official investigation of the sort the 9/11 commission did not engage in and that the failure to do these things is cheating the American people and in some sense the people of the world of a greater confidence in what really happened than they presently possess.”

Mr. Barrett, who is the co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth, said in an interview yesterday of Mr. Falk, “I would put him on a list of scholars who are sympathetic to the 9/11 truth movement.”

Nothing the UN does can surprise me any more, but this is disgusting almost beyond belief.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:05:06am
2 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:05:08am
but this is disgusting almost beyond belief.

Verily.

3 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:03am

Mr. Barrett, who is the co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth,

4 jamgarr  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:04am

“It is possibly true that especially the neoconservatives thought there was a situation in the country and in the world where something had to happen to wake up the American people. Whether they are innocent about the contention that they made that something happen or not, I don’t think we can answer definitively at this point. All we can say is there is a lot of grounds for suspicion, there should be an official investigation of the sort the 9/11 commission did not engage in and that the failure to do these things is cheating the American people and in some sense the people of the world of a greater confidence in what really happened than they presently possess.”

A grammarian this guy is not.

5 phoenixgirl  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:06am

i can't handle the troofers

6 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:14am

If you can't be a troofer in the UN, where else do you go?

7 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:28am
8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:50am

Can we kick the UN out of the USA now?

9 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:07:53am

re: #3 BabbaZee

Mr. Barrett, who is the co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth,

Videos

10 phoenixgirl  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:08:04am

re: #7 song_and_dance_man

Ron Paul's legs must be tingling.

did he wet himself?/

11 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:08:11am

Surprised it took this long.

12 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:08:13am

Is this even getting covered by the MSM?

When will Condi or Bush *do* something?

[Link: news.google.com...]

Only secondary stuff in the US, it seems.

W
T
F

13 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:08:54am

This is beyond words. [what fools these mortals be? maybe]

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:09:14am
15 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:09:21am
On March 26, Richard Falk, Milbank Milhous professor of international law emeritus at Princeton University, was named by unanimous vote to a newly created position to report on human rights in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. While Mr. Falk’s specialty is human rights and international law, since the attacks in 2001, he has devoted some of his time to challenging what he calls the “9-11 official version.”

Fixed.

HA HA!

/nelson muntz

16 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:09:53am

If Israel lets this bum in the country, they are out of their minds. Is Princeton trying to make a run at Columbia for most Left Wing Anti-Semitic Ivy league University?

17 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:00am
18 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:14am

You just can't make this shit up.

19 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:19am

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Can we kick the UN out of the USA now?

Fine by me, but I'd rather we stand up there and make a case, throw some weight around. Has Dubya gone totally to sleep? Have the Saudis bought him out for the next eight months? Just askin', y'know. And I will ask again, where is McCain? Much less Hilda/Bambi?

20 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:29am

Bet he believes that the Holocaust was a Zionist plot.

21 EC Marm  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:35am

Muckin' foran. He's probably pulling double six figures somewhere, but he's still an idiot.

22 phoenixgirl  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:37am

re: #17 song_and_dance_man

Probably, and it wasn't pee.

oh dear!

23 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:39am

At the Nuclear Precipice: Nuclear Weapons and the Abandonment of International Law 2006

International Law Symposium – Public Forum
Thursday, February 23, 2006

Speaker: Dr. Richard Falk


[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

24 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:43am

Milbank professor of international law emeritus at Princeton University, yet the moron doesn't know that Bush isn't a "Neo-con?"

25 FreakyBoy  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:52am

He's appointed Charlie Sheen as an honorable at-large UN ambassador for Troof.

26 Shug  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:53am
the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth

based out Creedmore State Hospital

27 ctrlL  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:10:57am

"something had to happen to wake up the American people"

and it has.

Please say "thank you" to Little Green Footballs.

*take a bow, Charles*

28 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:04am

What would it take to get this guy bounced out on his ass?

I mean actual political activity, e-mail, what is the procedure.

LET'S DO IT!

29 pat  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:15am

Anther dangerous twit, living in a made-up world.

30 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:21am
31 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:24am

What part of Osama bin Laden's admission and claimed credit for the 9/11 attacks in the name of Islamic jihad do you not understand Falk? Or KSM's admissions of playing the key role in developing the plot to attack the US on 9/11?

Or the jihad wages by al Qaeda and affiliated groups for years before the 9/11 attacks.

Or what about the 1993 WTC bombing, whose spiritual leader was a member of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad (funny but so was Zawahiri) which inspired the jihadis to attack the US and the WTC in particular on 9/11.

The jihadis have had a hard-on for attacking the US since well before anyone even uttered the phrase neocon.

/watching the blood pressure to avoid redlining...

32 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:25am
33 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:35am

Oh, good -- Harry Potter and Narcissistic Nan are telling Bush how to support "our troops."

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:35am
35 vxbush  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:11:37am

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

You just can't make this shit up.

You could, but no one would believe you.

36 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:12:10am
37 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:12:24am

re: #14 song_and_dance_man

Where are the human rights officials to monitor Palestinian terrorist behavior and issue daily statements to outline every attempt for terrorists to kill and maim Israelis?

Of course, they'll focus on Israel's defensive retaliation.

38 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:12:46am

Calling all Princeton alumni, now is the time for all good alumni to come to the aid of Western Civilization!

Also calling all decent international law practitioners to denounce this person's position.

Bill Richardson the governor of New Mexico was our UN Ambassador, can these Clinton alumni ever HELP their country, or exert themselves in time of war they in effect let start on their watch?

39 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:12:58am

The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America
By David Horowitz

Richard Falk

40 warlock  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:05am

Just going to look at neoconservatives, eh? Not going to look at al-quedia or the kos kooks or anyone else? Maybe it is a smear job. Just letting it out that the neoconservatives are under suspicion for an atrocity is what his goal is here.

I would like to know what mail-order service gave that Wisconson brainless pinhead a Ph.D.?

41 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:05am
42 the jinxmedic  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:11am

re: #9 BabbaZee

Videos

I took a look at this site, it really really looks like a satire page.

The sad thing is, it's not.

Viva La Change! The Troof is out there! Ron Paul!

43 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:29am

I think we should house the UN in the top floors of the new Freedom Tower.

44 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:40am

I might get deleted for this, but if Al Qaeda manages to crash a plane into a building again, I hope it is the UN. While Falk is there.
Why they'd want to attack the UN when it is doing so much for Muslims, I don't know, but I can hope.

The UN should be thrown out of the US.

45 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:43am

re: #28 WriterMom

What would it take to get this guy bounced out on his ass?

I mean actual political activity, e-mail, what is the procedure.

I'd say we'd have to wake up the official US representatives, Bush, Condi, Zalmay Khalilzad (our ambassador to the UN, no less).

Other than that, my suggestions are not postable.

46 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:13:55am

This is the UN that fled with its tail between its legs after ONE bombing in Iraq.

47 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:00am

Bad craziness.

Princeton alums... are you watching this? Vote with your dollars.

48 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:02am
49 FriarsTale  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:06am

hey, c'mon, what do we care, so long as we don't pay for it?
I mean, it's not like our tax dollars fund the UN, right?

/right...?

50 Bubblehead II  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:24am

Isn't this is the same guy Israel has refused a visa to because he compared them to Nazi Germany?

51 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:27am

Richard Falk

Professor Emeritus of International Law and Practice at Princeton University and Distinguished Visiting Professor at the University of California at Santa Barbara.

Was Albert G. Milbank Professor of International Law and Practise, Princeton University, a prolific writer, speaker and activist of world affairs and the author or co-author of more than 20 books, among them "Crimes of War", "Revolutionaries and Functionaries", "The War System", "A Study of Future Worlds", "The End of World Order", Revitalizing International Law", "Nuclear Weapons and International Law" and "On Human Governance". Founding member of IALANA and of the World Order Models Project, WOMP.

Professor Falk became an adviser to TFF when it was established in 1985.

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:39am

How? Just how do they expect me to respond to this. I have tried to clean up my language on not use the f-bomb.

So, I am going to open MS word for a few minutes...bbl

53 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:54am

re: #50 Bubblehead II

Isn't this is the same guy Israel has refused a visa to because he compared them to Nazi Germany?

Yes.

54 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:57am

re: #15 Ward Cleaver

No, Falk is Martin Prince. That way, we get to hang him upside down and pelt him with tomatoes.

55 laZardo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:14:59am

Mr. Kevin "No Rest For The Wicked" Barrett?

Good thing the boys at SLC are also on the case...

56 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:01am

The "9/11 truth" disease is spreading like crabs in Berkeley squat.

They have hundreds of websites and clubs. They host parties and meet at coffee houses.

They even have websites for singles to meet other twoofers.

It's become a life-style choice, kind of like being a furry....except that twoofers are far more degenerate than furries.

57 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:02am

Richard Falk sounds like a falking asshole to me.

58 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:19am

If Bush had balls he'd cram this straight down the UN's throat, and refuse to pay our dues (which make up nearly half of the UN's operating budget) until this cretin is removed. It would also beautifully force trooferism out of the media blackout that seems to surround it, and force the lefty candidates to have either a Sister Souljah moment and denounce trooferism, or embrace it and watch their party burn.

But Bush has no balls. This we know. He hasn't had anything resembling a testicle in 3 years.

59 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:20am

re: #23 BabbaZee

At the Nuclear Precipice: Nuclear Weapons and the Abandonment of International Law 2006

International Law Symposium – Public Forum
Thursday, February 23, 2006

Speaker: Dr. Richard Falk


[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

Isn't this what Obama has been saying? He's the Manchurian candidate, or maybe the Mecca-nian candidate.

60 pat  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:36am

Neocon=Jew

61 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:44am

re: #9 BabbaZee

Videos


From the article:

The April issue of Tikkun magazine includes an article on how the technique of nonviolent communication can facilitate peace efforts. Could these methods enhance 9/11 truth outreach?

Tikkun and their brethren are Jews who hate Israel, who've allied with other left-wing Israel haters. Good catch, Babba.

62 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:46am
63 Terp Mole  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:50am

I'm sorry, but not since Princeton Professor Peter Singer explained that we should give as good as we get from dogs who hump our legs, have I been so exasperated with the way pseudo-intellectual 9/11 Troofers think they should use their head for a colonoscopy and then crab-walk across the public stage of wacademia expecting folks to think their new hats make them look smart.

And, as with Professor Singer's efforts to get pet stores to carry Viagra, I think most Americans will have a very hard time taking Dick Falk seriously; because I'm not sure taking him seriously helps anybody.

64 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:15:57am

"Whether they are innocent about the contention that they made that something happen or not, I don’t think we can answer definitively at this point. All we can say is there is a lot of grounds for suspicion, there should be an official investigation of the sort the 9/11 commission did not engage in and that the failure to do these things is cheating the American people and in some sense the people of the world of a greater confidence in what really happened than they presently possess.”

Look bud;
1) There is a presumption of innocence in this country: accusation does not equate to or even imply guilt.
2) Because of (1) if you have accusations to make then name those whom you accuse and make your case, coherently if at all possible.
3) If you cannot follow through on (2) then STFU

65 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:05am

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

Was it yesterday or the day before that had a thread about the Holocaust being a Zionist plot?

