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Dem Debate Webcast

Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:56:22 pm PDT

The Dems’ debate is being webcast live at ABC 6 in Philly: 6abc.com: Debate Analyzer and Pennsylvania’s Undecided Voters’ Demographics 4/16/08.

ABC News is going old school and putting the circus on a three hour time delay for the west coast.

UPDATE at 4/16/08 5:18:11 pm:

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UPDATE at 4/16/08 6:28:41 pm:

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1 Macker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:56:53pm

Please pass the popcorn please!

2 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:57:05pm

Popcorn, anyone?

3 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:57:40pm
4 Macker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:57:43pm

Gimme!

5 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:58:33pm

Let the change begin!

6 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:58:41pm

Okay, that toyota ad is creepy.

7 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:58:43pm
"So I think (Obama) definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I can't wait to see what he stands for." -- Susan Sarandon
8 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:15pm

Let's Get Readdddy to Rummmmmmble!

9 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:29pm

Spoiler for the left coasters:

They pander a lot, want to take your money and guns, and don't like each other.

10 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:29pm

Hillzebub needs to whip it out and smack Osama around with it. Crunch time.

11 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:31pm
12 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:33pm

Hope this thing works - it was the only live feed I could find.

13 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:46pm

I have better things to do, like clean up dog poop. Not that I'd be doing that in the dark, but what comes out of Hildemort and Obamanation make dog poop seem nice.

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:56pm
15 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 4:59:59pm

Post live feeds if you got 'em.

16 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:00:51pm

re: #12 Charles

Hope this thing works - it was the only live feed I could find.

So you're saying that no one really cares enough to broadcast the 4,827th debate of the season?

17 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:01:28pm

From Philly.

18 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:21pm
"(Obama's) big themes are Change Hope and Unity...I suspect that after he's elected, we'll hear much less about Change and Unity and a lot more about Hope. As in, "I Hope this doesn't end in a huge disaster. I Hope he doesn't wreck the economy. I Hope he's not too overwhelmed by the complexity and horror of the world. I Hope I survive this administration." -- A reader at The Corner
19 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:37pm

Goin' to the candidates debate, now.

20 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:38pm

Correct URL for live feed:

[Link: a.abclocal.go.com...]

21 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:02:57pm

B. Hussein and H. Rodham trade straight shots till ones under the table?

22 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:05pm

Any way you look at it you lose.

23 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:11pm

Searched EVERYWHERE...no live feed.

24 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:12pm

re: #19 jamgarr

Every way you look at it, you lose.

25 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:30pm

Playing for me - Safari, with Flip4Mac and Windows Media Player.

26 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:43pm

Poor quality.

27 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:49pm

re: #24 Palandine

Every way you look at it, you lose.

Great minds!

28 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:57pm

Audio's OK.

29 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:03:58pm

"Don't applause during the debate!"
Oh'bama gets opening statement. Begins by kissing up to Pa folks, then talks about their frustration.

30 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:04pm

re: #21 jcm

B. Hussein and H. Rodham trade straight shots till ones under the table?

Drink!

31 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:25pm

Frustration = Bittnerness

32 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:28pm

Change!

Drink!

33 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:37pm

Typical.
Hope.
Change

/I think I got Obama Bingo on the first statement.

34 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:39pm

No flag pin, I hear...

35 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:44pm

Oh, woe is us. Can't get gas $ to find a job

36 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:04:55pm

here in chicago, the debate is live on the local abc channel.

37 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:05pm

FRUSTRATED! BITTER!
Arrr!

38 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:08pm
39 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:09pm

My speakers still no worky, is there a stenographer in the house?

40 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:23pm

she sounds worse on the audio. Looks bad too. :P

41 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:27pm

Had to switch to IE...works now.

42 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:39pm
43 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:48pm

Hillary:
*snore*
Promise of America alive and well...Health care... Edumacation...challenges...*snore* look at records...plugs web site...

44 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:54pm

Link doesn't work for me either.. maybe I'll turn on the TV,.

45 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:05:55pm

re: #37 Charles

FRUSTRATED! BITTER!
Arrr!

Clingy Bibles with guns in 'em!

46 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:06:12pm

Here's is a live feed, click the very top of the page.

47 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:06:36pm

the hell? they do opening statements and then break to commercial?

48 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:06:52pm

I blame Jon Karry for starting the mentioning your website in a debate thing.

49 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:06:53pm

These people don't look any better in HD.

/if the signal is even in HD

50 lookingup  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:06:59pm

Working very good for me. Video very crisp. I won't be able to take much of it tho.

51 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:19pm

I call for a duel....
She which one really has shot before.

52 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:24pm

re: #47 chicagodudewhotrades

the hell? they do opening statements and then break to commercial?

Barfbag break. Tie the full one up and open another.

53 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:29pm

I think Hillary's the first candidate I've ever seen to slam the Constitution. Line was something like (paraphrased) "Even though it didn't apply to either me or my opponent."

You stay classy, democrats.

54 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:30pm

Dinner, dishes, dog, homework check done. Unbelievable, I'm always in time for a commercial!

55 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:35pm

...

56 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:35pm

Does Bounce fabric softener stop gun-cling and Bible-cling as well as static cling?

/typical minds want to know

57 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:40pm
58 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:43pm

HE shall hold office.

59 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:44pm

Corrected linky works for me, thanx.

Low quality, heh, and the video feed is fuzzy, too!

60 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:47pm

re: #47 chicagodudewhotrades

the hell? they do opening statements and then break to commercial?

BIG COMMERCIAL IS RIPPING US OFF!

61 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:54pm

I can't believe not a single cable channel is carrying this in LA. What is this, the 1970s?

62 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:07:58pm

I may just start watching Rome instead. Got the discs in from Netflix.

63 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:03pm

re: #35 bikermailman

Oh, woe is us. Can't get gas $ to find a job

/gee, Obama made over $4M last year, could have at least slipped the guy $100

64 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:07pm

re: #44 NoSubmission

Didn't work for me with Firefox...works with IE.

65 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:28pm

re: #59 itellu3times

Corrected linky works for me, thanx.

Low quality, heh, and the video feed is fuzzy, too!

It's HiDef, content is fuzzy.

66 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:35pm

The windup, the pitch, it's a softball down the center of the plate...

67 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:45pm

So far just the typical snooze-worthy talking points. Gah....

68 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:51pm

Not with that BITCH!

69 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:08:58pm

All I want is the audio. Can't bear to actually cast my gaze upon them.
I am middle aged and I am waiting for just one socialist-democrat promise made at any time since 1955 to be fulfilled. Just one. Other than taxing us til we bleed, I mean.

70 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:06pm

Baracky

71 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:07pm

re: #61 Charles

Ron Burgundy is on vacation.

72 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:14pm

We go from disproportionate force in war to disproportionate appeal to voting groups? How sickiningly liberal an idea.

73 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:18pm

I have been using FireFox 3 beta 5, but that damn thing wants WMP 11 and I cant have 11 it doesnt work with Windows Media Center, yet if I open IE 7, works just fine.

74 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:21pm

The Obama Oracle Speaketh..

/

75 trailortrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:23pm

wtf kinda bs ? was that

76 Beach Lover  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:26pm

boy...they didn't want to answer that one did they?!

77 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:30pm

re: #70 HelloDare

Baracky

That video was funny as hell

78 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:32pm

Of shit, running mate...
idiot question.

79 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:35pm

re: #37 Charles

FRUSTRATED! BITTER!
Arrr!

Did you try c-span.org, Charles?

80 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:38pm

Bitter!

81 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:09:56pm

He's confident

82 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:02pm

Presumptuous, stupid question. Answer: that ain't how it works.

Obambi has it mostly right ... oops, now he's adrift again ...

83 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:04pm

if obama stutters.. he got nailed with the question

84 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:08pm

Thunderdome in Denver!

