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Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:07:55 am PDT

Who can hope to be safe? who sufficiently cautious?
Guard himself as he may, every moment’s an ambush.

Horace

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1 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:09:31am

Happy [expletive deleted] Birthday, Charles!

/I think...

2 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:12:01am

littleoldlady
Wikipedia says that Charles was born on the 13th ;)

3 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:16:34am

Once again, Happy Birthday Charles.

/have nothing pithy to say at this time.

4 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:16:49am

My URL appears to have changed after posting a spinoff link. o_O Weird. Should be fixed now.

5 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:17:28am

Hey, I finished reading "Caliphate" by Tom Kratman yesterday. A good read, but all the information in it is old news to all here. I may have to do a book review on it.

6 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:17:59am

Birthday songs abound, but this is still my favorite....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Maz Jobrani

7 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:18:36am

re: #2 MigueldowninMexico

His birthday is on wikipedia?! WOW. Is today the 13th?

/I hope so. I could use the renewed faith in my memory. ;-)

8 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:19:03am

re: #7 littleoldlady

His birthday is on wikipedia?! WOW. Is today the 13th?

/I hope so. I could use the renewed faith in my memory. ;-)

It is :)

9 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:26:44am

Where did everybody go?

10 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:26:58am
every moment’s an ambush.

Great line!

/a tad paranoid, but useful for some days.

11 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:27:21am

Morning

12 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:28:23am

re: #11 storagemanager

Morning

Easy for you to say.

13 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:28:29am

re: #9 BlueCanuck

Where did everybody go?

Present teacher! :)

14 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:29:06am

Now a little music for the Sunday morning open thread.

15 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:29:19am

re: #11 storagemanager

Morning

Hello there, storage ;)

16 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:30:01am

re: #11 storagemanager

Morning

storage, your clock is slow. It's afternoon here.

17 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:30:07am

re: #10 littleoldlady

Maybe a tad paranoid, but even paranoids have enemies. Tend to live longer too in certain situations.

18 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:30:17am
19 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:30:27am
IsraelNN.com) Nearly 60% of Israelis say the Israeli government is secretly negotiating the division of Jerusalem with the Palestinian Authority - despite government attempts to blur the existence of such talks.

This and other findings were the results of a survey carried out by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies in Bar Ilan University. The official numbers will be presented this Tuesday at a special seminar at Bar Ilan. The Guest of Honor will be Trade Minister Eli Yishai, the head of the government coalition member Shas Party. Yishai has stated frequently that the moment it becomes clear that Jerusalem is being negotiated, his party will quit the coalition.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

20 RTLM  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:31:00am

I jusre: #16 rightwinger3

storage, your clock is slow. It's afternoon here.

Are you in Oz? :)

(Australia)

21 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:31:03am

re: #17 BlueCanuck

As the shrinks like to say, "Paranoia always has a basis in reality".

;-)

22 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:05am

Nice Canuck, I always Pink Floyd. I got to see them in the Superdome, the Pulse tour I believe... the best concert I ever saw.

23 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:14am

re: #20 RTLM

Germany right now, Australia in a couple months.

24 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:17am

rightwinger3! :-)

storage! :-)

RTML! :-)

25 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:47am
(IsraelNN.com) Iran, disgraced and censured, is nonetheless seeking to obtain a non-permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council to represent Asia for the 2010-2012 term, when Indonesia completes its rotation.

The Islamic Republic, thrice sanctioned by the very body on which it hopes to secure a seat, brazenly applied nonetheless for the privilege, despite facing three pending resolutions against it. At least two are calling for more sanctions in response to its ongoing defiance of demands by the body on which it wishes to serve, that it halt its nuclear development program.

According to a report by Haaretz, however, it is likely that Japan, "not only a central and respected UN member but also [which contributes] the largest sum after the United States to the UN budget" will beat Iran for the Asia seat.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

26 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:49am

re: #23 rightwinger3

Germany right now, Australia in a couple months.

Dass ist gut, mein Herr.

27 RTLM  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:32:51am

re: #24 littleoldlady

rightwinger3! :-)

storage! :-)

RTML! :-)

Howdy all !

28 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:34:55am

re: #26 MigueldowninMexico

Yes it is. You know Germans do not make crappy beer. I've been trying to find a crappy German beer and have not succeeded!

29 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:35:06am

re: #25 storagemanager

That'll actually be hard to call. The only Middle Eastern nation besides Israel to get the Angry Statement Treatment wants a seat on the Security Council, but faces opposition from Japan.

It's like Venezuela versus Guatemala from a couple years back.

30 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:36:42am

re: #24 littleoldlady

morning littleoldlady. Another good thing about being in Germany is reading the dead thread in the afternoon instead of being wide awake at 2 in the morning!

31 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:36:43am

Good morning, Lizards.

(Good morning, littleoldlady! :-))

And Happy Birthday to our gracious host.

As for the quote, here's a good answer;

To avoid surprise, remain in Condition Yellow.

-Col. Jeff Cooper


cheers

eon

32 valkyrie  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:37:40am

Happy birthday, Charles!

Did you ever in your wildest dreams as a child think that you would one day create a place where thousands of freedom-loving people from all over the world would gather to share news, exhange ideas, and help one another muster the courage to face down evil in the world? Did you ever imagine yourself as a superhero?

If you didn't...you should have. Because you are.

33 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:37:45am

It's Charles' birthday?!?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES

/my ol' standby, but it's a perfect fit imho. :)
//oh, and TURN YOUR SPEAKERS UP.

Good morning everyone!

34 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:37:49am

Iran to the rescue...have no fear...Iran is here.........

..Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said on Sunday that Iran is preparing a package to help resolve the regional and international problems.

He made the remarks in a joint press conference with his visiting counterpart from the Philippines, Alberto Romulo.

"Since the Middle East region and the entire world are suffering from a variety of crises, Tehran is preparing a package to put forward for the settlement of regional and international problems and present it publicly," Mottaki noted.

"We think all sides, including the Group 5+1 would make use of the package."
The Group 5+1 -- United States, Britain, France, Russia and China plus Germany -- are to meet in Shanghai, eastern China, on April 16.

The meeting, to be held at the level of political directors of the Group, is expected to discuss Iran's nuclear standoff with the West.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

35 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:38:46am

eon! :-) Howdy!

36 Mortis  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:38:49am

My coffee can not kick in fast enough......

Happy Birthday, Sir Charles

37 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:40:31am

re: #30 rightwinger3

I'm jealous. :-/

38 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:40:52am

re: #34 storagemanager

So that's where our diplomats have been. =_=

39 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:41:22am

Chai, a bright shiney new thread, dead threaders and some tunes... a nice way to start a Sunday.

Now where's Real with his donut run (I want an apple fritter but would have to go 11 miles in my pajamas to get one)?

40 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:42:06am

gettinby! :-)

Ohhh! How perfect!

/I remember! I bookmarked it way back when you first posted it...somewhere. :-/

41 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:44:22am

re: #37 littleoldlady

I'm jealous. :-/

littleoldlady, bad thing about it is I've gained 10 lbs eating bratwurst and drinking beer, my fault but I can't get enough of it!

42 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:44:39am

re: #28 rightwinger3

Yes it is. You know Germans do not make crappy beer. I've been trying to find a crappy German beer and have not succeeded!

Then the pass word is:
Trink! ;)

43 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:45:22am

littleoldlady! { {to you} }

I like the 'No mortal can deter this individual' line with regard to what Charles accomplishes with this site.

How have you been doing?!

44 Karridine  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:46:21am

O Light-Seeking Zombiesque One: I've posted the MP3 of Obama's "Bitter Hillbilly Morons" speech at the ever-popular I Call BS!

Good stuff, O Zomboid One! :D

45 rightwinger3  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:48:09am

re: #42 MigueldowninMexico

Then the pass word is:
Trink! ;)

Yep! The "secret" password is: We are going to Klosterkreuzburg "to see the monks"

46 Karridine  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:48:33am

re: #42 MigueldowninMexico

Bernard Trink used to write a regular column in the English-language Bangkok Post...

Do we hafta check with HIM first?

47 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:48:36am
JEDDAH, 13 April 2008 — A private initiative by three Saudi women activists to raise awareness about children’s rights is facing problems of “bureaucracy and misunderstanding,” resulting in officials halting public lectures to be held at a Jeddah mall last weekend.

The organizers of the campaign, entitled “Saudi Arabia’s First Campaign to Prevent Child Abuse and Neglect,” said that they had secured official approval before its launch at the beginning of this month.

The three women organizers include Amal Al-Khalifa, a psychologist at King Faisal Specialist Hospital; Souad Al-Shammri, a lawyer; and Fatimah Al-Ansari, a children’s rights advocate.

Al-Khalifa, who is also a member of Amnesty International, said they chose April as “it is internationally considered the month of prevention of child abuse.”

To the three women’s shock and surprise, the most crucial part of their campaign, which involved lectures for parents at Sawary Landmark Mall, was suddenly stopped last weekend.

The lectures, which were to be delivered by the three women, were to be held on Wednesdays and Thursdays at the mall throughout April.

“I can’t explain what I don’t know,” said Al-Khalifa, commenting on why the lectures were stopped

ISLAME! [Link: www.arabnews.com...]

48 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:49:18am

re: #43 gettinby

littleoldlady! { {to you} }

I like the 'No mortal can deter this individual' line with regard to what Charles accomplishes with this site.

How have you been doing?!

Yes, that whole thing is so...Charles!

Me? Everyday is an ambush. ;-)

How's by you?

49 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:50:12am

re: #38 laZardo

So that's where our diplomats have been. =_=

Morning, storage. Morning, Lazardo.

Yes, and considering the nations involved, and the area in question, I'm trying (over breakfast) to figure out why the meeting is being held in Shanghai and not, say, Geneva?

Thinking.

Thinking.

Thinking.

Nope, nothing yet. But my cognitive dissonance is setting in.

Hello, G-5 + 1?

China?

Tibet?

Major arms supplier to Iran?

Is anybody getting a raging clue here?

/somehow, I don't expect anything they "decide" will affect the PRC's sales posture toward Dinnerjacket & Co.

cheers

eon

50 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:51:15am

re: #33 gettinby

It's Charles' birthday?!?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES

/my ol' standby, but it's a perfect fit imho. :)
//oh, and TURN YOUR SPEAKERS UP.

Good morning everyone!

Good morning, gettinby! :)

51 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:52:04am

Good morning, lizards.

The Telegraph is reporting that the Pope will pray for Islamic jihadis to convert to Judaeo-Christianity when he visits Ground Zero. The prayer is for God to "turn to Your way of love those whose hearts and minds are consumed with hatred."

The seething will be deafening.

52 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:52:20am

You mean China is linked to Iran?...falls down in shock.

53 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:52:56am

re: #43 gettinby

littleoldlady! { {to you} }

I like the 'No mortal can deter this individual' line with regard to what Charles accomplishes with this site.

How have you been doing?!

Wow, that was impressing!

54 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:53:31am

re: #45 rightwinger3

Yep! The "secret" password is: We are going to Klosterkreuzburg "to see the monks"

LOL

55 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:54:12am

re: #46 Karridine

Bernard Trink used to write a regular column in the English-language Bangkok Post...

Do we hafta check with HIM first?

Why not?
If he has good booze ;)

56 Bubblehead II  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:55:14am

re: #17 BlueCanuck

Morning Lizards.

Just because you are parinoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.

57 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:55:29am
Istanbul %u2022 An Italian woman artist who was hitch-hiking to the Middle East dressed as a bride to promote world peace has been found murdered in Turkey.

The naked body of Giuseppina Pasqualino di Marineo, 33, known as Pippa Bacca, was found in bushes near the city of Gebze on Friday.

She had said she wanted to show that she could put her trust in the kindness of local people. Turkish police say they have detained a man in connection with the killing.

Very sorry to say..you found the answer and you were wrong. [Link: www.thepeninsulaqatar.com...]

58 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:55:45am

re: #51 godfrey

Good morning, lizards.

The Telegraph is reporting that the Pope will pray for Islamic jihadis to convert to Judaeo-Christianity when he visits Ground Zero. The prayer is for God to "turn to Your way of love those whose hearts and minds are consumed with hatred."

The seething will be deafening.

Hi godfrey!
I'm afraid you're so right...

59 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:56:11am

re: #49 eon

Good morning, eon :)

60 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:56:13am

re: #48 littleoldlady

My new residential property management job is like 'being ambushed every second!'

There is one particular family giving us most of the headaches right now...their kids are unruly and bullies to the other kids, they are hateful to their neighbors, they have threatened to kill one of their neighbor's little fluff doggie (police were called), etc., etc.

/you can guess, probably successfully, what peaceful religion they adhere to.

This is going to become a very interesting situation. LOL

61 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:57:03am

re: #56 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Just because you are parinoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.

LOL! That's right!
Good morning :)

62 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:58:00am

re: #56 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Just because you are parinoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.

True. Like the old saying goes, even paranoids have enemies.

They just have trouble telling the real ones from the little voices inside their heads, is all.

/old Abnormal Psych joke

cheers

eon

63 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:58:14am

re: #60 gettinby

Oh boy.

/not good! :-(

64 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:58:23am

re: #57 storagemanager

I feel very sorry for Giuseppina, but she was a perfect dhimmi.

I'll leave it at this considering her fate.

65 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:02am

re: #53 MigueldowninMexico

'Morning Miguel!

Impressive

You're so right.

That's a good word to describe not just Charles, but most of the posters who find their way here, doncha think?!?!

/pats on back and hi-fives to those posters. :)

66 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:11am
67 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:13am

re: #56 Bubblehead II

Heh, heh, everyones out to get me. :)

68 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:26am

re: #60 gettinby

Welcome to property management...we are a special breed..lol

69 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:38am

re: #59 MigueldowninMexico

Morning, Miguel. How's the weather?

We're maybe-sort of -kind of looking at spring here in OH. It's still down in the low 40s (F) at night.

cheers

eon

70 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:59:55am

re: #60 gettinby

Wow, I hope things manage to be kept sane, or at least not to insane.

71 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:00:34am

re: #60 gettinby

May God protect you always.
God, those people are truly insane aren't they?
Always violent! :(

72 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:01:13am

re: #65 gettinby

'Morning Miguel!

Impressive

You're so right.

That's a good word to describe not just Charles, but most of the posters who find their way here, doncha think?!?!

/pats on back and hi-fives to those posters. :)

Hahahahaha.

Ok I second that!

73 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:01:54am

re: #63 littleoldlady

Yup. My boss called me after my first week to ask how things were going.

I casually mentioned that I may have gotten us into a war with the middle-east; but other than that, all was well.

Heh.

74 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:02:39am

re: #68 storagemanager

Welcome to property management...we are a special breed..lol

Perfect description!

/Don't believe I've ever been referred to as a 'special breed.' LOL

75 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:03:01am

re: #69 eon

Morning, Miguel. How's the weather?

We're maybe-sort of -kind of looking at spring here in OH. It's still down in the low 40s (F) at night.

cheers

eon

It's pretty mild here. Our small and not cold winter is practically over.
We have the advantage of never being really cold, and the disadvantage of not having all those things that have to do with snow and a cold winter ;)

76 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:03:03am

I never saw mention of this: Gunmen blow up British cemetery monument in Gaza in April.

Palestinian gunmen blew up a monument in a British-run cemetery for foreign soldiers in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip on Thursday, witnesses and British diplomats said.

"Gunmen." With explosives. Well, whatever. They're angry at Britain's capitalist imperialist crusading infidel past. Who isn't? Serves those dead soldiers right! /

77 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:04:44am

I wish we had a delete button.... take two
The Very Thing That Makes Her Rich (Will Make You Poor) - Ry Cooder

*Hic*
(excuse me while I back away from the key board).

*blush*

78 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:04:57am

re: #74 gettinby

Perfect description!

/Don't believe I've ever been referred to as a 'special breed.' LOL


How many unit's do you have?

79 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:06:18am

re: #77 The Albatross

LOL, Yeah I have done that before.

/last week in fact and I was as sober as a judge.

80 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:06:35am

re: #77 The Albatross

If you're going to make a mistake, do it on the Dead Thread.

/most of us are either too tired or too drunk to notice.
//if neither of the above, too polite to point it out. ;-)

81 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:06:45am

Blue Canuck!

What a great Sunday brunch spread you did.

Thanks.

Also, did I read about an adjustment you made to your 'tude-o-meter for your job?

Good on ya!

82 Bubblehead II  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:07:38am

re: #62 eon

Want to find out how paranoid your neighbors are? Put a surveillance camera up pointing in thier general direction. Not kidding. Had the people across the street complain to the park manager that I was "spying" on them when I replaced a old CRT camera with a newer CCD one. The manager just laughed. That particular camera had been up for more than 5 years before they moved in.

83 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:08:03am

re: #80 littleoldlady

If you're going to make a mistake, do it on the Dead Thread.

/most of us are either too tired or too drunk to notice.
//if neither of the above, too polite to point it out. ;-)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Great comment! LOL

84 Karridine  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:08:09am

re: #76 godfrey

I never saw mention of this: Gunmen blow up British cemetery monument in Gaza in April.

"Gunmen." With explosives. Well, whatever. They're angry at Britain's capitalist imperialist crusading infidel past. Who isn't? Serves those dead soldiers right! /

Those 'gunmen' are really into desecrating graves, Godfrey. They desecrate Baha'i graves in Iran monthly... along with other pogromite efforts...

85 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:08:30am

re: #73 gettinby

LOL!

86 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:08:56am

re: #81 gettinby

Why thank you. And yes I did. It has done wonders for my sleep. :)

87 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:09:17am

re: #75 MigueldowninMexico

It's pretty mild here. Our small and not cold winter is practically over.
We have the advantage of never being really cold, and the disadvantage of not having all those things that have to do with snow and a cold winter ;)

Lucky you. Up here, we define snow as "that white s**t that paralyzes the state at least five times every year between October and May".

/seriously, we got hit with enough snow to declare a level 3 emergency (only emergency vehicles moving, anyone else gets ticketed) in the middle of March

cheers

eon

88 tappin52  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:09:48am

Good morning all and Happy Birthday to Sir Charles. Thank you for an intelligent (usually) forum to ponder current events.

89 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:10:04am
Prominent Qatar-based Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi has sparked controversy by issuing a religious law allowing Muslims to consume tiny amounts of alcohol, which is banned in Islam.

"The latest fatwa caused confusion among people... We could have done without it," the editor of the Qatari daily Ash-Sharq, Abdullatif al-Mahmoud, wrote on Thursday.

In his fatwa published on Tuesday in the Qatar's Al-Arab newspaper, the Egyptian-born Qaradawi said that consuming drinks containing small quantities of alcohol that is "constituted naturally through fermentation" did not violate Islamic teachings.


"The presence of alcohol in a proportion of five in a thousand (0.5 percent) is not banned because it is a minimal quantity, especially when it is produced by natural fermentation. Hence there's nothing wrong in consuming such a drink," Qaradawi said

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

90 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:10:31am

re: #84 Karridine

Those 'gunmen' are really into desecrating graves, Godfrey. They desecrate Baha'i graves in Iran monthly... along with other pogromite efforts...

{Karridine}
Extensive to all your people...

91 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:11:44am

re: #78 storagemanager

How many unit's do you have?

I'm part of a corporate-team-management-situation with a company that has about 10,000 units (apartments and manufactured home communities).

Still getting used to the team concept. I've always been pretty much a one-woman get'r done kind of manager.

Actually, at my age, this team thing is fun...

/sharing the responsibilities means blaming the other guy? LOL

92 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:11:50am

re: #84 Karridine

The desecration of graves has been taboo since the dawn of humanity. How do they even attempt to justify it?

93 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:12:01am

re: #87 eon

Lucky you. Up here, we define snow as "that white s**t that paralyzes the state at least five times every year between October and May".

/seriously, we got hit with enough snow to declare a level 3 emergency (only emergency vehicles moving, anyone else gets ticketed) in the middle of March

cheers

eon

Wow, it's been a cold year.
Let's notify Gore ;)

94 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:12:54am

re: #89 storagemanager

About time someone over there got a clue and a dash of common sense.

/wonder when there's going to be a fatwa on him.

95 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:13:04am

re: #88 tappin52

Good morning all and Happy Birthday to Sir Charles. Thank you for an intelligent (usually) forum to ponder current events.

Good morning :)

96 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:13:58am

re: #92 godfrey

The desecration of graves has been taboo since the dawn of humanity. How do they even attempt to justify it?

So right.

97 Bubblehead II  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:14:03am

re: #92 godfrey

Ummmm... Because they are infidels, thus the sons of apes and pigs?

98 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:15:28am

re: #82 Bubblehead II

I had a neighbor whose paranoia was close to Fox Mulder levels once. She used to call the sheriff claiming I was shooting over her house (about 1/2 mile from mine). How could she tell? She claimed she could hear the shot from my shotgun hitting her roof.

The desk sergeant's response?

"Ma'am, it's raining."

And it was, too- I was inside, curled up in front of the TV, with a cup of coffee, a good book, and Forbidden Planet.

I've moved, so has she, and I have no idea where she is, now.

/don't care, either


cheers

eon

99 tappin52  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:15:30am

Morning, Miguel.

100 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:16:20am

re: #51 godfrey

Viva Il Papa!

101 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:16:45am
Some believe the group, known as Jundallah, is linked to al-Qaida. Jundallah, or God's Brigade, has waged a low-level insurgency in southeastern Iran.

Fars said the mosque's cleric gives a weekly speech denouncing the Bahai faith and Wahabism — an austere brand of Sunni Islam practiced mostly in Saudi Arabia. Such speeches are not unusual in Iranian mosques


[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

102 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:17:06am

re: #80 littleoldlady

the "ding-age" is very moderate on the Dead Thread.

103 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:17:55am

re: #101 storagemanager

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

Wow! And I thought that Wahabbists were the only extremists pushing the ticket right now.

God, I'm so glad I'm not a muslim...

104 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:18:21am

re: #102 BulgarWheat

the "ding-age" is very moderate on the Dead Thread.

Like I said...too tired or too drunk. ;-)

'Morning, Bulgar! :-)

105 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:18:54am

Hey Bulgar! :)

106 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:03am

godfrey! :-)

Have I told you that I love your tie?

/also LOVE that movie!

107 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:12am

re: #104 littleoldlady

Howdy Lil'Ol! Looks like it's going to be a pretty nice day down here in North Carolina.

108 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:35am

re: #105 MigueldowninMexico

Hey, Miguel! How you doing?

109 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:41am

re: #101 storagemanager

Someone explain what the Shiites have against the Baha'i. Specifically speaking.

110 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:46am

re: #93 MigueldowninMexico

Wow, it's been a cold year.
Let's notify Gore ;)

Nahh, he'd just say it was the Bush-Cheney Orbital Weather Control Laser Satellites being used to discredit him.

Of course, if the people who don't believe in Global (Gorebull) Warming think the Earth is flat, too, logically, they wouldn't attempt to launch satellites because it would be illogical for them to be able to acheive orbit around a "pancake".

/picturing Mr. Spock raising one eyebrow in disbelief, as he surmises that Gore's brain is in a tight orbit around his lower intestine.

cheers

eon

111 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:19:53am

I am a newbie
But...
Happy Birthday Charles !
Without you we would have had Algore or John F-ing Kerry as POTUS and we are forever grateful and in debt to you !
David

112 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:20:07am

re: #108 BulgarWheat

Hey, Miguel! How you doing?

I'm doing ok, thanks!
How about you?

113 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:20:22am

Happy Birthday, Charles!

114 Bubblehead II  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:20:23am

re: #98 eon

hehehe... What made it even funnier was that the focal point was on the back door of my home. it wasn't even aimed at thier place.

And with that I have to get ready for work.

I am not parinoid. I am just security concious.

115 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:20:53am

re: #109 laZardo

Someone explain what the Shiites have against the Baha'i rest of the human race.

116 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:20:56am

re: #109 laZardo

Shiites hate eveyrone who isn't shiite. If you ask me that's a little narrow minded and "shiity"

117 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:21:06am

re: #89 storagemanager

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

Great. All we need are hung-over jihadis.

118 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:21:27am

Mike Gravel is back!

/new moonbats are out early this year

119 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:21:33am

re: #110 eon

Nahh, he'd just say it was the Bush-Cheney Orbital Weather Control Laser Satellites being used to discredit him.

Of course, if the people who don't believe in Global (Gorebull) Warming think the Earth is flat, too, logically, they wouldn't attempt to launch satellites because it would be illogical for them to be able to acheive orbit around a "pancake".

/picturing Mr. Spock raising one eyebrow in disbelief, as he surmises that Gore's brain is in a tight orbit around his lower intestine.

cheers
LOL!
eon

120 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:21:56am

re: #107 BulgarWheat

Bulgar,

I'm tempted to put away the winter coat...finally.

/may be premature. only a high in the 50's today.

121 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:22:36am

re: #101 storagemanager

Some believe the group, known as Jundallah, is linked to al-Qaida. Jundallah, or God's Brigade, has waged a low-level insurgency in southeastern Iran.


Biting the hand that feeds them
Kind of a pattern of the Islamicnuts

122 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:22:44am

'Morning, Mandy! :-)

123 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:22:45am

re: #116 BulgarWheat

Shiites hate eveyrone who isn't shiite. If you ask me that's a little narrow minded and "shiity"

GMTA ;)

"Shiity"! LOL

124 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:23:32am

re: #116 BulgarWheat

Pieces of Shiite. Seriously though, why'd they pay special attention to the Baha'i?

re: #110 eon

Winston could remember when the world was cooling, and that it needed to be warmed. Then there was a period when the Goracle decreed that the world was warming and needed to be cooled. But he couldn't remember which period went where.

125 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:24:40am

re: #115 MigueldowninMexico

Uhhh- we exist?

cheers

eon

126 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:24:49am

re: #123 MigueldowninMexico

are you following the Popes visit to the US?

127 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:25:02am

re: #124 laZardo

Pieces of Shiite. Seriously though, why'd they pay special attention to the Baha'i?

re: #110 eon

Winston could remember when the world was cooling, and that it needed to be warmed. Then there was a period when the Goracle decreed that the world was warming and needed to be cooled. But he couldn't remember which period went where.

The Baha'i come originally from Iran (Persia). That makes Iranian Muslims, usually shi'ia; very uncomfortable.

Karridine can correct me if this is not correct ;)

128 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:26:13am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Good morning, lol!

129 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:26:32am

re: #127 MigueldowninMexico

Yep, Karradine is our resident member of the B'Hai faith. He'd be the person who would know, LaZardo.

130 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:26:42am

re: #126 BulgarWheat

are you following the Popes visit to the US?

