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Israel Declines Security Assistance for Carter

Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:03:37 am PST

In a very unusual move, Israel has declined to provide assistance to Jimmy Carter’s Secret Service security team.

JERUSALEM - Israel’s secret service has declined to assist U.S. agents guarding former U.S. President Jimmy Carter during a visit in which Israeli leaders have shunned him, U.S. sources told Reuters on Monday. ...

American sources close to the matter said the Shin Bet security service, which helps protect visiting dignitaries and is overseen by Olmert’s office, declined to meet the head of Carter’s Secret Service security detail or provide his team with assistance as is customary during such visits.

“They’re not getting support from local security,” an American source said.

Another source described the snub as an “unprecedented” breach between the Israeli Shin Bet and the U.S. Secret Service, which protects all current and former U.S. presidents, as well as Israeli leaders when they visit the United States.

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#1 Iron Fist 4/14/08 11:04:55 am 23

There's no reason they should protect the terrorist-hugger.

#2 Honorary Yooper 4/14/08 11:05:15 am 6

Well, Jimmy, I guess you're on your own.

#3 deesine 4/14/08 11:06:03 am 8

He's so well liked over there, does he really need security for his security?

#4 unrealizedviewpoint 4/14/08 11:06:07 am 20

Big enough message yet?
Got it yet Jimmy?

#5 Honorary Yooper 4/14/08 11:06:19 am 0

Now, if only [deleted] [deleted] [deleted].

#6 Yishai 4/14/08 11:06:59 am 17

I agree with the move: Why should you protect someone who is actively promoting your insecurity?

Yet the question still stands: Why feed your enemy as he actively tries to murder you?

#7 Ward Cleaver 4/14/08 11:07:01 am 18

"You're on your own, dickhead."

/shin bet

#8 galloping granny 4/14/08 11:07:21 am 30

They should have gone whole hog and refused him permission to land in Israel. Nobody is required to play host to an enemy and Carter has made it clear that he is and has been for quite some time hand and glove in cahoots with terrorists whose stated intent is to drive every Israeli into the sea.

#9 godfrey 4/14/08 11:07:26 am 29

Good for Israel.

#10 taxfreekiller 4/14/08 11:07:36 am 1

Jimmy Carter, real world bad History, bad overlay of dumb, and its reported he is a Democrat.!

#11 snowcrash 4/14/08 11:07:43 am 2

Good for Israel.

#12 Golem Akbar 4/14/08 11:07:56 am 1

Carter doesn't need protection from terrorists, as they will be the ones most likely protecting him, anyway.

#13 Ward Cleaver 4/14/08 11:07:57 am -4

"And sometimes a Hellfire goes a little astray."

#14 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:08:11 am 10
Another source described the snub

That's not a "snub". That's a slap in the face.

#15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian 4/14/08 11:08:12 am 5

Trying viligently to clean up my language...but can not resist

Hoo-Fucking-Ray! Well played.

#16 JWM 4/14/08 11:08:34 am 0

Jeez, It'd be really sad if islamic terrorists kidnapped Jimmy Carter!

(really, it would)

JWM

#17 dhawken 4/14/08 11:08:40 am 0

As with Olmert's refusal to meet with him, the message is "Draw your own conclusions". I think they've had enough, and rightly so.

#18 Ornery Ballsack 4/14/08 11:08:56 am 47

Former president Carter then requested transportation assistance and was given a bridal gown and a map.

#19 manifestdestiny 4/14/08 11:09:12 am 3

Go Israel! You love the terrorists so much have them protect you.

#20 TalkinKamel 4/14/08 11:09:13 am 14

Good for Israel.

I wish the US would cut off his secret service protection.

#21 Ringo the Gringo 4/14/08 11:09:42 am 8

Let Hamas provide his security.

#22 Ghostbuster 4/14/08 11:09:58 am 16

Gee, maybe he will be taken hostage and held for 444 days, ya think.....

#23 dhawken 4/14/08 11:10:22 am 1

re: #18 Ornery Ballsack

Former president Carter then requested transportation assistance and was given a bridal gown and a map.

That's gold!

#24 Golem Akbar 4/14/08 11:10:26 am 1

re: #20 TalkinKamel

Good for Israel.

I wish the US would cut off his secret service protection.

Carter will be kept safe by Hamas and any Al Queda he meets on the way. They love their man, Bin Jimmah

#25 luckygirl 4/14/08 11:10:30 am 4

And they are surprised that after a decades long position that is anti-Israel, that Israel doesn't waltz out to greet his visit with fireworks, flowers and full protective support? I applaud the gesture. Now he should show his faith in Hamas by attending his planned meeting sans his own security.

