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Obama Would 'Immediately' Look Into Prosecuting Bush Officials

Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:55:08 am PDT

Yesterday Barack Obama told a Philadelphia reporter that if elected President, he would “immediately” ask his Attorney General to look into prosecuting former Bush officials for war crimes and torture: Obama would ask his AG to ‘immediately review’ potential of crimes in Bush White House.

“What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that’s already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can’t prejudge that because we don’t have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You’re also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we’ve got too many problems we’ve got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment — I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General — having pursued, having looked at what’s out there right now — are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it’s important— one of the things we’ve got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I’ve said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law — and I think that’s roughly how I would look at it.”

He has to say this, whether it’s true or not. The “progressives” of the far left (CODEPINK, International ANSWER, Daily Kos, etc.) will want to be paid back for their messianic support, and they won’t be satisfied without promises of blood and circuses.

(Hat tip: Ethel.)

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1 Sharmuta  4/15/08 8:56:11 am reply quote

He's desperate for votes- he's trolling for the BDS sufferers.

2 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 8:56:14 am reply quote

I was going to say "Oh Brother" but that might be considered rqacist.

3 Gusbenz  4/15/08 8:56:32 am reply quote

What an ass.

4 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 8:56:59 am reply quote

Constitution is nobody above the law — and I think that’s roughly how I would look at it.”

roughly?

5 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 8:57:39 am reply quote
I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You’re also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt

His answer is, once again, all things to all people.

6 Onslow  4/15/08 8:57:49 am reply quote

Janet Reno might be up for the job, if she's finished defending Gitmo internees by then.

7 Sharmuta  4/15/08 8:58:01 am reply quote
I can’t prejudge that

....but I already have......

8 MandyManners  4/15/08 8:58:10 am reply quote

Politics of revenge.

9 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 8:58:11 am reply quote

Right out of the playbook, take power and use it to make sure nobody ever challenges you gain, or as Babba says; " WHORES!"

10 tfc3rid  4/15/08 8:58:11 am reply quote

Gee, I wonder what type of individual Barack would have on board as his AG? Someone like a John Edwards perhaps?

Nah, this wouldn't be a partisan investigation at all...

11 jcm  4/15/08 8:58:28 am reply quote

I've asked a few with BDS I know.

What crimes? What statute would you charge him under?

Never, ever, has anyone come up with an actual prosecutable crime.

12 lawhawk  4/15/08 8:58:32 am reply quote

Once again, this is what happens when you have a far left politician (just how far to the Left; Marxist, socialist, communist, etc., depends on which of Obama's mentors you believe had the most effect on him) pushing an agenda that undermines US national security and attempts to undo security initiatives that have thus far prevented another mass casualty attack on the scale of 9/11 and disrupted plots all around the country.

It has also kept terrorists securely locked away at Gitmo, which Obama and Hillary and McCain would like to see closed despite the fact that none offer up any plans for what they'd do with the terrorists detained there.

13 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 8:58:36 am reply quote
engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront

Has he been taking Don King elocution classes?

14 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 8:59:01 am reply quote

re: #5 Occasional Reader

His answer is, once again, all things to all people.

Actually, at the moment the witch is hunting him.

15 the jinxmedic  4/15/08 8:59:10 am reply quote

Barrack will get to the Troof of it all!

16 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 8:59:34 am reply quote

re: #14 Peacekeeper

Actually, at the moment the witch is hunting him.

Like in Soviet Russia!

17 Israel4ever  4/15/08 8:59:45 am reply quote

off topic:

this actor left scientology and is bashing it like crazy - amazing stuff. He sounds a little nutty, but what can you expect. lol

on topic - Can I officially say that I hate Obama, and think he's a turd?

18 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 8:59:53 am reply quote

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Like in Soviet Russia!

DA!

19 littleoldlady  4/15/08 8:59:53 am reply quote

"Immediately"? Even before I get my "Universal Health Care"?

/don't mess with my pie!