I will, as soon as information starts rolling.
Right now there's practically no coverage yet.
This time -obviously- the biggest coverage will be in the USA.

131 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:28:13am

Iran: It Was An Accident!

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

A work accident, perhaps? (;

132 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:30:34am

re: #110 eon

Winston could remember when the world was cooling, and that it needed to be warmed. Then there was a period when the Goracle decreed that the world was warming and needed to be cooled. But he couldn't remember which period went where.


And it's based on real science, too!

Sort of like Advanced Dungeons & Dragons is.


Eon's First Law of Gaming;

Never Trust Any Game World In Which Gunpowder Doesn't Work.

/because if that form of combustion is verboten, the Second and Third Laws of Thermodynamics just went out the window, and took life processes with them.

cheers

eon

133 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:30:50am
The Saudi Interior Ministry says authorities have beheaded two Nigerian men convicted of drug trafficking.

The two Nigerians, identified as Mohammed Qodous and Idris Abdul-Ghani, were convicted of swallowing sachets of cocaine to smuggle it into the kingdom.

The Interior Ministry says Sunday's beheadings took place in the Red Sea coastal city of Jiddah.

Drugs...let's not lose our heads over them. [Link: www.jpost.com...]

134 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:30:58am

re: #131 laZardo

......munitions left at the site...................?

I don't think I've ever encountered munitions at any church I've ever attended. Maybe I was looking closely enough though.

135 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:33:18am

re: #132 eon

I like that gaming law. Now in 3rd edition you can actually have flintlocks.

136 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:34:11am

re: #57 storagemanager

Very sorry to say..you found the answer and you were wrong.


I linked to an article last night in the BBC that said they found the guy who killed her. Initials M.K.

Local media identified the suspect only by the initials MK and said he had a previous conviction for theft.


I'm thinking Mike, or Miguel, or Manny? I mean, hitchiking through Turkey, what else could it be?

137 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:34:56am
Bomb explodes at Catholic church, officials say it was an attack

Just posted in spin -off links.

138 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:35:50am

re: #137 storagemanager

I think I posted that earlier under terrorism. Also hit a cafe nearby.

139 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:36:22am

A co-irker yesterday commented on how hard it is to find anything on the news about the Democratic primary. I asked her if she watched Fox, CNN, et cet.. She said she never heard anything about HRC or BHO.

Sidestepping that nonsense, I told her that the Internet is full of coverage. She said she didn't have time to get on the computer, that she was working too much. (This is her second job. She works at a bank FT.) She went on and on about how Americans work too much, don't have time to become informed.

A few minutes later, she started bitching about getting notice to serve on a jury. Hoo, boy. She really started bitching about not having time to put up with that, about how no working people should have to serve on juries and only retired people should have to serve.

At that point, I wanted to screech, "JUST WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES DO YOU HAVE AS A CITIZEN? YOU REFUSE TO INFORM YOURSELF AND NOW YOU WANT TO REFUSE TO DO YOUR DUTY AS A JUROR?!"

Instead, I found a table full of fine-guage knits that needed to be fluffed and folded, and walked away.

140 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:36:51am

re: #134 BulgarWheat

All churches have WMD's and IED's in the basement
Thats why they are so safe

141 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:37:45am

re: #138 BlueCanuck

I think I posted that earlier under terrorism. Also hit a cafe nearby.


I post all my links under Islam...as Islam is terrorism.

142 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:37:55am

re: #137 storagemanager

And this was where?

Speaking of which, have the results come in on the Bali Bomber's corpse yet?

143 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:38:26am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that some folks in Israel are waking up to the fact that Hamas is trying to foment another humanitarian crisis - fakery at its finest. My response? No kidding. They've been trying this for years. The difference is that the media and government is finally starting to wake up to this nonsense and responding preemptively.

144 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:39:33am

US Ex-President? Or Ex-US President?

You decide.

145 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:39:46am

re: #141 storagemanager

Well I used the 24 hour rule since no one at the time laid claim to the bomb. Any random bombing in my opinion is terrorism.

146 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:40:28am

re: #140 LeftJustAintRight

Hmm? That could lead to some memorable and explosive revivals I guess.

147 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:41:21am
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former President Jimmy Carter said he feels "quite at ease" about meeting Hamas militants over the objections of Washington because the Palestinian group is essential to a future peace with Israel.
Carter, interviewed Saturday for ABC News' "This Week," airing Sunday, also said he would oppose a U.S. Olympic boycott and hopes all countries will join in the Beijing games.

He spoke from Katmandu, Nepal, where his team of observers from the Carter Center monitored an election that appeared likely to transform rule by royal dynasty into a democracy with former Maoist rebels in a strong position, judging by incomplete returns.

Several State Department officials, including the secretary, Condoleezza Rice, criticized Carter's plans to talk in Syria this week with exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal in the first public contact in two years between a prominent American figure and the group. Carter said he had not heard the objections directly, although a State Department spokesman said earlier that a senior official from the department had called the former president.

"I feel quite at ease in doing this," Carter said. "I think there's no doubt in anyone's mind that, if Israel is ever going to find peace with justice concerning the relationship with their next-door neighbors, the Palestinians, that Hamas will have to be included in the process."

Although he said the meeting would not be a negotiation, he outlined distinct goals.

"I think that it's very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians, maybe to get them to agree to a cease-fire—things of this kind," he said.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

148 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:42:27am

re: #139 MandyManners

Who are you and what have you done with the real Mandy?

149 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:42:34am

re: #139 MandyManners

co-irker

Cute! :-) Not to worry. She "won't have the time" to vote.

150 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:42:35am

re: #146 BulgarWheat

But of course, haven't you heard?

151 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:42:59am

re: #145 BlueCanuck

Well I used the 24 hour rule since no one at the time laid claim to the bomb. Any random bombing in my opinion is terrorism.

I understand...I just meant...when I know it is Islam...I use that tag.

152 BlueCanuck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:44:00am

re: #151 storagemanager

No problem. Just explaining my reasoning, not disagreeing.

153 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:45:11am

re: #150 BlueCanuck

Thanks Blue! What was I thinking?

154 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:46:46am

Palestinian higher education takes another hit.

The administration of the Islamic University in Hebron decided Saturday to suspend studies until further notice following fierce clashes on campus between students affiliated with Fatah and Hamas.

The clashes erupted after students belonging to the Hamas-affiliated Islamic List distributed leaflets accusing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's forces of arresting four of their colleagues.

Several students were wounded during the riots, eyewitnesses told The Jerusalem Post. They said the rioters also damaged furniture and equipment.

Sources close to Hamas accused the Fatah students of instigating the clashes. "They have been provoking our supporters on campus for a long time," the sources said. "Members of the Islamic List were only trying to stage a peaceful protest against the arrest of their colleagues."

155 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:46:52am

re: #148 laZardo

Who are you and what have you done with the real Mandy?

I got her tied up and locked in a filing cabinet.

156 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:48:11am

re: #149 littleoldlady

Cute! :-) Not to worry. She "won't have the time" to vote.

Oh, yes. She will. She's voting for McCain.

My sister, the lesbian with moonbattish tendencies, has never voted before but, she got registered and will vote for McCain.

157 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:48:47am

re: #147 storagemanager

Well, of course Carter feels at ease with this. He's had no problem over the years trying to do all he can to improve the terrorists' odds of success. Lending his image and prestige as a former US President does that. It provides legitimacy where none is deserved.

Now that Olmert says that he wont meet with Carter, expect Carter's camp to spin this as though Israel is intransigent and unwilling to compromise.

158 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:48:55am

re: #135 BlueCanuck

I like that gaming law. Now in 3rd edition you can actually have flintlocks.

Finally. The original AD&D (which I was playing when it was still called Chainmail- yes, I am that frickin' old), was so heavily biased toward "magical" characters and races by fiat rules like the "gunpowder is useless junk" one that there was no way that humans could ever have been anything but the serfs of every other race, all of whom were either faster, stronger, tougher, meaner, had more magic potential, were longer-lived, and/or two or more of the above. Gygax & Co. apparently were so enamored of pre-gunpowder monarchial societies that they failed to "work out the implications" as John W. Campbell always said.

The punch line was, that to redress this imbalance, and give the "baseline" human character classes a chance of not just victory, but plain survival, against all the nasties they also created, they had to make "rare" magic items that could be used by anyone who picked them up so common that in later years it seemed like every third soldier in a local defense militia had a +3 sword of some type and/or a quiver full of +2 arrows and a +4 bow or crossbow to launch them. And of course, they ended up treating crossbows like guns; always loaded, rapidly reloadable, and unbelievably accurate and powerful. As a long-time primitive weapons hobbyist myself, my response to that is; fat chance.

Or IOW, the "gunpowder prohibition" caused both the undefeatabilty of mass armies of even peasant levies by anything- and the infamous "Monty Haul" campaign.

And to redress that, they began giving magical races invulnerabilities to darned near everything.

That was when I bailed, and started playing Shadowrun. At least there, you can stop a dragon.

With a gunship.

Third Edition, hmm? Thanks- I'll have to check that out.

cheers

eon

159 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:49:23am

re: #156 MandyManners

Oh, yes. She will. She's voting for McCain.

My sister, the lesbian with moonbattish tendencies, has never voted before but, she got registered and will vote for McCain.

And this is not just out of disillusionment from her Democratic candidate of choice not getting (or at this point in time, not very likely to get) nominated? o_O

160 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:50:42am
$64 million ....'Huge' order
Investigators shared that view. "The suspects know that the huge order of AK-47s is destined to fulfill not only the needs of the Libyan army ... they are aware that part of the order will be forwarded to third parties,'' anti-Mafia prosecutor Dario Razzi in Perugia, a city in central Italy, wrote in requesting the arrest warrants for the group.

The Italians made trips to Tripoli and China, arranged for six sample guns to be sent to the North African country and got as far as organizing a trip to Libya for the Chinese middlemen to sign the final contract.

On Feb. 12, 2007, police across Italy arrested four of the alleged arms traffickers: Moretti, Squarzolo, Massimo Bettinotti and Serafino Rossi. A fifth member, Vittorio Dordi, is believed to be in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where he apparently is involved in the diamond trade.


going to war?
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

161 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:51:36am

re: #156 MandyManners

Oh, yes. She will. She's voting for McCain.

My sister, the lesbian with moonbattish tendencies, has never voted before but, she got registered and will vote for McCain.

Now THAT'S what I call HOPE and CHANGE! :-)

162 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:51:39am

re: #154 lawhawk

Palestinian higher education takes another hit.

They need a Dante's, the bar in Seattle's University District that has dollar-pitcher night on Thursdays. Perhaps if the Muslim *cough* scholar in No. 89 is successful, near-beer will one day be okay.

163 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:52:16am

Anti-Americanism will disappear as Europeans realise how much better it was to have a world super power that was a democracy (however flawed) not a dictatorship.China the real Master of the Universe
Good read

164 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:52:50am

The Phillipines affiliate of Al Qaeda has bombed a cathedral there. No injuries reported.

Suspected al-Qaida-linked militants bombed a Roman Catholic cathedral compound and a building housing a government office Sunday in the southern Philippines, police said. No one was injured in the blasts.

Police have been placed on the highest level of security following the dawn explosions in Zamboanga city, regional police Chief Superintendent Jaime Caringal said. Government troops and police had already tightened security in the town for a weeklong national sports festival and a medical conference, he said.

Zamboanga, about 860 kilometers south of Manila, is home to US troops providing counterterrorism training to Filipino soldiers. The military says the region is home to more than 300 armed members of the al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf terror group.

Caringal said a mortar round, concealed in a box, exploded under a car in the parking lot of the Immaculate Conception Cathedral, damaging two cars, a concrete wall and two steel gates.

165 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:53:04am

re: #159 laZardo

And this is not just out of disillusionment from her Democratic candidate of choice not getting (or at this point in time, not very likely to get) nominated? o_O

She thinks HRC is a lying socialist and BHO is, too. But, BHO scares her in ways she cannot put her finger on.

166 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:54:51am

re: #161 littleoldlady

Now THAT'S what I call HOPE and CHANGE! :-)

It took her a while to get to the point of pulling the lever for a Republican. At first she was just gonna' boycott elections again but, once she checked out the situation (with my encouragement and assistance), she realized she'd have to be pro-active.

167 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:54:53am
Funneling arms to Iraq?
However, in Iraq, there have been accusations that Libya is funneling arms to insurgents.

In January, a top Iraqi security official in Anbar province, police Col. Jubair Rashid Naief, accused Seif al-Islam Gadhafi, the eldest son of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, of aiding a group of 150 foreign and Iraqi fighters responsible for several attacks in the area. Gadhafi has not commented on the allegation.


[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

168 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:55:30am

Islam trying to take over the world
China taking over the world at the same time
Hmmmm...
Could it be that China will handle the Islamicnuts for the rest of the world?

169 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:55:55am

re: #154 lawhawk

There was an ad for the Doha Debates on BBC World yesterday, where Tim Sebastian went and asked:

"Are Palestinians becoming their own worst enemy?"

/fat chance getting a yes from Doha Qatar, though I'd at least like to see that...

170 littleoldlady  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:56:00am

re: #166 MandyManners

Mandy,

One.Vote.At.A.Time.

That's what I've been working on, too. :-)

171 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:56:35am

re: #138 BlueCanuck

I think I posted that earlier under terrorism. Also hit a cafe nearby.

In what country was that?

172 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:56:38am

re: #165 MandyManners

Mandy, maybe she's just a bitter Typical White Woman. Yeah, that's the ticket.

173 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:56:48am

This news story in and of itself is tragic

...but I found the 1st comment following the story interesting in that it sounds like a lizard with a good sense of lizard sarcasm?

174 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:56:52am
MINNEAPOLIS — At least 23 people in 14 states have been sickened by the same strain of salmonella found in two breakfast cereals recalled by Malt-O-Meal, the federal Food and Drug Administration said Saturday.

Officials in Minnesota are investigating whether a case in that state might be linked to the cereals produced by the Minneapolis-based company, the state health department said.

Malt-O-Meal voluntarily recalled its unsweetened Puffed Rice and Puffed Wheat cereals April 5 after finding salmonella contamination during routine testing. The affected bags were produced in the past 12 months in Northfield.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

175 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:58:12am

re: #166 MandyManners

In other words - and I'm guessing here - she figures another 4 years of Bush (as it were) should really get a good liberal candidate up on the podium?

/though such a possibility would escape me. How BHO scares her even I wouldn't understand.

176 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:59:38am

re: #163 LeftJustAintRight

Islamic fundamentalism or communism?

Tough call.

177 shiplord kirel  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 4:59:53am
"Who can hope to be safe? who sufficiently cautious?
Guard himself as he may, every moment’s an ambush."

Horace must have spent some time in Iraq, then known as Mesopotamia and likewise subject to Persian subversion.

178 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:00:08am

re: #173 gettinby

If it wasn't for all the foreclosures, this wouldn't have happened. If we weren't in Iraq, foreclosures wouldn't be happening. If George Bush wasn't president, we wouldn't be in Iraq. If Al Gore was president, guns would be outlawed and there would be no more shootings. If Al Gore was president, poor folk in the ghettos wouldn't have to rob each other to survive.


I hope it is sarcastic

179 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:00:34am

re: #160 storagemanager

1 million Type 56s plus 50 million rounds of 7.62 x 39mm works out to 50 rounds/rifle. Not nearly enough for military use (standard in most armies is five magazines in the web gear = one unit of fire), but more than sufficient for most terrorist uses, which generally consist of a Chicago-style spraying of one or two magazines-full into a cafe', etc., followed by an immediate bugout.

Involving the Italians looks to me like an attempt to maintain deniabilty and create a dead-end in the paper trail (with the end-user certificates).

Remind me again- Qaddafi was supposed to have given up this kind of stuff after we took down Saddam, right?

/don't bet the ranch on it

cheers

eon

180 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:01:24am

re: #170 littleoldlady

Mandy,

One.Vote.At.A.Time.

That's what I've been working on, too. :-)

Each one, teach one.

181 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:02:29am


BRITISH police and security agencies are monitoring 30 terrorism plots, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said in extracts of a newspaper interview released today. "We now face a threat level that is severe. It's not getting any less, it's actually growing,'' she said in an interview to be published tomorrow in News of the World.
"We task the police and the security agencies with protecting us ... There are 22,000 individuals they are monitoring. There are 200 networks. There are 30 active plots,'' she said....

Britain has seen a marked increase in militant Islamist plots since it joined the US in invading Iraq in 2003.


This reporter could just as easily, and more accurately, have written this: "Britain has seen a marked increase in militant Islamist plots since it embarked upon a policy of appeasement and see-no-evil, speak-no-evil, hear-no-evil regarding the Muslim community."

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

182 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:02:45am

re: #172 BulgarWheat

Mandy, maybe she's just a bitter Typical White Woman. Yeah, that's the ticket.

She's become more interested in politics as The Kid has grown up. She doesn't want to live in a socialist nation nor does she want her nephew to be left a bunch of crap.

183 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:04:52am

re: #180 MandyManners

I think I got my Moonbat mother to consider McCain
She is suffering from BDS so bad that I had to explain to her that Bush was only the POTUS and not a dictator
She still does not believe me so I will keep trying

184 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:06:11am

re: #175 laZardo

In other words - and I'm guessing here - she figures another 4 years of Bush (as it were) should really get a good liberal candidate up on the podium?

/though such a possibility would escape me. How BHO scares her even I wouldn't understand.

I think she read the article I sent her about BHO and Soros. And, she doesn't like socialism, and she thinks he's a crook.

185 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:06:59am

re: #178 LeftJustAintRight

I'm pretty sure it is. He follows that up with...

So, did I sound like a liberal? I've been working on my impression for weeks.

/the sarc tag needs to become a more universally-used indicator.

186 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:07:50am

re: #168 LeftJustAintRight

Islam trying to take over the world
China taking over the world at the same time
Hmmmm...
Could it be that China will handle the Islamicnuts for the rest of the world?

More likely, since they are so close to each other geographically and in available population, the two will end up as regional rivals- with both sides having nuclear weapons.

The result could all too easily resemble The Hundred Years War- except on a larger scale, and with a high background count.

Walter Miller's A Canticle for Liebowitz is looking less fanciful all the time. Unfortunately.

cheers

eon

187 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:07:56am

Ok, got to go now.
Good bye and God bless all :)

188 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:08:32am

re: #183 LeftJustAintRight

I think I got my Moonbat mother to consider McCain
She is suffering from BDS so bad that I had to explain to her that Bush was only the POTUS and not a dictator
She still does not believe me so I will keep trying

The power moonbats assign to Pres. Bush is amazing. If he's as powerful as they think, why haven't they been locked up in Halliburton-designed and -run camps? Why are they exercising their Constitutional rights? Why are we having elections in November?

189 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:11:08am

re: #184 MandyManners

I think she read the article I sent her about BHO and Soros. And, she doesn't like socialism, and she thinks he's a crook.

I find Soros fascinating. As a longtime watcher (and oftentimes critic) of the James Bond movies, I still find it hard to believe that anyone in the real world could try as hard as he apparently has to base both their life and their business dealings on Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

I wonder if he has a white Persian cat with a diamond-studded collar that he strokes compulsively?

cheers

eon

190 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:12:12am

re: #187 MigueldowninMexico

See you later, Miguel.

Take it easy, and God bless.

cheers

eon

191 wee fury  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:13:25am

Happy Birthday, Charles.

192 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:13:47am

re: #188 MandyManners

The power moonbats assign to Pres. Bush is amazing. If he's as powerful as they think, why haven't they been locked up in Halliburton-designed and -run camps? Why are they exercising their Constitutional rights? Why are we having elections in November?


Exactly
I tried the simple explanation
It is a Democrat ruled senate
The Potus does nothing without the dems approval
I told her he has a short leash and does what he can
Then I told her He is the most moral man in there since Reagan
She is a real Moonbat

193 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:13:55am

My attempt to rip-off Jeff Foxworthy.

You might be a Typical White Person if........

You understand that the Second Amendment wasn't written exclusively for hunters

You understand that islam is not a religion of peace

You choke up whenever you hear the National Anthem

You make it a point to thank people in uniform for their service to our country

You understand that Dhimmi Carter is a lunatic moonbat

You understand that Hillary Clinton is a flaming socialist/Alinsky-ite

You understand that Barack Hussein Obama is a flaming marxist/Alinsky-ite

You take responsibility for your actions

You know that 9/11 was an act of war, and that we cannot cut-and-run in Iraq

You appreciate what G-d has provided and are thankful to HIM for all that he has blessed each of us with

You understand that the MSM has been lying to us for years, and that the internet and blogs like LGF provide us with factual informaion. See comment above

194 monsonman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:14:02am

Anyone see the Time Magazine front page and the article this week. It's about how Obamanation's mom raised him to be who he is. Reading the article it says mom was never there yet lauds Mom as a modern woman struggling with family. In between the gag reflexes I couldn't help but LOL.

195 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:14:18am

re: #189 eon

I find Soros fascinating. As a longtime watcher (and oftentimes critic) of the James Bond movies, I still find it hard to believe that anyone in the real world could try as hard as he apparently has to base both their life and their business dealings on Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

I wonder if he has a white Persian cat with a diamond-studded collar that he strokes compulsively?

cheers

eon

Megalomania minus the delusions.

196 shiplord kirel  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:15:22am

re: #183 LeftJustAintRight

I think I got my Moonbat mother to consider McCain
She is suffering from BDS so bad that I had to explain to her that Bush was only the POTUS and not a dictator
She still does not believe me so I will keep trying

You too? My 80-year-old mom behaves as though Bush invented evil, pain, and loud tv commercials. She has an excuse, I suppose: Her great-uncle was an extremely prominent Democrat and, in fact, she met FDR and many other Dem luminaries through him when she was a little girl (Eleanor was reported to have gushed about her beautiful blonde curls.)
I barely knew my great-great uncle but I am convinced he would belong to the GOP if he were alive today. Mom thinks this is blasphemy. Her mother, my grandmother, is more flexible and has voted Republican since 1980 (the Dem bigwig was on my grandfather's side).

197 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:16:07am

re: #187 MigueldowninMexico

Hasta Manana, friend.

/weird console won't let me input the squiggly-n...

re: #184 MandyManners

Perhaps she's seeing that the guy's no more than what we label politicians here as trapos.

198 eon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:17:08am

re: #195 MandyManners

Megalomania minus the delusions.

And that's what makes him a problem. It's the (relatively) reasonable-seeming ones that nobody spots until it's too late.

And with that, I have to go. It's been fun, like always.

See you later, Lizards.

Have a great day.

cheers

eon

199 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:17:20am

re: #192 LeftJustAintRight

Exactly
I tried the simple explanation
It is a Democrat ruled senate
The Potus does nothing without the dems approval
I told her he has a short leash and does what he can

Then I told her He is the most moral man in there since Reagan
She is a real Moonbat

Did her head go *pop*?

A real moonbat would claim that Pres. Bush controls the Democrats, too, or that they're all in it together to produce OWG. If they go much farther, they're in Icke and Jones territory.

200 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:18:40am

Jimmy Carter's descent into total insanity appears complete, based on his idiotic explanation justifying his upcoming meeting in Syria with Hamas leadership.

"I think that it's very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians, maybe to get them to agree to a cease-fire — things of this kind," he said.

His brain is pancake batter.

201 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:18:58am

re: #194 monsonman

Anyone see the Time Magazine front page and the article this week. It's about how Obamanation's mom raised him to be who he is. Reading the article it says mom was never there yet lauds Mom as a modern woman struggling with family. In between the gag reflexes I couldn't help but LOL.

How much mention is given to his maternal granny?

202 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:19:09am

re: #199 MandyManners

Did her head go *pop*?

A real moonbat would claim that Pres. Bush controls the Democrats, too, or that they're all in it together to produce OWG. If they go much farther, they're in Icke and Jones territory.

Well, she wouldn't be far off in that there is such a thing as a reptilian secret society. n.=.n

/did I say too much?

203 shiplord kirel  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:20:23am

re: #202 laZardo

Well, she wouldn't be far off in that there is such a thing as a reptilian secret society. n.=.n

/did I say too much?

You have said too much. No gamy buttocks for you at the next meet-up.

204 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:20:38am

re: #197 laZardo

Her voice sounds strange when she mentions BHO.

205 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:21:31am

re: #201 MandyManners

How much mention is given to his maternal granny?

You mean the bigot?

206 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:21:55am

re: #204 MandyManners

Wowza. He must scare her that much.

207 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:23:06am

Good Lack of Global Warming Morning Lizards.
There still remains a disturbance in the Obama.
He is now putting out , that he was only saying how justified their anger is.
Get it? Forget about the Bible thumping, racist, xenophobic, gun toting, rube stuff. You know, forget it like his middle name.
It looks like his campaign is really shook.I hope that they snd out Michelle , to straighten this all out.
An Charles, Happy Birthday!

208 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:25:35am

re: #193 BulgarWheat

Pretty good stuff!

May I "borrow" it and send to many?

Love,

A Typical White* Person

*that I'm aware of, anyway. :)

209 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:25:37am
BAGHDAD (AP) - minuteworld The Iraqi government has dismissed about 1,300 soldiers and policemen who deserted or refused to fight during last month's offensive against Shiite militias and criminal gangs in Basra, officials said Sunday.
Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said 921 police and soldiers were fired in Basra. They included 37 senior police officers ranging in rank from lieutenant colonel to brigadier general.

The others were dismissed in Kut, one of the Shiite cities where the fight had spread.

Last month, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the security forces to confront armed groups in Basra, Iraq's second largest city.

But they met fierce resistance and the attack quickly ground to a halt as fighting flared across the Shiite south and Baghdad.

Since then, government officials have revealed that about 1,000 members of the security forces—including an entire infantry battalion—had mutinied, on some cases handing over vehicles and weapons to the militias.

The majority of Iraqi soldiers and police are Shiites.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

210 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:25:58am

re: #198 eon

And that's what makes him a problem. It's the (relatively) reasonable-seeming ones that nobody spots until it's too late.

And with that, I have to go. It's been fun, like always.

See you later, Lizards.

Have a great day.

cheers

eon

I lahks ma crazies to be upfront.

211 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:26:02am

Good morning fellow Sunday morning early risers. We're back to semi-winter weather here in central Ohio.

Mandy...Is young Mr. Manners looking forward to his summer vacation?

212 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:26:38am

re: #188 MandyManners

The power moonbats assign to Pres. Bush is amazing. If he's as powerful as they think, why haven't they been locked up in Halliburton-designed and -run camps? Why are they exercising their Constitutional rights? Why are we having elections in November?

Reminds me of the story of the kid going to a protest against the Bush Administration taking away the right to free speech.

