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Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:59:59 am PDT

Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie
Which we ascribe to heaven.

William Shakespeare

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1 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:02:55am

Ah the bard has spoken. He can be so quotable in many situations of life.

2 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:03:48am

morning, Blue!

3 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:03:50am

Mrng y'll

O Bama! Wert is thy sensz? -- Notorious B.I.L.

4 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:05:13am

re: #3 LC LaWedgie

[BLINK]

5 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:05:49am

re: #4 BabbaZee

lol!

6 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:05:51am

Morning Lizards!

7 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:08:46am

Good morning to all the early risers. Welcome to the fresh thread.

/freshly cleaned and minty fresh.

8 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:09:40am

Good morning, Lizards!

9 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:12:23am

Yes..a new thread..look at all this room.

10 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:12:34am
11 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:13:23am

Good Morning all - somebody mentioned coffee on the previous thread so I'll be back . . .

12 tigerwoman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:13:29am

I am sure someone has posted this link in another thread. I am sure Charles has a good reason for not making this story its own thread. I wanted to post it because I find it simply unbelievable.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

(Okay, please someone enlighten me as to how to post a link which shows the title of the article only instead of the whole address! Thanks!)

13 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:18:31am

re: #12 tigerwoman

I am sure someone has posted this link in another thread. I am sure Charles has a good reason for not making this story its own thread. I wanted to post it because I find it simply unbelievable.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

(Okay, please someone enlighten me as to how to post a link which shows the title of the article only instead of the whole address! Thanks!)

Type in the title you want. Highlight it by dragging your mouse across while holding down the left mouse button. Click the button up at the top of the writing screen that is supposed to look like 2 links of chain hooked together - the one farthest to the right. Paste the URL into the box that pops up. Click the OK button.

14 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:18:52am

re: #12 tigerwoman

Like this?

Brigitte Bardot on trial for Muslim slur

15 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:18:56am

re: #12 tigerwoman

Write the title of the article or paste it

Highlight it with your cursor

go to the tiny icon on the upper right over this box that looks like a chain link and hit it

place your link there

VOILA~

16 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:19:42am

re: #12 tigerwoman

I am sure someone has posted this link in another thread. I am sure Charles has a good reason for not making this story its own thread. I wanted to post it because I find it simply unbelievable.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

(Okay, please someone enlighten me as to how to post a link which shows the title of the article only instead of the whole address! Thanks!)

I agree this should have a thread to itself.

17 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:23:52am

re: #16 galloping granny

Witnessed!

BBL

Gonna go watch Turkey War part IV

/Three huge toms are strutting right outside my window

18 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:24:50am

re: #16 galloping granny

I agree this should have a thread to itself.

Seconded!

19 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:28:16am

Where is an Israeli Bulldozer when you need One? [Link: politicalmavens.com...]

20 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:30:08am

Good morning Lizards!
Have a good one - sun is shining here in the capital of Wales, but the wind from Siberia is freezing!
Gotta go and do some chores now, but really enjoyed (as always!) reading your night-time musings, jokes, tales and general advice.
BBL

21 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:31:20am
The U.S. State Department has issued a new “Travel Alert” on Mexico, warning of ongoing drug wars and advising that dozens of Americans were killed or kidnapped in one border city alone last year.

The Alert from the Department’s Bureau of Consular Affairs states:

“Violent criminal activity fueled by a war between criminal organizations struggling for control of the lucrative narcotics trade continues along the U.S.-Mexico border...

“Foreign visitors and residents, including Americans, have been among the victims of homicides and kidnappings in the border region...

“Recent Mexican army and police force conflicts with heavily-armed narcotics cartels have escalated to levels equivalent to military small-unit combat and have included use of machine guns and fragmentation grenades. Confrontations have taken place in numerous towns and cities in northern Mexico.”

[Link: www.newsmax.com...] ..I like posting this way...a little of the story..then you know if you want more or not.

22 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:32:08am

re: #20 yma o hyd

Good morning Lizards!
Have a good one - sun is shining here in the capital of Wales, but the wind from Siberia is freezing!
Gotta go and do some chores now, but really enjoyed (as always!) reading your night-time musings, jokes, tales and general advice.
BBL

Good bye yma.
(I suppose that is gaelic lol).
Is Cardiff the capital?

23 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:32:58am
The new legislation will let President Hugo Chavez further extend state control over foreign oil companies operating in Venezuela - home to the largest petroleum deposits in the Western Hemisphere - as he steers the nation toward what he calls ''21st-century socialism.''

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

24 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:34:08am

re: #23 storagemanager

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Venezuela has been badly outsized in deposits by Brazil, just last week.
Hehehe for Hugo.

25 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:34:38am

Hahaha - Obama is back to wearing an American flag pin. ROFLMAO! Can we question his patriotism now?

[Link: hotair.com...]

26 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:36:16am

re: #24 MigueldowninMexico

Venezuela has been badly outsized in deposits by Brazil, just last week.
Hehehe for Hugo.

I see both Chevron and BP use Venezuelan petroleum. We'll be very sure not to buy either of those brands.

27 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:37:58am

re: #25 galloping granny

Hahaha - Obama is back to wearing an American flag pin. ROFLMAO! Can we question his patriotism now?

[Link: hotair.com...]

At least his sincerity! So much for his principles as well...

28 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:39:04am
Kuwait City, 16 April (AKI) - All foreigners in Kuwait who are stopped by the police for running a red light, risk being expelled from the country.

This is a new measure that has been adopted by the interior ministry of the small emirate in order to reduce the number of traffic accidents in Kuwait.

According to a report on the local news agency Kuna, General Thabit al-Muhna, the deputy interior minister, announced the new measure for those who chose to violate the most basic of traffic rules

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

29 AndyMacOP  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:39:13am

Coffee is on! Who wants some?

30 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:39:46am

re: #27 goddessoftheclassroom

At least his sincerity! So much for his principles as well...

The only principle that Obama knows is to do whatever he thinks he has to to get where he wants to be.

31 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:40:19am
Islam: Fasting during Ramadan increases risk of rare stroke, says study

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

32 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:42:12am

re: #26 galloping granny

I see both Chevron and BP use Venezuelan petroleum. We'll be very sure not to buy either of those brands.

And you'll do the correct thing!
Chavez is becoming more unhinged by the hour. He's clinically nuts and his delusion can be dangeruos for others.
He even has his own private army now. I think it is four batallions who will dedicate themselves to guard the tyrant. The Pretorians.

I have good news btw. The Venezuelan ambassador in Mexico has just been kicked out the country, after about 10 months here, as he has been meddling in Mexican affairs and he was instrumental on Chavez's decision to steal -socialist style- Cemex and Bimbo two of the biggest Mexican companies, two of the biggest companies in the world too.
He was asked to leave yesterday.

33 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:42:57am

re: #25 galloping granny

Hahaha - Obama is back to wearing an American flag pin. ROFLMAO! Can we question his patriotism now?

[Link: hotair.com...]

Hahahaha. They'll (politicos) would do anything to win.

34 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:44:01am

re: #29 AndyMacOP

Coffee is on! Who wants some?

Thanks!
I just had my only cup of the day.
Enjoy your coffee :)

35 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:45:25am
Poland marks 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising and confirms strong ties with Israel

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

36 jcbunga  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:47:07am

Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie
Which we ascribe to heaven.

— William Shakespeare

Me is it or speak like Yoda Shakepeare does? Or doth?

37 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:47:43am

re: #36 jcbunga

Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie
Which we ascribe to heaven.

— William Shakespeare

Me is it or speak like Yoda Shakepeare does? Or doth?

That old blank verse makes Will do funny things!

38 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:47:52am

Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie
Which we ascribe to heaven.

— William Shakespeare


I live in a small town. I really don't like with when Charles quotes foreigners.

39 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:49:24am

re: #32 MigueldowninMexico

And you'll do the correct thing!
Chavez is becoming more unhinged by the hour. He's clinically nuts and his delusion can be dangeruos for others.
He even has his own private army now. I think it is four batallions who will dedicate themselves to guard the tyrant. The Pretorians.

I have good news btw. The Venezuelan ambassador in Mexico has just been kicked out the country, after about 10 months here, as he has been meddling in Mexican affairs and he was instrumental on Chavez's decision to steal -socialist style- Cemex and Bimbo two of the biggest Mexican companies, two of the biggest companies in the world too.
He was asked to leave yesterday.

Are you serious that he calls his private army the Praetorian Guards? Oh dear, he does have a case of emperor syndrome.

Good for Mexico. I could not believe it when I heard he was after the cement company! Sounds like the idiot has designs on some Union of Soviet Socialist America or some such

40 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:50:15am

re: #34 MigueldowninMexico

Thanks!
I just had my only cup of the day.
Enjoy your coffee :)

I'm having my "only" cup too. But the girls bought me a coffee bowl a few years back, so it is a really BIG cup.

41 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:50:40am

Good morning, lizards.

Jack Straw told he cannot block release of most dangerous criminals because it infringes their human rights

In May 2006, the Parole Board recommended Black's release on licence.

But the Home Secretary, whose role in such matters has now been taken over by the Justice Secretary, refused to comply, saying the 39-year-old still posed too great a risk of re-offending.

Yesterday, the court ruled that it was a breach of Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights for a Government minister alone - rather than a court - to reach such a decision.

Britain no longer has its own justice system.

Good luck with that.

42 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:52:05am

re: #39 galloping granny

He want's to make south America the new Rome...he has said that.

43 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:53:10am

re: #38 fat bastard vegetarian

Still clinging to your rifles and bible, cursing them furriners?

:)

44 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:53:10am

re: #40 galloping granny

Had a friend who was a pastor. There was a message left on his voice mail from someone telling him that she had a coffee urinal that he could pick up at any time.

Kind of like a coffee bowl, no?

45 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:53:54am

re: #42 storagemanager

He want's to make south America the new Rome...he has said that.

He has a a rather grave misunderstanding of Rome then.

46 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:54:33am

Got to run off--y'all take care and have a great day!

47 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:54:38am

re: #25 galloping granny

Hahaha - Obama is back to wearing an American flag pin. ROFLMAO! Can we question his patriotism now?

[Link: hotair.com...]

Good Morning Lizards,
I thought that he thought that wearing a flag lapel pin was a vulgar display of 'patriotism on the cheap" Hmm.
I am confused, right after his "Bitter"small town rubes story broke there was a poll that had him down 20 points in Penn. Now they are showing 6 points.
Which is it?

48 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:54:49am

re: #39 galloping granny

Are you serious that he calls his private army the Praetorian Guards? Oh dear, he does have a case of emperor syndrome.

Good for Mexico. I could not believe it when I heard he was after the cement company! Sounds like the idiot has designs on some Union of Soviet Socialist America or some such

No, no, the Pretorians was my idea of calling them.
He calls them "Special Forces" or somesuch.
Cemex is very important.
And so is Bimbo, the fourth most important food company in the world.
Chavez stealed Bimbo Venezuela in January or February.

49 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:54:57am

re: #40 galloping granny

Something like the beginning of "So I Married an Axe Murder?" where Mike Myers goes, "No you must have misunderstood me, I wanted the LARGE cup of coffee."

/after being handed a cup containing half a pot of coffee.

50 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:56:18am

re: #41 godfrey

Good morning, lizards.

Jack Straw told he cannot block release of most dangerous criminals because it infringes their human rights

Britain no longer has its own justice system.

Good luck with that.

The "government" of any of the EU countries exists at this point only to rubber stamp the decisions of those who really rule the EU.

51 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:56:24am

Dork.......

Just before Prime Minister Gordon Brown's trip to Washington, he leaked a gratuitous media insult to George W. Bush, with whom he meets today. Said the UK Telegraph, in a big headline, "Gordon Brown calls for revival of US greatness."


"Gordon Brown is to urge the next American president to re-engage with the world and show the kind of leadership America demonstrated in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War. ... His message will be conveyed to all three candidates for the White House in back-to-back meetings during his trip to the United States this week

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

52 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:56:57am

re: #49 BlueCanuck

I have used that line a bunch of times in restaraunts when they bring a Mr. Creosote volume of food to the table.

53 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:57:08am

re: #47 opnion

Good Morning Lizards,
I thought that he thought that wearing a flag lapel pin was a vulgar display of 'patriotism on the cheap" Hmm.
I am confused, right after his "Bitter"small town rubes story broke there was a poll that had him down 20 points in Penn. Now they are showing 6 points.
Which is it?

I suspect that the 6 is rigged.

54 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:58:14am

re: #49 BlueCanuck

Something like the beginning of "So I Married an Axe Murder?" where Mike Myers goes, "No you must have misunderstood me, I wanted the LARGE cup of coffee."

/after being handed a cup containing half a pot of coffee.

Yup - that kind.

55 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:58:31am

re: #52 fat bastard vegetarian

Ah, Mr. Creosote. Fat Bastards of the worlds greatest heroe. ;)

56 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:59:23am

re: #53 galloping granny

I suspect that the 6 is rigged.

It looks really odd. Was the 6% poll before or after Barry or after Barry stepped in it?
Te fact is ,if the MSM is schilling for him & he gets swamped,it willlook worse.

57 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 3:59:55am

Morning all!
I love the smell of a fresh new thread- before all the bitter people get on.
....Umm, am I too late?

58 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:00:20am

re: #57 Jim in Virginia

Morning all!
I love the smell of a fresh new thread- before all the bitter people get on.
....Umm, am I too late?

Just in time Jim ;)

59 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:01:02am

Charlie Mackenzie: Woman... woe-man... whoooa-man. She was a thief, you gotta believe, she stole my heart and my cat. Betty, Judy, Josie and those hot Pussycats... they make me horny, Saturday morny... girls of cartoo-ins will leave me in ruins... I want to to be Betty's Barney. Hey Jane... get me off this crazy thing... called love.

From "So I Married An Axe Murderer"

and

Charlie Mackenzie: Excuse me, miss? There seems to be a mistake. I believe I ordered the *large* cappuccino. *Hello!* Look at the size of this thing.
Tony Giardino: It's practially a bowl.
Charlie Mackenzie: It's like Campbell's Cup-O'-ccino!

60 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:01:37am

re: #55 BlueCanuck

Ah, Mr. Creosote. Fat Bastards of the worlds greatest heroe. ;)

Just one thin mint.

61 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:01:55am

re: #57 Jim in Virginia

Depends on your definition of bitter. Good morning JiV.

/mellowing out quite nicely here, an hour to go.

62 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:02:33am

re: #60 Jim in Virginia

Just one thin mint.

wafer thin

63 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:02:38am

re: #56 opnion

It looks really odd. Was the 6% poll before or after Barry or after Barry stepped in it?
Te fact is ,if the MSM is schilling for him & he gets swamped,it willlook worse.

One thing to clearly keep at the front of your mind about polls and statistics: it is easier by far to rig them to show what you want than it is to write them correctly so that you get an honest picture. Most polls and statistics are slanted.

So, before anybody asks Why would they do this - easy: people are often ship. They tend to vote for who they think is the most popular so they are on the winning side.

BTW - Fox just showed clips that have suddenly magically appeared of Obama playing basketball in high school. How fast can we say pandering?

64 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:02:49am

Miguel! Como esta?
(Sorry, I can't do the upside down punctuation thingie.)

65 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:02:55am

And time for me to go, btw.
Good bye and God bless all :)

66 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:03:44am

re: #59 fat bastard vegetarian

Ok so I mangled the quote a bit. :)

/actually it's been awhile since I have seen it.
//wasn't it a latte actually? don't remember the foam on top.

67 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:03:57am

re: #63 galloping granny

One thing to clearly keep at the front of your mind about polls and statistics: it is easier by far to rig them to show what you want than it is to write them correctly so that you get an honest picture. Most polls and statistics are slanted.

So, before anybody asks Why would they do this - easy: people are often ship sheep. They tend to vote for who they think is the most popular so they are on the winning side.

BTW - Fox just showed clips that have suddenly magically appeared of Obama playing basketball in high school. How fast can we say pandering?

/PIMF - need more coffee.

68 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:04:12am

re: #64 Jim in Virginia

Miguel! Como esta?
(Sorry, I can't do the upside down punctuation thingie.)

I'm ok Jim, thank you. (Don't worry about the mark lol)
I hope you're doing fine too!
I'm in the brink of fading out lol ;)

69 sparrowlake  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:04:26am

re: #51 storagemanager
The Marshall Plan came after the war was won, not during it. During the war the job was to destroy the enemy.

70 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:04:37am

re: #61 BlueCanuck
We made our reservations for Cape Breton the end of June. I'm psyched for a vacation.
Is the Royal Tattoo in Halifax a good show? (Would thirteen year old girls like it?)

71 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:05:03am

re: #66 BlueCanuck

I don't know...went over to my friend and your's IMDB. Seem to remember foam, though.

72 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:05:46am

Good night Miguel, maybe see you tomorrow. I think it's time for me to sign off for the night. With the day shift here with coffee cups in hands I bow out to stage right.

/works getting busy, time to go. :)

73 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:06:49am

re: #72 BlueCanuck

Enjoy your day. Work is busy? Great!

74 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:07:29am

re: #67 galloping granny
But polls are scientifically accurate so any variation in election results from polling data is proof of ballot tampering. Or the Bradley effect.
/sarc off

75 BlueCanuck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:08:28am

re: #70 Jim in Virginia

Oooh the Royal Tattoo. If they like drums and pipe bands they should. Worth the viewing. In Cape Breton you must go to Lake Bra'dor and visit the Alexander Graham Bell museum. I remember going there in '82 as a kid. If you luck out you may see it in the rain. Very scottish highland like.

/and now I am out.

76 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:11:08am
NEW YORK - Unease with Pope Benedict XVI's approach to Islam has led a U.S. Muslim group to decline joining in an interfaith event with him later this week

Several other U.S. Muslim leaders expressed similar concerns about the pope, but pledged to participate in the Washington gathering, saying the two faiths should do everything possible to improve relations.

“Our going there is more out of respect for the Catholic Church itself,” said Muzammil H. Siddiqi, chairman of the Fiqh Council of North America, which interprets Islamic law. “Popes come and go, but the church is there.”

Siddiqi, co-chairman of the West Coast Muslim-Catholic Dialogue, is among the Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Jain and Hindu leaders scheduled to meet Benedict on Thursday at the Pope John Paul II Cultural Center

That terrorist toad is one of the reasons we moved..he was turning Orange county,California into Mecca light. [Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

77 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:12:59am

re: #70 Jim in Virginia

We made our reservations for Cape Breton the end of June. I'm psyched for a vacation.
Is the Royal Tattoo in Halifax a good show? (Would thirteen year old girls like it?)

If you are taking a 13 year old girl to Cape Breton you must take a detour to Prince Edward Island to see the Anne of Avonlea house!

78 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:17:51am

They are talking about the polls on Fox right now - "the polls were polls of rank and file democratic voters"

79 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:20:42am

re: #57 Jim in Virginia

If you had all these prodigal chickens to feed, you'd be bitter, too.

80 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:25:33am

You wonder how much this Shakespeare quote says about religion today...

81 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:27:54am

re: #78 galloping granny
The only polls i like are Brass and on a stage

82 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:29:54am

re: #67 galloping granny

/PIMF - need more coffee.

Ya know I did think of that.But if BHO goes down in double digits,he will look underachieving

83 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:31:43am

re: #81 LeftJustAintRight

That's how they chose Pope John Paul...first they "took a Pole"

84 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:32:15am

re: #78 galloping granny

They are talking about the polls on Fox right now - "the polls were polls of rank and file democratic voters"

So ,I wonder if the 20% figure is the general populace.
But the poll was Dem primary not general election.
Where's my coffee?l

85 Roger  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:34:21am

Conscription in the State Department!

86 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:34:57am

Good Morning all! 37degrees as the rosy fingered dawn touches the sky over Chambodia; supposed to get up to 71, which means perfect weather to nurse a cold.

We're having some silly event on campus which means I don't have to teach, though I still have to show up. Get to put on my fancy robes etc.

87 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:35:04am
Israel is such an element in our region that is not natural. It was set up by oppressive world powers. Zionist state is not acceptable. It will end and cease to exist. It will be replaced with a democratic government of Palestine," the religious leader said.

......

On Pakistan-Iran relations, he said the relations were special and had been cemented over the years.

"Pakistan-Iran relations are deep rooted and cannot get strained in any way. Leaders of both countries have announced that we have excellent relations.

Both countries should work for uniting the Ummah and strengthening the Islamic brotherhood.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

88 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:35:31am

re: #85 Roger

Conscription in the State Department!

For a minute I thought that said "constipation"

89 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:36:06am

re: #86 Lucius Septimius
graduation already?

90 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:37:14am

re: #83 fat bastard vegetarian
I wouldn't touch that with a 5 foot eight and a half inch Pole.

91 Roger  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:37:20am

re: #86 Lucius Septimius

Not even a question of boxers or briefs, eh!

92 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:38:26am

re: #78 galloping granny

They are talking about the polls on Fox right now - "the polls were polls of rank and file democratic voters"


So they miss Rush's CHAOS (KAOS?) effect.

93 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:38:45am

re: #67 galloping granny

/PIMF - need more coffee.

Obama Playing basketball? Well you know bowling is not his game.
Hey,he can't dance either. He looks like a sissy boy, when he does.

94 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:39:21am

Gotta go, See ya

95 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:39:55am
(IsraelNN.com) Security in Russia has been tightened around synagogues for the Passover holiday, which coincides this year with the birthday of Adolph Hitler. The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia (FJCR) said it would tighten up security arrangements, as it does every year, "because we receive warnings about possible provocations from law enforcement services," Interfax reported.

In the Ukraine, the Federation is concerned about allegations that Jews actively cooperated with Ukrainian nationalist groups during the Second World War. "There is clear confidence among the Holocaust scholars that Jews had never voluntarily been members of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. Attempts to unearth such 'facts' have been made for half a century and do not look as sensation to historians because they do not reflect reality," an FJCR spokesman told Interfax.


[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

96 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:41:26am

re: #67 galloping granny

Pandering! Pandering! Pandering!

As to the polls, if Obama is shown to be narrowing the gap, that could work against him in the primary. Primaries are won with a core of highly motivated supporters, and nothing motivates them like the need to get out the vote. That said, turnout in primaries is generally pretty low, and if Obama supporters get cocky and believe they have narrowed the gap sufficiently, some of them might stay home; meanwhile the Clintonistas, seeing the lead in jeopardy, could mobilize to take it back.

Primaries are weird, voter pattern-wise.

97 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:42:19am

re: #93 opnion

Obama Playing basketball? Well you know bowling is not his game.
Hey,he can't dance either. He looks like a sissy boy, when he does.

Haven't seen him dance. One of the benefits of being black; even if you can't dance, white people think you can.

98 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:42:34am

So Jimmah and Rosalyn laid a wreath at arafat's grave. Gosh, I'd like to leave something there as well. Jimmah is full of the stuff I'd like to leave.

99 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:43:04am

re: #96 Lucius Septimius

So you're getting all "Harry Potter'ed" up today?

100 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:43:12am

re: #89 Jim in Virginia

graduation already?

No, not yet -- an "honor's" day. It's ok. The students present their work and faculty just sort of mill around. I'll probably just serve cocktails in my office. Later we have an awards assembly.

101 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:43:36am

re: #91 Roger

Semper ubi sub ubi.

102 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:44:07am

re: #99 fat bastard vegetarian

So you're getting all "Harry Potter'ed" up today?

Sort of. I'll keep the wand out of sight, though.

103 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:45:48am

re: #85 Roger

Conscription in the State Department!

Gee, foreign service officers having to serve in a, gasp, foreign country!

/obviously, some people chose the wrong career

104 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:45:52am

re: #102 Lucius Septimius

My son's graduation was the first college graduation I had ever seen and the sceptors, the mortarboards, but mostly the colorful crazy caps (swear I saw a court jester cap) just made me sit there in awe (as in "Awe shit, did you see that one?!")

I know. I'm such a rube!

105 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:47:13am

The Great Dictator is on

GOD Love Charlie Chaplin

106 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:47:31am

re: #100 Lucius Septimius

No, not yet -- an "honor's" day. It's ok. The students present their work and faculty just sort of mill around. I'll probably just serve cocktails in my office. Later we have an awards assembly.

Kind of like an elementary school science fair?

107 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:48:03am

re: #102 Lucius Septimius

I actually thought all the robes at graduation were interesting-I especially like the special velvet hats. you need a major guide book to understand all the robes, collars(?) and hats. I only went to my grad school graduation- and I have no idea what I wore- colors, cap- nothing. I am not sure my folks took photos. It was at my kids graduations that I looked at all the robes, hats and assorted other regalia.

108 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:48:07am

re: #104 fat bastard vegetarian

My son's graduation was the first college graduation I had ever seen and the sceptors, the mortarboards, but mostly the colorful crazy caps (swear I saw a court jester cap) just made me sit there in awe (as in "Awe shit, did you see that one?!")

I know. I'm such a rube!

One of my professors was a graduate of a UK university. His cap and gown was bright orange with a huge white ruff ala Queen Elizabeth. Rather colorful.

109 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:48:32am

Free Rice

/clever and useful

110 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:48:34am

re: #80 laZardo

You wonder how much this Shakespeare quote says about religion today...

Jesus said it first.

111 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:48:37am

re: #106 fat bastard vegetarian

Kind of like an elementary school science fair?

Lucius...I meant the "cocktails" part.

112 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:49:01am

Must see the photo.....Outside this mosque in Anaheim, California (State College Drive) we finally got definitive evidence of two things:

1. Word has been out in the Islamic community worldwide for some time (specially Indonesia and Malaysia) to begin overt support for Obama.