20 Honorary Yooper  4/15/08 9:00:12 am reply quote

Yep. This and more is what you can expect from an Obama administration.

I have an acid test for determining if a potential leader is a Third-wayer. If the potential leader has a decent sized cult of personality, he is a Third-wayer. All the prominent Third-wayers in history have had cults of personality: Hitler, Mussolini, Peron, Franco, etc. Stalin developed one after he turned more to the Third-way to get Russians to fight for the Motherland.

21 bunker buster  4/15/08 9:00:20 am reply quote

If there were any doubts about Obamessiah being a raging moonbat, those should now be laid to rest.

22 EE  4/15/08 9:00:39 am reply quote

BO would run America banana-republic-style, maybe like those countries where when one ruler comes into office, his predecessor and his predecessor's associates are all put into jail.

Start taking those Stalin-type and Lenin-type posters of Obama seriously. We may be in for a purge whose dimensions cannot even yet be imagined.

23 incanus  4/15/08 9:00:47 am reply quote

re: #1 Sharmuta

He's desperate for votes- he's trolling for the BDS sufferers.

Is it that simple, or is the mask coming off? I think he's so self-confident that he feels he can move to the left (or into the Marxist stratosphere, really) and still be a viable candidate.

24 LanceKates  4/15/08 9:00:48 am reply quote
“What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that’s already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can’t prejudge that because we don’t have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You’re also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we’ve got too many problems we’ve got to solve.

Plus, they're... like... white, according to my spiritual advisors, they're the devil.

/

25 Kosh's Shadow  4/15/08 9:00:57 am reply quote

Barack's change is revolution. And what do revolutionaries do with the previous government? Line them up against a wall and shoot them.
I hope when Obama loses he goes somewhere else, like Venezuela or Iran.

26 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 9:01:13 am reply quote

"With knowledge foreplay, I will investimigate if there were multimedia infractional situations of the Constipitution, which, roughly speaking, is like, all legal n' stuff."

28 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 9:01:18 am reply quote

This guy and his cult could really bring this country down...

29 lawhawk  4/15/08 9:01:21 am reply quote

re: #11 jcm

Who needs an actionable crime - they will simply have independent prosecutors look and root about until they can nail someone for a perjury trap or cite 'em for obstruction of justice.

Never mind that no laws were broken in all of this, that detention of terrorists at GitMo is fully within the US constitution and federal law and regulations and under the President's power as commander in chief.

They will simply investigate because that's all that they know how to do.

30 Dave the.....  4/15/08 9:01:28 am reply quote
I've asked a few with BDS I know.

What crimes? What statute would you charge him under?

Never, ever, has anyone come up with an actual prosecutable crime.

That's why I say to Barry O'bama..."go for it. Investigage all you want. I would love for our side to have our day in court. Let's settle this. It's like Dan Rather suing over the fake docs....bring it on."

And after two years of the crap, the Republicans will run in 2010 on change and may do quite well.

31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  4/15/08 9:01:46 am reply quote

I'm wondering when he'll start promising a chicken in every pot, a car in every garage and everyone earning an above average income.

32 Shug  4/15/08 9:01:51 am reply quote

How bitter of him

33 reggie  4/15/08 9:01:54 am reply quote

Feh. Somehow this one doesn't bug me so much. For trying not to lose the BDS vote (like they have anywhere else to go) but still disinterested in actually staging the witch hunt, then this isn't a bad answer. Everyone gets to read into it what they want to. He gets to say later that his AG looked and only found bad policies but no criminal behavior, then move on.

Of course, the rest of humanity gets to see him still entertaining the notion, and justly call him a crackpot.

34 JamesTKirk  4/15/08 9:02:15 am reply quote

They're guilty of being Republicans! Arrest them!

35 Ben Hur  4/15/08 9:02:17 am reply quote

And if they investigate and find that Bush was justified in everything he did?

All primary election BS for his nutty base.

Listen, this is meaningless.

Bush isn't going anywhere.