85 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:15pm

jerky for me on the abc streaming site, i am on the east coast so i will watch it on live tv

however to stay up with you i have to forgo taping it on the DVR and skipping the commericials

I assume that all of you with DVR from motorola and tivo know about the 30 second skip button that is hidden inside your remote, just google it for instructions to remap an unused button to put back this vital feature that the advertisers asked motorola and tivo to take out

86 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:29pm

In August, we're going to riot like it's 1968

87 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:29pm

Obama won't answer the question.

/wants to take shots at McCain all night

88 JustMyView  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #69 rawmuse

All I want is the audio. Can't bear to actually cast my gaze upon them.
I am middle aged and I am waiting for just one socialist-democrat promise made at any time since 1955 to be fulfilled. Just one. Other than taxing us til we bleed, I mean.

Does Medicare count?

89 GeeWiz  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:10:58pm

re: #56 Sifty

Does Bounce fabric softener stop gun-cling and Bible-cling as well as static cling?

/typical minds want to know

ROTFLMAO! Good one!

90 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:03pm

Will any probing questions be asked?

Or will Obama be allowed to be vague again?

He's really hitting the despair theme hard.

91 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:04pm

It would have been so much more entertaining if Obama had just said "Hell no she won't be my running mate. I value my life!"
/a girl can dream

92 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:11pm

I'm almost happy the video is so sucky.

93 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:14pm

re: #85 iceman

jerky for me on the abc streaming site, i am on the east coast so i will watch it on live tv

however to stay up with you i have to forgo taping it on the DVR and skipping the commericials

I assume that all of you with DVR from motorola and tivo know about the 30 second skip button that is hidden inside your remote, just google it for instructions to remap an unused button to put back this vital feature that the advertisers asked motorola and tivo to take out

My Dish remote has it....love that button.

94 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:19pm

Michael Savage is emceeing the whole pillow fight on his radio show.

95 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:31pm

Whatever we have to do.....

Yeah you did in WA and stole the gov.

96 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:44pm

Love to see that green line give one of them the finger.

97 Last Man  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:49pm

Biased reporter pleading for party harmony, here we go.

98 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:11:58pm

C'mon, Hit Him

99 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:07pm

Video at the link above is awful, but the audio seems fine.

100 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:08pm

Bitte baby, bitte

101 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:15pm

ahhhh the bitter question already, nice job quoting him

102 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:16pm

Hillary promises to be a gracious loser.

/talk about your professional liar

103 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:17pm

Skirt the question, then hit hard with the talking points. next up, bitter question for Oh

104 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:20pm

They pale ... compared to McCain. Pale - is that a knock on Obama?

105 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:21pm

HAHA! Commit to being running mates. Neither are answering the freaking question.

106 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:27pm

Where's Obama's flag pin?

107 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:27pm

Wow, this country sucks. Unemployed people who can't afford gas to get a job, losing their homes, etc.

Why on earth do they want to be President of such a terrible place?

108 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:28pm

whoa, here is the guns and religion question

109 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:34pm

ohhh dispair and agony on me

110 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:39pm

Differences like....your body parts?
/wait, that don't work

111 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:39pm

DAMAGE! PAIN!

112 sadhu  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:50pm

the pain is putting up with the bs from the left an the wackjob media

113 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:12:52pm
114 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:04pm

I think she said "pale."

RACISM!

115 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:05pm

re: #85 iceman

jerky for me on the abc streaming site, i am on the east coast so i will watch it on live tv

however to stay up with you i have to forgo taping it on the DVR and skipping the commericials

I assume that all of you with DVR from motorola and tivo know about the 30 second skip button that is hidden inside your remote, just google it for instructions to remap an unused button to put back this vital feature that the advertisers asked motorola and tivo to take out

You use a stock remote?

116 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:08pm

Barack: Let me say this, I don't mean what I say. I want to be perfectly clear about that.

117 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:09pm

wrong syntax!

118 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:10pm

Way to completely avoid the fact that you said people cling to guns and god because of economics.

119 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:23pm

re: #90 Charles

Will any probing questions be asked?

Or will Obama be allowed to be vague again?

He's really hitting the despair theme hard.

Sen. Obama you sought out and worked in Alinsky founded organizations. Will you now forswear Alinsky Stalinist policies?

120 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:26pm

Chelsea in the audience.

/makes me sorry I even have HD

121 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:32pm

Cling!

122 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:43pm

re: #115 DownRightMeanAmerican

You use a stock remote?

Whatever came with the unit. Got it a couple of years ago.

123 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:47pm

Here comes the question for Obama.

Do you understand some people find it patronizing?

124 sadhu  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:50pm

mangler

125 GeeWiz  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:53pm

RUH, OH, here comes the "clingy" question!

126 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:55pm
127 Tarkus289  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:13:59pm

I hate his speaking style.

128 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:05pm

Let me be clear about what I meant.

129 lookingup  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:05pm

If he felt my pain you would see him doubled over.

130 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:11pm

She needs to give him some cling static

131 Luigi  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:16pm

Cracker-quiddic

132 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:17pm

It's not a tradition, Senator. It's part of the Bill of Rights.

133 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:21pm

re: #106 NoSubmission

Where's Obama's flag pin?


Hannity said BHO was wearing one earlier, given to him by a disabled veteran.

134 Beach Lover  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:25pm

he's using all his talking points trying to avoid answering the question

135 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:29pm

re: #120 Killian Bundy

Chelsea in the audience.

/makes me sorry I even have HD

Thankfully, my HDTV is in the other room, I have to watch it online.

136 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:31pm

Obambi still trying to put worms back in can. Move on, dude.

137 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:35pm

re: #28 Charles

NP, I got me a TV.

138 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:35pm

Change. Unique.

139 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:38pm

re: #123 Charles

Charles, sounds like you're lagging behind the feed I have. Have you moves the little thingy forward?

140 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:42pm

solve my issues

141 sabra412  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:44pm

"Ordinary People"

yeah, you're not patronizing...

142 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:51pm

Her grandfather's from Scranton...nice find Hillary

143 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:52pm
144 Render  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:57pm

30 seconds of that was all I could stand.

Which is about as far as my patience goes with people who will lie to me with the full knowledge that I am aware that they are lying.

Thank God for violent video games...

DIGITAL
KILLER,
R

145 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:14:57pm

re: #106 NoSubmission

Where's Obama's flag pin?

/did they play the national anthem?

146 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:05pm

Factory worker!

147 Macker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:06pm

re: #86 bikermailman

In August, wethey're going to riot like it's 1968

There, fixed that for ya!

148 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:06pm

'Wedge issues.' You got that right Obama, get ready. If you get the nom. that wedge is gonna be headed in your direction at 200 mph.

149 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:07pm

relief! Gimme Gimme Gimme

150 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:20pm

Nice.....way to call him out for the clinging to religion

151 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:26pm

How can you tell when Hill's lying? Her lips are moving. I call BS on her grandpa story. He just happened to live in PA?

152 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:32pm

john edwards just called he wants his lines back

153 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:33pm

Saint Hillary explains religion...


barf

154 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:33pm

I meant what I said.

155 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:39pm

With video this poor, we won't be able to see the tiny tear-pixel if Hillary cries again.

156 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:39pm

I'm heading for the gun range!

157 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:50pm

re: #147 Macker

There, fixed that for ya!

I was speaking from the Dumbocrat POV

158 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:15:55pm

re: #131 Luigi

Cracker-quiddic

Beggin' your pardon.....You called?

159 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:01pm

re: #155 Charles

hahaha...looks like baracky's going to cry though, not hill

160 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:08pm

re: #155 Charles

They'll have an arrow pointing to it.

161 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:13pm

Lace mills? Lace mills?
Lord have mercy.

162 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:14pm

I pray I will never hear Hillary talk about religion, when will come my day of deliverance?

163 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:15pm
164 Macker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:20pm

re: #151 Bob in Breckenridge

That must mean she was definitely lying 9 months before Chelsea was born!