66 bulwrk  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:12am

If we ever do throw the U.N. out of the country the toxic cleanup of the site would take years.

67 sawth  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:17am

Unwanted
Nuisance

nuff said.

68 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:22am
69 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:22am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How? Just how do they expect me to respond to this. I have tried to clean up my language on not use the f-bomb.

So, I am going to open MS word for a few minutes...bbl

Just use his name in the appropriate way: Falking asshole; Falk you, Falk; Falk is Falked up; etc.

Works well, and you avoid the F-word at the same time.

70 vxbush  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:31am

re: #44 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, but they would never do it, as the UN helps them so much.

71 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:34am
72 RadicalRon  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:43am

Where's this lunatic been?

The Koslings investigated this years ago. They did such a thorough job that the little kooky kult kommandante has decreed that the subject is now closed.

Sort of — more or less.

73 Susanl  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:51am

Nothing that the UN does that is anti-US surprises me any more. I am beginning to truly understand that if something doesn't change soon, we are seeing the end of Western Civilization. You know how the news says "if it bleeds, it leads"? Well, I think their new meme is " if it is white (western), it just isn't right".

How stupid do people have to be to believe that a conspiracy of that magnitude could NOT be kept secret. Especially in this day and age. Someone would sell out, if not for the money, for the "15-minutes".

ARGH!

74 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:54am

re: #59 Kosh's Shadow

We are at war here, no one realizes it.

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:55am
76 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:16:57am

How can this NOT embarrass Princeton U?

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:17:16am
78 Kyle_st  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:17:29am

Listen, Mr. Falk is a "scholar" -- "I would put him on a list of scholars who are sympathetic to the 9/11 truth movement.

That is all the little people like us need to know.

79 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:17:36am

the precious and delicate eternal victim holy Islamofascists had nothing to do with 9/11. no no.
It was the Jews and Dick cheney and the CIA and the dreaded - Neocons.

/the only reality that works for the mentally ill, ignorant left.

80 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:17:56am

re: #56 Ringo the Gringo

The "9/11 truth" disease is spreading like crabs in Berkeley squat.

They have hundreds of websites and clubs. They host parties and meet at coffee houses.

They even have websites for singles to meet other twoofers.
It's become a life-style choice, kind of like being a furry....except that twoofers are far more degenerate than furries.

They're breeding?

81 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:05am

re: #31 lawhawk

What part of Osama bin Laden's admission and claimed credit for the 9/11 attacks in the name of Islamic jihad do you not understand Falk? Or KSM's admissions of playing the key role in developing the plot to attack the US on 9/11?

Or the jihad wages by al Qaeda and affiliated groups for years before the 9/11 attacks.

Or what about the 1993 WTC bombing, whose spiritual leader was a member of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad (funny but so was Zawahiri) which inspired the jihadis to attack the US and the WTC in particular on 9/11.

The jihadis have had a hard-on for attacking the US since well before anyone even uttered the phrase neocon.

/watching the blood pressure to avoid redlining...

* * *

Since EIJ with Al Zawahiri murdered Sadat in Egypt, these terrorists have felt empowered to continue trying to overthrow the US and Israel, with Carterite democrats leading the way. Now they are a fifth column trying to topple the US & Israel, with OUR tax dollars, at our universities, in our public schools.

82 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:10am

re: #77 song_and_dance_man

bingo

83 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:12am

re: #61 Golem Akbar

Tikkun and their brethren are Jews who hate Israel, who've allied with other left-wing Israel haters. Good catch, Babba.

And one of the anti-Israel guys posting on the Obama site is a Uncle Chom Tikkunnik too

84 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:22am
85 CapeCoddah  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:25am

re: #18 Ward Cleaver
Who would WANT to make this shit up,, Do they stand outside state hospitals and offer these jobs to nuts being released? How do this many screwball maniacs make it to the positions they. I hope Israel does let this jackass in, and then no one ever hears from him again.

86 deseeded  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:39am

I can't wait until Al Gore links the 9/11 terror attacks with global warming and blames them on us bad Americans driving SUVs....because without SUVs, we'd not need to use oil from the middle east. Therefore, because we drive cars and trucks, we promote terrorism and that lead to 9/11. You know, which produced a crazy carbon footprint that needs to be offset by at least $4000 per man, woman, and child in America.

87 the jinxmedic  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:41am

re: #62 buzzsawmonkey

Tupperware troofers?

88 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:43am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How? Just how do they expect me to respond to this. I have tried to clean up my language on not use the f-bomb.

So, I am going to open MS word for a few minutes...bbl

It's almost impossible to describe Richard Falk without cursing, but I found a way: Richard Falk is the south end of a northbound horse.

89 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:18:50am

The Truthers just can't stand the truth. [I don't care what you say, the world is flat dammit]

90 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:19:08am

re: #75 buzzsawmonkey

Some idiot is always claiming that having the Nazis wipe out the Jews of Europe was a clever manipulation by the Jews of Israel to get control of the land.

That would make Machiavelli hurl.

91 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:19:31am

re: #72 RadicalRon

Where's this lunatic been?

The Koslings investigated this years ago. They did such a thorough job that the little kooky kult kommandante has decreed that the subject is now closed.

Sort of — more or less.

Only when Markos stomps on it because he doesn't want his website known for the troofers who inhabit it. Every so often a diary (diarrhea?) slips out and gets commented on and agreed with until Markos decides it needs to go down the memory hole.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:19:43am

re: #69 Honorary Yooper

Just use his name in the appropriate way: Falking asshole; Falk you, Falk; Falk is Falked up; etc.

Works well, and you avoid the F-word at the same time.

Ok, I'll try.

I hope you are proud of yourself, Mr Falk. You may not be a bad person, but, Mr. Falk, I am terribly dissapointed that you have taken this postion. I feel very bad for you Mr. Falk.

I tried...really don't feel any better. Going back to Word.

93 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:19:47am

re: #77 song_and_dance_man

bingo

No, that would be Christians!

Get it?

Bingo night at the Church?!?!?!

No?

ok.

:(

94 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:19:48am

I would find it a lot more plausible that the UN was behind 9/11, or at least knew about it and did nothing.

95 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:20:05am
96 Ezekiel2517  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:20:09am

Go on, explain to us how the evil JOOISH NEOCONS convinced 19 jew-hating arabs to kill themselves in attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.

97 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:20:44am

re: #86 deseeded

I can't wait until Al Gore links the 9/11 terror attacks with global warming and blames them on us bad Americans driving SUVs....because without SUVs, we'd not need to use oil from the middle east. Therefore, because we drive cars and trucks, we promote terrorism and that lead to 9/11. You know, which produced a crazy carbon footprint that needs to be offset by at least $4000 per man, woman, and child in America.

DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!

98 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:20:58am
99 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:01am

re: #19 itellu3times

I agree. It's time to cut off all funds and all support until there is a fundamental reform. The thing is, fundamental reform is not going to happen.

The current mindset and efforts hijack the UN towards petty political aims and agenda's around progressive fascism. Far too many petty thugs and nations have powers in the UNGA that exceed any power they may realistically possess not to mention the fact that the UN grants them rights that those nations frequently deny their own citizens.

So, we cut them off. We throw our financial weight around and deny them the funds that they use to further crap like this. We have to stay committed to this and ultimately if there is no reform, then we need to acknowledge and accept that the UN has followed the League of Nations into irrelevance and failure followed by the IMF and World Bank.

100 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:31am

re: #96 Ezekiel2517

Go on, explain to us how the evil JOOISH NEOCONS convinced 19 jew-hating arabs to kill themselves in attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.

They weren't Arabs? They were Jews?

101 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:38am

re: #80 MandyManners

They're breeding?

Of course not. They are childless by choice because it's such a hassle to drag a stroller to a protest. Plus, babies really hate wearing hemp diapers.

102 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:39am

Richard A. Falk is
[snip]
He is also a member of the World Federalist Institute.[3] .

103 Shug  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:46am
WASHINGTON — A new U.N. Human Rights Council official assigned to monitor Islam is calling for an official commission to study the role Saudi Arabia may have played in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

/In My world

104 zmdavid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:51am

re: #68 BabbaZee

World Order Models Project, WOMP


Obammunist!

WOMP, wasn't that the computer from Wargames?
/I know it was WOPR, just similar initials

105 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:54am

re: #98 song_and_dance_man

The UN is part of the Great Whore.

I think it's the heart and mind of the Great Whore.

106 bulwrk  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:21:56am

re: #98 song_and_dance_man

The UN is part of the Great Whore.

107 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:00am

What a mother falker. :-)

108 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:06am
109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:07am

re: #95 BabbaZee

re: #97 MandyManners

Thank goodness you two are here. Could you please let a blue streak fly for me?

110 mj  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:29am

Perhaps Falk would want all Jewish "neo-cons" to wear yellow stars.

111 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:34am

re: #101 doppelganglander

Of course not. They are childless by choice because it's such a hassle to drag a stroller to a protest. Plus, babies really hate wearing hemp diapers.

The women probably get those shots every three months.

112 Terp Mole  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:54am

Elsewhere in BDS wacademia;

LSU: Trip to White House misses point

This past Monday, our University football team met with President Bush at the White House... to have an audience with Bush and not publicly call attention to the continuing plight of our neighbors in New Orleans or protest the daily deaths in Iraq is irresponsible.
=====
Silently sitting back or glad-handing for photo opportunities affirms President Bush and everything he has done. Holding up his LSU jersey, he is one of us.

But he is not.

People are hurting, angry, and too many of them are dying. We need to stop it.

When Tigers have an audience with the President, I hope they are free and bold enough to represent all of Tiger Nation and stand up for our brothers and sisters hurting in New Orleans, Iraq, Afghanistan, and everywhere.

Jeremy C. Garland
Analyst, Office of Computing Services

/gaze

113 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:22:56am

re: #95 BabbaZee

Don't ever put a link to that group again!

Or I will make you drink BONG WATER!

And then I'll break the damn bong!

114 Ben-Ami  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:06am

I really am confused here. Presumably, people are nominated for positions on UN committees through their countries of allegiance; I mean, it's the United Nations, not the United Citizens of the World. How on earth did this, er, person get the US to put him up for this body? What is the government thinking?

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:13am

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #97 MandyManners

Thank goodness you two are here. Could you please let a blue streak fly for me?

Hey, don't worry about it. Think this says it all for me...

116 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:19am
117 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:20am

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Lies repeated often enough eventually become perceived as the truth.

118 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:26am

re: #102 BabbaZee

Richard A. Falk is
[snip]
He is also a member of the World Federalist Institute.[3] .

Oh, a OWG guy.

119 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:40am

The good news is that BILL CLINTON was behind the first bombing in '93.

120 Ben-Ami  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:44am

re: #60 pat

Neocon=Jew

That's what I'm afraid this decodes as...

121 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:23:47am

re: #113 Ben Hur

Don't ever put a link to that group again!

Or I will make you drink BONG WATER!

And then I'll break the damn bong!

It is to show who this MFer is Judah.

