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Jimmy Carter: Public Relations Go-To Guy for Hamas

Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:24:11 am PDT

Everyone from the State Department to the mayor of rocket-besieged Sderot in Israel has been trying to tell Jimmy Carter that he’s making a very serious mistake by having a high-profile meeting with Hamas thug Khaled Meshaal. But Jimmy doesn’t want to hear it: Carter wants US talks with Hamas.

AIRPORT CITY, Israel - Former President Jimmy Carter said he hoped to help open talks between Hamas and U.S. leaders, saying Washington’s policy of not meeting with people it labeled terrorists was counterproductive.

He angered Israelis with his plans to meet in Syria this week with the leader of the Islamist group, which rules Gaza and is largely responsible for rocket fire against Israeli towns. Hamas has killed some 250 Israelis in suicide bombings and has been blacklisted by the U.S. and Israel as a terrorist organization.

Speaking at an event organized by an Israeli financial newspaper, Carter said he wanted to become a “communicator” between Hamas and the U.S. “I hope then the Israeli government will deign to meet with me — they have so far refused,” he said.

State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that the U.S. has “made clear our views that we did not think now is the moment for him or anyone to be talking with Hamas.” Casey said any meeting with Hamas officials is “something we’ve counseled against. But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”

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1 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:32am

Nice picture.

2 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:34am

Bush had it right... "Increasingly Irrelevant."

3 The Other Les  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:43am

Would the Light-Bringer please call him home?

4 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:25:52am

Despciable Jew-hater, terrorist enabler. Rot of soul so deep and so foul it's hard to put into words.

5 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:08am

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

6 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:10am
7 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:11am

There was a job I once worked at and we got in a conversation about "Dhimmi Carter"...
The main GM stated, "Jimmy Carter is a VERY moral man."

I openly burst out laughing and asked, "You mean immoral, right?"

The room went deathly quiet...no wonder I lasted there for about 2 months longer after that one.

8 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:12am
State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that the U.S. has “made clear our views that we did not think now is the moment for him or anyone to be talking with Hamas.” Casey said any meeting with Hamas officials is “something we’ve counseled against. But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”

Is it not still illegal to commiserate with a state designated terror organization?

It's all bullshit
If they wanted to stop him
they could stop him.

9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:13am

Obviously Jimmy doesn't know about the Hamas Killer rabbit program.

10 zmdavid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:51am
Hamas has killed some 250 Israelis in suicide bombings and has been blacklisted by the U.S. and Israel as a terrorist organization.


Blacklisting? How mean!
/

11 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:56am

re: #5 Dustyvet

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

Remove the "Howdy", and I think you've got it.

12 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:26:59am

Pimp's in the crib.

13 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:27:45am
14 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:27:49am

Hamas 101
(Jimmah's Terrorists)

Fatah 101
(GWB's Terrorists)

15 jmuren  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:12am

Only someone on the left could meet with, against the wishes of the State Department, a terrorist organization and be feted by the media instead of arrested on his return.

16 pig farmer  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:18am

Jimmah is a disgusting piece of sh*t--when, oh when, is our State Department going to curtail his treasonous activities?

17 BingoBunny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:28am

He kept some shrapnel from Israel.. no word if he asked for a piece with blood on it.

18 Iron Fist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:34am
But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”


Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

19 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:36am

re: #5 Dustyvet

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

[Link: www.doodyville.com...]

20 crown_of_feathers  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:42am

re: #5 Dustyvet

"Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?"

LOL!

Howdy Doodie had more going on inside his head, though.

21 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:43am

Anything I posted at this point about dhimmi would get me banned.

22 Milk Toast Intolerant  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:49am

He doesn't even think Hamas are terrorists. Good gawd. This kind of stupidity is maddening.

23 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:28:51am

re: #16 pig farmer

LOL!

24 x-ray  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:29:08am

Jimmys just a bitter Georgian clinging to Religion, Hamas and Jew hatred as a coping mechanism.

25 just another four-letter word  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:29:35am

Just another headline-grabbing tool/user/putz.

Give it up, Jimmah, you're a has-been (if you were even that).

JAFLW

26 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:29:38am

re: #20 crown_of_feathers

"Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?"

LOL!

Howdy Doodie had more going on inside his head, though.

We know...:)

27 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:04am

re: #22 Milk Toast Intolerant

He doesn't even think Hamas are terrorists. Good gawd. This kind of stupidity is maddening.

Abbas is a man of peace!

28 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:10am

I am waiting for him to start wandering the Middle East in a brides dress.

29 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:44am

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

30 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:47am

Perhaps Jimmy Carter is getting senile in old age... Perhaps he's always had a sensitive twinge for the poor Palestinians...

Maybe he's just an idiot and a traitor...

31 macintush  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:30:49am

When do we get to proceed with prosecution for treason?

32 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:06am

Broken clock time. Even though he managed to mention that the rocket barrages against Sderot were criminal (okay, we can quibble that it isn't merely criminal, but an ongoing series of acts of war against Israel perpetrated by terrorists dedicated to Israel's destruction), he still manages to get everything else wrong about Hamas.

Besides, Hamas has American blood on its hands as well.

Yet, Carter repeatedly goes out of his way to defend Hamas.

33 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:10am

re: #18 Iron Fist

Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

34 Psaturn  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:56am

And historians dare call President Bush the worst president ever? Ahem...they should look at Jimmy Carter...

35 Necklace of Shoes  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:31:58am

His brother, they found out, was a registered Lybian agent. I'd check to see if his registration forms are on file.

36 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:13am

Yet, Carter GWB repeatedly goes out of his way to defend Hamas Fatah.


"Can't you see what's happening here?
Don't you see what's happening?"
~ George Bailey
37 tfc3rid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:20am

re: #18 Iron Fist

Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

Exactly what I was thinking... Isn't he covered by the Logan Act in this case, since even the morons at State are against him on this?

38 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:25am

I think he's on Bush's payroll.

39 jamgarr  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:34am

Yesterday George Will called Jimmah "delusional". Brilliant!

40 just another four-letter word  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:34am

re: #30 tfc3rid

Perhaps Jimmy Carter is getting senile in old age... Perhaps he's always had a sensitive twinge for the poor Palestinians...

Maybe he's just an idiot and a traitor...

The evidence would point to the latter...

JAFLW

41 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:35am

Jimmy Carter does what Jimmy Carter does, but who supports him? Which politicians think he is doing the right thing? I know Obama will not criticize him, and for that I would put BHO into the "unacceptable" category. Who else?

We need to know who are the terrorist enablers. Besides Jimmy Carter.

42 crown_of_feathers  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:41am

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

43 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:42am

Why did Israel let him land?

44 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:45am

I can't believe I voted for this twit in my youth

45 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:32:47am

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

How about in a black leather mini skirt, fishnet hose, and 6 inch platform patent leather boots?

46 Sabba Hillel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:12am

I would state that Dhimmi is showing the mental illness that comes with age but my wife pointed out that it would be an insult to victims of Alzheimer's and other forms of senile dementia. Besides, when a person starts losing his mental capacities because of an age related illness, his true personality comes to the fore. As a result we are seeing the true Dhimmi Carter. The "lust for the Polish people" and the hatred for Menachem Begin were apparently part of his basic personality rather than mistakes.

47 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:39am

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

Have we not indicted people very very recently
and are still doing so
for having dealings with Hamas and other designated terror groups ?
CAIR, the Holy Land Foundation, Samui Al Arian

etcetc

He is above that law?

48 Iron Fist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:44am

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.


It'd be interesting to see that argued in Court. The Law hasn't been repealed, and Carter is definately in violation of it.

They won't charge him, of course, but they should. The Bush Administration doesn't have the balls to charge him, and Carter knows it.

49 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:57am

re: #8 BabbaZee

BABBALEH...Chag Sameach...

50 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:33:58am

re: #38 Ben Hur

I think he's on Bush's payroll.

I hope this isn't some back door crap

51 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:32am

re: #16 pig farmer

When pigs fly.

52 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:43am

45 was supposed to be directed to comment # 28.

PMIF

53 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:46am

Well, Dhimmi wrote speeches for Arafish, and guided him in changing the world's opinion of that terrorist and his organization; he wants to do the same for Hamas.

54 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:55am

re: #44 hayseed

I can't believe I voted for this twit in my youth

Thank $DEITY I was too young to vote then.

55 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:34:56am

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

56 just another four-letter word  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:08am

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Look, so you made a mistake twice - don't get worked up about it, but don't repeat it either. Move ahead and don't look back. The only perfect person to walk this earth got nailed to a cross, the rest of us have to muddle along as best we can.

JAFLW

57 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:24am

Strictly a Jew-hating, America-hating, Israel-hating Leftist who never met a terrorist he didn't fall in love with.

He'd sit down w/bin Laden, KSM & Ramsey Clark & wax nostalgic about 9/11 if he could.

58 Tumulus11  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:31am
'Speaking at an event organized by an Israeli financial newspaper, Carter said he wanted to become a “communicator” between Hamas and the U.S.'

. 'Mouthpiece' is the correct term.

