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Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:35:32 pm PDT
Another thread as Barack dodges another set of questions about his 20-year association with Rev. Wright, and Hillary apologizes for saying she dodged sniper fire. Whole lotta dodgin’ goin’ on.
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:13pm |
Obama should have practiced. He's bombing.
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:22pm |
The graph was down when she was speaking, went up when Stephie talked...
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:36:46pm |
re: #2 song_and_dance_man
They both still suck.
no, she licks...ask her muslim aide
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HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:20pm |
What is that green line measuring. Because right now it seems to be measuring bullshit.
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:23pm |
re: #7 DesertSage
I'm getting really sick of this guys voice.
me too. such a load of hot air.
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Psaturn Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:24pm |
Obama is bombing and yet several polls say he is going up...who to believe?
Of course I don't believe what Obama says either...
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EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:41pm |
Obama "Economy is teetering!"
Change.Hope.Trust him. A junior Senator.
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williwonka Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:51pm |
Clinton just said she can re lie on her experience. I believe her!
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:52pm |
that graph....it hits the ceiling when he's talking about the bad economy
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HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:37:58pm |
The more he says nothing, the higher the green line goes.
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:00pm |
We're "obsessed with errors." Yeah. Stopping a big one from Chicago.
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Opilio Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:04pm |
Income inequality? I thought I read somewhere that the Obamas' pulled in $4mil in 2007.
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itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:12pm |
It's up now? Audience must be terminally bored. I sure am.
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:23pm |
re: #24 snowcrash
We're obsessed because we notice his errors?
We're distracted
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:28pm |
I'm questioning your patriotism Barry
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sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:39pm |
liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar
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Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:40pm |
re: #6 Bloodnok
Head tilt.....increasing
My dog does that when he's confused...
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snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:50pm |
The flag pin. Oh boy these are GOOD questions!
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:51pm |
Obama does not disown the American flag.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:53pm |
He reveres the flag? Liar! You already said differently.
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:38:59pm |
He could also just as easily be standing in Syria.
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:16pm |
re: #30 bikermailman
We're distracted
re: #30 bikermailman
We're distracted
DISTRACTED! DRINK!
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:21pm |
my story. yeah, we know, your story...
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FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:24pm |
re: #8 song_and_dance_man
'We're recorded everyday' - B. Hussein
It's simple, tell the truth and there's no problem.
youtube, and the internet in general, is the 500 pound gorilla, and they know it
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:30pm |
OH GAWD.
"I was born a poor white child in darkest Kansas"
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jamgarr Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:33pm |
re: #41 song_and_dance_man
This will go on for over another hour.
One can only hope
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Charles Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:34pm |
Ten hits from Reuters? What are they looking for?
Hang on, checking the log...
Here's the page they were going to:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:47pm |
What's with the green line? Seriously, what does it measure? Anybody...
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DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:49pm |
I am surprised he didnt say the American flag is the seed of slavery, you clingons.
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:51pm |
wait, it's a horrible country! your wife says so!
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DesertSage Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:39:55pm |
He is so full of shit!
I can't stand listening to him!
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:02pm |
Helping veterans by voting "present" 130 times. B.S. Obama.
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Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:04pm |
re: #25 Opilio
Income inequality? I thought I read somewhere that the Obamas' pulled in $4mil in 2007.
And gave a whopping 5% to charity, and most of that was to HIS CHURCH!
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:08pm |
re: #57 Charles
Ten hits from Reuters? What are they looking for?
Hang on, checking the log...
Here's the page they were going to:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I smell a story brewing....
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:26pm |
Hey Barry, leave Kansas out of your life story.
You were not born in Kansas.
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Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:29pm |
Answers the flag question with his "I was born a poor black child" speech, then flogs his "patriotism" by promisining to surrender and soak the rich.
Patriotism. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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LoFlyer Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:29pm |
They are actually asking some hard questions. The answers are BS.
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snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:37pm |
He supports the flag that's why he wants to end the war. WHAT does that mean?
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:38pm |
Obama comes down to the viewer.
The viewer has to believe to buy into Obama and forgive his many vague contradictions.
Thing is, once you see him clear relief, you can't go back to believing.
As his negatives climb (at %49 now) he will crumble.
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Opilio Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:42pm |
Upward mobility... But only as upward as we find acceptable.
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:53pm |
I question his experience first. I'd question his patriotism second.
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rawmuse Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:40:59pm |
Notice he no longer uses the phrase "in all its faults" after the word "America". Somebody coached him on that one.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:01pm |
And the left says W cannot speak? BO is much worse.
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sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:08pm |
my Dad is a disabled veteran. thinks you're an *ss Obama.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:19pm |
I'm pretty sure he did say he doesn't wear flag pins. Anybody got link?
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:21pm |
It's not the job of the Pres to make people's lives better, you Marxist
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Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:29pm |
Another Hannity question by Steffie! Ayers.
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jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:33pm |
You love this country, but you work for Alinsky style organization bent on overturning our government.
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sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:33pm |
GREAT QUESTIONS. UNBELIEVABLE. FINALLY!
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itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:35pm |
OK, the moderators (!?) are asking about all this crap, and I'm offended by it, but I'd be offended if they didn't ask, too. The problem is the candidates who HAVE to have these questions asked.
Obabmi, don't talk about "manufactured issues", too meta.
... oh, and here we go with Ayres, ...
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:36pm |
re: #80 Crimsonfisted
And the left says W cannot speak? BO is much worse.
No 'prompter
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:37pm |
BULLSH*T BHO, I don't believe you! I don't think you respect our flag.
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:43pm |
Man, they are hammering Obama. Didn't Stephanopholisaurus work for Clinton?
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Gordan the Fisherman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:50pm |
Weather Underground?
Has the world ended?
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:52pm |
Fadal Shana must have cycled through the resurrection ship too many times. Clonal degeneration.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:41:52pm |
re: #57 Charles
Hmmm... it's a little late to do background checks on your reporters in the field, especially when they have an annoying tendency of operating in very close contact with terrorist groups and state sponsors of terrorism.
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:01pm |
I was never in the room when he bombed.
/
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:11pm |
re: #24 snowcrash
We're obsessed because we notice his errors?
You are forgetting that he has superior judgment to all other candidates.
No legislative record. But superior judgment.
/He's a carpetbagger.
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Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:21pm |
Weather Underground! Guy's a "professor of English." Detestable acts 40 years ago...
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Opilio Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:21pm |
He just said, "When I'm C-in-C". Truly terrifying.
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:24pm |
re: #87 song_and_dance_man
Hey B. Hussein, sing God Bless America.
I have a hunch he can't
Did anyone else hear the battle hymn of the republic on Rush today? awesome...
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lilliew Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:24pm |
Ayers.... wow another hard question. Is George channeling Sean Hannity?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:26pm |
I pledge allegiance to my genitals!
/oh yeah, Obama loves America alright
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:30pm |
Disown the terrorist Obama! You are slipperier than Slick Willie.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:32pm |
re: #87 song_and_dance_man
Hey B. Hussein, sing God Bless America.
I have a hunch he can't
He can sing the muslim call to prayer in perfect ARabic and calls it beautiful.
I prefer Kate Smith belting out God Bless America.
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FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:34pm |
re: #57 Charles
Ten hits from Reuters? What are they looking for?
Hang on, checking the log...
Here's the page they were going to:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
shhhh...
don't scare them off...
they might get anti-tracking software
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sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:35pm |
HE'S GETTING TESTY. HE NO LIKEY QUESTIONS.
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HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:44pm |
Would anybody here go to William Ayers' house for a meeting? Anybody?
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:54pm |
re: #111 lilliew
Ayers.... wow another hard question. Is George channeling Sean Hannity?
yup.
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:54pm |
re: #107 Sabra412
Some of my best friends are terrorists...
LOL
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natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:42:55pm |
Did he just compare Tom Coburn to the Weather Underground?
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Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:09pm |
Charles, will there be follow-on threads for those of us on tape delay to tape-delay comment?
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Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:12pm |
Hussein, you HAVE no AMERICAN values.
Bloody hell, what a chooch!
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nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:13pm |
re: #1 insanity police
Obama should have practiced. He's bombing.
he's the messiah. why should he practice? and for what?
/
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:17pm |
I'm friends with Tom Coburn.
I have lots of racist white Republican friends that are jerks.
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:18pm |
So, I can go hang with the Klansmen from the 60s when I was just born?
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jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:19pm |
You don't have to hang with terrorists or hate spouting preachers.
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Opilio Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:20pm |
Who are the morons driving the green line? Obama could fart and the damn thing would go to 100.
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:35pm |
You had more dealings with him than as an 8 year old yute. Sickem' Hillzebub!
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Gordan the Fisherman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:57pm |
LOL...Hillary laying the smackdown!
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Beach Lover Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:43:59pm |
Hillary doesn't act like she's sure she wants to go down this path
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AndeePanda Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:05pm |
They are still full of crap.
That is all, again.
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mean Gene Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:06pm |
re: #66 bikermailman
I smell a story brewing....
What are they trying to do?
Conflate that old thing with the Bilal Hussain story?
Or are they both about the same guy who just for freed?
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jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:08pm |
Step-on-all-off-us is a Clintonista, he's getting directions from BJ his old boss.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:09pm |
re: #125 natbumpo
Did he just compare Tom Coburn to the Weather Underground?
YUP.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:14pm |
re: #66 bikermailman
Yes, and I suspect the story is going to be how right-wing bloggers rushed to judgment over the Reuters reporter's death and how he worked with terrorists despite evidence.... or something along those lines.
