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Jimmy Carter: Public Relations Go-To Guy for Hamas

Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:24:11 am PST

Everyone from the State Department to the mayor of rocket-besieged Sderot in Israel has been trying to tell Jimmy Carter that he’s making a very serious mistake by having a high-profile meeting with Hamas thug Khaled Meshaal. But Jimmy doesn’t want to hear it: Carter wants US talks with Hamas.

AIRPORT CITY, Israel - Former President Jimmy Carter said he hoped to help open talks between Hamas and U.S. leaders, saying Washington’s policy of not meeting with people it labeled terrorists was counterproductive.

He angered Israelis with his plans to meet in Syria this week with the leader of the Islamist group, which rules Gaza and is largely responsible for rocket fire against Israeli towns. Hamas has killed some 250 Israelis in suicide bombings and has been blacklisted by the U.S. and Israel as a terrorist organization.

Speaking at an event organized by an Israeli financial newspaper, Carter said he wanted to become a “communicator” between Hamas and the U.S. “I hope then the Israeli government will deign to meet with me — they have so far refused,” he said.

State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that the U.S. has “made clear our views that we did not think now is the moment for him or anyone to be talking with Hamas.” Casey said any meeting with Hamas officials is “something we’ve counseled against. But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”

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1 Honorary Yooper  4/14/08 9:25:32 am reply quote 0

Nice picture.

2 MrSilverDragon  4/14/08 9:25:34 am reply quote 0

Bush had it right... "Increasingly Irrelevant."

3 The Other Les  4/14/08 9:25:43 am reply quote 2

Would the Light-Bringer please call him home?

4 WriterMom  4/14/08 9:25:52 am reply quote 9

Despciable Jew-hater, terrorist enabler. Rot of soul so deep and so foul it's hard to put into words.

5 Dustyvet  4/14/08 9:26:08 am reply quote 9

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

6 laZardo  4/14/08 9:26:10 am reply quote 0
7 Oh no...Sand People!  4/14/08 9:26:11 am reply quote 0

There was a job I once worked at and we got in a conversation about "Dhimmi Carter"...
The main GM stated, "Jimmy Carter is a VERY moral man."

I openly burst out laughing and asked, "You mean immoral, right?"

The room went deathly quiet...no wonder I lasted there for about 2 months longer after that one.

8 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:26:12 am reply quote 6
State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that the U.S. has “made clear our views that we did not think now is the moment for him or anyone to be talking with Hamas.” Casey said any meeting with Hamas officials is “something we’ve counseled against. But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”

Is it not still illegal to commiserate with a state designated terror organization?

It's all bullshit
If they wanted to stop him
they could stop him.

9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  4/14/08 9:26:13 am reply quote 17

Obviously Jimmy doesn't know about the Hamas Killer rabbit program.

10 zmdavid  4/14/08 9:26:51 am reply quote 0
Hamas has killed some 250 Israelis in suicide bombings and has been blacklisted by the U.S. and Israel as a terrorist organization.


Blacklisting? How mean!
/

11 Honorary Yooper  4/14/08 9:26:56 am reply quote 5

re: #5 Dustyvet

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

Remove the "Howdy", and I think you've got it.

12 chinesearithmetic  4/14/08 9:26:59 am reply quote 0

Pimp's in the crib.

13 buzzsawmonkey  4/14/08 9:27:45 am reply quote 5

Jimmy is trying to be Dr. Doolittle. He wants to walk with the animals, talk with the animals.

14 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:27:49 am reply quote 3

Hamas 101
(Jimmah's Terrorists)

Fatah 101
(GWB's Terrorists)

15 jmuren  4/14/08 9:28:12 am reply quote 4

Only someone on the left could meet with, against the wishes of the State Department, a terrorist organization and be feted by the media instead of arrested on his return.

16 pig farmer  4/14/08 9:28:18 am reply quote 1

Jimmah is a disgusting piece of sh*t--when, oh when, is our State Department going to curtail his treasonous activities?