59 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:45am

Israel should refuse to let him land in Israel - period.

60 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:45am

re: #49 WriterMom

BABBALEH...Chag Sameach...

{Chag Sameach WriterMom!}

61 WriterMom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:52am

re: #46 Sabba Hillel

His inability to find Islamic terrorists evil pre-dates the current HamasOPalooza...remember the hostages?

62 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:35:54am

re: #44 hayseed

At least back then the Democrat states were the red ones.

63 vxbush  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:36:03am

re: #54 victor_yugo

Thank $DEITY I was too young to vote then.

Heh....that there is useful code.

64 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:36:11am

re: #50 hayseed

I hope this isn't some back door crap

It reminds of N Korea.

People were against him meeting with the Norks, but then, when he was "successful" Albright stepped right it.

65 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:36:12am

re: #24 x-ray

Jimmys just a bitter Georgian clinging to Religion, Hamas and Jew hatred as a coping mechanism.

But Obamanation and his irrevrend agree.

66 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:37:03am

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

Obama already has Dhimmi's advisers.

67 carl b  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:37:06am
people it labeled terrorists

So who would Carter consider an actual terrorist, not just one labeled as such? Oh, right, must be those apartheid Joooos who commit random acts of murder that disproportionately target those poor misunderstood peace-loving hamas activists as they practice backyard rocketry.

68 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:37:38am

re: #41 Golem Akbar

Jimmy Carter does what Jimmy Carter does, but who supports him? Which politicians think he is doing the right thing? I know Obama will not criticize him, and for that I would put BHO into the "unacceptable" category. Who else?

We need to know who are the terrorist enablers. Besides Jimmy Carter.

The terrorist enablers are all those who use the following code words: balanced approach, honest broker, even handed, human rights, moderate Palestinian. I think you get the point. Hum, now witch party and particularly which candidate's advisers use those terms. Well I'm stumped?

69 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:37:42am

President Carter is the reason I am no longer a democrat. [the party left me, I didn't leave the party]

70 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:37:48am
71 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:12am
72 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:29am

re: #16 pig farmer

Jimmah is a disgusting piece of sh*t--when, oh when, is our State Department going to curtail his treasonous activities?

/it's not treason it's free speech!

Seriously, though, Jimbo's off the ranch on this one. The US can very simply state, "Jimmy doesn't speak for the US Government and any and all 'negotiations and talks' with him will have no effect on any relations with the US Government." The end.

The fact that we so willingly allow so many US "dignitaries" (so ironic, that) to run amok and do as they please is disgusting and it makes the US leadership look spineless and irrelevant (which isn't exactly inaccurate, to be fair...).

Role-reversal time! Clinton or Obama gets elected and Bush goes to Isreal to negotiate continued mutual support. How much do you bet the liberals foam at the mouth and scream, blowing hoses of liquid hate from every available orifice?

Mmm, delicious ignorance.

73 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:38am

re: #62 laZardo

At least back then the Democrat states were the red ones.

Speaking of Red States...don't the Repub's switch to the Blue and the Dem's switch back to their true color of Commy Red?

Or is the switch permanent?

74 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:38am

But Jimmy doesn’t want to hear it

Of course not. His type always know better than the rest of us.

75 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:53am

re: #69 Golem Akbar

President Carter is the reason I am no longer a democrat. [the party left me, I didn't leave the party]

Is that you Senator Liberman?

76 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:55am

re: #47 BabbaZee

Other laws are more applicable, and IMHO should be applied.
re: #48 Iron Fist

It'd be interesting to see that argued in Court. The Law hasn't been repealed, and Carter is definately in violation of it.

They won't charge him, of course, but they should. The Bush Administration doesn't have the balls to charge him, and Carter knows it.

Every new law gets it's first case, that case is used to "test" the legality of the law. That's what's called "case law" the nuts and bolts application of a law in court.

There's never been a Logan Act trial. The law it's self has never had a "test run" there's no precedent on how it works. Added to that it's so old and never been tested, the legal system has in effect made a decision that the law is not workable. (doesn't make a lot of sense but there it is)

77 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:38:58am

re: #66 Kosh's Shadow

Obama already has Dhimmi's advisers.


Certainly, but I think Jimmah would be an excellent addition to the albatross necklace Obama has hanging around his neck.

78 Ornery Ballsack  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:20am

re: #45 maddogg

Obama's foreign policy team would be a Jimmy Carter foreign policy team. Especially Zbigniew Brezinski, with hints of Susan Power, Jeremiah Wright, and Col. Qaddafi.

79 carl b  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:27am

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Whack! Now one back at me, please...

80 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:27am
81 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:39:45am

re: #68 Nevergiveup

You forgot to add that perennial favorite: "Peace process."

As in, the Palestinian "peace process" everytime they disembowel pregnant Jewish women or blow up school kids in Tel Aviv.

82 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:40:05am

re: #76 jcm

That's what I am saying.
the fact that they are not applying them telegraphs consent, no matter what the hooplediplobabble is.

83 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:40:18am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

Is selective/inconsistent enforcement of the law a feasible defense?

84 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:40:56am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

There is book law, what congress passes, and case law what is functional in the courts.

Logan is book law, never been made case law.

I don't make up the rules, that's just the way it is.

See my #76.

85 gymnast  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:04am

Jimmah Carter? "Why he's crazier than a shit house rat and twice as willing to bite Americas collective ass" (Reputedly the last words of his Libyan agent brother).

86 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:22am

re: #81 firebreather

You forgot to add that perennial favorite: "Peace process."

As in, the Palestinian "peace process" everytime they disembowel pregnant Jewish women or blow up school kids in Tel Aviv.

Hell let's throw in "Road Map" also. There so many good ones to choose from.

87 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:31am

re: #68 Nevergiveup

The terrorist enablers are all those who use the following code words: balanced approach, honest broker, even handed, human rights, moderate Palestinian. I think you get the point. Hum, now witch party and particularly which candidate's advisers use those terms. Well I'm stumped?


Not all democrats (I am assuming that's the party you meant) are terror-enablers/Carter supporters. But most are, these days, most likely. Man, that 's really sad.

I can't understand how any Jew could have anything but contempt for Carter. And I really can't understand how anyone who loves democracy could listen or watch Jimmy Carter without throwing up.

88 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:37am
89 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:56am

re: #77 maddogg

Certainly, but I think Jimmah would be an excellent addition to the albatross necklace Obama has hanging around his neck.

My response to this would get me banned. But the image it leaves...

90 anubis_soundwave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:41:59am

Isn't he endangering his Secret Service detail by doing this?

91 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:42:23am

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

You misspelled "Osama". He advised Arafat, he wants to work with Hamas, he's out their working for real mass-murderers. Obama is a piker to him.

92 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:42:29am

Don't forget "Shelf Plan."

I can't wait for the annoying MSM metaphors on this one.

I've had quite enough of "Roadblocks" on the roadmap.

93 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:09am

re: #75 Nevergiveup

Is that you Senator Liberman?


I hope Ol' Joe isn't the only democrat who still believes in democracy or the vision of JFK (ask not what your county can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country).

94 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:11am

Here is Jimmah's idea of a real terrorist.

95 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:27am

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Into the agonizer booth with you.

96 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:44am
97 steveoh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:51am

Jimmy Carter hates Jews deeply but hates Israel even more. He is still furious over what he perceived to be Menachem Begin's broken promise to freeze settlement activity in Judea and Samaria.

He has an old grudge to square and he won't rest until he feels it's accomplished.

He has also received millions in "donations from multiple Israel hating States, political organizations and individuals. He's bought and pais for, and doing what he wants and loves to do!

98 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:12am

So, all's quiet in Egypt?

Maybe Jimmy should go there and feed the people.

99 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:19am

re: #86 Nevergiveup

How about "2-state solution" for good measure. Diplomats/journalists/academics/peaceniks love all of these slogans, no matter how transparently vapid they are.

100 Peacekeeper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:27am

Carter is a driven man...

101 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:32am
102 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:44:39am

re: #82 BabbaZee

That's what I am saying.
the fact that they are not applying them telegraphs consent, no matter what the hooplediplobabble is.

We never whacked Hanoi Jane or any of that crowd for playing footsie with the NVA. We have all kinds of people the last 45 years going and yukking it up with our enemies.

Through inane logical syllogism we've collectively concluded that having meetings with and shilling for our enemies is "free speech."

*spit*

103 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:06am

re: #90 anubis_soundwave

Isn't he endangering his Secret Service detail by doing this?

He is also putting them in a darned tight spot. The Secret Service detail is supposed to do absolutely nothing except protect his sorry ass. They are not supposed to see or hear a thing - just like they didn't see or hear Bill's soiree in the Oval Office with the blue dress and the cigar. But tell that to Hamas, who is going to look at each and every one of them as CIA spies.

And then there is the salient point that the Israeli government has instructed Shin Bet to do absolutely nothing to assist Carter - as in N.O.T.H.I.N.G

Personally, I would just tell him to bugger off and refuse to let his plane land in Israel - period.