Heck, we saw it the other day with Bilal Hussein and the AP. He was granted amnesty under a new Iraqi law (and a US benchmark to boot), but that doesn't mean he was innocent of the charges and make his detention any less appropriate. The AP ignored why he was released and focused instead on his release to take another hit at the military.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:16pm |
re: #138 Beach Lover
Hillary doesn't act like she's sure she wants to go down this path
Absolutely but she should,.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:27pm |
Wow, Obama just made quite the "equivalence" jujitsu move.... Obama has to be more naive than I have given him credit for....
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HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:31pm |
The problem with Hillary bringing up Ayers, everybody will think she's lying.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:43pm |
What a STUPID comment. Don't run anyone. Idiot.
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Tarkus289 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:55pm |
Meanwhile, you know Hillary is a big fan of the weather underground.
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:55pm |
Republicans should pologize and not run for President?
Huh?
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:57pm |
Did they just collaborate to derail the terrorism connection?
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:44:58pm |
re: #141 mean Gene
What are they trying to do?
Conflate that old thing with the Bilal Hussain story?
Or are they both about the same guy who just for freed?
channel the story about Charles being the worst of the web
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Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:05pm |
Ooh, Hillary's been huffing glue! She wants the Republicans to sit this one out in shame.
Heh.
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jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:09pm |
re: #152 buzzsawmonkey
"I could no more reject William Ayers than I could reject my pastor the Reverend Wright. But Grandma goes under the bus."
D+ng!
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:11pm |
which one of you bastidges rummaged through Hill's "baggage"?
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:11pm |
They won't do that, because the Dems don't have a viable candidate Hillary!
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natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:17pm |
..."yes, but George, just because I had lunch with Yasser Arafat and babysat his children, doesn't mean I support his state sponsored terrorism"
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EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:19pm |
"Disaster of the Bush/Cheney years!" from Hillary and the audience wants to get up and cheer.
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:25pm |
re: #119 sbvft contributor
HE'S GETTING TESTY. HE NO LIKEY QUESTIONS.
Messiahs don't like inquisitions.
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ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:27pm |
" I think the Repubs should apologize for the Bush/Cheney years and just not run anyone in the election"
This is the smartest woman in the world?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:28pm |
re: #121 HelloDare
Would anybody here go to William Ayers' house for a meeting? Anybody?
Kathleen Soliah lives in my neighborhood.
/wouldn't hang with her
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:29pm |
re: #129 nyc redneck
he's the messiah. why should he practice? and for what?
/
I guess the nomination is his anyways. So he's just mad he has to debate her at this point. He can coast to the nomination.
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FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:30pm |
it's boring because neither wants to risk trying for the knockout
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:31pm |
Didn't Hillary defend some terrorists/anarchists at one time too>?
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:33pm |
re: #163 CyanSnowHawk
They won't do that, because the Dems don't have a viable candidate Hillary!
And they are not the party of SURRENDER!
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jamgarr Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:39pm |
I see your board membership and raise you a pardon
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:40pm |
re: #155 NoSubmission
Republicans should pologize and not run for President?
Huh?
actually, I congratulate her for the creativity.
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nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:48pm |
re: #73 snowcrash
He supports the flag that's why he wants to end the war. WHAT does that mean?
"i support the flag. that's why i don't wear one" bho
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jopa416 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:52pm |
Hillary is an idiot. "The republicans should just apoligise for Bush and then run nobody". Did they do that after Carter.
What a moron she is.
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Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:55pm |
Don't forget the FALN terrorists pardoned to get the Puerto Rican vote in NY, Barry!
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itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:45:59pm |
good one, bambi, "Bubba pardoned weather underground"
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neocon hippie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:00pm |
How did Obama answer the question about Ayers? I missed it.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:07pm |
re: #158 Palandine
Ooh, Hillary's been huffing glue! She wants the Republicans to sit this one out in shame.
Heh.
She's been huffing Po.
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sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:24pm |
H brought up the weather underground. how will the NYTimes report on some of these questiions tomorrow?
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Beach Lover Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:29pm |
If you go thru Hillary's baggage, you'd better wear rubber gloves
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Grammy Cracker Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:31pm |
re: #160 HelloDare
Hillary baggage. Yuck.
That's redundant! LOL
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NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:39pm |
HAVE ANYONE MENTIONED ISLAMIC TERROR YET?
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Opilio Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:39pm |
I can't listen to this. His voice grates on my soul.
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:40pm |
Osama just snarked Hitlery through Bill pardoning a weatherundergounder?
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:43pm |
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nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:51pm |
re: #111 lilliew
Ayers.... wow another hard question. Is George channeling Sean Hannity?
yes. sean threw those questions out yesterday
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:57pm |
re: #177 jamgarr
I see your board membership and raise you a pardon
That's funny.
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jamgarr Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:57pm |
But, but, but . . . Iraq - Economy - Frustration - Healthcare!
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livefreeor die Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:46:59pm |
re: #184 itellu3times
good one, bambi, "Bubba pardoned weather underground"
Nice segway into yet another Clinton scandal. He should follow-up by asking her what she did with the silverware and furniture she stole.
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Charles Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:00pm |
Obama says he can take a punch.
Hillary missed an opportunity there, to haul off and sock him.
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itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:23pm |
re: #192 NoSubmission
HAVE ANYONE MENTIONED ISLAMIC TERROR YET?
Yeah, Bambi wants to run away from it.
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:40pm |
re: #193 Opilio
Buck up there, Opilio. You have 7 more months of it.
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neocon hippie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:41pm |
This whole thing is a farce. Neither of them will give a straight answer, and everyone knows Obama will get the nomination
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:43pm |
re: #194 Sol Roth
Osama just snarked Hitlery through Bill pardoning a weatherundergounder?
snark snark snark snark snark Iran.
I'd much rather have McCain.
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Tarkus289 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:51pm |
Hillary defended black panthers back in the day.
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ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:47:57pm |
Anyone notice how when Hillary smacks down Obama, she looks down or off to the side like , careful not to come even close to eye contact with him, but when Obama lays into her, she stares at him and glares?
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itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:03pm |
re: #200 livefreeor die
Nice segway into yet another Clinton scandal. He should follow-up by asking her what she did with the silverware and furniture she stole.
And all the W keys from the computer keyboards!
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:11pm |
re: #174 NoSubmission
Didn't Hillary defend some terrorists/anarchists at one time too>?
Black Panthers. Defense team she was.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:16pm |
I know it's an ad hominem, but Obama's really starting to sound like a douche bag. Gawd, I'm sick of him.
And I loved his speech at the DNC in '04.
Can't remember what he said, though.
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jamgarr Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:22pm |
re: #186 neocon hippie
How did Obama answer the question about Ayers? I missed it.
"He's just this guy in the 'hood."
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:40pm |
re: #192 NoSubmission
HAVE ANYONE MENTIONED ISLAMIC TERROR YET?
No, because there is no such thing.
/Dims
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:43pm |
re: #208 insanity police
I'm not sure that made any sense. But if Hill and Bomba don't make sense, why should I?
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OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:48pm |
re: #197 brakes
There're running against Bush.
A sure path to failure.
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rain of lead Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:55pm |
another 15 min of this and it's gonna look like a wwe barbed wire cage match
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Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:56pm |
re: #192 NoSubmission
HAVE ANYONE MENTIONED ISLAMIC TERROR YET?
NO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST FOR THEM. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS.
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nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:48:57pm |
re: #174 NoSubmission
Didn't Hillary defend some terrorists/anarchists at one time too>?
black panthers, who now support hussein
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Fenboy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:07pm |
re: #220 song_and_dance_man
Man I hate IE, but must use it now to see the debate.
I'm using Firefox with no problems here.
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experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:19pm |
re: #8 song_and_dance_man
'We're recorded everyday' - B. Hussein
It's simple, tell the truth and there's no problem.
But what about the nuance?
/
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snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:24pm |
re: #222 rain of lead
another 15 min of this and it's gonna look like a wwe barbed wire cage match
I can only hope!
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lilliew Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:28pm |
re: #215 Noam Sayin'
I know it's an ad hominem, but Obama's really starting to sound like a douche bag. Gawd, I'm sick of him.
And I loved his speech at the DNC in '04.
Can't remember what he said, though.
Hope... and change?
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bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:34pm |
Steffy made them go to their corners before they started a bitchslapfest
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insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:43pm |
re: #223 Sol Roth
NO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST FOR THEM. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS.
Hill mentioned Obama's church newsletter that featured an article by a Hamas member. That was the closest either of them came.
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MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:47pm |
re: #218 HelloDare
Hillary is adjusting her jock.
Bigger than mine, no doubt.
| 233 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:48pm |
re: #210 ornery elephant
Anyone notice how when Hillary smacks down Obama, she looks down or off to the side like , careful not to come even close to eye contact with him, but when Obama lays into her, she stares at him and glares?
Primary attack for a Medusa.
| 234 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:49pm |
re: #218 HelloDare
Hillary is adjusting her jock.
She needs to unsling the contents and start bashing Osama about the head and neck if she's going to poll upwards.
| 236 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:52pm |
| 237 |
FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:53pm |
here's some Hillary Satire for all to enjoy:
[Link: cruxy.com...]
[Link: cruxy.com...]
[Link: cruxy.com...]
| 238 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:49:56pm |
re: #210 ornery elephant
Anyone notice how when Hillary smacks down Obama, she looks down or off to the side like , careful not to come even close to eye contact with him, but when Obama lays into her, she stares at him and glares?
They are both dishonest.
McCain will eat either one.
| 239 |
livefreeor die Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:11pm |
re: #229 bikermailman
Steffy made them go to their corners before they started a bitchslapfest
But...but...I want a bitchslapfest! Why else would I be following this?
| 241 |
lawhawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:16pm |
Can someone bother to ask a substantive foreign policy question, like on Iraq and Sadr? Maybe ask 'em who they think won in Basra - Sadr or the Iraqi military. Litmus test on whether they're members of the reality-challenged based community.