17 BingoBunny  4/14/08 9:28:28 am reply quote 2

He kept some shrapnel from Israel.. no word if he asked for a piece with blood on it.

18 Iron Fist  4/14/08 9:28:34 am reply quote 12
But he is a private citizen, and it certainly is his decision.”


Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

19 Dustyvet  4/14/08 9:28:36 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Dustyvet

Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?

[Link: www.doodyville.com...]

20 crown_of_feathers  4/14/08 9:28:42 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Dustyvet

"Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?"

LOL!

Howdy Doodie had more going on inside his head, though.

21 jcm  4/14/08 9:28:43 am reply quote 1

Anything I posted at this point about dhimmi would get me banned.

22 Milk Toast Intolerant  4/14/08 9:28:49 am reply quote 1

He doesn't even think Hamas are terrorists. Good gawd. This kind of stupidity is maddening.

23 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:28:51 am reply quote 0

re: #16 pig farmer

LOL!

24 x-ray  4/14/08 9:29:08 am reply quote 6

Jimmys just a bitter Georgian clinging to Religion, Hamas and Jew hatred as a coping mechanism.

25 just another four-letter word  4/14/08 9:29:35 am reply quote 0

Just another headline-grabbing tool/user/putz.

Give it up, Jimmah, you're a has-been (if you were even that).

JAFLW

26 Dustyvet  4/14/08 9:29:38 am reply quote 0

re: #20 crown_of_feathers

"Is it me or is jimmy Carter starting to look like an elderly Howdy Doodie?"

LOL!

Howdy Doodie had more going on inside his head, though.

We know...:)

27 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:30:04 am reply quote 0

re: #22 Milk Toast Intolerant

He doesn't even think Hamas are terrorists. Good gawd. This kind of stupidity is maddening.

Abbas is a man of peace!

28 Oh no...Sand People!  4/14/08 9:30:10 am reply quote 8

I am waiting for him to start wandering the Middle East in a brides dress.

29 maddogg  4/14/08 9:30:44 am reply quote 2

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

30 tfc3rid  4/14/08 9:30:47 am reply quote 2

Perhaps Jimmy Carter is getting senile in old age... Perhaps he's always had a sensitive twinge for the poor Palestinians...

Maybe he's just an idiot and a traitor...

31 macintush  4/14/08 9:30:49 am reply quote 0

When do we get to proceed with prosecution for treason?

32 lawhawk  4/14/08 9:31:06 am reply quote 1

Broken clock time. Even though he managed to mention that the rocket barrages against Sderot were criminal (okay, we can quibble that it isn't merely criminal, but an ongoing series of acts of war against Israel perpetrated by terrorists dedicated to Israel's destruction), he still manages to get everything else wrong about Hamas.

Besides, Hamas has American blood on its hands as well.

Yet, Carter repeatedly goes out of his way to defend Hamas.

33 jcm  4/14/08 9:31:10 am reply quote 1

re: #18 Iron Fist

Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

34 Psaturn  4/14/08 9:31:56 am reply quote 0

And historians dare call President Bush the worst president ever? Ahem...they should look at Jimmy Carter...

35 Necklace of Shoes  4/14/08 9:31:58 am reply quote 0

His brother, they found out, was a registered Lybian agent. I'd check to see if his registration forms are on file.

36 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:32:13 am reply quote 1

Yet, Carter GWB repeatedly goes out of his way to defend Hamas Fatah.


"Can't you see what's happening here?
Don't you see what's happening?"
~ George Bailey
37 tfc3rid  4/14/08 9:32:20 am reply quote 0

re: #18 Iron Fist

Um, Logan Act, anyone? Arrest his ass and throw him in jail when he gets back.

Exactly what I was thinking... Isn't he covered by the Logan Act in this case, since even the morons at State are against him on this?

38 Ben Hur  4/14/08 9:32:25 am reply quote 1

I think he's on Bush's payroll.