2. We heard rumors of the Islamic Republic of Iran also passing the word to their American agents and clerics to support Obama but had nothing tangible until now.

The photo above was taken during the last week of March, 2008 by an AntiMullah person who happened to see this woman and was delighted to have a camera on hand.

...Note the "bilingual" aspect uses English lettering for Persian (not Arabic) words to reach a broader audience than writing it in Farsi (Persian) fonts.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

113 Roger  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:49:08am

re: #105 BabbaZee

View all 2 comments?

114 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:49:45am

re: #113 Roger

View all 2 comments?

Uccch!

115 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:50:15am

re: #108 galloping granny

One of my professors was a graduate of a UK university. His cap and gown was bright orange with a huge white ruff ala Queen Elizabeth. Rather colorful.

I once went to the Lord Mayor's Show in London. It is a big parade in November- they have really cool carriages(I thought they only existed in Disney movies). The various important(?) personages wear wigs, wonderful robes and hats- and hand puppets! I do not understand the hand puppet thing. Buzz? Any other Brits here?

116 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:50:49am

re: #114 BabbaZee

Did you see the Robert Downey, Jr. Chaplain movie? Was amazing. And, "Hi Babba"!

117 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:51:06am

BTW when Chaplin made that movie
USA was mired in isolationism
and people were fellating Hitler all over the world

That movie was a hugely radical thing to do

118 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:51:54am

re: #104 fat bastard vegetarian

No, it's cool.

My robe is this big old thing with huge sleeves and a poofy hat. I love wearing it. It makes me look sort of like this guy, albeit a bit thinner.

119 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:52:09am

re: #116 fat bastard vegetarian

YES. Only he could have done it. Or Tim Curry ...but he was too old already.

I love RDJ
/what a waste of talent

120 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:52:45am

re: #111 fat bastard vegetarian

"yes" to both. LOL.

121 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:53:08am

re: #119 BabbaZee

YES. Only he could have done it. Or Tim Curry ...but he was too old already.

I love RDJ
/what a waste of talent

Oh no, he's coming back. Has a hell of a new movie coming out! Can't wait to see it. IRON MAN!

122 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:54:19am

re: #118 Lucius Septimius

So you have the velvet hat thing! Very NICE!

123 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:54:54am

re: #121 fat bastard vegetarian

I don't know that "Iron Man" counts as a comeback or is merely a way to pay rent

IMO it is beneath him
but I am a notorious snob
LOL

124 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:55:10am

re: #118 Lucius Septimius

Now I have a permanent visual of you. Thanks!

Here's a visual that you all can use for me. Glen Beck. I was told that all of the time before he stopped wearing the glasses.

125 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:55:23am

re: #122 madisonsfriend

It's square, like me.

126 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:56:01am

re: #123 BabbaZee

I respectfully disagree while blowing kisses in your general direction.

127 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:56:37am

Iron man is cool. Don't know about the movie, the comic books were great.

128 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:57:06am

re: #126 fat bastard vegetarian

Men do generally like those kind of movies

Me?
I could do without all the comic remakes

129 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:57:26am

re: #64 Jim in Virginia

Miguel! Como esta?
(Sorry, I can't do the upside down punctuation thingie.)

"¿" = "¿"

"¡" = "¡"

130 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:58:05am

re: #127 Lucius Septimius

Iron man is cool. Don't know about the movie, the comic books were great.

Love superhero movies when real actors are put into the roles. Not just someone who looks right, but someone who can give the hero "flesh and bones". Think Bobby's gonna do just that. Trailer's I have seen look great.

131 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:23am

re: #88 Lucius Septimius

re: #85 Roger
Conscription in the State Department!

For a minute I thought that said "constipation"

When the State Department stops spewing crap, I think we'll notice.

132 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:52am

re: #131 JamesTKirk

When the State Department stops spewing crap, I think we'll notice.



nevah
gonna
happen

133 Izzy Dunne  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:00:36am

AVATAR test.
I'm in a small town in rural Maine, clinging to my guitar in times of trouble.

134 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:01:45am

re: #105 BabbaZee

Hitler ruined a perfectly good mustache style.

135 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:01:58am

If they film in in constnat cut aways like they do everything these days I wont be able to watch it

Vodeo game cutaways I call it

It is my belief this is why they all have so -called "ADD" too

you are laying wiring in your brain when you are a kid
These kids are all wired in 12 second video game cutaways

therefore, 12 second attention spans

simple

136 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:20am

Video

vodeo doe doe

137 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:34am

re: #134 laZardo

Hitler ruined a perfectly good mustache style.

BASTID!

138 Roger  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:41am

re: #133 Izzy Dunne

Man are YOU bitter!

139 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:08am
140 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:08am

Good morning, all...

Nice day to get started on that Spring (2005) cleaning...

141 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:31am

So far, everything about "Iron Man" looks good. I love a well-done superhero movie, but there aren't nearly enough of those.

142 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:35am

re: #137 BabbaZee

ESSACLY!

143 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:04am

re: #134 laZardo

Hitler ruined a perfectly good mustache style.

Really? I don't think it was truly considered evil until J. Jonah Jameson adopted it.

144 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:27am

re: #134 laZardo

Hitler ruined a perfectly good mustache style.

[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]

145 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:34am

MLK's niece knows the eugenicist racist roots of abortion


[SNIP]
King continued, "We create the deceptions that the other person is less important, less worthy, less human."

“We are all fully human. When we face this truth, there is no justification for treating those who look different than us as lesser beings. If we simply treat other people the way we’d like to be treated, racism, abortion, and other forms of inhumanity will be things of the past,” she said.

King, who had two abortions, has spoken frequently at pro-life rallies about the traumatic, lingering effects of abortion on women and its connection to racism.

[SNIP]


Take that, Obamanable Snowjobman

146 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:10am

re: #141 JamesTKirk

I don't know of any well done superhero movies.

Unless you consider Josey Wales a superhero like I do

lol

147 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:49am

re: #145 BabbaZee

She's gonna be ostracized as an...wait...what's the female version of an Uncle Tom?

148 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:17am

re: #146 BabbaZee

I don't know of any well done superhero movies.

149 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:17am

re: #147 laZardo

She's gonna be ostracized as an...wait...what's the female version of an Uncle Tom?

Uppity Negress?

150 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:43am

re: #148 JamesTKirk

I dont think I can stand two hours of Trey and Matt.
LOL

151 Izzy Dunne  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:12am

re: #140 christheprofessor

Nice day to get started on that Spring (2005) cleaning...

Nothing like a clean spring to put that bounce in your step.

152 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:10am

re: #149 BabbaZee

RACSIT!

/but yeah, for some reason it's not [insert minority here] enough to take conservative stances on certain issues. =_=

153 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:23am

Good morning again Lizards!

Saving kids from the tyranny of "tag"

154 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:20am

re: #150 BabbaZee

But... but...

155 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:09am

re: #146 BabbaZee

ROFL

156 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:11am
157 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:24am

re: #155 christheprofessor

{CTP}

158 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:23am

re: #151 Izzy Dunne

Dammit! That reminds me -- I have to do laundry as well... ;)

159 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:23am

re: #152 laZardo

Fuck 'em.

160 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:42am

re: #154 JamesTKirk

meh

161 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:26am

re: #121 fat bastard vegetarian

Oh no, he's coming back. Has a hell of a new movie coming out! Can't wait to see it. IRON MAN!

Yup, looks to be one seriously bad ass movie, all the very best of Hollyweirds skill and talent, sadly this of course means that somewhere in the movie they will inject their straight out of hell politics. The only question will be will they infect the movie with that crap until it poisons the movie, or will it be just sufficient to make a few scenes stink.

Oh and Good morning lizards near and far..... ;)

162 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:10am
163 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:20am

re: #161 doriangrey

Batman Begins was the only worthwhile comic book movie I've seen in a while. The only "politics" was the mention of Wayne Enterprises going into "heavy armaments" while Bruce was gone.

164 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:26am

re: #153 rightside

Morning Right Side

165 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:39am

re: #153 rightside

Good morning again Lizards!

Saving kids from the tyranny of "tag"

So I understand bungee jumping at a school event could be dangerous- but scuba diving? And what schools have bungee jumping and scuba diving at school events?

166 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:54am

Good Morning Lizards.

It actually looks like the weather is finally warming up a bit out there today. I hope you are all doing well.

167 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:17am

re: #163 laZardo

Batman Begins was the only worthwhile comic book movie I've seen in a while. The only "politics" was the mention of Wayne Enterprises going into "heavy armaments" while Bruce was gone.

Well personally I loved Christopher Reeves in the original Superman and thought Nickolas Cage did a bang up job as Johnny Blaze in Ghost Rider and if you haven't seen in Spawn.... Well I don't know what to tell you....

168 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:23am

My father sent me this:

An Amish farmer, walking through his field, notices a man kneeling down and drinking from his farm pond.

The Amish farmer shouts:

'Trink das wasser nicht. Die kuhen haben dahin gesheissen.' (Which means: 'Don't drink the water, the pigs have crapped in it.')

The kneeling man shouts back:

'I'm a Muslim, I don't understand you. I speak Arabic and English. If you can't speak in the sacred tongue of Islam, speak in English.'

The Amish farmer says:

'Use two hands, you'll get more.'

169 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:22am

re: #167 doriangrey

Oh yeah, the classic Superman movies (I and II at least...) Reminds me of this one South Park episode where Reeves gained superpowers from stem cells and it was up to Gene "Lex Luthor" Hackman to stop him. XD

170 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:43am

bleccch to both Reeves and to Nepotism Cage from here

lol

171 grumpy old codger  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:56am

re: #149 BabbaZee
Aunt Jemima?

172 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:06am

re: #171 grumpy old codger

LOL
She made a helluva pancake.

173 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:19am

re: #162 BabbaZee

{Dorian}

Morning BabbaZee.... ((BabbaZee))

174 hayseed  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:02am

Good Mornin All

175 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:33am

re: #174 hayseed

Good Mornin All

Morning hayseed....

176 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:04am

re: #165 madisonsfriend

So I understand bungee jumping at a school event could be dangerous- but scuba diving? And what schools have bungee jumping and scuba diving at school events?

What schools had bungee jumping in the first place?

177 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:22am

re: #164 BabbaZee

Morning Babba, I'll have to look at that link during lunchtime.


re: #165 madisonsfriend

So I understand bungee jumping at a school event could be dangerous- but scuba diving? And what schools have bungee jumping and scuba diving at school events?

No idea! maybe the ones who have fencing, sword swallowing, etc. LOL

178 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:54am

re: #170 BabbaZee

bleccch to both Reeves and to Nepotism Cage from here

lol



179 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:42am
180 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:54am

Big Country

/one hit wonder from the '80s

181 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:23am

Morning dorian, hayseed, et. al.

182 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:37am

re: #178 storagemanager

YAY!

183 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:50am

Good Morning Masters of the Obvious!

184 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:12am

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOORNING Lizards!
Did you all see the vid of the beast having a shot and a beer? There is a scary picture. I bet she's a mean drunk.

185 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:22am

re: #181 rightside

Morning dorian, hayseed, et. al.

Good morning rightside....

186 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:29am
187 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:18am

re: #184 pingjockey

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOORNING Lizards!
Did you all see the vid of the beast having a shot and a beer? There is a scary picture. I bet she's a mean drunk.


You see this pic?........
[Link: farsiposts.blogspot.com...]

188 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:43am

re: #184 pingjockey

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOORNING Lizards!
Did you all see the vid of the beast having a shot and a beer? There is a scary picture. I bet she's a mean drunk.

Heh heh heh yup I saw it and thought to myself, well there is an image profound enough to make many a man quit drinking out of fear of finding himself in a bar with her...

189 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:00am

re: #186 BabbaZee

My favorite superhero when I was little

I watched that also.

190 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:25am

re: #186 BabbaZee
I wish they'd put Rocky and Bullwinkle on DVD. The youngest was watching George of the jungle, but it was the new one...Boo!

191 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:28am

re: #186 BabbaZee

My favorite superhero when I was little

ROTFLMAO.... somehow this does not surprise me in the least...

192 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:33am
193 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:56am

re: #186 BabbaZee

Who is it?

195 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:39am

re: #193 rightside

Underdog

Under ZOG

lol

196 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:58am

re: #187 storagemanager
Ain't that special! Those loons really, really want their Manchurian candidate don't they.

197 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:06am

Little Mahmoud joins some elite company by going Troofer.

Leftist-Islamist convergence in full force.

198 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:18am

When are they going to make the Johnny Quest or Secret Squirrel movies?

/I mean they have no shame, they made a live action Flintstones for cripes sakes!

199 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:51am
"Four or five years ago, a suspicious event occurred in New York. A building collapsed and they said that 3,000 people had been killed but never published their names," Ahmadinejad told Iranians in the holy city of Qom.

Under this pretext, the U.S. "attacked Afghanistan and Iraq and since then a million people have been killed only in Iraq," Ahmadinejad said in the speech broadcast live on state-run television.

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

200 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:04am

re: #188 doriangrey
Wake up next to her and you'd gnaw your own arm off to get out of bed so you wouldn't wake her up!

201 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:09am

re: #200 pingjockey

Won't win any popularity contests with this one, but I actually thought it was cool. She took it like the man she is.

202 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:15am
203 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:38am

re: #198 Killian Bundy
My mom didn't like Johnny Quest. Thought it was too violent. Of course I thought it was cool!

204 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:55am

re: #190 pingjockey

I wish they'd put Rocky and Bullwinkle on DVD.

/did you try looking?

205 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:58am

re: #202 rightside

Who remembers klunk?

"And Klunk, you invent me a thingamabob
That catches that pigeon, or I'll lose my job!
So, stop the pigeon... stop the pigeon..."

206 OtisMyMan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:34am

re: #199 storagemanager

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

Qom again?

207 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:47am

re: #205 JamesTKirk

208 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:07am

re: #190 pingjockey

I wish they'd put Rocky and Bullwinkle on DVD. The youngest was watching George of the jungle, but it was the new one...Boo!

Ever See Arnold Schwarzenegger and Kirk Douglas do the Wiley E Coyote Road Runner routine in "The Villain"?

209 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:28am

re: #201 fat bastard vegetarian
Mike Reagan and Bob Beckel were on Fox AM and Reagan cracked me up. Said Obamarama was going to do a bong hit before tonites circus!

210 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:02am

Good Morning, Lizards! Spring has sprung in Michigan, as evidenced by:

Today's forecasted high of 65+
A pair of Killdeer on the nest in my yard with 4 eggs
Big, fat, well-fed Robins feasting on worms everywhere
My weeping willow is in bud
The dogs are looking for sunglasses!

So, in honor of this beautiful morning.

I double-dog-dare-ya not to smile!

211 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:20am

re: #204 Killian Bundy
Why thank you Killian. (hangs head) Didn't look.

212 OtisMyMan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:41am

re: #209 pingjockey

That should be Bob Shmeckel.

213 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:45am

re: #203 pingjockey

My mom didn't like Johnny Quest. Thought it was too violent. Of course I thought it was cool!

Heh heh heh I was a total Johnny Quest junkie as a kid...

214 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:49am

Babba! watch...

215 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:07am

re: #208 doriangrey
That was a very silly movie, but fun.

216 looking closely  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:20am

This one is threadworthy:

French Actress Brigitte Bardot sued for defaming Islam.

High profile targets always make the best ones for legal intimidation, don't you know.

217 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:01am

re: #210 Grammy Cracker

Good Morning, Lizards! Spring has sprung in Michigan, as evidenced by:

Today's forecasted high of 65+
A pair of Killdeer on the nest in my yard with 4 eggs
Big, fat, well-fed Robins feasting on worms everywhere
My weeping willow is in bud
The dogs are looking for sunglasses!

So, in honor of this beautiful morning.

I double-dog-dare-ya not to smile!

sigh.... when music was still innocent and fun....

218 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:32am

re: #212 OtisMyMan
Bob Beckel, Susanne Estrich, Richard Simmons, Jon (halp uz) Cary, I could go own and own about folks I'd like to smack with a bat.

219 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:48am

re: #186 BabbaZee
Question for you. If some former stainmaster was giving a speech a ten minute bike ride from me, what would be a good sign to wave?
Not Bitter
Lizard Army
Re-Unite Pangea

Ideas?

220 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:48am

re: #211 pingjockey

Always remember.

/if Amazon doesn't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway

221 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:26am

re: #210 Grammy Cracker

Good Morning. I'm flying up to Ada this Friday. Is the weather going to stay nice? Or should I pack a heavy coat?

222 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:06am

re: #215 pingjockey

That was a very silly movie, but fun.

Yup, but Kirk Douglas portrayal of Cactus Jack ala Wiley E. Coyote was totally priceless....

223 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:17am

re: #219 ec marm

Question for you. If some former stainmaster was giving a speech a ten minute bike ride from me, what would be a good sign to wave?
Not Bitter
Lizard Army
Re-Unite Pangea

Ideas?


Use all three

REUNITE PANGEA

Signed
The Lizard Army
/we are not bitter

224 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:40am

re: #214 fat bastard vegetarian

cute!

225 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:32am

re: #222 doriangrey

Yup, but Kirk Douglas portrayal of Cactus Jack ala Wiley E. Coyote was totally priceless....

Except he's Daffy Duck in this clip:

226 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:45am

Sports Nerd Corner:

Tiger Woods had third surgery on left knee.


Tiger Woods had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Tuesday to repair cartilage damage, his second operation in five years on the same knee. He is expected to miss at least a month while he recovers.

This is actually Woods third surgery on that knee. The reason Woods is damaging his left knee is he "jumps" at the ball, lunging his weight forward and hyperextending his left knee after impact with the ball. It's a side effect of the way Woods swings. In general, you can generate club head speed 3 different ways, via a wristy snap (like Jim Furyk or Rory Sabatini), via a big shoulder swing (like Phil Mickelson or Freddy Couples) or via a strong leg drive (like Woods, or Lee Trevino of years ago).

All three methods have strong points and weak points to them. One of the weak points of the "leg drive" swing is you put a lot of pressure on your knees and ankles. Woods is now dealing with that downside and the wear and tear of 20 years of swinging like that.

Woods hopes to be back quickly.

"I made the decision to deal with the pain and schedule the surgery for after the Masters," Woods said. "The upside is that I have been through this process before and know how to handle it. I look forward to working through the rehabilitation process and getting back to action as quickly as I can."

I'm sure he thinks he can come back in a few weeks, but the last time he had this surgery he was in his 20's, Now Woods is over 30. I think Woods will find out the body does not rebound now like it did 10 years ago. I wish him well, but I think he will find that it will take him most of the summer if not the rest of the year to fully recover from this operation. He will be able to walk around, sure, but compete in professional tournaments soon? Not likely.

Additionally, Woods, will have to deal with changing his swing now. He is clearly tearing and crushing knee cartilage with the strong leg drive to his current swing. Eventually, he will be bone on bone and his career will be over. He will have to adjust by going to what I call the wristy swing or the shoulder swing and both of those are more inconsistent than the "leg drive" swing. Regardless of what the slobbering golf announcers say, Woods short game has been very inconsistent the last few years, especially from 50 yards in, and he willhave to sharpen that to stay comeptive in future years. Even Woods aknowledges that.

So Woods finds himself at a bit of a crossroads in his early 30's. But if anybody can do it successfully, I would think Woods can.

227 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:01am

re: #219 ec marm

Question for you. If some former stainmaster was giving a speech a ten minute bike ride from me, what would be a good sign to wave?
Not Bitter
Lizard Army
Re-Unite Pangea

Ideas?

Three birds on a telephone line, with the ones on the ends x'd out and the words "Read between the Lines" underneath...

228 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:04am

re: #216 looking closely
I remember Hunter Thompson saying something about how was he going to apologize to his kids for not being on Nixons enemies list. I have to get my ass in gear. I haven't had a fatwa isued against me or been sued for insulting the pedohile prophet.

229 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:44am

re: #228 pingjockey

And then he blew his own head off.
Ass.

230 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:57am

re: #220 Killian Bundy
If it isn't Scottish, it's crap!

231 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:38am

re: #223 BabbaZee

Use all three

REUNITE PANGEA

Signed
The Lizard Army
/we are not bitter

My suggestions:

I WANT MY MONEY BACK

CLINGING TO THIS SIGN

LUAP NOR!

RETURN CHICAGO to the NATIVE AMERICANS

SI, SE PUEDE!

232 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:28am

re: #225 JamesTKirk

Except he's Daffy Duck in this clip:
[Link: youtube.com...]

ROTFLMAO.....

233 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:46am

re: #223 BabbaZee

Use all three

REUNITE PANGEA
Signed
The Lizard Army
/we are not bitter


Yeah, that would work. I don't want to protest anything, I'm enjoying the Obama/Clinton battle, just something silly to give Bill a wtf moment. Not to mention the SS guys might hassle me.

234 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:48am

re: #221 ethanxxx

Good Morning. I'm flying up to Ada this Friday. Is the weather going to stay nice? Or should I pack a heavy coat?

It's supposed to stay quite nice at least through Friday, but then I'm hearing the Southeast Michigan forecasts, and Ada is on the west side. According to the Weather Channel, your 10 day forecast for Grand Rapids and surrounding area is:

[Link: www.weather.com...]

Heavy coats appear unnecessary, but pack an umbrella.

235 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:06am

To all of you who think Ahmadinejad is the crazy one...have a look....

A major source of legitimacy for the Islamic Republic is through its claims of being the connecting period between the time of the Prophet and Imams and the end of time, when the Islamic Messiah overthrows all earthly governments. To make this acceptable, Ayatollah Khameneii is commonly claimed to be a descendant of the Imams, thus his black turban. Moreover, he is often called as “the true deputy of Mahdi”.

This picture is claimed to have been taken of a propaganda item in an unknown location in Iran. The item contains Arabic sentences which refer to Mahdi, the Islamic Messiah. Here, Ayatollah Khameneii is pictured as handing over the flag of “Shia armies” [not exact translation] to the person in the right, whom is supposedly Mahdi.

Such pictures are very rare but the notion that the Islamic republic is the predecessor to Mahdi’s uprising is an essential part of the state propaganda in Iran.

[Link: kamangir.net...]

236 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:07am

re: #229 BabbaZee
I liked his writing. Can't understand why he did it. Too much mind altering substances?

237 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:10am

re: #233 ec marm

Let us kno what goes downeth!

238 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:23am

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Always remember.

/if Amazon doesn't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway

That's MY motto! LOL

/personally keeps UPS in business....

239 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:40am

Well it that time again.... I owe I owe so off to work I go.... :(

240 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:49am

Gotta go make school lunches, later Lizards. Have a fine day.

241 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:04am

re: #236 pingjockey

I liked his writing. Can't understand why he did it. Too much mind altering substances?

I liked his writing too.
But he was a breathless devotee of the covenant of death. Therefore, he got what he invested in.
By his own hand.

Not at all an unusual story.
I know a lot of corpses just like him.

242 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:01am

re: #197 JammieWearingFool

Good Morning Jammie.

You got mail.

What are the Giants likely to do in the upcoming draft?

Look for the Bears to trade down in the 1st round. Angelo loves to trade down, and they have many holes to fill.

By the way, I think the commisisoner should have the right to overrule the draft picks of some teams at the podium for the good of that franchise. For example, if the Bears ever try to draft a QB in the first round again, i woul dlike to see the Commissioner call time out, send back the card and tell them they have to pick again.

It should be against the rules of the NFL, for the mental health of Chicago fans, to let the Bears to blow another 1st round pick on a QB (McNown and Grossman, need I say more?).

Just like the Lions should not be allowed to draft a wide receiver in the 1st round ever again.

243 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:36am

re: #234 Grammy Cracker

Thank You! That was nice of you. It's going to be tough leaving this crystal clear upper 70's paradise, but I always love going to Michigan. I'll try and bring some Sunshine and leave a little behind.

244 beblebrox  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:37am

re: #190 pingjockey

I wish they'd put Rocky and Bullwinkle on DVD. The youngest was watching George of the jungle, but it was the new one...Boo!

They do!

245 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:22am

re: #227 doriangrey

Three birds on a telephone line, with the ones on the ends x'd out and the words "Read between the Lines" underneath...


Don't think that would go over too well with the SS types.
"Ya talking to me? Ya talking to me?"

246 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:25am

re: #236 pingjockey

I liked his writing. Can't understand why he did it. Too much mind altering substances?

Careful, Babbazee doesn't recognize the concept of "too much" mind altering substances...

247 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:36am

File HT under "Failed Prophets"

/it is a ponderous file.

248 looking closely  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:37am

re: #47 opnion


I am confused, right after his "Bitter"small town rubes story broke there was a poll that had him down 20 points in Penn. Now they are showing 6 points.
Which is it?

Who knows.

All of these polls have margins of error of (at least) +/- 2 points. If you look at competing polls by different polling agencies, they'll all vary by a few points, and for obvious ideological reasons, its possible to cherry pick the poll you want to show the results you want.

249 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:28am

re: #228 pingjockey

All complaints are usually forwarded to the head office. (:

250 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:36am

re: #246 JamesTKirk

LOL
It is never the fault of the substances abused.
It is the weakness the ingestor.

251 doriangrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:49am

re: #245 ec marm

Don't think that would go over too well with the SS types.
"Ya talking to me? Ya talking to me?"