165 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:24pm

re: #151 Bob in Breckenridge

How can you tell when Hill's lying? Her lips are moving. I call BS on her grandpa story. He just happened to live in PA?

She's the Nature Boy Ric Flair of politics.

166 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:27pm

It's called a Constitution, not a tradition, you dipsticks

167 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:31pm

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.

168 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:42pm

Dod Gamn America

169 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:42pm

Hillary is the granddaughter of a mill worker!

/thought I was listening to Edwards for a second there

170 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:43pm

Grand daughter of a factory worker qualifies her to do exactly what? Quaff whiskey?

171 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:44pm

re: #167 Charles

Sounds like a good time

172 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:53pm

I'm frustrated the best the (D)s have are a pair of GRAMSCIAN WHORES!

173 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:16:54pm

re: #155 Charles

Unfortunately I can see her in HD. I need just listen on the radio.

174 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:06pm

A troll party.

Got two hate mails already, triggered by that Voice article...

175 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:07pm
176 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:12pm

did hill's grandfather work with edward's dad down at the mill?

177 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:16pm

re: #164 Macker

That must mean she was definitely lying 9 months before Chelsea was born!

I don't want to think about Shrillary lying down 9 mos before Chelsea was born

178 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:25pm

Ew, George Clintonopolis.

Obambi, see if you can name more PA cities than Hilda did.

179 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:29pm

open reg,open reg,open reg

180 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:30pm

re: #161 rawmuse

For all the lace curtain Irish I guess.

181 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:36pm

re: #167 Charles

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.

Charles, I'll supply the wine..... LOL

182 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:37pm

Cauldron?

183 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:41pm

re: #167 Charles

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.

Ah.... you've already started drinking .

184 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:42pm

re: #174 Charles

A troll party.

Got two hate mails already, triggered by that Voice article...

Open it up!

185 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:48pm

re: #167 Charles

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.

I fire up the barbeque, and get that special sauce for gamy buttocks warming up.

186 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:49pm

re: #167 Charles

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.


A troll party? Cool, might liven up this snooze fest.

187 Macker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:51pm

re: #177 bikermailman

Who said anything about lying down?

/EEEEWWWWWW!

188 AmericanDefender  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:54pm

Of course ABC is running the debate at 8 PT. How can they spread this agenda to the west coast if most of their west coast socialists are sitting in traffic?

189 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:55pm

did she just cut her experience down to 16 years?

190 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:17:56pm

VRWC!

191 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:02pm

&#9834 &#9836 GO FOR IT CHARLES! &#9836 &#9834

192 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:05pm

Make it happen
/by hook or crook

193 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:10pm
194 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:14pm

re: #167 Charles

Maybe I should open registration. Make it a party.

Chaos will ensue. Noooooo

195 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:24pm

What's she been through again...?

196 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:29pm

Open registration, YES! Get some VV lurkers. They want to be here, really!

197 Cartman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:31pm

re: #156 NoSubmission

I'm heading for the gun range!

Hide the ammo, first. It might not be there when you come back.

198 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:32pm

Vast right wing conspiracy.

199 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:33pm

re: #193 song_and_dance_man

Trolls. I'll start the barbie.

I'll finish Barbie

200 Tarkus289  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:45pm

Hannity asked George Steph. to ask obanana a couple of questions yesterday, I wonder if he will.

201 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:45pm
202 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:49pm

re: #195 NoSubmission

I believe her husband may have cheated on her. But that depends on what your definition of may is.

203 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:54pm

re: #180 Sifty

For all the lace curtain Irish I guess.

The Irish worked in the coal and steel mills. I know, I am descended from them. Every day I thank the Lord I never had to set foot in one... Lace mills? hmm

204 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:18:57pm

What the hell is George Clintonopoulus doing there? Isn't that sort of a conflict of interest. Or is he for Obama, too? Either way, he's not going to do anything that will make McCain look good..

205 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:00pm

On the receiving end of what the Republican Party dishes out...

206 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:00pm

Hillary's kinda on. Obama has nothing to do but lose in this thing and Hillary's got nothing to lose.

And there's no way she thinks he can win against McCain. I think I may take a swig for every lie I hear and by the end of this thing I'll be passed out.

207 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:07pm

Haven't had anything to drink yet, but I do have a couple of Steinlagers in the fridge.

208 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:08pm

re: #9 Palandine

Has anyone found anything the west coasters do like? They sure like to screw up Califas. Problem is they're moving on out of the swamp they made and now trying to make cesspools of Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

209 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:13pm

come on , give us something to play with !

210 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:14pm

He cannot say the word "Christian"

211 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:25pm

You're no "person of faith" Obama.

212 Luigi  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:25pm

You call that 'faith'?!

213 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:32pm

Reserve a registration spot for the author of the Voice article.
Can you invite people?

214 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:32pm
215 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:36pm

re: #155 Charles

With video this poor, we won't be able to see the tiny tear-pixel if Hillary cries again.

They need to rearrange that window. Get the logo out, make graph smaller, live feed bigger.

216 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:40pm

/Just saw Chelsea and her boyfriend!

217 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:40pm

Barack is a person of faith.

He's done more to reach out to people of faith. Than anyone, ever.

218 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:41pm

Maybe you could restrict registration to conservatives, IQ > 167, yacht owners, bimmer drivers, etc....

219 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:46pm

Condescending? Obama? Nooooooo. Say it ain't so, Dumbo.

220 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:47pm

re: #207 Charles

I think I'd prefer a little Ben & Jerry's "American Dream" right now

221 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:48pm

He loves gun owners.

222 JustMyView  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:52pm

re: #151 Bob in Breckenridge

How can you tell when Hill's lying? Her lips are moving. I call BS on her grandpa story. He just happened to live in PA?

As a matter of fact, he did live in PA. They were Welsh immigrants---possibly one generation further back. Hillary spent vacations and family holidays there. Lots of reports of this on the line, as well as at least one interview w/ a person who knew her as a little girl during those visits. PA is a big and old state. Hardly surprising that lots of people are from there.

223 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:19:58pm

He ani’t no person of faith.

224 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:00pm

obama don't bring up the faith thingy--that is a sore point with half the country


at least he does not go hunting like john kerry

225 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:12pm

Clinton's been beating it to death.

226 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:15pm

Obambi is NOT handling the elitist issue at all well.

He should do some redneck jokes, I think.

227 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:16pm

Pants of fire BO! You meant what you said, no one is spinning.

228 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:16pm

The Obammunist is a giant affectation. Mostly urban, metrosexual over-enunciation. Whistling in quality.

229 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:19pm
230 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:23pm

Cookies!

231 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:25pm

Il gun owners support BHO

I call BS

232 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:26pm

re: #203 rawmuse

Missouri hay farmer Irish here. We must have been claustrophobic.

233 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:27pm

Obama is a person of faith and has reached out to people of faith.

/except for Catholics and Jews

234 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:28pm

re: #220 ModerateWolverine

I think I'd prefer a little Ben & Jerry's "American Dream" right now

Blue Bell. B&J are commies.

235 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:30pm

re: #207 Charles

Haven't had anything to drink yet, but I do have a couple of Steinlagers in the fridge.

Steinlager rocks!

236 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:30pm

Sportsmen and gun owners in my own state support me.--Obama

I call BS. Illinois has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

237 lookingup  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:37pm

re: #221 Charles

He loves gun owners.

where is the Sac/ tag Charles

238 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:38pm

The little people don't really care about this kind of thing.

239 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:40pm

re: #210 Crimsonfisted

The Dims can't say the word... it's faith, faith, faith.

240 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:49pm

re: #234 bikermailman

Blue Bell....never had....can I get that in NY?

241 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:52pm

Well, I can't get it to play, audio or visual.
But from following along here, I'll feel like it was a rerun by the time 8pm pacific rolls around.
:)
So is registration open?

242 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:55pm

Distractions! Drink!

243 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:56pm

He brings out the 'baking cookies' comments.