Then again, we'd have to first figure out if the media subscribes to Sadr winning (and all too many did).
| 242 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:30pm |
I think I'll take a fistfull of this Lunesta they're advertising. Side effects may include bad taste? Debate is even worse that way.
| 243 |
GeeWiz Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:35pm |
Thanks ABC for showing us that neither of these two talking heads are qualified to be POTUS. If they think that this is the best this country has to offer, we are in more trouble than we have ever been in our history. GOD, not only bless us, but please help us!
| 245 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:40pm |
re: #238 karmic_inquisitor
They are both dishonest.
McCain will eat either one.
McCain just has to stand next to 'em and they'll look like midgets.
| 246 |
justdanny Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:43pm |
I have zero tolerance for either of those idiots.
| 247 |
rawmuse Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:44pm |
re: #235 song_and_dance_man
For what its worth this debate has some good stuff if the RNC has the kahonies to use it.
That is so cute. I just adore innocence.
| 248 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:46pm |
At least they aren't pick, pick, picking at Universal healthcare plan differences.
| 249 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:46pm |
re: #222 rain of lead
another 15 min of this and it's gonna look like a wwe barbed wire cage match
They should have taken Vince McMahon up on his offer...
| 250 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:59pm |
re: #238 karmic_inquisitor
They are both dishonest.
McCain will eat either one.
I'm not so sure. He doesn't seem to want to smack them
| 252 |
LanceKates Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:50:59pm |
ok. bought cherry wine and dt. 7up (as well as rum and dt. soda)
No debate for me though.
| 256 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:32pm |
re: #235 song_and_dance_man
For what its worth this debate has some good stuff if the RNC has the kahonies to use it.
cojones, bro.
| 257 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:34pm |
re: #243 GeeWiz
Thanks ABC for showing us that neither of these two talking heads are qualified to be POTUS. If they think that this is the best this country has to offer, we are in more trouble than we have ever been in our history. GOD, not only bless us, but please help us!
My dad always told me that anyone who wants to be President is crazy. I don't expect much from someone shooting for the job.
/cynical.
| 259 |
ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:47pm |
What are the current odds that Charlie will ask this question:
"Senator Clinton, are you supportive of fellow Democrat Jimmy Carter's negotiations with Hamas?"
| 260 |
rawmuse Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:51:49pm |
The worst thing the RNC will come out against Hillary is that she has been seen teeing off from the short tee.
| 262 |
justdanny Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:05pm |
My name is Danny Thomas and I am a McCain Republican.
| 263 |
Noam Sayin' Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:05pm |
re: #228 lilliew
Hope... and change?
Maybe. Of course, I tracked down and saved the speech Zell Miller gave.
You're a shy one, aren't you, Lilliew?
| 264 |
Gordan the Fisherman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:10pm |
They should say "and now for a little surprise" and have McCain come out and stand between them and mop the fricking floor with these two.
| 265 |
Charles Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:11pm |
re: #240 rain of lead
Hey Charles, how many hatchlings so far?
25...
| 267 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:13pm |
re: #248 snowcrash
At least they aren't pick, pick, picking at Universal healthcare plan differences.
No mention of the Massachusetts plan going off the cost rails...
| 268 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:15pm |
re: #236 ModerateWolverine
You mean like this?
Man, I'd give up my 401 (k), what left of it, to see PIAPS do that to Obambi
| 270 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:24pm |
re: #251 buzzsawmonkey
I vote for a Sadr but wiser Iraq policy.
Bush was right.
| 271 |
yesandno Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:26pm |
What was that song?
Nothin' from nothin'
Something like that. A waste of 50 minutes I will never get back...I am ditching the rest of this.....even American Idol would look cerebral compared to this.
| 272 |
Sifty Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:52:36pm |
re: #201 Charles
he may be a boxer, but he can't bowl for shit.
| 273 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:00pm |
"man/woman on the street" questions are GARBAGE
| 274 |
natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:00pm |
I love that they run parts of the constitution so Hillary and Barak can read it for the first time.
"oh shoot...you mean I like, RUN the military?" Ummmmmm.......
| 275 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:01pm |
Oh hey, good question! Actual plan to get out of Iraq ...
| 276 |
FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:02pm |
more Hillary satire
and to be fair, here's one for Michelle Obama:
| 277 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:04pm |
Which one of you will surrender first, and how abjectly?
| 280 |
jopa416 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:26pm |
I just saw a commercial where McCain is going to interviewed by George Steffiboynopolis in order, I guess, to provide "balance" to this debate. At least they could have selected someone who was not a Clinton staffer to do this "balanced' reporting. Asses.
| 281 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:27pm |
re: #258 sbvft contributor
carbon offset this deer park
Deer Park?
| 282 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:27pm |
re: #253 song_and_dance_man
On behalf of the Lizard Army I offer this laurel and hearty handshake to our new hatchlings.
"The new sheriff is a near?"
| 283 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:30pm |
Iraq. Let's see how Commanders Hillzebub and Osama will lose the war for us.
| 286 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:52pm |
They are still running against George Bush.
| 287 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:53:52pm |
Ahhh, I support the troops but want to end the war and shame their mission...nice talking point
| 289 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:01pm |
Thanks for the tip, whoever it was, to use IE for the live feed from Philly. It wouldn't work for me in Firefox, but IE's working it.
Just in time for Hillary to talk about the military.
| 292 |
sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:05pm |
i must say, even though he's a member of the MSM, Charlie Gibson is pretty fair.
| 293 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:08pm |
Genocide in Iraq if we leave? No problem for either of them. Change Change Change.
How will either of them sleep at night?
| 294 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:14pm |
re: #201 Charles
Obama says he can take a punch.
Hillary missed an opportunity there, to haul off and sock him.
She could have shown American he has a glass jaw!
| 296 |
FriarsTale Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:20pm |
"... no matter what?"
"Yes, Charlie, I am."
oh, BS
| 297 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:22pm |
I can surrender faster! No,you can't I can. No, I can, 60 days! I can do it in 30 days!
| 298 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:26pm |
And all the terrorists are cheering her now.
| 300 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:32pm |
Hillary has nothing but contempt for the military and won't take their advice.
/then again, we already knew that
| 302 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:41pm |
re: #289 Sarge1984
Thanks for the tip, whoever it was, to use IE for the live feed from Philly. It wouldn't work for me in Firefox, but IE's working it.
Just in time for Hillary to talk about the military.
me too, thanks, It was real hard to see on the radio
| 303 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:42pm |
I know better than the military about how to handle Iraq.
KNEEL BEFORE ME, FOR I AM HILLARY!
| 305 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:58pm |
Civilian control of the military. Yes Hillary likes that.
| 306 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:54:59pm |
Withdraw in 60 days? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? This woman is delusional!
| 311 |
mikeinmd Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:26pm |
Hope they ask about Gen Patraeus testifying last week. Or did I miss it. I'm not watching, can't stand the nuance of Obama or the Hilldebeast. May they scratch each others eyes out.
| 312 |
sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:26pm |
re: #281 OldLineTexan
Deer Park?
Deer Park just ran a "Climate Change"/Gorebot like commercial here at the lpcal Philly affiliate
| 313 |
livefreeor die Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:27pm |
re: #293 insanity police
Genocide in Iraq if we leave? No problem for either of them. Change Change Change.
How will either of them sleep at night?
Hillary does not sleep at night. That's when she wanders the earth nourishing herself with the blood of the unfortunate souls who get in her way.
| 314 |
mean Gene Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:28pm |
re: #306 Miss Trixie
Withdraw in 60 days? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? This woman is delusional!
Isn't even the Pope against that?
| 315 |
neocon nony Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:30pm |
Lets see if the success of the surge is even mentioned.
| 318 |
jaunte Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:38pm |
re: #306 Miss Trixie
It'll take two years to pack up the equipment.
| 321 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:43pm |
Great question! Do you know better than Petreaus? Um, no. Neither of you do, neither of you know nothing.
| 322 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:49pm |
She tried to volunteer for the Marines ahh Army....
She has military experience.
| 323 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:51pm |
re: #295 jaunte
It's a gas. Usually unidentified.
In Texas, Deer Park is the home of MANY refineries.
| 324 |
Sifty Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:52pm |
re: #293 insanity police
They will sleep soundly on a bed of Chinese money.
| 325 |
Grammy Cracker Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:53pm |
re: #301 Lucius Septimius
plus ça change.
Plus CaCa!
| 326 |
Bloodnok Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:54pm |
Within 60 days.......(sound of terrorist day-planners being flipped open)
| 327 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:54pm |
She won't stand for insubordination.
Hilda, what about the SITUATION?
Is she that stupid? Yep.
| 328 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:57pm |
re: #313 livefreeor die
Hillary does not sleep at night. That's when she wanders the earth nourishing herself with the blood of the unfortunate souls who get in her way.
FOTFLOL!
| 329 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:59pm |
Sixty days isn't logistically feasible unless we truly cut and run, leaving all our stuff there for the terrorists to use.
| 330 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:55:59pm |
History will be kind to BOTH Presidents Bush.
| 334 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:20pm |
Memo to Hildebeast:
STFU and STFD.
That is all.
| 335 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:28pm |
re: #306 Miss Trixie
Withdraw in 60 days? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? This woman is delusional!
Run... run away fast.... faster.....
| 336 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:30pm |
re: #294 DownRightMeanAmerican
She could have shown American he has a glass jaw!
Let Mac do it.
| 337 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:31pm |
re: #324 Sifty
They will sleep soundly on a bed of Chinese money.
Sad, but true.
| 338 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:32pm |
Of course no one can predict what will happen with 100% confidence. That's why you need judgement.
| 339 |
ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:33pm |
Hillary: "It's only by our withdrawl of troops that the Iraqis will find the way to live up to their responsibilities that millions of Iraqis will die within the next six months and I will then blame that on George Bush"
| 340 |
natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:34pm |
re: #322 jcm
Yeah well, she ran from a helicopter under sniper.....oh wait.
| 341 |
Noam Sayin' Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:35pm |
re: #310 song_and_dance_man
And to think these two are close to becoming president.