Ya, they might not be able to figure out what you are telling them.... :O

252 hayseed  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:12am

I don't know if storage got this or not....but heavens gonna be hot
from jihad watch

Omar Al-Sweilem: Harith Ibn Al-Muhasibi told us what would happen when we meet the black-eyed virgin with her black hair and white face – praised be He who created night and day. What hair! What a chest! What a mouth! What cheeks! What a figure! What breasts! What thighs! What legs! What whiteness! What softness! Without any creams – no Nivea, no vaseline. No nothing! He said that faces would be soft that day. Even your own face will be soft without any powder or makeup. You yourself will be soflt, so how soft will a black-eyed virgin be, when she comes to you so tall and with her beautiful face, her black hair and white face - praised be He who created night and day. Just feel her palm, Sheik! He said: How soft will a fingertip be, after being softened in paradise for thousands of years! There is no god but Allah. He told us that if you entered one of the palaces, you would find ten black-eyed virgins sprawled on musk cushions. Where is Abu Khaled? Here, he has arrived! When they see you, they will get up and run to you. Lucky is the one who gets to put her thumb in your hand. When they get hold of you, they will push you onto your back, on the musk cushions. They will push you onto your back, Jamal! Allah Akbar! I wish this on all people present here. He said that one of them would place her mouth on yours. Do whatever you want. Another one would press her cheek against yours, yet another would press her chest against yours, and the others would await their turn. There is no god but Allah. He told us that one black-eyed virgin would give you a glass of wine. Wine in Paradise is a reward for your good deeds. The wine of this world is destructive, but not the wine of the world to come.

253 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:46am
April 16 (Bloomberg) -- When a male resident at Kildegaarden nursing home in Denmark made an indecent sexual proposal to a member of the staff, the home's director, Inger Marie Kristensen, told a nurse to telephone for a prostitute. ``There was a considerable change in his demeanor after the escort girl had paid him a visit,'' Kristensen said in an interview. ``We do this for our clients just as we offer them other services that they need as human beings.''

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

254 Vikingstar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:00am

Morning, lizards. If you haven't gotten your daily dose of outrage yet this morning, look at this:

[Link: www.mainecr.org...]

At the University of Maine Farmington, a "art project" had people walking on American flags on the floor. A veteran started picking up the flags, and was threatened with arrest by the school adminstrators.

Here is a link to other eyewitness accounts:

[Link: www.asmainegoes.com...]UMF flag desecration eyewitness

255 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:06am

re: #243 ethanxxx

Thank You! That was nice of you. It's going to be tough leaving this crystal clear upper 70's paradise, but I always love going to Michigan. I'll try and bring some Sunshine and leave a little behind.

Ada is a very pretty area. Hope you have a great stay!

256 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:07am

Good morning lizards.

Has this been posted yet?

Logobama, a place for you to create your own custom Obama logo and use it wherever you want. As Obama says, “we are the change we have been waiting for.” That’s what Obama is representing... someone who wants all of us to participate in changing the world. And together, we can make this change, one logo at a time.

257 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:25am

re: #252 hayseed

lol...saw that yesterday...Islamic porn.

258 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:32am

re: #256 NJDhockeyfan

That "O" logo is just begging for someone to add hands to either side, goatse style.

/If you don't know, don't ask, and for God's sake, don't Google it!

259 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:15am

re: #25 galloping granny

At this late date, Obama's wearing of the flag pin in itself I find quite insulting.

260 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:20am

re: #250 BabbaZee

We all got Drug Tested the other day at work. Mine came back negative... which is good. But my Dealer sure has some explaining to do!

261 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:38am
A Japanese radio broadcaster said Wednesday that it would air a 1955 recording of a death row inmate's final hours, including the moment he was hanged.
No sounds or images from actual executions have previously been broadcast in Japan, a justice ministry official said, adding that the authenticity of the recording was unknown.

Nippon Culture Broadcasting, which has listeners in Tokyo and its surrounding areas, will air the 55-minute programme on May 6, said Katsuhiko Shimizu, who was involved in the production.

The documentary features the unidentified male inmate being told he would be executed that day, he said. Listeners may also hear his last conversation with a prison official as Buddhist sutras are heard in the background. The official has yet to give his consent that part being broadcast

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

262 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:49am

re: #254 Vikingstar

Morning, lizards. If you haven't gotten your daily dose of outrage yet this morning, look at this:

[Link: www.mainecr.org...]

At the University of Maine Farmington, a "art project" had people walking on American flags on the floor. A veteran started picking up the flags, and was threatened with arrest by the school adminstrators.

Here is a link to other eyewitness accounts:

[Link: www.asmainegoes.com...]UMF flag desecration eyewitness

I'm seething.....

263 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:01am

re: #258 JamesTKirk

That "O" logo is just begging for someone to add hands to either side, goatse style.

/If you don't know, don't ask, and for God's sake, don't Google it!

OMG, I'll fire up photoshop later, and make one!

264 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:06am

re: #260 ethanxxx

LOL

What kind of work do you do that they require drug testing?

265 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:02am

re: #259 Ojoe

At this late date, Obama's wearing of the flag pin in itself I find quite insulting.

Me too. That he put the thing back on leaves without even the ability to respect his standing on "principles."

When you make a decision to go against the public over something like this - or saluting the flag - then you keep right on doing it or your word means absolutely nothing.

But then maybe that is just me. I still believe in keeping your word.

266 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:05am

re: #242 3 wood

Good Morning Jammie.

You got mail.

What are the Giants likely to do in the upcoming draft?

Look for the Bears to trade down in the 1st round. Angelo loves to trade down, and they have many holes to fill.

By the way, I think the commisisoner should have the right to overrule the draft picks of some teams at the podium for the good of that franchise. For example, if the Bears ever try to draft a QB in the first round again, i woul dlike to see the Commissioner call time out, send back the card and tell them they have to pick again.

It should be against the rules of the NFL, for the mental health of Chicago fans, to let the Bears to blow another 1st round pick on a QB (McNown and Grossman, need I say more?).

Just like the Lions should not be allowed to draft a wide receiver in the 1st round ever again.

I posted the schedules in a spinoff yesterday. Giants have it pretty easy. Then again, every time I think that they stink it up. They get Washington, Rams and Bengals to start.

Word is they're going LB in the draft. They like Penn State LB Dan Conner.

If he's gone, they're likely going secondary.

Their 2007 draft was wildly successful. In hindsight, I'm sure this idiot who rated it a D would like to take it back considering every player drafted made contributions in the Super Bowl. It's rare enough an entire draft class makes the team, let alone make plays on the biggest stage.

267 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:34am

Good Morning Y'all - from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 69 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

268 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:56am

Thought for college attending Lizards (or Obama/Ron Paul/McCain supporters for that matter) who aren't getting answers from Chelsea Clinton...

Was reading about Chelsea's "minder" this morning [Link: www.politico.com...] and feeling a bit annoyed at how the Clinton's seem to think they can have it both ways...

Making sure not to interfere with actual SS protection, how about forming a flash-mob style human shield to separate "Phillipe" from Chelsea and let the reporters have some uninterrupted Q&A time?

Of course if the mob of reporters was smart a bunch would go for interviewing the minder and distracting him while others questions Chelsea and yet another set videotape the minder doing his job... oh wait, that would need coordinated intelligent effort on the media's part...

Sigh... just a thought... just a thought...

269 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:03am

Bonjour mes amis.

270 looking closely  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:06am

re: #228 pingjockey

I remember Hunter Thompson saying something about how was he going to apologize to his kids for not being on Nixons enemies list. I have to get my ass in gear. I haven't had a fatwa isued against me or been sued for insulting the pedohile prophet.

Hard to have that happen in the USA (eg sued specifically for insulting the prophet), but if you are high-enough profile and say things that could be considered against Islam, I'd bet you'd see some "love" directed your way from the likes of CAIR.

Heck, even Charles has had the FBI sic'd on him at least twice by CAIR.

271 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:46am

re: #267 realwest

Morning real, doing just fine! and you?

272 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:14am

YO BABBA!

273 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:37am

re: #253 storagemanager

Just 'cause they're old don't mean they don't get horny...

274 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:55am

re: #256 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards.

Has this been posted yet?

Wonder where they draw the line on photos. Rage Boy would look nice in there.

275 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:05am

re: #265 galloping granny

You have stated the matter well.

276 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:09am

re: #273 anotherindyfilmguy

Just 'cause they're old don't mean they don't get horny...

Snow on the roof, fire in the furnace?

/don't want to ask what the OTHER services are!

277 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:10am

re: #260 ethanxxx

HAH!

279 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:44am

re: #272 realwest

YO REAL

280 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:02am

re: #262 Grammy Cracker

I'm seething.....

I agree that it's disgraceful and childish.

I looked at the "US Flags"...while they had thirteen stripes, I did not see any with even a historical star pattern; i.e., in my opinion, NOT US flags. Reference 4:06, for example.

281 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:10am

re: #267 realwest

How is everyone this morning?

Doing fine.

Please check your email :)

282 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:25am

re: #273 anotherindyfilmguy

Just 'cause they're old don't mean they don't get horny...

Maybe his family don't want him to have whores...

283 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:34am

re: #274 infidelia

Wonder where they draw the line on photos. Rage Boy would look nice in there.

Farrakhan, Karl Marx, Adolf...

284 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:56am

Imported moderate imams 'will counter fundamentalists'

Moderate Muslim clerics are to be brought in from Pakistan in an effort to combat extremism in British mosques, the Home Secretary will announce today.

Jacqui Smith struck a deal on a recent visit to Pakistan under which respected imams could be invited to help British Muslims counter the fundamentalists.

The move is part of Government efforts to step up its so-called prevent agenda, which is aimed at tackling jihadi propaganda in Muslim communities.

In a newspaper interview at the weekend, Miss Smith said: "The vast majority of British Muslims have a Pakistani heritage. If we work with the Government there we can win the arguments.

"We need to do more to tackle those places where radicalisation is developing - in prisons, schools, higher education - so that people are getting the right messages about what it means to be a British Muslim.

"We will also work to ensure we identify vulnerable people being groomed for terror - in the same way we protect young people from being dragged into crime and abuse."

285 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:34am

re: #270 looking closely

Hard to have that happen in the USA (eg sued specifically for insulting the prophet), but if you are high-enough profile and say things that could be considered against Islam, I'd bet you'd see some "love" directed your way from the likes of CAIR.

Heck, even Charles has had the FBI sic'd on him at least twice by CAIR.

Michael Savage has already found that out.

But I think he's rope-a-doped them.

286 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:36am

re: #271 rightside Morning rightside! I'm doing ok other than the fact that my earthlink e-mail system isn't working at all, so I have to resort to my "Web" mail instead!

I also have to leave in about 15 minutes or so to take Mom to see her doctor (at her doctor's request) concerning the results of my Mom's most recent blood tests, which were themselves at the request of my Mom's doctor!
Mom has asked me to join in the consultation "just in case". When my Mom says that it usually means she thinks something's up.
So I'm a little bit antsy about that.
Other than that, I'm fine!
I'm glad to hear you're ok!

287 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:48am

re: #267 realwest

Good Morning Y'all - from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 69 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Hey, Real! I'll repost this just for you...

Celebrate your beautiful day!

/smilin' again!

288 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:04am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, not only has Fatah decided to honor Hamas mass murdering terrorists for killing Israelis, but Hamas killed three Israeli soldiers who noticed a bunch of Palestinian terrorists attempting to infiltrate into Israel from Gaza.

And that comes on the heels of Jimmy Carter meeting with Hamas thugs in Cairo.

Palestinians are at war with Israel, and have been for years, and yet few seem to realize or care that the Palestinians want Israel destroyed - they aren't going to settle for a two-state solution.

289 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:24am

Lunches for yard apes made. Looks to be a nice day here in the Wenatchee, WA. area. Snow on the mountain passes yesterday and last nite. Ol' man Winter doesn't want to let go!

290 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:24am

re: #278 BabbaZee


Why do you speak in the international language of surrender this morning?

In honor of Brigitte Bardot, perhaps?

291 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:35am

re: #254 Vikingstar

Outraged and saddened. Some people just don't get it...

293 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:51am

OT

294 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:26am

re: #286 realwest

Morning rightside! I'm doing ok other than the fact that my earthlink e-mail system isn't working at all, so I have to resort to my "Web" mail instead!

I also have to leave in about 15 minutes or so to take Mom to see her doctor (at her doctor's request) concerning the results of my Mom's most recent blood tests, which were themselves at the request of my Mom's doctor!
Mom has asked me to join in the consultation "just in case". When my Mom says that it usually means she thinks something's up.
So I'm a little bit antsy about that.
Other than that, I'm fine!
I'm glad to hear you're ok!


MTAPAWY

(My thoughts and prayers are with you)

295 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:31am

re: #283 infidelia

Farrakhan, Karl Marx, Adolf...

How is this?

296 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:32am

re: #288 lawhawk

o, not only has Fatah decided to honor Hamas mass murdering terrorists for killing Israelis, but Hamas killed three Israeli soldiers who noticed a bunch of Palestinian terrorists attempting to infiltrate into Israel from Gaza.

And that comes on the heels of Jimmy Carter meeting with Hamas thugs in Cairo.


I keep telling you guys
it is done
We watch a stage show

297 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:45am

re: #290 OldLineTexan

Ok that I can accept
lol

298 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:04am

re: #266 JammieWearingFool

Word is they're going LB in the draft. They like Penn State LB Dan Conner.

If he's gone, they're likely going secondary.

The Bears need an offense. Pick a position, any position.

Which means, most likely, Angelo will take a safety who can't hit or cover.

Or a defensive tackle who can't hardly walk.

Or a midget QB.

Or a RB who specializes in running up to the line and dropping like a pole-axed steer.

299 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:08am

So its the poor people that fall for Jihad?..Lahore,

Apr.15 (ANI): Hundreds of Pakistani lawyers on Tuesday staged a protest against a Dutch film that satirically depicted the Prophet Mohammad and accused the Koran of inciting violence. The movie made by Dutch lawmarker Geert Wilders last month, interspersed caricatures of the prophet and the Koran with images of the 9/11 attacks and other Islamist bombings. Titled “Fitna,” a Koranic term sometimes translated as “strife”, it also shows an image of the Prophet Mohammad primed to explode. Reports said that 500 lawyers took part in the demonstration and shouted slogans like “Death is acceptable in the service of the prophet” and “God is greatest”. “Death is acceptable in the path of saving the sanctity of prophet”, said a banner. The protesters marched for about a kilometre from the high court building to the Data Darbar, the shrine of Lahore’s patron saint. Manzoor Qadir, the president of the Lahore Bar Association, said that the present government was not doing enough to rein in foreigners indulging in blasphemous acts.

[Link: www.thaindian.com...]

300 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:17am

re: #50 galloping granny

While you are correct that Blackstone no longer applies, you are probably incorrect that Sharia'a won't. It's like one morning all of Canada woke up and found out that they were now governed by the US legal system. Nobody voted for it, but since Tony Blair wants to be the president of the EU, the British government is going to let it happen. Perhaps the Brits should take their signal from the statue of a man with what served as an assault rifle of the day that they have in Lexington. Of course, since they have been disarmed by their government, except for the criminals, they will not be able to pull it off. But it would be refreshing to see somebody say enough already to all this crud.

301 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:30am

re: #295 NJDhockeyfan

How is this?

Now ya talkin'!

302 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:20am

re: #264 BabbaZee

It was a stolen joke I heard on Bob and Tom years ago. I'm a Freelance Artist. Anybody wants to test my urine they'll have to suck it out of the toilet.

303 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:26am

re: #270 looking closely
I'd like CAIR to raise a stink about little old me. Retired Navy, 3 kids, wife, dog, cat, ferret, fish. Make less than 70k a year. Yep. I be a real threat to the islamist enablers, Heh. Ooops, I do own guns, belong to the VFW and ride a Harley. So I maybe a threat to the likes of CAIR!

304 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:55am

re: #302 ethanxxx

AMEN, daddy-o!

lol

305 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:33am
Anti-Israel activist bursts into stage during Achinoam Nini show waving Palestinian flag. Concert resumed after crowd beseeches singer to return. Nini: This made me proud to be an Israeli
Danny Spector
Published: 04.15.08, 09:08 / Israel Culture

A Spanish protester carrying a Palestinian flag interrupted a concert of Israeli singer Achinoam Nini in the city of Tulsa in Spain this weekend.

The man barged into the stage, calling out anti-Israeli slogans. He was immediately taken off by the security guards at the hall, and later arrested by the local police.

Nini herself was quite shaken by the incident, broke into tears and left the stage. She returned several minutes later, after the crowd applauded her and beseeched her to come back, repeatedly chanting Nini's stage name "Noa". Even after the concert was resumed, the distraught singer had to stop on several occasions in order to regroup.

"We have already encountered anti-Semitism in London, but this is the first time it's happening in Spain, and with such intensity," said Ofer Pesanzon, Nini's producer.

[Link: islamo-nazism.blogspot.com...]

306 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:47am

re: #287 Grammy Cracker Hey {Grammy} thanks a lot for that one - one of my favorite songs!
Hope you're doing well today!

307 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:16am

re: #302 ethanxxx

It was a stolen joke I heard on Bob and Tom years ago. I'm a Freelance Artist. Anybody wants to test my urine they'll have to suck it out of the toilet.

Whew, that was close... !

Caffeine kicks in... hi all. Going up to 60s here on lovely Taxachusetts North Shore today. Only question: should I wear my Mo Da Bomb T to the beach...

308 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:17am

re: #303 pingjockey

I'd like CAIR to raise a stink about little old me. Retired Navy, 3 kids, wife, dog, cat, ferret, fish. Make less than 70k a year. Yep. I be a real threat to the islamist enablers, Heh. Ooops, I do own guns, belong to the VFW and ride a Harley. So I maybe a threat to the likes of CAIR!

Are you religious? Because you sound a little bitter.

/Dr. Barry

309 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:22am

re: #287 Grammy Cracker

Hello Charlotte. I'm over here next to you in Winston-Salem. It's only going to get nicer too! Upper 70's by Friday. Not a cloud in the sky here.

310 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:48am

re: #294 rightside

MTAPAWY

I thought that was yer Indian name for a minute there, LOL
Signed,
~ Runs With Hypothesis

311 Vikingstar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:01am

re: #280 OldLineTexan

I took another look: a number of those flags, as far as I could tell, were standard flags, although some were older versions--they were all historical, as far as I could tell.

Contemptable.

312 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:39am

re: #308 OldLineTexan

Are you religious? Because you sound a little bitter.

/Dr. Barry

I'm not religious but can I sound bitter about Obama's religion instead? Whichever one that is...

313 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:45am

re: #237 BabbaZee

Let us kno what goes downeth!


Bastids. It was an after the fact article:

Former President Bill Clinton will visit [redacted] Area High School today.


Guess they know there's too many Republicans in the area to trust giving us a heads up. Damn I was gonna snitch a blue Gap dress out of my wifes closet and hold my sign. Woulda made a hell of a local news story, too.

(AP-not) A cross-dressing member of the so-called "Lizard Army" was taken into custody today by the Secret Service when he was observed acting in a suspicious manner moments before the arrival of former President Clinton. Clutching a sign calling for the 're-unification of Pangea' and professing 'non-bitterness' a Secret Service agent felt that a 24 hour mental observation was in order.
314 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:54am

re: #299 storagemanager

So its the poor people that fall for Jihad?..Lahore,

[Link: www.thaindian.com...]

So... "it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-infidel sentiment ... as a way to explain their frustrations." ?

315 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:54am

re: #310 BabbaZee

I thought that was yer Indian name for a minute there, LOL
Signed,
~ Runs With Hypothesis

HA! I was going to ask the same thing. Sounded like the "Indian" phrases they used to use in Boy Scouts...

316 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:00am

Good morning all.

317 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:57am

re: #313 ec marm

MFers.

318 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:59am

re: #308 OldLineTexan
Hahaha! Years ago, when we had "special weapons" on my destroyer, we had a psych test. One of the guys in the box for religion put Druid, under sex he put yes. Answered the whole test that way. Drove the psyshrinks nuts.

319 sparrowlake  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:23:18am

Good morning lizards.
Busy house-breaking the new puppy - so cute.
If only children were this easy to toilet train!

320 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:23:30am

re: #315 OldLineTexan

Sounded like the "Indian" phrases they used to use in Boy Scouts...


Yup, lol~
~ Sitting Shiva

321 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:23:39am

hey folks

322 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:23:51am

re: #262 Grammy Cracker

I'm seething.....

Art project my ass. Sounds like some students need an attitude adjustment, courtesy of a 2x4 upside the head.

323 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:24:32am
324 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:24:36am

re: #158 christheprofessor

Dammit! That reminds me -- I have to do laundry as well... ;)


No ride today?

325 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:07am

re: #301 infidelia

Now ya talkin'!

Obama's supporters overseas.

326 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:07am

re: #300 Shr_Nfr

While you are correct that Blackstone no longer applies, you are probably incorrect that Sharia'a won't. It's like one morning all of Canada woke up and found out that they were now governed by the US legal system. Nobody voted for it, but since Tony Blair wants to be the president of the EU, the British government is going to let it happen. Perhaps the Brits should take their signal from the statue of a man with what served as an assault rifle of the day that they have in Lexington. Of course, since they have been disarmed by their government, except for the criminals, they will not be able to pull it off. But it would be refreshing to see somebody say enough already to all this crud.

I have no clue what you are talking about. I made no reference to Blackstone at all and never said that sharia would not apply in Europe. I said that the governments of what used to be individual states in Europe exist only to rubber stamp the decisions undertaken by the real rulers of the EU, who are not publicly elected by anyone, anywhere.

327 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:12am

re: #262 Grammy Cracker
That is vile, despicable. Yes I do question their patriotism!

328 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:17am

re: #281 3 wood Good morning my friend! I'd LIKE to check my e-mail this morning but as I mentioned in my #286, my e-mail system is on the fritz today or at least this morning and I gotta leave NOW to take Mom to see her doctor (also in my #286!).
Assuming my e-mail does in fact come back on line, I'll check it and get back atcha!

329 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:31am

re: #306 realwest

Hey {Grammy} thanks a lot for that one - one of my favorite songs!
Hope you're doing well today!

If I was any better, I'd be twins! LOL Hope all goes well for you today!

/you know you have our prayers

330 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:32am
For the past year, the group has been working on a strategy to win an estimated 200,000 Muslim votes in an effort to re-elect the Mayor.
It includes a campaign of vilification aimed at his Conservative rival, Boris Johnson. It is being waged by Muslims 4 Ken, led by 39-year-old lecturer Anas Altikriti and Palestinian-born Azzam Tamimi, a supporter of Hamas, the militant group dedicated to the creation of an Islamic state of Palestine.
Muslims 4 Ken moves into overdrive this week after months of lobbying for Mr Livingstone among Muslim community leaders, in mosques and among political organisations.
The Islamic alliance backing the Mayor is based in east London and has already drawn on wide support from the area's Bangladeshi community. Muslims 4 Ken grew from Mr Livingstone's links with activists and his generous sponsorship of Muslim causes. Mr Altikriti was instrumental in the Mayor's patronage of Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the Islamic cleric who was welcomed by Mr Livingstone to City Hall. The Mayor's critics believe his praise of Mr al-Qaradawi was part of a cynical plan to exploit the Muslim vote. Mr al-Qaradawi is banned from Britain over fears his presence may not be conducive to "security and peace".
The last two weeks of the election campaign will see a sustained attack on Mr Johnson based on claims that he is anti-Islam. Volunteers have been supplied with quotes from his journalism over the past 15 years in which he appears to be critical of Islam.
The quotes are deluging internet forums and form part of messages posted in texts and emails sent to exhort Muslims to vote for Mr Livingstone.
Embracing Islam gives Ken new election hope
A year-long strategy to mobilise the Muslim vote for Ken moves into overdrive this week, accompanied by a campaign of vilification aimed at Boris.
It has been orchestrated by Islamic leaders who have been assiduously courted by Ken, an Evening Standard investigation reveals, and signals a new departure in tactics to harness an ethnic minority vote in a bid for power.

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

331 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:26:25am

re: #319 sparrowlake

Good morning lizards.
Busy house-breaking the new puppy - so cute.
If only children were this easy to toilet train!

They are.

332 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:26:33am

re: #323 JamesTKirk

Sho'nuf LOL

Rabbits are not kosher BTW

so it was an unclean animal

Demonic forces love to ride in unclean animals
it is the real reason they are "unclean"

333 realwest  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:26:42am

Well y'all I gotta run and take Mom to see her doctor for a "consult" which my Mom wants me to sit in on; that's unusual for my Mom so it should be an interesting "consult" indeed.
I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

334 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:27:27am

re: #322 Ward Cleaver

Art project my ass. Sounds like some students need an attitude adjustment, courtesy of a 2x4 upside the head.

We should borrow Mandy's *clue by four*!

335 beblebrox  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:27:58am

re: #322 Ward Cleaver

Art project my ass. Sounds like some students need an attitude adjustment, courtesy of a 2x4 upside the head.

I always say that you can have your "freedom of expression" all you want by desecrating the flag, as long as you realize that afterwards i will have my freedom of expression by kicking the everliving shit out of you.

336 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:28:17am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

{realwest}

Prayers for your mom.....and you of course.

337 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:28:27am

re: #335 beblebrox

I always say that you can have your "freedom of expression" all you want by desecrating the flag, as long as you realize that afterwards i will have my freedom of expression by kicking the everliving shit out of you.

ROFL!