122 Tumulus11  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:03am
'A new U.N. Human Rights Council official assigned to monitor Israel is calling for an official commission to study the role neoconservatives may have played in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.'


. The United Nations must remove this diseased troll immediately. Then, they must apologize to the State of Israel and to the United States for their own recklessness in appointing him.

123 kaymichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:08am

I the 'troofer' movement brings about an investigation that exposes the criminal negligence of the politically correct careerists that allowed 9-11 to happen - then I am all for it.

Instead of finding those culpable for negligence, we have given AWARDS to these people who cared more about their own career than cared about stopping terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Pathetic.

I'd like to see some stuff exposed - and see some career opportunists fired. As far as I have read, no one was fired for 9-11. Pathetic!

124 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:12am

re: #110 mj

Wonder what he'll make the 'neocons' wear?

125 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:14am

re: #121 BabbaZee

It is to show who this MFer is Judah.

It's pretty obvious.

126 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:24am

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #97 MandyManners

Thank goodness you two are here. Could you please let a blue streak fly for me?

It's gotta' come from no where. A planned one just doesn't sound right.

127 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:50am

re: #110 mj

Perhaps Falk would want all Jewish "neo-cons" to wear yellow stars.

I AM SPARTACUS.

128 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:24:57am

Ending the Death Dance
by RICHARD FALK

They know exactly who he is
it is WHY they appointed him!

129 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:06am

re: #120 Ben-Ami

That's what I'm afraid this decodes as...


They have never denied it.

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:10am

re: #126 MandyManners

It's gotta' come from no where. A planned one just doesn't sound right.

Yeah, but play this...perfect.

131 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:11am

re: #125 Ben Hur

It's pretty obvious.

To you
not to all

132 Bearster  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:20am

Au contraire, Charles! What needs to be dismissed is the UN from any participation by the US! The nature of the UN is to be a corrupt group that helps mass-murdering dictatorships get away with it. To this evil end, they get our money, real estate, and troops.

The most important thing they get from us is our moral sanction. Without us, it would be much harder for them to maintain the fiction that they are about peace and human rights.

133 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:36am

re: #66 bulwrk

If we ever do throw the U.N. out of the country the toxic cleanup of the site would take years.

Well, we gotta start sometime or other. Why not now?

134 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:52am

I guess we can scratch Princeton off the list of "superior" universities. Better the kiddo should go to community college than a communist idiot-ridden rathole that gives house room to idiots the like of Falk.

BTW, how soon is it we can get the UN out of NY?

135 CapeCoddah  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:25:55am

re: #66 bulwrk
What a day that will be, when the US is so fed up with not only hosting, but supporting financially this lipstick on a pig organization. They take our money, lots of it, they take up extremely valuable space in Manhattan, and they do nothing but tell us how horrible we are. Why doesn't someone suggest the corrupt pygmy in Venezuela
host them.

136 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:01am

re: #66 bulwrk

If we ever do throw the U.N. out of the country the toxic cleanup of the site would take years.

* * *
Think how much greener & cleaner the planet would be, if they were housed in a hut somewhere else, or in John Edwards' palatial mansion.

137 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:08am

Respect Democracy? Engage Hamas
Richard Falk

You think Jimmah going there is a coinkydink?

138 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:12am

Obama Dusts Off White Racist Grandmother For TV Ad

What half of his family is missing from this ad, and why?

139 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:22am
140 SpringheelJack  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:35am
It is possibly true that especially the neoconservatives thought there was a situation in the country and in the world where something had to happen to wake up the American people. Whether they are innocent about the contention that they made that something happen or not, I don’t think we can answer definitively at this point.


He's good at issuing statements with zero actual semantic content.

It's "possibly true" that I'm an heir to the throne of England

141 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:44am

OK. The pressure has gotten to me.

First there were the truthers. That was tough.

But now I have to cope with the power, prestige and un-erring analytical capability of the UN.

It is too much.

I therefore am forced to admit that I am the neocon who plotted and executed the 9/11 "events". With the help of Kyle of South Park.

There. I feel better now.

142 charles_martel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:46am

"Falk you!"

143 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:26:53am

re: #114 Ben-Ami

I really am confused here. Presumably, people are nominated for positions on UN committees through their countries of allegiance; I mean, it's the United Nations, not the United Citizens of the World. How on earth did this, er, person get the US to put him up for this body? What is the government thinking?

Wouldn't have been us. We do not sit on the UN "human rights" sham.

144 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:21am

re: #138 Ben Hur

Obama Dusts Off White Racist Grandmother For TV Ad

What half of his family is missing from this ad, and why?

WTF? He is schizo.

145 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:25am
146 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:27am

re: #110 mj

Perhaps Falk would want all Jewish "neo-cons" to wear yellow stars.

If he gets together with Gore, we'll all have to walk to the camps, because train engines have too large a carbon footprint, even with overflowing cattle cars.

147 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:35am

I am not a neo-Con.

I never ever was a Democrat.

I voted for George's dad for my first vote.

I can't effen beleive that I did, but what could I do, vote for Bill?

148 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:41am

re: #99 Athos

Edmund Burke
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

149 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:43am

re: #63 Terp Mole

I'm sorry, but not since Princeton Professor Peter Singer explained that we should give as good as we get from dogs who hump our legs, have I been so exasperated with the way pseudo-intellectual 9/11 Troofers think they should use their head for a colonoscopy and then crab-walk across the public stage of wacademia expecting folks to think their new hats make them look smart.

And, as with Professor Singer's efforts to get pet stores to carry Viagra, I think most Americans will have a very hard time taking Dick Falk seriously; because I'm not sure taking him seriously helps anybody.

Shamlessly stolen from Jonah Goldberg, but very apt.
Original article.

150 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:44am

re: #74 BabbaZee

We are at war here, no one realizes it.

* * *
100 years' war, no less! Only this is the war the left wants to have, and win.

151 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:53am

Israel to deny UN official entry into Israel for comparing Israel to Nazi's

The Foreign Ministry said Tuesday that it will not allow the United Nations official appointed to investigate Israeli-Palestinian human rights to enter the country, after he stood by comments comparing Israelis to Nazis.

Richard Falk is scheduled to take up his post with the UN Human Rights Council in May, but the Foreign Ministry said it will deny Falk a visa to enter Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, at least until a September meeting of the council.

We can't ban Falk, but Sedition remains part of the US Code.....

152 pat  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:27:55am

I have posted the web page to his sponsor up above.

153 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:22am
154 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:27am

re: #138 Ben Hur

Obama Dusts Off White Racist Grandmother For TV Ad

What half of his family is missing from this ad, and why?

That is the most insincere thing I have heard in a long time. He sounds like he is reading it as fast as humanly possible. I cannot believe they let something go out that way.

155 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:32am
156 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:34am

re: #114 Ben-Ami

Good question, but I assume we didn't have to put him up.

157 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:36am

re: #145 savage_nation

You ok? yikes I never seen you explode before......

"Tikkun Olam" is not a term to be hijacked by a bunch of freaks.

158 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:39am

re: #119 Ben Hur

The good news is that BILL CLINTON was behind the first bombing in '93.

* * *
He had a whole month to plan that one, so they could only get a truck and a blind sheikh.

159 Ben-Ami  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:43am

re: #143 galloping granny

Wouldn't have been us. We do not sit on the UN "human rights" sham.

Then what is a US citizen doing on it (assuming this guy is a US citizen)?

160 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:28:51am

re: #146 Kosh's Shadow

If he gets together with Gore, we'll all have to walk to the camps, because train engines have too large a carbon footprint, even with overflowing cattle cars.


And no farting on the way, either!

161 mj  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:29:00am

By the way, that lunatic Kevin Barrett has as his house Jew one
Israel Shamir, who, of course, isn't really a Jew. In fact, he's an antisemite like most of the 911 conspiracy idiots.
Here's what Barrett writes of him on his site:

Israel Shamir, Russian-Israeli intellectual, writer, translator and journalist, is one of Israel’s leading peace activists. The decendent of a rabbi from Palestine, and an IDF veteran of the 1973 war, Shamir changed languages and traded in his literary-intellectual hat to become an activist in response to the terrible events of 2001. Here is his explanation: A Jewish folk tale relates the story of a mute child who had never said a word despite all the efforts of the doctors. Then one day, at the ripe age of ten, he dropped his spoon and cried out, "The soup is too salty!" His parents asked him in amazement why he had kept silent for years, and the child replied, "Until now, everything was all right".
-------------------------------------------------- ------------
The actual Shamir was exposed by the far Leftist Nigel Parry as a fraud:
[Link: www.nigelparry.com...]

162 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:29:32am

re: #134 galloping granny

I say let's use eminent domain and return Turtle Bay to being home to many of NYC's slaughterhouses. That at least would be cleaner than what is there now.

163 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:29:49am
164 Sol Roth  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:30:19am

re: #51 BabbaZee

Richard Falk

Founding member of IALANA and of the World Order Models Project, WOMP.

WOMP=ticket into UN.

/fargin WOMPers (dangerous leftards)

165 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:30:37am

re: #157 Ben Hur

"Tikkun Olam" is not a term to be hijacked by a bunch of freaks.

But it already has been, or is that what you mean?

166 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:31:05am

re: #159 Ben-Ami

Then what is a US citizen doing on it (assuming this guy is a US citizen)?

Don't know. Maybe he is an "employee" of the UN. Not all US citizens who work for the UN are there on behalf of the US.

167 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:31:17am

re: #163 savage_nation

I dont speak, read or write Hebrew. What does it mean?

To repair the world

168 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:31:31am
169 jcm  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:31:46am

Now that the UN is investigating, and when I reviewed the results of this experiment, I must reevaluate my position re. 9/11 theories.

I can no longer call them troofers and moonbats. The name no longer applies.

They are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INSANE, compulsory institutionalization, and heavy medication are the only thing that has any hope for returning them order moonbat conditions.

170 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:31:52am

Resisting the Global Domination Project:
An interview with Prof. Richard Falk
April 18, 2003

For over three decades, Richard Falk has shared, with fellow Americans Noam Chomsky and Edward Said, a reputation of fearless intellectual and political commitment to the building of a just and humane world. He recently retired as Professor of International Law and Practice, at Princeton University and is currently a Visiting Distinguished Professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He has been a prolific writer, speaker and activist of world affairs and the author or co-author of more than 20 books.

The following are excerpts from a discussion that Falk had with Zia Mian and Smitu Kothari about the US war on Iraq, the role and future of the United Nations and the need to rethink democratic institutions and practices.


THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO TF HE IS!

171 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:33:02am

re: #163 savage_nation

I dont speak, read or write Hebrew. What does it mean?

Repairing the World

172 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:33:44am

re: #167 Nevergiveup

To repair the world


Actually it means to repair the world by the people returning to God. That last part is usually left out by the leftist [and Israel-hating] Tikkun-folk.

173 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:34:33am
174 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:34:33am

re: #141 karmic_inquisitor

OK. The pressure has gotten to me.

First there were the truthers. That was tough.

But now I have to cope with the power, prestige and un-erring analytical capability of the UN.