Stop saying that!
*shudder*
| 342 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:36pm |
re: #326 Bloodnok
Within 60 days.......(sound of terrorist day-planners being flipped open)
LOL
| 343 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:38pm |
No one can predict what will happen.
Excuse me?
/think oil's expensive at $115 bbl?
| 344 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:43pm |
re: #320 brakes
She is convinced. That's all that matters.
Amen!
| 345 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:43pm |
Begin paying attention to all the other problems we have.
| 347 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:56:48pm |
A strong position in the world. By withdrawing from Iraq.
Hillary
/ Nothing says strength like surrender
| 350 |
Lucius Septimius Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:01pm |
re: #313 livefreeor die
Hillary does not sleep at night. That's when she wanders the earth nourishing herself with the blood of the unfortunate souls who get in her way.
Unicorn blood -- the only thing that sustains her ...
| 352 |
LoFlyer Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:06pm |
A real Iraq policy question! Hillary's pulling out no matter what! What BS! "No one can predict what will happen!"
| 353 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:07pm |
Too many troops in Iraq
Not enough troops in Afghanistan
This porridge is too hot
| 354 |
rain of lead Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:07pm |
we're getting out and I don't care how many Iraqi's die to do it
| 356 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:11pm |
Just a start in 60 days, per the plan someone will write for her.
Just follow the yellow spine road.
| 358 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:13pm |
re: #329 Sarge1984
Sixty days isn't logistically feasible unless we truly cut and run, leaving all our stuff there for the terrorists to use.
Precisely. Dunkirk.
| 359 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:15pm |
re: #351 NoSubmission
Anyone mention North Korea or Iran yet?
Not just yet
| 360 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:16pm |
Feh -
Daughter's got the Colbert dillwick on - just finished a fawning rimjob on Obama's wife, slowly trying to reintegrate her into the media after her share of stupidity last month...what a load of crapola.
| 362 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:18pm |
I don't care how many people die as long as I'm get to be president.
| 364 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:24pm |
Poor George is sitting in the kiddie chair and table.
| 365 |
sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:29pm |
re: #330 experiencedtraveller
History will be kind to BOTH Presidents Bush.
I disagree. On Iraq, he will be proven him right. Domestically, he's a BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
| 366 |
mikeinmd Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:29pm |
re: #322 jcm
She tried to volunteer for the Marines ahh Army....
She has military experience.
Wasn't it bad eyesight ?
Couldn't see the bullets whizzing past her head or something ?
| 368 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:31pm |
I'm not watching. I can't stand the cackle.
Q for those of you who are - do the ABC questions seem easy on her?
| 371 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:43pm |
keep talking 60 days withdrawal bs. you idiots.
| 372 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:56pm |
Obambi is giving orders now.
I will command the generals.
God save us all!
| 374 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:57:59pm |
re: #314 mean Gene
Isn't even the Pope against that?
I believe so but don't quote me on that. The sheer idiocy is breathtaking on the part of Hildebeast and Hussein.
:rolls eyes:
They just don't get it.
| 375 |
rawmuse Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:02pm |
All this damn military spending is interfering with our plans for redistribution of income by our favorite government nihilists. The ones with comb-overs.
| 377 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:06pm |
re: #368 FrogMarch
I'm not watching. I can't stand the cackle.
Q for those of you who are - do the ABC questions seem easy on her?
Not at all. They're doing a great job, actually.
| 378 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:07pm |
re: #326 Bloodnok
Within 60 days.......(sound of terrorist day-planners being flipped open)
Best line of the night
| 379 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:12pm |
Let the military fight the freaking war, you idiots!
| 380 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:13pm |
re: #343 Killian Bundy
Excuse me?
/think oil's expensive at $115 bbl?
But Obama will lower gas prices because he doesn't take oil money.
He has said as much.
/Did I mention he has superior judgment?
| 381 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:13pm |
re: #362 HelloDare
I don't care how many people die as long as I'm get to be president.
They sure didn't care about the cambodians
| 382 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:20pm |
What makes them think we can sustain our troops in Afghanistan if we lose in Iraq?
| 383 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:21pm |
re: #333 jaunte
I'm just over to the west, upwind!
I grew up right at 45 and South Belt.
| 384 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:21pm |
Can you imagine how Iraqi soldiers must feel hearing this?
| 385 |
Cartman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:25pm |
Head-choppers across the globe are just salivating at the prospect of either of these two in the Oval Office.
| 387 |
neocon nony Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:41pm |
This is like an electoral hallucination. Two people promising they will surrender a war we are currently winning, as a form of asking for votes. And half the country can't decide which retreat plan to support.
| 389 |
NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:46pm |
Run from Iraq in an orderly fashion. Tail tucked firmly between legs.
| 390 |
Bloodnok Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:48pm |
Bad mission, but performed brilliantly!
Caesar is all things to all men! (It must be hell in there).
| 391 |
wolfie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:48pm |
re: #295 jaunte
It's a gas. Usually unidentified.
Change?
| 393 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:51pm |
As ... was it Steffie? said about Bubba's executive orders: stroke of the pen, law of the land, pretty neat. If Hilda or Bambi say there are no jihadis, boom, there are no jihadis.
| 394 |
Luigi Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:54pm |
"We will have our combat troops out. We will not have permanent bases there."
That does not mean leaving.
| 396 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:58:56pm |
Obama knows nothing about being Commander and Chief. Both him and Hill are laughable when they talk about leading the military. They are like kids pretending. God help us all if either of them wins.
| 399 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:10pm |
re: #384 HelloDare
Can you imagine how Iraqi soldiers must feel hearing this?
Well according to a CNN interview of about 15 troops, they definitely want a democrat.
/sarc off
| 401 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:12pm |
re: #379 Sarge1984
Let the military fight the freaking war, you idiots!
Hey! These two senators know better than you, you bitter Bible-thumping gun-hugging yokel!
| 402 |
beachkatie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:17pm |
re: #371 nyc redneck
keep talking 60 days withdrawal bs. you idiots.
Sharia come after the troops made to come home?
| 403 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:22pm |
The Cambodians are an excuse to praise the brave Vietnamese troops that defeated the Khmer Rouge.
| 406 |
NoSubmission Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:28pm |
re: #372 MarkX
Obambi is giving orders now.
I will command the generals.
God save us all!
Too frightening to even contemplate.
| 409 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:36pm |
The President sets the mission.
Translation:
/if Israel is literally being overrun militarily, don't expect Obama to lift a finger
| 410 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:37pm |
re: #382 Sorge
What makes them think we can sustain our troops in Afghanistan if we lose in Iraq?
Because Islamists will be nice.
| 411 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:38pm |
Israel? I'm surprised Obama doesn't correct him and call it "Palestine."
| 413 |
Sifty Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:41pm |
re: #360 apb1
I could have lived many lives without that visual. Thanks. LOL
| 414 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:48pm |
re: #396 insanity police
Obama knows nothing about being Commander and Chief. Both him and Hill are laughable when they talk about leading the military. They are like kids pretending. God help us all if either of them wins.
Yeah, but he watch McHale's Navy as a child.
| 415 |
WayDownSouthInBama Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:49pm |
Whole lotta dodgin’ goin’ on.
Yeah,I'm dogin' the whole debate.
| 416 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:54pm |
re: #357 Sarge1984
Wow.
Just. Wow.
I'm with you my dear. Bloody hell.
| 417 |
svines Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:59pm |
Hillary and Barakacaca are both insane. Isn't that what they call it when you keep lying over and over and expect a different reaction than the one you keep getting?
If Hillary had been hit in the head by one of those non existent snipers all you would have heard is a giant hissing sound of the helium escaping.
| 418 |
natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 5:59:59pm |
"We continue to see Anti-American sentiment all through the Middle East"....like with that whole taking of our embassy in Iran
| 419 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:02pm |
Oh so the buck stops with Obama when he is POTUS, Bush doesn't get the same respect, what a egocentric asshole.
| 421 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:23pm |
TACTICS!?!?
The CINC has absolutely no business being involved in tactics. Strategy, yes, tactics, no. Tactics is on the ground, in contact, what you do. Brigade, battalion, company, platoon, squad level.
Two idiots addressing something they're clueless about.
Oh, yeah, except for the esteemed senator from New York that dodged sniper fire.
| 422 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:26pm |
re: #414 MarkX
Yeah, but he watch McHale's Navy as a child.
He's got more experience than I gave him credit for.
| 423 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:27pm |
Dear Iran ,, here is what we will GIVE you if you promise not to bomb Israel ,,,,,, please ,,, PRETTY PLEASE ,,,,, With Sugar on it !
| 424 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:34pm |
The Obammunist will talk the atomics out of the Iraniums. Oh boy.
| 425 |
Lucius Septimius Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:35pm |
re: #358 karmic_inquisitor
Precisely. Dunkirk.
But of course -- we ought to leave those weapons to our moral betters so in future the can defend themselves against our racist imperialist neo-colonialist crusader Christofascist aggression. It would only be decent.
| 426 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:35pm |
re: #384 HelloDare
Can you imagine how Iraqi soldiers must feel hearing this?
"Habib, I opposed burkhas, but look at THAT! We are on the wrong side!"
| 428 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:41pm |
Whatever is required, but you removed the nuclear option form the table already.
| 429 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:42pm |
"I will do anything required to keep nuclear arms from the Iranians." He won't even denounce Wright.
| 430 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:42pm |
yeah, and you're going to do it by talking to dinnerjacket. He'll kneel before your obamassiahness
| 431 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:46pm |
he can't command anything. his wife called him a purse. she said. she "married an accessory." maybe he's a scarf. he certainly isn't a commander.
| 432 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:48pm |
re: #384 HelloDare
Can you imagine how Iraqi soldiers must feel hearing this?