#26 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:10:31 am 1

re: #18 Ornery Ballsack

Former president Carter then requested transportation assistance and was given a bridal gown and a map.

Dagnabit. I sucked cigarette smoke the wrong way when I read that. It hurts.

#27 galloping granny 4/14/08 11:10:36 am 5

re: #17 dhawken

As with Olmert's refusal to meet with him, the message is "Draw your own conclusions". I think they've had enough, and rightly so.

As well they should have done. Washington both past and current has made it more than apparent that Israel is on its own.

#28 Ben Hur 4/14/08 11:10:39 am 2

Wiat until the Palis take a shot at him and claim it was the Mossad trying to make the Palis look bad.

#29 Irenike 4/14/08 11:10:39 am 9

Why does Carter need the Jews to protect him anyway? I thought he was friends with the terrorists.

Yay, Israel! Good move!

The United States should refuse to let Jimmie the Dhimmie back into the US. He has been cavorting with our enemies.

#30 rabidsquirrel 4/14/08 11:10:44 am 1
Meantime, the ex-president toured a rocket-battered Israeli town, saying he deplored Palestinian militant attacks on Israel.

Deplored them? Because they weren't effective enough?

#31 Ward Cleaver 4/14/08 11:10:52 am 1

re: #20 TalkinKamel

Good for Israel.

I wish the US would cut off his secret service protection.

He gets grabbed up by the wrong jihadis, he's liable to get something else cut off.

#32 Opinionated 4/14/08 11:11:01 am 4

Nothing unusual.

The Olmert Government is declining security assistance to the citizens of Sderot. To all of Israel by continuing to appease the barbarians.

#33 taxfreekiller 4/14/08 11:11:24 am 0

He would look so fine standing up with Al Gore for Global Warming,
now if he can just grow lip hair. Does the FDA allow rogaine to be used on liberal lips.

#34 Yishai 4/14/08 11:11:37 am 27

I feel sorry for the real Secret Service agents who will be forced to protect this batty crackpot in enemy territory with no local support or intel. My hope for them is that without Israel's support they will be able to cite real security concerns and prevent Emperor Palpatine from making the trip.

#35 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:11:49 am 11

I have a question. What if he is assassinated? How quickly will the MSM and their moonbat allies jump to condemn Israel?

#36 Vergeltung 4/14/08 11:11:49 am 2

re: #22 Ghostbuster

Gee, maybe he will be taken hostage and held for 444 days, ya think.....

oh man, would that be poetic justice or what!?!? (sigh)

#37 winston06 4/14/08 11:11:56 am 2

I feel bad for the Secret Service team who has to protect this SOB. I am glad Israel doesn't provide security for this SOB too.

#38 luckygirl 4/14/08 11:11:58 am 0

re: #18 Ornery Ballsack

Oh I was so trying not to go there!

#39 JWM 4/14/08 11:12:02 am 8

Hamas:
We will not give you back this Jimmy of Carter until you meet our many and reasonable demands! We want nuclear submarining boats and many large rabbits.

JWM

#40 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:12:05 am 0

re: #35 MandyManners

I have a question. What if he is assassinated? How quickly will the MSM and their moonbat allies jump to condemn Israel?

They do it already.

Duh.

#41 winston06 4/14/08 11:13:06 am 4

re: #1 Iron Fist

Send Carter to Iran NOW

#42 unrealizedviewpoint 4/14/08 11:13:21 am 2

Whenever I envision Carter what comes to mind is the scene at the democratic convention; him next to Moore. I wonder what percentage of Americans have knowledge of this buffoons recent actions?

#43 Ben Hur 4/14/08 11:13:21 am 0

Gore is going the end of May.

#44 Ward Cleaver 4/14/08 11:13:24 am 3

re: #39 JWM

Hamas:
We will not give you back this Jimmy of Carter until you meet our many and reasonable demands! We want nuclear submarining boats and many large rabbits.

JWM

Bush administration:
We'll get back to you.

#45 Golem Akbar 4/14/08 11:13:38 am 0

re: #40 MandyManners

They do it already.

Duh.


Carter's safe. No terrorist wants to assassinate their own hero.

#46 buzzsawmonkey 4/14/08 11:13:45 am 23

Unfortunately, we the American taxpayers will still provide Secret Service protection for Carter's playdate as he romps in the sandbox on his Hamas buddies.

I regret both my money which goes to this purpose, and the fact that honorable Secret Service operatives are compelled to participate.