Bush / Cheney to Attempt Possible Coup

36 Honorary Yooper  4/15/08 9:02:26 am reply quote

re: #22 EE

BO would run America banana-republic-style, maybe like those countries where when one ruler comes into office, his predecessor and his predecessor's associates are all put into jail.

Start taking those Stalin-type and Lenin-type posters of Obama seriously. We may be in for a purge whose dimensions cannot even yet be imagined.

I have, and I do. Obama's cult of personality would make Mussolini proud. Oddly enough, that's the best anology I can find for Obama.

/Remember, Mussolini was a socialist to the end.

37 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 9:02:38 am reply quote
I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General

Gosh, I wonder who he's got on tap for Attorney General.

Ramsey Clark would be my best guess.

38 Sharmuta  4/15/08 9:02:41 am reply quote
Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law — and I think that’s roughly how I would look at it.

So....he would have voted to convict clinton if he'd been in the Senate back then?

39 Derek  4/15/08 9:02:50 am reply quote

Interesting.

I was just thinking that Bush should 'immediately' look into prosecuting treason charges for Democrat official's.

40 Kosh's Shadow  4/15/08 9:02:53 am reply quote

re: #23 incanus

Is it that simple, or is the mask coming off? I think he's so self-confident that he feels he can move to the left (or into the Marxist stratosphere, really) and still be a viable candidate.

The MSM has already crowned him; it's getting to his head.

41 laZardo  4/15/08 9:02:55 am reply quote

re: #9 Peacekeeper

Specifically speaking...
"COMMUNISLAMIST GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!"

42 BuddyG  4/15/08 9:03:13 am reply quote

re: #11 jcm

I've asked a few with BDS I know.

What crimes? What statute would you charge him under?

Never, ever, has anyone come up with an actual prosecutable crime.


One of my moonbat co-workers says Bush should be charged for not granting Geneva convention rights to WoT detainees.
Oh, and Bush "lied" about WMDs.
Sigh...

43 Golem Akbar  4/15/08 9:03:26 am reply quote

re: #30 Dave the.....

That's why I say to Barry O'bama..."go for it. Investigage all you want. I would love for our side to have our day in court. Let's settle this. It's like Dan Rather suing over the fake docs....bring it on."

And after two years of the crap, the Republicans will run in 2010 on change and may do quite well.


Maybe so, but I'd rather not have the 4 years of crap to go through. There can so much damage done in such a short amount of time.

44 JamesTKirk  4/15/08 9:03:28 am reply quote

OT: Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride the Subway Alone

This is the same kind of moron as the woman hitchhiking to the middle east and trusting in strangers, except that she's risking her child's life instead of her worthless own.

45 rawmuse  4/15/08 9:03:29 am reply quote

That would just be a start. The "Fairness Doctrine" would pass in to law. I could even see a scenario where Charles could be subpoenaed to reveal all of the registered users.

Forget the Surge, the next thing coming would be the Purge.

46 Sacred Plants  4/15/08 9:03:32 am reply quote

Giuliani applying?

47 laZardo  4/15/08 9:03:49 am reply quote

re: #27 Golem Akbar

If those are internet polls, then I get the feeling it's an evolution (devolution!) of the Ron Paul Stacking Syndrome.

48 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 9:04:09 am reply quote

re: #35 Ben Hur

Bush / Cheney to Attempt Possible Coup

They're going to attempt a possible coup? That sounds pretty half-hearted.

49 Dave the.....  4/15/08 9:04:35 am reply quote

I think he can was able to get along by only saying "hope" "Change" "hope" "Change" so many times. Now with nonstop media, including the oposition, on him and he and his wife talk everyday, things are coming out.

50 Honorary Yooper  4/15/08 9:04:41 am reply quote

re: #39 Derek

Interesting.

I was just thinking that Bush should 'immediately' look into prosecuting treason charges for Democrat official's.

I wish. sigh.

We'll see how far Barack Hussein Obamolini gets with this.

51 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 9:04:44 am reply quote

Out of bitterness they cling to guns and religion. legalism and obfuscation.