Imagine how American soldiers feel listening to this. How do you go to work after hearing this crap?
| 433 |
Luigi Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:49pm |
...and I will visit my former pastor for guidance..
| 436 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:53pm |
Obambi is just so f**king clueless.
God save America.
| 437 |
Beach Lover Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:00:53pm |
Oh goodie...give us your nukes and we'll give you carrots and sticks!
that'll work
| 439 |
iceman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:01pm |
re ayers
"the american people are smarter than that"
translation--you are stupid if you believe that there is a problem with the relationship between ayers and obama
| 442 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:19pm |
Oh yeah thats tough talk, we will TELL Iran what we want. Sure, that has worked in the past.
| 443 |
Lucius Septimius Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:29pm |
re: #389 NoSubmission
Run from Iraq in an orderly fashion. Tail tucked firmly between legs.
Well she does keep her candy hidden, as they say.
| 444 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:30pm |
This debate has just turned into a McCain commercial.
| 445 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:32pm |
"an attack that is UNACCEPTABLE"
as opposed to an ACCEPTABLE attack ?
GGGAAAHHHHHH
| 446 |
Bloodnok Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:32pm |
Already been mentioned, but the "Absolutely Clear" theme is still strong and may consume us all.
| 447 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:34pm |
You freakin' wimp Obama.
'Unacceptable' to nuke Israel.
Hillary
"Massive retaliation!"
| 448 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:38pm |
re: #422 insanity police
He's got more experience than I gave him credit for.
And he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
| 449 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:39pm |
Well, at least he says, "nuclear" instead of "nucular"....
| 451 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:01:52pm |
Which other countries Hillary? Boy, they hate to be specific.
| 455 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:07pm |
Hill will have a mass bombing of nude pictures of her if Iran causes trouble. That will cause Dinnerjacket to die.
| 456 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:09pm |
OH, yeah, the Iranians are going to listen to you, lady.
| 458 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:18pm |
re: #449 Sarge1984
Well, at least he says, "nuclear" instead of "nucular"....
Who cares, he took 'em off his table.
| 460 |
x-ray Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:19pm |
Obama almost let that dirty word "Military" slip out
| 461 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:23pm |
Sounds like if either one of these is POTUS,
Its Vietnam micro management # 2.
| 462 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:23pm |
re: #453 rain of lead
he's stuttering badly
This is by the far the least articulate/eloquent he's been since he's come out into the world of politics....
freshman
| 463 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:31pm |
re: #402 beachkatie
Sharia come after the troops made to come home?
exactly. heads will roll. lord help us.
| 464 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:38pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
Dkos melts down. Srsly.
"Plead"
Please
Learn
English
Assinine
Dkoser
"Plead"
| 465 |
Vergeltung Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:40pm |
re: #375 rawmuse
All this damn military spending is interfering with our plans for redistribution of income by our favorite government nihilists. The ones with comb-overs.
Lawrence Kudlow had a great piece in the NY Sun's editorial section about just that very thing today. how all this "the war is bankrupting us" stuff is just the next phase of the what-can-we-think-of-next in the liberal attacks on the war.
he states they just resent spending the money on something other than their failed domestic policies. the whole war cost is something like 1% of the GDNP.
| 466 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:42pm |
re: #449 Sarge1984
Well, at least he says, "nuclear" instead of "nucular"....
I say nukular...so does everyone else in these parts...a couple of hours up the road from where W grew up :P
| 467 |
sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:42pm |
Pass the crack pipe. Both of them make me ill.
| 468 |
Sifty Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:43pm |
I wouldn't let these two pricks be in charge of a game of Starcraft, let alone the real military.
| 469 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:45pm |
re: #434 song_and_dance_man
Israel rhetoric?
Fuck you Obama.
*applause*
*standing ovation*
| 471 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:51pm |
Now PIAPS talking clueless sh*t.
I need a drink, make that multiple drinks.
| 472 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:02:52pm |
I'll talk to Eichmanndinejad first!
No, I will!
No, I will!
| 473 |
insanity police Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:01pm |
re: #448 MarkX
And he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Because Rev. Wrights 10 million dollar house is not built yet.
| 474 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:07pm |
Attacking Obama over Ahmadinejad.... good Hillary, good. Keep softening the way for our PAC's.
| 475 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:08pm |
Hitlery trying to outhawk/outpander Osama? With a security agreement?
We are doomed. Israel is doomed. Don't elect either of these incompetent Marxists America!
| 477 |
Gordan the Fisherman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:17pm |
All we can do at this point is pray, yes PRAY, that McCain will take advantage of all this idiocy.
| 479 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:22pm |
re: #169 ornery elephant
" I think the Repubs should apologize for the Bush/Cheney years and just not run anyone in the election"
This is the smartest woman in the world?
She might as well say:
"...because I am the rightful queen and there shouldn't even be an election! It doesn't matter that most Americans hate me - I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT! It's mine! ...beside we don't need a two party system, that's not progressive. viva Castro."
| 480 |
Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:23pm |
These two amateurs scare the bejeezus out of me thinking about either as CinC.
| 481 |
Lucius Septimius Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:24pm |
re: #462 ModerateWolverine
This is by the far the least articulate/eloquent he's been since he's come out into the world of politics....
freshman
He's not in control as in the earlier "debates"
| 482 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:35pm |
re: #476 NoSubmission
Anyone mention the Gates of Hell yet?
we're watching it !
| 485 |
sbvft contributor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:43pm |
re: #470 itellu3times
She said "fissile".
fissile fer shizzle
| 487 |
lookingup Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:55pm |
We are so damn serious that we will talk. And dammit that is serious and you Iran better pay attention. Or elese we will talk to you some more.
| 488 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:03:55pm |
you let dinnerjacket get them,, and the house of saud will surely get them
| 489 |
jamgarr Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:00pm |
re: #470 itellu3times
She said "fissile".
Fissile my shizzle
| 490 |
neocon nony Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:01pm |
Hillary won't meet with Ahmadinejad and will react militarily if Iran attacks Israel or one of our allies in the region. To the Kos crowd, she just became a neocon. I love it.
| 492 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:11pm |
Let me get this straight....
PIAPS will get us out of Iran in 60 days. But not let Iraq get the Bomb and protect Israel?
| 493 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:23pm |
re: #484 HelloDare
Ask them about Jimmy.
yeah, yeah, ask them about Jimmy
| 494 |
brakes Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:25pm |
Bush administration has failed, but we will surrender.
| 495 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:25pm |
What is she going to DO about Iran's nukes?
Crazy.
| 496 |
Blue Falcon Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:27pm |
So Billary, you are willing to start a war with Iran, but can't even try to win the current war in Iraq?
| 497 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:29pm |
re: #468 Sifty
I wouldn't let these two pricks be in charge of a game of Starcraft, let alone the real military.
They'll insist in pursuing diplomacy with the Zerg...
| 498 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:34pm |
So let me get this straight, hightailing it out of Iraq and surrendering the Gulf region to Iran protects Israel?
Talk to Iran? THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK! Geez, what planet do these people live on?
/can someone explain this to me?
| 499 |
Lucius Septimius Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:34pm |
re: #470 itellu3times
She said "fissile".
Sure that wasn't "fo' shizzle"?
| 500 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:39pm |
"Security umbrella"?
Hate to break it to you, Senator, but President Bush beat you to it. It's called "MISSILE DEFENSE"
| 501 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:41pm |
We almost had a cackle there...almost
| 502 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:46pm |
CACKLE ,,, (there must be a touigh question coming )
| 503 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:04:46pm |
re: #365 sbvft contributor
I disagree. On Iraq, he will be proven him right. Domestically, he's a BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
I think the history of this time will focus on foreign affairs leaving domestic matters of secondary review.
/I wanted tax reform from a (R) President and (R) congress...
| 504 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:14pm |
Hell no, she isn't going to commit 100% to any-damn-thing.
| 508 |
descolada9 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:24pm |
Skipping out on tonight's debate as I have a big econ test tomorrow morning and am studying for it. However, I do have a fresh supply of root beer!
| 509 |
Sifty Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:25pm |
re: #497 Sorge
They'll insist in pursuing diplomacy with the Zerg...
We are both going down in nerd history.
| 510 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:31pm |
Tax HIKES here will NOT affect the economy ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,of Argentina
| 511 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:39pm |
Now Steponallofus is plays a McCain clip and soft-shoes this farce into an absentee debate against McCain.
Lousy MSM commie.
| 512 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:46pm |
re: #491 song_and_dance_man
Iraq, which these two want ot pull out of, is a fine example of engaging Iran with a deterrent.
These two are hypocrites and don't
meanknow what they say.
Fixed it.
| 513 |
mikeinmd Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:50pm |
Am I the only one who thinks that if BHO is in the White House, he'll have to ask Michelle for permission to sit in the Oval Office ?
| 514 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:05:55pm |
re: #496 Blue Falcon
So Billary, you are willing to start a war with Iran, but can't even try to win the current war in Iraq?
Heh - she's the smartest woman in the world, you know.
Worship.
| 515 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:00pm |
no one is rolling them back....they expire. And we all get a tax increase in the process
| 517 |
ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:03pm |
Let me see if i understand Hillary here: If Iran won't stop acquiring nuclear weapons by us threatening to bomb the sand out of them, they will stop immediately if she sends a deputy defense department guy over to meet with a mullah's aide in Tehran?
| 521 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:26pm |
go to my website ,,,( so we'll have your IP address! )
| 522 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:36pm |
Hill demoted me to midle class again.
Bill had promoted me to rich.