244 ergo sum  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:56pm

Barak has done more for gun totin' bible thumpin' backwater racists than anyone in this race!

245 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:20:58pm

Yay, open registration!

246 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:09pm

/frustrated and angry!

247 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:18pm

Because character matters BO

248 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:24pm
249 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:27pm

re: #229 song_and_dance_man

B. Hussein has gun owners behind him? Yeah Bill Ayers and his friends.

Bomb throwers owners he meant.

250 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:27pm

re: #231 jcm

Il gun owners support BHO

I call BS

No no no...the Brownshirts are firmly behind him

251 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:30pm

re: #217 Charles

Barack is a person of faith.

He's done more to reach out to people of faith. Than anyone, ever.

I BELIEVE! I Believe in Hope! I Believe in Change! I....I....I.....well,

actually, I believe I'll have a glass of wine. Anyone care to join me?

252 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:21:42pm

They both want to be VERY CLEAR

253 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:12pm

re: #240 ModerateWolverine

Blue Bell....never had....can I get that in NY?

I dunno...it's all over this region of the country. Made in a little creamery in Brenham.....Tx

254 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:12pm

boring so far. Rezko! Hsu!

255 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:17pm
What we each stand for...

Barf.

256 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:24pm

re: #238 Charles

The little people don't really care about this kind of thing.

Nobody does.

Hope McCain is knocking them back right now and cackling.

257 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:30pm

16 back up to 35

258 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:38pm

Damn. Osama is the second coming of Wayne LaPierre!

259 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:45pm
260 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:45pm

Obama has gun owners in his district, that's a lot different than saying you support gun rights.

/make no mistake, Obama is Gun Satan!

261 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:52pm

Yeesh. Why are these live streaming systems so primitive?

262 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:53pm

re: #229 song_and_dance_man

B. Hussein has gun owners behind him? Yeah Bill Ayers and his friends.


I have such a great comeback, but.... I just can't go there. Not now. Not here.....

263 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:54pm

re: #256 itellu3times

Nobody does.

Hope McCain is knocking them back right now and cackling.

Budweisers?

264 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:22:55pm

And moving right along to Rev Wright

265 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:04pm

re: #251 Grammy Cracker

I BELIEVE! I Believe in Hope! I Believe in Change! I....I....I.....well,

actually, I believe I'll have a glass of wine. Anyone care to join me?

Why, yes I will, toots. I have a nice glass of Aussie Shiraz gracing me crystal.

*clink*clink*

Cheers, luv!

*sip*

:D

266 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:05pm

everyone have a drink whenever either one says "as well"

"as well" is the latest spacer phrase, having supplanted such phrases as "absolutely" "again" and "that's what I'm talkin' about!"

y'know what I'm sayin'?

267 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:07pm

is this lame or wot

268 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:13pm

Please Dear Saturnalia - no 3 hour long discussion of "universal health care"

269 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:16pm

Billary empowers me. Yaaaaaaaa!

270 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:20pm

Barack's faith is Black Liberation Theology. It's Marxism but with race substituted for class struggle.

"White Folks greed runs a world in need. This is the rock upon which Hope sits." That was in the speech that made Barack cry. "The Audacity of Hope." The title of Wright's speech and Barack's book. That's Barack's religion. Black Liberation Theology..

271 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:25pm

Rescinded invite - an actual tough question!

272 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:35pm

re: #260 Killian Bundy

The only guns BHo wants are the ones his bodyguards carry. Same as all limousine liberals.

273 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:40pm

liar

274 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:40pm

I wish they had rulers to smack each other with. I could really liven this debate up.

275 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:41pm

re: #266 friarstale

we'd be pretty smashed in a matter of minutes

276 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:45pm

come on guys make nice

Oh! Come on you people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Yes! Come on you people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now

277 Luigi  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:45pm

Pimp.

278 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:46pm

I'll have a Fat Tire. Great beer out of Ft Collins CO

279 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:52pm

I'm making vodka chicken and pasta.....so what wine goes with that?
Or should I just have some of the vodka?

280 markx  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:57pm

uh oh. Charlie axes a tough question.

281 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:23:59pm

Good question Charlie G! Kudos!

282 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:01pm

The 2nd Amendment is so, well, quaint, really. And the First and the Fourth as well. Just quaint little traditions.

283 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:04pm
284 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:04pm

Words!

Controversial.

285 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:04pm

re: #122 bikermailman

Whatever came with the unit. Got it a couple of years ago.

Just giving you a hard time, I like this remote almost as much as this one.

They are better than this one.

286 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:09pm

Uh oh, the Rev. Wright question. This should be good.

287 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:14pm

liar!

288 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:19pm

Charley dropping the hammer?

289 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:27pm

re: #252 jamgarr

It's not possible for them to be clear. You have to have some ability to tell the truth. Neither of them have that ability.

290 LoFlyer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:30pm

Yeah, Obama is going to get the NRA's endorsment tomorrow

/sarc off

291 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:39pm

Oustanding ministry of Gd Dman America!

292 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:40pm

"i've discussed this extensively"

TRANSLATION: Don't ask me about Reverend Wrong

293 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:42pm

re: #263 bikermailman

Budweisers?

[Link: newmedia.funnyjunk.com...]

294 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:49pm

re: #283 song_and_dance_man

Love Fat Tire draft.

Me too. I need to get a kegerator.

295 zeebeach  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:49pm

Distraction! Drink!

296 sabra412  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:49pm

all of Rev Wrights non You Tube Sermons were filled with love of America and Israel...

297 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:54pm
298 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:54pm

re: #289 svines

It's not possible for them to be clear. You have to have some ability to tell the truth. Neither of them have that ability.


Yes.

299 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:24:58pm

He sees anger everywhere..

300 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:20pm

uhh but but but stutter

301 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:27pm

No streaming for me.

302 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:27pm

Still schuking and jiving on Wright's comments. I know he's offensive but I just don't know why, but hey, he reaches out to HIV even though he tells them the Gov't is at fault.

303 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:29pm

obama is too longwinded.

304 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:30pm

re: #266 friarstale

everyone have a drink whenever either one says "as well"

"as well" is the latest spacer phrase, having supplanted such phrases as "absolutely" "again" and "that's what I'm talkin' about!"

y'know what I'm sayin'?

We'll all be too toasted to post. Vacation for Charles! LOL

305 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:32pm

You had 20 years to "move beyond it". You didn't.

306 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:36pm

{No Sub} toots! *mwah*

307 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:38pm

re: #285 DownRightMeanAmerican

Just giving you a hard time, I like this remote almost as much as this one.

They are better than this one.

The last remote....the remote for bitter people.

308 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:46pm

Rev.Wright: You tube Snippets. Thats all. Move beyond it.

309 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:49pm

BO, you have not reached across the aisle not ONCE!

310 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:52pm

re: #303 brakes

Long winded, lots of words, but I have no idea what the hell he just said

311 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:25:56pm

There is nothing to him. He' an empty shell.

312 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:01pm

is anyone recorded this to play through that voice stress analyzer that us used as a lie detector?

313 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:07pm

He's excusing Wright again. Ridiculous. Maybe the Demolibs will let it slide but in the general there's no way he can keep up this b.s. for so long.

And did you see Michelle Obama on Colbert, there's something about her that makes my skin crawl.

314 lookingup  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:08pm

Is he trying to sell a bridge?

315 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:13pm

He believes in Wright's worlds so much they bring tears to his eyes. He believes in Wright so much he carries his children in to the church to hear his pastor speak.

316 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:14pm

This must be the tenth time Obama's used the word "anger." Does he think that resonates? Is it because of the angry people he surrounds himself with?

/Anger and fear, these things lead to the dark side--Yoda

317 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:20pm

re: #261 Charles

Yeesh. Why are these live streaming systems so primitive?

Tubes are too small?
They have to compete with all that porn.

318 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:21pm

re: #306 Miss Trixie

{No Sub} toots! *mwah*

Miss Trix! :)

319 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:25pm
320 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:26pm

i just want my soul saved. has he said it yet. can i get it in writing.