#47 Render 4/14/08 11:13:56 am 15

Is the Secret Service required to protect Carter under these circumstances?

Can they refuse? Can individual agents refuse to be assigned that detail?

Can we the Taxpayers, refuse to foot the bill for Carter's Secret Service detail?

ENOUGH
ALREADY,
R

#48 Cpt. Disco 4/14/08 11:13:56 am 0

From what I hear, the Shin Bet are people you REALLY want covering your back side. I wonder if this refusal will have any impact on whether or not he still goes. Probably not.

#49 JWM 4/14/08 11:14:11 am 2

re: #43 Ben Hur

Gore is going the end of May.

May he receive a globally warm reception.

JWM

#50 Honorary Yooper 4/14/08 11:14:12 am 3

re: #46 buzzsawmonkey

Unfortunately, we the American taxpayers will still provide Secret Service protection for Carter's playdate as he romps in the sandbox on his Hamas buddies.

I regret both my money which goes to this purpose, and the fact that honorable Secret Service operatives are compelled to participate.

Then I demand a refund!

#51 XMarine 4/14/08 11:14:13 am 1

What does he expect when he cozies up to a thug who routinely refers to Jewish people as, "Sons of apes and pigs?"

The Israelis are just a wee bit more inclined to be honest and less inclined to be politically correct with idiots like Carter than are other nations in the world.

#52 dr.mister 4/14/08 11:14:30 am 20

This man should be tried for treason.

#53 godfrey 4/14/08 11:14:45 am 0

re: #40 MandyManners

Won't happen. He's making Jew-hatred pay too well.

#54 lawhawk 4/14/08 11:14:47 am 4

I think it's bad precedent, and if something were to happen to Carter, it seriously harms US relations with Israel. Israel puts itself in a real bad position over a policy spat with Carter. It should have provided the security, all the while denouncing Carter at every turn for going to visit with Meshaal.

Of course, Israel has no problem with having Olmert say that he wouldn't negotiate with terrorists - Hamas included, and yet we repeatedly get news stories reporting on back-channel negotiations between Israel and the terrorists over releasing Gilad Shalit and other similar issues (hudnas).

#55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian 4/14/08 11:15:52 am 0

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trying viligently to clean up my language...but can not resistblockquote>

NOTE TO SELF...Spell check before post

vigilantly

#56 Ben Hur 4/14/08 11:15:53 am 3
Oh! Missed Sullivan's response to Kristol:

A non-Christian manipulator of Christianity is calling a Christian a liar about his own faith. That's where they've gone to already.

Heh. Sullivan just called Kristol a Jew manipulating gullible Christians for his own personal agenda (which happens to be much-concerned with Israel, of course).

I feel so liberated now that we're having this "open, candid" discussion on race and religion that Obama Christ began for us.

Why, just a few days ago I didn't know it was acceptable to respond to a political opponent by simply calling him a dirty, scheming kike.

The fun we're going to have! And, as Sullivan points out, It's only April!

I wonder why he didn't note that Lisa Schrieffrin was also a "non-Christian..." I guess maybe because he wasn't sure she was a Yid. It's one of those names that could go either way, you know.

You know-- one of those sneaky stealth Jew-names that almost sound like good Christian names.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

#57 Ben Hur 4/14/08 11:16:42 am 0

My call is that he's on Bush's payroll.

Someone said, "Could it hurt? Let's see what happens."

#58 godfrey 4/14/08 11:16:48 am 2

re: #54 lawhawk

What harm? What policy spat? He said himself he's not going in any official capacity, and State backs that up. He's alone.

#59 lawhawk 4/14/08 11:17:08 am 2

Besides, if this is like anything else that Olmert's government has done in the past, it will reverse this course faster than Whiplash Ray Nagin could say Chocolate City.

#60 Kefirah 4/14/08 11:17:45 am 0

re: #45 Golem Akbar

i agree. they ARE rational, on some level, and any harm done to carter would only undermine their position. so i'm not sure what purpose this serves, except to be the ultimate slap in the face.

re: #54 lawhawk

you are probably right. guess we'll see how this plays out...

#61 galloping granny 4/14/08 11:17:58 am 10

re: #47 Render

Is the Secret Service required to protect Carter under these circumstances?

Can they refuse? Can individual agents refuse to be assigned that detail?

Can we the Taxpayers, refuse to foot the bill for Carter's Secret Service detail?

ENOUGH
ALREADY,
R

The Secret Service is required to protect the old SOB under ALL circumstances. Secret Service agents can refuse to protect him only by resigning. No, we cannot refuse to foot the bill for his Secret Service detail. Unfortunately.