Years of unending special prosecution by the finest Marxist idealogue attorneys he can find. Feh.

52 Tumulus11  4/15/08 9:04:49 am reply quote

. The information will be reviewed by Attorney General Wright .

53 incanus  4/15/08 9:04:56 am reply quote

re: #11 jcm

I've asked a few with BDS I know.

What crimes? What statute would you charge him under?

Never, ever, has anyone come up with an actual prosecutable crime.

He's white.

He's "rich" (read, he's got money and he's not a Democrat).

He's a Republican.

Last but not least, HE STOLE THE ELECTION FROM ALGORE.

Sure, sure ... you say, "These aren't crimes now! Whaddya talking about." Patience darlin, patience ...

54 LanceKates  4/15/08 9:05:07 am reply quote

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm wondering when he'll start promising a chicken in every pot, a car in every garage and everyone earning an above average income.

Being a math major, I find that part funny.

Of course, I don't have a degree in electrical engineering.

55 Peacekeeper  4/15/08 9:05:15 am reply quote

re: #41 laZardo

Specifically speaking...
"COMMUNISLAMIST GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!"

Say it don't spray it.

56 JamesTKirk  4/15/08 9:05:16 am reply quote

When was the last time a Republican President was not accused of plotting a coup to stay in office after his term ended?

57 mean Gene  4/15/08 9:05:19 am reply quote

McCain might pull off a 46 or 47 state rout.
These two dems are pulling so far to the Left moonbat range that there's not going to be time to re-center themselves for the general election.
heh.

59 Shug  4/15/08 9:06:10 am reply quote

Obama's modified Dean Strategy

guns
god
Gays

60 tfc3rid  4/15/08 9:06:15 am reply quote

re: #46 Sacred Plants

Giuliani applying?

As McCain's AG perhaps.

61 solomonpanting  4/15/08 9:06:24 am reply quote
You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I’ve said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue

"BUT..."

62 Sharmuta  4/15/08 9:06:28 am reply quote

re: #23 incanus

Is it that simple, or is the mask coming off? I think he's so self-confident that he feels he can move to the left (or into the Marxist stratosphere, really) and still be a viable candidate.

Sure- who's going to stop him? The other marxist he's running against?

Seriously- we all know the dems want revenge. What better way to pander for their vote than to promise them red meat?

63 rw in san diego  4/15/08 9:06:29 am reply quote

re: #12 lawhawk


It has also kept terrorists securely locked away at Gitmo, which Obama and Hillary and McCain would like to see closed despite the fact that none offer up any plans for what they'd do with the terrorists detained there.


You'd think that would be an important question which should have been asked during the debates.

64 Ringo the Gringo  4/15/08 9:06:36 am reply quote

Any of you McCain haters still planning on staying home on election day?

65 jcm  4/15/08 9:06:37 am reply quote

re: #29 lawhawk

Who needs an actionable crime - they will simply have independent prosecutors look and root about until they can nail someone for a perjury trap or cite 'em for obstruction of justice.

Never mind that no laws were broken in all of this, that detention of terrorists at GitMo is fully within the US constitution and federal law and regulations and under the President's power as commander in chief.

They will simply investigate because that's all that they know how to do.

Don't you know it.

I've love leading those BDS around. It only takes about 60 seconds before the just start screaming "HE LIED HE LIED." Then they'll bring up BJ. I tell 'em he just didn't lie he committed a crime which people go to jail for PERJURY, and he got disbarred for it.

They're so easy to mess with.

66 zombie  4/15/08 9:06:53 am reply quote
He has to say this, whether it’s true or not. CODEPINK and International ANSWER and Daily Kos are going to want some payback for their messianic support, and they won’t be satisfied without blood.

I just found out: BEACH IMPEACH V -- yes, that's five -- has just been scheduled!

I so want them to succeed! Can you imagine how disastrous an impeachment trial would be for the Democrats, held right in the heat of a presidential election cycle? The vote would come probably in late October...

McCain 62 - Obama 31, if that happens.

