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Zombie: Olympic Torch Protests

Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:27:51 pm PDT

Zombie’s photo essay on the Olympic Torch Tantrums in San Francisco is now up at PJ Media: Zombie Chronicles the Olympic Torch Relay in SF.

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1 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:28:24pm

GAZA YES!
TIBET NO!

2 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:29:04pm
3 Allah al Fubar  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:30:08pm

Zombie.. You rock!

/pardon my pun.. because allah is literally, a rock.

4 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:30:19pm
The Uyghurs had a surprisingly large turnout. Their cause is not widely known in the U.S. — the Uyghurs are a Muslim minority group in far western China that want independence, or at least greater autonomy. China labels Uyghur separatists as Islamic terrorists, though it’s doubtful there’s any substance to the accusation.

Don't they all.

All your majorities belong to us!

5 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:30:54pm
6 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:31:12pm

With the coverage of her/his "to long" photograph on Beck last night, I think zombie's about to go viral!

7 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:32:30pm

The Olymics and the Elections are going to steal the Pali's mojo.

Get ready for some whopper lies and propoganda and rhetoric coming out of the Pali camp.

They'll be starved for attention.

8 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:32:52pm

Zombie,

HOW MUCH IS THE DALIA LAMA PAYING YOU?!?!?!

9 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:32:59pm
10 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:33:16pm

To manage to stay sane in that sea of insanity is testament to your character, Zombie. Keep up the good work.

11 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:33:40pm

No Keffiyahs
No Orange jumpsuits
No Che

WOW. I was sure they were going to blame Bush and the jooos sooner or later.

nice job as usual zombie

12 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:34:10pm
I was intrigued by this guy’s sign and asked him if the swastikas were supposed to be the kind that are a Buddhist good luck symbol, since the color scheme seemed to suggest a Tibetan connection. Or, alternately were they, “y’know, the bad kind.” He looked a little puzzled and said “The bad kind,” then admitted he never knew they were ever used in any other context.

Lord help us.

Good thing he doesn't live in NYC.

There are swaztika designs on every other building.

The decoratice, pre-war ones, you freaks.

13 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:34:30pm

and I can't believe nobody had a Burma Shave sign

14 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:35:09pm

By far the scariest image; the Beijing Olympics official mascots.

[shudder]

15 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:35:13pm

I'm sorry, but I don't believe more than half the shit they're saying about CHina.

It's ISRAEL! ISRAEL I TELL YOU!

16 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:35:37pm
17 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:35:54pm

Well, one thing you can say about those protests -

They weren't dull.

18 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:35:56pm
Their cause is not widely known in the U.S. — the Uyghurs are a Muslim minority group in far western China that want independence, or at least greater autonomy. China labels Uyghur separatists as Islamic terrorists, though it’s doubtful there’s any substance to the accusation.

A while back I read an article in the NYT about some Uyghurs who were released from Gitmo but were sent to Bosnia since they could not go home.

19 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:36:26pm
At one point a large contingent of China supporters decided to challenge the Tibet supporters head on. Waving communist Chinese flags and carrying Olympics placards, they plunged into the heart of enemy territory, shouting taunts and insults.

You speak CHinese?

Maybe they were taking food orders.

20 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:36:42pm

Hey I didn't know ed was there

/snicker

21 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:37:23pm

re: #12 Ben Hur

Lord help us.

Good thing he doesn't live in NYC.

There are swaztika designs on every other building.

The decoratice, pre-war ones, you freaks.

Don't the pre-Nazi swastikas go in a different direction?

22 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:37:58pm

re: #21 MandyManners


Nein.

Ich dependen auf der design I thinken.

23 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:38:13pm

re: #20 shug

Hey I didn't know ed was there

/snicker

The French bastard? The punk? The other one?

24 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:39:10pm

The protest sign with the tank borne by Olympic rings was pretty damn good.

25 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:39:11pm

re: #21 MandyManners

Don't the pre-Nazi swastikas go in a different direction?


I was at magic mountain in Cali once (was not sober) and a friend had to stop me from breaking the car window of a car that had one with pretty ribbons on it hanging from the mirror.

No! NO! It's an American Indian sun god thing!

26 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:39:17pm

re: #22 Ben Hur

Nein.

Ich dependen auf der design I thinken.

I think I'm right. But, I could be wrong. I sometimes am, ya' know.

27 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:39:29pm

re: #23 MandyManners

The other one

/hiccup

28 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:39:42pm

re: #24 Occasional Reader


I thought so to.

Leave it to the Yid with lid.

29 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:03pm

re: #25 Ben Hur

I was at magic mountain in Cali once (was not sober) and a friend had to stop me from breaking the car window of a car that had one with pretty ribbons on it hanging from the mirror.

No! NO! It's an American Indian sun god thing!

Isn't it a Pesian/Asian thing?

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:16pm
Notice the Grade-A moron on the left, who made the brilliant decision to wear a Chairman Mao shirt to the rally, as some kind of birdbrained fashion statement — even though he was hanging around with the anti-Chinese Tibetan protesters. It takes a special kind of stupid to be that oblivious.


Zombie, that's priceless! He has to make it into the hall of shame!

31 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:27pm

re: #28 Ben Hur

Nice avatar. just noticed it.

32 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:28pm

re: #27 shug

/hiccup

*snicker*

33 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:48pm

Zombie:

WRT the photos showing guys and gals who normally support Palestinian terrorists, are troofers, and other L3 causes. These folks are like the broken clocks - they'll be right every so often, and it turns out that they got it right here.

34 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:40:55pm

Street protests, that will really teach the butchers of Beijing & Tian anMen Square to mess with people!

Make Pre-emptive street protests, Not War!

Kumbaya, everybody,
I'd like to teach the world to sing,
in perfect harmony.

Don't attend the opening ceremony, Pres. Bush--
let Jimmy Carter do the real "peace" work with Hamas.

35 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:41:05pm

re: #31 shug


Thanks.

36 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:41:17pm
37 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:41:59pm

Between the Chinese Olympics and the Democratic & Republican conventions, it looks to be a long hot summer.

Great reporting zombie.

You work just gets better and better.

I don't know how you do it all and keep a fulltime job as a Starbucks manager.

38 Occasional Reader  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:42:10pm

re: #19 Ben Hur

You speak CHinese?

Maybe they were taking food orders.

Or bragging about an ancient Chinese secret.

39 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:42:52pm

what about me? What About Me? WHAT ABOUT ME?

/Ewokistinian Abu Mazen.

40 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:42:56pm

"Why does politics have to be so complicated?"
Bravo! Five star comment.

41 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:43:31pm

re: #18 MandyManners

A while back I read an article in the NYT about some Uyghurs who were released from Gitmo but were sent to Bosnia since they could not go home.

* * *
Suuuuurrrrre they went to Bosnia--(they're probably the same Uighurs that sang at the Smithsonian Folklife Festival on the Washington Mall, on your tax dollar.)

42 Silhouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:43:56pm

For the pic captioned "Arguments between China supporters and detractors broke out all over the Embarcadero", why do I guess that the white woman is the supporter of communist China and the Asian looking man the detractor?

43 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:44:03pm

Why don't those pro-Mao bastards just GO HOME? What? They like the freedoms of America?

44 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:44:58pm

re: #41 alegrias

* * *
Suuuuurrrrre they went to Bosnia--(they're probably the same Uighurs that sang at the Smithsonian Folklife Festival on the Washington Mall, on your tax dollar.)

If I recall correctly, our government sent them there.

45 snowcrash  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:45:04pm

Good coverage of all the different protesters. The MSM just showed the Free Tibet crowd. BTW, I love the signs Another______for a free Tibet. Thanks Zombie.

46 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:45:21pm
In an odd way this was the most disturbing protest I’d ever been to — because it thoroughly reconfigured the traditional political landscape. I’m no fan of the Chinese government, and for the most part sympathized with the causes of the protesters. Because of this I ended up on the same side as people whom I normally loathe — such as this guy, who I’ve seen many times at anti-Israel protest and who has more than once revealed himself to be an anti-Semite. And here I am, agreeing with him on Tibet. Very unnerving.

It shows you how deep the David and Golaith syndrome goes.

He sees the Pali issue as 1.4 Billion Israelis (China) taking on 3 Palestinians (Tibatans).

Where in reality it's 6 million Israelis surrounded by 500 million Arabs.

47 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:45:25pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Zombie, that's priceless! He has to make it into the hall of shame!

I liked the "a special kind of stupid" remark.

Rotating title nomination.

zombie, thank you. You're always excellent, but this was most excellent.

48 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:45:43pm

Another Lemming for a Free Tibet

I'm sure none of them would have got it

49 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:45:48pm

Mao! Moa!

Great Deerhunter scene.

50 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:46:02pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Mark Krikorian (at the corner) had an interesting point of view on the varied Tibet-supporters the other day:

"But does anyone think we'd be seeing all this commotion over Tibet in Paris and San Francisco if the ChiComs were still in their Maoist stage, sending educated people to work in the countryside and spouting all that revolutionary class struggle baloney? Of course not. It's only because China's in its Pinochet/Franco stage that lefty "world opinion" now has its knickers in a twist about their hip imaginary Tibetan friends, the monks of Shangri-la. If you're a Tibetan trying to free your country from the clutches of the gangster regime in Peking, you'll take your allies wherever you can find them. But the trendiness and superficiality of this "free Tibet" business, from people who couldn't recognize Tibet if they tripped over it in the street, is striking."
51 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:46:16pm

re: #2 song_and_dance_man

The left are stupid.