It is too much.

I therefore am forced to admit that I am the neocon who plotted and executed the 9/11 "events". With the help of Kyle of South Park.

There. I feel better now.

Maybe you can crib some ideas from this for your formal confession. :-)

175 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:34:37am

re: #112 Terp Mole


Jeremy spoke in class today.

176 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:35:12am
177 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:35:28am
178 abolitionist  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:35:41am

On sep 18, 2001, there was a news story about some Saudi prince reporting that 911 was a Mossad operation, that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the WTC, etc. Can't find any reference to it now, but I'm sure of the date. FaithFreedom.org had posted 3 pics of demonstrations by hundreds of civilians in Tehran who poured into the streets on that same date, at night, with candles, in sympathy for the US.

It seemed as if the demonstrators had just gotten news of the events, one week late.

179 laZardo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:35:57am

Gotta sleep now, guys. I hope to wake up and not find myself living in a world where twoof is truth and minarets dot the skyline in the name of tolerance and peace.

180 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:36:01am

re: #172 Golem Akbar

Actually it means to repair the world by the people returning to God. That last part is usually left out by the leftist [and Israel-hating] Tikkun-folk.



Amen

I gotta go
BBL

181 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:36:33am

re: #163 savage_nation

I dont speak, read or write Hebrew. What does it mean?

Repairing the World.

I'm sure someone more elequent than me can explain its significance in Judaism.

It's very important.

182 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:36:34am

LGF is having glitches again. Is the UN interfering? Hamsters stopping to watch the black helicopters?

183 laZardo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:36:53am

re: #178 abolitionist

Wasn't that during the Khatami period?

/not quite a good guy, but better than Dinnerjacket.

//actually sleeping now.

184 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:36:54am

It's not surprising that Falk comes from Princeton, after all the Princeton is the university that gave us the godfather of post-modern truthiness. Richard Rorty.

Rorty spent over two decades at Princeton teaching students that their is no such thing as truth, or more precisely, that truth is what ever works for you. You have your "truth", I have my "truth". Who's to judge?

Here's a famous quote by Prof. Rorty:

To say that truth is not out there is simply to say that where there are no sentences there is no truth, that sentences are elements of human languages, and that languages are human creations.~ The suggestion that truth~ is out there is a legacy of an age in which the world was seen as the creation of a being who had a language his own.


~Richard Rorty

This type of anti-enlightenment hogwash is now the norm at all colleges in America, and the around the world.

We truly do live in the Age of Stupidity.

185 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:37:30am

re: #170 BabbaZee

Well, one can learn a lot about a person by the company they keep. Chomsky and Said......'nuff said.

186 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:37:58am

re: #170 BabbaZee

Resisting the Global Domination Project:
An interview with Prof. Richard Falk
April 18, 2003

For over three decades, Richard Falk has shared, with fellow Americans Noam Chomsky and Edward Said, a reputation of fearless intellectual and political commitment to the building of a just and humane world. He recently retired as Professor of International Law and Practice, at Princeton University and is currently a Visiting Distinguished Professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He has been a prolific writer, speaker and activist of world affairs and the author or co-author of more than 20 books.

The following are excerpts from a discussion that Falk had with Zia Mian and Smitu Kothari about the US war on Iraq, the role and future of the United Nations and the need to rethink democratic institutions and practices.


THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO TF HE IS!

He speaks the language of Gramscian Whoredom fluently.

187 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:38:14am

their = there

oy

188 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:38:58am

Here's a question for the troofers. It's a general consensus among the troofers that 9/11 was staged so we could go to war with Iraq & steal their oil. If that really was the case, then why didn't we go to war with Iraq after 9/11? Why waste time & resources with fighting in Afghanistan?

189 Opinionated  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:39:38am

The Elders of Zion called.

They wanted to know what they had done to be replaced as the all purpose conspiracy bogeymen by these upstart "Neo-Cons".

190 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:39:50am

'SILDA KNEW OF HOOKERS'

SILDA Wall Spitzer knew - and didn't care. That's the word we're hearing from a reliable source who says in recent days disgraced former Gov. Eliot Spitzer has told friends his wife was aware of his dalliances with hookers for years but looked the other way. "He said something like, 'My [bleep]ing wife doesn't care, so why does anybody else care?" our insider told us. The ex-gov's flack Anna Cordasco responded: "Completely false."

Daddy told her not to marry a ......

191 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:40:00am

re: #179 laZardo

Gotta sleep now, guys. I hope to wake up and not find myself living in a world where twoof is truth and minarets dot the skyline in the name of tolerance and peace.

Then, don't hit the SNOOZE button.

192 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:40:03am

re: #179 laZardo

Gotta sleep now, guys. I hope to wake up and not find myself living in a world where twoof is truth and minarets dot the skyline in the name of tolerance and peace.

* * *
You HOPE? We have to try harder to CHANGE away from the caliphate, through strength.

193 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:40:03am

This guy is crazy evil.

194 zmdavid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:41:06am

re: #23 BabbaZee


Speaker: Dr. Richard Falk


[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

All three were accepted wisdom during the Carter administration. Somehow we survived. Fortunately Reagan proved them wrong. Unfortunately someone needs to do it again.
Moonbat Sting

195 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:41:07am

re: #184 Ringo the Gringo

Let's not forget another 'prize' professor at Princeton - Peter Singer.

This just typifies the type of rot that has found a home in academia protected by tenure training the next generation of liberal fascists.

196 MarshallOnellion  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:41:35am

So a retired law professor, with no engineering or physical science background, ignores the several engineering reports that analyze the buildings failures and he is taken seriously rather than laughed out of the room. Rubbish, complete rubbish.

197 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:42:54am
198 amphibian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:44:26am
This lunatic must be dismissed from his UN position

Why do you say this? He looks like he fits right in.

199 akak  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:44:52am

US has to stop occupation of UN, Get out!

200 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:44:54am
Mr. Barrett, who is the co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth, said in an interview yesterday of Mr. Falk, “I would put him on a list of scholars who are sympathetic to the 9/11 truth movement.”

Here's an LGF flashback to kevin barrett.

201 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:45:07am
Mr. Falk said, “It is possibly true that especially the neoconservatives thought there was a situation in the country and in the world where something had to happen to wake up the American people. Whether they are innocent about the contention that they made that something happen or not, I don’t think we can answer definitively at this point. All we can say is there is a lot of grounds for suspicion, there should be an official investigation of the sort the 9/11 commission did not engage in and that the failure to do these things is cheating the American people and in some sense the people of the world of a greater confidence in what really happened than they presently possess.”

You son-of-a-bitch.

202 maddogg  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:45:17am

I need Cognito here to explain to me what I am missing that would make this (investigation) a reasonable request, rather than just simple bat shit insanity.

203 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:45:47am

#196 MarshallOnellion

Uh-huh.

And what happens when---as it inevitably will---his committee finds evidence that eeevil Neo-cons, no doubt aided by the Mossad, did, indeed, cause 9/11? (His "evidence" will be BS, of course, but they'll cobble something up, they've been dying to do it ever since Spetember 12th, 2001.) Is he going to try arresting those he thinks responsible? Show trials? Massive reparations paid to the poor, innocent, suffering Saudis? This could get interesting. . .

204 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:46:07am

I for one welcome Pope Benedict wanting to flush leftists from such Jesuit places as Georgetown University. For example, it would be the right thing to do for the Pope when he's in DC this month to kick John Esposito of Georgetown, who takes $20 million in islamist funds to undermine Western Civilization.

205 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:46:17am

This is obviously another step in the strategy of Global Jihad.

Another win for their side, obviously.

Enjoy your western lifestyle, folks, it might not last too much longer!

206 Sol Roth  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:46:43am

BabbaZee YOU ARE ON FIRE!

/can't keep up :')

207 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:46:51am
208 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:47:20am

re: #190 Ben Hur

'SILDA KNEW OF HOOKERS'


Daddy told her not to marry a ......


/It's just another neo-con plot...

209 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:47:32am

re: #178 abolitionist

The first report that "the Jews stayed home on 9-11" was broadcast on the Hezbollah media (TV & Radio) on Sept 13, 2001. They made reference to a message from Israeli consulates around the world on Sept 12 to warn Jews to be careful and watch out for follow-on attacks. Egyptian media picked up the Hezbollah story the next day, and it has spread ever since then.

210 alegrias  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:47:52am

New thread with dashed martyrs!

211 BenZ's Bat  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:48:09am

OT Update on Mom's surgery. At this time she is still in surgery but we've had an update that everything is going well so far. Keep praying.

212 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:48:58am
213 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:49:02am

this man is a traitor to the united states and should be treated as such

to think that the most inept administration in a long time could orchestrate this is mind numbing

214 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:49:13am

re: #202 maddogg

I need Cognito here to explain to me what I am missing that would make this (investigation) a reasonable request, rather than just simple bat shit insanity.

he would use the tact that it wouldn't harm anything,,,,, that it is better to have too much info than not enough,,,,, that when this moonbat finds there is not 9/11= neocon connection he will just go away
What Cognito wouldn't acknowledge is that this moonbat would find a connection, even to the piont of making one up just to PROVE his theory

215 gymnast  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:49:59am

An academic reputation such as that of Professor Falk, upon close examination, is no more substantial than than that of a pervert as described in a "personals" classified ad. Princeton is noted for it's Ornithology Department and it's amazing collection of world class shitbirds.

216 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:50:03am

re: #194 zmdavid

As any person whom God loves, has therefore a moral obligation to defend himself and avoid damage,

And as the truly evil recognize no constraint except force,

Therefore it is good that the most moral people have the biggest weapons, including nuclear weapons,

or the evil will prey upon and hurt the innocent.

217 Ben Hur  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:50:33am

re: #196 MarshallOnellion

So a retired law professor, with no engineering or physical science background, ignores the several engineering reports that analyze the buildings failures and he is taken seriously rather than laughed out of the room. Rubbish, complete rubbish.

Should also be applied to Said.

218 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:50:33am
219 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:50:38am

re: #213 tfc3rid

requires rope

220 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:52:01am

What's next, former Governor Jessie Ventura becoming a troofer?

/oh wait . . .

221 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:52:39am

re: #217 Ben Hur

Applies to the entire 9/11 Scholars for Truth collection of pinheads....not one Civil Engineer in the entire mix.

222 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

DEFEND the US
DEFUND the UN.

actually, I wouold send a check to the UN if the funds were to be used to move the UN to some hellhole country that they are so "concerned" about. What better way to fix a problem than to live right there and witness it 1st hand.

223 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:53:47am
224 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:53:51am

With the term "Neo-Cons" at the center of this stupidity, I must confess that I still don't know how that term became associated with Jews......other than to speculate that a large number of Jews who were formerly more liberal changed to conservative values at some point (I.E. David Horowitz).

If that's the case, why would Jews be disproportionately represented in the group of people who switched?

Any thoughts?

225 Alouette  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:54:34am
226 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #223 savage_nation

we are skirting deletions here.

so I'm off to work

227 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #222 sattv4u2

actually, I wouold send a check to the UN if the funds were to be used to move the UN to some hellhole country that they are so "concerned" about. What better way to fix a problem than to live right there and witness it 1st hand.

