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Ontario 'Human Rights' Commission Drops Mindcrime Charges

Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:08:46 am PDT

Last week the Ontario Human Rights Commission dropped their absurd Kafkaesque “human rights” charges against Maclean’s magazine—not because their witch hunt was wrong and offensive, but because they “lacked jurisdiction.”

But their statement makes it clear they intend to continue trying to control the free expression of ideas in Canada, especially when it comes to criticism of Islam.

Even though the Commission is not proceeding with these complaints, it still has a broader role in addressing the tension and conflict that such writings cause in the community and the impact that they have on the groups that are being singled out.

While freedom of expression must be recognized as a cornerstone of a functioning democracy, the Commission strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims, Arabs, South Asians and indeed any racialized community in the media, such as the Maclean’s article and others like them, as being inconsistent with the values enshrined in our human rights codes. Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.

In a country whose media lean so far to the left that they risk tilting the whole continent, that last sentence is laughable.

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1 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:10:39am

Resistance is futile.

2 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:10:42am

And by "unbiased," they mean not biased against Islam.

/unbiased my ass

3 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:11:13am

does sanity win out?

4 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:12:03am

The good folks at the Ontario "Human Rights" Commission would not know "fair and unbiased" if it bit them on the ass.

5 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:12:16am

Aren't the mind-police going after the magazine in British Columbia?

6 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:12:26am

Anybody ever mentioned to these folks that "media" is plural?

"Media have a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism."

7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:12:43am
Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.

Unless it offends Muslims or liberals

8 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:12:59am

Media has have a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.

9 debutaunt  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:13:06am

This is proof that it requires the sanction of the victim to work even slightly. Ezra rocks!

10 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:13:22am

Coming soon to an Obama America near you...

This is exactly why it is so dangerous to have an Obama Presidency, and a strong Democratic House and Senate...

11 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:13:25am

re: #6 jwpaine

Was the mind-meld as good for you as it was for me?

12 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:13:35am

#8 Mandy Manners


Copycat.

13 The Other Les  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:14:03am

This is the sort of shit that Orwell spent his dying days writing 1984 as a warning to us.

Of course some folks read tend to 1984 as an instruction manual.

14 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:14:12am

Oddly, I feel like having a cigarette and sharing something personal.

15 Iron Fist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:14:48am

re: #6 jwpaine

re: #8 MandyManners,

All those layers and fact-checkers appear to have missed the basic grammer of the sentance. I am shocked.

16 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:15:12am
17 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:16:45am
In a country whose media lean so far to the left that they risk tilting the whole continent, that last sentence is laughable.

nuff said.

18 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:16:47am

re: #14 jwpaine

Oddly, I feel like having a cigarette and sharing something personal.

ROFLMAO! I'm smoking one right now.

19 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:16:48am

re: #8 MandyManners

Media has have a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.

You grammar nazi, you. :-)

20 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:17:07am

re: #13 The Other Les

This is the sort of shit that Orwell spent his dying days writing 1984 as a warning to us.

Of course some folks read tend to 1984 as an instruction manual.

In a way that THEY (emphasis) are to blame more than US.

Wonder if they've read Animal Farm too.

21 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:17:44am

re: #15 Iron Fist

re: #8 MandyManners,

All those layers and fact-checkers appear to have missed the basic grammer of the sentance. I am shocked.

It drives me bat-shit crazy.

22 zmdavid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:17:45am

Technically "media" is plural, but in actuality, there is only one. E pluribus unum (thought).

23 Fast Eddie  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:18:10am

Things like this sure give you a renewed appreciation for those "old white men" who wrote and adopted a Bill of Rights that meant what it said, and said what it meant.

24 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:18:16am

re: #19 Honorary Yooper

You grammar nazi, you. :-)

Get's me goose-stepping every time.

25 Stringart  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:18:18am

Ezra's case is before the Alberta Human Rights Commission. The Ontario HRC rejected the Maclean's case.

26 Roentgen  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:18:29am

"Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism support jihad."

27 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:18:37am

Any chance he could get restitution for the time and money they cost him?

/crickets

28 Charlie Martel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:20:14am

re: #17 maddogg

Maybe that's why global warming's really happening!
Just sayin'

29 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:20:14am

While freedom of expression must be recognized as the greatest threat to the Caliphate, the Commission strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims, Arabs, South Asians and indeed any muslim community in the media, such as the Maclean’s article and others like them, as being inconsistent with the values enshrined by our Prophet (PBUH) in Koran. Media has a responsibility to engage in insuring the dhimmitude of the masses.