213 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:26:53am

re: #203 shiplord kirel

;.=.;

214 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:27:01am

re: #202 laZardo

Well, she wouldn't be far off in that there is such a thing as a reptilian secret society. n.=.n

/did I say too much?

Ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

215 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:27:47am

re: #205 storagemanager

You mean the bigot?

Yeah, that TWP.

216 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:28:27am

re: #206 laZardo

Wowza. He must scare her that much.

He does.

217 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:28:40am

re: #208 gettinby

thank you. as I mentioned, just ripping off Jeff Foxworthy. Hope I can avoid and army of Redneck Lawyers.

heh

218 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:29:22am

re: #205 storagemanager

You mean the bigot?

Is grandma still under the bus, where Barry tossed her?

219 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:30:42am

This is just the latest Carter Middle East mess. Expect him to make more, and he looks to all but endorse Obama by calling for Hillary to drop out of the race for the good of the party. Never mind that Obama would be bad for the country's foreign policy, or that Obama didn't see anything wrong with Carter's pending visit to Hamas, to say nothing of the fact that Obama considers Carter to be a private citizen, which ignores the fact that Carter is indeed a former President of the United States and carries power and prestige that being a simple private citizen doesn't have.

220 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:30:44am

Good morning all, and happy Birthday to Charles! I had an extremely unpleasant experiance with Imeem last night, I clicked on a Led Zepplin song and got an immediate warning from my computer that several changes had been made to my registry, I then rebooted my computer and it would not boot, even in safe mode. I will have to rebuild the OS. I am not pleased at all to say the least.....

221 NoSubmission  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:31:18am

re: #194 monsonman

Anyone see the Time Magazine front page and the article this week. It's about how Obamanation's mom raised him to be who he is. Reading the article it says mom was never there yet lauds Mom as a modern woman struggling with family. In between the gag reflexes I couldn't help but LOL.


Any explanations on what his mother was doing while struggling in absentia?

222 The Other Les  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:31:38am

re: #203 shiplord kirel

You have said too much. No gamy buttocks for you at the next meet-up.

Gamy buttocks are highly overrated.

223 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:32:04am

re: #217 BulgarWheat

thank you. as I mentioned, just ripping off Jeff Foxworthy. Hope I can avoid and army of Redneck Lawyers.

heh

Not to worry. They'd just invite you over to their house for a good ol' redneck bar-b-que and a few beers with the families.

;)

224 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:32:16am

re: #209 storagemanager

The numbers don't exactly break down how many were police - Interior Ministry, or the national army.

It's also important to keep in mind that despite those problems, the Iraqi government accomplished its objectives in Basra by taking the fight to the Sadr bunch.

225 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:32:59am

re: #194 monsonman

Anyone see the Time Magazine front page and the article this week. It's about how Obamanation's mom raised him to be who he is. Reading the article it says mom was never there yet lauds Mom as a modern woman struggling with family. In between the gag reflexes I couldn't help but LOL.

Well, no. I am a Typical White Person from Small Town, Rural America. The y don't sell Time Magazine here at the corner store. And I'm too stooopid & bitter to read it if they did.

226 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:33:06am

(dips a locust in some honey)

Teshuvah NOW

REPEEEEEEENNNT !

Listen:

RE = (Return)

PENT = (to the Pinnacle, to the HIGHEST STATE)


Return
to
your
highest
state.

ASAP.


This is WLGF!

227 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:33:06am

re: #221 NoSubmission

Any explanations on what his mother was doing while struggling in absentia?


She was partying like it's 1999!

228 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:33:45am

re: #211 Bobblehead

Good morning fellow Sunday morning early risers. We're back to semi-winter weather here in central Ohio.

Mandy...Is young Mr. Manners looking forward to his summer vacation?

Yes, he is. But, before then, he has to read a book at least 60 pages long with chapters and few pictures and write a report on it identifying the theme, the protagonist the like; construct a diorama; and, create a multi-media presentation on a certain country answering 16 questions. Bonus points for a PowerPoint element among other things.

229 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:34:08am

re: #220 loflyer

It's Charles' BD?

Happy Birthday Blogfadda

230 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:34:28am

re: #212 opnion

Reminds me of the story of the kid going to a protest against the Bush Administration taking away the right to free speech.

Oh, the irony! So deep you need waders.

231 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:34:34am

re: #222 The Other Les

I prefer mine tenderized.

232 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:35:23am
On April 7th, a year ago, Du’a Khalil Aswad, 17 years old, was stoned to death in Bashiqa, Northern Iraq. Some of her closest relatives beat, kicked and stoned her to death, pulverizing her face and body, finally killing her by dropping a concrete block on her face to uproarious cheering from a crowd of hundreds of men, followers of the Yezidi religion. Her body was then dragged around the town behind the back of a truck and buried with the corpse of a dog as a final gesture of contempt for her humanity.

In the crowd a small boy watches intently, brought along, presumably, to learn the responsibilities of a man within patriarchal culture: to learn how to rejoice in the beating, torturing and murdering of women, to learn how men’s power over women is founded in their unity and capacity for violence, and to learn to see the cooling puddle of blood streaming from Du’a’s broken face and to feel hatred rather than pity.

Du’a was worthless to the men of her family because she had committed what was, to her repressive community, a terrible crime: a crime which most of those reading this article would have imagined was a basic human right, even the pinnacle of human experience. She fell in love. Within a community tight-knit to the point of choking, where women are allotted to men by the decision of their male relatives, where families take pride in the submissiveness and subordinacy of young female relatives, to choose to love freely is a to become a dissident against the totalitarian doctrine of ‘honour’. Under the ‘honour’ system, women are a commodity to be traded and exchanged to maintain family and tribe solidarity, a commodity to be controlled by men, a commodity at the complete disposal of men’s desires. Women are expected to be asexual to every man except one chosen for her. Women who have no desire towards the man chosen for them may be forced to marry them despite their feelings; their relatives celebrate the first of many instances of marital rape with dancing and feasting. Women who desire men other the one chosen for them are beaten, tortured and killed with impunity. Women who do not publicly display the asexuality demanded from them, through liveliness of character, independence of spirit or supposedly ‘immoral’ dress or behaviour are beaten, tortured and killed with impunity. Women who demand to live and love like human beings are beaten, tortured and killed with impunity.

Women and girls are shot, beaten to death, stabbed, incinerated with kerosene, poisoned and electrocuted, because their relatives believe that if a woman is utterly and publicly subordinate to her male relatives, her only value is as a deterrant to any other female who dreams of breaking free from the circumscribed role of dutiful daughter, obedient wife, and self-sacrificng mother.

[Link: www.stophonourkillings.com...]

233 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:35:28am

re: #226 BabbaZee

Just when I was getting used to the calm, you come marching right in. (:

234 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:36:01am

re: #217 BulgarWheat

thank you. as I mentioned, just ripping off Jeff Foxworthy. Hope I can avoid and army of Redneck Lawyers.

heh

You might be a Redneck Lawyer if at least three of your paper-weights are cans of Kodiak.

235 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:37:30am

re: #233 laZardo

I disrupt your calm?
Or your nothing?
;~}

{LaZee}

236 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:37:50am
Alberto R. Gonzales, like many others recently unemployed, has discovered how difficult it can be to find a new job. Mr. Gonzales, the former attorney general, who was forced to resign last year, has been unable to interest law firms in adding his name to their roster, Washington lawyers and his associates said in recent interviews.


Job Hunting
I feel for the guy

237 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:38:47am

re: #229 BabbaZee

It's Charles' BD?

Happy Birthday Blogfadda

Very British! Don't have anything to throw back at you, my primary computer is trashed along with my favs, I am working on that right now....

239 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:39:25am

re: #228 MandyManners

Yes, he is. But, before then, he has to read a book at least 60 pages long with chapters and few pictures and write a report on it identifying the theme, the protagonist the like; construct a diorama; and, create a multi-media presentation on a certain country answering 16 questions. Bonus points for a PowerPoint element among other things.

From what I hear about him, he will accomplish this within a few hours!

/kudos to his mom for raising what sounds like a solidly good kid. :)

240 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:39:39am

re: #237 loflyer

my primary computer is trashed along with my favs


Oh NOOOOooOOOooo!

241 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:39:47am

re: #232 storagemanager

I'm considering focusing my blog on the treatment of women under Islam. Would you be offended if I use your articles about this? (I'd give a hat tip.)

242 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:39:50am

re: #234 MandyManners

Heh, that's a good one!

243 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:40:03am

Okay, I need you folks to answer a question for me. I ran across this story in the middle of the night and it is still there with the same headline, which reads Death of U.N. Policeman Marks Unrest in Haiti

Since when does the UN have "policemen"?

244 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:40:12am

re: #241 MandyManners

You have a blog?

245 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:40:58am

re: #228 MandyManners

Yes, he is. But, before then, he has to read a book at least 60 pages long with chapters and few pictures and write a report on it identifying the theme, the protagonist the like; construct a diorama; and, create a multi-media presentation on a certain country answering 16 questions. Bonus points for a PowerPoint element among other things.

Excellent! Remember to insist that he keep a journal of his summer activities. His "How I Spent My Summer Vacation" report will be the highlight of the next school year. LOL

246 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:40:59am

re: #241 MandyManners

I'm considering focusing my blog on the treatment of women under Islam. Would you be offended if I use your articles about this? (I'd give a hat tip.)

Please do...I will find as many as you need...it needs to be told.

247 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:41:24am

re: #243 galloping granny

UN Police? WTF?

UN Police, coming to a neighborhood near you.

248 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:41:26am

re: #243 galloping granny

Okay, I need you folks to answer a question for me. I ran across this story in the middle of the night and it is still there with the same headline, which reads Death of U.N. Policeman Marks Unrest in Haiti

Since when does the UN have "policemen"?

The Blue Helmets
Y'know the ones that rape all the underage Christian and Animist girls in Africa

249 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:41:41am

re: #235 BabbaZee

Sometimes, you can find calm in nothingness. Or whatever those Buddhists or hippies like to say. :P

251 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:42:29am

re: #249 laZardo

Entirely different thing
lol

252 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:42:45am

re: #240 BabbaZee

Oh NOOOOooOOOooo!


Just the OS, got a virus from Imeems. Not pleased at all, I loved the quality of Imeems, but I never got a virus from you tube even after thousands of streams.....

253 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:43:42am

re: #248 BabbaZee

The Blue Helmets
Y'know the ones that rape all the underage Christian and Animist girls in Africa

Yeah, I knew what they meant by it and the story correctly references then as peacekeepers, but they absolutely are NOT policeman, so I am seriously wondering why Fox would make the attempt to characterize them as such.

The UN specifically has NO policing powers.

254 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:43:53am

re: #250 BabbaZee

They call them PEACEKEEPERS in true Orwellian fashion

These are the guys who rape & steal & stood around & watched the slaughter in Rwanda.
We should get out of the UN. We are in bad company.

255 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:44:15am

re: #252 loflyer

Imeems

eee-oooo
I was gonna check it out today.
Not going to now~

256 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:44:43am

re: #254 opnion

These are the guys who rape & steal & stood around & watched the slaughter in Rwanda.
We should get out of the UN. We are in bad company.

I agree. At least we no longer send our military to be a part of that mess.

257 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:44:56am

It's Charles' birthday? Ahhh, Aries, that explains a lot. Many happy returns, Charles!

258 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:45:12am

re: #253 galloping granny

The one thing I fear about America leaving the UN is that we're the only thing keeping them from actually giving themselves policing powers.

259 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:45:18am

re: #239 gettinby

From what I hear about him, he will accomplish this within a few hours!

/kudos to his mom for raising what sounds like a solidly good kid. :)

No. It'll take a few hours per assignment to "persuade" him to do the freaking thing! (Inducements include not confiscating his PSP, PS2, PS3, laptop, desktop and cable. Maybe I'm going about it wrong. I think I'll start rewarding him with $5.00 for each A--$30.00 every nine weeks won't break my bank.)

Thank you for the compliment. Sometimes I believe I'm doing it right; other times I just wanna' jump in bed and pull the covers over my head. I wish he came with a manual.

260 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:46:09am

re: #254 opnion

If we did not use the Oil for Food scandal to do so
(and we did not - to the contray, we buried it)
the only conclusion I can draw is
we are complicit in the whole game
and it will never happen

Thus Bolton, Coleman, Santorum etc get relegated to political irrelevance while McCain runs for president unopposed within his party against two stone cold communists

What a world

262 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:47:22am

re: #242 BulgarWheat

Heh, that's a good one!

Trying to think of others.

You might be a Redneck Lawyer if your custom-made suspenders and tie have little images of your 12 rifles.

263 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:47:53am

re: #253 galloping granny

Read the site, they call themselves policeman right there

264 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:48:01am

re: #258 laZardo

The one thing I fear about America leaving the UN is that we're the only thing keeping them from actually giving themselves policing powers.

You are right there. Of course we are also the one country keeping them a float. We provide 25% or so of the UN budget.

265 gromster  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:48:25am

My mother died today around 2:30 a.m. She was only 66 years old.

The nurse from the rehab center called around 3.30 am. to say that my mom had "taken a turn for the worse."

My dad and I went to the rehab center, where the nurse took us into a room. It was then that I knew - before she even said a word - that she was going to tell us that my mom had passed.

She said when the regular nurse was making her rounds around 1.30 am, that she noticed something was wrong with my Mom.

Paramedics were called in, but they could not get her heart going.

I don't know how I'm going to make it without my mother. I have clinical depression, and this adds to it and makes it even more difficult. Please pray for my family and me.

My mom passed away at 2.30 a.m.

I will probably be too broken hearted to get back on the web after this for a long time, plus the funeral is being held out of state. We'll probably leave this Tuesday and be gone for several days, so I couldn't get on the web anyhow.

I really, desperately need prayers. Thank you.

266 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:49:08am

This is why Granny. The "reporter" is just going on what the site says.
UNITED NATIONS POLICE

United Nations Police play a crucial role in UN peacekeeping operations and other UN field missions. They currently participate in 13 different missions around the globe. Every day, more than 7,000 police officers from 80 countries go on patrol, provide training, advise local police services, help ensure compliance with human rights standards and assist in a wide range of other fields.

The benefits of this work are clear: UN Police help to create a safer environment where communities will be better protected and criminal activities will be prevented, disrupted and deterred. The diverse national experiences of United Nations Police officers and their commitment to peace and security are their best tools to promote the rule of law.

The mandate of United Nations Police is different in each mission. In some missions, the mandate has been limited to monitoring the local police services. In more complex missions, the mandate includes advising, training, helping establish local police services and enhancing their work, and, in some cases, law enforcement. This complexity is compounded by the need to integrate all components of the criminal justice system to ensure comprehensive and sustainable rule of law.
Next: The growing role of UN Police

267 green helmet guy  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:49:15am

Happy Birthday!

268 phoenixgirl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:50:02am

re: #265 gromster

{gromster}

269 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:50:03am

re: #265 gromster

gromster, sincere and profound prayers go out to you and your family.

pls. remember, she is in a better place now.

270 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:50:40am

re: #244 BabbaZee

You have a blog?

Yep, for ages. I've let it sleep and have begun thinking about revving it up. If I could find a (paying) job to do at home, I'd get that puppy going. At first I thought about focusing on Haj Amin al-Husseini. While it is important to understand the roots of the current Arab-Israeli conflict, I think it is more important to highlight how Islam treats women.

271 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:51:06am

re: #156 MandyManners

Oh, yes. She will. She's voting for McCain.

My sister, the lesbian with moonbattish tendencies, has never voted before but, she got registered and will vote for McCain.

That's what we need more of -- people who realize the house is on fire and this is not the time to focus on rearranging the furniture.

272 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:51:29am

re: #264 galloping granny

Maybe we could...uh...re-direct some of that investment money coming in from the Middle East to pay our UN dues? If they have to ask, we're just giving it to a "good cause."

/reflection of the times?

273 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:51:41am

re: #265 gromster
I am so sorry for your loss...you are in our thoughts and prays...may the Lord grant you peace and strength.

274 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:51:42am

re: #265 gromster

Sorry for your loss. You are in my prayers this morning.

275 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:51:52am

re: #243 galloping granny

Okay, I need you folks to answer a question for me. I ran across this story in the middle of the night and it is still there with the same headline, which reads Death of U.N. Policeman Marks Unrest in Haiti

Since when does the UN have "policemen"?

re: #254 opnion

These are the guys who rape & steal & stood around & watched the slaughter in Rwanda.
We should get out of the UN. We are in bad company.

AND, who are very good at defacing 6,000-year old rock art.

276 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:52:08am

re: #245 Bobblehead

Excellent! Remember to insist that he keep a journal of his summer activities. His "How I Spent My Summer Vacation" report will be the highlight of the next school year. LOL

I don't know how his teacher will recieve his many entries about escaping his mom's evil clutches in order to strip off and run around naked.

277 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:52:09am

re: #259 MandyManners

No. It'll take a few hours per assignment to "persuade" him to do the freaking thing! (Inducements include not confiscating his PSP, PS2, PS3, laptop, desktop and cable. Maybe I'm going about it wrong. I think I'll start rewarding him with $5.00 for each A--$30.00 every nine weeks won't break my bank.)

Thank you for the compliment. Sometimes I believe I'm doing it right; other times I just wanna' jump in bed and pull the covers over my head. I wish he came with a manual.

ROFLMAO. How many of us have wished that before you Mandy!

Try the carrot rather than the stick. I would suggest to you that he is smart enough to figure out that an A is far too much work for a lousy $5 though. And paying for grades is not the best idea anyway. Try the promise of a new video game if he completes the book report or something like that.

278 akak  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:52:25am

Gromster,

Prayers for You, Your family & friends indeed.

279 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:52:45am
280 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:53:00am

re: #246 storagemanager

Please do...I will find as many as you need...it needs to be told.

My nic is blue for you right now. Please, contact me.

281 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:53:08am

re: #265 gromster

I don't know how I'm going to make it without my mother. I have clinical depression, and this adds to it and makes it even more difficult. Please pray for my family and me.

My mom passed away at 2.30 a.m.

I will probably be too broken hearted to get back on the web after this for a long time, plus the funeral is being held out of state. We'll probably leave this Tuesday and be gone for several days, so I couldn't get on the web anyhow.

I really, desperately need prayers. Thank you.

Oh my goodness. I am so very sorry for the loss of your mom, gromster. I will pray for you and hold you close in my thoughts.

282 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:53:14am

re: #184 MandyManners

I think she read the article I sent her about BHO and Soros. And, she doesn't like socialism, and she thinks he's a crook.

Obama's struck fund raising gold alright. It seems he is connected to a Nadhmi Auchi of Britian. Auchi is infamous for funneling weapons to Saddam Hussein and making a profit off it.

I have a ton of links about the Obama-Rezko-Auchi connections in the spinoff links section.

283 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:53:18am

re: #255 BabbaZee

eee-oooo
I was gonna check it out today.
Not going to now~

I am very leery of Imeems now, but it could be my anti-virus didn't do the job. I don't think it has been updated lately. The quality and speed of Imeem make you tube look like a joke. I am willing to try it again with an updated anti-virus program. The computer that got trashed used E-trust which is a pretty crappy anti-virus program. Got it from work (E-trust), and we are about to dump it and something better....

284 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:53:53am

#238 BabbaZee

Rain you say? Would this be caused by Global Warming?

Heh!

Good Morning, Babba! Sad news from Gromster.

285 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:54:17am

re: #265 gromster

Oh, Gromster - I feel so bad for you and your father and your whole family. I read your post late last night and responded to it (that your Mom was ill and wouldn't eat) and I'm just shocked and surprised. My most sincere sympathies and condolences to you and yours, but especially you and your Father.

286 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:55:07am

Gromster - is there anything we lizards can do for you?

287 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:55:11am

Gromster - prayers for you and your family. May you find peace and solice in focusinging on your relationship with your mother as you move through dealing with the matters and family issues that death brings. God bless you and keep you in his tender care.

288 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:55:23am

re: #265 gromster

My mother died today around 2:30 a.m. She was only 66 years old.

The nurse from the rehab center called around 3.30 am. to say that my mom had "taken a turn for the worse."

My dad and I went to the rehab center, where the nurse took us into a room. It was then that I knew - before she even said a word - that she was going to tell us that my mom had passed.

She said when the regular nurse was making her rounds around 1.30 am, that she noticed something was wrong with my Mom.

Paramedics were called in, but they could not get her heart going.

I don't know how I'm going to make it without my mother. I have clinical depression, and this adds to it and makes it even more difficult. Please pray for my family and me.

My mom passed away at 2.30 a.m.

I will probably be too broken hearted to get back on the web after this for a long time, plus the funeral is being held out of state. We'll probably leave this Tuesday and be gone for several days, so I couldn't get on the web anyhow.

I really, desperately need prayers. Thank you.

Our prayers are with you this morning. Your Mom is in a better place...

289 guzziguy  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:55:37am

I assume everyone is right about this being Charles' birthday. Probably a good day to hit the tip jar, located under "tools" top left, as a way of saying, "happy birthday and thanks for LGF."

290 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:55:39am

re: #265 gromster

((((((gromster))))))

Once things get settled down, please find a psychiatrist to help you find the right meds to help your clinical depression--if you haven't already. Meds can help restore your brain's chemistry.

291 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:56:16am

re: #259 MandyManners

Thank you for the compliment. Sometimes I believe I'm doing it right; other times I just wanna' jump in bed and pull the covers over my head. I wish he came with a manual.


Ever start a new job somewhere and person #1 won't give you the time of day or a little helping hand until you figure things out for yourself? Then person #2 notices that you are struggling and comes along at the right moment and with just a couple minutes help and the benefit of their experience, gets you going. All of a sudden the job becomes so much easier.
That's your manual. Be person number two. As long as possible, even when that testosterone thing kicks in.

292 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:56:17am

re: #265 gromster

{gromster}

Prayers to you and your family.

293 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:57:44am

re: #265 gromster

I'm so sorry Gromster. I lost my Mom years ago. It does get easier. I'll keep you in my prayers.

294 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:57:46am

re: #271 infidelia

That's what we need more of -- people who realize the house is on fire and this is not the time to focus on rearranging the furniture.

Yep.

295 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:58:34am

Gromster, I'm so sorry.

296 guzziguy  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:59:00am

re: #265 gromster

Immediate and continuing prayers for you and your family. Please don't isolate yourself. Find comfort in the companionship of friends and family, including those here at LGF.

297 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:59:08am

re: #280 MandyManners

My nic is blue for you right now. Please, contact me.

blue for you

298 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:59:26am

re: #265 gromster

Speaking as an atheist, I simply wish that you and your mother's surviving loved ones would take comfort in the fact that you (and your siblings?) are your mother's living legacy. Regardless of whether there is an afterlife or not, the best thing anyone can do before they pass away is to leave something good behind - possessions, memories, etc. for their children and relatives to enjoy.

It's like paying good things forward.

299 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:59:33am

re: #277 galloping granny

ROFLMAO. How many of us have wished that before you Mandy!

Try the carrot rather than the stick. I would suggest to you that he is smart enough to figure out that an A is far too much work for a lousy $5 though. And paying for grades is not the best idea anyway. Try the promise of a new video game if he completes the book report or something like that.

A new PS3/PSP game is far more expensive than $30.00. I want him to start looking at the long term, and nine weeks is a reasonable distance into the future.

300 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:59:42am

re: #280 MandyManners

My nic is blue for you right now. Please, contact me.

blue for you

301 abolitionist  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:00:17am

re: #258 laZardo

The one thing I fear about America leaving the UN is that we're the only thing keeping them from actually giving themselves policing powers.

For several decades, besides ultimate absolute authority over every shred of DNA on the planet, the UN has been seeking direct control of at least some of the world's nuclear arsenels --as deterence, you know, against rogue nations. Not.comforting.at.all.

302 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:00:37am

re: #282 Honorary Yooper

Obama's struck fund raising gold alright. It seems he is connected to a Nadhmi Auchi of Britian. Auchi is infamous for funneling weapons to Saddam Hussein and making a profit off it.

I have a ton of links about the Obama-Rezko-Auchi connections in the spinoff links section.

The MSM should be reporting on this horrific news. This is external influence on our electorate!

303 Thanos  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:01:32am

Gromster, sorry to hear friend. Once past the pain you must however take care of yourself, and the living. It's what would be wanted.

304 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:01:40am

re: #265 gromster

{gromster}

I will pray for you

the whole time
count on it
Your mother... ?
she is fine now
she has only Joy now
the grief is yours, not hers,
and it's a selfish thing, really, grief.
If you knew with all your being where she was going
you would be overjoyed for her
and it would cut your grief in two.
If you knew where she was going your depression would flee.
I know that it is your love and your need
for her that grieves you.
But the operative word there is you. Remember that.
You have no choice but to make it without her,
and you will make it without her.
Besides, you are neverreally without her,
she lives in your heart and in heaven.
In fact
strange as that may sound to you now, it may break your depression.
I speak not from a book from from my life.
As a man thinks so he is.

Be strong friend.
I'm right behind you.

305 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:01:54am

re: #291 EC Marm

Ever start a new job somewhere and person #1 won't give you the time of day or a little helping hand until you figure things out for yourself? Then person #2 notices that you are struggling and comes along at the right moment and with just a couple minutes help and the benefit of their experience, gets you going. All of a sudden the job becomes so much easier.
That's your manual. Be person number two. As long as possible, even when that testosterone thing kicks in.

I can be person No. 2!

306 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:01:56am

re: #270 MandyManners

where's the link

307 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:02:14am

sure..ok...yeah...whatever you say.......

A blast in a mosque in Iran that killed at least ten people last night was an accident, not an attack.
A senior Interior Ministry Official has said that the explosives were being stored for an exhibition commemorating the 1980s Iran-Iraq war.

More than 160 people are believed to have been wounded in the incident in the southern city of Shiraz.

[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

308 BignJames  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #301 abolitionist

And we know who they consider to be that rouge nation.

309 guzziguy  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #306 BabbaZee

where's the link

+1

310 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:02:32am

re: #265 gromster
Sorry for your loss. Please talk with a professional about your depression and how best to deal with this added sorrow.

311 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:02:35am

Sitting in an easy chair listening to the radio
The house is on fire but
They're playing my favorite song

312 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:03:29am

re: #299 MandyManners

A new PS3/PSP game is far more expensive than $30.00. I want him to start looking at the long term, and nine weeks is a reasonable distance into the future.

Not if you watch Amazon or Gamestop carefully. We fairly regularly find some of the latest Wii games for $29 or so on Goldbox.

And it doesn't have to be that - just something he would enjoy. Our kiddo gets cash to put away for the Mac laptop she wants, but she is a bit older. It could be something like a special trip to an amusement park or whatever. Just not a cold hard cash for the A thing. He's only 7 or so, right? Don't push those As too hard yet.