That's an understatement.

/5 years to many

52 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:46:35pm
53 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:47:35pm

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

That's an understatement.

/5 years to many

But it's a special kind of stupid.

/I will be wearing this phrase out in meatworld conversations

54 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:47:42pm

ANOTHER Illitarit for a Free Tibet

55 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:47:48pm
Zombie is an undercover photographer. His work is displayed at Zombietime.

Oooo...False flag operation!

56 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:48:02pm

re: #54 shug

ANOTHER Illitarit for a Free Tibet

Lefty wants free stuff.

57 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:48:34pm

I think we lizards would have a field day with the Another ______ signs

58 NoSubmission  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:49:02pm

Phenomenal job, zombie!

59 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:49:07pm
In an odd way this was the most disturbing protest I’d ever been to — because it thoroughly reconfigured the traditional political landscape. I’m no fan of the Chinese government, and for the most part sympathized with the causes of the protesters. Because of this I ended up on the same side as people whom I normally loathe — such as this guy, who I’ve seen many times at anti-Israel protest and who has more than once revealed himself to be an anti-Semite. And here I am, agreeing with him on Tibet. Very unnerving.


Zombie should know better than any of us that these people are professional protesters and brainless lemmings. They'll show up anywhere and wave signs about anything. Broken clocks......

60 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:49:32pm

Wow. Great piece there. As much as I hate to say it, I can get behind almost all (except the one-man Kosovo protest) all the anti-China protests. And the great thing was, given that this was San Francisco, that none of them were nude --thank God.

Guess I'm a touch ambivalent here, though. I think that the '80 boycott of the Moscow summer games were right given the recent Afghan invasion by the USSR. What's going on in Tibet has been happening for more than 50's years and the recent crack-down by Beijing warrants stern condemnation and other actions - but not an Olympic boycott.

As for the Torch relay, I'm all for vociferous but respectful protests. Yell all you want from the sidelines, but why do you think it helps your cause to stop the relay. It's not like you're gonna stop the games from going ahead.

The world is going to see the real China when the games start. There is no way Beijing's security forces will be able to control all of the foreign press, unless the import North Korean contractors. And, not all of the foreign press will be sympathetic (thank God the Today show won't have Katie Couric over there!) You're going to get to see China - warts and all.

61 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:49:45pm

Another broken clock for a free tibet

62 Sol Roth  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:50:00pm

Damn hippies got a workout this time.

moths
to
Flame

63 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:50:58pm
64 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:03pm

re: #50 jaunte

Mark Krikorian (at the corner) had an interesting point of view on the varied Tibet-supporters the other day:

* * *
While Krikorian makes a good point, to compare Pinochet OR Franco with the Communist Chinese plutocrats who prop up North Korea's gulags is grotesque and ignorant.

Spain's Franco allowed the US to build military bases all over his damn country, and Hollywood types like Frank Sinatra and his beautiful wife lived and traveled in Franco's Spain for years.

How many Hollywood types live in China-supported North Korea's gulags?

Franco's latterday Spain was nothing like NorthKorea/China.

65 Silhouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:09pm
Notice the Grade-A moron on the left, who made the brilliant decision to wear a Chairman Mao shirt to the rally, as some kind of birdbrained fashion statement — even though he was hanging around with the anti-Chinese Tibetan protesters. It takes a special kind of stupid to be that oblivious.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I cannot stop laughing.

66 erevu  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:13pm

I realize I'm just some schmuck on the internet, but I did want to mention that I have respect for the "tantrums" involving speaking against what the Chinese are doing to Tibet, as opposed to the vile tantrums that the activist left usually engages in. I hope a fire is lit under the asses of the Beijing government.

67 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:41pm

re: #60 calcajun

And the great thing was, given that this was San Francisco, that none of them were nude --thank God.


Unless inflatable scrotum man is there, it's no a serious event.
/

68 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:43pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Notice the Grade-A moron on the left, who made the brilliant decision to wear a Chairman Mao shirt to the rally, as some kind of birdbrained fashion statement — even though he was hanging around with the anti-Chinese Tibetan protesters. It takes a special kind of stupid to be that oblivious.

Zombie, that's priceless! He has to make it into the hall of shame!


The BEST part is that the anti Chinese protesters don't seem to notice Mao's face in their midst

Now THATS beyond a "special kind of stupid"

69 Allah al Fubar  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:51pm

Ancient Chinese Secret, Huh?

And women buy their bath soaps that will "make skin smooth and shiney"!

70 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:51:59pm

Stuff lefty don't want free:

* REAL freedom of speech. Lefty loves power to the correct people.
* Will. Lefty loves dictating your life.
* Taiwan. Lefty thinks Mao should have Taiwan.
* Israel. Lefty wants Israel dismembered.

71 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:52:14pm

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

CODE PINK was left out of the loop.

Okay that's an image I did NOT need thankyouverymuch.

72 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:52:23pm

Woo Hoo. My hubby is is in, he's in! Thanks Charles. Now if I can just figure out where the new e-mail folder I created for him is, and confirm his registration, he can post. LOL, we are technically challenged.

Zombie, what a fabulous job!

73 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:52:50pm
74 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:52:58pm

Hmmm, looks good, but (I suppose for bandwidth reasons) PJ Media smallified all my photos to about 60% of their original size! Man, those pictures look mighty small!

Well, eventually, after giving PJ a time for exclusivity, I'll possibly add an extra-bonus report to zombietime with the full-size glorious pictures!

Also: video! Working on that now. Got some very nice videos of the action. My absolute favorite one is a crazed pro-Tibet moonbat (with whom I agree unfortunately) who was ranting at a passing dragon-dance team, and for two solid minutes she said one long word without ever seeming to inhale:

ChinaLiesPeopleDieChinaLiesPeopleDieChinaLiesPeopl eDieChinaLiesPeopleDieChinaLiesPeopleDieChinaLiesP eopleDieFreeTibetNowFreeTibetNowFreeTibetNowFreeTi betNowFreeTibetNowFreeTibetNowFreeTibetNowFreeTibe tNowShameOnChinaShameOnChinaShameOnChinaShameOnChi naShameOnChinaShameOnChinaShameOnChinaShameOnChina ShameOnChinaShameOnChinaShameOnChina...

...ad infinitum.

She's probably still there, still saying the endless word.

75 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:53:14pm

registration is open.

Incoming!

76 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:53:53pm

re: #8 Ben Hur

Zombie,

HOW MUCH IS THE DALIA LAMA PAYING YOU?!?!?!

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.

77 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:54:27pm

re: #75 shug

registration is open.

Incoming!


Well, there goes the neighborhood.

78 cowboysnmuslims  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:54:29pm

Zombie stalked the crowds that gathered to protest China's oppression of Tibet. Here is his exclusive photo essay.

Ha. Are they sure about that?

Nice catch.
You know what they say about assumptions.....

79 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #76 zombie

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.


oh, there will be no payment

but when you die

on your deathbed

you will receive total consciousness

80 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #76 zombie

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.

He hasn't got any pockets in those robes.

81 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:54:53pm

re: #76 zombie

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.

Dhalia Lama is a potted plant.

Dalai Lama is a whole other thing.

82 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:08pm

re: #9 taxfreekiller

must be more of the failure of global warming

no naked protesters

They actually were there, but I think they didn't disrobe until after I had already run off after the torch. I waited and waited for them, to no avail.

83 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:34pm

big hitter the lama


long

84 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:43pm

re: #80 Ward Cleaver

re: #76 zombie

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.

He hasn't got any pockets in those robes.


No, but he has Jack Bauer's man-bag!

85 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:44pm

re: #11 shug

No Keffiyahs
No Orange jumpsuits
No Che

WOW. I was sure they were going to blame Bush and the jooos sooner or later.

nice job as usual zombie

There were kaffiyehs. I even put one in the report.

86 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:50pm

re: #64 alegrias

True, quite dissimilar; he should have simply said 'state authoritarian' or something like it, instead of making an unsupportable comparison. I think his main point was that most of the Tibet [protestors were very likely, a few years ago to go carrying pictures of chairman Mao.

87 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:55:52pm

re: #76 zombie

NOT ENOUGH, THAT CHEAPSKATE.

Local radio host wanted to know where the Dalai Lama was getting funding. Said brass bell sales couldn't possibly keep pace with the DL's world-travel expenses. Wondered if the DL had bank accounts and investments from previous lives. ;)

88 Winslow  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:56:26pm

This Zombie

This animated corpse of rotting flesh,
This phantom operative of LGF
That serves it in the office of an eye,
As on the opposition it does spy,
This fell and feral photographing fiend,
This spook that sees and yet remains unseen,
This lifeless, deathless, heartless, soulless ghost
That feeds upon the teeming leftist host,
This demon-seed, this heathen voodoo-child,
This resurrected carcass running wild,
This moonbat-stalking, undead walking beast
That on the brains of lunatics does feast,
This heinous and unholy hound from Hell
That doggedly pursues its prey so well,
This specter that redemption cannot save,
This diabolic relic from the grave,
This creature so cadaverous and cruel,
This curs&egraved thing, this wraith, this ghoul, this zombie.