104 Izzy Dunne[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:11am
105 Biff  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:46am

In retrospect, the Carter-Sadat-Begin Sinai deal was a major coup for the radical arabist Carter. Sadat was assassinated over the deal, Begin gave up a huge strategic advantage, oil and gas reserves, and probably the best alternative solution to the Palestinian situation. Carter's Peace Prize was his reward for furthering the Saudi agenda. He continues to milk it with his anti-semitic books and "peace" initiatives to ever more radical terrorist groups. Remember, this is also the guy who waged a massive PR campaign against our only true muslim ally in the Mideast, The Shah. The Shah was ripped apart in the MSM for defending his country against the Shia Islamists. Carter managed to hamstring the Shah to the point that the Islamists took control of Iran. Carter virtually led Khomeini from exile in Paris and back to Qom. It is also likely that Carter refused to permit the Marines to defend the Embassy leading to the 444 day hostage takeover. What a fool. What a disaster. Bush should revoke his passport.

106 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:47am

re: #100 Peacekeeper

Carter is a driven man...

Driven to what? Insanity?

107 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:45:57am

re: #84 jcm

There is book law, what congress passes, and case law what is functional in the courts.

Logan is book law, never been made case law.

I don't make up the rules, that's just the way it is.

See my #76.

Statutory law carries the same weight as case law.

108 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:46:01am
109 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:04am

I've posted this before 'cause it's such a powerful (yet concise) statement:

We call on this body [the UN] to declare war on international terror, to outlaw it and eradicate it wherever it may be. We call on this body...to unite in a common effort to place these criminals outside the pale of human society, and with them to place any country which co-operates in any way in their nefarious activities.

Chaim Herzog, Israeli delegate to the UN in 1976 after the raid on Entebbe.


You can't talk to these criminals any more than you could negotiate a rabid dog out of your yard...

110 jjag  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:12am

Carter suffers from the affliction, common among liberals, of being in love with the sound of his own voice.

In either his arrogance or his stupidity (or both) he imagines that reason can be accepted by people who have embraced a philosophy of wholesale murder to accomplish their goals. Any rational person would never conceive of "reasoning" with a murderer. Only someone with a delusional sense of superiority can believe that the mere dulcet sound of their voice and their "intelligent" structuring of argument can talk a beast out of devouring them.

This is insanity on an unimaginable level. But I suppose it is just yet another example of how liberals are completely incapable of understanding the existence of ruthlessness in some human being's nature.

Carter has evolved from a simple failure to become the epitome of evil; an "American" who coddles fiends, despots and butchers. Not satisfied for being reviled as just an incompetent president he, apparently, now wants to establish his credentials as the lowest form of public figure in American history.

111 Peacekeeper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:14am

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

They own his brain, why not let the meat walk around free?

112 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:24am

re: #88 BabbaZee

lol. when I was young I had to run out of my neighbors back door with my cowboy boots in hand when her mom came home. then I had to hop a fence...ouch

113 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:31am

re: #97 steveoh

Jimmy Carter hates Jews deeply but hates Israel even more. He is still furious over what he perceived to be Menachem Begin's broken promise to freeze settlement activity in Judea and Samaria.

He has an old grudge to square and he won't rest until he feels it's accomplished.

He has also received millions in "donations from multiple Israel hating States, political organizations and individuals. He's bought and pais for, and doing what he wants and loves to do!


I point this out to all my Jewish-democrat friends. Why are they still democrats?

They (Jewish democrats) used to say that Jimmy Carter is an old has-been, and doesn't represent the democratic party. Yet, he has been given new political life by Obama. I think Carter has become the new symbol of that party, along with Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, and maybe Reverand Wright.

114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:43am

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

"We demand the release of all Prisoners!"

"OK, 1000 prisoners"

"100?"

"Ok, we'll turn ourselves in. Just come take him. Please?"

115 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:47:54am

"Loooooooooook into my eyes. You're getting schtoooopid."

116 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:02am

re: #80 taxfreekiller

We, on the authority given under the Logan Act, do hereby petition for the arrest and trial of Jimmy Carter.

signed,

"We the People"

1. Acts so stupid he is certifiable insane.
2. Worse than Lt. for Life John F. Kerry.
3. Get the man a coyote and help him illegally immigrate into Syria.


4. Get two coyotes and he can take Lt. for Life John F. Kerry with him,

117 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:09am

re: #87 Golem Akbar

Not all democrats (I am assuming that's the party you meant) are terror-enablers/Carter supporters. But most are, these days, most likely. Man, that 's really sad.

I can't understand how any Jew could have anything but contempt for Carter. And I really can't understand how anyone who loves democracy could listen or watch Jimmy Carter without throwing up.

While all Democrats may not overtly be terrorist enablers, if they:
1) blindly criticize President Bush for not getting directly involved in the
"peace process" without acknowledging that the Israelis have no real
peace partner.
2) Back an overtly anti-semitic candidate who until he decided to run for
national office was intimately involved with terrorist elements in the
American Arab community, and apparently sleep thru 20 years of
sermons?
Then they are to stupid to be given any responsibility for this country's
Foreign Policy.

118 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:11am

re: #14 BabbaZee

Hamas 101
(Jimmah's Terrorists)

Fatah 101
(GWB's Terrorists)

Our terrorists are nicer than your terrorists!

/////////

119 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:14am

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

That would be so . . .; . . . . tragic. Maybe he could offer himself up instead of Shallit though.

120 Peacekeeper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:48:28am

re: #106 victor_yugo

Driven to what? Insanity?

No he has a limo drive him every where.

121 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:49:40am

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.


Kidnap and hold for ransom? I will contribute one Bronx cheer to the ransom fund.

123 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:49:57am

re: #121 maddogg

he would LOVE it

124 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:51:25am

re: #28 Oh no...Sand People!

I am waiting for him to start wandering the Middle East in a brides dress.

Or dressed as a ho. That fits him.

125 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:51:47am

re: #122 BabbaZee

I love that song..got it cranked. may have to go later.lol

126 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:52:20am

re: #116 Dustyvet

"I'm...John Kerry...and I'm...(dramatic pause)...Reporting for Duty!"

127 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:52:51am

Hamas' beeyotch.

128 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:53:21am
129 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:53:24am

re: #126 firebreather

"I'm...John Kerry...and I'm...(dramatic pause)...Reporting for Duty Doody!"

Fixed.

130 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:53:47am

re: #117 Nevergiveup

While all Democrats may not overtly be terrorist enablers, if they:
1) blindly criticize President Bush for not getting directly involved in the
"peace process" without acknowledging that the Israelis have no real
peace partner.
2) Back an overtly anti-semitic candidate who until he decided to run for
national office was intimately involved with terrorist elements in the
American Arab community, and apparently sleep thru 20 years of
sermons?
Then they are to stupid to be given any responsibility for this country's
Foreign Policy.


That's the reason I asked who are his supporters in the democratic party. I kind of hope BHO is the eventual candidate for president only because then it would be clear who supports democracy and who would wave the white flag and surrender to the enemy.

131 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:53:52am

Jimmah is such a small man. I'm sorry, Jimmah wouldn't make a small pimple on a man's ass.

He is just a tiny little rodent scurrying around with no ambition except to be a pain in someone's ass.

132 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:54:07am

re: #110 jjag

I think Carter actually shares the goals of Hamas.

133 steveoh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:54:14am

re: #113 Golem Akbar

I point this out to all my Jewish-democrat friends. Why are they still democrats?

They (Jewish democrats) used to say that Jimmy Carter is an old has-been, and doesn't represent the democratic party. Yet, he has been given new political life by Obama. I think Carter has become the new symbol of that party, along with Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, and maybe Reverand Wright.

Well my feeling is many of Jewish liberal democrats are more secular in their beliefs, thus they grasp liberalism as a religion. My father who fought at Okinowa during WWII was a post war liberal. Liberalism is more of a religion to him then Judaism.

134 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:54:14am

Some thoughts:

1. Would any other "private citizen" be allowed to travel to Syria and return to the US?

2. With the UNSS accompany him?

135 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:54:39am

re: #100 Peacekeeper

Carter is a driven man...



Empty vessel
driven by the beast
that makes of him
mere conveyance

136 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:55:05am

Jimmy Carter is a jerk.

.

137 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:55:30am

re: #129 Ward Cleaver


"Raped cattle...tied up electrodes to their genitals & turned up the power...lopped off their heads in a manner reminiscent of Geng-ghis Khan..."

138 Peacekeeper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:55:31am

Uh-oh

GRANTS PASS, Ore. - Scientists listening to underwater microphones have detected an unusual swarm of earthquakes off central Oregon, something that often happens before a volcanic eruption — except there are no volcanoes in the area.

139 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:19am

re: #138 Peacekeeper

there may be soon

140 Iron Fist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:25am

re: #104 Izzy Dunne,

Some things are beeter off left unsaid.

141 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:46am

[REDACTED]

142 Sifty  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:51am

Somebody teach that ignorant somebitch Carter how to play golf or build model trains or some damn somethin'. He needs something to do with his time that won't get people killed.