313 phoenixgirl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:03:31am

re: #304 BabbaZee

{babba} that was beautiful

314 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:03:33am

re: #283 loflyer

I have Spybot

315 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:03:37am

I wish I could put my arms around gromster.

316 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:03:49am

Just recovered most of my IE favorites. Here is something to stimulate you Dani California. I don't think has any connection to the song, but its entertaining....

317 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:00am

re: #300 storagemanager

Well?

318 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:08am

re: #302 MandyManners

I have recently sworn to myself that I will throw up my hands in despair and jump party lines if BHO wins the election. It'd convince me that the Age of Reason has finally been taken off its life support.

319 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:11am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (52 degrees, going up to 68 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

320 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:17am

re: #305 MandyManners

I can be person No. 2!


Beats the hell out of being client #9!

321 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:32am

re: #306 BabbaZee

I don't know if I'm willing to unveil it right now.

322 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:42am
323 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:48am

re: #279 haakondahl

HAAK!
how are you?

324 christheprofessor  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:04:52am

re: #265 gromster

I'm so sorry to hear that. Prayers on the way...

I lost my mother 11 years ago. I still miss her, but as time went by, the sharp pain that I always felt when I thought of her was slowly but surely replaced by good memories and feelings that never fail to bring a smile to my face now.

Hang in there. It will get better.

325 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:07am

re: #319 realwest

Good morning realwest. Sad news - gromster's mama passed away in the night.

326 Thanos  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:11am

I stopped in for a moment while posting news to drop off this quote from General Sherman that I came across in the hunt:

North design to conquer the South, we must begin at Kentucky and reconquer the country from there as we did from the Indians. It was this conviction then as plainly as now that made men think I was insane. A good many followers now want to make me a
prophet. I rather think you now agree with me that this is no common war. You must now see that I was right in not seeking prominence at the outstart. I knew and know yet that the northern people have to unlearn all their experience of the past thirty years and be born again before they will see the truth. Though our armies pass across and through the land, the war closes in behind and leaves the same enemy behind. ... I don’t see the end
or the beginning of the end, but suppose we must prevail and persist or perish. ... We cannot change the hearts of the people of the South, but we can make war so terrible that they will realize the fact that however brave and gallant and devoted to their country, still
they are mortal and should exhaust.
General Tecumseh Sherman, 1862

War is horror, but it's mainly about persistence. If you must war, then you must persist or lose all. How would Sherman be reported on by today's media?

327 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:21am

re: #202 laZardo

Well, she wouldn't be far off in that there is such a thing as a reptilian secret society. n.=.n

/did I say too much?

Oh sheesh, laZardo, tell me she's not into that stuff. Nobody's mom should be exposed to that level of conspiracy weirdness.

328 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:25am

re: #316 loflyer

Just recovered most of my IE favorites. Here is something to stimulate you Dani California. I don't think the video has any connection to the song, but its entertaining....

My mistake, incomplete thoughts...

329 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:36am

re: #318 laZardo

I have recently sworn to myself that I will throw up my hands in despair and jump party lines if BHO wins the election. It'd convince me that the Age of Reason has finally been taken off its life support.

It would be a huge set-back, for sure. But, I doubt he'd get another shot in four years.

330 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:38am

re: #307 storagemanager

sure..ok...yeah...whatever you say.......

[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

Explosives were being stored in a mosque?! You mean they are admitting that mosques are really arsenals? Flying pigs! I guess we don't need to worry about shooting at mosques anymore then, do we?

331 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:05:59am

re: #320 EC Marm

Beats the hell out of being client #9!

True, 'dat.

332 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:06:03am

re: #313 phoenixgirl

{PG}

333 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:06:27am

re: #321 MandyManners

Oh
Well when you do please make sure I know

334 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:06:55am

re: #317 MandyManners

Well?

did you send something?

335 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:06:56am

re: #318 laZardo

I have recently sworn to myself that I will throw up my hands in despair and jump party lines if BHO wins the election. It'd convince me that the Age of Reason has finally been taken off its life support.

Jump party lines to where?

336 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:07:23am

re: #326 Thanos

I stopped in for a moment while posting news to drop off this quote from General Sherman that I came across in the hunt:


War is horror, but it's mainly about persistence. If you must war, then you must persist or lose all. How would Sherman be reported on by today's media?

As a blood-thirsty savage!

337 BignJames  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:07:32am

re: #326 Thanos

Quagmire!

338 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:07:47am

re: #329 MandyManners

It would be a huge set-back, for sure. But, I doubt he'd get another shot in four years.

If there were still a Constitution and elections in four years to get a shot at.

339 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:08:18am

re: #334 storagemanager

I cannot contact others through their profiles. It's the way my ISP. So, my nic is again blue for you.

BBIAB. Gotta' persuade The Kid to get ready for church.

340 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:08:29am

Last night I couldn't sleep, so I got up in the night and put a new playlist together.

Sunday Morning Church

feel free to drop in..... pj's welcome :)

341 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:08:29am

re: #335 galloping granny

Anywhere but the sinking ship.

342 ethanxxx  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:08:38am

re: #319 realwest

Mornin' RW. Pretty here in Winston too. Going back to cold tonight though... Mid to upper 30's. Oh well... nice while it lasted.

Happy Day Charles!

343 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:09:21am

re: #330 galloping granny

Explosives were being stored in a mosque?! You mean they are admitting that mosques are really arsenals? Flying pigs! I guess we don't need to worry about shooting at mosques anymore then, do we?

I don't believe the story. Even Muslims have better sense than to store and display HE in a public area. The Iranian government is about as accurate as Baghdad Bob with news....

344 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:09:42am

BabbaZee...can you email Mandy..my e-mail addy?

345 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:09:51am

re: #315 mama winger

I wish I could put my arms around gromster.

You have, mama winger.

And around more people than you will ever know.

:)

346 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:09:57am

Jimmy Carter allegedly drops this quote in ABC's This Week.

"I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years," Carter said.
347 FrogMarch  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:10:31am

The Clintons have huge connections with the disgusting Chi-coms.

Hillary is such a phony - asking George Bush to boycott the opening ceremony. F*** her.

348 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:10:35am

re: #345 gettinby

Hi gettinby ! I was thinking of your greyhound last night. How is he doing?

349 Hengineer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:10:37am

Happy Birthday Charlie! =-P


Hello all lizards! Ahoy the ship!

350 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:10:52am

re: #344 storagemanager

sure thing

351 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:11:05am

re: #343 loflyer

I don't believe the story. Even Muslims have better sense than to store and display HE in a public area. The Iranian government is about as accurate as Baghdad Bob with news....

Oh I don't believe the story either. I just find it rather remarkable that, after all the incidents where we know darned good and well that they do store ordnance in mosques and they have denied any such goings on, NOW they will drag that out as an excuse.

352 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:11:14am

re: #325 mama winger
Good morning {mama} - I know, I responded to Gromster at #285 before I said good morning to y'all.
How are you doing mama?

353 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:11:45am

re: #346 Mich-again

Jimmy Carter allegedly drops this quote in ABC's This Week.

Where'dya get that?

354 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:15am

re: #340 mama winger

seriously
I am out of business now

LOL

355 The Albatross  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:28am

Please Gromster, do not confuse yourself with the difference between clinical depression and grief. A healthy grief cycle is 3 years and can be easily disrupted. In my own case, I have found that shifting the focus to my relationship with my parent and focusing all that I said or did to move through the time immediately following his death - helped me greatly to move through the experience without slipping into depression. For the first year, my focus was to immerse myself in examining my relationship with my father and setting my mind on what he would have me do to honor him. The second year, I chose to celebrate his birthday rather than the anniversary of his death and now I am at peace.

356 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:28am

Gotta grab a shower and get my day started. Be back soon-ish

357 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:38am

re: #353 BabbaZee

Where'dya get that?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

358 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:39am

re: #326 Thanos

I stopped in for a moment while posting news to drop off this quote from General Sherman that I came across in the hunt:


War is horror, but it's mainly about persistence. If you must war, then you must persist or lose all. How would Sherman be reported on by today's media?

They would demonize him and hound him out of his command. What I hear in his words is someone with the clear sight to understand that only the most dire actions will save his people and the courage to carry them out. One of the terrible things about war is that you must not evade the knowledge of what will happen not just to you but to eveverything you hold dear if you recoil from such decisions.

359 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:12:43am

re: #353 BabbaZee

Where'dya get that?

Thank you.

360 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:13:06am

re: #304 BabbaZee YO BABBA! That's was truly beautiful and I hope Gromster sees it and believes in it, because you're correct.
Still just beautifully written.

Oh, and good morning to you!

361 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:13:13am

re: #348 mama winger

Hi gettinby ! I was thinking of your greyhound last night. How is he doing?

Ahhh, how sweet of you!

I have to admit that he is the 2nd best dog I've ever encountered (right behind the ol' black labbiegirl, who, by the way, is very ill). :(

How are you and yours? I think of y'all constantly.

OH! AND GOOD MORNING {REALWEST}!

362 ethanxxx  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:13:22am

re: #343 loflyer

As spokesman for the 4/12 Troofers, I'd like to point out some facts.

1. Bombs and weapons of any kind are not allowed in Mosques.
These are Holy sites of peace. Not Bomb Labs!
2. No Jews showed-up for prayers yesterday at that Mosque... Coincidence?
3. Fire can not melt steel!

This has Bush/Chenney/Halliburton written all over it. When are we going to wake-up and see that the peaceful religion of Islam is under attack by the neo-cons and Danish Film makers.

363 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:13:24am

re: #330 galloping granny

Explosives were being stored in a mosque?! You mean they are admitting that mosques are really arsenals? Flying pigs! I guess we don't need to worry about shooting at mosques anymore then, do we?

See that's what happens when you don't practice mortar safety rules at home.

364 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:13:47am

re: #352 realwest

Good morning {mama} - I know, I responded to Gromster at #285 before I said good morning to y'all.
How are you doing mama?

Morning Real! Beautiful day down here, a little cool but its warming up, I get to mow the lawn later....

365 akak  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:14:33am

Classic Mark Steyn at Jawa!

366 Hengineer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:14:35am

re: #362 ethanxxx

As spokesman for the 4/12 Troofers, I'd like to point out some facts.

1. Bombs and weapons of any kind are not allowed in Mosques.
These are Holy sites of peace. Not Bomb Labs!
2. No Jews showed-up for prayers yesterday at that Mosque... Coincidence?
3. Fire can not melt steel!

This has Bush/Chenney/Halliburton written all over it. When are we going to wake-up and see that the peaceful religion of Islam is under attack by the neo-cons and Danish Film makers.

Don't forget the tell-all Minaret #7 right next to it! It's fire was by detonation! They even said on the radio to "pull it!"

367 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:15:09am

re: #354 BabbaZee
Start packing?
[Link: www.whotv.com...]

368 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:15:32am

Gromster,

I'm very sorry to hear about your mother.

In addition to all the good advice and wonderful prayers offered here:

Find somebody who needs your help, and help that person as much as you can. Go ahead. Knock yourself out.

Deal with clinical depression in the clinical manner, but do not let that be your only tool! It is said that "the quickest way to straighten a man up is to put a load on his back", and I believe it whole-heartedly.

When my father died a few years ago, I was able to "maintain" through helping others to maintain--even more so this year when my beautiful cousin (mother of three) died in a car wreck.

Despair, the feeling that there is nothing you *can* do, is magnified when you have nothing *to* do.

369 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:15:54am

They were Zionist fireworks.

370 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:16:00am

re: #354 BabbaZee

seriously
I am out of business now

LOL

Nevahhhhh !

371 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:16:51am

re: #323 BabbaZee

HAAK!
how are you?

Doing very well indeed. And you?

372 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:17:14am

re: #357 EC Marm

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

oh hohohoho

bad MFing craziness loose in this world
I have to prepare myself for anything at this point

373 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:17:36am

re: #269 BulgarWheat

gromster, sincere and profound prayers go out to you and your family.

pls. remember, she is in a better place now.

I second

374 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:17:59am

re: #352 realwest

Good morning {mama} - I know, I responded to Gromster at #285 before I said good morning to y'all.
How are you doing mama?

Oh - I didn't see that! oops :)

I'm doing good - didn't sleep a lick last night though so I am anticipating a long nap today. Plus my ugly little cat threw up on my cable box and now the TV doesn't work. And I am supposed to tape the Master's Tournament for Little Winger today.

He is not going to be pleased. lol

375 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:18:19am

re: #367 EC Marm

No thanks
my file's fat enough already

lol

376 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:18:40am

re: #361 gettinby

Your lab is sick? Oh no! What's happening?

377 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:18:43am

re: #371 haakondahl

Still kicking, brother

378 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:18:48am
Hillary Clinton has loudly demanded that George Bush boycott the Beijing Olympics opening ceremonies as a protest against China’s crackdown on Tibet and dissenters. However, Bill Clinton has found financial reward from collaborators with the Beijing government in that crackdown for his charitable foundation. Alibaba, which took over Yahoo’s operations in China, has paid for promotional work done by the former president in an amount he refuses to disclose:

[Link: hotair.com...]

379 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:18:50am

re: #372 BabbaZee

oh hohohoho

bad MFing craziness loose in this world
I have to prepare myself for anything at this point

The headline for this story on Fox is that Carter Shrugs off Criticism - money quote:

Former President Jimmy Carter said he feels "quite at ease" about meeting Hamas militants over the objections of Washington because the Palestinian group is essential to a future peace with Israel.

380 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:19:25am

re: #368 haakondahl

144,000 updingles

381 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:19:38am

re: #353 BabbaZee

Where'dya get that?

Transcript..

382 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:19:49am

Sunday Early Morning Open
Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:07:55 am PST

Who can hope to be safe? who sufficiently cautious?
Guard himself as he may, every moment’s an ambush.

— Horace


Beautiful beginning statement, Charles......the finishing up of it, would be the statement of where is the only safe place on this earth --letting the One who created you protect you..... :)

Happy birthday, & love ya

383 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:19:51am

re: #379 galloping granny

He feels at fucking ease becasue he is AUTHORIZED TO DO THIS

we watch a SHOW

384 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:20:01am

re: #362 ethanxxx

As spokesman for the 4/12 Troofers, I'd like to point out some facts.

1. Bombs and weapons of any kind are not allowed in Mosques.
These are Holy sites of peace. Not Bomb Labs!
2. No Jews showed-up for prayers yesterday at that Mosque... Coincidence?
3. Fire can not melt steel!

This has Bush/Chenney/Halliburton written all over it. When are we going to wake-up and see that the peaceful religion of Islam is under attack by the neo-cons and Danish Film makers.

The more I think about it, they might be telling the truth, Muslims trash green-houses and are in love with death. The Iranian government is known for it lies, so who knows what the facts are?

385 ethanxxx  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:20:08am

re: #368 haakondahl

Excellent advise. And that works for all trauma too, physical and mental. My mother passed away about 4 years ago... my father died of a broken heart about 7 months later. I know that there isn't much that any of us can say that will heal the pain.

386 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:20:11am

re: #381 Mich-again

MWAH

387 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:20:48am

re: #362 ethanxxx


2. No Jews showed-up for prayers yesterday at that Mosque... Coincidence?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

388 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:20:51am
389 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:21:13am

re: #230 MandyManners

Oh, the irony! So deep you need waders.

I had to stop wearing my "There is no BUT in freedom of speech" button because people thought I was a Bushitler moonbat. If I wear the "No Sharia" button people ask who the hell is Sharia?

390 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:21:34am

re: #388 Bobblehead

Obama does some damage control

Oh GOSH! That picture ! Hahahaha!

391 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:21:37am

re: #360 realwest

{REAL}

392 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:21:50am

re: #368 haakondahl

What a beautiful post.

As was BabbaZee's.

/Oh how I wish I could have even 1/100th of yours and Babba's verbal/written-from-the-heart skills.

393 Hengineer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:21:56am

re: #389 infidelia

I had to stop wearing my "There is no BUT in freedom of speech" button because people thought I was a Bushitler moonbat. If I wear the "No Sharia" button people ask who the hell is Sharia?

They might think its some sort of singer

394 Thanos  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:22:25am

More from the paper I am reading again:

I say you need to get out and read what our enemies have said. Remember Hitler. Remember he wrote Mein Kampf. He said in writing exactly what his plan was, and we collectively ignored that to our great detriment. Now, our enemies have said publicly on film, on the Internet, their goal is to destroy our way of life. No equivocation on their part. They're not saying if you stay home, we will not come
after you. They are saying their goal is to rid the Middle East of all foreigners. Then, overthrow all governments that are not friendly to them, which means every single one of those governments. Then, to use that base as a way to spread their terrorism and their oppression across the globe to include a map that shows 100 years from now that the entire globe will be under their domination. -- General Pace

However absorbed a commander may be in the elaboration of his own thoughts, it is
sometimes necessary to take the enemy into consideration.
Sir Winston Churchill, as quoted in FM 34-130,
Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield

.

And I know there is an international jihadist movement that desires to do us harm and
they have territorial ambitions. The reason I know that is that's what they've told us.
And part of their territorial ambition is to have safe haven in Iraq. That's what they've
said. That's what the enemy has clearly said. And it seems like to me that the
Commander-in-Chief ought to listen to what the enemy says.
President George W. Bush
Rose Garden Press Conference
June 14, 2006

[Link: www.strategycenter.net...]

395 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:22:25am

re: #383 BabbaZee

He feels at fucking ease becasue he is AUTHORIZED TO DO THIS

we watch a SHOW

I have to agree with you Babba.

396 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:22:53am

re: #370 mama winger

Nevahhhhh !

S'Ok it's good
I have other shit I should be doing

397 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:23:00am

The Zionist are selling fireworks that only blow up..when they come in contact with Muslims...they indeed want the world.

398 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:23:20am

re: #382 Ma Sands

Good morning Ma! Did you get that gospel link last night?

I have another old time religion music link for you this morning,

Here

399 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:23:27am

re: #344 storagemanager

Hiya'!

400 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:23:30am

re: #393 Hengineer

With top hits such as "Burqas on the Beach" and "Stones for Honor."

401 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:23:34am

From the interview with Carter about his icy relationship with Teddy Highball.

I didn't gain the support of Senator Kennedy, even after the convention.

The Democratic Party, unfortunately, was split very badly. And maybe it was my fault, because I didn't hold it together while I was president. But you may or may not remember that on the reviewing stand at the convention, after I clearly defeated Senator Kennedy two-to-one, he refused to shake my hand, ostentatiously, and made it clear to his supporters that he was not supporting me.

So, you know, that was a situation that I think, I hope was unique in American Democratic politics.

Until this year...

402 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:24:27am

re: #384 loflyer

The more I think about it, they might be telling the truth, Muslims trash green-houses and are in love with death. The Iranian government is known for it lies, so who knows what the facts are?

Speaking of, I heard or read somewhere recently that the muslims are now claiming the Wailing Wall as their "holy ground" because "that was where muhammed tied his horse!"

403 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:24:30am

re: #398 mama winger

Thank you mama; I was in such glory listening to it last night, I sent you an e-mail thanking you..... :)

404 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:25:05am

re: #403 Ma Sands

Thank you mama; I was in such glory listening to it last night, I sent you an e-mail thanking you..... :)

Oh shoot - once again I have neglected to check my email ! LOL!


looking now .....

405 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:25:17am

re: #328 loflyer Good morning my friend! You lost your IE favorites too?!
I lost all of mine (and the favorites from my Maxthon Browser - which Charles says is simply a shell over IE) last week!
I'm running XP Pro, have Spydoctor (Ad-Aware) and the full Norton Internet protection package (anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-adware etc. etc.) but it happened right after I closed down the computer and got that little notice that Microsoft was going to load updates (8 in all) and I'm wondering if MS didn't screw up my computer and wipe out my favorites, too?!
Plus yesterday I got the dreaded BSoD for an hour or so (I had shut down my computer and was running out the door to the cab, so the BSoD must have shown up then - no apparent damage done and I've since run Spyware Doctor and Norton FULL system scans and only found three tracking cookies.
SO I have no idea of why your favorites got wiped out too - but that's too weird to be a coincidence.
I'm gonna run an virus check on Imeems right now!

406 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:25:47am

re: #392 gettinby

{gettinby}

407 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:25:54am

re: #389 infidelia

I had to stop wearing my "There is no BUT in freedom of speech" button because people thought I was a Bushitler moonbat. If I wear the "No Sharia" button people ask who the hell is Sharia?

LOL! Mymymymymy Sharia!

It'd be neat to rewrite that song.

408 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:26:11am

re: #395 galloping granny

Breaks my heart.

409 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:26:19am

re: #388 Bobblehead

Obama does some damage control

LOL, However Miss Jane Hathaway would probably slug Obama for categorizing her as a "typical rural white person"!

410 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:26:46am

BBIAB.

411 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:27:09am

re: #407 MandyManners

LOL! Mymymymymy Sharia!

It'd be neat to rewrite that song.

Where is Weird Al when we need him?

412 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:27:21am

re: #405 realwest

Good morning my friend! You lost your IE favorites too?!
I lost all of mine (and the favorites from my Maxthon Browser - which Charles says is simply a shell over IE) last week!
I'm running XP Pro, have Spydoctor (Ad-Aware) and the full Norton Internet protection package (anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-adware etc. etc.) but it happened right after I closed down the computer and got that little notice that Microsoft was going to load updates (8 in all) and I'm wondering if MS didn't screw up my computer and wipe out my favorites, too?!
Plus yesterday I got the dreaded BSoD for an hour or so (I had shut down my computer and was running out the door to the cab, so the BSoD must have shown up then - no apparent damage done and I've since run Spyware Doctor and Norton FULL system scans and only found three tracking cookies.
SO I have no idea of why your favorites got wiped out too - but that's too weird to be a coincidence.
I'm gonna run an virus check on Imeems right now!

Realwest, that Norton "full internet protection" package is a piece of crap on a crutch that not a security professional in the world will allow on their machines. And it can interfere with the workings of the real thing. Download the AVG free edition, then uninstall that Norton crap and install the AVG.

413 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:28:09am

re: #411 infidelia

Where is Weird Al when we need him?

I love Weird Al

414 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:28:10am

re: #376 mama winger

Your lab is sick? Oh no! What's happening?

I don't like bothering everyone with my "issues," so I'll keep this brief.

She's almost 11. Her belly bloated up about a month ago (looks like a huge pot-bellied pig belly). It's a heart valve that won't work, so fluid is building up; and listening to her heart with the stethoscope, it sounds like a constant whooshing stream of water.

Vet has her on Lasix 50mg 2x/day. Says there's nothing we can do except wait (or a heart-valve transplant).

The lab is truly, truly, the best of the best! (imho, of course)

415 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:28:27am

re: #361 gettinby Hey {gettingby} I'm sorry to hear about your dog and hope she recovers soon! How are you doing today?

416 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:28:30am

re: #412 galloping granny

I've been looking into NOD32 myself.

417 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:28:31am

I am a bitter white man, a gun in my right hand and a Bible in the left..watch out!

418 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:29:12am

re: #414 gettinby

Oh gee, gettinby. I feel for your little lab baby. And you too.

419 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:29:13am

A mother & young daughter are in front of the Lion cage at the NY zoo.
The little Girl gets too close & the lion grabs her , trying to bite her, all observed by an NY Times reporter.
A man rushes to the rescue, punching the lion on the nose, who lets the girl go & whimpers away.
The reporter approaches the man, :"That was fantastic.Were you scared?"
'No",the man replies,"i believed that the Lord would protect me like Daniel in the lions den"
"Well whats that book that you are holding", asks the reporter
"Why it's a Bible" Replies the man."I am on my way to Bible study"
The reporter says, "Make sure that you get the Times tomorrow. This story will be in it."
Next morning the guy picks up the paper & reads,
'Christian religious fanatic physically assaults African immigrant & steals his lunch"

420 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:29:22am

re: #402 galloping granny

Speaking of, I heard or read somewhere recently that the muslims are now claiming the Wailing Wall as their "holy ground" because "that was where muhammed tied his horse!"

That flies in the face of everything the Wahabbis in the Kingdom are doing right now to destroy all Islam's historical sites. They have bulldozed many ancient "holy ground" places.

421 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:29:43am

re: #417 storagemanager

lol

422 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:03am

re: #419 opnion

Yeah - that's about right! lol

423 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:11am

re: #416 laZardo

I've been looking into NOD32 myself.

I'm not familiar with that one laZardo.

424 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:15am

re: #344 storagemanager Good morning my friend - uh, your nic is in blue, so Mandy shouldn't need to get your e-mail addy from BZ!
Just saying.................!

425 christheprofessor  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:20am

re: #409 loflyer

LOL, However Miss Jane Hathaway would probably slug Obama for categorizing her as a "typical rural white person"!

I doubt it. I bet she would be supporting him big-time if she were alive. She was a huge lib...

426 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:40am

From BabbaZee's earlier link:

"I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years," Carter said.

427 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:48am

Good Mornig All......and Happy Birthday Charles

428 BignJames  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:30:51am

re: #392 gettinby


gettin' by

429 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:31:37am

re: #424 realwest

Good morning my friend - uh, your nic is in blue, so Mandy shouldn't need to get your e-mail addy from BZ!
Just saying.................!


said she can't do it that way...good morning..hope you are having a nice Sunday.

430 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:31:47am

re: #423 galloping granny

I've been told that it's as good as AVG in places. Then again they both come from similar parts of the world (AVG's from Czech, ESET from Slovakia).

431 christheprofessor  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:32:00am

re: #361 gettinby

Hate to hear that... Hope she gets better soon... I don't think they make dogs better than black labs.

432 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:32:02am

re: #417 storagemanager

I am a bitter white man, a gun in my right hand and a Bible in the left..watch out!

Careful--sounds like Arafat at the UN.

433 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:32:19am

re: #406 BabbaZee

{BabbaZee}

/now I'm crying like a child.
//it's a good-type cry. :)

434 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:32:44am

re: #405 realwest

Real, I lost the entire OS, not just my favs..I'll get the desktop guys at work to rebuild it. Was really impressed with Imeems till I clicked on a Led Zepplin song, this was partially my fault because my anti-virus software is really bad. Sort of like blaming yourself for being robbed in a bad part of town.

435 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:32:48am

re: #409 loflyer

LOL, However Miss Jane Hathaway would probably slug Obama for categorizing her as a "typical rural white person"!

And Daisy Moses would kick his arse and spit tabacky juice on his shoes.