321 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:26pm

"Bridging"
Every time I hear that word I see a muslim.

322 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:34pm

uh.oh.
pastors..

323 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:35pm

re: #90 Charles

Will any probing questions be asked?

Or will Obama be allowed to be vague again?

He's really hitting the despair theme hard.

If Obamanation is elected, I'll despair.

324 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:35pm

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

maybe the yellow flash in the cartoon is the terrorist bombs that are always detonating around you... oh wait thats right, that never happens to you, you're just a whiny little bitch. queerbait.

325 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:41pm

re: #311 NoSubmission

There is nothing to him. He' an empty shell.

An empty shell with a lot of empty heads following him.

326 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:41pm

re: #283 song_and_dance_man

Love Fat Tire draft.

A lot of places have it in kegs around here.

327 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:45pm

re: #302 eaglewingz08

Still schuking and jiving on Wright's comments. I know he's offensive but I just don't know why, but hey, he reaches out to HIV even though he tells them the Gov't is at fault.

Don't confuse me with logic.

328 guzziguy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:47pm

liar2

329 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:51pm

re: #294 bikermailman

Me too. I need to get a kegerator.

NewCastle Brown ale.

330 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:52pm

re: #310 ModerateWolverine


Neither do I.

331 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:26:55pm

Fat Tire is good. Glenlivet is better. A toast to all!

332 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:04pm

re: #265 Miss Trixie

Why, yes I will, toots. I have a nice glass of Aussie Shiraz gracing me crystal.

*clink*clink*

Cheers, luv!

*sip*

:D

Back atcha, Miss Trixie! I'm quaffing a nice Napa Cabernet tonight. Loves me some Aussie Shiraz, too!

Salut!

333 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:05pm

Troofer Ministry

334 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:20pm

What would Wright have to say for Obama to walk out, or at least cover his children's ears?

335 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:20pm

re: #324 Charles

That article was such a load of crap

336 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:25pm

mmmm Guinness. A pork chop in every glass.

337 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:29pm

good queston to hillary--are you saying that black christians are stupid and racist?

338 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:29pm

re: #312 iceman

is anyone recorded this to play through that voice stress analyzer that us used as a lie detector?

no way, that thing wouldn't stop beeping the whole time. would interfere with the entertainment.

339 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:33pm
340 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:34pm

come on cackles, git him

341 LoFlyer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:35pm

Who's moderating this debate?

342 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:41pm

re: #316 Palandine

This must be the tenth time Obama's used the word "anger." Does he think that resonates? Is it because of the angry people he surrounds himself with?

/Anger and fear, these things lead to the dark side--Yoda

A quote came out the other day. He said that you aren't going to change anything unless you get mad and angry. Fits with his Alinsky ties. I wrote about it yesterday.

343 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:41pm

re: #275 ModerateWolverine

we'd be pretty smashed in a matter of minutes

yes, I think so as well

344 lookingup  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:43pm

re: #324 Charles

I can feel the love.

345 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:45pm

Hillary hauling water for the Republicans. Obama is going to be the nominee but Hillary's doing a lot of damage.

346 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:50pm

liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar

347 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:51pm

re: #324 Charles

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

queerbait?

I haven't heard that since High School. In the early 80s.

348 Fenboy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:51pm

re: #324 Charles

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

Funny how the supposed progessives contain some of the worst racists sexists and homophobes on the planet...

349 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:56pm

re: #261 Charles

Yeesh. Why are these live streaming systems so primitive?

Good question.

/my TV HD signal is coming down th same pipe, at least after both signals get to Comcast

350 Maine's Michael  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:27:57pm

Obama's great fortune is that he has such a thoroughly detestable opponent.

I think Obama will get creamed in the general.

351 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:06pm

Pastor Wars!

352 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:09pm

re: #313 neocon nony

He's excusing Wright again. Ridiculous. Maybe the Demolibs will let it slide but in the general there's no way he can keep up this b.s. for so long.

And did you see Michelle Obama on Colbert, there's something about her that makes my skin crawl.

Michelle Obama: "Me and Barack..."! And this woman went to Harvard and Princeton?

353 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:10pm

re: #326 Bob in Breckenridge

A lot of places have it in kegs around here.

Imagine that...just down the road and over the mountain.

354 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:12pm

I was not in church that day or those days ....or ever

355 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:15pm

This video stream is really, really choppy....arghghghghgh!

356 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:18pm

What a liar. Obama quotes the "Audacity of Hope" speech in his book.

357 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:27pm

Still won't say why he rescinded the invitation to Rev. Wright.

358 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:30pm

re: #343 friarstale

Maybe that's not such a bad thing...

As an aside...anyone able to read body language well, he looks pretty defensive and unsure right now

359 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:30pm

re: #324 Charles

Charles, it was in the Village Voice you know.

360 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:34pm

Charles, Just another charm school graduate.

361 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:28:54pm
362 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:00pm

re: #324 Charles
queerbait?
what is the deal with that guy thinking you are gay?

363 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:05pm

Here comes the Rev. defense. Lot of tap dancing going on.

364 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:07pm

re: #352 Bob in Breckenridge

Michelle Obama: "Me and Barack..."! And this woman went to Harvard and Princeton?

I think she was speaking to a...lower class...audience. She was doing the accent too.

365 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:09pm

re: #324 Charles

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

queenbait?


Oh, Charles, they're on to us.

366 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:18pm

re: #324 Charles

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

Aww...AngryIgbo has a crush on you. :)

367 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:18pm

So Wright isn't his problem. Race is America's problem.

368 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:21pm

"community organizer" what is that?

369 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:22pm

re: #361 song_and_dance_man

B. Hussein is a freaking liar.

And that's all he is.

370 -rac  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:25pm

Fat Tire is so-so, 1554 is much better.

371 RedFox84  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:25pm

MUA HA! My first post ever! (The hardest post there is)

...

I wish I would've waited and made it a little more special. :(

372 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:27pm

Amazing, to see Hilda standing next to Obambi, with him the bigger liar. Must make her very jealous.

373 Tarkus289  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:27pm

re: #364 bikermailman

I hate when they do that.

374 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:33pm

Obamas wife embodies diversity. That is what America is about.

375 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:35pm

Push him George, he will crack

376 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:37pm
377 neocon hippie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:41pm

Mussolini made the trains run on time.

378 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:43pm

re: #279 mean Gene

I'm making vodka chicken and pasta.....so what wine goes with that?
Or should I just have some of the vodka?

Drink what you like. I generally prefer reds, so I would probably choose a Pinot Noir, or even a Merlot, but a Chardonnay would work, too. If you *taste* the vodka while preparing the food, sticking with that would be a good choice.

/I love cooking with wine. Sometimes, I even put it in the food! So says the plaque on my kitchen wall....

379 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:44pm

BHO, if you are dedicated to getting us to work together, why do you drive us apart with your actions and words?

380 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:45pm

He can't even bridge the divide in the Dem party. The rest of us? only if we convert.

381 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:29:51pm

That was a Hannity question steffie just asked!

382 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:06pm

re: #371 RedFox84

MUA HA! My first post ever! (The hardest post there is)

...

I wish I would've waited and made it a little more special. :(

Be good. I got my eye on you.

383 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:10pm

BO's head is starting to lean, way over...

384 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:12pm

george is making him squirm :)

385 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:17pm

you have no track record BO!

386 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:21pm

u...h.. distracted...

387 sabra412  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:23pm

Nice of him to have confidence in the American People...

388 Beachkatie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:23pm

Wow he never was in church when Wright made these statements?I need drink now ....

389 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:24pm

re: #370 -rac

Fat Tire is so-so, 1554 is much better.

Yeah, but my local store only carries the fat tire. I'm in the country

390 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:27pm
391 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:28pm

Distracted! Drink!