Unfortunately, they are only concerned about the "plight" of the paliterrorists, who can't get a decent meal; they have to live on only 50 lbs of flour a day.
I say they should have to go to Darfur and see real suffering refugees.

228 chinesearithmetic  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:56:17am

Mr. Barrett, who is the co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth

or National United Truthers' Joint Obama Bankrollers' Society for short

229 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:56:22am

#202 maddogg

You got it!

:>)

(Channeling Cognito) Well, whatever we do, let's not fly off the collective handle here. LGF really tends to do that too much, and, when it does, right-thinking persons all over the world are offended by it, because, really, guys, it's not rational, and it's just like Daily KOS.

Okay. So, looking at this rationally and calmly, let's look at what we have here. What do we have? A good question. We have something. Something is what we have. But it's not what you think it is. It's something else. Bolton isn't accusing George Bush, or anybody else, of actually carrying out 9/11. He says something happened. Well, something did happen. Can anybody deny that? He mentions "neo-cons", but, really, who are the Neo-cons? He doesn't mention any names, he even says that these "neo-cons" may even be innocent. Basically, he's saying the neo-cons are innocent until proven guilty, which is, after all, the American way. He's also calling for an investigation. Again, nothing particularly bad about that. Investigations are the American way too. This is his job. He's just doing his job. Jobs are the American way. Capitalisim is splendid.

Furthermore, investigating said neo-cons would actually be a good thing, since it would clear the air once and for all, and finally get the truth out in the open. Journalism does it's job just fine when the blogsphere quits picking on it all the time.

(Howz dat for a Cognito imitation?)

230 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:56:52am

There will always be a seat available for an hard-line commie America-hater with US citizenship at the Internional House of Loons, which some people refer to as the United Nations.

231 Athos  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:56:55am

re: #227 Kosh's Shadow


The problem is this lot only sees what they want to believe, they don't believe what they see. Sending them to Darfur would be a waste....unless they came up with a way to blame the Joooos or the US on the problem.

232 jab1  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:57:10am

There are some people this world would be better off without, Falk is one of them.

233 m  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:57:59am

Thank you for all the links {Babba}!

re: #220 Killian Bundy

!

Say it ain't so!

234 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:58:00am

Bring back John Bolton.

235 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:59:12am
236 abolitionist  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 9:59:37am

re: #209 Kenneth

Thanks.

237 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:00:34am
238 maddogg  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:00:43am

What can you say about this? Hell, I can't get any outrage going because no amount of corruption, waste, stupidity, or immorality emanating from the UN can surprise me anymore.

Having the UN in our country is akin to asking your worst enemy to come into your house and shit on your favorite chair.

239 J.S.  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:01:08am

Just another self-hating Jew...what a monstrosity...

240 m  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:01:18am

[[[Savage]]]!

Me too. I sent a prayer to be put in the Western Wall.

241 Darwin Akbar  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:02:07am

This Falk really is a good judge of character (from the NY Sun article):

"In a February 16, 1979, op-ed for the New York Times, Mr. Falk praised Ayatollah Khomeini and bemoaned his ill treatment in the American press. He wrote, "The depiction of him as fanatical, reactionary and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false."'

....Let's allow him to teach young people at one of America's most prestigious universities!

242 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:02:11am
243 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:02:33am

re: #233 m

Say it ain't so!

Earlier this week on Hannity and Skeletor.

/Building 7, fire doesn't melt steel, the whole nine yards

244 maddogg  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:03:03am

re: #229 TalkinKamel

#202 maddogg

You got it!

:>)

(Channeling Cognito) Well, whatever we do, let's not fly off the collective handle here. LGF really tends to do that too much, and, when it does, right-thinking persons all over the world are offended by it, because, really, guys, it's not rational, and it's just like Daily KOS.

Okay. So, looking at this rationally and calmly, let's look at what we have here. What do we have? A good question. We have something. Something is what we have. But it's not what you think it is. It's something else. Bolton isn't accusing George Bush, or anybody else, of actually carrying out 9/11. He says something happened. Well, something did happen. Can anybody deny that? He mentions "neo-cons", but, really, who are the Neo-cons? He doesn't mention any names, he even says that these "neo-cons" may even be innocent. Basically, he's saying the neo-cons are innocent until proven guilty, which is, after all, the American way. He's also calling for an investigation. Again, nothing particularly bad about that. Investigations are the American way too. This is his job. He's just doing his job. Jobs are the American way. Capitalisim is splendid.

Furthermore, investigating said neo-cons would actually be a good thing, since it would clear the air once and for all, and finally get the truth out in the open. Journalism does it's job just fine when the blogsphere quits picking on it all the time.

(Howz dat for a Cognito imitation?)

Talkinkamel, you are brilliant!

245 Bubblehead II  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:03:33am

re: #202 maddogg

Mandy, where is your skillet? He is trying to invoke otingoC!

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:04:02am

Let's see. This is a world where Charles can't post his bike routes for fear, but this falker can walk the streets?

Yeah...Neocons are a dangerous folk.

247 GOP Goalie  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:04:13am

Top 10 UN Slogans

[Link: www.thoseshirts.com...]

My personal favorites are numbers 10, 9, 8, ...well, all of them.

248 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:04:23am

#237 Savage Nation

Nope, no sock puppet! Just inspired by my magical Plastic 8-Ball! (It knows all, it sees all!)

249 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:04:34am

So, if these loons can say something like this, how difficukt would it be to say that the UN had a role in 9/11 as well... Some member nations I am certain knew of the plot (read: Saudi, Iran, Afghan.)... Therefore, UN members knew of it... It's all a UN conspiracy...

Kick them out and arrest this traitorous piece of garbage.

250 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:05:12am
251 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:05:14am

#242 maddogg

Aw, shucks. . .

{maddogg!}

252 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:05:47am
253 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:13:46am

re: #184 Ringo the Gringo

It's not surprising that Falk comes from Princeton, after all the Princeton is the university that gave us the godfather of post-modern truthiness. Richard Rorty.

Rorty spent over two decades at Princeton teaching students that their is no such thing as truth, or more precisely, that truth is what ever works for you. You have your "truth", I have my "truth". Who's to judge?

Here's a famous quote by Prof. Rorty:
~Richard Rorty

This type of anti-enlightenment hogwash is now the norm at all colleges in America, and the around the world.

We truly do live in the Age of Stupidity.

Oy. Let me put in a brief and partial defense for Rorty. As he is a self-described red-diaper baby, you might look to his skepticism as anti-religious and pro-socialist. However, it has much stronger roots in mathematical and logical philosophical analysis. I think a proper description would be entirely in the tradition of the Enlightenment, one of the main themes of which was anti-theology. Rorty is one of those brilliant fools, but the quote above, actually, involves more technical than moral issues, and on the technical side, I quite like it, and thanks for posting.

Just so happens in reading Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" he also delights in taking some of Jacque Derrida's favorite terms, logocentrism and deconstruction, and assuming these favor one side or another, that Derrida himself must favor the bad guys, and it's one of several places where I think Goldberg overreaches rather badly. I read deconstruction, or even Rorty's skepticism, as supporting the idea that we don't know, which should support libertarianism much more than socialism, and should certainly allow for religion on a personal basis, though not on an institutional basis.

254 realwest  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:14:26am

re: #234 TalkinKamel
Hey Fritzie! Never mind bringing back John Bolton, let's just get rid of the UN!
BTW - haven't read the thread so it's probable that someone else has said this, but where the fuck does the United Nations get off "investigating" anything about 9/11 ?

255 Bearster  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:23:02am

re: #188 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

... It's a general consensus among the troofers that 9/11 was staged so we could go to war with Iraq & steal their oil. ... then why didn't we go to war with Iraq after 9/11? ...

And why didn't we take their oil?

I can't use the word "steal" because they actually stole it from us. They didn't call it "stealing", they called it "nationalizing". And to postmodern tribal-collectivist intellectuals in America, it was theirs because it was under their soil.

In their view, rightful ownership is not based on property rights. It had nothing to do with the fact tha western corporations spent the money to explore for the oil, and engineering drilling and pumping capability.

The arab dictators all stole the oil from the 1950's to the 1960's.

But never mind that, Bush is fighting to steal the oil. If that's so, why isn't the oil flowing to America, to the profit of American companies?

256 Former Belgian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:24:48am

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

No, Falk is Martin Prince. That way, we get to hang him upside down and pelt him with tomatoes.

Upside down.. by which body part?

/Assuming he's got it

257 kafir  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:25:19am

It never fails to amaze me, how otherwise supposedly intelligent people can reveal themselves to be stark raving loons.

One would think that a professor at Princeton actually had meaning in terms of intelligence and reasoning ability.

This person provides evidence to the contrary.

258 Bearster  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:30:02am

re: #253 itellu3times

Oy. Let me put in a brief and partial defense for Rorty. ...

I read deconstruction, or even Rorty's skepticism, as supporting the idea that we don't know, which should support libertarianism much more than socialism, and should certainly allow for religion on a personal basis, though not on an institutional basis.

Why it may be the belief of some libertarians, the view that no one can know anything leads to the view that no one can judge anything. This is an excuse factory that can be used to justify any kind of oppressive regime, corruption, violence, and of course, condemnation of legitemate goals, groups, and nations.

So let me say this, in all earnestness, and with all due respect. If you feel that you know nothing for certain, then you can--at best--confess this. What you can't do is tell me that I know nothing, and you can't assert the general proposition that all people know nothing.

The feeling of knowing nothing is a state of confusion!

Otherwise, you're left with "nothing is knowable, except the one principle that nothing else is knowable."

This whole "philosophy" is designed to disarm the victim intellectually. The correlation between postmodern idealogy and fascism/marxism is no coincidence.

259 Former Belgian  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:30:16am

Let me fix that for you:

re: #239 J.S.
Just another self-hating Jew malignant narcissist convinced that everybody would recognize his greatness if he wasn't technically a Jew, and therefore feels a need to dump on Jews all the time ...what a monstrosity indeed...

260 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:36:06am
...calling for an official commission to study the role neoconservatives may have played in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"Neocon" for a long time was used by the Left as a perjorative euphamism for "Jew", but these days most people who use the term as an insult have no idea of this history - they think it only means "eeeevil Republican Imperialist" or some such. In Perfesser Falk's case, we know he means "Jew".

261 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:39:51am

The 9-11 Truth movement came out of frustration on how nothing was explained to the American people. Nothing adds up. Some people see it as a Global Jihad movement - how has many ex-government officials paid off by oil money. But others see it as global elite looking to make a bigger gap between rich and poor.

And that is the Trooth! You can listen to the podcasts of these people yourself at several websites. THAT is what they say.

262 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:41:39am

Excuse me, I meant to say that some people (not truthers) think that it is a Global Jihad with many current and ex-government officials being paid off by Jihad oil money... and so on.

263 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:44:22am

Truthers do NOT say this:

"... It's a general consensus among the troofers that 9/11 was staged so we could go to war with Iraq & steal their oil. ... then why didn't we go to war with Iraq after 9/11? ..."