39 jamgarr  4/14/08 9:32:34 am reply quote 2

Yesterday George Will called Jimmah "delusional". Brilliant!

40 just another four-letter word  4/14/08 9:32:34 am reply quote 0

re: #30 tfc3rid

Perhaps Jimmy Carter is getting senile in old age... Perhaps he's always had a sensitive twinge for the poor Palestinians...

Maybe he's just an idiot and a traitor...

The evidence would point to the latter...

JAFLW

41 Golem Akbar  4/14/08 9:32:35 am reply quote 0

Jimmy Carter does what Jimmy Carter does, but who supports him? Which politicians think he is doing the right thing? I know Obama will not criticize him, and for that I would put BHO into the "unacceptable" category. Who else?

We need to know who are the terrorist enablers. Besides Jimmy Carter.

42 crown_of_feathers  4/14/08 9:32:41 am reply quote 0

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

43 MandyManners  4/14/08 9:32:42 am reply quote 1

Why did Israel let him land?

44 hayseed  4/14/08 9:32:45 am reply quote 0

I can't believe I voted for this twit in my youth

45 maddogg  4/14/08 9:32:47 am reply quote 0

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

How about in a black leather mini skirt, fishnet hose, and 6 inch platform patent leather boots?

46 Sabba Hillel  4/14/08 9:33:12 am reply quote 0

I would state that Dhimmi is showing the mental illness that comes with age but my wife pointed out that it would be an insult to victims of Alzheimer's and other forms of senile dementia. Besides, when a person starts losing his mental capacities because of an age related illness, his true personality comes to the fore. As a result we are seeing the true Dhimmi Carter. The "lust for the Polish people" and the hatred for Menachem Begin were apparently part of his basic personality rather than mistakes.

47 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:33:39 am reply quote 0

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

Have we not indicted people very very recently
and are still doing so
for having dealings with Hamas and other designated terror groups ?
CAIR, the Holy Land Foundation, Samui Al Arian

etcetc

He is above that law?

48 Iron Fist  4/14/08 9:33:44 am reply quote 0

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.


It'd be interesting to see that argued in Court. The Law hasn't been repealed, and Carter is definately in violation of it.

They won't charge him, of course, but they should. The Bush Administration doesn't have the balls to charge him, and Carter knows it.

49 WriterMom  4/14/08 9:33:57 am reply quote 0

re: #8 BabbaZee

BABBALEH...Chag Sameach...

50 hayseed  4/14/08 9:33:58 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Ben Hur

I think he's on Bush's payroll.

I hope this isn't some back door crap

51 WriterMom  4/14/08 9:34:32 am reply quote 0

re: #16 pig farmer

When pigs fly.

52 maddogg  4/14/08 9:34:43 am reply quote 0

45 was supposed to be directed to comment # 28.

PMIF

53 Kosh's Shadow  4/14/08 9:34:46 am reply quote 1

Well, Dhimmi wrote speeches for Arafish, and guided him in changing the world's opinion of that terrorist and his organization; he wants to do the same for Hamas.

54 victor_yugo  4/14/08 9:34:55 am reply quote 1

re: #44 hayseed

I can't believe I voted for this twit in my youth

Thank $DEITY I was too young to vote then.

55 Honorary Yooper  4/14/08 9:34:56 am reply quote 0

re: #33 jcm

Logan Act is not viable. One indictment, that case never went to trail. If a law hasn't been used for 100+ years it is effective no longer a law.

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

56 just another four-letter word  4/14/08 9:35:08 am reply quote 0

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Look, so you made a mistake twice - don't get worked up about it, but don't repeat it either. Move ahead and don't look back. The only perfect person to walk this earth got nailed to a cross, the rest of us have to muddle along as best we can.

JAFLW

57 firebreather  4/14/08 9:35:24 am reply quote 5

Strictly a Jew-hating, America-hating, Israel-hating Leftist who never met a terrorist he didn't fall in love with.