338 hayseed  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:28:47am

re: #332 BabbaZee

that's why after we shoot them we clean em.lol

339 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:28:59am

re: #332 BabbaZee

Sho'nuf LOL

Rabbits are not kosher BTW

so it was an unclean animal

Demonic forces love to ride in unclean animals
it is the real reason they are "unclean"

you sayin' I'm unclean? LOL

340 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:29:52am

re: #332 BabbaZee

Sho'nuf LOL

Rabbits are not kosher BTW

so it was an unclean animal

Demonic forces love to ride in unclean animals
it is the real reason they are "unclean"


So why was Stan chasin' after Jhimmah in that swamp?

341 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:30:12am

re: #337 Grammy Cracker
Has Maine been invaded by the moonbats who took over Vermont?
Went to Vermont, N.H. and Maine back in the early 80s and the moonbats were distinctly absent.

342 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:30:15am
Jimmy Carter is an evil man. It is painful to label a past president of the United States as a force for darkness. But it is dangerous to let a man like Jimmy Carter stalk around the globe cloaked in the garb of American royalty, planting the seeds of Western civilization's destruction.

On Tuesday, former President Carter met with leaders of the terrorist group Hamas. He embraced Nasser al-Shaer, the man who has run the Palestinian education system, brainwashing children into believing Jews are the descendants of pigs and dogs. He laid a wreath at the grave of Yasser Arafat, the most notorious terrorist thug of the 20th century. Then, he had the audacity to offer to act as a conduit between the Palestinian Arabs and the Israeli and U.S. governments.


[Link: www.homelandsecurityus.com...]

343 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:30:35am

re: #332 BabbaZee

Does that mean it's a damnable offense to watch Bugs Bunny? LOL.

344 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:04am

re: #339 loppyd

you sayin' I'm unclean? LOL

LOL! Reminds me of one of my favorite movie lines:

' Aaaaaaah! I washed my 'ands and face before I come, I did!'

/just LOVE Audrey!

345 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:05am

More Indian A/K/A's:

Stands Without Spleen

Runs in the Muck

lol

re: #340 ec marm

So why was Stan chasin' after Jhimmah in that swamp?

Stan does not chase you without first you invite the chase

346 Hengineer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:14am

re: #343 laZardo

Does that mean it's a damnable offense to watch Bugs Bunny? LOL.

Oh he's a wascawy wabbit!

347 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:15am

When I was a boy, I had superheroes like Superman, Batman, Ironman etc.

Now I know who the real superheroes are...

And no, I'm not dissing the rest of you, I'm just sayin', is all.

348 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:40am

re: #340 ec marm

So why was Stan chasin' after Jhimmah in that swamp?

Trying to kiss him on the lips? Just guessing....

349 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:32:07am
350 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:32:10am

re: #343 laZardo

Does that mean it's a damnable offense to watch Bugs Bunny? LOL.

LOL

NEVAH!
Bugs is a total Yid

351 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:32:16am

re: #341 pingjockey

Has Maine been invaded by the moonbats who took over Vermont?
Went to Vermont, N.H. and Maine back in the early 80s and the moonbats were distinctly absent.

Worse. They shipped a huge number of muslim Somali "refugees" to Maine. Down-easters have been leaving Maine in droves. And if you go over to the other side of Maine, huge numbers of small Maine towns are disincorporating because they can no longer maintain financially.

352 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:32:31am

Good Wednesday morning good inhabitants of Lizardia.

353 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:33:14am

re: #328 realwest

Assuming my e-mail does in fact come back on line, I'll check it and get back atcha!

Okay, good luck with the doctors.

354 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:33:29am

re: #339 loppyd

Nevah you! lol

355 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:33:33am

re: #341 pingjockey

Has Maine been invaded by the moonbats who took over Vermont?
Went to Vermont, N.H. and Maine back in the early 80s and the moonbats were distinctly absent.

Not to the same extent, but I believe the creeps are creeping in...

356 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:34:09am

re: #351 galloping granny

Worse. They shipped a huge number of muslim Somali "refugees" to Maine. Down-easters have been leaving Maine in droves. And if you go over to the other side of Maine, huge numbers of small Maine towns are disincorporating because they can no longer maintain financially.

Tyson is shipping them all over the country...a lot of small towns have been ruined.

357 phoenixgirl  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:34:37am
358 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:34:44am

re: #354 BabbaZee


Nevah you! lol

Babba you know that song ascares me!

359 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:35:20am

re: #351 galloping granny
That is awful. Went to Rangely (sp) and went camping. Went to your typical General Store. It was great.

360 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:35:21am

re: #311 Vikingstar

I took another look: a number of those flags, as far as I could tell, were standard flags, although some were older versions--they were all historical, as far as I could tell.

Contemptable.

Please tell me which flag is at 4:06...because none of them looked like any historical flag I have ever seen, especially with those jumbled stars.

361 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:35:25am

re: #343 laZardo

Does that mean it's a damnable offense to watch Bugs Bunny? LOL.

You realize, of course, that this means war.

362 3 wood  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:35:35am

re: #345 BabbaZee

Stan does not chase you without first you invite the chase


That, folks, about says it all.

363 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:35:49am

re: #357 phoenixgirl

olympic protest sign

They DID host the Olympics. We boycotted.

364 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:36:07am

re: #318 pingjockey

Hahaha! Years ago, when we had "special weapons" on my destroyer, we had a psych test. One of the guys in the box for religion put Druid, under sex he put yes. Answered the whole test that way. Drove the psyshrinks nuts.

I wanted to put "Viking" because I still want a flaming ship funeral pyre.

365 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:36:11am

Brigitte Bardo in trouble again for IslamoRealism.

Prosecutors asked that the Paris court hand the 73-year-old former sex symbol a two-month suspended prison sentence and fine her 15,000 euros ($23,760) for saying the Muslim community was "destroying our country and imposing its acts".

366 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:36:16am
MOGADISHU: Suspected Islamic insurgents killed four civilians when they hurled a grenade on a cinema screening an Indian movie in a Somali town.

The incident occurred last evening in the port city of Merka, around 100 kilometres south of Mogadishu.

"A hand grenade was hurled on a movie theatre inside the town, killing four people. More than ten others were wounded," Merka police commissioner Hussein Gagale told.

"We were watching an Indian movie when a huge explosion rocked the place. People started screaming, I saw at least three dead and I was very lucky to escape," said Salah Ahmed Abdallah, a witness

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

367 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:36:50am

re: #357 phoenixgirl
Publik edumication at its finest.

368 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:37:12am

re: #359 pingjockey

That is awful. Went to Rangely (sp) and went camping. Went to your typical General Store. It was great.

How long ago?

369 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:37:35am

re: #351 galloping granny

Worse. They shipped a huge number of muslim Somali "refugees" to Maine. Down-easters have been leaving Maine in droves. And if you go over to the other side of Maine, huge numbers of small Maine towns are disincorporating because they can no longer maintain financially.

My mom grew up in Maine and much of my family still lives there.

The Somali refugees are mostly located in Lewiston and Portland....

I attribute a lot of the moonbattery in Maine to the back-to-the-land movement of the 70's.....

370 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:37:52am

re: #363 Grammy Cracker
No. we went. Jesse Owens won 3 or 4 Gold Medals.

371 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:38:07am

re: #358 loppyd

Babba you know that song ascares me!

Oh crap ! I do know that!

I forgot.....

So Solly!

372 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:38:10am

re: #336 loppyd

Guten Morgen. Looks like you have company. Infidelia hails from the North Shore.

373 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:38:31am

re: #368 galloping granny
1984. Was stationed in Newport, R.I.

374 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:38:42am

re: #359 pingjockey

That is awful. Went to Rangely (sp) and went camping. Went to your typical General Store. It was great.

Rangely Lakes Region, ayah.

375 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:38:51am

re: #364 OldLineTexan

I always put
Jewtian

that effs em all up

376 hayseed  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:39:01am

re: #349 rightside

This is my Indian name LOL

me and Babba neet to have pow wow

377 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:39:22am

re: #365 ethanxxx

Brigitte Bardo in trouble again for IslamoRealism.

Prosecutors asked that the Paris court hand the 73-year-old former sex symbol a two-month suspended prison sentence and fine her 15,000 euros ($23,760) for saying the Muslim community was "destroying our country and imposing its acts".

That does not sound like anything remotely close to hate speech. Hate speech is the muslim line we all hear so often about Jews and Christians being the descendants of pigs and dogs. THAT is hate speech. The "United States of KKK A" is hate speech. Typical White Person is hate speech. Truth is not hate speech!

378 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:39:23am

re: #370 pingjockey

No. we went. Jesse Owens won 3 or 4 Gold Medals.

You're right, of course. I was thinking of the Russian games....

I have *senior* moments, *blond* moments, and worst of all, *senior blond* moments.... LOL

379 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:39:58am

re: #362 3 wood

{3 wood}

380 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:39:59am

re: #278 BabbaZee

I speak of L'amour

381 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:40:06am

re: #335 beblebrox

I always say that you can have your "freedom of expression" all you want by desecrating the flag, as long as you realize that afterwards i will have my freedom of expression by kicking the everliving shit out of you.

If they're not flags, it's just smarmy collegiate "rebellion" by a bunch of typical white students who have taken enough care to use only flag-like objects in their safe, protected "protest".

The little cowards have no patriotism, it has been drummed out of them. But they understand fear.

If they are flags, then we have another set of issues altogether.

382 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:40:18am

re: #363 Grammy Cracker

They DID host the Olympics. We boycotted.


see what happens when some young idiot has their face burried in a my space or face book page? They get stuck on stooooopid!

:-D

383 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:40:33am

re: #357 phoenixgirl

olympic protest sign

heh. It is on a sign, it MUST be true...

/

384 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:40:37am

re: #376 hayseed

me and Babba neet to have pow wow

My Indian name is Dances with Woofs ..... LOL

385 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:40:40am

re: #374 loppyd
We had quite the adventure. Saw some moose, the northern lights, got a truck stuck in a bog. It was great!

386 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:41:31am

re: #357 phoenixgirl

olympic protest sign

Somebody needs a history lesson.

387 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:41:31am

re: #378 Grammy Cracker
Dad calls it CRS disease. Can't Remember Shit!

388 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:41:37am

re: #372 Endangered in MASS

Guten Morgen. Looks like you have company. Infidelia hails from the North Shore.

Morning!

Yes, I know....we haunt many of the same overpriced grocery stores. LOL

389 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:41:42am

re: #369 loppyd

My mom grew up in Maine and much of my family still lives there.

The Somali refugees are mostly located in Lewiston and Portland....

I attribute a lot of the moonbattery in Maine to the back-to-the-land movement of the 70's.....

Some of our best friends once owned the hardware store in Lewiston. Of course they, the farm and the hardware store are long gone. I was up there in the 70's and mid-80's pretty frequently and Maine was still pretty Maine-ish.

390 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:42:03am

re: #370 pingjockey

No. we went. Jesse Owens won 3 or 4 Gold Medals.

and do you remember the controversy when the flags went around the Olympic stadium there and Jesse Owens refused to dip the Stars and Stripes in subjegation to the Swastika?

391 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:42:11am

re: #278 BabbaZee

Danger! Le Catte Wilde. Tres Viscious.

392 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:42:21am

re: #371 BabbaZee

Oh crap ! I do know that!

I forgot.....

So Solly!

That's more like it.

WHAT ABOUT PROM!

393 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:42:43am
394 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:42:56am

re: #387 pingjockey

Dad calls it CRS disease. Can't Remember Shit!

Uh....umm.....huh? LOL

/I KNOW I came into this room for a REASON!

395 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:43:03am

re: #390 paxnhymn
I was born in 1959!

396 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:43:04am

re: #373 pingjockey

1984. Was stationed in Newport, R.I.

I used to spend lots of the summer in Maine about that time. Day-tripped at Rangeley but never camped there. I like to camp up at SeaWall.

397 storagemanager  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:43:15am
Today comes news from Shelbyville, TN that Tyson’s Foods is moving some of its Emporia, KS Somali refugee workers to Shelbyville, TN. For regular readers of Refugee Resettlement Watch, you will immediately see this is a case of Tyson’s Somalis going from the frying pan to the fire, so to speak.

Emporia was roiled for months over the sudden influx of Somalis who were lured by employment to that city by a Tyson’s meat packing plant that was ultimately suddenly closed. For ambitious readers we have a whole category on Emporia, KS here. At the same time, Shelbyville, TN was experiencing similar public unrest over an influx of Somalis there who seemed unable or unwilling to assimilate. The Times-Gazette has covered the controversy extensively.

Now citizens in Shelbyville are learning that some Emporia refugees are headed their way.

[Link: refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com...]

398 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:43:32am

re: #377 galloping granny

You're right of course. I'm worried that we're not too far from seeing this kind of Bass-Ackward logic here in the USA soon.

399 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:21am

re: #394 Grammy Cracker

How many guys with ADD/ADHD does it take to change a light bulb?
Wanna go ride a bike.

400 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:30am

For English, Press 1.

*grumbles*

401 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:31am

re: #390 paxnhymn

Didn't Owens also befriend his German rival Luz Long?

402 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:46am

re: #395 pingjockey

I was born in 1959!

and I was born in 1960.
History is the owners manual for life that keeps us off the perpetual f*ck up hamster wheel!

403 Vikingstar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:49am

I regret to say that Maine has become a sucking hole of socialism and moonbattery. Depending on what figures you use, we have the 1st or 2cd highest tax burden in the nation, and an ever-expanding nanny state. Young people are leaving in droves, as well as people who actually pay taxes (as opposed to people who make their living on other people's taxes). Every leftist-moonbat idea is in vogue up here, and we will probably be the state that has the highest (per-capita) popular vote for the nice Marxist Racist, Obama, in the fall.

404 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:03am

re: #363 Grammy Cracker


Morning Lizards. A cold 29 degrees, going up to a chilly 46 today.

Actually Grammy, we DID participate in the 1936 Olympics. Wether or not Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens could be a matter of debate

Jesse Owens
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

405 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:07am

re: #399 pingjockey

How many guys with ADD/ADHD does it take to change a light bulb?
Wanna go ride a bike.

lol

406 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:10am

re: #355 Grammy Cracker

Not to the same extent, but I believe the creeps are creeping in...

They creep up the coast from Bahstun all summer. Rte 1 is like a parking lot every weekend from Memorial to Labor Day. Some of them apparently get lost and find themselves inland...

407 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:13am

re: #384 Grammy Cracker

My Indian name is Chief Iron Feather.

408 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:24am

re: #383 LanceKates

heh. It is on a sign, it MUST be true...

/

HALP - I have fallen and I can't get up! Dear heavens that is hysterical!

409 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:45:55am

re: #402 paxnhymn
Ah, ok. I don't remember that uproar or not. I'm sure the Austrian Corporal was not pleased!

410 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:46:50am

re: #404 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. A cold 29 degrees, going up to a chilly 46 today.

Actually Grammy, we DID participate in the 1936 Olympics. Wether or not Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens could be a matter of debate

Jesse Owens
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, my bad, but not my fault! I have CRS disease - so says PingJockey!

411 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:14am

re: #401 laZardo

Didn't Owens also befriend his German rival Luz Long?

yes, and I can't remember what happened to Long. The mind wobbles (as one of our dear friends puts it) but I think he was banished militarily for his public insolence to the Russian front or something like that. I could be wrong on that account.

412 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:18am
413 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:30am

re: #408 galloping granny

HALP - I have fallen and I can't get up! Dear heavens that is hysterical!

Don't they make one of those beeper things you wear on your neck for those moments?

I wonder if they charge you per use for those. If not, I'd get one and just randomly talk to the people.

"Yes hi, I'm bored. How are you?"

"Sir, is there an emergency?"

"well, I can't pick out which tie to wear to the supermarket."

414 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:42am

re: #380 Peacekeeper

I speak of L'amour

Excellent!

415 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:51am

re: #407 ethanxxx

My Indian name is Chief Iron Feather.

I am NOT going there.....

LOL

416 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:47:52am

re: #399 pingjockey

My cousin has HD-ADD. (High Definition Attention Deficit Disorder). He has trouble paying attention, but when he does... It's amazingly Clear.

417 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:08am

re: #388 loppyd


"overpriced grocery stores"

Thanks to global warming scaremongers they are all over priced now.

They call it Flex fuel because you need to be flexible enough to grab your ankles if you want to buy a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.

418 Render  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:11am

My summer art project is going to be to place dozens of US flags on the ground...

...and beat the shit out of everybody that steps on them instead of walking around.

NOT
REALLY,
R

419 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:17am

re: #326 galloping granny

The reference to Blackstone is to the 4 volume tome on British law he wrote in the late 1700s. My statement was that Britain has already abandoned her legal tradition and has, without a vote of their citizens, been co-opted into a alien legal system by their government and that their citizens have been put in a position where they can do nothing about it.

420 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:24am

Groceries are KILLIN' me.

421 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:26am

I considered posting this video of the superheroes. But I seem to be allergic to it.

Everytime I see it, my eyes start to water, and I sniffle. Damned allergies.

422 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:40am

re: #418 Render

I'm in.

423 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:48:41am

No le touch painte Dampe.

424 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:49:42am

re: #416 ethanxxx
Mom used to be a T/A at the local grade school. One boy had ADD/ADHD caused by fetal alcohol syndrome. What a handful. When you could get the little guy to focus it was just awesome.

425 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:49:47am

re: #397 storagemanager


We're much smarter than those rubes from Shelbyville. Just tell us what you want and vote for it.

426 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:49:54am

re: #389 galloping granny

Some of our best friends once owned the hardware store in Lewiston. Of course they, the farm and the hardware store are long gone. I was up there in the 70's and mid-80's pretty frequently and Maine was still pretty Maine-ish.

Show me a college town and I'll show you a moonbat infestation.

IIRC, Farmington was voted the best small town to live in by some major magazine a few years ago.

My aunt & uncle live in a very small town on the way from Augusta to Damariscotta. Beautiful area....simple, open.

427 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:50:12am

My real Indian name:

Thunder Word

428 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:50:24am

re: #418 Render

My summer art project is going to be to place dozens of US flags on the ground...

...and beat the shit out of everybody that steps on them instead of walking around.

NOT
REALLY,
R

hey. Freedom of expression. I doubt if the ACLU will take your case up when your arraigned though....clashes with their agenda and all..

:-D

429 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:50:29am

re: #410 Grammy Cracker

Heh.... Know the feelling.

430 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:50:45am

re: #420 BabbaZee


see my #417

431 pingjockey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:50:46am

Later all. Have a fine Lizard day.

432 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:51:32am

re: #426 loppyd

Show me a college town and I'll show you a moonbat infestation.

IIRC, Farmington was voted the best small town to live in by some major magazine a few years ago.

My aunt & uncle live in a very small town on the way from Augusta to Damariscotta. Beautiful area....simple, open.

Exhibit A: The People's Socialist Republic of Ann Arbor.

/aka the Berkley of the Midwest.

433 Render  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:51:41am

re: #411 paxnhymn

Long was mortally wounded and captured in the fighting on Sicily and died in a British military hospital.

'43,
R

434 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:51:47am

....given to me by a Minoan prophet

;~}

435 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:51:47am

West Virginia T en Commandments

Some people in West Virginia have trouble with all those 'shalls' and 'shall not's' in the Ten commandments. Folks just aren't used to talking in those terms.. So, some folks in West Virginia got together and translated the 'King James' into 'County' language..... No joke, read on...

The Hillbilly's Ten Commandments (posted on the wall at First Baptist Church in Summersville, West Virginia)

(1) Just one God
(2) Put nothin' before God
(3) Watch yer mouth
(4) Git yourself to Sunday meetin'
(5) Honor yer Ma & Pa
(6) No killin'
(7) No foolin' around with another fellow's gal
(8) Don't take what ain't yers
(9) No tellin' tales or gossipin'
(10) Don't be hankerin' for yer buddy's stuff



Now that's kinda plain an' simple, don't ya think?
Y'all have a nice day

436 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:51:52am

re: #385 pingjockey

We had quite the adventure. Saw some moose, the northern lights, got a truck stuck in a bog. It was great!

If you ever go back take the coastal route from York all the way up to the Boothbay region....

437 Vikingstar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:03am

re: #360 OldLineTexan

I haven't had the time to go back and look, but I'm sure I saw at least one large standard flag, and a large number of small ones.
One flag looked a little odd until I realized it was creased. several flags reminded me of flags from the early 1800's.

But, if those weren't "real" flags, then they're just craven as well as contemptible.

438 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:21am

Danger! La Babba catte tres viscious!

439 hayseed  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:25am

re: #384 Grammy Cracker

a good freind of my sisters name is Eva Spotted Hourse

440 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:43am

re: #432 Grammy Cracker

Car & Driver's located there, if I remember correctly.

/an outpost of sanity...

441 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:45am

re: #370 pingjockey

Jesse Owens won 4 Gold medals at the Berlin Olympics of 1936.

442 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:52:57am

re: #430 Endangered in MASS

[BLINK]

/sound quality is bad but it is so worth it anyway

443 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:10am

re: #413 LanceKates

Don't they make one of those beeper things you wear on your neck for those moments?

I wonder if they charge you per use for those. If not, I'd get one and just randomly talk to the people.

"Yes hi, I'm bored. How are you?"

"Sir, is there an emergency?"

"well, I can't pick out which tie to wear to the supermarket."

You wear a tie to the supermarket? They are lucky to see me in clothes.

444 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:14am

1.) Fine : This is the word women use to end an argument when they are
right and you need to shut up.

2.) Five Minutes : If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour.
Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more
minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

3.) Nothing : This is the calm before the storm. This means something,
and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing
usually end in fine.

4.) Go Ahead : This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

5.) Loud Sigh : This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement
often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an
idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing
with you about nothing. (Refer back to #3 for the meaning of nothing.)

6.) That's Okay : This is one of the most dangerous statements a woman
can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard
before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake..

7.) Thanks : A woman is thanking you, do not question, or Faint. Just say
you're welcome.

8.) Whatever : Is a women's way of saying F@!K YOU!

9.) Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning
this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but
is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's
wrong?' For the woman's response refer to #3.Then you RUN!

445 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:18am
446 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:32am

Serious moment for those who don't believe there is a fight against Christianity in this country:

Federal Appeals Court rules against coach.

Marcus Borden, football coach for a school in NJ, was told by his school that he is not allowed to lead an optional team prayer after games. So, he stopped, but students could lead the prayer, to which he'd join and bow his head and take a knee along with the players.

The school district received 'complaints' and in 2005 told him that he had to stop doing that too.

A lower judge sided with the Coach and said that if he isn't leading, he is not endorsing, just participating.

The school district appealed and the federal appeals court sided with the school system saying that the coach is not allowed to take a knee and bow his head because it endorses christianity.

Judge D Michael Fisher wrote in the lead opinion that a "reasonable observer would conclude that he is continuing to endorse religion when he bows his head during the pre-meal grace and takes a knee with his team in the locker room while they pray."

That's right. He's not allowed to practice his religion because we have a freedom of religion and that means that in schools you can't have a religion.

Public Schools, a glimpse into the future of socialism in this country.

447 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:42am

re: #433 Render

Long was mortally wounded and captured in the fighting on Sicily and died in a British military hospital.

'43,
R

Yeah, I just remember his world mysteriously went to shit after befriending Owens in '36.

448 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:56am

I don't speak French, I speak Looney Tunes French.

449 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:53:58am

re: #426 loppyd

Show me a college town and I'll show you a moonbat infestation.

IIRC, Farmington was voted the best small town to live in by some major magazine a few years ago.

My aunt & uncle live in a very small town on the way from Augusta to Damariscotta. Beautiful area....simple, open.

I love it up there. Now it's hard to afford the gas for the day trips.

450 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:54:02am

re: #417 Endangered in MASS

"overpriced grocery stores"

Thanks to global warming scaremongers they are all over priced now.

They call it Flex fuel because you need to be flexible enough to grab your ankles if you want to buy a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.

When I go to Whole Foods I ask for an extra bag so it looks like I bought more when I get home to the disapproving look. LOL

451 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:54:15am

re: #415 Grammy Cracker

I am NOT going there.....

LOL

my indian name is "Has a GIANT Ding Dong."

But it isn't how it sounds. I was named in the Hostess factory.

452 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:54:41am

re: #432 Grammy Cracker

Exhibit A: The People's Socialist Republic of Ann Arbor.

/aka the Berkley of the Midwest.

Which explains a lot about Borders. Their HQ is in AA.

453 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:54:49am

re: #442 BabbaZee


Very nice. Thank you.

454 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:03am

Subject: Mrs Neely


NOW THIS IS SWEET!
All women should live so long as to be this kind of old lady!


Toward the end of Sunday service, the Minister asked, 'How many of you have forgiven your enemies?'

80% held up their hands.

The Minister then repeated his question.

All responded this time, except one small elderly lady.

'Mrs. Neely?'; 'Are you not willing to forgive your enemies?'

I don't have any.' She replied, smiling sweetly.

'Mrs. Neely, that is very unusual. How old are you?'

'Ninety-eight.' she replied.

'Oh, Mrs. Neely, would you please come down in front & tell us all how a person can live ninety-eight years & not have an enemy in the world?'

The little sweetheart of a lady tottered down the aisle,
faced the congregation, and said:


'I outlived the bitches.'

455 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:03am

re: #436 loppyd

If you ever go back take the coastal route from York all the way up to the Boothbay region....

NOOOOOOOOO! Don't do that! Stay away! Take the Maine Turnpike all the way!

/loppyd, why are you telling tourists to come spoil the view? Bog the road down with RVs? Take up all the best spots at the clam shack?

456 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:15am

re: #443 galloping granny

You wear a tie to the supermarket? They are lucky to see me in clothes.

*quirks an eyebrow*

....

No, I can't . . . I can't say it..