According to Fox, Carter is saying -

Carter said he wanted to become a "communicator" between Hamas and the United States.

I really wish that someone would inform the old goat that he has been RETIRED by the American people and he has NO legal role to play as a representative of the US.

#62 chinesearithmetic 4/14/08 11:18:05 am 5

Maybe there are some Hell's Angels who missed Altamont who could do the job. And they're not from Pennsylvania, so they wouldn't be bitter.

#63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian 4/14/08 11:18:28 am 0

re: #18 Ornery Ballsack

Former president Carter then requested transportation assistance and was given a bridal gown and a map.

You are such a...a...you! Ha!

#64 beachkatie 4/14/08 11:18:38 am 0

I saw him on a clip on fox news this morning.. He was getting in a vehicle wearing a bullet proof vest. It was a brief glance but he was being question by the press.

#65 wolfie 4/14/08 11:18:46 am 1

re: #20 TalkinKamel

Good for Israel.

I wish the US would cut off his secret service protection.


Bravo for Israel!
And BTW, I see no reason why we the tax-payers should have to pay for SS protection abroad anyway. It's not as if ex-presidents have to travel anywhere they like.

#66 Ben Hur 4/14/08 11:18:53 am 6

United Nations Organization Destroyed Thousands of Books

PARIS — For more than two decades, 250 historians and specialists labored to produce the first six volumes of the General History of Latin America, an exhaustive work financed by UNESCO, the United Nations organization created to preserve global culture and heritage.

Then, over the course of two years, UNESCO paid to destroy many of those books and nearly 100,000 others by turning them to pulp, according to an external audit.

"This is the intellectual organization of the United nations system," Morocco's ambassador to UNESCO, Aziza Bennani, said in an interview. "How could an employee of UNESCO make a decision to destroy these books?"

Mexico's ambassador, Homero Aridjis, said at the organization's executive council meeting this past week: "This is not only a blow to the culture and knowledge of entire populations and nations, it contradicts the mandate entrusted to UNESCO." He demanded an internal investigation.

The director general of UNESCO, Koichiro Matsuura, said it was "completely incomprehensible and inappropriate" that some of the organization's "most important and successful collections" were ordered destroyed, including histories of humanity and Africa, and surveys of ancient monuments.

Who would want to re-write history?

#67 rabidsquirrel 4/14/08 11:19:05 am 2
“The most important single foreign policy goal in my life has been to bring peace to Israel, and peace and justice to Israel’s neighbors. I have done everything I could in office and since I left office to do that,” the paper quoted Carter as saying.

Sure, Jimmy. And I've done everything in my power to quit smoking cigarettes, abstain from alcohol, and cure cancer. I've had as much (arguably more) success than you have.

#68 galloping granny 4/14/08 11:19:10 am 1

re: #48 Cpt. Disco

From what I hear, the Shin Bet are people you REALLY want covering your back side. I wonder if this refusal will have any impact on whether or not he still goes. Probably not.

He is already there!

#69 PeaceAtAllCosts 4/14/08 11:19:20 am 5

Yeah....Israel refuses to deal with one group of terrorists but welcomes the like of Fatah Jew hater Abbas.

What a crock of sh*t!

Israel's government is corrupt and refuses to do what it is called to do: protect its people. The Israeli citizenry in Tel Aviv calmly chomps on Falafel, while their brothers and sisters living within the borders are attacked by savage murderers. While the appeasing government offers up Jerusalem and negotiates with Fatah-the average Israeli acts as if if doesn't effect them.

While Carter's stench is well known-please don't let the left wing secular government, and electorate of Israel of the hook so easily....

#70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian 4/14/08 11:19:25 am 0

re: #34 Yishai

Great point. Perhaps that is the whole idea. If you were head of his security, would you let him go?

#71 ec marm 4/14/08 11:19:27 am 4

I think they should meet his sorry ass at the airport and waterboard him until he admits to being a terrorist. That aughta take about 15 seconds.

Ah, maybe that's a little strong. But I'm bitter and I live in Pencilvania.

#72 lawhawk 4/14/08 11:19:28 am 2

re: #58 godfrey

The fact is that as a former President, he does lend power and prestige to those that he visits. Despite what State says, a former President does carry weight around the world. Besides, he may still be pushing an agenda not only for himself, but for Obama.

Let's just say that I don't trust State and I have seen far too many backchannel style diplomatic approaches to know one when I have seen them. Because you know that he will be reporting back to the likes of Obama and others on what he learned in his visit to Damascus.