Biyatch.
| 523 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:44pm |
I just got here. Am I glad I just turned on the TV or should I just turn it off?
| 524 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:44pm |
liar. letting the cuts expire automatically means an increase. The less you make, the bigger the % increase
| 528 |
rain of lead Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:51pm |
now she's talkin taxes
bwahaahahhahhahahahahhaha
| 529 |
neocon nony Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:52pm |
Democrat economic plan - soak the rich baby
| 530 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:06:54pm |
Why does he sound like a snot when he says "I will cut THEIR taxes"?
| 533 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:05pm |
Oh, no, the ObamaMessiah, too, is a tax cutter! Who-hoo!
| 534 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:18pm |
Payroll tax isn't regressive, does he mean SSN?
| 535 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:19pm |
re: #523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just got here. Am I glad I just turned on the TV or should I just turn it off?
Leave it off. You can guess what they're saying by our snark
| 536 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:21pm |
Now Obamba freakin' demoted me back to rich
| 538 |
LoFlyer Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:34pm |
Hillary is sounding like a fracking hawk against Iran! She despises our military, She talks the talk, her actions speak otherwise....
| 541 |
livefreeor die Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:36pm |
But how are they going to pay for all the cupcakes and ponies and rainbows?
| 543 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:37pm |
I won't raise taxes on anyone under $250K.
/unless you have any capital gains, then you're hosed
| 544 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:42pm |
| 545 |
lilliew Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:42pm |
Not renewing tax cuts = increasing taxes..... especially for the middle class. duh!
| 546 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:46pm |
re: #250 bikermailman
I'm not so sure. He doesn't seem to want to smack them
Discipline. No point in engaging either too much right now. Just enough to keep the civil war going.
McCain gets a reputation for being rash and explosive. He is very disciplined, and so is his campaign.
He will wail away on Obama when the deed is done. Let's hope it isn't done till the convention.
| 547 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:49pm |
re: #529 neocon nony
Democrat economic plan - soak the rich baby
Rich baby?
| 548 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:52pm |
re: #536 OldLineTexan
Now Obamba freakin' demoted me back to rich
they now clasify you as a YO YO
| 550 |
Bloodnok Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:55pm |
"No middle class tax increase" promise by Hill.
In other news the "middle class" has been redefined to be a 44 year old single guy in Idaho named Wally.
| 551 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:59pm |
Hillary: Well, then, I'll cut taxes more than you. And give everybody free cutlery.
| 552 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:07:59pm |
re: #498 Killian Bundy
So let me get this straight, hightailing it out of Iraq and surrendering the Gulf region to Iran protects Israel?
Talk to Iran? THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK! Geez, what planet do these people live on?
/can someone explain this to me?
It's the Clinton method of dealing with things. Air Force only, no boots on the ground. Aspirin factories in the Middle East, watch out!
| 554 |
GeeWiz Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:20pm |
I would like to know just when did Obamarama earn his "strategic general" status that would trump the advice of someone like Gen. Patraeus (sp) whose skill in strategy in Iraq has secured the victory from the jaws of defeat.
| 555 |
Sol Roth Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:23pm |
The tax question = smoke and mirrors response. Might as well go wax my car or something.
| 556 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:24pm |
re: #547 itellu3times
Rich baby?
Tax increases on Celebrity Children.
| 557 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:26pm |
re: #546 karmic_inquisitor
Discipline. No point in engaging either too much right now. Just enough to keep the civil war going.
McCain gets a reputation for being rash and explosive. He is very disciplined, and so is his campaign.
He will wail away on Obama when the deed is done. Let's hope it isn't done till the convention.
I hope so.
| 558 |
Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:31pm |
Obama is LOST w/o a TelePrompter. He's clueless.
| 559 |
MarkX Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:34pm |
This BS is too much.
Had my fill for tonight.
Good night all.
| 560 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:37pm |
re: #543 Killian Bundy
/unless you have any capital gains, then you're hosed
OR ,, if you die ,,,,,,, or want to invest money thats already been taxed ,,, or buy anything ,, or save something ,,,,
| 561 |
Colonel Panik Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:45pm |
re: #468 Sifty
I wouldn't let these two pricks be in charge of a game of Starcraft, let alone the real military.
ROTFLMAO.
| 564 |
really grumpy big dog johnson Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:53pm |
Man, thread moving fast stuff is just discombobulating to me. Turns out that CO front range debate started at 7. I tuned in at 7:06 and was told that the debate will continue after this break.
Tea and crumpets anyone?
| 565 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:59pm |
re: #551 HelloDare
Hillary: Well, then, I'll cut taxes more than you. And give everybody free cutlery.
GinSu Knives ?
| 566 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:08:59pm |
Nothing like hearing two fabulously wealthy people talk about how they're going to raise my taxes.
| 567 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:03pm |
Obama: Can I go to my prepared speech now. Please...
| 569 |
livefreeor die Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:08pm |
re: #554 GeeWiz
I would like to know just when did Obamarama earn his "strategic general" status that would trump the advice of someone like Gen. Patraeus (sp) whose skill in strategy in Iraq has secured the victory from the jaws of defeat.
He must be taking a course at an on-line war college.
| 570 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:09pm |
re: #544 Sarge1984
'cause he made $4.2 million last year, maybe?
Elitist bastard.
I left off the sarc tag! Hahahahahhaa, he speaks of the middle class as if he is speaking of a sighting of the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot.
I bet Mitt Romney is laughing his butt off listening to these two talk money.
| 571 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:15pm |
What the heck do Democrats have against people saving? Oh, that's right, that's responsible behavior. Never mind.
| 572 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:16pm |
re: #519 jcm
Cackle who hires people?
THE FU*KING RICH!
I'm not rich, but I know lots of rich people - and more rich people who know rich people and they are all saying the same thing. If Hillary or Obama get in - they are taking all of their capital off the table.
Hillary/Obama = screw America - "it's for the common good."
| 573 |
ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:18pm |
Another Hillary gem: Let's leave Iraq in 60 days while we are face to face with 1000's of al Qaeda so we can regroup back in the U.S. and send more troops to Afghanistan so we can spend the next six months finding 15 Taliban on a mountain top.
| 574 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:18pm |
bullcrap ( I just wanted to write that, I never did before)
| 576 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:29pm |
re: #565 sattv4u2
GinSu Knives ?
Whatever you want.
| 578 |
lookingup Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:32pm |
Tax laws are all about special interest. That is how the pols buy votes.
nearly 1/2 of the people pay no fed income tax
| 580 |
lilliew Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:46pm |
Wow good question about capital gains tax... wait, what is this about fairness?
| 581 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:46pm |
He is now officially pulling numbers out of his ASS
| 583 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:56pm |
I notice that Obama gets really excited when someone says: if you were president.
He is an egocentric asshole of the highest degree.
| 584 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:09:59pm |
I must say, that was a very very good question
I'd love to walk around with this article printed out so any time people talk about tax breaks for the rich being bad...i can smack them over the head with it.
| 586 |
Miss Trixie Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:02pm |
Gah. I can't take it anymore. Off to cuddle with Lil Miss and hit the hay early.
Nite Lizards.
| 591 |
neocon nony Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:14pm |
re: #547 itellu3times
Rich baby?
rich, baby. comma was a necessary component in that sentence. i'm having trouble typing because i can't believe they're actually throwing hard questions at these two jokers.
| 592 |
svines Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:22pm |
Surely she can't be rational and think that any Middle Eastern country will believe that she will stand firm as an ally if Iran attacks them. She is truly delusional and a liar of epic proportions. Has she been following her and Obaminator's rhetoric on immediate surrender in Iraq? Doesn't she know that because of the Democrats we have trouble getting our historical allies to act in concert with us in times of war due to the fact that the Democrats have surrendered in every war since WWII, and left other countries swinging from dictatorial yard arms? GOD how stupid!
| 593 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:25pm |
Can we just take all of Warren Buffets money away and give it to the state? He's a holy democrat who whines about his paltry 17% tax rate. Fucker needs to pay up.
| 594 |
Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:35pm |
WOW! Charlie raving about tax cuts!
/He might be a closet conservative!
| 595 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:36pm |
re: #558 Bob in Breckenridge
Obama is LOST w/o a TelePrompter. He's clueless.
he really is. he is an empty brain empty suit. and it's becoming obvious
| 596 |
lilliew Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:50pm |
re: #577 bikermailman
how you calculate it = 75k is rich
Gah, I'm hosed. Time to tell my boss I don't want my raise now...
| 598 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:10:58pm |
Index capital gains to inflation and make them regular income - and allow one-year losses of $100k ... er, what is it today, was only $3k last time I had any.
| 599 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:00pm |
OMG, did they just ask Obama about capital gains?
/hey dumb[expletive deleted], that's how I earn my living!
| 600 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:08pm |
you don't increase spending unless you eleiminate some spending !
WTF !
| 601 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:19pm |
Fair.
Everyone pays the same rate.
Poor - pay less.
Rich - pay more
Fair
| 603 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:32pm |
re: #596 lilliew
Gah, I'm hosed. Time to tell my boss I don't want my raise now...
75k on families. I'm single no dependents. I'm screwed too
| 604 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:37pm |
Nailed again on capital gains... (stutter, stutter, misdirect).
| 606 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:48pm |
Good Charlie! hahahahah, the smug look on Hillary's face! hahahahahahhahaha
Um government doesn;t need to fix the housing thing, Marxist.
| 608 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:11:57pm |
dumb mass! the debt went up because we spent too frakkin' much
| 610 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:07pm |
re: #603 bikermailman
75k on families. I'm single no dependents. I'm screwed too
you're BREATHING ,,,,,, that means you're screwed under the Dems
| 611 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:10pm |
Taxation is about control. Hillary wants to control you.
| 612 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:12pm |
Hedge Funds Managers need a Union.
| 613 |
x-ray Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:18pm |
re: #562 jcm
Top 10% already pay 60%.