457 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:25am

re: #445 JamesTKirk

The secret of his appeal is that Obama is the Chosen One, the fabled being who will finally unite Star Trek and Star Wars fans.

458 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:36am

re: #435 JimmyTheClaw

This could be very helpful, since so many people seem not to grasp the whole "thou shalt not" thing.... Perhaps we could get other colloquial translations as well.

Do you know why the 10 Commandments cannot be posted in a courthouse? You can't tell a building full of politicians, lawyers and judges not to lie, cheat or steal. Creates a hostile work environment!

459 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:36am

re: #450 loppyd

When I go to Whole Foods I ask for an extra bag so it looks like I bought more when I get home to the disapproving look. LOL

Op-Ed piece in today's NY Post on how WF Markets has now stopped the use of plastic bags for paper only... The writer points out that cockroaches actually prefer to breed and leave their eggs in the crevasses of paper bags... Enjoy kids!

460 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:56:09am

A six-year-old boy told his father he wanted to marry the little girl across the street. The father, being modern and well-schooled in handling children, hid his smile behind his hand.

"That's a serious step," he said. "Have you thought it out completely?"

"Yes," his young son answered. "We can spend one week in my room and the next in hers. It's right across the street, so I can run home if I get scared of the dark."

"How about transportation?" the father asked.

"I have my wagon, and we both have our tricycles," the little boy answered.

The boy had an answer to every question the father raised.

Finally, in exasperation, his dad asked, "What about babies?
When you're married, you're liable to have babies, you know."

"We've thought about that, too," the little boy replied.

"We're not going to have babies. Every time she lays an egg, I'm going to step on it!"

461 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:56:17am

re: #453 Endangered in MASS

Wet Willies kicked mondo ass

462 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:56:37am

re: #449 infidelia

I love it up there. Now it's hard to afford the gas for the day trips.

I hear you, but it's worth it to me....

Have you ever been to Shaw's Fish & Lobster in New Harbor? If not, you must go....

463 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:56:53am

re: #450 loppyd

When I go to Whole Foods I ask for an extra bag so it looks like I bought more when I get home to the disapproving look. LOL

Hi Loppyd... bumper sticker change alert. I just ordered the McCain with the standing up to Islamist agression disclaimer. Figure I at least owe an explanation.

464 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:57:11am

re: #457 Peacekeeper

The secret of his appeal is that Obama is the Chosen One, the fabled being who will finally unite Star Trek and Star Wars fans.

No!

That's not True!

THat's... IMPOSSIBLE!

...

465 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:58:07am

re: #457 Peacekeeper

The secret of his appeal is that Obama is the Chosen One, the fabled being who will finally unite Star Trek and Star Wars fans.


You refer to the prophecy that will restore balance to the geeks?

466 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:58:18am

re: #437 Vikingstar

I haven't had the time to go back and look, but I'm sure I saw at least one large standard flag, and a large number of small ones.
One flag looked a little odd until I realized it was creased. several flags reminded me of flags from the early 1800's.

But, if those weren't "real" flags, then they're just craven as well as contemptible.

Agreed in #381.

467 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:58:28am
468 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:58:30am

re: #444 JimmyTheClaw

1.) Fine : This is the word women use to end an argument when they are
right and you need to shut up.

2.) Five Minutes : If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour.
Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more
minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

3.) Nothing : This is the calm before the storm. This means something,
and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing
usually end in fine.

4.) Go Ahead : This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

5.) Loud Sigh : This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement
often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an
idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing
with you about nothing. (Refer back to #3 for the meaning of nothing.)

6.) That's Okay : This is one of the most dangerous statements a woman
can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard
before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake..

7.) Thanks : A woman is thanking you, do not question, or Faint. Just say
you're welcome.

8.) Whatever : Is a women's way of saying F@!K YOU!

9.) Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning
this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but
is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's
wrong?' For the woman's response refer to #3.Then you RUN!

This is funny as heck and somewhat true, except the bit about 5 minutes. How long five minutes is depends on whether the woman in question grew up with brothers or sister and how many bathrooms they had. In my house (I have all sister, all daughter and all granddaughters) if you cannot shower, shave, dress, curl your hair, put on your face and be ready and waiting in the car in under 5 minutes you will be physically removed from the bathroom and most likely left behind.

469 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:58:48am

re: #454 JimmyTheClaw

Subject: Mrs Neely


NOW THIS IS SWEET!
All women should live so long as to be this kind of old lady!


Toward the end of Sunday service, the Minister asked, 'How many of you have forgiven your enemies?'

80% held up their hands.

The Minister then repeated his question.

All responded this time, except one small elderly lady.

'Mrs. Neely?'; 'Are you not willing to forgive your enemies?'

I don't have any.' She replied, smiling sweetly.

'Mrs. Neely, that is very unusual. How old are you?'

'Ninety-eight.' she replied.

'Oh, Mrs. Neely, would you please come down in front & tell us all how a person can live ninety-eight years & not have an enemy in the world?'

The little sweetheart of a lady tottered down the aisle,
faced the congregation, and said:


'I outlived the bitches.'


That'd be my mom if she went to church. Her doctor has given up trying to get her to take his advice, now he's just trying to figure out what she's doing right that he doesn't know about.

470 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:59:14am

re: #464 LanceKates

Admit it Lance, before he chops off your hand.

471 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:59:24am

re: #459 tfc3rid

Op-Ed piece in today's NY Post on how WF Markets has now stopped the use of plastic bags for paper only... The writer points out that cockroaches actually prefer to breed and leave their eggs in the crevasses of paper bags... Enjoy kids!


EEEEEEWWWWW!

As of last Thursday they still have the clear plastic bags to put your produce in....

I don't mind getting a paper grocery bag - those plastic ones just pile up and I feel bad throwing them away.

Haven't broken down and gotten the re-usable Whole Foods bag. It's so not me....

472 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:59:25am
473 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:59:40am

re: #470 Peacekeeper

maybe.... maybe I can turn him.

There's still good in him, I can feel it. He won't turn me over to Emperor Gore....

474 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:00:01am

re: #451 LanceKates

my indian name is "Has a GIANT Ding Dong."

But it isn't how it sounds. I was named in the Hostess factory.

Liar. I happen to know your name is Clings to Gun.

475 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:00:13am

re: #465 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yep, pointy ears and lightsabers in one package.

476 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:00:38am
477 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:00:39am

ok done going through my email

478 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:01:25am

re: #473 LanceKates

maybe.... maybe I can turn him.

There's still good in him, I can feel it. He won't turn me over to Emperor Gore....

And Lance was never heard from again....

479 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:02:18am
480 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:02:20am

re: #471 loppyd

EEEEEEWWWWW!

As of last Thursday they still have the clear plastic bags to put your produce in....

I don't mind getting a paper grocery bag - those plastic ones just pile up and I feel bad throwing them away.

Haven't broken down and gotten the re-usable Whole Foods bag. It's so not me....

I re-use mine for everything from lining my wastebaskets to wrapping up breakables I get at auction. The paper ones will be useless for any of that. Only thing they're good for is to put paper in to take to the dump.

We are getting a lot of the "no plastic bag for me" comments at Borders. Ours come from Vietnam, how's that for irony.

481 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:02:32am

Bon Jour Loppy! La bunny petite et savage!

482 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:02:43am
483 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:03:47am
484 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:04:03am

re: #445 JamesTKirk

You're doing it wrong, but bricks were definitely shat.

485 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:04:12am

re: #474 OldLineTexan

Gun in one hand, Bible in the other.

486 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:04:32am

re: #457 Peacekeeper

The secret of his appeal is that Obama is the Chosen One, the fabled being who will finally unite Star Trek and Star Wars fans.

He's Senator Palpatine/Darth Siddious, and the evil Capt. Kirk from the alternate universe.

487 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:04:40am

re: #475 Peacekeeper

Yep, pointy ears and lightsabers in one package.

Modify the main deflector dish with the Force!

488 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:04:55am

re: #480 infidelia

I
re-use mine for everything from lining my wastebaskets to wrapping up
breakables I get at auction. The paper ones will be useless for any of
that. Only thing they're good for is to put paper in to take to the
dump.

We are getting a lot of the "no plastic bag for me" comments at Borders. Ours come from Vietnam, how's that for irony.

If you have a cat, you need those plastic bags for cleaning out the litter pan.

489 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:05:00am

re: #478 Peacekeeper

And Lance was never heard from again....

Hey, even Luke joined the Dark Side for a while.

490 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:05:16am

re: #481 Peacekeeper

Bon Jour Loppy! La bunny petite et savage!

Bon Jour mon amour....

491 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:05:21am

OK, Lizards, I've got two stories I'd LOVE your feedback on... Here is number one... From today's NY Post...


April 16, 2008 -- WASHINGTON - Mayor Bloomberg told Washington lawmakers yesterday to show some courage and start enacting gun laws to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.

"Let's not continue to sit back as a massacre bigger than Virginia Tech continues to take place around our nation," Bloomberg said as he testified before the Congressional Task Force on Illegal Guns.

The mayor, accompanied by Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, complained that other state and federal officials have failed to take common-sense action because they are "cowed by the NRA," the nation's largest pro-gun organization.

Bloomberg, along with other big-city mayors, asked that Congress enact several gun-control bills, including one that would bar gun ownership by individuals on the terrorist no-fly list.

"It's about law enforcement and public safety and nothing more, so what are we waiting for?" Bloomberg said.

492 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:05:32am

re: #478 Peacekeeper

Does this mean that the disturbance in the force wasn't caused by B-5's reactor going super critical?

493 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:05:36am

Well, here's some {sarc}pleasant{/sarc} news:

Nuclear Attack on DC Inevitable

494 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:06:38am

re: #482 rightside

A *real* trap

495 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:07:01am

re: #480 infidelia

I re-use mine for everything from lining my wastebaskets to wrapping up breakables I get at auction. The paper ones will be useless for any of that. Only thing they're good for is to put paper in to take to the dump.

We are getting a lot of the "no plastic bag for me" comments at Borders. Ours come from Vietnam, how's that for irony.

Oh no, not in the least. Paper bags are far and away more useful than the plastic ones. You can -

*give them to the kids to color on, make art projets and so forth
*use them to pick apples and garden produce into
*make Halloween costumes out of them
*cover books with them
*make fire starters from them
*use them as mulch in the garden
*wrap those same breakables or line wastebaskets with them
*drain fried donuts/chicken/bacon on them
*cook a chiken/turkey/salmon in them
*use them for your roasted tomatoes/peppers

Need more?

496 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:07:04am

And I see Yooper beat me to the punch. I'm slow today. :)

497 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:07:12am

re: #469 infidelia

I was working the rack at a store in Gillette one morning when this tiny little old lady came shuffling up to the fixture and reached up and took a carton of nonfiltered Camels. Joking, I said to her, "Maam, don't you know those things are going to kill you?"

She fixed me with a eat-sh*t-and-die-you-butt-inskie-know-it-all look and replied, "My doctor told me the same thing for 30 years. We buried the bassard last month."

I gave her a coupon.

498 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:07:50am

re: #459 tfc3rid

Op-Ed piece in today's NY Post on how WF Markets has now stopped the use of plastic bags for paper only... The writer points out that cockroaches actually prefer to breed and leave their eggs in the crevasses of paper bags... Enjoy kids!

If the store has cockroaches, it's got a lot bigger issues than paper vs. plastic. More like lack of sanitation in produce, deli, and bakery.

Won't matter then if they only have plastic.

499 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:08:14am

re: #491 tfc3rid

[deleted]

And don't do it again.

Signed
Stinky Beumont

500 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:08:21am

re: #457 Peacekeeper

The secret of his appeal is that Obama is the Chosen One, the fabled being who will finally unite Star Trek and Star Wars fans.

Maybe he has figured out how to use the dark side of the force to get us to assimilate.

Change! Resistance is futile.

501 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:08:24am

re: #479 BabbaZee

Abba's two female terrorists?

502 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:08:32am

re: #471 loppyd

EEEEEEWWWWW!

As of last Thursday they still have the clear plastic bags to put your produce in....

I don't mind getting a paper grocery bag - those plastic ones just pile up and I feel bad throwing them away.

Haven't broken down and gotten the re-usable Whole Foods bag. It's so not me....

I shop only at Whole Foods, but I didn't buy their regular bags either Get a couple of nice canvas tote bags. They take up very little space and can be washed when dirty. The paper and plastic bags clog up my wastebasket.

I do have two of the WF insulated bags and several of their reusable wine totes. They're very handy...

503 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:01am

re: #488 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If you have a cat, you need those plastic bags for cleaning out the litter pan.

Not I. I use the paper bags to dipsose of the litter. Plastic, for me, is practically useless. Ziploc bags are much better for cleaning out the pan. Keeps the smell in the bag better. :-)

504 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:05am
505 jaunte  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:21am

re: #491 tfc3rid

"enacting gun laws to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals."
Because as Bloomberg knows, criminals always obey the law.

506 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:24am

re: #486 Kosh's Shadow

He's Senator Palpatine/Darth Siddious, and the evil Capt. Kirk from the alternate universe.


Just don't call him "Dark Lord"...

507 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:49am

re: #499 Bubblehead II

Huh?

508 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:50am

re: #501 Peacekeeper

Not far from reality in Europe

509 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:09:58am

re: #491 tfc3rid

OK, Lizards, I've got two stories I'd LOVE your feedback on... Here is number one... From today's NY Post...

Oh you know what on a crutch! We already HAVE gun laws on the books to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Criminals are not allowed to buy guns or possess guns. Background checks, etc. So forth.

Just exactly what law is it the blithering idiot thinks will do any more to keep already illegal guns out of the hands of the criminals that already have and use them who are not supposed to do so?

Fool!

510 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:10:31am

re: #505 jaunte

"enacting gun laws to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals."
Because as Bloomberg knows, criminals always obey the law.

That was exactly as what I was thinking... What is the definition of a 'criminal'?

511 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:10:32am
512 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:10:38am

re: #493 MrSilverDragon

Think about it this way - it could always be worse...

513 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:10:47am

re: #506 Peacekeeper

Just don't call him "Dark Lord"...

So he can't unite the Lord of the Rings fans with the Star Wars and Star Trek fans?

514 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:10:47am

re: #495 galloping granny

Oh no, not in the least. Paper bags are far and away more useful than the plastic ones. You can -

*give them to the kids to color on, make art projets and so forth
*use them to pick apples and garden produce into
*make Halloween costumes out of them
*cover books with them
*make fire starters from them
*use them as mulch in the garden
*wrap those same breakables or line wastebaskets with them
*drain fried donuts/chicken/bacon on them
*cook a chiken/turkey/salmon in them
*use them for your roasted tomatoes/peppers

Need more?

Excellent produce uses, that is true. Also good for carrying home the stuff from the auctions that I've got all wrapped up in the plastic ones I saved from Market Basket.

I'd like to shop WF sometimes, actually, but I'll have to park the car at the liquor store next door because of the DEFEAT JIHAD sticker.

515 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:11:08am

re: #506 Peacekeeper

Just don't call him "Dark Lord"...

That is Mr Cheney, right?

516 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:11:14am

re: #491 tfc3rid

Farley's dad in Tommy Boy said it best.

Fair enough of course I could get a hell of a good look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.

Just because your name is followed by an R on the ticker at the bottom of the cable news feed does not make it so.

517 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:11:32am

re: #491 tfc3rid

OK, Lizards, I've got two stories I'd LOVE your feedback on... Here is number one... From today's NY Post...

Ok, I'm sure you can predict my feedback:

Mayor Bloomberg told Washington lawmakers yesterday to show some courage and start enacting gun laws to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.

I'd like NYC residents to show some courage and start tar and feathering Mayor Bloomberg to keep his criminal hands off of my firearms.

"Let's not continue to sit back as a massacre bigger than Virginia Tech continues to take place around our nation," Bloomberg said as he testified before the Congressional Task Force on Illegal Guns.

Yes, making more places into Gun Free Zones will protect us from having things like a massacre at a Gun Free Zone. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery.

The mayor, accompanied by Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, complained that other state and federal officials have failed to take common-sense action because they are "cowed by the NRA," the nation's largest pro-gun organization.

He'd prefer that they cowered to socialists like him. Mostly because they are little more than bullies and like to be the most armed ones there.

Bloomberg, along with other big-city mayors, asked that Congress enact several gun-control bills, including one that would bar gun ownership by individuals on the terrorist no-fly list.

I'd like to have congress enact gun-control bills that would bar protection by armed guards from any politician supporting gun-control.

"It's about law enforcement and public safety and nothing more, so what are we waiting for?" Bloomberg said.

Hell to freeze over if you're talking about taking away my guns, you communist dictator.

518 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:11:34am

Babba
"Take a chance on me" Should be the peace plan theme song.

519 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:11:56am

re: #514 infidelia

Where did you get that sticker? I WANT one!

520 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:16am

re: #471 loppyd

EEEEEEWWWWW!

As of last Thursday they still have the clear plastic bags to put your produce in....

I don't mind getting a paper grocery bag - those plastic ones just pile up and I feel bad throwing them away.

Haven't broken down and gotten the re-usable Whole Foods bag. It's so not me....

I did exactly that for when I go to Meijer. They're so useful, IMHO. The handles make them a lot easier to carry from the car to the kitchen, and I only need to make one trip as they hold more than either the paper or the plastic.

Everywhere else I tend to get paper since I find it more useful later on. The plastic (junk) bags rip, tear, and take up space until I can get rid of them.

521 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:26am

re: #518 Peacekeeper

Babba
Should be the peace plan theme song.

522 jaunte  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:30am

re: #510 tfc3rid

That was exactly as what I was thinking... What is the definition of a 'criminal'?

If citizens agree to be disarmed, the definition of a criminal can become more fluid, and subject to the whim of our masters.

523 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:30am

re: #516 formercorpsman

Bloomberg is not an R any longer... He's an I.

524 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:38am

re: #507 tfc3rid

If I posted what I thought of that artical, Stinky would be deleting it amd me as well.

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.

525 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:40am

re: #496 MrSilverDragon

And I see Yooper beat me to the punch. I'm slow today. :)

Ah, never mind that, gave you a +1 anyway. :-)

526 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:12:53am

re: #511 Grammy Cracker

Grammy, I tells ya, [redacted]

527 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:13:12am

re: #517 LanceKates

Just floating his VEEP ideas...

528 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:13:23am

re: #523 tfc3rid

It's all hamburger.

529 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:13:31am

re: #501 Peacekeeper

Abba's two female terrorists?

Good song. :-)

530 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:13:31am

re: #491 tfc3rid

OK, Lizards, I've got two stories I'd LOVE your feedback on... Here is number one... From today's NY Post...

He didn't really say that about the terrorists on the no-fly list, did he? No Mayor of New York is that dumb...

531 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:13:34am

re: #502 Grammy Cracker

I shop only at Whole Foods, but I didn't buy their regular bags either Get a couple of nice canvas tote bags. They take up very little space and can be washed when dirty. The paper and plastic bags clog up my wastebasket.

I do have two of the WF insulated bags and several of their reusable wine totes. They're very handy...

* * *
Likewise--as a GREEN LGF lizard, i too use re-useable insulated grocery bags--Giant Food gives a $.03 credit per non-plastic bag of groceries.

Taking one's own shopping bag also cuts down on impulse shopping.

532 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:14:11am

re: #518 Peacekeeper

Babba
"Take a chance on me" Should be the peace plan theme song.

"Won't Get Fooled Again"

533 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:14:18am

re: #524 Bubblehead II

If I posted what I thought of that artical, Stinky would be deleting it amd me as well.

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.

Based on Obama's comments/feelings about the 'gun hugging' rednecks out there and Bloomberg's fierce advocacy for gun control, wouldn't they be a match made in heaven?

534 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:14:20am

re: #523 tfc3rid

Bloomberg is not an R any longer... He's an I.

.....short for IDIOT!

535 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:14:29am

re: #514 infidelia

Excellent produce uses, that is true. Also good for carrying home the stuff from the auctions that I've got all wrapped up in the plastic ones I saved from Market Basket.

I'd like to shop WF sometimes, actually, but I'll have to park the car at the liquor store next door because of the DEFEAT JIHAD sticker.

One of the things that I have always despised about the plastic grocery bags is that in order the keep the stuff from rolling around in the trunk you have to tie the handles together - and then you practically have to cut the things to get the bag open again to unpack. Not to mention that if they are not very well made or are overpacked you pick them up by the tied handles and the whole mess falls out the bottom. Usually spaghetti sauce.

536 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:15:04am

re: #530 infidelia

He didn't really say that about the terrorists on the no-fly list, did he? No Mayor of New York is that dumb...

Of course he said that...

537 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:15:24am

re: #527 tfc3rid

Just floating his VEEP ideas...

Let him, Mikey Moore and a few others from the radlical left spend a few years in the sudan as commoners rather than esteemed guests.

Then let them talk about how societies in which the populace are forcibly disarmed are good.

538 razorbacker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:15:27am

I'm outtahere.

Y'all play nice.

And remember, natural methods are best for relieving stress.

So, punch a hippy for Momma.

539 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:15:33am

re: #523 tfc3rid

Bloomberg is not an R any longer... He's an I.


what's that stand for....Idiot?

540 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:15:44am

re: #513 Kosh's Shadow

So he can't unite the Lord of the Rings fans with the Star Wars and Star Trek fans?

And the Harry Potter fans? Of course, then he'd have to be called Dark-Lord-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

541 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:09am

re: #515 tfc3rid

Not quite.

542 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:10am

re: #467 rightside

That's downright funny because Obama's foreign policy guys are all former Carter guys - who would sell Israel down the river at every opportunity - just as Carter is doing right now.

And I really think that it's laughable that Obama thinks there's no one better on Israel. I can think of at least one US senator who is better. Joe Lieberman.

Another? Arlen Specter. (he supports Aish's Jerusalem Fellowships IIRC).

So, he's no better than third, and that's just off the top of my head. However, as I note above, that he's surrounded himself with former Carter policy wonks leads me to believe that he's not only awful on Israel, but awful on foreign policy in general. After all, he'd have no problem with his foreign policy people meeting with terrorists to discuss terms.

543 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:22am

re: #531 alegrias

I'm one of those conservatives who is fine with people wanting to be "green" if that is what they wish.

I find it ironic, how most of the militant greenies hate the morality imposed by religions, but fail to see the contradictions in their own beliefs and impositions.

545 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:38am

re: #506 Peacekeeper

Just don't call him "Dark Lord"...

One Barack to rule them all, one Barack to find them
One Barack to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
In the land of DC where all the politicians lie.

546 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:48am

re: #535 galloping granny

When they ask me paper or plastic at WF, I ponder out loud.
Cut a tree....
Choke a seal....

Decisions decisions.

547 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:50am

re: #539 paxnhymn

what's that stand for....Idiot?

re: #539 paxnhymn

what's that stand for....Idiot?

Hah! GMTA, see my #534....

548 Render  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:16:54am

re: #501 Peacekeeper

mmmmm Agnetha mmmmm

WATERLOO,
R

549 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:17:07am

re: #541 laZardo

Booooo... Come on now... He hasn't at least threatened our country...

550 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:17:23am

re: #509 galloping granny

Heh. We have a busload of Chicago aldermen going down to Springfield today to ralley for, guess what, more gun control. This in the state where you can't even have ammo w/o a freaking FOID card. This from the city where you can't even legally own a handgun. This in the state and city with the toughest gun control laws on the books already.

Buncha fascist assholes these aldermen are.

551 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:17:47am

PAX

I just minused you by accident #539....

552 Kirly  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:17:47am

Morning lizards. What's on the docket for the day?

Michael Yon's latest book has made it to #8 on Amazon.com indicating there are plenty of people out there who want to know the truth about the good that's happening in iraq and how we are winning! Which reminds me, did the obumblerama stick his foot in his mouth yet this morning?

speaking of the obamessiah, it seems to me that he has taken a page from the jihadi's who are here waging their legal jihad against us. keep your true purposes secret while lying to everyone about everything you stand for. of course, they being fallible, they screw up and the mask does indeed slip. but, i really see little difference. they both, the jihadi's like CAIR and obama and his wife, want to destroy our way our life. they are despicable.

553 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:17:57am

re: #533 tfc3rid

Oh the humanity.

554 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:18:00am

re: #532 JamesTKirk

"Won't Get Fooled Again"

That would put an appropriate end to the "peace" plan.

555 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:18:13am

re: #531 alegrias

* * *
Likewise--as a GREEN LGF lizard, i too use re-useable insulated grocery bags--Giant Food gives a $.03 credit per non-plastic bag of groceries.

Taking one's own shopping bag also cuts down on impulse shopping.

Doesn't for us. We always have spares in the trunk. And Hannafords has these really nice bags with huge graphics of great food on one side with an appropriate quote on the other. If you're lucky and buy the right thing they will give you one for free. Otherwise, they are really nice totes made out of ripstop for 99 cents. Ninety nine cents is nowhere near enough to stop impulse shopping.

/Never set foot in the store without going to lunch first!

556 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:18:43am

re: #494 JamesTKirk

going to have to look at that one at home!

557 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:18:45am

re: #553 Bubblehead II

Can't see YouTube at work... Do tell...

558 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:18:47am

re: #550 Honorary Yooper

Heh. We have a busload of Chicago aldermen going down to Springfield today to ralley for, guess what, more gun control. This in the state where you can't even have ammo w/o a freaking FOID card. This from the city where you can't even legally own a handgun. This in the state and city with the toughest gun control laws on the books already.

Buncha fascist assholes these aldermen are.

Run a novel idea past 'em.
Make crime illegal.....