89 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:56:44pm

re: #79 shug

Nunga ganunga nunga.

90 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:57:18pm

re: #89 calcajun

Nunga ganunga nunga.

I take it that is Tibetan for "Rosebud".

91 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:57:24pm

re: #88 Winslow

Somewhere in Heaven, Shakespeare just vomited.

92 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:57:30pm
93 snowcrash  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:57:37pm

I see zombie as a 6ft tall Grace Jones look alike, not a he!

94 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:57:54pm

re: #46 Ben Hur

It shows you how deep the David and Golaith syndrome goes.

He sees the Pali issue as 1.4 Billion Israelis (China) taking on 3 Palestinians (Tibatans).

Where in reality it's 6 million Israelis surrounded by 500 million Arabs.

Or he just hates Joos

95 Silhouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:58:04pm

Even when they are protesting a real evil, they look ridiculous.

Almost enough to make me think China is good. But not quite.

96 cowboysnmuslims  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:58:07pm

Sorry,

BenHur #55; props for the catch.

97 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:58:24pm

re: #85 zombie

oops. I missed it the first time around.

whew

98 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:58:51pm

re: #93 snowcrash

I see zombie as a 6ft tall Grace Jones look alike, not a he!

I think of zombie as Bilbo (or Bilba) Baggins, packing a Ring of Power that makes its owner invisible at will.

99 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:58:56pm

re: #90 OldLineTexan

It was the Lama's words of wisdom to Carl Spackler in lieu of a caddy's tip.

100 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:02pm

Good Day Lizards! It's been raining in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago --we knew the good weather wouldn't last --it's tough around here ;)

My kid and I are home sick -- and have been watching movies today. He turned on a Mel Gibson movie called "The Conspiriacy Theory". The open is Mel driving a cab spouting all the "theories" to his captive passengers. IN the Mel wide-eyed rant, they were put in their proper perspective.

How are you-all this morning and what are we talking about?

101 doppelganglander  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:05pm

Great work, zombie. I too find it pretty disconcerting that I'm on the same side on the China issue(s) as people who think Dick Cheney drinks the blood of Palestinian babies.

102 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:17pm

re: #19 Ben Hur

You speak CHinese?

Maybe they were taking food orders.

The taunts were in English. (And Mandarin, which I can understand a teeny bit of.) I heard, seriously, "Tibet is stupid!" and "Go home -- you know nothing!" and "Who pays you to do this?"

103 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:27pm
104 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:28pm

re: #99 calcajun

It was the Lama's words of wisdom to Carl Spackler in lieu of a caddy's tip.

Need to watch that movie again.

105 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 12:59:55pm

re: #95 Silhouette

I think if Tibet was free, they would be opposed to those conservative monks and nuns having too much of a say in their own country.

106 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:00:11pm

re: #100 ggt

Good Day Lizards! It's been raining in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago --we knew the good weather wouldn't last --it's tough around here ;)

My kid and I are home sick -- and have been watching movies today. He turned on a Mel Gibson movie called "The Conspiriacy Theory". The open is Mel driving a cab spouting all the "theories" to his captive passengers. IN the Mel wide-eyed rant, they were put in their proper perspective.

How are you-all this morning and what are we talking about?

That's a good movie...until it turns out they are after him, LOL.

107 maddogg  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:00:49pm

Sheesh! Don't those Tibetans know ANYTHING about protesting? Where are the Boobs (gravitationally challenged) not bombs broads? Where are the paper mache dolls? WHERE THE HELL IS INFLATED SCROTUM MAN?

Seriously, Zombie, this post shows a lot of work. I congratulate you on a high quality job.

Communist regimes have no soul.

108 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:05pm

re: #100 ggt

Are you feeling any better?

109 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:11pm

re: #29 MandyManners

Bit of history here...

110 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:15pm

re: #102 zombie

The taunts were in English. (And Mandarin, which I can understand a teeny bit of.) I heard, seriously, "Tibet is stupid!" and "Go home -- you know nothing!" and "Who pays you to do this?"

Ahhh...for the ears of the press!

111 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:34pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Notice the Grade-A moron on the left, who made the brilliant decision to wear a Chairman Mao shirt to the rally, as some kind of birdbrained fashion statement — even though he was hanging around with the anti-Chinese Tibetan protesters. It takes a special kind of stupid to be that oblivious.


Zombie, that's priceless! He has to make it into the hall of shame!

I'm now almost two years behind on the Hall of Shame.

I'm going to need an entire Skyscraper of Shame at this rate.

112 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:01:36pm

re: #107 maddogg

Communist regimes have no soul.

And they have no rhythm, either.

113 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:02:02pm

masters coming on!

114 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:02:25pm

oustanding work, Zombie!

p.s. I called my Dad last night and told him to look for the Zombie Photo on Glen Beck last night. We both saw it and share a laugh over the phone at lunch time today.

Dad told me, "You must be connected or something....."

We both had a good chuckle.

115 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:02:59pm

re: #75 shug

LOL! I sneaked in this morning. One of them door lizards gave me a funny look -- "Penguin? OooooooooooooK..."

116 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:03:08pm

re: #113 shug

Do you mean the golf tournament, or Big Brother (the "1984" kind)

117 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:03:29pm

[Link: www.chilloutzone.de...]

America sucks, btw.

118 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:03:48pm

re: #37 Ringo the Gringo

Great reporting zombie.

You work just gets better and better.

I don't know how you do it all and keep a fulltime job as a Starbucks manager.

I'm not Manager yet! Larry says if I clean 1,000 more toilets and make 5,000 more frappucinos, I'll become eligible for Assistant Manager.

Whoo-hoo!

119 Spirit93  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:04:10pm

What a circus!

And once again Zombie puts the MSM to shame.

Excellent report Zombie, congratulation!

And thanks.

120 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:04:18pm

China has been a global thug since 1950. They abuse and murder their own people, treat the Koreans with utter contempt, kill religious minorities, aid the tyrants in North Korea and Sudan, sell cheap, lead-based crap to Western consumers (please note they won't buy their own toys for their own kids) and just basically act like big, ignorant thugs. Well done for anyone who can blow the lid off of their slick, smug and evil veneer.
What was anyone thinking giving them the games in the first place?
Now, if Stephen Harper can stop being a weasel and boycott the games....

121 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:04:27pm

re: #117 Ben Hur

[Link: www.chilloutzone.de...]

America sucks, btw.

And here I thought I had rough commute.

122 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:05:24pm

re: #42 Silhouette

For the pic captioned "Arguments between China supporters and detractors broke out all over the Embarcadero", why do I guess that the white woman is the supporter of communist China and the Asian looking man the detractor?

You are 100% wrong. She was a Tibet supporter, he was an aggressive communist agent/thug.

Like I said, it was topsy-turvy world out there!

123 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:05:37pm

So, why weren't all these people protesting BEFORE the Olympic Committee chose China? Why weren't they protesting China 5 (?) years ago about Darfur?

At this point, I think the kids (athletes) shouldn't be used as pawns in a political game. Most of them don't have 4 years to wait to compete again.

124 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:05:45pm

re: #119 Spirit93

What a circus!

And once again Zombie puts the MSM to shame.

Excellent report Zombie, congratulation!

And thanks.

The MSM doesn't want you to see these things with any detail.

Just like their not showing 9/11.

They know what's better for your sensitive, empty, easily manipulated to be Nazi brain.

125 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:06:23pm

re: #45 snowcrash

BTW, I love the signs Another______for a free Tibet. Thanks Zombie.

I got about 15 more hilarious ones. No room for them in this version of the report.

126 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:06:28pm

The Vietnamese contingent is a little odd. They are carrying the flag of Viet Nam & some are carrying the red & yellow flags of the old republic of South Viet Nam,.

127 yitzy  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:06:32pm

Excellent work Zombie! I read the whole thing.

128 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:06:50pm

Listen up hatchlings.

You buy, and clean up after the FNDT. While your serving read the FAQ and dictionary, mighty helpful, they'll save you a lot of grief. Clicking on an avatar will tell you how old and how big a lizard is. Clutch had a help hint a couple weeks ago, read it.

Remember this is Charles' house.

Oh! Welcome!

129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:07:09pm

re: #16 taxfreekiller

This is why the space ships do not land.
No one wants to get involved with this crap.

They just enter the atmosphere and take a look and flash their gone.


I had a buddy in college who was convinced that there's a big turnstyle in orbit around Earth, and that the aliens are charging admission to come on down & take a look at all the weirdos. Of which he proudly counted himself a member.

130 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:07:23pm

re: #108 jaunte

Yes, thank you for asking. Tamiflu is a wonderful drug if you can get on it in time. 2 days of pure awfulness --yesterday was better --today my temperature is staying under 100 and I can stay awake for more than a hour.

I truly hope no-one else gets this bug. I haven't been this sick since college.