More accurate rewrite.

30 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:20:38am
...and indeed any racialized community

So the Human Rights Commission condemns negative portrayals of radical Islam?

These people are insane.

I sure hope Canadians are watching this carefully.

31 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:21:12am

Exactly what is "racialized" supposed to mean? Is that any group that manages to shriek racism when their feelings are hurt, whether they're an actual race or not? Maybe if I don't get my way, I can just scream "You're just doing that because I'm a Typical White Person!" That ought to racialize the problem.

32 Andopolis  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:22:00am
Commission strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims, Arabs, South Asians

Islamophobic? How many times do I have to explain this to liberals?

phobia –noun
a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.

The key phrase here is irrational fear. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have an irrational fear of muslims... a rational distrust maybe...

33 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:22:04am

re: #24 MandyManners

Suddenly reminds me of how they're teaching ebonics as part of English lessons in Oakland.

/note the pseudo-scientific term given to slang...

34 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:22:34am

re: #31 doppelganglander

Exactly what is "racialized" supposed to mean? Is that any group that manages to shriek racism when their feelings are hurt, whether they're an actual race or not? Maybe if I don't get my way, I can just scream "You're just doing that because I'm a Typical White Person!" That ought to racialize the problem.

The KKK is a Conservative, Radical, white organization... Nobody waxing poetic about that...

35 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:22:48am

re: #31 doppelganglander

Exactly what is "racialized" supposed to mean? Is that any group that manages to shriek racism when their feelings are hurt, whether they're an actual race or not? Maybe if I don't get my way, I can just scream "You're just doing that because I'm a Typical White Person!" That ought to racialize the problem.

Racialized implies external forces acting upon the "victim" therefore any reaction on part of the "victim" is excusable.

36 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:23:15am

re: #33 laZardo

Suddenly reminds me of how they're teaching ebonics as part of English lessons in Oakland.

/note the pseudo-scientific term given to slang...

If they keep teaching crap like that and kids get dumber and dumber, my kids (when I have them) are going to run this planet...

37 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:23:38am

re: #28 Charlie Martel

Maybe that's why global warming's really happening!
Just sayin'

Global Warming is a leftard's wet dream, nothing more.

38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:23:44am

re: #33 laZardo

Suddenly reminds me of how they're teaching ebonics as part of English lessons in Oakland.

/note the pseudo-scientific term given to slang...

Why do only 49 states participate in the Miss Ebonics USA pagent?

No one wants to be Miss Idaho.

39 stevieray  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:23:45am

These Human Rights Commissions get away with this stuff because too many people think being a "nice" person is the same as being a "good" person, but history shows otherwise. Good people oppose evil, nice people excuse evil, because they can't bring themselves to judge anyone.

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:23:49am

re: #36 tfc3rid

How're the Mets doin'?

41 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:24:26am

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How're the Mets doin'?

The season is over... Can Gainats camp start soon?

42 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:24:38am

re: #37 maddogg

Back then it was global cooling. Would that make global warming the metaphorical cold shower?

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:24:40am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

gah!

44 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:24:43am

(sp) issue... I meant Giants

45 redc1c4  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:16am

well, that was white of them...... %-)

/multi-cultural smoke out!

46 selpaw  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:24am
Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism.

What the media is required is to speak the truth.

This fair and balanced- fair and unbiased bullshit is for the birds.....
All that does is lead to skewing ones own opinion for the good of ones own opinion.


1. It is a way to hide from being honest under the cloak of supposed balance. (I say I am objective so that is enough!)

2. It is deception at it's best.

Yesterday Fox News reported on Carter and how he has dedicated his whole life to ME peace!

There is no such thing as fair and balanced and most definitely fair and unbiased.

What happened to truth, real honest truth for the sake of truth?! Something not just the media needs to learn but those we elect to office!

Ok, this is far from a perfect world because truth and lies have now become so interwoven for the good of ones own bankrupt objectives we are sinking as fast as Charles comment that Canada is leaning so far to the left they risk tilting the whole continent...

47 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:32am

re: #33 laZardo

Suddenly reminds me of how they're teaching ebonics as part of English lessons in Oakland.

/note the pseudo-scientific term given to slang...

Now this is an example of whitey keeping the black man down. But will Obama and the other liberals criticize it?

48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:50am

re: #44 tfc3rid

It's opening day and Mets have been eliminated?

49 Dianna  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:27am

re: #6 jwpaine

Hey!

How's things?