And they pay the salaries of allot more taxpayers.
The less money the rich have the fewer of the middle class they hire.
| 615 |
Grammy Cracker Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:21pm |
re: #586 Miss Trixie
Gah. I can't take it anymore. Off to cuddle with Lil Miss and hit the hay early.
Nite Lizards.
'night, Miss Trixie! Kiss that sweet pooch-face for me, too! LOL
/more wine!
| 616 |
Colonel Panik Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:48pm |
re: #564 really grumpy big dog johnson
Man, thread moving fast stuff is just discombobulating to me. Turns out that CO front range debate started at 7. I tuned in at 7:06 and was told that the debate will continue after this break.
Tea and crumpets anyone?
I'm in Denver this week. Looking out the window of my hotel room I can see that the Goreacle has not gotten the message. The snow just keep falling.
ManBearPig, I know you're out there somewhere.
| 617 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:53pm |
re: #600 sattv4u2
you don't increase spending unless you eleiminate some spending !
WTF !
Take away your stuff
Give other stuff to someone else
Gore your ox
Buy Achmed a goat
| 618 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:54pm |
re: #599 Killian Bundy
OMG, did they just ask Obama about capital gains?
/hey dumb[expletive deleted], that's how I earn my living!
You won't mind 40% will you?
| 619 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:54pm |
GGGAAAHHHH
"I don't want to take one more penney of tax money from ANYONE ,, (except if you're in America and braething )
| 620 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:12:57pm |
I don't want to take money from anybody.
But I do want to make strategic investments.
Heh.
| 622 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:00pm |
Hillary...smart investments...? Cattle futures, anyone?
| 623 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:01pm |
"Strategic Energy Fund" "Put 5 million people to work": Two fallacies for the price of one!
| 625 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:02pm |
everyone having jobs that the rich hire them for does lift the tides up
| 626 |
HelloDare Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:05pm |
And where do you get this money that you invest, Hillary?
| 627 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:06pm |
re: #609 jcm
Might happen?
MORONIt happen every damn time it's been done.
He wants to re-invent the square wheel.
| 628 |
Crimsonfisted Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:10pm |
Let's ask Detroit how the unions are working there.
| 629 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:13pm |
Now the Hilarity moron ... sweet! Kinda like the "Timmah", "Jimmy" cripple fight.
| 630 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:24pm |
"Smart" investments with MY money. That's the Dem way.
| 632 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:34pm |
the same way you got those 200,000 jobs for upstate NY hillary?
| 633 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:36pm |
re: #609 jcm
Might happen?
MORONIt happen every damn time it's been done.
Dont question the Obama, he knows whats best for the clingy typical white persons.
| 635 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:43pm |
"What I wanna do ..."
Should a presidential candidate say "wanna"?
| 637 |
Noam Sayin' Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:46pm |
Is Hillary completely unaware that one of the major causes of the mortgage crisis was congress pressuring the mortgage companies to let more people in on the game?
| 638 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:13:55pm |
Congress pushed the lenders into subprime to increase home owner ship.
| 640 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:07pm |
re: #566 Palandine
Nothing like hearing two fabulously wealthy people talk about how they're going to raise my taxes.
oh yeah, they sure know how to spend our money. jerks
| 642 |
Fenboy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:25pm |
George Bush doesn't care about Pennsylvanian people
/
| 643 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:33pm |
um...did she just say if she was president a year ago she would have prevented this type of housing crisis?
They COMPLETELY skipped out on Econ class in college, huh?
| 644 |
ornery elephant Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:39pm |
re: #607 lookingup
Obama "Don't confuse me with the facts"
Help me up!
| 645 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:41pm |
re: #598 itellu3times
Index capital gains to inflation and make them regular income - and allow one-year losses of $100k ... er, what is it today, was only $3k last time I had any.
/man, you must not be very aggressive
| 646 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:49pm |
invest it in poor people....welfare for EVERYONE!
| 647 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:14:58pm |
"largest deficit ever,,,,,"
IDIOT ,,, it's NOTwhen compared to GDP ,,,,,,,
| 648 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:02pm |
So, they:
1. Won't cut spending.
2. Will spend on new programs.
3. Won't borrow from "the Bank of China" (from international markets, really.)
4. And won't raise taxes at the same time!
| 650 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:13pm |
Great question from Charlie ... she has to "look at the numbers." And all this time I thought the great, cankled Hildebeast was a senator...
| 652 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:36pm |
re: #637 Noam Sayin'
Is Hillary completely unaware that one of the major causes of the mortgage crisis was congress pressuring the mortgage companies to let more people in on the game?
EXACTLY. They wanted the mortgage companies to loosen up their standards. This resulted in people who could not afford it buying houses waaaaay beyond their means, and home sellers raising their prices accordingly.
Sucks to be responsible. I still rent.
| 653 |
GeeWiz Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:39pm |
I'm sittin' here watching this debate with my dog on one side and my cat on the other. Our consensus is that we are viewing a re-make of "Dumb and Dumber". That's our take and we're sticking to it! So there!
| 654 |
committed Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:51pm |
Only 6% of the population makes more than $90,000. Is that what he said?
| 655 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:52pm |
re: #645 Killian Bundy
man, you must not be very aggressive
Too true. Also still holding.
| 656 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:15:54pm |
re: #648 Sorge
So, they:
1. Won't cut spending.
2. Will spend on new programs.
3. Won't borrow from "the Bank of China" (from international markets, really.)
4. And won't raise taxes at the same time!
They learned that from Mandrake the Magician
| 657 |
Grammy Cracker Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:00pm |
re: #622 Sarge1984
Hillary...smart investments...? Cattle futures, anyone?
Ahhh, investments! She's been talking to our Governor again!
/Jenny is always looking to *invest* MY money in HER failed socialist schemes....
| 658 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:03pm |
re: #654 committed
Only 6% of the population makes more than $90,000. Is that what he said?
yes
| 659 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:03pm |
Eliminating the cap on the SS thing...
Yes, that's a tax increase Senator.
| 660 |
jopa416 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:09pm |
re: #637 Noam Sayin'
I agree with you, but that is one thing I fault Bush for....not bringing that point to peoples attention.
| 662 |
irongrampa Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:11pm |
either one of these two get elected, I'm withdrawing from the system.
| 663 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:23pm |
re: #653 GeeWiz
I'm sittin' here watching this debate with my dog on one side and my cat on the other. Our consensus is that we are viewing a re-make of "Dumb and Dumber". That's our take and we're sticking to it! So there!
My dogs say 'woof'
| 664 |
DownRightMeanAmerican Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:33pm |
Obama and Hillary’s tax.
We will tax your ass just so lefty can have more free shit.
| 667 |
natbumpo Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:39pm |
Is anyone else here a Charlie Gibson fan all of a sudden? I am.
| 670 |
Sarge1984 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:16:43pm |
...when she was outside of camera range...
heh.
| 672 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:17pm |
re: #659 Sorge
Eliminating the cap on the SS thing...
Yes, that's a tax increase Senator.
Yes, well, it is, but the merging of the SSN and general fund is coming soon to a paycheck near you.
| 673 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:23pm |
re: #667 natbumpo
Is anyone else here a Charlie Gibson fan all of a sudden? I am.
I always was...he and russert are the only ones in the MSM worth a crap (minus Chris Wallace and Brit)
| 674 |
Sorge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:27pm |
How about eliminating god-darn Social Security itself, instead of keeping the monster alive? Oh, Social Security is sacred, don't talk about it.
| 675 |
really grumpy big dog johnson Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:30pm |
At a per capita oil consumption rate of nearly 3 gallons a day (14 days per barrel) the cost of oil-based product alone in this country is approaching 3K per person per year.
Now, let's take arctic and offshore drilling off the table, let's not worry about refinery expansion, let's not worry about the conversion costs of transformation to short-term biofuels, or nuclear energy, or coal gassification.
Let's just not worry. We'll save the children who haven't been exterminated in the freedom of choice holocaust, we'll love one another, and all will be peace and goodwill, especially in those places not embittered by loss of opportunity.
| 676 |
anotherindyfilmguy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:33pm |
turned it on for a few minutes thinking it would be entertaining... then decided my dog's IQ didn't need lowering anymore by further exposure...
To quote Opus:
pffft...
| 677 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:35pm |
I wish you were COMMITTED (nice lil white jacket ,, ties in the back ,,, jello on Wednesdays )
| 678 |
snowcrash Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:43pm |
I am impressed that the moderators are asking pointed follow up questions.
| 680 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:49pm |
re: #655 itellu3times
Too true. Also still holding.
/as they say, it ain't a profit or loss until you take it
| 681 |
Grammy Cracker Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:52pm |
re: #653 GeeWiz
I'm sittin' here watching this debate with my dog on one side and my cat on the other. Our consensus is that we are viewing a re-make of "Dumb and Dumber". That's our take and we're sticking to it! So there!
Dog for President! Cat for Vice President!
/heh, they're smarter than these to mukes!
| 683 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:57pm |
re: #678 snowcrash
I am impressed that the moderators are asking pointed follow up questions.
Yes, and aggressively. I'm loving it.
| 684 |
RedFox84 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:59pm |
re: #573 ornery elephant
It's all a ruse anyhow. Everyone damn well knows that if the Democrats pull us out of Iraq there's no reason why we should stay in Afghanistan. All the 'reasons' they want us to leave Iraq can be applied to Afghanistan just as well.
| 685 |
Bloodnok Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:17:59pm |
I would be willing to consider thinking about visiting that option......I think.
/BHO
| 686 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:10pm |
Social Security!
Arggh!
Listen, at 30-something, I KNOW this Ponzi scheme won't be available for me when I retire. I pay into it now becaue I see it as paying for my retired parents.