131 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:08:07pm

re: #47 OldLineTexan

I liked the "a special kind of stupid" remark.

Rotating title nomination.

zombie, thank you. You're always excellent, but this was most excellent.

You should see it with full-size glorious pictures! Eye-popping!

You will maybe in a week or so, with 90 bonus pictures as well!

132 debutaunt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:08:27pm

re: #24 Occasional Reader

The protest sign with the tank borne by Olympic rings was pretty damn good.

Excellent! Hillary standing in front of the tank, her life in grave danger.

133 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:08:44pm

re: #117 Ben Hur

Cripes. When it's time to disembark, it must be straight out of "A Night at the Opera"

134 Silhouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:00pm

re: #122 zombie

You are 100% wrong.

Dang, that's harsh. Couldn't you have just said, "Naaah."? It was a 50/50 chance.

;-)

135 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:07pm
This is why the space ships do not land.
No one wants to get involved with this crap.

They just enter the atmosphere and take a look and flash their gone.

Could be why I flirt with Deism.

The Deism of, He made the boat, put the boat in the water, pushed it out to sea, and is watching to see what happens.

136 doppelganglander  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:08pm

Do you suppose I could get a t-shirt that says "Another Typical White Person for a Free Tibet?"

137 Iron Fist  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:26pm

re: #14 Occasional Reader,

They're like little Communist Teletubbies.

[Shudder]

138 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:45pm

re: #52 song_and_dance_man

Ha. Are they sure about that?

No! I don't know where they got that -- jumped to conclusions, I guess. I never gave them a clue.

139 ointmentfly  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:09:54pm

So what is it going to be Looney Leftists.?.. A free Tibet or eradicating communism?...

140 Roger  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:10:38pm

Quite cardiovascular this one, zombie!

141 jaunte  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:11:48pm

re: #130 ggt

Hope you're back to full speed soon!
Bye for now; work is calling....

142 calcajun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:12:03pm

re: #139 ointmentfly

Buy one Nepal and get a Free Tibet!

143 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:12:14pm

Egypt arrests 9 journalists following economic riots

George Bush is a fascist dictator!
Israel is a Nazi apartheid state!

144 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:12:26pm

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

CODE PINK was left out of the loop.

They were there. I purposely excluded them, because I was sick of them.

Cindy Sheehan was there too. Seriously mentally ill with an incurable case of Hyper-Narcissism.

145 Jinx  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:12:49pm

How the US handled the torch relay was thoroughly disappointing. Altering the route, shortening it, and allowing the blue suits there was a disgrace. Some people went there for a once in a lifetime event to see the torch, and now they may never see it. Pathetic.

How France and England handled it was just as thoroughly disgusting. I don't care if you protest and pitch a shit fit. So long as you stay within certain boundaries. You do not have the right to attack the athletes bearing the torch. You do not have the right to try and put out the flame. That is pitiful.

I admire Japan for their stance of not allowing the blue suits to run alongside the torch. As they said: Protecting the torch is our job. I hope the Japanese will set the standard and show how it should be handled.

Before the debacle in SF and the Chinese dictating what the athletes can and cannot say, I was against a boycott. Now I'm not so sure. This may be a once in a lifetime event for the participating athletes, but so was it in the 80's when the US boycotted the Olympics in the Soviet Union, yet it was still boycotted.

146 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:12:57pm
Egyptian freedom of speech scrutinized yet again as authorities order arrests of journalists, photographers, bloggers covering riots in northern city of Mahalla. Rights groups slam arrests

BUSH!

GARGAAGIAGIOAOGJOAJALSJFALSJFALSIGLASLRASRJLASRJAL SR!

147 crown_of_feathers  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:13:02pm

re: #120 Joan Not of Arc

"China has been a global thug since 1950"

Yes, but fortunately the United Nations has issued a gazillion resolutions against China, just so the world keeps the Tibet issue on the "front-burner".

Uh...sorry about that...make that a gaZERO resolutions from the U.N.

148 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:13:32pm

Re: Uyghurs (pronounced "Wiggers')
They are a very interesting culture. Although Muslim they are a very sensual people. I was there during Ramadahn so the streets had a real party atmosphere after the sun went down with everybody breaking their fast. I'm not even so sure most of them were fasting during the day, I had the impression it was the tradition of breaking the fast at night was more important than the fast itself. Lots of street music and singing.
They also have a tradition that when a girl comes of age she gets her own room attached to the house with it's own entrance. This "courting house" is where male suitors come to visit. I asked a young Uyghur girl to sing me a song. After she finished I asked her what the song was about and she said it was a traditional girl's courting song. The lyrics were something like "I like your beauty and form, I want to invite you into my tent and beat you gently with my whip". She said this without blushing.
They're good people.

149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:13:47pm

re: #139 ointmentfly

So what is it going to be Looney Leftists.?.. A free Tibet or eradicating communism?...

Perfect Communism would mean a free Tibet. China only got bad after they began to loosen up their Communist economy in favor of a capitalist one.
/moonbat off - but seriously, Tibet has been under direct Chinese control since the 1950s, but no trendy liberal cared until the late 80s, when they started to liberalize their economy.

150 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:13:54pm

Hmmmm... get ready for yet another Obamarama quote on Small Town America - via speeches given regularly in PA and elsewhere:

"And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Excuse me, but the folks who seem most bitter are the lefties/Democrats who want power at all costs, including talking down the economy, playing class warfare, and otherwise denigrate small town America unless they need votes, in which case pandering is what the commissars order.

151 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:14:35pm

re: #139 ointmentfly

So what is it going to be Looney Leftists.?.. A free Tibet or eradicating communism?...

They don't see the connection. They're communism is utopian, the Chinese have screwed it up. They fail to recognize communism is fundamentally screwed up, and any practice will also be screwed up.

152 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:14:39pm
Also on Friday, James Buck, an American freelance journalist detained in Egypt the previous day over his coverage of the riots, said he had been released but was staying in a police station to protest the arrest of his translator.

Meanwhile, London-based Amnesty International said it was disturbed by the killings of two Egyptians during the rioting in Mahalla el-Kobra and the arrests of pro-democracy activists after unrest sparked by rising food prices.

ISRAEL!

Garrtafagagagasfkjaslfjlalalaaallululululullu!

153 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:14:41pm

re: #128 jcm

Did someone tell them to clean up their shells?

And to use the sarc tag?

Oh, and I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar.

154 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:15:09pm
155 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:15:20pm

re: #144 zombie

They were there. I purposely excluded them, because I was sick of them.

Cindy Sheehan was there too. Seriously mentally ill with an incurable case of Hyper-Narcissism.

Leaving out Cindy Sheehan is a public service. Thank you

156 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #137 Iron Fist

MUHAHAHAHAAA!

157 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:16:10pm
Rising prices have struck hard in Egypt, a US ally where 20 percent of the country's population of 76 million lives below the poverty line of around US$2 a day.

Democracy and Capitalism suck!

AMERIKKKA SUX!

ISRAEL! AAARARRRRRCCCRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!

BEHEAD SUCCESS!

158 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:16:11pm
China labels Uyghur separatists as Islamic terrorists, though it’s doubtful there’s any substance to the accusation.

Zombie, this may be the first time I've ever disagreed with anything you've written. There's a very good post on the Uyghurs at the American Thinker today about the jihadist threat there.

159 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:17:10pm

Uyghurs are a Zionist plot.

160 Daisy  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:17:17pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

re: what zombie noted: "Notice the Grade-A moron on the left, who made the brilliant decision to wear a Chairman Mao shirt to the rally, as some kind of birdbrained fashion statement — even though he was hanging around with the anti-Chinese Tibetan protesters. It takes a special kind of stupid to be that oblivious."

I won't speculate about the various ethnic Chinese positions on China as valid/invalid - and it's a safe bet that the Tibetans are throughly disgusted w/Red China -- but the ridiculous Moonbat w/the Mao shirt I feel confident about: He is most likely 'for' 'saving' Tibet all while happily rooting "for" Commies. With Moonbats, it's all about what's the latest fashion. For Moonbats, protest gatherings are Spring mating rituals. Not that he looks like the sort of guy who would pick up the check on a date -- but this is even better, he pays nothing.

161 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:17:29pm

Another Mother smearing the good name of her son who died fighting for his country for a Free Tibet

162 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:17:52pm

re: #153 ggt

Did someone tell them to clean up their shells?

And to use the sarc tag?

Oh, and I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar.

1. With so many peanut shells that can wait till they clean up after the FNDT.

2. In the dictionary.

3. Hatchlings, ggt has a drink request, look sharp!

163 coquimbojoe  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:18:15pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Not to put a too fine point on it, but better said is Wee-gers.

164 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:18:15pm

Chinese mosques are interesting too. They don't have the traditional Islamic taboo on depicting living creatures so the decorations and carvings are of animals, birds and even people. Most of the Mosques have a token muslim (no doubt paid by the government) to answer questions to tourists. The Chinese love to talk about religion any chance they get because it's mostly a forbidden topic.

165 bosforus  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:18:42pm
An unexplained delay allowed me to catch my breath.


Was that one of the times you "took a breather" on the sidewalk.