392 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:30pm

re: #371 RedFox84


Welcome


There's only one thing kept me out of college - high school.
Redd Foxx

393 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:31pm
just a whiny little bitch


It's a little coarse for a rotating title

394 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:35pm

re: #381 Bob in Breckenridge

Nice! They need to be asking these tough questions (which they actually are), because they're sending off this dem to get beat up by McCain

395 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:41pm

I could be wrong, but I caught a small amount of Hannity on the way home yesterday.

Was it Steph he was interviewing?

396 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:42pm

Keep pushing George!

397 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:46pm

How does one decide which of two blathering liars wins a debate?

398 Fenboy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:50pm

uh...uh...uh...

399 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:50pm

"...when they see my track record...

WHAT f'ing track record?

WHEN did you disown Wright's comments?

400 Luigi  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:54pm

So was Oswald.

401 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:58pm

Obama getting a little tongue tied.

Oh my.

402 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:58pm

re: #395 formercorpsman

I could be wrong, but I caught a small amount of Hannity on the way home yesterday.

Was it Steph he was interviewing?

Yes.

403 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:30:59pm

Former Marine and former Muslim..

Current bigot.

404 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:02pm

re: #388 Beachkatie

Wow he never was in church when Wright made these statements?I need drink now ....

Have to have Kool Aid to buy that one

405 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:02pm

"You've disowned him?"

406 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:03pm

Disowned? Him? Comments?

No Mas!

407 ergo sum  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:06pm

re: #363 rawmuse

Here comes the Rev. defense. Lot of tap dancing going on.


Racist....tap dancing....reeeaaallly :D

408 LA-Lawyer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:11pm

My first post. A hatchling.

409 Tarkus289  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:12pm

re: #395 formercorpsman

Yes.

410 Maine's Michael  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:15pm

Who would you rather have as first lady?

Michele Obama or Bill Clinton?

That is a tough one . . .

411 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:16pm

re: #331 svines

Fat Tire is good. Glenlivet is better. A toast to all!

NYET. Glenlivet is owned by parent company of Absolut.

412 FrogMarch  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:18pm

Hark the holy and precious utopian nanny state saviors. Come worship!

413 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:19pm

re: #324 Charles

An email received earlier from someone in Canada:

Relax, Charles. That's probably from my cowardly, pasty-faced, scrawny, pimply-decorated, sub-human Quebecois co-worker from down the hall with bad teeth and he smells bad.

He has a concave chest too.

:P

414 Charles  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:20pm

He's STILL backing Wright.

415 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:20pm

Racism causes Thrutherism.

416 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:20pm

re: #400 Luigi

So was Oswald.

Excellent! you are right.

417 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:20pm
418 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:24pm

US of AmericaKKKKK

Yeah sure he loves America.

419 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:24pm

"you've disowned him?"

what a perfect interjection that was!

420 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:26pm

Steffie is like a dog chewing on a bone about Rev. Wright. Go get him!

421 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:28pm

Wright was a marine. Wasn't Benedict Arnold a soldier, too?

422 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:35pm

Pile it on, Hillary!

423 sabra412  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:35pm

So Basically the Rev and Obama love America the same amount?

424 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:35pm

re: #405 Charles

he keeps referring to these comments he's disowned, but never specified once

425 LoFlyer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:37pm

Its interesting to hear them dancing around the questions. Clinton attempting to not piss-off black church-members and Obama dancing around why he stayed with the church despite the fiery rhetoric of Minister Wright....

426 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:43pm

To quote AngryIgbo in relation to Obama's answers: "I'm ANGRY ANGRY" :)

427 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:51pm
428 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:56pm

obama is still refusing to take responsibility for his association with wright and it will ring false with the people in the general

you can bet the mccain campaign is recording this and making the test ads nows

what did obama know and when did he know it?

429 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:31:57pm

Tap, tap, tap, tapping.... nice little squirming dance.

430 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:00pm

re: #408 LA-Lawyer

My first post. A hatchling.

And I'm watching you too, Lawyer...

431 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:01pm

Yeah....that high fallutin' high school where his classmates thought highly of him

432 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:05pm

re: #371 RedFox84

MUA HA! My first post ever! (The hardest post there is)

...

I wish I would've waited and made it a little more special. :(

welecome newbie now go get me a beer :)

433 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:06pm

has anybody actually looked into Rev. wright being USMC? I mean looked up his DD-214, or is everybody taking the Rev.'s word for it?

434 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:10pm

He can't disown Wright. He IS Wright. Wright is his voters.

435 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:14pm

re: #427 song_and_dance_man

Come on Cackle, crack him.

Or cry. Give us something...

436 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:15pm

re: #408 LA-Lawyer

My first post. A hatchling.

Welcome, gonna' be busy set up a round and keep 'em coming.

437 Miss Trixie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:19pm

re: #332 Grammy Cracker

Back atcha, Miss Trixie! I'm quaffing a nice Napa Cabernet tonight. Loves me some Aussie Shiraz, too!

Salut!

Salut! *mwah* :D

438 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:19pm

Bring people together against the Republicans.

439 Beach Lover  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:21pm

these two are talking in circles and making my hair hurt

440 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:21pm

re: #402 Crimsonfisted

I know the apocalypse is coming now.

441 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:23pm

Good Hillary! Bringing up the Hamas link in the newsletters.

442 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:29pm

I don't care if Wright was Aquaman's brother by another mother.

443 ornery elephant  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:34pm

Did Hillary just link Obama to Farrakhan?

444 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:37pm

Smack him with it Hillzebub!

445 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:40pm

The big B is not happy right now. I'd say the moderators are doing a good job so far. The truth is that this is necessary, it's just astounding how rare it is that he gets follow-up questions on issues that are this serious.

Hillary brings up the hamas scumbag op-ed!

446 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:42pm

Welcome, LA! bring beer

447 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:44pm

re: #441 Crimsonfisted

Yeah! She must read LGF

448 Luigi  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:46pm

Incoming.

449 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:47pm

The Obama Seal of Approval. Rev. Farrakhan, Hamass Bulletin, zing!

450 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:50pm

re: #395 formercorpsman

I could be wrong, but I caught a small amount of Hannity on the way home yesterday.

Was it Steph he was interviewing?

Yes, yesterday.

451 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:32:57pm

Georgie boy going after PIAPS....


LOL.

452 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:00pm

That question about disinviting Wright to his candidacy announcement, over a year ago (for being rough in sermons), is a key lynch pin in what Obama knew and when did he know it.

/Obama is caught in in the big lie and he still doesn't have a cohesive answer

453 ec marm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:02pm

Come on Hillary, get out the fangs. Shit, they let BO off the hook.

454 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:03pm
455 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:06pm

Comment Smackdown 2008

456 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:12pm

Obama: Yes, I do lie. That's the honky in me..

457 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:12pm

I like these pointed questions. Finially!

458 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:13pm

Parachuting into Bosnia under sniper fire question!

459 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:25pm

Can either of these two answer a direct question? What a bunch of dancing...

460 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:28pm

60 %.....hahahahhahahahha

461 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:30pm

ooooh, Bosnia!

she may be a lot of things, ...

462 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:35pm

Haha, George is a pit bull tonight!

463 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:33:58pm

So many lies, neither one of them knows they're even lying anymore.

464 jamgarr  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:01pm

Did she just admit that she lied?!

465 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:01pm

re: #411 Sol Roth
Oh Crap! What to do? Do they own Glenfiditch (sp) Glenmarangie and all of the other good single malts too?

466 yesandno  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:02pm

OK....
The debate is now 30 minutes old and NOT ONE POLICY has been discussed. NOT ONE PROPOSAL has been made. NO SUBSTANCE. Just GOTCHA POLITICS.

Have you noticed how large Hillary's lower half is when filmed from "behind" ....they seem to like that angle on the debate.

This is the best 1/2 the country has to offer? God help us.

467 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:02pm
I'm not dumb...

Hell no, we all know you're the smartest woman in the world.

468 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:02pm

not dumb, just a frakkin' liar!