50 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:28am

Maybe this time there's a good outcome. But the Human Rights Commissions are still there, still susceptible to investigating accusations of "hate speech" and costing the accused individual(s) time and anguish, as well as substantial attorney's fees. Canada has no Bill of Rights. Free speech truly exists in Canada only for the politically correct.

51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:33am

psssst....jimmah....again....over there--------------->

52 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:46am

re: #47 Kosh's Shadow

Now this is an example of whitey keeping the black man down. But will Obama and the other liberals criticize it?

But it isn't... It's for the children... We have to better understand them... Know what they are feeeeeeeling...

Understand their language...

53 macintush  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:48am

The Ontario Human Rights commission is obviously concerned with neither Humans, or Rights.

54 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:52am

re: #47 Kosh's Shadow

Not in the name of diversity! And tolerance!

/and CHANGE!

55 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:53am

Have the multi-culti Canadians thrown Mark Steyn in jail yet for merely commenting on Islam's...er...violent tendencies?

Meanwhile, when Toronto imams preach death to Canadian nonbelievers & whites & Christians...Canadians rejoice in the gorgeous hues of diversity & free speech.

Muslims preach murder & mayhem, and Canadians bow their heads before the altar of diversity...Mark Steyn merely criticizes what the imams are saying, and he's hauled into court for hate speech & thought crimes, and vilified by nearly all.

Bravo, brave Canadians.

56 jamgarr  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:27:24am

What the hell is a racialized community ?

57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:27:45am

re: #56 jamgarr

What the hell is a racialized community ?

Islam

58 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:27:54am

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's opening day and Mets have been eliminated?

No... they are 5-6... Pathetic... Look like last September... No fire... No desire... They lose and it's 'Eh, no big deal...'

59 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:02am

re: #6 jwpaine

Anybody ever mentioned to these folks that "media" is plural?

"Media have a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism."

I suppose that next we'll be arguing over whether data is singular or plural.

60 CanadianBaron  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:07am

Woe is my home and native land.

She basically said "we can't try the case but I really wish we could, as I already know you're guilty."

Viva Steyn!

61 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:13am

I wrote an newspaper editorial a couple of decades ago about ebonics (a new concept then) in which I said no black father would want to see his child consigned to working in a carwash due to his inability to communicate effectively. Naturally, I was bombarded with LttE's accusing me of racism.

62 Tumulus11  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:28am
'The Commission has long emphasized that forms of racism exist in all of society’s institutions. In order to effectively respond to racism, it is necessary to clearly acknowledge its existence.'

'Racism exists in the media and the media has a significant role to play in either combating societal racism or refraining from communicating and reproducing it. Islamophobia is a form of racism that includes stereotypes, bias or acts of hostility towards Muslims and the viewing of Muslims as a greater security threat on an institutional, systemic and societal level.'

'The Commission is concerned that since the September 2001 attacks, Islamophobic attitudes are becoming more prevalent in society and Muslims are increasingly the target of intolerance, including an unwillingness to consider accommodating some of their religious beliefs and practices.'

. There won't be any need for hearings. The Commission has already drawn its conclusions.

63 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:40am

re: #59 Son of the Black Dog

I suppose that next we'll be arguing over whether data is singular or plural.

Nah... Everyone knows that Data is the plural form of datum.

64 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:29:00am

Barbara Hall is a moonbat-so crazy Toronto (very lefty city) bounced her out on her moonbat ass. I'm going to dig up the response of the Muslim Canadian Congress (the non Islamist organization).

65 jamgarr  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:29:23am

re: #56 jamgarr

What the hell is a racialized community ?


That's like saying "a mammalized flock".

66 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:25am

re: #46 selpaw

What the media is required is to speak the truth.

This fair and balanced- fair and unbiased bullshit is for the birds.....
All that does is lead to skewing ones own opinion for the good of ones own opinion.


1. It is a way to hide from being honest under the cloak of supposed balance. (I say I am objective so that is enough!)

2. It is deception at it's best.

Yesterday Fox News reported on Carter and how he has dedicated his whole life to ME peace!

There is no such thing as fair and balanced and most definitely fair and unbiased.

(snip).

I have also noticed that Obama seems to hold the top left spot on the Fox front page in perpetuity. Nothing else of any kind about anything has been there in days.

67 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:16am

Hi Charles, you might want to add this to the post. The Muslim Canadian Congress is (rightfully) disgusted by the OHRC's deference to sharia and Islamists...a number of them apparently sit on the Commission.

68 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:34am

re: #59 Son of the Black Dog

Not at all... there's no argument. Data is plural.