He'd sit down w/bin Laden, KSM & Ramsey Clark & wax nostalgic about 9/11 if he could.

58 Tumulus11  4/14/08 9:35:31 am reply quote 1
'Speaking at an event organized by an Israeli financial newspaper, Carter said he wanted to become a “communicator” between Hamas and the U.S.'

. 'Mouthpiece' is the correct term.

59 galloping granny  4/14/08 9:35:45 am reply quote 7

Israel should refuse to let him land in Israel - period.

60 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:35:45 am reply quote 0

re: #49 WriterMom

BABBALEH...Chag Sameach...

{Chag Sameach WriterMom!}

61 WriterMom  4/14/08 9:35:52 am reply quote 0

re: #46 Sabba Hillel

His inability to find Islamic terrorists evil pre-dates the current HamasOPalooza...remember the hostages?

62 laZardo  4/14/08 9:35:54 am reply quote 0

re: #44 hayseed

At least back then the Democrat states were the red ones.

63 vxbush  4/14/08 9:36:03 am reply quote 0

re: #54 victor_yugo

Thank $DEITY I was too young to vote then.

Heh....that there is useful code.

64 Ben Hur  4/14/08 9:36:11 am reply quote 1

re: #50 hayseed

I hope this isn't some back door crap

It reminds of N Korea.

People were against him meeting with the Norks, but then, when he was "successful" Albright stepped right it.

65 Kosh's Shadow  4/14/08 9:36:12 am reply quote 1

re: #24 x-ray

Jimmys just a bitter Georgian clinging to Religion, Hamas and Jew hatred as a coping mechanism.

But Obamanation and his irrevrend agree.

66 Kosh's Shadow  4/14/08 9:37:03 am reply quote 0

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

Obama already has Dhimmi's advisers.

67 carl b  4/14/08 9:37:06 am reply quote 0
people it labeled terrorists

So who would Carter consider an actual terrorist, not just one labeled as such? Oh, right, must be those apartheid Joooos who commit random acts of murder that disproportionately target those poor misunderstood peace-loving hamas activists as they practice backyard rocketry.

68 Nevergiveup  4/14/08 9:37:38 am reply quote 1

re: #41 Golem Akbar

Jimmy Carter does what Jimmy Carter does, but who supports him? Which politicians think he is doing the right thing? I know Obama will not criticize him, and for that I would put BHO into the "unacceptable" category. Who else?

We need to know who are the terrorist enablers. Besides Jimmy Carter.

The terrorist enablers are all those who use the following code words: balanced approach, honest broker, even handed, human rights, moderate Palestinian. I think you get the point. Hum, now witch party and particularly which candidate's advisers use those terms. Well I'm stumped?

69 Golem Akbar  4/14/08 9:37:42 am reply quote 0

President Carter is the reason I am no longer a democrat. [the party left me, I didn't leave the party]

70 buzzsawmonkey  4/14/08 9:37:48 am reply quote 0

re: #24 x-ray

Jimmys just a bitter Georgian clinging to Religion, Hamas and Jew hatred as a coping mechanism.

Well, that's because he lost his job 28 years ago and has not really had anything since. Hmmmmmmmmm--maybe Barack Obama has something there.

72 SonOfLiberty  4/14/08 9:38:29 am reply quote 2

re: #16 pig farmer

Jimmah is a disgusting piece of sh*t--when, oh when, is our State Department going to curtail his treasonous activities?

/it's not treason it's free speech!

Seriously, though, Jimbo's off the ranch on this one. The US can very simply state, "Jimmy doesn't speak for the US Government and any and all 'negotiations and talks' with him will have no effect on any relations with the US Government." The end.

The fact that we so willingly allow so many US "dignitaries" (so ironic, that) to run amok and do as they please is disgusting and it makes the US leadership look spineless and irrelevant (which isn't exactly inaccurate, to be fair...).