143 bulwrk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:54am

” Casey said any meeting with Hamas officials is “something we’ve counseled against. But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”


Is it or is it not against the law to meet with terrorist?

144 _remembertonyc  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:56:55am

carter/obama axis of evil
Considering bho's main foreign policy advisor is carter's failed NSA zbig brzezenski ...

[Link: www.politico.com...]

... I believe carter is visiting hamas with the full blessing of candidate obama. this stinks more and more every time I think about it.

145 Golem Akbar  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:57:28am

re: #133 steveoh

Well my feeling is many of Jewish liberal democrats are more secular in their beliefs, thus they grasp liberalism as a religion. My father who fought at Okinowa during WWII was a post war liberal. Liberalism is more of a religion to him then Judaism.


That's a fact. No doubt about it.

146 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:57:35am

re: #130 Golem Akbar

I understand, and other than Joe Liberman, it appears all the Democrats have and will line up behind Obama. They might profess to be behind Israel, but with the advisers we have already seen Obama has,and I am assuming the list would get worst, Israel will get sold down the river. I can't name one other democrat who has balls?

147 RickZ  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:57:50am

Maybe Carter will pick up the unfinished hitchhiker's tale and wear a wedding dress in Gaza.

148 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:57:56am

Realize, this is nothing more than him trying to rewrite a history from which he cannot escape.

I am sure, just as Bill Clinton, this man goes through his daily life knowing his history is set in stone. His legacy chomping at his bit, his attempts to legitimize his place in the annuls will never erase, nor cease.

His hatred for the American people who voted him out in favor of Reagan, he projects through the Carter Center by attempting to commander the so-called election process throughout the world, even in the event where a sacred democratic institution is defiled by those intent on killing it upon success.

He aims for the role of the United Nation's Geppetto.

He will never escape who he is.

149 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:58:14am

re: #137 firebreather

"Raped cattle...tied up electrodes to their genitals & turned up the power...lopped off their heads in a manner reminiscent of Geng-ghis Khan..."

Ah yes, the pseudo-Anglophile mis-pronouncing it as "Jennnghis".

150 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:59:03am

re: #142 Sifty

Somebody teach that ignorant somebitch Carter how to play golf or build model trains or some damn somethin'. He needs something to do with his time that won't get people killed.

I thought he was already building houses for Habitat for Humanity?
Do they let Jooos in those houses?
Fortunately, no one for that organization has directly asked me for money, or they'd get told that I have to support victims of terrorism in Israel because the asshole Carter make people think Arafat wasn't a terrorist and the Palis want peace with Israel. And I might not be as polite about it.

151 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:59:46am

[self-deleted]

I'm going to invoice the Carter Center for my blood pressure meds.

152 Biff  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:01am

If Obama gets nominated, will Joe jump aisles? That would be interesting.

153 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:27am

re: #151 littleoldlady

[self-deleted]

I'm going to invoice the Carter Center for my blood pressure meds.

Why don't they revoke his passport?

154 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:32am

re: #110 jjag

Carter suffers from the affliction, common among liberals, of being in love with the sound of his own voice.

In either his arrogance or his stupidity (or both) he imagines that reason can be accepted by people who have embraced a philosophy of wholesale murder to accomplish their goals. Any rational person would never conceive of "reasoning" with a murderer. Only someone with a delusional sense of superiority can believe that the mere dulcet sound of their voice and their "intelligent" structuring of argument can talk a beast out of devouring them.

This is insanity on an unimaginable level. But I suppose it is just yet another example of how liberals are completely incapable of understanding the existence of ruthlessness in some human being's nature.

Carter has evolved from a simple failure to become the epitome of evil; an "American" who coddles fiends, despots and butchers. Not satisfied for being reviled as just an incompetent president he, apparently, now wants to establish his credentials as the lowest form of public figure in American history.

You've just painted a portrait of a malignant narcissist.

155 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:36am

re: #152 Biff

If Obama gets nominated, will Joe jump aisles? That would be interesting.

He'll be sent to the re-education camps with the rest of us.

156 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:37am

I am still boggled (gobsmacked? confounded?) at why people take Carter (POSBUH) seriously. How can anyone watch the way he coddles dictators an see him as a beneficial force in the world?

No answers needed, I'm just asking the unanswerable.

157 Sifty  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:44am

re: #150 Kosh's Shadow

If Habitat for Insanity calls me, I'll tell them I sent all my money to the IDF to buy more D-9's.

158 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:49am

re: #150 Kosh's Shadow

I thought he was already building houses for Habitat for Humanity?
Do they let Jooos in those houses?

Would any self-respecting Jooo live in one?

159 firebreather  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:53am

Carter's favorite books:

1) The Motorcycle Diaries
2) The Communist Manifesto
3) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
4) Mein Kampf
5) Anything by Chomsky or Zinn

160 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:00:54am

jimmy carter is a psychopath.

161 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:01:26am

re: #157 Sifty

If Habitat for Insanity calls me, I'll tell them I sent all my money to the IDF to buy more D-9's.

Great answer!

162 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:01:32am

re: #153 goddessoftheclassroom

Why did Israel allow him to come?!

163 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:01:37am

re: #152 Biff

If Obama gets nominated, will Joe jump aisles? That would be interesting.

The talk is if the Dems get a larger majority in the senate, they will strip Liberman of his chairmanship of the Home Land Security committee. How Joe would react, who knows?

164 Alone in NY  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:01:54am

What a putz.

165 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:06am

re: #159 firebreather

Carter's favorite books:

1) The Motorcycle Diaries
2) The Communist Manifesto
3) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
4) Mein Kampf
5) Anything by Chomsky or Zinn

I get the sarcasm, but I would be surprised if he has the capacity to take any of those on.

166 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:14am

re: #129 Ward Cleaver

Fixed.

"John Kerry speaks French fluently. Democrats are saying he's one in a million. A war hero who speaks French, isn't it more like one in a trillion?" –Jay Leno

167 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:23am

re: #153 goddessoftheclassroom

Why don't they revoke his passport?

goddess! :-)

At the moment I am seeing colors, and his passport is the least of what I'd like to see revoked.

168 itellu3times  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:37am

I think it's a great idea Carter talks to Hamas.

I wish he would also grow a beard, start wearing a robe, and ride a camel.

169 Alone in NY  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:38am

Barry O can believe whatever he wants to. The question for the rest of us is whether someone who apparently has such hostility for this Country that he spends 20 years listening to Wright's Black Nationalism, and donates tens of thousands of dollars to his church, ought to be President of the United States. Its that simple.

170 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:46am

re: #154 MandyManners

Malignant narcissist?

171 bulwrk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:48am

Do they have a presidential suite at gitmo?

172 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:49am

re: #162 MandyManners

Why did Israel allow him to come?!

They did everything but short sheet his bed to let him know he was not welcome!

173 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:02:58am

re: #163 Nevergiveup

The talk is if the Dems get a larger majority in the senate, they will strip Liberman of his chairmanship of the Home Land Security committee. How Joe would react, who knows?

Well, the Dhimmicraps are stripping out homeland security anyway; we'll have open borders and open arms for those who would destroy us. And the people they'd let in.

174 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:27am

re: #107 MandyManners

Statutory law carries the same weight as case law.

There are lot's of old out moded laws on the still books. They are simply not enforced.

The technicalities of after 100+ years decided to enforce a never enforced law on Carter making a nonstarter. No prosecutor is going to try.

I'm not saying it's right. It's the system. It next to impossible to take a 100 year old never used law and prosecute someone.

Add rabbit bait's standing in the leftist world, he's a hero and the clamor over charging him would be horrendous.

175 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:29am

re: #162 MandyManners

Why did Israel allow him to come?!

Mandy! :-)

Shimon Peres - the used car salesman - and Jiminy are best buds.

176 Biff  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:45am

I'm saying that if Obama is nominated this summer, Joe will jump to the GOP for the fall term in the Senate, toppling all the Dem leadership for at least five months.

177 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:46am

re: #167 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

At the moment I am seeing colors, and his passport is the least of what I'd like to see revoked.

Seeing colors? Are you acid tripping again? What is in that fruitcup? Is there a mushroom in there?

/Good to see you in the light of day!

178 steveoh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:48am

re: #146 Nevergiveup

I understand, and other than Joe Liberman, it appears all the Democrats have and will line up behind Obama. They might profess to be behind Israel, but with the advisers we have already seen Obama has,and I am assuming the list would get worst, Israel will get sold down the river. I can't name one other democrat who has balls?

This is because they are all certain he will be the winner. Sad. They're all lining up for their cabinet positions, and invitations to the fundraisers ect. Politics as usual. And yes Israel will be sold down the river by this man.

However, Israel may finally have to face four years of going at it in their own way. I don't believe Kadima or of course Likud will listen to Obama if he is Prez.

And what are the consequences? World condemnation of Israel all the time. Oh I forgot that already takes place daily.

179 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:03:56am

re: #169 Alone in NY

Barry O can believe whatever he wants to. The question for the rest of us is whether someone who apparently has such hostility for this Country that he spends 20 years listening to Wright's Black Nationalism, and donates tens of thousands of dollars to his church, ought to be President of the United States. Its that simple.