166 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:18:59pm

re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's about Uranium. There are many precous resources in Tibet. China is not going to give it up.

167 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:19:01pm
Egypt's highest ranking Muslim imam, Sheik Mohammad Seyed Tantawi said in a sermons during Friday prayers that those inciting riots deserve punishment and that their acts amount to "sabotage." He was quoted by the state MENA news agency as saying that this "Is criminal and deserves extreme punishment from God and people."

JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

168 coquimbojoe  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:20:05pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

When I lived in Taiwan there was a mosque behind my apartment. They were the biggest jerks I met while there.....

169 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:20:12pm

re: #107 maddogg

Sheesh! Don't those Tibetans know ANYTHING about protesting? Where are the Boobs (gravitationally challenged) not bombs broads? Where are the paper mache dolls? WHERE THE HELL IS INFLATED SCROTUM MAN?

But they have cute girls, which are actually more efficacious as far as luring in sympathizers in concerned.

170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:20:32pm

Completely OT, but anyone know how long it takes to get your tax rebate check (not the "stimulus package" one) from the IRS after you mail your forms?

171 ArmyWife  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:20:45pm

OT -

In more news of the bizarre - Barry O explains to the little people on why they like religion and such (because of job loss, doncha know)

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Just wow.


PS Zombie Rocks

172 TalkinKamel  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:21:00pm

Good job, Zombie!

173 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:21:03pm

re: #162 jcm

On it.

*bustling*

Here ya go!

174 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:21:06pm
175 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:21:42pm

re: #117 Ben Hur

[Link: www.chilloutzone.de...]

America sucks, btw.

In Japan at one point, they actually employed pushers at the more crowded subway stops.

176 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:22:06pm

re: #171 ArmyWife

OT -

In more news of the bizarre - Barry O explains to the little people on why they like religion and such (because of job loss, doncha know)


Just wow.


PS Zombie Rocks

You mean they blame Whitey and the Joos?

177 akak  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:22:18pm

Arlen Spector just called McDem McCain an independent....lol

178 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:22:56pm
179 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:23:10pm

re: #169 zombie

But they have cute girls, which are actually more efficacious as far as luring in sympathizers in concerned.

No kidding. I stopped to watch a Falon Gong demonstration in NY simply because one of the women handing out pamphlets was just breathtaking.

180 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:23:34pm

re: #162 jcm

jcm --not peanut shells silly -- hatchling shells. They stink after a while.

;)

181 crown_of_feathers  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:23:44pm

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Do you mean how long it takes to get a tax refund?

Check this out:
[Link: www.irs.gov...]

182 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:02pm

VEXILLOLOGIST

183 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:04pm

re: #171 ArmyWife

What's amazing is the number of people defending Barry in the comments section of the piece.

184 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:11pm

re: #178 song_and_dance_man

I'M RIGHT HEEEEEEEERE!

/still too small to be seen by the bigger lizardoids

185 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:19pm

Great work Zombie..


God I hope the US never ever is awarded an Olympiad again, the protests will be insane.

186 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:45pm

re: #158 SeafoodGumbo

See my #148. I had a very different experience. I was there for about 2-3 weeks and never saw a single burka. They are culturally very different from other Muslims. There have been attacks linked to Uyghur separatists but they are very rare. I'm sure the Ummah would love to see it turn into another Chechnya so I'd guess that there might be foreign jihadis sent in to stir things up.

187 EC Marm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:50pm

re: #178 song_and_dance_man

Still open.

Where are all the typical green hatchlings?


Gotta a bad feeling about this overly long open registration. When they don't come out and announce themselves, they tend to be problems that pop up suddenly and nastily.

188 snowcrash  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:24:51pm

re: #178 song_and_dance_man
I think we have been open since after 11:30 CST!

189 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:25:10pm

re: #181 crown_of_feathers

Cool!

I never, ever, thought I would say that about an IRS webpage. I think I need to go lie down.

190 maddogg  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:25:20pm

re: #169 zombie

But they have cute girls, which are actually more efficacious as far as luring in sympathizers in concerned.

Certainly. They're Asian = not stupid :)

191 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:25:48pm

re: #184 Fat Jolly Penguin

Fat Jolly, buy him a beer, then he'll notice you..

welcome aboard.

192 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:07pm

re: #184 Fat Jolly Penguin

Hey Penguin. Are you related to Chubby Vegan?

193 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:09pm

re: #190 maddogg

Certainly. They're Asian = not stupid :)

racist!

194 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:10pm
195 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:21pm

re: #134 Silhouette

Dang, that's harsh. Couldn't you have just said, "Naaah."? It was a 50/50 chance.

;-)

Actually, there were practically no white people at all on the pro-China side. Aside from some of the kung fu school performers who were part of the official Olympics entertainment, if you saw a white person at the event, you can pretty much rest assured they were anti-China.

196 ointmentfly  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:26pm

re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #151 jcm

Another way of looking at it is to wonder what a free Tibet would look like without China living along side China. Would China trade freely? No. They might not control the Tibetian people, but I am sure they would make sure Tibet was a dump.

Tibet or Tiawan won't be "free" until China is a democracy. I am not holding my breath.

Point being that liberals like the issues, but really couldn't give a frogs fat ass about the people...

197 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:26:58pm

zombie,

CODE PINK was left out of the loop.

They were there. I purposely excluded them, because I was sick of them.


Good.

198 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:27:09pm
Tibet or Tiawan won't be "free" until China is a democracy.

It's hard to imagine Democracy controlling soooo many people.

199 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:27:10pm

re: #136 doppelganglander

Do you suppose I could get a t-shirt that says "Another Typical White Person for a Free Tibet?"

Now we're getting somewhere.

I get 5% of the net profit.

200 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:28:18pm

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Completely OT, but anyone know how long it takes to get your tax rebate check (not the "stimulus package" one) from the IRS after you mail your forms?

The closer to tax time the longer. Last year I did direct deposit and filed a few days before the deadline, about 3 weeks. Mailed checks this late up to six weeks.

201 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:28:22pm

re: #185 so.cal.swede

Gubenor Daley wants it bad for Chicago. It will justify all his nefarious activities and divert attention.

202 Iron Fist  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:28:25pm

re: #156 Fat Jolly Penguin,

Very amusing. All I know about the horrors of the Teletubbies, I know second hand. From what I hear, I'm glad of that :-)

203 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:28:30pm

re: #140 Roger

Quite cardiovascular this one, zombie!

You can say that!

Took me quite a while to wash off all the blood, too. I was pretty well soaked.

204 EtNorskTroll  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:28:38pm

#63 song_and_dance_man 4/11/08 12:50:58 pm reply quote report 0

re: #60 calcajun

And the great thing was, given that this was San Francisco, that none of them were nude --thank God.

CODE PINK was left out of the loop.


I will thank you to not make me think of Code Pink members in the nude.

Thanks.

From the bottom of my heart: Thank you.

~ENT

205 so.cal.swede  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:29:14pm

re: #195 zombie

Actually, there were practically no white people at all on the pro-China side. Aside from some of the kung fu school performers who were part of the official Olympics entertainment, if you saw a white person at the event, you can pretty much rest assured they were anti-China.

the dude in front looks white... my eyes are bad though

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

206 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:29:14pm

re: #192 ggt

207 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:29:32pm

re: #196 ointmentfly

re: #151 jcm

Another way of looking at it is to wonder what a free Tibet would look like without China living along side China. Would China trade freely? No. They might not control the Tibetian people, but I am sure they would make sure Tibet was a dump.

Tibet or Tiawan won't be "free" until China is a democracy. I am not holding my breath.

Point being that liberals like the issues, but really couldn't give a frogs fat ass about the people...

Bingo! Tibet is a symptom, the ChiComs are the disease.

208 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:29:58pm

re: #206 Fat Jolly Penguin

OMG, it ate my reply! I said "nope."

209 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:30:42pm
210 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:30:44pm

Why doesn't Tawain get the same love as Tibet?

I mean, Tibet IS a part of China.

211 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:31:10pm

re: #144 zombie

They were there. I purposely excluded them, because I was sick of them.

Cindy Sheehan was there too. Seriously mentally ill with an incurable case of Hyper-Narcissism.

If she throw herself into the Olympic flame in protest, I'd buy her ticket.

212 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:31:35pm

Anyone notice that a Zombie thread mostly always means an "open registration" thread too?

213 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:32:04pm

re: #209 song_and_dance_man

Those are the best kind. They get the mackrel smacked out of
'em and depart.

The best troll is the one you don't hear from.

214 The Old Pike-fish  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:32:18pm

This must be my favourite Zombie report ever. Especially the commentary is great. It really provides you with an insight into what was going on.

Great work Zombie!

215 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:32:51pm

re: #211 jcm

If she throw herself into the Olympic flame in protest, I'd buy her ticket.

Is there room under there for Barry's grandma?

216 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:33:26pm

re: #209 song_and_dance_man

Or they appear, make an ass of themselves by challenging everyone on a thread and then, poof, we never see them again.

What happened to the guy vvv.U2,or something like that?
Did he ever come back?

217 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:33:36pm

Friday Fatwa.....
Alcohol fatwa sparks controversy


A prominent Egyptian cleric has created controversy by issuing a fatwa that says tiny amounts of alcohol are permissible in Islam.