Alex Jones, who is the top 9-11 Truther, says it is global elite, who want to set up a global government and eliminate masses of the population.

264 sparrowlake  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:47:10am

re: #257 kafir

It never fails to amaze me, how otherwise supposedly intelligent people can reveal themselves to be stark raving loons.

The U.N. is broken beyond repair and it needs to be scrapped. Firing this asshat will not accomplish anything of lasting value because his successor will be as bad or worse.
But don't fuck with the Loon.

265 Susanl  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:47:37am

re: #250 savage_nation

Evil is an understatement.

You can bet if McCain picks Romney as VP, this will be World headlines.

BBL

266 Is it me?  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:52:01am

#241 Darwin Akbar
Haha haha
Falk certainly isn't a good judge of character, and, apparently, not reality either. What a berk.
Just when you hope the UN can't get any worse. They do.
delete
delete
brain bleach!

267 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:52:46am

re: #253 itellu3times

I confess, I've tried to read Rorty and all I've gotten from it is a bad headache. Perhaps I'm not smart enough to comprehend the deeper meaning of what, to me, reads like convoluted nonsense, or worse, the writings of an intellectual contortionist who is desperately seeking any possible "reason" not to give up on his youthful Utopianism.

Here's another snippet from Rorty that seems to explain the psychology that underlies his philosophy:

“the Utopian social hope which sprang up in nineteenth-century Europe is still the noblest imaginative creation of which we have record.”

What makes people like Rorty (and Derrida) so dangerous is his effect on students who will use his ideas as "intellectual" excuses to believe - and do - almost anything.

268 zmdavid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 10:57:35am

re: #267 Ringo the Gringo

What makes people like Rorty (and Derrida) so dangerous is his effect on students who will use his ideas as "intellectual" excuses to believe - and do - almost anything.

You reminded me of an old Hitchcock movie I saw recently.
Rope (1948)

Plot Outline:Two young men strangle their "inferior" classmate, hide his body in their apartment, and invite his friends and family to a dinner party as a means to challenge the "perfection" of their crime.
269 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:00:10am

Scratch any 9/11 Truther and you'll find an anti-Semite.

270 ocelot  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:17:41am

Still figuring out how to make a link "related to post"

[Link: www.princetonhillel.org...]

Is Princeton Hillel saluting Black Power or Marxism?
A marginal improvement over the previous edition
featuring Che Guevara.

ocelot

271 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:23:25am

re: #211 BenZ's Bat

OT Update on Mom's surgery. At this time she is still in surgery but we've had an update that everything is going well so far. Keep praying.

will do
thanks

272 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:24:58am

re: #194 zmdavid

All three were accepted wisdom during the Carter administration. Somehow we survived. Fortunately Reagan proved them wrong. Unfortunately someone needs to do it again.
Moonbat Sting

Unfortunately there is no Reagan on the horizon.

273 zmdavid  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:27:46am

re: #272 BabbaZee

Unfortunately there is no Reagan on the horizon.


Agreed. We survived Carter. We might not be so lucky this time.

274 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:32:02am

re: #181 Ben Hur

Repairing the World.

I'm sure someone more elequent than me can explain its significance in Judaism.

It's very important.

It originates with Luria

Tikkun Olam: The Spiritual Purpose of Life

Isaac Luria, the renowned sixteenth century Kabbalist, used the phrase “tikkun olam,” usually translated as repairing the world, to encapsulate the true role of humanity in the ongoing evolution and spiritualization of the cosmos. Luria taught that God created the world by forming vessels of light to hold the Divine Light. But as God poured the Light into the vessels, they catastrophically shattered, tumbling down toward the realm of matter. Thus, our world consists of countless shards of the original vessels entrapping sparks of the Divine Light. Humanity’s great task involves helping God by freeing and reuniting the scattered Light, raising the sparks back to Divinity and restoring the broken world.

[SNIP]

/This concept (and others) was highjacked by the commies AGES ago in order to place a "spiritual basis" spin onto their concepts of "social justice" and pervert as many Jews as they could away from The Covenant, much the same as the Commie Whores of Churchianity have done in Christianity with their "social gospel"

YOU CAN NOT SEPARATE GOD FROM HIS WORD
all you get are perversions at that point.

275 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:32:26am

re: #273 zmdavid

Agreed. We survived Carter. We might not be so lucky this time.

As it is written we will see it being done.

276 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:40:59am

re: #261 KayMichelle

The 9-11 Truth movement came out of frustration on how nothing was explained to the American people. Nothing adds up.

WTF are you on about?

Have you read The Looming Tower?

"Nothing adds up" only to people who can't handle what it adds up to.

If you are a person prone to blaming America for all the world's ill, or if you see Jewish plots behind every major world event, or if your mind has been rotted by cultural-relativism, then yes, it won't add up to you pre-determined views.

If you are a clear-headed person, then what happened on 9/11/2001 is not hard to understand.

Cognitive dissonance can be a real bitch.

277 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:55:41am

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278 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:57:59am

Hi BabbaZee!

279 UberInfidel67  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 11:58:30am

I may not always agree with President Bush....but seeing the look on his face when this catastrophe happened is sad. These "troofers" need put out of their own misery.

Link to picture:

[Link: search.live.com...]

280 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:02:18pm

re: #278 Ringo the Gringo

Shalom {Ringo!}

281 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:17:24pm

#261 KayMichelle

That might be what they're saying, but that doesn't make it true---and it doesn't excuse their wallowing in their ignorance and blaming 9/11 on Israel and/or the American government? It also doesn't mean the rest of us have to believe them, because, boo-hoo, they feel bad, they feel like they've been lied to, blah, blah, blah.

Seriously, if these Bozos really believed the whole thing was a set-up by a global elite to steal oil, why are they being so open, nay, loudmouthed, in their denunciations of the government? Aren't they afraid that this same government, which (according to them), murdered over 3,000 citizens, just to get some more oil (why not just drill illegally in ANWR?), and, furthermore, was able to get at least one foreign government, as well as countless demolitions experts, government officials, firefighters, etc. to go along with the plot, isn't going to come and kill them? They would be scared, if they really believed that---but I don't think they do.

I think the whole 9/11 Truth conspiracy arises from its adherents' fear that there really are a lot of Moslems aren't there who want to establish a worldwide caliphate, and they don't know how to handle this. It's scary, and doesn't fit with their cozy worldview, wherein America is always the bad guy, but always there to take care of them, and put up with their badmouthing it. If there really is a brand new world war brewing, they might actually have to do something! They might have to stop hating America, blaming everything on society, and really do soemthing.

There've been plenty of explanations of what happened; witnesses, bin Ladin claiming responsibility, they just don't want to face the ugly truth.

282 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:19:38pm

re: #254 realwestHi, realwest! Getting rid of the UN works for me!

You know what's gonna happen if they investigate 9/11. They're gonna blame it on Israel. (Their standard response to everything.)

283 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:21:17pm

#252 savage_nation

Many thanks!

{savage_nation}

284 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:22:15pm

Of course I read the Looming Tower, and Richard Clark's (whine-ography) 'Against all Enemies' and Robert Baer's 'Sleeping with the Enemy' and Gerald Posner's 'Secrets of the Kingdom' Inside the Saudi US Connection' - and Ron Suskind's 'The One Percent Doctrine'...

ALL of which show an agenda that is truly alarming. The connection between Saudi Arabia and current and former US government officials are creating this underground movement. They may have alot wrong, they may see no Global Jihad ready to jump in and assume leadership - but at least they are saying "Enough!"

285 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:25:17pm

TalkinKamel, they don't blame Israel. They see a global elite - with European royalty at the center - the 9-11 conspiracy group talks about Bilderbergs, Davos and those types as those who did it. And the claim that these royal Europeans are just as anti-Semitic as the Arabs. You can google Alex Jones, the leader of this movement.

286 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:29:47pm

Again, the 9-11 movement people do not say that invading Iraq was for oil. They say it was to bankrupt the U.S. - they say it was to take away the Bill of Rights, especially the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments. I'm just telling you this so you know, google it - it isn't anti-Semitic, it is anti-global elite - they are convinced there is a push for world government that will be tyrannical, and destroying the U.S. is necessary to implement that.

287 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:41:38pm

#285 KayMichelle

Well, sometimes, late at night, after a few too many pizzas, I see Baldwin IV, the Leper King, dancing the hula with his army of psychic, singing dolphins. Just because somebody "sees" something, doesn't mean it's real, you know.

I'm not going to google Alex Jones, I know more about his conspiracy theories than I ever wanted to, and none of them sound convincing to me. (And, sorry, but many Troofer posters I've read do blame Israel, and often hint at evil plots hatched by the Mossad to crate 9/11).

And, to be blunt, I don't give a damn who they're blaming this week, be it Neocons, Dick Cheney, The Royal House of Windsor, Mickey Mouse or Baldwin IV, the Leper King. I don't care if they see a European elite, or my grandmother's big toe behind it. Go back and re-read my earlier post. I believe the real reason for their idiot conspiracy theories is the fact that they just can't deal with the truth.

Maybe they have convinced themselves that Europeans, the Bilderbergs or King Baldwin's tap dancing Meerkats are behind it, but nothing---NOTHING---I've even seen presented by any Troofer has persuaded me of anything other than that these guys are just plain scared s*******s at the thought of actually confronting Islamic terrorism. It's easier, cosier, safer ('cuz it's not real) to fantasize that Bush, decaying Eurotrash royalty or oil tycoons are responsible for 9/11.
They certainly haven't offered any convincing proof of this.

If Alex Jones really is onto all those evil Europeans, why haven't they killed him yet, or found some way of silencing his movement? I mean, they're pretty powerful, after all, right? In fact, if they're so powerful, why all the futzing around? Why don't they just come out openly, "WE'RE IN CHARGE NOW, AND YA GOTTA DO WHAT WE SAY!" Why don't they just march into ANWR, say "All this oil is ours, now, neener, neener!"

288 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:44:13pm

#286 KayMichelle

The 9/11 movement people say a lot of things.

And the things they say are pretty asnine.

289 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:47:03pm

#286 KayMichelle

And, the last time I checked, the Bill of Rights was still here.

Again, if these Eurotrash royal elitists are so powerful they can pull off 9/11, why haven't they gotten rid of it by now? 9/11 was 7 years ago. Why haven't they declared themselves, openly, rulers of the planet, and made America greater Eurostan, ruled by Baldwin IV 1/2 or something?

290 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:52:04pm

re: #285 KayMichelle

TalkinKamel, they don't blame Israel.

Is that right?
Who the hell do you think you are kidding,
other than yourself?

And as far as the Saudis buying politicians, even a stopped clock is right twice daily. It excuses none of their evil lunacy that there are grains of truth in some of their fantasies.