He shouldn't even be senator.
On the other hand, I think he'd make a better president - of Iran.

180 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:04:08am

re: #162 MandyManners

Why did Israel allow him to come?!

Now that's a good question. Perhaps Israel could refuse to let him back in from Syria? That would be SWEET!

181 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:04:46am

re: #176 Biff

I'm saying that if Obama is nominated this summer, Joe will jump to the GOP for the fall term in the Senate, toppling all the Dem leadership for at least five months.

Never underestimate Chuck Hegal?

182 littleoldlady  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:04:54am

re: #177 coquimbojoe

/Good to see you in the light of day!

But in the darkest of moods. :-(

Joe! :-)

184 laZardo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:05:22am

1 AM and I has to sleep. G'night all!

185 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:06:17am

Jimmah wants to be the best at something. Unfortunately he will never be able to eclipse Benedict Arnold, so he is probably shit out of luck.

186 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:06:24am

re: #184 laZardo

1 AM and I has to sleep. G'night all!

Good night!

187 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:06:30am

re: #167 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

At the moment I am seeing colors, and his passport is the least of what I'd like to see revoked.

Better idea, let the United States Secret Service pull his protection detail.

188 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:06:45am

re: #150 Kosh's Shadow

I thought he was already building houses for Habitat for Humanity?
Do they let Jooos in those houses?
Fortunately, no one for that organization has directly asked me for money, or they'd get told that I have to support victims of terrorism in Israel because the asshole Carter make people think Arafat wasn't a terrorist and the Palis want peace with Israel. And I might not be as polite about it.

One of the things that amazes me about the Habitat for Humanity houses they build around here is that while every single thing used to build the house, the land it is built on and most of the labor is donated as a tax-deductable charitable expense, HFH still charges the new "homeowner" about $100,000 for that house (after their sweat equity). We knew some folks who got one a few years back - tiny lot, shoebox house and it would have cost just about that same $100,000 to build anyway. The explanation for why they pay so much was "so there would be money for the next folks."

BTW, locally not a single single or divorced mother has ever gotten a HFH house. The only single individual to receive one was a man with an 18 year old son whose wife had left him.

/You know how much of my time and $ they get, right? Just about as much as the American Red Cross and UNICEF.

189 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:06:53am

re: #178 steveoh

All true, but America has usually protected Israel in the UN with it's veto. I wouldn't count on President OB.... cough gag.. well can't seem to get that out, continuing that.

190 itellu3times  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:07:26am

Carter's an expert peanut farmer, and of course the peanut is actually a legume, which makes him an expert on whirled peas, 'nuff said.

I'm sure he's just over there selling them some of his nutter butter.

191 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:07:40am

re: #170 lawhawk

Malignant narcissist?

Nice one.

192 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:07:57am

re: #188 galloping granny

One of the things that amazes me about the Habitat for Humanity houses they build around here is that while every single thing used to build the house, the land it is built on and most of the labor is donated as a tax-deductable charitable expense, HFH still charges the new "homeowner" about $100,000 for that house (after their sweat equity). We knew some folks who got one a few years back - tiny lot, shoebox house and it would have cost just about that same $100,000 to build anyway. The explanation for why they pay so much was "so there would be money for the next folks."

BTW, locally not a single single or divorced mother has ever gotten a HFH house. The only single individual to receive one was a man with an 18 year old son whose wife had left him.

/You know how much of my time and $ they get, right? Just about as much as the American Red Cross and UNICEF.

Nope, he's doing Habitat for Hamas now...

193 hayseed  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:08:01am

Barack Obama took a stab at Hillary Clinton on Monday, saying a widely-circulated photo of her tossing back a shot of Crown Royal doesn’t make her a woman of the people

a shot and a beer....yeee ha

/

195 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:08:51am

re: #192 Dustyvet

Nope, he's doing Habitat for Hamas now...

Do those come with missile launcher rooms?

196 Iron Fist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:08:52am

re: #192 Dustyvet,

Habitat for Inhumanity?

197 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:09:06am

re: #175 littleoldlady

Mandy! :-)

Shimon Peres - the used car salesman - and Jiminy are best buds.

So what!

198 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:09:09am

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

re: #44 hayseed

I can't believe I voted for this twit in my youth

Don't kick yourselves too hard. The MSM did an incredibly poor job of vetting Carter and exposing the falsehoods in his background. Plus you had the MSM trying to convince the American public that Ford was dumb. If going to Yale law school makes you dumb, I can think of a couple other good candidates for dumbness.

199 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:09:28am

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

Do those come with missile launcher rooms?

Only the 2 donkey garage models.

201 steveoh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:11am

re: #189 Nevergiveup

All true, but America has usually protected Israel in the UN with it's veto. I wouldn't count on President OB.... cough gag.. well can't seem to get that out, continuing that.

And these UN resolutions that may now pass (gag) will do what? Oh, International condemnations of Israel in the form of useless UN resolutions. The Un and their funny blue hats will only become target practice for Nassrallah.

But you're right it will suck.

202 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:11am

re: #182 littleoldlady

But in the darkest of moods. :-(

Joe! :-)

Yeah, me too. And Jimmah (POSBUH) isn't helping.

203 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:20am

re: #199 Nevergiveup

Only the 2 donkey garage models.

With Carter and the others, they'll need more than a 2 ass garage.

204 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:44am

re: #180 goddessoftheclassroom

Now that's a good question. Perhaps Israel could refuse to let him back in from Syria? That would be SWEET!

And, logical.

205 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:49am
HAMAS INDICTMENT [Andy McCarthy]
The Justice Department's shellacking of Hamas continued today with a historic indictment. Last month, DOJ indicted Hamas's American funding arm -- the purported "charitable" organization known as the Holy Land Foundation. (See). Today, in a historic indictment, DOJ used the RICO statute to brand Hamas a criminal-racketeering enterprise, and charged three defendants -- Muhammad Hamid Khalil Salah, of suburban Chicago, Abdelhaleem Hasan Abdelraziq Ashqar, of suburban Washington, D.C., and, most significantly, Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook, a former U.S. resident who currently resides in Damascus, Syria -- with participating in a 15-year conspiracy to finance suicide bombings and other terrorist activities. Marzook is formerly chief and now deputy chief of the Hamas Political Bureau, which functions as the highest-ranking leadership body in the Hamas organization.

The indictment was obtained by Chicago U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald. Currently, Pat is best known nationally as the independent prosecutor chosen by Attorney General Ashcroft to investigate the Valerie Plame leak. In New York though, he spent years investigating al Qaeda, obtained the original indictments against bin Laden, successfully prosecuted the bombers of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and was my partner on the Blind Sheik case back in 1995, among many other things. This is a great day for counter-terrorism. The indictment is here.
Posted at 04:45 PM

206 ROPMA  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:10:56am

Is Carter trying to get the VP nomination?

207 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:11:10am

After doing some sleuthing, I really have to hand it to Jimmy Carter: what with his being a double agent, and all for America and Israel.

I found out that President Carter has been actually working as a shill for the US and Israeli government so that Hamas will open up to him about all their secret plans. President Carter then passes this info on to the Israeli government and US interests abroad.

Those dumb Hamas guys don't even know what's going on!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

...and everyone on down in Israel is playing this for all its worth!

I love it.

'course, President Carter's **** is dependent on Hamas never finding out that Carter is playing them for dopes and selling them out to their despised enemies, the Jews.

But I'm sure we can keep this secret to ourselves, right LGF lizards?

That's what I thought.

~ENT

208 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:11:35am

re: #187 Dustyvet

Better idea, let the United States Secret Service pull his protection detail.

We're PAYING for that fucker's protection?

209 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:00am

re: #187 Dustyvet

Better idea, let the United States Secret Service pull his protection detail.

IDF said they won't work with the SS while he is there.

This might get verrrrrryyyyyy interesting.

~ENT

210 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:14am

PIMF: Shin Bet.

Sorry.

211 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:17am
212 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:35am

re: #193 hayseed

Barack Obama took a stab at Hillary Clinton on Monday, saying a widely-circulated photo of her tossing back a shot of Crown Royal doesn’t make her a woman of the people

a shot and a beer....yeee ha

/

Maybe not, and I hate to defend Hillary Clinton, but her Grandpa was a bonafide immigrant who worked at a lace factory in Pennsylvania. Blue collar roots the girl has got, quite some different than Obama's.

213 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:45am

re: #188 galloping granny

The American Red Cross is a separate entity from the International Red Cross, and at least in my area, spend their funds locally and provide tremendous emergency support.

214 bulwrk  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:12:57am

re: #208 MandyManners

Of course as an ex- president he has a lifetime detail.

215 The Other Les  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:13:06am

re: #185 maddogg

Jimmah wants to be the best at something. Unfortunately he will never be able to eclipse Benedict Arnold, so he is probably shit out of luck.

Benedict Arnold married the wrong woman. (Not a lady but I won't use the word that rhymes with runt.)

Jimmy is just a bit touched in the head.