Role-reversal time! Clinton or Obama gets elected and Bush goes to Isreal to negotiate continued mutual support. How much do you bet the liberals foam at the mouth and scream, blowing hoses of liquid hate from every available orifice?

Mmm, delicious ignorance.

73 Oh no...Sand People!  4/14/08 9:38:38 am reply quote 0

re: #62 laZardo

At least back then the Democrat states were the red ones.

Speaking of Red States...don't the Repub's switch to the Blue and the Dem's switch back to their true color of Commy Red?

Or is the switch permanent?

74 JamesTKirk  4/14/08 9:38:38 am reply quote 0

But Jimmy doesn’t want to hear it

Of course not. His type always know better than the rest of us.

75 Nevergiveup  4/14/08 9:38:53 am reply quote 0

re: #69 Golem Akbar

President Carter is the reason I am no longer a democrat. [the party left me, I didn't leave the party]

Is that you Senator Liberman?

76 jcm  4/14/08 9:38:55 am reply quote 0

re: #47 BabbaZee

Other laws are more applicable, and IMHO should be applied.
re: #48 Iron Fist

It'd be interesting to see that argued in Court. The Law hasn't been repealed, and Carter is definately in violation of it.

They won't charge him, of course, but they should. The Bush Administration doesn't have the balls to charge him, and Carter knows it.

Every new law gets it's first case, that case is used to "test" the legality of the law. That's what's called "case law" the nuts and bolts application of a law in court.

There's never been a Logan Act trial. The law it's self has never had a "test run" there's no precedent on how it works. Added to that it's so old and never been tested, the legal system has in effect made a decision that the law is not workable. (doesn't make a lot of sense but there it is)

77 maddogg  4/14/08 9:38:58 am reply quote 0

re: #66 Kosh's Shadow

Obama already has Dhimmi's advisers.


Certainly, but I think Jimmah would be an excellent addition to the albatross necklace Obama has hanging around his neck.

78 Ornery Ballsack  4/14/08 9:39:20 am reply quote 0

re: #45 maddogg

Obama's foreign policy team would be a Jimmy Carter foreign policy team. Especially Zbigniew Brezinski, with hints of Susan Power, Jeremiah Wright, and Col. Qaddafi.

79 carl b  4/14/08 9:39:27 am reply quote 0

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Whack! Now one back at me, please...

80 taxfreekiller  4/14/08 9:39:27 am reply quote 2

We, on the authority given under the Logan Act, do hereby petition for the arrest and trial of Jimmy Carter.

signed,

"We the People"

1. Acts so stupid he is certifiable insane.
2. Worse than Lt. for Life John F. Kerry.
3. Get the man a coyote and help him illegally immigrate into Syria.

81 firebreather  4/14/08 9:39:45 am reply quote 0

re: #68 Nevergiveup

You forgot to add that perennial favorite: "Peace process."

As in, the Palestinian "peace process" everytime they disembowel pregnant Jewish women or blow up school kids in Tel Aviv.

82 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:40:05 am reply quote 0

re: #76 jcm

That's what I am saying.
the fact that they are not applying them telegraphs consent, no matter what the hooplediplobabble is.

83 victor_yugo  4/14/08 9:40:18 am reply quote 0

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

Is selective/inconsistent enforcement of the law a feasible defense?

84 jcm  4/14/08 9:40:56 am reply quote 0

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Um, where do you get that from? A law on the books is still a law on the books no matter how old it is if it had never been removed from the books or struck out by another law passed more recently.

There is book law, what congress passes, and case law what is functional in the courts.

Logan is book law, never been made case law.

I don't make up the rules, that's just the way it is.

See my #76.

85 gymnast  4/14/08 9:41:04 am reply quote 0

Jimmah Carter? "Why he's crazier than a shit house rat and twice as willing to bite Americas collective ass" (Reputedly the last words of his Libyan agent brother).