436 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:33:13am

re: #422 mama winger

Yeah - that's about right! lol

I saw this & had to post it

437 Thanos  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:33:47am

re: #412 galloping granny

Realwest, that Norton "full internet protection" package is a piece of crap on a crutch that not a security professional in the world will allow on their machines. And it can interfere with the workings of the real thing. Download the AVG free edition, then uninstall that Norton crap and install the AVG.


I agree with GG, stay away from Norton. It sometimes does things to your machine in the name of security that takes a full disk repartition and format to recover from. Norton has always been to fond of playing with assembler code outside of the conventions. ( here I reference their infamous "recovery drive" system)

438 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:34:31am

re: #433 gettinby

Mwah

439 ethanxxx  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:34:37am

Iranian Mosque Bombing Mystery Solved!
I cut this from the story at Jihad Watch

On Sunday, the deputy interior minister in charge of security, Abbas Mohataj, said the explosion was "the result of an incident." He didn't elaborate.

Oh!... an Incident. Well... case closed then.

440 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:35:06am

The U.K. is lost.........

This morning, my son asked to go swimming at 10 am. As he was going to play with a friend at 11.30, I agreed to take him early. I checked the pool programme online... and the opening times. Apparently, the pool was open, and no special programmes were being run. So, off we trundled. When I arrived at the pool, I was told that we could not swim in it until 10.45. The reason is that it was being used for ‘Muslim Male Swimming’. This is apparently so every Sunday morning. I couldn’t quite believe that a swimming pool was really institutionalising both gender and religious segregation... Apparently, this is a policy insisted on by Hackney Council, which sets the policy for all Hackney pools

. [Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

441 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:35:27am

re: #430 laZardo

I've been told that it's as good as AVG in places. Then again they both come from similar parts of the world (AVG's from Czech, ESET from Slovakia).

AVG has a long history of excellence. I would want to do some serious research before I switched or recommended something new to others.

442 Thanos  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:36:00am

Back to the news for me, see you later Lizards

443 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:36:23am

Queen Condi of the Amalekites Tips Her Hand

Fortunately, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Department of State team have gone a bit too far and exposed their hand.

'Coincidentally,' just after Rice’s team left, it was revealed that America will hold back military resupply to Israel

This comes together nicely with the $60 billion-plus dollars worth of American arms that have been supplied to Egypt.

Holding back military resupply is an old State Department tactic, used best by Henry Kissinger in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, to ensure that Israel would be "more flexible" when she was forced into post-war negotiations. I remember hearing that Kissinger said: 'Let Israel bleed a little. She’ll give up more in negotiations if she bleeds a little.' Kissinger’s deliberate delay of resupplying Israel until the eighth day of the war led to many needless deaths and endangered Israel severely.

[SNIP]


Carter's trip is AUTHORIZED

444 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:37:13am

re: #443 BabbaZee

aaaaaacccckkkkkkk

445 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:37:32am

re: #415 realwest

Doing pretty darned good. I would call my overall existence as being in a state of gratitude. (Better than being generally just pissed off? LOL)

re: #418 mama winger

Thank you very much...our pets can be so damned special sometimes that it just hurts.

re: #428 BignJames

Looks like a cool thing. It says I have to download something in order to play it. Is it okay to download? (I always get nervous about downloading new things...caught a nasty virus once.)

446 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:37:42am

re: #391 BabbaZee Hey Babba - great tune and I send it right back to you!

447 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:37:54am

I no longer use any MS crap at home. I run Ubuntu wide-open, no Anti-nothing, and Firefox with commonsense security settings.

No. Problem.

I'm at work now, and on one of my development machines (hooked to a commercial provider, not the company LAN), I squeezed XP down to 1/4 of the HDD, and put Ubuntu on the other 3/4. Which is how I am talking to you now. Virus-free.

I cannot describe my frustration with Windows. I bought a speed king of a computer pre-loaded with Vista Premium. That lasted less than two weeks. When it came time to squeeze that guy;s partition down, it wanted me to "prepare 15 blank CDs for the restore CD creation"! CTRL+ALT+DEL time, and let Ubuntu format C:, thank you very much.

448 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:38:28am

Barry & his campaign have gone to Defcon 1.
It is pure sophistry, "I know what you think that you heard, but this is what he meant, Sheeesh."
We will now be lectured & treated like a bunch of hicks.
I still want my Moon Pie & I don't care if I have it with RC Cola or Doctor Pepper.
Actually, I find that it goes best with DP.

449 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:38:33am

re: #443 BabbaZee

Queen Condi of the Amalekites Tips Her Hand

Fortunately, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Department of State team have gone a bit too far and exposed their hand.

'Coincidentally,' just after Rice’s team left, it was revealed that America will hold back military resupply to Israel

This comes together nicely with the $60 billion-plus dollars worth of American arms that have been supplied to Egypt.

Holding back military resupply is an old State Department tactic, used best by Henry Kissinger in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, to ensure that Israel would be "more flexible" when she was forced into post-war negotiations. I remember hearing that Kissinger said: 'Let Israel bleed a little. She’ll give up more in negotiations if she bleeds a little.' Kissinger’s deliberate delay of resupplying Israel until the eighth day of the war led to many needless deaths and endangered Israel severely.

[SNIP]


Carter's trip is AUTHORIZED

This is how they ended the war with Lebanon a couple of years ago too. Held up a delivery of aviation fuel I think it was and refused to authorized sale of some other necessary stuff.

450 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:38:49am

re: #444 mama winger

aaaaaacccckkkkkkk

451 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:38:59am

re: #449 galloping granny

This is how they ended the war with Lebanon a couple of years ago too. Held up a delivery of aviation fuel I think it was and refused to authorized sale of some other necessary stuff.

Mmhmm

452 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:39:05am

re: #431 christheprofessor

Hate to hear that... Hope she gets better soon... I don't think they make dogs better than black labs.

Oh, it's so good to see you fellow-black-lab-lover!

Thanks. I knew you would know how it feels.

How's the new one?

453 phoenixgirl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:39:24am

re: #443 BabbaZee

i'm sick

454 BignJames  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:39:55am

re: #445 gettinby

Yep...if you find you don't want to keep it...delete.

455 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:39:57am

re: #388 Bobblehead

Obama does some damage control

LMAO! I have seen every episode of the Hillbillies at least twice and I could just see a show with smooth-talking Obama the candidate calling upon the Clampett's for a donation.

/queue the bluegrass lead-in music..

456 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:40:55am

re: #434 loflyer

Real, I lost the entire OS, not just my favs..I'll get the desktop guys at work to rebuild it. Was really impressed with Imeems till I clicked on a Led Zepplin song, this was partially my fault because my anti-virus software is really bad. Sort of like blaming yourself for being robbed in a bad part of town.

re: #440 storagemanager

The U.K. is lost.........


. [Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

"Muslim MALE Swimming"?!? Oh, I'd demand a detailed explanation for that one. Something along the lines of not letting the filty kuffar get traces of bacon grease and dog saliva in the pool no doubt.

457 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:41:22am
458 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:42:32am

re: #447 haakondahl

I no longer use any MS crap at home. I run Ubuntu wide-open, no Anti-nothing, and Firefox with commonsense security settings.

No. Problem.

I'm at work now, and on one of my development machines (hooked to a commercial provider, not the company LAN), I squeezed XP down to 1/4 of the HDD, and put Ubuntu on the other 3/4. Which is how I am talking to you now. Virus-free.

I cannot describe my frustration with Windows. I bought a speed king of a computer pre-loaded with Vista Premium. That lasted less than two weeks. When it came time to squeeze that guy;s partition down, it wanted me to "prepare 15 blank CDs for the restore CD creation"! CTRL+ALT+DEL time, and let Ubuntu format C:, thank you very much.

FIFTEEN blank CDs? In a pig's eye. This happens to be our last Windows machine (bought because most of the educational software runs only on Windows) and I have to tell you it has for some odd reason lasted longer than the previous 4 or 5 put together. I won't give houseroom to Vista though. And Gates has already announced that they are moving up the release of the next edition of Windows to 2009 instead of 2011.

One by one we have been replacing the entire mess with Mac.

459 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:42:45am

re: #452 gettinby

Oh, it's so good to see you fellow-black-lab-lover!

Thanks. I knew you would know how it feels.

How's the new one?

except for chocolate..lol

460 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:42:49am

re: #425 christheprofessor

I doubt it. I bet she would be supporting him big-time if she were alive. She was a huge lib...

Just because she tried to save the condor?!

461 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:42:53am

re: #443 BabbaZee

Ugh. Sickening feeling that you are right. If Ford were alive, W. would have paired them up for the trip.

462 loflyer  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:43:20am

Gota run guys, BBL, Gromster, Our thoughts are with you and your family.

463 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:44:20am

re: #379 galloping granny

Yeah, Hamas is essential for a peace...if they would quit murdering everyone in sight. Then there'd be real peace! You see? Jimmah is right!

464 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:44:57am

re: #435 Mich-again

And Daisy Moses would kick his arse and spit tabacky juice on his shoes.

He'd have to pry her gun out of Cousin Bessie's cold, dead hands...er, paws.

465 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:46:03am

re: #412 galloping granny Uh, good morning to you, too! I'm not sure what AVG is or what you mean by it, but I'm running it because it was suggested to me (the full Internet Protection Package, not just the Anti-Virus) by a computer security specialist; he also recommended adding on Spyware Doctor cause not one single program can catch everything and Spyware Doctor will also detect and notify me of malware. I feel quite comfortable using both Norton Internet and Spyware Doctor.

466 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:46:27am

re: #461 haakondahl

I used to get eaten alive here for even intimating anything about the administrations complicity in
and sell out
of us, and of Israel.
Now it is becoming so obvious
even people who think I am completely nuts have to stop and say hmmmm every now and again

467 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:47:16am

re: #443 BabbaZee

Queen Condi of the Amalekites Tips Her Hand

Fortunately, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Department of State team have gone a bit too far and exposed their hand.

'Coincidentally,' just after Rice’s team left, it was revealed that America will hold back military resupply to Israel

This comes together nicely with the $60 billion-plus dollars worth of American arms that have been supplied to Egypt.

Holding back military resupply is an old State Department tactic, used best by Henry Kissinger in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, to ensure that Israel would be "more flexible" when she was forced into post-war negotiations. I remember hearing that Kissinger said: 'Let Israel bleed a little. She’ll give up more in negotiations if she bleeds a little.' Kissinger’s deliberate delay of resupplying Israel until the eighth day of the war led to many needless deaths and endangered Israel severely.

[SNIP]


Carter's trip is AUTHORIZED

WHAT THE FUCK?

468 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:47:31am

re: #405 realwest

Good morning my friend! You lost your IE favorites too?!
I lost all of mine (and the favorites from my Maxthon Browser - which Charles says is simply a shell over IE) last week!
I'm running XP Pro, have Spydoctor (Ad-Aware) and the full Norton Internet protection package (anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-adware etc. etc.) but it happened right after I closed down the computer and got that little notice that Microsoft was going to load updates (8 in all) and I'm wondering if MS didn't screw up my computer and wipe out my favorites, too?!
Plus yesterday I got the dreaded BSoD for an hour or so (I had shut down my computer and was running out the door to the cab, so the BSoD must have shown up then - no apparent damage done and I've since run Spyware Doctor and Norton FULL system scans and only found three tracking cookies.
SO I have no idea of why your favorites got wiped out too - but that's too weird to be a coincidence.
I'm gonna run an virus check on Imeems right now!

Gotta do backups on your favorites...on another hard drive, or at least a copy elsewhere on your C drive if you don't have more than one. Mine started freaking out yesterday, I ran multiple spyware checkers, antivirus, the whole shebang. Finally, it turned out that my beloved split keyboard gave up the ghost. Now I'm typing on a frakkin' little regular one... I have to get a new one...this bytes.

469 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:47:38am

re: #465 realwest Sorry {gg} hit post before I intended to; I do thank you for your concerns though and you were right about the Blue Screen of Death - I haven't lost anything at all even tho the BSoD said it was dumping files and apparently had been for over an hour!
Thanks again!

470 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:47:57am

re: #457 BabbaZee

Or the Hair Metal version..

471 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:48:30am

re: #467 MandyManners

GWB & Condi: ever so discreetly throwing Israel under the bus since 2004

472 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:48:36am

And, before I forget and lose what little memory I have left (lol) HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES!

473 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:48:58am

re: #414 gettinby

I don't like bothering everyone with my "issues," so I'll keep this brief.

She's almost 11. Her belly bloated up about a month ago (looks like a huge pot-bellied pig belly). It's a heart valve that won't work, so fluid is building up; and listening to her heart with the stethoscope, it sounds like a constant whooshing stream of water.

Vet has her on Lasix 50mg 2x/day. Says there's nothing we can do except wait (or a heart-valve transplant).

The lab is truly, truly, the best of the best! (imho, of course)

{gettinby}

474 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:49:17am

re: #470 Mich-again

Ucccch they are on my no spin list LOL
When we went to the US Festival in '83, I had never heard of them, when they came out on stage I thought they were dykes. LOL!

475 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:49:20am

re: #455 Mich-again

LMAO! I have seen every episode of the Hillbillies at least twice and I could just see a show with smooth-talking Obama the candidate calling upon the Clampett's for a donation.

/queue the bluegrass lead-in music..

And, we know how Jed and his kin handled smooth-talking con artists! Remember the episode when the colonel and his accomplice tried to black-mail Jed with the photographs taken by that cuckoo clock?

476 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:50:28am

re: #468 bikermailman Whoa! Your keyboard was responsible for that?!
I've been having all sorts of problems with my mouse, and so installed a new one - have to use a USB port cause for some reason the PS/2 port doesn't want to work and mouse is still wonky!

477 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:50:51am

re: #466 BabbaZee

I got savaged over on the daytime threads for calling a smelly hippie progressive a smelly hippie progressive (or something like it). Fine, fuck 'em. I hope that the monitor lizards are selected with the sort of bone-crushing efficiency we have come to expect around here. This place is in need of a purge.

478 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:50:53am

re: #471 BabbaZee

GWB & Condi: ever so discreetly throwing Israel under the bus since 2004

It's too early in the morning for my head to hurt.

479 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:51:11am

Preach the Gospel.....Christafari one of my favs

480 goddessoftheclassroom[deleted]  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:52:03am
481 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:52:56am

re: #477 haakondahl

Eee-oooo, Haak settle down!
A purge?
lol
I hate Pogrom Season!

482 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:53:17am

re: #478 MandyManners

S'Ok that's my job

lol

483 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:53:22am

re: #480 goddessoftheclassroomGromster..mother died...in need of prayers.

484 _remembertonyc  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:53:26am

I'm guessing that some of you are familiar with David Horowitz's web site called "Front Page Magazine." Yesterday I stumbled on this piece about how splodeydopes are created and cynically nurtured by the death cult we all know as radical islam.

[Link: www.frontpagemagazine.com...]

It's a bit long, but absolutely fascinating.

485 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:53:58am
486 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:54:59am

re: #484 _remembertonyc
Front page is one of the best on the web...I go there daily.

487 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:55:03am

re: #449 galloping granny

This is how they ended the war with Lebanon a couple of years ago too. Held up a delivery of aviation fuel I think it was and refused to authorized sale of some other necessary stuff.

That may have worked back in 1973 (when I tried to enlist in the Israeli Army but found out I'd lose my American passport if I did) but iirc, Israel processs and produces it's own aviation fuel and makes most of it's own munitions, too. I think Israel can deal - all by itself - with any threat from any or all of the Arab/Persian nations out there.
But it still is another reason to vote for McCain (which, given who the Dems will pick is already a no-brainer).

488 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:55:14am

re: #476 realwest

Whoa! Your keyboard was responsible for that?!
I've been having all sorts of problems with my mouse, and so installed a new one - have to use a USB port cause for some reason the PS/2 port doesn't want to work and mouse is still wonky!

Yeah, every time I clicked a link, it would open up whole new windows, hit ctrl alt delete, and a windows explorer window would open, get a page with a signin option, it would type in gobbledyygook all on its own... It's just fine now, except for my fingers being all squished together. I just love the split keyboards.

489 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:55:54am

re: #455 Mich-again

LMAO! I have seen every episode of the Hillbillies at least twice and I could just see a show with smooth-talking Obama the candidate calling upon the Clampett's for a donation.

/queue the bluegrass lead-in music..

The Hyde Park area of Chicago where the Obamas live is a mixed population of the very upscale, white wine & cheese set and the next to invisible poor.
Guess which group Thing One & Thing Two socialize with.
Barry loves the unwashed masses in the abstract.
As far as rural white America, I am sure that Barry & Michelle view those people as rather exotic, alien life forms.

490 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:56:27am

re: #459 storagemanager

except for chocolate..lol

They are one-in-the-same, aren't they? The chocolates are sooo beautiful!

re: #473 bikermailman

Thank you.

491 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:56:29am

If you follow the lyrics too closely, you'll go straight to Hell, but other than that, it's a pretty good song for disaffected Republicans. Consider the song a cross between a crisis of faith and a bad bad bad breakup. Yeah, that sounds like us.

Besides--you get to see Lemmy in a tie.

492 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:57:09am

re: #480 goddessoftheclassroom

If you could, add my Mom to the list. The lower part of her heart is crapping out, and she goes in next month to get a new pacemaker, one that will pump the whole heart for her, and with a defibrillator as well.

493 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:57:34am

re: #443 BabbaZee

Now that hit me hard, Babba.......I know things will shape up for the end that has been told --but somehow I figured we would prove not to be part of causing Israel's fears.....it really hurts, to be privy to what goes on behind the scenes.....

494 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:57:39am

re: #489 opnion

Thing One & Thing Two

Ahhhaaa hhahhahha hAH aaaa
That's not fair to thing 1 & thing 2 though

495 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:57:51am

re: #490 gettinby

They are one-in-the-same, aren't they? The chocolates are sooo beautiful!

re: #473 bikermailman

Thank you.


I was joking cause mine is chocolate

496 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:58:15am

re: #486 storagemanager

Front page is one of the best on the web...I go there daily.

Ditto... and should be ditto.

497 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:58:16am

re: #483 storagemanager

{storagemanager}

I am so sorry.

498 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:58:27am

re: #480 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess}. Gromster advised us this morning that his mother died last night. I think Gromster needs to be put in the other category (LGF Family and Friends Situations) now.

499 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:58:29am

re: #494 BabbaZee

Ahhhaaa hhahhahha hAH aaaa
That's not fair to thing 1 & thing 2 though

I see your point.

500 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:00am

re: #493 Ma Sands

Now that hit me hard, Babba.......I know things will shape up for the end that has been told --but somehow I figured we would prove not to be part of causing Israel's fears.....it really hurts, to be privy to what goes on behind the scenes.....

we will pay a heavy price for it too.

501 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:01am

re: #464 MandyManners

He'd have to pry her gun out of Cousin Bessie's cold, dead hands...er, paws.

or Dash Riprock, Foster Phinney, Jazzbo Depew, Gloria Buckles, Fleming Pendleton, Mabel Slocum, or Shifty Shafer.

502 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:33am

re: #488 bikermailman

Yeah, every time I clicked a link, it would open up whole new windows, hit ctrl alt delete, and a windows explorer window would open, get a page with a signin option, it would type in gobbledyygook all on its own... It's just fine now, except for my fingers being all squished together. I just love the split keyboards.

Post-Vista I'd believe anything. If I accidentally hit a couple of F-keys the top of my screen rolls up out of sight. Only way to get it back is to randomly tap a few F-keys in the same general vicinity. Now WTF is that all about?

I'd be grateful just to get the damn thing to play DVDs for me at home like it does for the Geeks at BB. Apparently the solution to this particular glitch requires I first get a degree from MIT...

503 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:38am

re: #490 gettinby

They are one-in-the-same, aren't they? The chocolates are sooo beautiful!

re: #473 bikermailman

Thank you.

You're very welcome. I love my labs... One is laying at my feet with his head on my foot, the other's not far away. Since I don't have kids, they really are my children. :)

504 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:44am

re: #493 Ma Sands

I got "a word" on October 18th 2004

Whenever that happens I write it down.
It said exactly this:


"America will betray Israel,
America is betraying her right now,
prepare for The Day"

505 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:45am

re: #465 realwest

Uh, good morning to you, too! I'm not sure what AVG is or what you mean by it, but I'm running it because it was suggested to me (the full Internet Protection Package, not just the Anti-Virus) by a computer security specialist; he also recommended adding on Spyware Doctor cause not one single program can catch everything and Spyware Doctor will also detect and notify me of malware. I feel quite comfortable using both Norton Internet and Spyware Doctor.

REalwest, I don't know who this so-called "security specialist" is (not Geek Squad was it?) but he recommended that crap to you to MAKE $$$$$$. The more stuff that you pile on in the way of "security" the more potential you have for conflicts between all the various pieces of software. They hog resources and nothing runs correctly. And YOU end up with a dead machine while the "expert" walks away whistling Dixie with lots of extra bucks in his pocket.

Spyware - Get Spybot Search and Destroy. It is free (so the expert gets no commission.) It is the single best spyware program on the market today and has been for about a decade. Spyware Doctor is a piece of utter crap. Take it off your machine. If you feel "inadequately" protected then get the AdAware free version.

You will find AVG here: [Link: free.grisoft.com...]
That page is to the free version, but there is a version you can pay for if it will make you feel like you are getting better protection if you pay.

You do not need anything else except perhaps a fire wall, but Windows has one built in. (Not the best but not complicated and I suspect you are not surfing porn sites.)

Bothy Spybot and AVG are made freely available to the "little guy" public as a good deed, not because they are of lower quality or less than adequate.

506 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 6:59:59am

re: #443 BabbaZee

Both times are war crimes.

507 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:00:04am

re: #492 bikermailman
Oh geez, I sure hope and will pray that all goes well for her and for you my friend.

508 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:00:12am

re: #497 goddessoftheclassroom

{storagemanager}

I am so sorry.


it was Gromster...my mother died last year.

509 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:00:24am

Good morning Lizardia! Currently 46 degrees in Chambodia, maybe going up to 60. Supposed to get in the thirties tonite. Meanwhile it was around 80 on Friday. The Ice sheet cometh!

It's Charles Birthday? Happy Birthday Charles!

Hmmm ... an Aries ...

510 _remembertonyc  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:00:26am

re: #486 storagemanager ...

agreed ... thanks to sites like LGF, Front Page Mag, and Hot Air, we are all a bit smarter.

511 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:01:05am

re: #492 bikermailman

Done.

512 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:01:33am

re: #506 Roger

Both times are war crimes.

Agree. I think you need to take me to play some hockey!

513 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:01:33am

re: #488 bikermailman

Yeah, every time I clicked a link, it would open up whole new windows, hit ctrl alt delete, and a windows explorer window would open, get a page with a signin option, it would type in gobbledyygook all on its own... It's just fine now, except for my fingers being all squished together. I just love the split keyboards.

Remember ALT+F4. It will shut down a misbehaving window without activating the "OnWindowClose()" event (or whatever it's called). It's the difference between asking an assailant to leave and shooting him between the eyes.

Be careful where you use ALT+F4. It *will* shut down anything you tell it to--the window with the blue title bar is toast.

514 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:01:35am

re: #501 Mich-again

or Dash Riprock, Foster Phinney, Jazzbo Depew, Gloria Buckles, Fleming Pendleton, Mabel Slocum, or Shifty Shafer.

Good memory thingy in your brain!

515 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:01:57am

re: #480 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you, goddess, for leaving my daughter on the prayer list --it has been so silent from there, again, ever since that one phone call......I fear she must still be having struggles with those blues..... ):

516 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:14am

Also, I think we need to come up with a pretty solid prayer that President Bush and Condi Rice, et al, find their brains and good sense.

I've been looking for a good word or two to describe what they are doing to Israel...can only come up with something along the lines of "....f*cked up..."

It seems to me they are committing a very dangerous and stupid error - they AREN'T LISTENING to what is right and just.

517 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:26am

re: #504 BabbaZee Um, Babba - don't want to dispute "the word" you got, but America is NOT going to betray Israel's friendship. Not Ever.

518 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:42am

re: #517 realwest

Um, Babba - don't want to dispute "the word" you got, but America is NOT going to betray Israel's friendship. Not Ever.

HA!

519 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:53am

re: #517 realwest

It is happening RIGHT NOW

520 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:56am

re: #508 storagemanager

it was Gromster...my mother died last year.

Thanks for the clarification--I've made the correction.

521 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:02:56am

re: #502 infidelia

Post-Vista I'd believe anything. If I accidentally hit a couple of F-keys the top of my screen rolls up out of sight. Only way to get it back is to randomly tap a few F-keys in the same general vicinity. Now WTF is that all about?

I'd be grateful just to get the damn thing to play DVDs for me at home like it does for the Geeks at BB. Apparently the solution to this particular glitch requires I first get a degree from MIT...

I'm running XP Pro, won't touch Vista. This just turned out to be a simple case of a six year old keyboard on its last legs. Thankfully. I need to back everything over, then wipe and reinstall, I'm overdue for it.

522 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:03:04am

re: #508 storagemanager

My prayer yesterday was that gromster's mother would be as comfortable and thus alert as as possible during this time.

523 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:04:36am

re: #504 BabbaZee

I got "a word" on October 18th 2004

Whenever that happens I write it down.
It said exactly this:

The Gift of Prophecy... It just tears me up that we're going down that road.

524 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:04:43am

re: #503 bikermailman

Yup...me, too. :)

And prayers for your mom {bikermailman}.

525 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:04:53am

re: #505 galloping granny

REalwest, I don't know who this so-called "security specialist" is (not Geek Squad was it?) but he recommended that crap to you to MAKE $$$$$$. The more stuff that you pile on in the way of "security" the more potential you have for conflicts between all the various pieces of software. They hog resources and nothing runs correctly. And YOU end up with a dead machine while the "expert" walks away whistling Dixie with lots of extra bucks in his pocket.

Spyware - Get Spybot Search and Destroy. It is free (so the expert gets no commission.) It is the single best spyware program on the market today and has been for about a decade. Spyware Doctor is a piece of utter crap. Take it off your machine. If you feel "inadequately" protected then get the AdAware free version.

You will find AVG here: [Link: free.grisoft.com...]
That page is to the free version, but there is a version you can pay for if it will make you feel like you are getting better protection if you pay.

You do not need anything else except perhaps a fire wall, but Windows has one built in. (Not the best but not complicated and I suspect you are not surfing porn sites.)

Bothy Spybot and AVG are made freely available to the "little guy" public as a good deed, not because they are of lower quality or less than adequate.

Uh-oh. Grannyl, can you break the bad news about the Geeks to me gently? I've already discovered they're useless, and the ones at my BB are arrogant jerks, but they came with the package so what's the best alternative?

Spybot does seem to live up to its rep, though. I've had zilch problems in that area at least.