Yusuf al-Qaradawi's fatwa says a level of 0.5% is allowed, whereas most Muslims would say alcohol of any quantity is banned.


Change!

218 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:34:02pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Re: Uyghurs (pronounced "Wiggers')
They are a very interesting culture. Although Muslim they are a very sensual people. I was there during Ramadahn so the streets had a real party atmosphere after the sun went down with everybody breaking their fast. I'm not even so sure most of them were fasting during the day, I had the impression it was the tradition of breaking the fast at night was more important than the fast itself. Lots of street music and singing.
They also have a tradition that when a girl comes of age she gets her own room attached to the house with it's own entrance. This "courting house" is where male suitors come to visit. I asked a young Uyghur girl to sing me a song. After she finished I asked her what the song was about and she said it was a traditional girl's courting song. The lyrics were something like "I like your beauty and form, I want to invite you into my tent and beat you gently with my whip". She said this without blushing.
They're good people.

I actually attended a Uyghur dinner recently (open to VIPs only!) From what I could tell most of them are basically MINOs -- Muslim in name only. The women wore western clothes and makeup. The men wore suits. No one said the word "Allah" all night.

It's actually a bit complicated, though, because there are Mongol Uyghurs and Turkic Uyghurs. The Mongol ones are even less religious. If there are any fundamentalist Uyghurs, it's probably the Turkic ones.

219 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:34:19pm

re: #199 zombie

Now we're getting somewhere.

I get 5% of the net profit.


you will have to notify people at pajamas media that they need to get rid of this line:

Zombie is an undercover photographer. His work is displayed at......

220 Varanus  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:34:33pm

re: #212 unrealizedviewpoint

Anyone notice that a Zombie thread mostly always means an "open registration" thread too?

AHA! Now i'm a monitor lizard! bwahahahahahhaaaaa

221 bulwrk  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:34:42pm

re: #210 Ben Hur

too capitalist

222 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:35:28pm

re: #212 unrealizedviewpoint

Anyone notice that a Zombie thread mostly always means an "open registration" thread too?


hm. we may have a conspiracy here.

223 OldLineTexan  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:35:37pm

re: #221 bulwrk

too capitalist

to capitalist

/L^3 spellchecker

224 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:35:40pm

Zombie, did I tell you:

Great Work!

I tend to forget the obvious.

225 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:35:52pm
With a fresh burst of speed I hurtled toward the commotion and caught the torch as it passed the Marina Green...

You deserve a Gold Medal.

226 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:36:00pm

re: #154 song_and_dance_man

Have you talked to her [Cindy] during your many encounters with the nuts of the world?

A few times.

227 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:36:15pm
228 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:36:39pm

re: #210 Ben Hur

Why doesn't Tawain get the same love as Tibet?

I mean, Tibet IS a part of China.


I would have gone with a black wreath for avatar.

229 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:37:03pm
Back in the trenches, the ongoing battles continued. Here, one China supporter gives a mocking laugh and a thumbs down to some Tibetans.

Wow. I feel sick looking at that photo.

This is the first protest essay where I feel glad that all these people are out with signs. I find it pathetic that China arranged for the torch to essentially run away from people, not through them.

I wish I was there to give the Chicoms the finger. They didn't run through Dallas, as far as I know.

230 EC Marm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:37:05pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Friday Fatwa.....
Alcohol fatwa sparks controversy

Yusuf al-Qaradawi's fatwa says a level of 0.5% is allowed, whereas most Muslims would say alcohol of any quantity is banned.


Change!


If he's talking a blood level of .5 that is a very good thing, considering anything over around .3 is fatal.
Legal in my state is now .08 down from .1

231 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:37:43pm
232 jcm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:04pm

re: #212 unrealizedviewpoint

Anyone notice that a Zombie thread mostly always means an "open registration" thread too?

Has anyone seen Charles and zombie together?

233 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:10pm
234 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:48pm

re: #230 EC Marm

oh great, now we're going to have f'd up and drunken islamofacists!

they'll wanta play jihaddi bump car on the interstate.

Hmm? An H2 is starting to look better and better in spite of the cost of gas.

235 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:48pm

re: #205 so.cal.swede

the dude in front looks white... my eyes are bad though

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Typical White Person

236 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:48pm
237 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:38:58pm

re: #227 song_and_dance_man

I haven't seen them. There's been a bunch of them over the years.

Yeah, this guy got all bent out of shape & put words in peoples mouths including mine. He claimed that he had a lot of Muslim friends and all were really patriotic, all.

238 ding  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:39:13pm

Zombie is now my new media hero. Better than being there.

239 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:39:15pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Friday Fatwa.....
Alcohol fatwa sparks controversy

Change!

I wonder if rubbing alcohol is okay to use (not drink) and what about colognes with an alcohol base. So many alcohols, so little time

ARE WE READY FOR A DRINKING THREAD?

240 Varanus  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:39:22pm

re: #231 song_and_dance_man

Not so quick there pardner. I don't think Charles would employ a hatchling as a monitor.

mwargh! but my name implies ...

241 shug  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:39:36pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Friday Fatwa.....
Alcohol fatwa sparks controversy


0.5 % is allowed

Is that blood alcohol level?

SWEET

242 vapig  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:39:56pm

Is Catttt out there?

243 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:40:08pm
244 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:40:21pm

re: #239 Eowyn2

it began over an hour ago.

better late than never.

245 Varanus  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:40:44pm

re: #241 shug

Is that blood alcohol level?

SWEET

I think it's the minimum blood rage level

246 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:40:50pm

re: #239 Eowyn2

I could use a fresh pot --- ehem little hatchlings.


Hey Eowyn --how you doin? I haven't been on-line in the daytime a lot lately haven't seen a lot of people.

247 Alouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:40:58pm

re: #24 Occasional Reader

The protest sign with the tank borne by Olympic rings was pretty damn good.

Jewish guy wearing a kippah was holding that sign.

It's funny how all the signs and street theater that's so freaking lame when performed by Code Pink & co. becomes so clever and entertaining when it's for a cause you agree with.

248 EC Marm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:10pm

re: #233 song_and_dance_man
Might wanna be a tad suspicious of any hatchling with "an*s" as part of the nic. Just sayin'. Next thing you know they're throwing links to some gay porn site.

249 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:15pm
250 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:19pm

Dear Zombie,

Thank you for courageously documenting so much humanity and ugly history. So many people there know silly slogans but little about history.

Your fotos remind me of San Francisco's great beauty, much like Spain's--and the San Fran Chinatown of my childhood--when Ronald Reagan was California's governor.

You Zombie are a patriot and mensch!

251 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:22pm

re: #232 jcm

Has anyone seen Charles and zombie together?

Zombie is Charles' sock-puppet?

....ahhhh......now the plan is complete!

252 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:28pm

re: #158 SeafoodGumbo

China labels Uyghur separatists as Islamic terrorists, though it’s doubtful there’s any substance to the accusation.

Zombie, this may be the first time I've ever disagreed with anything you've written. There's a very good post on the Uyghurs at the American Thinker today about the jihadist threat there.

A great deal of the info we have about the Uygurs is coming straight from the communist Chinese government. Who lie constantly. There are no journalists allowed in the area. China recently concocted a patently fake hijaking plot involving Uyghurs, who were all summarily executed -- they probably were activists who were framed.

I know there is some jihad activity with a small percentage of the Uyghurs, but I think it's overstated and exaggerated by the Chinese, to justify their police state there.

253 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:30pm

re: #234 BulgarWheat

oh great, now we're going to have f'd up and drunken islamofacists!

they'll wanta play jihaddi bump car on the interstate.

Hmm? An H2 is starting to look better and better in spite of the cost of gas.

In my personal opinion it would be better if they drank.
You know, cocktails and going to clubs.Forget the jihad crap.

254 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:41:59pm

re: #221 bulwrkGood point.

255 Dianna  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:42:22pm

Great job, as always, zombie.

256 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:42:27pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

See my #148. I had a very different experience. I was there for about 2-3 weeks and never saw a single burka. They are culturally very different from other Muslims. There have been attacks linked to Uyghur separatists but they are very rare. I'm sure the Ummah would love to see it turn into another Chechnya so I'd guess that there might be foreign jihadis sent in to stir things up.

I'm sure you know much more than I do about them, and it might just be that wherever there are Muslims, there are bound to be some jihadists. If it was a number of years ago that you traveled there, things might have become more radicalized since you were there. No doubt, there is foreign pressure to radicalize the Uyghurs as the article notes Saudi and Pakistani influence, including mosque building.