469 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:04pm

Better stream link, anyone?

470 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:08pm

Not dumb. Ha!

471 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:14pm

She admits she lied.

472 -RAC  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:16pm

re: #389 bikermailman

Yeah, but my local store only carries the fat tire. I'm in the country

oh so sorry I live in Fort Fun

473 freetoken  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:20pm

So the question is, Why is Hillary "carrying water" for the Repubs?

BTW, some of these questions are notably stickier than in the "debates" of months ago...

474 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:20pm

So you put the Office of First Lady in that much danger? You had no right.

475 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:21pm

re: #458 Palandine

Parachuting into Bosnia under sniper fire question!

She was tired

476 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:26pm
477 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:27pm

She did admit in a clintonesque way

478 mikeinmd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:28pm

Kicks Grandma to the curb but hangs on to Rev Wright ?

479 Bloodnok  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:28pm

Ugh, Wesley Clark...... I knew I shouldn't have flipped over to the debate.

Rolaids, please.

480 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:34pm

re: #365 MarkX

queenbait?


Oh, Charles, they're on to us.

yeah, from Canada, where they aren't allowed to have conservative blogs

[Link: ezralevant.com...]


[Link: cruxy.com...]

481 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:35pm

damn, they are actually doing their jobs :0

482 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:36pm

re: #469 formercorpsman

I looked for one and couldn't find one.

483 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:39pm

Shouldn't she be wearing a flak jacket right now?

484 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:40pm
485 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:41pm

re: #383 ec marm

BO's head is starting to lean, way over...

we know what that means. nervous tic of a liar.

486 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:45pm

re: #462 gordan the fisherman

Haha, George is a pit bull tonight!

She used to berate him in the White House. Payback's a bitch.

487 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:54pm

Kudos to both Charlie and Steffie. They're NOT lobbing softballs, tonight!

488 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:56pm

re: #466 yesandno

OK....
The debate is now 30 minutes old and NOT ONE POLICY has been discussed. NOT ONE PROPOSAL has been made. NO SUBSTANCE. Just GOTCHA POLITICS.

Have you noticed how large Hillary's lower half is when filmed from "behind" ....they seem to like that angle on the debate.

This is the best 1/2 the country has to offer? God help us.

Yeah, it is an enjoyable evening so far.

489 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:57pm

Only woman in the world who confuses a bouquet of flowers with sniper fire.

490 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:58pm

re: #472 -RAC

oh so sorry I live in Fort Fun

Where is this ft fun you speak of?

491 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:34:59pm

Anyone who has every been shot at remembers.

PERIOD!

492 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:11pm
493 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:14pm

did not mispeak but "was not accurate" re bosnia

more sleep or stop lying

494 Beachkatie  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:15pm

re: #414 Charles

He's STILL backing Wright.


It's a sad day in the U.S.A.!

495 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:18pm

re: #482 Killgore Trout

You know, for all of the debates we have done this for, this actually sounds like one that could be worth listening to.

496 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:22pm

re: #469 formercorpsman

The stupid graph is bigger that the video.

497 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:22pm

re: #465 svines

Oh Crap! What to do? Do they own Glenfiditch (sp) Glenmarangie and all of the other good single malts too?

Neither of those thankfully. I had to pour out a 2/3rd of a bottle of Glenlivet last week :(.

498 LA-Lawyer  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:24pm

Impossible to keep up, the speed of these posts!
A country lawyer, by the way, MarkX

499 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:28pm

I hope she said jibe not jive!

500 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:32pm

Ok, so who's the weakest link?

501 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:32pm

She needs more sleep, yet she's ready and perfectly coiffed at 3 am to stop people's homes from being foreclosed? She keeps vampire hours.

502 friarstale  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:36pm

"I was not as accurate as I have been in the past"

oh, that was clever, Hillary
veddy clever!

503 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:37pm
504 ornery elephant  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:39pm

Hillary, why don't you just say that you lied about the trip to Bosnia instead of trying to play the American people to be an idiot? oh now, she's blaming her lies on lack of sleep - what is she going to do when she's President and she's been up for 36 hours straight looking at Iranian nukes pointed at us?

505 bikermailman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:39pm

not as accurate as she should have been. Went to all those countries, as a typical 1st lady

506 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:52pm

re: #491 jcm

Anyone who has every been shot at remembers.

PERIOD!

Damn right. 1 upding for you, pal.

507 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:54pm

So, has anyone asked Obama about his endorsement from Hamas thug apologist/fundraiser Ahmed Yousef? Would that be a wee bit much to ask?

508 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:35:58pm

Two liars arguing about lies.

Meanwhile, there's a war going on, the economy is tanking and we've got al quaeda et al.

509 Sabra412  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:02pm

Cackle!

510 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:10pm

Obambi - "she has a strong record", oh yeah. More lies.

511 Beach Lover  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:10pm

: I said some things that I knew werenot in keeping with what I knew had happened"

uh? does that mean she knew she lied?!

512 GeeWiz  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:14pm

Here ya go...Liar, Liar

513 HelloDare  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:17pm

Hillary: "...Didn't jive with what I knew to be the truth."
Bet that happens all the time.

514 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:22pm

re: #496 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm not getting anything.

It's what I would expect from Channel 6.

515 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:25pm

Hermann Goring was a solider also and I am sure he cared for Germany, just not German Jews.

516 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:27pm

Obama is given a softball, and lets it go by.

What a wuss.

517 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:36pm

Two first term Senators arguing about who has the most experience.
Classic.

518 jcm  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:48pm

Up thread --->

519 sbvft contributor  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:49pm

they're both deeply flawed candidates. McCain's a shoe in.

520 gordan the fisherman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:56pm

New thread!

521 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:03pm
522 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:15pm

re: #519 sbvft contributor

they're both deeply flawed candidates. McCain's a shoe in.

I hope.

523 Palandine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:16pm

re: #497 Sol Roth

Neither of those thankfully. I had to pour out a 2/3rd of a bottle of Glenlivet last week :(.

Why didn't you tell me? I'd happily have the shame of drinking Glenlivet and getting rid of it for you.

524 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:17pm

re: #493 iceman

did not mispeak but "was not accurate" re bosnia

more sleep or stop lying

More sleep? She said it on 3 SEPARATE OCCASIONS, on different days!

525 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:22pm

re: #513 HelloDare

Hillary: "...Didn't jive with what I knew to be the truth."
Bet that happens all the time.


She learned well from Bill.

526 MarkX  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:32pm

re: #498 LA-Lawyer

Impossible to keep up, the speed of these posts!
A country lawyer, by the way, MarkX

LOL, no apology is necessary. There are a lot of attorneys here.

527 OldLineTexan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:37pm

We're in two wars.

It's a mistake to be "obsessed with errors".

"Change"

528 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:42pm

re: #466 yesandno

That is the view most of Hillary and Barry's voters usually have of the important people in their lives. Just getting them ready.

529 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:47pm

Keeps talking about what his plans are, but he doesn't have any track record. Now it's back to the 1920s and the Dems are planning more Smoot Hawley protectionism. How wonderful.

530 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:48pm

Income inequality is such a sham. The poor have gotten richer. The rich just get a ton richer.

Capitalism.

531 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:53pm

re: #21 jcm

B. Hussein and H. Rodham trade straight shots till ones under the table?

STAGGERDOME! Two men enter, one man heaves!

532 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:01pm

Our country is such a mess. What'll we do, what'll we do? Sob.

533 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:08pm

if he still protects rev wright yet throws his granny under the bus so easily, just imagine what he would do to us, mere citizens of this country.

534 Juan  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:10pm

At least they have hammered Obama about the Elistis comments and Rev. Wright. Even though he danced around them.

535 neocon nony  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:13pm

re: #508 NoSubmission

Two liars arguing about lies.

On the money

536 -RAC  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:17pm

re: #490 bikermailman

Where is this ft fun you speak of?

Where they make the beer.