526 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:04:54am

re: #514 MandyManners

No way is my memory that good!

527 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:05:06am

re: #500 storagemanager

re: #504 BabbaZee


Watching, quietly.......hoping now only for what I may be called on to do.....

528 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:05:23am

I've got to get ready for church, and I'm a coffee hour hostess, so I'll be back much later.

Take care, y'all.

529 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:05:28am

Sorry ~ phone call

BBL

530 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:06:27am

re: #517 realwest

Yes it will. The nations are no longer 'protected' from major mistakes as they are given over to total humanistic power. Let the arrogant prove they can run [or not] the nations of the world. There is an hour glass flowing its remainder of sand that cannot be retipped.

531 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:07:00am

re: #505 galloping granny

REalwest, I don't know who this so-called "security specialist" is (not Geek Squad was it?) but he recommended that crap to you to MAKE $$$$$$. The more stuff that you pile on in the way of "security" the more potential you have for conflicts between all the various pieces of software. They hog resources and nothing runs correctly. And YOU end up with a dead machine while the "expert" walks away whistling Dixie with lots of extra bucks in his pocket.

Spyware - Get Spybot Search and Destroy. It is free (so the expert gets no commission.) It is the single best spyware program on the market today and has been for about a decade. Spyware Doctor is a piece of utter crap. Take it off your machine. If you feel "inadequately" protected then get the AdAware free version.

You will find AVG here: [Link: free.grisoft.com...]
That page is to the free version, but there is a version you can pay for if it will make you feel like you are getting better protection if you pay.

You do not need anything else except perhaps a fire wall, but Windows has one built in. (Not the best but not complicated and I suspect you are not surfing porn sites.)

Bothy Spybot and AVG are made freely available to the "little guy" public as a good deed, not because they are of lower quality or less than adequate.

I would add Zone Alarm as a firewall. The built in Windows one only blocks part of traffic. ZA is a good one, and free to boot!

532 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:07:25am

re: #507 realwest

Oh geez, I sure hope and will pray that all goes well for her and for you my friend.

Thank you

533 Midwestprof  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:07:34am

re: #324 christheprofessor

Morning Chris. Long time, no see. Been a long, hectic semester for me. Haven't had time to do much posting, just browsing. Speaking of moms, I had better call mine today. She's 82 and they just got dumped on in Minnesota with an April snowstorm.

534 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:08:10am

re: #491 haakondahl

Lemmy rocks....love Hawkwind

535 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:08:10am

The thing about me and learning is that I need to read it on paper. I like to highlight, make comments/questions in the margins, and I like to tote the book around with me. However, learning about computer stuff is not doable. The XP for Dummies was as useful as tits on a boar but there's not even a book on Vista. The same situation holds true for the blog thingy. Do I read it on the screen and take notes/print it out?

536 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:09:14am

re: #505 galloping granny Uh, the Norton Internet thing was recommended by a security expert at Earthlink - he made no money off of it as I bought it at BB.
And Spyware Doctor was recommended to me by another LGFer out here who says her speciality is computer security - it was free and she obviously received no money for that either. Windows firewall is a fucking joke; Norton's is quite good.
I haven't had an infection in my machine for over the 8 months or so that I've had both Norton and SpywareDoctor.
But again, thank you for your concerns.

537 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:09:43am

re: #513 haakondahl

Remember ALT+F4. It will shut down a misbehaving window without activating the "OnWindowClose()" event (or whatever it's called). It's the difference between asking an assailant to leave and shooting him between the eyes.

Be careful where you use ALT+F4. It *will* shut down anything you tell it to--the window with the blue title bar is toast.

Interesting....thanks. I didn't know that one. Another thing it was doing, while I was running ad aware, I wasn't even touching the keyboard, and new IE windows would open every so often. Was crazy. I'm glad it wasn't more issues, I still need to back up some movies and music I have on the C drive.

538 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:10:00am

carter defends his meeting with hamas:

[Link: afp.google.com...]

he is the "patron saint of islamofascism" and a man too despicable for words. this man would have met with hitler to try and find common ground with him.

am i a bad person for wishing he would die?

539 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:10:35am

re: #531 bikermailman

I would add Zone Alarm as a firewall. The built in Windows one only blocks part of traffic. ZA is a good one, and free to boot!

I like ZoneAlarm, though I prefer the paid version. I think for many people though, it really is not necessary if you have Spybot and you've used the Immunize feature and keep it uptodate. Not to mention that a stand alone firewall will conflict with the Windows version if you do not know how to disable the Windows version. Not pretty for your average user.

And again, the more crap you pile on in the name of "security" the less real security you get.

540 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:10:48am

re: #516 gettinby

Also, I think we need to come up with a pretty solid prayer that President Bush and Condi Rice, et al, find their brains and good sense.

I've been looking for a good word or two to describe what they are doing to Israel...can only come up with something along the lines of "....f*cked up..."

It seems to me they are committing a very dangerous and stupid error - they AREN'T LISTENING to what is right and just.

Zechariah 12:1The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it

.

541 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:10:52am

re: #526 Mich-again

No way is my memory that good!

IMDB?

542 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:11:09am

re: #517 realwest

Um, Babba - don't want to dispute "the word" you got, but America is NOT going to betray Israel's friendship. Not Ever.

RealWest (Long time no see!)
While I would like to think that folks like you and I would never do such a thing, it seems pretty apparent to me that America is doing exactly that, if measured by the actions of our perfidious State Department. And how else would we measure it? Oh, they have different labels for it, and many of them really think that they are doing the right thing, but these are people who have grown up with a fairly Marxist education, and all the baggage that usually comes with it.
Even without anti-semitism, these people have been mired in the class warfare "Social Justice" claptrap for so long that they see America as a giant apology, and Israel the act of contrition.

543 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:11:39am

re: #509 Lucius Septimius Good morning Lucius! Not only is Charles an Aries, but LeePro's birthday was yesterday and Killian Bundy, WriterMom and I all share the same birthday which was Friday, April 11th!
ARIES RULE!
lol!
How are you doing my friend?

544 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:12:03am

re: #519 BabbaZee

It is happening RIGHT NOW

And it's happened before -- not in huge dramatic ways, but through little compromises, brief moments where they cater to poll-conjured "public opinion" or attempt to calm dictators by engaging in "constructive dialogue." Lack of will, worsened by the poisonous voices of those who side with our enemies.

It's the path of Saul.

I see where Dhimmi Carter now saws he's been talking to Hamas for years.

545 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:12:06am

re: #538 _RememberTonyC

carter defends his meeting with hamas:

[Link: afp.google.com...]

he is the "patron saint of islamofascism" and a man too despicable for words. this man would have met with hitler to try and find common ground with him.

am i a bad person for wishing he would die?

I wish he would see the error of his ways and then shout if from the rooftops. Short of that, I just wish he would shut the fuck up.

546 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:12:56am
However, the 83-year-old Carter pointed out during the ABC interview that he was not travelling in any official capacity.

"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he said. "I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years."

Carter said his most recent talks came after the group's win in January 2006 elections. At that time, he said Hamas expressed willingness to declare a ceasefire in Gaza and the West Bank and allow Abbas to negotiate on behalf of all Palestinians.

"I intend to find out if these are their prevailing thoughts now," he said.

unbelievable!

547 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:13:18am

re: #534 hayseed

Lemmy rocks....love Hawkwind

Silver Machi-i-i-i-i-ine

548 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:13:35am

re: #536 realwest

Uh, the Norton Internet thing was recommended by a security expert at Earthlink - he made no money off of it as I bought it at BB.
And Spyware Doctor was recommended to me by another LGFer out here who says her speciality is computer security - it was free and she obviously received no money for that either. Windows firewall is a fucking joke; Norton's is quite good.
I haven't had an infection in my machine for over the 8 months or so that I've had both Norton and SpywareDoctor.
But again, thank you for your concerns.

Oh yes he did make money off it realwest. Earthlink gets commission for every copy they sell as does Best Buy/Geek Squad and anyone else anywhere that is recommending Norton. And it is fairly hefty.

I have NEVER had an infection of any kind in any of my machines.

I will not say what I really feel at this point. Do as you please.

549 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:13:39am

re: #535 MandyManners

The thing about me and learning is that I need to read it on paper. I like to highlight, make comments/questions in the margins, and I like to tote the book around with me. However, learning about computer stuff is not doable. The XP for Dummies was as useful as tits on a boar but there's not even a book on Vista. The same situation holds true for the blog thingy. Do I read it on the screen and take notes/print it out?

There are books on Vista. So far the ones I've got are about as useful as tits on a boar.

I hadn't had to do much technical learning until I got this new one with Vista and it might as well all be written in Martian. It has become so complicated that the low-tech people like me are just flying blind. I don't need it to do much beyond blogs and eBay but already it won't play DVDs and I don't have the time to spend hours and hours trying to work out solutions and all the time flying blind.

550 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:15:27am

re: #520 goddessoftheclassroom Didja see my #498?

551 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:15:46am
re: #517 realwest
IsraelNN.com) Nearly 60% of Israelis say the Israeli government is secretly negotiating the division of Jerusalem with the Palestinian Authority - despite government attempts to blur the existence of such talks

.Condi Rice is the one talking. [Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

552 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:15:59am

re: #546 _RememberTonyC

However, the 83-year-old Carter pointed out during the ABC interview that he was not travelling in any official capacity.
"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he said. "I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years."

Carter said his most recent talks came after the group's win in January 2006 elections. At that time, he said Hamas expressed willingness to declare a ceasefire in Gaza and the West Bank and allow Abbas to negotiate on behalf of all Palestinians.

"I intend to find out if these are their prevailing thoughts now," he said.
********

I reckon he didn't hear about how Hamas dispatched their opponents from tall buildings.

553 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:16:12am

#545 Mandy ...

Mee too, but by meeting with hamas, he is making it easier for our so called allies to also start embracing hamas. After all, if a former US President/Nobel laureate meets with hamas, how bad could they be?

This is the real danger of this meeting ... a former US president is not only not ostracizing hamas, he is actually EMBRACING the group. And the ripple effect of this meeting is frightening.

554 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:17:47am

re: #549 infidelia

There are books on Vista. So far the ones I've got are about as useful as tits on a boar.

I hadn't had to do much technical learning until I got this new one with Vista and it might as well all be written in Martian. It has become so complicated that the low-tech people like me are just flying blind. I don't need it to do much beyond blogs and eBay but already it won't play DVDs and I don't have the time to spend hours and hours trying to work out solutions and all the time flying blind.

I'm just trying to learn more about the wordprocessing angles. I'm not into playing DVD's and the like. But, Vista has a lot of stuff about media in it.

555 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:17:48am

re: #543 realwest

Good morning Lucius! Not only is Charles an Aries, but LeePro's birthday was yesterday and Killian Bundy, WriterMom and I all share the same birthday which was Friday, April 11th!
ARIES RULE!
lol!
How are you doing my friend?

Well happy belated b-day to you and the rest of that August crew! (though sounds like ya'll were 4th of July-weekend babies)

So many Aries -- no wonder there's so much head-butting going on!

I'm ok -- still trying to get out from under work. I've got to write evaluations for a bunch of folk next week. But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

556 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:18:00am

#552 Mandy ... carter thinks they fell off the buildings by accident. carter is a cancer ...

557 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:18:44am

re: #516 gettinby

Also, I think we need to come up with a pretty solid prayer that President Bush and Condi Rice, et al, find their brains and good sense.

I've been looking for a good word or two to describe what they are doing to Israel...can only come up with something along the lines of "....f*cked up..."

It seems to me they are committing a very dangerous and stupid error - they AREN'T LISTENING to what is right and just.

Make that a STRONGLY-WORDED prayer.

/maybe that would be something they would comprehend.
//not holding my breath.

558 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:18:48am

re: #552 MandyManners

However, the 83-year-old Carter pointed out during the ABC interview that he was not travelling in any official capacity.
"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he said. "I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years."

Carter said his most recent talks came after the group's win in January 2006 elections. At that time, he said Hamas expressed willingness to declare a ceasefire in Gaza and the West Bank and allow Abbas to negotiate on behalf of all Palestinians.

"I intend to find out if these are their prevailing thoughts now," he said.
********

I reckon he didn't hear about how Hamas dispatched their opponents from tall buildings.

He is a mouth breathing idiot and a wicked man.

559 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:18:55am

re: #525 infidelia Huh, that's weirod, I've used the Geek Squad three times, once in NYC and twice down here (once to install, set up and data transfer from the old puter to this one) and once on a trouble call and never found them lacking in knowledge, nor rude or anything but extremely polite - expensive yes, but none of the other things you've mentioned.
And yes, everything they did worked out just fine.

560 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:18:57am

As long as we are in a praying mood :)

LGF Military List:

Grumpy old codger - Tentatively scheduled for third tour in November.

6pat6 - Nephew in the Navy;
Niece who lost her husband to an IED in Iraq in '05
-
Irish Rose - son serving in the Marines

Van Helsing - son just completed tour in Iraq

Maximus - son reports in August

American Soldier - son serving in Israel

The Parson - son serving in Washington State

Vegas Rick - nephew serving aboard USS Miami

docremulac - son: two combat tours, United States Marines. Spearheaded the second invasion of Fallujah. His platoon had a very heavy casualty rate. 5 brave men lost

Ma Sands: nephew in the Marines
grandbaby's Grandpa is a Colonel in the Air Force

caliredst8er - nephew is a Marine and just recently returned from his first tour in Iraq. He has already volunteered to return for another tour.

Pvt Bin Jammin - Navy Corpsman nephew currently in Iraq,
Great nephew serving with the Marines.

Jaunte - oldest daughter and son-in-law are Airforce, at Holloman AFB in New Mexico. Middle daughter is Army, at Ft. Lewis, Washington.

Nyexpat - Nephew, AF Mechanic, was deployed to Kuwait in February.

flynmudd- son is currently serving on the USS Ramage in Norfolk. He will be deploying to the ME for the second time late summer or early fall.

Render - step-son is a Marine, 2001-2004.

Mama Winger - son scheduled for second deployment to Iraq in January ‘09.

Taxfreekiller - daughter serving at Sandia National Lab, working on projects to secure nuclear weapons within former Soviet states.


Capitalist Tool - 2 cousins serving : #1- Deployed to Afghanistan with 45th Infantry, now on tour in Iraq
#2- Several deployments w/ Navy to Persian Gulf.

Ping jockey - 1.) BiLs kid US Navy Seal
2.) Wifes friends son USMC
3.) Neigbhors son USMC
4.) Guy I worked with US Navy Seal sniper.


Guitardalek - SGT, USA - just got back from Iraq in November

Tblot - son just got back from Iraq, in the air force

CyanSnowHawk -
Brother-in-Law just back from deployment.
Marine Major friend currently deployed somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
Navy Medic friend recently returned from Iraq.

Lobo91 - Army Reserve Master Sergeant in a unit that conducts training for the staffs of Guard/Reserve battalions and brigades prior to their deployment overseas.

Bigmacdaddy - not sure what branch - currently serving in Afghanistan.

bikermailman
cousin's new husband who got deployed to Iraq in January.

Any changes or additions - please shout it out!

561 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:20:08am

re: #540 storagemanager

Amen.

562 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:20:13am

re: #553 _RememberTonyC

#545 Mandy ...

Mee too, but by meeting with hamas, he is making it easier for our so called allies to also start embracing hamas. After all, if a former US President/Nobel laureate meets with hamas, how bad could they be?

This is the real danger of this meeting ... a former US president is not only not ostracizing hamas, he is actually EMBRACING the group. And the ripple effect of this meeting is frightening.

Other than Assad and his ilk, has any "leader" met with them?

563 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:20:20am

re: #556 _RememberTonyC

#552 Mandy ... carter thinks they fell off the buildings by accident. carter is a cancer ...

Back in the day, I thought Carter was a better ex-President than a President. Now, I'm not so sure. Tough call.

564 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:20:59am

re: #546 _RememberTonyC

Carter is going as their friend.

565 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:21:08am

#560 MamaWinger ... Thanks for reminding me of all of the "Lizard Nation" families who are defending the freedom of all of us! May God bless all of you and your amazing families. I (we) can never repay you!

566 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:21:25am

re: #556 _RememberTonyC

#552 Mandy ... carter thinks they fell off the buildings by accident. carter is a cancer ...

Those buildings must not've been built by Habitat for Humanity.

BTW, has HfH built in Gaza? If not, why not?

567 selpaw  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:22:13am

re: #443 BabbaZee

{Babba}

Condi does not act on her own. While Condi indeed works in State she works for the President of the United States. Her agenda can be easily stopped by her boss. We see it has not.

Condi Rice does not have the authority to act on her own even though she spews her own brand of BS sprinkled with a State Department edge.

As in recent history like Albright and Clinton had a special relationship so does Rice and Bush. Simple as that.

Holding back military resupply is an old State Department tactic, used best by Henry Kissinger in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, to ensure that Israel would be "more flexible" when she was forced into post-war negotiations. I remember hearing that Kissinger said: 'Let Israel bleed a little. She’ll give up more in negotiations if she bleeds a little.' Kissinger’s deliberate delay of resupplying Israel until the eighth day of the war led to many needless deaths and endangered Israel severely.

And unless the commander and chief to whom Kissinger worked was brain dead, Kissinger could not in any shape way or form act of his own volition.

BTW: Threats of withholding armaments etc., to Israel as a means to keep her in line is nothing new however the agenda of this current administration post 9-11 War on Terror of bankrupt whitewash of the Palestinians at the cost of Israel , knowing what we know and they know simply does not add up or make a bit of sense whatsoever. History will regard this as nothing less than REWARD FOR TERROR for all the very worst reasons.

I can furnish hundreds of links back to comments of our President in reference to Condi Rice speaking in one voice with her boss and visa versa.


you wrote in #471

GWB &Condi: ever so discreetly throwing Israel under the bus since 2004

It began way before that. Bush pledged on his first day of office to sign the embassy act and for that he axed it 8 times.........in a message to the world that Jerusalem is not the undivided capital of Israel!

to the glee of

Prince Saud Al-Faisal, the Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia, praised the decision of US President George W. Bush to once again delay the implementation of the decision of the US government to move its embassy to Jerusalem.

"The embassy's movement is a recognition of Israeli fait accompli which is not wanted by anyone. Consequently, returning the U.S. policy to the previous position is welcomed," Al-Faisal to the Saudi news agency.

Now Bush feels he need not go to the Wall on his second visit, so for all the doubters, that was the final nail if in fact one dares admit the truth. THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL


At the height of the intifada of slaughter President Bush began his push for Palestinian statehood, followed by the formation of the US led quartet for peace made up of three arch enemies of Israel. From that moment on as a gesture of reward for terror the extreme whitewash never stopped not for one moment. Tell me, how does this make the least amount of sense, post 9-11, war on terror!?

Bush and Condi hit pay dirt with their puppet, the idiot self-serving wimp Olmert. They could not have asked for more. Before President Bush left Israel he urged: Take care of Olmert. LOL, talk about tipping ones hand.......

568 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:22:15am

re: #565 _RememberTonyC

#560 MamaWinger ... Thanks for reminding me of all of the "Lizard Nation" families who are defending the freedom of all of us! May God bless all of you and your amazing families. I (we) can never repay you!

There are quite a number of lizards and extended lizards serving, aren't there ? the best of the best - I love them all.

569 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:22:30am

re: #562 Mandy ...

re: #553 _RememberTonyC

#545 Mandy ...

Mee too, but by meeting with hamas, he is making it easier for our so called allies to also start embracing hamas. After all, if a former US President/Nobel laureate meets with hamas, how bad could they be?

This is the real danger of this meeting ... a former US president is not only not ostracizing hamas, he is actually EMBRACING the group. And the ripple effect of this meeting is frightening.

Other than Assad and his ilk, has any "leader" met with them?
============
Not YET ... but after this carter meeting, I expect that to change.

570 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:22:31am

re: #566 MandyManners

Those buildings must not've been built by Habitat for Humanity.

BTW, has HfH built in Gaza? If not, why not?

Because the eviiiile Zionist Oppressors are stopping them from it, of course!

571 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:22:45am

Ahhhhhhhh... Iowahawk!

http:iowahawk.typepad.com/

572 wee fury  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:23:08am

The title "Habitat for Humanity" reminds me of a zoo.

573 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:23:18am

re: #558 Lucius Septimius

He is a mouth breathing idiot and a wicked man.

I sometimes hesitate to label others evil 'cause I cannot see into their hearts but, since the only thing we have by which to judge people is their actions, I agree.

574 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:23:33am

re: #572 wee fury

The title "Habitat for Humanity" reminds me of a zoo.

or a little gerbil cage

575 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:23:39am
There was that "3 a.m." TV ad, in which Clinton questioned Obama's personal mettle. "That upset me," Richardson said.

There were some ham-fisted phone calls from Clinton backers, who questioned Richardson's honor and suggested that the governor, who served in President Clinton's Cabinet, owed Hillary Clinton his support. "That really ticked me off," Richardson said.

Still, even as he moved from Clinton toward Obama -- "the pursuit was pretty relentless on both sides" -- Richardson wrestled with the question of loyalty. After 14 years in Congress and a measure of fame as an international troubleshooter, Richardson was named Clinton's U.N. ambassador, then Energy secretary: "two important appointments," Richardson said.

He finally concluded that he had settled his debt to the former president: He had worked for Clinton's election in 1992, helped pass the North American Free Trade Agreement as part of his administration, stood by him during the Monica S. Lewinsky sex scandal, and rounded up votes to fight impeachment.

"I was loyal," Richardson said during an extended conversation over breakfast this week at the governor's mansion in Santa Fe. "But I don't think that loyalty is transferable to his wife. . . . You don't transfer loyalty to a dynasty."

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

576 gettinby  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:23:44am

REALWEST!

I can't find the post you did ^^^ upthread.

Did you say you were looking into joining the Israeli Army?

/adding to my list of really cool things about realwest.

:)

I'm outta here for awhile. Laundry, dusting, vacuuming, brushing doggies, yada yada ... and, oh yeah, spend a few minutessome time with Mr. GBy.

Have a great day everyone!

577 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:24:30am

re: #576 gettinby

Have a great day everyone!

You too - see you later !

578 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:24:44am

re: #566 MandyManners

Those buildings must not've been built by Habitat for Humanity.

BTW, has HfH built in Gaza? If not, why not?

Because the eviiiile Zionist Oppressors are stopping them from it, of course!
========
gaza has a sister organization ... they call it Habitat for Inhumanity. They don't put up buildings, they blow them up.

579 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:25:09am

re: #573 MandyManners

I sometimes hesitate to label others evil 'cause I cannot see into their hearts but, since the only thing we have by which to judge people is their actions, I agree.

I've had the opportunity to watch the man operate up close. He is a very bad man.

580 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:25:11am

re: #574 mama winger

Mama, now this is going to devolve into a Richard Gere thread.

581 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:25:30am

re: #571 infidelia

Ahhhhhhhh... Iowahawk!

http:iowahawk.typepad.com/

!@?#@! told you I was a total squib.

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

582 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:25:32am

re: #569 _RememberTonyC

re: #562 Mandy ...

re: #553 _RememberTonyC

#545 Mandy ...

Mee too, but by meeting with hamas, he is making it easier for our so called allies to also start embracing hamas. After all, if a former US President/Nobel laureate meets with hamas, how bad could they be?

This is the real danger of this meeting ... a former US president is not only not ostracizing hamas, he is actually EMBRACING the group. And the ripple effect of this meeting is frightening.

Other than Assad and his ilk, has any "leader" met with them?
============
Not YET ... but after this carter meeting, I expect that to change.

Floodgates, eh?

583 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:25:32am

re: #580 BulgarWheat

Mama, now this is going to devolve into a Richard Gere thread.

LOL :)

584 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:26:46am

re: #570 bikermailman

Because the eviiiile Zionist Oppressors are stopping them from it, of course!

I think he and the board of HfH know it would be dangerous on the part of Hamas, and that the buildings would not be appreciated.

585 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:26:52am

re: #568 MamaWinger ...

You are so right! I have two wishes for you: safety for your son and a Cubbies return to the World Series a mere 100 years after their last WS title! Any team can have a bad century :) As a Red Sox fan, I can truly relate.

586 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:27:56am

re: #574 mama winger

or a little gerbil cage

HA!

587 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:27:57am

re: #580 BulgarWheat

Mama, now this is going to devolve into a Richard Gere thread.

Brain bleach, please...

588 infidelia  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:28:01am

re: #585 _RememberTonyC

re: #568 MamaWinger ...

You are so right! I have two wishes for you: safety for your son and a Cubbies return to the World Series a mere 100 years after their last WS title! Any team can have a bad century :) As a Red Sox fan, I can truly relate.

And now that they're in the basement, will they please stop digging?

589 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:28:35am

re: #578 _RememberTonyC

re: #566 MandyManners

Those buildings must not've been built by Habitat for Humanity.

BTW, has HfH built in Gaza? If not, why not?

Because the eviiiile Zionist Oppressors are stopping them from it, of course!
========
gaza has a sister organization ... they call it Habitat for Inhumanity. They don't put up buildings, they blow them up.

Good one!

590 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:28:36am

re: #542 haakondahl Hi ya Hawk! It's really good to see you again! I hope you're doing well!
And while I haven't trusted the State Department since Ike was President, please remember that POLICY at State is set by President Bush (or whomever is POTUS) and while the life long, career civil servants - many of whom are anti-Semitic - are the ones who really implement policies, it's still the President who sets the policies.
And I really don't think President Bush will sell out Israel - her basic security and rights. And in spite of Photo Ops like Annapolis, I really don't see Bush selling Israel down the drain, though it WOULD HELP A LOT if Israel would get a leader who would, ya know, LEAD!
We have NOTHING to gain by selling out our ally of over 50 years (and currently the only functioning democracy in the Middle East) while at the same time trying to get a functioning democracy going in another Middle Eastern country, Iraq.
That we don't necessarily agree with everything Israel does, or have disputes with Israel, doesn't mean we'd let Israel die. We Won't Do That.

591 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:28:42am

re: #584 MandyManners

I think he and the board of HfH know it would be dangerous on the part of Hamas, and that the buildings would not be appreciated.

As clueless as the man is, I'm not sure he does know it.

592 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:28:48am

re: #587 bikermailman

I guess I should be ashamed of myself.....

heh!

593 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:29:00am

re: #579 Lucius Septimius

I've had the opportunity to watch the man operate up close. He is a very bad man.

How so?

594 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:29:46am

re: #590 realwest

Obama will change that.

/seriously, is probably going to be investing in Palestine Bonds in a decade...

595 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:29:58am

re: #591 bikermailman

As clueless as the man is, I'm not sure he does know it.