Concerning the burqa, the article quotes one guy who states:

According to Igor Rotar, a Central Asia correspondent for The Jamestown Foundation, Uyghurs "tend to be more zealous Muslims than their Central Asian neighbors. The majority of local, married women wear burqas, which is quite rare in Central Asia, and middle-aged men prefer to have beards."[


I'm not saying that you are wrong, but burqa wearing percentages can change quickly it seems. Maybe the author went to different areas than you. The article also quotes another guy whose view on their dress coincides with yours:

In direct contrast to this view, visiting Associated Press reporter, William Foreman, recently observed, "Most Uighurs practice a moderate form of Islam. The men wear ornate skullcaps, or "doppi," while most women favor head scarves but rarely cover their faces. Many can be seen dressed in tight skirts or stylish hip-hugging designer jeans and high heels."
257 Ben Hur  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:42:41pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Re: Uyghurs (pronounced "Wiggers')
They are a very interesting culture. Although Muslim they are a very sensual people. I was there during Ramadahn so the streets had a real party atmosphere after the sun went down with everybody breaking their fast. I'm not even so sure most of them were fasting during the day, I had the impression it was the tradition of breaking the fast at night was more important than the fast itself. Lots of street music and singing.
They also have a tradition that when a girl comes of age she gets her own room attached to the house with it's own entrance. This "courting house" is where male suitors come to visit. I asked a young Uyghur girl to sing me a song. After she finished I asked her what the song was about and she said it was a traditional girl's courting song. The lyrics were something like "I like your beauty and form, I want to invite you into my tent and beat you gently with my whip". She said this without blushing.
They're good people.

Wiggers?

You've got to be effen kidding me!

258 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:42:53pm

re: #218 zombie

I did notice a lot of variation among the Uyghur population. The people in the far west deserts looked and dressed different from the people living in the mountains. I wasn't there long enough to pick up the cultural differences. It was hard to tell if the lack of "Islamicness" was their cultural choice or the result of government crackdowns on religion.

259 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:42:55pm

re: #210 Ben Hur

Why doesn't Tawain get the same love as Tibet?

I mean, Tibet IS a part of China.

Technically, Tibet, along with Taiwan, Korea, and other areas of Asia were tributary states during the time of the Chinese Kingdom, that is they were nominally a part of the Chinese Empire, but largely independent.

260 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:43:00pm

re: #253 opnion

yeah, we could provide Lizard Limo Services for them, for a fee of course.

261 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:43:42pm

re: #244 BulgarWheat

MAN, I gotta get with the times.

love your new monitor.

262 Eowyn2  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:44:19pm

bulgar

PIMF

Avatar

263 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:45:05pm

re: #239 Eowyn2

I
wonder if rubbing alcohol is okay to use (not drink) and what about
colognes with an alcohol base.

There's been quite a few stories out of the Caliphate of Great Britain about muslim doctors & nurses refusing to use antiseptic alcohol hand gels.

ARE WE READY FOR A DRINKING THREAD?

You better believe it!

264 tfc3rid  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:45:06pm

re: #257 Ben Hur

Wiggers?

You've got to be effen kidding me!

We had a different definition of that in college...

265 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:45:30pm

re: #257 Ben Hur

Wiggers?

You've got to be effen kidding me!

Srsly. It took me by surprise too.

266 BulgarWheat  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:45:30pm

re: #261 Eowyn2

I hope you mean avatar. No monitor here. I'm drunk half the time (except early dead thread) and I'm pretty sure that Charles knows that.

heh.

267 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:46:31pm

re: #253 opnion

Every civilized society needs a pleasant little vice or two. ;)

268 NeoCon Gamer  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:46:33pm

Heh. This thread is Epic. Awesome Zombie report, hilarious signs that absolutely demand abuse, confuzzling politics and epic comments.

Scratch what I said before.

This thread is Legendary.

269 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:46:39pm

re: #205 so.cal.swede

the dude in front looks white... my eyes are bad though

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

That's what I was talking about -- those are kung fu school members, as I mentioned. The entertainment.

270 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:47:01pm
271 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:47:21pm

definitely the Friday drinking thread

272 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:47:30pm

re: #210 Ben Hur

Why doesn't Tawain get the same love as Tibet?

I mean, Tibet IS a part of China.

Ooooh, you're in trouble now!

273 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:49:46pm

re: #260 BulgarWheat

yeah, we could provide Lizard Limo Services for them, for a fee of course.

You probably would have to get them drunk to tip an Infidel.
I just think that if they were drinking & chasing women things would lighten up.

274 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:50:24pm

re: #219 Eowyn2

you will have to notify people at pajamas media that they need to get rid of this line:

Zombie is an undercover photographer. His work is displayed at......

I don't mind. Play it as it lays. I never revealed my gender to them -- they just assumed. Sometimes people say "she," other times "he." I won't correct them.

275 FishFearMe  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:51:14pm

A few points for Zombie:

1)Great work.
2)In order to avoid anymore "accidents", perhaps a "Zombietime Cam Relay"
3)Recently, someone else posted some of Zombie's pics and referred to Zombie as "she". The mystery deepens.

276 shiplord kirel  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:51:19pm

The Frisco moonbats do put on a show, and all praise to the redoubtable Zombie for being there to chronicle it.

A good time had by all......except the Chicom propaganda types.
From their point of view this is a fiasco so great as to blot out the sun. Some of them may find themselves re-assigned to, say, editing the party newpaper in some obscure nuclear-contaminated corner of the Takla Makan desert, if not worse.

277 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:52:32pm

re: #225 Ringo the Gringo

You deserve a Gold Medal.

What I really wanted, however, was a stretcher and an ambulance. After I reached the torch, I was knocked to the ground twice and got scraped up pretty bad. I'm covered in bruises in scabs.

278 ggt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:52:57pm

c u all upstairs!

279 Kenneth  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:53:21pm

re: #274 zombie

...in fact, Zombie is a pan-gendered re-animated person of unspecified color.

280 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:53:36pm

re: #256 SeafoodGumbo

It's also worth noting that they are an occupied territory. There's bound to be some resistance. I was in Tibet on the same trip. When I was buy a souvenir trinket the shop keeper slipped something in my bag when he was wrapping it up. I didn't think anything about it until later when I looked at it. It was a map detailing recent incidents of Tibetan resistance. There were bombings of government offices, sabotage of power stations and shootings of Chinese police. Even the Buddhists get violent.

281 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:55:17pm

re: #252 zombie

A great deal of the info we have about the Uygurs is coming straight from the communist Chinese government. Who lie constantly. There are no journalists allowed in the area. China recently concocted a patently fake hijaking plot involving Uyghurs, who were all summarily executed -- they probably were activists who were framed.

I know there is some jihad activity with a small percentage of the Uyghurs, but I think it's overstated and exaggerated by the Chinese, to justify their police state there.

Between what you and Killgore Trout have said, and what the article states, it appears that they're a mostly benign form of Muslims who the Taliban, Saudis, and others are trying to radicalize (of course) and whose radicalization the ChiComs exaggerate for their own purposes. It can get confusing as the end of the article has this paragraph:

We should ask: how much of the Uyghur separatist struggle has been co-opted by the Islamists and is being used to breed fellow travelers for the jihadist agenda? Who are victims -- the Uyghurs, China or both? Is it realistic for China to fear Islamic extremism, territorial expansion and the spread of insurgency to other aggrieved groups? Is China using the excuse of terrorism as an excuse for a crackdown on the Muslim Uyghurs or is China a victim of the extensive network of Islamic terrorist groups in Xinjiang and Central Asia? Have the Islamists joined forces with Uyghur separatists to capitalize on the struggle in Tibet? Is the West failing to differentiate between radical Islam and legitimate human rights grievances? Is China's "Strike Hard" policy serving to radicalize the Uyghurs and causing them to find common cause with the Islamists? Finally, how can the United States assist China in the mutual fight against global Islamic terrorism and, at the same time, successfully address issues of religious repression and civil rights?


It seems like the Uyghurs are mostly a good people with rotten bastards on both sides of them (radical Islamists and communist Chinese).

282 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:55:23pm

re: #251 eschew_obfuscation

Zombie is Charles' sock-puppet?

....ahhhh......now the plan is complete!

Shut up or I'll ban you with my banning stick!

Ban! Ban!

(Damn, why doesn't this thing work?)

283 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:56:38pm

re: #280 Killgore Trout

It's
also worth noting that they are an occupied territory. There's bound to
be some resistance. I was in Tibet on the same trip. When I was buy a
souvenir trinket the shop keeper slipped something in my bag when he
was wrapping it up. I didn't think anything about it until later when I
looked at it. It was a map detailing recent incidents of Tibetan
resistance. There were bombings of government offices, sabotage of
power stations and shootings of Chinese police. Even the Buddhists get
violent.

Military History magazine had an article a few years ago about the CIA-backed Tibetan resistance in the 1950s. Fascinating stuff.

/heading up thread

284 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:57:02pm

Diego Maradona the ageing Argentinian soccer sensation, was supposed to run the Olympic torch for a while in downtown Buenos Aires, Argentina--but he was in Mexico.

Hooray for Diego Maradona blowing off the chicom torch relay! For whatever reason.

(per Spanish news)

285 alegrias  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:57:52pm

re: #277 zombie

What I really wanted, however, was a stretcher and an ambulance. After I reached the torch, I was knocked to the ground twice and got scraped up pretty bad. I'm covered in bruises in scabs.

* * *
You deserve a real Purple Heart for valor!
Not a Kerry fake purple heart ...

286 zombie  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:58:00pm

re: #257 Ben Hur

Wiggers?

You've got to be effen kidding me!