/thus spake Zarathustra, ex cathedra

69 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:10am

re: #46 selpaw

{selpaw}

Chag Sameach-leaving soon...

70 Scarlet Pimpernel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:34am

Hello Lizards!
One embarrassed Canadian here..
What`s happening to my country?

71 gymnast  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:53am

The Canadian Human Rights Commission as well as the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal have allowed some individuals to set the organizations up as a "Star Chamber" for the elimination of free speech in Canada. The Framers of the 1987 Canadian Human Right Act never imagined that the Act would be used to eliminate free speech in Canada as it is doing. There has been a 100% conviction rate in "free speech cases brought before the "Human Rights Tribunal" and the Canadian version of CAIR is going after Mark Steyn with a vengence for the exerpts of his book "America Alone" that were published in McCleans Magazine (sort of a Canadian version of Time or Newsweek).

Is is extremely important for Americans to be aware of what is going on in Canada as it seems to be an ideal place for creating the sort of mischief that creates misunderstandings of a significant scope.

72 Andopolis  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:56am

re: #59 Son of the Black Dog

I suppose that next we'll be arguing over whether data is singular or plural.

Singular... there was only one Data

73 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:24am

re: #36 tfc3rid

If they keep teaching crap like that and kids get dumber and dumber, my kids (when I have them) are going to run this planet...

But the Liberal Democrats will be sure that those dumb kids get to the polls, with a card telling them which levers to pull, along with a little "walkin' around money".

74 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:50am
75 arier_tzvi  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:59am

Yet its ok to produce anti israel slants on CBC that offend and insult alot of Jews who live in Canada. mhmm I get it.. One way is not ok and the other one is just fine. Got it...

76 Scarlet Pimpernel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:00am

re: #71 gymnast

Aint that the truth!

77 Dianna  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:36:17am

re: #61 jwpaine

Definite "Aargh!" moment there.

It's racism when different standards are applied.

78 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:14am

re: #36 tfc3rid

If they keep teaching crap like that and kids get dumber and dumber, my kids (when I have them) are going to run this planet...re: #36 tfc3rid

Be careful what you wish for....

79 pat  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:09am

Unelected. Made up of proponents, these Boards and Commissions make the rules, do the investigation, and pass judgment. Anyone think that is governmental lunacy?

80 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:39am

Well, the good news is that the HRCs haven't a friend in the world these days. With some luck, by next year they'll be disbanded. After which their members will hopefully be packed of to a country that embraces their values. Perhaps Russia.

81 latitude51  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:02am

re: #70 Scarlet Pimpernel

I'm not embarrassed, only angry. Let's not hide our heads in shame. Let's fight this to the end. The HRC's have to go.

82 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:13am

Hey, Dianna! Long time! No! See?

/punctuation graciously provided by the Ontario Human Rights Commission

83 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:20am

re: #46 selpaw

Yesterday Fox News reported on Carter and how he has dedicated his whole life to ME peace!

Right. And IMHO almost all of the problems in the Middle East can be traced back to the Carter Administration, directly or indirectly:

i.e., no Carter Administration, no Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, no Al Queda, no September 11;

or, no Carter Administration, no Iran-Iraq war, Saddam remains a bit player in the Middle East, no Gulf War I.

84 tortfeasor  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:12am

Hey, folks,

This is a release from the OHRC refusing to hear a baseless complaint against the magazine.

When they say they "lack jurisdiction" they mean simply that the commission does not censor magazines for content, having no legal authority to do so. Legal decisions are made on legal grounds. The fact that they acknowledge the existence of racism in the course of rejecting the baseless complaint does not mean that they'd love to censor magazines if they only could.

85 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:21am

re: #83 Son of the Black Dog

Imagine....

86 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:58am

you could really see in the videos that ezra levant was invincible. he held all the power.
his words of truth were so eloquent that you could see the "investigator" begin to implode. she could sense his tenacity and commitment to his principles.
that btch knows that what she is doing is wrong. that's why she wilted. she has no convictions that what she is doing is good for anyone except her and her paycheck. and that's not enough to fight a tuff competitor like mr. levant. the hrc is a predatory group. they will seek weaker prey.
these are the kind of assholes we will be up against if the left has it's way.

87 Scarlet Pimpernel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:01am

re: #81 latitude51

I agree
I`d even love to help them pack....
Move them right out of the country!

88 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:21am

re: #13 The Other Les

This is the sort of shit that Orwell spent his dying days writing 1984 as a warning to us.