Well, the board knows.

596 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:30:02am

re: #573 MandyManners

I sometimes hesitate to label others evil 'cause I cannot see into their hearts but, since the only thing we have by which to judge people is their actions, I agree.

Matthew 15:18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.15:19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies

597 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:30:17am

re: #560 mama winger
{mama} you know I love ya, and you know I'm fully behind the troops, but if we keep adding categories and names, that list is gonna take up an entire page or more out here!
Why not just "LGFer's who are serving or have family serving in the United States Military"?

598 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:30:36am

re: #593 MandyManners

Even nature knows:-)

599 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:31:07am

so long Lizard Nation ... time to do some chores ... have a good one!

600 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:32:12am

re: #597 realwest

Why not just "LGFer's who are serving or have family serving in the United States Military"?

I think it's nice to know who they are and who they are connected to. I'm not worried about length. It's the least I can do, to keep them in our thoughts and prayers. Just doing my part :)

601 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:32:20am

re: #586 MandyManners

Without clicking that's the Gerbil song!

602 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:32:51am

re: #572 wee fury

The title "Habitat for Humanity" reminds me of a zoo.

I worked on some habitat houses....the ladies allways made a great lunch

603 BignJames  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:33:08am

re: #586 MandyManners

degenerate

/

604 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:33:18am

re: #596 storagemanager

Matthew 15:18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.15:19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies

But, aren't we commanded to not judge others?

Wait a minute. We must make judgments of others or else we'd get killed.

605 Bobblehead  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:33:54am

A good snapshot, so to speak, of the mindset of the average U.K citizen.

606 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #598 Roger

Even nature knows:-)

I'm reminded of the LOTR but, in the reverse.

607 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:06am

re: #601 Roger

Without clicking that's the Gerbil song!

I've become waaaaaaaaaay too predictable!

608 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:32am

re: #604 MandyManners

But, aren't we commanded to not judge others?

Wait a minute. We must make judgments of others or else we'd get killed.


I take that to mean..don't judge those seeking forgiveness.

609 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:40am

re: #576 gettinby Yeah, during the '73 War, but the Israeli embassy (after they got over their shock at a goyim wanting to join the IDF) kindly told me that if I did I'd lose my American Citizenship unless I got a waiver from the State Department. By the time the State Department got around to answering me ( I LOVE Israel, but I am an AMERICAN) the Israeli's had finished kicking the crap out of the Arab Nations!

610 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:55am

re: #603 BignJames

degenerate

/

I've never been able to look at him the same way since I joined LGF. LGF: destroyer of day-dreams.

611 Roger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:57am

re: #607 MandyManners

Nah! It just had to be; so timely:-)

612 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:35:57am

re: #604 MandyManners

aren't we commanded to not judge others?

We do not judge others in the sense that we make the determination for their eternal soul. But we have a perfect right to evaluate people's words and actions, and react accordingly.

613 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:36:57am

re: #610 MandyManners

Did you see his movie, Pretty Gerbil?

/slaps own hand this time.

614 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:37:30am

re: #607 MandyManners

I've become waaaaaaaaaay too predictable!

I just love Bob and Tom... Part of my morning five days a week, followed by Glenn Beck.

615 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:37:41am

re: #608 storagemanager

I take that to mean..don't judge those seeking forgiveness.

From memory: Judge ye not lest ye be judged. For with whatever measurement ye mete, so it will measured to you.

But, isn't there a verse in one of the Peters that speaks of a just judgment?

616 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:38:12am

re: #611 Roger

It's one link I'll not delete from my bookmarks.

617 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:38:58am

re: #609 realwest

Yeah, during the '73 War, but the Israeli embassy (after they got over their shock at a goyim wanting to join the IDF) kindly told me that if I did I'd lose my American Citizenship unless I got a waiver from the State Department. By the time the State Department got around to answering me ( I LOVE Israel, but I am an AMERICAN) the Israeli's had finished kicking the crap out of the Arab Nations!

I knew a few guys who called the Israeli Embassy in 73. Most were rebuffed, but one of my friends was Just out of the US Air Force. With Israeli air loses mounting in the early hours and days of the war, they did take his name and tell him to stay near the phone.

618 selpaw  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:39:10am

re: #569 _RememberTonyC

This is the real danger of this meeting ... a former US president is not only not ostracizing hamas, he is actually EMBRACING the group. And the ripple effect of this meeting is frightening.

Sorry to say the ripple effect began long before. We can not afford to be naive
the Hamas bad guy and Abbas (man of courage and peace) good guy BS is just an act!

They are just the same.


New Abbas / Fatah Poster Shows Israel As Palestine, Next To Rifle And Arafat
619 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:39:21am

Re: Carter:

"It's very important that at least someone meet with the Hamas leaders to express their views, to ascertain what flexibility they have, to try to induce them to stop all attacks against innocent civilians in Israel and to cooperate with the Fatah as a group that unites the Palestinians," Carter told ABC news.

Fatuous ass!

620 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:39:22am

re: #615 MandyManners

IMO History is the ultimate judge...

621 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:39:58am

re: #619 godfrey

Re: Carter:

Fatuous ass!

I first read that as fabulous ass.

622 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:40:04am

In the State Department Press Briefing Thursday, there are some details about direct communications between the Assistant Secretary of State David Welch and Jimmy Carter. They had a 30 minute long conversation about his upcoming trip to Syria.

So Carter asked for this briefing?

Yes, yeah. And it wasn’t about Syria or Hamas. It was about travel to the region in general.

So it was deemed important enough that Welch should take 30 minutes of his time during a trip to the Middle East while he’s with the Secretary going back and forth between the Israelis and the Palestinians, it was important enough to do it then, even though the trip was not supposed to happen until this month?...

-- was he asking you whether it would be helpful or not?

Look, I am -- I’ve gone as far as I'm going to go in describing the conversation, you know, out of deference to the former President. He can -- if he chooses himself to describe in greater detail the conversation, then, obviously, will -- he will. I am not going to do that for him.

But on ABC's This Week, Carter says this..

Why are you doing it anyway?

CARTER: Well, the State Department has not advised me against a meeting. I haven't heard that. But I've been in Africa and here in Nepal. They may have.

Carter is lying through his crooked baked bean teeth.

623 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:40:11am

re: #612 mama winger

We do not judge others in the sense that we make the determination for their eternal soul. But we have a perfect right to evaluate people's words and actions, and react accordingly.

That's what I was trying to say! Thank you.

624 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:40:36am

re: #613 BulgarWheat

Did you see his movie, Pretty Gerbil?

/slaps own hand this time.

Beat me to the *whack*.

625 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:40:43am

I have ABC on right now - Carter is on

626 BulgarWheat  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:41:06am

re: #624 MandyManners

shoot, I saw it comin' a mile away.

627 mama winger  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:41:15am

re: #623 MandyManners

You are welcome :)

628 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:41:18am

re: #620 laZardo

IMO History is the ultimate judge...

who's version of history?

/jus askin

629 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:41:38am

re: #614 bikermailman

I just love Bob and Tom... Part of my morning five days a week, followed by Glenn Beck.

I can't handle rock jocks. I just wanna' listen to music. I have to deal with people's inanity throughout the day.

630 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:42:35am
Yusuf Estes was a Christian priest who entered Islam and has since worked to promote it. He has studied and spread the message of Islam all over the US and in many foreign countries. He is currently a Muslim chaplain for federal Institutions and prisons. He is also a Muslim delegate to the UN Interfaith conference for religious leaders.

GET THIS..........

He said many people were not embracing Islam not because of the lack of knowledge but because they don’t care. Asked whether he would invite US President George W. Bush to Islam, he said: “We pray to God that He may guide him to Islam. Islam gives us the right direction and it removes our blindness about the mystery of this universe. I am very happy to be a Muslim and part of the 1.5 billion-strong world of Islam,” he said.

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

631 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:42:53am

re: #617 Nevergiveup Well I went to the Israeli consulate in NYC in person- I swear there was a line around the block and four hours later, when I finally got to someone to talk too (I remember they had like six desks set up in the lobby!) they told me about that loss of citizenship thing. I can't believe that they didn't tell your friend that (unless he was dual citizenship, US and Israel) no that he would forgoe his American Citizenship if he didn't have dual citizenship.

632 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:43:09am

re: #628 hayseed

The winners' version. Winner may vary from region to region, of course.

633 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:43:11am
634 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:43:19am

re: #620 laZardo

IMO History is the ultimate judge...

For us humans' judgement, it's a good indicator.

635 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:44:06am

Anyhoo, tomorrow begins my final week of the semester here, so I'm gonna rest up. G'night all!

636 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:44:52am

re: #631 realwest

Well I went to the Israeli consulate in NYC in person- I swear there was a line around the block and four hours later, when I finally got to someone to talk too (I remember they had like six desks set up in the lobby!) they told me about that loss of citizenship thing. I can't believe that they didn't tell your friend that (unless he was dual citizenship, US and Israel) no that he would forgoe his American Citizenship if he didn't have dual citizenship.

Being an experienced fighter pilot, certain international niceties are often overlooked in emergency situations.

637 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:44:56am

BBIAM!

638 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:45:26am

re: #593 MandyManners

How so?

Being careful not to divulge too much, but I've seen him manipulate decent people with money, favors, access, etc. He pulls them into his web of corruption, using his ostensible commitment to "human rights" and "volunteerism" to lure people into believing him to be a good man. Then they find themselves feeling honor bound to support his extreme hatred of Israel because he's been so supportive of them, and since the "know" he's a good guy. He plays on people's greed and vanity. He is a cynical opportunist who seems to take pleasure in gathering people into his orbit only to make them unwitting or unwilling agents of his agenda.

Lately, thank God, some folks (like Ken Stein and Deborah Lipstadt) have figured it out and exposed him for what he is, but his coterie is full of young wide-eyed idealists who he's enlisted into his nefarious cause with easy money and favors.

639 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:45:37am

re: #630 storagemanager

I am very happy to be a Muslim and part of the 1.5 billion-strong world of Islam

Bingo. This gives the lie to his "faith." He's not really interested in doctrine and truth. What he wants is to win, to subjugate, and be part of Dominion.

*spit*

640 sonoffar  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:45:58am

Don't do birthdays myself, but I hope you have a bunch more.

641 mjazzguitar  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:46:10am

re: #628 hayseed

who's version of history?

/jus askin


God's?

642 laZardo  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:46:45am

re: #634 MandyManners

Specially since the moonbats want to make sure history is written their way.

/actually heads off now. Nighty!

643 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:47:43am
644 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:48:41am

re: #643 MandyManners

Group photograph of Carter and Hamas to be released.

I thought Muslims had an antipathy to PIGS!

645 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:48:53am

re: #635 laZardo

Anyhoo, tomorrow begins my final week of the semester here, so I'm gonna rest up. G'night all!

Study hard! Eat well! Get plenty of rest!

I know you'll make us proud of you!

646 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:49:25am

re: #643 MandyManners

Perfect. The sad thing is, That cartoon isn't satire. Its an accurate portrayal.

647 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:49:41am

re: #638 Lucius Septimius

Being careful not to divulge too much, but I've seen him manipulate decent people with money, favors, access, etc. He pulls them into his web of corruption, using his ostensible commitment to "human rights" and "volunteerism" to lure people into believing him to be a good man. Then they find themselves feeling honor bound to support his extreme hatred of Israel because he's been so supportive of them, and since the "know" he's a good guy. He plays on people's greed and vanity. He is a cynical opportunist who seems to take pleasure in gathering people into his orbit only to make them unwitting or unwilling agents of his agenda.

Lately, thank God, some folks (like Ken Stein and Deborah Lipstadt) have figured it out and exposed him for what he is, but his coterie is full of young wide-eyed idealists who he's enlisted into his nefarious cause with easy money and favors.

Another narcissist!

648 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:49:43am

Carter:

"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he said. "I've been meeting with Hamas Nazi leaders for years."

lol

649 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:50:37am

re: #644 Nevergiveup

I thought Muslims had an antipathy to PIGS!

They'd embrace pigs AND dogs if it meant victory.

650 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:51:07am

re: #625 mama winger

I have ABC on right now - Carter is on

Was Carter on, or just his spokesrat?

651 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:51:23am

re: #646 Mich-again

Perfect. The sad thing is, That cartoon isn't satire. Its an accurate portrayal.

Yep.

652 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:51:57am

re: #638 Lucius Septimius Hey Lucius - who is it you're talking about? Bush?!

653 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:52:12am

OK I'm back
whadiddeye miss?

654 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:52:45am

re: #647 MandyManners

Another narcissist!

And a particularly malignant one at that.

In a previous life, in another job, one of my "other duties as required" involved polishing the silver service for his luncheons.

655 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:52:50am

I'm watching the Beaver. He might get his tonsils out.

656 selpaw  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:52:51am

re: #633 ploome hineni

is there anything we can do to make Israel normal?

anything at all?

?

657 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:53:07am

re: #652 realwest

Hey Lucius - who is it you're talking about? Bush?!

Carter -- or were you funnin' me?

658 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:53:20am

re: #631 realwest

(unless he was dual citizenship, US and Israel) no that he would forgoe his American Citizenship if he didn't have dual citizenship.

I do not believe that there was such a thing as dual citizenship in 1973 - at least not once a child had turned 18. I had a child overseas about a year before that and the US Consulate was quite clear -

1. If your child was born in a US protectorate - Guam, American Samoa, and the Panama Canal Zone at the time, plus maybe a few others - then your child was an American citizen.

2. If your child was born on a US military base outside of the US protectorates - so Italy, Germany, Turkey, Japan and so on - then your child was a naturalized US Citizen by birth.

3. If your child was born to American parents outside of the US and either 1 or 2 then your child was a dual citizen. The requirement at the time was that when they turned 18 they would have to choose which one country where they would claim citizenship.

BTW, at the time immigrants to the US who chose to become citizens had to give up their citizenship elsewhere. I think it wasn't until sometime in the 80s that the rules changed.

659 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:53:21am

re: #523 bikermailman

As it is written, so we see it being done.
The whole trick to "endure" is
we must not loose heart.

660 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:53:38am

Carter:

"I intend to find out if these are their prevailing thoughts now," he said.

It's pitiful to see a grown man manipulated and abused so thoroughly.

And all the while he raises his eyes piously to Heaven, collects $$$ from the Saudis, and helps to weaken the defense of Israel itself.

Deluded, fatuous fool. Wormwood.

661 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:53:50am

re: #654 Lucius Septimius

And a particularly malignant one at that.

In a previous life, in another job, one of my "other duties as required" involved polishing the silver service for his luncheons.

Silver service?!

Did he get it from his 30 pieces?

662 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:55:22am

re: #657 Lucius Septimius Funnin y'all! HOW THE HELL ARE YOU! (sorry for the all caps but you didn't answer me before!)?

663 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:56:27am

re: #648 godfrey

Carter:

"I'm not going as a mediator or a negotiator," he said. "I've been meeting with Hamas Nazi leaders for years."


lol

If he isn't going as a mediator and isn't going as a negotiator and isn't going as a representative of the US government, does that then mean that he is going as a friend? Otherwise, what conceivable purpose would there be for him to meet repeatedly with Hamas leaders?

664 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:57:26am

re: #658 galloping granny Don't know when it changed, but the Israeli's made it VERY CLEAR to me that I would lose my American Citizenship if I enlisted in the Israeli Army (I was only 3 years outta Vietnam at the time and thought I could help out some; doing anything at all, from loading trucks to firing rifles, didn't matter much which).

665 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:57:52am

So the protests against the Chinese torch bearers aren't all that they seem. Figures. The Chinese are apparently trying to turn world opinion against Tibet, and aren't above having their own thugs and agent provocateurs involved.

666 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:58:28am

re: #663 galloping granny

He's a "man of peace," gg. "Citizen of the world." Oh, and "Face of Christ," presumably. As if Christ would ever castigate Jewish men and women for protecting their children! Addled, despicable, fatuous man!

667 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:58:33am
668 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:59:05am

re: #664 realwest

Don't know when it changed, but the Israeli's made it VERY CLEAR to me that I would lose my American Citizenship if I enlisted in the Israeli Army (I was only 3 years outta Vietnam at the time and thought I could help out some; doing anything at all, from loading trucks to firing rifles, didn't matter much which).

Yes, that would have been the case. There is a specific law against US citizens fighting for any country other than the US. But it has nothing to do with being a dual citizen. It is part of the terms of citizenship in the US.

669 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:59:15am

re: #663 galloping granny

If he isn't going as a mediator and isn't going as a negotiator and isn't going as a representative of the US government, does that then mean that he is going as a friend? Otherwise, what conceivable purpose would there be for him to meet repeatedly with Hamas leaders?

Well they need to proof read the pages from his next book and suggest changes that further delegitimatizes Israel in the eyes of the world.

670 selpaw  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 7:59:58am

re: #653 BabbaZee

whadiddeye miss?

A rant from the galled bladder. LOL!

671 bikermailman  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:00:03am

I went to watch Jimmah, forgot that we don't get This Week til 10 30. Been watching Russert with Carville, Shrum, and Matalin... Been spot on, actually.

672 Mich-again  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:00:08am

re: #668 galloping granny

Yes, that would have been the case. There is a specific law against US citizens fighting for any country other than the US. But it has nothing to do with being a dual citizen. It is part of the terms of citizenship in the US.

Does that go for terrorist enablers here in the US? It should.

673 selpaw  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:00:40am

re: #667 BabbaZee

"What You See Is What You Get"

If more could see it.........

674 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:00:51am

re: #662 realwest

Funnin y'all! HOW THE HELL ARE YOU! (sorry for the all caps but you didn't answer me before!)?

I did answer you up at 555. I'm fine -- making pancakes right now.

675 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:01:54am

re: #664 realwest

Don't know when it changed, but the Israeli's made it VERY CLEAR to me that I would lose my American Citizenship if I enlisted in the Israeli Army (I was only 3 years outta Vietnam at the time and thought I could help out some; doing anything at all, from loading trucks to firing rifles, didn't matter much which).

All of what you are saying is true. However it is kinda like paying taxes, you can put down whatever you like as long as you are not audited. The US Government was not going around looking to make trouble for American citizens fighting for the IDF. Kinda like: No Harm No Foul.

676 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:02:29am

re: #585 _RememberTonyC

re: #568 MamaWinger ...

You are so right! I have two wishes for you: safety for your son and a Cubbies return to the World Series a mere 100 years after their last WS title! Any team can have a bad century :) As a Red Sox fan, I can truly relate.

I will resist the temptation to take a shot at the Cubs.
Oh God, this hurts

677 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:02:44am

If Richard Nixon's mother had not prophesied to him about the Jewish people when he was little
America would have thrown Israel under the bus during the Yom Kippur war.

Golda Meir called Nixon in the dead of night
begged him for help
He said he heard his mothers voice speaking to him about Israel
and he knew it meant the end for him politically
but he knew his whole life led him to that one day and that one moment
that all of it was only for that moment
when he would be the one to get the call with the voice of his mother reading Genesis to him in his head
He did everything Golda asked

For that ONE ACT
he has a place in heaven

I saw story that in a documentary once ages ago
I will try to find a reference for it

678 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:03:11am

re: #665 lawhawk Good morning lawhawk!
Um, I don't get that (actually don't get this whole Dali Lama thing - I mean, he's a Marxist anyway so why do we care whether or not Tibet is run by the Communist Chinese or the Communist Dali Lama?)- why would China do that - put in their own thugs to protest the Olympics? I thought they wanted a peaceful and quiet Olympics?

679 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:03:15am

re: #672 Mich-again

Does that go for terrorist enablers here in the US? It should.

It was one of the charges they considered against Johnny Taliban - the kid they captured in Afghanistan. I assume they did not press this particular charge because AlQueda is not an army belonging to some other country and the law is pretty specific.

680 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:03:25am
The US State Department on Thursday advised [Carter] against meeting Hamas because Washington supports Abbas in new peace talks with Israel and backs the Jewish state's bid to isolate the Islamists knows from its Charter that Hamas a genocidal terrorist organization and is worthy of nothing but ridicule and destruction

Fixed.

681 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:04:02am

re: #670 selpaw

A rant from the galled bladder. LOL!

OOOooOOO
good one

682 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:04:10am
683 mjazzguitar  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:04:46am

I think Carter will come back and the headlines will read "Peace In Our Time".

684 storagemanager  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:05:05am

re: #677 BabbaZee

Please do..I like that story.

685 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:05:38am

re: #680 godfrey

What a load of BS
They could charge him with all sorts of crimes for meeting with Hamas if they sincerely wanted to stop him

it is authorized, his visit

Ladies and Gentlemen, it SHOWTIME!

686 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:05:50am

Obama's view of "small town" Pennsylvania.

687 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:05:56am

re: #684 storagemanager

When I find it I'll let ya know

688 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:06:18am

re: #682 ploome hineni

Bless my soul, ploome, I already have a pair. What I'd like are two perfect shirts from Charvet. Just because.

689 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:07:32am

re: #674 Lucius Septimius Ooops, sorry I didn't see that post! I'm glad you are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, just hope it isn't a train!
I used to HATE/LOVE end of semesters - hated all the final exams, grading them and giving out overall grades but LOVED getting a whole week off before my classes for the summer semester started! LOL!
Uh, what kind of pancakes? Are ya cooking up some bacon or sausage with that?!

690 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:07:53am

re: #685 BabbaZee

It's accepted. They're not so clumsy as to authorize. It's not a distinction without a difference: the former gives political cover.

691 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:08:04am

re: #686 EC Marm

Obama's view of "small town" Pennsylvania.

Spot on!

692 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:08:14am

re: #658 galloping granny

I do not believe that there was such a thing as dual citizenship in 1973 - at least not once a child had turned 18. I had a child overseas about a year before that and the US Consulate was quite clear -

1. If your child was born in a US protectorate - Guam, American Samoa, and the Panama Canal Zone at the time, plus maybe a few others - then your child was an American citizen.

2. If your child was born on a US military base outside of the US protectorates - so Italy, Germany, Turkey, Japan and so on - then your child was a naturalized US Citizen by birth.

3. If your child was born to American parents outside of the US and either 1 or 2 then your child was a dual citizen. The requirement at the time was that when they turned 18 they would have to choose which one country where they would claim citizenship.

BTW, at the time immigrants to the US who chose to become citizens had to give up their citizenship elsewhere. I think it wasn't until sometime in the 80s that the rules changed.

It is actually codified in law, any child born to parents who are both US citizens, born outside the USA, is a US citizen IIRC. A link was posted several weeks ago when the questions were flying about McCain because he was born in Panama. Some host nations DO offer citizenship to children born there to American military personnel. My cousin received a letter from the German government about six months before she turned eighteen.
She is a natural citizen, not naturalized.

693 hayseed  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:08:46am

well Man U is playing .......be good

694 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:08:49am

re: #683 mjazzguitar

I think Carter will come back and the headlines will read "Peace In Our Time".

You know I recall very well Carters harrowing encounter with the killer swamp bunny.
I also seem to recall that he had a UFO encounter. Anyone remember that?

695 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:09:11am

re: #686 EC Marm

Obama's view of "small town" Pennsylvania.

Funny thing is I think that dad is being a good father. Nothing wrong with reading the good book,keeping your possessions clean, and looking out for strangers. I think those are some of the virtues that made America great.

696 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:10:00am

re: #544 Lucius Septimius




It's the path of Saul.

Indeed.

I always say there are only X amount of scenarios that just keep repeating themselves with different actors, scripts, costumes staging, and art direction

But we only go so many times around the circuit

697 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:10:21am

ploome

The perfect white shirt. Buy them now, before all they make is kameezes.

698 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:10:28am

re: #675 NevergiveupUh, yeah, but the US State Department (when they FINALLY got around to answering me said that if I went to fight for Israel (not "any other Nation, btw) they'd pull my citizenship right quick.
And I suppose if I hadn't been "caught" all would have been ok, but as I said the Israeli's whipped all the Arab/Persian forces before I even got a letter back from State!

699 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:10:52am

re: #690 godfrey

It's accepted. They're not so clumsy as to authorize. It's not a distinction without a difference: the former gives political cover.

Ya I understand that fucking nuance crap just fine
lol
what I am saying is IMO essentially they have authorized it or it would not be happening, period

700 JWM  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:11:26am

re: #615 MandyManners

From memory: Judge ye not lest ye be judged. For with whatever measurement ye mete, so it will measured to you.

But, isn't there a verse in one of the Peters that speaks of a just judgment?


Everyone looks at the first sentence of that passage, but not the second. I take that to be a warning against hypocrisy, not judgment. In other words, I'm not going to be judgmental over someone who has the same petty sins on their card as I do (ie, drunkenness, sexual misconduct, etc,) However, I have no problem being judgmental over rapists, suicide bombers, serial killers and the like.

JWM

701 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:11:40am

re: #677 BabbaZee Yup, I remember that too - I think Kissenger may have said it in one of his books.

702 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:06am

re: #688 godfrey

Bless my soul, ploome, I already have a pair.

Sho'nuff you do

703 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:15am

re: #699 BabbaZee

Does anyone know, technically, how they can stop him? I want to know what to ask for, specifically.

704 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:28am

re: #668 galloping granny

Yes, that would have been the case. There is a specific law against US citizens fighting for any country other than the US. But it has nothing to do with being a dual citizen. It is part of the terms of citizenship in the US.

What about service men during the early years of WW2? Many people enlisted in the Canadian Army as well as the Brittish. Plus we had quite a few who went to China.
I know the Flying Tigers were a hood wink organization, but there were others who fought there as well.

705 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:35am
706 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:43am

re: #698 realwest

Uh, yeah, but the US State Department (when they FINALLY got around to answering me said that if I went to fight for Israel (not "any other Nation, btw) they'd pull my citizenship right quick.
And I suppose if I hadn't been "caught" all would have been ok, but as I said the Israeli's whipped all the Arab/Persian forces before I even got a letter back from State!

I am sure you are right, but the the old " Don't ask, Don't Tell " rule wasn't originally made for Homosexuals in the Military. The fact is there are plenty of American Citizens fighting in the IDF.

707 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:12:51am

re: #695 Nevergiveup

Funny thing is I think that dad is being a good father. Nothing wrong with reading the good book,keeping your possessions clean, and looking out for strangers. I think those are some of the virtues that made America great.

Uh huh. Those things are ridiculed at the wine & cheese receptions that Barry & Michelle attend.
Speaking of Michelle, shouldn't there be "Free Michelle" Demonstrations?
What did they do with her?

708 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:13:02am

re: #701 realwest

Yup, I remember that too - I think Kissenger may have said it in one of his books.