#73 Alibaba 4/14/08 11:19:36 am 0

He will say that "it is all our fault". Yes, Jimmah is from the blame America first crowd! Jean Kirkpatrick got their number years ago.re: #22 Ghostbuster

#74 godfrey 4/14/08 11:19:38 am 0

re: #61 galloping granny

A "communicator," right. Because Hamas doesn't have enough access to the media. They only have 23.5/7 access! It's an outrage!

#75 Yishai 4/14/08 11:20:02 am 2

re: #54 lawhawk

I disagree that this is a policy spat. This is active assistance to an effective and lethal enemy. He is an ex-President who should be mindful of what his meetings mean and what the ramifications are. If he needs a slap in the face to remind him that Israel will only take it up the ass for so long before she says "Enough", so be it.

I hope nothing happens to him, but his actions are those of a responsible adult. Don't play with matches if you can't handle the heat, Dhimmi.

#76 coquimbojoe 4/14/08 11:20:06 am 1

re: #66 Ben Hur

United Nations Organization Destroyed Thousands of Books

Who would want to re-write history?

UN and Islam = Death. Of. Us. All.

#77 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:20:19 am 0

What's tomorrow? Oh, it's gonna' suck to put my envelope into the mail box.

#78 Beej 4/14/08 11:20:39 am 1

Israel's reasons for not giving protection will most likely go over his head. It will somehow be spun to look like Israel is simply 'dissing' this Nobel Peace Award Winner. Pbuh.

And someone from State or even the White House will probably call Olmert and tell them "yeah, yeah, he's an embarrassment to us too, and we've all got our kooks and weirdos but he's sort of a national treasure and really, could you please give him an armed escort. You don't have to celebrate him being there, but really, in the long run, look how bad would it be if he got hurt while in Israel, come on please, pretty please we'll pay for the extra detail please please please..."

If the powers that are really did not want him going, he would not be going.

#79 bulwrk 4/14/08 11:20:39 am 9

There is the safety of the USSS agents to consider if he goes ahead with his plans to visit Israel without the assistance of the Shen Bet.I think it will speak volumes about what type of narcissist he really is.

#80 MandyManners 4/14/08 11:20:52 am 0

re: #62 chinesearithmetic

Maybe there are some Hell's Angels who missed Altamont who could do the job. And they're not from Pennsylvania, so they wouldn't be bitter.

ROFLMAO!

#81 slokat 4/14/08 11:20:56 am 5

Reading about this I've come to the realization that I don't really care what happens or doesn't happen to ExPotUS Jimmy Carter.

His influence is minimal, his effect negligible & his continued existence remains unremarkable (except to the MSM).

#82 galloping granny 4/14/08 11:21:25 am 10

re: #72 lawhawk

The fact is that as a former President, he does lend power and prestige to those that he visits. Despite what State says, a former President does carry weight around the world. Besides, he may still be pushing an agenda not only for himself, but for Obama.

Let's just say that I don't trust State and I have seen far too many backchannel style diplomatic approaches to know one when I have seen them. Because you know that he will be reporting back to the likes of Obama and others on what he learned in his visit to Damascus.

Exactly! And don't forget to note that virtually all of Obama's foreign policy advisors were once Carter's.

#83 lawhawk 4/14/08 11:21:32 am 0

re: #58 godfrey

To be clear, the policy spat is Carter's talking with Hamas. That doesn't mean that the US or the Israelis don't have backchannel methods of communicating with the terror group (after all, it did so with Fatah pre-Oslo). It just means that the Israelis and State don't like when their diplomatic efforts on a topic as touchy as talking with the terrorist groups becomes front page fodder before they have a chance to even talk.

#84 TexasAC 4/14/08 11:21:39 am 16

Concerned for the safety of the Secret Service men only working their assignment. These Americans shouldn't be forced to risk their lives for a doddering, senile and useless old man.

#85 Guy_Philly 4/14/08 11:22:17 am 2

Jimmy is really damaging an already lame legacy. I think he had some people thinking that he is the best x-president ever, but a lot of people are now seeing that he is as bad at being an x-president as he was at being president. Ya shoulda stopped while you were ahead (or not to far behind).

#86 Cpt. Disco 4/14/08 11:22:26 am 0

re: #68 galloping granny

My Monday just got worse. Thanks for the update.

#87 mj 4/14/08 11:22:27 am 0

Question for Charles:

Why is it that when I type a comment, the letters don't appear till several seconds later? It's been getting longer as of late?

#88