537 gymnast  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:27pm

Want to know about Reverend WrightHillary? Well Wright black atcha' whitey!

538 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:28pm

yessssssssssssss the flag question!

I'm very impressed with these moderators.

539 livefreeor die  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:40pm

re: #511 Beach Lover

: I said some things that I knew werenot in keeping with what I knew had happened"

uh? does that mean she knew she lied?!

It depends upon what you mean by the word "things".

540 rain of lead  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:53pm

ohhhh, flag question :)

541 Maine's Michael  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:59pm

re: #414 Charles

I have to tell you, a good friend of mine is a very intelligent, otherwise sane and great guy, though a Democrat and a lawyer.

I asked him about Wright. He said "Oh for heaven's sake, Wright is a war hero, who loves his country. You don't actually believe he really means 'God Damn America' do you?"

I said "Dave, I can't believe you are a racist. I'm really shocked."

He: "A racist? Where do you get that from? (highly insulted)."

Me: "You obviously have a different standard for Wright. Soft racism of diminished expectations. He also believes the USA created AIDS to destroy the black race. Is that rhetorical too?"

Silence.

542 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:10pm

Liar!

543 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:11pm

re: #521 buzzsawmonkey

Oops.

544 rightymouse  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:14pm

Income inequality. lol!

He's a great one to talk. Too funny.

545 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:27pm

re: #475 ModerateWolverine

She was tired

But she said, "Ah'm no ways tirrred."

546 svines  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:29pm

re: #497 Sol Roth

I am so torn on whether to guzzle quickly or just pour it out. Well, as a recent member to the Lizard club, I must do the right thing. I'll pour it out.

Damn! Being a lizard it tough sometimes.

547 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:06pm

The flag's too good for Obamanation to wear. I show my patriotism by not showing I'm patriotic.

548 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:23pm

Okay, I think we've established that they're both stone cold liars that live in a world where truth is optional, maybe. So, look over here, I'll tell another whopper, the economy is just like the Great Depression!

/must be why the Dow was up 256 on heavy volume today

549 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:34pm

american flag question--why the change?

i like the questions hopefully they will get to policy soon

550 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:47pm

re: #532 brakes

Our country is such a mess. What'll we do, what'll we do? Sob.

Are ya fishing for a Godfather clip?

551 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:13pm

hillary can't help the resume" enhancement". she is so desperate to appear important, she will risk losing it all,
isn't there a name for this type of behavior?

552 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:20pm

He is supposed to make our lives better?

553 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:21pm

re: #547 eaglewingz08

I used to wear a suit every day, and I realized I should be wearing it after 9/11 anniversary. I thought to myself, "why would I just put it on today?" So I kept it on.

Someone at work actually stopped and asked me if I was a neocon. I was like, you mean patriotic?

He told me I disgusted him and walked away without giving me a chance to verbally destroy him.

Libs are pathetic.

554 zeebeach  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:41pm

Distraction! Drink!

555 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:48pm

Everything is a distraction except for his socialist issues. George is bringing up Ayres, bravo.

556 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:08pm

re: #554 zeebeach

Maybe we should eat a scoop of ice cream every time they say distraction.

557 AndeePanda  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:15pm

They are both full of crap.
That is all.

558 brakes  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:42pm

re: #550 Slumbering Behemoth

Are ya fishing for a Godfather clip?

Actually I've never seen the godfather.

559 profitsbeard  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:36pm

Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.

Pussyfooting around one another.

Now Obama admits he cannot control himself with terrorists (VIZ- mad bomber Ayers):

"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood... ."

560 zeebeach  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:10pm

#556

Yes, I won't make it through this if "distraction" means "drink", will I?

561 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:41pm

re: #559 profitsbeard

Wow. What a shitty neighborhood. Full of commies and terrorists.

562 mikeinmd  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:07pm

I'm too stupid to understand the nuance that is Obama.
/

I'm smart enough not to believe anything Hillary says.

TV off. Shower, book, and a glass of wine.

I win.

563 ModerateWolverine  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:21pm

On to the next threat!

564 iceman  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:52pm

desperate to appear important, she will risk losing it all,
isn't there a name for this type of behavior?

-------------------------------------------------- ------

narscissitic personality disorder

565 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:42pm

re: #558 brakes

I saw it for the first time about a year ago (give or take a few months). It is a very good film.

The phrasing of your comment had me thinking you were be parodying that scene.

566 guzziguy  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:31pm

re: #489 HelloDare

Only woman in the world who confuses a bouquet of flowers with sniper fire.

Well, she's been married to Bill for a lot of years.

567 profitsbeard  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:09pm

re: #561 Sifty

Wow. What a shitty neighborhood. Full of commies and terrorists.

And lawyers out the wazoo.

Obama is slipping out of every noose, so far.

He must be part eel.

568 RedFox84  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:32pm

At the risk of being 40/60 evil/stupid, I have to say that for all of Senator McCain's faults, he's probably going to rack up a 60%-40% victory in the popular vote against either of these clowns.

569 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:58pm

This is the first debate out of a thousand where the Obamanation was asked tougher questions than Shrillary with follow ups that didn't allow him to just orate and run.

570 FrogMarch  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:17pm

Donate to Rev. Wright err I mean Hurricane Katrina.

571 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:31pm

Shrillary is cut and run no matter what. Ideological CinC, God Forbid.

572 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:51pm

I'm getting the annotated Cliff's Notes version of the debate right here. Why would I waste my time tuning into this condescending excrement at 9 pm, when ABC benefits from it?

/drunk is coming...

573 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:50pm

Iraq as the 1930s Czechoslovakia. Thanks Hillary. What moral authority will she have by selling out our allies and strengthening Al Queda. There are many 'scenarios', yes one is victory, the other is cowardice.

574 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:29pm

Four years of Euro talks on Iran and they don't know what US policy is? Extending US deterrence to Israel, McCain should match.

575 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:43pm

The Bush policy on Iran was the democratic policy, except with a threat of force thrown on.

576 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:23pm

re: #370 -rac

Fat Tire is so-so, 1554 is much better.

Boulevard Brewing's product line is as good as I've ever seen, and I've done lots of Fat Tire, being less than 50 miles from where it's brewed.

But 1554 and Fat Tire are two entirely different products.

577 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:15pm

What deterrent backup and who would choose a security umbrella with us, when we're cutting and running from our ally in Iraq?

578 RedFox84  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:17pm

Barack's amazing eloquence in saying "umm" and "ahh" just inspires me to go out and change the world.

579 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:03pm

re: #568 RedFox84

At the risk of being 40/60 evil/stupid, I have to say that for all of Senator McCain's faults, he's probably going to rack up a 60%-40% victory in the popular vote against either of these clowns.

That's about right.

580 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:28pm

re: #342 bikermailman

A quote came out the other day. He said that you aren't going to change anything unless you get mad and angry. Fits with his Alinsky ties. I wrote about it yesterday.

Here's a campaign ad for Obamanation:

Picture of a Sith lord, holding an extended light saber. The Sith Lord speaks:

Angry at Whitey? Angry at your boss? Angry at the Man?
Use your anger.
Turn to the dark side.
Vote Obama!

581 spank ya bery much  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:35pm

Sweet! Made it in! I brought a cooler full of Bell's Oberon from sunny (today) Michigan, drink up all!

582 spank ya bery much  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:03pm

Lets try the link feature.......Oberon

583 Alexander  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:55pm

*crawls out of lizard shell*

584 spank ya bery much  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:48pm

re: #583 Alexander

Howdy, I think we're new lizards on a dead thread.....DAMMIT, my Red Wings just got scored on.......

585 Alexander  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:31:33pm

How many hatchlings, Charles?

586 Old Tanker  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:41:22pm

Welcome all!

Spank ya, I feel your pain, I'm dying with the Wings right now....and Oberon? Where you at in Michigan?

587 americanmale[deleted]  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:49:36pm
588 Sifty  Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:01:02pm

re: #587 americanmale

pass


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