559 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:19:15am

re: #542 lawhawk

That's downright funny because Obama's foreign policy guys are all former Carter guys - who would sell Israel down the river at every opportunity - just as Carter is doing right now.

And I really think that it's laughable that Obama thinks there's no one better on Israel. I can think of at least one US senator who is better. Joe Lieberman.

Another? Arlen Specter. (he supports Aish's Jerusalem Fellowships IIRC).

So, he's no better than third, and that's just off the top of my head. However, as I note above, that he's surrounded himself with former Carter policy wonks leads me to believe that he's not only awful on Israel, but awful on foreign policy in general. After all, he'd have no problem with his foreign policy people meeting with terrorists to discuss terms.

* * *
Lawhawk, Arlen Specter's cancer is back--may he live to fight jihad a while longer. This morning I met some nurse anesthetists from Scranton PA that were going to lobby him today on Medicare issues.

560 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:19:43am

re: #467 rightside


Barry O grammar alert. Nobody is a bigger flim flam artist than I.

561 Kirly  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:19:48am

re: #535 galloping granny

One of the things that I have always despised about the plastic grocery bags is that in order the keep the stuff from rolling around in the trunk you have to tie the handles together - and then you practically have to cut the things to get the bag open again to unpack. Not to mention that if they are not very well made or are overpacked you pick them up by the tied handles and the whole mess falls out the bottom. Usually spaghetti sauce.

i bought some of those trunk things from case logic. they collapse until you put your stuff in them and then they keep your stuff from rolling around in the trunk. they were at costco once. damn that store!

562 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:20:02am

re: #535 galloping granny

One of the things that I have always despised about the plastic grocery bags is that in order the keep the stuff from rolling around in the trunk you have to tie the handles together - and then you practically have to cut the things to get the bag open again to unpack. Not to mention that if they are not very well made or are overpacked you pick them up by the tied handles and the whole mess falls out the bottom. Usually spaghetti sauce.

I go absolutely nuts trying to get the damn things separated and opened at work. I call them Ho Chi Min's Revenge. But packing 40 pounds of oversize books in a paper sack is not going to be much more fun. There is something to say for the bring-your-own bags, they are usually much more functional.

563 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:20:17am

re: #535 galloping granny

One of the things that I have always despised about the plastic grocery bags is that in order the keep the stuff from rolling around in the trunk you have to tie the handles together

Get a couple of bungee cords, put them through the handles and stretch them across the trunk. Keeps the bags upright and stops them from sliding around.

564 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:20:46am
Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie
Which we ascribe to heaven.

— William Shakespeare


We are the ones we've been waiting for?

565 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:21:15am
566 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:21:21am

re: #557 tfc3rid

Edward Marrow (sp) and the Hindenberg disaster.

567 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:21:38am

re: #564 zmdavid

We are the ones we've been waiting for?

excellent catch!

568 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:21:52am

re: #551 loppyd

PAX

I just minused you by accident #539....

but I know I'm a big ol' plus in your lil' yankee heart!

:-D

569 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:22:04am

re: #550 Honorary Yooper

How the hell can you have tougher gun control laws if you can't even own guns anymore? The only way to go from there would be ex post facto.

570 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:22:33am

Morning, lizards.

571 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:22:48am

re: #546 jcm

When they ask me paper or plastic at WF, I ponder out loud.
Cut a tree....
Choke a seal....

Decisions decisions.

I get the "no plastic bag, save a tree" line all the time. If my feet hurt I mutter something about if they want to save trees then get rid of all these damn books...

572 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #543 formercorpsman

I'm one of those conservatives who is fine with people wanting to be "green" if that is what they wish.

I find it ironic, how most of the militant greenies hate the morality imposed by religions, but fail to see the contradictions in their own beliefs and impositions.

I don't re-use canvas bags to be "green". I do it because they are so much easier to use. I am under no delusions about saving the earth, and I'm not seeking to impose my habits on anyone else.

I'm one of those conservatives who believes our earth and everything in and on it was given to us as a gift from God. It is therefore disrespectful and ungrateful to trash the place, IMHO.

573 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:23:28am
574 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:23:37am

re: #513 Kosh's Shadow

So he can't unite the Lord of the Rings fans with the Star Wars and Star Trek fans?

The the geek shall inherit the earth.

575 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:23:44am

re: #566 Bubblehead II

Ahhhhh... Famous footage...

576 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:24:19am

re: #569 laZardo

How the hell can you have tougher gun control laws if you can't even own guns anymore? The only way to go from there would be ex post facto.

The criminals have guns and are using them in crime. Clearly guns are the problem.
/L3

577 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:24:30am

re: #543 formercorpsman

I'm one of those conservatives who is fine with people wanting to be "green" if that is what they wish.

I find it ironic, how most of the militant greenies hate the morality imposed by religions, but fail to see the contradictions in their own beliefs and impositions.

* * *
My green-ness is practically inherited from folks who survived the Great Depression here & in Europe. Darning socks, mending things, making them do or doing without--conservative as in keeping things in good working order before replacing them.

Plus, using elbow grease burns calories, so I walk to grocery shop for exercise. It's elitist I know--yet I don't buy arugula!

578 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:24:43am

re: #569 laZardo

How the hell can you have tougher gun control laws if you can't even own guns anymore? The only way to go from there would be ex post facto.

They will ban guns for police...

Our new governor here in NY was in favor of a 'shoot to harm' law... If a cop shot a perp and kiled him, the officer would be prosecuted.

579 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:24:47am

re: #572 Grammy Cracker

I don't re-use canvas bags to be "green". I do it because they are so much easier to use. I am under no delusions about saving the earth, and I'm not seeking to impose my habits on anyone else.

I'm one of those conservatives who believes our earth and everything in and on it was given to us as a gift from God. It is therefore disrespectful and ungrateful to trash the place, IMHO.

Yup. And I don't grow an organic garden because I am a hippy freak, I grow an organic garden because the grandfather who taught me how to garden more than a half-century ago grew a mostly organic garden. And besides, I don't see any point in pumping stuff full of chemicals that don't need to be there.

580 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:11am

re: #572 Grammy Cracker

Hence, CONSERVation. (:

re: #543 formercorpsman

Agree with you there. I think there's nothing wrong with owning a large SUV if you use the space.

581 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:16am

re: #559 alegrias

I didn't realize that his cancer had returned. Not my favorite GOPer, but wish him and his family well.

582 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:25am

re: #505 jaunte

"enacting gun laws to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals."
Because as Bloomberg knows, criminals always obey the law.

Can I question the intelligence of voters in New Yawk City yet?

First Chuck the Schmuck, then Hillary, now Bloomberg?

583 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:35am

re: #563 Bubblehead II

One of the things that I have always despised about the plastic grocery bags is that in order the keep the stuff from rolling around in the trunk you have to tie the handles together

Get a couple of bungee cords, put them through the handles and stretch them across the trunk. Keeps the bags upright and stops them from sliding around.

I found an easier solution. Use bags that fit your trunk better. That's one reason why I get paper and why I got the reuseable cloth bags. The cloth ones must however, have a rigid plastic bottom, or I'll refuse to get them. Otherwise, they're as bad as the plastic ones. Everything stands up in the small, but tall trunk nicely, and I can fit more in the trunk.

Those damn plastic bags are just so small, IMHO, as well. Why carry five plastic bags when I can have one cloth or one paper bag?

584 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:39am
I have posted watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem;
they will never be silent day or night.
You who call on the LORD,
give yourselves no rest,
and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem
and makes her the praise of the earth.
~ Isaiah 62 6;7
585 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:46am

re: #576 jcm

The criminals have guns and are using them in crime. Clearly guns are the problem.
/L3

And if we just pass more laws limiting gun ownership, that'll clearly take care of the problem.

Much like making drugs illegal has stopped drug use and like making murder illegal stopped murderers.

How about this, liberals.... When someone tries to shoot me, I shoot them. Boom. I'm not a victim and that criminal isn't going to be committing more crimes.

More effective than any law.

586 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:25:48am

Obama on the couch,

Hewitt is on to something important when he suggests that Obama is projecting his own bitterness and frustration onto middle America because the Marxist agenda has not yet been accepted (and hopefully never will) in this country. His message resonates with the extreme left because they suffer from the same bitterness and frustration that they are not recognized and appreciated as the incredibly wonderful people whose superior intellect and understanding should dominate because they know what's best for us all.

Bingo. Give the man a cigar!

587 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:26:07am

re: #502 Grammy Cracker

I shop only at Whole Foods, but I didn't buy their regular bags either Get a couple of nice canvas tote bags. They take up very little space and can be washed when dirty. The paper and plastic bags clog up my wastebasket.

I do have two of the WF insulated bags and several of their reusable wine totes. They're very handy...

My LL Bean totes are full of sand as they should be! :~)

Are you in Maine, BTW?

588 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:26:14am

re: #576 jcm

The solution, find a way to get guns away from the criminals.

Without using guns.

/good luck on that, guys.

589 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:26:22am

re: #582 OldLineTexan

Can I question the intelligence of voters in New Yawk City yet?

First Chuck the Schmuck, then Hillary, now Bloomberg?

yet?

*clamps hand over mouth*

590 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:26:27am

re: #572 Grammy Cracker

I'm with you.

Please don't take offense, I was not including you or folks like you in my post.

It's the folks who take it to the extreme.

591 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:26:52am

re: #552 Kirly

Morning lizards. What's on the docket for the day?

Michael Yon's latest book has made it to #8 on Amazon.com indicating there are plenty of people out there who want to know the truth about the good that's happening in iraq and how we are winning! Which reminds me, did the obumblerama stick his foot in his mouth yet this morning?

speaking of the obamessiah, it seems to me that he has taken a page from the jihadi's who are here waging their legal jihad against us. keep your true purposes secret while lying to everyone about everything you stand for. of course, they being fallible, they screw up and the mask does indeed slip. but, i really see little difference. they both, the jihadi's like CAIR and obama and his wife, want to destroy our way our life. they are despicable.

* * *
Obama/Taqqiya 08!

592 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:27:38am
593 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:27:51am

re: #588 laZardo

The solution, find a way to get guns away from the criminals.

Without using guns.

/good luck on that, guys.

Quote from the movie aliens, when told that the troop of space marines need to give up their ammo:

What're we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?

594 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:27:52am

re: #571 infidelia

I get the "no plastic bag, save a tree" line all the time. If my feet hurt I mutter something about if they want to save trees then get rid of all these damn books...

Both are recyclable. Plastic uses less energy in production. Plastic does take longer to degrade.

In the larger picture, it's probably a wash.

Seattle is talking a 5¢ tax on bags.

Just another place for lefty to control the individual, another tax point.

595 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:28:09am

you know, I wanna go way out in left field for a moment. AS nutty and strange as this plygamist compound crap is that we recently see in the news is, something is becoming painfully clear: our government doesn't like communes, compounds, etc., etal. Could it be that we have truly headed toward a Big Brother state, and they don't like what they can't control. There's power in numbers. Maybe we need to wake up!

596 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:28:24am

re: #569 laZardo

How the hell can you have tougher gun control laws if you can't even own guns anymore? The only way to go from there would be ex post facto.

Beats me. Of course, you are talking about Chicago aldermen, for whom a jail sentence is merely a workplace hazard that should be regulated by OSHA. Logic was, is, and never shall be their strong point.

597 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:28:49am

re: #589 LanceKates

Let's not forget electing Eliot Spitzer by a HUGE amrgin as well as sending Mario Cuomo to three terms as governor...

NYC and it's immediate suburbs make up the majority of New York votes and throw the elections here to the Dems constantly...

598 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:29:08am

re: #578 tfc3rid

They will ban guns for police...

Our new governor here in NY was in favor of a 'shoot to harm' law... If a cop shot a perp and kiled him, the officer would be prosecuted.

That'll make for more dead cops.

599 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:29:19am

re: #594 jcm

Both are recyclable. Plastic uses less energy in production. Plastic does take longer to degrade.

In the larger picture, it's probably a wash.

Seattle is talking a 5¢ tax on bags.

Just another place for lefty to control the individual, another tax point.


Plastic biodegrades MUCH more quickly if mixed with things like yard waste, which many landfills refuse to accept.

We're raping the earth with our things that take 'forever' to biodegrade, but they refuse to take the steps needed to speed the biodegrading process.

600 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:29:44am

re: #592 Kenneth

{Ken!}

601 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:08am

re: #578 tfc3rid

They will ban guns for police...

Our new governor here in NY was in favor of a 'shoot to harm' law... If a cop shot a perp and kiled him, the officer would be prosecuted.

OH FUCK! Take that moron governor and put his ass through a combat handgun course then shoot no shoot sims.

A wounded bad guyu with a gun, still has his gun and the capacity to use it.

How do people that [deleted] stupid get into office?

602 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:10am

re: #577 alegrias

* * *
My green-ness is practically inherited from folks who survived the Great Depression here & in Europe. Darning socks, mending things, making them do or doing without--conservative as in keeping things in good working order before replacing them.

Plus, using elbow grease burns calories, so I walk to grocery shop for exercise. It's elitist I know--yet I don't buy arugula!

Except for shoes and the obvious I haven't shopped for clothing at the mall in 20 years. I can go to the resale shops and get designer clothing in natural fibers that's well made for half what the new polyester junk would cost me. The car is 9 years old. It's a Subie and has needed zilch engine work since I got it 4 years ago. It's not being "green", it's being poor and recognizing real value.

603 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:11am

re: #579 galloping granny

Yup. And I don't grow an organic garden because I am a hippy freak, I grow an organic garden because the grandfather who taught me how to garden more than a half-century ago grew a mostly organic garden. And besides, I don't see any point in pumping stuff full of chemicals that don't need to be there.

Yes, exactly! There are enough chemicals in my daily environment that I cannot avoid. I don't have to voluntarily ingest more! And, IMO the food tastes better!

/starting my four varieties of organic tomatoes today! Yummy!

604 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:15am

re: #594 jcm

The NY City Council was recently looking into a measure to ban plastic bags...

In my field of business right now, one of the big NYC related debates and work issues is lifting the ban on commerical food waste disposal devices and it's impact on the water quality.

605 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:39am
606 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:40am

re: #598 OldLineTexan

But remember the Liberal meme... Cops are pigs...

607 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:48am

re: #597 tfc3rid

Reason enough to move away. Even rats will abandon a sinking ship.

re: #598 OldLineTexan

That'll make for more dead cops.

Given the way the left hates cops, they may support such a thing.

I'm always amazed that people on the left, who always seem to hate cops, always support actions that lead to a police state (like, say, only cops should be allowed to have guns)

608 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:30:54am

re: #577 alegrias

My response is the same as in #472.

I am similar in my actions as well.

My thoughts are the eco freaks who create more emissions they are against when they burn down new developments, etc.

609 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:31:01am

re: #560 Endangered in MASS

That sounds so much like a "Quimby"ism LOL

610 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:31:05am

re: #583 Honorary Yooper

Good idea's, but I drive a 79 Chevy pick-up. It is a royal pain having to drop the tailgate and climb to the front just to retrieve a can of something that rolled all the way up there. Each situation requires its own solution. What works for you and I may not work for someone else.

611 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:32:09am
612 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:32:16am

re: #599 LanceKates

I will admit, one thing NYC does right is its recycline program for yard wastes... Last weekend, the sanitation department was offering free compost for yards... As much as you want, come and take it...

We took plenty for our yard...

613 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:32:23am
614 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:32:30am

re: #586 Kenneth

Obama on the couch,

Bingo. Give the man a cigar!

I think Obama is also projecting the bitterness he hears "reverend" Wright rant about every week. Twenty years of that crap is bound to run off.

615 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:32:54am

re: #590 formercorpsman

I'm with you.

Please don't take offense, I was not including you or folks like you in my post.

It's the folks who take it to the extreme.

Oh, none taken. I'm not really big on the *I'm OFFENDED* movement, either. LOL

616 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:33:11am

re: #615 Grammy Cracker

Oh, none taken. I'm not really big on the *I'm OFFENDED* movement, either. LOL

I'm OFFENDED!

617 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:33:26am

re: #566 Bubblehead II

Edward Marrow (sp) and the Hindenberg disaster.

Edward R. Murrow did not utter the famous "oh, the humanity!" line upon seeing the Hindenburg disaster. It was a radio announcer named Herb Morrison.

618 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #612 tfc3rid

I
will admit, one thing NYC does right is its recycline program for yard
wastes... Last weekend, the sanitation department was offering free
compost for yards... As much as you want, come and take it...

We took plenty for our yard...

I didn't realize you had yards in NYC. I thought that's what Central Park was - everyone's yard.

619 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:33:52am

re: #577 alegrias

Take care of your gear and you gear will take care of you.

620 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:01am

re: #587 loppyd

My LL Bean totes are full of sand as they should be! :~)

Are you in Maine, BTW?

From now until about the middle of October, EVERYTHING I own should be full of sand.

621 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:13am
622 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:18am

re: #618 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I didn't realize you had yards in NYC. I thought that's what Central Park was - everyone's yard.

Nah, I have a yard... It's ten feet wide by 30 feet long.

623 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:41am

re: #578 tfc3rid

They will ban guns for police...

Our new governor here in NY was in favor of a 'shoot to harm' law... If a cop shot a perp and kiled him, the officer would be prosecuted.

Why can't cops just shoot the guns out of the hands of criminals, like they do in the movies?

/clueless lib

624 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:43am

MSNBC bends over for Al-Sadr.
Iraq's biggest aid agency? Muqtada al-Sadr & Co

625 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:45am

re: #599 LanceKates

Plastic biodegrades MUCH more quickly if mixed with things like yard waste, which many landfills refuse to accept.

We're raping the earth with our things that take 'forever' to biodegrade, but they refuse to take the steps needed to speed the biodegrading process.

Part of the reason things take forever to biodegrade is due to how out landfills are designed. We have to design landfills such that no leachate can get out can contaminate drinking water. They also have to be capped daily with clean soil to contain the smells.

This is one reason why I favor separating the waste streams. It'd free up landfill space for what really should go into a landfill, and let things that should biodegrade, biodegrade properly. Also, what can be recycled, recycled. There's only so much land for landfills, and the further a landfill is from town, the more expensive waste disposal becomes.

626 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:34:53am

re: #609 rightside


Pretty much straight from the monorail episode.

627 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:35:23am

re: #616 LanceKates

I'm OFFENDED!

Then let's carbarbeque!

628 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:35:31am

re: #623 Occasional Reader

Why can't cops just shoot the guns out of the hands of criminals, like they do in the movies?

/clueless lib

Exaaaactly...

629 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:35:55am

re: #577 alegrias

My green-ness is practically inherited from folks who survived the Great Depression here & in Europe. Darning socks, mending things, making them do or doing without

Darn socks? No... DAMN socks! God DAMN socks!

-Hints from the Rev. Wright

630 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:36:22am

re: #594 jcm

Both are recyclable. Plastic uses less energy in production. Plastic does take longer to degrade.

In the larger picture, it's probably a wash.

Seattle is talking a 5¢ tax on bags.

Just another place for lefty to control the individual, another tax point.

Saw a news clip the other day that some town I think it's in northern NH is using the methane gas from under the town landfill to power 5,000 homes.

631 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:36:27am

re: #617 Occasional Reader

We had this play of sorts consisting of famous old-time radio clips back in the 5th grade and I was cast as the Hindenburg guy.

I was trained not to smile on stage for the crying parts. >____>;;;

/oh, the humanity, indeed.

632 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:36:47am

re: #616 LanceKates

I'm OFFENDED!

Now you stop that! LOL

633 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:36:56am

Morning, lizards. Anyone know this story?

Library of Congress research suggests white Obama's ancestors owned slaves

Typical.

634 loppyd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:02am

Supreme Court Allows Lethal Injection for Exection


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has upheld Kentucky's use of lethal injections for executions.

The justices, in a fractured decision, rejected a constitutional challenge to the procedures in place in Kentucky, which uses three drugs to sedate, paralyze and kill inmates.

Executions have been on hold since September, when the court agreed to hear the Kentucky case. There was no immediate indication when they would resume.

635 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:04am

re: #613 BabbaZee


Where the Belmonts at?

636 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:13am

re: #622 tfc3rid

Nah, I have a yard... It's ten feet wide by 30 feet long.

That's not bad. Most places in Philly have the typical postage-stamp yards.

637 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:36am
638 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:36am

re: #623 Occasional Reader

If cops could have one superpower...

639 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:37:48am

re: #617 Occasional Reader

I stand corrected. Thank you.

640 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:06am

re: #636 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's not bad. Most places in Philly have the typical postage-stamp yards.

Like Citizen's Bank Park?

641 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:07am

re: #603 Grammy Cracker

Yes, exactly! There are enough chemicals in my daily environment that I cannot avoid. I don't have to voluntarily ingest more! And, IMO the food tastes better!

/starting my four varieties of organic tomatoes today! Yummy!

Only four varieties Grammy? I think I'm growing close to 10 times that number of varieties of tomatoes. Waiting desperately for the UPS man to magically appear with my pots & flats order. I thought I had bought enough but boy-oh-boy was I wrong. For some reason I ended up with nearly 100% germination this year on most of the peppers and tomatoes. I've got about 150 pepper plants in a couple of dozen varieties (hot and sweet) and had to stop potting tomatoes up Friday at 114 with the job less than 1/4 done.

Guess I'm providing the whole town with tomatoes this year.

642 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:24am

re: #610 Bubblehead II

Cool. I drive an '02 PT Cruiser. The trunk is tall, and set up better for tall bags. Different solutions for different vehicles.

643 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:45am

re: #639 Bubblehead II

I stand corrected. Thank you.

You can sit corrected, if you prefer.

644 JWM  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:50am

re: #588 laZardo

The solution, find a way to get guns away from the criminals.

Without using guns.

/good luck on that, guys.


The solution is simple. They'll pass a new law making crime illegal. That'll solve everything.

JWM

645 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:51am
646 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:38:55am

re: #635 Endangered in MASS

They actually gig with Johnny Maestro now

647 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:01am

re: #633 godfrey

Morning, lizards. Anyone know this story?

Library of Congress research suggests white Obama's ancestors owned slaves

Typical.

Swell. Now he can throw great-great-great granny under the bus.

648 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:03am

re: #614 galloping granny

Absolutely. One chooses particular friends for a reason, and there must be something compelling to Obama about these older male "he was a like a father to me" characters that populate his life...

649 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:13am

re: #640 tfc3rid

Like Citizen's Bank Park?

LOL. But it's a great place to watch a ball game.

650 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:14am

re: #612 tfc3rid

Last weekend, the sanitation department was offering free compost for yards

To be accurate, I'm guessing it wasn't free free, since I presume you already paid for it through taxes. You just didn't have to pay twice.

651 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:42am
652 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #587 loppyd

My LL Bean totes are full of sand as they should be! :~)

Are you in Maine, BTW?

We bought and wore LL Bean for decades. Until they moved all their production to China. When they closed the last shoe factory in Maine we stopped buying LL Bean.

653 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:39:50am

re: #621 ploome hineni


no. I agree. Is it me though, or does the government (be it local, state or federal) spend a lot of resources crawling around looking for dirt on some of these sects? I mean it looks weird> Say this was an individual instead of a group. Someone called in the same anonymous allegation about an individual. That individual would have the right to face his/her accuser. In this case we don't even know who the accuser is, or even if there is one! It just smells bad!

654 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:40:16am

ANd Boker effen Tov.

655 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:40:29am

OK, so here's something else that really got me going this morning...

So, I'm on my Express Bus heading into work and this high school age girl gets on the bus... She's probably about 14 years old but is dolled up to look a LOT older...

She has a tshirt on that says "NICE PIECE OF A$$" Without the dollar signs... Oversexualization? This is the future of America...

656 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:40:33am

re: #650 Silhouette

To be accurate, I'm guessing it wasn't free free, since I presume you already paid for it through taxes. You just didn't have to pay twice.

Wait... do you mean to say that "free health care" might not actually be... NONONO I refuse to contemplate the thought!

657 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:41:12am

Teheran's Chief of Police Caught in Bed with Six Nude Hookers

Tehran's police chief, Reza Zarei (photo), has been arrested after he was found nude in a local brothel with six naked prostitutes, according to report on the Iranian Farda News.

Before he was arrested, he was in charge of 'moralizing the city.'

Oh, the humanity.

658 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:41:34am

re: #649 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL. But it's a great place to watch a ball game.

I'll find out this weekend... Of course, I probably shouldn't wear my David Wright jersey...

659 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:41:58am

re: #657 godfrey

Tehran's police chief, Reza Zarei (photo), has been arrested after he was found nude in a local brothel with six naked prostitutes

Reza was offended ambitious.

660 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:00am

re: #657 godfrey

Ah, but he claims they were just praying. Really.

661 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:03am

re: #643 Occasional Reader

Have to stand up sometime during the day. The legs go numb if I don't.

662 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:06am

re: #655 tfc3rid

She has a tshirt on that says "NICE PIECE OF A$$" Without the dollar signs... Oversexualization? This is the future of America...


This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF WHORES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
~ Revelation 17:5

663 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:12am

re: #622 tfc3rid

Nah, I have a yard... It's ten feet wide by 30 feet long.

Whereabouts in NYC you at? I used to live in the Village and a couple years on the UWS a block from the park.

664 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:13am

re: #633 godfrey

Morning, lizards. Anyone know this story?

Library of Congress research suggests white Obama's ancestors owned slaves

Typical.

No surprise there. He doesn't acknowledge those white ancestors - even the ones that raised him - in his quest to be the First Black President. Funny how he does not see that he labels himself with the old Jim Crow definitions he claims to so despise - that old "one drop" rule.