86 Nevergiveup  4/14/08 9:41:22 am reply quote 0

re: #81 firebreather

You forgot to add that perennial favorite: "Peace process."

As in, the Palestinian "peace process" everytime they disembowel pregnant Jewish women or blow up school kids in Tel Aviv.

Hell let's throw in "Road Map" also. There so many good ones to choose from.

87 Golem Akbar  4/14/08 9:41:31 am reply quote 0

re: #68 Nevergiveup

The terrorist enablers are all those who use the following code words: balanced approach, honest broker, even handed, human rights, moderate Palestinian. I think you get the point. Hum, now witch party and particularly which candidate's advisers use those terms. Well I'm stumped?


Not all democrats (I am assuming that's the party you meant) are terror-enablers/Carter supporters. But most are, these days, most likely. Man, that 's really sad.

I can't understand how any Jew could have anything but contempt for Carter. And I really can't understand how anyone who loves democracy could listen or watch Jimmy Carter without throwing up.

88 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:41:37 am reply quote 0
89 Kosh's Shadow  4/14/08 9:41:56 am reply quote 0

re: #77 maddogg

Certainly, but I think Jimmah would be an excellent addition to the albatross necklace Obama has hanging around his neck.

My response to this would get me banned. But the image it leaves...

90 anubis_soundwave  4/14/08 9:41:59 am reply quote 0

Isn't he endangering his Secret Service detail by doing this?

91 JamesTKirk  4/14/08 9:42:23 am reply quote 0

re: #29 maddogg

Well, how long before Jimmah is Obama's foreign policy adviser?

You misspelled "Osama". He advised Arafat, he wants to work with Hamas, he's out their working for real mass-murderers. Obama is a piker to him.

92 Ben Hur  4/14/08 9:42:29 am reply quote 0

Don't forget "Shelf Plan."

I can't wait for the annoying MSM metaphors on this one.

I've had quite enough of "Roadblocks" on the roadmap.

93 Golem Akbar  4/14/08 9:43:09 am reply quote 0

re: #75 Nevergiveup

Is that you Senator Liberman?


I hope Ol' Joe isn't the only democrat who still believes in democracy or the vision of JFK (ask not what your county can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country).

94 maddogg  4/14/08 9:43:11 am reply quote 0

Here is Jimmah's idea of a real terrorist.

95 JamesTKirk  4/14/08 9:43:27 am reply quote 0

re: #42 crown_of_feathers

I know this is the twelfth time I've asked for this, but it's something I can't atone for enough: Will someone please beat me upside the head for having voting for that Putz-azoid TWICE?

Into the agonizer booth with you.

96 taxfreekiller  4/14/08 9:43:44 am reply quote 2

The Two Party Evil Money Cult Fears The Logan Act, Thus Members of the Cult Such as Kerry, Carter, etal, get a Fee Treason Pass..

Cut to the chase, punishment.

97 steveoh  4/14/08 9:43:51 am reply quote 0

Jimmy Carter hates Jews deeply but hates Israel even more. He is still furious over what he perceived to be Menachem Begin's broken promise to freeze settlement activity in Judea and Samaria.

He has an old grudge to square and he won't rest until he feels it's accomplished.

He has also received millions in "donations from multiple Israel hating States, political organizations and individuals. He's bought and pais for, and doing what he wants and loves to do!

98 Ben Hur  4/14/08 9:44:12 am reply quote 0

So, all's quiet in Egypt?

Maybe Jimmy should go there and feed the people.

99 firebreather  4/14/08 9:44:19 am reply quote 0

re: #86 Nevergiveup

How about "2-state solution" for good measure. Diplomats/journalists/academics/peacenik s love all of these slogans, no matter how transparently vapid they are.

100 Peacekeeper  4/14/08 9:44:27 am reply quote 0

Carter is a driven man...

101 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:44:32 am reply quote 3
102 jcm  4/14/08 9:44:39 am reply quote 0

re: #82 BabbaZee

That's what I am saying.
the fact that they are not applying them telegraphs consent, no matter what the hooplediplobabble is.