Of course some folks read tend to 1984 as an instruction manual.

Increasingly it looks as if politicians and their minions right across the Western world have been doing just that!

Its staggering to see how they all sing from the same songsheet.

89 Dianna  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:01am

re: #82 jwpaine

Truly! Gratuitous....

Things are reasonably good on this end. I'll be visiting over at PB later; must get on with my work.

90 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:59am

"Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism."

This is beyond parody.

...and when that which is beyond parody (like GO's 1984, Animal Farm) becomes reality,....what kind of world are we in, then?

/never thought I would live to see the day

~ENT

91 sparrowlake  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:49:25am

Barbara Hall, herself a former leftist municipal politician, believes that the role of the HRC is to pontificate on press coverage issues even if the HRC has no jurisdiction to do so. The problem with that approach is that it is proof of intentional overreaching and that the HRC itself is unbalanced and biased.

92 jwpaine  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:50:55am

re: #89 Dianna

Probably not worth the effort, Dianna. Posting on PB is pretty sparse since CU squoze the pimple.

93 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:53:47am

re: #70 Scarlet Pimpernel

Hello Lizards!
One embarrassed Canadian here..
What`s happening to my country?

YOUR Country?

I want to know WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WHOLE WORLD~!

~ENT

94 Scarlet Pimpernel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:54:28am

re: #93 EtNorskTroll

True True
It makes me dizzy

95 gander  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:19am

Wouldn't the Canadian TV program Little Mosque on the Prairie be

hate speech

for maligning white people?

96 Scarlet Pimpernel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:01:31am

Thanks for the chat
Now it`s Dr. time
have a good day Lizards!

BBL

97 Pete (Alois)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:16:14am

It ain't over yet for the intended blogger victims of Richard Warman (ex of the Canadian Human Rights Council):

Ezra Levant;

Kate McMillan of small dead animals;

Kathy Shaidle of Five Feet of Fury;

and some hapless kid at McGill University who dared to criticize The Warman in his student newspaper...

98 JHW  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:21:56am

re: #97 Pete (Alois)

I regularly visit Kate`s blog and I was astounded to learn what is happening to the bloggers you mention. If I understand right, the CHRC wants the power to sue bloggers for hate crimes if any commenter posts anything they disapprove of. Warman seems to be a pot calling kettle black guy in this also from some of the material that`s been dug up on him.

99 RickZ  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:30:27am

re: #98 JHW

If I understand right, the CHRC wants the power to sue bloggers for hate crimes if any commenter posts anything they disapprove of.

The problem being that Warman posted, using a sockpuppet, comments on websites that, if posted by any other person, would have shut down those sites. In effect, Warman created the crime for which the websites are guilty. As are all the people charged in Canadian human rights cases.

100 B_Dix  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:44:59am

Only halfway OT-
Poor Ezra Levant has been hit with a new suit by the HRC's main thought-crime denouncer, Richard Warman:

[Link: ezralevant.com...]

These suits are total crap --essentially harassment-- but the poor victim still has take time off from his paying job and has to come up with money for lawyers to defend himself from this bullhooey. As Mr. Levant says, "... what’s really at stake here is the right for anyone to criticize Canada’s HRCs, and the existence of conservative blogs at all. If we lose, no-one else will dare to criticize the HRCs – certainly not politicians. And Richard Warman’s campaign of bullying and censorship will continue."

Levant also says "If you would have asked me late last year what I was going to do with myself after shutting down the Western Standard ... I never thought I would be fighting off a human rights complaint from radical jihadis in Alberta, and a defamation action from a radical censor in Ontario -- and trying to get our politicians to listen. But I’m up for the fight -- I just need help paying the lawyers." If anybody has spare change (it's tax season, y'know), I think he's a worthy cause to donate to...

101 Sounder  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:53:08am

Just to clear up a previously mentioned misconception. The Canadian Charter of Rights does provide for freedom of expression and association. The problem is, the moonbats want to be the (only) ones to "define" what can be freely expressed. We have a lefty website here where the site owner has even admitted he is a censor, but for good leftard reasons of course. The left here is working diligently to paint all conservatives as being racists, bigots and haters, thus the drive by 'sentencing' coming from the OHRC. To address someones earlier point about mult-culti Canada, beware Americans. America has been infiltrated into the highest levels of government, in the pentagon, into your congress, everywhere, by the Islamists and muslim brotherhood or at the very least, their sympathizers. One more thing, what do think your leftards will do once they see how free speech is considerably squashed in Canada? Will Hussein Obama , the man being cheered on by Islamists the world over, help you out? Be careful. Be careful.