Come on, impeachment movement, we're rooting for you!

You might even succeed in shortening the Bush administration by a week or so!

Then President Cheney can bomb Iran and grant pre-emptive presidential pardons to all his cronies during his one-week tenure.

67 incanus  4/15/08 9:07:01 am reply quote

re: #38 Sharmuta

So....he would have voted to convict clinton if he'd been in the Senate back then?

I was going to say "of course not, he's a Democrat", but he really seems to have a hard on for the Clintons.

68 LanceKates  4/15/08 9:07:04 am reply quote

re: #42 BuddyG

One of my moonbat co-workers says Bush should be charged for not granting Geneva convention rights to WoT detainees.
Oh, and Bush "lied" about WMDs.
Sigh...

You know, I've heard alot of people say that, but none of them can describe WHY they qualify for Geneva convention rights, especially when I explain the 'they dont wear a uniform, they target civilians and they execute captured prisoners' bit of the Convention.

But they still insist that they qualify.

Same with the lies. You point out that President Bush never actually said that they had nukes, just that they were seeking nukes... that doesn't seem to matter.

69 tfc3rid  4/15/08 9:07:05 am reply quote

re: #57 mean Gene

McCain might pull off a 46 or 47 state rout.
These two dems are pulling so far to the Left moonbat range that there's not going to be time to re-center themselves for the general election.
heh.

Not a chance... Electorally, this is going to be something like 290-250.

70 Ben Hur  4/15/08 9:07:17 am reply quote

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't) -

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."

5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.

6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.

Just so you know what to expect from the LLLs.

71 Sacred Plants  4/15/08 9:07:43 am reply quote

re: #60 tfc3rid

Also under a VP McCain?

72 Honorary Yooper  4/15/08 9:07:53 am reply quote

re: #47 laZardo

If those are internet polls, then I get the feeling it's an evolution (devolution!) of the Ron Paul Stacking Syndrome.

The Obamolini cult of personality is to the Ron Paul cult of personality what the Catholic Church is to the Egyptian Copts. It's magnitudes bigger.

73 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 9:07:53 am reply quote
You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I’ve said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue

After being urged to reconsider, Obama has just now announced that his first act as President will be to immediately look into impeaching President Bush.

74 lawhawk  4/15/08 9:08:03 am reply quote

re: #57 mean Gene

Don't believe that for a moment. This will still be a very close election. Even though the conventions are a couple of months away. There is more than enough time for both candidates to tack to the center, because the media will choose not to highlight all the hypocritical changes made to win the election at any costs and all the lies and misrepresentations needed for the Democrats to bamboozle their way into office.

75 taxfreekiller  4/15/08 9:08:18 am reply quote

Obomba ='s Black Jimmy Carter, on meath.!

Words Count Up.!

76 incanus  4/15/08 9:08:45 am reply quote

re: #56 JamesTKirk

When was the last time a Republican President was not accused of plotting a coup to stay in office after his term ended?

Abraham Lincoln?

77 paxnhymn  4/15/08 9:08:57 am reply quote

he may have to say that, but I also think he wholeheartedly agrees with it...

78 Golem Akbar  4/15/08 9:09:01 am reply quote

re: #47 laZardo

If those are internet polls, then I get the feeling it's an evolution (devolution!) of the Ron Paul Stacking Syndrome.


It's some kind of scheme like on-line gambling, I think. It's really just odds-makers taking bets on futures, or something like that. The funny thing is that it really does reflect, on some level, what people are thinking will be the outcome. Of course, outcomes are really tricky. They either come true or don't, so in reality, the odds are actually just 50-50.

I find the web site fun, but not really to be taken any more seriously than any of the other polls.

79 derek  4/15/08 9:09:07 am reply quote

re: #50 Honorary Yooper

Depressing, isn't it?

If Obama wins the nomination and steamrolls McCain, I hope Bush just says "fuck it", and drops fifty tonnes of ordnance on Iran and Syria - just before he leaves office.

There ya go, Obama.