UNDECIEVE YOURSELF KAY MICHELLE

it isn't anti-Semitic, it is anti-global elite - they are convinced there is a push for world government that will be tyrannical, and destroying the U.S. is necessary to implement that.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Gramscian language of Deception!
Turnspeak

Connecting The Dots - Zionists & 911


9/11 was a Zionist job

PROTHINK: EXPOSE THE WORLD ZIONIST CONSPIRACY

Search: 9/11 truth zionists


Alex Jones answers the "zionist question"

So WTF is that doublespoking shit supposed to mean? (he does not want to get "attacked" by the ADL is what he says here, basically)

FUCK HIM

291 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:55:07pm

9/11 was a Zionist job

link was not right sorry

292 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:56:33pm

re: #285 KayMichelle

Please stop googling Alex Jones and seek professional help.

I'm sure that your family still cares about you, take their advice and get counseling.

293 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:57:05pm
294 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:58:00pm

#290 BabbaZee

Thanks, Babba, you'se is da link lady!

(Kay, the---ahem---"stuff" Babba links to is all too typical of Troofer spew I've read in the past.)

295 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 12:58:16pm

#285 KayMichelle

TalkinKamel, they don't blame Israel.

Many do.

Please see photo at post #269.

296 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:04:12pm

Kay Michelle

And

if Jews and Israel and Zionists means so little to them ....

you tell me whyTF did they find it necessary to question Alex Jones and have him "explain his position on the Zionist Question"?


The fucking ZIONIST QUESTION.

{Kamel}

Gotta go

[self deleted]
[redacted]
[censored]

297 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:05:33pm
298 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:06:04pm

Babba - I'm currently watching the Youtube that you sited.

Here is a direct quote of Alex Jones

"Look, it has become a religion to bash Jews. I am not going to take part in that.."

That is his view. I have heard it many times.

Alex Jones says that it is a global elite, comprised of all kinds of different people, but mainly headed by the European royalty, like Prince Charles ilk.

I'm not saying that I agree, just trying to keep you guys straight in what he says. It is NOT an anti-semitic thing. It is an anti-global elite.

299 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:09:25pm

re: #296 BabbaZee

Kay Michelle

And

if Jews and Israel and Zionists means so little to them ....

you tell me whyTF did they find it necessary to question Alex Jones and have him "explain his position on the Zionist Question"?


The fucking ZIONIST QUESTION.

{Kamel}


Because he is frequently accused of being anti-semitic when he is not. He is anti-UN, anti-globalist.

Gotta go

[self deleted]
[redacted]
[censored]

300 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:10:39pm

re: #298 KayMichelle

Listen to the whole thing

He clearly double speaks
and at the end
tells them he holds these views so he does not get "attacked by the ADL"

You keep saying you don;t agree with him...
and you keep insisting there is no Jew hate here


If you think for one second there is no antisemitism in this you are either very young, very foolish, very stupid, very disingenuous, a closet Jew hater yourself, or just fucking sleepwalking through life

In any event it is obvious to me there is zero reason to speak to you further about this, as you can not even discern for yourself what that MFer is saying in that video.

enjoy your delusions

301 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:11:14pm

Alex Jones' followers are a personality cult, just like the Lyndon LaRouchies.

If you want to join a cult, join Scientology and at least you might land a good job.

302 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:12:16pm

I am too pissed to post
I should have left before that last one.

Bye Y'all

303 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:17:49pm
I'm not saying that I agree, just trying to keep you guys straight...

Oh bugger off with that...You believe, you just don't want to come out and say so because you know you'll sound crazy.

304 Cognito  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:18:58pm

Ah, my little fanclub.

Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves to come here and invent things in my name, which have exactly no bearing on my opinion on the matter? (Feel free to prove me wrong with a quote.)

I really hope it does. I hope it brings some worth to your lives; otherwise it's almost too tragic to contemplate.

Best of luck.

305 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:25:45pm

I agree with people like Robert Baer, who by the way, has been on Alex Jones' show - who says that there is a criminally negligent element in the U.S. government that wouldn't step up to the plate when it was needed - right before the World Trade Towers were hit.

Our government was warned by several European intelligent agencies, several Middle Eastern intelligent agencies, including Israel and no one would listen or act.

Yes, I would like to see an investigation AND SOME PUNISHMENT against these individuals. Instead, like George Tenet, they get awards! They get away with censoring the media - like Bill Clinton did!

Because they are not held accountable, because they give awards to these idiots, it makes people suspicious. Duh!

306 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:28:28pm

#298 KayMichelle

An elite? Headed by. . . Prince Charles? The man who would be tampon? (Snort! Snicker, hee-heeee, guffaw! He's part of the global elite? He and his lovely wife, Mr. Ed? Who are the other Aristos who supposedly make up this elite? Which royal families? What dynasties?

(Troofers say the darndest things!)

Kay, as I pointed out earlier, I don't really care who the 9/11 Truth movement is blaming this week (it's always anybody but a bunch of Moslem terrorists, right?) So you're going on and on about how they really aren't antisemitic (when a large number of them are), and how they really blame a European elite, really don't signify, because it's all so much---well, Queen Camilla poop. They dance 'round and 'round Robin Hood's barn, trying to avoid blaming the one group they should blame---Islamic terrorists.

Kay, I have the sneaky feeling you do agree with Alex Jones, and the Troofers, and so I'm going to tell you something, for your own good. Conspiracy theories are often concocted, because, ironic those this sounds, they comfort us; they make us feel better. The world is a scary, confusing place; conspiracy theories assure us, that no matter how bad things are, somebody's in charge: a European elite, George Bush, the Zionists, The Leper King's Three-Ring circus. Conspiracy theories reassure us that our leaders are not sometimes, well, stupid jerks, but all-powerful, omnicompetent demi-gods, who may do evil things, but have long, far-reaching plans, and are immensely powerful. They may even kill some of us, but at least they're in charge!

Also, conspiracies tend to demonize those who are essentially harmless---because it's too scary facing the real bad guys! Look how Gypsies, and the Jews, have been demonized over the centuries! People who were mostly powerless, and outcast. Whereas truly evil guys, such as many Marxist dictators, are lauded as great statesman!

I suspect Alex Jones and the other Troofers realize, deep down, that George Bush or Prince Chuckles isn't out to conquer to the world (as if they could!). They're frightened and angry after 9/11, and, instead of admitting their fear, and directing their anger at Islam, they're lashing out at safe targets: Jews, Bush, the Mossad, Oil magnates, European AristoTrash, the usual suspects. (They forgot the Gypsies, this time around.) They're also wrapping themselves in the warm security blanket of "Conspiracy theory" (after all, those elites might be bad, but it's not as if there's going to be war, and a worldwide caliphate---is there?")

Kay, are you getting into these theories to make yourself feel better? If so, you might want to think again.

307 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:30:58pm

#305 KayMichelle

Government being negligent and not heeding warnings doesn't equate to a worldwide-elitist conspiracy---it's just government incompetence, like always. And just being suspicious doesn't excuse accusing the American people of hideous crimes, and slandering them.

308 rustynail  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:33:17pm

re: #45 itellu3times

I'd say we'd have to wake up the official US representatives, Bush, Condi, Zalmay Khalilzad (our ambassador to the UN, no less).

This is why our failure to appoint John Bolton as our Ambassador to the UN was an unmitigated disaster. Why can't our populace learn?

309 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:36:13pm

One item I would like investigated anew - why was Jamie Gorelick on the commission? She is one of the individuals responsible for the deep chism between the CIA and the FBI.

Why was Lee Hamilton, who has business ties with Saudi Arabia, in charge of the 9-11 commission? George Posner and Dore Gold's books on Saudi Arabia are truly alarming when they bring these questions up. I'd like an answer, for one.

310 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:39:49pm

An elite? Headed by. . . Prince Charles? The man who would be tampon? (Snort! Snicker, hee-heeee, guffaw! He's part of the global elite? He and his lovely wife, Mr. Ed? Who are the other Aristos who supposedly make up this elite? Which royal families? What dynasties?

===============


Yes, exactly... which is where I don't agree with them. But if you take what they say, and insert "Global Jihad" where they blame "Global Elitists" I think you would come pretty close to some horrible truths.

And, according to Robert Baer and Gerald Posner, and several others I haven't named, but are on the book lists here, and at Jihad Watch, come up with a pretty similar scenario.

311 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:44:54pm

re: #307 TalkinKamel

#305 KayMichelle

Government being negligent and not heeding warnings doesn't equate to a worldwide-elitist conspiracy---it's just government incompetence, like always. And just being suspicious doesn't excuse accusing the American people of hideous crimes, and slandering them.

You believe in a worldwide conspiracy - an Islamic one.

And it isn't just government incompetence - it is politicians with Saudi money in their pockets - officials with promises to make deals with oil magnates later in their careers - ie Bill Clinton, Howard Baker, Jimmy Carter, et al.

312 Da Coyote  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:48:32pm

Years ago when I was young, stupid, and liberal, I used to laugh at those bumper stickers saying, "Get the US out of the UN". I don't laugh any more.

313 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:54:30pm

re: #263 KayMichelle

Truthers do NOT say this:

"... It's a general consensus among the troofers that 9/11 was staged so we could go to war with Iraq & steal their oil. ... then why didn't we go to war with Iraq after 9/11? ..."

Although some do.

Alex Jones, who is the top 9-11 Truther, says it is global elite, who want to set up a global government and eliminate masses of the population.

Paranoid conspiracy theory is paranoid conspiracy theory, whether the boogymen are the "neocons" or "global elite" (usually used as another euphemism for "International Jew", btw). Alex Jones may or may not be an antisemite, but he is not rational...

The conspiracy is the Salafist Death Cult, a genuine conspiracy in every sense of the word - whose inspirational figurehead is hiding in some remote village in northwest Pakistan: Osama bin Laden.

BTW, do they (Al-Qaeda) have the capability to actually succeed in their plans to create a Worldwide Islamic Caliphate? No, they don't, but they and their fellow Muslim radicals, are quite capable of creating widespread and massive death and destruction in the attempt.

314 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 1:56:15pm

You still have not explained why your troofy friends felt it necessary to ask your hero Alex Jones the 'ZIONIST QUESTION" in the first place.
Since there is no antisemetism in your feverish little world, why woould the question even be necessary?


Your blablalblablalblalblablalblalblalbla troof! routine has zero credibility, owing in large part to the fact that you can not even smell the 4,000 pounds of Jew hate sitting in the room with you.


These troofer assholes are on the other side,
they are WITH the jihad.

Have you read all the links I placed in this thread regarding the thread's subject, Mr. Falk?

No Jew hate there either, right?

Discernment.
Get some today.


and now I go back to the kitchen where I am conspiring with a Zionist Chicken

315 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:10:58pm

You still have not explained why your troofy friends felt it necessary to ask your hero Alex Jones the 'ZIONIST QUESTION" in the first place.

___

I did, but I will repeat myself: Obviously someone wanted Alex Jones to clarify his position of whether or not he was antisemitic. His answer is obvious in that tape. NO. He said it very emphatically.

You are blaming someone for being asked a question, that is not logical.

How about this: what if Prince Charles tomorrow declared he had converted to Islam tomorrow? That he thinks Sharia is good, is inevitable, as did the Archbishop of Canterbury?

Well, then Alex Jones' conspiracy theories wouldn't look so crazy to people, that is what. It would have simply taken an Islamic turn.