216 godfrey  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:13:18am

Here's someone Hamas killed: Shiri Negarin.

I'm sure Jimmy will be tough on her killers.

*spit*

217 mpw280  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:13:25am

Is it me or does he look like Palpatine, just before he uses the dark force lightning and turns old. mpw

218 Peacekeeper  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:13:29am

He goes out to the desert and they show him all the kingdoms of of the Earth, his if only he will worship...

219 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:13:55am

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

Oh so Sophist icated,


Sophist:
One skilled in elaborate and devious argumentation.

The
serpent
was
subtle

220 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:14:28am

re: #201 steveoh

And these UN resolutions that may now pass (gag) will do what? Oh, International condemnations of Israel in the form of useless UN resolutions. The Un and their funny blue hats will only become target practice for Nassrallah.

But you're right it will suck.

Some UN resolutions are BINDING--as in sanctions and trade boycotts. Now I doubt it would come to that, but it wasn't that long ago the President Ford embargoed some fighter planes for a while that were due to be delivered to Israel. Some roads are better never traveled down!

221 reaganyouth  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:14:38am
222 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:14:41am

re: #214 bulwrk

Of course as an ex- president he has a lifetime detail.

Where's my Basil?

223 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:02am

What he says:
“I hope then the Israeli government will deign to meet with me — "

is just so full of false humility - it makes one spit.

224 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:02am

re: #208 MandyManners

We're PAYING for that fucker's protection?

Yes, all retired presidents get it as well as their wives.

225 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:17am

re: #208 MandyManners

We're PAYING for that fucker's protection?

Fraid so...

226 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:23am

re: #137 firebreather

"Raped cattle...tied up electrodes to their genitals & turned up the power...lopped off their heads in a manner reminiscent of Geng-ghis Khan..."

'You said rape twice."
"I like rape."
/Blazing Saddles!

227 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:23am

re: #208 MandyManners

We're PAYING for that fucker's protection?

Oh sure. We pay for his Secret Service detail, all of his security arrangements (including a bunch of modifications to his house/s), pay him as much in "retirement" $ as the current POTUS, and we pay for all the security anywhere he travels.

228 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:15:25am

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey


I just spent the weekend being marinated in Jewish liberalism. Jewish democrats are, in terms of religious practice, barely Jews at all. They know virtually nothing about their religion other than the most attenuated vestiges of practice, and are eager to explain why their "modern" social attitudes are more valid than anything else.


May I assume they were unable to dissuade you from your ability to think?

230 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:16:17am

re: #138 Peacekeeper

Uh-oh

Tectonic indigestion - break out the Tums!

231 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:17:00am

re: #227 galloping granny

Oh sure. We pay for his Secret Service detail, all of his security arrangements (including a bunch of modifications to his house/s), pay him as much in "retirement" $ as the current POTUS, and we pay for all the security anywhere he travels.


Our Tax Dollars at work....:(

232 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:17:02am

re: #216 godfrey

Here's someone Hamas killed: Shiri Negarin.

I'm sure Jimmy will be tough on her killers.

*spit*

Oh~!

Please don't bring up stuff like this, Godfrey.

It makes me insanely angry....and I have to meet with people later today.

Thanks.

~ENT

233 victor_yugo  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:17:20am

re: #208 MandyManners

We're PAYING for that fucker's protection?

It's our atonement for having elected him in the first place.

234 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:17:50am

re: #227 galloping granny

Oh sure. We pay for his Secret Service detail, all of his security arrangements (including a bunch of modifications to his house/s), pay him as much in "retirement" $ as the current POTUS, and we pay for all the security anywhere he travels.

I'm waiting for his parade. I wont mind paying for that.

235 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:18:08am

U. South Florida Professor Arrested on Charges of Terrorism


In Sept. 2002, Al-Arian appeared at a free-speech rally at Georgia Tech, denouncing his accusers for racial and religious profiling and declared, “I will do my best to make sure free speech and academic freedom will win the day.” In a subsequent Atlanta Journal-Constitution interview, he “vehemently denied” that charity funds managed for orphans were actually going to Islamic Jihad and HAMAS. Al-Arian went on to compare himself to the outspoken American Patrick Henry in reference to his ‘pro-Palestinian’ statements and berated those investigating him for confusing “zealotry with patriotism.”

236 gymnast  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:18:16am

Look at the positive side. Nero and Caligula held office for life. Carter only lasted one term.

237 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:18:30am

re: #220 Nevergiveup

Some UN resolutions are BINDING--as in sanctions and trade boycotts. Now I doubt it would come to that, but it wasn't that long ago the President Ford embargoed some fighter planes for a while that were due to be delivered to Israel. Some roads are better never traveled down!

Some UN resolutions may be binding, but we have recently seen just exactly how much those binding resolutions mean if no one bothers to follow them.

238 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:18:33am

re: #153 goddessoftheclassroom

Why don't they revoke his passport?

I say let him go over there as a private citizen - no Secret Service protection. See how far he gets.

239 Ornery Ballsack  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:18:45am

re: #215 The Other Les

Benedict Arnold's actions both as a Naval Commander on Lake Champlain preventing the British from linking up and destroying the fledgling US forces before the winter and his heroic actions on the battlefield of Saratoga were instrumental in the United States winning our freedom from the crown. His wife, however, did rhyme with runt.

240 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:19:07am

So am I correct that April fools day has now been officially renamed to Jimmy Carter day?

241 jjag  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:19:16am

re: #154 MandyManners


"You've just painted a portrait of a malignant narcissist."

Funny you should note that. I've had a couple of encounters with "malignant narcissists" over the years and thought that I had a pretty good ability to identify them. I probably didn't pick it up with Carter because he doesn't lie quite prolifically as say, a Bill Clinton type narcissist.

But I agree. Carter is just that. Thank you for this insight.

242 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:20:13am

re: #215 The Other Les

Benedict Arnold married the wrong woman. (Not a lady but I won't use the word that rhymes with runt.)

Jimmy is just a bit touched in the head.

Arnold was poorly treated by the Continental Congress and some of his colleges, which is what pushed him to the British.

Jimmah was unceremoniously turned out of office at the earliest opportunity by a huge majority of the voters. So he has gone over to the enemy.

Similar circumstances breed similar outcomes with similar personalities, don't you think?

243 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:20:16am

re: #237 galloping granny

Some UN resolutions may be binding, but we have recently seen just exactly how much those binding resolutions mean if no one bothers to follow them.

If Israel were ever sanctioned, you can bet the house the world would hermetically seal Israel's borders! I guarantee that!

244 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:22:49am

re: #152 Biff

If Obama gets nominated, will Joe jump aisles? That would be interesting.

Perhaps Joe will be this year's Zell Miller.

245 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:23:48am

re: #229 BabbaZee

On March 10,2005, after a five-week trial, a jury in Brooklyn, New York, convicted two
Yemeni citizens, Mohammed Ali Hasan Al-Moayad and Mohsen Yahya Zayed, of conspiring to
provide material support to a1 Qaeda and Hamas, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 2339B. They were both
found guilty of attempting to provide material support to Hamas.
Al-Moayad was also convicted
of providing material support to Hamas and attempting to provide material support to a1 Qaeda.

Now find a prosecutor will seek an indictment against St. Rabbit Bait.

In a just world State would yank Bait's passport and slap travel restrictions on his ass.

246 gymnast  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:24:31am

re: #236 gymnast

Look at the positive side. Nero and Caligula held office for life. Carter only lasted one term.

Only problem is, when Nero and Caligula were finished, they were dead. Carter is only brain dead as far.

247 RickZ  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:24:56am

re: #236 gymnast

Look at the positive side. Nero and Caligula held office for life. Carter only lasted one term.

Yeah, well, look what happened to Caligula. And Nero committed suicide, another misunderstood artist. We still have Carter screwing up even after he left office all those years ago. Not much of a bargain as far as I can see. Where's the Praetorian Guard when you them?

248 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:26:58am

re: #246 gymnast

Only problem is, when Nero and Caligula were finished, they were dead. Carter is only brain dead as far.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

A trip of a thousand miles begins with one step.

...and so on.

~ENT

249 Clutch  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:27:55am

I sure hope that Jimmuh don't trip on a rock or somethin' over there, fall and hit his head and rattle his poor li'l ol' peanut-brain. Might make him stupid* or somethin'...

*like THAT would be possible, can't see how he could get any worse...

Jimmuh Carter, Stuck On Stupid Since Seventy-Six.

250 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:28:45am
251 realwest  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:29:22am

WTF is this: "But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.” NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.
He is a private US Citizen and is bound by US law just as much as anyone else is.
Last I checked, Hamas was still on the "Terrorist" list that we maintain and the Logan Act and other laws about treason and dealing with an enemy of the United States apply.
Carter's narcissism is exceeded only by his stupidity.

252 anvir_777  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:29:49am

Mista' KKKatahr', when you go, I will be throwing a party to celebrate the day. A more 3 faced, lying, anti-semite who gets attentions wholey and completely undeserved I can not think of. I still think he is a closet-nazi.