102 Pete (Alois)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:08:18am

#98, #99, #100--

Canada's Human Rights code has a section (aptly numbered 13) which "protects" its citizens from hateful speech on the Internet.

Yes, that's right.

I couldn't believe it. As a longtime blogger myself, I know and accept what just about any politically-motivated American blogger takes for granted: That you are going to get called every name in the book on a pretty regular basis (on a VERY regular basis if you're a big gun like Charles). And you'd better have the hide to deal with it.

That said, I find it exceedingly ominous that there are plenty of leftbot bloggers in Canada--here's one recent example--who are licking their lips and sifting through their comment archives looking for mean things that people on the other side of the aisle have said about them, fully intending to file suit with the Canadian Human Rights Commission if Warman is successful in going after Levant, McMillan, Shaidle, and other conservative Canadians.

103 Ceemack  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:18:59am

"Free speech is a cornerstone of a functioning democracy, but..."

"Freedom of speech unless it offends someone" means no freedom of speech.

And no functioning democracy.

104 twh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:26:59am

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Well, the good news is that the HRCs haven't a friend in the world these days. With some luck, by next year they'll be disbanded. After which their members will hopefully be packed of to a country that embraces their values. Perhaps Russia.

Are you kidding? This is Canada. According to all the latest polls next election we are going to be saddled with another Liberal government, and our liberals love the HRCs. Back into the toilet we go.

105 Shug  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:40:34am
In a country whose media lean so far to the left that they risk tilting the whole continent, that last sentence is laughable

Charles for once I must disagree completely with you.

The Media of Canada has such a tiny atomic number, that their mass couldn't tilt a piece of chedder sitting on a ritz cracker, let alone a continent

106 selpaw  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:52:56am

re: #69 WriterMom

Love to you and your family!

Be safe.

Chag Sameach!

re: #66 galloping granny

I have also noticed that Obama seems to hold the top left spot on the Fox front page in perpetuity. Nothing else of any kind about anything has been there in days.

LOL! That's fair and balanced for you ; -)


re: #83 Son of the Black Dog

YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!

107 J.S.  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 2:06:55pm

re: #105 Shug

Well, I don't know, they (that's Canadian "journalist" moonbats) have a tendency of infiltrating into mainstream U.S. "news" networks -- hence, the expression, "they pull above your weight."

Note, also at the Caliphate Now Network, a number of said "journalists" or "anchor people" are Canadians...

108 Mainframe  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 3:22:39pm

Sometimes you have just got to fear for the Republic, don'tcha?

109 ballantrae  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 5:00:12pm
Operation : Mindcrime
We're an underground revolution
Working overtime
Operation : Mindcrime
If you come to see the doctor
Yeah he'll give you the cure

Apologies to Queensryche.

110 markie  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 5:15:11pm

Canadian Gestapo. Unbiased is apparently seeing it their way.

111 markie  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 5:20:20pm

re: #107 J.S.

Many comedians and actors here are from Canada. I think that has more to do with having more of a market or stage available for their creative outlets. It certainly can't be because it's any further left here than it is in the GWN.

112 darkster2400  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 5:48:10pm

hi from Canada - following the UK's example as we go off the edge of the cliff........

113 dak  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 6:15:21pm

Go read Steyn's opinion of what the Komission said.

They said that basically, while they lack the jurisdiction, they find him (and McLean's) guilty.

They are seeking enhanced powers by the way.

Canada: The tyranny of political correctness.

114 eaglewingz08  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 6:44:09pm

How can islamophobic be a form of racism when every muslim you ask says islam is a religion not a race? Just asking.

115 J.S.  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 7:18:29pm

re: #111 markie

"Many comedians and actors here are from Canada. I think that has more to do with having more of a market or stage available for their creative outlets Bush Derangement Syndrome." And, unfortunately, BDS appears to be highly contagious..(America -- fortify your borders!)

116 Mel Lono  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:42:46pm

re: #111 markie

isn't Mind Crime the name of a band from Toronto? I hear tell there is also a drink named that. Vodka, cranberry and Red Bull. Only a bartender would care!

117 maurice  Tue, Apr 15, 2008 5:42:13am

The OHRC is headed (!) by a former waitress, one-time Toronto mayor and superannuated hippie who obviously did a few too many tabs of tree frog. If you can find any audio of her 'speaking' you'll know instantly what I mean.

With people like this in charge (and, after all, who else would want to be?) abandon all hope ye who enter here.


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