665 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:25am

re: #650 Silhouette

Well, yeah it wasn't free free... Of course the extreme taxes help pay for it...

666 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:30am

re: #644 JWM

Redundancy is their specialty.

re: #651 Ben Hur

Dinnerjacket shall be furious that his efforts didn't earn him a medal this year.

667 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:42:46am

So I have no slaveholders in my family tree, but Obama does.

Heh. Heh heh. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

668 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:20am

re: #655 tfc3rid

OK, so here's something else that really got me going this morning...

So, I'm on my Express Bus heading into work and this high school age girl gets on the bus... She's probably about 14 years old but is dolled up to look a LOT older...

She has a tshirt on that says "NICE PIECE OF A$$" Without the dollar signs... Oversexualization? This is the future of America...


Parent(s) need a whack with a clue bat.

669 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:31am

re: #655 tfc3rid

Maybe she should go live in Paris with the other a**es.

670 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:32am
671 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:33am

re: #663 infidelia

Whereabouts in NYC you at? I used to live in the Village and a couple years on the UWS a block from the park.

I'm in Queens, near Middle Village.

672 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:35am

re: #662 BabbaZee

This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF WHORES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

~ Revelation 17:5

/this year's school art folio theme - the "seven deadly sins."

673 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:36am

re: #657 godfrey

Teheran's Chief of Police Caught in Bed with Six Nude Hookers


Before he was arrested, he was in charge of 'moralizing the city.'

Oh, the humanity.

Out-Spitzering Spitzer?

674 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:43:43am

re: #667 JamesTKirk

So I have no slaveholders in my family tree, but Obama does.

Heh. Heh heh. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, I find that ironic as well, as it's the same for me.

Now, if there are reparations, does that mean Obama has to pay?

/Do I need to?

675 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:44:06am

re: #657 godfrey

Teheran's Chief of Police Caught in Bed with Six Nude Hookers

Before he was arrested, he was in charge of 'moralizing the city.'

Oh, the humanity.

Eliot Spitzer is so jealous.

676 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:44:12am

re: #664 galloping granny

Funny how he does not see that he labels himself with the old Jim Crow definitions he claims to so despise - that old "one drop" rule.

Yep. Although at the same time, it appears to be somewhat optional; he gets to sort of pick his race. Hey, I have African ancestors, too (if you go back far enough, say 50,000 years or so); why can't *I* be the first black President?

677 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:44:43am

re: #670 Kenneth

Hold your hand up high!

Oh YEAAAHHH!
144,000 updings!
That was great!

Raise yer hand!

678 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:44:46am

re: #655 tfc3rid

Generation Ho.


Otherwise:

“Let’s be clear, there has been a really systematic effort to suggest that I’m not sufficiently pro-Israel,” he said. “The fact that my middle name is Hussein, I’m sure, does not help in that regard ... Again some of this dates back to the ’60s between the African-American and the Jewish community as a consequence of [Louis] Farrakhan. There was flap about some of Jesse Jackson’s statements during his presidential race, so I inherit all this baggage.”

While repeating an earlier statement that he disagreed with former President Jimmy Carter’s decision to meet with representatives of the Palestinian group Hamas during his current trip to the Middle East, Mr. Obama said, “The fact is, though, that no one’s been a more stalwart ally of Israel.... My support of Israel is as strong as Sen. Clinton or [Sen. John] McCain. Groups like AIPAC [the American Israel Political Action Committee] would confirm that.”

[Link: hotair.com...]

679 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:44:46am
680 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:45:23am

re: #678 Ben Hur

Clearly Generation Ho...

681 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:45:33am
682 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:15am

re: #658 tfc3rid

I'll find out this weekend... Of course, I probably shouldn't wear my David Wright jersey...

You could wear a Flyers hat with the Mets jersey & throw everyone off.

683 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:16am

re: #615 Grammy Cracker

Oh, none taken. I'm not really big on the *I'm OFFENDED* movement, either. LOL


I'm curious.

Was that reference relating something I might have posted before about my pet peeve for society being offended at everything?

Oh man, that just gets me going.

Good for you.

684 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:16am

re: #605 taxfreekiller

Actually, the silver lining is that those falling home prices will make it more affordable for people who are looking for a first home - assuming that they have good credit and 20% down (in other words, good news for those who want to do things the right way). If you're looking to speculate, you're going to be screwed. Indeed, most of the places where prices have dropped the most were places where speculators went wild - Florida, California, and Nevada.

685 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:23am

Market research suggests it's Generation Miley. Better, but not best.

686 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:24am

re: #678 Ben Hur

Only sufficiently pro-Israel?

687 Golem Akbar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:31am

Good morning Lizard Nation! Hope to stay around for a little while today.

Say, there seems to be a debate about Whole Foods Market? Anybody get to experience the pleasure of Trader Joe's, yet?

688 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:46:49am

re: #634 loppyd

Supreme Court Allows Lethal Injection for Exection

were the hippies REALLY trying to suggest that sedating someone before executing them chemically was inhumane ?

689 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:47:11am

re: #671 tfc3rid

I'm in Queens, near Middle Village.

I lived in Rego Park for a couple years back in the 60s. Back then Middle Village seemed like out in the country compared to RP!

690 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:47:13am

re: #682 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I don't really have a rooting interest in hockey so....

691 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:47:54am

re: #687 Golem Akbar

Good morning Lizard Nation! Hope to stay around for a little while today.

Say, there seems to be a debate about Whole Foods Market? Anybody get to experience the pleasure of Trader Joe's, yet?

I love Trader Joe's more for the low prices compared to other supermarkets around me in NYC.

692 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:47:58am

re: #653 paxnhymn

no. I agree. Is it me though, or does the government (be it local, state or federal) spend a lot of resources crawling around looking for dirt on some of these sects? I mean it looks weird> Say this was an individual instead of a group. Someone called in the same anonymous allegation about an individual. That individual would have the right to face his/her accuser. In this case we don't even know who the accuser is, or even if there is one! It just smells bad!

That is absolutely typical of an abuse allegation in every single state in the country. The accuser's identity is protected by law. And removing the children from both of the parents when there has been an allegation of sexual abuse is standard procedure in every state in the country.

This does not smell bad in the least. Invariably when these procedures are not followed kids die or disappear and then there is a public outcry.

693 Thanos  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:04am

Listening to Bush greeting the Pope now -- it was a really good speech, struck out against terror and moral relativism.

694 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:04am

Mind if i ask.

For all of you that use cloth bags. How many times do you or have you washed them?

695 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:06am
696 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:26am

re: #668 jcm

Parent(s) need a whack with a clue bat.

she probably IS a parent. Girls who dress/act like that don't have a great track record for sexual responsibility.

697 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:31am

re: #689 infidelia

I lived in Rego Park for a couple years back in the 60s. Back then Middle Village seemed like out in the country compared to RP!

Nice! Good ol' Rego Park... The place has seen many changes...

698 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:32am

I went looking for an article on police without guns from New Zealand (I'll tell that story later....), and found this little gem:

Castro endores a Clinton-Obama ticket

Commies of a feather stick together...

699 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:48:44am

re: #688 LanceKates

were the hippies REALLY trying to suggest that sedating someone before executing them chemically was inhumane ?

If I had to be executed, and had a choice, I'd pick firing squad (assuming "old age" and "@*#&!ed to death by Victoria's Secret models" were not available options). More of a manly "good death", less a clinical "being put down".

700 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:49:33am

re: #696 LanceKates

she probably IS a parent. Girls who dress/act like that don't have a great track record for sexual responsibility.

I would hope not... But still... Isn't that something you SHOULDN'T allow your kid to go our in public in, much less go to school?

701 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:49:46am

re: #588 laZardo

The solution, find a way to get guns away from the criminals.

Without using guns.

/good luck on that, guys.


* * *
Midnight Basketball worked so well separating crooks from their illegal weapons in Washington DC! (NOT)

(Obama's bragging he can beat President Bush in basketball--hello, Bush isn't running this year)

702 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:49:47am

Gotta run.

703 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:49:54am

re: #679 ploome hineni


don't get me wrong...I think they're all whack! But where's the due process for the mothers stripped of their children? What about a fair hearing? What about facing their accuser? This is a verrrry slippery slope, and if we're not vigilant, you or I may wake up in the middle of the night to some jack-boot clad thug in our bedrooms!

704 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:00am

re: #653 paxnhymn

no. I agree. Is it me though, or does the government (be it local, state or federal) spend a lot of resources crawling around looking for dirt on some of these sects? I mean it looks weird> Say this was an individual instead of a group. Someone called in the same anonymous allegation about an individual. That individual would have the right to face his/her accuser. In this case we don't even know who the accuser is, or even if there is one! It just smells bad!

I agree. I think what's going on is actually kind of outrageous and I think there's a lot of ground for charges to be brought against Texas if it turns out that they never find the "girl" that made the phone call. This is the worst case of guilty until proven innocent that I can think of in the US in recent history. Seizure of property as well. Find the one person accused (who, according to reports, hasn't been in the state of Texas for at least 2 years) and deal with him personally. This looks more like a witch hunt than a legal proceeding.

705 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:16am

About the housing 'meltdown' - anyone can go to [Link: www.zillow.com...] and punch in the address of their home, for free. Take a look at the graph that accompanies the article. A lot of ups and downs, but what is the trend?
Here's my graph.
Ready to bust out again, imo.

706 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:23am

Ledeen on Berlusconi's win

The Communists didn't win a single seat.

Now let's see if those conditions make it easier for Berlusconi to deliver.

707 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:25am

re: #677 BabbaZee


That's two powerful voices there. The tools dancing in the back round missed a great performance with their look at me flailing histrionics

708 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:29am

re: #691 tfc3rid

I love Trader Joe's more for the low prices compared to other supermarkets around me in NYC.

TJ's RULES. Best pot stickers, best tortilla chips, great prices.

709 Kirly  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:30am

re: #653 paxnhymn

you're right pax. something isn't adding up. and, there are reports (via Fox News as well as Michael Savage) that the raid had far more potential to be another Waco than is being reported in the lame stream media. Tanks. Machineguns. Snipers.

And, the guy that was the original target (ie, the alleged molester) hasn't been in Texas in 30 years. Now, you'd think they'd at least have looked into the current location of the alleged perp - gee, they could have at least called his parole agent.

kirls

710 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:50:34am

re: #699 Occasional Reader

If I had to be executed, and had a choice, I'd pick firing squad (assuming "old age" and "@*#&!ed to death by Victoria's Secret models" were not available options). More of a manly "good death", less a clinical "being put down".

DEATH BY SNOO SNOO!

/Futurama

711 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:04am

re: #682 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Thursday night baby.

In the box.

Sweet penalty shot last night.

712 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:21am

re: #688 LanceKates

were the hippies REALLY trying to suggest that sedating someone before executing them chemically was inhumane ?

The psychological pressure of knowing you are going to be executed is cruel and unusual.
/

Or we could do the Lefortovo (KGB) method, prison is brought to an office and encouraged to write a letter of appeal, on the way back to the cell on of the guard shoots in the back of the head.

Much more humane that way, the prisoner has some hope and never knows....
/

713 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:22am

re: #667 JamesTKirk

So I have no slaveholders in my family tree, but Obama does.

Heh. Heh heh. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I wonder what we should do with him when it comes time for reparations. Oh, wait. Obama's blackness is first generation out of Africa, not due to slavery. He gets to PAY reparations. Bet he won't like that!

714 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:30am

re: #708 infidelia

TJ's RULES. Best pot stickers, best tortilla chips, great prices.

Love their chips, pineapple salsa, Indian food... Never tried their pot stickers...

715 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:41am

re: #683 formercorpsman

I'm curious.

Was that reference relating something I might have posted before about my pet peeve for society being offended at everything?

Oh man, that just gets me going.

Good for you.

I didn't see your post, but it's a peeve of mine, too.

I say, 'Put your big girl panties on and deal with it!'

716 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:44am

re: #701 alegrias

Midnight Basketball turned the perps nocturnal.

717 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:51:51am
718 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:07am

re: #710 LanceKates

DEATH BY SNOO SNOO!

/Futurama

I actually saw that ep, despite not being a Futurama watcher.

"I never thought I'd go this way... although I always hoped so!"

719 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:22am
720 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:46am

Okay, REALLY gotta run.

Later.

721 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:47am

re: #716 laZardo

Midnight Basketball turned the perps nocturnal.

Midnight? Nocturnal? RACIST!

722 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:57am

re: #713 galloping granny

I wonder what we should do with him when it comes time for reparations. Oh, wait. Obama's blackness is first generation out of Africa, not due to slavery. He gets to PAY reparations. Bet he won't like that!


Better split the difference, he only gets 20 acres and a goat.

723 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:52:59am

re: #701 alegrias

* * *
Midnight Basketball worked so well separating crooks from their illegal weapons in Washington DC! (NOT)

(Obama's bragging he can beat President Bush in basketball-

If a white person said that, he'd be accused of racial stereotyping.

724 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:53:18am

re: #715 Grammy Cracker

Good, it is not just me.

I have an almost knee jerk reaction anymore for when I hear someone saying they are offended.

Like when Curly in that episode of the 3 stooges would hear a bell and start boxing.

I hate it.

725 Thanos  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:53:21am
726 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:53:37am

re: #714 tfc3rid

Love their chips, pineapple salsa, Indian food... Never tried their pot stickers...

Best price on goat milk. Two lactose intolerant kids, goat milk is a great substitute.

727 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:53:43am

re: #700 tfc3rid

Nah, it's ok... it isn't like she was wearing a Straight Pride shirt! That might offend a homosexual!

728 Kirly  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:53:50am

re: #684 lawhawk

Actually, the silver lining is that those falling home prices will make it more affordable for people who are looking for a first home - assuming that they have good credit and 20% down (in other words, good news for those who want to do things the right way). If you're looking to speculate, you're going to be screwed. Indeed, most of the places where prices have dropped the most were places where speculators went wild - Florida, California, and Nevada.

And Arizona.

The value of my home did fall 20% last year. But, that was after going up 100% in the preceding 2-3 years. So, I'm at 80% increase in value over less than 6 years. You won't find me complaining about that!

729 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:54:27am

re: #710 LanceKates

DEATH BY SNOO SNOO!

/Futurama

"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is bruised & spongy!"

730 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:54:34am

re: #687 Golem Akbar

Good morning Lizard Nation! Hope to stay around for a little while today.

Say, there seems to be a debate about Whole Foods Market? Anybody get to experience the pleasure of Trader Joe's, yet?

No. Trader Joe's (owned by the Aldi people) is just as far away as Whole Foods. Why should I spend 2 gallons of gas to get to/from either?

731 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:54:35am

re: #309 ethanxxx

Good morning Lizards! Say, I got a question for you North Carolina types. I got a family reunion coming up this year in Pigeon Forge, TN. My plan is to fly in to Norfolk, pick up Momma in a rental car and drive over from Suffolk VA. Yahoo maps says that is about an 8 hour drive. Momma says 10 or 11. What do y'all think?

732 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:54:42am

re: #687 Golem Akbar

Good morning Lizard Nation! Hope to stay around for a little while today.

Say, there seems to be a debate about Whole Foods Market? Anybody get to experience the pleasure of Trader Joe's, yet?

Nope. I stay away from both of them in favor of the local food co-op, my own garden and local farms.

733 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:54:58am

re: #595 paxnhymn

you know, I wanna go way out in left field for a moment. AS nutty and strange as this plygamist compound crap is that we recently see in the news is, something is becoming painfully clear: our government doesn't like communes, compounds, etc., etal. Could it be that we have truly headed toward a Big Brother state, and they don't like what they can't control. There's power in numbers. Maybe we need to wake up!

* * *
Did you see those six women from that camp this morning on Fox News/Fox & Friends, claiming they wanted their children back? One had 12 children and wouldn't answer whether they were fathered by one or several.

All that was missing was burqas, because they were brainwashed with stockholm syndrome by their mullah American men

Sorry, compounds & communes, nothing good happening there in my opinion.

734 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:55:14am

re: #721 tfc3rid

I'm Filipino, not white. Does that give me a pass?

735 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:55:16am

re: #712 jcm

The psychological pressure of knowing you are going to be executed is cruel and unusual.
/

Heh, as compared to the psychological trauma from having a loved one killed by a criminal. I love lefty group(un)think.

736 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:55:27am

Shockingly, they have recently opened a Trader Joe's in Forest Hills, Queens, a short drive for me...

737 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:55:57am

re: #707 Endangered in MASS

The tools dancing in the back round missed a great performance with their look at me flailing histrionics


LOL, truth!

738 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:55:59am

re: #718 Occasional Reader

I actually saw that ep, despite not being a Futurama watcher.

"I never thought I'd go this way... although I always hoped so!"

one of my mindless-yet-guilty pleasures. (Futurama, that is.)

739 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:56:14am

re: #734 laZardo

I'm Filipino, not white. Does that give me a pass?

Of course it does!

740 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:56:28am

re: #711 formercorpsman

Thursday night baby.

In the box.

Sweet penalty shot last night.

Awesome game(s) last night. First the penalty shot, and a minute later a 2-run home run. Then the Flyers win, and a minute later, the Phils win.

741 Golem Akbar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:56:43am

re: #708 infidelia

TJ's RULES. Best pot stickers, best tortilla chips, great prices.


Not far from me are a TJ's and WF Market. I love the competition between these two. I'm not a foodie or a snob, but I really enjoy having choices. And for me, both feature a nice selection of Kosher foods. I take it as a win-win.

742 godfrey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:56:59am

By the way, Ledeen raises the interesting question of whether anti-Americanism in Italy really matters. Turnout was 80%, Berlusconi is very pro-US and pro-Bush, and he was elected in a landslide.

Maybe that tells us something about anti-Americanism in Italy.

743 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:57:03am

re: #704 bosforus

I agree. I think what's going on is actually kind of outrageous and I think there's a lot of ground for charges to be brought against Texas if it turns out that they never find the "girl" that made the phone call. This is the worst case of guilty until proven innocent that I can think of in the US in recent history. Seizure of property as well. Find the one person accused (who, according to reports, hasn't been in the state of Texas for at least 2 years) and deal with him personally. This looks more like a witch hunt than a legal proceeding.

If they have found 13-year-old child "brides" in there, then they have proveable cases of statutory rape. That is hardly a "witch hunt". How does a 13-year-old girl cease having the right not to be raped just because she belongs to a cult, whether it's Islam or Fundie Mormons?

744 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:57:04am

re: #728 Kirly

WAMU took a big hit in the subprime mess. Last night was a stock holders meeting. News had this lady on....

"I've lost my life savings, it's all gone."

Huh? sez I. You put ALL YOUR MONEY IN ONE STOCK? Don't you pay attention to ANYTHING?

Now she wants you and I to bail her out.

745 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:57:21am

Got a Trader Joe's 2 blocks from my home, stop in there quite often. Cheaper than going to the conventional grocery store, no question.

746 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:57:42am

re: #733 alegrias

* * *


Sorry, compounds & communes, nothing good happening there in my opinion.

One need look no further than the Kennedy compund for proof of that!

747 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:57:49am

re: #719 ploome hineni


I feel ya. But it never hurts ( and it's not being a conspiracy theory nutjob) to say to a government, "back off Jack! That's too far!"


keeps 'em honest (as honest as possible) and let's em know we're watching.

He'res what's strange. It seems that comments on the subject thus far are split along gender lines; you ladies putting a priority on child welfare, and us guys concerned about abuse of power....


interesting....

748 Q-Burn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:58:04am

re: #705 ec marm

About the housing 'meltdown' - anyone can go to [Link: www.zillow.com...] and punch in the address of their home, for free. Take a look at the graph that accompanies the article. A lot of ups and downs, but what is the trend?
Here's my graph.
Ready to bust out again, imo.

Homes are still appreciating in my area

In a sign of the region's relative economic health, homeowners in Travis, Hays and Williamson counties can expect to see increases in their 2008 property appraisals when they begin receiving notices in the mail soon, appraisers say.

The Travis Central Appraisal District is finalizing its proposed values for all real property in the county, including residential, office and retail properties. Preliminary values will be firmed up Friday, chief appraiser Patrick Brown said Tuesday.

Countywide, the average home value is up 11.5 percent, to $285,511 compared with $256,058 in 2007, Brown said. In the City of Austin, the average home value is $266,807, up 12.55 percent from $237,055 in 2007, Brown said.

We never got the crazy run-up in prices, so we are avoiding the crash... for now.

749 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:58:18am

re: #742 godfrey

By the way, Ledeen raises the interesting question of whether anti-Americanism in Italy really matters. Turnout was 80%, Berlusconi is very pro-US and pro-Bush, and he was elected in a landslide.

Maybe that tells us something about anti-Americanism in Italy.

I have this hidden hope that, despite the vocal disdain for the United States (and the rampant jealousy) that most of the world DOES recognize that we're the top dog and that if anyone is going to fight terrorism, the force will have to be led by the United States, not the United Nations.

750 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:58:22am
751 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:58:23am

re: #703 paxnhymn

don't get me wrong...I think they're all whack! But where's the due process for the mothers stripped of their children? What about a fair hearing? What about facing their accuser? This is a verrrry slippery slope, and if we're not vigilant, you or I may wake up in the middle of the night to some jack-boot clad thug in our bedrooms!

There is NO DUE PROCESS for child abuse, as thousands of parents in every single state in this country can attest. When it comes to allegations of child abuse, the loons are correct when they call it a police state. "Social Services" - whatever they call it in your state - can, does and will come into your home in the middle of the night without a warrant and remove your children without ever once telling you exactly what the allegations against you are or who made them. It is then up to you to prove yourself innocent of the charges.

752 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:59:25am
753 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:59:32am

re: #731 rawmuse

Good morning Lizards! Say, I got a question for you North Carolina types. I got a family reunion coming up this year in Pigeon Forge, TN. My plan is to fly in to Norfolk, pick up Momma in a rental car and drive over from Suffolk VA. Yahoo maps says that is about an 8 hour drive. Momma says 10 or 11. What do y'all think?

Split the difference. Nine hours.

754 stanleymberg  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:59:50am

Sorry if this was already posted...

Ahmadinejad, 9/11 Truther
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

755 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:59:54am

re: #714 tfc3rid

Love their chips, pineapple salsa, Indian food... Never tried their pot stickers...

Excellent, very light. You want the chicken or pork gyoza potstickers.

756 Golem Akbar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:00:56am

re: #732 galloping granny

Nope. I stay away from both of them in favor of the local food co-op, my own garden and local farms.


I like having choices. Food co-ops are great, but here in L.A. they haven't worked. The closest thing we have are several pretty decent weekend farmer's markets, scattered about town.

Of course, Costco has great produce, too. And the largest durn bottles of vodka I've ever seen.

757 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:01:58am
758 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:02:03am

Iraqi Author 'Aref 'Alwan: The Jews Have an Historic Right to Palestine

In an article posted December 7, 2007, on the leftist website [Link: www.ahewar.org,...] [1] 'Aref 'Alwan, an Iraqi author and playwright who resides in London and is the author of 12 novels, [2] states that the Jews have an historic right to Palestine because their presence there preceded the Arab conquest and has continued to this day.

In the article, titled "Do the Jews Have Any Less Right to Palestine than the Arabs?" 'Alwan called on the Arab world to acknowledge the Jews' right to Palestine, because justice demanded it and also because doing so would end the violence and the killing of Arabs, as well as intra-Arab strife. He added that such a move would also open up new avenues for the Arab world that would be more consistent with the values and needs of modern society.

'Alwan writes that the Arab League is to blame for the refusal to recognize the 1947 U.N. partition plan, for starting a war to prevent its implementation, and for the results of that war, which the Arabs call the Nakba (disaster). He points an accusing finger at the Arab regimes, the Arab League, and the educated circles in the Arab world, saying that they had all used the term "nakba" to direct popular consciousness toward a cultural tradition that neither accepts the other side nor recognizes its rights - thereby promoting bigotry, violence and extremism. He also claims that there have been attempts to rewrite Palestinian history, in order to deny any connection between it and the Jewish people.

FATWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

HISTORICAL FACTS ARE HARAM!

759 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:02:13am

re: #750 ploome hineni

[expletive deleted]

/at least that means I can wear a "Typical White Guy" shirt if I ever end up in Berkeley...

760 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:02:21am

re: #657 godfrey

Teheran's Chief of Police Caught in Bed with Six Nude Hookers

Before he was arrested, he was in charge of 'moralizing the city.'

Oh, the humanity.

Uncovered meat? Did they stone the hookers for not wearing burkhas?

761 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:02:37am

re: #740 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Damn, I missed that.

Listening to P&S this morning on the way in, and it just dawned on me how many Philly teams might be looking at some great opportunities, or some big let-downs.

762 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:02:55am
763 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:03:08am

re: #701 alegrias

(Obama's bragging he can beat President Bush in basketball--hello, Bush isn't running this year)

Imagine the furor if Bush had said, "Well, I'll bet Obama could beat me in basketball."

764 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:03:11am

re: #743 infidelia

If they have found 13-year-old child "brides" in there, then they have proveable cases of statutory rape. That is hardly a "witch hunt". How does a 13-year-old girl cease having the right not to be raped just because she belongs to a cult, whether it's Islam or Fundie Mormons?

But they wouldn't have gotten in there if they hadn't violated their rights in the first place. I'm not defending anything they find going on in the compound but to have a hunch that something weird's going on and then raid their compound with guns and separate their families is basically a witch hunt. With that mentality mexican neighborhoods could be raided and the citizens could be locked up as the authorities go through each one looking for an illegal. Not that I support illegal immigration, but it's the same principle. That's why people have rights in the first place, to prevent authorities from coming in and basically ignoring any law of procedure and deciding people are a menace without any prior evidence other than a random phone call.