253 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:30:46am

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

I just spent the weekend being marinated in Jewish liberalism. Jewish democrats are, in terms of religious practice, barely Jews at all. They know virtually nothing about their religion other than the most attenuated vestiges of practice, and are eager to explain why their "modern" social attitudes are more valid than anything else.

I've known some very observant Jews who were a far left wing as anything you could possibly imagine.

254 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:36:02am
255 TalkinKamel  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:37:51am

I thought private citizens weren't allowed to negotiate with, or practice diplomacy with, terrorist groups, or, indeed, any foreign power.

(I suspect Hamas may have promised Jimmuh he gets to be caliph of America, or something, after they "conquer the two Americas" as they've threatened.)

256 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:39:31am

re: #250 buzzsawmonkey

Now, thats depressing. So it appears moonbattery is a terminal disease. How fortunate that some who post here got "the cure" before the disease became chronic:)

BTW, I know what you mean by "reflexive ingrained habit " My
grandmother continued to vote Democrat many years after the party no longer came close to representing her or her beliefs. She never even paid any attention to the rhetoric. She continued to believe that the Democratic party was the same party it was during WWII. No amount of argument or reason would dent her belief.

257 steveoh  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:42:59am

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

Entirely possible; there are some deluded souls in my own Orthodox congregation who are supporting Obama. And my sister, who is not observant, is conservative.

But while the split does not occur cleanly along the lines of observance/lack of observance, for the most part the less observant Jews are, the more liberal they tend to be. And the Jews who are involved in Conservative and, even more, Reform congregations tend, as a rule, to have substituted liberal pieties for religious knowledge and observance. That is not true across the board, of course--but it is far more true than I wish it were.

Jewish or not the question really is, has said person adopted the value system of old school liberalism. Has it become a substitute for their own religious or even secular humanist beliefs.

I mean how in the world do Liberals these days justify their support for Hezbollah by just taking part in Anti-war rallies ect. It's virtually impossible for them to understand they are supporting more terror and killing and vilification and torture of women ect. ect.

People hold on desperately when their paradigms begin to collapse.

258 BabbaZee  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:45:57am

CONSPIRACY TO AID AND ABET TERRORISM

that's what I was looking for


Resolution 1373 (2001)

Reaffirming its unequivocal condemnation of the terrorist acts that took place in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania on 11 September, the Security Council this evening unanimously adopted a wide-ranging, comprehensive resolution with steps and strategies to combat international terrorism.


By resolution 1373 (2001) the Council also established a Committee of the Council to monitor the resolution’s implementation and called on all States to report on actions they had taken to that end no later than 90 days from today.

Under terms of the text, the Council decided that all States should prevent and suppress the financing of terrorism, as well as criminalize the wilful provision or collection of funds for such acts. The funds, financial assets and economic resources of those who commit or attempt to commit terrorist acts or participate in or facilitate the commission of terrorist acts and of persons and entities acting on behalf of terrorists should also be frozen without delay.

The Council also decided that States should prohibit their nationals or persons or entities in their territories from making funds, financial assets, economic resources, financial or other related services available to persons who commit or attempt to commit, facilitate or participate in the commission of terrorist acts. States should also refrain from providing any form of support to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts; take the necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist acts; deny safe haven to those who finance, plan, support, commit terrorist acts and provide safe havens as well.

By other terms, the Council decided that all States should prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other countries and their citizens. States should also ensure that anyone who has participated in the financing, planning, preparation or perpetration of terrorist acts or in supporting terrorist acts is brought to justice. They should also ensure that terrorist acts are established as serious criminal offences in domestic laws and regulations and that the seriousness of such acts is duly reflected in sentences served.

By further terms, the Council decided that States should afford one another the greatest measure of assistance for criminal investigations or criminal proceedings relating to the financing or support of terrorist acts. States should

also prevent the movement of terrorists or their groups by effective border controls as well.

Also by the text, the Council called on all States to intensify and accelerate the exchange of information regarding terrorist actions or movements; forged or falsified documents; traffic in arms and sensitive material; use of communications and technologies by terrorist groups; and the threat posed by the possession of weapons of mass destruction.

States were also called on to exchange information and cooperate to prevent and suppress terrorist acts and to take action against the perpetrators of such acts. States should become parties to, and fully implement as soon as possible, the relevant international conventions and protocols to combat terrorism.

By the text, before granting refugee status, all States should take appropriate measures to ensure that the asylum seekers had not planned, facilitated or participated in terrorist acts. Further, States should ensure that refugee status was not abused by the perpetrators, organizers or facilitators of terrorist acts, and that claims of political motivation were not recognized as grounds for refusing requests for the extradition of alleged terrorists.

259 razorbacker  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:46:01am

Poor benighted fellow. "Lust in his heart" is the least of his problems.

Who knew that Billy would be the bright Carter?

260 jtlevitsky  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:46:39am

Let me get this straight- if labeling Hamas a terrorist is counterproductive, how can Jimmy justify calling Isreal an Apartheid state in the title of his book? He should go back to peanut farming and swigging Billy Beer...

261 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:47:50am

re: #260 jtlevitsky

Let me get this straight- if labeling Hamas a terrorist is counterproductive, how can Jimmy justify calling Isreal an Apartheid state in the title of his book? He should go back to peanut farming and swigging Billy Beer...


Would you believe I still have an unopened 6-pack of Billy Beer?

262 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:51:49am

re: #261 maddogg

Would you believe I still have an unopened 6-pack of Billy Beer?

Let's meet Rabbit Bait at the airport and spray him with it.

263 iowavette  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:52:49am

I had a few things to say about "Jimma" but many of the posters already covered those bases.

In the meantime, I had a notion while walking to the second of serial meetings this morning: McCain/Cheney. That works for me.

264 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:53:49am

re: #262 jcm

Let's meet Rabbit Bait at the airport and spray him with it.

I have something else I would much rather spray him with, so lets drink the beer about 30 minutes before he lands.

265 looking closely  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:54:43am

Look, as a private citizen Carter can talk to or meet with whomever he wants.

The Logan act is good (and IMO still enforceable), but I don't see how it applies here. If Carter wants to be chummy with Islamist murderers that's his own problem. He's erasing any positive "legacy" he might have had (and there is very little there to erase).

The Bush administration should simply call out Carter, saying in no unclear terms that he's speaking for nobody but himself, and that he's hurting the United States *AND* his own image by talking to bloodthirsty terrorists.

Implying or saying outright that he's a doddering old man who should have gotten out of the game of statecraft decades ago, would be welcome, but the administration has way too much class to actually do it.

266 jcm  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:55:45am

re: #264 maddogg

I have something else I would much rather spray him with, so lets drink the beer about 30 minutes before he lands.

LOL!

Is there is difference betting Billy Beer and what you have in mind? ;-P

267 maddogg  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:00:00am

re: #266 jcm

LOL!

Is there is difference betting Billy Beer and what you have in mind? ;-P

Well, since it has been unrefrigeated for around 30 years, probably not much :)

268 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:01:02am
269 looking closely  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:01:12am

re: #260 jtlevitsky

Let me get this straight- if labeling Hamas a terrorist [organization] is counterproductive, how can Jimmy justify calling Isreal an Apartheid state in the title of his book? He should go back to peanut farming and swigging Billy Beer...


This begs the question of whom exactly Carter would be comfortable calling "terrorist".

Is there anyone?

Anyone this guy would NOT break bread with? By analogy, would he be uncomfortable, for example, having lunch and a photo-op with Charles Manson or OJ Simpson?

Carter still hasn't gotten it through his head that meeting with a President (or even ex-President) is something to earned. Sharing a stage with criminals and terrorists just gives them legitimacy and strengthens them.

270 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:01:27am
271 Cpt. Disco  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:02:53am

re: #36 BabbaZee

I gave you a +1 for the George Bailey reference. Nice work!

272 Render  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:03:32am

Mr. Carter...

When the aging process has run its eventual course with you...

I will shit on your grave.

WAITING,
R

273 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:04:08am
274 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:06:13am

re: #230 Cygnus

Tectonic indigestion - break out the Tums!

Might be labor pains. The sea floor may be getting ready to give birth to new island. Remember Surtsey?

275 selpaw  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:11:42am

My Two Cents on Carter:

In one breath he proclaims "Qassam rockets a crime" while in the next he enables the Palestinian war machine.

Either way, Jews/Israel still remain the black sheep whores for those who choose to give one impression of caring yet portray something completely different by their bankrupt, self-serving salacious actions.

The only difference is he does it out in the open! One knows exactly where he stands.

What we see Carter doing is nothing new. It is just that he is so damn hateful and arrogant that he stands out more overtly. Goodness, even Peres refused to meet with him.

Bottom line for me, I have just lived through almost 8 years of bait and switch, I am your friend, reward for terror for all the very wrong worst reasons. It was all a lie.........

Israel is worth more than a crumb of bread here a crumb there and only when you play the game the way we want you to. I don't know any other democracy which has had to bend and scrape the way Israel has had to. AND FOR WHAT? Another crumb of bread with restrictions first!