Never Kissinger, LOL
I am sure he HATES that story
He's the one who wanted to let Israel "Bleed a little"
had to be someone else

I know I saw it in a documentary

709 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:14:23am

PERUGIA, Italy - The Libyan officer tried to cloak the purpose of his call to the Italian arms dealer. "A friend," he said, wanted to buy 1 million "pieces" and 50 million items of "food."
But when that phone call was placed in 2006, Italian police were listening. They knew the meaning. Libya was shopping for guns — lots of them.

Authorities shadowed the negotiations between Libyan officials and a group of black-market dealers from across Italy for a year before they moved in and broke up what would have been a $64 million deal for hundreds of thousands of Chinese-made assault rifles.

The case, detailed in documents obtained by The Associated Press, raises questions about whether Libya, a country eagerly shedding its reputation as a sponsor of terrorism, is still surreptitiously supporting suspect groups and regimes. The investigation also underscores the Italian underworld's role as a go-between for illegal arms deals.

SNIP

710 haakondahl  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:14:37am

re: #699 BabbaZee

Well with Jimmy Carter, it's just so much hare-splitting.

711 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:14:47am

re: #685 BabbaZee Have you considered that it's not authorized, but that the Bush Administration knows it'll get little or no traction here, and the Dem's will attack the Repub's for attacking a former President of the US?

712 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:14:52am

re: #692 JeremyR

It is actually codified in law, any child born to parents who are both US citizens, born outside the USA, is a US citizen IIRC. A link was posted several weeks ago when the questions were flying about McCain because he was born in Panama. Some host nations DO offer citizenship to children born there to American military personnel. My cousin received a letter from the German government about six months before she turned eighteen.
She is a natural citizen, not naturalized.

I realize it is codified in law. At the time the law was different than it is today. And it specifically depends on just exactly where outside of the 50 states + DC you were born. US protectorates are US territory, so people like McCain who were born there are straight US Citizens just exactly as they would have been if they had been born in Boston.

People born on a US installation that is not in either the 50+DC or a US protectorate are "naturalized at birth." Their parents have to report the birth to the State Department within X number or days and the kiddie is issued naturalization papers, a US consular report of birth and a passport.

People born to US citizens somewhere like Paris or Berne or Australia were at that time "dual citizens" until the age of 18, when they had to choose either their US citizenship or citizenship in their country of birth. Those people have birth certificates issued by the country in which they were born.

713 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:15:06am

re: #700 JWM

We are supposed to judge right from wrong based on the covenant
If you can not discern right from wrong you are out of the will of GOD

What that passage means is this:

The criteria by which you judge others
your mercy, your compassion, or lack thereof

will be applied to YOU at the sit down

it is IMMORAL not to judge right from wrong, good from evil

and this is what that passage was perverted to do to billions of co called Christians

all that pacifist Jesus crap is Gramscian Churchianity of Stan

714 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:15:36am

re: #710 haakondahl

lol!

715 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:16:53am

re: #703 godfrey

Does anyone know, technically, how they can stop him? I want to know what to ask for, specifically.

They are a designated terrorist group by the US government
Isn't it still illegal to meet with a designated terror group?

716 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:17:00am
717 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:17:17am

re: #695 Nevergiveup

Funny thing is I think that dad is being a good father. Nothing wrong with reading the good book,keeping your possessions clean, and looking out for strangers. I think those are some of the virtues that made America great.


Agreed.

718 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:17:31am

re: #694 opnion
Bunny - yes
UFO - no recollection of that. Probably went with Ron Paul!

719 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:17:35am

Hey Folks, good morn to ya.

Nothing new to say about religion, or Israel, or computer security or even Jimmah Cahtah.

So here's my latest snake story. Spring sprang, and the snakes are about again. Okay. I can cope. Living in the country I'm well aware that I'm surrounded by animals, most of which I never see. But I don't care for snakes in my house. I'm kinda like that guy who didn't care for all those mfing snakes on this plane. Just don't like 'em. Silly of me, I know, but there we are. Prisoner of my own prejudice and all.

So we're sitting in the living room and my darling bride happens to look up to the ceiling and notice a snake laying in the light fixture (suspended ceiling with fluorescent fixtures). She reacted with calm deliberation, consisting of running from the room and calling to me with advice on how to handle the situation (kill it, kill it, kill it, KILL IT!)

So it seemed my task for the moment was clear.

But how, dear friends, does one best go about getting a snake out of a suspended ceiling? The prospect of moving ceiling tile after tile in a futile attempt to catch up to the critter daunted me. The idea of shooting a gun indoors was out, right outthe downside to home ownership is who is responsible for needed repairs. I don't intend to cause any more repair opportunities than needed. I don't want to even touch the critter if possible.

So I assemble my tools. Gloves, step-stool, fireplace poker and large trash can. Mounting my stool gloved, poker at the ready and trash can positioned I'm ready for battle. I slide the light cover aside and am eye to eye with my foe. A careful positioning of the poker, a quick flip of the wrist, and presto chango there's a snake in my trash can. I carried the snake a couple of hundred yards down the power easement and set him free. Told my wife that I'd killed it, so she wouldn't worry.

Didn't share with her the chances of there only being one snake in the ceiling, however. No sense in opening that can of worms.

720 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:18:17am

re: #704 JeremyR

What about service men during the early years of WW2? Many people enlisted in the Canadian Army as well as the Brittish. Plus we had quite a few who went to China.
I know the Flying Tigers were a hood wink organization, but there were others who fought there as well.

At least some of those men were rather quietly allowed to go enlist in Canada and Britain. And we had at least some US servicemen & military resources actually stationed in Britain during the Battle of Britain. (My Dad was one of them.) The Flying Tigers I believe was an "independent" organization wink wink. FDR went to great lengths at times to lend a hand before Pearl Harbor. As far as I know there were never any repercussions for any of the guys that enlisted in Canada or Britain.

721 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:18:47am

Well, I could stay here all day, but I'd really like to put my feet up in front of the fire, pour myself a toddy, and keep reading Melanie Phillips's Londonistan, which so far is excellent. Excellent, but infuriating.

722 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:19:14am

re: #708 BabbaZee

Never Kissinger, LOL
I am sure he HATES that story
He's the one who wanted to let Israel "Bleed a little"
had to be someone else

I know I saw it in a documentary

Well, whether the story is true or not, the fact remains for all Nixon's oft stated anti-semitic sentiments the Former President stepped up to the plate big time for Israel in 1973. He gave the Order to ship whatever the Israelis needed and to fly it directly to Israel. He ordered the tankers into the air to refuel our planes so they would not have to land in Europe ( who's Governments disapproved ) and to fly directly over said European counties without asking for permission.

723 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:19:30am

#719 razorbacker

SNAKIST!

724 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:19:54am

re: #722 Nevergiveup

That's why. It was a GOD thing.

725 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:20:16am

re: #697 godfrey GEEBUS,

Charvet
Dress Shirt
Was: $395.00
NOW: $138.00

Y'all can get one custom made out of super fine cotton for less than $395 or, for that mattter, $138.00!
And it won't be from FWANCE either.

726 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:20:17am

re: #700 JWM

Everyone looks at the first sentence of that passage, but not the second. I take that to be a warning against hypocrisy, not judgment. In other words, I'm not going to be judgmental over someone who has the same petty sins on their card as I do (ie, drunkenness, sexual misconduct, etc,) However, I have no problem being judgmental over rapists, suicide bombers, serial killers and the like.

JWM

IN fact we are reminded to judge. Ifwe do not judge, how can we determine if something is evil? and we are told to flee from evil associations and from doing evil deeds.
People can make the Bible say anything they want if they take select phrases out of context.

727 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:20:18am

re: #719 razorbacker

Splendid. If it rattled, it would've made a fine antipasto.

728 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:20:19am

re: #689 realwest

Just plain old pancakes -- married to a kosher vegetarian, so no bacon or sausage around here, sad to say.

Grading sucks, no question about it.

729 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:21:31am

re: #725 realwest

Oh, I know. I just like the details, and the hand-madeness of them.

730 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:21:50am

re: #729 godfrey

heft.

731 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:22:37am

re: #725 realwest

I'm doing other things to help France, such as helping to kill Fwance dead.

732 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:23:17am

Any reason we may suppose for G-d's will could not be the ultimate reason. The finite mind cannot begin to fathom an infinite wisdom ~ never mind that which brought forth wisdom from the Void.

The ultimate knowledge

is that we do not know.

~ From the wisdom of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Schneerson; words and condensation by Tzvi Freeman.

733 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:23:36am

re: #730 BabbaZee

Hef? What do naked Playboy bunnies have to do with anything? Are you trying to turn this into a boob thread?

734 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:24:01am

re: #719 razorbacker

Hey Folks, good morn to ya.

Nothing new to say about religion, or Israel, or computer security or even Jimmah Cahtah.

You are a brave man. I would have not run around yelling kill it, I would have jumped out the window even on the tenth floor. (Nothing petries me as much as snakes!) Where do you live so I know not to move there? And did you see the picture of the snake around the light plug at someone's place of work a couple of days ago?

735 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:24:08am

re: #703 godfrey Excuse me while I jump in here: conducting foreign policy is the provence of the Executive Branch (although four Dem congresscritters, not to mention Nancy Pelosi *spit*) didn't see it that way - I think they'd prosecute him under the Logan Act, but I'm not sure; Hamas is on the US list of terrorist organizatons, so they could go after him for that too or instead of!).

736 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:25:07am

re: #712 galloping granny

I realize it is codified in law. At the time the law was different than it is today. And it specifically depends on just exactly where outside of the 50 states + DC you were born. US protectorates are US territory, so people like McCain who were born there are straight US Citizens just exactly as they would have been if they had been born in Boston.

People born on a US installation that is not in either the 50+DC or a US protectorate are "naturalized at birth." Their parents have to report the birth to the State Department within X number or days and the kiddie is issued naturalization papers, a US consular report of birth and a passport.

People born to US citizens somewhere like Paris or Berne or Australia were at that time "dual citizens" until the age of 18, when they had to choose either their US citizenship or citizenship in their country of birth. Those people have birth certificates issued by the country in which they were born.

IIRC, the law was codified in the early 1800's to cover the children of diplomats and the guards at our embassys since most did not have facilities back then for delivering babies and a boat trip home to give birth was folly.

737 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:26:04am

re: #730 BabbaZee

Or lightness. The thing is, like anything, there is perfectly-made, well-made, adequately-made, and sh*tty. At some point, if you can, it's good to support the perfectionists. Good for the culture. Otherwise, you get a race to the bottom.

Another example: there is incredibly good butt-wagging p-funk, fine/adequate funk, and lame sampled stupid imitation "funk." I go for the handmade real stuff when I can.

738 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:26:41am

re: #735 realwest

Right, so who's an appropriate person to bring the case?

739 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:26:50am

re: #722 Nevergiveup

Well, whether the story is true or not, the fact remains for all Nixon's oft stated anti-semitic sentiments the Former President stepped up to the plate big time for Israel in 1973. He gave the Order to ship whatever the Israelis needed and to fly it directly to Israel. He ordered the tankers into the air to refuel our planes so they would not have to land in Europe ( who's Governments disapproved ) and to fly directly over said European counties without asking for permission.

He also had all of the US military forces in Germany on alert status ready to load up and fly in if need be.

740 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:27:36am

HAMAS 101


That's who Jimmah has been meeting with for years

and NO ONE is stopping him now


and some try to tell me I am crazy?


I am not insane, Most Excellent Festus!

741 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:27:45am

re: #706 Nevergiveup
Uh, this discussion is going nowhere fast - unless they have dual citizenship, any American who serves in the military forces of a foreign nation can have his/her citizenship revoked. As for "The fact is there are plenty of American Citizens fighting in the IDF." I just don't know how you can say that, much less prove it.

742 JWM  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:27:56am

re: #713 BabbaZee
I think we're on the same page here, BabbaZee. What I'm saying is this: I, like all of us, fall way short of living up to the standard. I'm not going to condemn people for similar failures. However, I have the right, and indeed the responsibility to call out true evil for what it is, and not take a namby pamby, 'well who am I to judge?' position.
BTW, Good morning.

JWM

743 Ma Sands  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:28:22am

re: #677 BabbaZee

If Richard Nixon's mother had not prophesied to him about the Jewish people when he was little
America would have thrown Israel under the bus during the Yom Kippur war.

Golda Meir called Nixon in the dead of night
begged him for help
He said he heard his mothers voice speaking to him about Israel
and he knew it meant the end for him politically
but he knew his whole life led him to that one day and that one moment
that all of it was only for that moment
when he would be the one to get the call with the voice of his mother reading Genesis to him in his head
He did everything Golda asked

For that ONE ACT
he has a place in heaven

I saw story that in a documentary once ages ago
I will try to find a reference for it


That is a beautiful story; thank you, Babba, for posting it.


(Btw.....a place in heaven is otherwise and more surely obtained... :)

744 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:28:39am

re: #733 MandyManners

LOL

H-E-F-T

745 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:28:46am

re: #736 JeremyR

IIRC, the law was codified in the early 1800's to cover the children of diplomats and the guards at our embassys since most did not have facilities back then for delivering babies and a boat trip home to give birth was folly.

Exactly. And an embassy or consulate qualifies as an "installation." The dual citizenship thing applies to parents who are essentially independent of the government having children in a clinic in Timbuktu or some such.

746 pittrader1988  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:28:58am

I am an angry small town America dude.

747 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:12am
748 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:13am

re: #740 BabbaZee

You are not crazy.

The venal selfish world is crazy, like wolves chewing off their own legs and calling for more demi-glace.

749 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:20am

re: #720 galloping granny

The flying tigers were independent? LOL! Some of them were ordered to go. When they were "reintegrated" there were problems since many wanted to return to their own units rather then fight where they got assigned.
Roosevelt was playing many cards, showing many faces. He Fucked arround for quite a while waiting for us to get attacked before he actually did something. Watched stuff about him and Churchill on Military channel last night. He was a waffeler like Clinton.

750 right wing zephyr  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:41am

"The underlying truth of what I said remains,

HUH?

"And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not," he said.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he also

751 EC Marm  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:43am

re: #741 realwest
My own father did it. No fighting, per se, more of a support role.

752 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:29:49am

re: #742 JWM

I know we are on the same page
{JWM}

Good Morning to you

753 godfrey  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:30:25am

{LGF} You all have a great day!

754 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:30:26am

re: #741 realwest

Uh, this discussion is going nowhere fast - unless they have dual citizenship, any American who serves in the military forces of a foreign nation can have his/her citizenship revoked. As for "The fact is there are plenty of American Citizens fighting in the IDF." I just don't know how you can say that, much less prove it.

Every single war that Israel has ever fought there have been floods of Jewish US Citizens that hop the nearest plane and pick up a gun on behalf of Israel. Your mistake was that you asked permission.

755 JWM  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:30:35am

re: #746 pittrader1988

I am an angry small town America dude.

So buy a gun, and go to church. (not necessarily in that same order)
;)

JWM

756 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:30:42am

re: #748 godfrey

You are not crazy.

The venal selfish world is crazy, like wolves chewing off their own legs and calling for more demi-glace.

{Godfrey}

I love that
If I could roatate titles
it would orbit the blog

757 galloping granny  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:31:34am

re: #749 JeremyR

The flying tigers were independent? LOL! Some of them were ordered to go. When they were "reintegrated" there were problems since many wanted to return to their own units rather then fight where they got assigned.
Roosevelt was playing many cards, showing many faces. He Fucked arround for quite a while waiting for us to get attacked before he actually did something. Watched stuff about him and Churchill on Military channel last night. He was a waffeler like Clinton.

That is why I added "wink wink." I am fully aware that the Flying Tigers were a US unit made up of US military personnel, LOL.

758 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:31:45am

re: #742 JWM

I have the right, and indeed the responsibility to call out evil

Not to mention the AUTHORITY

759 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:32:18am

re: #741 realwest

Uh, this discussion is going nowhere fast - unless they have dual citizenship, any American who serves in the military forces of a foreign nation can have his/her citizenship revoked. As for "The fact is there are plenty of American Citizens fighting in the IDF." I just don't know how you can say that, much less prove it.

I was trying to point out earlier that often the dept of State looks away for various reasons.

760 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:32:31am

re: #741 realwest

Uh, this discussion is going nowhere fast - unless they have dual citizenship, any American who serves in the military forces of a foreign nation can have his/her citizenship revoked. As for "The fact is there are plenty of American Citizens fighting in the IDF." I just don't know how you can say that, much less prove it.

I am not trying to make an aurgument over this. I just know a bunch of Americans who are in or have been in the IDF and there is to the best of my knowledge never been a case of an American's citizenship being challenged for having done so.

761 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:33:01am

Dear Brother,

We have never met but perhaps, if we did, we would recognize reach other as fellow Jews. I have thought about your birthday today; I had to write you, even though I will never know your name. It is probably not even your birthday but, since these facts are all lost, let it be your brithday today, forever, and remembered well.

I am sitting in my safe nice home in America, I own a gun but I live completely without fear. I am writing to you using a modern marvel called a computer; it makes a typewriter all but worthless.

I am fortunate, I have everything anyone copuld want, including the luxury of thinking about you. No, make that a duty to think about you because I am pretty sure that I might not have what I have if it were not for you brother.

Is it really 65 years? Yes the calendar does not lie, April 13, 1943, the day you lit a fire that, I am pleased to say, is not going out any time soon. I try to think what was going through your head in that cold April morning. You had suffered through 3 1/2 years of the most brutal occupation in human history, a marked man with the yellow J on your clothes. You were so hungry, the Germans loved starvation as social policy. You were sad and even traumatized, most of your family was gone- you had seen every form of death inflicted on those you loved and knew. You had been shoved into the Ghetto and watched just about everyone die; you shared what you had but the Ghetto was a death trap, you either left to be killed or worked to death.

At first you could not believe the stories. Camps, set up solely for murdering people by the thousands. It was insane, why waste productive people? But Nazi logic is different from other logic. The crime was your existence and death the degree. As more and more people disappeared and never heard from again, when a couple of escapees finally revealed the truth, the facts were all there but what could you do?

You resisted. You and your brothers supplied Hitler with the lowest quality goods you could get away with. You stole from his troops, sabotaged his equipment, anything to slow or hurt the Beast. And you fought to survive to bear witness against his crimes so that 65 years later, the scum of the earth could not deny his crimes in the face of the overwhelming evidence it did.

But then brother you did something so magnificent, so unbelievable, so powerful and so brave that you changed the face of history itself. For more than 1800 years, our people suffered and were killed on a whim, our lives filled with degradation and contempt. Then you said: "enough."

You made a pact to the death with your fellow survivors to fight an not die like sheep. From your birthday forward, they would pay a price. With little more than your wits, in the face of certain death, with a cobbled together an arsenal of junk weapons and went to meet your fate.

So it was today, 65 years ago, the Nazis marched in expecting to easily liquidate the Warsaw Ghetto, as they had the others before. Their plan was ruthless and vicious, find every Jew, drive them out or kill them. The Jews of Warsaw would be no more. And since you, brother were one of those Jews, you faced your doom.

The Germans could not believe the fight you gave them. You took on one of the best armies in the world and fought the to a standstill; you fought them in the stairwells and sewers, from the rooftops to the rubble. Ghetto fighting lasted until Liberation; you tied down five German divisions for over three months.

I don't know when or how you fell, brother, but you were so unbbelievably brave. Today, the Jews have Israel and your courage flows in the blood of the children of those who survived. You lit quite a fire, brother, it many ways it burns brighter than ever. We cherish our freedom, we cherish your memory and we remember you taught us the way.

You began a Jewish Army that swears to do its duty; each soldier is given a gun and a Torah.

762 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:33:20am

re: #745 galloping granny

But children born to embassy staff are rarely born inside the embassy. If they were it would be immaterial since all embassiues are sovreign US territory.

763 Shug  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:33:26am

Good Morning folks.

Randi Rhodes, if you are reading, how's that Bloody Mary ? Spicy enough ?

764 marjoriemoon  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:34:15am

re: #754 galloping granny

Every single war that Israel has ever fought there have been floods of Jewish US Citizens that hop the nearest plane and pick up a gun on behalf of Israel. Your mistake was that you asked permission.

Just FYI. Yes, non-Israeli Jews everywhere can join the IDF.

[Link: www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org...]

765 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:34:20am

re: #723 BabbaZee

I have no problem with that.

re: #727 godfrey

The bones, man, think of the bones.

re: #734 galloping granny

You are a brave man. I would have not run around yelling kill it, I would have jumped out the window even on the tenth floor. (Nothing petries me as much as snakes!) Where do you live so I know not to move there? And did you see the picture of the snake around the light plug at someone's place of work a couple of days ago?

I am not a brave man, I am an abject coward. My wife, however, has not yet noticed this. I don't see any reason to mention it to her.

I live in NW Arkansas. Wonderful place, unless you're looking for a place to which to move. In that case it is a violent, crime-ridden hellhole. Stay away.

766 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:35:31am

re: #761 ayatollah ghilmeini

144,000 updings


Also see here

767 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:37:02am

re: #757 galloping granny

I WAS TEASING! SHEESH. Take me with a grain of salt once in a while. Thats why the LOL tag.
Love ya!

768 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:37:06am

re: #728 Lucius Septimius "married to a kosher vegetarian,"
Uh, is she a "pure vegetarian" or does she eat fish or chicken? Cause if not, can't see much point to owning a barbie!
OTOH, she has given you many lovely children, that more than balances it out, I'd say!

769 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:37:09am

cont.

Happy Birthday brother! Thanks to you, the Jewish people still live. We have hope and we are strong. We took your courage and built Israel. Those of us in America stand with our fellow Jews all over the world with your lesson in our hearts.

We don't have to know your name because your deed is your name. Rest brother, the Zion's torch is lit and shines bright even in the darkest night of hatred. Hitler's heart may not be dead; but those who march in his steps are weak and, G-D willing, soon to be weaker.

Happy Birthday!

Love your American Brother

770 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:38:33am

even better

771 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:39:36am
772 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:41:01am

re: #738 godfrey Well I suppose it would be one of the US Attornies - probably the one for Georgia, but I'm not sure. It would NOT be Congress - not an impeachment or anything. SO I'm guessing some poor schlump US Attorney.
But ya know the entire Republican Party would get the blame in the MSM (it should be credit, but then ya get into woulda, coulda, shoulda land!).

773 JeremyR  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:42:08am

Time to get ready for Church. See ya all this evening.

774 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:43:18am

re: #768 realwest

"married to a kosher vegetarian,"
Uh, is she a "pure vegetarian" or does she eat fish or chicken? Cause if not, can't see much point to owning a barbie!
OTOH, she has given you many lovely children, that more than balances it out, I'd say!

She's a great wife and mom, a first-rate scholar, and an excellent cook, so I don't have much to complain about. But some nice crispy bacon would be good now and then.

Gotta run. Later, all.

775 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:44:14am

re: #742 JWM Indeed - who am I to judge - ME, that's who. Society is to judge, juries of one's peers are to judge. The Final Judgment Day may prove me wrong for pointing out and exclaiming about what I perceive to be EVIL, but I'm willing to take the chance on that one.

Great post, btw!

776 nyc redneck  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:44:23am

re: #721 godfrey

Well, I could stay here all day, but I'd really like to put my feet up in front of the fire, pour myself a toddy, and keep reading Melanie Phillips's Londonistan, which so far is excellent. Excellent, but infuriating.

i'm reading it too. i took a yellow hi-lighter to the introduction which really sums up what's going on in england. very frustrating. and disgusting to see the british elites groveling before 7th century savages.

777 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:45:49am

See youse guys later. Time for brunch. Grilled porterhouse, basted eggs, home made hash browns with toast made from fresh baked bread. I can feel my arteries hardening as I type.

778 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:46:35am

re: #749 JeremyR Ah, yes, in many ways FDR was a waffler, but most definitely NOT Clinton like in any way that counts.

779 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:49:18am

re: #754 galloping granny No - my "mistake" was that I wasn't Jewish. Or the mistake was that the Israeli consulate was honest with me. If they'd a said "raise your right hand" I'd a gone in a NYC minute.
Probably still would have gotten there too late though!

780 BabbaZee  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:49:47am
781 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:53:07am

re: #761 ayatollah ghilmeini Just WOW! That was an incredible post - perhaps your best post to date in a string of GREAT posts.
Thank you.

782 realwest  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:57:14am

re: #781 realwest Add #769 to what I just said!

783 LEGION  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:58:19am

re: #749 JeremyR

Well he was a demorat after all. His meddling in the economy extended the Great Depression rather than alleviating it also. And he's thought of as a great president? Pishaw!

784 opnion  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:58:28am

re: #718 realwest

Bunny - yes
UFO - no recollection of that. Probably went with Ron Paul!

Kucinich claimed a UFO encounter at the house of Shirley McClaine.
I could have sworn that Carter had one as Governor.Maybe not

785 ashan  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 1:01:42pm

When will the world wake up to the truth about what the Palithugs really want? Olmert, Livni, Condi, Bush and everyone who doesn't quite get it...
Here's the proof:
"Video: PA rep: 'Once we get Jerusalem, we'll move on to drive Israelis out of all of Palestine'"

In this April 9 (2008 of course!) interview from Lebanon's NBN TV with 'Palestinian Authority' ['our peace partner' CiJ] representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki, Zaki states that he supports anti-Israeli attacks and that "We act according to the phased plan. Once we get Jerusalem, we will move on to drive Israelis out of all of 'Palestine.'"

786 eaglewingz08  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 1:40:04pm

Happy Birthday Charles Enjoy Your Special Day And May God Bless You With Many More Such Days With Love, Joy, Peace & Prosperity:

BTW, I am sorry, I stored your cake in a mosque in Southern Iran (cause they have really good bakers there); when, wouldn't you know it,my associates did a test run on lighting the candles (well there are quite a few to put on top due to your sagacity) and next thing you know ordinance that was being stored in the mosque (doesn't every church and temple in the world have an arms factory inside?) just exploded from the heat of the candles. Well, that was the end of your surprise birthday Death By Chocolate cake. Though, it did live up to its name, not as I intended.

787 D. Edgren (the Merciless Infidel)  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 2:48:54pm

So now Hillary is drinking beer in bars with Crown Royal shots...

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

I don't care what else she does to make to make herself out to be just one of the folks. I'm not voting for her until she hoists her leg up a little bit in a public place, farts, and then says,

"...now who did that? I didn't do it!"


D. Edgren

788 D. Edgren (the Merciless Infidel)  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 2:52:09pm

...and, oh yeah, Happy Birthday, Charles! The best to you in the year ahead.


D. Edgren

789 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:17:22pm
790 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:20:33pm
791 BBev  Tue, Apr 15, 2008 2:56:59pm

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