765 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:03:19am

re: #758 Ben Hur

That should be a story, but I'm confused as to if "report" a comment means reporting abusive ones.

766 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:03:27am

re: #756 Golem Akbar

I like having choices. Food co-ops are great, but here in L.A. they haven't worked. The closest thing we have are several pretty decent weekend farmer's markets, scattered about town.

Of course, Costco has great produce, too. And the largest durn bottles of vodka I've ever seen.

I don't think we have a Costco in several hundred miles, LOL. When I lived out west I tended toward the local farmer's markets too. Or going straight to the farm. Or the small neighborhood "health food" store.

767 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:04:17am

Iraqi, US troops press forward against the Mahdi Army in Baghdad and Basrah - Bill Roggio

Iraqi and Coalition forces are pressing the fight against the Mahdi Army in northeastern Baghdad and the southern port city of Basrah. Iraqi troops have cleared two Mahdi Army strongholds in Basrah and reportedly have surrounded three others as they prepare to press the operation. In Baghdad, the Iraqi Army and US forces continue to clash with the Mahdi Army while forces have moved into southwestern Sadr City

Al-Sadr Tightens the Screws - Time

Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr threw down yet another challenge to the Iraqi government,...

The demand, which came before another burst of Sunni insurgent violence north and west of Baghdad, is unlikely to be heeded by Maliki. Still, it underscored the political weight of Sadr's voice. Sadr's Mahdi Army has effectively stopped an advance by U.S. and Iraqi forces into its strongholds in Baghdad and Basra after weeks of fighting.

Despite losing on the battlefield, Sadr continues to make virtual warfare victories in the media.

768 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:04:24am

re: #759 laZardo

[expletive deleted]

/at least that means I can wear a "Typical White Guy" shirt if I ever end up in Berkeley...

You should wear one now anyway
ohdeeyerony

769 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:05:05am

re: #758 Ben Hur

Wow.

770 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:05:12am

re: #739 tfc3rid


re: #734 laZardo
I'm Filipino, not white. Does that give me a pass?

Of course it does!


No, ideology trumps race.

771 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:05:24am

re: #765 laZardo

That should be a story, but I'm confused as to if "report" a comment means reporting abusive ones.

Nope send it on good or interesting things too
I had checked about that myself with CJ

772 JWM  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:05:57am

re: #657 godfrey

Teheran's Chief of Police Caught in Bed with Six Nude Hookers


Before he was arrested, he was in charge of 'moralizing the city.'

Oh, the humanity.


Six? Talk about your eyes being bigger than your stomach. Or biting off more than you can chew.
Or is that a case of, having what you don't need is better than needing what you don't have?
What a joke mine.

JWM

773 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:10am

re: #751 galloping granny

Not arguing with you. Where's the balance?

I wrestle with this one too. Our 3 year old came to us at 4 months. Broken femur, 4 broken ribs, lacerated liver and internal bleeding, detached retina, ruptured ear drum.

In that case the abuse is clear cut, a 4 month old doesn't get those kind of injuries rolling off the changing table.

How do we balance the protection of the children vs. rights of the parents.

I agree that due process is required, but there also needs to be some adjustments to level of proof. Also what should be the status and location of the children during the process, while an accusation stands, but no conviction.

774 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:13am
"Although Palestinian senior officials, leaders, educated circles, and public figures, whose patriotism is beyond doubt, have come to terms with the existence of the State of Israel, the aforementioned 80% of Arabs... do not accept this view, and consider it religious apostasy. Leaders of the [Arab] states in the region, and party leaders, inflame sentiment, entrancing them with the drumbeat of extremism.

"With the strident chorus of its secretaries, the Arab League ensures that every car crash in Gaza or the West Bank is interpreted as an Israeli conspiracy against the Arab future. This is because the Arab League... was established as a pan-Arab entity whose main function was to write reports and studies rife with distortions of fact so as to quell the conscience of any Arab who dared think independently and expunge [the concept of] the Nakba from his consciousness. [It has done] this instead of devising creative strategies for cultural and economic development, so as to improve the deteriorating standard of living in the Arab societies."

775 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:24am

re: #747 paxnhymn

I feel ya. But it never hurts ( and it's not being a conspiracy theory nutjob) to say to a government, "back off Jack! That's too far!"


keeps 'em honest (as honest as possible) and let's em know we're watching.

He'res what's strange. It seems that comments on the subject thus far are split along gender lines; you ladies putting a priority on child welfare, and us guys concerned about abuse of power....

Both are a concern. At least they handled this better than Waco. It's the same old story of nobody wanting the hot potato that is a religion-based organization, no matter what they are up to. But the children in all these cults are American citizens who are owed the protection of their government, and in too many cases they are either not getting it or don't receive it until so much damage is done that they are screwed either way.

interesting....

776 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:27am

re: #762 ploome hineni

it is holding women as sex slaves, hostages

'married' from age 14 or 16? these women are terrified, have no options

used and then discarded, when men can have numerous wives

these women are controlled, programmed and helpless

it is sexual slavery.........disgusting to be forced to lie still while being raped in the name of their religion, and then being tied to the system by 6-8 children


I think with all of our disagreements, you and I, we can come together on the evilness of that group.

I have noticed a common thread among many cults. Women tend to be required to be as modest as possible and men are to be perverts.... especially those in charge.

777 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:30am

re: #764 bosforus

Please see my reply to you above. This is not a witch hunt, nor is it a violation of rights that courts have not upheld. This is standard procedure for allegations of abuse - physical or sexual- in every single state in the country. It is the law.

778 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:06:31am

re: #717 BabbaZee

Is that with Big Brother and the Holding Co. or that Tom Jone's house band?

779 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:07:32am

re: #706 godfrey

Ledeen on Berlusconi's win

The Communists didn't win a single seat.

Now let's see if those conditions make it easier for Berlusconi to deliver.

* * *
Hurray for the good, pro-American Berlusconi.

Spain's cowardly Zapatero couldn't get a majority vote last week in his congress to ratify his presidency--it required a second vote, when only Socialists voted for him, so he barely squeaked in.

780 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:08:11am

re: #672 laZardo

/this year's school art folio theme - the "seven deadly sins."

So mod you are
lol

781 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:08:45am

re: #778 Endangered in MASS

Don;t know they are off stage it is certainly NOT Big brother that I can tell by ear
it has to be either Tom's house band or Kozmic Blues

782 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:08:48am
"When the Arabs agreed to U.N. arbitration... to resolve the Palestinian problem, it transpired that their axioms clearly contradicted reliable historical documents [that] this new international organization [had in its possession]. As a result, they wasted decades stubbornly defending the validity of their documents, which do not correspond to the officially accepted version of the region's history - which is based on concrete and solid evidence [such as] archaeological findings in the land of Palestine, the holy books of the three monotheistic religions, accounts by Roman, Greek, and Jewish historians... and modern historical research..."

I suddenly understand Chris Mathews.

783 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:08:55am
784 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:09:23am

re: #777 galloping granny

Please see my reply to you above. This is not a witch hunt, nor is it a violation of rights that courts have not upheld. This is standard procedure for allegations of abuse - physical or sexual- in every single state in the country. It is the law.

Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. But that's not what's happening. One person was accused yet everyone's being punished.

785 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:10:10am

re: #762 ploome hineni

Maybe they become suicide bombers (using reverse taqqiya?) as a last-ditch attempt to escape these hardships?

786 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:10:38am

re: #762 ploome hineni

I agree, but I still don't think publically it was handled correctly.
And granny is correct. In any CPS in any state, it's "guilty until proven innocent", and while I understand quaranteening children to get to the truth, these agencies need to stop the police state tactics.

787 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:09am
788 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:11am
"The Arabs take great pride in their tolerance of and benign treatment of the Jews and Christians who lived under the Muslim rule since the Muslim conquests. This account is part of the distortions underpinning the edifice of the Arabs' religious and national culture. [Arab] writers and historians keep eulogizing this epoch... while the truth is the opposite of what they claim. [Indeed,] the Pact of 'Omar [compelled] the Jews and the Christians to choose between either abandoning their religion and embracing Islam, or paying the [poll] tax in return for being permitted to reside... and receive protection of life and property in their homeland. [The Pact of 'Omar] allowed them to practice their religion, build new houses of worship, and repair the old ones [only] with the permission of a Muslim ruler, and subject to numerous conditions.

I....I....I.......

789 Golem Akbar  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:16am

re: #758 Ben Hur
Dead man walking.

790 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:30am

re: #752 ploome hineni

Yes, but the bitter Italian voters, clinging to their guns and Jesus, rejected the benevolent wisdom of the socialists & communists and turned to the tired old formulas of yesterday.

791 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:45am

re: #783 ploome hineni

you say


what rights were violated? the authorities entered with a search warrent, I an sure

I hadn't heard anything about a search warrant until you mentioned it. That does change things.

792 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:45am

re: #773 jcm

Not arguing with you. Where's the balance?

I wrestle with this one too. Our 3 year old came to us at 4 months. Broken femur, 4 broken ribs, lacerated liver and internal bleeding, detached retina, ruptured ear drum.

In that case the abuse is clear cut, a 4 month old doesn't get those kind of injuries rolling off the changing table.

How do we balance the protection of the children vs. rights of the parents.

I agree that due process is required, but there also needs to be some adjustments to level of proof. Also what should be the status and location of the children during the process, while an accusation stands, but no conviction.

I agree with you that the situation as it stands is certainly far from "fair" to anyone. And I know of many, many cases of reported abuse that were so much hogwash - and probably an equal number that were reported and then not investigated with tragic consequences. The overwhelming philosophy or the rather messy system, though, is that the right of the child to protection outweighs any other rights the parents might have.

When it comes to sexual abuse of minors, in every single case that I have ever heard of anywhere the child(ren) is initially removed from the care and custody of both parents. In most circumstances & states, the only way the mother has regained care and custody is to divorce the father.

793 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:49am
794 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:11:49am

re: #752 ploome hineni

wasn't Berlusconi defeated a few years ago?

* * *
Socialists kicked him out two years ago.

It's time to BUY ITALIANO again, lizards! Viva good italians.

795 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:12:50am
"The Arabs claim that the 'Wailing Wall' has been their property since the Prophet Muhammad tied his horse Al-Buraq to one of its supports when Allah transported him by night from the Holy Mosque in Mecca to pray at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem... Although this night-journey story seems dubious, Arab historiography after the advent of Islam contains such oddities as giving a horse the prerogative of making a wall weighing more than 2,000 tons into Muslim property. This is only one of thousands of examples of tales concocted by zealots, with which they swept away the Arab imagination

I'm losing it......

796 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:12:56am
797 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:12:58am

re: #784 bosforus

Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. But that's not what's happening. One person was accused yet everyone's being punished.

The mothers are enabling such illegal behavior under the guise of religious belief.

Yet religious belief does not trump law.

It is illegal for minors to be wed to and have sex with adults. Yet that is what happened here. Given that there were hundreds of kids, taken from families that were raising them to believe that a minor hitched to and diddling an adult is preferred, it is no suprise that it is taking a while to sort everything out.

I believe that the only REAL reason why this is being compared to Waco is that it is happening in Texas, it is a cult and the place is referred to as a 'compound.'

If one wants to compare it to Waco, note that there were no rampant firefights nor mass deaths.

While people have the right to have their religion, they do not have a right to violate law for the sake of religion.

798 incanus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:12:59am

re: #263 rightside

OMG, I'll fire up photoshop later, and make one!

I suggest a goatse "O", in the phrase "BOHICA"; underneath "Get Ready For Change!"

799 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:13:08am

re: #783 ploome hineni

you say


what rights were violated? the authorities entered with a search warrent, I an sure

But it does seem odd that a search warrant can be given based on an anonymous phone call. Goes back to the "we have a hunch something weird's going on and now we have this anonymous phone call to prove it" which still smells like a witch hunt with nothing to back it up.

800 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:13:30am

re: #776 LanceKates

I think with all of our disagreements, you and I, we can come together on the evilness of that group.

I have noticed a common thread among many cults. Women tend to be required to be as modest as possible and men are to be perverts.... especially those in charge.

LanceKates, if you have not yet read Under The Banner of Heaven I urge you to do so. It is specifically about the history of this specific cult. You will be flabbergasted at the parallels and intersections between these folks and another, somewhat larger cult we know of.

801 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:13:56am

re: #779 alegrias

I keep thinking Berlusconi had a little help...

802 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:14:02am

re: #791 bosforus

I hadn't heard anything about a search warrant until you mentioned it. That does change things.

They had previously received a call from someone saying that they were 16 and had been forced to have sex with an old man.

That'd get any judge to issue a warrant.

803 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:14:24am

re: #799 bosforus

probable cause.

That's all that is needed.

804 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:14:39am

re: #793 ploome hineni

no one has been punished

this is an ongoing investigatin

being investigated may not be pleasant

it is not punishment

helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yeah, I regretted using the word 'punishment' as soon I posted it because I knew it would be taken that way.

805 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:14:46am
806 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:15:00am

re: #800 galloping granny

LanceKates, if you have not yet read Under The Banner of Heaven I urge you to do so. It is specifically about the history of this specific cult. You will be flabbergasted at the parallels and intersections between these folks and another, somewhat larger cult we know of.

I'm at a point where I"m needing HOPE in humanity. I already view it as corrupted and ugly enough as it is.

*grin*

807 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:15:04am

re: #787 BabbaZee

Exactly. That's where the title came from. (:

/see the bottom right

808 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:15:59am

re: #799 bosforus

Also, IIRC, law enforcement had a plant in there for at 4 years by this time.

809 laZardo  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:16:08am

re: #800 galloping granny

They won't persecute that "somewhat larger" cult though, it's just not good for diversity and tolerance.

810 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:16:17am
811 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:16:24am

re: #805 ploome hineni

no it does not

go speak to the judge

no hunch...

stop tring to spin YOUR agenda into this story

you are fabricating 'facts' not there

Yeah, I'm a little upset about it but to say I have an agenda is laughable. I haven't refuted any facts that anyone hear has presented to me so why don't you get off your horse and realize that I'm actually listening and engaging in the conversation.

812 alegrias  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:17:11am

re: #790 Kenneth

Yes, but the bitter Italian voters, clinging to their guns and Jesus, rejected the benevolent wisdom of the socialists & communists and turned to the tired old formulas of yesterday.

* * *
Now if only Italians would have molto bambini, preferably like Fabrizio Quatrocchi, may he rest in peace, after what jihadists did to that wonderful baker in Iraq...

813 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:17:32am

re: #805 ploome hineni

I kept talking about this issue here because I know lizards to be well informed and able to talk reasonably to people who are mistaken (as I have been in this case) so get over it.

814 rightside  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:18:27am

re: #798 incanus

I suggest a goatse "O", in the phrase "BOHICA"; underneath "Get Ready For Change!"


Roger that!

815 Endangered in MASS  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:18:46am

re: #781 BabbaZee


Janice was smarter enough to ditch Big Brother.

816 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:18:56am

re: #793 ploome hineni


"it is not punishment"

maybe to the children it may seem that way. What about them Ploome? Do they have any rights or say, or is it all Big Brother vs. The Perverts? I'm on your side with this, but are the children being further traumatized? Government effs up everything they get their hands on....

817 infidelia  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:20:07am

Promised myself to get something done around the house before heading to the beach so I'm outta here. Have a good one.

818 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:20:08am

re: #797 LanceKates


"It is illegal for minors to be wed to and have sex with adults."

(ahem.) West Virginia....

819 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:20:12am

re: #792 galloping granny

We had the Wenatchee Witch Hunt, destroyed a bunch of people for no cause.

It's a damn mess. I don't have seen a solution yet that really solves the problem.

I know this. A majority of the abuse of children I am aware of, is by boyfriends of the mother who are not the father.

I would start by holding men responsible for what they've being doing with their private parts.

820 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:20:14am
821 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:20:29am

re: #784 bosforus

Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. But that's not what's happening. One person was accused yet everyone's being punished.

Read Under the Banner of Heaven and you will have a better understanding of why they took all of the children.

BTW, if this was a family of 5 children and allegations of abuse of just one were made against one parent, they would take all five children from both parents.

822 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:21:17am
823 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:21:56am

re: #822 ploome hineni

find a brain

right back atcha

824 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:22:14am

re: #818 paxnhymn

"It is illegal for minors to be wed to and have sex with adults."

(ahem.) West Virginia....

some of these kids are 12 and 13. Some of these cults believe that once she has a period, it is time to get her hitched to some 50 year old pervert.

825 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:22:42am

Come to think of it.....

old men diddling young girls who are forced to be modest in public.....

that sounds like a certain 'religion of peace'

826 cygnus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:23:12am

re: #7 BlueCanuck

Good morning to all the early risers. Welcome to the fresh thread.

/freshly cleaned and minty fresh.

I'm waaaay late and it's not a fresh thread anymore. Boo Hoo!
Just read the weather report for the weekend. They're expecting rain and SNOW here in Western WA! GWMA (Global Warming My A**)!

827 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:23:23am

re: #816 paxnhymn

"it is not punishment"

maybe to the children it may seem that way. What about them Ploome? Do they have any rights or say, or is it all Big Brother vs. The Perverts? I'm on your side with this, but are the children being further traumatized? Government effs up everything they get their hands on....

As I pointed out above, the overwhelming consideration in cases like this is the SAFETY of the children and the prevention of further physical or sexual abuse. That consideration overrides any and all rights of the parents and is paramount to any other rights the children might have. Seen as a matter of protecting their lives.

828 opnion  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:23:38am

Now that Obama is wearing a flag lapel pin, I wonder if his supporters will be put off or just think that he is clever.

829 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:24:09am

re: #824 LanceKates

take these 50 year old predators out onto the high desert, strap them down on an ant-hill, and let nature takes its course.

Any freak caught committing crimes against nature, should have the pay the fine to nature.

nuff said.

830 incanus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:24:37am

re: #400 LanceKates

For English, Press 1.

*grumbles*

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831 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:24:39am

re: #821 galloping granny

Read Under the Banner of Heaven and you will have a better understanding of why they took all of the children.

BTW, if this was a family of 5 children and allegations of abuse of just one were made against one parent, they would take all five children from both parents.

Right, and I can understand that, but to apply that every family in the compound seems a little much.

832 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:25:09am

re: #828 opnion

obama-nator wearing a flag pin, eh? which flag?

833 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:25:19am

re: #830 incanus

heh. no comment.

834 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:25:42am

re: #828 opnion

Now that Obama is wearing a flag lapel pin, I wonder if his supporters will be put off or just think that he is clever.

It's all part of his new plan to move to the Center for the general election.

835 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:28:21am

re: #834 tfc3rid

It's all part of his new plan to move to the Center for the general election.

Obama is showing he can reach out to the bitter, gun-totin' Bible thumpin', arugala deprived yokels. Audacious!

836 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:29:11am

re: #835 Kenneth

Obama is showing he can reach out to the bitter, gun-totin' Bible thumpin', arugala deprived yokels. Audacious!

He can reach out, he's still not getting my Bible, or my gun.

837 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:31:04am

re: #836 jcm

He can reach out, he's still not getting my Bible, or my gun.

Come on... Barack is a good Christian man...

838 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:31:12am

re: #831 bosforus

Right, and I can understand that, but to apply that every family in the compound seems a little much.

The families in the compound weren't there on a whim. It was a religious cult.

If the parents are raising their children to believe that a 12 year old diddling a 50 year old is holy, then they are engaging in brainwashing and mental abuse of their children.

While I am not necessarily a fan of the Government randomly coming in and taking kids away from a religious group, I do not believe there is anything 'random' about this. You have to protect the children from the idea that a 12 year old girl diddling a 50 year old guy is preferred and holy.

The leaders on-site at the time ought to be charged with endangering children and facilitating sexual abuse of children. Each adult 'married' to a child ought to be charged with sexual abuse and stat rape. Each parent ought to be charged with child endangerment and enabling sexual abuse and stat rape.

839 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:31:37am

re: #831 bosforus

Right, and I can understand that, but to apply that every family in the compound seems a little much.

Those families all live together. Many - probably most - of those children have absolutely NO idea who their real mother is. Each one of the men has at least several wives and the children are raised collectively.

And there is the little problem of abused children lying to protect their abusers - a very well recognized phenomenon quite similar to Stockholm Syndrome.

840 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:31:41am

re: #834 tfc3rid

It's all part of his new plan to move to the Center for the general election.

He could LEAP to the center and still be a flaming socialist.

841 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:32:30am

re: #837 tfc3rid

Come on... Barack is a good Christian man...

I've seen no evidence that he is good. His church surely isn't Christian.

Thanks to the pictures of him running around in bikini underwear at a beach, we DO have to conclude that he is a man (or, at least, male)

842 cygnus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:33:20am

re: #841 LanceKates

Ewwwww! Brain bleach, stat!

843 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:33:44am

re: #842 cygnus

Ewwwww! Brain bleach, stat!

Nurse? Fetch the patient a Bud.

844 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:33:52am

re: #837 tfc3rid

Come on... Barack is a good Christian man...

ROFLMAO!

845 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:34:18am

re: #815 Endangered in MASS

Janice was smarter enough to ditch Big Brother.

even on smack, lol
But they did have most undercrunch and a voo in the doo

846 cygnus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:34:34am

re: #843 LanceKates

Nurse? Fetch the patient a Bud.

Thanks, Nurse, but I'd prefer a Shiraz.

847 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:35:57am

re: #841 LanceKates

I've seen no evidence that he is good. His church surely isn't Christian.

Thanks to the pictures of him running around in bikini underwear at a beach, we DO have to conclude that he is a man (or, at least, male)

Maybe.......

848 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:36:47am
849 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:38:24am

thanks ploome, grannny, bosforus, Lance, et al..

the discourse on the compound has been eye opening...new things to ponder...

850 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:38:58am

re: #848 BabbaZee

I blow my nose in his direction.

Motown!

851 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:39:07am

re: #838 LanceKates

re: #839 galloping granny

Yeah, those are all 100% valid and true points. If CPS only needs an anonymous phone call from a person who hasn't been found accusing a person who hasn't been in the state for, to my knowledge, two years, I guess that's where my issue lies. But, as someone here mentioned, they've been wiretapping the place for a while, and since I'm not on the forefront of all of the evidence available then it's a little easier to swallow.

852 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:40:43am

re: #851 bosforus

re: #839 galloping granny

Yeah, those are all 100% valid and true points. If CPS only needs an anonymous phone call from a person who hasn't been found accusing a person who hasn't been in the state for, to my knowledge, two years, I guess that's where my issue lies. But, as someone here mentioned, they've been wiretapping the place for a while, and since I'm not on the forefront of all of the evidence available then it's a little easier to swallow.

Even if they hadn't been doing the wiretapping, if memory serves, the place is connected to a guy that they already got for doing things like marrying kids to 50 year old men.

that makes any 'anonymous phone call' MUCH more credible.

853 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:41:29am

re: #849 paxnhymn

thanks ploome, grannny, bosforus, Lance, et al..

the discourse on the compound has been eye opening...new things to ponder...

In my worldly opinion, those people are DEFINATELY people who, upon death, will utter the words:

"Holy Crap! I was wrong!"

854 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:41:54am

re: #849 paxnhymn

thanks ploome, grannny, bosforus, Lance, et al..

the discourse on the compound has been eye opening...new things to ponder...

Indeed. It'll be interesting what comes of all of this once the whole story is revealed and reported on.

855 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:42:40am

OT and Random post:

IF you are a member of the Freemasons, or any of their accessory groups, could you drop me an email? This post has my email address available if you click on my name.

I've some specific questions.

856 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:43:31am

re: #854 bosforus

Indeed. It'll be interesting what comes of all of this once the whole story is revealed and reported on.

my only fear is that, thanks to cults like this, the way will be paved for an over-reaching federal government to consider removing kids for teaching things like creation or moral stances that homosexuality is deviant behavior.

857 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:43:59am

re: #855 LanceKates

OT and Random post:

IF you are a member of the Freemasons, or any of their accessory groups, could you drop me an email? This post has my email address available if you click on my name.

I've some specific questions.

LOL. Thanks for the discussion everyone, yes, even ploome. Definitely some more things to be considered on my part. Good luck with the Masons, Lance.

858 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:45:44am

re: #857 bosforus

LOL. Thanks for the discussion everyone, yes, even ploome. Definitely some more things to be considered on my part. Good luck with the Masons, Lance.

Oh, I'm not one. If I were, I wouldn't need to ask my questions on a public internet board. heh.

859 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:47:58am

re: #858 LanceKates

Oh, I'm not one. If I were, I wouldn't need to ask my questions on a public internet board. heh.

Oh, I meant good luck on getting in contact with one. :)

860 bosforus  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:48:25am

I'm off to a new thread. I think this one's drying up on my end.

861 galloping granny  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:49:20am

re: #856 LanceKates

my only fear is that, thanks to cults like this, the way will be paved for an over-reaching federal government to consider removing kids for teaching things like creation or moral stances that homosexuality is deviant behavior.

I think the difference there LanceKates is that we have long had laws prohibiting polygamy on the books (Utah & the Mormons were required to outlaw polygamy as a condition of statehood. Everyone else had long since done so) and we also have, in every state, laws prohibiting sexual intercourse with a minor and laws preventing "marriage" to a minor. Not to mention that "marriage" to someone while already married is also specifically a crime called bigamy.

862 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 8:50:24am