We never whacked Hanoi Jane or any of that crowd for playing footsie with the NVA. We have all kinds of people the last 45 years going and yukking it up with our enemies.

Through inane logical syllogism we've collectively concluded that having meetings with and shilling for our enemies is "free speech."

*spit*

103 galloping granny  4/14/08 9:45:06 am reply quote 0

re: #90 anubis_soundwave

Isn't he endangering his Secret Service detail by doing this?

He is also putting them in a darned tight spot. The Secret Service detail is supposed to do absolutely nothing except protect his sorry ass. They are not supposed to see or hear a thing - just like they didn't see or hear Bill's soiree in the Oval Office with the blue dress and the cigar. But tell that to Hamas, who is going to look at each and every one of them as CIA spies.

And then there is the salient point that the Israeli government has instructed Shin Bet to do absolutely nothing to assist Carter - as in N.O.T.H.I.N.G

Personally, I would just tell him to bugger off and refuse to let his plane land in Israel - period.

104 Izzy Dunne[deleted]  4/14/08 9:45:11 am -1
105 Biff  4/14/08 9:45:46 am reply quote 2

In retrospect, the Carter-Sadat-Begin Sinai deal was a major coup for the radical arabist Carter. Sadat was assassinated over the deal, Begin gave up a huge strategic advantage, oil and gas reserves, and probably the best alternative solution to the Palestinian situation. Carter's Peace Prize was his reward for furthering the Saudi agenda. He continues to milk it with his anti-semitic books and "peace" initiatives to ever more radical terrorist groups. Remember, this is also the guy who waged a massive PR campaign against our only true muslim ally in the Mideast, The Shah. The Shah was ripped apart in the MSM for defending his country against the Shia Islamists. Carter managed to hamstring the Shah to the point that the Islamists took control of Iran. Carter virtually led Khomeini from exile in Paris and back to Qom. It is also likely that Carter refused to permit the Marines to defend the Embassy leading to the 444 day hostage takeover. What a fool. What a disaster. Bush should revoke his passport.

106 victor_yugo  4/14/08 9:45:47 am reply quote 2

re: #100 Peacekeeper

Carter is a driven man...

Driven to what? Insanity?

107 MandyManners  4/14/08 9:45:57 am reply quote 0

re: #84 jcm

There is book law, what congress passes, and case law what is functional in the courts.

Logan is book law, never been made case law.

I don't make up the rules, that's just the way it is.

See my #76.

Statutory law carries the same weight as case law.

108 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:46:01 am reply quote 0
109 SlartyBartfast  4/14/08 9:47:04 am reply quote 3

I've posted this before 'cause it's such a powerful (yet concise) statement:

We call on this body [the UN] to declare war on international terror, to outlaw it and eradicate it wherever it may be. We call on this body...to unite in a common effort to place these criminals outside the pale of human society, and with them to place any country which co-operates in any way in their nefarious activities.

Chaim Herzog, Israeli delegate to the UN in 1976 after the raid on Entebbe.


You can't talk to these criminals any more than you could negotiate a rabid dog out of your yard...

110 jjag  4/14/08 9:47:12 am reply quote 5

Carter suffers from the affliction, common among liberals, of being in love with the sound of his own voice.

In either his arrogance or his stupidity (or both) he imagines that reason can be accepted by people who have embraced a philosophy of wholesale murder to accomplish their goals. Any rational person would never conceive of "reasoning" with a murderer. Only someone with a delusional sense of superiority can believe that the mere dulcet sound of their voice and their "intelligent" structuring of argument can talk a beast out of devouring them.

This is insanity on an unimaginable level. But I suppose it is just yet another example of how liberals are completely incapable of understanding the existence of ruthlessness in some human being's nature.