Have fun with it.

80 zombie  4/15/08 9:09:14 am reply quote

Wow, Charles, my mouse accidentally passed over the news links (for the "Elections" category) in the right sidebar, and the little pop-up preview windows now contain photographs! Amazingly schnazzy looking! I never noticed that before.

81 Lively  4/15/08 9:09:22 am reply quote

re: #44 JamesTKirk

OT:

82 Occasional Reader  4/15/08 9:09:33 am reply quote

re: #65 jcm

It only takes about 60 seconds before the just start screaming "HE LIED HE LIED."

And they then start angrily demanding that you recognize that "I have a right to my opinion." Because, you see, by disagreeing with them, and making them think uncomfortable thoughts about their own cognitive dissonance, you were threatening their free speech rights...

83 tfc3rid  4/15/08 9:09:35 am reply quote

re: #76 incanus

Abraham Lincoln?

That's only because he was assassinated...

84 Sacred Plants  4/15/08 9:10:01 am reply quote

re: #76 incanus

Last instance of President and Vice President coming from different parties.

85 doppelganglander  4/15/08 9:10:32 am reply quote

re: #26 Occasional Reader

"With knowledge foreplay, I will investimigate if there were multimedia infractional situations of the Constipitution, which, roughly speaking, is like, all legal n' stuff."

Now I know who he reminds me of! Oswald Bates!

86 LanceKates  4/15/08 9:10:32 am reply quote

re: #83 tfc3rid

That's only because he was assassinated...

I think if you asked around, you may find a sizeable number of democrats who would say (off the record and under their breath) that assassination is how most republicans should end their political career.

87 tfc3rid  4/15/08 9:10:40 am reply quote

I don't believe polls for the life of me... I mean there is a Marist College poll for NY, showing McCain over Obama 48-47 from this past week...

I mean that is insane as I expect Obama to win NY by 30 points in November...

88 jcm  4/15/08 9:10:50 am reply quote

re: #53 incanus

He's white.

He's "rich" (read, he's got money and he's not a Democrat).

He's a Republican.

Last but not least, HE STOLE THE ELECTION FROM ALGORE.

Sure, sure ... you say, "These aren't crimes now! Whaddya talking about." Patience darlin, patience ...

LOL!

I hate to say it but I bait 'em. When I'm feeling extra ornery I can usually have 'em screaming at me in less than a minute.

89 zombie  4/15/08 9:10:50 am reply quote
10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't) -
...
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."

Oh, boy, that cuts it: I'm camping out in front of my polling station, starting now. I want to be the first to vote for McCain!

90 Dave the.....  4/15/08 9:10:56 am reply quote
1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.

I opposed that also (on the state level). To me it was about giving the government employees another paid day off. By me not getting my mail, how does that honor MLK? Some states, like Arizona, offered a deal. Lose a different day, like Columbus Day, in exchange for getting MLK day off from work. Gov't people said "no, we want more free time".

To college students in Wisc it meant they lost Easter Sunday with their parents. The UW system took away the day after Easter to in order to extend the winter break one more day (MOnday of MLK day). So if you lived 6 hours away, you had to leave early on Easter Sunday to get back to school.

91 Carl B  4/15/08 9:11:04 am reply quote

Early OT, but related
Jewish Liberals to Launch A Counterpoint to AIPAC

Some of the country's most prominent Jewish liberals are forming a political action committee and lobbying group aimed at dislodging what they consider the excessive hold of neoconservatives and evangelical Christians on U.S. policy toward Israel.

The lobbying group will be known as J Street and the political action group as JStreetPAC. The executive director for both will be Jeremy Ben-Ami, a former domestic policy adviser in the Clinton White House.

[Alan] Solomont is a top fundraiser for the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.),.). but the organizers include supporters and fundraisers for both Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y Many prominent figures in the American Jewish left, former lawmakers and U.S. government officials, and several prominent Israeli figures, as well as activists who have raised money for the Democracy Alliance and MoveOn.org, are also involved. Major liberal fundraisers have already committed to the venture, including Solomont, high-tech entrepreneur Davidi Gilo and former New York City corporation counsel Victor Kovner, a supporter of Clinton's presidential bid.