Continue Social Security for the retired folks and those 10 years from retirement. Let the rest of us invest our own money!
| 687 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:15pm |
re: #672 itellu3times
Yes, well, it is, but the merging of the SSN and general fund is coming soon to a paycheck near you.
ALready happened long ago....that's why we're screwed now. Not a damn one of them on either side or on the hill are going to do spit about it.
| 688 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:16pm |
"Tax cuts for the wealthiest" again - what a moron! The "poor" PAY NO INCOME TAX!
| 689 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:30pm |
re: #674 Sorge
How about eliminating god-darn Social Security itself, instead of keeping the monster alive? Oh, Social Security is sacred, don't talk about it.
That's a long answer, but overall, I think SSN is a good idea, more or less the way it is.
| 690 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:42pm |
re: #654 committed
Only 6% of the population makes more than $90,000. Is that what he said?
$97,000. Yep. Lumped me in with Soros.
/George, have you any Grey Poupon?
| 691 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:18:49pm |
Letting people keep their money require government to pay for it?
WTF
GRAMSCIAN WHORE!
| 694 |
svines Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:01pm |
Uh, the Obamanator is getting to raise all of your payroll deductions. To him, that's not a tax.
Liar.
And now Hill is attacking Bush for not fixing SS. Guess she missed all the hell he got in his first term when trying to actually do something substantive to solve the issue.
Can't take much more of this.
| 695 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:02pm |
re: #680 Killian Bundy
as they say, it ain't a profit or loss until you take it
... and when to run.
| 696 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:12pm |
Bush tried to fix it a few years ago. no body gave a damn
| 698 |
ModerateWolverine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:23pm |
re: #686 Palandine
Social Security!
Arggh!
Listen, at 30-something, I KNOW this Ponzi scheme won't be available for me when I retire. I pay into it now becaue I see it as paying for my retired parents.
Continue Social Security for the retired folks and those 10 years from retirement. Let the rest of us invest our own money!
You're a lizard, you're smarter than a lot of people. I do understand that there's a potential problem with letting everyone fend for themselves.
I think we need to privatize it, in that you can see your account balance and change funds, etc...but can't touch it until retirement, or pay a penalty like with an IRA
| 699 |
jcm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:25pm |
re: #690 OldLineTexan
$97,000. Yep. Lumped me in with Soros.
/George, have you any Grey Poupon?
Hey rich guy, give me some pie!
/
| 701 |
Ackomanyuki Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:32pm |
Note to self: Sell portfolio, buy more land, bullion, and ammo this summer....and a few more bibles to cling to.
| 702 |
hurricane_jimmy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:37pm |
Obama is getting pounded. His commentary and support for cutting capital gains was a complete bomb -- despite the fact Charlie Gibson stated increasing the rate cuts federal revenue.
On the topic of economics -- Hillary. game, set, match.
She's killing him.
Hillary couldn't leave well enough alone. Now she's talking about the Social Security trust fund. Every administration for decades has spent that money. All that is in the mythical "trust fund" are iou's.
Is it me, or is Obama's facade being laid bare tonight (and as of late)
| 703 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:38pm |
and it should be raised. the 65 crap was based on an avg lifespan of 66
| 704 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:43pm |
Charlie Gibson,,,
'on that point we'll take a break ,,,,, because I now have a migrain the size of Alaska,,,"
| 705 |
nyc redneck Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:19:56pm |
re: #683 ModerateWolverine
Yes, and aggressively. I'm loving it.
obama can't believe anyone would deign to ask HIM a follow up question.
no one has before.
| 706 |
itellu3times Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:08pm |
Have there been any hilites in this thing so far?
| 709 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:29pm |
re: #706 itellu3times
Have there been any hilites in this thing so far?
right now ,,,, a PLEDGE commercial !
| 710 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:30pm |
re: #699 jcm
Hey rich guy, give me some pie!
/
Better you than Barry.
/hand me yer plate. Ice cream, too?
| 712 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:51pm |
We just had a Social Security commission! And what did they recommend?
PRIVATE ACCOUNTS!
/cripes sakes, bank CDs would give you a better ROI than what you're getting now
| 713 |
Midnightrain Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:20:59pm |
Charlie: If you lower the capital gains tax, revenue increases. If you raise the taxes, revenue decreases.
Obama: So?
| 714 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:02pm |
re: #686 Palandine
Social Security!
Arggh!
Listen, at 30-something, I KNOW this Ponzi scheme won't be available for me when I retire. I pay into it now becaue I see it as paying for my retired parents.
Continue Social Security for the retired folks and those 10 years from retirement. Let the rest of us invest our own money!
Sure, easy for you to say. After paying into the system for 40 years, you're gonna give me 10 years to build a nest egg. Thanks.
| 715 |
GeeWiz Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:23pm |
re: #681 Grammy Cracker
I'm sorry to say that I think you are right. LOL!
| 716 |
irongrampa Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:36pm |
SS was never intended to serve as a complete rtetirement scheme, and I don't know why it's such a popular perception that it IS.
| 717 |
apb1 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:40pm |
Since SS was designed as a transfer system (and not a fund), it has less than zero ROI ...
| 719 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:21:54pm |
re: #707 sbvft contributor
"divided we fail". communists.
Yeah..I see Morgan Freeman, I think solid bipartisan politics.
| 720 |
RedFox84 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:01pm |
Anyone willing to bet none of this fiasco has any jokes made about on the Daily Show tomorrow, but that they somehow manage to make fun of McCain for being old and 'out of touch'?
| 721 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:14pm |
re: #712 Killian Bundy
We just had a Social Security commission! And what did they recommend?
PRIVATE ACCOUNTS!
/cripes sakes, bank CDs would give you a better ROI than what you're getting now
Those of us born after '62 are getting a negative rate.
| 722 |
FrogMarch Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:43pm |
re: #637 Noam Sayin'
Is Hillary completely unaware that one of the major causes of the mortgage crisis was congress pressuring the mortgage companies to let more people in on the game?
No. But she's still the smartest woman in the world!/
She is also unaware that there really isn't such a thing as "predatory lending". Lenders would like to be paid back.
It's just one more great idea she has on the road to her glorious nanny state. No thinking allowed.
| 723 |
committed Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:47pm |
re: #677 sattv4u2
What is that supposed to mean?
Many married couples may well make more than $90,000 when their incomes are added together. What about when April 15th comes around?
| 724 |
bikermailman Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:22:49pm |
re: #717 apb1
Since SS was designed as a transfer system (and not a fund), it has less than zero ROI ...
The early people in the scheme got a great deal. We genXers...not so much
| 726 |
Palandine Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:23:02pm |
re: #714 EC Marm
Sure, easy for you to say. After paying into the system for 40 years, you're gonna give me 10 years to build a nest egg. Thanks.
Don't worry EC Marm. I'm not running for President. ;) I've been paying into it for 21 years, and I'll never see a dime of it. Good luck to you, though--it probably won't go broke that soon.
| 728 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:24:01pm |
re: #701 Ackomanyuki
Note to self: Sell portfolio, buy more land, bullion, and ammo this summer....and a few more bibles to cling to.
You, sir, are a Clingon.
/I am too.
| 729 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:24:09pm |
re: #723 committed
scuse me ? my #677 was a response when Hillary said she was COMMITTED ,,,, I stated that I thought she should be COMMITTED ,,,to a mental health institution
| 730 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:24:16pm |
re: #713 Midnightrain
Charlie: If you lower the capital gains tax, revenue increases. If you raise the taxes, revenue decreases.
Obama: So?
/I think you'll do well here
| 731 |
EC Marm Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:05pm |
re: #703 bikermailman
and it should be raised. the 65 crap was based on an avg lifespan of 66
It should be based on number of quarters/years worked. The pot smoking heads that played around in college for a decade should be made to work till they're 76, not the guy who rolled out of high school into some backbreaking factory job for the next 50 years.
| 732 |
guzziguy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:25:47pm |
shall not be infringed part will be totally ignored here.
| 733 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:26:24pm |
Hillary ,,
I was at the YMCA ,, there was an Indian ,,,, a sailor ,,,, a guy in a hard hat
| 734 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:26:28pm |
re: #721 bikermailman
Those of us born after '62 are getting a negative rate.
/just make it an opt in or out, problem solved
| 735 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:27:22pm |
HILLARY ,,
lets ban LEGAL guns beacuse nuts get guns ILLEGALLY !
| 737 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:29:06pm |
OBAMA ,,,
just because you have a RIGHT doesn't mean the gov't can't take that RIGHT from you
~!~
CHANGE
| 738 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:30:16pm |
re: #710 OldLineTexan
Better you than Barry.
/hand me yer plate. Ice cream, too?
Let him eat cake.
| 739 |
Bob in Breckenridge Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:44:29pm |
This should be the final question for both:
Since you both obviously have no clue what the fuck you're talking about, how about we arm-wrestle, and whoever wins is the champ?
| 741 |
experiencedtraveller Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:55:32pm |
re: #740 americanmale
Operation Chaos // Next Target // Votenader.org // Donate Soon //
Nader? Wasn't he the guy that made the Pinto safe? What are you up to?
| 742 |
jaunte Wed, Apr 16, 2008 6:56:42pm |
re: #740 americanmale
"Why don't we stop fooling ourselves?
The Nader's over,
Over,
Over.
No good times, no bad times,
There's no times at all,
Just The New York Times,
Sitting on the windowsill
Near the flowers."
| 743 |
rokbassist Wed, Apr 16, 2008 7:36:34pm |
Obama keeps saying that Rev. Wright was a former Marine, which automatically makes him patriotic. Lee Harvey Oswald was also a former Marine. Timothy McVeigh was an Army vet. John Kerry played sailor. Don't think being a former Marine makes the Rev. patriotic.
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