Carter has evolved from a simple failure to become the epitome of evil; an "American" who coddles fiends, despots and butchers. Not satisfied for being reviled as just an incompetent president he, apparently, now wants to establish his credentials as the lowest form of public figure in American history.

111 Peacekeeper  4/14/08 9:47:14 am reply quote 2

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

They own his brain, why not let the meat walk around free?

112 hayseed  4/14/08 9:47:24 am reply quote 1

re: #88 BabbaZee

lol. when I was young I had to run out of my neighbors back door with my cowboy boots in hand when her mom came home. then I had to hop a fence...ouch

113 Golem Akbar  4/14/08 9:47:31 am reply quote 1

re: #97 steveoh

Jimmy Carter hates Jews deeply but hates Israel even more. He is still furious over what he perceived to be Menachem Begin's broken promise to freeze settlement activity in Judea and Samaria.

He has an old grudge to square and he won't rest until he feels it's accomplished.

He has also received millions in "donations from multiple Israel hating States, political organizations and individuals. He's bought and pais for, and doing what he wants and loves to do!


I point this out to all my Jewish-democrat friends. Why are they still democrats?

They (Jewish democrats) used to say that Jimmy Carter is an old has-been, and doesn't represent the democratic party. Yet, he has been given new political life by Obama. I think Carter has become the new symbol of that party, along with Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, and maybe Reverand Wright.

114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  4/14/08 9:47:43 am reply quote 0

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

"We demand the release of all Prisoners!"

"OK, 1000 prisoners"

"100?"

"Ok, we'll turn ourselves in. Just come take him. Please?"

115 Ward Cleaver  4/14/08 9:47:54 am reply quote 1

"Loooooooooook into my eyes. You're getting schtoooopid."

116 Dustyvet  4/14/08 9:48:02 am reply quote 0

re: #80 taxfreekiller

We, on the authority given under the Logan Act, do hereby petition for the arrest and trial of Jimmy Carter.

signed,

"We the People"

1. Acts so stupid he is certifiable insane.
2. Worse than Lt. for Life John F. Kerry.
3. Get the man a coyote and help him illegally immigrate into Syria.


4. Get two coyotes and he can take Lt. for Life John F. Kerry with him,

117 Nevergiveup  4/14/08 9:48:09 am reply quote 0

re: #87 Golem Akbar

Not all democrats (I am assuming that's the party you meant) are terror-enablers/Carter supporters. But most are, these days, most likely. Man, that 's really sad.

I can't understand how any Jew could have anything but contempt for Carter. And I really can't understand how anyone who loves democracy could listen or watch Jimmy Carter without throwing up.

While all Democrats may not overtly be terrorist enablers, if they:
1) blindly criticize President Bush for not getting directly involved in the
"peace process" without acknowledging that the Israelis have no real
peace partner.
2) Back an overtly anti-semitic candidate who until he decided to run for
national office was intimately involved with terrorist elements in the
American Arab community, and apparently sleep thru 20 years of
sermons?
Then they are to stupid to be given any responsibility for this country's
Foreign Policy.

118 Cygnus  4/14/08 9:48:11 am reply quote 1

re: #14 BabbaZee

Hamas 101
(Jimmah's Terrorists)

Fatah 101
(GWB's Terrorists)

Our terrorists are nicer than your terrorists!

/////////

119 galloping granny  4/14/08 9:48:14 am reply quote 0

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.

That would be so . . .; . . . . tragic. Maybe he could offer himself up instead of Shallit though.

120 Peacekeeper  4/14/08 9:48:28 am reply quote 0

re: #106 victor_yugo

Driven to what? Insanity?

No he has a limo drive him every where.

121 maddogg  4/14/08 9:49:40 am reply quote 3

re: #104 Izzy Dunne

It'd be a shame if they kidnapped him.


It really would.


Kidnap and hold for ransom? I will contribute one Bronx cheer to the ransom fund.

122 BabbaZee  4/14/08 9:49:40 am reply quote 0

re: #112 hayseed

lol.