276 AuntAcid  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:12:20am

re: #272 Render

Mr. Carter...

When the aging process has run its eventual course with you...

I will shit on your grave.

WAITING,
R

Here a poop, there a poop, everywhere a poop, poop.

278 antishock8  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:12:46am

Treason. Aiding and abetting a listed terrorist organization that is a self-declared enemy of America is treason. That's that.

279 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:13:09am

He is also the worst EX PRESIDENT in the history of the USA.re: #24 x-ray

280 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:15:02am

re: #40 just another four-letter wordwho also resembles a frog with those lips!

281 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:17:27am

re: #265 looking closely
Unfortunately there are columnists in the USA - including the vile Robert Novak - who make all kinds of excuses for the Palis and the terrorist lovers.

282 selpaw  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:25:04am

and #275 another thing.........

It is high time we stop making a differentiation between Hamas and the "Moderate Courageous Man of Peace", Abbas and his party of terrorists.
It is a disservice to Israel to do such a thing.

It is a bold face lie. Hamas like Carter just is out in the open. When push comes to shove terror from the West Bank is identical to the terror from Gaza and if Abbas wanted he could finish it .


For all to see.......yet for most WHO KNOW BETTER to completely ignore!

New Abbas / Fatah Poster Shows Israel As Palestine, Next To Rifle And Arafat

Abbas: We May Return To Armed Struggle -- I Taught Resistance To Hizbullah

PA TV Continues To Promote Israel's Destruction While PA's Abbas Claims In English To Accept Israel

This is just three examples of thousands to prove who Abbas is and what he represents. ENOUGH OF THE CHARADE!

ZOA Applauds Senators Specter, Wyden, and Casey for Senate Resolution Calling on Abbas to Cancel His Fatah Party's Constitution Calling for: Terror, and Israel's "Demolition"

283 AZDave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:46:18am
Everyone from the State Department to the mayor of rocket-besieged Sderot in Israel has been trying to tell Jimmy Carter that he’s making a very serious mistake by having a high-profile meeting with Hamas thug Khaled Meshaal.

He has no choice. "Shit-for-brains" Carter has already sold his soul to the Arabs. I wonder how much the Arabs will contribute to the Carter Center (for the Destruction of Israel) after this trip?

284 AZDave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:53:57am

re: #57 firebreather

Strictly a Jew-hating, America-hating, Israel-hating Leftist who never met a terrorist he didn't fall in love with.

He'd sit down w/bin Laden, KSM & Ramsey Clark & wax nostalgic about 9/11 if he could.

What makes you think he hasn't?

285 AZDave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 11:58:12am

re: #69 Golem Akbar

President Carter is the reason I am no longer a democrat. [the party left me, I didn't leave the party]

It was Bill "Couldn't tell the truth if my life depended on it" Clinton for me.

286 AZDave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 12:04:35pm

re: #90 anubis_soundwave

Isn't he endangering his Secret Service detail by doing this?

Does he really care?

287 AZDave  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #97 steveoh

Jimmy Carter hates Jews deeply but hates Israel even more. He is still furious over what he perceived to be Menachem Begin's broken promise to freeze settlement activity in Judea and Samaria.

He has an old grudge to square and he won't rest until he feels it's accomplished.

He has also received millions in "donations from multiple Israel hating States, political organizations and individuals. He's bought and pais for, and doing what he wants and loves to do!

Fixed!

288 Clutch  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 1:10:35pm

And now for an golden moldy oldie from the days when we had this putz for prezzy-dint.

Q. Why is it that when Jimmuh and Rosslyn have sex, Rosslyn is always on top?
A. Because Jimmuh can only f*ck up!

Here's another...
Q. What does the Key Bridge and Jimmuh Carter have in common?
A. They both go in and out of Rosslyn!
(Rosslyn also being a Virgina suburb right across the river fro DC, for those of you not familiar with the lay of the land...did I just type that?!?)

I wish I still had my old Penthouse magazines from around that time. There were some savage cartoons in one of them that went after Jimmuh; one being a rather large male organ that had a definite peanut shell pattern to it. At the end where you would normally find the balls was Jimmuh's grinning rictus, with the heading "I just want to stick the tip in"; methinks that there was more to the cartoon than that, but I did not buy Playboy or Penthouse in those days to read the articles. I had other gripping matters at hand...heyyyyy, just who in the hell is typing this stuff?!? :-)

289 bosforus  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 1:39:02pm

Doesn't Carter understand he's not a politician anymore, just a symbol of idiocy?

290 MikeyHunt  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 1:41:01pm

The best thing Jimmy Carter should do, is to wear a GPS Tracking device to those terrorist meetings

291 aaron's rantblog  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 2:12:18pm

I fear that 20 years from now, Dubya may be doing essentially the same thing, shilling for the Wahhabists who will be enriching his family investments, though probably an order of magnitude less evil than Klansman Dhimmi Carter.

292 Roger  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 2:21:58pm

re: #291 aaron's rantblog

Bingo!

293 Maui Girl  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 3:09:23pm

If Jimmy Carter is now considered a private citizen, why do our tax dollars still pay for his protection? I know, I know....he's an ex-president first, private citizen second.

Something tells me that the Secret Service currently assigned to him is eagerly awaiting Sir Jimmy's cross-over into the white light, however that may occur.

294 Maui Girl  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 3:12:35pm

Abbas is just another Arafat, only with a suit!

295 xleatherneck  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 3:16:27pm

[....spit]

That about sums up my feelings for this worthless piece of shit....

296 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 4:04:13pm

re: #290 MikeyHunt

The best thing Jimmy Carter should do, is to wear a GPS Tracking device to those terrorist meetings

Make him Swallow it...

297 orifice  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 4:11:43pm

somebody put that peanut farmer in a rest home please!

298 nadadhimmi  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 6:52:13pm

re: #18 Iron Fist

Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

Surely you jest. Aren't you aware that his anti-american, anti-semitic hatred endemnifies him against all charges? Especially when the internationalist, Bush the younger is in office. BOTH are traitors, different methods, same goal, the destruction of United States national power and independance.

299 Western Chauvinist  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 6:59:02pm

I've read a lot of exceedingly insulting and even vulgar things about Carter in this thread. Now, I dislike and disrespect the man as much as the next lizard (and I confess I voted for him when he lost to Reagan - thank God!), but I think it only fair to recognize that the man (sanctimonious jerk that he is) believes he is doing some good in the world. He's a "peace-maker". I just wish some U.S. official would firmly explain to him that, as ex-president and private citizen, he doesn't get to decide or exercise authority in U.S. foreign policy.

He can apply for the "negotiator" position just as soon as Obama becomes president. God forbid.

300 J.S.  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 7:32:52pm

Glenn Beck's program tonight (not hosted by Glenn tonight) had an informative interview...one with Jed Babbin... who said (not quoting verbatim), that NEVER in the history of the United States has a former president gone off unilaterally to talk with enemies (that's terrorists) -- NEVER. Another interviewee noted that Jimmy Carter is the foremost Antisemite now spreading all sorts of noxious views of Israelis and Jews around the globe...the most Prominent Antisemite around -- excluding, of course, all those RoP "preachers" and "Nation of Islam" people...

301 UncleSam  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:43:17pm

Hasn't he already done enough damage?
We wouldn't be having all this trouble with Islamist terrorists if Carter hadn't abandoned the Shah of Iran and arranged for the return of Khomeini and the establishment of the terrorist state of Iran.
What a horrible piece of crap this thing is.

302 Aristogiton  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 9:57:13pm

re: #299 Western Chauvinist

I've just used the new "tag" features Charles coded into the site, and clicking the tags for "Jimmy Carter" and "Khaled Meshaal", to name only two, I experienced in summary Carter's unswerving gift for bad judgment.

So what if he "believes he is doing some good in the world"? Nobody who displays this kind of indifference to evidence cares what fact-finding means. Everything he does strengthens dangerous people in positions of power, and endangers innocent people not just in the U.S., but everywhere in the world.

When I track the work of Jimmy Carter's foreign policy and his Carter Center, I experience the vertigo of his good intentions, the never-ending horror of sympathy he has for the worst people on earth.

In a just world, a U.S. court would issue a restraining order against the man from Plains, preventing him from practicing any form of diplomacy anywhere in the world.

303 Scottcs  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 10:35:58pm

Nothing, I mean nothing says "loser" like Jimmah

304 steveoh  Tue, Apr 15, 2008 4:48:45am

re: #287 AZDave

What's wrong with knowing why he hates Jews. There's talk here about his racist family and own racist background. Lets just keep every comment to every thread Charles puts up to three words. Blank hates Jews.

True but a tad childish wouldn't you say. Thanks for all the cross outs.

305 AZDave  Tue, Apr 15, 2008 11:48:48pm

re: #304 steveoh

What's wrong with knowing why he hates Jews. There's talk here about his racist family and own racist background. Lets just keep every comment to every thread Charles puts up to three words. Blank hates Jews.

True but a tad childish wouldn't you say. Thanks for all the cross outs.

My pleasure. Didn't know the truth in any form was childish. Learn something new every day.


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