I heard them say the name themselves. It was closer to Wee-ger. About midway between Wee-ger and wigger, depending on the speaker. The Chinese Mandarin speakers all say wee-ger, though.

287 Pyrocles  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:59:34pm

Probably because Taiwan is an industrialised capitalist country (evil) while Tibet is "primitive", "naturalistic", and exotic (good) in the eyes of lefties. Therefore, Tibet is more "deserving" of freedom.

re: #210 Ben Hur

Why doesn't Tawain get the same love as Tibet?

I mean, Tibet IS a part of China.

288 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 1:59:48pm

re: #267 ggt

Every civilized society needs a pleasant little vice or two. ;)

I do believe that you are correct. A puritanical society like we see in a lot of Islam, breeds frustration.
But if you party a little, life is just fun.

289 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:02:01pm

re: #280 Killgore Trout

It's also worth noting that they are an occupied territory. There's bound to be some resistance. I was in Tibet on the same trip. When I was buy a souvenir trinket the shop keeper slipped something in my bag when he was wrapping it up. I didn't think anything about it until later when I looked at it. It was a map detailing recent incidents of Tibetan resistance. There were bombings of government offices, sabotage of power stations and shootings of Chinese police. Even the Buddhists get violent.

Thanks for the information. You and zombie have changed my mind. The article seemed to be unsure about the Uyghurs, but leaned towards the view that they were getting radicalized. It sounds like they're probably just a beleaguered people under the heel of the Chinese, though there are some jihdists, which you'll find wherever there are Muslims, but not that many compared to other Muslim-majority areas.

290 opnion  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:02:23pm

re: #274 zombie

I don't mind. Play it as it lays. I never revealed my gender to them -- they just assumed. Sometimes people say "she," other times "he." I won't correct them.

Ok Zombie, If you were a twee, what gender twee would you be?(Baba Wawa)

291 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:03:07pm

re: #286 zombie

Their slang term for Europeans and Americans translates to "Big nosed people."

292 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:05:48pm

re: #289 SeafoodGumbo

As I mentioned earlier I couldn't tell if their lack of Islamisation was due to government repression of religion or if it was their own cultural choice. They certainly have very un-Islamic cultural practices but we won't know for sure until the communist government gives up.

293 justiceforall  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:06:20pm

I can't tell how much sarcasm there is in Charles' post when he says "Tantrums," but I would hope he would side with the pro-democracy, those that link China with the slaughter of innocent people Sudan and Tibetan rights advocates, and not the Chinese government.

294 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:07:20pm

re: #229 Pawn of the Oppressor

Wow. I feel sick looking at that photo.

This is the first protest essay where I feel glad that all these people are out with signs. I find it pathetic that China arranged for the torch to essentially run away from people, not through them.

I wish I was there to give the Chicoms the finger. They didn't run through Dallas, as far as I know.

They'd have gotten arrested by the cops, due to all the car arsons in Oak Cliff.

/hey, he's got an open flame!

295 Alouette  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:08:08pm

re: #100 ggt

Mel Gibson movie called "The Conspiriacy Theory". The open is Mel driving a cab spouting all the "theories" to his captive passengers.

Mel playing himself as a cab driver.

296 psaturn  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:17:52pm

Zombie, congrats on a great reporting! Your reports and comments are full of wisdom...Confucius would approve!

297 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:25:38pm

re: #277 zombie


I'm covered in bruises in scabs.

As every zombie should be.

298 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:26:34pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Their slang term for Europeans and Americans translates to "Big nosed people."

I resemble that remark.

299 BabbaZee  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:32:59pm
Whats in your head?

Thanks, Zombie!

300 Eagle  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:35:32pm

I was so hoping that Zombie would cover this.

Thanks Zombie!

301 Happy Viking  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:38:50pm

I'm still laughing my ass off at the guy with the "Mao" shirt...well...once a commie always a commie I guess.

302 marwan's daughter  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:43:03pm

I realize the pro-Tibet protestors have more than their share of clowns but to call this a tantrum is wrong. This is different from all the anti-war protests Zombie has covered because the Tibetans have a legitimate greivance. China really did seize Tibet unlawfully, and it deliberately wants to get rid of Tibetan culture by brainwashing young Tibetans in school.

303 protestshooter  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:44:26pm

re: #60 calcajun

And the great thing was, given that this was San Francisco, that none of them were nude --thank God.

Heh - there were nude guys there.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...] (willies blurred to protect the innocent)

304 debutaunt  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:52:10pm

re: #212 unrealizedviewpoint

Anyone notice that a Zombie thread mostly always means an "open registration" thread too?

Ha! I had unrealized that.

305 Q-Burn  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:56:08pm

Forgive me if someone else has pointed it out on this thread, but the Olympic torch relay was invented by the Nazis.

306 ethanxxx  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 3:07:10pm

Excellent work Zombie. As Visual Art, I'd have to say this one is my favorite.

1925.jpg

307 jdun  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 3:28:23pm

Anyone taking bets if Beijing burn down to the ground when liberals invade China? Blue on Blue you got to love it.

308 JamesTKirk  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 4:46:11pm
309 psaturn  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 4:50:18pm

re: #303 protestshooter

Heh - there were nude guys there.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...] (willies blurred to protect the innocent)

Great job there! I noticed that you have identical photos like Zombie...how come?

310 psaturn  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 4:50:42pm

I mean some photos are identical...I did not mean all...

311 protestshooter  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 6:32:57pm

re: #310 psaturn

I mean some photos are identical...I did not mean all...

We definitely shot some of the same signs, especially around the Ferry Building, like the Kosovo guy, but they're not identical. Zombie's used some of my shots with permission in prior reports but not this one.

If you think two shots are actually identical please post links of an example.

312 Ledger1  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 7:11:04pm

So many grievances and so little. It’s almost like these people made a living off of protesting.

Good work Zombie.

313 plonialmoni  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 9:44:48pm

re: #74 zombie

Yeah, the first thing I noticed was no full-sized photos. That's part of what makes Zombietime so great! I hope you eventually put this report on Zombietime with the full-sized shots, it's not the same with the small ones. Small pics are a bit of a bummer, but the report was great as usual.

314 mikalm  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 10:12:26pm

Zombie, you just keep going from strength to strength. Great report, and your comments this time are particularly insightful and funny.

I actually saw a small piece of this from a distance, as I work right near the Embarcadero. Glad you were on the scene to document the madness.

And just between us Lizards: does anyone think Moony would give a s**t about the Tibetans if Buddhism (in a watered-down, wimpy, Westernized flavor) wasn't to this generation of self-loathing Westerners what Hinduism was to the Sixties hippies? And if Mao was still in charge of China, rather than the US-friendly quasi-capitalists of today?

315 deportman  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 10:36:37pm

Charles,

I was present during some of this lunacy. I was in San Fran on business and took a "casual" stroll down to the Embarcadero area during the events. I had never seen so many CHICOM flags flying outside of Peking. I was struck by the contradiction, as Zombie pointed out, of the protesters who, except for the Tibetan exiles, normally are in league with the red Chinese. Craziness run amok!

316 Ledger1  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 5:08:41am

After see the two over-sized stuffed Chinese Olympic mascot heads it clear that the tentacles of state sponsored propaganda are penetrating California and the USA in general.

Apparently, it is rather easy to influence the American public with a large enough “media consulting” company and some grease money.

I wonder how much state sponsored influence will be applied to the upcoming US elections – not a happy thought.

Shouldn’t some of our intelligence agencies be looking into how this influence/propaganda comes to our shores?

317 tankascribe  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:18am

Great coverage from Zombie! Ironically enough, we caught the Olympic Torch relay in London entirely by accident a couple of days earlier. We were on vacation there and just happened to pick that day to be at the National Gallery in Trafalgar Square (we weren't paying any attention to the news). There were quite a few people in the square but figured it for tourists and went inside. After a couple of hours we decided to break for lunch and just as we got up from our table in the cafe', happened to glance out the windows (this was from the second floor) and saw the torch relay coming down the street. I felt sorry for the crowd as I don't think it was possible to even see the torch from ground level, as it was totally surrounded by Chinese guys in blue-and-white tracksuits, who were in turn surrounded by London cops in international-rescue-green reflective jackets. Unless the runner really held the torch up high, you weren't going to see a thing. Having watched the torch pass by beneath our window, we then exited and found ourselves in a sea of Chicom flags and a huge crowd, which made me extremely nervous. We quickly threaded our way along the front of the museum and found ourselves paced on the right by a group of people holding Tibetan flags and shouting, "Stop the violence in Tibet!" All I could think was, "Man, I wanta get out of here before the riot starts." There was a woman just to my right who was chanting at the tops of her lungs; on the news that night, I saw her again as they arrested her for charging the torch relay farther down from the square. Later on, as we checked the news, we saw that the torch was going to come to San Francisco on the day we were flying back into SFO ourselves. Much to our relief, the torch arrived hours before we did, although the traffic leaving the airport terminal was snarled as some lanes were closed off (for the return of the torch). Turned out we got out of there just before they shut down all traffic into and out of the airport. We were never so glad to be home!

318 h0mi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:20:23pm

re: #308 JamesTKirk

Idiot protestor: Would we have allowed Nazi Germany to host the Olympics?

LOL


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