92 incanus  4/15/08 9:11:26 am reply quote

re: #62 Sharmuta

Sure- who's going to stop him? The other marxist he's running against?

Seriously- we all know the dems want revenge. What better way to pander for their vote than to promise them red meat?

I know, it's sad. If we start electing politicians to punish their predecessors as opposed to righting their wrongs, we are indeed on the path to banana-republicandom.

93 JamesTKirk  4/15/08 9:11:45 am reply quote

re: #81 Lively

So the parent doesn't want to lose the cell phone. Wow.

/probably voting Obama, too.

Lose the kid? Fine. Lose the cell phone? Bad.

I can't fathom how these people (for lack of a better word) "think".

94 sojerofgod  4/15/08 9:11:57 am reply quote

Obama would be the first to start the purge, if elected. I am firmly convinced that man would start persecuting his political opponents at the first opportunity. After all, that is what Marx would have done!
Obama is not proud to be an American.
He wants to remake this country into a Euro style socialist republic. That's why he always talks about what the government is going to 'do' for the people.
Notice its never about what the government is going to do 'TO' the people.

95 cod_is_great  4/15/08 9:12:03 am reply quote

One thing is certain. Obama will not be president after January 2013.

96 LanceKates  4/15/08 9:12:07 am reply quote

re: #90 Dave the.....

Well, it's just EASTER... not like it is as important as MLK day.

What, are you one of those small town guns and god people?!

/

97 Honorary Yooper  4/15/08 9:12:19 am reply quote

re: #62 Sharmuta

Sure- who's going to stop him? The other marxist he's running against?

Seriously- we all know the dems want revenge. What better way to pander for their vote than to promise them red meat?

Hillary may be a Marxist, but I would further and consider Obama to be a Third-wayer. I find it interesting to compare and contrast Obama's campaign with those of other people in the past. Marxists tend to be more forthright in what they want to do. Third-wayers tend to be more about "Change" and "Hope" in their campaigns.

Obama is very much about "Change", "Hope", and the cult of personality.

98 Iron Fist  4/15/08 9:12:22 am reply quote

re: #38 Sharmuta,

Of course not. Clinton is a Democrat. He gets a pass on Perjury. And on murder (remember Waco).

99 JamesTKirk  4/15/08 9:12:42 am reply quote

re: #86 LanceKates

I think if you asked around, you may find a sizeable number of democrats who would say (off the record and under their breath) that assassination is how most republicans should end their political career.

"A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen."
-Bloom County

100 Maximu§  4/15/08 9:13:05 am reply quote

The cards are on the table and its now obvious that anyone who supports Obama is a Stone Cold Raciest!

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

101 Ben Hur  4/15/08 9:13:12 am reply quote

Whelp, here's another one going the way of Lauren "I'd rather my children starve than another white person buy my album" Hill.

Alicia Keys: 'Gangsta Rap' Created to Convince Black People to Kill Each Other

NEW YORK — There's another side to Alicia Keys: conspiracy theorist.

The Grammy-winning singer-songwriter tells Blender magazine: "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."

Keys, 27, said she's read several Black Panther autobiographies and wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead," according to an interview in the magazine's May issue, on newsstands Tuesday.

Another of her theories: The bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."

Keys' AK-47 jewelry came as a surprise to her mother, who is quoted as telling Blender: "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia." Keys' publicist, Theola Borden, said Keys was on vacation and unavailable for comment.

Though she's known for her romantic tunes, she told Blender that she wants to write more political songs. If black leaders such as the late Black Panther Huey Newton "had the outlets our musicians have today, it'd be global. I have to figure out a way to do it myself," she said.

The multiplatinum songstress behind the hits "Fallin"' and "No One" most recently had success with her latest CD, "As I Am," which sold millions.

102 zombie  4/15/08 9:13:16 am reply quote