And it is entirely possible, and wouldn't surprise me one bit if we read a story like that in the paper. In fact, it would slip the whole Global Jihad in Great Britian into a done deal.

316 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:15:26pm

You are a fool.

A double talking triple spoking fucking FOOL

WHY DID THEY FEEL THE QUESTION WAS NECESSARY TO ASK IF THERE IS NO ANTISEMITISM IN YOUR TROOFER WORLD?

You STILL have not answered it.

Because the answer is they all believe in the ZIONIST CONSPIRACY and want to know why their hero DENIES IT

and BTW NO ONE around here is harder on the Saudi money thing regarding our government than I am.

Search my posts, or go read at my blog you will see this is so

I believe we were sold to the MFers long ago but that's another conversation entirely.

This STILL does not give ANY credence to ANY of this Gramscian Troofer bong hit BS.

The only thing that is TROOF
and this is a horrible thing to say
is that 9/11 WORKED for those who perpetrated it, those who perpetrated it being
Al Qaeda / ISLAM.

We are busy rushing to fellate our enemies as I type this.

The fact that we have been sold out has zero to do with your TROOFERISMS.

But it does have more to do with Jew hate than someone like you could ever imagine.....

and this is what connects the Troofers to the Muslims to the Whores of Gramscis to the Saudis etc etc etc

You want a conspiracy?

What you have here is a HOLY WAR.
The enemy understands that perfectly.
We do not.

Those who carry the Covenant with the GOD of Abraham in this world (Jews,Christians and secular followers of the Noahide code)
versus those who carry the Covenant of Death into this world (Islam, Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Trooferism, etc etc etc infinity)

You want a conspiracy?
That's the mutha of 'em all.

And you have chosen the wrong side.
Willingly.

With your eyes and ears slammed shut.
TROOF!
FOOL!

317 KenJen  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:18:38pm

re: #28 WriterMom

What would it take to get this guy bounced out on his ass?

I mean actual political activity, e-mail, what is the procedure.

LET'S DO IT!

Better yet, bounced out on his emerit"anus".

318 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:24:21pm

And when their hero explains his denial of 'The Zionist Question" he does so by saying a whole bunch of nothing and then finishing up with:

he has to say nothing about it
because does not want to be attacked....by JEWS!

nudge nudge
wink wink
say no more


/Go fuck yourself, Jones.
And everyone who thinks like you.

I am sorry for posting so pissed off, Charles.

I'm going now, won't be back this time.

319 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:28:30pm

#315 KayMichelle

Kay, if Prince Chuckles announced he'd reverted to Islam, I doubt anybody would really be surprised. A lot of us have been onto the guy for years.

And, just because he announced that, I seriously doubt he'd be made Caliph of Britain, or given any real power. Again, Britain's been a problem jihad-wise for years. Some of us really have been aware of this, without the guidance of Mr. Jones, who'se more of a distraction from the WoT than he is a help. In fact, he's a positive hindrance.

320 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:32:38pm

#311 KayMichelle

I belief in an Islamist conspiracy, because the Islamists themselves have admitted it, on numerous occasions.

While Saudi money is too influential, and our State Department is a pack of idiots, I still don't see how this translates into some sort of US//Mossad/oil magnate/British aristocracy conspiracy, and nothing Alex Jones has ever presented has convinced me otherwise.

321 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:40:12pm

#310 KayMichelle

Kay, I already blame 9/11 on Global jihad. I have ever since 9/12/01.

What I don't believe is that our government---or Prince Charles---or anybody else (okay, maybe Saddam Hussein), or the Bilderbergs, or the Tooth Fairy helped them pull it off. The Saudis I'm suspicious of---but so are a lot of other people.

And you're moving the goal posts. First you say you don't take Prince Charles seriously, then you hint that he may be planning to announce his conversion to Islam, and that would have an incredible effect on the WoT. (Honestly, some of us have been making bets for years as to when he's going to get around to 'fessing up. And, even if he does, I don't see that this proves some sort of Euro-aristo conspiracy.)

I'm afraid you do believe, and that you find fake conspiracies a comforting distraction from the real bad stuff going on. This sort of hysterical burble isn't going to help, and will actually distract people from taking useful action.

322 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:40:54pm

WHY DID THEY FEEL THE QUESTION WAS NECESSARY TO ASK IF THERE IS NO ANTISEMITISM IN YOUR TROOFER WORLD?

You STILL have not answered it.

----------------


Again, because there is a different conspiracy theory - an Arab one - that says it was the JOOS. Whoever is asking the question is at a public seminar, where there are hostile questioners in attendance as well as those who agree with the speaker.

I don't know who it was, but to say that Alex Jones is antisemitic when he not only denies it - but also posts his denial on youtube for everyone to see... is just illogical. Alex Jones rants and raves about alot of things, but he does NOT rant and rave about "Jews". He doesn't deny the Holocaust, he is NOT a friend of Muslims. He is a Christian, a Texan, a patriot against foreign intervention in the U.S.

I think he is wrong - he puts 'globalist' as the puppeteers of the Global Jihadists. You and I see the 'globalists' as puppeteers of the Jihadis.

I see our government officials looking for a handout from the Saudis and the UAE - with cash in hand they sell out our country without a qualm. We agree much, much more than you will admit. Because that, in a nutshell, is the real conspiracy. I would like to see that investigated, wouldn't you? Of course you would! The only question is - will that come out in a "troother" investigation. It is possible, and since it is, I say yes. If we could uncover who is taking money from the oil barons, we might be able to kick them out and save our country. That is patriotic, not foolish.

323 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:46:05pm

#309 KayMichelle

If you'd like an answer, why don't you write to the authors of those books, and try surfing the net on your own?

(Do you really think Alex Jones, or this jerk on the UN Human Rights commission, who'se the subject of this thread, have any intelligent answers? Here's an answer! "CHOCOLATE!" That's a good answer, eh? If you want real answers, go to reliable sources to get them, don't just latch onto whatever latest paranoid theory's floating around out there.)

324 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:46:42pm

And you're moving the goal posts. First you say you don't take Prince Charles seriously, then you hint that he may be planning to announce his conversion to Islam, and that would have an incredible effect on the WoT. (Honestly, some of us have been making bets for years as to when he's going to get around to 'fessing up. And, even if he does, I don't see that this proves some sort of Euro-aristo conspiracy.)

==============


What I mean by this is that these patriot groups, whose self appointed leader is Alex Jones (the Troother people) will have to modify their theories when something like this happens. And not just these people, but also the eschatological Evangelical Christians, what many call "Christian Zionists".

THe point is that if this happens, which I bet it does, then the entire Evangelical community, the Troothers, and so on.. will have to admit that their 'end time theology' is taking a shift change to Global Jihad.

They think that Prince Charles is the antichrist, you know.

Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but there are millions of Evangelical Christians who follow the 'endtime' eschatology. It is for this reason why they support Israel.

325 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:53:53pm

re: #323 TalkinKamel

#309 KayMichelle

If you'd like an answer, why don't you write to the authors of those books, and try surfing the net on your own?

(Do you really think Alex Jones, or this jerk on the UN Human Rights commission, who'se the subject of this thread, have any intelligent answers? Here's an answer! "CHOCOLATE!" That's a good answer, eh? If you want real answers, go to reliable sources to get them, don't just latch onto whatever latest paranoid theory's floating around out there.)


Have you read Robert Baer's book? George Posners book? They are truly alarming. They don't talk about 'CHOCOLATE!'

326 KayMichelle  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 2:58:54pm

Alex Jones is also accused of being a Zionist agent.

It means nothing. He is not antisemitic. He is anti-globalist. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong.

327 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 3:15:29pm

KayMichelle

I've known quite a few evangelical Christians. None of them think Prince Charles is the Antichrist. They support Israel because they believe it to be the right thing to do, and because they believed it to be a decent, democratic country, worthy of support.

And with this little tirade about a brand new conspiracy---evangelical Christians who support Israel because of end time eschatology, you've officially entered the La-La Land, far as I'm concerned.

Yes, right along with Zionist conspiracies, globalists, Prince Charles and Atlantis, the ever-popular evangelical Christians support Israel because they want the world to come to an end conspiracy! (They're doubtless brainwashed into doing this by the Mossad----which is NOT to be taken as an antisemetic statement, Heaven forfend, it's an anti-globalist statement!) Furthermore, Christian evangelicals are all probably financed by Saudi oil money. I'm sure that's coming next. I'm leaving before it does.

(How the heck do you manage to tie Troofers in with evangelical Christians, by the way---don't answer, I really don't want to know.)

Kay, you missed my point about "chocolate"---my point being that it's not enough to want answers, you actually have to go looking for them, and they have to be the right ones. Just settling for any one that sounds good won't do.

I think you're getting the wrong answers. Take care. I'm outa here. (Shoulda left with BabbaZee.)

328 eaglewingz08  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 3:19:32pm

He should be up for the Mildewed Mind Law Professorship because his mind has totally degenerated into a useless mass of crap. I next expect him to call Pearl Harbour a false flag operation that benefitted the Dems and kept them in office for decades.

329 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 3:21:34pm
330 NTropy  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 4:02:15pm

Fiskie Falkie?

331 LizardoidCaptain  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 4:47:08pm

I'm sure there are many, if not most, who agree with Falk's sentiments in secret. This is the nature of collectivism, to conjure up mythical beasts of burden to project their deepest and darkest wishes and fantasies of domination and conspiracy.

It's kind of like a cheater who is always in distrusts his own loyal partner. Neoconism is a myth and a conjured beast of burden to host the creator's darkest desires of power and fear.

332 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 4:54:38pm

re: #330 NTropy

Fiskie Falkie?

For over-the-top Antisemitism in Academia?

333 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 10, 2008 5:07:47pm

#329 Ringo the Gringo

ROFLMAO!

334 Truesoldier  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:05:14am

This is such a slap in the face to all those who died on 9/11. It is time to throw the UN out of our nation.

335 Jed  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 6:13:33am

The UN is a cesspool of evil, filled by evil men and women.

The UN does not have the right to exist.

336 Sacred Plants  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 11:04:28am

Neocons? Which neocons?

When John Bolton told a Berlin audience that he wa "not a neoconservative" (later repeated on television) the crowd laughed their a---- off (unfortunately not repeated on television).

Certainly Susan Sontag has said a lot of irrelevant things (just like Salman Rushdie), but at one point she has hit a goldmine (just like Salman Rushdie, too):

It is the genius of the United States, a profoundly conservative country in ways that Europeans find difficult to fathom, to have devised a form of conservative thinking that celebrates the new rather than the old. But this is also to say, that in the very ways in which the United States seems extremely conservative - for example, the extraordinary power of the consensus and the passivity and conformism of public opinion (as Tocqueville remarked in 1831) and the media – it is also radical, even revolutionary, in ways that Europeans find equally difficult to fathom.

But where are the proud neoconservatives who dare to kiss goodbye the same old old?

337 Bacon4allah  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:51pm

Princeton produces these wackos like McDonalds produces burgers.
In the words of Al Pacino " If i was half the man I was 10 years ago, I'd take a flame thrower to this place".


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